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| 00:35:29 | Traveler1 | my plugin is able to read through a file, and is supposed to return the plugin when the nextline returns -1, but just hangs after the last line |
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| 00:36:14 | motionman95 | Could someone help me with the flyspray? I sign up, but I never get the email. :( |
| 00:37:02 | linuxstb | The people that can help (Bagder, LinusN, Zagor) aren't around. |
| 00:37:29 | motionman95 | With my problem or his? |
| 00:37:40 | linuxstb | motionman95: Yours. |
| 00:38:02 | motionman95 | NOOOOOOO!!! |
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| 00:39:00 | motionman95 | So your saying that even tough it says Badger is online, he's not? How can you tell? |
| 00:39:40 | JdGordon| | his a is a 4 when he's here |
| 00:40:13 | robin0800 | motionman95: Because he's greyed out on my irc client |
| 00:40:13 | froggyman | plus do you think that there is actually 143 people on right now? |
| 00:40:23 | motionman95 | Well, no... |
| 00:40:29 | JdGordon| | motionman95: it might just be stuck in the email servers backlog... how long ago should you have got the reply? |
| 00:40:55 | motionman95 | A few weeks... |
| 00:41:01 | JdGordon| | thats fucked then :D |
| 00:41:07 | JdGordon| | register again... |
| 00:41:35 | motionman95 | Trying now... |
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| 00:44:29 | Bnakai067 | hello |
| 00:45:29 | Traveler1 | so what about my hanging fileread? any solutions aside from adding a file end line? |
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| 00:45:53 | linuxstb | Traveler1: It's hard to say what's wrong without seeing your code. |
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| 00:47:58 | Traveler1 | well essentially it is while(nextline() >-1){pring line} return plugin |
| 00:48:45 | Traveler1 | of course the method name is different and parameters are entered into the nextline method |
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| 00:50:51 | JdGordon| | is that the correct return value check? |
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| 00:51:42 | Traveler1 | I was told that it returns -1 if there is no next line, but I'm unaware of where rockbox's plugin api is |
| 00:52:22 | JdGordon| | do a search for it and see how other plugins do it |
| 00:53:16 | motionman95 | where |
| 00:53:45 | motionman95 | i mean where's the documentation for nextline() |
| 00:54:06 | JdGordon| | documentation?? apps/sources/misc.c |
| 00:54:17 | JdGordon| | the source is its own docs :D |
| 00:54:21 | JdGordon| | *cries* |
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| 00:56:27 | * | linuxstb didn't know we had a function called "nextline()" |
| 00:57:07 | motionman95 | then what is traveler1 talking about? |
| 00:57:57 | Traveler1 | so if the next line is too big next_line returns 0, and if it is beyond the size it returns -1? |
| 00:58:52 | JdGordon| | you might prefer to use read_line_fast() (i tinhk thats what its called) |
| 00:59:21 | motionman95 | that's not funny |
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| 01:00:19 | * | JdGordon| dodges the tomatoes? |
| 01:01:03 | Traveler1 | I may try read_line_fast(), but both should return an int greater than 0 if there is another line, right? |
| 01:01:08 | saratoga | yeah i don't think we have a nextline() |
| 01:01:57 | Traveler1 | no, but there is a read_line() |
| 01:02:26 | linuxstb | So? You've been talking about problems with "nextline()" and "next_line" |
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| 01:03:57 | Traveler1 | alright, so I made a mistake, either way, read_line() and read_line_fast() returns an integer above 0, correct? |
| 01:04:32 | JdGordon| | you tell me... apps/misc.c |
| 01:04:52 | JdGordon| | or search for its current sues |
| 01:05:22 | * | JdGordon| sees he gave the wrong location before and appologises |
| 01:05:48 | motionman95 | How do you do that???? |
| 01:06:02 | linuxstb | "grep" ? |
| 01:06:08 | linuxstb | Or any file search tool |
| 01:06:49 | motionman95 | motionman95 tries to do what JdGordan did |
| 01:07:13 | * | JdGordon| teaches motionman95 the wonders of the /me command |
| 01:07:21 | * | motionman95 rocks! |
| 01:07:38 | * | JdGordon| scissors |
| 01:07:40 | * | motionman95 thanks jdgordan 4++ |
| 01:07:52 | JdGordon| | i guess tab is the next lesson then? |
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| 01:08:43 | motionman95 | JdGordon|: THanks! |
| 01:09:46 | Traveler1 | yea, thanks jdGordon, I'll try the read_line_fast() and quadrouple check if there are any errors in my code |
| 01:10:21 | motionman95 | @jdgordon: Well, I signed up to the flyspray and still haven't gotten my email. :( |
| 01:12:01 | Bensawsome | dang i dont think my e200r is loading the bootloader :( |
| 01:12:09 | Bensawsome | it keeps booting to the OF |
| 01:12:18 | Bensawsome | when i plug it in when off that is |
| 01:12:33 | Traveler1 | into a pc usb? |
| 01:12:38 | Bensawsome | yep |
| 01:12:39 | motionman95 | Also, is someone willing to colab with me on a WPS? I suck a WPS making. Here's what I have in mind: http://coderkid.co.cc/Rockbox/SansaPod.jpg |
| 01:12:55 | Bensawsome | nice theme motionman95 |
| 01:13:10 | Bensawsome | or atleast what i can see xP |
| 01:13:28 | JdGordon| | motionman95: if you're artsy... there is a thread in the wps forum for help with some icons if you want to help out... |
| 01:13:35 | Traveler1 | usb isn't supported on e200r, so it'll automatically go to of to communicate with the pc |
| 01:13:56 | motionman95 | jdgordon why not? |
| 01:14:04 | Bensawsome | Traveler1 unless you boot into the rockbox firmware first |
| 01:14:06 | motionman95 | sure |
| 01:14:10 | Bensawsome | then it uses rockbox for the usb :D |
| 01:14:20 | Bensawsome | i guess ill have to wait for the bootloader :/ |
| 01:14:26 | saratoga | USB is supported on the e200r if you use a recent build |
| 01:14:27 | BigBambi | on a current build it does, not the release |
| 01:14:38 | Traveler1 | hmmm, in all my experience even in rockbox it reboots when plugged into a pc |
| 01:14:38 | * | JdGordon| reminds motionman95 hat inflection and sarcasm DONT WORK in irc... |
| 01:14:58 | BigBambi | and what version are you using? |
| 01:15:02 | saratoga | well you're wrong or not running a current build |
| 01:15:05 | Bensawsome | well the e200r firmware now has usb support |
| 01:15:06 | saratoga | figure out which and then come back |
| 01:15:11 | Traveler1 | an older one apparently :D |
| 01:15:30 | * | motionman95 wonders what the heck jdgordon is talking about =? |
| 01:15:35 | Bensawsome | the bootloader is older, the firmware version is the current biuld |
| 01:15:45 | Bensawsome | i first added rockbox a few years ago |
| 01:16:02 | saratoga | then you're wrong I guess |
| 01:16:07 | JdGordon| | you probably need a new bootloader, which im not sure has been done to support usb |
| 01:16:16 | BigBambi | Not from within Rockbox |
| 01:16:22 | Bensawsome | -_- |
| 01:16:22 | motionman95 | I signed up to the flyspray and still haven't gotten my email...any tips? Or should I wait? |
| 01:16:24 | Bensawsome | saratoga: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200Port#Rockbox_Status |
| 01:16:29 | BigBambi | There are new bootloaders on flyspray that donj't boot the OF |
| 01:16:29 | Bensawsome | look at usb :P |
| 01:16:45 | saratoga | feel free to fix the wiki |
| 01:16:47 | BigBambi | But a current build will use Rockbox USB regardless of the bootloader |
| 01:16:50 | Bensawsome | jdGordon i knw i need a new one.... im trying to reflash it..... |
| 01:17:00 | Llorean | motionman95: You've been told who could help you already. |
| 01:17:04 | Llorean | You don't need to keep repeating the question. |
| 01:17:10 | BigBambi | The new bootloader is only needed for when you turn on with USB attached |
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| 01:17:42 | BigBambi | motionman95: It is 01:20 in Europe, the people that can help you are likely asleep |
| 01:17:47 | * | motionman95 sucks wound. Okay, Llorean. |
| 01:17:59 | BigBambi | As should I be |
| 01:18:18 | motionman95 | Well, I live in the US. |
| 01:18:25 | BigBambi | so? |
| 01:18:27 | JdGordon| | that explains alot |
| 01:18:32 | Bensawsome | well all i know is that when i plug it in with rockbox booted it uses the rockbox firmware and there is a pic of a usb cable on it and i see the drive on my computer.... and it does not boot into the OF |
| 01:18:39 | BigBambi | I'm *trying* to explain to you why the people you need are not here |
