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| 00:38:44 | JdGordon| | _fml: well, I agree that it should be done |
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| 00:41:04 | _fml | JdGordon: hey! Just a little bit tweaking when reading (loading) an FMR file. |
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| 01:17:21 | Unhelpful | ok, i'm pretty sure image-load stalling playback is a lock contention issue. i'm not sure the best way to solve... we could do a lot of messing about with making the loaders optionally re-fetch their struct bmp from a handle any time they yield or call a function that might, but i think it might be easier to just add another lock, which is held by anything that would *move* handles but not by things that just want to access already-allo |
| 01:17:22 | Unhelpful | cated handles. |
| 01:19:20 | JdGordon| | the only thing that should ever move handles is the actual buffering code no? |
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| 01:22:54 | Unhelpful | JdGordon: the mutex that currently locks around these operations is static inside buffering.c. i think we can keep all of this inside buffering.c by adding a second mutex that is only locked by functions that modify the buffer list, and holding that during image load. this won't block anything that doesn't block now, but functions that are "read-only" as far as the list of handles go will no longer block during AA load |
| 01:23:37 | Unhelpful | and i think it'll be much more sane than having image loaders know about handles :) |
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| 01:49:13 | Unhelpful | this looks good - i caught a few handle struct members that need to be initialized a little earlier in bufopen so that they have meaningful values (for the buffer stats) while an image loads, but everything else seems fine. |
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| 02:11:19 | Unhelpful | it works with my oversized test image... will commit shortly. :) |
| 02:14:44 | CIA-38 | New commit by unhelpful (r20932): Fix the lock contention stall during cover art load, by adding a separate modify mutex for the buffer. Operations that modify contents of a buffer ... |
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| 02:57:38 | CIA-38 | New commit by unhelpful (r20933): Attempt to make version.sh a little more resistant to producing spurious "modified" status on git repositories. |
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| 03:04:05 | Unhelpful | hrm... still no good. the problem seems to be whether or not the script is run from inside the repository :/ |
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| 03:56:18 | c4pr0 | Alright, who do I send donations to? |
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| 03:56:34 | scorche | there is a paypal button on the website |
| 03:56:47 | c4pr0 | Sweet. |
| 03:56:54 | c4pr0 | Is this beer money? |
| 03:56:58 | c4pr0 | Or does it go towards dev? |
| 03:59:45 | dfkt | is there a list of the various functions of the %St WPS tag available somewhere? |
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| 04:13:32 | Unhelpful | dfkt: a quick look at the source behind that seems to suggest that it scans your config for the setting named. |
| 04:17:41 | dfkt | Unhelpful, thanks, very interesting |
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| 05:26:37 | c4pr0 | Does anybody know what's keeping Rockbox from the new Nano's? |
| 05:26:47 | c4pr0 | I heard something about encryption. |
| 05:26:53 | c4pr0 | CAn anybody confirm this? |
| 05:27:44 | krazykit | encryption, an inability to run non-apple code, no one really working on either problem with any success |
| 05:28:46 | c4pr0 | So, I'm SOL for playing .flac files on my Ipod? |
| 05:28:52 | c4pr0 | Because I just heard .flac for the first time. |
| 05:28:56 | c4pr0 | And it's amazing. |
| 05:29:00 | krazykit | yes you are |
| 05:29:25 | c4pr0 | Hmmm, is brute forcing out of the question? |
| 05:30:06 | cool_walking_ | Brute forcing's never out of the question, that's why it's called brute forcing. It does take thousands of years though. |
| 05:30:34 | c4pr0 | Well, I have a brand new cluster of servers with i7's in them.... |
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| 05:30:53 | c4pr0 | Sadly, I have the hardware, but not the know how. |
| 05:31:08 | scorche | thousands of years with your hardware and much more... |
| 05:31:16 | c4pr0 | Blah. |
| 05:31:30 | c4pr0 | I'm pretty upset now. |
| 05:31:45 | c4pr0 | Have you ever heard a .flac of Metallica's "Hero of the Day"? |
| 05:31:53 | c4pr0 | Let me tell you, it's magical. |
| 05:31:55 | krazykit | that's off-topic |
| 05:31:56 | scorche | no, nor do i care to |
| 05:32:02 | cool_walking_ | No, and the social channel is #rockbox-community. |
| 05:33:19 | c4pr0 | Good to know cool_walking_ thanks for the enlightening comment. |
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| 05:45:59 | JdGordon | anyone have any interesting feature requests or bugs? |
| 05:48:15 | * | Strife89 has a manual patch. |
| 05:48:16 | cool_walking_ | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9854 is a bug... dunno about interesting. are you interested in playback problems? |
| 05:49:09 | Strife89 | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10202 <−−-patch |
| 05:50:07 | JdGordon | cool_walking_: the last comment has an easy fix for you... |
| 05:50:27 | cool_walking_ | There are two issues in the task. |
| 05:50:29 | JdGordon | in fact.. rockbox has a plugin to fix them so you dont even have to go searching |
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| 05:51:34 | cool_walking_ | I already have the "that file is broken" issue sorted myself (although maybe better handling of these files wouldn't go astray?), but there's also the "playback borked" issue. |
