| 00:01:23 | amiconn | Not having the dotted frame essentially means tabbed navigation doesn't work, imo |
| 00:03:19 | CIA-38 | New commit by alle (r20991): Forgot emdash and endash for 19-Nimbus |
| 00:03:50 | pixelma | that's an easy fix though. I also did not understand why he chose it this why |
| 00:03:54 | pixelma | errr... way |
| 00:04:40 | _fml | kugel (for the logs): what was the cause of the problem with loading/dumping the state in rockblox and how did you fix it? The code snippet you posted here seemed to be correct. |
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| 00:06:02 | * | domonoky thinks that on the new website design, the wiki changes and mailing list thing doesnt really fit, maybe it would be better to put them also into the topbar ? (with scroll out, like svn) |
| 00:07:29 | Zagor | svn is going to the dev page |
| 00:07:51 | gevaerts | Yay, a firm decision! :) |
| 00:08:51 | Llorean | Zagor: Even though it's users who want it on the main page, and only devs who think it should go to the dev page? |
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| 00:10:17 | Zagor | let's call it the "details" page then |
| 00:11:08 | Zagor | the main thing is that the front page, at least in my first variant, is simply introducing Rockbox. what it is, what it does and how you get it. and how you find more details. |
| 00:11:26 | Llorean | I just meant, users like to see that things are changing even on casual visits. I think the full SVN details is too much, but even something as simple as "last update to the current build happened at (time+date)" somewhere |
| 00:11:53 | domonoky | then i would suggest to move the wiki changes and mailing list list also to the details page :-) |
| 00:11:59 | Llorean | A way that even new people can see that the project was active quite recently. I prefer a list of a few things, but that adds clutter. |
| 00:12:13 | Zagor | yes, I agree some sort of activity indicator has its' place |
| 00:12:30 | domonoky | maybe we could include some "activity" in the yellow bar to the right ? |
| 00:13:16 | domonoky | something like a nice realtime graph of commits/activities or something :-) |
| 00:13:41 | pixelma | I always wanted to try if the recent changes things look more friendly in a list form (first line with date and author, below the topic), maybe that would already help |
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| 00:18:43 | dfkt | would it be acceptable to ask in flyspray for balance implementation on the x5's line-out? |
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| 00:20:26 | pixelma | why do you want to adjust balance for line-out on the player by the way (not the attached stereo)? |
| 00:20:46 | dfkt | for a portable headphone amp, and because i'm hearing impaired |
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| 00:22:54 | Llorean | dfkt: Flyspray is not for feature requests. |
| 00:23:42 | dfkt | that's why i ask, is it a "bug" is it a "feature"? since the OF does have balance |
| 00:24:01 | AlexP | The OF doesn't matter |
| 00:24:02 | Llorean | The OF doesn't determine anything |
| 00:24:21 | dfkt | i shouldn't have mentioned that, sorry |
| 00:24:38 | Llorean | It's a bug if something doesn't work the way it's "supposed" to work as per how the developers intend it to work. |
| 00:24:48 | Llorean | If you want it to do something new that it wasn't intended to do before, it's a feature request. |
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| 00:26:29 | dfkt | so i guess asking about it here in the channel is the reasonable thing to do then, or in the forums? |
| 00:26:57 | Llorean | Generally the response you're going to get hear is that you should probably work on it yourself if you really want it. |
| 00:27:14 | Llorean | *here |
| 00:27:50 | Llorean | You can post it in the "feature ideas" section of the forums, but Rockbox is entirely a volunteer effort. |
| 00:27:54 | AlexP | And in the forums you'll get a couple of people saying "Yeah, that'd be great" but nobody does anything |
| 00:28:58 | froggyman | he could post it in FS after he gets something "working", right? |
| 00:29:13 | AlexP | Sure, if he writes a patch |
| 00:29:47 | Llorean | froggyman: No "s around it. It needs to actually do something. |
| 00:31:36 | froggyman | Llorean: ohh, sorry |
| 00:32:48 | pixelma | not sure if it's wanted. The X5/M5 (M3 too?) seems to be a true line-out independent from the headphones - it always has the same volume, except you can mute it. I thought it's intended then that it always works "at the same level", but am not sure |
| 00:34:44 | Llorean | pixelma: Generally, yeah, the policy has been that the line out should be as independent as the hardware will allow from sound altering affects |
| 00:34:54 | pixelma | dfkt: maybe try starting a discussion at another time, maybe in the ml or so |
| 00:35:10 | dfkt | ml? |
| 00:35:14 | Llorean | Mailing list. |
| 00:35:34 | high-rez | So something weird. The iPod port on my Subaru seems to work sort of. However I get audio drops... It plays for 5 seconds and drops for 10 (times are actually estimated). |
| 00:35:51 | high-rez | (5th gen ipod video 30g) |
| 00:37:04 | dfkt | pixelma, the eq precut works on the line-out for volume change, but of course it's not what it's intended to do |
| 00:38:12 | Llorean | dfkt: The eq precut works because it's an effect applied in software. |
| 00:39:10 | pixelma | I guess that has something to do with the fact that some sound altering effects have to be done in software (same as bass and treble on the Iaudios). But I am really on slippery ground now... |
| 00:40:01 | Llorean | pixelma: That's basically it. Software effects like EQ go to both outputs no matter what since, iiuc, they happen before audio even gets into the PCM buffer. |
| 00:40:25 | * | Llorean is pretty sure he told this to dfkt once already a day or two ago |
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| 00:55:52 | Zarathu | Hey guys, does Rockbox support the iTrip now or do I still need to recompile with that patch? |
| 00:56:40 | evilnick_home | Zarathu: Upgrade to the latest build and check it out |
| 00:56:52 | Zarathu | evilnick_home: I'll take that as a yes. Thanks. |
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| 01:31:47 | * | Strife89 would like to improve FS #10202 but can't find figure out how to write keymap tables. |
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| 01:36:30 | pixelma | have you looked at other plugin tex files? |
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| 01:40:23 | Strife1989 | pixelma: A little. |
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| 01:41:06 | Strife89 | pixelma: What's a color-only plugin aside from Rockpaint? |
| 01:44:12 | pixelma | according the manual's plugins/main.tex the ppmviewer is |
| 01:50:19 | JdGordon| | Llorean: you get a chance to test out the usb charge atch yet? |
| 01:50:33 | JdGordon| | .. and maybe fix the manual language while your atr it? |
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| 02:31:48 | michaelcarr | FS #10202 updated. http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10202 |
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| 02:39:12 | Strife89 | I know the keymaps aren't complete, but that didn't stop other manual entries. Does anyone object to commiting this? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10202 |
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| 02:57:42 | Llorean | Strife89: The manual's gotten along fine without Rockpaint. Why not put the rest of the work in first? |
| 02:58:04 | Llorean | JdGordon: Sorry, haven't been able to. Housesitting and don't have anything with me to test on. |
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| 02:59:01 | Strife89 | Llorean: Because I'm not sure how much of the keymaps I can even get done.... |
| 02:59:33 | Llorean | Strife89: The keymaps are defined in the source, right? |
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| 03:00:07 | Strife89 | ... Oh, yeah.... ^^: |
| 03:00:22 | Llorean | JdGordon: The forum post seems to be about the feature that was there briefly to leave USB mode by pressing Select after your device was already connected. |
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| 03:06:07 | Strife89 | Llorean: Thanks for reminding me of that, that'll make things much easier. :) |
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| 04:29:04 | bluefoxx | So is there a bootloader for the e200 that entirely disables the OF? |
| 04:29:59 | bluefoxx | Seeing as rockbox does everything that DAP firmware should do and more(emulators, apps, games, washes your pants and makes great julian fries, etc) |
| 04:32:14 | Galois | I find the e200 rockbox slightly unreliable for USB transfers, so I still use the OF for that |
| 04:35:57 | Unhelpful | if i'm understanding this correctly, i can't really make used of the coldfire multiply accumulate with load instruction to load in packed 8-bit values - it *looks* like it reads in the same size as used for the MAC operation, and i would assume that needs to be aligned, as well? |
