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| 00:10:24 | bluebrother | domonoky: platform isn't written with two t's in english ;) |
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| 00:11:50 | domonoky | if thats the biggest problem, i am happy :-) |
| 00:13:24 | bluebrother | well, I guess I'm going to have a few other comments as well. But it's quite late now. I'll get back to you tomorrow (with more energy to concentrate on that code :) |
| 00:14:27 | domonoky | thats fine. |
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| 00:36:13 | tapiocapudding | i'm trying to edit the lang file to change the "Rockbox" string at the top of the main menu. i'm following the guide at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LangFiles, but i can't follow it, it says to refer to the configure script to find the id number for my build in /rockbox-xxxxx/tools, but the script refuses to run |
| 00:36:17 | tapiocapudding | i'm using an iPod nano |
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| 01:26:02 | CIA-63 | New commit by kkurbjun (r20846): M:Robe 500 - Fix some of the Keymaps, touchscreen improvements to decrease inacurate reads, add support for dynamic frequency (was running at 87.5 ... |
| 01:28:14 | hillshum | On targets with scrollwheels, in plugins with a grid, should all four keys be used instead of using the wheel for the up and down part? |
| 01:28:32 | hillshum | in moving around on said grid |
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| 01:30:02 | brixq | hey all |
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| 01:30:35 | brixq | has anyone had problems with the sansa c250? I've been using one with rockbox for a little less than a year |
| 01:30:54 | brixq | and it won't accept read/write permission changes now |
| 01:31:07 | hillshum | have you formatted it? |
| 01:31:10 | BigBambi | fat32 doesn't support permissions |
| 01:31:38 | BigBambi | If you are using linux, it'll be either being mounted as read only, or the mount point permissions are wrong |
| 01:31:39 | brixq | I have formatted it, and I've changed the umask settings in my /etc/fstab file to 000 |
| 01:31:55 | brixq | afteer formatting, I attemped a reinstall |
| 01:31:57 | brixq | though |
| 01:32:10 | brixq | only the .rockbox file was written (not the dir) |
| 01:32:23 | BigBambi | do a disk check - if there are any filesystem problems it'll be mounted as read only |
| 01:32:35 | Llorean | brixq: There is no .rockbox file, the only thing named .rockbox is a folder |
| 01:32:35 | brixq | I used `sync` and everything, but it failed to write |
| 01:32:44 | BigBambi | And there isn't a .rockbox file |
| 01:32:49 | brixq | yeah, that's what's odd |
| 01:32:50 | BigBambi | ah, too late :) |
| 01:33:09 | brixq | ^ I used dosfsck |
| 01:33:30 | BigBambi | and does mount tell you that it is mounted rw? |
| 01:33:45 | brixq | nope, ro |
| 01:33:58 | brixq | my fstab options have it set for users and rw, though |
| 01:34:11 | BigBambi | I suspect filesystem errors |
| 01:34:20 | brixq | That's kind f what I was thinking |
| 01:34:34 | brixq | though the built-in format option seems to not have fixed the issue |
| 01:34:36 | BigBambi | and if you check logs it'll say something like file system errors, mounting read only |
| 01:34:50 | BigBambi | formatting may well not, depending on the problem |
| 01:35:10 | brixq | Hmm. That's unfortunate |
| 01:35:32 | BigBambi | fsck.vfat isn't too bad, it normally finds most things |
| 01:35:34 | brixq | It's seen a lot of use; do you think the memory could be getting worn out? |
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| 01:35:57 | BigBambi | brixq: You need to check your logs and find out why it is being mounted ro |
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| 01:37:12 | brixq | from my logs: "kernel: fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain " |
| 01:37:22 | brixq | that's the reason stated for mounting ro |
| 01:37:48 | BigBambi | fsck.vfat normally sorts that out |
| 01:37:53 | brixq | I get this issue on several different machines, several diff distros, and several diff kernels |
| 01:38:00 | brixq | ^I'll give that a shot |
| 01:38:12 | BigBambi | yeah, as the c200 filesystem is still broken on all of those :) |
| 01:38:23 | BigBambi | make sure it isn't mounted when you run it |
| 01:38:52 | brixq | Invalid disk format in boot sector |
| 01:39:39 | brixq | I don't quite understand how to fix that, as fsck.vfat doesn't correct the problem |
| 01:39:40 | BigBambi | This isn't really Rockbox related - try fixing those errors then it should be OK. You can always pop into #rockbox-community as well |
| 01:40:35 | brixq | I figured this was the player. I didn't want to get run off from a sansa channel by having people automatically blame the problem on rockbox |
| 01:40:49 | brixq | I appreciate the hlp, though |
| 01:41:04 | BigBambi | no problem |
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| 02:11:03 | CIA-63 | New commit by kkurbjun (r20847): Fix red |
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| 03:34:21 | AlHaz | Just a heads up - you can pretty much drop an MK1214GAH (120gb) into a Gigabeat S60, let the bootloader partition and format, and dump in the bootloader. I say "just about" because what i actually did was use sendfirm to push the OF v1.1 NK.bin (to avoid issues with later versions of the OF) and then pushed the single-mode rockbox bootloader. |
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| 03:34:48 | AlHaz | this is convenient, because sane operating systems refuse to partition the drive the way that the bootloader inexplicably likes it. |
| 03:35:33 | AlHaz | I used sendfirm because i cannot find the v1.1 gigabeat restore tool. |
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| 04:37:29 | hillshum | motionman95: did you ever get registered on flyspray? |
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| 04:38:47 | motionman95 | Unfortunately, no, I still can't receive the email. =( But I followed a good tip and made sure my plugin conformed to the docs/CONTRIBUTING file. |
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| 04:39:45 | hillshum | Would it be alright if I posted it? (Giving you full credit of course) |
| 04:40:31 | motionman95 | Sure, thanks! That would be awesome! I want to mention that, it's not perfect, of course, but for now it works! |
| 04:40:42 | motionman95 | I'll proceed to upload the file... |
| 04:41:04 | motionman95 | http://mibbit.com/up/sAbWDz1X.c - There you go... |
| 04:41:18 | * | motionman95 says that he will be right back... |
| 04:41:20 | hillshum | I have to move a dresser right now so just a sec |
| 04:42:56 | * | motionman95 is back, will wait for hillshum... |
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| 04:47:21 | hillshum | motionman95: could you make it a diff? |
| 04:48:01 | hillshum | if not I can get my svn trunk mounted rw to do it... |
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| 04:48:59 | motionman95 | Sorry to make you have to do that, but could you? I'm not at my home Pc. Also, could you tell me if there is an age limit for contribution to rockbox? I'm 13... |
| 04:49:30 | hillshum | I don't really know. Your full name is needed at least. |
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| 04:49:47 | motionman95 | Cool! |
| 04:50:06 | * | motionman95 has to use the restroom, he will be right back. LOL |
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| 04:53:01 | * | motionman95 is back... |
| 04:53:32 | hillshum | Okay. It's taking me a while. Might not get it done til monday |
| 04:53:49 | motionman95 | Is there such a think as an FM Radio wps? |
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| 04:55:40 | hillshum | motionman95: on the Flyspray email, it's not in a spam folder is it? And you're not using a Verizon account? |
| 04:56:15 | motionman95 | No. Oh, and how do you make a diff from a .c file that has no oldfile? "diff -u theme_del.c theme_del.c > patch"? |
