| 00:00:55 | casainho | I am trying to build the firmware, and I get the error: main.c:(.text+0x414): undefined reference to `i2c_init'. My hardware do no use I2C, is there a way to not build it? |
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| 00:02:05 | casainho | or I need to make a stub for i2c_init() ? |
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| 00:13:28 | Wiredbomb0 | Does anyone know if http://www.ipodwizard.net/showthread.php?t=30444 will work on an iPod Classic 120gb? |
| 00:14:10 | Wiredbomb0 | Whoops |
| 00:14:12 | Wiredbomb0 | Never mind |
| 00:14:17 | Wiredbomb0 | Read the title wrong >_< |
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| 00:25:31 | Wiredbomb0 | Is it possible to mod iPod games if you have the game file itself? |
| 00:25:47 | krazykit | Wiredbomb0, what does that have to do with rockbox? |
| 00:26:05 | krazykit | unless you're asking "can you exploit a bug in the games to run your own code" |
| 00:26:39 | Wiredbomb0 | I'm just wondering |
| 00:27:06 | krazykit | to which the short answer is "yes" but the long answer is "it's probably encrypted too, so you still need to figure out the encryption" |
| 00:27:08 | Wiredbomb0 | And could you exploit a bug in the games to run your own code? |
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| 00:40:51 | Unhelpful | "maybe" |
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| 01:22:16 | PSPdemon | someone should update the wiki on how to fix wads for rockdoom ;P |
| 01:23:03 | saratoga | if its actually useful, go for it |
| 01:24:26 | PSPdemon | well.... it works so far for every wad ive done for it :P |
| 01:25:01 | PSPdemon | the wiki is somewhat correct on the process to fix it...just not detailed into what other things to fix :P |
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| 03:40:46 | XxXSparkXxX | hey does anyone know where i can find mknkboot.exe? |
| 03:56:28 | Unhelpful | the source is in the rockbox source - tools/mknkboot.c |
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| 03:58:15 | PSPdemon | hey unhelpful |
| 03:58:19 | PSPdemon | you are being mighty helpful |
| 03:58:23 | PSPdemon | ;) |
| 03:58:46 | Chesteta | hello, I am having some trouble compiling the latest build for my sansa e200v2 (Normal build) |
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| 03:59:53 | PSPdemon | you know...im curious about the "recovery method" mentioned in the wiki |
| 03:59:56 | PSPdemon | does that acually work? |
| 04:00 |
| 04:00:09 | PSPdemon | or is it flawed in some way |
| 04:00:31 | Unhelpful | which recovery method? for which target? |
| 04:00:35 | PSPdemon | ( for e200v2's ) |
| 04:00:42 | PSPdemon | sorry...meant to add that in |
| 04:01:04 | Unhelpful | ah, that i don't know |
| 04:01:26 | Chesteta | I redownloaded everything; deleted everything in the /rockbox folder except for .svn and then did a "svn update" to make sure everything was fine however after making a build directory and then running ../tools/configure and then running a make I am getting lots of errors... |
| 04:01:28 | PSPdemon | it talks about adding a bridge between 2 pads... which should allow you to reformat/flash the device |
| 04:01:34 | Unhelpful | Chesteta: it's not really a usable target, right now - that's why we don't have nice binaries ready. |
| 04:01:52 | PSPdemon | but i have yet to hear anyone acually try this |
| 04:02:12 | Chesteta | unhelpful: I understood, it has been atleast compiling in the past though |
| 04:02:18 | Chesteta | understand* |
| 04:02:41 | Unhelpful | Chesteta: pastebin your errors, maybe? "lots of errors" doesn't mean much |
| 04:02:56 | Chesteta | i'm on it, give me a min |
| 04:05:02 | Chesteta | In file included from /home/Matt/rockbox/apps/codecs.h:50, |
| 04:05:03 | Chesteta | from /home/Matt/rockbox/apps/plugin.h:67, |
| 04:05:03 | Chesteta | from /home/Matt/rockbox/apps/plugins/properties.c:21: |
| 04:05:03 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Chesteta |
| 04:05:03 | Chesteta | should be in autoconf.h) |
| 04:05:35 | Chesteta | (there are alot of those for different files its trying to make) |
| 04:05:55 | Chesteta | should be in autoconf.h) |
| 04:05:55 | Chesteta | cc1: error: config.h: No such file or directory |
| 04:05:55 | Chesteta | cc1: error: config.h: No such file or directory |
| 04:05:55 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 04:05:55 | Chesteta | cc1: error: config.h: No such file or directory |
| 04:05:55 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
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| 04:05:55 | Chesteta | cc1: error: config.h: No such file or directory |
| 04:05:56 | *** | Alert Mode level 4 |
| 04:05:56 | Chesteta | make: *** No rule to make target `/home/Matt/rockbox/firmware/firmware.make'. S |
| 04:05:58 | Chesteta | top. |
| 04:06:00 | Chesteta | it ends with that |
| 04:06:32 | Chesteta | I will try and get some errors from the begining because I believe those are a bit different |
| 04:07:14 | Chesteta | should be in autoconf.h) |
| 04:07:14 | Chesteta | cc1: error: config.h: No such file or directory |
| 04:07:14 | Chesteta | cc1: error: config.h: No such file or directory |
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| 04:07:14 | Chesteta | cc1: error: config.h: No such file or directory |
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| 04:07:14 | Chesteta | cc1: error: config.h: No such file or directory |
| 04:07:15 | *** | Alert Mode level 9 |
| 04:07:15 | Chesteta | make: *** No rule to make target `/home/Matt/rockbox/firmware/firmware.make'. S |
| 04:07:17 | Chesteta | top. |
| 04:08:11 | PSPdemon | should have pastebin'd that |
| 04:08:16 | PSPdemon | lol |
| 04:08:20 | Chesteta | how do i do that? lol |
| 04:08:34 | Chesteta | I have not used mirc much lately, used it alot when i was younger |
| 04:08:40 | PSPdemon | also unhelpful, apparently the unbricking recovery method has been revised since i last looked |
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| 04:08:58 | PSPdemon | http://rafb.net/paste/ |
| 04:09:06 | PSPdemon | :P |
| 04:09:21 | PSPdemon | paste it there...makes reading it alot easier ;) |
| 04:10:36 | Chesteta | http://rafb.net/p/q7ilqd99.html |
| 04:10:45 | Chesteta | cool, thanks for teaching me that |
| 04:11:34 | Chesteta | note, that is after running the make again, it didn't spit out as much as the first time running the make... idk why it didn't |
| 04:12:32 | PSPdemon | you already ran the config file right? to compile? |
| 04:12:49 | Chesteta | you mean ../tools/configure |
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| 04:12:59 | PSPdemon | yea |
| 04:13:00 | Chesteta | then I entered 56 (e200v2) |
| 04:13:02 | Chesteta | yea |
| 04:13:04 | PSPdemon | ahh |
| 04:13:46 | mikero123 | hi folks, I have a question about doom on my c200, every time I try to run I get a data abort any hints |
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| 04:15:31 | Chesteta | I selected N for normal build too.... :/ |
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| 04:17:37 | saratoga | Chesteta: your source checkout is probably screwed up |
| 04:17:51 | saratoga | check it out from svn into a different folder, and try again |
| 04:17:59 | saratoga | the current svn code compiles without error |
| 04:18:04 | Unhelpful | Chesteta: you say you deleted *everything* except .svn? |
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| 04:18:37 | Chesteta | unhelpful: yes |
| 04:18:53 | Unhelpful | because there's a .svn for each subdirectory - i'd suggest you just delete the rockbox directory itself, and check out again. |
| 04:19:02 | Chesteta | saratoga: Thanks, I will try it |
| 04:19:20 | Unhelpful | if you want to clean your source directory of changes, i'd suggest you use svn revert -R . |
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| 04:20:06 | Chesteta | ok, Ill let ya know if it works |
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| 04:22:45 | XxXSparkXxX | excuse me Unhelpful, how do i compile it? i dont have c++ or anything... i know this is probabally classed as 'warez' but could u possibly send the exe to me? |
| 04:23:22 | Unhelpful | it's not "warez" or anything, but i don't *have* a windows mknkboot, nor the tools to build it. |
