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| 00:03:53 | kugel | FlynDice: ping |
| 00:04:12 | FlynDice | kugel: pong |
| 00:04:45 | kugel | FlynDice: can you test FS #10120 + using the Fuze's scrollwheel function? |
| 00:05:06 | kugel | sko reported it works nicely |
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| 00:05:46 | FlynDice | sure give me a few minutes to tie some thing up |
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| 00:44:54 | bertrik | kugel, what is wrong with your clip radio? |
| 00:48:25 | | Part Keripo |
| 00:51:58 | kugel | bertrik: doesn't pick up the stations |
| 00:52:12 | kugel | like, nothing in the 100MHz+ region |
| 00:52:57 | kugel | well, I'm not surprised, it's apprarently physically broken somehow anywa |
| 00:52:59 | kugel | y |
| 00:54:43 | bertrik | there is also a frequency (96 MHz IIRC) that the radio would tune to that is a multiple of the crystal clock and appears like a completely silent station |
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| 00:55:40 | bertrik | and I think there's a bug when you try to change a radio setting when the radio hasn't been powered up yet |
| 00:56:07 | kugel | it worked fine some time ago, and it always worked fine on my ex-fuze |
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| 01:04:42 | FlynDice | kugel: FS #10120 works very nicely for me |
| 01:05:21 | kugel | with or without Fuze's scrollwheel? |
| 01:05:28 | kugel | scrollwheel function, that is |
| 01:06:15 | FlynDice | the last patch that's posted, let me go look |
| 01:07:57 | FlynDice | scrolllwheel-polling-v2b.diff |
| 01:08:49 | FlynDice | you want me to try with the patch sko posted also? |
| 01:12:49 | kugel | try to use the fue's scrollwheel function please |
| 01:13:06 | kugel | that's in neither patch |
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| 01:20:56 | FlynDice | kugel: Ok I'll give it a shot later and see how it works. Heading out for festivities in a few. |
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| 01:30:10 | demmon | i have philips hdd6230 gogear and i saw there is rockbox for olympus m-rome looks almost the same as mine :) will it work |
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| 01:33:08 | rasher | demmon: Rockbox has been ported to a few of the other gogear devices, but hdd6230 doesn't appear to be one of them |
| 01:33:28 | rasher | It doesn't run completely reliably on any of them though |
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| 01:46:57 | froggyman | I have some DRM AAC music that i want to play on my rockboxed iPod, whats the recomended way of converting them? |
| 01:47:18 | rasher | There is none. |
| 01:47:57 | froggyman | ohh, so i would basicly have to burn it to a CD then and re rip it? |
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| 01:48:29 | rasher | You're on your own. |
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| 01:48:55 | froggyman | ohh ok |
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| 01:57:48 | froggyman | why are so many patches in the flyspray left un attended and out of sync for several years instead of being removed or put back into sync? |
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| 02:00:35 | rasher | froggyman: because the authors don't keep them up to date. We generally don't close them unless the function they performs is added to Rockbox or deemed unwanted |
| 02:03:28 | froggyman | ohh ok makes sense |
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| 02:06:53 | froggyman | sorry for so many questions, but why does the apple firmaware for the iPod seem to take way longer to load even compared to it being turned through the diagnostics |
| 02:08:19 | dreamlayers | froggyman: I don't know what you mean by "it being turned through the diagnostics". |
| 02:09:31 | JdGordon | dreamlayers: hey, i've been afk fgor a few days so completly out of it... have you had any more luck with the progress bar not getting updated problem? |
| 02:09:40 | dreamlayers | On the 5G the diagnostics are small and in flash. The OF needs to be loaded from disk, and then it needs to load the database. The OF is much bigger than Rockbox. |
| 02:09:54 | JdGordon | I've just read your comment from friday so ill have a look in that area a bit |
| 02:10:07 | dreamlayers | JdGordon: Yes, I found out what was going on and I have a solution. I just don't know if it is the right solution. |
| 02:10:10 | froggyman | like it being in hibernate, and you can actually shut it off through an optiong in the diagnostics (so its not in standby) |
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| 02:10:26 | froggyman | sorry for that confusion |
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| 02:12:35 | yashwa7 | Hi all, I'm a GSoC applicant needing a little bit of help for my task. |
| 02:13:11 | yashwa7 | I setup the rockbox with cygwin, built it and am able to run with the simulator. |
| 02:13:47 | yashwa7 | For my task, I need to write a new codec which outputs silence samples for 10 seconds. |
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| 02:14:25 | yashwa7 | I just followed the wiki section for writing a new codec and rebuilt the codebase. |
| 02:15:05 | yashwa7 | However when I run a sample file (sample.yash) it just comes out after some time without running my codec. |
| 02:15:43 | motionman95 | What method do you guys use to test your plugins? Do you just copy them over to your players, (which I think takes forever!) or do you use something else, like the simulator? |
| 02:15:45 | * | gevaerts has never done codec work before, so he can't really help |
| 02:16:11 | yashwa7 | I use the simulator. |
| 02:16:20 | gevaerts | motionman95: both I think. It probably depends on personal taste |
| 02:17:03 | froggyman | motionman95: what one were you thinking of writing, or are you still undecided |
| 02:18:46 | dreamlayers | yashwa7: Is your metadata function being called? |
| 02:19:13 | yashwa7 | Yep, it's getting called. |
| 02:19:46 | yashwa7 | Because when I'm on the previous track, it displayed NEXT TRACK : "Codec works". |
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| 02:20:09 | yashwa7 | where "codec works" is the title I set in my metadate function. |
| 02:20:14 | yashwa7 | and just return true |
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| 02:20:57 | JdGordon | gevaerts: you dont like the wps idea in the touchscreen wiki page? |
| 02:22:51 | yashwa7 | I am wondering how to use the DEBUGF statements.... |
| 02:23:47 | JdGordon | DEBUGF is the same as printf for sim builds |
| 02:24:01 | yashwa7 | Ok, thanx. |
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| 02:25:09 | gevaerts | JdGordon: the way described there is a good fallback, but a lot of actions that are possible from the wps have a corresponding icon, so I think it should be possible to do things like pausing by touching the play/pause icon |
| 02:25:40 | gevaerts | or actually, I think it should be possible to do that automatically, without adding extra tags |
| 02:26:03 | kugel | using viewports for this seems ideal |
| 02:26:09 | gevaerts | Not everything is possible in this way, but a lot of it is |
| 02:26:17 | JdGordon | sure, but how on earth do we find out which rectangle has the play icon? and what happens when the wps doesnt have the icon at all? |
| 02:26:20 | kugel | then other screens can be adabted too |
| 02:26:48 | JdGordon | using viewports is a bad idea because it means breaking compatability with other targets with the same lcd size |
| 02:26:57 | kugel | not at all |
| 02:27:22 | kugel | also, we don't care about that as of now either |
| 02:27:32 | JdGordon | since when? |
| 02:27:40 | kugel | wps which use rtc tags won't work on targets without rtc |
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| 02:27:52 | JdGordon | thats different |
| 02:27:57 | kugel | how? |
| 02:28:08 | JdGordon | and by the way... the RTC tags ARE there for that very reason |