| 04:56:52 | hillshum | 'svn add' |
| 04:57:08 | hillshum | than 'svn diff' |
| 04:57:21 | hillshum | Or something like that. |
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| 05:00:05 | motionman95 | svn: '.' is not a working copy svn: Can't open file '.svn/entries': No such file or directory |
| 05:00:43 | hillshum | Check the docs(man pages, help outputs) |
| 05:01:05 | scorche|sh | motionman95: did you use svn or a tarball to get the source? |
| 05:01:22 | motionman95 | uhh...tarball. |
| 05:01:27 | hillshum | use svn |
| 05:01:44 | motionman95 | Okay.. |
| 05:02:02 | motionman95 | delete my existing files? |
| 05:02:44 | hillshum | it's lockbox.c right? |
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| 05:03:31 | kugel | kkurbjun: hey! nice that you got fading to work |
| 05:03:39 | motionman95 | what's lockbox.c? no, it's called theme_del.c and I have another plugin called rocklock.c |
| 05:03:54 | hillshum | Okay |
| 05:04:07 | kugel | however, the _backlight_on procedure looks like a typical case for BACKLIGHT_FADING_SW_SETTING to me |
| 05:05:56 | kugel | and I don't quite understand what _backlight_dim is needed for :) |
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| 05:08:15 | * | kugel thinks there should maybe exist a wiki page about backlight fading. There's at leat 4 appracges |
| 05:08:33 | hillshum | motionman95: it's for all targets right? |
| 05:08:34 | kugel | approaches too |
| 05:10:34 | motionman95 | hillshum: Yes. I'm downloading the source right now... |
| 05:10:49 | * | motionman95 will be right back... |
| 05:10:57 | hillshum | And what's your full name? |
| 05:14:31 | * | kugel is starting such a page |
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| 05:30:51 | hillshum | motionman95: I'm compiling to make sure everything works right now. This box is slow so it will be a while |
| 05:31:27 | Llorean | hillshum: You should probably wait until he can get the whole flyspray registration issue worked out |
| 05:31:38 | Llorean | Otherwise he won't really be able to update his patch, respond to comments on flyspray, etc. |
| 05:32:25 | hillshum | I know. Who admins it? The haxx trio? |
| 05:32:45 | Llorean | He's been directed to try to talk with Zagor several times, I believe |
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| 05:37:11 | * | motionman95 apoligizes for being gone so long... |
| 05:37:52 | kugel | kkurbjun: ideally, a target for which _backlight_on() is only a wappter for _backlight_se_brightness() , it should use BACKLIGHT_FADING_SW_SETTING. I started a wiki page about this issue (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BacklightFading, work in progress) |
| 05:37:52 | hillshum | motionman95: have you asked Zagor about FlySpray? |
| 05:39:11 | * | kugel defintely needs to read up on twiki syntax :/ |
| 05:39:44 | kugel | the greater plan is to document the whole backlight api anyway |
| 05:40:23 | * | kugel likes forming badly maintainable code into a portable api-like code too |
| 05:45:50 | motionman95 | After making a diff, how do I copy it? |
| 05:46:19 | kugel | o.O |
| 05:46:24 | kugel | s |
| 05:46:28 | kugel | ctrl+c? |
| 05:46:34 | scorche|sh | same way you would copy anything else? |
| 05:46:48 | motionman95 | I used "svn diff" |
| 05:46:59 | kugel | have you used the > thing? |
| 05:47:16 | kugel | i.e. svn diff > patch.diff will get you a patch file |
| 05:47:24 | motionman95 | Woops.... |
| 05:47:27 | motionman95 | tee hee... |
| 05:47:33 | kugel | if not, you'll be able to c&p from the console |
| 05:48:06 | hillshum | on a Linux terminal emulator, ctrl+shift+c to copy |
| 05:48:19 | FlynDice | kugel: would you like me to post a patch for the mmu-arm.S bus setting routines isolated out? |
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| 05:49:25 | kugel | FlynDice: the latest patches don't include stuff in mmu-arm.S :/ |
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| 05:50:01 | * | motionman95 procceds to upload da diff |
| 05:50:02 | kugel | I'm not opposed to commit #ifdef'd out stuff into that file though if it's likely to be used later and making patches easier |
| 05:50:35 | hillshum | motionman95: did you add theme_del.c to SOURCES and CATEGORIES ? |
| 05:51:05 | motionman95 | Forgot to. Let me re-diff.... |
| 05:51:05 | kugel | FlynDice: What do you think of my #define cleanup? I |
| 05:51:11 | Llorean | motionman95: Did you ever get in contact with Zagor? |
| 05:51:18 | FlynDice | kugel: yes because I tried to stick with what was in svn if I could. |
| 05:51:33 | kugel | I tend to commit it, so that changes to the .lds files wouldn't be needed anymore |
| 05:51:35 | Llorean | motionman95: You may have missed it while you were gone, but I don't think it's a good idea to have someone else post your patches to flyspray, since you won't be able to then respond to comments on it or upload fixes. |
| 05:52:18 | motionman95 | Well, maybe so, but I'm really eager to get it online after all my work. |
| 05:53:09 | Llorean | There are many ways you could've resolved this issue. |
| 05:53:29 | Llorean | You could've signed up for a gmail account or similar, and tried using that for flyspray, or simply actually gotten in contact with Zagor. |
| 05:54:10 | kugel | motionman95: We're not the poeple which are keen on stealing credits. Ask *any*one to upload it for you, and the person will name you in the task, and the person committing it will name you too (in the case it is committed) |
| 05:54:35 | Llorean | kugel: I just told him *not* to have someone upload it to flyspray for him |
| 05:54:47 | kugel | or you could be more patient to ask the flyspray admins (=Zagor apprarently) to help you with it |
| 05:54:57 | Llorean | kugel: There's no way he can respond to comments or fix the patch if he's constantly depending on someone else to do his uploads, so he really needs to get the issue resolved one way or another. |
| 05:55:02 | FlynDice | kugel: I thought it worked well. I had to add that one extra DRAMORIG to get it to link though, did you fix that? |
| 05:55:25 | hillshum | motionman95: Oh, also, you don't want to be deleting the font, as that is usually kept separate from the theme, |
| 05:55:27 | kugel | Llorean: What's the point of starting a discussion with me now? |
| 05:55:54 | motionman95 | I haven't been able to contact Zagor, so I guess I'm stuck with the new email option. What email services can I use? |
| 05:55:59 | Llorean | kugel: It seemed to me you misunderstood the situation, since at no point did he bring up the fear of not receiving credit. |
| 05:56:18 | scorche|sh | motionman95: have you even made an effort?...he has been around lately.. |
| 05:56:45 | hillshum | motionman95: Gmail is best |
| 05:57:08 | motionman95 | Ugh, I don't really like gmail, but if you say so... |
| 05:57:09 | kugel | FlynDice: Not really, but I would appreciate if you'd volunteer to upload a fixed-up version that only contains that (I'd to myself too if you don't want too) |
| 05:57:34 | hillshum | or yahoo or hotmail |
| 05:57:37 | Llorean | motionman95: In what ways did you try to contact Zagor? |
| 05:57:53 | Llorean | Maybe we can recommend one you didn't try. |
| 05:59:02 | kugel | FlynDice: What I'm trying to do (which is currently the very least to contribute to this issue) is to make working with the patches easier |
| 05:59:09 | hillshum | BTW, what email service are you using now? |
| 05:59:36 | kugel | I, myself, got stuck at trying to apply funman's patches. I've asked him today to get a sync'd tree today |
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| 06:00:37 | kugel | It's a bit sad that I can't concentrate more on that, but that doesn't mean I can't make it easier for you in terms of creating patches against SVN :) |
| 06:02:15 | kugel | Llorean: saying " I'm really eager to get it online after all my work" but still not accepting someone else to uplpoad it is a typical sign of "fear of not getting the credits". Sorry if I got it wrong |
| 06:02:29 | kugel | asking him doesn't harm though, I think |
