| 00:01:22 | tical2k | I got a Belkin car device that connects to the dock plugin and has some basic (pause/play next and previous) functions on it. They currently dont work with rockbox. I noticed a lot of the remote accessories dont work with rockbox. Is there any development in progress on this? |
| 00:02:00 | linuxstb | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=17841.0 |
| 00:02:29 | tical2k | sweet |
| 00:02:35 | tical2k | thanks for the info |
| 00:03:34 | * | gevaerts likes this e280. Rockbox usb is extremely unreliable on it |
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| 00:04:10 | bertrik | do you see anything weird on the bus? |
| 00:04:33 | gevaerts | I haven't looked with the analyser yet. I'll do that tomorrow |
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| 00:21:49 | tical2k | linuxstb, thanks again for the info the patched build works for my device |
| 00:24:39 | skiy | also folks, just a quick and (probably stupid) question, does rockbox support ogg-vorbis/flac on the "Archos Jukebox Studio 20 20GB" |
| 00:25:10 | skiy | I heard it said somewhere that it didn't support ogg/flac but thought I'd check before buying one off ebay.. |
| 00:26:29 | scorche|sh | no |
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| 00:28:50 | skiy | thanks! |
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| 00:33:42 | * | skiy withdraws his best offer from ebay as most of his music is in ogg :\ |
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| 00:39:34 | kugel | skiy: they cannot play anything but mp3, because they have a dedicated chip for that, and not a general purpopse cpu like newer daps |
| 00:39:48 | kugel | it's not a rockbox issue, it's a limitation of the hardware |
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| 00:42:26 | scorche|sh | then have a "general purpose cpu"...just one that runs at 12MHz... |
| 00:43:02 | scorche|sh | they |
| 00:43:07 | kugel | oh, sorry then. But not powerful enough, so basically not usable? |
| 00:43:18 | scorche|sh | not for decoding ausio |
| 00:43:22 | * | scorche|sh cant type |
| 00:43:42 | scorche|sh | what else would we run all the other non-decoding processes on? |
| 00:44:32 | kugel | yea, sorry. Of course they must have such a thing. |
| 00:44:59 | kugel | I was basically saying, they don't have such a unit like new daps, as in they don't use it for decoding unlike the newer ones |
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| 00:57:34 | amiconn | linuxstb: around? |
| 00:58:48 | kugel | JdGordon: did you play around with your v2 a bit? |
| 00:59:45 | JdGordon | nup |
| 00:59:51 | JdGordon | maybe today a bit |
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| 01:00:42 | kugel | err, my fuze hangs if I don't #define HAVE_LCD_ENABLE |
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| 01:08:13 | linuxstb | amiconn: Yes |
| 01:08:29 | amiconn | Did you ever actually test ape mono playback? |
| 01:08:34 | amiconn | I just get silence.... |
| 01:08:59 | amiconn | Also there are some todo's in decoder.c related to 8 bit streams |
| 01:09:19 | linuxstb | I'm 99% sure I tested mono streams. Have you tried them with demac? |
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| 01:11:19 | amiconn | The comment is suspicious - it says "do nothing unless it's 8-bit audio". I would think that it does at least need to SCALE() |
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| 01:12:04 | amiconn | And guess what - if I do that, it plays... |
| 01:12:23 | amiconn | demac won't have this issue as SCALE() is a no-op for non-rockbox |
| 01:12:56 | kugel | linuxstb: lcd_enable might have been a wrong guess, it does at least something which isn't as optional as lcd_enable should be |
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| 01:15:42 | linuxstb | amiconn: Are you talking about 8-bit or mono? Or was your test 8-bit mono? |
| 01:16:09 | amiconn | 16 bit mono |
| 01:16:49 | linuxstb | Ah yes, I see now. |
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| 01:17:50 | linuxstb | I guess that comment is based on what the original source does. You're of course right that we need to scale it for Rockbox. |
| 01:18:18 | amiconn | What do you think about this solution: http://pastebin.ca/1270693 (the #if0 part is svn for comparison) |
| 01:18:59 | amiconn | It uses the same system as is used in some other places to handle 1 or 2 channels without if/else |
| 01:19:28 | amiconn | Without making the whole loop conditional, I mean |
| 01:19:39 | amiconn | It's a little slower though |
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| 01:21:00 | JdGordon | interesting patch just submitted... |
| 01:21:00 | amiconn | On a related matter: What would be needed to support 8 bit? |
| 01:21:46 | kugel | linuxstb: was that one directed to me (with the original source)? |
| 01:21:59 | kugel | JdGordon: which? |
| 01:22:12 | JdGordon | "Philips GoGear HDD16x0/HDD63x0 patches for power, sound, buttons, lcd" |
| 01:22:29 | linuxstb | kugel: No, I'm just replying to amiconn at the moment... |
| 01:23:15 | amiconn | Also, couldn't be 8-bit also be pseudo-stereo, i.e. there's another conditional missing? |
| 01:23:53 | kugel | linuxstb: ok, could've been very well an answer to my lcd_enable "question" too |
| 01:25:00 | linuxstb | amiconn: I would have to look at the original Monkey's source - maybe pseudo-stereo isn't used for 8-bit streams. Your patch looks nice, but as you say, it's a little slower, so I would probably prefer more if/else statements. |
| 01:25:10 | amiconn | The if(decoded1) *decoded1++ = left costs about 0.2 MHz on PP5022 |
| 01:25:53 | amiconn | But these loops are small, so they can be split |
| 01:27:08 | amiconn | entropy.c has similar loops, but then they use largeish static inline functions, so splitting them would inflate the code quite a bit |
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| 01:31:30 | * | amiconn has a hard time reading the original monkey's audio source |
| 01:31:33 | amiconn | It's C++ :( |
| 01:31:36 | * | linuxstb too |
| 01:33:05 | linuxstb | But doesn't demac already handle 8-bit pseudo-stereo - along with all other bit-depths in the same part of decoder.c? |
| 01:36:10 | linuxstb | If you look at lines 259 onwards of Prepare.cpp, it seems that it converts 8-bit streams to an unsigned 8-bit value. So for Rockbox, we wouldn't need that, and can just scale (IIUC). |
| 01:37:04 | linuxstb | kugel: What is "optional" about lcd_enable? |
| 01:41:26 | amiconn | linuxstb: Prepare.cpp is for encoding? |
| 01:41:41 | linuxstb | There are two classes in there - Prepare and Unprepare |
| 01:41:59 | linuxstb | Unprepare is the decoding part |
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| 01:42:28 | kugel | linuxstb: iiuc a target should still work just fine when you remove the HAVE_LCD_ENABLE #define in the target config, or am I wrong? |
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| 01:43:19 | kugel | except maybe that it has less battery runtime |
| 01:43:51 | amiconn | linuxstb: demac.c doesn't seem to handle 8 bit. It checks for 16 bit / 24 bit explicitly. |
| 01:45:02 | amiconn | Afaik 16 bit (and higher) samples are usually signed, while 8 bit samples are usually unsigned. Do you think libdemac should handle that, or demac.c? |
| 01:45:24 | * | amiconn would like to have a 24 bit testfile... |
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| 01:49:04 | linuxstb | amiconn: I'm not sure about 8-bit at all... Let me see if I have a 24-bit file somewhere. |
| 01:50:04 | amiconn | Making an 8 bit testfile from 16 bit should be simple (e.g. using audacity). Making a 24 bit testfile from 16 bit wouldn't make sense (low bits would be all-zero) |
| 01:51:06 | amiconn | Seems like the original code only uses pseudo-stereo for 16 bit. |
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| 01:53:10 | linuxstb | kugel: Yes - assuming the lcd driver is correct... |
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| 01:57:07 | kugel | linuxstb: And our Fuze's lcd enable does something that's not optional, but needed, as it's not working without. |
| 01:57:20 | kugel | linuxstb: even though, the bootloader works, which doesn't define that |
| 01:57:41 | amiconn | linuxstb: Btw, the mono predictor is 3x as fast as the stereo predictor on PP, even though it's C vs. asm. |
| 01:58:10 | kugel | linuxstb: I #if 0'd the else part and it works for now. |
| 01:58:44 | amiconn | The other parts are almost exactly twice as fast, as one would expect |
| 01:58:50 | kugel | I'll investigate that later. Btw, I think I understood the disassembly pretty good. At some points I still stuck though |
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| 02:01:14 | kugel | linuxstb: I've for example noticed noticed the OF does 1 lcd_write_reg more in lcd_window_y that we have in our driver, although it doesn't seem to change much |
| 02:01:41 | linuxstb | kugel: I remember simplifying those window functions - check the svn history. |
| 02:06:08 | linuxstb | JdGordon: IMO we should credit people by name in commit messages when committing patches, rather than just referring to the FS number... |
| 02:07:50 | JdGordon | for the first time sure, but after that there is no need? |
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| 02:08:15 | JdGordon | once they are in credits task numbers should be enough... |
| 02:08:22 | JdGordon | but ill change if im wrong |
| 02:09:54 | linuxstb | I just find it a pain to have to refer to FS tasks to see basic info on a commit like who wrote it... |
| 02:09:57 | kugel | linuxstb: do you mean you simplified that lcd_write_reg away? |
| 02:10:14 | kugel | (I haven't looked the cleanup up yet) |
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| 02:10:36 | kugel | it could also be possible that this command was introduced in 1.01.15 which I was disassembling |
| 02:11:22 | linuxstb | kugel: I don't know which write_reg you're talking about - just that I think I removed some. As I said, check the svn history. |
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| 02:14:49 | kugel | linuxstb: anyways, I have no issues with the window_y/_x functions, lcd_enable seems problematic |
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| 02:57:09 | unstable | What is a good not too expensive media player that rockbox can run on? |
| 02:57:21 | unstable | That I can buy. |
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| 03:18:08 | unstable | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16855150097 |
| 03:18:15 | unstable | Is that device supported? I don't see it listed anywhere. |
| 03:18:33 | kugel | If it's not listed it's not supported |
| 03:27:58 | Unhelpful | unstable: if you can receive shipments in the US, and flash-player capacity is acceptable, froobi.com has refurbed e200v1 players you can install rockbox on |
| 03:28:32 | unstable | Unhelpful: e280 is supported? |
| 03:28:45 | unstable | Do they make this anymore, it says sold out everywhere. |
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| 04:49:41 | Unhelpful | anybody want to take a crack at this resize-on-load m3-remote-on-m5 issue? i'm getting garbled icons etc on the m3 remote in sim, but i can verify that the same vertical interleave code that works on m3 is being called when a bitmap is loaded for the remote on the m5 - except that the bitmaps on the remote are a mess on m5 :/ |
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| 05:09:01 | Unhelpful | hrm, the direct mono output is broken, somehow. |
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| 05:47:04 | shelby | i know its kind of sad but i have never been so pissed in my life over how i cant charge my ipod and use it at the same time. i dont want to mount it and transfer files i want to charge it whilst listening to music. how do i go about that? |
| 05:47:29 | shelby | because whenever i plug it in it has that picture of a usb dongle and then it restarts in disk mode |
| 05:47:35 | shelby | and i need it to stay in rockbox |
| 05:47:37 | shelby | really badly |
| 05:47:42 | shelby | please. any help? |
| 05:47:44 | saratoga | i think you hold play or something |
| 05:48:17 | shelby | i hold play when i plug it in? |
| 05:48:21 | kugel | saratoga: hey, I've edited the ams sansa forum thread to reflect my current "progress" and problems with the buttons |
| 05:48:50 | saratoga | manual says menu, at least for the video, might want to check for your ipod model |
| 05:48:57 | saratoga | kugel: ok i'll look at it now |
| 05:49:53 | shelby | holding down play DOES NOT WORK |
| 05:50:02 | shelby | im sorry to be such a prick... but... lol |
| 05:50:04 | shelby | im a prick. |
| 05:50:07 | shelby | any other suggestions? |