| 02:28:20 | kugel | same resolution, but still incompatible, that's the same |
| 02:28:34 | gevaerts | JdGordon: whatever is shown in %mp has a bounding box, so you can use that. If the icon isn't there, you can use explicit areas |
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| 02:29:16 | kugel | viewports can a) take a additional parameter (which can possibly ignored on non-touchscreen for compability), or tag it in the definition |
| 02:29:29 | * | kugel adds a b) before "or" |
| 02:29:30 | JdGordon | %mp is just a variable to say the play status... it is usually used in a conditional, but that conditional could be showing a image, or enabling a viewport, or just doing text... way too complicated to figure it out |
| 02:30:18 | gevaerts | hm, yes. If it's an image or text it should work, but viewports are tricky |
| 02:30:19 | kugel | backwards compability isn't an issue anyway, touchscreens usually have a way higher resolution than non-touchscreen ones |
| 02:30:34 | gevaerts | kugel: D2 is the same as ipod 5G |
| 02:30:51 | JdGordon | and beast if we allow both orientations |
| 02:31:23 | kugel | "usually" :p |
| 02:31:54 | kugel | how come we start to care about cross-target compability of wpses? |
| 02:32:00 | kugel | viewports are still ideal, imo |
| 02:32:25 | gevaerts | JdGordon: this %R tag (to use the TouchpadInterface naming) would work in viewport context I guess? |
| 02:32:53 | motionman95 | Just to clarify on this Simulator thing, I can just run "make" and use the output .rock in the Sim? |
| 02:33:18 | JdGordon | I'm not sure... it doesnt really make sense to have it relative to viewports... I would just have %R use the full screen |
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| 02:33:43 | JdGordon | motionman95: if you have used configure to make a simulator targte than yes |
| 02:33:51 | JdGordon | make && make install to so it properly |
| 02:34:01 | JdGordon | s/so/do |
| 02:34:21 | kugel | everything is relative to viewports, why should %R not be= |
| 02:34:23 | kugel | ? |
| 02:34:37 | JdGordon | viewports are for DISPLAY! |
| 02:34:48 | gevaerts | Using screen coordinates would make some things very awkward to do, like e.g. a popup with buttons (similar to the D2 OF), or a WPS that has different icon positions depending on whether there is AA |
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| 02:35:55 | JdGordon | wont that just be confusing? |
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| 02:36:58 | gevaerts | possibly, but we don't have a rule against confusing WPSes |
| 02:37:27 | JdGordon | true |
| 02:37:39 | JdGordon | seen as the whole thing is still an idea we can do whatever |
| 02:37:54 | JdGordon | I just thing adding more params to the exsisting viewport tags are a bad idea |
| 02:38:27 | gevaerts | Also, working in viewport coordinates makes things easier for the WPS authors I think, as they can just copy other coordinates |
| 02:39:35 | JdGordon | fair enough |
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| 02:40:39 | kugel | making %R the only thing not relative to viewports will be confusing too |
| 02:40:55 | * | gevaerts goes wild for a moment |
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| 02:41:48 | gevaerts | If you don't restrict %R to the normal actions, you could have it set custom variables (booleans) that could be used as conditionals elsewhere |
| 02:42:28 | * | JdGordon 's head explodes! |
| 02:42:34 | JdGordon | setting custom vars?! |
| 02:42:38 | JdGordon | normal actions?! |
| 02:43:07 | gevaerts | things like this mode tag you built a while ago (the one that triggered one of the many custom-buttons flamewars) |
| 02:43:53 | JdGordon | that was well and truley killed wasnt it? |
| 02:44:20 | gevaerts | Yes, but on a touchscreen you aren't redefining an existing button :) |
| 02:44:33 | JdGordon | which is also a supposed nono :p |
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| 02:47:31 | gevaerts | Basically a touchscreen has an infinite (or nearly) amount of buttons, and unlike normal buttons they are very context-dependent, so I don't see a good reason to have the same aversion for creative button-use as on non-touchscreen targets |
| 02:50:23 | yashwa7 | Hi, I'm involved in writing a dummy codec, and have got stuck. |
| 02:50:54 | dreamlayers | yashwa7: Was DEBUGF helpful? |
| 02:51:17 | yashwa7 | After I added DEBUGF, I started seeing simulator crashes. |
| 02:51:35 | yashwa7 | The DEBUGF statement is not allowed inside metadata function. |
| 02:51:55 | yashwa7 | I used it in my codec but the string is not getting printed. |
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| 02:53:16 | yashwa7 | There's only one thing that I didn't follow according to what was mentioned in the wiki for "how to write codec". |
| 02:53:51 | heiligehannah | hello, anyone knows how to update a theme on the new site? |
| 02:54:06 | yashwa7 | apps/codecs/Makefile |
| 02:54:06 | yashwa7 | * Add a rule like ${OBJDIR}/wav.elf : $(OBJDIR)/wav.o |
| 02:54:40 | yashwa7 | The makefile is changed to Codec.make but this line didn't make sense to me. |
| 02:55:39 | dreamlayers | yashwa7: Yeah, that step seems obsolete. |
| 02:55:52 | yashwa7 | ok, |
| 02:56:09 | yashwa7 | otherwise, I have followed everything, and even got the codec built. |
| 02:56:19 | yashwa7 | along with the metadata function. |
| 02:58:09 | yashwa7 | may i get some ideas for debugging? |
| 02:58:19 | dreamlayers | gdb has helped me a lot |
| 02:59:47 | yashwa7 | oh I need to enable debug flags while building so that -g gets added? |
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| 03:00:47 | dreamlayers | I usually build sims with debug and logf enabled to help debugging. |
| 03:01:07 | * | JdGordon just uses printf |
| 03:03:08 | dreamlayers | GDB makes some things much easier. For example I used it to see what's going on with the FS #10102 progress bar problem. |
| 03:03:18 | kugel | yashwa7: sim is always with debugging |
| 03:04:02 | yashwa7 | kugel : ok |
| 03:04:05 | JdGordon | gdb is a bit of a pain though if you dont really know where to look |
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| 03:05:37 | saratoga_work | yeah i don't have the slightest idea how to use GDB |
| 03:06:21 | kugel | I just use the awesome gdb plugin of geany (my editor) |
| 03:06:26 | kugel | used most problems with it |
| 03:06:34 | kugel | used to solve* |
| 03:07:26 | dreamlayers | It's easy to set breakpoints on one or a few relevant functions and then print important variables. eg. for the progress bar issue, audio_current_track() and track_changed_callback(). |
| 03:09:03 | dreamlayers | You can even do stuff like "b codec_main" when the codec isn't loaded. |
| 03:09:24 | motionman95 | JdGordon: So your saying that I can't just download the SIm of the rockbox page? I have to build it myself? |
| 03:10:02 | JdGordon | umm... what did you want to do? you cant use a .rock from a target build with the sim |
| 03:11:24 | motionman95 | Oh. I think I see. Thanks! |
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| 03:21:25 | dreamlayers | Is there a policy regarding braces, other than for the first opening brace of a function? |
| 03:22:19 | yashwa7 | I see that it doesn't even get into codec_main() and wanted to check if someone knows why. |
| 03:22:37 | kugel | dreamlayers: nope, but I'd welcome one |
| 03:23:04 | yashwa7 | The codec.o file gets removed while building whereas the .elf and .codec files are there. |
| 03:25:09 | | Quit motionman95 ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") |
| 03:25:36 | dreamlayers | kugel: I'd also welcome one. When writing the 5G iPod LCD sleep patch, I put those braces on the same line because I prefer that and I saw it in other parts of Rockbox. Today I noticed that all other braces in lcd-video.c are on a different line, and I'm wondering if I should commit a patch to make it consistent within that file. |