| 01:19:00 | saratoga | Bensawsome: ok? |
| 01:19:06 | BigBambi | motionman95: You being in the US doesn't make it not be the middle of the night here, or the people that live here not asleep |
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| 01:19:49 | motionman95 | I understand completely what you were trying to do. I was just mentioning that I lived in the US, which is why I didn't know they were asleep. :( |
| 01:19:50 | BigBambi | Bensawsome: good |
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| 01:20:13 | Traveler1 | oh cool, I can actually access my microsd that's over 2 gigs while its in the sansa now :-D updating is awesome |
| 01:20:50 | Llorean | Traveler1: Generally, you shouldn't give advice about what features work without being up to date. |
| 01:21:25 | Bensawsome | yes but when i plug it into my computer with the mp3 player completely off it boots into the OF and i see the drive. evilnick pointed me out an updated bootloader which fixes it. but im saying i cant get it to use the new one... |
| 01:21:43 | saratoga | yes I know you told us like 3 or 4 times |
| 01:22:24 | Bensawsome | ok and dont i have to be in recovery mode or something to get it to flash the m14 files? |
| 01:22:30 | Bensawsome | err mi4 |
| 01:22:55 | Bensawsome | i havent done this in 3 years so... i forgot how i did it :/ |
| 01:22:56 | Llorean | Bensawsome: Did you use the one in the .zip, or did you scroll down and actually download the one for the e200R? |
| 01:23:08 | * | motionman95 says bye! |
| 01:23:09 | Bensawsome | Llorean scrolled down ;) |
| 01:23:15 | Llorean | And there's still documentation for installing the bootloader on the wiki |
| 01:23:29 | * | motionman95 exits the IRC |
| 01:23:30 | Bensawsome | Llorean here right? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200RInstallationFromWindows |
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| 01:23:51 | Llorean | That's one place, yes. |
| 01:24:14 | Bensawsome | and i downloaded the updated bootload from here Llorean: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9955#comment28563 |
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| 01:24:42 | Bensawsome | as it said that there wasnt one in the zip file for the e200r in the main post |
| 01:24:52 | Bensawsome | which there wasnt |
| 01:27:15 | Bensawsome | i did exactly what this post said and it came up on boot saying "bootloader changed" and i rebooted again, turned it off, and when i pluggged the usb cable in it went into the OF :( |
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| 01:28:23 | Llorean | What version does your bootloader report? |
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| 01:28:41 | Bensawsome | Llorean where do i check ;) |
| 01:28:44 | Bensawsome | oh |
| 01:28:56 | Bensawsome | one sec i think i know wherte |
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| 01:29:28 | Bensawsome | or not :/ |
| 01:30:32 | Bensawsome | oh wait Llorean is this it? "Version Info: Product Rev.: PP5022AF-05.51-S301-01.01-RN01.02.031-D" |
| 01:30:42 | Bensawsome | its from the version.txt in the root of my mp3 player |
| 01:30:53 | Llorean | No. |
| 01:30:56 | Llorean | That's a sandisk file. |
| 01:31:03 | Bensawsome | ok lol |
| 01:31:08 | Llorean | When booting, hold Right, and your Rockbox bootloader should display some text very quickly |
| 01:31:12 | Llorean | You'll probably need to do this several times |
| 01:31:16 | Llorean | In there will be the revision number. |
| 01:31:39 | Bensawsome | ah ok |
| 01:31:44 | Bensawsome | ya i remember that |
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| 01:39:45 | Bensawsome | Llorean it shows "Version: 4.0" |
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| 01:42:26 | Llorean | Then you didn't manage to update it. |
| 01:42:52 | Bensawsome | :( |
| 01:42:53 | Bensawsome | ok |
| 01:43:17 | Bensawsome | well i followed those directions exactly (except for needing the e200R only bootloader) |
| 01:43:20 | Bensawsome | so i dunno :( |
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| 01:44:32 | Llorean | What do you mean "except for needing the e200R only bootloader"? |
| 01:44:42 | Bensawsome | oh one sec |
| 01:45:00 | Bensawsome | based on this comment i downloaded the one in the comment below it Llorean: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9955#comment28563 |
| 01:45:25 | Llorean | Yes, you already told me that |
| 01:45:39 | Bensawsome | thats what i mean buy "except for needing the e200R only bootloader" |
| 01:45:46 | Llorean | As compared to what? |
| 01:45:58 | Llorean | The instructions you were supposed to follow also needed an e200R-specific bootloader. |
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| 01:46:45 | Bensawsome | grrr where did the page go :/ |
| 01:47:47 | Bensawsome | Llorean compared to using the one from herehttp://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200RInstallationFromWindows |
| 01:47:59 | Bensawsome | i think evilnick pointed out the flyspray bootloader post |
| 01:48:18 | Llorean | Those are both e200R bootloaders |
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| 01:48:23 | Llorean | The one in the flyspray post is just a newer one. |
| 01:48:40 | Bensawsome | ok |
| 01:48:42 | saratoga | Bensawsome: just to be clear since I don't know how this works, the step is to copy the bootloader file to the root of the player? |
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| 01:48:51 | Bensawsome | saratoga: yes |
| 01:48:57 | motionman95 | I'm baaack! |
| 01:48:59 | Bensawsome | ill try the way you did it Llorean |
| 01:49:04 | Bensawsome | err told me to |
| 01:49:06 | Llorean | What way? |
| 01:49:08 | saratoga | motionman95: go away |
| 01:49:15 | Llorean | Bensawsome: I didn't tell you to do anything. |
| 01:49:17 | Bensawsome | err i meant ill use the one from the wiki |
| 01:49:22 | Llorean | You're not supposed to use the one from the wiki |
| 01:49:27 | Llorean | You're supposed to use the newer one. |
| 01:49:28 | motionman95 | saratoga: whaa? |
| 01:49:30 | Bensawsome | ok :/ |
| 01:49:38 | Bensawsome | saratoga thats mean :P |
| 01:49:44 | Llorean | Bensawsome: Did you boot the original firmware with the file, named that way, in the root of your device? |
| 01:49:44 | saratoga | Bensawsome: so you copied the new bootloader over, rebooted, and then what? |
| 01:50:37 | Bensawsome | Llorean not the original firmware.... |
| 01:50:49 | Bensawsome | it didnt say to boot into the original.. |
| 01:51:00 | Llorean | During that installation, Rockbox isn't installed yet |
| 01:51:03 | Llorean | You can ONLY boot the original |
| 01:51:04 | motionman95 | you guys are so nice to help Bensawsome |
| 01:51:13 | * | Bensawsome headdesks |
| 01:51:16 | Bensawsome | ok thanks |
| 01:51:24 | Bensawsome | i be doin it wrong |
| 01:51:36 | saratoga | why can't he do it from rockbox? |
| 01:51:50 | Bensawsome | saratoga i guess only the OF can flash it :/ |
| 01:51:57 | Llorean | saratoga: Rockbox doesn't spot a PP5022.MI4 file in the root, and then copy it to the firmware partition. |
| 01:52:04 | Llorean | Nobody's made a plugin for this yet, I guess. |
| 01:52:17 | saratoga | whn you reboot doesn't the OF bootloader notice it and update? |
| 01:52:29 | Llorean | I think only Recovery Mode and the _actual_ OF do it. |
| 01:52:29 | saratoga | or does it actually need the OF to run first |
| 01:52:29 | Bensawsome | saratoga aparently not :/ |
| 01:53:03 | Llorean | saratoga: The wiki page says it happens after the database refresh, so definitely 'real' OF |
| 01:53:16 | Bensawsome | yep |
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| 01:54:41 | saratoga | once the R is patched, can you just copy over the non-R OF if you want? |
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| 01:56:25 | Llorean | saratoga: The fact that we need different bootloaders even though the Rockbox builds are the same (IIRC) suggests they still need to be signed (or whatever) differently, I guess. |
| 01:56:51 | Llorean | I would assume that means we can load e200 normal OF by way of the OF.MI4 file, since we don't actually create a merged bootloader/OF for the e200R |
| 01:57:12 | saratoga | Llorean: i guess replacing the bootloader on the R isn't possible like the non-R? |
| 01:57:25 | Llorean | AFAIK conversion from -R to non-R is completely possible. |
| 01:57:34 | Bensawsome | no its possible |
| 01:57:52 | Bensawsome | or atleast people say it is at the anythingbutipod forums |
| 01:58:01 | saratoga | yes its possible |
