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| 00:21:27 | kugel | saratoga: hm, no problems here |
| 00:21:51 | kugel | the problems I have with usb seem to be related to either linux, or the extension cable I use (my front usb ports don't work) |
| 00:22:02 | kugel | linx/KDE |
| 00:22:13 | kugel | it works good on my (gnome) laptop |
| 00:23:32 | saratoga | kugel: odd, mine were reproducible easily with multiple PCs and cables |
| 00:25:39 | kugel | saratoga: what would be the easiest way to verify working usb? |
| 00:26:18 | kugel | I believe copying my windows 7 beta image wasn't representive at all (1 big file, instead of many small ones |
| 00:27:31 | saratoga | kugel: I guess just copy a lot of data and then md5 it |
| 00:27:32 | kugel | so, say I sync my sansa with my music collection, how would I compare them? |
| 00:27:46 | kugel | md5sum doesn't seem to work on folders |
| 00:28:05 | kugel | (I used md5 for the windows 7 beta image) |
| 00:28:18 | saratoga | i'm not sure what the best way is then |
| 00:28:34 | saratoga | i guess some sort of recursive md5 program must exist |
| 00:28:53 | saratoga | incidently, I don't understand why charger detection works fine in rockbox but not the bootloader |
| 00:29:05 | saratoga | for the sansa e200v1 |
| 00:29:14 | gevaerts | kugel: what exactly do you mean by "verify working usb"? |
| 00:29:45 | kugel | gevaerts: well, make sure no 2byte-inserted occured |
| 00:30:06 | gevaerts | kugel: that has *nothing* to do with usb... |
| 00:30:15 | kugel | I'm trying the proposed changes from 8663 |
| 00:30:34 | kugel | ah right, sorry I confused it |
| 00:33:01 | saratoga | i guess if you just need to check for disk corruption, copying a large file a few times between the SD card and internal memory would be a good way to do it |
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| 00:33:16 | saratoga | though testing that USB doesn't expose any other timing issues with the sd driver isn't a bad idea |
| 00:33:26 | saratoga | that whole driver seems like a house of cards to me |
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| 00:37:29 | kugel | saratoga: built with black magic, indeed :) |
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| 00:38:51 | saratoga | jhMikeS: [for the logs] what is the reason for using different methods to detect USB and chargers in the e200v1 for the main and bootloader builds? |
| 00:39:01 | kugel | saratoga: this Toni has commit access right? |
| 00:39:11 | saratoga | kugel: yes I believe so |
| 00:39:21 | * | gevaerts points kugel to COMMITTERS :) |
| 00:39:47 | saratoga | it seems like the main build works correctly [detects a charger and begins charging] but the bootloader does not [boots into the OF if plugged into a charger] |
| 00:39:47 | kugel | gevaerts: I'm aware of that file (still!) :) |
| 00:40:03 | saratoga | i thought he didn't and ended up commiting one of his patches the other day |
| 00:40:45 | kugel | gevaerts: 3MB/s, is that good or bad for a sansa? |
| 00:41:24 | kugel | no reset so far after 1GB |
| 00:41:41 | gevaerts | That means you're lucky. Resets are random things |
| 00:41:54 | gevaerts | kugel: it's been a while since I've looked at speed, but IIRC there's a wiki page listing some |
| 00:42:02 | linuxstb | saratoga: IIUC, the full USB detection requires the USB stack, which requires interrupts. PP bootloaders don't have interrupts enabled - not impossible, but work no-one has done. |
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| 00:43:11 | kugel | JdGordon: morning. I've run your patch a little |
| 00:43:17 | kugel | it's not more bugged than svn, it seems |
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| 00:50:48 | kugel | gevaerts: hm, comparing filesizes seems to fail. the folder on my sansa is actually less big than the one on my pc |
| 00:51:08 | kugel | I'm running diff -rua on both now, it hasn't found differences yet |
| 00:52:29 | jhMikeS | saratoga: There's no inherent dependency on detection methods built into the API between USB and charger. For USB in the bootloader, it's not setup to use interrupts and so the driver cannot be started (unless we changed something and I missed it). |
| 00:52:45 | * | gevaerts still recomends md5sum |
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| 00:53:51 | kugel | gevaerts: how to md5sum folders? |
| 00:54:11 | kugel | diff -rua didn't give any output |
| 00:54:25 | gevaerts | kugel: run "(find . -type f -print0|xargs -0 md5sum) > /tmp/sums" from within the original directory (on the PC side), and then "md5sum -c /tmp/sums" from the destination directory |
| 00:54:39 | kugel | thanks |
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| 00:55:13 | saratoga | jhMikeS: thanks for the clarification |
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| 01:03:18 | kugel | nice, every file is "Ok" :) |
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| 01:15:05 | bertrik | I see Marc Guay closed quite a few FS entries with closing reason "invalid" and no further explanation. I would like to see at least an actual reason or explanation for closing. |
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| 01:21:47 | linuxstb | bertrik: Were they all feature requests? |
| 01:21:48 | saratoga | bertrik: i think he was just closing old feature requests? |
| 01:21:55 | saratoga | too slow |
| 01:23:47 | linuxstb | bertrik: But I agree, that reasons should always be given - the original poster of those requests is unlikely to know the current context. |
| 01:24:24 | bertrik | indeed, the ones I've seen closed were all feature requests |
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| 01:36:24 | kugel | microsd to internal -> all fine |
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| 02:13:38 | kugel | internal -> microsd with music playing (i.e. changing cpu clocks) -> all fine \o/ |
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| 02:30:11 | rasher | kugel: and the other way with music playing? |
| 02:34:04 | kugel | rasher: hm, let me test |
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| 02:57:31 | kugel | rasher: fine |
| 02:57:43 | rasher | Hurray |
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| 02:59:40 | kugel | now copying back with music |
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| 03:01:31 | kugel | if that's committed, I'll wipe the stupid of forever |
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| 03:18:04 | kugel | wow, that's so great |
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| 03:33:33 | Hdaackda | is there any way I can flash my ipod's logic board (80gb video) |
| 03:34:04 | saratoga | i don't think so |
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| 03:38:14 | Unhelpful | who was it who had trouble with RB on beast? i remember Davide-NYC was one of the people with trouble... there was somebody in here yesterday who kept getting the restore screen on boot, until he tried a dual-boot rb bootloader. |
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| 04:37:56 | jhMikeS | Unhelpful: Yes, he was one. Unfortunately (fortunately?) mine never had this issue or else I could test a few things (like if some revision of the flash doesn't accept files under a certain size, etc.) |