| 03:27:33 | kugel | dreamlayers: well, I think there's a hidden guideline to not obfuscate code by mixing styles |
| 03:27:47 | kugel | but, I'd prefer putting the braces on the next line too |
| 03:28:12 | rasher | dreamlayers: Follow the brace style of the file you're editing |
| 03:29:05 | dreamlayers | I don't feel that deserves to be called obfuscation, but I can see that it doesn't look nice. So I guess I should do a "code police" type commit? |
| 03:29:25 | dreamlayers | yashwa7: Can you see if the file is being buffered? The debug menu allows you to view information about the buffer. |
| 03:29:29 | kugel | well, if there's no guideline, then there's no police |
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| 03:29:37 | rasher | kugel: There is a guideline. |
| 03:29:51 | kugel | not about braces other than the function ones |
| 03:29:56 | rasher | Huh? |
| 03:30:01 | rasher | There IS! |
| 03:30:16 | rasher | "When changing code, follow the code style of the file you are editing. When writing new files, you may use the brace placement style of your choice." |
| 03:30:45 | kugel | yes, the follow the existing style |
| 03:30:51 | dreamlayers | Okay, I'll take care of that in lcd-video.c and be careful in the future. |
| 03:30:57 | kugel | that's not the one I was refering to |
| 03:31:06 | rasher | It's perfectly clear.. |
| 03:31:23 | rasher | The creator of the file gets to decide, after that, everyone follows that style. |
| 03:32:09 | dreamlayers | rasher: Thanks for pointing this out. |
| 03:32:47 | rasher | kugel: It's not a hidden guideline. See docs/CONTRIBUTING |
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| 03:42:32 | kugel | rasher: ok |
| 03:44:13 | owen1_ | i want to install rockbox on my ipod nano. the FAQ said to read the manual. there are many pictures in the manuals page. which one do i need? |
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| 03:46:14 | dreamlayers | owen1_: You need the "iPod Nano 1st gen" manual. (... and I hope you have a 1st gen Nano.) |
| 03:46:33 | owen1_ | dreamlayers: i have 1 gig nano. how do i know the gen? |
| 03:48:06 | dreamlayers | owen1_: 1GB must be first gen |
| 03:48:07 | Strife89 | Is the case design curvy? |
| 03:49:12 | scorche | Strife89: if it is 1 gig, it cant be anything else... |
| 03:49:28 | owen1_ | dreamlayers: Strife89 : i guess it's first gen! awesome |
| 03:50:01 | * | Strife89 doesn't always keep up with models by capacity. |
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| 03:56:08 | owen1_ | i get "mountpoint is not writeable" after running ./rbutilqt |
| 03:57:32 | owen1_ | (and choosing my ipod 1 gen from the dropdown) |
| 03:58:29 | owen1_ | do i need to delete the content of my ipod? i have some old apple OS folders there. |
| 03:58:54 | owen1_ | like iPod_control |
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| 04:00:03 | dreamlayers | owen1_: Check if the filesystem is writable. Can you copy files to it? You don't need to delete anything. |
| 04:00:47 | owen1_ | dreamlayers: drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 12288 1969-12-31 16:00 nano |
| 04:01:00 | owen1_ | (my mounted folder is /media/nano) |
| 04:01:53 | dreamlayers | owen1_: So, are you root? |
| 04:02:13 | owen1_ | dreamlayers: no. |
| 04:02:33 | owen1_ | dreamlayers: can i change nano folder to by me instead? |
| 04:02:41 | owen1_ | to be me. |
| 04:03:50 | owen1_ | dreamlayers: that's what i do to mount my nano each time i plug it - sudo mount /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Apple_iPod_000A27001829456C-0:0-part2 /media/nano |
| 04:04:52 | dreamlayers | owen1_: Yes you can, but you need to ask someone more familiar with your OS. |
| 04:05:07 | owen1_ | dreamlayers: thanks. i'll do it and run again the installer. |
| 04:07:55 | yashwa7 | dreamlayers : i found out the problem, with some printf's. It was just that the codec didn't get copied to the .rockbox/codecs directory. |
| 04:08:17 | yashwa7 | Now my codec runs but the output is not what I expect. |
| 04:08:36 | yashwa7 | I was wondering if someone can give comments on my codec that I've written. |
| 04:08:45 | dreamlayers | yashwa7: After you build a codec, you need "make install" to install it into the sim. |
| 04:09:07 | yashwa7 | yep, my fault. |
| 04:09:23 | dreamlayers | yashwa7: If the codec wasn't there, you should have gotten "Codec failure". |
| 04:09:46 | dreamlayers | So, what's the problem with it now? |
| 04:09:48 | yashwa7 | No, i was getting codec load error: -1 |
| 04:10:09 | yashwa7 | that also comes only when I play some valid file and come to my file. |
| 04:10:25 | yashwa7 | Ya, now the problem is as follows: |
| 04:10:50 | yashwa7 | I keep my stream empty since I'm not going use it at all. |
| 04:11:32 | yashwa7 | This is probably enabling the stop_codec or new_track flag because of which I |
| 04:11:43 | yashwa7 | break out of my while loop, so I just removed that check. |
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| 04:12:19 | yashwa7 | My while loop has the following : |
| 04:12:48 | yashwa7 | while (elapsed_time < 10 secs) |
| 04:13:03 | Llorean | yashwa7: Please use a pastebin if you're going to be trying to share code for debugging. |
| 04:13:25 | yashwa7 | yep, sorry will do that. |
| 04:14:33 | yashwa7 | dreamlayers : my code is here, http://pastebin.com/d7ee235ed |
| 04:14:54 | yashwa7 | The while loop finishes too fast and doesn't run for 10 seconds. |
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| 04:19:15 | dreamlayers | yashwa7: How quickly does it finish? It can finish too fast because data is being stored in the PCM buffer. |
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| 04:21:11 | yashwa7 | it runs for around 1~2 seconds. |
| 04:21:33 | yashwa7 | I do an yield(), and I thought it should play the samples. |
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| 04:26:53 | dreamlayers | yashwa7: I can't see an obvious problem, and I have to leave now. Sorry. |
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| 04:27:22 | yashwa7 | gevaerts : I'm wondering how I will submit my task though it might be partially complete. |
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| 04:54:05 | owen1_ | i chaged the owner of my mounted ipod: drwxr-x−−- 6 oren oren 12288 2009-04-12 19:50 nano . i get 'permission for disk access denied' when trying to install rockbox. |
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| 04:54:40 | jlyo | Does anyone know how to convert video for the Sansa Fuze using ffmepg/mplayer/transcode or similar? |
| 04:55:25 | jlyo | I can't find anything out by googling for it. It seems like nobody knows. |
| 04:55:56 | scorche | there isnt a rockbox build for the fuze yet... |
| 04:56:28 | jlyo | Its very developmental it seems |
| 04:57:14 | scorche | right...it is primarily for development at the moment...which is why it isnt made available yet ;) |
| 04:57:56 | scorche | that said, see the PluginMpegplayer wiki page |
| 04:59:06 | saratoga_work | i don't even thnk mpegplayer works on the fuze |
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| 05:02:31 | scorche | hence the development lines, but we shall see... |
| 05:03:30 | owen1_ | in the middle of 'getting themes installation' i got an 'unknwon error'. what should i do next? |
| 05:04:42 | scorche | ignore it for now and go to themes.rockbox.org to download manually |
| 05:05:07 | rasher | Unknown error shouldn't happen.. |
| 05:07:18 | scorche | rasher: no?...we pushed out a new rbutil? |
| 05:07:34 | rasher | No, but it should be giving an error with a nice error message |
| 05:07:58 | jlyo | I'm not running the rockbox port the the fuze. I'm running Sandisk's firmware. I figured this channel was my best hope. Is there somewhere else I should ask? |
| 05:08:19 | rasher | jlyo: The Sandisk forums. Not here. |
| 05:08:30 | scorche | jlyo: rockbox subjects only here |