| 06:02:50 | Llorean | kugel: He was accepting someone's offer to upload for him. I then told the two of them they probably shouldn't do it that way |
| 06:02:55 | scorche|sh | kugel: there was a lot more than just that one line in the conversation... |
| 06:03:18 | hillshum | <hillshum> Would it be alright if I posted it? (Giving you full credit of course) |
| 06:03:23 | kugel | Ok, sorry then |
| 06:04:37 | kugel | FlynDice: what do you think of mm- |
| 06:04:39 | kugel | uj |
| 06:04:41 | kugel | + |
| 06:04:56 | kugel | mmu-arm.S additions are needed (sorry for the spam) |
| 06:05:08 | kugel | funman said neither are |
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| 06:13:36 | kugel | FlynDice: So, do you want it the mmu addions in? I'm in the mood to make develeopent on the caching thing easier and faster (as it can be reverted later any). |
| 06:16:37 | FlynDice | kugel: sorry kid stuff going on here... They're not really necessary, they just make things easier to read ie mmu_bus_fast() or amba_bus_fast() instead of 4 lines of assembler |
| 06:17:28 | kugel | are other targets using it (not that it's deciding, there's a lot #ifdef IMX31 stuff in it too)? |
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| 06:19:22 | FlynDice | the IMX31 is all #ifdef'd for itself, but the exact same assembler routine is used in system-megfx.c to go from MAX to NORMAL speeds |
| 06:19:58 | kugel | heh |
| 06:21:01 | kugel | I'll look into it. Maybe you can upload a patch which contains the things you consider as worthwhile for SVN (to making developement easier) ? |
| 06:21:20 | FlynDice | I'll post it and see what kind of comments get made |
| 06:21:29 | kugel | the gigabeat f/x are quite similar to as3525 anyway |
| 06:21:57 | kugel | FlynDice: I don't think there need to be much comments |
| 06:22:06 | FlynDice | way more informative datasheet they got with that samsung chip though |
| 06:22:19 | kugel | the cpu is the same though |
| 06:22:30 | kugel | the only difference is the cache and iram *size* |
| 06:22:32 | FlynDice | besides the cache |
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| 06:23:34 | kugel | the iram is a breaker though, as it is so small that F/X doesn't even use it (only 4k) |
| 06:24:27 | kugel | FlynDice: btw, I really think we don't need to worry about the frame buffer thing, however, copying what the F/X does might be helping just for the sake of getting it to work :) |
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| 06:26:35 | kugel | FlynDice: There's three peoplw which are tangled by the AMS v2 issue (me, you and funman). If you consider it as worthile (and we're not considering as bad, which I'm unlikely too), we can commit it. If it turns out to be useless later, we remove it again and everything is fine |
| 06:27:24 | kugel | I *really* don't want to hesitate with committing code that actually helps to make the port happen |
| 06:27:38 | kugel | And I trust you in that particular area more than I trust myself |
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| 06:28:03 | zoyd | hi |
| 06:28:20 | FlynDice | I think it would be worthwhile. It _won't_ break anything anyway |
| 06:28:33 | kugel | Sounds like a deal :) |
| 06:29:12 | FlynDice | give me a few minutes, gotta put my kids to bed... |
| 06:29:31 | kugel | no problems, kids are more important |
| 06:32:07 | zoyd | does anyone have a ipod nano 1G and can can tell how the playback time compares with the factory firmware for common mp3s(128/256)? |
| 06:32:48 | krazykit | zoyd, battery life has generally been reported to be about the same as the OF if not better with rockbox |
| 06:32:52 | kugel | zoyd: that's the only page I can find: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodRuntime |
| 06:33:08 | * | zoyd check |
| 06:33:45 | zoyd | sounds good |
| 06:34:08 | kugel | given the best result, you're probably save assuming 12h, unless your battery is damaged or aged |
| 06:34:33 | kugel | (the best result seems pretty old already) |
| 06:34:50 | kugel | We'd welcome if you'd upload your results of course |
| 06:37:41 | zoyd | my brother has a nano and i'm trying to convince him to move to rockbox to extend the live of that player. i'll try and upload results of tests. |
| 06:37:54 | zoyd | s/live/life |
| 06:38:20 | kugel | apple claimps 10h right? |
| 06:38:34 | kugel | claims too |
| 06:39:39 | kugel | It's always depending on the codec (flac is way more efficient than AAC, f.e.). But 10h sounds like a reasonable expectation. NOTE that I'm not a ipod ownder at all |
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| 06:40:20 | zoyd | don't know really, i'll have to test with the factory setup before trying RB. |
| 06:41:21 | zoyd | also was wondering why philips flash players don't appear on the targets list |
| 06:42:13 | kugel | because it needs people actually working on a port |
| 06:42:25 | kugel | poeple with enough skills and a time |
| 06:43:17 | kugel | a port - most of the time - needs to be done from scratch, with regards to the firmware (i.e. driver) level |
| 06:43:46 | * | zoyd checks http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GoGearSA9200info |
| 06:44:28 | kugel | I think there's been some work on it, but no dev with enough endurance kept working on it |
| 06:45:07 | zoyd | i guess those players aren't as popular |
| 06:45:49 | kugel | A rockbox port doesn't depend on the popularity at all |
| 06:47:04 | kugel | The work is done voluntarily by people having fun at it. Greater popularity only helps at finding developers working on it due to the higher userbase, but generally a port can be done by 1 person which is the sole owner of a dap too |
| 06:47:28 | zoyd | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=ce77c290a800ec689169e527fa4c58a2&topic=15078.0 |
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| 08:26:25 | Rackattack | Need a little bit of help on installation. |
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| 10:41:51 | at0m|c | hi, building the database freezes my h300, displayed is "Building database... 5028 found (STOP to return)". Rockbox 3.2, had the same symptoms on any 'current built' I've tried the last weeks. Anyone happen to have an idea? |
| 10:42:15 | * | at0m|c looks for a paperclip to reset h300 |
| 10:43:56 | at0m|c | hd keeps spinning, but i don't hear read/writes... time for reset :) |
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| 12:40:12 | at0m|c | thought i had removed the last duplicates using fdupes (debian), db building still hangs, and always on a different number (4143, 5264,...) 'found'. so i'm excluding the duplicates now, which IIUC should be found at the same moment in the scan |
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| 14:01:23 | steveox | do u think rockbox will be made to work on ipod classic any time soon? 120gig ipod? |
| 14:02:49 | Horscht | are you planning on porting it? |
| 14:03:29 | steveox | porting? |
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| 14:04:30 | Horscht | are you planning on making it work on your ipod classic? |
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| 14:06:08 | mcuelenaere | bubsy: if you want to see debug messages in the ZVM bootloader while loading Rockbox, add #define logf printf to http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/firmware/target/arm/tms320dm320/creative-zvm/ata-creativezvm.c?view=markup |
| 14:06:16 | steveox | didnt know rockbox could be made to work on it has it already been done? |
| 14:06:48 | mcuelenaere | but reading/parsing the OF filesystem still isn't done |
| 14:07:13 | bertrik | steveox, I don't know exactly what is meant by ipod "classic" but the answer is probably no |
| 14:07:28 | bertrik | if it would be easy, someone would have already made it work probably |
| 14:08:29 | steveox | http://www.apple.com/ipodclassic/ |