| 01:58:04 | Llorean | saratoga: Which bootloader? I believe the e200Rpatcher actually patches the signature check out of their bootloader, and that's a necessary step in our Rockbox install |
| 01:58:05 | BigBambi | ah, well they'd know |
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| 01:58:40 | saratoga | so the difference is likely that the R firmware requires an R bootloader, so we can't just put a normal bootloader on there unless we also switch to a non-R OF? |
| 01:58:54 | Llorean | I think so, yes. |
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| 01:59:00 | saratoga | that makes sense then |
| 01:59:06 | Llorean | But I'm not wholly sure. |
| 01:59:16 | Llorean | The -R development period was a bit messy with people just trying absolutely random things. |
| 01:59:17 | Bensawsome | YES its refrteshing the db! which means it should reflash next :D |
| 01:59:31 | saratoga | yeah i didn't really follow it |
| 01:59:36 | scorche | <saratoga> so the difference is likely that the R firmware requires an R bootloader, so we can't just put a normal bootloader on there unless we also switch to a non-R OF? |
| 01:59:37 | scorche | yes |
| 01:59:48 | Bensawsome | scorche you has a e200r? :D |
| 02:00 |
| 02:00:19 | scorche | Bensawsome: yes...i was the first one to have an R running rockbox... |
| 02:00:24 | saratoga | it would be nice to get USB working in the bootloader and then drop the OF's bootloader altogether, then we wouldn't need to care about any of this |
| 02:00:28 | Bensawsome | wow cool scorche :) |
| 02:00:41 | Bensawsome | too bad you werent here before you could have helped me ;) |
| 02:00:43 | Bensawsome | lol |
| 02:00:56 | Bensawsome | but i think i got it thanks to Llorean and saratoga :) |
| 02:00:57 | scorche | yeah, thats a shame ;) |
| 02:01:00 | Bensawsome | lol |
| 02:01:03 | Llorean | saratoga: Well the main problem is just updating the bootloader. If we just had a viewer you could "Open With" on a .mi4 file that'd update it, we also wouldn't need to mess with any of this after initial install. |
| 02:02:20 | Bensawsome | WIN! its 5.0 now! :D |
| 02:02:31 | saratoga | thats good but stop telling us |
| 02:03:02 | Bensawsome | and its still boots to the of when the usb cable is plugged in when off -_- |
| 02:03:13 | Bensawsome | darnit.... |
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| 02:03:42 | motionman95 | When was the last time the flyspray was updated? |
| 02:04:04 | Llorean | motionman95: Do you mean what version of Flyspray are we running? |
| 02:04:12 | motionman95 | Yes! |
| 02:05:09 | Bensawsome | wel... i give up for now -_- |
| 02:05:43 | BigBambi | motionman95: The people that administer flyspray are still asleep |
| 02:05:56 | Llorean | Bensawsome: 5.0 is an older version (unless the version number isn't updated in the one on flyspray). Are you sure you used the right file? |
| 02:06:19 | Llorean | Bensawsome: You could always just compile one with the proper behaviour. |
| 02:06:22 | Bensawsome | i used the pp5022.mi4 from here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200RInstallationFromWindows |
| 02:06:28 | Llorean | I told you NOT to use that one |
| 02:06:30 | BigBambi | why? |
| 02:06:32 | motionman95 | [^_^] funny joke, BigBambi, right? Just kiddin' |
| 02:06:39 | BigBambi | motionman95: what? |
| 02:06:57 | Llorean | motionman95: This is a technical channel. Please, limit yourself to saying what you really mean, and do so clearly. |
| 02:06:57 | BigBambi | Bensawsome: Why didn't you use the new, updated one from flyspray |
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| 02:07:20 | Bensawsome | BigBambi: this one? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9955#comment28563 |
| 02:07:31 | Llorean | That's the one you were told to use in the beginning |
| 02:07:39 | Llorean | The one you've been told to use every single time you've asked. |
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| 02:07:42 | Bensawsome | cause the zip prodiveded in the main post doesnt contain a e200R one |
| 02:08:03 | BigBambi | Bensawsome: You have been told to use that one repeatedly |
| 02:08:10 | BigBambi | What is the problem here? |
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| 02:09:36 | Unhelpful | Bensawsome: the main post is the *oldest* thing in a thread on flyspray. surely you scrolled down? |
| 02:10:19 | BigBambi | Unhelpful: Even if that was a bit unclear, he has been told multiple times |
| 02:10:23 | Bensawsome | yes. and i just tried the one in this comment: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9955#comment28564 |
| 02:10:28 | Bensawsome | and it doesnt wanna flash it |
| 02:10:36 | Llorean | When is "Just"? |
| 02:10:44 | Llorean | A few minutes ago you told us you installed the one from the wiki page. |
| 02:10:48 | saratoga | Bensawsome: maybe you should leave this channel, load the logs, and then read them until you understand what you have set out to do |
| 02:11:00 | saratoga | this whole chatting thing doesn't seem to be working for you |
| 02:11:17 | Bensawsome | just as in just tried it. the latest one i tried. |
| 02:11:36 | BigBambi | before or after the one on the wiki page? |
| 02:11:40 | Llorean | Bensawsome: And what does "doesnt wanna flash" mean? |
| 02:11:41 | Bensawsome | after |
| 02:11:51 | BigBambi | and what was the error? |
| 02:11:53 | Bensawsome | Llorean copy to the firmware partition |
| 02:12:02 | BigBambi | You did exactly the same thing as before? |
| 02:12:06 | Bensawsome | yes |
| 02:12:08 | saratoga | i really think you guys are just confusing him more |
| 02:12:09 | Llorean | I'm certain the original firmware doesn't say "I don't wanna" |
| 02:12:18 | BigBambi | saratoga: I don't think that is possible |
| 02:12:20 | Bensawsome | saratoga: i chat every single day in a support channel providing support. im fin e |
| 02:12:27 | Llorean | Bensawsome: So why not try telling us _exactly_ what happens? |
| 02:12:28 | BigBambi | good god |
| 02:12:32 | saratoga | i wouldn't call this fine |
| 02:12:34 | Bensawsome | ok. |
| 02:12:42 | saratoga | you're drowning in words |
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| 02:16:30 | froggyman | it might be easier for someone here in Europe to swin across the atlantic go to his house and do it for him |
| 02:16:43 | froggyman | just a thought |
| 02:17:20 | Llorean | froggyman: The whole "this is a technical channel" thing still applies. Please, try to keep your comments relevant. |
| 02:19:39 | Bensawsome | Llorean: ok so i went here http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200RInstallationFromWindows and followed the directions exactly and was able to flash the 5.0 bootloader. Then I did the same thing except in step 5 i used the bootloader from this comment http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9955#comment28564 And I rebooted my mp3 player and went into the original sansa firmware but it didnt refresh the databse or copy the mi4 file |
| 02:19:39 | Bensawsome | into the firmware partition. |
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| 02:20:07 | Llorean | Is the PP5022.MI4 file still in the root of your player? |
| 02:20:16 | Bensawsome | i will check |
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| 02:20:51 | Bensawsome | no it isnt |
| 02:21:04 | Bensawsome | so i guess it copied it? |
| 02:21:16 | Bensawsome | but the steps said it would also refresh the db..... |
| 02:21:39 | Llorean | The database refresh still follows the OF's normal rules for it. |
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| 02:21:54 | Llorean | have you tried booting with a USB cable now, then? |
| 02:22:23 | Bensawsome | you mean when the mp3 player is off? yes and it boots to the original firmware :( |
| 02:22:40 | Llorean | You can't really boot when the player is on, so yes, when it's off. |
| 02:23:05 | Llorean | What bootloader version is reported? |
| 02:23:09 | Bensawsome | 5.0 |
| 02:24:16 | Llorean | And is this shown on a screen with lots of text, or a screen with the Rockbox logo? |
| 02:26:37 | Bensawsome | the rockbox logo. should i hold the right button again while booting to get the text one? |
| 02:26:53 | Llorean | Yes. |
| 02:27:08 | Llorean | I told you to use that screen before. I didn't change that instruction at any point. |
| 02:27:29 | Bensawsome | says 5.0 on the text one too |
| 02:28:19 | Llorean | Are you 100% sure then that you copied the right MI4 file to the player? |
| 02:28:44 | Bensawsome | yes. i used the one from the comment on that flyspray post |
| 02:29:15 | Llorean | Well, that one's been confirmed to work for other people. |
| 02:29:26 | Llorean | So, I can't tell what you've done wrong. Good luck. |