| 05:50:11 | kugel | saratoga: also, if you read the logs, funman and me found something new regarding clocking and why r19234 broke the svn bootloader |
| 05:50:14 | saratoga | shelby: read manual |
| 05:50:40 | saratoga | kugel: i still haven't managed to read anything over dbop, it seems rather complicated |
| 05:50:45 | shelby | which one? there seems to be a million billion manuals scattered everywhere across the site and it would be so easy just for you to tell me whether i would waste my time doing that. |
| 05:50:48 | saratoga | but fortunately, GPIO should work fine for that |
| 05:50:56 | saratoga | shelby: theres only one manual |
| 05:51:01 | saratoga | well one per player |
| 05:51:11 | shelby | okay. where does it talk about usb charging and staying on? |
| 05:51:17 | shelby | nevermind. let me look. |
| 05:51:18 | kugel | saratoga: but it apparently doesn't |
| 05:51:41 | saratoga | kugel: theres only 4 DBOP pins which are not also wired to GPIO, and none are used for buttons |
| 05:51:44 | shelby | i would soooooo rather not have an ipod than deal with this bull :\ |
| 05:51:48 | kugel | feel free to have a look at it. I couldn't get the buttons to read (seperately) with the same code just the pins swapped |
| 05:51:59 | saratoga | let me see what else is on GPIOD |
| 05:52:31 | kugel | saratoga: the buttons work (the ones found as of now) in the bootloader, so yes, they are on gpio |
| 05:52:48 | shelby | is it in the general settings section? |
| 05:53:03 | kugel | saratoga: and GPIO B and C are physically connected to the GPIO ports |
| 05:53:08 | saratoga | kugel: it could be that GPIOD is shared with something else, so your'e fighting with another driver for access to them |
| 05:53:33 | kugel | I'm not using GPIOD to work at all |
| 05:53:33 | shelby | heeelllooo? |
| 05:53:39 | shelby | im pretty sure the manual dosent cover this |
| 05:53:46 | kugel | I'm still fighting with the buttons on GPIO B and C |
| 05:53:56 | kugel | to get them work in the main binary |
| 05:54:08 | shelby | seriously. its not in the manual |
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| 05:54:38 | shelby | soo... does anyone have a suggestion besides the generic RTFM solution? |
| 05:54:43 | kugel | saratoga: most of the SD stuff is on GPIOD, that's what I can tell you |
| 05:55:44 | shelby | hhheeeellloooo? |
| 05:55:44 | kugel | shelby: I think you need to press a button if you don't want the ipod to reboot/show the usb connected screen. |
| 05:55:48 | shelby | hmmm |
| 05:55:55 | * | shelby wonders which button |
| 05:56:02 | shelby | its only *one* button, correct? |
| 05:56:23 | shelby | which i hold down as i am in the main rockbox menu roughly 1 second before i plug in the usb cable to the ipod? |
| 05:56:29 | kugel | shelby: I can't tell which one, since I don't have an ipod, but I'd be really surpised if it's not covered by the manual. Have you downloaded the pdf version? There you can searchin |
| 05:56:41 | perrikwp | shelby: read here http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch3.html#x5-380003.3 |
| 05:57:12 | saratoga | kugel: maybe the SD driver is putting the GPIO in some odd mode in the main build but not in bootloader? |
| 05:57:15 | shelby | thhaannk you perrikwp!! |
| 05:57:23 | * | shelby hugs perrikwp |
| 05:57:25 | perrikwp | your welcome |
| 05:57:47 | kugel | saratoga: As far as I know, sd driver only uses GPIOD |
| 05:58:01 | kugel | and again, I don't fight with D at all, only B and C |
| 05:58:13 | saratoga | sorry didn't mean to say D |
| 05:58:48 | saratoga | i noticed while trying to read some of the GPIO pins that I had to explicitly set and reset the direction and DBOP registers carefully otherwise they didn't work |
| 05:58:56 | saratoga | if you're already doing that then i have no idea |
| 05:59:31 | kugel | I explicitly set the DIR before reading them |
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| 06:00:00 | kugel | and I really tried the same code for all pins. Some are read properly, but most aren't |
| 06:00:08 | saratoga | and AFSEL too? |
| 06:00:12 | kugel | yes |
| 06:00:25 | kugel | and I reset after finished reading |
| 06:01:19 | saratoga | perhaps its a timing issue, does the main binary set any clocks not set in the bootloader? |
| 06:01:39 | kugel | no, the binary doesn't set up clocks. It's done in the bootloader |
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| 06:01:52 | kugel | but I tried putting some delays anyway, without success |
| 06:03:15 | kugel | saratoga: you focus on finding the rest of the buttons? |
| 06:03:29 | saratoga | kugel: that would be the wheel right? |
| 06:03:43 | kugel | plus home and hold |
| 06:04:25 | saratoga | i'm still kind of busy but i'll keep playing with it in my spare time |
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| 06:05:24 | kugel | saratoga: maybe the rest of the buttons can wait until we got the ones we have working? |
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| 10:06:09 | JdGordon | hmm... sticking a mutex around the dbop/gpiob/c accesses doesnt help.... but the problem is definatly there... if button_int() isnt called the lcd seems to work more corectly |
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| 11:06:14 | pROFIL | Hello everyone! |
| 11:06:39 | pROFIL | Anyone who knows how it going with the Samsung YP-P2 Porting? |
| 11:07:11 | domonoky | pROFIL: take a look a the corresponding forum thread.. |
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| 11:09:39 | pROFIL | Aha |
| 11:09:41 | pROFIL | :) |
| 11:13:03 | pROFIL | "When you first attach your device in USB boot mode to your computer" What does USB boot mode means? |
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| 11:16:47 | pROFIL | Or, how do get my player in USB boot mode? |
| 11:17:52 | * | domonoky doesnt know, remember rockbox isnt ready/working on this samsumg players.. |
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| 11:19:31 | JdGordon | ready/working or even started on that player |
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| 11:23:17 | bertrik | I have a battery discharge curve now of the sansa clip. It looks very much like other lithium battery discharge curves. |
| 11:24:17 | bertrik | I'm surprised it took nearly 11 hours to drain the battery from about 4.15V to 3.3V, I'm pretty sure I turned up the cpu frequency to 240 MHz during the test. |
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| 11:25:05 | pROFIL | JdGordon: But you don't know how to even turn it into usb boot mode? Like pressing a button when I connect it to the computer? |
| 11:25:23 | amiconn | bertrik: Well the CPU isn't actually doing much if you're not playing music... |
| 11:26:11 | bertrik | amiconn, yes indeed, but is there some kind of idle instruction that we execute? |
| 11:26:42 | pixelma | can someone comment on how similar the H100 and H300 keymap is overall (I'm wondering if I should combine the new keymap-*.tex files of these 2 into one, seeing that they share one keymap-*.c file |
| 11:26:45 | pixelma | ) |
| 11:27:26 | JdGordon_ | should be identical |
| 11:27:56 | pixelma | ok, will look into it some more |
| 11:28:31 | JdGordon_ | pixelma: my bubbles change last week needs a quick fix for the manual.. i was going to try it but got scared in bubble.tex... you just need to remove the first column i tihnk |
| 11:28:57 | bertrik | amiconn, I'll have a closer look at the data sheet of the processor |
| 11:28:58 | ameyer | does anyone know how different hardware revision 2 clips are from hardware revision 1 clips? |
| 11:29:31 | bertrik | Nobody knows yet, as far as I know |
| 11:33:00 | ameyer | but I'd imagine that if it's different enough to need different firmware, that's not a good sign for rockbox |
| 11:34:26 | amiconn | pixelma: Core keymap should be identical, but a few plugins use different mappings. I know that jpeg.rock does |
| 11:34:44 | amiconn | bertrik: Assuming it is implemented for AS3525, of course we do |
| 11:36:05 | pixelma | amiconn: thanks, the plugin button tables in the manual are independent anyways |
| 11:38:54 | bertrik | amiconn, any idea where I can find it in the code? |
| 11:47:12 | bertrik | amiconn, I think I found it: as3525 does something with mcr to wait for interrupt in core_sleep |
| 11:50:49 | * | domonoky wonders if rockbox mutexes need some sort of init.. the sd code just calls mutex_lock and und mutex_unlock, without initialisizing the mutex struct.. |
| 11:51:35 | bertrik | domonoky, I too noticed that mutexes apparently work without being initialised ... |
| 11:53:21 | domonoky | bertrik: i wonder if they dont really work right, and cause our reboot problem.. at least i can put a panic before the mutex_lock in the sd_transfer_sector, checking for reentry, and it gets called. if i put the check after the mutex, i only see the reboot. |
| 11:54:14 | bertrik | well, fix it and try again ! :) |
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| 11:56:02 | jhMikeS | domonky: no, mutexes will not work properly if not initialized. |
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| 11:56:58 | jhMikeS | they should also never be reinitialized if there's any possibility that a thread could be accessing it at the time |
| 11:58:58 | * | domonoky sees a mutex_init n other code, which is missing in the sd-code... |
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| 12:01:05 | pROFIL | Yey, I got my P2 in usb boot mode :D |
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| 12:01:59 | domonoky | looks like this fixes the reboot, while starting playback.... and now i see other problems.. :-) |
| 12:02:03 | * | jhMikeS emphasises the importance of initializing all kernel objects since "0" for all members isn't the case :) |
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| 12:02:51 | amiconn | jhMikeS: What would be the best way of communication between 2 threads if there's not just a binary flag to pass? |
| 12:03:13 | amiconn | Can a semaphore indicate multiple states, or do I need a queue? |
| 12:03:50 | jhMikeS | amiconn: semaphore is counted with a min and max. waiting decreases the count, and if the count is < 0, it blocks. release increases the count. |
| 12:04:04 | jhMikeS | *counted with a max rather |
| 12:04:05 | domonoky | hm, starting playback now gives me again this lovely "not enough space in ringbuffer". But i also get a reboot, when the backlight should go off... probably more init problems ? :-) |
| 12:04:13 | amiconn | Ah, hmm. |
| 12:04:17 | daurn | ameyer: we have rockbox on the clip? |
| 12:04:32 | * | amiconn will probably use a semaphore and use a separate struct for communication |
| 12:05:08 | jhMikeS | amiconn: the wakeup object is really a sort of simple one-message queue with a stick flag (much less memory) |
| 12:06:10 | domonoky | daurn: people are working on clip and other ams-sansa targets, but its not ready. |
| 12:06:20 | amiconn | This is for the libdemac dual-core split. The CPU thread will do the entropy decoding, then pass the data to the COP, which will (in the first implementation) do the filtering, prediction, and decorrelation |
| 12:06:56 | amiconn | In a second step, it should allow the split to depend on the compression level, for better balancing the load |
| 12:07:42 | amiconn | -c1000 and -c2000 should then work as described, while -c3000 and up should only do the filtering on COP, then pass the data back to the CPU, which will do prediction and decorrelation |
| 12:07:57 | jhMikeS | amiconn: with a counted sem use can use it to make a blocking queue of samples. SPC uses two semaphores with a max of 2 each to block the codec if empty or the synth if full. |
| 12:09:08 | amiconn | With a little more squeezing, this 2nd step will make even -c3000 usable on PP (maybe not on 5020, but on 5002 and 5022) |
| 12:09:37 | bertrik | daurn, yes, a lot of stuff already works: buttons, display, rtc, battery readout, flash read/write, it boots and allows you to browse the menus, even plugins work, sound doesn't quite work yet |
| 12:09:45 | jhMikeS | is there squeezing possible to have -c5000 useable on imx31? |
| 12:13:26 | amiconn | Atm I have no idea for that |
| 12:13:50 | amiconn | Could the disk access use dma? |
| 12:15:11 | * | amiconn cannot imagine how ide dma works, be it on PC or an embedded platform... |
| 12:15:18 | jhMikeS | using the SDMA controller is rather involved. I'm pretty sure we have to actually write code for that. it has no simple DMA controller. then using the ATA DMA modes is possible. |
| 12:15:50 | bertrik | domonoky, I added the mutex_init in as3525-codec.c but didn't spot the missing mutex_init in ata_sd_as3525.c at the time |
| 12:16:38 | jhMikeS | imx31 still needs the ATA FIFO serviced by the SDMA controller when using disk DMA |