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| 04:38:22 | tmzt | bluefoxx: there was some discussion of that a while a go, I think it's possible but don't know how or if you would really want to do it |
| 04:38:46 | bluefoxx | because i have an 8 gig microsd card in the thing that i can't access otherwise |
| 04:38:53 | bluefoxx | and i loath the OF with a firey passion |
| 04:39:18 | bluefoxx | you have no idea how many times i returned one of these because the OF barfed on itself before i found rockbox |
| 04:40:43 | bluefoxx | it's done stupid things like refusing to show up on a system at all, to barfing a green screen on bootup, or a blue one, to magically making my files vanish, or how about having the thing loaded with music, and it refusing to show anything |
| 04:41:07 | bluefoxx | or it barfes a green/blue screen when it goes to update the database... |
| 04:41:15 | bluefoxx | for that matter, it sucks just for not doing sdhc... |
| 04:41:36 | bluefoxx | i can think of dozens of ways why i want to obliterate it and use rockbox only |
| 04:41:41 | Unhelpful | bluefoxx: there's a bootloader on flyspray that doesn't automatically boot OF on USB insert startup :P |
| 04:42:10 | bluefoxx | for that matter, i do, but its a bit of a pain to have to manually start the thing up into rockbox before i go and plug the usb in... |
| 04:42:11 | bluefoxx | oh? |
| 04:42:21 | bluefoxx | do share a link if you don't mind... |
| 04:42:48 | bluefoxx | (i have a habit of remembering i meant to ask something in here when i'm grabbing the thing and going out the door but want to update the music...)( |
| 04:45:12 | Llorean | Galois: Unreliable how? Have you filed a bug report? |
| 04:47:03 | Unhelpful | bluefoxx: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9955 |
| 04:47:33 | bluefoxx | The only unreliable thing i've found with it so far is when it boots back into rockbox after having been in the OF, the microsd card refuses to show up until i reboot rockbox again and than reinsert the card... |
| 04:47:50 | bluefoxx | otherwise its actually faster ime |
| 04:47:57 | Llorean | bluefoxx: I more meant, what problem is he having with USB |
| 04:48:36 | Llorean | Bug reports mean at least someone knows about it. If one's not filed, and nobody else has it, nobody may even know it needs fixing |
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| 04:50:12 | bluefoxx | Right...I'm assuming that with those bootloaders i run sansapatcher and direct it to that file somehow??... |
| 04:51:40 | tmzt | I assume since e200v1 has a recovery mode it's possible to recover the firmware without OF |
| 04:52:26 | bluefoxx | boot the device with the center button held down and the hold switch on |
| 04:52:51 | bluefoxx | iirc (its been a good year and a bit since i managed to brick mine seriously enough to warrent such) |
| 04:52:53 | tmzt | yeah, that's what I mean |
| 04:53:23 | tmzt | there was a rockbox mi4 file made though, right? |
| 04:53:36 | bluefoxx | er? |
| 04:54:15 | tmzt | to allow flashing rockbox in place of OF |
| 04:54:48 | bluefoxx | ...you've lost me now... |
| 04:55:04 | bluefoxx | (than again, its not hard to right now..) |
| 04:55:40 | tmzt | mi4, the portal player firmware |
| 04:56:15 | bluefoxx | yes, i got that much.. |
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| 05:00:37 | Unhelpful | "rockbox.mi4" is the rockbox firmware that the rockbox bootloader loads, isn't it? |
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| 05:01:53 | bluefoxx | as far as i know, yes... |
| 05:02:47 | bluefoxx | my knowlage is a tad limited, not being a programmer and such, anyways, i have to go, someone has a surely horrific laptop for me to 'fix' or something |
| 05:10:34 | lee321987 | Gevaerts |
| 05:12:07 | lee321987 | anyone −− you know how your computer alerts you when someone types your name in IRC? Is this case-sensitive? |
| 05:13:10 | lee321987 | anyone seeing this? |
| 05:13:11 | rvvs89 | lee321987: That's done client-side, and depends on the client |
| 05:13:20 | lee321987 | thanks |
| 05:13:26 | lee321987 | gevaerts: |
| 05:13:59 | rvvs89 | lee321987: Although I expect that most clients ignore case when looking for hilightable words |
| 05:14:50 | lee321987 | if anyone talks to gevaerts, please give him my next to messages (I think they concern recent commits of his). |
| 05:14:56 | lee321987 | Gevaerts: USB transfer rate has slowed down. DAP: c200v1 ~~ RB:r20981 ~~ Computer to internal rate average = 3.59MB/s ~~ Computer to SD card write average = 3.78MB/s |
| 05:15:02 | lee321987 | RB:r20992 ~~ Computer to internal rate average = 2.98MB/s ~~ Computer to SD card write average = 3.23MB/s |
| 05:15:37 | lee321987 | *next TWO messages |
| 05:16:26 | tmzt | Unhelpful: I thought it was rockbox.sansa but I'm not sure, maybe that's just ams |
| 05:16:37 | tmzt | haven't had a v1 for a year now |
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| 05:20:50 | cool_walking_ | The archives on build.rockbox.org contain .rockbox/rockbox.mi4 ... |
| 05:21:08 | lee321987 | I think I need a new DAP. Is RB working on any that are currently in production? |
| 05:21:25 | cool_walking_ | lee321987: I don't think so. |
| 05:21:40 | bluefoxx | check your local craigslist for an e200 |
| 05:22:06 | lee321987 | do you know if that takes the same battery as the c200? |
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| 05:22:18 | lee321987 | sorry - off topic. |
| 05:23:17 | bluefoxx | oh yay, crashed rockbox while doing USB transfers. Note to self: don't do more than two moves from player to sd at once... |
| 05:23:49 | hobbs | Silly opinion question: I have a Gigabeat S30 that I've been running Rockbox on, but the hardware is flaking out on me and I'm probably not up to fixing it. Which would probably make me happier? A new Gigabeat S off eBay or a supported (classic) iPod off eBay? And which iPod is the best? |
| 05:24:10 | bluefoxx | avoid ipods at all costs is my opinion |
| 05:24:38 | bluefoxx | but i have to fix the occasional apple product, and detest them more and more, so i'm somewhat biased against them |
| 05:24:43 | hobbs | I lean that way a bit myself ;) |
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| 05:25:03 | hobbs | iPod seems like mostly decent hardware though. I just want something that will be reliable |
| 05:25:29 | bluefoxx | oh this is just fan-fucking-tastic...now rockbox completely freaks out on USB connects... |
| 05:25:31 | hobbs | (and have a goodly amount of storage and run rockbox well, which limits me to those two devices as far as I can tell) |
| 05:25:33 | bluefoxx | time to downgrade again. |
| 05:25:53 | Unhelpful | they're much *slower* hardware than S, though. |
| 05:26:49 | lee321987 | bluefoxx: Sansa c200v1? |
| 05:26:56 | bluefoxx | e200 |
| 05:27:15 | lee321987 | e200erase saved me once |
| 05:27:22 | hobbs | Unhelpful: didn't really consider that |
| 05:27:34 | bluefoxx | theres no chance in hell i'm wiping files off of my mp3 player... |
| 05:27:37 | lee321987 | (maybe it's "e200erasetool") |
| 05:27:52 | bluefoxx | resorting 6 gigs of music by hand out of 80 gigs takes far too long.. |
| 05:27:56 | hobbs | Unhelpful: (on the flipside the gigabeat runs that processor at 100% all the time as far as I can tell... I wish it throttled for better battery life :) |
| 05:27:57 | Unhelpful | it's not going to be a big issue for common audio formats. mpegplayer is quite pitiful on ipod video, though. |
| 05:28:47 | bluefoxx | ugh ugh ugh |
| 05:28:51 | Unhelpful | hobbs: it's trickier than that - merely changing the clock on the S CPU doesn't have much impact on power consumption, we need to use voltage scaling to get savings. |
| 05:28:55 | bluefoxx | no no no no thats NOT how that should work dammit... |
| 05:29:33 | hobbs | Unhelpful: understood. I've screwed with it enough to know it can be non-trivial. Just an "I wish" :) |
| 05:29:50 | hobbs | Unhelpful: (no, not on the gigabeat, on some PXA devices) |
| 05:30:42 | tmzt | what pxa targets? |
| 05:31:34 | hobbs | tmzt: Zaurus (clamshell type) |
| 05:31:50 | tmzt | oh, not a rockbox target |
| 05:31:53 | hobbs | no |
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| 05:32:55 | tmzt | bluefoxx: well my point was you should be able to flash the .mi4 but you want to ask someone else here about that and I can't remember who it was |
| 05:33:19 | bluefoxx | ugh ugh ugh |
| 05:33:28 | hobbs | anyway I guess I'll go for the S30. I see a few putatively new ones on ebay for affordable prices. Less than iPod 5Gs. :) |
| 05:33:53 | bluefoxx | next time i come in here asking something someone do me a favour and kick me with the reminder that every time i do do this, i completely fuck my sansa up... |
| 05:33:54 | lee321987 | bluefoxx: you do know I was talking about this −−- http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaC200Erase right? It was originally for the e200 (AND THE "e200" VERSION IS _DIFFERENT_ , but I don't know exactly where it is). |
| 05:34:39 | bluefoxx | ...yea, i don't erase data, ever. |