| 05:08:56 | jlyo | Ok, thank you for your time. |
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| 05:11:52 | owen1_ | can i simply move mp3 files anywhere i want? |
| 05:11:59 | owen1_ | rockbox is amazing! |
| 05:15:46 | owen1_ | i just moved folder with some mp3. can i simply hear play them with rockbox? |
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| 05:17:12 | saratoga_work | yes |
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| 07:33:08 | owen1_ | how to shutdown rockbox? |
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| 07:33:41 | scorche | owen1_: i am sure the manual covers things like this... |
| 07:34:38 | owen1_ | scorche: true. found it - long 'play' key. |
| 07:34:56 | JayHaru | mornin scorche |
| 07:36:39 | owen1_ | after playing 1 hour with rockbox i am amazed. this is awesome. how is it differ from iPodLinux project? |
| 07:37:51 | scorche | owen1_: the 2 projects have completely separate goals...rockbox tends to focus on being the best music player it can be, while iPL tends to be more about fun, experiments, and an OS that just happens to also have an application that plays music |
| 07:39:02 | owen1_ | scorche: got it. i'll stick with rockbox. |
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| 07:54:21 | raymanism | hello everyone... I need some help using mknkboot to patch my gigabeat S's firmware |
| 07:56:29 | raymanism | I'm not very good at compling, but I have compiled my own builds before (back in the early days of RB on the H300).... |
| 07:57:46 | raymanism | I read all the entries on the subject at rockbox.org, and I know that the Gigabeat S isn't supported yet... that's why I came here, instead of posting at the forum... |
| 07:59:38 | raymanism | I have all the necessary files (mknkboot.c, NK.bin, and the bootloader) and I am using Cygwin... I followed the instructions at the RB wiki to install Cygwin btw.. |
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| 08:02:19 | raymanism | what else do I need to be able to patch the NK.bin? "mknkboot <firmware file> <boot file> <output file>" |
| 08:06:51 | raymanism | I placed all the three files (mknkboot NK.bin and the bootloader) in a directory, ran Cygwin, went to that directory, and did as the above instructions (with the appropriate file names of course).... and it said command not found or something |
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| 08:14:13 | JdGordon | no dreamlayers :( |
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| 08:59:28 | jhujhiti | rockbox doesn't seem to understand id3 tags with track numbers like "A1, A2, B1, B2". is this intentional? |
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| 09:02:36 | JdGordon | yes |
| 09:03:04 | jhujhiti | is that because the track field shouldn't contain letters or because someone was a tad bit lazy? ;) |
| 09:03:45 | JdGordon | the first |
| 09:04:46 | jhujhiti | foobar2000 doesn't seem to take issue with letters. does the id3 format have an official spec? |
| 09:05:51 | jhujhiti | right then, google |
| 09:08:56 | jhujhiti | spec limitation indeed... |
| 09:09:08 | jhujhiti | is there a way to do what i want? |
| 09:09:34 | jhujhiti | (namely make rockbox display track numbers as A1, A2, etc) |
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| 09:18:52 | JdGordon | jhujhiti: you're calling them numbers.... why are you putting letters in them? |
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| 09:19:48 | jhujhiti | JdGordon: i'm calling them numbers because most software calls the field "track number". i'm putting letters in them because they're vinyl rips, so the anal-retentive correct track number has a side letter |
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| 09:21:27 | JdGordon | the more correct wya would be to use the disk number field then |
| 09:22:10 | jhujhiti | <nitpicky>it's a side, not a disc |
| 09:22:21 | jhujhiti | (you will notice i did not close that tag ;x) |
| 09:22:23 | JdGordon | well... if you want it to work |
| 09:23:23 | jhujhiti | hmm, it's not a bad idea though |
| 09:23:37 | jhujhiti | on a related note, do you know of any id3 tag editor that doesn't *suck*? |
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| 09:28:07 | * | scorche notes the change of on-topicness |
| 09:28:27 | jhujhiti | it's.. tangentially related |
| 09:31:26 | scorche | this channel is a bit strict with the topicness (especially as we have a different channel for off-topic matters like this)....it either is directly rockbox related, or not ;) |
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| 10:10:03 | nls_web | raymanism: you need to run it like ./mknkboot |
| 10:10:33 | * | nls_web goes to operate on the c240 |
| 10:16:19 | raymanism | @nls_web: can you elaborate? :) |
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| 10:45:52 | nls_web | raymanism: . is not in PATH so you need to specify the path to the executable: . so run it as you tried to do but prepend with ./ |
| 10:48:19 | nls_web | hmm, the pp chip in my c240 is nvidia branded and marked pp5023A-TDF |
| 10:49:21 | linuxstb | nls_web: Curious... |
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| 10:54:01 | * | bertrik wonders what triggered n1s to open his c240 and look at the chips |
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| 10:56:54 | webmind | good healthy dose of curiosity? :) |
| 10:58:17 | nls_web | well, it had developed an intermittent connection to the headphones so i disassembled it to see if any solerpoints were broken around the jack |
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| 11:06:29 | bertrik | weird to see a pp5023, I thought rockbox considered c240s as pp5022 |
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| 11:06:57 | bertrik | I'll check if I still have any photos of my c240 |
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| 11:09:52 | bertrik | oh, I do have photos of the insides, but I didn't take off the stickers on the PP chip ... (I just see P..... F, 0703 Korea) |
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| 11:32:23 | pixelma | [02:27:39] <kugel> wps which use rtc tags won't work on targets without rtc <- that's not true |
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| 13:25:11 | Massa | Gi everybody! |
| 13:25:20 | Massa | s/G/H/ |
| 13:26:02 | Massa | Anybody online now? |
| 13:27:43 | motionman95 | I still can't figure out how to use settings_parseline(). I've looked at all the plugins that use it, but I'm still confused. I would be able to use it if I knew exactly what it did with the params given. |
| 13:28:04 | linuxstb | motionman95: Then look at the source to the function itself. |
| 13:28:24 | motionman95 | Ooohh! Where's that! |
| 13:29:08 | linuxstb | Somewhere in apps/ I would guess. (I don't know exactly) |
| 13:29:51 | Massa | It's in "apps/misc.c" |
| 13:33:48 | Massa | Is somebody here who knows how to install the rockbox bootloader on a Sansa Fuze? (I know it's unsupported...) |
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| 13:36:30 | linuxstb | Massa: You need to merge the Rockbox bootloader (bootloader-fuze.sansa) with an original firmware .bin file using mkamsboot, and then install that merged file onto your Fuze in the same way as a normal firmware update. |
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| 13:47:02 | robin0800 | There are two posts in forum WPS about the new theme site, hope you don't mind me drawing your attention to them? |
| 13:47:24 | Massa | linuxstb: and where can I find mkamsboot? |
| 13:47:54 | bertrik | rbutil/mkamsboot |
| 13:50:44 | Massa | bertrik: Thanks - I have to build it manually; I thought it'd be automatically built together with the tools :) |
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| 13:51:46 | linuxstb | Massa: Just type "make" in rbutil/mkamsboot/ |
| 13:52:47 | Massa | linuxstb: I already did it - now I try to find out how to use it, but there are always error messages... |