| 12:16:40 | domonoky | wow ! i got a codec loading on m200v4 !! :-) |
| 12:17:24 | bertrik | nice! any sound too ? |
| 12:17:57 | domonoky | i still have to remove some panicf to get to the sound.. :-) |
| 12:20:29 | domonoky | hm, not sound from this.. but that may be caused ba other not-implemented functions.. :-) |
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| 12:21:24 | domonoky | but the codecs load, and the pcm_play_dma_start is called... which is much better, then just the reboot we got yesterday.. :-) |
| 12:21:58 | amiconn | I mean, I know how normal dma works. But for ide dma, you set a special dma transfer mode in the disk (as opposed to pio). So I think the disk itself does the dma somehow. But how can it do that (access the host's memory)? |
| 12:22:26 | amiconn | If this isn't the case, I wonder why the special dma modes even exist... |
| 12:23:42 | domonoky | amiconn: wouldnt this "special dma mode" just enable the dma_request and dma_request_clear lines in the disk-controller ? |
| 12:24:35 | domonoky | and via this request-lines, it tells the dma-controller when to transfer data to the hosts memory... at leats thats how it works on as3525.. |
| 12:25:21 | amiconn | hmm |
| 12:25:58 | amiconn | But iiuc you could also use the disk's pio mode in conjunction with a dma controller, couldn't you? |
| 12:27:09 | amiconn | (at least if iordy is disabled) |
| 12:27:38 | domonoky | only if the enabling of the dma_request lines is seperate from dma/pio mode setting... but i am not sure.. |
| 12:28:16 | amiconn | I mean plain transfer, without checking an 'ready' lines |
| 12:28:32 | amiconn | PIO is pure timed transfer if iordy isn't used |
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| 12:29:32 | * | domonoky doesnt know. But the dmac has to somehow know when to transfer data in/out of the disc fifo.. |
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| 12:31:31 | amiconn | domonoky: It would just transfer as fast as the external data port allows (which then needs some sort of waitstate setting). That's what we do for lcd write on H300 |
| 12:32:25 | amiconn | But I think it became a little clearer now... thanks |
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| 12:38:09 | jhMikeS | amiconn: there's the mode for the drive of course and then some setup in the ATA controller itself. |
| 12:38:53 | * | domonoky commited the muxtex_init fix.. |
| 12:40:15 | jhMikeS | PIO should be available alongside DMA for sending commands |
| 12:43:24 | domonoky | wow, someone got sound on the Phillips GoGear HDD16x0.. |
| 12:44:26 | amiconn | The PP IDE controller supports dma, even dma. |
| 12:44:35 | * | amiconn thinks we should try to find out how to use it |
| 12:45:18 | amiconn | jhMikeS: On a different matter, do you have an idea why my local c200 build shows that weird power-up behaviour? |
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| 12:46:33 | amiconn | I suspect some sort of race condition in init code that is triggered by my local changes. There are no changes which actually affect target specific code for c200 though; the lowest level stuff is some unfinished lcd-16bit.c rework that certainly changes its speed |
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| 12:47:17 | amiconn | My 14 other targets show no problem, just c200 does... |
| 12:48:47 | jhMikeS | amiconn: What is the behavior exactly? |
| 12:49:27 | amiconn | When I switch it on, the rockbox bootloader loads rockbox, rockbox shows the splash screen for a fraction of a second, then the c200 powers down again |
| 12:50:24 | amiconn | I *can* make it boot after several tries when applying some tricks: Pull the microsd card, hold RIGHT during boot, and start pressing POWER again when the splash screen appears |
| 12:50:37 | amiconn | Once booted, it behaves normally... |
| 12:50:42 | jhMikeS | only your local build? |
| 12:50:45 | amiconn | yes |
| 12:51:13 | jhMikeS | got a patch? maybe it would show something. |
| 12:51:19 | amiconn | In fact only a local build from my main tree. My secondary tree (plain SVN) works, as does the official current build |
| 12:52:19 | jhMikeS | the first sleeping is done right around the splash screen |
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| 12:53:34 | jhMikeS | perhaps waiting for an interrupt triggers different behavior with some other register set differently? |
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| 13:02:05 | amiconn | The lcd-16bit code is unfinished and doesn't work properly with a background image (image won't be visible most of the time), but shouldn't cause any non-visual problems |
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| 13:13:00 | bertrik | I notice that struct text_message is often (but not always) made static within functions. I don't see why it should be. |
| 13:13:29 | bertrik | It's not a very big struct, just two members: a pointer and an int |
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| 13:15:18 | bertrik | it's a const structure, referring only to other consts, BTW |
| 13:15:31 | Jaykay | ive got a little problem with vmware..... i cant type < when i press this button, nothing happens. can anybody help me? |
| 13:18:31 | bertrik | Jaykay, if it has nothing to do with rockbox, then we can't help you |
| 13:19:05 | * | gevaerts guesses that this is about the vmware image used to compile rockbox |
| 13:19:20 | Jaykay | it has something to do with rockbox cause i try to compile rockbox with the rockbox-image for vmware player..... |
| 13:19:32 | pixelma | I guess the available vmware image has a different keyboard (probably US/UK) set |
| 13:19:47 | jhMikeS | amiconn: I don't see how codec_load_buf could have any part at that stage. Is there a change that current_vp could be getting switched behind the scenes? |
| 13:20:08 | Jaykay | i already changed it to german, with xf86cfg and kbdconfig.... |
| 13:20:09 | * | domonoky guesses that the vmware does not have the correct keyboard setting for Jaykay, but thats a bit off-topic here. |
| 13:21:02 | domonoky | if all fails there is always: "ALT+60" :-) |
| 13:21:12 | gevaerts | Maybe you also need to set some vmware setting? |
| 13:21:15 | * | gevaerts doesn't know |
| 13:21:39 | gevaerts | Does that vmware image run X? |
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| 13:23:17 | Jaykay_ | ..... so if i shouldnt ask here for this problem, where can i do this? |
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| 13:26:59 | gevaerts | Jaykay_: one problem is that not many rockbox developers actually use the vmware image |
| 13:27:31 | Jaykay_ | what do they use? |
| 13:28:20 | gevaerts | A lot of people run linux natively, and some use cygwin |
| 13:30:18 | bertrik | Any chance it would work better in virtualbox? |
| 13:33:46 | Jaykay_ | ill try virtualbox, then cygwin^^ |
| 13:33:50 | Jaykay_ | thanks |
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| 13:41:35 | gevaerts | amiconn: running at 60MHz definitely makes things worse |
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| 13:57:23 | pixelma | JdGordon: re. bubbles.tex - yes, deleting the "in menu" part in the button table works. The only question is whether we want to explain the now menu items but I think they are quite self-explanatory. (would have a patch for the deletion ready for commit if you want to) |
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| 14:05:11 | Jaykay_ | can anyone tell me how to use the .vmdk-image in virtualbox or show me a guide? |
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| 14:07:07 | linuxstb | Jaykay_: No, but going back to your original problem, have you tried all the other keys to see where <> appear? You should be able to fix it by correcting the keymap in Linux, but I've no idea what Linux is in that vmware image... |
| 14:07:55 | pixelma | we should ask scorche, he wanted to update the image anyways ;) |
| 14:08:34 | * | pixelma runs away |
| 14:10:27 | domonoky | funman: did you notice, that i found the cause for the reboot on ams-sansas ? :-) |
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| 14:12:59 | Jaykay_ | so now i cant even start the image correctly, now its like a DOS-windows.... |
| 14:13:16 | pixelma | linuxstb: I believe it's some debian flavour, a bit older but not sure , that info helps you any |
| 14:13:43 | Jaykay_ | sorry i didnt get it |
| 14:14:16 | gevaerts | Jaykay_: I'm not sure if X is expected to work without reconfiguration if you run the vmware image in virtualbox |
| 14:15:41 | funman | domonoky: yes, thanks a lot! |
| 14:16:12 | Jaykay_ | now its starting as expected.... gevaerts:i didnt get it too, sorry ^^ |
| 14:16:15 | funman | I remember bertrik_ also found this problem in i2c code |
| 14:16:34 | funman | what did you have to change to get codec loading ? |
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| 14:17:11 | domonoky | funman: enough buffer space (~ 816k) and the sd_mutex fix. |
| 14:17:25 | gevaerts | Connecting my e200 in rockbox, mounting it, and unmounting it, gives a total of 30 errors (flagged as CRC errors, but in reality they are caused by the packet being incomplete). The same test running the OF gives no errors. No hubs were involved, and linux gave no errors in dmesg (i.e. all were corrected at the first retry) |
| 14:18:24 | domonoky | wav codecs seems to work, so that it calls pcm_play_dma_start(). mp3 gives some undefined instruction error, maybe the codec buffer is too small for it.. |
| 14:19:20 | * | pixelma wonders which buttons are mapped to what keys on a keyboard in a Clip sim |
| 14:20:05 | pixelma | I only found the arrow keys, resp. 2, 4, 6, 8 working so far |
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| 14:21:27 | funman | home = insert, select = space, page up/down = volume +/-, p = power |
| 14:21:52 | pixelma | why so different to the other sims? |
| 14:22:22 | funman | i didn't find any rule |
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| 14:22:49 | funman | except using numeric keypad a lot, and i don't have a numeric keypad on my laptop |
| 14:23:37 | pixelma | the others mainly use the num pad (plus u = USB connected, h = toggle hold switch, j = remote hold switch) |
| 14:23:46 | funman | perhaps additional cases for numeric keypad can be added for other buttons than up/down/left/right |
| 14:24:05 | * | domonoky finds this whole keymap thing pretty confusing. You never really know which contexts are used, and there are no checks against dublicate button-definitions (but they then wont work)... :-/ |
| 14:24:13 | pixelma | and F5 = screenshot |
| 14:26:07 | pixelma | funman: using the num pad (including the operands) has the advantage that you can "explain" the mapping in the sim background |
| 14:26:43 | bertrik | funman, did you experiment with charging on the clip? |
| 14:27:07 | funman | pixelma: feel free to add numpad definitions to the keys but please leave also the current one for people without numpad |
| 14:27:26 | funman | bertrik: Yes, I just noticed it charged (did no timing/curve) |
| 14:27:52 | bertrik | funman, I made a discharge curve of the clip with battery bench last night |
| 14:28:15 | pixelma | funman: currently on a laptop without num pad too, but was unable to find out the mapping |
| 14:28:20 | bertrik | I'll post it on the SansaRuntime wiki |
| 14:28:41 | funman | pixelma: see uisimulator/sdl/button.c (search for CLIP_PAD) |
| 14:30:01 | * | gevaerts actually hopes that if we ever find a real solution for these USB issues, we can go back to running USB at 30MHz |
| 14:30:25 | bertrik | hmm, on second thought I'll post it on the SansaClip page, as it's not really a runtime curve |
| 14:33:48 | JdGordon | pixelma: the manual is your domain... im happy for you to commit the fix, unless you dont have time and would rather i did? |
| 14:36:00 | JdGordon | funman: any suggestions for the e200v2? I can get as far as the menu if i dont try reading the buttons ever... I've tried using a mutex around the dbop gpios but either get a white lcd or nothing... (this is with the cpu freq stuff #if0'ed out |
| 14:36:40 | pixelma | I could do it myself, just not in the case an explanation should be added (only have about half an hour left now) |
| 14:36:46 | * | domonoky detects that the theme doesnt work with ~660k audio-buffer, so there are more places where we allocate buffers from the audio-buffer without really checking the size. |
| 14:37:00 | funman | kugel: JdGordon: domonoky can you give a try at the patch I put on FS #9588 ? |
| 14:37:14 | JdGordon | pixelma: yeah, I dont think an explanation is needed.. it should be fairly self-explanatory |
| 14:37:49 | pixelma | ok, could also be done later if someone feels it's neede |
| 14:37:50 | pixelma | d |