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| 04:25:10 | Unhelpful | also, i should point out that without mknkboot, you still have a working rockbox, that can do pretty much everything the OF can do, except play wmv movies |
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| 04:28:52 | XxXSparkXxX | im trying to get my gigabeat s30 to work thats all |
| 04:29:11 | XxXSparkXxX | and the nk.bin file that i downloaded from this site is only 77kb |
| 04:29:23 | XxXSparkXxX | and i read it needs to be about 12.5mb |
| 04:29:48 | saratoga | i think 77kb is correct |
| 04:29:55 | Unhelpful | it's a bootloader. the ~13MB one is the dual-boot version you get after patching the rockbox nk.bin into an OF one. |
| 04:29:56 | XxXSparkXxX | ok |
| 04:30:20 | saratoga | hell all of rockbox isn't 12MB |
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| 04:30:52 | XxXSparkXxX | so i transfer nk.bin to my gigabeat's firmware bit? |
| 04:31:22 | XxXSparkXxX | 'sendfirm.exe' i mean |
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| 04:37:57 | Unhelpful | XxXSparkXxX: you *use* sendfirm.exe to transfer nk.bin to your gigabeat |
| 04:37:59 | Chesteta | hey it appears to be working, thanks for your help guys (or gals) |
| 04:38:28 | Unhelpful | and then leave USB plugged in, it should show up as a drive, and then you can unpack rockbox onto it. |
| 04:39:38 | XxXSparkXxX | ah ok i understand now |
| 04:39:39 | XxXSparkXxX | thankyou |
| 04:41:07 | mikero123 | hi folks, I have a question about doom on my c200, every time I try to run I get a data abort any hints, also with I just installed version 3.1 and now the database never actually completes updating , I only have a few files on the device. |
| 04:41:11 | linuxstb | PSPdemon: Yes, the e200v2 recovery method works - e200v2 owners tested early versions of the "Sansa AMS" bootloader, which "bricked" their devices, meaning they needed to use that recovery mode. |
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| 04:42:34 | Unhelpful | mikero123: have you tried a current build instead of v3.1? |
| 04:43:15 | mikero123 | no, I can give it a whirl. |
| 04:43:38 | mikero123 | I didn't see any of these listed in the known issues list. |
| 04:43:45 | XxXSparkXxX | ok, i installed nk.bin to my gigabeat using 'sendfirm.exe' everything is still plugged in. now i go to my computer and go to 'gigabeat s' under the 'other' section? im unsure because it hasnt changed |
| 04:44:26 | Unhelpful | hm.. you might actually need to unplug the gigabeat for it to load the update, it's been a while since i did this. |
| 04:44:34 | linuxstb | mikero123: Which WAD are you trying with Doom? |
| 04:44:36 | XxXSparkXxX | ok |
| 04:46:32 | XxXSparkXxX | i unplugged the USB and it restarted, after it retsrted it now says 'update or restore PMD' and a '2' in a yellow triangle |
| 04:47:06 | XxXSparkXxX | do i use sendfirm again? |
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| 04:47:57 | mikero123 | linuxstb: freedoom |
| 04:48:56 | mikero123 | Unhelpful: just tried the latest fw, and same on doom Data abort at 01fbc6c4 Still waiting on the database issue, will let you know in a few minutes. |
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| 04:50:16 | Unhelpful | XxXSparkXxX: that doesn't sound good at all. you can try sendfirm again, but it shouldn't be doing this. did you see anything else before that message? |
| 04:50:59 | XxXSparkXxX | no |
| 04:51:48 | XxXSparkXxX | it says update or restore still. do you have a dual boot nk.bin file? |
| 04:52:40 | XxXSparkXxX | im restoring the origional firmware again, and i will start over |
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| 04:52:45 | Unhelpful | no, i've been using rockbox exclusively, the dual-boot is much slower starting up |
| 04:52:56 | XxXSparkXxX | ok, |
| 04:53:23 | XxXSparkXxX | have u still got the nk.bin file u used on your computer? |
| 04:53:43 | Unhelpful | the single-boot one? |
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| 04:53:48 | XxXSparkXxX | yes |
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| 04:56:33 | mikero123 | Uhelpful it has been 10 minutes, and no luch with the database either. |
| 04:57:24 | Unhelpful | mikero123: very strange... i don't have a c200, and i don't use doom, but i've never had that problem on my s60 or my e200 :/ |
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| 04:59:19 | XxXSparkXxX | unhelpful, could u send me the NK.bin file u used? through rapidshare or something? |
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| 05:00:48 | Unhelpful | you can extract an OF nk.bin from this file: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatSInfo#Official_Gigabeat_S_Updater_vers |
| 05:00:55 | Unhelpful | as for a rockbox one, you already have that |
| 05:01:37 | XxXSparkXxX | i got that file, thats the one i have been using to recover the s30. |
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| 05:40:02 | XxXSparkXxX | i need a working rockbox n.bin file... unhelpful do you have a working one? the one from the sit dont seem to work |
| 05:40:17 | XxXSparkXxX | nk.bin* |
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| 05:44:56 | Unhelpful | the one from this page? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatSInstallation |
| 05:45:16 | XxXSparkXxX | yes that one isnt working for me |
| 05:48:16 | Unhelpful | it works for me. |
| 05:49:17 | XxXSparkXxX | ok.. i dont know what im doing wrong then |
| 05:50:11 | Unhelpful | possibly, nothing at all. there are some people who can't get rockbox to work on theirs. i'd suggest you try building a current bootloader, that one is quite old. |
| 05:50:42 | XxXSparkXxX | where can i find one? |
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| 05:54:02 | Unhelpful | here's where to start: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DocsIndex#For_Developers |
| 05:54:33 | Unhelpful | or, more specifically, here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler and here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowToCompile |
| 05:57:59 | XxXSparkXxX | thx |
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| 06:00:46 | XxXSparkXxX | ok i cant do it... i dont hav linux |
| 06:00:55 | XxXSparkXxX | i got xp and windows 7 |
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| 06:03:21 | Unhelpful | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling |
| 06:06:01 | xsloader | #So you need Rockbox-Gigabeat-S |
| 06:06:16 | xsloader | s/need/want/ |
| 06:06:34 | XxXSparkXxX | yer im trying to get my gigabeat s30 to work with rockbox |
| 06:07:33 | xsloader | Actually I'm wondering why there is no gigabeat-s build... |
| 06:07:55 | krazykit | because it's not officially supported |
| 06:07:59 | XxXSparkXxX | yet |
| 06:10:54 | Unhelpful | not that "yet" makes a difference. "it doesn't work on some devices" is just one of the problems that need to be solved. |
| 06:11:10 | Unhelpful | XxXSparkXxX: you didn't actually run the toshiba updater, did you? |
| 06:11:22 | XxXSparkXxX | no i dont hav one... |
| 06:11:26 | XxXSparkXxX | have* |
| 06:11:44 | XxXSparkXxX | is that why it didnt work? |
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| 06:11:58 | Unhelpful | yes, you do, you said that you downloaded it. |
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| 06:12:30 | XxXSparkXxX | sorry i read it wrong.. yes i did run the updater |
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| 06:13:31 | Unhelpful | hrm :/ |
| 06:13:33 | XxXSparkXxX | its version 1.2 "632.4" |
| 06:14:00 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 06:14:00 | * | Unhelpful wonders if he could "break" his by installing *all* of v1.2 |
| 06:14:36 | XxXSparkXxX | what version was your gigabeat b4 u modded it? |
| 06:15:11 | XxXSparkXxX | 1.1 or 1.2 |
| 06:15:23 | Unhelpful | 1.1 |
| 06:15:32 | XxXSparkXxX | ok* |
| 06:15:32 | XxXSparkXxX | ko |
| 06:15:51 | Unhelpful | and please, use real, whole words? |
| 06:16:45 | xsloader | #Oh rockbox.zip is here: http://build.rockbox.org/dist/build-gigabeats/rockbox.zip So you only need bootloader. |
| 06:17:29 | XxXSparkXxX | i need to find a working bootloader yes. |
| 06:17:48 | XxXSparkXxX | if i downgraded to version 1.1 it might work? |
| 06:17:55 | XxXSparkXxX | sorry about my spelling before. |
| 06:18:50 | xsloader | Can't you use http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewfile/Main/GigabeatSInstallation?rev=1;filename=gigabeat-s-b.zip ? |