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| 14:11:01 | bertrik | there are about 6 generations of ipod classic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipod_classic, a 120 GB would be a 6th gen and rockbox does not run on it: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodPort |
| 14:13:30 | steveox | =( |
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| 14:23:54 | BigBambi | bertrik: There aren't, wikipedia is wrong |
| 14:24:07 | BigBambi | bertrik: It calls every full size ipod "classic" |
| 14:24:35 | BigBambi | steveox: The Classic is the 6th gen, Rockbox works on generations 1 - 5.5 inclusive |
| 14:24:44 | bertrik | oh sorry about referring to it then |
| 14:25:34 | BigBambi | steveox: The problem with the 6th gen (or Classic) is not only does it have completely new undocumented hardware, but the firmware is encrypted. Until someone works out how to run custom code on it, there won't be any progress at all |
| 14:26:26 | BigBambi | bertrik: That wikipedia article seems to catch a few people out - apparently it comes from one speach by someone at Apple (Jobs I guess), where he referred to the classic ipod lineup, or something like that :) |
| 14:26:51 | BigBambi | *speech |
| 14:26:58 | at0m|c | hey, any of you happen to have an idea on my building the database freezing on h300? |
| 14:27:54 | BigBambi | at0m|c: The database sometimes hangs on building if there is a track with something a bit odd with the metadata |
| 14:28:20 | BigBambi | at0m|c: You could do a binary search to find the problematic tracks, then we can look at the track to see what the problem is |
| 14:28:48 | at0m|c | BigBambi: i first suspected utf8 duplicates, what puzzles me is it happens at different file counts |
| 14:29:08 | at0m|c | BigBambi: how would i do such binary search? any hints? |
| 14:29:11 | BigBambi | Yeah, a bit odd |
| 14:29:23 | BigBambi | at0m|c: Yes, you remove half the songs and try them |
| 14:29:30 | at0m|c | ah oki |
| 14:29:34 | BigBambi | If there are any problems remove another have etc |
| 14:29:39 | BigBambi | *half |
| 14:29:40 | at0m|c | right |
| 14:29:53 | BigBambi | That way you should be able to quite quickly narrow down to the problem |
| 14:29:58 | gevaerts | or you add a .database.ignore to half of your directories |
| 14:30:07 | BigBambi | or that, yes :) |
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| 14:32:57 | at0m|c | database.ignore needs a dot before it? |
| 14:33:17 | gevaerts | hm, better look it up... |
| 14:33:34 | * | at0m|c sees plain database.ignore in .rockbox, and got that from wiki too last week afaik |
| 14:33:44 | gevaerts | it's plain database.ignore |
| 14:33:51 | * | gevaerts apologises |
| 14:33:54 | at0m|c | :) |
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| 14:40:50 | * | rasher is starting to think the database code needs a better way of telling the world what is wrong |
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| 14:43:37 | BigBambi | rasher: Also, not just freezing if it doesn't like something |
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| 14:46:36 | Slasheri | db freezes during scan are almost always caused by the metadata parsing code, and there is not much possible to do to prevent that, unless the parser code is carefully analyzed and fixed not to trust any data it reads (similarly the db code should do) |
| 14:47:28 | BigBambi | Slasheri: So what is it doing when it freezes? Waiting for metadata to come back? |
| 14:47:46 | Slasheri | of course the db could log the progress to a file to make it easier to find the corrupt file. But that would slow down the scan |
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| 14:48:22 | gevaerts | could still be useful as a debug option |
| 14:48:27 | at0m|c | ehehe, db *still* crashes at 4236 something files, while there's only 264 files left in the only folder without database.ignore |
| 14:48:33 | at0m|c | weird |
| 14:48:36 | Slasheri | BigBambi: yep, the db is waiting metadata parsers to return the data. And there seems to be many kind of possible bugs in those parser code. For example endless loops, buffer overflows etc |
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| 14:49:15 | BigBambi | Slasheri: I don't suppose there is anyway to "timeout"? |
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| 14:49:21 | * | BigBambi is probably being silly now :) |
| 14:49:51 | Slasheri | BigBambi: hmm, in fact that could be possible, unless the parser makes the player to crash |
| 14:50:02 | BigBambi | at0m|c: Do you have any in a hidden recycle bin folder or anything? |
| 14:50:10 | Slasheri | BigBambi: in that case, we would need to brutally kill the tagcache thread and start it again |
| 14:50:11 | bertrik | if this was written in java, I'd unit test the hell out of it |
| 14:50:17 | Unhelpful | who knows the metadata parsers best, exactly? i'm trying to figure out how hard it would be to make them stash an offset to embedded album art in struct mp3entry. ;) |
| 14:50:24 | BigBambi | Slasheri: Maybe timeout, write the name of the problematic file to a log, then carry on? |
| 14:50:46 | at0m|c | BigBambi: mounting on debian - no Windows system folders remaining |
| 14:51:18 | BigBambi | at0m|c: Maybe try deleting *.tcd from /.rockbox then retrying? |
| 14:51:28 | at0m|c | oki |
| 14:51:42 | Slasheri | BigBambi: however, there is a problem that threads are non pre-emptable |
| 14:51:55 | BigBambi | Slasheri: Youre going to lose me now :) |
| 14:52:01 | at0m|c | BigBambi: there's none there, think i did that the other day |
| 14:52:05 | Slasheri | BigBambi: so kernel should have a way to kill the frozen thread |
| 14:52:32 | BigBambi | Hmmm, so it'd be more complicated than tagcache doing it itself? |
| 14:52:50 | Slasheri | yes, that would need modifications down to the kernel level |
| 14:52:56 | gevaerts | I'd expect this to be pretty error-prone |
| 14:53:02 | Unhelpful | BigBambi: the problem is that if a thread is in an infinite loop without a yield() inside, nothing else can run. |
| 14:53:12 | BigBambi | at0m|c: Well, I'm out of ideas - however Slasheri wrote the database, so maybe he has an idea :) |
| 14:53:24 | BigBambi | Unhelpful: I see |
| 14:53:53 | Slasheri | BigBambi: and of course, control of resources in use by that thread so we could close them in case the thread being killed has open files etc. |
| 14:54:00 | Slasheri | BigBambi: it would get rather complicated |
| 14:54:13 | at0m|c | not much of my music has changed in the 2 weeks since i ditched the rb version i installed last februari. maybe added 3-4 albums, 400MB of the 40GB. and that versions's db scan ran fine - admittedly with these 400MB less audio |
| 14:54:38 | gevaerts | maybe try removing those again |
| 14:54:45 | Unhelpful | that sounds like getting much closer to rockbox being "linux"... or at least some other OS with preemption, task management, etc. |
| 14:55:35 | BigBambi | Slasheri: yes, it sounds it |
| 14:55:36 | at0m|c | since that version from about 2 weeks ago was problematic, i've tried another "current build" or two, and now installed the release (3.2) |
| 14:55:40 | Slasheri | BigBambi: probably the best solution could be to detect the crash, and on next db scan, generate a log of the current progress so that the problematic file could be traced |
| 14:55:41 | at0m|c | gevaerts: oki |
| 14:55:55 | at0m|c | after smoke break :) |
| 14:55:59 | BigBambi | Slasheri: Yep, that'd be a great help I think |
| 14:56:40 | BigBambi | Slasheri: If it becomes easier to find out the problem file, it hopefully would lead to more examples of what causes metadata parsers to fail so they can be fixed |
| 14:57:21 | Slasheri | BigBambi: indeed, most of the problems are easy to fix if we get a full report of the problem |
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| 15:03:38 | mt | linuxstb : ping |
| 15:04:49 | at0m|c | what's still weird: moved all except some folders containing 264 files into folders with database.ignore, yea db scan crashes just above 4000 found :? |
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| 15:05:42 | gevaerts | I think the number still includes the files in database.ignored directories. Maybe someone can confirm this? |