| 02:29:49 | Bensawsome | ok. well thanks. atleast i got it somewhat updated :/ |
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| 02:48:20 | LogWatch | I have been watching the logs. Please be more polite to the people coming to #rockbox for support. This is just an idea from an anonymous source. If you want people to continue to use the rockbox software, as opposed to the proprietary included software, then politeness is almost required. Keep snide comments to another channel. Thank you. |
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| 02:48:45 | scorche | hahaha |
| 02:48:49 | daBomb69 | lol |
| 02:49:20 | BigBambi | nice... |
| 02:50:17 | saratoga | coward |
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| 02:51:28 | scorche | LogWatch: if you are still "watching the logs", feel free to come in here and provide polite support...i am sure it would be welcomed |
| 02:51:40 | raymanism | having a problem with volume on my e200... not sure if this is a e200 bug, or a bug in rockbox 3.2.... |
| 02:51:48 | Llorean | LogWatch: Remember, this is a volunteer effort. If you'd like to effect change, act rather than stating how you think others should act. |
| 02:51:54 | BigBambi | raymanism: What sort of problem? |
| 02:51:56 | daBomb69 | lol, scorche LogWatch can read ur mind |
| 02:52:06 | Llorean | daBomb69: Please use real English,a s per the channel guidelines. |
| 02:52:15 | raymanism | when I change the volume, it doesn't actually change, untill the LCD backlight turns off |
| 02:52:18 | LogWatch | Llorean: I will, or maybe I am. As far as you know I already am. |
| 02:52:47 | BigBambi | raymanism: Weird. What about in the OF? |
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| 02:53:00 | BigBambi | oooh, mystic |
| 02:53:02 | raymanism | never happened with the OF |
| 02:53:04 | BigBambi | Is he, isn't he |
| 02:53:17 | Llorean | raymanism: Nobody else has reported this problem. |
| 02:53:52 | raymanism | Llorean: should I report this as a bug, or should we see if other e200 users face something similar? |
| 02:53:56 | BigBambi | raymanism: Has it just started? |
| 02:55:00 | raymanism | BigBambi: actually, I think I have 3.1, so I should try 3.2 and see if the problem still exists... |
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| 02:55:09 | BigBambi | raymanism: Worth a go |
| 02:55:25 | Llorean | raymanism: You should try the current build too, and only report it if it's happening in the newest official (as in, downloaded from our servers) build. |
| 02:55:25 | raymanism | it doesn't happen all the time though... mostly when I increase the volume to the max |
| 02:56:01 | raymanism | Llorean: I'll give the current build a go too. and I only use official builds |
| 02:56:34 | Llorean | raymanism: I have to say that because some people consider "well, I built it myself from unchanged source" to be an official build, etc. |
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| 02:58:34 | raymanism | I'm sure it's mentioned in the manual/wiki... but what's a quick way to find out what version is installed on the player? |
| 02:58:54 | raymanism | Llorean: don't worry... I didn't apply any patches or build from source... |
| 02:59:24 | Llorean | raymanism: There's an option under System I believe |
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| 03:00:21 | raymanism | Llorean: thanks... I remeber at boot-up the bootloader version is showed, followed by another version number (not sure for what) |
| 03:00:38 | raymanism | or in the opposite order |
| 03:00:55 | raymanism | I will try and report back later |
| 03:03:10 | Llorean | LogWatch: As a note, being anonymous does not in any way help your credibility. If you'd like to effect change, become a member of the active community, discuss specific problems you see with support given, and lead by example |
| 03:03:54 | daBomb69 | Llorean, LogWatch isn't here anymore, he quit a while ago. |
| 03:03:55 | Llorean | Trying to maintain anonymity by dropping into the channel as some dramatic watcher makes you an object of humor and possibly even ridicule, rather than someone who seems to actually wish to improve things. |
| 03:04:08 | Llorean | daBomb69: And if he's watching the log, he still needs a way to identify which lines are for him. |
| 03:04:08 | BigBambi | daBomb69: he knows, it is for the logs |
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| 03:04:16 | daBomb69 | And, he's not anonymous. |
| 03:04:35 | daBomb69 | /whois will show his ip, if he's still online |
| 03:04:41 | scorche | Roamer: hi, logwatch |
| 03:04:56 | Roamer | :p Busted. lol |
| 03:05:27 | Roamer | nice guess. the earthlink gave it away though. |
| 03:05:38 | BigBambi | your IP did |
| 03:05:40 | Llorean | That and your IP is still visible to us if you use the webclient. |
| 03:05:44 | BigBambi | and you have never been in here before |
| 03:05:52 | Roamer | That too. :P |
| 03:06:04 | daBomb69 | BigBambi, so. whats the point of someone never being here before? |
| 03:06:06 | Llorean | It's not intended for anonymous access, it's intended to provide people without an IRC client a bare minimum access. |
| 03:06:28 | BigBambi | daBomb69: Have a look at the logs |
| 03:06:42 | BigBambi | This is well off-topic now |
| 03:08:58 | Roamer | i know mibbit showed my ip. I just didn't care. |
| 03:09:13 | BigBambi | Can we stay on topic please |
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| 04:07:03 | saratoga | how much memory is available on the clip for codecs? |
| 04:07:57 | Llorean | It should be #defined in the config |
| 04:08:46 | Llorean | saratoga: With the current #defines, the compressed audio buffer is 491088 bytes. |
| 04:09:14 | Llorean | So assuming you're willing to shrink compressed, it can probably be the same size as it is on other targets. |
| 04:09:17 | Llorean | If it's not, at least |
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| 04:12:06 | saratoga | ah 288KB |
| 04:12:25 | Llorean | I assume that's preventing a few codecs from being build already (AAC?) |
| 04:12:40 | Llorean | Or is that number picked to be just big enough? |
| 04:12:51 | * | Llorean seems to recall AAC being in the about 400 range |
| 04:13:02 | saratoga | we've actually got a lot disabled |
| 04:13:13 | saratoga | mpc, wma, aac, ape, apc |
| 04:13:26 | Llorean | I don't see any reason why they should be. |
| 04:14:12 | saratoga | i'll see if they fit right now |
| 04:14:28 | Llorean | Well, AAC probably won't at least |
| 04:14:46 | Llorean | But I meant, I don't see why the codec buffer can't be enlarged to whatever size is the minimum necessary to fit all those. |
| 04:15:43 | Llorean | I mean at the very least it's an in-development target. All the codecs should be testable without modifying the build, and some can be stripped if the much smaller buffer radically harms performance at release time |
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| 04:17:16 | saratoga | Llorean: the codec buffer is in IRAM right now |
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| 04:18:03 | saratoga | but i think a few codecs will fit in the current buffer without too much effort |
| 04:19:14 | Llorean | saratoga: Ah, it's all in IRAM? |
| 04:19:18 | Llorean | So that's why there's so much RAM free. |
| 04:19:42 | saratoga | i guess eventually we could introduce a define to put things in DRAM |
| 04:19:55 | saratoga | many codecs have enormous tables that are seldom accessed and could go in DRAM |
| 04:22:46 | Llorean | Well, ideally we want all the codecs working |
| 04:23:06 | Llorean | And it *is* flash |
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| 04:35:35 | Bnakai067 | Can someone help me? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=21380.0 |
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| 04:37:41 | saratoga | does the OF work? |
| 04:39:18 | saratoga | shouldn't the clip boot to the OF on USB plugin? its not working for me |
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| 04:55:38 | Llorean | saratoga: Mine doesn't, at least. |
| 04:55:41 | Llorean | I have to manually reboot |
| 04:56:19 | saratoga | Llorean: do we have any targets with 2MB of RAM and SWCODEC except the clip? |
| 04:56:27 | saratoga | well AMS |
| 04:56:37 | Llorean | Not that I know of |
| 04:56:48 | Llorean | The only other small RAM swcodec off the top of my head is the 1mb long-dead iFP port |
| 04:58:04 | saratoga | Llorean: could you try a WMA on your clip and tell me if you get an error, just using any recent svn build |