| 06:18:58 | Unhelpful | it might... i'm not sure anybody has tried. |
| 06:19:20 | Unhelpful | xsloader: for whatever reason, that doesn't work for him, and it immediately goes back to recovery :/ |
| 06:19:55 | XxXSparkXxX | alright... i just downgraded the device, im about to try the rockbox bootloader now. |
| 06:20:00 | Unhelpful | XxXSparkXxX: did you send the bootloader.bin or the nk.bin from that file, with sendfirm? |
| 06:20:26 | XxXSparkXxX | its now version 1.1"632.4" |
| 06:20:43 | Unhelpful | hrm, how did you do that? |
| 06:20:57 | XxXSparkXxX | i sent the nk.bin file. i dont know what the bootloader file did so i didnt touch it. |
| 06:21:17 | XxXSparkXxX | and i used a different nk.bin file from another zip from your site. |
| 06:21:22 | XxXSparkXxX | i'll find which page |
| 06:22:07 | xsloader | I found another nk.bin |
| 06:22:08 | xsloader | http://audio-p.hp.infoseek.co.jp/ |
| 06:22:12 | Unhelpful | right, the problem may be that the updater updates the *other* .bin files on the firmware partition. |
| 06:22:16 | xsloader | http://audio-p.hp.infoseek.co.jp/nk.7z |
| 06:23:29 | XxXSparkXxX | ok. what happens if i upload the bootloader.bin from the gigabeat-s-b.zip? |
| 06:24:00 | Unhelpful | XxXSparkXxX: you don't, you upload the nk.bin |
| 06:24:13 | XxXSparkXxX | ok |
| 06:24:14 | XxXSparkXxX | i was just making sure. |
| 06:24:59 | XxXSparkXxX | xsloader: is that nk.bin file made for the gigabeat s series? |
| 06:27:13 | xsloader | Yes. The website says Rockbox for Gigabeat S |
| 06:27:26 | XxXSparkXxX | ok. im going to test it now |
| 06:28:30 | XxXSparkXxX | YES! |
| 06:28:33 | XxXSparkXxX | it works. |
| 06:28:41 | XxXSparkXxX | im in bootloader USB mode now. |
| 06:28:43 | XxXSparkXxX | thankyou |
| 06:28:58 | xsloader | Oh, good |
| 06:29:19 | Unhelpful | HM. i wonder what the magic was. |
| 06:29:30 | XxXSparkXxX | that file was 12.3mb |
| 06:29:32 | XxXSparkXxX | not 77kb |
| 06:29:40 | XxXSparkXxX | i think it is a merged version |
| 06:29:45 | Unhelpful | XxXSparkXxX: that's a dual-boot nk.bin, then. |
| 06:29:51 | XxXSparkXxX | ah ok |
| 06:29:56 | XxXSparkXxX | that'll do. |
| 06:31:18 | XxXSparkXxX | thankyou to both of you. it is running now. |
| 06:31:22 | Unhelpful | i wonder if the problem is to do with the updater updating recovery.bin, or anything that might be in flash, or such, in some way that breaks only unmerged nk.bin... |
| 06:31:53 | Unhelpful | interestingly, i just did a restore (using sendfirm), and my firmware partition *only* has nk.bin on it. |
| 06:33:56 | XxXSparkXxX | my firmware partition has the following files: nk.bin, eboot.bin, recovery.bin, TsbPmcStore.edb,pmcver.dat,pmcstore.edb |
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| 06:41:57 | Unhelpful | that's the smaller partition? |
| 06:49:13 | XxXSparkXxX | yes thats the small partition |
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| 09:46:04 | casainho | hello :-) |
| 09:46:12 | casainho | I am getting this error: /usr/local/arm-elf/lib/gcc/arm-elf/4.0.3/../../../../arm-elf/bin/ld: region PLUGIN_RAM is full (/home/cas/Documentos/rockbox_player/rockbox/build/apps/codecs/vorbis.elf section .header) |
| 09:46:32 | casainho | what should I do? why it happens? |
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| 10:12:41 | kadoban | casainho: you probably have huge arrays sitting around, you need to cut down on them or cut down the size. you should be able to tell what's big in the map file (maybe)? |
| 10:13:11 | casainho | kadoban: sorry, I didn't explain... I am making a new port |
| 10:13:21 | kadoban | casainho: oh, i forgot...you're the rockbox player guy. i probably don't know for that |
| 10:13:34 | casainho | I need to work the pluguins.lds |
| 10:14:16 | casainho | well, I just build correctly the firmware now - I will debug it to see if it runs |
| 10:14:55 | casainho | I would like to know how can I creat a zip file for the firmware, so I can copy it to the SD Card and try the bootloader... |
| 10:15:41 | kadoban | "make zip"? |
| 10:17:49 | casainho | I will try that |
| 10:18:42 | casainho | well, I am seeing that I can run the .elf file and debug it as I was doing with the bootloader... and the first error I am getting on LCD is "ATA error: 1" :-) |
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| 10:44:32 | beachsurfin | is there an option to list the wps gallery submissions by popularity (most downloaded)? |
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| 10:50:29 | pixelma | Unhelpful: speaking of scrolling in pf... I find it odd that the plugin uses its own scrolling - and I also think that it doesn't look good, especially in cases where it only has to scroll a few pixels |
| 10:51:11 | pixelma | I know, not your fault ;) |
| 10:53:00 | Unhelpful | thanks for the reminder... that was on my to-do list, which is not actually recorded anywhere. :/ |
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| 10:55:32 | pixelma | you're welcome :\ |
| 10:55:47 | Unhelpful | amiconn: first, we need a text scroller for the greylib. secondly, how exactly does the text scrolling "work"? when animating, pf renders directly to the framebuffer, then calls for the text draw afterward. can we still follow that pattern with core scrolled text? |
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| 10:57:27 | amiconn | Not directly. My idea would only work if PF doesn't scroll text while actually animating |
| 10:58:08 | amiconn | Once animation stops, PF could copy the framebuffer contents to a backdrop buffer, and set that bitmap as backdrop. Then scrolling text works as expected |
| 10:58:30 | amiconn | It would then need to stop the scrolling text before restarting the animation |
| 10:59:01 | amiconn | Text scroller for the greylib should be possible. It might even be possible to plug it into the core's scroll engine |
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| 10:59:48 | * | amiconn should really start his planned gfx rework & cleanup |
| 10:59:52 | amiconn | Meh, decisions... |
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| 11:01:53 | Unhelpful | hrm... so the text scroller updates via some timer event, or something like that? |
| 11:02:23 | amiconn | There's a tick task sending events to the scroll thread, which then redraws the scrolling text lines |
| 11:03:36 | amiconn | Redraw must be done from a thread, drawing from an ISR is usually forbidden (the greylib being an exception ) |
| 11:04:46 | Unhelpful | hrm... yeah, that *will* be tricky :/ |
| 11:06:16 | amiconn | what will be tricky? |
| 11:08:46 | Unhelpful | making PF play nice with the core scroller. i don't suposse we care about scrolling names while animating, anyway, though. |
| 11:09:22 | Unhelpful | so, like you said, we can just copy the buffer to another one that we set as the background when animation stops... |
| 11:09:31 | amiconn | Is that done now? Iirc it's not |
| 11:10:06 | amiconn | Hmm, does PF rotate the display on portrait targets? |
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| 11:11:15 | bertrik | amiconn, it doesn't on my e200 |
| 11:11:43 | amiconn | Okay, that makes things easier |
| 11:13:28 | Unhelpful | it also does custom drawing of track list... not just its own scroll implementation, but the highlight bar behind the selected track pulses |
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| 11:14:39 | amiconn | hmmmm |
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| 11:22:48 | pixelma | it also has this gradient in the track list |
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| 11:23:30 | Unhelpful | also, the track list *itself* scrolls up and down, if it's larger than the screen :/ |
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| 11:31:39 | Unhelpful | actually, if pictureflow renders the gradient, and the pulsing bar, into a buffer that's set as the background, would that "work"? i'm guessing the scroll engine will only copy pixels from background buffer in the area that it's drawing into? |
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| 11:33:28 | amiconn | Yes. It would only work if the text actually scrolss though |
| 11:33:52 | Unhelpful | and parts of the bar that aren't "under" the text wouldn't update, either? |
| 11:34:01 | amiconn | But if the background uses a single colur (even if it's pulsating) it's easier than that |