| 13:53:36 | Massa | I tried "mkamsboot bootloader.bin fuzea.bin new.bin" |
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| 13:53:48 | linuxstb | Massa: Re-read my message |
| 13:55:11 | Massa | linuxstb: ??? I compiled it and now I try to use it. The call without parameters says "Usage: mkamsboot <firmware file> <boot file> <output file>" |
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| 13:55:46 | linuxstb | Massa: My message from about 19 minutes ago when I explained what you needed to do. |
| 13:56:06 | fuzzie | who is responsible for the ipodpatcher code? |
| 13:56:39 | linuxstb | fuzzie: Everyone and no-one, like the rest of Rockbox. What's the problem/question? |
| 13:56:53 | fuzzie | it doesn't build on big-endian because it tries re-defining macros as functions, but the pre-processor expands the macros first - fuzzie.org/nfs/rockbox_ipodpatcher.txt">http://fuzzie.org/nfs/rockbox_ipodpatcher.txt makes it work but perhaps there is a better fix? |
| 13:57:44 | linuxstb | fuzzie: What OS is that? OS X? |
| 13:57:50 | fuzzie | linux |
| 13:57:57 | Massa | linuxstb: aah - now I got it: "mkamsboot fuzea.bin bootloader-fuze.sansa new.bin" does the trick ;) - Thanks! |
| 13:58:15 | linuxstb | Massa: That looks right ;) |
| 13:58:18 | Massa | Now I'll put it on the Fuze and hope it doesn't brick :) |
| 13:59:40 | linuxstb | fuzzie: I would be probably choose to rename those functions so they don't clash. |
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| 14:00:25 | linuxstb | (and make them static) |
| 14:02:08 | linuxstb | Massa: Remember the port is not supported... |
| 14:02:53 | Massa | linuxstb: I know - I'm just curios what works and what now ;) |
| 14:05:24 | fuzzie | linuxstb: that would be great too, just wouldn't know what to name them. fuzzie.org/nfs/rockbox_ipodpatcher2.txt">http://fuzzie.org/nfs/rockbox_ipodpatcher2.txt builds fine, just a trivial search-and-replace.. |
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| 14:09:24 | hargut | is there any active work in progress for the iaudio 7? |
| 14:12:54 | bertrik | the iaudio 7 wiki page hasn't been updated since december, so I think that's a no |
| 14:13:29 | hargut | bertrik: thanks. |
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| 14:25:30 | Massa | linuxstb: it works - even music plays (I didn't notice the "ladies and gentlemen we have sound" message at the mailinglist :) |
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| 14:30:53 | pixelma | did someone else have the problem that playback stutters in the sim when changing volume? (This is a cross-compiled win X5 sim, r20699) |
| 14:31:34 | pixelma | playing MP3, vbr ~170kbit/s |
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| 14:36:17 | * | pixelma also notices some weird static noise :\\ |
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| 14:36:49 | * | LambdaCalculus37 needs a couple more testers for FS #10108 |
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| 14:37:25 | LambdaCalculus37 | So far using gmake -r and make -r doesn't seem to break anything in Linux, but I would like to know if maybe a *BSD or other *nix owner can try it out. |
| 14:44:14 | linuxstb | LambdaCalculus37: I would say go ahead and commit. IIUC, using "-r" means that "make" only uses rules explicity set in the Makefiles (the gcc and binutils Makefiles), so if it works in one place, it should work everywhere - i.e. it means that those Makefiles don't assume any built-in rules from make. |
| 14:46:45 | LambdaCalculus37 | linuxstb: Done deal. I'll commit when I get a chance to get access. |
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| 15:16:45 | raymanism2 | hey everyone... still having problems with mknkboot |
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| 15:23:42 | kugel | FlynDice: ping |
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| 15:24:43 | kugel | moos: ping |
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| 15:27:43 | moos | kugel: pong |
| 15:28:00 | kugel | moos: new patch at FS #10127, please test :) |
| 15:29:02 | moos | kugel: ok, let's me few minutes |
| 15:29:46 | moos | btw, AMS ports is going pretty well those days :) |
| 15:29:56 | moos | *is/are |
| 15:30:28 | kugel | moos: yep, I plan to look at making mkamsboot more sane and rbutil integration soon |
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| 15:30:53 | kugel | more sane as in, build-in the bootloaders and maybe patch the firmware in-place |
| 15:31:04 | sko | moos: yeah, right, i'm using the of only for file transfer since the ams sansas can play mp3 |
| 15:31:04 | moos | wee, rbutil is definitively an important step for support |
| 15:31:52 | moos | sko: long time since I don't use any of OF on those players I have :) |
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| 15:32:52 | BXCracer | But still we need usb driver |
| 15:32:57 | BXCracer | for ams |
| 15:33:11 | kugel | that's not essential imo |
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| 15:36:43 | moos | kugel: building... |
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| 15:48:44 | moos | kugel: working well here |
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| 15:49:08 | kugel | then I commit it |
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| 15:50:18 | moos | well done! (just maybe a bit too easy to wrap, but I guess that's subjective) |
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| 15:56:28 | kugel | too easy? |
| 15:56:55 | kugel | you should be forced to scroll very slowly or even stop if you want to wrap |
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| 15:58:05 | kugel | moos: what would you like more? |
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| 16:01:35 | moos | kugel: I guess that is because I'm not a wheel user. |
| 16:02:57 | moos | but I'd say nice anyway, go ahead |
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| 16:10:37 | kugel | moos: done :) |
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| 16:14:05 | moos | kugel: nice :) |
| 16:14:37 | moos | and welcome to sko in Rockbox credits btw |
| 16:14:50 | sko | thank you |
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| 16:40:24 | FlynDice | sko: kugel: Most excellent work on e200v2 scrollwheel! |
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| 16:46:40 | * | kugel spots http://cgi.ebay.de/Li-Polymer-BATTERY-for-SANSA-SANDISK-FUZE-4GB-8GB-ACCU_W0QQitemZ270358461923QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CE_MP3Access_RL?hash=item270358461923&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318 |
| 16:46:53 | kugel | a sansa fuze replacement battery |
| 16:47:12 | kugel | it says 550 mAh. Could that also apply to the original battery? |
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| 16:52:10 | bertrik | kugel, that could be about right, e200 is about 730 mAh, c200 is 530 mAh for comparison |
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| 16:54:10 | bertrik | if we knew the markings on the fuze battery, we could look up the capacity from the manufacturer site |
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| 16:56:55 | pixelma | about putting the SVN themes onto the theme site - I thought about doing this but then was thinking it would be much easier for some site admin (as he wouldn''t need the confirmation step for every single one) |
| 16:57:22 | bertrik | kugel, do you still have your fuze? |
| 16:57:52 | bertrik | I assume any damage done by disassembly is not going to be a big problem anymore ... |
| 16:58:08 | rasher | pixelma: why not? |
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| 16:58:51 | kugel | bertrik: the rest of it, yes |
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| 16:59:41 | pixelma | rasher: would have thought that an admin had access to the database directly |
| 16:59:58 | rasher | pixelma: Sure, but it's not really a lot easier :) |