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| 05:09:00 | Legomaniac | Hey does anyone here have experience with the sansa and recovery mode? |
| 05:09:50 | saratoga | Legomaniac: a little |
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| 05:22:33 | Legomaniac | Hey does anyone here have experience with the sansa and recovery mode? |
| 05:23:02 | tmzt | saratoga answered |
| 05:23:14 | Legomaniac | I know and he left :( |
| 05:23:18 | Legomaniac | I was in the bathroom |
| 05:24:01 | Legomaniac | so the inquiry still stands |
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| 05:33:43 | JdGordon | Legomaniac: do you actually have a question? |
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| 05:43:01 | Legomaniac | yes |
| 05:43:15 | Legomaniac | sorry, I am browsing forums at the moment as well |
| 05:43:44 | Legomaniac | I am having an issue with my sansa e260R being stuck in recovery mode |
| 05:44:09 | Legomaniac | and I am trying to follow a fix for it, but I can't find the hidden partition dump file I need |
| 05:44:25 | Legomaniac | method is here: http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33823 |
| 05:44:32 | JdGordon | first, why did you put it in recovery mode? |
| 05:45:01 | Legomaniac | because it wont boot into the original firmware or rockbox |
| 05:45:29 | Legomaniac | and I have followed all of the suggestions in the unbrick guide on the rockbox site |
| 05:45:49 | Legomaniac | and the thread I linked to at abi is exactly what I need to fix the issue |
| 05:46:08 | JdGordon | thats manufacturer mode.... not recovery mode |
| 05:46:09 | Legomaniac | and one person in a different thread said they got the process to work on their e260R |
| 05:46:37 | Legomaniac | but only because they had a healthy one to grab the hidden partition dump file they needed off of |
| 05:47:26 | Legomaniac | right, I guess saying I am stuck in recovery mode wouldn't be that accurate |
| 05:47:33 | Legomaniac | i'm just stuck with no firmware |
| 05:47:33 | Legomaniac | sorry |
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| 05:55:10 | akahhannah | JdGordon: I'm trying to patch recent builds with FS #9477 view mode tag but it fails, is there a way to make it work...different than modifying the patch? |
| 05:55:30 | JdGordon | probably not... that patch was abandoned |
| 05:55:51 | Legomaniac | that patch? |
| 05:57:18 | Legomaniac | from everything people have said in that thread ( http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33823 ) the process should fix my player, I just need the hidden partition dump file |
| 05:57:22 | Legomaniac | which I can't find anywhere |
| 05:57:58 | Legomaniac | oh, I should have read the line above |
| 05:58:16 | Legomaniac | haha, what a dumbass I am |
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| 06:00:01 | akahhannah | JdGoron: I guess I can understand why, but still sorry that new cool WPS features have been dropped |
| 06:00:03 | JdGordon | Legomaniac: I've recovered my semi-broicked e200 once before, but havent done it with a e200r and dont want to make things worse for you so i cant help... |
| 06:01:23 | Legomaniac | JdGordon: I was just hoping perhaps you knew where I could find the files I needed, because once I get them the process is explained in quite detail |
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| 11:23:14 | fml | Hello. Am I right that now it's possible to use two fonts in one WPS: the system font and the user selected font? |
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| 11:24:08 | pixelma | yes, already for a while |
| 11:26:21 | fml | pixelma: ok. The next question then: is it possible to use the "natural height" of lines to vertically stack them? I.e. I have a line using the UI font and I want to have the next line in the system font just under the previous line. Without using fixed coordinates because I don't know the size of the UI font. |
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| 11:28:30 | JdGordon | no |
| 11:28:47 | JdGordon | there was a patch which did this (sort of) but was rejected for some reason |
| 11:28:56 | JdGordon | you have to use viewports for that |
| 11:29:42 | fml | But they have fixed coords, right? I can't say "place the next vp right under the previous one". |
| 11:29:54 | pixelma | not that I know of. Well you have to use viewport definitions anyway with either 1 (for user font) or 0 (system font) so the space for the first user font part in your case is limited |
| 11:32:03 | fml | What I want to achieve is the following. I have a text only WPS. It displays the current and the next song. Above the next song, I want to place the text "Next:" using the (small) system font. But otherwise the WPS can be used with many fonts hence I wouldn't like to place fixed (x,y) there |
| 11:36:38 | pixelma | that's not possible currently afaics |
| 11:43:00 | fml | pixelma: ok |
| 11:43:12 | fml | JdGordon: how's the status bar patch doing? |
| 11:57:02 | pixelma | weird. I have a folder on my 8GB microSD where I consistently get a data abort when I start playing by selecting the first track (it fails when buffering finishes), but when I start by selecting the second track and the skip back to track one, I don't get this data abort. Comparing the file to the master on my HD shows nothing and a file system check of the microSD neither |
| 11:57:49 | pixelma | does someone have an idea what I could check for? |
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| 12:07:10 | JdGordon | fml: its finished and working... except it uses a bit of magic numbers which I'd like to turn into #defins before commiting |
| 12:09:56 | JdGordon | fml: and yeah... what you want is not something which is likely to ever happen I think...it could in theory be done, but needs a pretty big effort and its not really needed |
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| 12:16:09 | JdGordon | pixelma: wanna test this statusbar out quickly to make sure i havnt mangeled it? |
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| 12:21:54 | * | JdGordon hopes these comments are understandable.... |
| 12:23:03 | JdGordon | something for Mr. Someone.... fix rockbox and doom (And some other plugins) to not recompile all their files if only a plugin.h dependancy is changed |
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| 12:28:57 | Jaykay | gevaerts said some time ago in the community channel that there is a file where i can choose which parts of rockbox should be compiled |
| 12:29:03 | Jaykay | (or something similar) |
| 12:29:15 | Jaykay | i forgot where this file is and how its named... |
| 12:29:19 | Jaykay | can anybody help me? |
| 12:29:24 | bertrik | firmware/SOURCES probably |
| 12:29:40 | bertrik | depending on what you mean exactly |
| 12:30:39 | bertrik | You can probably also disable features in the firmware/export/config-<target>.h file by disabling #defines |
| 12:30:49 | Jaykay | we were discussing about ram usage... and he said that many things which are compiled need ram, even if i dont use these parts |
| 12:30:58 | Jaykay | so i asked for a way to disable them |