| 14:38:01 | funman | JdGordon: I think driver problems should be handled after we use a correct cpu clock (see the comments in FS #9588) |
| 14:38:10 | funman | JdGordon: did you try using interrupts on gpio to read the buttons ? |
| 14:38:14 | JdGordon | ok, trying it as soon as my net decides to play nice |
| 14:38:38 | JdGordon | no, I only just got a lcd working again.. if i get a chance ill tyr tomorow |
| 14:40:13 | JdGordon | funman: does that patch need a new bootloader? |
| 14:40:20 | funman | yes it only changes the bootloader |
| 14:40:48 | funman | the clock/sdram init procedure is not redone in the main binary |
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| 14:40:54 | JdGordon | ok |
| 14:42:24 | JdGordon | white lcd in bootloader |
| 14:42:36 | JdGordon | hmm... probably bootloader |
| 14:42:54 | funman | can you change the dbop clock frequency (with cgu_dbop) until you fix that ? |
| 14:43:05 | funman | have a look at what kugel used for the fuze |
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| 14:44:36 | Jaykay | after solving the first i have a second problem: when i type "svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/..........." it says "unknown hostname svn.rockbox.org. any idea? |
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| 14:45:17 | domonoky | Jaykay: make sure you have working inet access in the VM. |
| 14:46:38 | funman | what about having a svn checkout in the VM, so only 'svn up' would be needed? |
| 14:46:41 | Jaykay | i didnt change anything in the vmware settings..... and it worked an hour ago. how can i ckeck the conetction? |
| 14:47:00 | funman | Jaykay: piing 66.249.93.104 |
| 14:47:02 | funman | -i |
| 14:47:10 | JdGordon | funman: (half asleep).. where is the cgu_dbop? |
| 14:47:34 | funman | JdGordon: lcd-e200v2.c ams3525_dbop_init() |
| 14:48:04 | Jaykay | connect: network is unreachable. ok i admit internet is not warking^^ how can i solve this? |
| 14:48:36 | funman | hum well .. the peripheral clock doesn't change with my diff so perhaps the dbop clock is based on plla ? :/ I'm lost |
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| 14:50:09 | gevaerts | If people want to have a look at my USB traces, they are at gevaerts/usb">http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/usb |
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| 14:50:16 | funman | JdGordon: or perhaps you only need to adjust delays (kugel changed them too) |
| 14:50:33 | JdGordon | changing it to CGU_DBOP = (1<<3) | (3-1); got the lcd in the bootloader |
| 14:51:09 | domonoky | funman: your patch gives a garbled display in the bootloader on m200v4, but the main binary is working fine... |
| 14:51:29 | funman | JdGordon: if you don't see too slow lcd operation it's good; but you might want to tweak the delays as well (for faster operation). Please concatenate your changes to my patch and post it on the report. |
| 14:51:43 | funman | We'll use incremental diff and when this works on all models we will commit |
| 14:51:44 | JdGordon | and in the main binary :) |
| 14:51:53 | funman | domonoky: garbled how? |
| 14:52:08 | JdGordon | no buttons so checking for lcd updates is a bit hard |
| 14:52:18 | domonoky | i see a nearly black area, instead of the logo. |
| 14:52:26 | funman | JdGordon: if it doesn't take 30minutes to draw a screen it's ok ^^ |
| 14:52:48 | funman | domonoky: same story, tweak the dbop clock and the delays |
| 14:52:49 | JdGordon | its noticable, maybe .25s? |
| 14:53:14 | funman | JdGordon: try lowering the time in lcd_delay() / and highering the dbop clock frequency |
| 14:53:38 | * | JdGordon gets frustarted at the backlight turning off |
| 14:53:40 | funman | hm |
| 14:53:53 | domonoky | hm.. looks more like random lcd contents.. if i shutdown and reboot directly afterwards i see the old content :-) |
| 14:53:57 | funman | domonoky: the difference is that set_cpu_frequency() isn't called in the bootloader I think |
| 14:54:22 | kugel | JdGordon, funman: I have a patch which makes the display less flickering. |
| 14:54:58 | * | JdGordon reckons the lcd speed isnt a big issue and buttons are more important :) |
| 14:55:07 | JdGordon | im not getting noticable flickering |
| 14:55:25 | kugel | hm, I do |
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| 14:56:43 | JdGordon | no flickering at all, even when I replaced update_rect with regular update |
| 14:57:28 | kugel | JdGordon: could be fuze specific, they use a slightly different driver |
| 14:58:02 | kugel | JdGordon: Ah, I see. What my patch does is already implemented in lcd-e200v2.c |
| 14:58:36 | JdGordon | yep... trying to read buttons breaks everything.... |
| 14:59:11 | kugel | JdGordon: I managed to read the down and power button, but not the others |
| 14:59:45 | JdGordon | thats one up on me... did you change anything? |
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| 15:02:00 | kugel | JdGordon: I changed much, reading the buttons seperately for example |
| 15:02:59 | domonoky | kugel: did you try, if you can read other buttons, if you move the check up ? (ie timing, as BUTTON_POWER and BUTTON_DOWN are the first two buttons checked.) |
| 15:03:10 | JdGordon | funman: we cant change the lcd delays at the different cpu speeds? no need to try to find a speed which works for all if its too hard |
| 15:03:12 | kugel | Also, reading down and power together works, but when I add e.g. reading select (with the same code), no button at all works anymore |
| 15:04:13 | funman | JdGordon: I don't know how hard it is, just that the Clip needed no modification. I don't know if the OF does cpu frequency change |
| 15:04:18 | kugel | JdGordon: I reduced the delay to x*=256 which works fine for me |
| 15:04:53 | kugel | I'm also unsure if we need delay at all. I think the 1.01.15 fuze firmware doesn't have such a delay function anymore |
| 15:04:56 | JdGordon | ok, ill try that |
| 15:05:19 | domonoky | funman: your patch works fine if i change the clkdiv to (3-1) in the m200v4 lcd driver |
| 15:05:29 | kugel | removing the delay in _display_on in the fuze driver didn't harm |
| 15:07:37 | JdGordon | x *= 512; seems to work |
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| 15:08:15 | JdGordon | as does commenting out the line ocmpletly |
| 15:08:21 | JdGordon | ill try it at full speed |
| 15:08:43 | funman | domonoky: did you try at minimal & maximal cpu freq ? |
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| 15:08:56 | kugel | JdGordon: yea, as I said, the delay is probably not needed at all (maybe only if dbop isn't clocked too fast) |
| 15:09:11 | kugel | funman: I'm gonna try your patch later |
| 15:09:15 | kugel | need to go now |
| 15:09:20 | domonoky | nope, i did just a short test.. does cpu boosting already work ? |
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| 15:09:25 | funman | yes it does |
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| 15:09:50 | funman | just change the arg to set_cpu_frequency() in system-as3525.c |
| 15:10:04 | JdGordon | and move it outside the #ifdef BOOTLOADER block |
| 15:10:08 | funman | documented values were based on 240MHz base clock, and now it's 248 but that's not a big deal |
| 15:10:14 | funman | hm .. |
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| 15:10:32 | JdGordon | yep, assuming its runnig at MAX its fine with 0 delay |
| 15:10:41 | JdGordon | although a full update is noticable |
| 15:10:42 | funman | thanks JdGordon for spotting this :/ |
| 15:11:32 | * | funman wonder what set_cpu_frequency() is defined to in BOOTLOADER |
| 15:12:39 | JdGordon | its not probably |
| 15:12:55 | JdGordon | the bootloaders dont have HAVE_ADJUSTABLE_CPU_FREQ do they? |
| 15:13:07 | funman | it's not conditional in config-clip.h at least |
| 15:13:48 | bertrik | gevaerts, you see partial packets, then nothing for some time and then more packets? I'm asking this because I can imagine that problems can also occur when a new packets pre-empts an transmission of an earlier packet still in progress. |
| 15:14:23 | domonoky | at least in the main-binary it works with all frequencys (as long as the debug menu cpu-frequency works already) which should be enough.. :-) |
| 15:14:47 | funman | I'll post an updated patch, domonoky please concatenate your diff with it and then we'll wait for JdGordon and kugel |
| 15:14:51 | gevaerts | bertrik: bertrik I don't see any indication of pre-empting |
| 15:15:01 | funman | oh JdGordon you pasted the diff already |
| 15:15:37 | gevaerts | bertrik: you can download the traces at gevaerts/usb">http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/usb and have a look yourself. Maybe I missed something obvious |
| 15:15:39 | JdGordon | yeah, I'm happy with the lcd performance as it is (maybe even get rid of the delay)... it can be fiddled with later |
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| 15:16:09 | domonoky | funman: my change is target\arm\lcd-ssd1815.c, Line 105, s/4/3 :-) very small patch. |
| 15:19:06 | funman | cool, now we just need the Fuze fix |
| 15:19:46 | funman | ameyer: you asked about Clipv2, do you own one? |
| 15:19:54 | * | gevaerts is annoyed. The D2 usb enumerates correctly if you're watching the logf display, but it hangs if you don' |
| 15:19:58 | gevaerts | t |
| 15:21:40 | * | JdGordon wants to commit the time/date screen patch, but the button bar gets in the way if its enabled :/ |
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| 15:30:56 | bertrik | gevaerts, it seems the data from the very first READ is already truncated, right? |
| 15:31:27 | gevaerts | bertrik: Yes. That could be a coincidence though |
| 15:34:05 | n1s | bertrik: static consts are often cheaper in binsize than creating constants on the stack |
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| 15:36:22 | funman | domonoky: I'm now failing inside codec_load_ram() .. |
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| 15:37:39 | domonoky | funman: that works for me. do you know where it fails there ? |
| 15:37:59 | funman | soon ^^ |
| 15:38:17 | domonoky | and how big is your codec buffer, and is it in IRAM ? ( i didnt apply your iram patch).. |
| 15:38:34 | bertrik | n1s, that surprises me a bit |
| 15:38:51 | funman | 256kb in iram, yes |
| 15:39:10 | bertrik | and we seem to be making it static in only about half the cases |
| 15:39:33 | * | domonoky has 265kb in dram.. |
| 15:40:09 | n1s | bertrik: in quite some cases the text messages can't be static consts as they depend on arguments to a function or similar |
| 15:40:31 | amiconn | JdGordon: The button bar cannot get in the way by definition, 'cause it's a desired feature |
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| 15:41:00 | JdGordon | its an anoying waste of screen... |
| 15:41:52 | funman | domonoky: some problem with addresses, codecbuf is in iram, and hdr->*_addr are in dram |
| 15:42:37 | domonoky | so its surely the iram patch making you problems.. |
| 15:42:48 | funman | of course ^^ |
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| 15:46:30 | funman | plugin.lds puts codecs in DRAM |
| 15:47:41 | bertrik | gevaerts, you've probably noticed this, but it seems the number of missing bytes in big bulk transfers is always 1 + 32*N |
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| 15:50:03 | funman | domonoky: ok codec_main() of mpa.c is running \o/ |
| 15:50:51 | raphi | hi guys, does somebody know a good page for self-repairing iPods? actually I would like to see the internal design etc.. THX |
| 15:53:04 | funman | domonoky: hmm I believe codecs overwrite already busy iram |
| 15:53:57 | funman | s/I believe// |
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| 15:54:44 | funman | and I don't know how the plugin (and codec) linker script can know which size of the IRAM is already filled by the main binary |
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| 15:55:15 | gevaerts | bertrik: I hadn't actually. Interesting |
| 15:55:23 | n1s | funman: usually iram is split into 2 sections, one used by the core and one for plugins/codecs |
| 15:56:18 | fml | pixelma2: why is the key map file (.tex) for irivers named h1xx_h300? Why not h1xx_h3xx? |
| 15:56:31 | funman | n1s: Ok I see what you mean, IRAMORIG is shifted in plugin.lds |
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| 16:06:55 | gevaerts | I found why USB didn't work properly on the D2. A missing #define... |
| 16:09:43 | n1s | JdGordon: any plans to work on FS #9260? |
| 16:10:01 | gevaerts | Not entirely there yet. It stops after 700MB |
| 16:11:56 | fml | gevaerts: integer overflow? |
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| 16:13:15 | bertrik | gevaerts, doing a blocking write seems to use a wakeup_wait to wait for completion, but usb_drv_wait seems to look directly in the qh structure, is this correct? |
