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| 00:15:43 | PRINCESS_FLUFF | Anyone knows if the Sansa E series support 16 gb microSD cards? |
| 00:15:51 | PRINCESS_FLUFF | with rockbox |
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| 00:16:52 | krazykit | PRINCESS_FLUFF, yes, but you won't be able to access it with the OF, so you'd need a seperate microSDHC adapter |
| 00:17:43 | PRINCESS_FLUFF | Not sure what you mean with OF... But I use a 8gb card, so 16gb will work the same way? |
| 00:17:58 | PRINCESS_FLUFF | Oh, I have an USB microSD reader for transfering files to it |
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| 00:18:45 | LambdaCalculus37 | PRINCESS_FLUFF: OF... Original Firmware (i.e. what comes on the DAP when it comes from the factory. |
| 00:18:46 | LambdaCalculus37 | ) |
| 00:18:52 | n1s | OF == Original Firmware which we use for usb |
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| 00:19:27 | PRINCESS_FLUFF | Okay |
| 00:19:58 | PRINCESS_FLUFF | Do you guys know what are high capacity mp3 player (hd based is fine) which either work with rockbox, or by default allow you to simply browse through a file system like in windows? |
| 00:20:25 | PRINCESS_FLUFF | That's my main reason for using Rockbox now, I dont wanna mess with any music library things, I just wanna drag and drop my mp3 windows folder which is already organized the way I want it |
| 00:20:53 | krazykit | well, i put a 120GB drive into my gigabeat f40 :) |
| 00:20:57 | MTee | linuxstb : I've gone through the rm parser of yours |
| 00:21:33 | PRINCESS_FLUFF | I bought a flash based player so it wouldn't break when I run but the size limit is annoying |
| 00:21:45 | stripwax | PRINCESS_FLUFF: how much capacity do you need? ipod video 80GB works fine with rockbox |
| 00:21:53 | BigBambi | PRINCESS_FLUFF: We don't really care about the OF here |
| 00:22:21 | PRINCESS_FLUFF | I'm stuck at 16 gb, so 60 gb and up sounds enough |
| 00:22:36 | MTee | linuxstb : as to what to do next, I should figure the buffer size needed, fill it and then send it to its decoder, am I correct ? |
| 00:22:39 | PRINCESS_FLUFF | Any suggestions other than iPod btw? |
| 00:22:42 | BigBambi | F60 then |
| 00:22:47 | PRINCESS_FLUFF | That's gigabeat uh |
| 00:22:53 | BigBambi | gigbeat F (or X) |
| 00:23:01 | PRINCESS_FLUFF | Okay thank you |
| 00:23:12 | PRINCESS_FLUFF | Wow, 50$ for the 60g on Ebay |
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| 00:27:00 | MTee | BigBambi : Could you help me out please ? I'm trying to figure out how to complete a rm demuxer |
| 00:27:43 | MTee | based on the parser linuxstb wrote |
| 00:28:25 | PRINCESS_FLUFF | Anyone knows how strong the chess AI is in the plugin that comes with Rockbox? I always lose |
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| 00:30:53 | n1s | stronger than you then :P |
| 00:31:22 | BigBambi | MTee: Why do you think I can help? |
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| 00:32:17 | MTee | BigBambi : I asked if you 'could' :) |
| 00:32:19 | MTee | amd |
| 00:32:54 | BigBambi | MTee: Please don't ping random people to ask them |
| 00:33:12 | BigBambi | MTee: Can you help me develop a new grand unified theory? |
| 00:33:22 | BigBambi | MTee: Just ask your question and wait |
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| 00:33:55 | n1s | also the more specific the question is, the better |
| 00:34:13 | MTee | I'm sorry, I didn't mean to trouble anyone. |
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| 01:03:10 | HTCdemon | uhh....interesting thing ( lso about mod ) |
| 01:03:26 | HTCdemon | i was playing a mod file.... and it suddenly stopped playing :S |
| 01:03:42 | HTCdemon | tried playing another file ( mp3 ) and that didnt work either |
| 01:04:02 | HTCdemon | also tried playing ogg and such after the mod stopped playing and none of them would play |
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| 01:15:21 | * | mcuelenaere wonders whether Rockbox could use the Linux kernel __initdata principal to get some extra audio buffer.. |
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| 01:28:28 | kram | hello, does anyone know if rockbox *could* run on an ARM like STM32F103? question is really that it has no external interface for ram. I have one of these on a dev board and ram is all it is missing :( |
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| 01:31:51 | PaulJam | JdGordon: with the last version of the playback rework patch, is the problem with the garbled id3 info supposed to be solved or does this still happen sometimes? i haven't seen it, but i had some lines of garbage in my scrobbler.log and was wondering if this could be related. |
| 01:32:22 | JdGordon | i was hoping it was fixed... probabl is related |
| 01:33:14 | mcuelenaere | kram: does it have any RAM on the CPU itself? (IRAM?) |
| 01:33:31 | PaulJam | btw, i found another issue. gather runtime doesn't seem to work with the patch. |
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| 01:34:49 | kram | it has 20k sram, 128k flash |
| 01:35:12 | mcuelenaere | I know there are targets which are low on RAM, but I'm not sure how low |
| 01:35:18 | mcuelenaere | I guess 20k is too low though |
| 01:36:09 | kram | i was wondering if I could use spare I/o's to connect some kond of serial interface ram or controler, if something like that exists.. |
| 01:36:53 | mcuelenaere | I wouldn't know.. |
| 01:38:00 | mcuelenaere | http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20080907#23:46:59 seems to say an old version of Rockbox worked with 256KB of RAM |
| 01:40:10 | kram | thanks :) |
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| 01:41:08 | mcuelenaere | kram: can you run code directly off the flash? |
| 01:41:17 | mcuelenaere | something like XIP |
| 01:43:16 | kram | I think so, XIP? |
| 01:43:38 | mcuelenaere | eXecute In Place |
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| 02:05:18 | webguest99 | zomg |
| 02:05:23 | webguest99 | So many users! |
| 02:05:33 | webguest99 | I wasn't expecing this. |
| 02:05:36 | webguest99 | .op |
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| 02:05:40 | webguest99 | aww man |
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| 02:05:58 | webguest99 | alright; quick question guys: |
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| 02:06:17 | webguest99 | anyone know where I can locate themes for my e200 sansa? |
| 02:06:30 | webguest99 | it's actually an e260 i think |
| 02:06:39 | Llorean | Rockbox themes are in the Rockbox wiki. |
| 02:06:55 | HTCdemon | right |
| 02:07:02 | webguest99 | thank you very much! |
| 02:07:05 | HTCdemon | i use the blacknblue theme |
| 02:07:10 | HTCdemon | very very nice |
| 02:07:16 | HTCdemon | compliments the device |
| 02:07:18 | HTCdemon | :) |
| 02:08:13 | webguest99 | darn :( |
| 02:08:17 | webguest99 | I can't seem to find any. |
| 02:08:18 | webguest99 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200Port |
| 02:08:51 | Llorean | webguest99: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxExtras |
| 02:09:00 | Llorean | From the "Extras" link in the "Downloads" section on every page. |
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| 02:10:59 | webguest99 | ah, wonderful. |
| 02:11:06 | webguest99 | Thank you very much for your help |
| 02:11:16 | webguest99 | nice to see a responsive chat :D |
| 02:11:31 | webguest99 | I'm the chat owner of a gpt site and no one ever chats there. |
| 02:11:45 | webguest99 | hmm.... |
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| 02:11:52 | uber1337h4xx0r | sweet |
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| 02:12:10 | lostlogic | can anyone talk to me about the status of actually implementing control through the ipod accessory protocol is? |
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| 02:12:20 | Llorean | uber1337h4xx0r: This channel does have some guidelines. Specifically, it's not for social or off-topic chat. |
| 02:12:37 | Llorean | lostlogic: Accessories already can in a limited manner control Rockbox (skip tracks, etc) I believe. |
| 02:13:17 | HTCdemon | wish that for E260 D: |
| 02:13:19 | lostlogic | ah, will fiddle further −− just got my onkyo dock installed, can see the IAP codes change in the debug screen, but no action yet |
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| 02:14:13 | uber1337h4xx0r | I love that black/blue theme |
| 02:14:19 | uber1337h4xx0r | looks rather beautiful |
| 02:14:30 | HTCdemon | hehe |
| 02:14:31 | HTCdemon | yea |
| 02:14:33 | uber1337h4xx0r | btw, in your opinion, compared to the nano, how would my e260 rank? |
| 02:14:37 | HTCdemon | it flows quite well |
| 02:14:40 | uber1337h4xx0r | worst? better? same? |
| 02:14:44 | HTCdemon | personally? |
| 02:14:50 | uber1337h4xx0r | yup |
| 02:14:59 | HTCdemon | i like the E260..... |
| 02:15:02 | uber1337h4xx0r | i think the only "pro" nano has is its width |
| 02:15:06 | uber1337h4xx0r | alright, sounds great. |
| 02:15:10 | HTCdemon | mainly because of the additional features over a nane |
| 02:15:13 | uber1337h4xx0r | I got mine from woot for about $40 :D |
| 02:15:18 | HTCdemon | same |
| 02:15:20 | HTCdemon | :P |
| 02:15:23 | HTCdemon | hey wait |
| 02:15:26 | uber1337h4xx0r | awesome |
| 02:15:27 | Llorean | Guys, please keep this to Rockbox discussion. |
| 02:15:28 | HTCdemon | i think i saw your post on woot? |
| 02:15:33 | HTCdemon | LLorean, sorry |
| 02:15:38 | uber1337h4xx0r | I didn't post |
| 02:15:41 | uber1337h4xx0r | Oh, right |
| 02:15:44 | uber1337h4xx0r | rockbox is awesome |
| 02:16:00 | HTCdemon | on other discussion, is it normal for mod codec to break all other codecs? |
| 02:16:12 | Llorean | lostlogic: If I understand correctly there's a simple and advanced protocol, so it may be an issue of which of those it uses. |
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| 02:16:44 | * | uber1337h4xx0r doesn't follow what the others are talking about. So he'll nod agreeingly to make sure he doesn't seem like a newbie. |
| 02:17:04 | HTCdemon | ( after i played a .mod it just stopped playing randomly and any other file i would try to load would not give audio out or play :S ) |
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| 02:17:43 | Llorean | HTCdemon: With a current build? |
| 02:17:48 | HTCdemon | yea |
| 02:17:51 | lostlogic | Llorean: nope, you were right −− is working now, awesome. |
| 02:18:08 | HTCdemon | 19868 |
| 02:18:21 | Llorean | HTCdemon: You should probably file a bug report, then. |
| 02:18:46 | HTCdemon | dont know how xD |
| 02:19:13 | Llorean | The "bugs" link on the website. |
| 02:19:23 | HTCdemon | do i have to create a account? |
| 02:19:37 | cool_walking_ | yes |
| 02:19:43 | HTCdemon | lol |
| 02:19:48 | HTCdemon | *sigh* |
| 02:20:39 | Llorean | HTCdemon: The idea is that it provides a means for two way communication for further questions about issues. |