| 12:31:04 | Jaykay | (the unneded parts) |
| 12:33:45 | Jaykay | bertrik: how do i disable the defines? should i delete or comment out the lines? |
| 12:34:11 | bertrik | Jaykay, just comment them out, it doesn't really matter |
| 12:34:40 | Jaykay | what is lcd flip and tagcache? |
| 12:35:58 | bertrik | lcd flip allows you to flip the display vertically, tagcache is the database and is a big saver if you disable it |
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| 12:37:01 | JdGordon | pixelma: is the statusbar only forced on in the rec screen on targets with the radio? |
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| 12:38:24 | fml | JdGordon: I'd also force it in the FM screen since it's also not customizable |
| 12:39:06 | JdGordon | thats done currently |
| 12:39:13 | fml | JdGordon: would you put up the status bar patch so we can inspect it? |
| 12:40:03 | Jaykay | a last question: what is pitchscreen? |
| 12:40:25 | JdGordon | fml: just commited it |
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| 12:42:03 | Jaykay | sorry a second last question: is it possible to disablevoice (so that it doesnt get compiled) |
| 12:44:19 | bertrik | Jaykay, pitchscreen allows you to change pitch (probably very nicely described in the manual) and is not essential functionality, I don't know how to disable voice |
| 12:44:50 | Jaykay | sorry and thanks... |
| 12:46:05 | JdGordon | pixelma: ah, woops... forgot to mention that most plugins should have the statusbar in the menus again |
| 12:48:30 | fml | JdGordon: shouldn't viewport.c use the macro instead of (1<<(screen+4))? Also, in debug_menu.c, you use 0 as a parameter. I'd introduce a constant with an understandable name for that. |
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| 12:49:12 | JdGordon | yes, and well, 0 is good enough :p |
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| 12:49:14 | JdGordon | but yeah, probably |
| 12:50:25 | fml | JdGordon: IMHO the function viewportmanager_draw_statusbars needs more comments about what the data params means (or could be used for) |
| 12:53:02 | * | JdGordon looks forward to a patch :p |
| 12:53:34 | fml | Nothing to look forward to |
| 12:55:49 | fml | JdGordon: does viewportmanager_set_statusbar(0) mean "just respect the global settings"? |
| 12:56:07 | JdGordon | no, that means dont show it on any screens |
| 12:58:28 | JdGordon | the rec screen drawing code is a mess :( |
| 12:58:35 | fml | JdGordon: then I don't get why this is used (0 as the param). SHouldn't the setting be always respected? |
| 12:59:08 | fml | and overwritten in some cases? |
| 12:59:46 | JdGordon | some screens arnt set up to handle the automatic sb drawing so it has to be disabled |
| 12:59:53 | JdGordon | i.e plugins and debug menus |
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| 13:01:10 | fml | JdGordon: ah... But please make it a #define, e.g. NO_SCREEN or such |
| 13:01:47 | JdGordon | care to do the patch for me? i'm busy in the rec screen now |
| 13:02:54 | fml | JdGordon: please reopen the task, I'd like to aatach it there |
| 13:03:27 | JdGordon | just stick it on pastebin, or dcc/email it to me |
| 13:11:22 | fml | JdGordon: SB_ONSCREEN without IGNORE means "do what the global setting says for that screen"? |
| 13:11:34 | JdGordon | yes |
| 13:11:47 | JdGordon | if you have better names for these defines I'm open to suggestions |
| 13:14:13 | amiconn | JdGordon: Do you have an idea why the statusbar fixes cause so much more binsize increase on SH than on other targets? |
| 13:14:25 | amiconn | Especially the increase for the Player is weird |
| 13:15:17 | JdGordon | no, but ill check it out in a bit... |
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| 13:15:24 | amiconn | Also, speaking about glitches, "Follow Playlist" still doesn't work right on hwcodec. It works when browsing while playing, but not at end-of-playlist. Swcodec is ok |
| 13:15:26 | JdGordon | i did notice that and thought it was odd |
| 13:15:53 | JdGordon | amiconn: was that a general glitch notice or directed at me? |
| 13:16:48 | fml | JdGordon: does your patch correctly handle the %wd tag? I.e. I suspect that it can enforce displaying the SB but not hiding (haven't checked) |
| 13:17:18 | JdGordon | it should... |
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| 13:17:37 | JdGordon | I may have forgotten to test it explicitly though.. but it should work |
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| 13:20:00 | JdGordon | amiconn: could it have something to do with fiddling with individual bits in a char instead of an int? |
| 13:20:10 | amiconn | JdGordon: Iirc you did something regarding "Follow Playlist" recently |
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| 13:20:47 | JdGordon | well i wont have access to hwcodec for another 23 days... |
| 13:21:00 | JdGordon | assuming my recorder actually gets to lostlogic :) |
| 13:21:35 | amiconn | Define "it" |
| 13:22:21 | Jaykay | i suggest committing of the fix in http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9692 and closing this task... |
| 13:22:24 | JdGordon | the sh/cf bin increase |
| 13:22:33 | Jaykay | its a little fix for a little bug in text_editor |
| 13:22:38 | JdGordon | arm was hardly touched |
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| 13:36:47 | JdGordon | is there some broken logic in recorder.c around line 1103? |
| 13:36:59 | JdGordon | that whole if/else block seems wrong |
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| 13:38:07 | JdGordon | a screen with <4 lines uses compact mode, or a screen with >6 uses compact mode? |
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| 13:40:18 | JdGordon | sorry, i misread the logic... screens with 4 or 5 lines use compact... everything else doesnt |
| 13:40:23 | JdGordon | still doesnt make sense |
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| 13:43:59 | amiconn | linuxstb: What's the lcd colour of the logikdax? |
| 13:45:25 | Jaykay | does anyone want to commit the fix in http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9692? |
| 13:48:22 | pixelma | JdGordon: something to do with whether triggered recording is enabled or not? Just guessing though and still don't like the 2 line peakmeters on an Archos screen |
| 13:49:04 | Unhelpful | jhMikeS: well, if we know that dual-boot at least will still work, i can think about updating mine. it would be nice to be able to figure this one out, since it's probably in the way of supported status... |
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| 13:50:59 | linuxstb | amiconn: It's been so long since I used it, but I think it's black on blue. |
| 13:51:40 | amiconn | Care to find some suitable colours for the sim? (and screenshot as well, as that's what I'm working on atm) |
| 13:52:15 | BigBambi | It is black on light blue/grey, the backlight is bright blue IIRC |
| 13:52:35 | linuxstb | I'm not at home at the moment, so can't do anything today. I could probably help tomorrow night though. |
| 13:53:15 | BigBambi | amiconn: I could have a look if you like - what do you need? Just colour codes? |
| 13:53:30 | amiconn | R, G, B values, with and without backlight |