| 05:34:57 | bluefoxx | someplaces have a data destruction policy, i have a keeping data policy... |
| 05:35:15 | lee321987 | my c200 would only boot to manufacturing mode, and that tool worked. |
| 05:36:05 | lee321987 | tmzt: maybe it was gevaerts |
| 05:36:15 | tmzt | probably |
| 05:36:54 | lee321987 | his tool saved a $90 brick for me :) |
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| 05:40:21 | bluefoxx | ok, that solved that. rockbox 3.2 is broken for me, and 3.1 works fine. and that ancient version of kugel build also seems to work just as well, with all the features i liked but without the usb connect... |
| 05:40:25 | bluefoxx | blah, i need to run now.. |
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| 05:43:00 | lee321987 | last time −− please tell him if you see him: |
| 05:43:02 | lee321987 | gevaerts: DAP: c200v1 −−- r20981, computer to internal = 3.59MB/s −−−−−−−− r20992, computer to internal = 2.98MB/s |
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| 05:46:10 | Galois | Llorean: general instability, crashes. Much like what bluefoxx just described. Not consistently reproducible. I also have way too many things going on in my life with family to shepherd bug reports at this time, but that's it fwiw |
| 05:47:39 | Llorean | Well, don't expect it to improve if you can't be bothered to provide useful reports |
| 05:47:46 | Llorean | For what it's worth, I haven't seen Rockbox crash or freeze in months |
| 05:48:01 | Galois | I am in fact not expecting it to improve. It works fine. |
| 05:48:28 | Galois | I dont' even need the USB, as I usually transfer using the microsd card |
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| 05:51:37 | Llorean | Have you been using a remotely recent version? |
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| 05:52:02 | Galois | 20090422 build or something |
| 05:52:38 | Llorean | That's a date, not a revision |
| 05:52:50 | Llorean | It just tells what day it was compiled, could be any revision prior to that day |
| 05:53:58 | tmzt | is there some reason the svn revision is not in the about? |
| 05:54:31 | Llorean | tmzt: What "about"? |
| 05:54:34 | Llorean | It's in "rockbox info" |
| 05:54:40 | tmzt | oh, ok |
| 05:54:58 | Llorean | What "about" are you referring to? |
| 05:55:22 | tmzt | info |
| 05:55:30 | tmzt | about is what windows programs call it |
| 05:55:36 | tmzt | sorry |
| 05:55:38 | Galois | looks like r20774? |
| 05:56:05 | Llorean | tmzt: So why were you asking why it's not there if it is? |
| 05:56:46 | tmzt | I assumed if it was there Galois would have reported it, I assume wrong |
| 05:57:03 | Llorean | Please, try not to make any assumptions. |
| 05:57:07 | Llorean | It's a bad habit and leads to further contusion |
| 05:57:16 | tmzt | right |
| 05:57:44 | Galois | I don't normally navigate to the about screens, it's faster just to reboot the thing and look at the bottom of the screen |
| 05:57:50 | Galois | but anyway, dinner |
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| 08:03:31 | amiconn | Unhelpful: Coldfire MAC with load always loads 32 bit data. And it doesn't need to be aligned, as usual on coldfire, but it should be aligned for performance reasons. |
| 08:04:16 | Unhelpful | amiconn: hrm... i'm not sure it would be useful in the h-scaler, which will need to load (packed) bytes and zero-extend them |
| 08:04:44 | Unhelpful | the v-scaler is using the h-scaler's output, though, which is 32-bit and aligned, so that can use mac+load |
| 08:05:48 | amiconn | MAC with load only helps speeding up things under certain conditions |
| 08:06:19 | amiconn | MAC without load takes 1 cycle (apart from result latency of course), MAC with load takes 2 cycles |
| 08:06:46 | Unhelpful | ah. so it wouldn't be much help for, say, loading a value for the next MAC operation |
| 08:07:40 | amiconn | Well, it saves an instruction (but at the cost of an extension word, so it may not save binary size) |
| 08:07:52 | amiconn | It also helps saving registers (versus preloading) |
| 08:08:42 | Unhelpful | well, actually, i guess if i pre-zero some registers, i could use the MASK to load zero-extended bytes? |
| 08:09:11 | amiconn | In IRAM it's usually a good idea to use MAC with preload if possible. In DRAM it is faster to not use it if you can preload at least 16 bytes aligned to 16 bytes using movem.l |
| 08:10:11 | Unhelpful | movem is essentialy a streaming load operation? |
| 08:10:33 | amiconn | movem.l is the equivalent of arm's ldm/stm |
| 08:11:56 | amiconn | It's also the only instruction that issues line bursts (128 bit, 4 registers) for loading and storing with suitable alignment |
| 08:12:03 | Unhelpful | the vscalers could use movem if the loop were unrolled a bit. they basically perform the same operation on one after another of several rows of 32-bit ints |
| 08:12:36 | amiconn | Well, as mentioned it depends |
| 08:13:34 | Unhelpful | right... pulling 4 values from each of two scaler work lines would fill all of the data registers... |
| 08:14:28 | Unhelpful | here's the scaler patch i've been working on. the C math works nicely on my ARM devices, and times faster on them and on coldfire (i don't have benchmarks for SH1 yet). http://pastie.org/483767 |
| 08:16:18 | Unhelpful | sh1 could benefit from an inline 16x32->32 multiply in the horizontal scalers, if we're willing to assume downscaling is never to more than 1/257 of original size. that's the same assumption already used to do hardware multiplies with the current scaler code. |
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| 08:16:29 | amiconn | In IRAM the various burst modes don't matter. 4x MAC with preload are 8 cycles, versus 4x MAC + 1x movem.l +1 addition (for advancing the pointer) are 10 cycles |
| 08:16:39 | amiconn | But in DRAM, the latter is *much* faster |
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| 08:19:17 | Unhelpful | the scaler and jpeg decoder are pretty much always operating from DRAM, from what i can tell - the buffer where image temp data goes is DRAM, correct? and the jpeg DCT data block goes on stack, which also appears to be DRAM in the case of the audio thread, which does the album art loads. |
| 08:20:09 | amiconn | The question is whether it would be worth to put some things into IRAM |
| 08:21:45 | Unhelpful | i understand that to be a very limited resource on most of our targets... :/ |
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| 09:21:16 | n1s | hmm, there seems to be a bug with the dropdown menus on the new website, the menu disappears when i try to move the mouse down from the heading tio the menu about 7 out of 10 times |
| 09:21:26 | n1s | s/tio/to |
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| 09:22:16 | n1s | most visible when moving the pointer kind of slowly |
| 09:22:47 | n1s | oh and i think the "Home" button looks very much out-of-place |
| 09:23:05 | n1s | but overall i think it looks nice |
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| 09:24:15 | GodEater | n1s: which browser / OS combo ? |
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| 09:24:22 | GodEater | works fine for me |
| 09:24:27 | n1s | debian ff3.0 |
| 09:24:33 | n1s | eh iceweasel i mean |
| 09:24:54 | GodEater | any weird extensions ? |
| 09:25:16 | n1s | I'll try disabling them |
| 09:25:49 | Bagder | J-23: stop that please |
| 09:25:59 | J-23 | ok |
| 09:26:39 | n1s | GodEater: disabled the only 2 i have and it makes no difference |
| 09:27:24 | GodEater | curious - I've checked it on FF3.0 on windows and Ubuntu |
| 09:27:30 | GodEater | works every time =/ |
| 09:27:33 | GodEater | I wonder what the issue is |
| 09:27:36 | Zagor | n1s: I see it too. there's a thin line where neither the button or the menu is active, and hence the menu disappears |
| 09:28:00 | * | GodEater hovers his mouse over this line, and the menu fails to disappear |
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| 09:28:28 | Zagor | yeah it stays open with opera too. but the cursor changes from hand to arrow. |
| 09:28:36 | GodEater | same here |
| 09:29:00 | Zagor | GodEater: what os/browser? |
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| 09:29:14 | Zagor | ah, saw it |
| 09:29:17 | GodEater | currently FF3.0 and windows |
| 09:29:40 | GodEater | ah ok - it breaks in IE8 64 bit |
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| 09:30:28 | Zagor | it breaks in arora (webkit browser) too |
| 09:30:29 | GodEater | and the 32bit version |
| 09:30:48 | * | GodEater goes to grab safari too |
| 09:31:15 | Zagor | it doesn't really matter though, it breaks in enough mainstream browsers that it has to be fixed. |
| 09:31:49 | GodEater | yep |
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| 10:54:37 | webguest100 | there's no menu under fonts that says change font, or new font, OOOPS, i just found it under theme's my apologies |
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| 11:06:03 | PaulJam | Hi, i have a little problem with the album art mode of the sliding puzzle plugin: For most albums i have the albumart in cover.75x75.bmp (75x75), cover.bmp (176x176) and a <albumname>.jpeg with a high resolution. And it seems, that the sliding puzzle plugin tries to use the jpeg file which doesn't seem to fit in the plugin memory and so the album art mode isn't available. if i rename the jpeg, then everything works and it uses the cover.bmp file. do |