| 15:07:38 | at0m|c | now hangs at 5115 |
| 15:07:47 | * | at0m|c reinstalls older version |
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| 15:22:07 | mt | Need little help with the codec API : The parsing of rm header should go in get_rm_metadata for example .. the function where the construction of scrambling units of audio packets occur, is actually called inside cook.c (the file which would contain the codec's entry point) .. i.e once DATA chunk is reached in get_metadata everything else will be handled by the codec, am I correct ? |
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| 15:23:54 | at0m|c | ew, now random_folder_advance_list generating folder lists kernel panics: "*PANIC* Stkov main". will just skip db alltogether for now |
| 15:24:29 | at0m|c | off home in a minute, at0m remains here :> |
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| 15:27:13 | linuxstb | mt: The file is parsed once by the code in get_metadata() - this needs to determine the codec used, the metadata (title, artist etc), and information such as duration, samplerate and bitrate. |
| 15:27:53 | linuxstb | mt: The codec then has to parse the file again to decode it, but doesn't need to read the metadata. So each codec needs two parsers, doing different things... |
| 15:29:20 | mt | linuxstb : so regular parsing could occur inside the codec just as it's done in my current program where I fill RMContext with the relevant data then pass this data to COOKContext ? |
| 15:30:02 | linuxstb | mt: Yes. Or if that data is quite small (e.g. < 100 bytes), you can parse it in get_metadata(). The ASF/WMA metadat parser does this. |
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| 15:31:15 | mt | linuxstb : If I do that, how could I pass rmctx from get_metadata to the codec ? |
| 15:31:54 | linuxstb | You include it as part of the "id3" struct. Look at the asf codec for how that does it. |
| 15:40:00 | bubsy | hey mcuelenaere, I'm here now |
| 15:40:10 | bubsy | oh, you updated the ata driver? |
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| 15:40:18 | mcuelenaere | bubsy: I didn't |
| 15:40:20 | bubsy | oh |
| 15:40:23 | mcuelenaere | (at least not since a long time ago) |
| 15:41:12 | bubsy | so.. the debug messages are being sent right to the display text buffer? |
| 15:41:29 | mcuelenaere | yes |
| 15:41:44 | mcuelenaere | if you replace those logf calls with printf's (which #define logf printf does) |
| 15:42:01 | bubsy | yep |
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| 15:42:07 | bubsy | thanks, I'll do that now |
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| 15:50:02 | jon-kha | mcuelenaere when I try to run rockbox on my onda vx747 my player says ata error -1 and then shutdowns. Do you have any clue which could cause it? |
| 15:50:13 | mcuelenaere | what SD card do you use? |
| 15:50:17 | mcuelenaere | which* |
| 15:50:30 | maraz | does rockbox import playlists from the apple firmware upon installation? |
| 15:52:43 | domonoky | maraz: no. |
| 15:52:48 | maraz | why not? |
| 15:52:57 | jon-kha | I have 8gb sandisk microsdhc class 6 card. Does rockbox even support sdhc cards on vx747? |
| 15:53:32 | domonoky | maraz: rockbox doesnt use anything from the original firmware. and there are many more mp3players supported then ipods. |
| 15:53:45 | maraz | true. |
| 15:54:42 | mcuelenaere | jon-kha: I'm not sure, I only have a 2GB card |
| 15:55:05 | mcuelenaere | jon-kha: can you compile your own build? |
| 15:55:29 | mcuelenaere | jon-kha: if so, could you please try http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=17245.msg147568#msg147568 ? |
| 15:55:42 | domonoky | maraz: but such a thing could be a job for RockboxUtility, ie create m3u playlists from the ipod db on request. But that needs someone who wants to code this (maybe you ?) :-) |
| 15:56:23 | jon-kha | mcuelenaere well I have only build bootloaders but I can try to build whole rockbox |
| 15:56:45 | mcuelenaere | jon-kha: first try to build the bootloader and see whether it can read from the SD card |
| 15:57:01 | jon-kha | mcuelenaere I will try that |
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| 16:04:12 | bubsy | mcuelenaere: I SVN-ed the source to a dir, chose 90 for Zen Vision:M 30GB, and B for Bootloader.. it compiled well, then I did the mkzenboot and sendfirm stuff |
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| 16:04:29 | bubsy | well, now it doesn't register any button press, so I can't skip the "loading creative firmware" |
| 16:04:38 | bubsy | and the display is all garbage and messed up right after the bootloader loads |
| 16:04:43 | bubsy | (not before it, the Creative logo is all fine) |
| 16:05:02 | mcuelenaere | bubsy: the button handler is a bit messed up, try editing bootloader/creativezvm.c so it loads Rockbox as default |
| 16:05:11 | bubsy | will do |
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| 16:05:15 | mcuelenaere | and the display garbage could be related to the M:Robe 500 edits |
| 16:05:20 | mcuelenaere | changes* |
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| 16:05:36 | * | mcuelenaere hasn't used his ZVM for a long time |
| 16:06:04 | mcuelenaere | bubsy: try reverting to before r20846 |
| 16:07:43 | bubsy | sending the firmware no |
| 16:07:58 | bubsy | mcuelenaere: nah, I can see text through the garbage, good enough to see debug messages from the ata driver :-) |
| 16:10:57 | bubsy | mcuelenaere: http://pastebin.com/m2966e3d1 |
| 16:11:00 | bubsy | this is all it says |
| 16:11:04 | bubsy | then it freeze |
| 16:11:07 | kkurbjun | mcuelenaere: the i2c clock is turned off on the dm320 by default right now, I'm not sure if that would effect the screen much |
| 16:11:23 | mcuelenaere | bubsy: yes, that's as far I got :/ |
| 16:11:43 | mcuelenaere | kkurbjun: hmm not the screen, but it will effect on the all input on the ZVM |
| 16:11:49 | mcuelenaere | s/the all/all/ |
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| 16:12:20 | mcuelenaere | which gets handled through a separate processor which communicates with the main CPU through I²C |
| 16:12:31 | kkurbjun | I also was modifying the lds script for the m:robe, I wasn't sure what your scrambler was doing, but I was hoping the setup was functionally equivalent |
| 16:12:59 | bubsy | mcuelenaere: :| we're almost there |
| 16:13:06 | bubsy | I can imagine rockbox running already : D |
| 16:13:50 | mcuelenaere | to imagine it is not enough :) |
| 16:14:07 | kkurbjun | mcuelenaere: the other thing that I was changing was the clock setup in system-dm320.c |
| 16:14:12 | mcuelenaere | kkurbjun: when (what revision) did you edit the lds? |
| 16:14:20 | mcuelenaere | yes I noticed that |
| 16:14:44 | mcuelenaere | that's what I thought that could caused the garbage bubsy is experiencing |
| 16:14:47 | kkurbjun | I don't know how the pll was setup before on the zvm, but it could be causing some trouble too if it is changing on the zvm |
| 16:15:02 | bubsy | ... how can I revert back to the original bootloader now? |
| 16:15:08 | bubsy | uh-oh I hope it's not bricked |
| 16:15:14 | mcuelenaere | you mean the OF bootloader? |
| 16:15:17 | bubsy | yep |
| 16:15:27 | mcuelenaere | and a ZVM can't get bricked, unless you overwrite the flash part |
| 16:15:37 | mcuelenaere | just do a normal recovery procedure |
| 16:15:41 | bubsy | :o |
| 16:15:55 | bubsy | "Your player is not connected" blabla |
| 16:15:57 | bubsy | it is! :( |
| 16:16:03 | kkurbjun | revision 20598 started with the app.lds changed |
| 16:16:08 | kkurbjun | changes |
| 16:16:20 | kkurbjun | there were a couple that I did |
| 16:16:41 | kkurbjun | and the fram address is now done in the linker script rather than as a define |
| 16:17:06 | bubsy | so mcuelenaere, how do I recover it? |
| 16:17:11 | kkurbjun | 20598 also started withthe changes to the boot.lds as well |
| 16:17:15 | bubsy | Like, the firmware upgrader doesn't recognize it |