| 13:53:36 | BigBambi | OK |
| 13:54:04 | amiconn | I think we should just assume that pixel set means completely black (we do this on all positive display mono and greyscale targets so far) |
| 13:55:05 | BigBambi | amiconn: With backlight off it is the ame as the H100 |
| 13:55:33 | BigBambi | The baclight is a bit darker blue than the H100, I'll just look up a suitable colour for that |
| 13:56:05 | amiconn | Maybe like iaudio remote? |
| 13:56:22 | BigBambi | OK, I'll check that |
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| 14:00:55 | fml | JdGordon: as I supposed, %wd is not handled properly if the SB setting is set to ON |
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| 14:02:18 | * | JdGordon doesnt belive you :D |
| 14:02:46 | JdGordon | wpsbars doesnt get touched if the %wd tag is there... |
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| 14:02:54 | JdGordon | so 0 will get passed to the vpm |
| 14:03:07 | kadoban | does anyone know if the colors are inverted in the mrobe:100 simulator, or if it actually looks like that on the real thing? It seems to be the opposite of the other LCD_DEPTH == 1 sims |
| 14:03:55 | BigBambi | kadoban: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-mrobe100/rockbox-buildch3.html#x5-250003.1.1 |
| 14:04:03 | BigBambi | kadoban: That's a piccy |
| 14:05:19 | kadoban | BigBambi: I wasn't sure if that was taken with the simulator or something :) (the screen part at least) |
| 14:05:39 | BigBambi | kadoban: I think it is really like that :) |
| 14:05:55 | kadoban | BigBambi: okay, thanks |
| 14:06:21 | fml | JdGordon: try and see |
| 14:07:21 | JdGordon | :) I'm right... the bar probably doesnt get updated yeah? |
| 14:07:34 | JdGordon | booboo in the viewport_Set_defaults()... ill commit that quickly |
| 14:08:34 | JdGordon | fixed |
| 14:08:52 | * | JdGordon goes back to trying to get his head around the rec screen drawing code |
| 14:09:30 | bertrik | I think petur was the last one to do major work on the rec screen |
| 14:09:46 | BigBambi | amiconn: Do you have to hand what colour the H100 uses? |
| 14:09:57 | amiconn | uisdl.h |
| 14:10:04 | BigBambi | thanks |
| 14:10:41 | amiconn | 173, 216, 230 |
| 14:10:44 | pixelma | kadoban: yes, the m:robe100 has a kind of "inverted" display, red on black |
| 14:11:47 | kadoban | pixelma: ah, thanks for the confirmation |
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| 14:13:53 | fml | JdGordon: hrm... the fix doesn't seem to help much... |
| 14:14:01 | BigBambi | amiconn: yep, the iriver/iaudio remotes look good |
| 14:14:21 | JdGordon | fml: grrrr.... you sure? |
| 14:14:32 | Jaykay | is it normal that diasabling some things in config-e200.h causes warnings and errors while compiling? |
| 14:15:18 | JdGordon | fml: its working here... |
| 14:15:37 | kadoban | Jaykay: why are you doing that anyway? is there some benefit you're hoping to get by removing features? |
| 14:15:44 | amiconn | BigBambi: thanks |
| 14:15:55 | fml | JdGordon: let me back out my changes and check |
| 14:16:19 | Jaykay | kadoban: i think there is a reson why this file exists.... and why shouldnt i? i want to make tests with it... |
| 14:16:22 | Jaykay | *reason |
| 14:16:39 | Jaykay | anyway, that was not the question |
| 14:16:55 | kadoban | Jaykay: relax...curiosity is a valid reason, i was just asking |
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| 14:17:20 | Jaykay | ok, sorry... |
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| 14:20:13 | fml | JdGordon: checked on H120 sim. It doesn't work. |
| 14:21:26 | JdGordon | show me your .cfg |
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| 14:23:03 | fml | JdGordon: nothing special. status bar=ON, %wd in the .wps |
| 14:23:08 | JdGordon | sometyhing is TOTALY FUCKED! *something* is magically setting the viewport to NULL between a set_viewport() call and my dump line... but there is nothing between them :( |
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| 14:24:05 | Jaykay | can anybody answer my question? whether its normal that disabling something in config-e200.h causes warnings and errors while compiling... |
| 14:24:11 | JdGordon | fml: which theme? |
| 14:24:17 | kugel | Jaykay: no.. |
| 14:24:29 | kugel | oh, you disabled something |
| 14:24:38 | kugel | well, that it's possible, yes |
| 14:25:15 | fml | JdGordon: no theme. The WPS from the bug report. But now I changed %we to %wd |
| 14:25:16 | Jaykay | but... why is it possible to disable something when disabling is not working anyway? |
| 14:25:45 | JdGordon | fml: and its disblaed on both displays? or only one? |
| 14:26:25 | kugel | Jaykay: because noone has cared enough to keep the disabled version working? what are you talking about anyway? |
| 14:27:02 | kadoban | Jaykay: the feature defines in those files mostly exist to make it easier to add new targets. i imagine that nobody has tested what you're testing, so somewhere there is a dependency on the target-type which should really be a dependency on the feature you're disabling. |
| 14:27:09 | kugel | you should also do a make clean when you edited that file |
| 14:27:26 | Jaykay | i did make clean before every compiling |
| 14:27:35 | kugel | so, what's the error? |
| 14:28:19 | fml | JdGordon: ARGH::!!!&%$! I played the .Rwps file, not the WPS! Now everything is fine! |
| 14:28:37 | Jaykay | various... about 4 for each not working disabling... sometimes plus some warnings |
| 14:28:50 | JdGordon | :D |
| 14:29:01 | Jaykay | should i write some errors? |
| 14:29:14 | kugel | no, we like guessing |
| 14:29:24 | Jaykay | ok, do so |
| 14:29:25 | Jaykay | wait |
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| 14:31:23 | kugel | JdGordon: what's that screen+4 about? |
| 14:31:42 | JdGordon | bitwise nastiness... |
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| 14:32:45 | kugel | if that bits are set, it indicates that drawing is forced or something? |
| 14:33:25 | JdGordon | yes |
| 14:34:19 | Jaykay | kugel: "..firmware/libfirmware.a(button-e200.o) : in function clickwheel_int: button-e200.c : (.text+0x438) undefined reference to buttonlight_on |
| 14:34:35 | fml | JdGordon: my patch: http://pastebin.ca/1324441 |
| 14:34:55 | Jaykay | kugel: when disabling buttonlight... and something like "returned 1 exit status" and error 1 |
| 14:35:06 | Jaykay | ah and two warnings, in the same file |
| 14:35:47 | kugel | seems like buttonlight_on isn't covered with #ifdef HAVE_BUTTONLIGHT |
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| 14:36:44 | JdGordon | fml: looks ok, but why did you change everything to int? |
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| 14:38:38 | fml | JdGordon: updated patch. IMHO int is better suited for bitwise ops. |
| 14:38:46 | Jaykay | kugel: indeed.... and now? |
| 14:39:15 | kugel | now? I'm going to have a cigarette |
| 14:39:38 | kadoban | Jaykay: you'd have to go through and fix up the ifdefing if you really want to disable things like that |
| 14:39:57 | Jaykay | k... i guess its not worth fixing it? |
| 14:40:10 | kugel | Jaykay: depends. is it a bug? |
| 14:40:25 | Jaykay | i dont know... who is the developer here? |