| 11:06:03 | PaulJam | es anyone know a solution that does not imvolve renaming/deleting the jpeg? |
| 11:07:54 | tmzt | that sounds like a bug, somebody has been working on the jpeg decoder recently |
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| 11:08:37 | tmzt | not sure if they intend there to be a fallback to another filename, but there has a been a discussion of what filenames to support |
| 11:08:43 | Unhelpful | the jpeg decoder is new. there's a function in pluginlib that will try to use the right loader for an image file, but sliding puzzle is not using it yet |
| 11:09:59 | PaulJam | so it tries to decode the jpeg with the bmp loader? |
| 11:10:43 | Unhelpful | precisely. this can probably be fixed quickly. falling back to search for another file if the first one can't load is a bit less likely to happen. |
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| 11:18:55 | Unhelpful | ugh, slightly less trivial, as sliding_puzzle currently uses a static buffer for image loads. that's probably just not going to work for jpeg :) |
| 11:24:56 | linuxstb | Unhelpful: At least for the targets with 512KB plugin buffers, that shouldn't be a problem - I can't see it needing that much RAM itself... |
| 11:25:41 | linuxstb | i.e. if it doesn't already use it for other things, you can get a pointer to the unused plugin buffer RAM, and use that. |
| 11:25:52 | Unhelpful | linuxstb: it's more a matter of it being less trivial than it was for pictureflow, which was already using the plugin buffer when it was adapted to bitmap scaling :) |
| 11:26:57 | linuxstb | It looks like sliding_puzzle doesn't call rb->plugin_get_buffer(), so you can do that - almost trivial. |
| 11:28:05 | Unhelpful | indeed, it's just a matter of changing the image buffer to a pointer, and adding a call... and also using read_image if the target has albumart. since sliding_puzzle doesn't use greylib, there's little point loading album art in it on mono targets. |
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| 11:32:53 | * | Unhelpful notices that sliding_puzzle.c is another of those evil plugins (which put an #ifdef around the entire plugin code) |
| 11:34:43 | pixelma | I guess that's because it's an old one (in the origin) before SOURCES and no-one bothered removing it as it shouldn't hurt |
| 11:36:31 | Unhelpful | pixelma: it doesn't, as long as it's managed correctly in SOURCES. when the loader-initialized API pointer went in i remember there being issues with some that could be built under certain circumstances, but have the plugin code #ifdef'd away |
| 11:37:09 | Unhelpful | i believe they stopped the build with link errors... this one didn't get changed then because it didn't cause trouble :) |
| 11:47:16 | CIA-38 | New commit by unhelpful (r20993): Support JPEG album art in sliding_puzzle. |
| 11:47:37 | Unhelpful | PaulJam: that should fix it, worked for me on ipodvideo sim |
| 11:48:16 | PaulJam | Thank you :) |
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| 13:15:12 | CIA-38 | New commit by funman (r20994): Sansa Fuze : fix r20680 for pong plugin (BUTTON_REPEAT can't be used) |
| 13:16:24 | Bagder | finally pong on the fuze! |
| 13:16:27 | Bagder | :-) |
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| 13:16:47 | funman | i think it'll only be ready for release once rockblox1d is working efficiently |
| 13:17:04 | Bagder | yeah, that's the most crucial part of rockbox |
| 13:17:25 | funman | perhaps that's why AMS people ignored us : pong not working :( |
| 13:17:50 | funman | more seriously, I plan to ping AMS again for the AS3531 datasheet when we'll have official builds for Sansa AMS |
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| 13:22:33 | CIA-38 | New commit by funman (r20995): Fix my mistake in r20987/FS #10219 : live update of Sansa AMS clock freqs (fix by Jack Halpin) |
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| 13:32:40 | funman | bertrik (for the logs): when using caches on the Sansa AMS, i2c fails at 400kHz because the "check if still busy" at the beginning of ascodec_read() & ascodec_write() fails : i2c is still busy. If I add 100 loops of 5 consecutive nops, i2c works fine. But I wonder if we couldn't just put a loop waiting for readiness, like at the exit of these 2 functions? |
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| 13:33:19 | funman | If I add 100 loops of 5 consecutive nops >>>just before the check for i2c business<<< |
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| 14:43:27 | CIA-38 | New commit by mcuelenaere (r20997): Speed up LCD driver on Ingenic Jz4740 by doing some sort of partial LCD updates. |
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| 17:07:54 | Strife89 | Could someone look and tell me if I have this right so far? http://pastebin.com/m3f8a37f5 |
| 17:08:27 | Strife89 | I don't want to make the entire table and then it be completely wrong. |
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| 17:11:09 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: Looks good so far, but here's an example of a table you can use to follow along with: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/manual/plugins/rockblox.tex?revision=20985&view=markup |
| 17:12:18 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: Alrighty, thanks. :) |
| 17:13:14 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: By the way, we're going camping this weekend, so if you haven't sent it yet, just wait 'till this Saturday. |
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| 17:15:17 | pixelma | you could at least close (end) the table, I think |
| 17:16:08 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: Ahh, didn't notice what pixelma mentioned. Close the table and it's good. |
| 17:17:08 | pixelma | and the button part should be capitalised I think (in the beginning there is\ buttonLeft etc., should be \ButtonLeft |
| 17:17:16 | pixelma | ) |
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| 17:19:20 | pixelma | Strife89: have a look at the keypad-something.tex files under manual/platform to know exactly (it's also called ButtonRec I believe, not ButtonRecord) |
| 17:19:38 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: Yes, that's correct. |
| 17:19:56 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: So far so good, but make those revisions that pixelma pointed out. |
| 17:20:04 | pixelma | Strife89: keymap, not keypad |
| 17:20:11 | wpyh | saratoga: I'm not sure how I should test the Fuze. there seems to be 2 versions, your version and funman's version |
| 17:21:46 | saratoga | wpyh: i didn't really understand funman's changes so I'm not sure |
| 17:21:58 | saratoga | you could just try both and see if either gives the expect values when reading from the disk |
| 17:23:46 | pixelma | Strife89: but a good start and the explanantion you have in the patch is also important. If you want to help the possible committer a bit, make sure the lines aren't (much) longer than 80 characters - and add the new rockpaint.tex to manual/plugins/main.tex (which works a bit like SOURCES in the rest of the code) |
| 17:24:44 | CIA-38 | New commit by gevaerts (r20998): It's no longer possible to switch to charge-only mode by pressing a button, so remove that bit from the manual |
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| 17:25:50 | wpyh | well, your version yielded the correct results, and funman's version too (I've tried with 7964671 and 7964672) |
| 17:26:57 | wpyh | however, if I go ahead and make some more changes funman suggested (use wordbuf instead of buf2 to display the result), I get garbage |
| 17:27:20 | saratoga | mine gives the correct result on an 8GB fuze? |
| 17:27:26 | wpyh | yes |
| 17:27:39 | wpyh | the one with 8026112 gives the correct result |
| 17:29:50 | saratoga | can you post your patch? |
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| 17:31:16 | wpyh | well, I'm using this: http://www.duke.edu/~mgg6/rockbox/diskcheck.patch |
| 17:31:30 | wpyh | (that's the one you posted on the forum) |
| 17:31:41 | saratoga | yes but you said you made changes that broke it |
| 17:32:40 | wpyh | I always get DIR:0 and DIR4:1 |
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| 17:33:53 | wpyh | ah, that part |
| 17:33:56 | wpyh | I changed |
| 17:33:58 | wpyh | + _DEBUG_PRINTF("DIR0: %x DIR4: %x", *(buf2+512), *(buf2+512+4)); |
| 17:34:00 | wpyh | to |
| 17:34:02 | wpyh | + int *wordbuf = (int*) buf2; |
| 17:34:02 | saratoga | yes the part i don't already have |
| 17:34:04 | wpyh | + _DEBUG_PRINTF("DIR0: %x DIR4: %x", wordbuf[512/4 - 1], wordbuf[512/4]); |
| 17:34:06 | wpyh | per funman's suggestion, and I get garbage for DIR0 and DIR4 |
| 17:38:38 | wpyh | well, the code is actually on the forum... |
| 17:39:26 | * | wpyh doesn't understand what saratoga needs |