| 04:59:09 | tmzt | would that be the same as Fuze or are the AMS at different levels of progress in playback? |
| 04:59:23 | Llorean | saratoga: Is 20753 new enough? |
| 04:59:27 | saratoga | the fuze has more memory |
| 04:59:34 | saratoga | Llorean: yeah just want to make sure i'm not crazy |
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| 05:00:00 | tmzt | well, playback doesn't work at all (maybe wav) |
| 05:00:06 | Llorean | saratoga: Know where I can get a sample WMA? |
| 05:00:12 | tmzt | but it also doesn't crash the device any more |
| 05:00:24 | saratoga | Llorean: don't worry, I'll just compile a stock svn build and try it myself |
| 05:00:40 | Llorean | ok |
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| 05:03:33 | saratoga | huh SPC doesn't build even though the codec memory usage page says its one of the smaller codecs |
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| 05:05:15 | saratoga | oh theres a different code path for the gigabeats |
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| 05:16:17 | CIA-63 | New commit by saratoga (r20780): Enable WMA, MPC, ASAP, NSF, APE, and SID playback on the Sansa clip as these codecs already fit into IRAM. SPC could be made to fit by changing ... |
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| 05:17:54 | Sjano | Hello |
| 05:19:22 | Sjano | I was just wondering, how do the diffrent types of music files compare to eachother when thinking about battery lifetime on rockbox? or is there only a little to nothing in diffrence? |
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| 05:22:29 | saratoga | Sjano: check out the CodecPerformanceComparison wiki page |
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| 05:25:45 | Sjano | Thanks... (should have looked there first, hehe) |
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| 05:28:33 | saratoga | i can get AAC building on the clip pretty easily, but i think the seek tables will render all but small files unplayable |
| 05:28:54 | saratoga | shoudl I just disable seeking ? |
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| 06:10:52 | CIA-63 | New commit by saratoga (r20782): Might as well enable SPC so that all codecs build on the Clip. Not yet real time. |
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| 06:24:03 | saratoga | hmm those memory defines were set for the Sansa m200 and Logik DAX ports |
| 06:26:25 | saratoga | linuxstb: I probably broke those ports, you want to suggest the proper defines to check for them? |
| 06:26:47 | saratoga | maybe ifdef TCC773L or if CODEC_SIZE <= 0x38000? |
| 06:27:14 | saratoga | that way AMS isn't restricted |
| 06:28:30 | saratoga | on the upside, AAC should now fit on TCC |
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| 06:38:40 | webguest72 | hey i have a quick question |
| 06:39:09 | webguest72 | i recently downloaded ubuntu and do i really need virus/spyware protection? |
| 06:39:34 | Llorean | This is #rockbox, maybe you were looking for #ubuntu? |
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| 06:40:21 | webguest72 | heloo anyone there? |
| 06:40:26 | webguest56 | hey |
| 06:41:11 | webguest56 | can anyone help me? |
| 06:41:23 | Unhelpful | webguest72: this is also not a chat channel. if you have a question about rockbox, go ahead and ask. if you don't, you're probably in the wrong place. |
| 06:41:23 | Llorean | webguest56: Depends on your question. |
| 06:41:51 | webguest72 | i recently downloaded ubuntu and do i really need virus/spyware protection |
| 06:42:04 | Llorean | webguest72: This is #Rockbox, that question has nothing to do with Rockbox. |
| 06:42:17 | Llorean | If you wish to ask about Ubuntu, I suggest seeking help in #ubuntu instead. |
| 06:42:20 | webguest72 | i know but someone might know |
| 06:42:38 | webguest72 | the answer to my question |
| 06:42:48 | Llorean | This channel is on-topic. Please do not ask questions about things other than Rockbox here. |
| 06:42:56 | webguest56 | let her ask the question on ubuntu |
| 06:42:57 | webguest56 | sheesh |
| 06:43:09 | webguest56 | someone might be able to help him/her |
| 06:43:24 | Llorean | webguest56: 1) You have the same IP address. We're not likely to believe you're a different person since, at the very least, you're on the same network. |
| 06:43:24 | webguest72 | true^ |
| 06:43:35 | Llorean | 2) This channel has rules. Follow them or you will be asked to leave. |
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| 06:43:45 | Llorean | There are plenty of other places you can seek help for Ubuntu questions. |
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| 06:45:48 | saratoga | amazing |
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| 07:21:05 | FlynDice | anyone have time to help me with a linking script for ams sansa? |
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| 07:31:34 | saratoga_home | FlynDice: doubt i'll be much help but i'm interested to hear what you're working on |
| 07:34:40 | FlynDice | well I think the empty space we reserve in iram in current svn to copy the vectors to is getting copied in front of tne main firmware we load at 0x0 with the mmu patch. Here's a link to the patched app.lds. http://pastie.org/457840 |
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| 07:36:02 | saratoga_home | and this is why you can't start with MMU enabled? |
| 07:36:20 | FlynDice | I haven't been able to work out how to remove it. It explains why I can get rockbox to boot if I jump to 0x44 but not to 0x0 |
| 07:37:36 | FlynDice | and rockbox.map would be consistent with this theory |
| 07:40:31 | FlynDice | trial and error(my main tool....) has not served me well in figuring this one out ;) |
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| 09:52:35 | hotdog | Is there any development for the zune? |
| 09:52:54 | hotdog | or is the zune too locked up right now? |
| 09:57:52 | _Auron_ | that or no one has pursued interest in development for it yet |
| 09:59:47 | Llorean | The forum thread and wiki pages will be updated if anyone's ever working on it. |
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| 10:06:08 | Urigeller23 | alright who want's to hear the story of how rockbox killed my ipod (well, not really)? I had the problem that after showing the apple logo my ipod went a) to the sad ipod icon or b) if tried to boot in disk mode to the folder icon with the warning sign |
| 10:08:26 | Urigeller23 | after trying to access it via dd in disk mode (which failed, since no machine actually recognized it) I decided to simply open it in frustration |
| 10:09:19 | Urigeller23 | guess what.. after disconnecting and reconnecting the harddisk cable it works again ^^ |
| 10:09:55 | _Auron_ | lol! |
| 10:11:08 | Urigeller23 | definitely one of the stranger "bugs" I've encountered in the last time.. |
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| 10:13:46 | motionman95 | Hello? |
| 10:14:13 | motionman95 | Are the people who manage FlySpray online? |
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| 10:56:53 | MT | linuxstb : Hi .. Do you know how I could make ffmpeg produce raw decoded frames to separate files ? |
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| 12:51:26 | MT | Ladies and Gentlemen, We have sound ! \o/ |
| 12:51:47 | MT | Converted RM -> wav |
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| 12:57:14 | * | stripwax \o/ |
| 12:57:28 | stripwax | on target, right? :) |
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| 12:59:43 | MT | stripwax : that would make the soc project complete .. it's a "We have sound !" of a slightly different kind :P |
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| 13:00:14 | MT | now phase 1 of the project is *almost* complete |
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| 13:07:47 | [Elvis] | hello guys |
| 13:08:16 | [Elvis] | I was wondering...I'm trying to install rockbox on my ipod...is the program compatible with the ipod nano 3rde generation...as I only see the 1ste generation as an option |
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| 13:10:08 | pixelma | what does the frontpage say? |
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| 13:10:40 | [Elvis] | ah i see |
| 13:10:48 | [Elvis] | is that because of the apple firmware lock? |
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| 13:11:28 | pixelma | yes + new undocumented hardware + noone seems to be willing to do the work |
| 13:11:40 | BigBambi | MT: Congratulations, excellent progress :) |
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| 13:15:20 | motionman95 | Are the people who manage FlySpray online? |