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| 06:11:24 | JdGordon | can anyone else not update their e200 bootloader? |
| 06:11:47 | cool_walking_ | I did yesterday. |
| 06:12:23 | cool_walking_ | did update it successfully, that is. |
| 06:12:38 | JdGordon | with rbutil or sansapatcher? |
| 06:12:42 | cool_walking_ | sansapatcher |
| 06:13:02 | cool_walking_ | using the 3.2 |
| 06:13:08 | cool_walking_ | bootloader from that FS entry |
| 06:13:12 | JdGordon | right |
| 06:13:27 | JdGordon | how do you put it in rec mode? |
| 06:13:28 | * | Unhelpful was successful with sansapatcher -a <file> |
| 06:13:56 | cool_walking_ | Same command I used. |
| 06:14:02 | cool_walking_ | Don't know what rec mode is... |
| 06:14:10 | JdGordon | my problem is sansapatcher thinks its successful, but nothing changes |
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| 06:16:41 | JdGordon | I dont really want to create a bootloader updater plugin.. but its looking like im running out of options :( |
| 06:16:50 | cool_walking_ | I did it on Windows XP with the e200 in Rockbox's UMS mode. |
| 06:17:10 | * | Unhelpful thinks that perhaps http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9333 needs a more general solution... perhaps storing a track number and title for each track? this is not just a ripping artifact, some albums come with bonus tracks after many empty tracks. |
| 06:18:20 | JdGordon | I really wonder about the origional coder of pictureflow... |
| 06:19:12 | Unhelpful | the one who ported it to rockbox, or the one who wrote the windows app it's supposedly based on? |
| 06:19:44 | JdGordon | the 2nd |
| 06:19:53 | JdGordon | I assume the wierd stuff comes from there? |
| 06:19:59 | JdGordon | i havnt really looked into it that much |
| 06:21:03 | JdGordon | can someoone dd their firmware partition from the e200 and upload it somewhere for me? |
| 06:21:39 | Unhelpful | i'm not really sure where the weirdness comes in. i've not looked at the other PF... a lot of the weirdness is related to rockbox-specific things, though. |
| 06:26:00 | Unhelpful | i kind of have to wonder if the desktop version even *has* a software renderer :) |
| 06:37:28 | * | JdGordon decides to add some fun stuff for touchscreen targets |
| 06:48:38 | Unhelpful | lasers? |
| 06:50:22 | JdGordon | freeking laser beams! |
| 06:52:08 | JdGordon | doh! i fixed the quickscreen touchscreen and it looks like it cant even get to it yet :p |
| 06:52:27 | cool_walking_ | What if you're not a king? |
| 06:52:44 | cool_walking_ | or are the beams made of particles originating in a king? |
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| 07:19:10 | JdGordon | apart from shuffle and repeat mode.. are there any other settings which would be nice to be able to change from pressing something on the wps? |
| 07:22:39 | JdGordon | blah :p |
| 07:24:02 | CIA-38 | New commit by jdgordon (r20936): fix red... who went and changed the remote defines?! :p |
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| 07:35:56 | jck | hey |
| 07:36:20 | CIA-38 | New commit by jdgordon (r20937): allow the user to change the shuffle and repeat modes from the touchscreen, update the mr500 default wps to show how to do it (hint, press the ... |
| 07:38:03 | jck | hey |
| 07:38:22 | jck | whats the cheapest mp3 player that supports rockbox/ |
| 07:38:40 | cool_walking_ | I would guess the c200 or e200. |
| 07:42:09 | jck | are they good? |
| 07:44:57 | CIA-38 | New commit by unhelpful (r20938): Clean up create_track_index, fixing FS #9333, and use tagcache-provided length instead of strlen. |
| 07:45:38 | Unhelpful | i've been happy with my e200, but i prefer to use the gigabeat S since it's a hard drive player and has a much larger capacity. |
| 07:45:59 | cool_walking_ | I have a e200 which is very nice, it'd have to be the best flash-based (small capacity) player I've owned. |
| 07:48:54 | Unhelpful | you need to be a bit careful about an e200 - refurbs are often the supported v1 model, new pretty much always means the work-in-progress v2 model. it's impossible to tell them apart without turning it on, or asking the person who is selling it, unfortunately. |
| 07:50:00 | cool_walking_ | jck, check out http://rockbox.org/wiki/BuyersGuide if you haven't. |
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| 07:57:06 | gralco | Hi I need to put my sandisk sansa e260 in UMS mode to put rockbox on it but I don't know how |
| 07:57:15 | gralco | help please? |
| 07:58:58 | cool_walking_ | An option something like "Settings -> USB mode" in the Original Firmware. |
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| 08:02:17 | gralco | I dont see see a "USB mode" |
| 08:02:44 | jck | how are the bundled headphones that come with the e200 series? |
| 08:02:53 | CIA-38 | New commit by jdgordon (r20939): More touchscreen additions, quickscreen, browser, context menu, skip fwd/back buttons in the mr500 wps (a "button bar" will pop up for 2.5s when the ... |
| 08:03:05 | gralco | bundled headphones? |
| 08:03:23 | jck | earphones i mean |
| 08:03:34 | JdGordon | Unhelpful: you jerk... you killed the build system :D |
| 08:03:57 | Unhelpful | why does that seem to keep happening to me? |
| 08:04:08 | jck | lol |
| 08:05:16 | gralco | oh wait sansapatcher isn't even finding the device |
| 08:05:29 | gralco | can I not do it with e620? |
| 08:06:11 | gralco | e260 I meant |
| 08:06:30 | cool_walking_ | no, you can do it with a e260 alright. |
| 08:06:33 | Unhelpful | sansapatcher should work fine on e260... |
| 08:06:52 | cool_walking_ | sansapatcher probably isn't finding the device *because* it's not in MSC (aka UMS) mode.. |
| 08:07:06 | gralco | thats what I thought |
| 08:07:14 | gralco | how do I make it in UMS mode then |
| 08:07:42 | cool_walking_ | There should be a setting in the device's menu, like I said. |
| 08:07:59 | gralco | I'll tell you what I see |