| 17:39:39 | saratoga | a patch so i can see if you're doing this correctly |
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| 17:40:30 | wpyh | ah, ok |
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| 17:49:53 | wpyh | good patch: http://pastebin.com/m3d59ce01 |
| 17:49:53 | wpyh | bad patch: http://pastebin.com/m8243b60 |
| 17:52:54 | Strife89 | Okay, I've got several keymaps in, and I've converted it to a patch. http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10202 |
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| 17:53:25 | Ricky26 | Sooo |
| 17:53:34 | Strife89 | I'm still working on it, I just figured I'd post it so that if I made a big mistake, it can be noticed before I finish. |
| 17:53:42 | Ricky26 | Anyone in here know which settings the Zen V needs in IDA Pro? :P |
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| 17:57:20 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: Only one thing: some of the lines are rather long, longer than 80 characters, even. |
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| 17:57:47 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: So, shorter descriptions? |
| 17:57:56 | Strife89 | Or split lines? |
| 17:58:02 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: Split some lines. |
| 17:58:12 | LambdaCalculus37 | Try not to make them longer than 80 characters if you can. |
| 17:58:23 | Strife89 | Will do. :) |
| 17:58:31 | LambdaCalculus37 | Cool. :) |
| 17:58:41 | LambdaCalculus37 | Post a new patch once you're done. |
| 17:59:33 | Strife89 | Alright. :) |
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| 18:02:02 | Strife89 | Is it okay if several lines are a few more than 80 chars (85 maximum)? |
| 18:07:25 | linuxstb | Strife89: Just don't draw attention to them. Oops... |
| 18:07:59 | * | Strife89 just sticks with a strict 80-char-per-line limit. |
| 18:08:05 | Strife89 | Just to be safe. |
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| 18:12:00 | Ricky26 | Yay, I now have a Zen V with a .png instead of firmware. :D |
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| 18:21:46 | Strife89 | FS #10202 has been updated. All keymaps are in. http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10202 |
| 18:23:19 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: Did you test to see if the manual builds correctly with it? |
| 18:23:25 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: Not yet... |
| 18:23:46 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: If it does, I'll commit it later on when I have net access on my MacBook. |
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| 18:24:27 | Strife89 | I forget how to build a manual. |
| 18:24:53 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: Hang on, let me find the page for that. |
| 18:25:09 | Strife89 | I know I need to get some LaTex packages, but I don't know their names. >.< |
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| 18:25:56 | LambdaCalculus37 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualHowto |
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| 18:26:14 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: Alright, I'll read up and report back. |
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| 18:27:29 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: If you're using Linux currently, just install the needed packages on that page (the tetex-* sets), and you'll be set. |
| 18:27:42 | Strife89 | I have a lot in packages to get, so this'll be a while. |
| 18:27:54 | Strife89 | My download speed is 100 KB/s. |
| 18:28:02 | LambdaCalculus37 | No worries, we'll be here. :) |
| 18:28:36 | * | Strife89 gets some lunch while he waits. |
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| 18:57:20 | CIA-38 | New commit by gevaerts (r20999): Don't force double-buffering for sd devices. They apparently are not faster with it, ans possibly actually slower |
| 18:57:54 | mt | linuxstb : Apparently it's better to modify the test program first. :) |
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| 19:00:29 | mt | But I'm still thinking about how I'd approach this. Currently, I think I'll write get_uint* which are similiar to read_uint* in all but 2 aspects : 1. They'll take in a memory buffer. 2. They will not entail copying of data. |
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| 19:02:53 | mt | And they'll have to take a "pointer to the pointer to the memory buffer. " to be able to advance the pointer with the amount of the data read. |
| 19:03:45 | mt | What do you think ? |
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| 19:07:03 | gevaerts | do those things read 1 int at a time? If so, is copying a pointer less expensive than copying the value? |
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| 19:17:59 | mt | gevaerts : no .. there would be get_uint8, get_uint16be and get_uint32be |
| 19:18:49 | * | gevaerts should probably shut up if he doesn't know what's being talked about :) |
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| 19:19:14 | steiny | hello |
| 19:19:39 | steiny | Is there a known issue with iPod 3Gs and rockbox 3.2 and up? I have weird bahviour :/ |
| 19:21:53 | gevaerts | what sort of issue? |
| 19:22:52 | steiny | the keys seem to behave odd |
| 19:23:15 | steiny | for instance. I have to touch the forward key up to 6 times till it enters a menu and the central select button does absolutly nothing anywhere |
| 19:23:31 | steiny | mind you, it works in apples original firmware ... all buttons act on first touch, including select |
| 19:23:58 | steiny | with one oddity: since rockbox is on it, apples firmware starts a new song every time I hit select to navigate its menus .... very odd |
| 19:24:09 | gevaerts | I haven't heard of anything like this |
| 19:24:22 | steiny | yes, I feel quite lonely with that issue :) |
| 19:24:36 | steiny | I assume select should enter me into a rockbox menu, not the foreard button |
| 19:24:37 | * | gevaerts isn't an ipod specialist, so he probably doesn't know all known issues with them |
| 19:25:09 | steiny | i soon also get a H120 .... I thought of RB there, but now I'm reluctant .. the H120 is much more valuable to me than this 3g |
| 19:25:09 | gevaerts | yes, it's select |
| 19:25:33 | AlexP | steiny: To see what the buttons should do, you can have a peak at the manual. Having said that, select seems sensible here :) |
| 19:25:51 | amiconn | Both buttons will enter a menu item /submenu |
| 19:25:53 | AlexP | steiny: I have had Rockbox on a H140 for years with no issues |
| 19:25:58 | steiny | alexp: yeas I .. er ... "read" it (overflown is maybe more true ... I admit) :) |
| 19:26:32 | steiny | something is clearly b0rken, though |
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| 19:27:08 | AlexP | steiny: Part of the problem may be that next to nobody has a 3G |
| 19:27:34 | steiny | well ... it is old, yep :( |
| 19:27:59 | gevaerts | old isn't the problem :) |
| 19:28:02 | LambdaCalculus37 | steiny: It's not really a matter of being old. |
| 19:28:06 | * | LambdaCalculus37 is too slow ;) |
| 19:28:19 | AlexP | I just mean that with very few users it doesn't get much testing, and with very few devs with one it is harder to fix any problems that may come up |
| 19:28:20 | LambdaCalculus37 | steiny: It's just that very few developers or staff have one. |
| 19:28:44 | steiny | ah ... bummer |
| 19:28:49 | steiny | how about the H120? |
| 19:28:56 | AlexP | steiny: For instance nobody has reported this fault before, and if no devs have a 3G (or a 3G with this problem) then it is very hard to fix |
| 19:29:01 | gevaerts | e.g. the Archos Player is a lot older, but nearly everyone has it, so it works well :) |
| 19:29:03 | AlexP | steiny: Lots more have those |
| 19:29:13 | AlexP | As they are much better :) |
| 19:29:28 | LambdaCalculus37 | AlexP: They are *the* player to have. :) |
| 19:29:33 | steiny | hm ... I'd be heartbroken if the H120 gets killed with some bootloader issue ... I went to trouble to get hold of one recently |
| 19:29:45 | steiny | s/to/through |
| 19:29:55 | AlexP | steiny: If you use a released bootloader, then it should be absolutely fine |
| 19:30:00 | gevaerts | if you stick to the official released bootloader, you shouldn't have any problem |
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| 19:30:19 | steiny | okies ... I'm not planning on the CFlash bootloader and all .... yet .... I'm scared of a nonbooting iriver |
| 19:30:29 | AlexP | There hasn't been a single broken H100 when using the released version to my knowledge |
| 19:30:58 | steiny | neat to know |
| 19:31:20 | steiny | it's so sad nobody makes players with the H100 series soundwuality AND optical out anymore |
| 19:31:25 | AlexP | On most targets you can recover easily from bootloader issues - because the H100 and H300 can be bricked with a bad one, any released ones undergo *a lot* of testing by people with specialist recovery equipment before release |
| 19:31:55 | steiny | good :) |
| 19:32:08 | steiny | I kow people hoarding dozesns of H100's ... it's so hard to get one |