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| 11:36:47 | Unhelpful | no, the selection bar in the track list is blue pulsing blue bar draw with some sort of gradient effect - i've not looked closely at the code behind it, i only know that it uses fade_color, becaue i had to dig around to find out what the expected range for the alpha argument to that was |
| 11:37:42 | Unhelpful | would it be possible to have the scroll engine only updating a structure that says what offset the scroll is at, or whatever else the scroll engine needs to know about, without it doing the actual drawing? |
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| 11:45:56 | Unhelpful | or, perhaps, just a draw_it_my_darn_self bool field ;) |
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| 11:55:41 | naubrey | Does rockbox work on any of the cheap wanna-be ipod nock-offs on ebay? |
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| 11:56:22 | JdGordon | no |
| 11:57:19 | naubrey | Well thanks for shattering all my hopes and dreams!!! lol. Oh well. |
| 11:57:27 | JdGordon | always a pleasure |
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| 11:59:10 | naubrey | If I purchase one of the said nock-offs and send it to a rockbox developer... is there a chance it would be supported in the future? |
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| 12:00:09 | JdGordon | probably not |
| 12:00:48 | naubrey | I realize it is supported on a bunch of devices, but is there a 'best' if I go purchase something? Or does it work equally on all devices? |
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| 12:05:48 | n1s | naubrey: we have a BuyersGuide page in the wiki |
| 12:05:59 | naubrey | thx. I'll check it out. |
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| 12:06:00 | n1s | it depends a lot on what you want the player to do |
| 12:06:05 | n1s | meh |
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| 12:20:05 | casainho | hello :-) −− on bootloader, I am getting the error: "File not found", however I have the dir .rockbox and all files there... |
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| 12:33:21 | bertrik | viewports in a wps shouldn't overlap, right? |
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| 12:34:14 | PaulJam | they can overlap when they aren't displayed at the same time (conditional viewports) |
| 12:34:49 | PaulJam | but otherwise it is likely to cause flickering |
| 12:37:20 | bertrik | ok, thanks |
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| 12:54:55 | Hdaackda | hi. i need major help! |
| 12:56:01 | Hdaackda | I've got an ipod video 30gb (5.5 ) and i instaled the wrong firmware.. Now it shows the apple screen of death (www.apple.com/support).. doesnt get detected by the computer or runs... |
| 12:58:09 | n1s | Hdaackda: what do yuo mean by installign the wrong firmware? |
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| 13:00:35 | Hdaackda | umm.. I had problems with my 80gb video.. it was not getting detected on any pc (even in disk mode). so i took out its harddisk, put it inside 30gbs.. and updated it using Itunes! ( i also had rockbox installed on both of em) |
| 13:01:53 | n1s | can you get it to the diskmode? |
| 13:01:58 | Hdaackda | no |
| 13:02:23 | Hdaackda | the same screen appears... |
| 13:02:38 | n1s | can you put the 30bg disk back maybe? |
| 13:03:01 | Hdaackda | tried that too.. same problem.. infact, now its on both the ipods!! |
| 13:06:12 | Hdaackda | aby ideas 4 a solution? |
| 13:07:12 | n1s | I'm not too good at fixing troubled ipods so you may want to hang around for a while and see if anyone who knows something about this comes around |
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| 13:08:11 | Hdaackda | ok.. |
| 13:08:27 | pixelma | how are you trying to get it in disk mode? |
| 13:08:43 | Hdaackda | select button + play |
| 13:08:51 | Hdaackda | after reseting it.. |
| 13:09:48 | pixelma | can you start the original firmware? |
| 13:09:53 | Hdaackda | no |
| 13:11:21 | Hdaackda | i can't even get them start in diagnostic mode |
| 13:14:25 | Hdaackda | any help would be appreciated |
| 13:18:04 | pixelma | be patient, not everyone knows a lot about Ipods (me neither) and not everyone is at the keyboard all the time. My only other idea would be to check connections etc. if you swapped disks (I'm not sure though if you at least should get something even if the disk is not detected) |
| 13:19:40 | Hdaackda | k.. yup. will wait for someone more tech aware... may even be willing to giv $10 (or something..) if it starts working again!! |
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| 13:49:51 | BigBambi | Hdaackda: It isn't someone more tech aware as the people that you have spoken to are very tech aware, it is waiting for someone that specifically knows ipods |
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| 14:19:18 | casainho | I got my firmware zip file with name "rockbox.playerlittle" and bootloader can't find it because bootloader looks for the "rockbox.rockboxplayerlittle". After renaming the file, the bootloader correctly found it :-) −− where is the mistake? what should I do for the make zip put the correct name of that file? |
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| 14:43:46 | casainho | I am getting an error, on load_firmware(), which calls lseek() and returns with -2. Can someone help me? |
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| 14:47:17 | kadoban | casainho: firmware/common/file.c line.. 711 or so, -2 means you messed up the arguments to lseek itseems like |
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| 14:48:01 | casainho | hmmmm.... |
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| 14:48:16 | casainho | lseek means line seek? |
| 14:48:58 | kadoban | i'm not sure what the l actually stands for, but no..it's for seeking in files. the units are bytes. if you look up POSIX lseek, rockbox's version is very similar |
| 14:49:29 | casainho | it is called here: lseek(fd, FIRMWARE_OFFSET_FILE_DATA, SEEK_SET); |
| 14:49:51 | casainho | on common.c, from load_firmware() |
| 14:51:02 | kadoban | i don't know then. if it's not code you wrote, it's unlikely the arguments are wrong. check errno i guess? |
| 14:52:22 | casainho | ah, sorry - can be my mistake while debbuging, I think that it not hangs there finaly |
| 14:52:37 | kadoban | :) |
| 14:52:56 | casainho | kadoban: and about this: |
| 14:52:59 | casainho | >I got my firmware zip file with name "rockbox.playerlittle" and bootloader can't find it because bootloader looks for the "rockbox.rockboxplayerlittle". After renaming the file, the bootloader correctly found it :-) −− where is the mistake? what should I do for the make zip put the correct name of that file? |
| 14:53:26 | kadoban | i have no idea. the build scripts scare me |
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| 14:54:50 | casainho | kadoban: okok, thanks ;-) |
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| 15:09:18 | mcuelenaere | casainho: you defined BOOTFILE_EXT to rockboxplayerlittle in your config-XX.h, that's why the bootloader can't find the file |
| 15:09:52 | * | mcuelenaere wonders whether that value shouldn't be passed from tools/configure.. |
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| 15:11:03 | casainho | mcuelenaere: so, what I did worng? |
| 15:11:10 | casainho | sorry, can't understand |
| 15:11:27 | mcuelenaere | you'll need to make sure the value BOOTFILE_EXT & BOOTFILE are the same as boot_output in tools/configure |
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| 15:12:43 | casainho | ah, ok, I will rectify :-) |
| 15:12:46 | casainho | thanks :-) |
| 15:15:07 | casainho | there is no BOOTFILE on tools/configure :-( |
| 15:15:18 | mcuelenaere | no, the other way around |
| 15:15:24 | mcuelenaere | BOOTFILE is in config-<target>.h |
| 15:15:29 | mcuelenaere | and boot_output is in tools/configure |
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| 15:15:52 | mcuelenaere | bootoutput* |
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| 15:16:48 | casainho | so, bootoutput should be equal to BOOTFILE_EXT ? |
| 15:17:22 | mcuelenaere | no, BOOTFILE should |
| 15:17:30 | mcuelenaere | but BOOTFILE depends on BOOTFILE_EXT |
| 15:17:52 | mcuelenaere | (and I don't think it's necessary to have 2 define's for this, but I could be wrong) |