| 16:14:39 | bertrik | (lines 589, 717 in usb-drv-arc.c) |
| 16:16:16 | gevaerts | bertrik: I'm not sure if it is correct, but nothing seems to ever call usb_drv_wait() |
| 16:16:53 | bertrik | ah right |
| 16:17:19 | gevaerts | It probably needs to go. Nothing like unused functions taking up binsize |
| 16:18:25 | * | gevaerts should probably trace a beast connection, to make sure that it really works properly |
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| 16:48:05 | funman | domonoky: iram part of codecs is not copied .. |
| 16:48:46 | domonoky | so thats why we get undefined instructions with mpa ? sounds likely.. |
| 16:49:19 | funman | look for USE_IRAM in export/config.h and add the as3525 case (I have linking problems but that may be local to my diffs) |
| 16:50:16 | funman | ld: rockbox.elf: Not enough room for program headers, try linking with -N |
| 16:50:31 | funman | ld: rockbox.elf: final linked failed: Bad value |
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| 16:54:29 | * | domonoky gets the same error... |
| 16:55:00 | funman | I understand that rockbox is too big, but I remember another message (region DRAM is full) |
| 16:55:35 | funman | linking with -N does work, but then "region PLUGIN_IRAM is full" |
| 16:55:59 | funman | let's not define USE_PLUGIN_IRAM |
| 16:56:24 | * | funman is a bit lost |
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| 16:59:03 | funman | after all if codec buffer is already in iram, no need to bother copying icode/idata etc.. |
| 16:59:07 | bertrik | gevaerts, one other thing about USB: when a bulk transfer goes wrong, it seems that there is always a problem with the first transaction (but possible with other transactions in the transfer too) |
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| 17:00:41 | domonoky | funman: putting the codec buffer into iram is new for rockbox, so it might not work correctly, but i get the same errors with codec buffer in dram. |
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| 17:01:23 | funman | domonoky: I think you need to modify apps/plugins/plugin.lds |
| 17:01:48 | funman | now codec seems to load but has no effect |
| 17:01:53 | funman | (no reboots at least ^^) |
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| 17:04:05 | kugel | funman: I'm going to test the patch now. What's the plck now? |
| 17:04:36 | funman | not modified, it's not relative to the pll : it's frequency is derived from the 24MHz crystal |
| 17:05:01 | kugel | ok |
| 17:05:13 | domonoky | funman: does it call pcm_play_dma_start() ? For me the wav codec does it, but only once. |
| 17:05:39 | domonoky | funman: is the iram really at 0 ? |
| 17:06:29 | funman | yes |
| 17:06:48 | funman | there is other aliases however, but it's just more convenient to use 0 |
| 17:07:09 | domonoky | oki. |
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| 17:07:36 | gevaerts | bertrik: I'm not sure. The transfer starting at event #115730 has a crc errors and some missed replies, but the first few transactions are OK |
| 17:08:35 | linuxstb | domonoky: I assume you're not overwriting the interrupt vectors at 0x0? |
| 17:08:56 | funman | domonoky: not sure .. it's called sometimes but the WPS overwrites my lcd_puts() |
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| 17:09:07 | funman | hm the timer is now at 0:01 !! |
| 17:11:01 | funman | domonoky: do you want my diff for rockbox app and plugins/codecs linker scripts? |
| 17:11:18 | domonoky | funman: would be nice. |
| 17:11:19 | funman | it's not very clear to read, but it seems to work ^^ |
| 17:11:59 | funman | http://paste.ubuntu.com/78316/ |
| 17:12:35 | kugel | funman: not sure why JdGordon was happy with the lcd performance. His clock is too slow on the fuze |
| 17:12:47 | funman | what it does is use 0 -> 0x8000 as iram for the main build, and 0x10000 -> 0x30000 as a codec buffer. It also declares iramsize as 0 so codecs think they have no iram available |
| 17:13:01 | funman | kugel: perhaps because the hardware of fuze and e200v2 are different |
| 17:13:22 | funman | he mentioned slowness but not critical (i.e. it can wait for a later fix) |
| 17:13:29 | kugel | funman: iirc it's the same controller |
| 17:13:44 | funman | why aren't the 2 drivers merged then?? |
| 17:14:08 | kugel | funman: because the fuze is flipped, so there's some difference |
| 17:14:16 | kugel | but yea, one could try merging |
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| 17:14:22 | funman | if it's minor differences, #defines could help |
| 17:14:40 | funman | so we would avoid duplicating the work, or fixing one and forgetting the other |
| 17:14:58 | * | gevaerts is browsing the d2 filesystem from his PC while the d2 is running rockbox :) |
| 17:15:26 | funman | gevaerts: you dd the filesystem when running the OF, and browse that image after having rebooted the d2 to rockbox ? |
| 17:15:36 | kugel | funman: I'll have a look at that. Anyway, I tested to remove the lcd_delay, and it works flawlessly. Remove it altogether with this patch or seperately |
| 17:15:50 | funman | kugel: just put it in please |
| 17:16:05 | kugel | what? |
| 17:16:32 | gevaerts | funman: The OF has its own formatter built in, so no need to do all that :) |
| 17:16:41 | funman | take the patch on FS #9588 , add what you need to get a correctly working fuze lcd driver, paste the new patch. |
| 17:17:25 | funman | if removing the delays results in correctly working display, then remove them |
| 17:17:43 | funman | kugel: make sure you test with != cpu clock speeds (change the argument of set_cpu_frequency() ) |
| 17:18:42 | funman | domonoky: pcm_play_dma_start() is only called once, when starting / or each time I pause and unpause |
| 17:19:40 | domonoky | funman: same for me... something is not working correctly.. maybe because it calls pcm_bytes_waiting() and we return always 0 ? :-) |
| 17:19:56 | kugel | funman: huh? |
| 17:19:57 | * | funman returns the amount of bytes not sent through the dma channel |
| 17:20:20 | funman | kugel: in the patch I posted : + set_cpu_frequency(CPUFREQ_DEFAULT); |
| 17:20:36 | funman | replace DEFAULT with MAX and see if your lcd driver still works |
| 17:21:08 | linuxstb | kugel: What makes you think it's the same controller? The register layout is different... |
| 17:21:21 | domonoky | funman: so thats not why it only requests one pcm transfer... :-/ |
| 17:21:31 | kugel | will do |
| 17:22:07 | funman | perhaps my 'chain' of transfers isn't working |
| 17:23:36 | kugel | linuxstb: the driver looks quite similar. I haven't looked into it detailed so I might be wrong |
| 17:23:50 | linuxstb | Yes, it's definitely similar, but not the same. |
| 17:23:53 | bertrik | gevaerts, ah yes, you're right |
| 17:24:02 | funman | by the way I think we should create 2 linker scripts : 1 for targets with 2M of RAM and 1 for targets with >2M (with the codec buffer in SDRAM) |
| 17:24:13 | domonoky | but i would think playback should call pcm_play_dma_start multiple times, even when the dma transver doesnt work. |
| 17:24:17 | kugel | funman: works with max |
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| 17:24:40 | funman | kugel: then post an updated patch please, and I'll commit it |
| 17:25:23 | kugel | but I think when we want to support videos, we might need to have to raise pclk, since I think the lcd is too slow for animations (and I already used the lowest divider now) |
| 17:25:35 | kugel | but yea, that can surely be fixed later |
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| 17:27:46 | n1s | fast lcd updates are good for the general UI, not only videos |
| 17:29:40 | kugel | n1s: Sure, but I think for videos it needs to be a bit faster than for UI, and it's not so slow |
| 17:30:39 | kugel | funman: done! |
| 17:31:39 | funman | kugel: thanks |
| 17:32:00 | kugel | you're welcome :) |
| 17:33:00 | n1s | kugel: faster updates are always good to avoid the ui feeling sluggish, especially when playing music and not boosting |
| 17:33:51 | funman | IMO we should mesure battery life reduction with higher pclk to find a good compromise |
| 17:38:48 | domonoky | question for people with knowledge over rockboxs pcm system: should pcm_play_dma_start() only play the requested size, or should it somehow use the "pcm_callback_for_more" ?? |
| 17:39:31 | kugel | n1s: yes, but we aren't at the point we can enjoy the UI yet. As I said, that can be fixed later, for now it's only important that it works |
| 17:39:45 | linuxstb | domonoky: The DMA interrupt handle will call the get_more() callback when the first DMA transfer is complete. |
| 17:39:52 | domonoky | at least the dma handler in pcm-coldfire looks like it uses the pcm_callback_for_more.. so we probably miss that.. |
| 17:40:39 | n1s | kugel: yes, sure getting it working ok is more important than optimization i just disagree with your statement that fast lcd is more important for video that other things :) |
| 17:41:39 | kugel | n1s: I just meant, for UI 12fps would be already sufficient (imho), which isn't the case for videos |
| 17:41:54 | domonoky | linuxstb: it gets a bit more complicated, as the dmac on as3525 only can transfer 2^11bit at once.. so we need more then 1 transfer for one "chunk"... but we really miss the callback at moment :-) |
| 17:42:45 | n1s | kugel if you only get 12 fps that means that if something else is using 50% of the cpu you get 6 fps and if you are not boosting you would get something like 2fps |
| 17:43:48 | * | funman hears something that looks like voice |
| 17:44:06 | * | n1s wonders what a voice looks like... |
| 17:44:14 | kugel | wave forms |
| 17:44:23 | domonoky | wow.. now with the get-more callback ? |
| 17:44:26 | funman | way too fast voice, then painful sound |
| 17:44:28 | funman | yes |
| 17:44:44 | domonoky | nice.. |
| 17:45:07 | funman | wow now something that looked like AC/DC guitar .. |
| 17:45:27 | domonoky | would you like to share our testpcm code ? it think your attempt fits now better then my LLI code.. :-) |
| 17:45:30 | funman | but my code is probably very broken .. |
| 17:45:47 | funman | sure |
| 17:47:11 | funman | full diff (with linker changes) http://paste.ubuntu.com/78327/ |
| 17:47:30 | * | domonoky sees a few gentlemen mails in the not so far future :-) |
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| 17:47:39 | funman | hmm I notice a wrong cgu_audio divider |
| 17:48:32 | funman | domonoky: which frequency for i2so_mclk do we want to use? |
| 17:48:55 | domonoky | it has to fit 128x the sample frequency... |
| 17:49:04 | domonoky | so ~5,6Mhz.. |
| 17:49:17 | funman | and don't forget the PLL just changed :) |
| 17:50:15 | funman | wow I definitely hear real sound, but it looks like pcm transfers are repeated |
| 17:50:32 | kugel | \O/ |
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| 17:54:31 | funman | domonoky: I notice dma_size should be >> 4 after it's read from the callback (I store the number of 4*32bits transfers) |
| 17:55:48 | domonoky | what m_clock divider do you use now ? |
| 17:56:19 | funman | 248MHz / 44 |
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| 18:01:08 | funman | perhaps pcm_set_frequency() would be worth writing |
| 18:07:44 | funman | my source is WAV@44.1KHz but I still have problems finding the correct frequency :( |
| 18:08:19 | * | domonoky gets "noises" with this code, but no recognicable sound.. |
| 18:09:59 | funman | try with lower clock (divider == 100) |
| 18:13:49 | * | domonoky now gets short burst of recognicable sound, with bursts of noice in between.. |
| 18:14:01 | domonoky | s/noice/noise |
| 18:14:10 | funman | getting close :) |
| 18:16:02 | funman | I too get frequent noise (pops, cracks) but the major part is recognizable sound |
| 18:16:20 | funman | looks like it's too slow, but I know the rythm of this song and in fact it's too quick |
| 18:16:47 | funman | perhaps we are transferring too much at a time .. |
| 18:17:00 | bertrik | dma_start_addr should probably be a unsigned char * instead of a void * |
| 18:17:16 | funman | cosmetics :) |
| 18:23:00 | funman | I get something better with 1*32bits transfers .. |
| 18:23:46 | funman | \o/ |
| 18:23:59 | funman | lots of cracks and weird sound, but it's definitely there .. |
| 18:24:59 | funman | what are the requirements for the 'gentlemen' e-mail? |
| 18:25:50 | domonoky | svn-ready pcm code ? :-) |
| 18:25:53 | gevaerts | A mail client? |
| 18:25:54 | funman | :'( |
| 18:26:16 | domonoky | and of course, dont forget the ladys.. :-) |
| 18:26:33 | funman | domonoky: perhaps I misread the OF and it used 4*8bits transfers |
| 18:27:22 | funman | mp3 doesn't decode however, perhaps it's too slow to fill the pcm buffer |