| 19:32:38 | steiny | I won mine on ebay, because I never do ebay and I was not realizing a bid has a confirm ... |
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| 19:32:47 | steiny | I frantically hit confirm and made it in 2 seconds before the end .... |
| 19:32:58 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 19:33:28 | steiny | if I have to do that again, I'll die from heart attack |
| 19:33:49 | AlexP | hehe - I think a H100 is worth it :) |
| 19:34:06 | steiny | got it for 110 US dolalrs .... I hear that's not a bad price |
| 19:34:16 | gevaerts | that's an excellent price |
| 19:34:34 | steiny | it supposedly mint, only 2 days used and all accessoires included |
| 19:34:48 | steiny | I'll see if that is true or not in a few days |
| 19:34:50 | AlexP | They usually go for loads more than that |
| 19:35:01 | steiny | I'm worried about its battery tho, if nobody used it |
| 19:35:09 | AlexP | They die anyway |
| 19:35:15 | AlexP | But replacements are fairly easy |
| 19:35:35 | AlexP | You can put an ipod 1G/2G in it, but you need to switch the leads |
| 19:35:36 | steiny | well I was prepared to shell out up to 220 USD ... i was surprised nobody bid along ... maybe cause of my bid confirm sillyness |
| 19:36:01 | steiny | yep I saw 2200 one son ebay ... but I'll opt for a non bad one .. those all get balloney |
| 19:36:07 | steiny | non-bag |
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| 19:36:22 | AlexP | Buy a named brand like Cameron Sino |
| 19:36:29 | steiny | intedn to, yes |
| 19:36:43 | steiny | already got me a usb/charge cable from boxwave as well |
| 19:36:58 | steiny | even tried hunting for the 40 GB toshiba, but that seems pointless |
| 19:36:58 | AlexP | I have a 2200 mAh battery in my H140 and last time I tested the runtime (a long time ago) it was still going after 29 hours when I turned it off (under Rockbox of course) |
| 19:37:20 | steiny | with a harddrive or CF? |
| 19:37:27 | AlexP | hard drive |
| 19:37:30 | steiny | nice |
| 19:38:37 | steiny | in theory I don't need RB i guess ... i do VBR mp3 ... I tried flac, mp3, wav comparisons at high bitrates .. I cant hear the diff in rap and trance etc :) |
| 19:38:54 | steiny | not even by optical feed into the iBasso D10 and beyerdynamic DT880s |
| 19:38:58 | steiny | maybe I'm deaf |
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| 19:39:21 | evilnick_7 | It's also very nice to make dynamic on-the-go playlists |
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| 19:39:40 | gevaerts | well, the iriver firmware doesn't have doom |
| 19:39:50 | steiny | mmh with my bugged ipod 3g, I could not create them ... bad keyboard |
| 19:39:56 | steiny | hm |
| 19:39:58 | AlexP | steiny: There is much more to it than extra sound formats |
| 19:39:58 | steiny | well |
| 19:40:06 | steiny | after crysis warhead on a gtx 285 |
| 19:40:07 | steiny | doom |
| 19:40:08 | steiny | well |
| 19:40:21 | AlexP | I would never use the H100 OF now - it would drive me mental |
| 19:40:28 | steiny | alexp: I know ... I'm happy to explore that :) |
| 19:40:45 | steiny | original H100 is not very intuitive I hear |
| 19:41:20 | steiny | a nice EQ would be nice ... as far as I know, RB has it |
| 19:41:26 | steiny | not sure about original H100 |
| 19:41:31 | * | evilnick_7 bought an H140 purely for Rockbox and hasn't used the OF much if ever. Maybe to flash to Rockbox right at the start! |
| 19:42:09 | AlexP | I had mine before Rockbox was ready for it - the start up time alone was a killer |
| 19:42:27 | AlexP | steiny: Yes, Rockbox has a five band parametric equaliser |
| 19:42:34 | steiny | neat |
| 19:43:08 | steiny | and I noticed it doesn't automatically jump to a next file it seems ... all purely playlist based? |
| 19:43:35 | LambdaCalculus37 | steiny: If you would like to donate your iPod 3rd gen to a developer, you're more than welcome to. Just don't expect results right away. |
| 19:43:46 | LambdaCalculus37 | Things like Rockbox take time to make perfect. ;) |
| 19:43:56 | evilnick_7 | It will create a playlist out of the files in the current directory, and then play through that. |
| 19:44:27 | steiny | lambda: once I have my H120 I would not even mind ... as long as I get it back functional in some way :) I have sentimental value with it |
| 19:44:34 | steiny | er it has S V to me |
| 19:44:50 | steiny | ev: ah okay |
| 19:45:04 | evilnick_7 | I assume that you want this for recording? |
| 19:45:18 | steiny | can you create playlists for it on the PC? I mean ist standard format and USB HD and all ... but how about the relational filepaths? |
| 19:45:32 | steiny | ev: The H120? |
| 19:45:40 | evilnick_7 | Yes, it uses standard m3u8 files |
| 19:45:41 | Strife89 | Making seems to have failed. http://pastebin.com/m5f9a8070 |
| 19:46:08 | evilnick_7 | And also will strip away one "directory level" at a time if it can't find the music file as specified in the m3u8 |
| 19:46:12 | LambdaCalculus37 | steiny: Then if it's something sentimental to you, then I suggest not donating it. Donated players are usually taken for things like hardware scans and such, and as a result may not come back intact. |
| 19:46:28 | steiny | lambda: eeww |
| 19:47:08 | evilnick_7 | So that; E:/Music/Beatles/Sgt Peppers/A day in the life.mp3 if it didn't exist on the target... |
| 19:47:11 | AlexP | steiny: I'd really suggest reading the manual - it tells you all about what Rockbox can do |
| 19:47:40 | evilnick_7 | ...Rockbox would look for Music/Beatles/Sgt Peppers/A day in the life.mp3 and then Beatles/Sgt Peppers/A day in the life.mp3 etc. |
| 19:47:45 | steiny | AlexP: I know, you're right ... :) |
| 19:48:07 | steiny | ev: I see, thanks |
| 19:48:26 | steiny | recording I wont do ... I wasn't even aware before that the H1x= can |
| 19:48:38 | steiny | I use it for optical out into the iBasso D10 |
| 19:48:39 | evilnick_7 | Why do you specifically want that model then? |
| 19:48:48 | evilnick_7 | Aha, optical out! I see |
| 19:48:56 | steiny | jup |
| 19:49:30 | steiny | http://www.sys-concept.com/U-toslink_miniplug/d1n.jpg |
| 19:49:32 | evilnick_7 | But if you can't tell the difference between mp3 and flac, is it worth having the optical output? |
| 19:49:50 | steiny | that'lll exactly be my setup, even the same cable ... apart from the picture showing a D1, not a D10 |
| 19:50:04 | steiny | evil: I think so ... it seems to sound crisper |
| 19:50:14 | steiny | even for noisy sound like trance, rock etc |
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| 19:50:43 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: Looking at the PDF, it seems to have built correctly. |
| 19:51:11 | steiny | are some of you RB devs btw? |
| 19:51:19 | evilnick_7 | I'm all for hi-fi sound, but I don't quite understand why you'd be more interested in using optical-out (for the benefit) than lossless. |
| 19:51:57 | steiny | evil: I only tried trance so far ... I'll have to review various loreena mckennit things as ell, I expect more diff there |
| 19:52:01 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: Can you email it to me? |
| 19:52:08 | steiny | evil: and: part of it is pure geek value of kmnowing to own the optimum :) |
| 19:52:17 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: Sure, just a sec. |
| 19:52:52 | evilnick_7 | :) I hear you, but it might be a lot cheaper to go lossless |
| 19:52:53 | steiny | i'm not audiphile, but I do like a solid setup |
| 19:53:21 | steiny | I already own all these things ... too late for cheap :) |
| 19:53:23 | AlexP | steiny: Yes, many people in the channel are |
| 19:53:33 | steiny | alexp: are you? |
| 19:54:30 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: Sent. |
| 19:54:41 | AlexP | steiny: Only as far as documentation and support goes |
| 19:54:44 | steiny | evil: I liek all the comparing, hunting, checking, owning bits of all this technostuff .... so ... :) |
| 19:55:16 | steiny | ah you are not worth my attention then, I only let true devs bathe in the light of my presence :) |
| 19:55:16 | evilnick_7 | steiny: Looks like we're drifting off-topic for this room |
| 19:55:38 | steiny | but to be serious: Thanks a lot for that product ... it's great fun (apart from my odd 3g issues) |
| 19:56:10 | steiny | oh excuse me, I wasn't intending to interrupt compiler talk |
| 19:57:02 | evilnick_7 | steiny: This channel is logged (specifically for developers) |
| 19:57:03 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: Checking it out now. |
| 19:57:33 | steiny | ev: IC .. I wasn't aware there were several RB channels, sorry .... got sent here by some forum :/ |
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| 19:58:59 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: It built correctly, save for the warning regarding no screenshot. |
| 19:59:09 | LambdaCalculus37 | And it looks good, to boot. ;) |
| 19:59:16 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: :) |
| 19:59:17 | gevaerts | steiny: support talk is welcome here, but lots of people read the logs, so having lots of random chat makes them lose time. Also, if you want to highlight someone, use the full nick |