| 15:18:41 | casainho | I am confused |
| 15:19:01 | mcuelenaere | look at what load_firmware() does in your bootloader.c file, then you'll understand |
| 15:19:04 | casainho | so, I have this: #define BOOTFILE_EXT "rockboxplayerlittle" |
| 15:19:10 | mcuelenaere | yes, and that's incorrect |
| 15:19:26 | mcuelenaere | because it doesn't match bootoutput |
| 15:19:58 | casainho | and waht should I put on bootoutput? |
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| 15:20:09 | mcuelenaere | the same as in BOOTFILE |
| 15:20:34 | mcuelenaere | bootoutput is what the bootloader gets called when generated |
| 15:20:46 | mcuelenaere | uh I'm wrong :S |
| 15:21:18 | casainho | oh man... |
| 15:21:45 | mcuelenaere | it's output, not bootoutput :) |
| 15:22:13 | mcuelenaere | so the bootloader looks for "./rockbox"BOOTFILE |
| 15:22:15 | casainho | so, any suggestion for output and bootouput? |
| 15:22:26 | mcuelenaere | which is called rockbox.rockboxplayerlittle in your case |
| 15:22:34 | mcuelenaere | but output is rockbox.playerlittle |
| 15:22:41 | casainho | yes... |
| 15:22:49 | mcuelenaere | casainho: just name them the same |
| 15:22:56 | casainho | ah, okok :-) |
| 15:23:04 | mcuelenaere | probably rockbox.playerlittle looks best |
| 15:23:07 | casainho | and the name for bootouput? |
| 15:23:25 | mcuelenaere | hmm it seems there's no consistency in naming them |
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| 15:23:45 | mcuelenaere | I'd go for rockboot.playerlittle, but you could also do rockbox.player_little_bootloader or bootloader.player_little or whatever |
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| 15:24:06 | casainho | okok :-) |
| 15:24:20 | mcuelenaere | hmm and the modelid shouldn't be 999 in tools/configure |
| 15:25:04 | Hdaackda | hi. need a bit of help.. how can I restore my ipod 80gb without itunes?? or install rockbox? |
| 15:25:48 | Hdaackda | i installed the wrong firmware.. then somehow managed to go to disk mode!! the disk is not formated and itunes tells me to restore.. (but its a 80gb harddisk on 30gb ipod..) |
| 15:25:54 | casainho | mcuelenaere: just used that value because would give me problems if someone creates a new target while I get my working |
| 15:25:55 | Hdaackda | i dont wanna mess things further |
| 15:27:30 | mcuelenaere | casainho: ok |
| 15:28:17 | casainho | I am now building the firmqware + bootloader :-) |
| 15:28:32 | kadoban | Hdaackda: is this what you're looking for? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodManualRestore (not really sure, but it sounds like it might be) |
| 15:28:38 | Hdaackda | ok.. 30gb working fine now... (drained battery.. connected 30gb hddisk n it works.. ) |
| 15:28:38 | Hdaackda | But 80gb harddisk just keeps shutting again and again... but if i put it on my 30gb ipod (i.e. 80gb hddisk on 30gb ipod), i am able to go to disk mode... but comp says harddisk not formated |
| 15:28:38 | Hdaackda | also: itunes say you need to restore.. |
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| 15:28:38 | Hdaackda | any idea what to do? if i restore it, 80gb hardisk wuld get messed up, right.. how wuld i then install rockbox on it?? |
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| 15:43:46 | JdGordon | kugel: hey, did you get around to testing that diff i posted last week? |
| 15:44:39 | kugel | JdGordon: ah, totally forgot about it. if you could paste again, I'll do a test right now |
| 15:45:10 | kugel | also, you said you're going to commit anyway ;) |
| 15:45:27 | JdGordon | :) yeah, but testing is always good.... |
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| 15:45:45 | JdGordon | jdgordon.info/~jonno/statusbar.diff">http://jdgordon.info/~jonno/statusbar.diff |
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| 15:46:11 | kugel | JdGordon: I played a bit around with having the wps to issue the redraw when leaving, so the dead parts are gone when entering a custom vp screen |
| 15:46:28 | JdGordon | that shouldnt be needed.... |
| 15:46:45 | kugel | how do you want to get the dead parts away? |
| 15:47:23 | JdGordon | reenableing the custom vp should do it automatically... |
| 15:47:43 | kugel | yes, and that's what the wps should do right? |
| 15:48:11 | JdGordon | indirectly... |
| 15:48:47 | kugel | anyway, if the redraw happens in wps context, it won't work |
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| 15:49:07 | bertrik | are there any cue sheet experts online? |
| 15:49:21 | JdGordon | depends on what you need.... |
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| 15:49:24 | kugel | the wps can only clear, the next screen has do update the screen then |
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| 15:50:02 | bertrik | FS #9638 looks like a nice cleanup, but I don't know how to test it |
| 15:51:08 | JdGordon | neither... umm... I'm working on a patch which will make that irrelevant.. but its moving slowly :/ |
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| 15:51:27 | JdGordon | when i looked at that patch a while ago i thought it looked fine |
| 15:51:36 | kugel | JdGordon: what I'd like to do is to send a "redraw message", right before leaving the wps (the next screen will be up in the next tick), and at the next tick the screen is fully updated |
| 15:52:20 | JdGordon | that should be fine |
| 15:52:36 | kugel | that should work good, at least |
| 15:52:41 | JdGordon | except replace tick with next screen |
| 15:52:56 | kugel | ? |
| 15:53:04 | casainho | when on the bootloader, I get the message on LCD: Model name: ****5 −−> being * weird characters... why? |
| 15:53:30 | kugel | casainho: because you pass those weird chars to scramble maybe? |
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| 15:53:49 | kugel | the scrable tool inserts the short model string into the main binary |
| 15:54:00 | casainho | hmmm, I don't know nothing about the scramble... what is the scramble? |
| 15:54:12 | casainho | ah, ok |
| 15:54:20 | mcuelenaere | casainho: you've probably not used scramble when generating the firmware file |
| 15:54:22 | kugel | JdGordon: "except replace tick with next screen" what do you mean with that? |
| 15:54:28 | mcuelenaere | look at tools/configure how other targets do this |
| 15:54:35 | mcuelenaere | and you'll need to modify scramble.c too |
| 15:55:04 | JdGordon | kugel: when the wps exits it tells the vpm to clear the screen totaly, then when the next screen "loads" it redraws as soon as it can |
| 15:55:52 | kugel | so the screen should do it, not the tick tak? |
| 15:55:56 | casainho | mcuelenaere: my model name is this one: modelname="rockboxplayerlittle" |
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| 15:56:12 | bertrik | casainho, maybe that's too long |
| 15:56:14 | JdGordon | kugel: there is no more tick task |
| 15:56:37 | casainho | bertrik: ok, I will short it, since my LCD is 128x :-) |
| 15:56:41 | kugel | I'm sure there is one which could be abused ;) |
| 15:56:54 | JdGordon | there *was* one which was removed |
| 15:57:09 | mcuelenaere | casainho: look at http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/tools/scramble.c?r1=19083&r2=19574 for an example how to implement scramble.c |
| 15:57:23 | kugel | well, then I'll need to do that what you said should not be done |
| 15:57:31 | JdGordon | ? |
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| 15:59:56 | mcuelenaere | casainho: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/tools/scramble.c?r1=18957&r2=19083 is probably a better example |
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| 16:00:00 | casainho | mcuelenaere: I just need to add that elseif for my model? |
| 16:00:20 | mcuelenaere | yes, and you'll need to change tools/configure |
| 16:01:09 | kugel | JdGordon: well, you said it should be (entirely) up to the screen which doesn't use the custom vp to restore it (fully and correctly) |
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| 16:01:28 | mcuelenaere | casainho: you'll need to add tool="$rootdir/tools/scramble -add=<target>" |
| 16:01:44 | kugel | but that's not possible, so either the new screen, or a scheduled event has to do the redraw |
| 16:01:44 | mcuelenaere | and change toolset to toolset=$scramblebitmaptools |