| 14:40:42 | kugel | too many #ifdefs make the code less readable. disabling that buttonlight is not going to happen in svn anyway, so why make the code less readable? |
| 14:41:26 | Quintasan | Hi there, Dont know if this was asked before but I have problems with connecting Sansa e250 with Rockbox 3.0 installed. I'm using Ubuntu 8.10. dmesg: http://wklej.org/id/47222/ lsusb says the sansa is plugged in but I cant mount it. |
| 14:41:40 | Jaykay | ok.... |
| 14:42:02 | kugel | those defines are mainly to keep target-independent code really target-independent. the e200's button drriver is not target-independent at all anyway |
| 14:42:34 | Jaykay | kugel: btw are you still working on the fuze? |
| 14:43:04 | fml | JdGordon: will you commit the patch? Otherwise it will vanish after X days. |
| 14:43:14 | JdGordon | just commited |
| 14:44:33 | kugel | Jaykay: sure, as soon as I get some sudden inspiration, or an answer from kkurbjun regarding the mmu setup |
| 14:45:19 | Jaykay | ... |
| 14:45:21 | Jaykay | ok |
| 14:46:23 | BigBambi | Quintasan: Rockbox doesn't have a USB mode yet for the Sansa - it should reboot to the Sansa firmware when you plug in, unless you hold a button to force it to charge |
| 14:46:54 | BigBambi | You can always do this manually of course - another option would be to upgrade to the current build and se if the problem persists |
| 14:48:08 | Quintasan | BigBambi: Yeah, It does the reboot part. It rebuild the database, then I need to unplug and plug back the cable becuase it doesnt knows there is a cable after database refresh and says Connected for several seconds the it says Disconnected etc. |
| 14:48:24 | BigBambi | That is the Sansa OF doing that |
| 14:48:42 | BigBambi | Not much we can do about it |
| 14:49:45 | Quintasan | :/ |
| 14:50:05 | Quintasan | So how can I update rockbox? |
| 14:50:29 | BigBambi | rbutil is the easiest way, or you can just unzip a new build to the root of your Sansa |
| 14:50:42 | Quintasan | BigBambi: thats the problem |
| 14:50:53 | BigBambi | what is? |
| 14:51:01 | Quintasan | I cant mount it. How I'm supposed to copy files without mounting the player? |
| 14:51:13 | BigBambi | Oh, I see |
| 14:51:30 | BigBambi | I'd boot it to the Sansa firmware not plugged in, then plug it in and see what happens |
| 14:51:43 | Quintasan | Check out my dmesg :P |
| 14:51:54 | Quintasan | I'll give it a shot |
| 14:52:29 | BigBambi | Quintasan: Oh |
| 14:52:36 | BigBambi | Quintasan: I didn't look at that before |
| 14:52:42 | BigBambi | Quintasan: Doesn't look brilliant |
| 14:52:51 | Quintasan | Wow, I like the AmaroK theme |
| 14:52:55 | Quintasan | lol it worked |
| 14:52:55 | BigBambi | Perhaps try another cable - it is sometimes that |
| 14:53:01 | BigBambi | \o/ |
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| 14:53:47 | Quintasan | I had two cables one from sansa e250 and from c200 which I broke. Maybe the cable was screwed up |
| 14:54:37 | fml | He-he, build stuck |
| 14:55:15 | fml | Oh, complete now |
| 14:55:57 | Quintasan | hmm rbutil says newest is 3.0, I guess I just unpack it :P |
| 14:56:09 | BigBambi | or get new rbutil |
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| 14:56:31 | BigBambi | but if you are capable of one line in the terminal then unzipping is nlt hard :) |
| 14:56:38 | BigBambi | *isn't |
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| 14:56:42 | Jaykay | again i suggest commiting of the fix in http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9692... a fix for a little bug in text_editor |
| 14:57:38 | Quintasan | BigBambi: the x64 build is outdated |
| 14:58:22 | BigBambi | Quintasan: You could build it yourself, but unzipping would seem easier |
| 14:59:24 | Quintasan | BigBambi: If I build it I can send binary to someone? The x86 works fine for me :D |
| 14:59:41 | BigBambi | If you build it statically etc |
| 14:59:54 | BigBambi | Then yeah, I'm sure that would be appreciated |
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| 15:00:05 | BigBambi | I think there are instructions on the wiki for static building |
| 15:00:17 | BigBambi | Also not that it'd want to be a tagged version in svn |
| 15:00:31 | BigBambi | Best to speak to bluebrother or domonoky about that |
| 15:01:59 | JdGordon | hmm... changing to int fixed up the cf delta a bit... didnt touch sh though |
| 15:02:17 | Quintasan | BigBambi: there is a ready command for static compiling ^^ |
| 15:02:25 | BigBambi | er, *note that it'd want to be tagged above |
| 15:02:29 | kugel | JdGordon: weird, isn't it? ;) |
| 15:02:54 | JdGordon | more annoying than wierd :p |
| 15:02:55 | kugel | seems like cf is more int focused |
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| 15:03:20 | kugel | I think I noticed similar things when changing the pitchscreen to use int instead of short |
| 15:03:34 | n1s | JdGordon: it could be that it needs some support routine now iirc Unhelpful hit a similar thing with the scaler |
| 15:04:01 | kugel | also, bit shifting seems to be rather expensive on sh |
| 15:04:14 | n1s | something about sh not having a variable shift instruction or something |
| 15:04:32 | JdGordon | im only doing constant shifts though |
| 15:04:40 | kugel | n1s: hm, I think that disappeared using unsigned, not sure though |
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| 15:05:23 | n1s | JdGordon: 1<<screen looks pretty variable to me |
| 15:06:16 | n1s | anyway it should be easy to spot if you compare map files |
| 15:06:26 | JdGordon | ah, yeah... forgot about that :p |
| 15:07:08 | kugel | http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev;revision=19399 |
| 15:08:53 | kugel | so, 1u << screen should already help, it seems |
| 15:12:07 | n1s | comparing maps shows that after your change viewport.o is linked to ___ashrsi3 for SH so, these shifts are indeed the cause |
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| 15:18:28 | kugel | n1s: tested if using 1u avoids that? |
| 15:18:42 | n1s | kugel, no but i can |
| 15:18:58 | JdGordon | this is all for the sake of like 100 bytes..... |
| 15:19:12 | kugel | :) |
| 15:19:34 | kugel | worth it, if it's only 1 line to change imo |
| 15:20:19 | n1s | yep, that fixed it dropped ~120bytes |
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| 15:20:33 | n1s | should i commit? |
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| 15:21:09 | JdGordon | if you really want to |
| 15:21:37 | kugel | why not? |
| 15:22:02 | kugel | unless the sign is an issue, reclaiming binsize is always nice |
| 15:22:57 | kugel | JdGordon: didn't you have plans to kick hwcodec out? you don't need to worry then anymore :D |
| 15:24:02 | kugel | at least not about signed shifts :/ |
| 15:24:09 | JdGordon | I certainly wont be upset if we ever do go that route... although I finally bought a archos rec so i might change my mind |
| 15:25:17 | n1s | kugel: this has nothing to do with the actual hwcodec though, just the cpu, maybe we'll get other SH based targets in the future |
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| 15:26:03 | kugel | n1s: possibly, but I doubt it somehow |
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| 15:30:02 | kugel | n1s: you didn't commit yet, did you? |