| 02:20:52 | Llorean | It's more or less essential, we really don't think it's too much to ask. |
| 02:21:34 | HTCdemon | heh |
| 02:21:44 | HTCdemon | now that i can understand :) |
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| 05:14:52 | d34df00d | Hi! |
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| 05:15:02 | d34df00d | I've got a problem with iPod 80 GB and Rockbox. |
| 05:15:38 | d34df00d | Tried to install it both using the rbutil and the guide — in both cases I end up with message: |
| 05:15:45 | scorche | which ipod do you have? |
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| 05:16:41 | d34df00d | http://rafb.net/p/S2piYH50.html |
| 05:16:46 | d34df00d | Video 5.5G 80 GB. |
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| 05:18:55 | d34df00d | Needed to reformat the second HD partition, it was in Mac's format. Reformatted like this: mkfs.vfat -F 32 -v /dev/sdh2 |
| 05:19:05 | d34df00d | /dev/sdh* — the iPod. |
| 05:20:00 | scorche | there is more needed in that conversion...see the IpodManualRestore wiki page or something like that...it should have been referenced in the manual |
| 05:22:32 | d34df00d | scorche: thanks, there's a page with exactly this title. I'll try to follow it. |
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| 05:40:43 | welty | I "svn co"-ed the source, configured for c200v2, and found I had to edit firmware/target/arm/as3525/fmradio-i2c-as3525.c androckbox/apps/plugins/pacbox/pacbox.h to hack in sections for the c200v2 |
| 05:41:27 | welty | After this it did compile without problems ... anyone else have this problem (working on the svn trunk) |
| 05:42:46 | welty | looks like I have revision 19869 |
| 05:43:47 | HTCdemon | hmmm |
| 05:43:51 | HTCdemon | this is also new :S |
| 05:44:15 | HTCdemon | i know that in earlier builds ( 3.1 ) i could run a 320 kbps mp3 with the firedemo perfectly |
| 05:44:43 | HTCdemon | but in the current build it chops in and out and firedemo is slow |
| 05:44:48 | HTCdemon | :/ |
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| 06:03:06 | cellofellow | what, exactly, is "car adapter mode"? |
| 06:04:35 | JdGordon | i think its supposed to pause the music when it loses power in the charger |
| 06:05:07 | JdGordon | so that in combination with setting the idle shutdown and the start screen to the WPS makes a very simple car radio |
| 06:05:22 | * | JdGordon points cellofellow to the manual |
| 06:05:52 | cellofellow | ok |
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| 06:07:26 | psycho_maniac | anybody have a gigabeat with rockbox on it? i think i have a problem or im just dumb and cant figure it out |
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| 06:11:14 | psycho_maniac | i cannot get a-b repeat to work for some reason |
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| 06:11:50 | JdGordon | it may not be setup properly yet... check the keymaps |
| 06:11:58 | AlexBB | hello? |
| 06:12:51 | AlexBB | hey i just installed rockbox but my ipod keeps restarting |
| 06:13:10 | JdGordon | did you unzip rockbox.zip onto it? |
| 06:13:21 | AlexBB | more than once a minute... its doesnt do this in the normal ipod firmware |
| 06:13:29 | AlexBB | yes. |
| 06:13:36 | JdGordon | is it giving an error? |
| 06:13:40 | AlexBB | nope |
| 06:13:43 | AlexBB | just resets |
| 06:13:44 | JdGordon | is it plugged into usb when it does this? |
| 06:13:54 | AlexBB | both |
| 06:14:02 | AlexBB | unplugged and plugged in |
| 06:14:15 | psycho_maniac | JdGorden: how do i check keymaps? |
| 06:14:33 | JdGordon | apps/keymaps/keymap-<target>.c |
| 06:14:54 | psycho_maniac | uhh ok then. but shouldnt it already work when i install rockbox on my player? |
| 06:14:58 | JdGordon | AlexBB: hmm, im not sure |
| 06:15:03 | AlexBB | like i can see the new rockbox menus and stuff |
| 06:15:09 | AlexBB | i even got a theme on it |
| 06:15:17 | JdGordon | so when does it reboott? |
| 06:15:19 | AlexBB | but it keeps resetting |
| 06:15:58 | AlexBB | only on rockbox |
| 06:16:04 | JdGordon | where in rockbox? |
| 06:16:09 | AlexBB | not on the normal ipod firmware |
| 06:16:12 | JdGordon | what are you doing to make it reset? |
| 06:16:17 | AlexBB | just the mainmenu |
| 06:16:21 | AlexBB | nothing:S:S |
| 06:16:33 | AlexBB | im watching in reset over and over |
| 06:16:37 | AlexBB | it* |
| 06:17:11 | psycho_maniac | i remember one of my players did that i ended up having to like uninstall rockbox run the regular os for awhile then did a reisntall and it worked. |
| 06:17:29 | AlexBB | it was charged b4 its eating up the battery |
| 06:17:31 | AlexBB | yea? |
| 06:17:54 | AlexBB | ill let it recharge in apple mode overnight see what happens |
| 06:18:02 | AlexBB | then try uninstall |
| 06:18:22 | AlexBB | ill come back if it still doesnt work :S |
| 06:18:25 | AlexBB | thanks guys |
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| 06:22:52 | psycho_maniac | so what would be a reason why a-b repeat not working? |
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| 07:15:38 | nhugg | does anyone have any idea when rockbox will be available for ipod classic? |
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| 07:16:53 | nhugg | will rockbox be available for ipod classic soon? |
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| 08:25:16 | GodEater_ | morning all |
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| 08:34:15 | * | Unhelpful sees that pictureflow is (c) Nico_P, a Jonas Hurrelmann (who is not in IrcNicks)... Nico, when you get a chance, how much do you know about its renderer? because i'm tempted to rewrite much of it, primarily to have something that i can understand well enough to be able to optimize/bugfix it |
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| 08:37:14 | B4gder | Unhelpful: I think that second guy was the original author. Nico_P then expanded and continued his work |
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| 08:38:23 | Unhelpful | B4gder: well, there's a 3rd name credited with the Qt version... so Jonas perhaps did the rockbox port, i guess? |
| 08:38:32 | B4gder | I think so |
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| 08:40:19 | Unhelpful | hrm, well, then, i guess it depends on whether this business with rays[] etc comes from Ariya, Jonas, or Nico. i'll have to try to figure out if it's an optimization of "how i would do this"... because it seems to work, but i found things that don't make much sense while trying to sort out pixelma's divide-by-zero report |
| 08:44:57 | Unhelpful | the "distance" that is stored in each slide appears to be centered on the plane in which pixels map 1-to-1 with screen pixels, but then that is added to LCD_HEIGHT, and other values with cryptic names are divided by it... |
| 08:45:39 | Unhelpful | anyway, the bug will be triggered on any target where LCD_HEIGHT is a multiple of five less than 100, and possibly others if the user messes around with the zoom setting |
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| 09:16:54 | n1s | bazz: browse to a dir in the file browser, long click on it and chose "Set as recording dir" |
| 09:17:52 | bazz | ahh |
| 09:18:07 | bazz | n1s: thanks |
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| 09:31:44 | JdGordon | kugel: i got a patch to fix up the wps statusbar stuff if you wanna try it out with your customvp work? |
| 09:32:06 | JdGordon | although, ill prob commit it tonight anyway, so testing would get good |
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| 09:45:28 | JdGordon_ | kugel: http://pastebin.com/df7a5eb8 |
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| 10:00:26 | kugel | JdGordon: sure, later |
| 10:00:51 | kugel | no time now, sorry |
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| 10:24:54 | pixelma | welty: I just read logs a bit and you said you had to edit pacbox.h to get Rockbox compiling for a c200v2. Pacbox is excluded from the c200 builds (screensize issue) and should be on the v2 too |
| 10:25:13 | pixelma | apps/plugins/SUBDIRS excludes it for SANSA_C200, so I wonder why that doesn't seem to work for the v2 |
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| 10:28:52 | JdGordon | pixelma: hey, you're a much better tester than me.. mind trying out that pastebin from about 45min ago and see if i broke anything? |
| 10:29:50 | linuxstb | pixelma: Hmm, I think that should exclude targets based on LCD size - IIRC, that's the limitation on C200. The alternative would be to add SANSA_C200V2 |
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| 10:31:50 | pixelma | linuxstb: I think someone started listing targets there because of the 160x128 greyscale screens, pacbox works on some (related to drawing) not all |
| 10:32:30 | pixelma | I agree that screen size could be nicer but needs a solution for this |
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| 10:33:58 | pixelma | JdGordon: is this patch related to the custom VP work or independent (and what's it good for, what needs testing)? |
| 10:34:55 | linuxstb | Looking at pacbox again, the #ifs could be quite complicated to exclude the correctly... But I think some more targets could be added quite easily - e.g. greyscale ipods, including the Mini (with a little cropping) |
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| 10:36:16 | JdGordon | pixelma: sorry... reworks the statusbar handling in the wps... so as usual, if it works you shouldnt notice any different |
| 10:36:52 | JdGordon | there is a very short gap where the bar might be clear before being redrawn which i think is annoying but i havnt been able to trace yet |
| 10:37:00 | JdGordon | but im hoping its not big enough to hold this back |
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| 10:48:20 | pixelma | linuxstb: but a "LCD_HEIGHT > 80" should work instead of "!defined SANSAC200", I guess. How much "squeezing" of the pacbox screen do you think is possible (thinking of the Iadio remote/M3)? |
| 10:48:35 | pixelma | Iaudio too |
| 10:50:11 | linuxstb | 112x128 is the smallest so far - that scales the 224x288 pacman screen to 112x144 and then crops. I don't think we can go any further. |
| 10:50:50 | pixelma | aha, Iaudio remote is 128x96 |
| 10:52:44 | pixelma | so perhaps a LCD_HEIGHT >= 112 then to eclude pacbox for c200 and any similar small colour screen target that might come |
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| 10:54:57 | pixelma | JdGordon: ok, will test later today if I don't forget. |
| 10:55:05 | linuxstb | It's not quite that simple - if the height is 112, the width needs to be >=144 (with the existing code). |
| 10:55:50 | linuxstb | If you look at pacbox_lcd.c, you can see all the #ifs in the lcd rendering function. |
| 10:56:14 | linuxstb | For greyscale it only supports vertical packing - hence the reason it doesn't work on greyscale ipods. |
| 10:56:26 | pixelma | hmm, right. I already missed LCD_WIDTH there at all because of portrait screens |