| 13:19:28 | motionman95 | Hello? |
| 13:19:48 | BigBambi | motionman95: they read the logs geberally, they will get back to you |
| 13:20:04 | BigBambi | try ping: Bagder |
| 13:20:10 | BigBambi | then he will see he was mentioned |
| 13:21:08 | pixelma | [Elvis]: out of curiosity: how did you find the documentation on how to install Rockbox? Asking because you seem to have overlooked the list of players it works on and it would be cool to know how we could improve that |
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| 13:25:18 | CIA-63 | New commit by stripwax (r20783): Commit FS #9882 - make better use of iram at different quality encodings, remove redundant memsets, implement doublebuffer if it will fit in iram to ... |
| 13:25:51 | thrashold | Hello. The upgrade info says `The database format has changed since 3.1 so the rockbox database must be rebuilt to be usable after the upgrade. The manual has the detailed instructions for doing this. ' Where? |
| 13:26:17 | * | stripwax watches the build table ... |
| 13:30:19 | pixelma | thrashold: I guess the interesting bits are in the database chapter - initialisation and export/import modification (if you use something like rating or gather runtime data) |
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| 13:31:30 | pixelma | under Browsing and playing |
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| 13:33:06 | thrashold | Thank you :) |
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| 13:37:45 | stripwax | first commit! |
| 13:38:35 | MT | BigBambi : Thanks :) .. it still needs some cleaning though. |
| 13:40:16 | MT | stripwax : congrats :) |
| 13:40:28 | stripwax | :) |
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| 14:08:08 | BigBambi | stripwax: second, surely |
| 14:08:23 | stripwax | well technically, true. |
| 14:08:34 | BigBambi | that's the best kind of true! |
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| 16:22:54 | funman | flyndice is online on the forum but not here :( |
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| 16:26:59 | bertrik | oh hi funman, I think I read something about you getting very low CPU usage on ams sansa |
| 16:27:13 | bertrik | for playback I mean |
| 16:27:39 | funman | bertrik: yes, I commented on the forum thread; it was with caching & buffering enabled for IRAM only, and was still very unstable |
| 16:28:37 | bertrik | there was also talk about making the ams sansa codec/i2c driver interrupt driven, this should be doable now I think |
| 16:29:42 | funman | I didn't mesure the delays but i'm not sure if it's worth (delay might be shorter than a switch_thread()), and we miss the I2C registers description (error flags for example) |
| 16:30:24 | bertrik | the delay that's currently used rather crude, I wouldn't be surprised if we could lower it by a factor of 10 |
| 16:31:08 | funman | I meant the "while i2c_busy() ;" |
| 16:31:43 | bertrik | oh I'm confused with the i2c for the radio |
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| 16:32:38 | bertrik | if we set the clocks right (400 kHz), then it should be about 75 us max |
| 16:32:55 | funman | oh ok, FM isn't cpu intensive so it's less important |
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| 16:36:44 | funman | do you think we could use GPIO interrupts ? |
| 16:38:19 | bertrik | I have no idea |
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| 16:42:43 | bertrik | hm can't we enable charging for the fuze? we don't know the exact charging current used by the OF but we do know the battery capacity now |
| 16:43:29 | funman | how can you know the charging current used ? some as3514 register setting ? |
| 16:45:24 | bertrik | yes we could look in the OF, or simply measure it with a multimeter. |
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| 17:15:29 | motionman95 | Are the people who manage FlySpray online? |
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| 17:18:42 | gevaerts | motionman95: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/FlySpray has information about who to talk to, including an emaul address :) |
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| 17:53:50 | motionman95 | gevaerts: It doesn't really tell me who who talk to... |
| 17:54:12 | BigBambi | "If you have any problem with this, contact Zagor (Björn Stenberg), either in mail or on IRC" |
| 17:54:38 | BigBambi | and the word mail is a link to his e-mail address |
| 17:55:23 | motionman95 | Whoops, didn't see that. Sorry! Anyway, I give him an email. Does he often reply? |
| 17:55:30 | BigBambi | Why not try |
| 17:56:19 | markun | motionman95: but Zagor also is here quite often |
| 17:56:50 | motionman95 | Well, I'll check back...see if he's online... |
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| 18:00:07 | motionman95 | Who's zarggg |
| 18:00:08 | motionman95 | ? |
| 18:00:22 | Zarggg | well, zarggg's just zis guy, you see? |
| 18:00:54 | BigBambi | on topic please |
| 18:01:01 | motionman95 | Yeah...never mind... =} |
| 18:01:32 | motionman95 | That email listed on the wiki is old, it doesn't work anymore. =( |
| 18:02:15 | motionman95 | I guess I'll just wait for him to come to the IRC... |
| 18:02:27 | BigBambi | yo removed the NOSPAM and put a . in right? |
| 18:02:41 | BigBambi | in fact, the . is there |
| 18:02:48 | BigBambi | But you did remove the NOSPAM? |
| 18:03:08 | motionman95 | No, I didn't change the email at all, my bad. |
| 18:03:12 | BigBambi | ... |
| 18:04:56 | motionman95 | Well, now that I've got that email sent, I want to ask a question... |
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| 18:06:43 | * | BigBambi wonders if a question will be forthcoming or not |
| 18:07:06 | * | motionman95 says that he's typing! |
| 18:08:46 | motionman95 | Are there any WPS gurus who would make my image (for sansa c250) into a WPS? |
| 18:09:10 | * | motionman95 says that it doesn't really take him that long to type... |
| 18:11:18 | robin0800 | motionman95: Post image in WPS forum and ask for help |
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| 18:42:13 | motionman95 | Well...for good measure, I'll post it here as well! (if that's okay) http://coderkid.co.cc/Rockbox/SansaPod.jpg |
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| 18:46:00 | krazykit | motionman95, that's actually quite a simple WPS. coding that yourself should be quite easy. http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS should tell you all you need to know about it |
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| 18:47:06 | * | motionman95 has tried to create a WPS, but failed miserably |
| 18:50:08 | kugel | jhMikeS: ping |
| 18:51:00 | motionman95 | @kugel: Could you help me with my Flyspray problem, or should I wait for Zagor? |
| 18:52:17 | kugel | You should wait for zagor |
| 18:53:45 | kugel | IIUC, only the Swedes (Bagder, LinusN, Zagor) have admin access to flyspray and the severs. At least I don't have, so I can't help you |
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| 18:58:36 | robin0800 | motionman95: The easiest way is to take an existing one and modify in a sim |
| 18:59:29 | soap | motionman95, I can't get your link to open |
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| 19:00:40 | robin0800 | motionman95: nor me |
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| 19:02:17 | saratoga_home | MT: have you looked through all the ffmpeg patches and figured out which were commited and which were not? |
| 19:02:20 | kugel | robin0800, soap: it took a while for me to load, but it loaded |
| 19:02:42 | MT | saratoga_home : no not yet. |
| 19:02:47 | saratoga_home | ok |
| 19:03:16 | MT | I saw the patches once marbanan posted the link and just had a quick look. |
| 19:03:22 | kugel | MT: just curious, what did you do to fix the broken output? |
| 19:03:47 | saratoga_home | i read through their email logs and it looks like some were accepted |
| 19:04:06 | saratoga_home | they also took care to make sure the codec could work in fixed and floating point |
| 19:04:51 | saratoga_home | i hate to remove that, but if its a lot of work or it clutters the code you may want to just drop floating point |
| 19:05:02 | saratoga_home | we don't need it at least |
| 19:05:44 | MT | kugel : stupid mistake , the decoder used extradata_size to determine the total number of sub-bands in the frequency domain, it read it from COOKContext and I, for some reason, forgot to initialize that |
| 19:06:10 | kugel | ah, glad that it works now |
| 19:06:23 | motionman95 | @robin0800 and soap: Try again: http://coderkid.co.cc/Rockbox/SansaPod.jpg |