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| 20:00:02 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: Do you want to finish it off with some screenshots? |
| 20:00:13 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: I'll try. |
| 20:00:20 | Strife89 | It'll take a while... |
| 20:00:30 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: No worries. Take your time. |
| 20:00:57 | steiny | gevaerts: Okies, I'll try to cut down the babble :) |
| 20:01:01 | LambdaCalculus37 | Attach them to the FS entry for your patch and I can commit the entire lot. |
| 20:01:42 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: Attached as images or a single patch. |
| 20:01:43 | Strife89 | ? |
| 20:02:22 | AlexP | Strife89: They need to be the images (but if you zip them it'll be quicker to download) |
| 20:02:45 | AlexP | Strife89: Then the person committing it has to svn add them and set as binary - you can't do that in a patch |
| 20:02:59 | Strife89 | AlexP: Oh, okay then. |
| 20:03:23 | * | Strife89 looks for the list of sims. |
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| 20:08:32 | FlynDice | bertrik:ping |
| 20:08:42 | bertrik | hi FlynDice |
| 20:08:49 | FlynDice | hi there |
| 20:09:39 | FlynDice | I remember you were talking about running the ams sansa's below 200 MHz for lower voltage |
| 20:10:19 | FlynDice | and I've got a 192 max freq running right now. How much of an advantage can we get. do you know? |
| 20:11:04 | FlynDice | and what would be the best way to test any ideas |
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| 20:12:50 | bertrik | FlynDice, I think we can reduce processor current to about square(lower voltage / original voltage) of the original current |
| 20:13:19 | bertrik | I didn't mean we _should_ do that, just pointing out that we could |
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| 20:14:49 | FlynDice | I'm just trying to look at the tradeoff. The performance seems just fine at 192 and I remember you mentioning the square of the voltage was the power savng factor |
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| 20:16:56 | kugel | I think we should look into reducing voltage for unboosted states, not for boosted |
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| 20:18:28 | FlynDice | kugel: So you think we should adjust the voltage on the fly? |
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| 20:19:24 | FlynDice | kugel: or I guess dynamically might be the right term? |
| 20:19:47 | kugel | if that's possible, yes |
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| 20:21:47 | FlynDice | kugel: Do you think we could make just make the change at the same point we reduce the frequency to unboosted? |
| 20:24:05 | kugel | yes |
| 20:24:11 | kugel | but probably with a little delay |
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| 20:31:00 | Jaykay | what si songdbj ? |
| 20:31:06 | Jaykay | s/si/is |
| 20:34:06 | Horscht | iirc, it's a tool for PC that can build a rockbox tagcache/database |
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| 20:35:21 | ricky26 | Hrrm, anyone have much experience with hacking the Zen V? |
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| 20:39:21 | Jaykay | and why is songdbj still in the rockbox repository? |
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| 20:50:20 | AlexP | Jaykay: Why shouldn't it be? |
| 20:51:05 | Jaykay | it's obviously not used since two years |
| 20:51:21 | Jaykay | s/used/changed |
| 20:51:38 | AlexP | So why should it be removed? |
| 20:52:32 | Jaykay | why should it stay there? |
| 20:52:36 | AlexP | Even if it is currently a little out of date, surely it is good to have there so someone can fix it up if they want? |
| 20:53:15 | AlexP | Jaykay: Why do you want to remove stuff for the sake of it when it is useful? |
| 20:54:52 | Jaykay | i can't say whether it's useful or not, but when most people don't know what it is and it wasn't edited in the last two years, i would say it's not useful |
| 20:55:19 | Jaykay | i just asked why it's there. if it helps you leave it there |
| 20:55:45 | AlexP | Jaykay: I suspect most developers do know what it is for |
| 20:56:00 | AlexP | And just because something hasn't changed in two years means nothing |
| 20:56:27 | AlexP | It might just mean that it works well and hasn't needed updating |
| 20:57:20 | Jaykay | what does it do exactly? |
| 20:57:34 | AlexP | [20:36:01] <Horscht> iirc, it's a tool for PC that can build a rockbox tagcache/database |
| 20:57:52 | Horscht | There's a FS patch that makes it compile and work... |
| 20:58:25 | Horscht | FS #9371 |
| 20:58:29 | scorche | Jaykay: typically things are left (as in rarely removed) in code repositories to satisfy GPL requirements and such as well |
| 20:58:33 | bertrik | Horscht, where can I find this tool? I found songdb.pl but that is a script |
| 20:58:41 | Unhelpful | amiconn: if i understand how it works correctly, a loop like the one at bottom of scale_v_linear might be a good candidate for using movem on coldfire. |
| 20:58:56 | Horscht | bertrik, i am about to compile it on windows |
| 20:59:36 | Jaykay | AlexP: thanks... how does it help? |
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| 21:00:08 | AlexP | Jaykay: What do you mean? |
| 21:00:30 | AlexP | It lets you build the RB database using your PC |
| 21:00:36 | AlexP | Therefore it is much faster |
| 21:01:01 | bertrik | meh, this thing is all over the rockbox source code |
| 21:01:17 | Jaykay | ah ok, i didn't understand the first explanation |
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| 21:01:51 | Unhelpful | get rowinc and two copies of rowval into address registers, along with an end address, then movem into 4 data registers from rowinc and rowval, do the four additions, movem the results back to rowval (via the second copy of the rowval address), with movem doing all the address increments for us as well |
| 21:02:55 | bertrik | Horscht, does it replace the songdb script? (does that one work actually)? |
| 21:03:37 | Horscht | I don't know if the script works. The songdb.exe works fine, though (the current one I have) |
| 21:04:04 | Horscht | I am about to build a new one, though |
| 21:09:05 | bertrik | Horscht, so currently the songdbj tool does not work and the patch makes it work, do I understand correctly? |
| 21:10:01 | Horscht | hm... i might be confusing something... I can't find songdbj |
| 21:10:55 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: Okay, I just sent you an e-mail with the screenshots. |
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| 21:12:32 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: Thanks. I hate to be a pain, though, but can you also attach them to your Flyspray ticket as well? |
| 21:12:47 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: Not a problem. :) |
| 21:13:10 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: I've been under the impression that _I'm_ the pain, with all the stuff I ask..... |
| 21:14:15 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: Done. :) |
| 21:14:23 | Horscht | bertrik, all I can find is tools/songdb.pl and tools/database/. The database tool does not work, but FS9371 creates a /utils/songdb/ which is doing the same job as /tools/databse/, except it actualy works ;) |
| 21:14:28 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: Nah, we give special exceptions to the Padawans. :) |
| 21:16:03 | Unhelpful | LambdaCalculus37: did you have any luck with those benchmark plugins? they failed to work properly for gevaerts on x5 until i sent him a full build :/ |
| 21:16:27 | LambdaCalculus37 | Unhelpful: They didn't work for me, either. |
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| 21:17:49 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: I think it's safe to say that your patch is ready to commit. Did you build the manual one last time to check that everything's in order? |
| 21:18:14 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: Sure, lemme do that real quick.... |
| 21:18:30 | jpros | I want to put the rockbox firm in my pmp |
| 21:18:39 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: I'll SVN-add my own screenshots first, so hang on. |
| 21:18:44 | LambdaCalculus37 | Okay. |
| 21:18:49 | pixelma | Strife89: what was the FS# again |
| 21:18:49 | jpros | it's a sunplus slide pmp |
| 21:18:52 | jpros | with arm9 |
| 21:18:58 | Strife89 | pixelma: 10202 |
| 21:18:58 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: FS #10202. |
| 21:19:06 | jpros | someone know if it is possible? |
| 21:19:21 | LambdaCalculus37 | Only players that are listed on the front page will work with Rockbox. |
| 21:19:37 | jpros | hmm |
| 21:19:48 | jpros | it's hard to modify for my pmp?? |
| 21:20:14 | jpros | really I need to make or modify a firmware that have a holly bible |
| 21:20:20 | pixelma | Strife89: you could combine all the \ButtonUp etc. in one \opt |
| 21:20:26 | jpros | I'm from brazil, so sorry for my english |
| 21:20:30 | martian67 | whats major and new since 3.2 besides jpg album art support? |