| 10:56:37 | linuxstb | Yes, sometimes pacbox rotates... |
| 10:57:25 | * | linuxstb wonders how the greyscale lib would look, and what the speed impact would be |
| 10:58:18 | pixelma | I find pacbox quite small already on my M5 btw. |
| 10:58:53 | pixelma | the highscore screen is impossible to read |
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| 11:00:14 | pixelma | not true, was worse in my memory than it actually is... but it's still not easy to read |
| 11:00:20 | linuxstb | If somebody cared enough, the font could be replaced with one that scales better on such targets (including the sprites for the pacman/ghosts/fruit etc)... I think the Mame port in IPL does that, at least for the sprites. |
| 11:00:33 | linuxstb | (by patching the ROMs) |
| 11:03:08 | * | pixelma misses the status bar in plugins which use a simple menu... |
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| 11:09:46 | pixelma | linuxstb: but would excluding the c200 based on LCD_HEIGHT (requirement larger than 80) still be the nicer solution? |
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| 11:11:19 | pixelma | for now |
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| 11:21:47 | linuxstb | pixelma: Yes, I think so. |
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| 11:48:29 | JdGordon | pixelma: which plugins in particular? |
| 11:48:52 | pixelma | pacbox only |
| 11:49:14 | pixelma | a you mean the statusbar |
| 11:49:23 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 11:49:55 | pixelma | well I noticed it when trying pacbox and am used to having the status bar. I guess there are others |
| 11:50:30 | JdGordon | it might not be so simple to fix... |
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| 13:55:37 | htrejh | hi |
| 13:56:02 | htrejh | i have a sansa c200 and nothing is working at all anymore, so i tried to follow the faq and use e200tool, but i have this error: |
| 13:56:02 | htrejh | Searching for device 6666:e200 ... found! |
| 13:56:02 | htrejh | Control message (-108, Cannot send after transport endpoint shutdown) |
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| 13:56:21 | htrejh | can someone help me? (sorry) |
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| 14:20:53 | FarfromRefuge | hi everyone |
| 14:21:09 | welty | pixelma: Thanks for the tip about apps/plugins/SUBDIR excludes for SANSA_C200, that section of code will also need a "&& !defined(SANSA_C200V2) |
| 14:21:22 | FarfromRefuge | i have some questions about computing mp3 length. Can someone help me? |
| 14:22:17 | welty | Could you use Perl ? |
| 14:22:32 | pixelma | welty: no (see the discussion with linuxstb that followed). I will commit a fix later |
| 14:24:40 | pixelma | FarfromRefuge: is this Rockbox related? |
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| 14:27:12 | welty | pixelma: gotcha. I'll hack in a define for now until a proper filtering based on screensize is worked out |
| 14:27:44 | FarfromRefuge | yes |
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| 14:28:04 | FarfromRefuge | i would like to find in the rockbox code where the mp3 duration is computed |
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| 15:09:29 | htrejh | hi |
| 15:10:03 | htrejh | my sansa c200 isn't working at all aynmore, what can i do to restore it and be able to install rockbox? |
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| 15:13:09 | htrejh | any idea? it's c240 btw :p |
| 15:14:20 | Zagor | you can start with describing the problem |
| 15:14:30 | LambdaCalculus37 | And being patient until someone can answer you. |
| 15:14:50 | htrejh | well there's not much to say |
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| 15:15:12 | htrejh | when i start the unit, the buttons lights are blue but the screen is black |
| 15:15:36 | htrejh | and when i look with "lsusb" on linux, i can see Sansa c200... in recovery mode |
| 15:15:59 | htrejh | tried to launch rockbox utility, but it says it must be in msc mode, but it is in msc mode! |
| 15:16:02 | htrejh | i'm stuck :( |
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| 15:17:34 | krazykit | htrejh, sounds like you're in manufacturing mode |
| 15:17:48 | htrejh | ok, what does it mean? |
| 15:17:54 | linuxstb | FarfromRefuge: See the function getsonglength() in apps/metadata/mp3.c |
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| 15:19:51 | krazykit | htrejh, i believe it means the bootloader is faulty. there's a recovery procedure detailed here http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200Unbrick , but i don't really know how to troubleshoot further. perhaps someone else does? |
| 15:20:30 | htrejh | thanks for reply, tried with e200tool, but it gave an error, will report, thanks for helping me |
| 15:21:49 | htrejh | i get this error: http://pastebin.be/16341 |
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| 15:32:19 | htrejh | what to do if that doesn't work? |
| 15:33:09 | krazykit | i'd try again :) |
| 15:33:25 | htrejh | lol |
| 15:34:18 | htrejh | :( :( :( |
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| 15:40:00 | htrejh | now it started, but there are errors on the sansa screen concerning an image file or smth |
| 15:40:47 | krazykit | htrejh, you'd want to recover the bootloader, then when in recovery mode (same page), restore the OF. make sure that works, then reinstall rockbox |
| 15:41:15 | htrejh | but now my sansa is miounted on my desktop btw |
| 15:41:24 | htrejh | named 16MB-FORMAT |
| 15:41:30 | krazykit | ah, that's recovery mode |
| 15:41:57 | krazykit | which the same page details. i have to run though |
| 15:42:15 | htrejh | simply copy the e200tool on it? |
| 15:42:27 | htrejh | thanx ;) |
| 15:49:28 | GodEater_ | htrejh: no - dont copy the e200tool on it - READ the page that krazykit linked you to |
| 15:50:03 | htrejh | no, but i copied the offical BIN file firmware, didnt work |
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| 15:52:34 | GodEater_ | which bit of the page says to copy a BIN file there ? |
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| 15:56:15 | htrejh | damn is bricked again :( |
| 15:56:35 | GodEater_ | what did you expect ? |
| 15:59:22 | ufoman | hi, I have such problem with RB 3.1: re-creating dynamic playlist hangs when language is set to Polish |
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| 15:59:43 | ufoman | same thing happens on latest build |
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| 16:00:08 | ufoman | my player is Nano 1st gen 4GB |
| 16:00:51 | n1s | ufoman: could you be more specific? |
| 16:01:49 | ufoman | hmm... database initialization is ok with Polish language set, if the playlist is already there it works without problems |
| 16:02:34 | ufoman | but when I go into library to select some other track, it asks me if I want to erase the playlist, I accept and then player hangs |
| 16:03:58 | ufoman | it works when language is set to English |
| 16:04:55 | n1s | does it only happen when using database or from the file browser too? |
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| 16:06:24 | ufoman | I tried only the library up to this moment because I'm listening to music uploaded to device by itunes |
| 16:06:32 | ufoman | wait a second |
| 16:08:50 | ufoman | could you tell me how to enable disk mode with the latest svn? 3.1 restarted into it... |
| 16:10:29 | n1s | uh, svn is supposed to do that too, but if it doesn't work you can start the OF when booting the player by toggling the hold switch after turning it on |
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| 16:14:25 | ufoman | same thing happens when I use the file browser |
| 16:16:44 | n1s | both with svn and 3.1? |
| 16:17:32 | ufoman | yup |
| 16:17:36 | ufoman | same thing |
| 16:18:06 | n1s | could you submit a bug to the tracker with as much details as possible? |
| 16:18:21 | ufoman | no problem |
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| 16:21:48 | ufoman | what category should it be in? language? |
| 16:22:17 | n1s | sure |
| 16:27:12 | ufoman | should I report it for 3.1 or svn version? |
| 16:27:22 | n1s | svn |
| 16:29:53 | ufoman | reported as FS #9842 |
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| 16:30:46 | n1s | ufoman: thanks |
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| 17:31:53 | htrejh | what can i do if updateing firmware was successfull but after it reboots the screen is still black? |
| 17:46:03 | evilnick | htrejh: Which model do you have? |
| 17:46:10 | htrejh | c250 |
| 17:46:42 | htrejh | or c240, but i tgink its c250, as i have fm |
| 17:46:51 | evilnick | So what steps have you done so far? Talk me through the whole process |
| 17:47:45 | htrejh | well now i've tried all steps |
| 17:48:14 | htrejh | and it always upgrades the firmware, restarts but is still black |
| 17:48:18 | htrejh | with light on |
| 17:48:28 | htrejh | and when i do 'lsusb' it says ... in recovery mode |
| 17:48:45 | evilnick | Aha, now we're getting somewhere |
| 17:48:49 | evilnick | What OS are you using? |
| 17:49:02 | htrejh | Linux (Ubuntu) |
| 17:49:41 | LambdaCalculus37 | Try the tool here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaC200Erase |
| 17:50:01 | evilnick | I was going to offer: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaC200Port#Recovery_Mode |
| 17:50:03 | htrejh | ow yeah, saw this note and it is already running know, :p |
| 17:50:08 | LambdaCalculus37 | Make sure you also have e200tool on hand as well; the wiki will point the way. |
| 17:50:14 | htrejh | already did that |
| 17:50:18 | htrejh | did preboot too |
| 17:50:27 | htrejh | but erasing is slow :p |
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| 17:50:47 | htrejh | but i think it didnt work becuz i tried to format it with ext3 or smth :p |
| 17:51:00 | htrejh | but cant remember, long time ago, just realised it didnt work now :p |
| 17:51:18 | evilnick | Why would you try to format it in a filesystem that isn't supported by either the OF or Rockbox?! |
| 17:51:25 | LambdaCalculus37 | The c200 should be formatted as FAT16 or FAT32. |
| 17:51:32 | LambdaCalculus37 | Now we found the problem! |
| 17:51:43 | htrejh | yeah but i made a mistake :p |
| 17:51:52 | LambdaCalculus37 | Now you have to fix that. |
| 17:52:03 | htrejh | 7785 KB left to format :p |
| 17:52:20 | htrejh | is that why the bootlader is upgraded but doesnt work? |
| 17:52:20 | LambdaCalculus37 | It's going to take some time, so go have a sandwich or something in the meantime. |
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| 17:52:30 | htrejh | will game a bit heh :p |
| 17:52:32 | htrejh | thanks for help |
| 17:52:48 | htrejh | btw are there rockbox screenshots on sansa c2** ? |
| 17:52:57 | evilnick | Check the manual |
| 17:54:14 | htrejh | are there themes? |
| 17:54:47 | htrejh | damn rockbox looks so nice :) hope it will work |
| 17:54:57 | htrejh | will rockbox ever work on ipod touch do u think? |