| 16:01:44 | JdGordon | what? how can it restore some other screen? the best it can do is erase the bits outside the used area |
| 16:02:00 | kugel | that's what you said.. |
| 16:02:06 | JdGordon | when? |
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| 16:04:11 | kugel | "JdGordonits the responsability to the screen which disables them to reenable them", maybe I got you wrong, but it sounded to me that custom-vp-screens should be untouched when it comes to reenabling the custom vp |
| 16:05:36 | JdGordon | yes you misunderstood, or read in more than was typed... if the WPS disables the cvp then it must reenable it... the vpm will realise its changed and clear the whole screen when this happens so the next screen will draw correcly |
| 16:05:43 | kugel | the other problem is that screens don't update the whole screen, but only their parent. the whole-screen update should be something external imho |
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| 16:39:52 | casainho | I am trying to build correctly the firmware and I got the built witout erros but the final file "rockbox.rockboxplayerlittle" is not there however is there the files rockbox.elf and rockbox.bin... |
| 16:41:01 | mcuelenaere | casainho: scramble is located in 'tools/scramble' |
| 16:43:18 | casainho | I got this: |
| 16:43:24 | casainho | ../tools/scramble rockbox.bin rockbox.rockboxplayerlittle -add=rbplayer |
| 16:43:26 | casainho | error: firmware image is 384038 bytes while max size is 204800! |
| 16:43:42 | mcuelenaere | hmm I didn't know scramble had a max size limitation |
| 16:44:29 | mcuelenaere | casainho: then you'll need to change that limit |
| 16:45:02 | n1s | that limit is for the archos based players |
| 16:45:11 | n1s | eh s/based// |
| 16:45:37 | casainho | hmmm, so I should be doing something worng, no? |
| 16:47:00 | kugel_ | casainho: max 4 chars in scramble |
| 16:47:42 | kugel_ | (afaik) |
| 16:48:08 | casainho | ah, I was using more than 4... |
| 16:48:42 | kugel_ | casainho: no other target uses more than 4, why don't you analize existing code? |
| 16:49:09 | casainho | ok, but I couldn't imagine... |
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| 16:56:08 | casainho | I still get the same error: ../tools/scramble rockbox.bin rockbox.rockboxplayerlittle -add=rbpl |
| 16:56:10 | casainho | error: firmware image is 384034 bytes while max size is 204800! |
| 16:57:42 | kugel_ | casainho: have you edited scramble too? |
| 16:58:03 | casainho | yes, I did |
| 16:58:29 | kugel_ | I wonder why the max size is 204800 bytes |
| 16:58:37 | casainho | here is: http://pastebin.com/m119de29a |
| 16:58:46 | mcuelenaere | kugel_: n1s said that's a limit for the archos players |
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| 17:00:14 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 17:00:14 | * | mcuelenaere wonders why the rbplayerlittle fw file is so much bigger then any others.. |
| 17:00:41 | kugel_ | mcuelenaere: it's only 384k |
| 17:00:42 | * | bertrik can't make sense of how to control cue sheets on rockbox and seriously doubts if it works at it is supposed to |
| 17:00:55 | mcuelenaere | casainho: IMO you should add an other value to size_limit and set this as a 'generic' file limit |
| 17:00:59 | kugel_ | mcuelenaere: others have ~600k |
| 17:01:13 | mcuelenaere | hmm then why don't they have this error? |
| 17:01:20 | mcuelenaere | do they all not use scramble? |
| 17:01:22 | kugel_ | because they did it right |
| 17:01:26 | kugel_ | they do |
| 17:01:44 | kugel_ | casainho: can i see your configure? |
| 17:01:55 | mcuelenaere | casainho: it'll probably be easier if you provide a diff |
| 17:02:14 | kugel_ | and rockbox-info.txt which you get after doing make |
| 17:02:33 | casainho | kugel_: here: http://pastebin.com/me6237d7 |
| 17:03:01 | kugel_ | casainho: dude, "tool="$rootdir/tools/scramble -add=rbplayer_little"" |
| 17:03:02 | mcuelenaere | casainho: -add isn't according to scramble.c |
| 17:03:24 | casainho | oh man :-( :-( |
| 17:04:08 | casainho | thanks - I will try again :-) |
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| 17:18:11 | casainho | okok - I got it :-) −− I will put it on SD Card and see if bootloader can run it... |
| 17:18:57 | linuxstb | bertrik: What's the problem with cuesheets? |
| 17:19:55 | bertrik | linuxstb, on closer inspection it seems ok, sorry for complaining. The cue sheet I was using mixed up seconds and hundredths of seconds. |
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| 17:20:29 | linuxstb | That would confuse things... ;) |
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| 18:22:10 | casainho | there is any function with name "stackbegin()" ?? |
| 18:24:38 | casainho | my bootloader is jumping to stackbegin() and I don't know why :-( −− I just see that name on debug window... |
| 18:25:25 | casainho | and that happens on file.c, funtionc: static int readwrite(int fd, void* buf, long count, bool write) |
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| 18:25:51 | casainho | sorry, on fat.c |
| 18:26:15 | casainho | on this loop: /* find sequential sectors and write them all at once */ |
| 18:26:17 | casainho | for (i=0; (i < sectorcount) && (sector > -1); i++ ) { |
| 18:26:36 | casainho | with sectorcount being 714. |
| 18:26:36 | mcuelenaere | casainho: stackbegin isn't a function, but the marker of the beginning of the stack |
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| 18:27:15 | mcuelenaere | how big is your stack? |
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| 18:27:54 | casainho | #define STACKSIZE2k |
| 18:28:03 | casainho | I will put 1MByte... |
| 18:30:54 | casainho | well, I used 2MByte but I am getting the same problem |
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| 19:33:00 | saratoga | does anyone have any thoughts on FS #9721 - No error check after writes in ata.c ? |
| 19:33:16 | saratoga | i don't know enough about ata to comment, but it certainly sounds like the kind of thing we should be doing |
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| 19:47:13 | kugel | saratoga: sounds reasonable, but an expert should comment on that |
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| 20:04:27 | el_gato39874 | would my iPod get screwed up if I delete the iPod_Control/Device/ folder? |
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| 20:05:17 | el_gato39874 | yes, I googled for information and I couldn't find anything |
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| 20:05:58 | saratoga | worst case is you would lose access to the OF, but not the emergency disk mode |
| 20:07:15 | el_gato39874 | that would be fine because I can't boot to the OF anyway |
| 20:09:02 | soap | You don't even lose access to the OF |
| 20:09:17 | soap | the original firmware will recreate those folders everytime you boot into it. |
| 20:09:50 | el_gato39874 | I don't get why the folder is 4.5GB though |
| 20:10:03 | soap | no music or videos? |
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| 20:10:44 | el_gato39874 | I think it's saying it's that big because of disk errors on my iPod |
| 20:11:21 | el_gato39874 | I've been trying to run fsck to fix it but it doesn't get past said folder and gives me a "Too many files need repair." message |
| 20:12:13 | el_gato39874 | I've never had that problem before, so I'm hoping by deleting that folder, fsck can run its course |
| 20:13:02 | linuxstb | el_gato39874: Just reformat it (assuming you have a backup of your music). |
| 20:14:42 | el_gato39874 | reformatting isn't a real option right now because I don't have enough hard drive space to backup all my music :/ |
| 20:16:33 | linuxstb | Trusting a hard disk you carry around in your pocket as the only copy of your music isn't wise... But I would try and find a Windows PC and use chkdsk - fsck doesn't seem to be as good with FAT filesystems. |
| 20:21:54 | el_gato39874 | hmm, it's been a couple of minutes and the delete window is stuck at "Preparing to Delete files..." |
| 20:22:13 | el_gato39874 | I'll try doing that, thanks linuxstb |
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| 21:18:15 | soap | why did the latest commit cause uneven binsize reduction? |
| 21:18:26 | soap | I would have expected the hit to be equal across targets. |
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| 21:45:10 | saratoga | soap: probably due to alignment |