| 19:06:31 | MT | saratoga_home : I was planning to drop the floating point part/ |
| 19:06:41 | saratoga_home | thats fine |
| 19:06:41 | MT | kugel : Thanks :) |
| 19:06:48 | * | motionman95 waits for zagor |
| 19:07:16 | motionman95 | @robin0800 and soap: Does it work? |
| 19:08:12 | MT | saratoga_home : I suppose the first patch (the one by Ian) was accepted, right ? |
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| 19:11:21 | motionman95 | ** /me want to see if this works.. |
| 19:11:28 | * | motionman95 cries. |
| 19:11:54 | krazykit | motionman95, have some patience. you'll get a response at some point. |
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| 19:15:46 | BigBambi | motionman95: You've also been told multiple times the three people that can help you with flyspray. Either wait for a response to your mail, or wait until one of them are active here. Please now stop asking the channel at large, and other specific people |
| 19:15:47 | * | motionman95 agrees with krazykit. |
| 19:16:07 | * | motionman95 agrees with BigBambi. |
| 19:16:45 | motionman95 | Yeah...I'm going to log out and come back later...see if they are here then... |
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| 20:15:54 | CIA-63 | New commit by kugel (r20784): Rename _buttonlight_timeout and use a function call instead of extern'ing buttonlight_timeout to be more inline with backlight, and use a #define ... |
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| 20:39:09 | CIA-63 | New commit by kugel (r20785): Fix red. |
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| 20:42:09 | Tomers | I am a bit stuck on the USB HID issue. I managed (or at least I think I did) to implement interrupt mode for the e200, but still the host rejects the HID message sent by the DAP. |
| 20:42:42 | fenugrec | HID report must be borked ! |
| 20:42:55 | fenugrec | have you tried on a win or linux machine ? |
| 20:43:10 | fenugrec | I've found linux is much less permissive on HID report errors... |
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| 20:45:04 | gevaerts | Have you looked with a tracer? If it looks OK there, I guess the interrupt transfers as such work |
| 20:45:45 | bertrik | Tomers, it's been a long time since I looked at HID, but what confused me was that there were 1 (or a few more bytes) sent in front of the HID report |
| 20:47:40 | Tomers | betrick: I'll check it out. What tool did you use for sniffing USB traffic? Did the HID device enumerated successfully? |
| 20:48:02 | Tomers | gevaerts: Can you commit "FS #10166 - USB arrangement - use constants and some cosmetics" ? |
| 20:48:23 | Tomers | gevaerts: I have some more work to be committed. I prefer doing it step-by-step |
| 20:48:31 | gevaerts | Tomers: I added a comment to it |
| 20:50:11 | gevaerts | I don't really like too much whitespace changes. Fixing constants to use defines is fine, but I think adding spaces around = all over the place or changing indentation style isn't needed |
| 20:50:54 | Tomers | gecaerts: I agree. I also got some changes put into this patch that weren't supposed to be there yet. I'll post a new one soon. |
| 20:51:14 | Tomers | gevaerts: I'm wasting some time upgrading to Ubuntu 9.04, so it takes me some more time |
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| 21:13:53 | kugel | kkurbjun (for the logs): I'd like to commit a lcd_enable simulation for the sims, but it'll potentially break the targets which haven't been cleaned up w.r.t HAVE_LCD_ENABLE/HAVE_LCD_SLEEP (which is only the gigabeats and mrobe afaik) |
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| 21:23:43 | CIA-63 | New commit by kugel (r20786): Setting do_full_update isn't actually needed, since the track changed event will set it if needed. |
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| 21:43:12 | saratoga | motionman95: this is an on topic channel, if you want to continue using it, stay on topic |
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| 22:07:05 | Tomers | The svn server is ssssslllllloooooooww |
| 22:08:12 | * | bluebrother hands Tomers an svn server using mod_dav_svn |
| 22:10:16 | Tomers | bluebrother: What is it exactly? Isn't it an Apache module? How can it help me in anyway? |
| 22:10:51 | bluebrother | it doesn't help. It's a different way to access a svn repository, and using http for accessing an svn repo is _noticably_ slower than svnserve |
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| 22:13:02 | Tomers | I was referring to having a very slow svn checkout, using the command svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk rockbox |
| 22:13:17 | bluebrother | I know. |
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| 22:13:48 | bluebrother | the point is that svnserve is the fastest way to access a repo. If it's slow either the server is slow by itself or the network has issues |
| 22:15:24 | bluebrother | just tried a fresh checkout. Took ~59 seconds ... |
| 22:16:29 | Tomers | when you say svnserve did you mean browsing the code @ http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/ , or is there a way I can checkout faster? BTW I'm doing it from a virtual Ubuntu machine running under Vista host. That may explain this |
| 22:17:12 | bluebrother | depends on how fast your vm is. My vm (w2k) isn't much slower than a real one. |
| 22:17:37 | bluebrother | an svn repo accessed via svn:// is using svnserve. If it uses http:// it uses apache. |
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| 22:19:16 | Tomers | So I'm using svnserve. And my VM's speed is OK... |
| 22:20:31 | bluebrother | what I wanted to say with my initial comment: a checkout should be fast. If not something is wrong with your network (or your uplink or machine) |
| 22:21:01 | bluebrother | are you checking out on a shared folder / samba share? |
| 22:24:00 | Tomers | No. It's a newly created VM with no special configuration. My internet connection is OK, and I can see videos from youtube etc, with no problems. I'll investigate. Let's leave this. I just wanted to make sure there's no issues with the server. |
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| 22:30:12 | Bnakai067 | Can some one help me? |
| 22:30:17 | Bnakai067 | PLZ |
| 22:30:43 | * | Bagder takes a guess at the problem and answers: 42 |
| 22:30:52 | Bnakai067 | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=21380.0 |
| 22:31:01 | Bnakai067 | I need help with that |
| 22:32:08 | bluebrother | Bnakai067: open your browser. Type that address. Press enter. |
| 22:32:24 | Bnakai067 | No |
| 22:32:34 | Bnakai067 | My problem is in that forum |
| 22:32:51 | Bnakai067 | I already psoted it up there |
| 22:32:55 | bluebrother | what is "that forum" as a problem? It works |
| 22:33:08 | Bnakai067 | I need help with my sansa |
| 22:33:25 | saratoga | Bnakai067: i tried to help you the last time you asked but you never answered me |
| 22:34:12 | Bnakai067 | Srry...I had to go loast time |
| 22:34:15 | Bnakai067 | last* |
| 22:34:22 | bluebrother | the next-to-last post kinda indicates me that you were the problem for the people that tried to help |
| 22:35:28 | Bnakai067 | I tried giving them information....But I dont understand what they want |
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| 22:36:27 | BigBambi | Answers and information |
| 22:36:35 | BigBambi | such as Rockbox version for a start |
| 22:36:44 | Bnakai067 | I got the latest |
| 22:36:56 | soap | Bnakai067, you never answered the questions Chronon asked 4 days ago. |
| 22:36:59 | BigBambi | Release or current build |
| 22:37:16 | Bnakai067 | Huh? Whats that? |
| 22:37:23 | BigBambi | Bnakai067: Please just tell me the actual version |
| 22:38:00 | bluebrother | how did you install? |
| 22:38:10 | Bnakai067 | Via Rockbox installer |
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| 22:38:46 | BigBambi | which version of Rockbox? |
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| 22:39:00 | Bnakai067 | OMG.....my sansa isnt working anymore....its just blinking |
| 22:39:12 | Bnakai067 | I cant tell which verion |
| 22:39:27 | kugel | can someone figure out the onda red? |
| 22:39:32 | kugel | mcuelenaere: ping |
| 22:39:44 | bluebrother | and how exactly? What button did you use? What did Rockbox Utility tell you? |
| 22:40:00 | Bnakai067 | I got my rockbox a week ago |
| 22:40:20 | bluebrother | this doesn't help a bit |
| 22:40:21 | Bnakai067 | Using the latest rockbox utility for my sansa 250 |
| 22:40:41 | BigBambi | Bnakai067: Seriously, if you want help you need to answer the questions |