| 17:56:05 | evilnick | Probably not in the forseeable future. Although it's nigh-on impossible to give timeframes. The firmware is a lot more encrypted/signed than earlier iPod models (that goes for any model > iPod Video) |
| 17:56:07 | krazykit | it's impossible to say, since no one is working on it |
| 17:56:39 | htrejh | yeah ok :p |
| 17:56:50 | htrejh | do u think ipod toich will ever work on linux? |
| 17:56:57 | LambdaCalculus37 | That's off topic here. |
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| 17:57:04 | htrejh | if itunes would be working on wine it would be enough |
| 17:57:08 | htrejh | yeah ok , sorry |
| 17:57:50 | LambdaCalculus37 | The only really easy way to run Rockbox on the iPod Touch is to rewrite it as an app. However, no one has done that yet, and we don't know if anyone will. |
| 17:58:10 | LambdaCalculus37 | The iPod Touch firmware is a scaled down Mac OS X, which will make no sense to replace it. |
| 17:59:49 | htrejh | you can install itunes on linux maybe... |
| 17:59:56 | htrejh | but dont have itouch :p |
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| 18:00:07 | htrejh | would only buy it if it would work well on linux |
| 18:00:12 | htrejh | petition maybe :p |
| 18:00:38 | LambdaCalculus37 | Topic! |
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| 18:04:55 | htrejh | ok, so erase is done, and still dont work, must yo do recovery or preboot mode again? |
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| 18:08:58 | evilnick | htrejh: Please try to follow the instructions in the wiki - if you do and the procedure still doesn't work then report back and let us know when/where your player isn't acting as expected |
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| 18:10:32 | htrejh | ok |
| 18:10:47 | htrejh | but it doesnt work wit hall possible solutions from the wiki |
| 18:11:51 | evilnick | So what *exactly* have you tried? You really have to be almost over-specific as we can't tell what you've attempted or not. |
| 18:12:40 | rasher | http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1107133&cid=26639015 haha |
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| 18:14:28 | LambdaCalculus37 | htrejh: You have to tell us *exactly* what steps you're taking, *what* your Sansa is doing, and *what* your system is telling you. If you don't, we have no idea how to help you. |
| 18:14:49 | htrejh | but i already said everything |
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| 18:15:37 | evilnick | All we know is that you've used the erase tool, you then told us that "everything" on the Wiki page didn't work. |
| 18:15:52 | htrejh | yeah, what can i say more? |
| 18:16:11 | htrejh | except every time the player gets detected as: Bus 002 Device 019: ID 0781:0720 SanDisk Corp. Sansa C200 series in recovery mode |
| 18:16:23 | htrejh | even when simply connecting it normally |
| 18:17:06 | htrejh | the 3 modes had the same problem: when restarting the player, the screen is black and the light is blue |
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| 18:18:00 | htrejh | only the manufacturing mode says "Load image failed" after using the rom with e200tool |
| 18:18:22 | htrejh | but then it upgrades correctly but after restarting, same problem |
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| 18:22:20 | evilnick | htrejh: When you restart and hold |<< on boot, what happens? |
| 18:22:31 | evilnick | i.e. can you get into the OF |
| 18:22:46 | htrejh | what is of? |
| 18:23:09 | evilnick | Original Firmware |
| 18:23:19 | htrejh | do you mean when starting it or when plugging it in my usb port? |
| 18:23:44 | evilnick | Power it off completely, then power it on holding |<< and without plugging it into USB |
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| 18:25:35 | htrejh | black screen, lights on |
| 18:26:31 | evilnick | So it looks like it's in recovery mode still. Did you drop it recently? |
| 18:26:59 | htrejh | drop it? |
| 18:27:08 | htrejh | hm no |
| 18:27:26 | htrejh | but as i said before, i think i once tried to format it, ext3 i think :s |
| 18:27:36 | htrejh | but tried the erase bin |
| 18:27:42 | htrejh | it formatted... |
| 18:27:47 | htrejh | but same problem again and again |
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| 18:28:04 | gevaerts | What did you do *after* you used the erase tool? |
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| 18:30:28 | htrejh | i first tried to restart it normally |
| 18:30:29 | htrejh | didnt work |
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| 18:30:42 | gevaerts | good. That's as expected then |
| 18:30:46 | htrejh | forced it to shutdown and tried recovery again |
| 18:30:53 | evilnick | htrejh: It'd be helpful if you could list what you've tried; maybe like "I followed the Recovery Mode instructions from http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200Unbrick, but can't see the 16MB drive" |
| 18:31:18 | evilnick | That way we know what the expected outcome would be, and where the problem is coming from |
| 18:31:38 | htrejh | but it's simple, when following all modes it always works, but when retsrating it i allways see a black screen |
| 18:31:48 | gevaerts | After the erase tool, you need to go through the e200tool-based recovery, as explicitely stated on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaC200Erase |
| 18:31:53 | evilnick | Is Sansa C-model charging now in SVN? |
| 18:32:02 | gevaerts | What does "when following all modes" mean? |
| 18:32:25 | htrejh | i followed the wiki! |
| 18:32:37 | rasher | htrejh: If you did, it would have worked. |
| 18:32:38 | htrejh | recovery, manufacturing and preboot |
| 18:32:41 | gevaerts | the wiki is a big thing... What exactly did you do? |
| 18:32:49 | evilnick | That is NOT telling us what exactly you did! |
| 18:33:08 | htrejh | i did what the wiki said ^^ |
| 18:33:18 | gevaerts | OK. What did the wiki say? |
| 18:33:23 | htrejh | but after erasing, can it cause a problem to first have tried to start it normally? |
| 18:34:01 | gevaerts | It shouldn't |
| 18:34:25 | htrejh | recovery -> saw the 16MB drive, put the firmware, said it upgraded successfully, restarted sansa -> black screen, blue light |
| 18:34:28 | LambdaCalculus37 | evilnick: I think there was some work done with c200 charging; check the SVN logs. |
| 18:34:59 | htrejh | manufacturing -> same result |
| 18:34:59 | gevaerts | htrejh: which firmware files did you put on the 16MB drive? |
| 18:35:04 | * | gevaerts wants the exact filenames |
| 18:35:15 | htrejh | tried the one from the linked site |
| 18:35:17 | htrejh | ow ok |
| 18:35:42 | htrejh | its named firmware.mi4 |
| 18:35:57 | htrejh | found here: http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/mi4.html |
| 18:36:04 | kugel | htrejh: you need to put the bootloader as well |
| 18:36:34 | htrejh | ow :( |
| 18:36:40 | htrejh | the rom? |
| 18:36:46 | kugel | yea |
| 18:36:50 | htrejh | pribootLoader.rom ? |
| 18:36:53 | gevaerts | yes |
| 18:36:55 | kugel | no |
| 18:37:01 | htrejh | ok, will try thanks, wiki doesnt say it tough |
| 18:37:04 | htrejh | no? |
| 18:37:06 | gevaerts | kugel: c200, not e200 |
| 18:37:12 | kugel | oh, ok |
| 18:37:16 | htrejh | hm :( |
| 18:37:28 | kugel | then it's probably pribootloader.rom |
| 18:37:33 | gevaerts | htrejh: you need firmware.mi4 and pribootLoader.rom |
| 18:37:36 | kugel | (if gevaerts says it) |
| 18:37:53 | htrejh | yeah have them, but must i put both on the 16Mb partition? |
| 18:37:53 | evilnick | htrejh: It does. Under Restoring the bootloader: Copy the .mi4 file. Copy a bootloader .rom (or .btl in the case of the R series models) file which is compatible with your firmware file (see here) . |
| 18:38:04 | gevaerts | Both need to be the same version |
| 18:39:02 | htrejh | will retry thx |
| 18:39:08 | htrejh | even for erase |
| 18:39:13 | htrejh | ? |
| 18:39:23 | gevaerts | You probably don't need to erase again |
| 18:39:25 | LambdaCalculus37 | Even for erase. |
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| 18:39:35 | LambdaCalculus37 | But like gevaerts said, you don't need to erase again. |
| 18:40:09 | htrejh | btw, it sansa says: Lun0 locked |
| 18:40:13 | htrejh | LUN0 unlocked |
| 18:40:21 | gevaerts | That's normal |
| 18:40:29 | htrejh | yeaaaaaaaaaaaaah |
| 18:40:38 | htrejh | thanks guys ;) |
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| 18:41:22 | htrejh | works again, thank you very much ;) |
| 18:41:37 | gevaerts | Have fun :) |
| 18:41:45 | LambdaCalculus37 | Lesson learned: Read every last single word on the wiki and in the manual! |
| 18:41:45 | evilnick | \0/ |
| 18:41:59 | htrejh | damn didnt remember sansa was looking old school like that :p |
| 18:42:03 | htrejh | yeah ;) |
| 18:42:19 | htrejh | but the first time i did it, but i got a protocol error or smth xD |
| 18:42:30 | evilnick | And when seeking support, let us know exactly what you've tried otherwise we just go round in circles! |
| 18:42:55 | htrejh | yeah, will not happen again ;) |
| 18:43:05 | LambdaCalculus37 | htrejh: And also make an effort to speak in real English and not shorthand. This channel is visited and inhabited by a lot of non-native English speakers. |
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| 18:43:21 | LambdaCalculus37 | Speaking in shorthand makes it hard to translate. |
| 18:43:34 | htrejh | sorry, i try to do my best, but it's known french people suck in english :) |
| 18:43:41 | kubzior | so... can rockbox play sony atrac files (oma, omg; it's closed format and it isn't developing at the moment)? |
| 18:43:46 | htrejh | but i never heard of rockbox and the community seems huge :) |
| 18:43:51 | linuxstb | kubzior: No |
| 18:43:51 | htrejh | will make a blog post :) |
| 18:44:11 | kubzior | what a pity |
| 18:44:24 | kubzior | but rockbox will play oma files? |
| 18:44:31 | LambdaCalculus37 | kubzior: No. |
| 18:44:31 | saratoga | i think a lot of the atrac formats aren't reverse engineered |
| 18:44:44 | kubzior | erm, why? |
| 18:44:51 | LambdaCalculus37 | saratoga: IIRC ffmpeg has decoders for ATRAC; will check. |
| 18:45:05 | LambdaCalculus37 | kubzior: Because no one has written a codec for ATRAC files? |
| 18:45:24 | saratoga | it has decoders for atrac, but theres a lot of different atrac codecs out there |
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| 18:46:02 | domonoky | kubzior: two things are needed to get a specific format to play in rockbox. There need to be a opensource (fixedpoint) codec, and someone needs to port it to rockbox.. |
| 18:46:17 | * | evilnick is reminded of "The problem with WMA is that the existing open source WMA implementation is using floating point arithmetics, something that the CPU in the iriver can't deal with. We need to convert all calculations to fixed point, a rather tedious and complicated task. Someone with a clue needs to step forward and do this. The problem is that people with a clue don't use WMA." |