| 16:17:41 | mcuelenaere | bubsy: I don't know out of my head, but there should be some information on either the Rockbox wiki page or on the Creative support forums (or epizenter) |
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| 16:18:38 | mcuelenaere | kkurbjun: I'd need to test on the ZVM what impact those changes have, but I currently don't have the time for that |
| 16:18:52 | bubsy | oh yes you have! :-) |
| 16:19:04 | mcuelenaere | bubsy: ? |
| 16:19:14 | bubsy | I was kidding =P |
| 16:19:59 | jon-kha | mcuelenaere I build the bootloader with modified ata-sd-jz4740.c but it didn't help I still get "ata error -1" |
| 16:20:29 | kkurbjun | mcuelenaere: if the player is running any code at all I would not expect that changing the pll is the problem, I would suspect the linker script first since there were some semi-drastic changes in it |
| 16:21:11 | mcuelenaere | kkurbjun: bubsy says he can still read text on the LCD, so I don't think it's really bad |
| 16:21:32 | bubsy | well, it is |
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| 16:21:51 | bubsy | segments of the screen is moved away, i see lines and trails |
| 16:21:53 | bubsy | and stuff |
| 16:22:17 | kkurbjun | what's the resolution of the zvm? |
| 16:22:26 | mcuelenaere | jon-kha: hmm I spot several -1 usages in ata-sd-jz4740.c; could you modify them all to another (negative) number so we can isolate the problem? |
| 16:22:35 | mcuelenaere | kkurbjun: 320x240 |
| 16:22:41 | mcuelenaere | (same as the iPod Video) |
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| 16:23:23 | jon-kha | mcuelenaere I can try |
| 16:23:39 | kkurbjun | the spi frequency is somewhat changed also |
| 16:23:51 | mcuelenaere | that could influence the LCD on the ZVM |
| 16:23:59 | kkurbjun | in that we are setting it explicitly, I wouldn't be supprised if that is causing the trouble |
| 16:24:12 | bubsy | but mcuelenaere, do you feel like continueing on the zvm ata driver one day? I would really appreciate it :) |
| 16:24:20 | bubsy | just debug some more and think hard, grab some beers =) |
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| 16:25:34 | kkurbjun | there's two places that it's changed, one is in the spi-dm320, and the other is in system-dm320 |
| 16:25:55 | kkurbjun | the spi clock is divided from the arm frequency |
| 16:26:17 | mcuelenaere | bubsy: perhaps, one day.. but it surely wouldn't be for the near future (exams..) |
| 16:26:20 | kkurbjun | so right now it's setup with a divide by 7, and the arm could run either at 87.5 MHz or 175 MHz |
| 16:26:28 | bubsy | mcuelenaere: I see |
| 16:27:08 | kkurbjun | sorr,y that's a divide by 8 |
| 16:27:17 | mcuelenaere | kkurbjun: I need to lookup how it's setup in the OF, but I lost my IDA database |
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| 16:32:49 | cool_walking_ | Should the 240GB HDD work in a gigabeat s? |
| 16:33:06 | cool_walking_ | err, with Rockbox |
| 16:34:23 | bubsy | mcuelenaere: :) I got the bootloader back |
| 16:34:28 | bubsy | entered rescue mode |
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| 16:34:39 | bubsy | and then it found the player |
| 16:34:42 | bubsy | quite neat |
| 16:35:12 | mcuelenaere | bubsy: that's what I meant with 'the standard recovery procedure' |
| 16:35:51 | krazykit | cool_walking_, you'd probably have to build it with lba48 support |
| 16:36:01 | cool_walking_ | yeah i did that |
| 16:36:20 | cool_walking_ | the bootloader gives me the "file not found" error |
| 16:36:55 | cool_walking_ | I used a tarred build, as suggested on the wiki, which gives a heap of errors when it tries to create the individual files |
| 16:39:00 | cool_walking_ | Something worth mentioning is that in bootloader USB mode, the second partition shows up as only 128GiB. |
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| 16:39:48 | krazykit | that would be a symptom of the bootloader not being built with lba48 support |
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| 16:40:26 | cool_walking_ | yeah |
| 16:41:49 | cool_walking_ | I did #define HAVE_LBA48 in firmware/export/config-gigabeat-s.h |
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| 17:00:15 | kugel | kkurbjun: can you take a look at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10184 and comment on my comment? |
| 17:05:08 | jon-kha | mcuelenaere I modified all instances of -1 to some another negative number. It returns the first "return -1;". If I comment the whole thing out like this http://pastebin.com/m412a8c4c it will return "ata error 20". |
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| 17:07:02 | mcuelenaere | jon-kha: hmm could you add #define logf printf at the top of that file? |
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| 17:08:32 | kkurbjun | kugel: the dm320 doesn't use those routines (it probably needs them, but the of sets up most of the stuff on the m:robe 500 at least), it looks slightly different than the way that it is used on the gigabeat fx - since they are in asm and there is no stack used it should be able to be called from crt0.s, I think that is the only place that routine is used on the fx |
| 17:08:48 | kkurbjun | kugel: does the mmu work when you set it to syncronous? |
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| 17:09:09 | kugel | no idea |
| 17:09:24 | kkurbjun | I would need to look at the arm technical reference to see if the fx could be substituted in |
| 17:10:03 | kugel | The dm320 uses these in set_cpu_frequency() ? |
| 17:10:40 | kkurbjun | not anymore, that was just copied from the gigabeat fx |
| 17:10:41 | mcuelenaere | used this |
| 17:10:51 | kugel | I see |
| 17:10:52 | kkurbjun | and the fx doesn't use that routine |
| 17:11:08 | kugel | why's the code there then? |
| 17:11:46 | kkurbjun | no one really messed around with frequency changing much, it was there from when people were trying things on the f/x, it's not active though |
| 17:12:22 | kugel | so set_cpu_frequency() is unused on f/x as well? |
| 17:12:41 | kkurbjun | the current difference on at least the dm320 for running at 87.5 vs 175 is only a couple of ma when playing audio/idling in the menus |
| 17:12:57 | kkurbjun | it's used on the latest revision for the dm320, I added different code |
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| 17:13:04 | kugel | a couple ma aren't bad I think |
| 17:13:05 | kkurbjun | on the fx it is unused |
| 17:13:20 | kkurbjun | yeah, it's about 2% of the total power consumption |
| 17:14:22 | kkurbjun | on the gigabeat it might make more of a difference, but the PLL's are not really setup to do frequency shifting on the go as well for the s3c2440 |
| 17:14:24 | kugel | It seems we want these functions for the as3525, so I was wondering whether other mmu targets can use it too |
| 17:14:58 | kkurbjun | they don't have dividers independent of the feedback loop from what I remember so the PLL has to relock everytime you want to change the frequency |
| 17:15:13 | kkurbjun | the fx might be able to use it in crt0.s |
| 17:15:39 | kkurbjun | I don't think the lock status bits are reliable on the s3c2440 either |
| 17:15:52 | kkurbjun | but I might be mistaken on that |
| 17:16:36 | kkurbjun | they arn't on the dm320 - it seems to be a semi-common problem - you can work around it by waiting the max lock time as a solution I suppose |
| 17:17:04 | kkurbjun | I think the dm320 might be able to use it in crt0.s also |
| 17:18:27 | kugel | it seems the clocking on the as3525 is problematic if we use the dcache |
| 17:19:19 | kugel | as of now, it's more of trial and error to get it running :/ |
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| 17:30:20 | jon-kha | mcluenare after I put #define logf printf to the top of the file. bootloader will give me many lines of text. I'm not able to write up all lines before vx747 shutdowns. Few last lines are "SD card is ready" "mmc_init_card_state: unable to SEND_CSD" "ata error -1" |