| 22:40:50 | Bnakai067 | I dont understand what you want from me |
| 22:41:05 | BigBambi | Read the questions you have been asked, and answer them |
| 22:41:07 | bluebrother | "latest" doesn't include any version number. It also doesn't tell *what* you installed. Rockbox Utility can do serveral things |
| 22:41:08 | Bnakai067 | I have been giving you answers |
| 22:41:20 | BigBambi | not to the questions we asked |
| 22:41:21 | Bnakai067 | Then I dont know |
| 22:41:30 | bluebrother | Bnakai067: no. Stop claiming to answer questions you didn't answer. |
| 22:41:39 | BigBambi | Bnakai067: then it i very hard to help |
| 22:41:42 | bluebrother | if you don't understand the question then ask about that. |
| 22:42:09 | BigBambi | Bnakai067: We need to know either exactly how you intalled - what button you pressed etc., or the exact version number of Rockbox |
| 22:42:10 | Bnakai067 | Rockbox 3.2 |
| 22:42:14 | BigBambi | right |
| 22:42:22 | bluebrother | fascinating. Now it worked. |
| 22:42:25 | BigBambi | thank you |
| 22:42:50 | BigBambi | Bnakai067: When you insert the USB cable with Rockbox running, it should reboot to the Sansa OF and then connect |
| 22:42:54 | mcuelenaere | kugel: pong |
| 22:42:57 | Bnakai067 | On the blinking picture on my rockbox it says I Boot ver. .0 |
| 22:43:02 | kugel | mcuelenaere: the onda red is weird |
| 22:43:09 | Bnakai067 | 5.0) |
| 22:43:30 | * | mcuelenaere looks |
| 22:43:35 | BigBambi | Bnakai067: That is the bootloader version |
| 22:43:54 | BigBambi | Bnakai067: When you plug in the USB cable from the Sansa firmware, does it work? |
| 22:44:01 | Bnakai067 | No |
| 22:44:23 | BigBambi | then there is some other problem |
| 22:44:32 | BigBambi | Rockbox doesn't affect the Sansa firmware |
| 22:44:44 | saratoga | hey you finally answered my question about if it worked in the original firmware! |
| 22:44:53 | kugel | the parts which are red are covered by defined(BACKLIGHT_FULL_INIT). BACKLIGHT_FULL_INIT is not #defined in the bootloader. without this backlight_timeout is a #define (which is why it's red, but that part of the code shouldn't even be compiled) |
| 22:44:55 | Bnakai067 | When my sansa was normal it would only connect and charge when it was on...when it was of it only charge but not connect |
| 22:45:23 | BigBambi | Bnakai067: Let's try and keep this simple |
| 22:45:23 | Bnakai067 | off* |
| 22:45:28 | robin0800 | Bnakai067: Wrong Usb setting in sansa firmware? |
| 22:45:39 | Bnakai067 | I tried both |
| 22:45:42 | BigBambi | Bnakai067: do exactly what I tell you and then tell me exactly what happens |
| 22:45:49 | Bnakai067 | Ok |
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| 22:46:05 | BigBambi | So boot into the Sansa firmware by holding left whilst turning your player on |
| 22:46:33 | bertrik | kugel, backlight_brightness is itself already a macro |
| 22:46:36 | kugel | it seems that gcc is wrong there :/ it's right in backlight.h (since it turns backlight_timeout into the #define), but not in backlight.c (it compiles the code which isn't to be compiled, but still uses the backlight_timeout #define) |
| 22:46:37 | mcuelenaere | kugel: target/mips/ingenic_jz47xx/onda_vx747/backlight-target.h seems to have BACKLIGHT_FULL_INIT defined, is that wrong? |
| 22:46:50 | kugel | yes it is :) |
| 22:46:57 | Bnakai067 | SOZ... my sansa is not charged |
| 22:47:00 | bertrik | oh wait, let me look a bit closer |
| 22:47:11 | mcuelenaere | kugel: so just removing that should fix it, |
| 22:47:12 | mcuelenaere | ?* |
| 22:47:36 | kugel | probably. or do you want full backlight support (including the backlight thread and stuff) in the bootloader? |
| 22:47:49 | * | mcuelenaere guesses not |
| 22:47:58 | Bnakai067 | Ok....my sansa is saying something |
| 22:48:31 | mcuelenaere | hmm, this is weird.. that BACKLIGHT_FULL_INIT #define is in a #ifdef BOOTLOADER .. |
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| 22:49:33 | kugel | well, if it wasn't it would throw errors in the main build |
| 22:50:09 | kugel | btw, backlight-target.h is the same file for all ondas, couldn't it be merged? |
| 22:50:20 | kugel | (and moved 1 dir up) |
| 22:50:36 | mcuelenaere | it probably could |
| 22:53:17 | CIA-63 | New commit by kugel (r20787): Fix onda red. Unlike all other targets, it built the whole backlight driver in the bootloader. |
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| 22:55:27 | CIA-63 | New commit by mcuelenaere (r20788): Merge Onda VX7?7 backlight-target.h |
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| 22:57:31 | bluebrother | any thoughts on a new idea to have the rbutil main screen? http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/rbutil-mainwindow-idea.jpg |
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| 22:58:02 | bluebrother | as we add more functionality the tabs are getting limiting somewhat. Not that I want to implement that right now, it's just an idea (well, for now ;-) |
| 22:58:06 | BigBambi | ooooh nice |
| 22:58:35 | BigBambi | I like that it is much more clear which version you are installing# |
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| 23:00:14 | bluebrother | it should also address the issue that only the main build allows selecting anything different than the current build |
| 23:01:18 | bluebrother | BigBambi: beware that it's just a mockup yet (no code −− just clicked it in designer and made a screenshot of the preview). But that's a really nice way to see how a UI would look like |
| 23:02:20 | BigBambi | bluebrother: Customise! |
| 23:02:46 | BigBambi | but yes, I like the idea |
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| 23:11:19 | CIA-63 | New commit by kugel (r20789): Restructure backlight timeout management a bit by factoring out the get_current_timeout code. No functional change. |
| 23:11:34 | soap | Why 'Archived Build'? |
| 23:12:56 | bluebrother | because we had them in the install dialog since the first version. Of course we could scrap that option the same time |
| 23:13:02 | bluebrother | as said, it's only an idea right now. |
| 23:13:27 | soap | I like the layout and options. Was just curious. |
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| 23:16:20 | _fml | bluebrother: I find the 'Installation' tab a bit disappointing. All the installation actions can be taken from the 'Quick start' (which I like!). What's the purpose of the 'Installation' tab then? |
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| 23:18:54 | bluebrother | _fml: the quick start tab doesn't do as much as the installation tab −− you can't install a current build for example |
| 23:19:06 | bertrik | kugel, I think some #include "backlight.h" instances can be removed, I think I'll commit the removal of some of those tonight |
| 23:19:21 | bluebrother | apart from that (and I'm in favor of merging those two) the installation tab was first −− quick start was added later. |
| 23:20:07 | domonoky | yes, with this new the design the installation can be merged. |
| 23:20:15 | domonoky | +tab |
| 23:21:31 | bluebrother | new "during installation" mockup: http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/rbutil-mainwindow-idea2.jpg |
| 23:21:39 | domonoky | or to be more correct all three tabs (quick start, install, extras) can be merged. |
| 23:22:00 | bluebrother | yeps. |
| 23:22:08 | bluebrother | which is a good thing :) |
| 23:22:53 | domonoky | jup |
| 23:23:17 | bluebrother | we really need to finish that other stuff so we can start doing this :) |
| 23:23:53 | domonoky | yes, currenty theme site is blocking things, correct ? |
| 23:23:54 | bluebrother | rasher: around? |
| 23:24:01 | bluebrother | right. |
| 23:24:17 | bluebrother | or: we could release, but it might hit us as "bug" |
| 23:25:09 | domonoky | if we can fix this on the themesite we can "magically" fix this bug without releaseing a new rbutil. |
| 23:25:32 | bluebrother | true, but we need a new release anyway |
| 23:26:15 | domonoky | or else we could now release a rbutil with a "hotfix" (another list of targetnames) which we can removed, when the theme site is fixed. |
| 23:27:10 | * | bluebrother would prefer to hear rasher's opinion about the issue first |
| 23:27:38 | domonoky | is rasher the only one with access to the themesite db ? |
| 23:27:47 | * | scorche waves |
| 23:28:01 | bluebrother | at least he made the php code |
| 23:28:46 | domonoky | from what i can read from the theme site code, we only need more target definitions in the theme db. |
| 23:32:59 | CIA-63 | New commit by bertrik (r20790): Remove unnecessary #include "backlight.h" |
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