| 18:46:25 | kubzior | yep, I agree with you - atrac sucks |
| 18:46:46 | evilnick | Except with the extra hard work of there not being an open-source implementation floating point or not. AFAIK. |
| 18:46:53 | LambdaCalculus37 | kubzior: What's more, .omg and .oma are OpenMG files; these are ATRAC files infected by DRM. |
| 18:46:59 | gevaerts | domonoky: those two can be done in one go as well :) |
| 18:47:07 | LambdaCalculus37 | Rockbox will never, ever play DRM-infected files. |
| 18:47:21 | domonoky | gevaerts: yes, but much more unlikely :-) |
| 18:47:25 | kubzior | ^^" |
| 18:47:29 | gevaerts | domonoky: it happens... |
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| 18:48:13 | domonoky | gevaerts: do we have any codec, which was written specifically for rockbox ? |
| 18:48:25 | gevaerts | domonoky: ape IIRC |
| 18:48:26 | saratoga | ape, wma |
| 18:48:29 | saratoga | mostly wma anyway |
| 18:48:46 | LambdaCalculus37 | Everything else was brought over from other projects, right? |
| 18:49:01 | saratoga | lots of out parser code is homemade |
| 18:49:08 | domonoky | so kudos to the people who did this !! |
| 18:49:38 | saratoga | since its quite rare that codecs come with containers that are rockbox friendly |
| 18:49:43 | saratoga | or rather parsers |
| 18:50:15 | domonoky | yes, metadata parser is custom for many formats in rb, but not the codec itself |
| 18:52:10 | linuxstb | domonoky: It's not just the metadata parser, it's the code that parses the container format the codec is stored in. The codec libs themselves mostly just deal with the raw audio frames. |
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| 18:53:11 | domonoky | ah, good to know. |
| 18:56:23 | htrejh | would e200 themes work on c200 ? |
| 18:56:34 | LambdaCalculus37 | No. The screen resolution is different. |
| 18:56:40 | htrejh | ow yeah ok, thanx |
| 18:56:47 | LambdaCalculus37 | The e200 has a 176x220 LCD, and the c200 has a 132x80 LCD. |
| 18:56:52 | htrejh | there are no nice themes for c200 :( |
| 18:57:07 | htrejh | can you port themes? :p |
| 18:57:10 | htrejh | will try myself maybe |
| 18:58:32 | gevaerts | It isn't that hard |
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| 19:20:53 | PSPdemon | wow.... what a suprise :D |
| 19:21:02 | PSPdemon | ( btw its HTCdemon still :P ) |
| 19:21:56 | PSPdemon | any plans on adding FS #8806 to main? ( as in bundled in with official releases? ) |
| 19:24:37 | LambdaCalculus37 | PSPdemon: Only as a codec, which the author of the patch has to write himself. |
| 19:24:46 | PSPdemon | ahh |
| 19:24:47 | LambdaCalculus37 | At least, that's what many have agreed on. |
| 19:25:05 | PSPdemon | im suprised how well it works on my little sansa |
| 19:25:34 | * | kugel wonders why it has its own strcasecmp |
| 19:26:30 | PSPdemon | wont lie....using it to play my mod files :P |
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| 19:27:28 | LambdaCalculus37 | I've used it on my Gigabeat S, my iPod video, and my iriver H340. The performance as a codec is very good on all three targets, but the author of the patch has been concentrating on making it a viewer plugin. |
| 19:27:43 | PSPdemon | hmm |
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| 19:28:03 | PSPdemon | wonder how hard it would be to make it a codec? |
| 19:28:16 | LambdaCalculus37 | He already wrote it as a codec; look at the Flyspray ticket. |
| 19:28:23 | PSPdemon | ahh |
| 19:28:30 | LambdaCalculus37 | He just needs to write an updated version. |
| 19:28:39 | LambdaCalculus37 | If he does, I was looking to commit it myself. |
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| 19:39:00 | JJNova | lulz again |
| 19:39:09 | PSPdemon | ? |
| 19:39:13 | PSPdemon | lol |
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| 20:01:34 | LambdaCalculus37 | jhMikeS: Ping |
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| 20:06:12 | PSPdemon | also, i know in 3.1 i didnt have this problem but it seems like when im playing a 320kbps file and running firedemo at the same time... the firedemo gets really slow and the mp3 chops in and out |
| 20:06:20 | PSPdemon | or stutters if you will |
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| 20:13:51 | bluehazzard | hi, i was yesterday yet here and hat the problem with the booting of the firmware on the sansa e200v2, i now have tried the actually source, but it doesent help, can somenone help me? |
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| 20:28:23 | kugel | jhMikeS: hey |
| 20:28:50 | kugel | jhMikeS: seems my cable is the bad guy, not your commit (at least in my case) |
| 20:28:52 | jhMikeS | kugel: greetings |
| 20:28:59 | kugel | haven't had any problems with the other one yet |
| 20:29:47 | LambdaCalculus37 | jhMikeS: Slightly dumb question... does all of the new charging code for the beast also require a bootloader update? |
| 20:30:02 | jhMikeS | kugel: that makes the most sense given the OF problem |
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| 20:30:24 | jhMikeS | LambdaCalculus37: No. |
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| 20:31:26 | LambdaCalculus37 | jhMikeS: Okay, just checkiing, although I should still updated my beast bootloader soon. ;) |
| 20:32:17 | LambdaCalculus37 | I have it plugged in right now and running; although the Rockbox Info screen doesn't mention the device is charging, it seems to be working. |
| 20:32:24 | * | LambdaCalculus37 removes an i from his previous sentence |
| 20:33:11 | jhMikeS | LambdaCalculus37: Sounds like the info screen needs a tweak. |
| 20:33:45 | jhMikeS | Unless the battery was already full enough when you plugged it? |
| 20:33:55 | LambdaCalculus37 | jhMikeS: It was at 99%. |
| 20:35:32 | jhMikeS | Check the battery debug screen to see for sure what it's doing |
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| 20:37:30 | kugel | jhMikeS: 1 thing is weird though, unlike every other usb storage and OFs I got, rockbox doesn't automount in linux |
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| 20:39:09 | jhMikeS | kugel: Did it ever? |
| 20:39:46 | webguest73 | I have anold version of Rockbox on my Iriver H120 and want to install the 3.1 auto install for windows,running XP. When I launchthe |
| 20:41:08 | kugel | jhMikeS: I don't know actually |
| 20:41:30 | kugel | I just started using rockbox usb since it's stable with http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8663 for the first time |
| 20:43:09 | webguest73 | program it wants to find the hex file for a version number, do I need to be online to run the program? |
| 20:43:27 | jhMikeS | kugel: About time that one got squashed |
| 20:44:05 | LambdaCalculus37 | jhMikeS: Battery readout is 4.217V, scale is 3.973-4.218V; there was a large peak with a straight dip. |
| 20:44:45 | jhMikeS | LambdaCalculus37: You mean after it switched off? It should lift then dive and settle. |
| 20:45:37 | LambdaCalculus37 | jhMikeS: Yes, that's the description I was looking for. |
| 20:45:45 | * | LambdaCalculus37 didn't exactly know how to put it |
| 20:46:56 | jhMikeS | Sounds good, 4.217V is higher than mine will voltage regulate to but it's still within the 1% HW tolerance |
| 20:48:08 | evilnick | webguest73: What is the exact message? |
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| 20:49:11 | LambdaCalculus37 | jhMikeS: So charging is (mostly) complete, correct? |
| 20:50:11 | webguest73 | I can not quote the message but it is asking me to direct the install to the hex file that was used for the old install |
| 20:50:37 | htrejh | little question, can you edit a theme for another mp3 player to fit in your screen? |
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| 20:51:19 | htrejh | or add your own background? |
| 20:52:41 | evilnick | webguest73: You could try to update the build without updating the bootloader, although if it's been a looooong time since you originally installed Rockbox then this may lead to problems. |
| 20:53:30 | webguest73 | It has been a Loooooooooooooong time maybe a couple years |
| 20:54:20 | evilnick | I've not used the rbutil for the h1x0. It'd help to know the exact message. Maybe it's asking for a new .hex file to patch the bootloader to (I'm not 100% on this, it's an assumption) |
| 20:54:28 | jhMikeS | LambdaCalculus37: Press up/down from the battery screen to see other views. It sounds like it finished. |
| 20:54:51 | webguest73 | let me hook it up and see what it wants OK |
| 20:55:51 | LambdaCalculus37 | jhMikeS: The second battery debug screen tells me the charger's present and it's state is "discharging". |
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| 20:57:06 | jhMikeS | LambdaCalculus37: It's definitely done then. |
| 20:58:14 | LambdaCalculus37 | jhMikeS: Actually, my question earlier was about the charging code itself; just typed it out too quickly. ;) |
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| 21:00:37 | jhMikeS | where the heck is info screen code? |
| 21:03:37 | webguest73 | Bootloader installation requires you to provide a firmware file of the original firmware (HEX FILE). You need to download this file yourself |
| 21:04:06 | evilnick | Ah, so in that case you do need the original iRiver firmware image |
| 21:04:38 | bertrik | jhMikeS, I remember looking a long time for that too :P |
| 21:04:48 | webguest73 | is that what is on the player or the file I downloaded and installed |
| 21:05:51 | rasher | webguest73: The manual explains this |
| 21:05:51 | evilnick | webguest73: It seems as if you need to get a new one: |
| 21:05:53 | evilnick | Download a supported version of the Iriver firmware for your Iriver iHP100, iHP115, iHP120, iHP140, H120 and H140 from the Iriver website, links can be found on IriverBoot. Supported Iriver firmware versions currently include 1.63US, 1.63EU, 1.63K, 1.65US, 1.65EU, 1.65K, 1.66US, 1.66EU and 1.66K. Note that the H140 uses the same firmware as the H120; H120 and H140 owners should use the firmware called ihp_120.hex. Likewi |
| 21:06:11 | evilnick | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot#Download_and_extract_a_recent_ve |
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| 21:07:49 | jhMikeS | meh, main_menu.c of all things |
| 21:09:56 | webguest73 | If I do the download and point the 3.1 installer to that download do you think it will install? |
| 21:11:20 | evilnick | webguest73: Please read this page from the manual in full: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-h100/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-110002.3.2 |
| 21:11:46 | jhMikeS | It seems it examines the charge_state variable directly which of course won't work so nicely with varying target implementations |
| 21:11:46 | * | linuxstb wonders what's needed (if anything) to make iriver h1x0 flashing "official" in the next release |