| 21:45:50 | saratoga | that stuct is full of chars, so its probably not an integer number of words, and it may shift things around when its added or removed |
| 21:45:53 | soap | yea, that's what I shamefully assumed as soon as I opened my mouth to express my ignorance. ;) |
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| 21:46:53 | saratoga | but it is odd that a couple targets are different by quite a few words, probably some gcc weirdness |
| 21:47:40 | saratoga | does anyone know if the sansa can detect the difference between a USB insert and a charger insert on powerup yet? |
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| 21:48:38 | kugel | saratoga: V1? I think jhMikeS actually implemented that recently |
| 21:48:48 | kugel | I'm fairly sure they can |
| 21:49:26 | saratoga | i thought he did too, but i didn't have a way to test if it worked |
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| 21:50:28 | kugel | he said he tested it by taking out the data lines in the usb cable |
| 21:51:13 | kugel | I have a charger here, and (with the OF) it always worked (as in the OF never tried to establish a connection, and the player was usable and music not stopping) |
| 21:52:59 | saratoga | actually, i do have a suitable charger |
| 21:53:13 | saratoga | but it still causes the sansa to boot into the OF if power is off when i plug in |
| 21:54:48 | kugel | Hm, I don't know if the bootloader is touched by jhMikeS changes |
| 21:54:56 | kugel | have you updated it? |
| 21:55:54 | kugel | btw, I think, once USB is enabled on PP, some USB code should be moved into the bootloader for a recovery mode |
| 21:55:57 | linuxstb | IIRC, the bootloader uses a different usb detection routing. |
| 21:56:01 | linuxstb | s/routing/routine/ |
| 21:56:10 | kugel | I nearly bricked my sansa today, while updating it in rockbox usb |
| 21:56:55 | Bagder | how can anything be nearly bricked? |
| 21:57:15 | kugel | I could restore it using the OF |
| 21:57:22 | saratoga | i'm also starting to see weird issues with the sansa OF detecting USB connects in recent builds |
| 21:57:29 | linuxstb | kugel: So not bricked at all then... |
| 21:57:38 | kugel | if I uninstalled the of because rockbox usb is working perfectly, I'd had to use e200tool |
| 21:58:18 | kugel | and needing e200tool qualifies as nearly-bricked imo ;) |
| 21:58:30 | * | linuxstb blames Bagder for creating the SansaE200Unbrick wiki page |
| 21:58:30 | saratoga | yes flashing the of bootloader on the sansa is a bit risky |
| 21:58:44 | * | Bagder accepts all blame |
| 21:59:28 | kugel | he's redirecting the blame to perl anyway |
| 21:59:28 | saratoga | haha plugging in the USB cable while in rockbox now causes my sansa to reboot . . . back into rockbox |
| 21:59:30 | saratoga | forever |
| 21:59:30 | Bagder | but I really just used the term others would use, I didn't invent "brick" for non-bricked players |
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| 22:00:08 | linuxstb | Maybe "Recovery" would have been better than "Unbrick" (easy to say now...) |
| 22:00:12 | saratoga | hmm and USB still isn't detected in the OF with current SVN |
| 22:00:29 | kugel | hm? |
| 22:00:33 | saratoga | my bootloader is probably 14 months old, i wonder if its getting out of date |
| 22:00:52 | kugel | usb isn't working in to OF for you? |
| 22:01:24 | saratoga | it will if i switch USB ports or PCs a few times |
| 22:01:30 | saratoga | but i can plug it into the same port forever and it will only charge |
| 22:01:52 | kugel | hm, I'm having that problem too sometimes |
| 22:01:53 | saratoga | i bet its because i flashed the OF bootloader with rockbox, so we're probably not properly initing something the OF needs in the most recent builds |
| 22:02:16 | kugel | So did I |
| 22:02:44 | kugel | but it's independant of the build. the bootloader is loading the of |
| 22:02:49 | saratoga | still its curious the rebooting the sansa doens't clear whatever changes rockbox makes to the setup |
| 22:03:27 | kugel | well, rebooting just loads the rockbox bootloader again |
| 22:05:38 | saratoga | it seems to happen even if i power off the device and leave it for some time though |
| 22:05:46 | saratoga | i'd expect that to erase any internal register settings |
| 22:06:04 | saratoga | hmm the bootloader has had quite a few functional changes to both USB init and power handling in the last year |
| 22:06:46 | kugel | saratoga: I just hope http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8663 gets committed soon, so we can get rid of the of |
| 22:08:40 | saratoga | kugel: even once that goes in, we'll probably not be able to enable USB by default since apparently the bus reset problem renders USB useless for some people |
| 22:09:10 | saratoga | though for some people it'll probably be enough for them to start using it |
| 22:09:14 | kugel | yea, the resets still happen |
| 22:09:20 | kugel | but they don't cause corruptions |
| 22:09:34 | saratoga | and maybe this will motivate someone to reverse engineer the OF and find whatever magic "usb doesn't reset" bit we're missing |
| 22:09:42 | kugel | I had a few resets during the copy of the windows 7 beta image, but the file was fine |
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| 22:10:28 | saratoga | is there a wiki page with the instructions for removing the OF bootloader? |
| 22:10:44 | kugel | sansapatcher -b bootloader.bin |
| 22:10:57 | kugel | (iirc, sansapatcher −−help should tell) |
| 22:11:16 | saratoga | can i use that to put the OF one back? |
| 22:11:31 | saratoga | i'd love to see if theres a difference in battery life between the two |
| 22:12:03 | kugel | saratoga: I'm not entirely sure if that's revertable without e200tool |
| 22:12:50 | kugel | I haven't tried, in theory sansapatcher should be able to patch the OF's bootloader.rom |
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| 22:14:25 | saratoga | i've been meaning to do power measurements with a DMM using different ways of booting rockbox and the OF to see if the idle power changes |
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| 22:15:11 | kugel | I haven't noticed battery life improvements due to removing the OF bootloader |
| 22:15:17 | kugel | nor decreases |
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| 22:17:00 | saratoga | kugel: did you battery bench both? |
| 22:17:21 | saratoga | i haven't noticed a difference, but runtime is so long it woulnd't be hard for it to change by half an hour without me noticing |
| 22:18:14 | kugel | saratoga: well, not exactly. but my battery benches don't differ from those who are on the runtime wiki page |
| 22:21:36 | FlynDice | I'm using the unicatcher theme on my e200v2 and when I start up a grey box with "cleared" appears and cabbiev theme shows up. Does starting up with a button pressed cause this and what has been cleared? |
| 22:22:37 | linuxstb | Yes, and your settings have been cleared. |
| 22:22:42 | bertrik | on e200v1, holding REC on startup causes a "cleared" message indicating cleared settings |
| 22:22:59 | FlynDice | yep that's the one I'm trying... |
| 22:23:01 | rasher | Shouldn't it be saying "settings cleared"? |
| 22:23:28 | FlynDice | just says cleared.. |
| 22:23:31 | kugel | FlynDice: how are you using a e200v2? |
| 22:23:42 | kugel | you can't use any buttons afaik |
| 22:24:19 | FlynDice | I can use buttons and scrollwheel in unicatcher very well |
| 22:24:38 | kugel | how? what did you change? |
| 22:24:41 | Unhelpful | buttons don't depend on wps theme at all |
| 22:25:15 | saratoga | i thought we had buttons on the v2 now |
| 22:25:20 | kugel | Unhelpful: you never know what suprises the ams sansas can offer ;) |
| 22:25:24 | FlynDice | I'm just telling you what I can do... I don't know why.. |
| 22:25:50 | kugel | saratoga: not for e/c200v2 (at least nothing working in svn) |
| 22:26:08 | FlynDice | I found the record button on dbop 15 and have been trying to get that to work... |
| 22:26:14 | kugel | FlynDice: how did you change the source code I mean |
| 22:26:43 | FlynDice | I used the patch sko posted in the forum |
| 22:26:44 | kugel | ah well, you're probably not resetting the button state in the driver probably |
| 22:27:07 | FlynDice | with the fuze code |
| 22:28:03 | kugel | FlynDice: you can edit debug-target.h and debug-as3525.c so you can watch dbop in the system->debug->view io ports menu |