| 17:31:13 | mcuelenaere | jon-kha: try commenting out the if { .. } below /*FIXME:ignore CRC error for CMD2/CMD9/CMD10 */ |
| 17:31:19 | mcuelenaere | (ata-sd-jz4740.c) |
| 17:31:51 | jon-kha | mcuelenaere I will try that |
| 17:32:53 | mcuelenaere | jon-kha: make sure you revert http://pastebin.com/m412a8c4c |
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| 17:42:26 | jon-kha | mcuelenaere after I commented that out it gave me same error but now there wasn't that "SD card is ready" sentence before "unable to SEND_CSD" |
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| 17:46:06 | mcuelenaere | jon-kha: what lines did you comment out? |
| 17:48:10 | mcuelenaere | jon-kha: also, what number is behind unable to SEND_CSD error= ? |
| 17:49:03 | mcuelenaere | (probably 18) |
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| 18:14:58 | jon-kha | mcuelenaere I commented the whole if sentence out but I think I didn't save the file before I compiled. Now when I saved the file and compiled it doesn't give "unable to SEND_CSD". I'm trying to find my camera so I can take picture from all the text it gives. |
| 18:16:27 | mcuelenaere | jon-kha: can you read the text before the device powers off? |
| 18:16:52 | kugel | Unhelpful: ping |
| 18:17:10 | mcuelenaere | if not, you can add while(1); to bootloader/onda-vx747.c after storage_init(); |
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| 18:42:53 | saratoga_home | domonoky1: couldn't we just wget the firmware files from sandisk rather then prompting the user? |
| 18:43:49 | domonoky1 | saratoga_home: that could also be possible, but the it breaks when ever sandisk moves/renames the files.. |
| 18:45:06 | jon-kha | mcuelenaere yes I can read some text before device powers off but not much. If I add while(1); just like you suggested I only have a black screen without any text. |
| 18:45:33 | saratoga_home | domonoky1: true, but they've left those links alone for years now, so they'll probably be good for a long while |
| 18:45:45 | mcuelenaere | jon-kha: do you hold the volume down button when booting? |
| 18:45:52 | mcuelenaere | (or menu button) |
| 18:45:52 | saratoga_home | perhaps we could try the link by default and then fall back to manually provided? |
| 18:46:04 | jon-kha | mcuelenaere I hold menu button |
| 18:46:20 | mcuelenaere | hmm the LCD should power on then |
| 18:46:41 | mcuelenaere | try adding verbose = true; before /* Only enable backlight when button is pressed */ |
| 18:47:02 | domonoky1 | saratoga_home: sounds like a good idea. but first we need to rework mkamsboot. (put all things in functions, make lib out of it) :-) |
| 18:47:37 | saratoga_home | yeah ok good point |
| 18:47:44 | saratoga_home | i'm glad you're working on this already |
| 18:48:29 | domonoky1 | it would be nice if others could help out too :-) |
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| 18:50:39 | jon-kha | mcuelenaere I added verbose = true; before that comment but it didn't help |
| 18:51:08 | mcuelenaere | huh? try replacing it with backlight_init(); |
| 18:52:17 | Unhelpful | kugel: yes? |
| 18:52:45 | kugel | Unhelpful: Is there any reason to not support jpeg backdrops now? |
| 18:53:54 | Unhelpful | kugel: somebody has to write it. it'll need to steal the plugin buffer, or else use bufalloc but fail gracefully if the buffer is full due to playback. plugin buffer is probably best. |
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| 18:54:33 | jon-kha | mcuelenaere I replaced verbose = true; with backlight_init(); but I still get only a black screen |
| 18:55:38 | kugel | Unhelpful: huh? Why that? why not use the current backdrop buffer? |
| 18:55:56 | mcuelenaere | jon-kha: ah error() powers off the device. Remove that while(1); and comment the error() calls out |
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| 18:58:05 | Unhelpful | kugel: is the backdrop buffer larger than the size of the loaded backdrop? the loader needs a pretty hefty chunk of memory past the end of the image buffer. |
| 18:58:41 | saratoga_home | whats the sense of jpeg backdrops? whoever makes the wps can use bmp right? |
| 18:59:19 | Unhelpful | saratoga: can't the user load backdrops? |
| 18:59:31 | n1s | they can |
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| 18:59:58 | n1s | being able to load a random jpeg and get it scaled to display res would be pretty cool |
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| 19:00:15 | saratoga_home | ah good point |
| 19:01:51 | gevaerts | one way to do that would be to have the jpeg viewer plugin have a 'set backdrop' option where it saves a correctly sized bmp first |
| 19:01:58 | Unhelpful | the worst-case target is the ipod video. in the worst case for the loader, 30720B will be needed for the decode buffer, + sizeof(struct jpeg) for the decoder state, +11520B for the scaler buffer |
| 19:02:58 | Unhelpful | that is assuming the backdrop is exactly 639 wide, just short of where the decoder would downscale on decode, that it uses 2x2 chroma subsampling, etc. |
| 19:03:21 | kugel | I'm not talking about scaling for now |
| 19:03:29 | kugel | just pre-scaled jpg as backdrop |
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| 19:05:29 | Unhelpful | well, first somebody needs to code a direct-output path for the jpeg decoder, since right now it relies on the scaler to get from rgb888 to native. the worst case then to load on ipod video would be 5120B of decode buffer + the decoder state |
| 19:05:48 | Unhelpful | i knocked a few tables out of struct jpeg... it's probably about 8-9KB. |
| 19:06:33 | Unhelpful | i still think that either a "make backdrop" plugin would be best, or have the backdrop loader in core steal the plugin buffer. |
| 19:07:01 | Willeth | Don't suppose I could butt in for a little support? For a few months now Rockbox (Gigabeat F40) has been freezing on me in the middle of playback - usually long file like a podcast. It freezes on the shutdown screen if I turn it off and even if I flick the battery switch on and off, or leaving it off for hours, it won't resume play on either the track it froze on or on a new track. I can only get it to work again after |
| 19:07:18 | Willeth | Wow, that was a lot more text than I thought it was, whoops. |
| 19:07:35 | Unhelpful | convenience points for the backdrop maker plugin would be that you can tell it whether to stretch, crop, or letterbox images that are not exactly the right aspect ratio |
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| 19:08:24 | Unhelpful | Willeth: what build are you using? the problem could be your file, or it could be a bug that we've fixed since then (though i don't know any particular such bug to explain your problem) |
| 19:08:30 | gevaerts | Willeth: have you checked the filesystem? |
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| 19:08:57 | Unhelpful | could also be a bad sector in that file... filesystem check and recopy of your files might be in order. |
| 19:09:10 | Willeth | @Unhelpful - downloaded the build from builds.rockbox.org just ten minutes ago |
| 19:09:15 | Willeth | How would I go aboutchecking the filesystem |
| 19:09:17 | Willeth | ? |
| 19:09:33 | Unhelpful | Willeth: with whatever tool you use to do that on your computer ;) |
| 19:09:48 | kugel | Unhelpful: backdrop maker sounds nice |
| 19:09:54 | gevaerts | Willeth: what operating system are you using? |
| 19:09:59 | Willeth | XP SP3 |
| 19:10:04 | Unhelpful | kugel: it does! you should get right on it! ;) |
| 19:10:53 | gevaerts | Willeth: the best is chkdsk /f <your drive letter>: from a command prompt |
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| 19:11:37 | jon-kha | mcuelenaere now there is fullscreen off text I wrote down 12 last lines http://pastebin.com/m4169929b |
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| 19:12:01 | Willeth | thanks gev, running now |
| 19:12:18 | mcuelenaere | jon-kha: and does it load Rockbox? |
| 19:12:36 | Willeth | gev: it's asking if I want to convert lost chains to files. Do I? what does that mean? |