| 21:12:28 | evilnick | linuxstb: "The Rockbox bootloader allows users to boot into either the Rockbox firmware or the Iriver firmware. For legal reasons, we cannot distribute the bootloader." I imagine |
| 21:13:09 | linuxstb | evilnick: No, I'm talking about completely replacing the contents of the flash ROM with Rockbox code. |
| 21:13:13 | Llorean | linuxstb: We need a v7 bootloader that's known good. |
| 21:13:33 | Llorean | Don't we still not know why Petur's H300 had issues with the H300 bootloader? |
| 21:14:13 | linuxstb | That's H300 though. Are there problems on H100? |
| 21:14:29 | Llorean | I haven't seen any reported with the v7pre4 for H100 series |
| 21:14:40 | Llorean | And in fact it works with CF cards better than our current one does. |
| 21:14:55 | Llorean | But v7pre4 is considerably older code than current SVN, which hasn't been tested, I think |
| 21:15:22 | Llorean | I think it's a case of Petur's had problems, and not many people are willing to risk flashing an H100 just to see if they have problems too |
| 21:15:30 | evilnick | Llorean: Out of interest, is there another point release coming up? |
| 21:15:39 | Llorean | evilnick: Every 3 months. |
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| 21:15:49 | Llorean | Or do you mean like 3.1.1? |
| 21:16:23 | evilnick | Nah, 3.2. And every three months was what I needed. Thanks. |
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| 21:18:15 | Llorean | linuxstb: I'm not entirely sure the 7pre4 bootloader is based on SVN code or an uncommitted patch, honestly |
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| 21:19:54 | BigBambi | slasheri is your man there I think |
| 21:19:58 | Slasheri | linuxstb: i think the v7pre4 is quite official already. I don't see any point that would make it more official or not |
| 21:20:05 | BigBambi | or flasheri as he was for a while :) |
| 21:20:11 | BigBambi | Speak of the devil! |
| 21:20:19 | Slasheri | 7pre4 is based on svn and is throughly tested |
| 21:20:34 | BigBambi | v7pre4 works great here |
| 21:21:06 | Slasheri | (by assuming there are no significant differences between hardware revisions) |
| 21:21:09 | Llorean | Slasheri: It'd need to be rebuilt with the 7 version number, and integrated into the tools, posted on the download server, etc. |
| 21:21:34 | Llorean | And the SVN revision it was built from would need to be tagged. |
| 21:21:55 | Slasheri | otherwise the bootloader should be safe to use, and the flashing plugin should contain that many safety measurements that it's not possible for an "ordinary user" to mess with the flashing |
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| 21:24:17 | LambdaCalculus37 | Llorean: I still think it would be a good idea to finally have a Bootloader v7 for the H100, though. It's been a long time in coming that we can finally remove the iriver firmware from the H100 entirely. |
| 21:24:20 | linuxstb | Slasheri: Could we simply ship a Rockbox .hex file, which users can flash with the OF? |
| 21:24:38 | Llorean | LambdaCalculus37: Where did I say we couldn't? |
| 21:24:41 | Slasheri | linuxstb: yes, we could |
| 21:24:49 | * | linuxstb should probably catch up on the current method... |
| 21:24:58 | linuxstb | Can Rockbox flash a .hex file? |
| 21:24:58 | Slasheri | it would then completely replace the OF at once |
| 21:25:15 | Slasheri | linuxstb: not yet directly, it needs to be converted to .bin |
| 21:25:19 | LambdaCalculus37 | Llorean: Never. :) |
| 21:25:26 | LambdaCalculus37 | And nowhere. |
| 21:25:35 | Slasheri | (and even then it should be safe to flash any .bin within rockbox, no bootloader will ever be overwritten) |
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| 21:26:09 | LambdaCalculus37 | But should we have a bootloader v7 for Rockbox 3.2? |
| 21:26:28 | Llorean | We can have bootloader v7 whenever it's ready |
| 21:26:48 | Llorean | As in, once we've integrated it into fwpatcher and uploaded it and new bins for rbutil to use. |
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| 21:27:38 | Llorean | There's no real reason bootloader releases need to wait for Rockbox releases, really. |
| 21:28:04 | Llorean | If they ever broke backward compatibility we'd probably want to align it with a release, just so the current bootloader worked with the current release build, but that seems pretty unlikely. |
| 21:28:18 | jhMikeS | The info screen should refresh too (or else it won't pick up charger state changes) |
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| 21:29:42 | Slasheri | unless there are some improvements in svn that needs to be included with the new BL, i would recommend by releasing the 7pre4, as it will take some time to verify that the current svn works correctly |
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| 21:41:53 | fml | Hello. Does anybody else have the problems switching between the FM stations (preset mode)? Sansa e260, latest build. I press left and right, but nothing happens. |
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| 21:45:25 | fml | Hrmm... In the keymap I don't see any actions for switching the FM stations. |
| 21:48:05 | pixelma | it links to the settings context. |
| 21:49:25 | pixelma | on other targets ACTION_STD_PREV and ACTION_STD_NEXT is used for adjusting frequency or change stations in preset mode |
| 21:49:51 | fml | pixelma: yes, now I see that. But it doesn't work. |
| 21:50:41 | fml | And also the status bar is not drawn correctly |
| 21:50:44 | pixelma | it looks like that would be mapped to the "Up" and "Down" buttons in the e200 keymap |
| 21:51:17 | pixelma | which are already used for something else |
| 21:51:36 | fml | pixelma: it has always been LEFT and RIGHT |
| 21:53:38 | pixelma | kugel changed the settings context in his last commit |
| 21:53:39 | fml | I'll file a bug report |
| 21:53:54 | pixelma | to up/down instead of left/right |
| 21:54:36 | kugel | fml: did I break something? |
| 21:55:07 | pixelma | yes, the radio screen |
| 21:55:22 | kugel | if yes, then I'm sorry, but I don't have radio capabilities on my sansa, and no one seemed to care about testing (it was open on the tracker long enough) |
| 21:56:22 | fml | kugel: I don't know when it broke. I haven't updated RB for a couple of weeks. Yesterday I did and saw some weird things. FM stations can't be switched, status bar is drawn ... or not, and once the next song info was not shown |
| 21:56:55 | kugel | the statusbar isn't my business, but the button mapping in this case |
| 21:57:02 | fml | kugel: I'm not blaming anyone, just stating facts. Did you change something recently? |
| 21:57:06 | kugel | yes |
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| 21:57:56 | kugel | you mean, you cannot toggle through presets? not at all, or only with the right button? |
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| 21:58:32 | evilnick | kugel: not at all for me using r19856-090125 |
| 21:59:16 | fml | Yes, I can't switch the presets. It has been RIGHT and LEFT, but now both don't work. Only through the menu (press SELECT to bring up the list of presets and choose) |
| 21:59:28 | evilnick | confirmed here. |
| 21:59:40 | kugel | ok, can you compile yourself? |
| 21:59:56 | kugel | if not, I'd compile a build for you in a few minutes |
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| 21:59:59 | evilnick | not for another 2.5 hours |
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| 22:00:01 | pixelma | BUTTON_UP and DOWN are already used in the radio context which then links to the settings context - there you changed STD_PREV and NEXT from left/right to up/down |
| 22:00:04 | fml | kugel: should I file a bug report? |
| 22:00:22 | kugel | fml: not if I can serve a fix in the next 30 min :) |
| 22:00:30 | pixelma | kugel: you should be able to test in the sim, I believe the radio screen is simulated |
| 22:00:36 | bertrik | ok, I hacked some of the perl scripts to select theme.resolution.target.wps (if available) instead of theme.resolution.wps |
| 22:00:58 | fml | kugel: ok. But I'll still file a report because of the status bar |
| 22:01:22 | bertrik | that should help to select a sansa clip specific wps instead of the generic one (required because of the yellow/cyan split) |
| 22:02:03 | kugel | fml: I think that one is known |
| 22:02:35 | kugel | pixelma: well, it doesn't receive any station |
| 22:02:47 | kugel | but scanning and using presets should still work, right? |
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| 22:03:54 | pixelma | I just tried and it shows that I'm changing "frequencies" in a c200 sim |
| 22:04:15 | pixelma | using a preset file will probably work too |
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| 22:04:54 | kugel | this context chaining is evil imo |
| 22:06:15 | pixelma | weird seeing you say that... (and I don't find it really evil) |
| 22:06:48 | kugel | case ACTION_SETTINGS_INCREPEAT: global_settings.volume++; in radio.c, not that this makes any sense, other than making context chaining possible... |
| 22:07:01 | pixelma | PLA context combination is much more evil |
| 22:07:16 | kugel | I can agree with that |
| 22:08:18 | kugel | can I just remove the link to context_setting? |
| 22:08:46 | kugel | and re-assign volume and scanning? |
| 22:10:10 | pixelma | other keymaps define their own STD_NEXT etc. in the radio context too but I actually can't understand where else prev/next makes sense on up/down (just from my imagination of the e200 buttons though) |
| 22:10:23 | pixelma | +make sense |
| 22:10:28 | kugel | or, if not, just link to wps context |
| 22:10:32 | kugel | that makes much more sense |
| 22:11:23 | kugel | pixelma: there's very few screens, which use SETTING_PREV / NEXT, and on that it makes sense |
| 22:11:42 | kugel | ACTION_STD_PREV/_NEXT* |
| 22:11:58 | kugel | that's what I noticed at testing, this change didn't seem to have any impact |
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| 22:13:44 | kugel | really, linking to wps would make more sense to me, the radio screen has much more in common with that one, rather than with settings |
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| 22:15:49 | hillshum | Should a build for e200v2 get me to the menu? |
| 22:16:04 | pixelma | kugel: I see no ACTION_STD_PREV/NEXT in the wps context |
| 22:17:13 | kugel | well, some more code is needed to change |
| 22:17:48 | kugel | ACTION_WPS_SEEKBACK and SEEKFWD sounds much better, instead of the STD ones, imo, for radio |
| 22:18:08 | pixelma | and then you change all the other keymap files? |
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| 22:18:46 | kugel | that would be needed yes |
| 22:18:53 | kugel | + radio.c |
| 22:19:14 | pixelma | I'd somehow expect that it will break something else on some other target |
| 22:19:23 | fml | kugel: I think you shoud not link radio context to the WPS one. IIUC context chaining is for "fallback", and the FM screen is not a "descendant" of the WPS. |
| 22:19:31 | pixelma | or be afraid of it |