| 15:30:12 | n1s | i did |
| 15:30:46 | n1s | r1899 |
| 15:30:53 | n1s | eh 19899 |
| 15:31:50 | kugel | n1s: you seem to hit enter as I asked you ;) |
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| 15:47:13 | plas79ks | hows it going everyone |
| 15:47:40 | kadoban | plas79ks: pretty good, yourself? |
| 15:47:58 | plas79ks | not too bad. had a question that i cant seem to find the answer on |
| 15:48:11 | plas79ks | can you install rockbox on a 120 gig ipod classic? |
| 15:48:31 | n1s | no, and the answer to that can be found easily on the frontpage |
| 15:48:31 | kadoban | plas79ks: unfortunately, no. only the players listed on the main page are supported |
| 15:49:09 | plas79ks | damn |
| 15:49:26 | plas79ks | kadoban, do you know if they plan on developing a build for the classic at all? |
| 15:49:37 | plas79ks | or is there something similar to rockbox that can be installed? |
| 15:50:16 | kadoban | plas79ks: there's about a million forum threads about that, but the short answer is that nobody is working on it as far as i know |
| 15:50:28 | scorche | plas79ks: we dont make plans for new ports...new ports happen when people come forward with the capability, time, motivation, and the device itself to make a port |
| 15:51:36 | plas79ks | right on, well thanks for the help everyone |
| 15:51:39 | plas79ks | have a good day |
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| 15:51:42 | plas79ks | peace |
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| 15:59:59 | Guest65378 | « Un saluto a tutto il canale! » |
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| 16:04:24 | scorche | Guest65378: hi...this is an english channel... |
| 16:04:45 | Guest65378 | itala |
| 16:05:07 | scorche | english |
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| 16:14:03 | Eufouria | Hello |
| 16:15:03 | Eufouria | I'm looking for some help related to an ipod project |
| 16:15:44 | scorche | well, this channel is for rockbox topics only, so if it isnt rockbox related, it probably belongs somewhere else... |
| 16:15:47 | Jaykay | eufoiria: if its also related to rockbox, just ask |
| 16:16:07 | Eufouria | I was wondering if it would be possible to flash a version of rockbox directly onto the ipod mainboard |
| 16:16:20 | scorche | why would you want to? |
| 16:16:38 | Eufouria | so that i wouldnt need a hard drive, it's complicated |
| 16:16:55 | scorche | you would still need a hard drive or something else.. |
| 16:17:07 | Jaykay | without a hard drive you could hardly hear music |
| 16:17:07 | Eufouria | for... |
| 16:17:29 | Eufouria | truthfully I'm building an ipod that will store my weed |
| 16:17:35 | scorche | .... |
| 16:17:38 | scorche | yeah, no |
| 16:17:42 | Eufouria | haha |
| 16:17:50 | scorche | you will still need a storage medium |
| 16:18:01 | Eufouria | what about the apple bootloader |
| 16:18:24 | kadoban | what about it? |
| 16:18:32 | Eufouria | could that be overwritten? |
| 16:19:00 | Eufouria | perhaps a very simple screen lock program that once the correct code was entered would initiate the hard drive? |
| 16:19:14 | Eufouria | I'm planning on using the spindle motor as the locking mechanism |
| 16:19:37 | scorche | this doesnt belong in #rockbox anymore...there are other places you can take this... |
| 16:19:47 | Eufouria | rockbox-community? |
| 16:19:55 | scorche | that will work |
| 16:20:02 | Eufouria | alright thanks |
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| 16:57:45 | Jaykay | another try: i suggest committing of the fix in http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9692..... its a fix for a sall bug in text_editor |
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| 17:02:43 | bertrik | ok, the gigabeat s does appear to be the only rockbox target with an FM tuner that supports RDS |
| 17:08:42 | Unhelpful | n1s: the problem was that a couple of the sh targets used the signed right shift routine elsewhere, and the scaler merge removed it from the bitmap loader. this resulted in a much larger apparent binsize gain in the the targets that retained the signed right shift. amicann figured out how to get rid of it, i believe. |
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| 17:10:19 | n1s | Unhelpful: ah, right. that signed right shift thing got back in with JdGordon's commit but i found amiconn's fix and applied it again |
| 17:10:27 | n1s | (in a different place) |
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| 17:11:19 | Unhelpful | another 1 << n where it was right-shifting the rest of the expression instead? |
| 17:13:26 | n1s | yeah, this is the change so it must be that http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/apps/gui/viewport.h?r1=19898;r2=19899;pathrev=19899 |
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| 17:21:52 | BigBambi | bertrik: Has it been confirmed on an S that it is present/works? |
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| 17:22:47 | bertrik | BigBambi, no, but the chip/device id registers indicates that it has an si4701 chip, which supports RDS |
| 17:23:05 | BigBambi | cool |
| 17:23:24 | bertrik | I think it should be easy to enable RDS on the si4701 (it's disabled by default) and see if any RDS data comes in |
| 17:23:47 | bertrik | then later we can start trying to decode the data and do something useful with it |
| 17:23:58 | BigBambi | yeah, one step at a time :) |
| 17:24:21 | BigBambi | well, I'm not much good at anything but guinea pigging, so if needed let me kow :) |
| 17:24:28 | BigBambi | *know |
| 17:25:10 | bertrik | The beast OF doesn't do anything with it, right? |
| 17:25:38 | BigBambi | Don't think so, but the beast OF is long since gone so I can't check :) |
| 17:25:52 | BigBambi | I certainly don't remember it doing anything |
| 17:26:00 | bertrik | BigBambi, are you ready for a little test right now? |
| 17:26:07 | BigBambi | sure |
| 17:26:38 | bertrik | ok, I'll make a simple proof-of-concept patch to see if any RDS data comes in at all |
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| 17:26:54 | BigBambi | Ok, cool |
| 17:29:38 | bertrik | BigBambi, can you apply this patch: http://pastebin.ca/1324572 then go to the radio screen, pick a strong station that has RDS and go to the radio debug screen ? |
| 17:29:39 | pixelma | I thought n1s already tried? Could be remembering wrong though... |
| 17:30:18 | bertrik | the numbers in the bottom of the radio debug screen should have varying data |
| 17:30:24 | BigBambi | bertrik: will do (I have to find a list of radio stations with RDS first - I'm assuming it is used in France) |
| 17:31:05 | bertrik | pixelma, I know nothing of any beast RDS experiment done yet |
| 17:33:05 | BigBambi | bertrik: I get "patch unexpectedly ends in middle of line " - I assume I can ignore that? |
| 17:35:38 | bertrik | hmm, weird, it patched fine here. It's just two lines, could you copy them over manually? |
| 17:36:15 | n1s | bertrik, pixelma: i never tried it but jhMikeS said he accidentally enabled it and got some data in those regs |
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| 17:36:42 | BigBambi | bertrik: Yes, no problem |