| 19:12:59 | jon-kha | mcuelenaere no it doesn't load Rockbox |
| 19:13:58 | gevaerts | Willeth: do you have backups of the files? |
| 19:14:06 | mcuelenaere | jon-kha: how is your SD card formatted? as FAT32? |
| 19:14:20 | Willeth | gav: no. |
| 19:14:31 | mcuelenaere | try adding printf("disk_mount_all: %d", rc); after rc = disk_mount_all(); |
| 19:15:21 | jon-kha | mcuelenaere it is fat32, I will try that |
| 19:15:31 | gevaerts | Willeth: ok. Then I'd suggest to stop the chkdsk first and make backups. I think it's safe to let chkdsk fix the errors, but you never know. Also, use full nicks, that way highlighting works properly :) |
| 19:16:18 | mcuelenaere | jon-kha: after Loading firmware, you don't get a Error: ? |
| 19:16:27 | Willeth | gevaerts: It's already finished, I opted to convert the chains. Ejecting now, will see if anything changed :P |
| 19:17:09 | jon-kha | mcuelenaere no there is no more text after "Loading firmware" |
| 19:17:21 | mcuelenaere | then it probably hangs there for some reason |
| 19:17:26 | Willeth | gevaerts: playback didn't resume, shutting down still freezes it |
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| 19:18:39 | gevaerts | Willeth: maybe try copying one of those files to your PC and play it there, to see if its content is not corrupted |
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| 19:20:29 | Willeth | gevaerts: it's not, I already did that :P It's not playing any files at all - if I try to play something different, it stops at 0:00 and won't play. I can back out and try and play something else with a new playlist, and that sticks at 0:00 as well. |
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| 19:20:51 | jon-kha | mcuelenaere disk_mount_all returns value 0 |
| 19:21:03 | mcuelenaere | sounds normal |
| 19:21:23 | mcuelenaere | you're sure you have a .rockbox/rockbox.bin file? |
| 19:21:30 | mcuelenaere | eh .rockbox/rockbox.vx747 |
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| 19:22:25 | jon-kha | mcuelenaere Yes, I'm pretty sure but I will check |
| 19:22:38 | Willeth | gevaerts: But I can plug it into my PC and play the file directly from the device through WMP with no issue |
| 19:22:58 | gevaerts | Willeth: what file format is it? |
| 19:23:04 | Willeth | gevaerts: .mp3 |
| 19:23:35 | gevaerts | hm, I'm not aware of issues with weird mp3s... |
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| 19:24:24 | jon-kha | mcuelenaere Yes, there is a rockbox.vx747 file |
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| 19:24:33 | Willeth | gevaerts: I don't think it's the file at all. I've only had this problem with files over around an hour and a half, but it doesn't occur on ALL files over this length |
| 19:24:49 | Willeth | gevaerts: I've played files that are over four hours without problems |
| 19:25:01 | gevaerts | maybe someone else has an idea... |
| 19:25:16 | Willeth | Haha hopefully :P |
| 19:25:19 | mcuelenaere | jon-kha: hmm you could try placing printf() calls in bootloader/common.c near load_firmware() to see where it hangs :/ |
| 19:25:19 | Willeth | Thanks though |
| 19:25:50 | jon-kha | mcuelenaere I will try |
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| 19:43:58 | jon-kha | mcuelenaere now I will get "error: file not found" on the top of the screen and after that there is those send_cmd and fetch response sentences and "SD card is ready" |
| 19:44:39 | mcuelenaere | hmm you are building for the right target? (not the VX747+ ?) |
| 19:47:23 | jon-kha | mcuelenaere yes I'm building for vx747 |
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| 19:56:08 | nightfrog | hi @ all |
| 19:57:05 | nightfrog | just wanted to ask, if anyone has problems with mp3 files, longer than 1:03 hours? |
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| 19:58:11 | nightfrog | on my ipod video 30gb it only displays that the file is 1:03:33 even though its about 2 hours and i can't forward any further which kind of sux |
| 19:58:29 | nightfrog | is that a known bug? |
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| 20:01:41 | Willeth | nightfrog, I have a similar problem |
| 20:02:03 | Willeth | Just spent a few minutes trying to fix it in here with no success :P |
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| 20:05:29 | n1s | sounds weird, could you guys test if it worked before, for example in 3.2 and 3.1? |
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| 20:13:36 | Jaykay | may i add r20666 to MajorChanges? |
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| 20:14:09 | Jaykay | please don't say "it's a wiki..." :) i want to know if you think it's a major change |
| 20:14:33 | n1s | yeah, it probably fits |
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| 20:21:03 | Jaykay | er... how should i call it? "disable wps updating when backlight is off, which yields up to 1h longer runtime" is a bit too long (and i guess it isn't proper english) |
| 20:22:16 | Willeth | "Increases battery life by preventing WPS from updating while backlight is off." |
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| 20:23:27 | Jaykay | perfect, thanks |
| 20:23:52 | Jaykay | no... the 1h is missing |
| 20:25:15 | Willeth | How about "Increases battery life by up to one hour preventing WPS from updating while backlight is off." |
| 20:25:20 | Willeth | It's the same sentence, essentially :P |
| 20:25:36 | Willeth | Or rather, "Increases battery life by up to one hour by preventing WPS from updating while backlight is off." |
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| 20:28:06 | froggyman | has any when ever noticed that in bubbles that the game will "double shoot" and fire 2 bubbles right after each other instead of just one? |
| 20:28:41 | Jaykay | ok, thanks |
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| 22:22:22 | amiconn | Unhelpful: YUV->RGB888->scale->native sounds like an unnecessary intermediate step. Wouldn't it be possible to scale in YUV? |
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| 22:29:32 | Unhelpful | amiconn: yes and no. there's no way of telling other things that the scaler output is YUV. we could provide a scaler output plugin for YUV->RGB, but this would not work nicely for things like PictureFlow, which uses an output plugin to create transposed output. |
| 22:29:57 | Unhelpful | also, it's the same number of multiplications either way... |
| 22:31:05 | Unhelpful | ...hrm, actually, i suppose it isn't, quite, as there are more pixels before the scaler |
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| 22:34:02 | Unhelpful | the other problem still stands, though... the "standard" output plugin for the scaler assumes it's transforming RGB[32][32][32] values to RGB565. it would need adding a flag that tells the scaler to convert output from YUV to RGB, and another slot in custom_format on color targets for PictureFlow to provide a YUV version of its output plugin |
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| 22:41:53 | Willeth | Are there any plans for RB to support the Zune? |
| 22:42:56 | Unhelpful | Willeth: it's up to interested and capable people to do that. |
| 22:43:11 | Willeth | Fair enough. |
| 22:44:15 | kkurbjun | Willeth: I think people would be interested in porting to the zune, but there are some big technical challenges to doing that particular player |
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| 23:12:02 | rocko | is there a plugin for rhythmbox that detects rockbox firmware and then scans removable media instead of basing it on the media's firmware to detect |
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| 23:12:33 | BigBambi | rocko: Best ask the rhthymbox people that |
| 23:12:43 | rocko | okay |
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| 23:55:24 | * | motionman95 is back... |
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| 23:57:26 | petur | motionman95: long seconds you have ;) |
| 23:57:43 | motionman95 | ha! |
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