| 22:19:51 | kugel | fml: right, but CONTEXT_SETTING doesn't make any sense either |
| 22:20:01 | kugel | pixelma: that would be the risk |
| 22:20:17 | kugel | I have not said I'll do it, but it should be done imo |
| 22:20:26 | pixelma | you don't need to chain it to some other context... other keymaps don't do that too |
| 22:20:48 | kugel | fml: fallback, as in you don't need to define all buttons for the screen, but it will "inherit" some from other screens |
| 22:21:14 | kugel | pixelma: i think for radio and wps, it would actually make sense to chane |
| 22:21:40 | kugel | volume, seeking, context menu, stop and pause, every thing should be on the same buttons in radio and wps |
| 22:22:08 | amiconn | It can't, in some cases |
| 22:22:20 | kugel | fml: can you build or not, I'd have a patch to test |
| 22:22:27 | pixelma | but the radio has some very own functions like mute or a shortcut to the presets list (where possible) and the preset/scan mode hange shortcut |
| 22:22:28 | fml | pixelma: IMO the should be chained. Otherwise you won't be able, say, to call the main menu from the FM screen |
| 22:23:04 | kugel | pixelma: not everything must be inherited, but the common functions could |
| 22:23:16 | fml | kugel: yes I can. I have to reconfigure first, I think |
| 22:23:25 | amiconn | fml: Why? Chaining is for saving binsize (smaller table) |
| 22:23:55 | kugel | fml: http://pastie.org/373597 |
| 22:24:15 | pixelma | fml: I don't understand your chaining statement |
| 22:24:16 | amiconn | And of course for keeping things similar (more similarity -> more chaning). But it isn't required at all |
| 22:24:22 | kugel | amiconn: it what cases "it can't"? |
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| 22:25:24 | amiconn | kugel: On targets with few buttons, there are functions in the wps which cannot be made available in the fm screen |
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| 22:26:03 | kugel | then those targets either don't chain, or overwrite |
| 22:26:18 | kugel | I'm not sure why targets which enough buttons should suffer from that |
| 22:26:19 | amiconn | Likewise, there are wps functions which make no sense for fm (pitch screen (at least on hwcodec), tag viewer...) |
| 22:26:41 | kugel | see, those could be nicely overwritten for mode switching or what ever |
| 22:26:54 | pixelma | chaining to a different context (or not) is "suffering"? |
| 22:27:06 | kugel | I have never that the functions should be implemented in the radio, just the common ones should be share the buttons by chaining |
| 22:27:38 | kugel | pixelma: no, but not chaining on targets with many buttons, because there's targets with too low buttons, is suffering |
| 22:27:58 | kugel | low/little/less* |
| 22:28:08 | fml | amiconn, pixelma: IIUC, chaining is for inheriting keymaps. If a specific context does not define an action for a key it can be inherited from the parent context. And since the main menu should be callable from everywhere it would make sense to define it in some top level context which is inherited by almost all other contexts |
| 22:28:12 | pixelma | huh? |
| 22:29:20 | kugel | fml: but that doesn't disallow you to redefine the main menu to any other (or even the same button) in other context if you can't/don't want to chain |
| 22:29:24 | amiconn | jhMikeS: There is a reason why the info screen didn't autorefresh. Autorefreshing breaks scrolling.... |
| 22:29:59 | amiconn | ...and that's very bad on small displays |
| 22:30:26 | kugel | fml: ping me when you're testing |
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| 22:32:37 | fml | kugel: yes of course you can overwrite an action. Chaining is about defining some general and common action in one place. |
| 22:32:53 | kugel | exactly |
| 22:33:05 | jhMikeS | amiconn: interesting. any why should it break scrolling? perhaps that should no longer be the case. |
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| 22:33:21 | fml | kugel: should I build a sim or the target? |
| 22:33:29 | kugel | target...sim doesn't work |
| 22:33:33 | kugel | (at least not here) |
| 22:33:50 | pixelma | I still don't understand what you would gain from chaining to the wps context - the current version worked so far, I can't fully understand why wps buttons is more logical (only for left/right and ajusting volume) because there are some specialties in both screens. And I think it could *possibly* make the code/keymaps more complicated for other targets |
| 22:34:07 | amiconn | jhMikeS: lcd_puts_scroll()ing a new string resets the scroll state. And a timeout of 'HZ' means that it will time out before the string even starts to scroll... |
| 22:34:26 | kugel | pixelma: I enumerated quite a few common stuff some minutes ago |
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| 22:35:14 | kugel | also, left/right (as in seeking) and volume is already 3 more than it has in common with the settings |
| 22:36:27 | jhMikeS | amiconn: makes sense from the scroller perspective, not so much from the UI one. |
| 22:36:32 | fml | kugel, pixelma: I still think the radio screen should NOT inherit the WPS screen. But chaining should still be used. |
| 22:36:52 | fml | I mean the keymap contexts of course |
| 22:37:13 | amiconn | jhMikeS: It might work if lcd_puts_scroll checks whether the new string is identical to the old one, and just returns in that case |
| 22:37:15 | pixelma | kugel: left/right is not different from settings prev/next on a lot of targets, so that doesn't count ;) |
| 22:37:48 | kugel | it's already worth changing if it makes the code more senseful and readable |
| 22:38:07 | pixelma | I doubt it will |
| 22:38:07 | kugel | see what arbitary and non-logical chaining can cause, as it's harder to maintain |
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| 22:38:52 | pixelma | but feel free to prove me wrong, without breaking other target's radio keymaps |
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| 22:40:09 | kugel | maybe |
| 22:40:11 | jhMikeS | amiconn: I dont' see any better solution than essentially memcmp in the case of formatted strings |
| 22:40:57 | amiconn | strcmp... but the original string is not always stored unmodified in the scroll context |
| 22:42:00 | fml | I think the contexts should only be chained when the are logically related. The fact that some actions in one "specific" context are the same as in another is a sign that contexts are not designed properly. I.e. there could be some contexts that are only there as a base for inheritance but not used "as is" in any screen. |
| 22:42:17 | amiconn | Either the padding (3 spaces) when scrolling around is taken into account when comparing, or the comparison is done differently |
| 22:42:29 | amiconn | ...e.g. by storing a crc32 of the input string |
| 22:42:29 | kugel | fml: I think the radio and wps have more in common than any other screens in rockbox |
| 22:42:35 | pixelma | wouldn't you add a set of useless actions if you just chain to the wps context? (like the A-B repeat ones etc) or am I misunderstanding? |
| 22:43:08 | fml | kugel: then define a context with the common actions and let both WPS and radio screen inherit it. |
| 22:43:28 | kugel | pixelma: these actions are there without chaining too. chaining also saves code size (see what amiconn said about the table size= |
| 22:43:31 | kugel | ) |
| 22:43:41 | kugel | fml: have you tested the patch? |
| 22:44:22 | fml | kugel : not yet. But if it's only a flick... I'd rather make it properly (see above) while we're at it |
| 22:44:33 | jhMikeS | amiconn: I suppose I can take that part out for now. Some way to allow scrolling to continue even if the string is changing would be the nicest way to go. |
| 22:44:36 | pixelma | they will add some more possible conflicts though, I imagine |
| 22:44:57 | fml | kugel: I just finished building the clean RB. Where is thepatch? |
| 22:45:02 | kugel | pixelma: I don't see how |
| 22:45:11 | kugel | fml: http://pastie.org/373597 |
| 22:45:33 | amiconn | jhMikeS: I think that continuous scrolling for identical strings would be better than what we have now |
| 22:46:04 | amiconn | Changing strings can be done later (as that probably needs work on the apps side of things) |
| 22:47:03 | pixelma | because more buttons will already be "used" in the definitions at least if you read the code (and as I said that's how I imagine it currently, maybe it's not) |
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| 22:47:43 | kugel | bertrik: there's a typo in your comment at cabbiev2 for clip |
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| 22:47:55 | kugel | good that you brought the example, else it would've been confusing :) |
| 22:48:34 | mattisonfire | heey, idk if this is off topic, but can i ask some questions about ipod classic 120g? |
| 22:48:39 | fml | kugel: why are the entries for ACTION_NONE needed? |
| 22:49:04 | kugel | to override actions in the settings context.. |
| 22:49:33 | kugel | it can be done without, I just want to see if it works now, then I'll see about the action_none |
| 22:49:40 | fml | kugel: ah... But once again: this is a sign of a wrong inheritance IMO |
| 22:49:47 | mattisonfire | inb4 flame, is this the right place to be asking questions about an ipod classic build/ downgrade to ipod 5g? |
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| 22:50:11 | linuxstb | mattisonfire: The hardware is completely different, you can't "downgrade". |
| 22:50:29 | kugel | fml: really? |
| 22:50:33 | mattisonfire | allright, thats all i need to know, thanks. Ill go sulk in a corner wishing i had a 5g |
| 22:50:43 | kugel | that's what I'm saying the last few hours ;) |
| 22:50:50 | kugel | or minutes, rather |
| 22:51:04 | jhMikeS | amiconn: Sure it's better but I wasn't looking to get knee deep into this at this time. |
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| 22:53:21 | fml | kugel: hrmm... I built the .mi4 file. Shoudl I just copy it to .rockbox on the player? |
| 22:53:29 | kugel | yes |
| 22:56:28 | fml | kugel: FM screen still doesn't work. But it's weird: the RB version does not contain an "M." I applied the patch and then did make again. |
| 22:56:30 | pixelma | kugel: it's pretty unlikely that you have a release event for the left button with BUTTON_UP being the pre |
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| 22:56:54 | pixelma | right and down respectively |
| 22:56:56 | kugel | fml: if it doesn't have the M, you're doing something wrong I think |
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| 22:57:43 | kugel | pixelma: ah yea, thanks for spotting |
| 22:57:44 | pixelma | looking at your pasted patch |
| 22:58:00 | fml | kugel: "svn status" shows that the file is modified |
| 22:58:31 | kugel | fml: no idea, maybe you didn't copy properly |
| 22:58:46 | fml | kugel: anyway, I have to leave now. I'll file a bug report so that other can test as well. |
| 22:58:59 | kugel | ok |