| 17:39:32 | BigBambi | bertrik: the last three on the bottom line are changing all the time, and the three before those more slowly |
| 17:39:41 | bertrik | cool |
| 17:40:00 | BigBambi | Only when I have good reception too :) |
| 17:40:26 | bertrik | can you take a few photos of it? I think we should be able to tell if that data makes any sense even from those 4 numbers |
| 17:41:11 | BigBambi | bertrik; will try :) |
| 17:41:17 | BigBambi | also, I just found http://ybphoto.free.fr/elec/rds/rds.htm |
| 17:41:40 | bertrik | having changing data on the bottom line probably means that it works BTW ;) |
| 17:42:11 | BigBambi | awesome :) |
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| 17:47:55 | BigBambi | bertrik: http://aeparker.com/stuff/ |
| 17:48:17 | bertrik | RDS data comes in at 1187.5 bps, I don't know if/how the fm chip makes sure that the 4 words belong to one message if we read it out slower than that |
| 17:49:13 | * | BigBambi has no idea :) |
| 17:49:43 | bertrik | we'll just have to find out, thanks for the screendumps, I'll have a look in half an hour or so |
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| 17:50:10 | BigBambi | no probs - I'm going out in a bit but will be in and around as usual to play with stuff if needs be :) |
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| 17:55:19 | * | linuxstb googles and sees the Zune apparently supports RDS and shows song info when transmitted, but the S doesn't seem to |
| 17:56:36 | BigBambi | Even just station names would be incredibly good |
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| 17:56:57 | BigBambi | But no, in my very brief play with the beast OF I don't remember them being there |
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| 17:58:59 | linuxstb | Unsurprisingly, it seems the Zune has the si4701 FM tuner as well |
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| 19:02:55 | bertrik | BigBambi, the RDS data makes sense :) |
| 19:03:19 | bertrik | next step is to code a crude RDS decoder in the debug screen I think |
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| 19:22:03 | kadoban | i notice that in the virtual keyboard, there's a lot of space wasted on the bottom. instead of wrapping the input and using multiple lines, it just goes off the screen to the left or right. is there some setting that i'm missing to get it to use multiple lines? if not, is there any reason that this wouldn't be a good idea? |
| 19:22:25 | FlynDice | anyone got a good way I can test the rec button for an e280v2? |
| 19:25:16 | pixelma | kadoban: which target are you on? |
| 19:25:25 | kadoban | pixelma: sorry, e200 |
| 19:26:47 | pixelma | I'm sorry too, didn't see the "input" in your statement |
| 19:27:18 | kadoban | ah, i see |
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| 19:28:28 | kugel | FlynDice: if you keep it pressed you get into the recoding mode |
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| 19:37:27 | FlynDice | will the v2 go into the recording mode? |
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| 19:49:29 | kugel | FlynDice: hm, probably not without recoding capabilities :/ |
| 19:49:48 | bertrik | does simplelist_addline support "%8s" format (%s with a length specifier)? |
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| 19:53:23 | kugel | FlynDice: you can try keeping the rec button pressed during boot, so that settings are reset |
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| 19:54:58 | bertrik | BigBambi, around to test another patch? |
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| 19:57:13 | bertrik | anyone with a beast up for an RDS test? |
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| 19:59:57 | kugel | bertrik: do you plan to commit sansa ams radio soon? |
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| 20:00:37 | kugel | maybe I don't understand the problem enough, but why is it keeping the patch back? |
| 20:02:02 | bertrik | I think the patch is now pretty OK, but I need to check if it doesn't increase binsize for a few other targets |
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| 20:12:01 | kugel | bertrik: best way to check that is to ask the build table :) |
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| 20:26:01 | BdN3504 | hey i have a cowon iaudio m3 beside me right now and have used the rbqutil to install RB 3.1 but the device doesn't load rb. instead it just boots into its native firmware. |
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| 20:42:23 | Unhelpful | RDS |
| 20:43:24 | bluebrother | BdN3504: have you checked if it put the firmware file in the correct location? |
| 20:44:34 | bertrik | Unhelpful, can you try this patch: http://pastebin.ca/1324721 then go to the radio, select a strong station that probably has RDS, then go to the radio screen and look at the debug info |
| 20:45:08 | Unhelpful | happy to now, i was attempting to search the backlog to see if you linked the patch |
| 20:45:09 | bertrik | radio screen -> radio debug screen |
| 20:45:22 | Unhelpful | how does one get to radio debug? |
| 20:45:59 | bertrik | system / debug / fm radio |
| 20:46:20 | BdN3504 | i don't know where the correct location is |
| 20:47:10 | bluebrother | well, have you checked where the firmware file gets saved? |
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| 20:48:47 | Unhelpful | bertrik: isn't RDS the european system? or is this expected to work for... whatever it is we have in the US? |
| 20:49:00 | * | gevaerts will test |
| 20:49:08 | BdN3504 | i am reading a helpful forum thread right now, i think i'll get it done |
| 20:49:17 | bertrik | oh, wasn't aware of that, US uses RDBS which should be mostly compatible |
| 20:49:48 | bluebrother | well, I'm quite interested if Rockbox Utility puts the file in the wrong location ... |
| 20:50:23 | Unhelpful | well, i'll try anyway :D |
| 20:50:33 | bertrik | RDBS -> RBDS |
| 20:51:22 | bertrik | here's a nice article about the differences: http://www.rds.org.uk/rdsfrdsrbds.html |
| 20:52:08 | BdN3504 | works, thanks for the help bluebrother |
| 20:52:14 | * | bluebrother can't see anything possibly wrong ... |
| 20:52:27 | bluebrother | BdN3504: can you be a bit more specific? Did it work using Rockbox Utility? |
| 20:52:40 | bluebrother | or any other method (and which?) |
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| 20:58:17 | BdN3504 | yes it did work with rockbox utility, i just had to get the charger to make the firmware upgrade. |
| 20:58:38 | bluebrother | ok. Didn't Rockbox Utility display a note about the charger? |
| 20:59:01 | BdN3504 | yes it did. i have a question now, though: how do i exit the quick screen on this target? |
| 20:59:24 | bluebrother | sorry, no idea about that. I was just wondering if you hit a bug in Rockbox Utility ;-) |
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| 21:02:13 | gevaerts | bertrik: I get data out of it that looks plausible |
| 21:02:46 | bertrik | gevaerts, you see valid ascii text? |
| 21:03:45 | gevaerts | bertrik: yes. It's a bit unstable (some characters change now and then), but my reception isn't very good |