| 22:28:08 | bertrik | I think I'm going to make a wiki pages about FM tuners and make a list of what player use what FM tuner chip |
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| 22:28:49 | FlynDice | yes have to change −−debop_din to DBOP_DIN though |
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| 22:29:05 | kugel | no.. |
| 22:29:06 | FlynDice | er __debop_din |
| 22:29:24 | kugel | yes, that's what I did in the fuze button code |
| 22:29:32 | kugel | sko's patch is outdated in this regards |
| 22:29:58 | FlynDice | you got something better for me to fiddle with then? |
| 22:30:19 | kugel | no, |
| 22:30:52 | kugel | but you could paste your diff to http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9639 |
| 22:31:30 | saratoga | hmm managed to "brick" it trying to update the bootloader |
| 22:31:46 | kugel | really? |
| 22:31:53 | kugel | i.e. svn bootloader is broken? |
| 22:32:03 | saratoga | yeah I used the downloaded bootloader with -bl |
| 22:32:18 | kugel | "the downloaded"? |
| 22:32:23 | kugel | that's not the svn bootloader |
| 22:32:35 | saratoga | its not? |
| 22:32:38 | linuxstb | Isn't the downloaded bootloader an mi4? |
| 22:32:50 | saratoga | http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/sandisk-sansa/e200/PP5022.mi4 |
| 22:32:52 | linuxstb | -bl requires ".bin" - i.e. a raw file, no header. |
| 22:32:55 | kugel | I'm using http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev&revision=19222 as bootloader btw |
| 22:33:01 | saratoga | ah ok |
| 22:33:08 | saratoga | well it should be fixable with e200tool anyway |
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| 22:33:35 | linuxstb | Yes, you've just broken the contents of the firmware partition - e200tool will fix it. |
| 22:34:13 | kugel | hm, when I tried to flash it with a .mi4, sansapatcher refused to do it |
| 22:34:34 | kugel | but I think I compiled sansapatcher myself |
| 22:36:46 | saratoga | should I be able to see the sansa with lsusb? |
| 22:37:54 | kugel | not sure, does the wheel come up? |
| 22:38:17 | saratoga | yes its a solid blue wheel, meaning I'm in the PP ROM |
| 22:38:18 | kugel | run e200tool init, it will succeed if the sansa is connected |
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| 22:51:44 | saratoga | in recovery mode do I actually need to copy the bootloader rom again? |
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| 22:53:37 | kugel | saratoga: yes |
| 22:54:30 | kugel | saratoga: e200tool only executes the recoverymode from RAM, it's not on the storage at that point |
| 22:54:47 | saratoga | ah that makes sense |
| 22:55:00 | saratoga | is it necessary to add the format file too? |
| 22:55:10 | saratoga | or is it smart enough to copy the mi4 and rom over |
| 22:55:21 | kugel | iirc it's not necessary |
| 22:55:50 | saratoga | i'll have to update the unbrick page a bit after all this |
| 22:56:39 | petur | any specific reason why LANG_SERIAL_BITRATE_19200 thinks it deserves a spot in .lang? %d not good enough for it? |
| 22:57:23 | Unhelpful | , vs . for digit grouping? |
| 22:58:12 | petur | serial_port: "19200" <- doesn't show much digit grouping |
| 22:59:02 | kugel | Unhelpful: even if it is, I don't think digit grouping should be handled by langs |
| 22:59:03 | petur | but I haven't had much rb time lately so maybe I missed a discussion about it |
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| 23:00:43 | petur | (same goes for 9600 btw... auto, I can understand) |
| 23:00:57 | linuxstb | petur: Is this part of the ipod accessory protocol commit? |
| 23:01:06 | petur | s/9600/9600 and the others |
| 23:01:18 | petur | could be |
| 23:01:29 | petur | I'll have a look |
| 23:02:23 | linuxstb | Seems to be - http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev&revision=19585 |
| 23:02:57 | petur | yups |
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| 23:05:23 | Unhelpful | perhaps it's to have the various numeric values interchangeable with the "auto" value, with the same format string? |
| 23:05:55 | saratoga | i'm not sure why its like that |
| 23:06:00 | saratoga | but at least my sansa works |
| 23:08:08 | petur | "but it works" is rarely a good answer :p |
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| 23:16:03 | casainho | hello :-) |
| 23:16:08 | amiconn | soap: The uneven size reduction is mainly due to the different code density of the architectures. What you see are code savings; the ram saving (which is equal on all targets) isn't visible, because it used buffer_alloc() |
| 23:17:12 | soap | thank you amiconn. |
| 23:18:23 | amiconn | So the savings are actually much larger than what you see |
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| 23:20:24 | amiconn | An instance of struct cuesheet takes almost 72KB |
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| 23:21:55 | casainho | I am getting PC jumping to strange addresses and right after going the undefined instruction vector −− here is the piece of code that is giving me porblems... I am using JTAG debug: http://pastebin.com/m1b8fdd62 |
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| 23:28:12 | saratoga | kugel: for what its worth, switching back to the OF bootloader fixed the USB detection issue i was having |
| 23:28:33 | saratoga | do you happen to know if it was a specific svn revision that introduced this problem? |
| 23:29:25 | kugel | no...the problems started when I switched to KDE actually (which was about the same time when jhMikeS committed his work) |
| 23:29:45 | kugel | I didn't change my bootloader in a while though, I have no idea how this is all connected |
| 23:33:54 | saratoga | i think something that changed in rockbox impacted USB detection in the OF, unless you've got the OF bootloader installed |
| 23:34:06 | saratoga | probably because the OF bootloader reinitializes whatever rockbox changed |
| 23:34:25 | casainho | here are two images showing the debug session and the PC on a weird address: |
| 23:34:27 | casainho | http://flickr.com/photos/43558168@N00/3242550058/sizes/o/ |
| 23:34:50 | casainho | http://flickr.com/photos/43558168@N00/3242550052/sizes/o/ |
| 23:37:13 | casainho | does anyone have any idea why that strange behaviour with this piece of code? : http://pastebin.com/m1b8fdd62 |
| 23:39:57 | bertrik | it looks like firmware/driver/serial.c contains some unused cruft |
| 23:42:19 | kugel | casainho: sectorcount and last-first should match, right? |
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| 23:43:40 | casainho | kugel: I don't really know... you think that is the problem? |
| 23:43:52 | kugel | no idea |
| 23:44:12 | kugel | maybe you put a diff instead of the snippet |
| 23:44:31 | kugel | we can't tell what you changed (and, besides, fat.c shouldn't need to be changed at all) |
| 23:44:34 | casainho | kugel: I didn't change that file!!! |
| 23:45:20 | kugel | so your sd driver seems not working correctly |
| 23:45:33 | casainho | kugel: just hapens that doing debug I can see that loop happening, and i incrementing... and if I put it on run, it jumps to that weird addrress :-( |
| 23:45:37 | kugel | or your linker script is not correct |
| 23:45:57 | amiconn | bertrik: ? |
| 23:46:26 | casainho | hmm... why do you think my SD Card driver is not working correctly? I can't understand why it could give problens... |
| 23:46:40 | bertrik | there's a dprintf function in serial.c that doesn't seem to be used |
| 23:47:55 | bertrik | e200 compiles serial.c but I doubt if it actually uses any function of it |
| 23:49:21 | amiconn | Hmm, that dprintf was originally introduced for the beast only |
| 23:49:33 | amiconn | LinusN moced it out of that #ifdef ... |
| 23:49:37 | amiconn | *moved |
| 23:50:00 | rasher | Wasn't he working on serial for pp? |
| 23:50:04 | amiconn | saratoga committed that |
| 23:50:50 | amiconn | r14812 introduced dprintf, r19585 moved it (and yes, that's the accessory protocol support commit) |
| 23:52:23 | casainho | kugel: thanks :-) −− I need to go now |
| 23:52:32 | casainho | witouth PC baterry :-(... |
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| 23:53:26 | kugel | saratoga: I'll update my bootloader |
| 23:53:37 | kugel | let's see if jhMikeS's commit changed anything |
| 23:53:45 | kugel | (to the bootloader that is) |
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