| 08:09:19 | jck | where can i find the rockbox source for sansa |
| 08:09:52 | cool_walking_ | The rockbox source for all devices is in a compressed archive on the download page. |
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| 08:10:01 | gralco | in settings theres "Music Options, Radio Options, Slideshow Options, Backlight, Language, Date & Time, Brightness, Volume, Reset All, Info, Auto Shut-Off, Format, Record Button, Press and Hold" |
| 08:10:08 | gralco | which one? |
| 08:10:50 | jck | the buyers guide says that none of the devices are in production |
| 08:10:53 | jck | lol |
| 08:13:28 | cool_walking_ | Yours and mine differ after "Auto Shut-Off" - I only have "USB Mode" after that. What's the firmware version in the "Info" screen? |
| 08:18:07 | cool_walking_ | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaFAQ#My_c200_doesn_t_have_an_MSC_Mode - I don't know if that's applicable to the e200. |
| 08:19:52 | gralco | "engage the hold switch" ? |
| 08:20:46 | cool_walking_ | http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-sansae200/rockbox_interface/images/e200-front.png |
| 08:21:42 | jck | rockbox wont work on the new sandisk e200s? |
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| 08:22:35 | jck | sorry |
| 08:22:40 | jck | closed the tab accidentally |
| 08:22:50 | cool_walking_ | jck: there's an ongoing porting effort to get Rockbox working on the new ones. A thread in the New Ports forum and the SansaAMS wiki page have the details. |
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| 08:27:10 | gralco | okay so I turn it on then put it on hold then press and hold the rewind button |
| 08:27:14 | gralco | then plug it in |
| 08:27:21 | gralco | it still doesnt see it |
| 08:27:26 | jck | do the devices of the new series perform better? |
| 08:27:29 | gralco | I do I know its in UMS |
| 08:27:57 | gralco | how do* |
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| 08:28:52 | gralco | http://files.zefie.com/PMP/sansa/c200/v1/firmware/1.01.00/ |
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| 08:43:15 | gralco | it says my firmware is v03. |
| 08:43:21 | gralco | which one should I get then |
| 08:45:19 | advcomp2019 | gralco, if you start with 03 it will not work |
| 08:46:09 | CIA-38 | New commit by unhelpful (r20940): Sort by and display disc number in PictureFlow, increase MAX_TRACKS to 128, prevent display of garbage tracklist on failure. |
| 08:46:11 | gralco | advcomp2019 so I cant roll back teh firmware? |
| 08:46:18 | gralco | the* |
| 08:46:29 | advcomp2019 | gralco, nope.. different hardware |
| 08:46:37 | gralco | oh crap |
| 08:47:24 | Unhelpful | that's a v2/AMS - unsupported. |
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| 12:09:42 | * | GodEater is starting to think we should stop providing the 60/80GB ipod video builds and just make everyone use the 30GB one. If you're knowledgeable enough to know there's a difference you can roll your own. |
| 12:13:53 | linuxstb | Or MrSomeone adds full ipod hardware detection (using the SCSI inquiry feature ipods support) |
| 12:14:28 | linuxstb | Or MrSomeone implements run-time RAM detection... |
| 12:14:45 | * | linuxstb recalls the latter being discussed two devcons ago |
| 12:14:45 | GodEater | so in the meantime ;) |
| 12:15:09 | B4gder | let's discuss it at a third devcon! ;-) |
| 12:15:20 | B4gder | talking is SO much easier than actually do it |
| 12:15:33 | GodEater | yay |
| 12:19:24 | bubsy | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/GoldenQuotes/EasySitePicture_1315757.jpg |
| 12:19:24 | bubsy | hahahaha |
| 12:19:43 | scorche | ...we know ;) |
| 12:19:50 | B4gder | a golden one indeed |
| 12:20:04 | B4gder | those photoshop tricks are almost invisible! |
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| 12:21:59 | bubsy | B4gder: I actually envy his O' mighty skills |
| 12:22:22 | bubsy | I mean, it's not that easy to fail as hard as he did |
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| 12:51:51 | * | scorche wonders if we have more topics to be added to the DevCon agenda, or if this is going to be a time off supplemented by Belgian beer ;) |
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| 12:56:32 | mt | linuxstb : I guess I'm ready to start porting now, right ? |
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| 13:02:50 | linuxstb | mt: Sure, now the fun starts! ;) |
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| 13:03:48 | linuxstb | Do you understand the Rockbox codec API? I think you'll need to rewrite the parser to fit in with that API more efficiently. |
| 13:04:02 | mt | \o/ |
| 13:04:35 | mt | I'll start with the parser yes. But I think I'll need to look more into how to handle memory buffers instead of file handles |
| 13:04:39 | linuxstb | Basically, your codec requests a pointer to the next chunk (up to 32KB) of the file to decode, then you decode it, then you tell Rockbox how many bytes of the input file you've consumed. The loop then starts again. |
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| 13:05:08 | linuxstb | For rm2wav, I would simply change it to read the entire file into RAM (malloc it), and then process that file. |
| 13:06:14 | mt | Why is malloc OK in this context ? Is the allocated memory freed before the playback starts? |
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| 14:02:28 | dfkt | is it correct that there's only the %iv WPS tag to display the id3 tag version, but no tag for indicating vorbis/flac/etc comments on the wps screen? |
| 14:04:16 | dfkt | thinking of it, doesn't make much sense, i'll just use %ar%?iv<ID3 v%iv|No Tags> |
| 14:09:20 | linuxstb | dfkt: "No Tags" doesn't sound right... |
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| 14:10:31 | dfkt | linuxstb, indeed, just changed it to %?iv<ID3 v%iv|> |