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| 21:05:25 | bertrik | cool, RDS can send only 4 characters per frame and updates these in a larger text buffer. There's no error check yet in the debug code. |
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| 21:08:39 | ubunturules | hi |
| 21:09:23 | kadoban | hi |
| 21:09:53 | BdN3504 | erm i just looked at the wiki for the iaudio targets and there it says the power handling is only 10%. is this device really capable of running rockbox? i don't know how to charge the device. if i plug in the ac connecter, it automatically let's the device power up and boot rockbox. |
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| 21:11:23 | BdN3504 | and if i turn the device off, while the ac charger is still plugged, the backlight won't turn off until i disconnect the charger |
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| 21:20:29 | linuxrocks | What is flawed about the memory on Sansa Fuz |
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| 21:23:12 | gevaerts | linuxrocks: what do you mean? |
| 21:23:50 | Unhelpful | bertrik: at least one station so far is showing its name in PS and RT in debug |
| 21:25:05 | Unhelpful | this one appears to have artist title callsign in RT, and a scrolling version of that (by pushing updates) in PS |
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| 21:25:19 | linuxrocks | on the status page for v2s it says that the fuzes internal and external storage is flawed |
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| 21:26:40 | linuxrocks | i want to try out rockbox on the fuze without harming it |
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| 21:27:58 | scorche | the fuze port is not complete yet and is unsupported, so be warned...the port is mostly for developers only at the moment |
| 21:28:16 | Unhelpful | does your patch (or printf itself?) substitute periods for unprintables? |
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| 21:29:35 | Unhelpful | this station shows "MIX 10.." in PS and "......67..........." in RT... and yes, it's 106.7 |
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| 21:39:02 | bertrik | Unhelpful, it prints periods for characters that have not been received yet. It's a bit weird though that the PS (programme service) and RT (radio text). |
| 21:39:41 | bertrik | some frames cause the strings to be invalidated |
| 21:39:56 | Unhelpful | it really seems it got split somehow... it works ok for other stations, many of them seem to scroll data in PS |
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| 21:43:11 | bertrik | the RDS data comes in blocks of 4 x 16 bits, but I don't know how to tell if we get a complete consistent block or possibly a mix of bits from two different RDS frames |
| 21:43:34 | bertrik | so that may explain texts getting mixed up |
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| 21:46:36 | bertrik | Unhelpful, do you see anything meaningful in PTYN or ITEM? does PI have a stable value? |
| 21:47:33 | Unhelpful | make me look again, eh? ;) |
| 21:50:23 | Unhelpful | PTYN is always empty, so far. ITEM has had some numbers, i have no idea what they're supposed to represent. PI is stable on channels where i'm getting good data for RT/PS... some have corruption in RT/PS, and PI keeps changing, possibly it's just bad reception? |
| 21:51:01 | bertrik | I think PI should a fixed unique number for a specific station |
| 21:52:11 | bertrik | the ITEM code encodes for day-hour:minutes, not sure exactly of what (current time or start time of program) |
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| 22:29:32 | WPSCoder | i just tried it and it works like i thought... %?St|show files|<All|Supported|Music|Playlists> |
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| 22:47:52 | * | pixelma hopes BdN3504 found the charging trick for the Iaudio M3 in the forums |
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| 23:32:15 | Legomaniac | hey, does anyone know where I could get a hidden partition dump file for a sansa e260R? |
| 23:34:28 | Bagder | you can convert it to a vanilla, do the dump and then convert it back! ;-) |
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| 23:36:05 | Legomaniac | how do I convert it to a vanilla? |
| 23:36:49 | Bagder | well, that's not a journey I recommend without very very carefully considering first, and reading up on how these things work |
| 23:37:13 | Bagder | you can convert it by flashing a "standard" bootloader to the sansa |
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| 23:37:57 | Legomaniac | well, I have read a thread at the anything but ipod forums outlines the method I need to fix my issue |
| 23:38:03 | Legomaniac | but I just need the file |
| 23:38:18 | Legomaniac | url: http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33823 |
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| 23:40:08 | Bagder | ah right, that also describes how to make such a fs dump with e200tool |
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| 23:42:38 | Legomaniac | but the poster of the thread also said that he needed a healthy file to put onto his bricked sansa |
| 23:42:44 | Legomaniac | " You will need a hidden partition dump file to execute this step. For a e260v1 with 4GB memory, i used the one found here " |
| 23:42:52 | Legomaniac | and then gives a link |
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| 23:43:17 | Legomaniac | but I don't think that linked file will work with my sansa because mine is an R series |
| 23:44:11 | Legomaniac | and someone who had an e260R said they got that process to work, but only because they had a healthy e260R to make the dump file from |
| 23:44:48 | Bagder | oh the hidden partition is indeed different between a vanilla and an R |
| 23:45:06 | Bagder | the bootloader is stored there, and they are significantly different |
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| 23:46:09 | Legomaniac | good, so it's probably a good thing I didn't try his method with that file |
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| 23:46:41 | Legomaniac | I just need to try his method with a dump file from another e2x0R |
| 23:46:43 | Bagder | e200tool would still be able to rescue you |
| 23:48:07 | Legomaniac | how? |
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| 23:54:05 | Bagder | manufacture mode |
| 23:55:34 | Legomaniac | right |
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| 23:56:02 | Legomaniac | and the turorial I found to unbrick my sansa uses manufacturer mode |
| 23:56:34 | Legomaniac | but that still doesn't change the fact that I need the hidden partition dump file that he got off of daniel's website |
| 23:56:54 | Legomaniac | and I can't find one for an R series player |
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| 23:57:50 | Bagder | well, dumping that fs is a very very unusual way to unbrick |
| 23:57:58 | Bagder | in fact I haven't even seen it before |
| 23:58:16 | Legomaniac | well all the other unbrick methods have failed for me |
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| 23:58:39 | Legomaniac | and I have read someone with my same issue and my same player have that method work for them |
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