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| 17:00:09 | rasher | I'd just do it manually if I were to upload them |
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| 17:01:34 | pixelma | ah hmh |
| 17:02:40 | kugel | bertrik: the battery is in some kind of silver foil, not in a plastic case? |
| 17:02:50 | kugel | s/?/./ |
| 17:03:01 | kugel | can i just cut the foil off? |
| 17:03:20 | bertrik | does it have letters and numbers on it? like ATL ....? |
| 17:03:37 | * | pixelma args at hitting FS #10102 |
| 17:04:03 | kugel | no |
| 17:04:20 | bertrik | li-polymer can be very flexibly shaped IIRC and doesn't need to be in a rigid container |
| 17:04:25 | rasher | pixelma: The only one we don't have relicensed yet is marquee |
| 17:04:33 | bertrik | kugel, nothing at all? |
| 17:05:10 | bertrik | I would be very careful with the battery, and not try to rip parts off |
| 17:05:10 | kugel | bertrik: these numbers are on it 608695 354239 a76814 |
| 17:05:16 | pixelma | rasher: maybe I'll find time by the end of the week and try my luck if no-one beats me to it |
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| 17:06:17 | bertrik | the 354239 could mean the dimensions of the battery, lik 3.5cm x 4.2cm x 3.9 mm |
| 17:07:29 | * | pixelma wonders what would happen if someone submits a screenshot for the same theme and resolution but different targets (e.g. the Ondio screenshots actually have a different colour than the Recorders' now ) |
| 17:10:05 | * | kugel wonders why the fuze is so broken, there's no obvious damage on the mainboard |
| 17:14:14 | kugel | bertrik: shall I cut the silver foil away? |
| 17:14:33 | bertrik | kugel, I was hoping to find it on this page: http://www.atlbattery.com/eng/productseries.asp but can't find it |
| 17:14:36 | bertrik | no |
| 17:15:10 | bertrik | I think it's dangerous to mess with it too much, especially after it's already been run over |
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| 17:16:04 | kugel | you think the stuff in it is going to explode? |
| 17:17:01 | bertrik | yes, maybe not explode, but possibly burn |
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| 17:23:51 | saratoga_work | betrik: i dug through that site a while ago using the fuze battery serial numbers |
| 17:24:09 | saratoga_work | the exact model isn't there, but going by volume it was about 500-600mah I think |
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| 17:27:37 | kugel | saratoga_work: 550mah seems resonable then |
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| 18:25:31 | mc2739 | kugel: ping |
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| 18:28:09 | mc2739 | kugel: for the logs - I noticed 2 issues with the e200v2/fuze button driver |
| 18:28:47 | kugel | mc2739: which |
| 18:28:57 | mc2739 | kugel: 1) the scrollwheel works with the hold switch on - it should be enclosed in if (!hold_button) {} |
| 18:29:12 | kugel | \o/ compiles and works on windows! http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9371 |
| 18:29:25 | kugel | ah right |
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| 18:30:12 | mc2739 | kugel: 2) the wheel_tbl does not seem to match the dbop-din output on the debug screen |
| 18:31:02 | kugel | :? |
| 18:31:23 | kugel | the wheel table only covers bits 13 and 14, not the whole dbop_din |
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| 18:32:38 | mc2739 | kugel: when I rotate the wheel clockwise, bits 15:12 = c -> 8 -> a -> e |
| 18:33:13 | kugel | mc2739: the wheel table is a bit tricky |
| 18:33:41 | kugel | the values aren't read as-is, it's an array accessed with the previous wheel value |
| 18:34:04 | kugel | (thus, not linearly accessed) |
| 18:35:03 | mc2739 | it's not read in the same order as the wheel? |
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| 18:36:35 | MT | linuxstb : I'm testing the decoder (cook) .. I've tried dump_cook_context() and it worked fine .. but when I call cook_decode_init() I get a seg fault. The program doesn't even enter the function (tried putchar/printf at the beginning of the function and there was no output) |
| 18:36:39 | kugel | the array isn't linear to what the wheel produces, right |
| 18:36:54 | kugel | because of [old_wheel_value] |
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| 18:37:01 | linuxstb | MT: Is your latest code in SVN? |
| 18:38:04 | MT | linuxstb : the demuxer yes, I didn't add anything to it since I started working on the task. But the decoder no. |
| 18:38:27 | linuxstb | MT: So how can I help? ;) |
| 18:39:06 | merbanan | MT: I have a pending patch for cook, it adds multichannel support :) maybe not a needed feature in Rockbox |
| 18:39:18 | * | MT apologizes ! :) |
| 18:39:46 | rasher | merbanan: we already do A52, why not? |
| 18:39:54 | mc2739 | kugel: ok, I guess I'll take your word for it, even though it doesn't look right compared to the e200v1 code |
| 18:39:55 | MT | merbanan : great ! :) |
| 18:40:13 | kugel | mc2739: you can check the table like this |
| 18:40:40 | kugel | if the wheel was 01, [1] of the array needs to be the current value (which is 11 afaik) |
| 18:42:25 | bertrik | kugel, google found a hit for the 354239 battery number: http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/template/LISEXT/1FRAME/showpage.html?name=BBCV2.MH27725&ccnshorttitle=Lithium+Batteries+-+Component&objid=1075284287&cfgid=1073741824&version=versionless&parent_id=1073747351&sequence=1 |
| 18:43:01 | bertrik | it's mentioned as a 550 mAh battery |
| 18:43:07 | kugel | yep |
| 18:44:26 | linuxstb | merbanan: Is multi-channel cook very common? I've never heard of such a beast... |
| 18:45:10 | kugel | mc2739: it took me some hours to get it right, I'm fairly sure it's correct |
| 18:45:52 | kugel | mc2739: and if you look at the v1 driver, the wheel table doesn't match the actual wheel changes too |
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| 18:48:47 | mc2739 | kugel: ok, I see that now in the v1 driver |
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| 18:50:12 | mc2739 | kugel: do you want me to put up a patch for the scroll wheel hold switch changes? |
| 18:50:46 | kugel | mc2739: no, I have one. but you can test it if you want http://pastie.org/445114 |
| 18:50:53 | * | kugel isn't able to test anymore |
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| 18:51:51 | mc2739 | kugel: I'll test on e200 |
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| 19:02:54 | mc2739 | kugel: works fine on e200 - except for the extra "d" at the end of http://pastie.org/445114 |
| 19:04:42 | kugel | oops |
| 19:04:55 | kugel | that's not in the diff, I think, just in the paste |
| 19:05:12 | mc2739 | that is what I figured |
| 19:05:26 | kugel | mc2739: I think I'm adding another check in kernel-as3525.c, so that the whole dbop isn't read too |
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| 19:08:33 | mc2739 | kugel: any idea why the ports debug screen shows 32 bits but when you press the record button it only shows 16 bits? |
| 19:08:52 | mc2739 | kugel: for dbop_din |
| 19:09:37 | mc2739 | oops - s/32/64/ s/16/32/ |
| 19:10:15 | mc2739 | no, I was right the first time |
| 19:10:35 | kugel | mc2739: no, not really |
| 19:10:47 | kugel | I have that too, but no idea really |
| 19:11:06 | mc2739 | ok, I'll try to track it down |
| 19:11:49 | kugel | mc2739: I assume it's an issue with snprintf and the %x format |
| 19:13:33 | amiconn | The is no such issue known. It would affect all targets ifr it existed... |
| 19:13:38 | amiconn | *There |
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| 19:15:19 | kugel | sure |
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| 19:21:01 | MT | linuxstb : there https://rm-wavconverter.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/rm-wavconverter/cook/ .. main is inside cook.c |
| 19:22:40 | linuxstb | MT: There is no Makefile? |
| 19:23:54 | bertrik | I also spot the 363830 battery from the Clip on that page, it's mentioned as 350 mAh |