| 14:10:45 | linuxstb | mt: I was just talking about your "rm2wav" test program - loading the entire file into memory, then processing that buffer is closer to the Rockbox codec API. |
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| 14:13:14 | mt | linuxstb : Do you mean the parser or the decoder (The one that should handle a memory buffer) ? Because I looked into various get_metadata() implementations and they seem to use file descriptors. (Correct me ?) |
| 14:14:19 | linuxstb | get_metadata() (i.e. code in apps/metadata/) is different - that needs to read from the file descriptors, and just needs to read the file metadata. The code in apps/codecs/ doesn't need to read the metadata, and reads from a memory buffer. |
| 14:14:33 | linuxstb | So in practice you need two parsers... |
| 14:15:26 | linuxstb | mt: Do you know anything about tags in realmedia files? I know about the basic title/author/copyright/comment tags, but I think there is some kind of extended tagging as well. |
| 14:16:21 | mt | umm .. Seems like I just got what you meant. :) You mean making the test program (rm2wav.c and main.c) deal with memory buffers to emulate what would actually be done by the codec api. Correct ? |
| 14:16:55 | mt | Otoh, get_metadata() would work normally like the current parser. |
| 14:17:04 | linuxstb | Correct ;) |
| 14:19:45 | mt | linuxstb : I don't know if there's any extended tagging. I've known that tags are only available in CONT chunk (which just contain the info you mentioned) .. |
| 14:22:26 | mt | This is for new formats though (.ra version 5) .. old formats didn't have such chunks. But they all have only title/author/copyright/comment as tags. |
| 14:26:49 | mt | linuxstb : http://pastebin.com/d56525bcb from ffmpeg/libavformat/rm.c |
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| 14:29:36 | linuxstb | mt: Yes, but I've read elsewhere about more tags. Let me try and find the link... |
| 14:29:46 | mt | OK. |
| 14:32:05 | mt | I guess I'll start porting by writing get_rm_metadata() and a fake cook codec which would just sleep for a while to be able to see whether the tags are parsed correctly. |
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| 14:34:18 | linuxstb | You could just use the dummy codec you've written. |
| 14:34:40 | * | linuxstb can't find any more info about rm tagging, so gives up for now |
| 14:34:59 | mt | Or that :) |
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| 15:11:36 | pyro_maniac1 | funman: ping |
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| 15:15:41 | funman | pyro_maniac1: pong |
| 15:16:49 | pyro_maniac1 | funman: i ve seen your comment on the samsung port. did you noticed, that rockbox can access the hdd without the rockbox bootloader? |
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| 15:17:09 | funman | yes I just saw (I edited my comment, dunno if you saw the old or new one) |
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| 15:17:24 | funman | i'm just trying some hacking, but I have trouble plugging the YH920 on usb |
| 15:17:35 | pyro_maniac1 | funman: :) so i ve seen the old one |
| 15:17:41 | kugel | Zagor: the 1GB microsd was a extra gift? :> |
| 15:18:07 | Zagor | oh! :-) |
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| 15:18:28 | Zagor | keep it if you have use for it, otherwise send it back |
| 15:18:35 | funman | quick; dump the passwords ! |
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| 15:19:24 | funman | I wonder if I broke the hard disk |
| 15:19:25 | pixelma | kugel: maybe you can give it back at DevCon or so |
| 15:19:47 | juane414 | hey guys when I try to run my WPS in the sim I get an error saying that the bitmap is too large for the buffer... anyone know what is causing this or how I can fix it? |
| 15:19:57 | funman | kernel messages stop before showing the partitions, and /dev/sdb isn't created |
| 15:20:21 | kugel | OF usb or Rockbox USB? |
| 15:20:26 | evilnick | juane414: Sounds like you have too many images in the wps |
| 15:20:29 | kugel | pixelma: good idea! |
| 15:20:46 | funman | OF (rockbox usb didn't seem to work but I only tried one time : now i focus on bootloader) |
| 15:20:51 | juane414 | evilnick: I only have 8 images |
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| 15:21:17 | kugel | Zagor: thanks a lot :) |
| 15:21:32 | evilnick | How large are they though? 8 fullscreen images may well be too many. You could always try it on target too. |
| 15:22:35 | juane414 | All the images are 110x110 |
| 15:22:37 | juane414 | maybe thats why |
| 15:23:07 | evilnick | juane414: Out of interest, which target are you making the wps for? Is there a mock-up of it anywhere |
| 15:23:25 | juane414 | not sure what you mean by target |
| 15:23:42 | evilnick | which DAP/mp3 player? |
| 15:23:57 | juane414 | iPod video |
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| 15:27:14 | salty-horse | is the album art file still limited to bmp, as stated in the manual? |
| 15:27:26 | evilnick | No, jpeg is supported now |
| 15:29:09 | preglow | how's the jpg aa support work anyway? |
| 15:29:10 | preglow | technically |
| 15:29:21 | salty-horse | ok. maybe the manual should be updated :) manual/appendix/album_art.tex |
| 15:29:49 | preglow | i can't remember having seen any jpg core commits |
| 15:29:55 | evilnick | salty-horse: It will be in time, I'm sure. Before the next release happens, the manuals will be updated. |
| 15:30:00 | salty-horse | evilnick, can the images scale as well? or do I have to provide them in the correct dimensions? |
| 15:30:17 | salty-horse | evilnick, is there a TODO written anywhere for it? :) |
| 15:30:21 | evilnick | preglow: Unhelpful is the man to check with, there was at least one commit last night to do with this |
| 15:30:30 | evilnick | salty-horse: Yes, they will auto-scale |
| 15:30:40 | evilnick | salty-horse: Check the wiki, I'll find the link in a sex |