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| 22:59:39 | kugel | pixelma: that was actually copy and pasted from settings context |
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| 23:00:02 | kugel | just replaced the UP/DOWN with LEFT/RIGHT, but forgot the pre stuff :/ |
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| 23:04:07 | volkmar | is there someone involving in rockbox utility ? |
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| 23:06:21 | hillshum | What is the question |
| 23:06:22 | hillshum | ? |
| 23:06:55 | volkmar | i want to know if it is possible to release the source with the binary |
| 23:07:05 | volkmar | for source based distro |
| 23:07:17 | n1s | volkmar: the source is available in our svn |
| 23:07:28 | volkmar | i know |
| 23:07:58 | n1s | volkmar: then i don't understand your question |
| 23:08:05 | volkmar | but it will be better to have a 1.0.9-src tarball |
| 23:08:18 | volkmar | less bug and simplier |
| 23:08:58 | * | gevaerts expects *more* bugs and complexity... |
| 23:09:01 | volkmar | i want to do a gentoo ebuild but based on svn it's very slow and you can't have a good update system |
| 23:09:29 | volkmar | actually, most soft are providing source tarball with each release |
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| 23:09:49 | n1s | that is not a terribly good argument |
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| 23:09:58 | Bagder | volkmar: you're free to do that for us too |
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| 23:10:40 | Bagder | there's been exactly _zero_ demand for it in the past so... |
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| 23:11:54 | n1s | didn't someone make one of those ebuild things already? |
| 23:12:40 | Bagder | I thought so too |
| 23:13:01 | kugel | I think there was a tracker task about that |
| 23:13:28 | * | Zagor fails to see the point of compiling a not-latest version of rbutil |
| 23:14:04 | n1s | it's at the bottom of this page http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtility |
| 23:14:16 | rasher | A tarball would've helped back when I was attempting to create a Debian package of rbutility |
| 23:14:27 | rasher | All docs assume you start with a tarball :\ |
| 23:15:34 | n1s | well, it isn't exactly hard to make one and i'd guess hosting it on download.rockbox.org would be no problem |
| 23:15:45 | Bagder | indeed not |
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| 23:16:26 | volkmar | Zagor: you do not use a source based distribution |
| 23:17:00 | volkmar | every source based distrubtion need a tarball for each version |
| 23:17:03 | Zagor | volkmar: certainly not |
| 23:17:11 | volkmar | using svn is considered as dangerous |
| 23:17:53 | volkmar | and the ebuild in your page is using the repository |
| 23:17:54 | gevaerts | volkmar: why? |
| 23:18:01 | Unhelpful | volkmar: version-control ebuilds are not remotely as evil as gentoo docs suggest |
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| 23:18:27 | Bagder | if you get a fixed revision, what would the difference be? |
| 23:19:07 | Bagder | apart from slower download of course |
| 23:19:25 | volkmar | Bagder: if you consider to got a specific revision that is a release one, you still depend on subversion and have a slow download |
| 23:19:47 | * | gevaerts disagrees |
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| 23:19:53 | gevaerts | You can use git as well! |
| 23:20:13 | Bagder | and you could move the rev at your own choice, no release necessary from anyone |
| 23:20:14 | rasher | volkmar: Considering you're willing to spend the time to BUILD the thing, I think the speed penalty of downloading through svn is the least of your worries |
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| 23:27:29 | volkmar | actually, with the same way of thinking, when a process need to build 4 version, it is not so difficult to add a tarball |
| 23:27:44 | volkmar | i will be glad to do it for 1.0.9 |
| 23:28:03 | Unhelpful | rasher: some of the gentoo dev docs have stacks and stacks of arguments about how evil using a project's version-control repo for builds is... i can't say that most of them hold much weight, really, but they're sold pretty hard. |
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| 23:28:46 | rasher | Unhelpful: Considering every release is tagged, I really can't imagine what the problem is |
| 23:29:07 | volkmar | Unhelpful: i'm not saying it's evil but it's not so difficult to provide sources |
| 23:29:12 | Unhelpful | volkmar: seriously, we don't have broken code in our repository very often, and there's basically nothing else that builds against rockbox that you have to worry about breaking after updating it. there's really no reasonyou can't build latest. |
| 23:29:17 | volkmar | rasher: yeah, i've seen |
| 23:29:22 | Unhelpful | volkmar: yes, but there's not really any good reason to. |
| 23:29:25 | Zagor | Unhelpful: since gentoo is pretty much a religion, that does not surprise me |
| 23:30:04 | Unhelpful | *sigh* some users don't see it that way :/ |
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| 23:33:56 | kugel | Unhelpful: hey, you have a radio in your e200? |
| 23:34:17 | Unhelpful | i think so... i'm going soon, though. |
| 23:34:29 | volkmar | to conclude, you will do nothing even if i send you the tarball ? |
| 23:34:50 | kugel | Unhelpful: hm ok, but if you have time, I'd welcome if you could test the fix at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9846?project=1&type=2&order=id&sort=desc |
| 23:36:23 | gevaerts | volkmar: you need to convince Bagder or Zagor :) |
| 23:36:37 | z4chh | do you guys think the earlier source code of rockbox would be good to read to try to understand how firmware and drivers are coded in c? |
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| 23:37:26 | Zagor | volkmar: you are the first to ever want the tarball, everyone else simply grabs the source from svn. if you take the source from svn and make a tarball, are you then not happy? |
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| 23:39:11 | Zagor | z4chh: firmware and drivers are not coded in any strange way, really. they are simply restrained by limited resources. |
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| 23:39:54 | volkmar | actually, i was not here because _i_ need a source tarball but because rockbox is the first project i see with a source tarball and i think it should be fixed |
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| 23:40:11 | z4chh | Zagor, im just trying to find some open source code to look at to understand how low level system programming works |
| 23:40:17 | volkmar | s/with/without |
| 23:40:21 | welty | kugel: I just PM'd you the info on compiling for SANSA_C200V2 out of SVN |
| 23:40:52 | kugel | welty: and I answered |
| 23:41:47 | BigBambi | Zagor: Still it'd be nice to get rbutil into distros, and if gentoo really really want a tarball I don't suppose there is much harm in sticking one on the server. |
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| 23:41:58 | Unhelpful | kugel: perhaps at work tonight. i'll let you know what my results are. |
| 23:43:03 | kugel | Unhelpful: very appreciated, thanks |
| 23:43:38 | Zagor | BigBambi: I'm split about that. getting rbutil into distros basically just means people will be running older versions. |
| 23:43:50 | BigBambi | true |
| 23:44:09 | BigBambi | And given that it is a static binary it isn't like it is hard to get |
| 23:44:41 | volkmar | BigBambi: you can't assume a static binary is not "hard to get" |
| 23:45:00 | BigBambi | Actually, that would be pretty rubbish - we'd end up with loads of bug reports about not being able to install new versions ets |
| 23:45:00 | volkmar | i can't use you binary because i'm using a ppc |
| 23:45:05 | kugel | it's as hard as clicking the link in the wiki |
| 23:45:17 | BigBambi | volkmar: So you can build it, which isn't hard either |
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| 23:45:38 | volkmar | BigBambi: harder if i have to checkout the svn |
| 23:45:51 | BigBambi | Why? |
| 23:46:10 | BigBambi | Anyway, I stand by it being easy for the vast majority of people |
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| 23:46:18 | Unhelpful | volkmar: it really is not harder. |
| 23:46:31 | Zagor | volkmar: you run gentoo. you *want* things to be hard. go run svn. |
| 23:46:51 | volkmar | ... but why not adding a source tarball ? that's not hard |
| 23:47:08 | volkmar | that is not making things harder for anyone |
| 23:47:13 | BigBambi | I find svn eaier than remembering the random flags to untar a tarball |
| 23:47:23 | volkmar | and it will make them easier for some |
| 23:47:24 | rasher | It's one more thing to do (and forget) when making a release |
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| 23:47:35 | rasher | And there's been zero requests for it until now |
| 23:47:50 | BigBambi | It could go on the list though |
| 23:48:14 | BigBambi | If it gets forgotten then it is the same a now, if it gets done then it helps the two people that want it |
| 23:48:21 | BigBambi | *as |
| 23:48:30 | volkmar | ok |
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| 23:48:47 | volkmar | i think it's time to stop wasting our time |
| 23:48:52 | rasher | BigBambi: Juts explaining why we haven't been doing it |
| 23:49:08 | BigBambi | rasher: Sure. But I don't see why not to in the future |
| 23:49:36 | BigBambi | Or at least to try not to forget :) |
| 23:50:30 | Zagor | One good reason is that we don't want compilation questions from people who can't even run svn. |
| 23:50:39 | Unhelpful | BigBambi: you don't have to remember anything, we're talking about a fetch-and-build script... and all you need in an ebuild to use svn is inherit svn |
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| 23:50:55 | Unhelpful | ...actually, "subversion". :) |
| 23:51:06 | Zagor | if you know you want to build it yourself, you know how do get it. if you don't know, get the binary. |
| 23:51:17 | BigBambi | Unhelpful: I thought we had moved onto people who want to compile themselves but from a tarball and not svn |
| 23:52:35 | volkmar | BigBambi: actually, using svn to get a specific release is overkill |
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| 23:52:52 | BigBambi | why? |
| 23:55:12 | rasher | It's hardly different for anyone but the person writing the ebuild |
| 23:55:20 | rasher | And then, only very slightly different |
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| 23:56:32 | Zagor | volkmar: did you even try the ebuild? |
| 23:56:38 | * | linuxstb reads the logs and mentions that the standard rockbox tarball includes the rbutil source code |
| 23:57:46 | rasher | linuxstb: but not any specific version of rbutil |
| 23:58:37 | linuxstb | We could rename the one that does. |
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