| 18:27:34 | gevaerts | funman: the first one boasts about playing four seconds |
| 18:28:03 | funman | hm? |
| 18:28:17 | funman | mp3 is 36.81% realtime :-) |
| 18:28:59 | domonoky | wow DMA_S4 is much better.. still some noises, but really recogniceable.. |
| 18:29:06 | funman | and the cpu should be maxed (248MHz) |
| 18:29:08 | domonoky | äh DMA_S1 |
| 18:29:18 | funman | domonoky: I used S1 and clock divider 44 (~5.6MHz) |
| 18:31:09 | funman | perhaps a low pclk is too slow for SD transfers (or we use a too high clock divider in SD code) |
| 18:32:42 | funman | with PCLK @ 62MHz instead of 24MHz I see 168% realtime decoding speed for a mp3 |
| 18:33:27 | domonoky | so maybe we should higher pclk again.. :-) |
| 18:33:37 | * | funman looks somewhere else |
| 18:33:43 | funman | I want to verify SD code first |
| 18:34:30 | funman | ah we use maximal speed already |
| 18:34:40 | funman | so I suppose yes .. we want to do that :o |
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| 18:36:27 | funman | dma_start_addr should be increased _after_ dma_enable_channel() |
| 18:36:59 | funman | no more cracks/pops ^^ |
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| 18:39:54 | funman | I have deadlocks in mp3 codec, but wav is fine .. |
| 18:40:13 | bertrik | how about we try to follow the clock recommendations on page 112 of the datasheet? |
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| 18:41:48 | funman | depends which precision we can get by not modifying the PLL |
| 18:42:08 | funman | if needed there is another pll, we could use it to keep fclk independant of pclk |
| 18:48:59 | * | domonoky now gets no noises anymore, but it shutsdown shortly after start of playing.. but there may be other changes in my code which causes this. |
| 18:49:17 | funman | domonoky: are you playing wav ? |
| 18:49:24 | domonoky | yes. |
| 18:50:32 | funman | After these emotions, I'm going to take some rest ;) |
| 18:50:37 | funman | thanks a lot |
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| 19:01:11 | leachim6 | yo |
| 19:02:03 | leachim6 | when I use the Apple OS on my iPod 5g (original) all of my albums have art |
| 19:02:20 | leachim6 | is there a way I can automatically get album art for all my albums in rockbox |
| 19:02:29 | leachim6 | without doing hundreds of albums manuall |
| 19:02:32 | leachim6 | *manually |
| 19:03:32 | bertrik | domonoky, what did you change compared with funman's patch? |
| 19:05:00 | domonoky | bertrik: i only changes what funman said, changed the m-clock divider, move the dm_start_addr increasing.. but there are of course much more changes in my tree from experimenting... |
| 19:05:51 | domonoky | bertrik: are trying to repoduce our sound experiment ? |
| 19:06:12 | bertrik | domonoky, yeah playing with it a bit |
| 19:06:33 | domonoky | you need to make sure, you have enough audio buffer... and try wav files. |
| 19:07:58 | * | domonoky has now 1.14Mb buffer, now that the codec is in IRAM.. :-) |
| 19:08:31 | leachim6 | so...can anyone relate to my situation |
| 19:08:32 | leachim6 | ? |
| 19:08:48 | domonoky | bertrik: you get any sound ? |
| 19:08:59 | leachim6 | ...nevermind... |
| 19:09:00 | leachim6 | my bad |
| 19:09:04 | leachim6 | "How to Use Embedded iTunes Cover Art On An iPod " |
| 19:09:05 | leachim6 | from the wiki |
| 19:09:09 | leachim6 | Reading is fun! |
| 19:09:24 | bertrik | domonoky, I get sound from an mp3, but it repeats a lot and has noise |
| 19:09:31 | domonoky | leachim6: take a look at: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=AlbumArt |
| 19:10:02 | leachim6 | I know...that's where I found this from |
| 19:10:29 | domonoky | bertrik: hurray ! repeating is probably from too slow encoder, and the noises from the incorrect dma_start_addr |
| 19:12:12 | domonoky | and perhaps the dma_size, funman said it should be >>4 after the get_more callback. |
| 19:12:59 | domonoky | another change: DMA_S1 instead of DMA_S4 |
| 19:13:59 | bertrik | I'm not familiar at all yet with the DMA controller |
| 19:15:00 | domonoky | perhaps we should just wait for a cleand up patch from funman :-) |
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| 19:16:48 | leachim6 | does anyone here use this on linux -> http://vcardenasblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/album-art-extracter-for-rockbox.html |
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| 19:19:27 | bertrik | domonoky, what do you use as a wav file? some 16-bit stereo wav file? and is there an easy command line tool to create a wav from an mp3? |
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| 19:20:53 | domonoky | yes,just a small 44khz/16bit wav file... |
| 19:25:02 | bertrik | domonoky, it goes way too fast here |
| 19:25:55 | domonoky | then change the mclock divider in CGU_AUDIO ... its not correct anymore. (different pll frequency). |
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| 19:41:11 | funman | I noticed a problem with DMA_S1 (1*32bits) : I miss part of the sound |
| 19:41:32 | funman | I listen to AC/DC (low frequency instruments and high frequency voices) and the voices are hardly noticeable |
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| 19:46:58 | * | funman wonders if we should use 16 bits wide transfers |
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| 19:49:30 | funman | 2 16-bit audio samples (one per channel) : both values are written to the 32 bits wide I2SO_DATA register |
| 19:49:41 | funman | (at the same time) |
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| 19:51:33 | domonoky | that how the datasheet says it should be for 16bit samples. |
| 19:54:30 | funman | so I think we are correct to use 32bits transfers |
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| 19:59:22 | domonoky | could you post a patch again, with all your recent changes ?, then i will try on a fresh svn again, to see if to shutdowns are gone.. |
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| 20:00:57 | funman | http://paste.ubuntu.com/78382/ |
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| 20:04:34 | kugel | funman, domonoky: great job of you. I love you :) |
| 20:05:49 | bertrik | we only hear the difference between left and right or something like that :P ? |
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| 20:07:45 | funman | at the condition to be very focused, because making the difference between 2 noises is hard :P |
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| 20:10:21 | Bagder | funman: congratulations and well done! |
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| 20:11:07 | funman | thanks! |
| 20:11:28 | funman | I was not alone - especially if considering the usefulness/time given ratio :-) |
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| 20:12:14 | kugel | domonoky, funman: Really, great job. I'm looking forward to hear something from my fuze |
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| 20:15:27 | gevaerts | kugel: you could try adding a playlist control file (maybe stolen from another player) and setting the right settings for auto-resume |
| 20:15:54 | domonoky | funman: if i only apply your patch to svn, i get a dma error channel 0 ... |
| 20:16:13 | funman | weird Oo |
| 20:16:36 | domonoky | channel 0 is sd, correct ? |
| 20:16:39 | funman | correc |
| 20:16:39 | funman | t |
| 20:16:46 | funman | did you update the bootloader as well ? (cgu_peri change) |
| 20:17:09 | funman | perhaps it's not needed if we can modify the divider in cgu_ide to get fast transfers |
| 20:17:33 | domonoky | yes, and the dma error comes, when i start to play something. |
| 20:18:01 | funman | what if you look at MCI_STATUS(0) ? |
| 20:20:28 | funman | jhMikeS: do you remember something about high frequencies not being played on iaudio x5 ? |
| 20:23:16 | bertrik | funman, maybe it's a property of the codec, like the HPCM |
| 20:23:53 | funman | that's what I was looking for, but you seem to know that part better than us ;) |
| 20:24:19 | bertrik | =headphone common mode, a kind of virtual ground not being enabled. That would also explain hearing L minus R instead of stereo |
| 20:24:40 | domonoky | funman: MCI_STATUS is 020A000 when i get the dma error. now lets check the datasheet :-) |
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| 20:29:02 | funman | domonoky: perhaps stupid: did you change config-m200v4.h ? |
| 20:30:58 | domonoky | hm, nope. perhaps i should adjust the codec size :-) |
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| 20:31:27 | * | kugel is curious about the CPU_FREQ #define in config-fuze.g |
| 20:31:30 | kugel | .h that is |
| 20:32:16 | funman | just grep for it, it's used in timers or something |
| 20:32:35 | kugel | it doesn't fit out value though |
| 20:32:40 | funman | true |
| 20:33:15 | kugel | uhm, why is my binsize 1,3MB? |
| 20:33:38 | kugel | with mass features disabled |
| 20:33:58 | funman | vim rockbox.map :) |
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| 20:34:55 | kugel | WOW |
| 20:35:04 | kugel | Binary size: 1236636 |
| 20:35:05 | kugel | Actual size: 1236628 |
| 20:35:07 | kugel | RAM usage: 806540868 |
| 20:35:12 | funman | :P |
| 20:35:17 | kugel | there IS something wrong |
| 20:35:32 | funman | did you change your linker script ? |
| 20:35:42 | kugel | no |
| 20:37:01 | bertrik | on the c200 there is a trick to shorten database refresh by making a directory read-only. Do we know what file the ams sansa update on database refresh? |
| 20:37:16 | * | bertrik hears true stereo |
| 20:37:20 | kugel | funman: svn version is the same |
| 20:37:34 | gevaerts | shotofadds: maybe you saw it already, but I got USB to work on the D2 |
| 20:37:40 | domonoky | funman: now with the codec size of the clip, instead of the dma error, it shutsdown again.. :-/ |
| 20:37:40 | funman | kugel: I think the problem can be seen in the map file |
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| 20:37:55 | funman | domonoky: sorry I have no clue here.. |
| 20:38:14 | * | domonoky will investigate.. |
| 20:38:22 | bertrik | it was indeed the HPCM_off setting, it should not be set for the clip |
| 20:38:37 | bertrik | (in as3514.c) |
| 20:38:53 | kugel | funman: http://pastebin.ca/1271299 |
| 20:39:08 | kugel | I'm not so familiar with maps file, maybe you spot something obvious |
| 20:39:23 | funman | sorry I don't want to read that big file |
| 20:39:58 | kugel | funman: memory configuration is a line 265, it looks weird to me |
| 20:40:05 | funman | and I got the same RAM usage on the clip |
| 20:40:16 | shotofadds | gevaerts: yes, I saw and I'm just trying it now. good work! |
| 20:40:26 | kugel | IRAM 0x00000000 0x00050000 - DRAM 0x30000000 0x00680000 - *default* 0x00000000 0xffffffff |
| 20:40:48 | funman | bertrik: wow, now I hear the all the frequencies ! |
| 20:41:06 | bertrik | \o/ |
| 20:41:06 | kugel | funman, Bagder: what do you think? Maybe it's time to put the real targets on the build table as well? |
| 20:41:34 | funman | I prefer to wait when sound will be committed |
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| 20:42:12 | gevaerts | shotofadds: basically you were only missing one define. It needs both HAVE_USBSTACK and USE_ROCKBOX_USB. Maybe USE_ROCKBOX_USB needs to be inverted, as the normal case should be to use rockbox for usb |
| 20:42:42 | * | funman feels safe in new york city with rockbox on the Sansa Clip |
| 20:44:13 | Nico_P | funman: congratulations! |
| 20:44:49 | kugel | why's my binsize so huge? |
| 20:44:56 | kugel | it's definitely wrong |
| 20:45:08 | funman | Nico_P: thanks, but don't forget i'm not alone ;) |
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| 20:45:47 | Nico_P | of course :) |
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| 20:47:07 | linuxstb | kugel: If the build itself is working, then the problem will likely be the mkinfo.pl script |
| 20:47:23 | funman | now we must clean up and finish the PCM code, then find why the system locks/shutdowns (no more reboots though) |
| 20:47:24 | bertrik | wow, even mp3 seemed to work for a while ! :) |
| 20:47:30 | jhMikeS | funman: high frequencies not on x5? |
| 20:47:45 | kugel | linuxstb: the build itself is too big (not just what in info is written). And no, I can't say it's working |
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| 20:48:13 | funman | jhMikeS: in fact bertrik fixed the problem since : something with hpcm setting |
| 20:48:22 | linuxstb | kugel: Then I would look at the linker script. |
| 20:48:24 | zicho | if i get I/O-errors while trying to edit my .rockbox-folder, is there anyway i can fix it, or do i need to format completely? |
| 20:48:24 | kugel | linuxstb: the difference between rockbox.elf and rockbox.bin should be big? |
| 20:48:31 | funman | 8 bytes |