| 15:30:43 | evilnick | sec* |
| 15:30:47 | evilnick | :s |
| 15:31:19 | evilnick | salty-horse: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/AlbumArt |
| 15:31:37 | * | LambdaCalculus37 will fix the Album Art section of the manual |
| 15:31:47 | evilnick | It's pretty much the same as for .bmp, with the addition of folder.jpg as that's used by a whole lot of other media players |
| 15:31:59 | * | evilnick pats LambdaCalculus37 on the back |
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| 15:33:02 | pixelma | preglow: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev;revision=20836 |
| 15:33:03 | * | salty-horse thanks LambdaCalculus37 |
| 15:33:12 | * | salty-horse also thanks evilnick |
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| 15:33:37 | preglow | ahh, in core decoding |
| 15:33:38 | preglow | good |
| 15:33:42 | preglow | i was fearing some plugin hack |
| 15:33:52 | preglow | pixelma: thanks |
| 15:34:49 | evilnick | preglow: It's working wonderfully for me, and it's so nice to not have to maintain a load of cover.bmp files as well as folder.jpg! |
| 15:35:21 | preglow | i definitely sympathise |
| 15:35:40 | preglow | i've even got a of album art files lying around, perhaps it's time to stuff them where they belong |
| 15:35:45 | preglow | lots of them are .png, of course... |
| 15:37:36 | funman | wasn't dionoea looking at a png decoder (as a plugin) ? |
| 15:38:24 | preglow | mebbe |
| 15:38:29 | preglow | the more formats the merrier |
| 15:38:45 | preglow | png doesn't really need to be so huge either, but an in-core decoder isn't anything that's sorely needed, i guess |
| 15:38:56 | preglow | most album art is probably jpg |
| 15:41:24 | kugel | it probably would be more popular if it was more widely supported :) |
| 15:41:31 | funman | pyro_maniac1: have you tried hacking around YH920 storage ? |
| 15:42:27 | pyro_maniac1 | funman: i am not that pro. i only tried to find a way runnig firmware parts of other devices on it |
| 15:43:29 | salty-horse | evilnick, the "picture format" section of the wiki specifyies only BMP. detailed information on which jpeg formats to use is missing |
| 15:43:35 | CIA-38 | New commit by kkurbjun (r20942): M:Robe 500: Commit some minor changes and some keymap changes (short press power takes you out of the WPS) |
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| 15:47:27 | evilnick | salty-horse: No it doesn't. ;) |
| 15:48:26 | salty-horse | evilnick, I must be hallucinating |
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| 15:49:15 | evilnick | (check when it was last modified) |
| 15:50:31 | juane414 | what is the purpose of viewports? |
| 15:50:38 | juane414 | i don't think i'm understanding them |
| 15:50:57 | evilnick | So that you can update just a small fraction of the screen rather than the whole thing |
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| 15:52:12 | pixelma | and place things as you like it (especially useful for text) |
| 15:52:46 | pyro_maniac1 | funman: can you see something in the bootloader? |
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| 15:54:19 | funman | well yes, the logo & model version. but everything stops in init_storage() |
| 15:55:18 | kugel | have you tried cpu_set_frequency()? |
| 15:55:39 | linuxstb | juane414: They also limit (horizontally) scrolling lines - prior to viewports, they would scroll all the way to the right of the screen. |
| 15:55:49 | funman | yes I did (required a bit of tweaking) |
| 15:55:57 | juane414 | okay i think that makes sense |
| 15:56:16 | pyro_maniac1 | funman: have you tried to boot the OF out of the bootloader? |
| 15:56:51 | funman | well since the bootloader stops before disk is accessible, no. |
| 15:57:26 | funman | I tried with a delay added in REG_SET macro, but disk access was wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too slow and i didn't have the patience to wait 10 hours or so |
| 15:57:39 | pyro_maniac1 | funman: iirc i was able to do it |
| 15:58:03 | funman | can you see the disk ID in your YH920 ? (with the bootloader) |
| 15:58:08 | funman | I think mine is a Toshiba or something |
| 15:59:28 | salty-horse | evilnick, I know ;) |
| 15:59:47 | salty-horse | I usually forget to emote |
| 15:59:54 | pyro_maniac1 | funman: i didn't noticed that |
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| 16:03:07 | funman | if it isn't showed, you can't boot OF (hard disk isn't operational) |
| 16:03:39 | pyro_maniac1 | is it shown on boot? |
| 16:03:56 | funman | yes, on the bootloader screen |
| 16:05:24 | pyro_maniac1 | i can't test it now but there is a number as you can see on my bad screenshot in the forum |
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| 16:34:26 | BdN3504 | juane414 send me an e-mail, so i can code the wps with you and then comment on what i'v been doing so you learn it properly. http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?action=useremail;u=13867 |
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| 16:53:10 | CIA-38 | New commit by kugel (r20943): Fix FS #10197 by setting the viewport before calculating the string size. |
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| 17:14:44 | MarcGuay | kugel: Nice fix. I was doing some debugging and that was causing me problems. |
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| 17:15:20 | LambdaCalculus37 | MarcGuay: Ahoy, anything new with the Sansa c100 port? |
| 17:16:08 | MarcGuay | LambdaCalculus37: Nope. I had some stuff a while ago, enough to boot Rockbox and display the NAND error (I think). |
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| 17:17:22 | LambdaCalculus37 | MarcGuay: Do you think you may want to pick it back up? I want to also see what else can be done with the Sansa m200 port as well. |