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| 19:25:33 | MT | linuxstb : no, I compiled it : gcc $(ffmpeg-config −−cflags) cook.c bitstream.c fft.c mdct.c libavutil/random.c libavutil/log.c libavutil/mem.c libcook.a -lm -o program |
| 19:26:09 | hillshum | Where's the build table? |
| 19:26:29 | kugel | bertrik: fine, let's take those values |
| 19:27:52 | linuxstb | MT: What is that meant to do? |
| 19:30:47 | MT | linuxstb : is there something wrong with it ? |
| 19:32:07 | saratoga_work | MT: I've got a makefile for the wma codec and parts of ffmpeg it uses if you want it: http://www.duke.edu/~mgg6/rockbox/wmadecoder.zip |
| 19:32:20 | linuxstb | MT: It doesn't do anything... And it doesn't use your demuxer. |
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| 19:34:18 | MT | linuxstb : oh sorry, I didn't mean that I'm testing the decoding part, I was just testing to make sure I've properly extracted the codec, so calling cook_decode_init() should return an error or anything of the sort, am I wrong ? |
| 19:34:26 | MT | saratoga_work : thanks :) |
| 19:36:08 | linuxstb | MT: I think you need to populate parts of avc before you pass it into cook_decode_init(). But the fact that it compiles (almost) cleanly is a good sign. |
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| 19:37:22 | MT | linuxstb : but I have tried printing some output at the beginning of cook_decode_init() and still got seg fault before anything was printed .. should I ignore this ? |
| 19:39:02 | linuxstb | MT: Yes, I would. I expect it's because avc isn't initialised correctly. |
| 19:39:07 | MT | linuxstb : and for the compiler warnings I'll just have to replace the functions used from random.c with better ones from lfg (or avlfg can't remember the name correctly). |
| 19:39:59 | MT | linuxstb : ok .. then the following steps would be to write a Makefile, and start using it with the demuxer ? |
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| 19:42:31 | linuxstb | MT: Yes, I think so. |
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| 20:47:38 | merbanan | linuxstb: like 10 samples known |
| 20:47:49 | merbanan | total waste of time to implement |
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| 20:52:04 | linuxstb | merbanan: ;) |
| 20:52:16 | merbanan | so I did it |
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| 20:53:59 | gevaerts | We must also have it! |
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| 21:47:19 | Dekkard | sorry for the intrusion..but.. what does it mean that the usb stack is not enabled in the current release 3.2 ? |
| 21:47:56 | hillshum | The USB doesn't work |
| 21:48:19 | JdGordon| | WRONG!!! |
| 21:48:30 | Dekkard | .. ok. so how do you charge and load files |
| 21:48:41 | hillshum | use the OF |
| 21:48:46 | Dekkard | JdGordon, ok.. so what does it mean? |
| 21:48:46 | JdGordon| | usb does work, and its not enabled in 3.2 |
| 21:49:39 | agaffney | JdGordon|: I believe hillshum's point is that it does not work because it's disabled |
| 21:49:43 | agaffney | not because it's broken |
| 21:49:51 | hillshum | quite |
| 21:49:55 | * | Dekkard confused |
| 21:50:07 | Dekkard | can i still load tunes and charge via usb? |
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| 21:50:21 | hillshum | USB doesn't not function in Rockbox with 3.2 |
| 21:50:25 | agaffney | Dekkard: all it means is that when you plug in USB, the device will restart into the original firmware (at least in the case of the Sansa) |
| 21:51:41 | Dekkard | so you have to reset and everything is groovy? |
| 21:52:12 | hillshum | reboot yes |
| 21:52:16 | Dekkard | okee |
| 21:52:35 | hillshum | the bug has been fixed so a current build should work fine |
| 21:52:56 | Dekkard | because im noticing on the last current build i loaded..that it seems the device is not shutting down.. or something.. becasue the battery is like dying real fast |
| 21:53:35 | hillshum | what target do you have? |
| 21:53:53 | Dekkard | ipod nano 1st gen |
| 21:54:26 | Dekkard | and i noticed that there seem to be some bugs.. at least in the compile log for the new current build |
| 21:54:30 | hillshum | which current build? |
| 21:54:40 | Dekkard | hmm.. |
| 21:54:46 | Dekkard | 20777 i think |
| 21:54:56 | Dekkard | at least thats what i thought i saw on the build page |
| 21:54:59 | hillshum | get a new one from today |
| 21:55:29 | hillshum | Go to System>>Rockbox Info on iPod |
| 21:56:23 | Dekkard | 20666-090409 |
| 21:56:59 | hillshum | the issue with building has been fixed |
| 21:57:42 | Dekkard | koo |
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| 22:08:09 | MT | linuxstb : I'm trying to write a function that will produce a properly reordered audio frame for decoding. I have 2 paths to go : |
| 22:08:23 | MT | oops, pressed enter by mistake |
| 22:08:25 | JdGordon| | go left! |
| 22:08:42 | MT | :D |
| 22:09:23 | linuxstb | go right! |
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| 22:09:45 | gevaerts | Straight on! |
| 22:09:56 | linuxstb | Ah, you've found a third path? |
| 22:10:00 | MT | gevaerts : sorry, no third one :P |
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| 22:10:13 | * | JdGordon| refrains from breaking into song |
| 22:10:13 | gevaerts | oh well |
| 22:10:43 | * | linuxstb reminds all Rockbox devs to go into #rockbox-gsoc if they're interested in the discussions. |
| 22:11:07 | * | linuxstb pings Bagder BigBambi Llorean pixelma as they're marked away... |
| 22:13:04 | MT | so linuxstb : 1. would be to use ffmpeg's function and do as little modifications as possible to get it running or 2. I could use the same way and write my own functions so as not to have to deal with AVFormatContext .. etc. but the downside is that I'll have to modify cook.c's functions to work along which would of course take more time, but the benefit is that it'll save time later when... |
| 22:13:05 | MT | ...porting to rockbox. Which do you think is better ? |
| 22:13:46 | MT | linuxstb : are students allowed into -gsoc ? |
| 22:13:52 | linuxstb | MT: No ;) |
| 22:14:00 | MT | :) alright |
| 22:14:45 | scorche|sh | you couldnt enter anyway =) |
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| 22:15:13 | MT | scorche|sh : good, I just didn't want to try and then be asked to leave :P |
| 22:16:02 | MT | linuxstb : about the rm-related question above ::) ? |
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| 22:17:20 | linuxstb | MT: Have you looked at Rockbox's WMA and FLAC codecs? They're both based on ffmpeg. |
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| 22:18:49 | kuber | should rockbox on an 80gb ipod be able to play m4as encoded with faac ? |
| 22:19:00 | MT | linuxstb : had a quick look at them. I'll look again now.. btw, I've made the makefile, (or to be accurate, edited saratoga's to work with my codec :) ) Thanks saratoga ! |
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| 22:44:28 | MT | linuxstb : both codecs only use GetBitContext struct from ffmpeg. I think I'll start "minimizing" the code for cook/rm first before trying to work with decoding. |
| 22:45:01 | MT | ( by both codecs I mean flac and wma ofcourse) |
| 22:45:59 | linuxstb | MT: That sounds sensible. |
| 22:46:48 | MT | ok great. Thanks. I have to go now. |
| 22:47:19 | MT | bye all ! :) |
| 22:47:26 | * | hillshum waves |
| 22:52:13 | froggyman | whats the gigabeats clock speed? |
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| 22:52:47 | Llorean | froggyman: Which gigabeat? |
| 22:56:10 | froggyman | the f and s |
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| 23:00:37 | Llorean | froggyman: The F is 300mhz, the S is 532 but running at half speed (which comes out a bit faster than the F under well optimized conditions I believe, due to architectural differences) |
| 23:01:20 | froggyman | Llorean: wow, thats quite fast, didnt realize how fast they were |