| 20:48:40 | funman | oh oops no. it shouldn't be that big |
| 20:48:48 | funman | (but bigger than 8 bytes) |
| 20:49:05 | kugel | my rockbox.elf is 798k, rockbox.bin 1,3M |
| 20:49:19 | kugel | funman: rockbox.bin should be even smaller, right? |
| 20:49:32 | funman | that means some problems in memory segments, because rockbox.bin should be smaller (only code, elf headers removed) |
| 20:49:44 | funman | hm for me it's a bit bigger |
| 20:49:45 | krazykit` | zicho, you at least need to fsck/chkdisk that filesystem. |
| 20:49:47 | linuxstb | zicho: It depends what's causing those errors... What device are you running Rockbox on? Have you tried a disk scan (e.g. chkdsk on windows, fsck.vfat on Linux) |
| 20:49:51 | funman | perhaps the stacks are objcopied |
| 20:50:16 | zicho | linuxstb, im running on an F60 |
| 20:50:25 | zicho | also im running ubuntu |
| 20:50:34 | kugel | funman: can you take a look at the linker script? |
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| 20:50:41 | kugel | I have no idea of those |
| 20:50:45 | bertrik | maybe implement pcm_play_lock/unlock, should be simple |
| 20:50:46 | funman | kugel: no |
| 20:50:53 | shotofadds | gevaerts: IIRC I copied those USB #defines from vitja's config-iaudio7.h, so that one is probably wrong too. |
| 20:50:59 | * | bertrik tries |
| 20:51:26 | funman | kugel: if ram usage is heavy, it means you have heavy things in there, period. |
| 20:51:47 | funman | if you want to find where/what exactly, look at rockbox.map |
| 20:51:51 | kugel | funman: ram usage is more then the fuze has ram |
| 20:52:03 | shotofadds | gevaerts: I can browse the root directtory in Windows ;-) |
| 20:52:04 | kugel | your ram usage is wrong as well, but you don't seem to care |
| 20:52:40 | funman | exact I don't care because I don't see how this is a problem I can't report to later |
| 20:52:43 | zicho | linuxstb, how do i fsck.vfat on my F60, then? |
| 20:53:07 | gevaerts | shotofadds: great :) So when will the FTL Work properly? ;) |
| 20:53:12 | funman | ram usage is 768MB on the Clip - ridiculously high, and until it's not proven that this is the source of the bugs we encounter, I'll focus on other stuff |
| 20:53:27 | kugel | funman: also, I'm more worried about my binsize |
| 20:53:35 | shotofadds | gevaerts: but it only works if I replace the "not supported" panic in usb_drv_send_nonblocking with a return statement.. and I get *lots* of random pauses |
| 20:53:36 | funman | looks normal to me |
| 20:53:41 | shotofadds | gevaerts: haha! |
| 20:53:43 | kugel | 1,3M is not normal |
| 20:53:44 | shotofadds | funny man |
| 20:53:54 | * | funman decoded ogg & flac |
| 20:54:02 | kugel | it should be <500k, since I have many features disabled |
| 20:54:43 | funman | look at individual .o files and check their size |
| 20:54:46 | gevaerts | shotofadds: weird. I didn't notice issues on linux... |
| 20:54:56 | gevaerts | At least not that sort of issues |
| 20:55:17 | * | amiconn returns, and sees that he needs to congratulate funman and domonoky |
| 20:55:37 | krazykit` | zicho, sudo fsck.vfat /dev/whatever_it_is, once it's unmounted |
| 20:57:03 | kugel | err |
| 20:57:30 | shotofadds | gevaerts: I think I remember reading that Windows attempts to write to sector 0 on connection, or some such craziness. In linux Rockbox just freezes :/ |
| 20:57:38 | kugel | I have .o's for ingenic_jz47x |
| 20:58:05 | gevaerts | shotofadds: I've actually seen windows do that. |
| 20:58:14 | kugel | oops, i wasn't in the build dir |
| 20:58:22 | zicho | krazykit`, fsck.vfat didnt show any errors. |
| 20:58:33 | shotofadds | gevaerts: though I don't know if that's the reason I always get that panic |
| 20:58:38 | funman | ogg/flac/wav sounds OK, but mp3 sounds weird (small cuts). Luckily only during a short time (before it crashes) |
| 20:59:40 | shotofadds | gevaerts: how difficult would it be to expose a second drive in UMS (eg. for physical NAND access)? I guess this is what you did with the RAM disk stuff.. |
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| 21:00:37 | zicho | krazykit`, if i format everything on my player, will it be possible to reinstall rockbox? |
| 21:01:15 | krazykit` | zicho, you might have to use the recovery mode (taking it apart) if you reformat. i'm not quite sure how it works. |
| 21:01:39 | zicho | what does the recovery mode do? |
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| 21:02:22 | zicho | isnt there just some way to replace the corrupt .rockbox with a functional one? |
| 21:02:51 | kugel | "export LD=/usr/local/arm-elf/bin/arm-elf-ar" doesn't sound right, does it? |
| 21:02:59 | funman | not really |
| 21:03:01 | kugel | I'd expect arm-elf-ld |
| 21:03:11 | funman | well ar is used to make static libraries |
| 21:03:12 | kugel | that's in my makefile |
| 21:03:12 | gevaerts | shotofadds: There are two ways you can do that. One would be to change the nand driver to do multivolume things (i.e. add the appropriate IF_MV2(int drive,) stuff, see the mmc or sd drivers for examples), the other is to use the multidriver patch (FS #9545). The patch doesn't fully work right now for the d2 though, but I'm working on it |
| 21:03:37 | kugel | export AR=/usr/local/arm-elf/bin/arm-elf-ar is the next line, so it's not ignored |
| 21:03:57 | gevaerts | amiconn: I'm planning to do a trace on the beast tonight or tomorrow, to see if it really doesn't have the same issues as portalplayer |
| 21:04:20 | krazykit` | zicho, you could try to just delete the corrupt .rockbox dir and unzip a new build |
| 21:04:31 | amiconn | I couldn't notice any, the beast is working fine even through my "crazy" hub |
| 21:04:33 | shotofadds | gevaerts: does your d2 exit the USB screen when you disconnect the cable? mine doesn't |
| 21:04:36 | zicho | krazykit`, if i do that, i get I/O-error |
| 21:04:53 | gevaerts | shotofadds: it doesn't. That's one of the remaining issues |
| 21:05:02 | amiconn | (that's how I always connect it, as my standard mini-b cable is plugged into it) |
| 21:06:02 | gevaerts | amiconn: I know it's unlikely to show anything, but it's just a few minutes work anyway, so I'll do it just in case |
| 21:06:11 | krazykit` | zicho, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatFXPort#Gigabeat_Recovery_Procedures |
| 21:06:22 | krazykit` | not that it's the best option, but it's an option. |
| 21:06:39 | zicho | i'll look into it |
| 21:06:46 | bertrik | hmm, not so sure what pcm_play_lock is supposed to do exactly... |
| 21:07:11 | funman | bertrik: domonoky should we open a FS patch to keep our work in sync ? |
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| 21:07:33 | gevaerts | shotofadds: sometimes my d2 doesn't see the usb connection (or the charger connection more precisely). Have you ever seen that? |
| 21:07:51 | bertrik | funman, yes probably |
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| 21:08:07 | shotofadds | gevaerts: yes, it just happened to me, but I've seen this with the OF too. |
| 21:08:29 | shotofadds | I can get Rockbox to show up in lsusb, but cannot dd from it. any hints? |
| 21:08:32 | bertrik | funman, do we stick to DMA_S1 or do you have plans to use bigger transfers later? |
| 21:08:36 | funman | bertrik: I let you do since you'll be more advanced than I |
| 21:08:47 | funman | bertrik: I think we must stick to it since I2SO_DATA is only 32 bits |
| 21:08:51 | gevaerts | What does dmesg say? |
| 21:09:13 | bertrik | ok, then I'll reduce the * 4 *1 to just * 4 :) |
| 21:09:59 | funman | :o) |
| 21:10:19 | shotofadds | gevaerts: I was already pasting it ;) http://pastebin.ca/1271337 |
| 21:10:37 | funman | bertrik: perhaps it needs to be /4 in dma_enable_channel (to have less calculations) |
| 21:11:23 | bertrik | ok, I'll work on that and create an FS patch, ok? |
| 21:11:28 | funman | yep |
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| 21:13:09 | funman | by the way, is (int)/(2^x) always assembled as >>x ? |
| 21:13:17 | gevaerts | shotofadds: are you by any chance looking at a some debug screen while trying this? |
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| 21:14:51 | zicho | what are the necessary files needed for rockbox to boot? |
| 21:15:24 | linuxstb | zicho: Rockbox itself needs everything in /.rockbox/. The Gigabeat's bootloader (Toshiba's code) requires the files inside /GBSYSTEM/ |
| 21:15:51 | linuxstb | So you need to keep both - and don't disconnect from your PC whilst reformatting, before you copy those files back. |
| 21:16:21 | zicho | so if i keep gbsystem and a clean .rockbox, its safe to format? |
| 21:16:55 | shotofadds | gevaerts: hmm, yes on that occasion I was viewing the logf screen as I saw you mention earlier (although nothing was being output as I had not enabled it in the .c files). Try this one: http://pastebin.ca/1271344 (same behaviour, but USB plugged in from the menu) |
| 21:18:39 | kugel | linuxstb: the .o files aren't bigger. I think the main binary contains stuff twice or something |
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| 21:19:26 | linuxstb | zicho: I think so... You can see some more info here - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatFXPort |
| 21:20:05 | linuxstb | kugel: As I said, I would blame the linker script - it's likely filling up the middle of your binary with zeros. But I'm not an expert on linker scripts, so can't help further. |
| 21:20:08 | shotofadds | gevaerts: config-m200.h doesn't define USE_ROCKBOX_USB either, and that appeared to work most of the time. unless something has changed semi-recently... |
| 21:20:13 | gevaerts | shotofadds: when you connect "something" (I think in usb_core.c) calls usb_request_exclusive_ata() which sends messages to all queues telling things to back off the disk. As long as not all threads have replied you get the Not Ready replies |
| 21:20:29 | zicho | linuxstb, well, its worth a shot. it doesnt work anyway. |
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| 21:21:19 | zicho | but isnt there a way to get around I/O-errors? |
| 21:21:37 | gevaerts | shotofadds: it may depend on whether system_reboot() is implemented or not |
| 21:21:38 | kugel | linuxstb: And I don't have even a little idea of linker scripts |
| 21:22:14 | kugel | that's why I suggest we put the ams sansas on the build table, so if someone with an idea stumbles upon that |
| 21:22:28 | kugel | I think it's a good moment anyway now, as we have sound |
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| 21:24:54 | draft | howdy |
| 21:25:36 | draft | i have iPod Mini 4GB (2nd revision) and i think it has some bad sectors on it's HD.. is there any possibility to format the player so it marks the bad sectors? |
| 21:25:58 | draft | i have the latest rockbox installed |
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| 21:28:14 | Jaykay | draft: use checkdisk of windows..... |
| 21:28:25 | shotofadds | gevaerts: well, that makes sense but I can't think what would make the difference between my build and yours. I'll try a plain SVN in a while... |
| 21:28:25 | Jaykay | from windows |
| 21:28:57 | draft | Jaykay: should i format it? |
| 21:29:00 | draft | once again? |
| 21:29:28 | Jaykay | no |
| 21:29:47 | gevaerts | draft: one thing that's fairly popular with ipod minis these days is replacing the hard drive with a compactflash card. |
| 21:30:03 | draft | gevaerts: how much do they cost? |
| 21:30:04 | draft | approx |
| 21:30:11 | draft | i'll format the whole thing |
| 21:30:15 | amiconn | Depends on what size you want |
| 21:30:16 | draft | and reinstall rockbox |
| 21:30:18 | Jaykay | just run chckdsk x: /r , x is the drive letter |
| 21:30:24 | kugel | can I have more verbose make output? |
| 21:31:11 | funman | make V=1 |
| 21:31:24 | gevaerts | draft: depends on capacity. a 32GB card will cost around 60 euro these days I think. if you're happy with 4GB I can't imagine it being more than 10 or so |
| 21:31:25 | ze | quick look i'm seeing 8g cf for $20-$30, 16gb for $30-$50 (bottom-end prices, they both go far higher) |
| 21:31:42 | ze | oh sorry, forgot US$ is useless |
| 21:32:29 | draft | i'm using |
| 21:32:30 | draft | EUR |
| 21:32:56 | gevaerts | amiconn: as predicted the beast has no errors at all |
| 21:34:09 | * | gevaerts wonders why the usb_enable(true) at usb.c:260 is there |
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| 21:34:55 | gevaerts | "make sure the usb controller is operating before we reset the player"? |
| 21:34:56 | kugel | Hmm, arm-elf-objcopy makes it so big |
| 21:35:25 | kugel | the stripped elf is 600K, arm-elf-objcopy -O binary creates a 1,3M .bin |
| 21:36:09 | amiconn | Check the .map |
| 21:36:38 | amiconn | There's most probably some section linked into a different memory area than it should |