| 17:17:43 | MarcGuay | LambdaCalculus37: Crossed my mind but I haven't had much steam for it. |
| 17:18:11 | MarcGuay | I wouldn't know where to take it from there anyway. Programming a NAND driver is out of my league. |
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| 17:44:46 | * | kugel has a problem with rockblox/hexdumps |
| 17:44:46 | OnJen | hi |
| 17:45:06 | evilnick | hey |
| 17:45:16 | OnJen | eveytime after 3 sec my ipod min 2g crashes |
| 17:45:16 | kugel | I want to implement resume for rockblox |
| 17:45:25 | OnJen | *mini |
| 17:45:36 | OnJen | he turns off himself |
| 17:45:43 | kugel | I planned to hexdump a struct which contains the board, score, level etc (everything necessary) |
| 17:46:01 | kugel | it generally works, but I get weird blocks in the upper part of the board |
| 17:47:10 | kugel | I do the hexdump with rb->write(RESUME_FILE, &rockblox_status, sizeof(struckt _rockblox_status)); and load the dump using read with the same arguments. |
| 17:48:07 | kugel | is there something wrong with it? I can't explain the blocks that appear (that blocks actually also appear when using the old codepath). Also, I get weird :0:0 prints to my terminal in the sim after loading the dump |
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| 18:34:53 | funman | I got bootloader working on YH920! kugel_ do you have one ? |
| 18:39:43 | funman | ah no you have yh925, and pyro_maniac is gone, and lowlight didn't publish his code for sound yet :( |
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| 18:52:06 | kugel | funman: nice work! sadly, lowlight seems hesitating about letting us try/see his samsung code in general |
| 18:52:44 | kugel | funman: also, have you got USB working? on my 925 it detects when I plugin, but it doesn't connect |
| 18:52:58 | funman | no |
| 18:53:21 | funman | hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 6 |
| 18:53:35 | kugel | using the plain h10 20GB build, USB works (including data transfer), though rockbox things it's connected all the tiem (wrong GPIO pin) |
| 18:53:41 | kugel | thinks* |
| 18:53:48 | kugel | time* |
| 18:55:02 | funman | we need to find the correct pin then |
| 18:55:19 | kugel | the pin is correct |
| 18:55:30 | funman | i wanted to look at FM also, but without sound to debug i'm not sure |
| 18:55:52 | funman | in usb-fw-pp502x.c I only see the USB_GPIO* depending on model (H10) |
| 18:56:08 | funman | and in usb-drv-arc.c : nothing model dependant |
| 18:56:56 | kugel | at least on the 925. i.e. it shows the usb logo upon plugging in |
| 18:57:21 | kugel | funman: Yea, I've looked it it very quickly too and didn't find what's missing |
| 18:57:45 | kugel | but plugging in and watching the i/o ports debug screen only shows the pin already used |
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| 19:07:51 | funman | the TargetStatus mentions YP-T7Z and YH925-GS , but I believe they have not been tested |
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| 20:02:27 | vixus | Hey, have there been any updates to Rockbox's metronome app or does it still just produce clicks at a certain BPM? |
| 20:02:54 | vixus | I saw some code out there that allowed you to play a different sound for one of the beats |
| 20:03:27 | evilnick | Try upgrading and you'll find out, off-hand I can't recall any changes to it recently, but I'm not directly looking for that. |
| 20:04:36 | vixus | i'll check subversion commits for the last 12 months |
| 20:06:01 | vixus | nope.. nothing I can find. |
| 20:06:06 | vixus | there is a patch around though |
| 20:06:29 | evilnick | Yep, I think I vaguely remember seeing it, but I haven't compiled it |
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| 20:07:57 | vixus | Namely this one: http://labb.contactor.se/tracker/task/6255?project=1&type=4&pagenum=3 |
| 20:08:00 | vixus | I'll give it a go |
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| 20:09:08 | funman | hi bertrik ! did you see my post about i2c clkdiv on forum thread? |
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| 20:10:52 | pixelma | vixus: I highly doubt this still applies ok - and the comment seems to confirm |
| 20:11:17 | vixus | hrm, true |
| 20:11:29 | vixus | i'll take a look anyway |
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| 20:11:36 | vixus | Might be able to do it myself |
| 20:11:43 | bertrik | meh |
| 20:11:54 | vixus | metronome's one of the most useful apps there, for me anyway. :P |
| 20:13:44 | pixelma | I think that patch is even from before the keymap rework in metronome (which caused/s more trouble for some targets) |
| 20:15:10 | vixus | yeah, i won't be using it |
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| 21:54:02 | mt | Is there a funciton for reading a big endian uint16 (something like read_uint16be ? ) I can only find one for uint32 |
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| 21:56:05 | froggyman | are there plans on creating a *small* wiki page about how to dump the OF to increase boot time (with FS #9730) |
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| 21:59:55 | froggyman | there has already been one person to ask, there will be others |
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| 22:00:09 | pixelma | you know, it's a wiki ;) |
| 22:01:32 | * | froggyman is unsure of how to do it ib the 1st place |
| 22:01:52 | froggyman | but i did see the recent post and am trying to do it |
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| 22:10:59 | linuxstb | froggyman: BTW, it doesn't _increase_ boottime... (that was my typo) |
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| 22:17:01 | froggyman | ohh whoops DECREASE boot time, increase "happinness" |
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| 22:21:00 | pixelma | does someone have a better idea for an "RTC present" tag abreviation? Currently I'm using "cc" just because I wanted it to start with a c (actually thought of "cp" for "clock present" but that's already used |