| 23:01:40 | Llorean | The "Gigabeat S" is often called "The Gigabeast". |
| 23:01:51 | froggyman | lol |
| 23:01:56 | Llorean | It's also got some more juice in it in some coprocessing power that I believe isn't tapped anywhere yet. |
| 23:02:20 | froggyman | what is there screen size? |
| 23:02:48 | Llorean | 240x320 |
| 23:03:35 | froggyman | is that bigger or smaller than the iPod videos? |
| 23:03:47 | Llorean | It's exactly the same, except rotated 90 degrees |
| 23:03:50 | rasher | Llorean: Yeah, it has a FPU... amazing thing |
| 23:03:53 | Llorean | At least, in terms of number of pixels. |
| 23:04:12 | Llorean | rasher: Doesn't it also have some accelerated functions for video decoding, too? |
| 23:04:36 | froggyman | sweet, i think i might consider getting one of those to replace my iPod video some day |
| 23:05:17 | Llorean | The Gigabeat F has a touch cross some don't like |
| 23:05:25 | Llorean | The S has a cross that's real buttons. |
| 23:05:43 | hillshum | the iPod has a wheel |
| 23:05:46 | gevaerts | On the other hand, currently the F has much better (3 or 4 times) battery time than the S |
| 23:05:49 | Llorean | Other than that, in terms of the Rockbox experience, they're pretty similar right now (outside of obvious differences - the S has a radio, etc) |
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| 23:06:04 | Llorean | gevaerts: That much, I thought it was only about double. |
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| 23:06:13 | * | Llorean admits to having an old, old F though. |
| 23:06:59 | gevaerts | Llorean: maybe 4 is a bit exagerated, but I've done 23 hours battery benches |
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| 23:09:37 | kugel | the S gets 67h max, 3-4 seems correct |
| 23:09:37 | froggyman | Llorean: what do you do for a living (besides rockbox), but, if you dont want to say that would be fine to |
| 23:09:40 | kugel | 6-77 |
| 23:09:43 | kugel | 6-7 ;; |
| 23:10:06 | hillshum | 67hours? |
| 23:10:27 | Llorean | kugel: Only 6-7? I would swear I've gotten somewhere around 9 or 10 on mine. Though I've not done a definitive test. |
| 23:10:43 | JdGordon| | i was luck to get 2 before mine carked it |
| 23:10:57 | kugel | Llorean: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatRuntime |
| 23:11:28 | Llorean | kugel: Well, I've been listening to very low bitrate content, that probably helps a lot. |
| 23:11:48 | Llorean | The buffer probably holds ~2hrs of audio for me. |
| 23:13:14 | kugel | 64MB right? |
| 23:13:17 | Llorean | froggyman: Off-topic chat belongs in the other channel anyway. |
| 23:13:19 | Llorean | kugel: Yes. |
| 23:13:52 | hillshum | Isn't there a wikipage with each codec/target's perfomance? |
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| 23:17:12 | * | n1s remembers around 5-6 hours on his beash, that was before jhMikeS latest power savings though, but it has a pretty small battery so i guess the chances of it reaching the same times as the f are small |
| 23:17:24 | n1s | beast* |
| 23:19:40 | Llorean | n1s: We don't do any boost/unboost yet either, do we? |
| 23:20:04 | rasher | Llorean: That turned out to not save any battery, mysteriously |
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| 23:20:28 | Llorean | rasher: On the *S*? Are we sure we were doing it right? Why don't we have it clocked at 532 then? |
| 23:20:47 | rasher | Llorean: I'm pretty sure it was on the S... other than that, no idea |
| 23:20:50 | Llorean | I remember the F not needing boost/unboost and a theory about it handling power savings there itself when we left it alone (boost/unboost made it worse) |
| 23:21:02 | rasher | Hm, that could be it maybe |
| 23:21:36 | Llorean | But I can't imagine why we'd run the S at half clock if lowering the clock *didn't* offer savings (assuming we know how to change it) |
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| 23:26:35 | kugel | Llorean: because people thought it saves much, but didn't double check it |
| 23:26:49 | kugel | IIRC jhMikeS noticed the very little savings just recently |
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| 23:28:26 | Llorean | kugel: Well if half clock provides marginal savings from full clock, I'd imagine boosting between half and a much lower speed probably offers some more savings. |
| 23:28:31 | n1s | Llorean: jhMikeS knows the details but we do know how to change the clock, amiconn did it to bench the ape codec |
| 23:29:43 | n1s | i think most of the potential savings on the beast would come from dynamically adjusting the clock together with the voltage for the cpu |
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| 23:39:29 | Unhelpful | Llorean: a month or so ago i recall amiconn talking about running tests at different clocks - it would appear that the beast idles cheaply enough to make clock changes not have a very large impact, as they don't change the number of cycles spent working. |
| 23:42:33 | Llorean | Unhelpful: But can we also lower the voltage as n1s suggested? |
| 23:43:29 | n1s | Llorean: the SoC has features for doing that at least |
| 23:43:51 | Unhelpful | i understand that the voltage *can be* lowered. i don't know if we've tried or succeeded yet, and i've no idea what the best power-saving measures might be in that case... probably always running at a clock where there's just a little idle time? |
| 23:45:25 | Llorean | Didn't the OF at least claim to get better battery life than we do? |
| 23:45:51 | Hillshum_ | Aren't the claims generally bogus? |
| 23:45:55 | n1s | IIRC they clam 13hours for the OF so that's a bit better than us |
| 23:46:01 | n1s | claim |
| 23:46:26 | Llorean | Hillshum_: Yeah, but 7 hours vs 13 hours is a pretty significant difference still |
| 23:46:35 | n1s | Hillshum_: i wouldn't calll them bogus but rather under ideal condidtions, similar to our benches |
| 23:46:54 | Hillshum_ | true |
| 23:46:59 | Llorean | We've had a tendency to be able to beat OF claims under realistic conditions on other players. I'm at least hoping we can do so here, then.' |
| 23:48:08 | n1s | Llorean: of course there might be some component that isn't powered down correctly that we don't know about and that is sucking down the power we want to save :) |
| 23:48:41 | Hillshum_ | is the LCD sleeping? |
| 23:48:54 | Unhelpful | hillshum: i think jhMikeS did that a bit ago |
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| 23:53:27 | froggyman | is anyone here helping with the Lyre project |
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| 23:55:14 | Llorean | froggyman: By helping do you mean "one of the people actually working on it" or "answers questions when the people working on it struggle with Rockbox code"? |
| 23:56:45 | froggyman | Llorean: what i really want to know is if anyone here knows when stable builds of it get will be done (just estimations, like 1 year, 3 months, ect) |
| 23:57:02 | Llorean | Well, that's pretty much impossible to estimate |
| 23:57:10 | Hillshum_ | we never estimate that sort of thing |
| 23:57:35 | Llorean | Even if they finalize on a hardware design, it depends on whether they find a manufacturer, how long it takes them to adapt Rockbox to that hardware design, how long it takes that manufacturer to start selling them, etc. |
| 23:57:54 | froggyman | ok, so it may be several years then? |
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| 23:58:24 | Bagder | or two weeks |
| 23:58:27 | gevaerts | it could be three months, it could be three years... |
| 23:58:32 | BigBambi | possibly |
| 23:58:33 | linuxstb | froggyman: Put it this way, if I was looking to buy a new DAP, I wouldn't wait for the Lyre... |
| 23:58:35 | Hillshum_ | three days |
| 23:58:39 | Llorean | Bagder: Be fair. Probably no sooner than at least a couple months. :-P |
| 23:58:51 | Llorean | But they do have that one guy looking to start producing his variant of them. |
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