| 21:36:53 | kugel | amiconn: I don't understand the .map file really. http://pastebin.ca/1271299 would be nice if you could have a look |
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| 21:39:16 | amiconn | The problem is obviously that .iram (.icode...) goes after .bss, so that the whole bss ends up in the binfiöe |
| 21:39:24 | amiconn | *binfile |
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| 21:39:42 | amiconn | The .lds needs fixing |
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| 21:41:29 | bertrik | funman, the FS patch for ams sansa playback is at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9592 |
| 21:41:29 | kugel | amiconn: if I know how.. |
| 21:41:49 | bertrik | actually didn't change much except for the dma size / 4 |
| 21:43:14 | funman | bertrik: saratoga just told me we have to use unsigned types for /4 to be a >>2; but perhaps it's better to directly use a shift |
| 21:43:58 | bertrik | and size_t is signed, right? |
| 21:44:11 | funman | no, ssize_t is |
| 21:44:59 | amiconn | funman: Indeed using >>2 is better. If you do /4 with signed types, gcc does a shift and some postprocessing to ensure the round-towards-zero rule of the division |
| 21:45:05 | bertrik | I think it's not a big deal, just the difference between lsr or asr in assembly I think |
| 21:45:12 | bertrik | amiconn, ah ok |
| 21:46:00 | amiconn | E.g. (-1)/2 yields 0, while (-1)>>1 yields -1 |
| 21:47:14 | amiconn | bertrik: It's not. For signed types, gcc does an asr followed by some extra instructions to correct the error I just illustrated |
| 21:47:58 | funman | hm I thought ogg decoding was more stable than mp3 but I was proved wrong |
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| 21:52:36 | kugel | amiconn: can you give me a hint? |
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| 21:54:11 | kugel | amiconn: I swapped some positions and now I get a reasonable binsize |
| 21:54:34 | kugel | But of course I have no idea whether I've done it correctly |
| 21:54:35 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 21:55:25 | kugel | ram usage is still insane |
| 21:56:15 | amiconn | funman: Btw, there's some optimisation potential in the Clip's greylib code |
| 21:56:32 | kugel | does it look good? http://pastebin.ca/1271385 |
| 21:56:59 | amiconn | In the asm, I mean. Since we know that only bit 0..3 and 12..15 are connected, we don't need to duplicate the low byte if we set the correct bits from the beginning |
| 21:57:31 | funman | right |
| 21:57:31 | amiconn | The output data is composed bitwise anyway |
| 21:57:37 | funman | to save 1 instruction? |
| 21:57:58 | amiconn | Yea, why not? It's a trivial optimisation |
| 21:58:55 | funman | of course |
| 21:59:32 | amiconn | 1 instruction per 8 pixels, that makes 1K instructions per frame, or about 80000 instructions per second |
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| 22:00:29 | draft | i get this kinda error message when copying from WinXP to iPod (rockbox) draft/error.png">http://ihku.org/~draft/error.png |
| 22:01:12 | * | gevaerts doesn't understand what he's doing wrong with his multidriver code |
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| 22:07:09 | draft | gevaerts: is it hard to change iPod Mini's drive? |
| 22:07:13 | draft | to compact flash? |
| 22:07:19 | draft | is there any tutorial? |
| 22:07:24 | gevaerts | draft: it's not very hard |
| 22:08:08 | draft | gevaerts: any tutorials? |
| 22:08:09 | gevaerts | draft: have a look at http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPod/iPod-Mini/Hard-Drive/96/6/ |
| 22:08:27 | kugel | damnit |
| 22:08:35 | shotofadds | gevaerts: I get the same behaviour with SVN + #if 1 (r19276).. |
| 22:08:46 | kugel | I always forget to select patch instead of bug |
| 22:09:05 | kugel | and the category when adding a task |
| 22:09:10 | gevaerts | funman: Compactflash cards have the same connector as the mini hard drive. The only thing you need to do is add some cardboard or similar to increase the thickness a bit (CF cards are thinner) |
| 22:09:18 | kugel | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9593 please have a look |
| 22:09:25 | gevaerts | draft: that last one was for you... |
| 22:09:36 | draft | gevaerts: http://www.jimmspc-store.fi/tuote/ACFC004GZZZZZ |
| 22:09:40 | draft | is this ok card? |
| 22:09:43 | gevaerts | shotofadds: weird. It works fine here |
| 22:10:32 | gevaerts | draft: people have used A-Data cards for this before, although they usually use bigger ones |
| 22:10:42 | * | bertrik forgets to read beyond 1 line of IRC talk ;) |
| 22:11:35 | shotofadds | gevaerts: it can't be stopping all threads, since the backlight timeout (and wakeup) still works in USB mode.. |
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| 22:12:54 | kugel | shotofadds: still happy with fading on the d2? :) |
| 22:13:05 | gevaerts | shotofadds: it doesn't actually stop them, but the threads (or actually queue handlers) have to reply with a SYS_USB_CONNECTED_ACK message. They then can't read the filesystem until they get a SYS_USB_DISCONNECTED message |
| 22:13:21 | shotofadds | ah, ok. shows how much I know ;) |
| 22:13:33 | shotofadds | kugel: yeah, it's about the only thing that works reliably! |
| 22:13:40 | kugel | hehe |
| 22:14:06 | * | gevaerts likes the automatic "reset settings on boot" feature on the D2 ;) |
| 22:16:42 | domonoky | funman: strange, if i enable the i2sout_mclock via CGU_AUDIO, i get those shutdowns, withouth m_clock it doesnt shutdown, but ofcourse no sound ..:-/ |
| 22:17:26 | gevaerts | shotofadds: can you try gevaerts/rockbox-d2usb.zip?">http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/rockbox-d2usb.zip? That one works here |
| 22:17:38 | funman | can you see how much time the dma callback is called before shutdown? |
| 22:17:47 | funman | perhaps not aligned source memory ? |
| 22:18:15 | domonoky | it seems to shutdown even before pcm_play_dma_start() is called :-/ |
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| 22:19:37 | funman | well something is definitely wrong, I see reboots, data aborts, undef instructions, deadlocks without messages.. |
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| 22:20:15 | funman | you're designed to debug that because you can reproduce it :-) |
| 22:20:57 | bertrik | domonoky, I enabled battery readout some time about, maybe this has some kind of effect on your m200 ? |
| 22:21:46 | bertrik | about->ago |
| 22:21:47 | domonoky | bertrik: clean svn works.. this shutdowns have something todo with the new code.. |
| 22:22:31 | funman | I see a undef instruction while playing wav |
| 22:22:31 | Unhelpful | hrm, "actual" size is much, much, larger than "binary" size with recorder... is this a compressed image thing, and should i be using "actual" size? |
| 22:22:48 | domonoky | and battery readout seems to work on m200v4, just not calibrated. |
| 22:23:03 | funman | the instruction pointer points just one instruction after the last word of wav.codec (and the alst part is the bss and "abs" so it shouldn't have been executed) |
| 22:24:05 | kugel | Unhelpful: which target? Some targets use the mi4 file format, which needs 512byte padding |
| 22:24:28 | gevaerts | kugel: recorder |
| 22:24:51 | amiconn | Unhelpful: Yes, recorder firmware is compressed |
| 22:25:16 | kugel | oh, I read binsize is larger than actual size |
| 22:25:45 | funman | abs = absolute symbols (defined in crt0.S and linker script it seems) |
| 22:26:34 | amiconn | This is necessary to get around the archos loader limit (for recorders that can't be flashed, the user doesn't want to flash, or of course even for first-time installation) |
| 22:28:38 | kugel | \o/ I broke the bootloader fuze buttons |
| 22:28:39 | Unhelpful | i'm still trying to reduce the new-bmp-reader footprint. it's going... ok :/ |
| 22:29:35 | amiconn | If you want to compare firmware files sizes without checking the .txt, build for fmrecorder, recorder v2 or one of the Ondios. |
| 22:30:27 | amiconn | Those firmware files are uncompressed, as they don't need to be. Archos loader limit is 400KB on those compared to 200KB on recorder v1 (and player) |
| 22:30:38 | shotofadds | gevaerts: that version has the same behaviour (not ready in linux, panic in windows xp) :-( |
| 22:31:07 | kugel | bertrik: while you're at editing app.lds, can you have a look regarding the binsize? the .bss needs to be after .iram |
| 22:31:13 | Unhelpful | amiconn: hrm, but the RAM size from the .txt is significant as well, isn't it? |
| 22:31:21 | gevaerts | shotofadds: really weird. Have you recently reformatted the filesystem? |
| 22:31:37 | shotofadds | no, not for a long time |
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| 22:32:07 | gevaerts | It sometimes makes a difference here (this is on an 8GB D2) |
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| 22:32:53 | * | pixelma is late to the party but congratulates anyways :) |
| 22:33:11 | kugel | who's the button thread expert here? |
| 22:33:49 | kugel | I tracked down the fuze's button problems to button_init() now |
| 22:34:22 | kugel | that one isn't called in the bootloader where the buttons work. With the button thread in the main binary the buttons don't work anymore |
| 22:34:38 | kugel | if I add button_init in the bootloader, they don't work there anymore |
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| 22:40:06 | shotofadds | gevaerts: I can give formatting a try, but not right now. Out of time tonight I'm afraid :/ |
| 22:41:03 | gevaerts | shotofadds: ok. I'm not going to do anything anymore today either anyway |
| 22:44:10 | kugel | Maybe the tick task is too fast, so that our gpio gets confused |
| 22:44:35 | kugel | or at least the dbop afsel switching |
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| 22:47:00 | shotofadds | gevaerts: seems I can use dd quite reliably in Windows, so it'll be useful even with the current problems. I'll play some more tomorrow! |
| 22:47:32 | * | gevaerts doesn't understand at all... |
| 22:48:43 | * | shotofadds is rather confused too about why dd would work but explorer hangs.. but thats windows for you. night all |
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| 22:55:45 | kugel | domonoky: the button thread is causing problems on my fuze |
| 22:56:21 | amiconn | Button thread? There should be no such thing... |
| 22:57:00 | kugel | well, tick task |
| 22:57:06 | amiconn | The button driver uses a tick task, and an isr on some targets |
| 22:58:07 | kugel | which targets use an isr? |
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| 22:58:18 | kugel | I think the tick task isn't going to work for the fuze |
| 22:58:33 | amiconn | Tick tasks obviously run in isr context too, so you need to be careful |
| 22:58:41 | amiconn | Why not? |
| 22:59:10 | amiconn | The tick task is used on all targets, in order to have a stable time base (for button repeat etc) |
| 22:59:45 | kugel | don't know. using it causes the read problems. the bootloader doesn't use the tisk task and the buttons run fine |
| 22:59:47 | * | domonoky hears "girls,girls,girls" on his m200v4 !! :-) |
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| 23:00:00 | kugel | then it has to work, I suppose |
| 23:00:06 | domonoky | svn-bootloader + patched build was the key ! .. |
| 23:00:15 | amiconn | Some targets use (part of) the button reading in an isr, avoiding polling this way. For a wheel, using an isr is practically mandatory in order not to miss steps |
| 23:00:46 | kugel | the wheel isn't found yet, so I don't mess with it |
| 23:01:08 | kugel | I'm just trying to get the 4 directional buttons, select and power to work togetjer |
| 23:02:52 | kugel | amiconn: I see, I need to pay more attention on interupts. |
| 23:03:07 | kugel | I never worked with interrupts, I doubt I can do it without help/hints |
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| 23:13:21 | Unhelpful | hrm. down to 296B gain on recorderv2 |
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| 23:26:48 | kugel | amiconn: Can you help me a bit with the isr? I enabled interrupts for my GPIO ports |
| 23:26:59 | kugel | in button_init_device |
| 23:27:23 | kugel | Now I need to request an interrupt in button_read_device, correct? |
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| 23:48:40 | kugel | JdGordon: ping |
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| 23:50:16 | kugel | saratoga, JdGordon: (for the logs) We need to mess with interrupts to get the button work. I fount out, that the buttons aren't detectable using the button tick task without interrupts (i.e. using the tick task in the bootloader breaks the buttons there as well) |
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