| 22:22:15 | AlexP | tp? |
| 22:22:19 | AlexP | time present |
| 22:22:29 | AlexP | but to be honest, I don't think it matters much |
| 22:22:35 | AlexP | You need to look it up anyway |
| 22:23:50 | pixelma | yeah, true |
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| 22:27:52 | JdGordon| | arnt the rtc tags r<something>? |
| 22:28:13 | JdGordon| | cP maybe? |
| 22:29:03 | mt | Isn't uint32_t == unsigned int ? |
| 22:29:19 | JdGordon| | and 32bit long... |
| 22:29:52 | JdGordon| | oh, no... uint32_t guearentees it will always be 32bit lont and unsigned |
| 22:29:54 | linuxstb | mt: Maybe, but it's not guaranteed on every CPU. |
| 22:30:12 | mt | so if I pass a function a uint32_t* instead of a (unsigned int *) I shouldn't be warned about incompatible types ? |
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| 22:31:20 | JdGordon| | you might be on the 64bit sims... |
| 22:32:34 | mt | I'm on a e200 sim |
| 22:33:32 | pixelma | JdGordon|: "cp" and "cP" both exists - for a lower resp. upper case AM/PM indicator |
| 22:34:02 | JdGordon| | c$ maybe? |
| 22:34:15 | pixelma | rtc tags are all c<something>, but strictly speaking this isn't an RTC tag |
| 22:34:16 | JdGordon| | you arn't limited to the alphabet |
| 22:34:32 | JdGordon| | true, but it shuold be in the same grounping |
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| 22:34:56 | saratoga | you'll be warned on a 64 bit sim probably, but not on a 32 bit one |
| 22:35:40 | mt | I'm receiving warnings though :/ |
| 22:35:59 | mt | I believe e200 is 32-bit |
| 22:36:29 | JdGordon| | the sim doesnt emulate the targets bitness... |
| 22:36:43 | JdGordon| | so if you're on a 64bit os then the sim is 64bit |
| 22:37:22 | pixelma | JdGordon|: any specific reason for chosing $ there? I mean I don't know if it has a reference to something common to other computer stuff, to me it would be as good as any other character... |
| 22:37:39 | JdGordon| | nope, was just a random character |
| 22:37:51 | JdGordon| | c? might make sense, but would be very confusing |
| 22:37:53 | Hillshum | câ–‘ |
| 22:38:08 | AlexP | I'd just go for c<free letter> |
| 22:38:52 | pixelma | JdGordon|: yeah, %?c?<|> would read weird |
| 22:40:13 | mt | Though the code still needs lots of cleaning, but the get_rm_metadata is working fine and redirects to the correct codec as expected. |
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| 22:40:53 | saratoga | mt: great! |
| 22:41:11 | * | mt goes to update the wiki :) |
| 22:41:14 | Hillshum | On FS #9971, can we consider Teruaki to be a real name or do we need more? |
| 22:41:40 | pixelma | I believe he's already in the Credits - with full real name |
| 22:42:27 | Hillshum | can that be committed then? |
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| 22:53:09 | mt | I still can't figure out why I'm receiving the "incompatible types" warning .. sizeof(unsigned int) is 4 on my machine, so I should be able to interchange it for uint32_t without warnings, shouldn't I ? |
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| 22:54:08 | amiconn | On most common 64 bit architectures, an int is still 32 bit though |
| 22:55:15 | salty-horse | I noticed that *.jpg files have a generic icons instead of a brush+monitor like *.bmp files. intentional? |
| 22:55:55 | mt | and I just tried doing that in small test case (outside rockbox) and compiled with no warnings. |
| 22:56:08 | bluebrother | yes: jpg files are associated with the jpegviewer plugin while bmp are (unsurprisingly) not |
| 22:56:38 | pixelma | jpgs can have different icons, not sure what was chosen in the default theme for them |
| 22:57:01 | pixelma | (I still use and prefer the builtin ones) |
| 22:58:52 | AlexP | What is the "cut-off" point for adding to CREDITS? I'm about to apply http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10204 |
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| 23:08:09 | mt | hmm .. apparently, uint32_t is defined as long unsigned int, which would be the cause of the warnings. (I also did : #undef uint32_t then #define uint32_t unsigned int and the warnings disappeared) |
| 23:10:17 | pixelma | AlexP: do you mean about the amount of work or because of his name? |
| 23:10:32 | AlexP | pixelma: Amount of work |
| 23:10:50 | AlexP | pixelma: I've done a bit of googling and the name seems real |
| 23:11:53 | pixelma | I've been told that every tiny bit of work deserves being honoured (and already added people for one-liners) |
| 23:12:08 | AlexP | Good enough for debian, good enough for us (as far as the name goes) :) |
| 23:12:12 | mt | Should I add a read_byte() and read_uint16be() to metadata.c/h ? |
| 23:12:46 | AlexP | pixelma: Okey dokey |
| 23:13:46 | pixelma | yes, seems to be his real name (and a semi-famous case), it will read a bit weird though I guess because his name sounds like a nickname |
| 23:14:07 | AlexP | yeah, I'm prepared to get questions when people see the commit :) |
| 23:14:30 | LambdaCalculus37 | Currently album art will also be found if the filenames are cover.jpg and folder.jpg, right? |
| 23:15:06 | * | pixelma hopes gl.itter (or what was his name?) doesn't pay attention anymore ;) |
| 23:15:28 | AlexP | pixelma: Well that was never his real name |
| 23:15:32 | AlexP | And nor did he claim it was |
| 23:15:45 | pixelma | yeah |
| 23:15:55 | pixelma | LambdaCalculus37: thought so |
| 23:16:16 | Hillshum | LambdaCalculus37: Mine is all folder.jpg (on e200v2 fwiw) |
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| 23:17:16 | LambdaCalculus37 | Has anyone tried to see if JPEG AA will read from .rockbox/albumart if the filename is in the artist-albumtitle standard? |
| 23:17:26 | CIA-38 | New commit by alex (r20945): Apply FS #10204 by Wookey (yes, his real name :)) - Add the subline tags to the WPS Tags summary appendix. |
| 23:17:47 | pixelma | JdGordon|: would be nice if you could have a real quick look at http://rockbox.pastebin.ca/1424076 (just want someone to check because I wasn't sure about the WPS_REFRESH_DYNAMIC bit which I only cp'ed, seems to work correctly though) |
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| 23:19:16 | pixelma | hrmr... the manual... |
| 23:20:09 | AlexP | pixelma: Yeah, it's about time you did some manual stuff :P |
| 23:21:12 | mt | linuxstb : Is it OK to add a read_byte() and read_uint16be to metadata.h ? |
| 23:22:03 | CIA-38 | New commit by rmenes (r20946): Make a mention of the now-supported JPEG album art in the manual. |
| 23:23:02 | AlexP | LambdaCalculus37: I it worth mentioning about the (non-)pregressive requirements of jpg? |
| 23:23:18 | AlexP | s/I/Is/ |
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| 23:23:48 | LambdaCalculus37 | AlexP: Yes, agreed. Should've done it sooner. ;) |
| 23:24:05 | AlexP | LambdaCalculus37: I don't know if it is mentioned in the jpeg viewer plugin either |
| 23:24:52 | AlexP | yes, it seems it is |
| 23:25:10 | AlexP | Progressive incidently :) |
| 23:27:11 | LambdaCalculus37 | AlexP: I revised it. |
| 23:27:19 | AlexP | cool |
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| 23:28:56 | CIA-38 | New commit by rmenes (r20947): I think we should also make mention of support BMP ... |
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| 23:30:07 | CIA-38 | New commit by rmenes (r20948): Credit where credit's due. :) |
| 23:30:37 | LambdaCalculus37 | AlexP: I also added in the mention of RLE-compressed BMPs. |
| 23:30:51 | AlexP | good work :) |
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| 23:31:34 | LambdaCalculus37 | And gave evilnick due credit because I lifted it from the AlbumArt wiki page. :) |
| 23:32:36 | LambdaCalculus37 | And he was the one who added that. |
| 23:32:53 | pixelma | LambdaCalculus37: is the list of filenames ordered by priority? |
| 23:33:39 | pixelma | because if so and I understood Unhelpful correctly then *.jpg has to come first |
| 23:33:40 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: They should be. |
| 23:33:47 | LambdaCalculus37 | Oh crap. |
| 23:33:59 | LambdaCalculus37 | Unhelpful: Ping, confirm what pixelma said, please? |
| 23:35:38 | mr_pink | Re: Wookey - it is his real name, I know him IRL. See http://wookware.org/name.html |
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| 23:37:07 | AlexP | mr_pink: We know - he linked that himself. However, I searched a little further as what someone says on their own website isn't exactly gospel :) |
| 23:37:14 | pixelma | LambdaCalculus37: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20090507#09:29:09 (but I'm not sure how exactly that works, I mean does e.g. cover.jpg have priority over cover.bmp only or everything else)? |
| 23:37:54 | AlexP | mr_pink: You'll note however by the fact that I committed the patch and put him in CREDITS that I believed him. I even said as much in the commit message |
| 23:38:09 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: I'll revise it once more. |
| 23:38:44 | LambdaCalculus37 | cover.jpg first over folder.jpg? |
| 23:38:49 | pixelma | maybe wait for Unhelpful to know whether to put it on top completely or just move it a bit up |
| 23:38:58 | mr_pink | AlexP: Just saw that on FS as well! Not suggesting you didn't, just brings me a certain amount of amusement when there's discussion of it! He does get asked about it a lot... |
| 23:39:16 | AlexP | mr_pink: I would contend that that is his own fault :) |
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| 23:41:19 | CIA-38 | New commit by rmenes (r20949): I had the file priority mixed up. |
| 23:41:39 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: Well, now I made four commits in a row... a new record! :P |
| 23:42:35 | AlexP | LambdaCalculus37: It doesn't count until you own the frontpage :) |
| 23:43:54 | LambdaCalculus37 | AlexP: :) |
| 23:44:55 | LambdaCalculus37 | AlexP: And progressive JPEGs are mentioned in the jpegviewer plugin manual page already. |
| 23:45:10 | AlexP | LambdaCalculus37: Yeah, I checked that too |
| 23:45:20 | LambdaCalculus37 | Anyways, I'm off for now. |
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| 23:47:24 | mt | Is anyone free to check http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10182 ? |
| 23:47:36 | linuxstb | mt: That should be fine. But I would call it "read_uint8()" or "read_int8()" depending on whether it is signed. |
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| 23:48:30 | * | pixelma thinks the MASCODEC opt should be revised (can be replaced by the masf, masd feature opts) |
| 23:49:20 | mt | linuxstb : OK, That's how it's written currently. :) |
| 23:50:07 | linuxstb | mt: So I see ;) |
| 23:50:17 | bluebrother | hmm, why is the mtp dll named MTP_DLL.dll? |
| 23:50:34 | bluebrother | wouldn't it be better to use something like mtp-beast.dll? |
| 23:53:31 | linuxstb | Is it specific to the beast? |
| 23:54:45 | linuxstb | mt: One thing you should check before committing is the binary size (and RAM usage) of your patch - you can look at the rockbox-info.txt file created with and without your patch. |
| 23:55:03 | bluebrother | well, somewhat. send_fw() sends a file nk.bin, so that's specific to the beast at least. |
| 23:55:03 | linuxstb | (because this code is in the core, efficiency is important) |
| 23:55:12 | bluebrother | of course that could get moved to an argument |
| 23:57:43 | mt | linuxstb : Ram usage = 0 .. Binary size = 2712028 (That's with the code). |
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| 23:58:25 | linuxstb | mt: Also, have you tested it on a real device, not just the sim? |
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