| 21:20:32 | pixelma | when it's the same |
| 21:20:45 | martian67 | and usb stacks on portal player |
| 21:21:26 | jpros | LambdaCalculus37? |
| 21:22:18 | LambdaCalculus37 | jrpos: I suggest you start by reading http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort |
| 21:22:26 | jpros | LambdaCalculus37 tks :D |
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| 21:23:14 | pixelma | Strife89, LambdaCalculus37: and CREATIVEZVM_PAD and the like don't exist for the manual yet - it won't break the manuals now since the opt is never true, but might prove a pain if someone decides to name it slightly different later on |
| 21:23:55 | Strife89 | pixelma: "The like" means the Philips? |
| 21:23:58 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: I'll remove CREATIVEZVM_PAD before it gets committed, then. |
| 21:24:09 | Strife89 | I was using the names provided in the plugin. |
| 21:24:34 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: Don't worry about it, I'll make one last patch. |
| 21:24:53 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: No, that's good that you followed along with it, but pixelma's right... the ZVM and GoGears have no manuals yet, so attempting to add those will break things. |
| 21:25:55 | pixelma | also the Fuze |
| 21:25:56 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: You know the manual layout a little better than I do... is Strife89 pointing to the right location for screenshots? |
| 21:26:18 | LambdaCalculus37 | Because IIRC it should point to manual/plugins/images |
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| 21:27:06 | pixelma | "Opening A File" and the other subheadlines need to be subsubsections, otherwise they'll show up as own "plugins" |
| 21:27:31 | Strife89 | pixelma: So how would I type that? |
| 21:27:52 | pixelma | \subsubsection instead of \subsection |
| 21:28:02 | pixelma | the rest is the same |
| 21:28:17 | Strife89 | Done. |
| 21:28:30 | Strife89 | Anything else that needs doing? :) |
| 21:29:17 | pixelma | the tools could be itemized (would have to look myself for a reference, I guess rockboy could have something like it) |
| 21:29:22 | Horscht | world peace... |
| 21:31:24 | Strife89 | pixelma: I'll try that and see how it looks. |
| 21:31:26 | pixelma | Strife89: as I said already, some opts could be combined but that would just make reading of the code easier - should already work as is |
| 21:32:35 | pixelma | otherwise it looks good :) I would only test-compile a few manuals |
| 21:32:42 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: Once you've got the code cleaned up, post a new patch. |
| 21:32:57 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: Will do. |
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| 21:33:10 | Strife89 | pixelma: I went ahead and did that. :) |
| 21:33:11 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: He test compiled a Sansa c200 manual for me which looked good, apart from the missing screenshots. |
| 21:33:25 | pixelma | oh, just saw one more - maybe the "Be careful" bit could be a note or a warning |
| 21:33:35 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: Thanks for the assistance in going over the code. :) |
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| 21:34:50 | ricky26 | bugger |
| 21:35:02 | ricky26 | Is there a hard reset on the Zen V anywhere? |
| 21:35:09 | Strife89 | pixelma: I hate to bug, but how do I make it a warning? |
| 21:35:28 | pixelma | the reference to the screenshot looks alright and the naming of the files too |
| 21:37:03 | ricky26 | feck |
| 21:37:05 | AlexP | Strife89: \warn{This is a warning} |
| 21:37:07 | ricky26 | bye bye little screw. |
| 21:37:08 | pixelma | Strife89: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LatexGuidelines#Warnings |
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| 21:38:54 | Strife89 | AlexP: What if I need to split it into two lines? |
| 21:39:05 | Strife89 | The wiki doesn't address it.... |
| 21:39:09 | AlexP | \warn{This is a |
| 21:39:12 | AlexP | warning} |
| 21:39:21 | Strife89 | AlexP: Okay, just checking. :) |
| 21:39:39 | AlexP | always best :) |
| 21:40:39 | pixelma | LambdaCalculus37: I always test compile a few different ones there can be differences (and usually I build all it applies to and one which it doesn't to see if the exclusion works - but that's me ;) ) |
| 21:41:19 | AlexP | I always do a selection of those included and excluded by any opts used |
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| 21:42:26 | Strife89 | Okay, making a test c200 manual. |
| 21:42:56 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: Screenshots in manual/plugins/images ? |
| 21:43:05 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: Yes, locally. |
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| 21:43:12 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: Okay. |
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| 21:44:32 | Strife89 | Hmm, that doesn't look right at all. |
| 21:45:56 | pixelma | if you tell what... |
| 21:46:25 | Strife89 | Hang on, I'm trying something. |
| 21:46:46 | Unhelpful | LambdaCalculus37: if you don't mind, i put up a full build for ajbrv1 at http://looking-glass.us/~chshrcat/rockbox/ajbrv1_scaler_benchmark_full.zip |
| 21:47:43 | Strife89 | pixelma: Basically the objects I "\item"ized are showing up scrunched together right before the keymaps. |
| 21:48:06 | Strife89 | On one line. |
| 21:49:27 | pixelma | the line looks like e.g.: \item[Color Picker] The N... |
| 21:49:39 | pixelma | maybe you missed the ] there |
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| 21:50:11 | Strife89 | pixelma: No, but I did move the descriptions to their own lines. |
| 21:50:56 | pixelma | that shouldn't be a problem |
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| 21:52:16 | Strife89 | pixelma: In my terminal is says: "! LaTeX Error: Lonely \item−−perhaps a missing list environment." |
| 21:52:53 | pixelma | if I see correctly in some other plugin tex, \item seems to need being within a \begin{description} - your items - \end{description} |
| 21:54:01 | pixelma | the LatexGuideline page confirms |
| 21:54:10 | Strife89 | Okay, trying again. |
| 21:55:31 | Strife89 | There! That worked. :) |
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| 21:56:04 | * | Strife89 makes another manual. |
| 21:57:55 | Strife89 | An iPod Video manual appears to have built correctly. |
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| 21:59:35 | Strife89 | As does a Gigabeat manual. |
| 21:59:51 | Horscht | yay? |
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| 22:01:44 | mcuelenaere | Unhelpful: does pictureflow use the LCD driver's YUV blit function? |
| 22:01:58 | Strife89 | FS #10202 updated: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10202 |
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| 22:03:24 | Unhelpful | mcuelenaere: no, it does all of the YUV->RGB during cache build, the cache entries are just bitmap data with a header for the dimensions and the axes transposed (to suit pictureflow's column-oriented renderer) |
| 22:03:34 | Strife89 | pixelma: By the way, I've been liking the keymap patch. :) |
| 22:04:29 | mcuelenaere | Unhelpful: and these YUV->RGB transformations, do they use lcd_blit_yuv()? |
| 22:04:37 | mcuelenaere | never mind |
| 22:04:42 | mcuelenaere | stupid question :) |
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| 22:05:08 | mcuelenaere | I'm having some pictureflow image distortion |
| 22:05:12 | Unhelpful | a jpeg viewer *might* be a good candidate for that. |
| 22:05:39 | Unhelpful | hrm. i have to go for a bit, but if you can get a description or a screenshot, i can take a look. :) |
| 22:06:56 | mcuelenaere | Unhelpful: http://imagebin.ca/img/JKUuU3A.bmp |
| 22:07:07 | mcuelenaere | and the jpeg viewer shows the images just fine |
| 22:07:12 | pixelma | Strife89: only one thing now - the \ButtonUp and \ButtonDown without an \opt at all look weird |
| 22:07:22 | mcuelenaere | (this is on MIPS target) |
| 22:07:40 | Strife89 | pixelma: In what way? |
| 22:07:44 | pixelma | I know it usually works for Left and Right as all keymap files have it |
| 22:08:13 | mcuelenaere | original image: http://imagebin.ca/img/o72wkD.jpg |
| 22:08:20 | Strife89 | pixelma: What should I do, then? |
| 22:08:34 | Unhelpful | ok, i'll try to take a look at it later |
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| 22:09:07 | pixelma | Strife89: in e.g. the Ipod manuals \ButtonUp (if that even exists) and \ButttonMenu would appear |
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| 22:09:52 | Strife89 | pixelma: So "\opt{\ButtonUp}"? |
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| 22:10:40 | pixelma | you could put it in a looong opt, listing all the targets it applies to - or in a \nopt with the Ipod pad and the H10 pad which you specify below with different buttons |
| 22:12:37 | Strife89 | pixelma: One line or two, to keep with the 80-character thing? |
| 22:13:09 | pixelma | e.g. \nopt{IPOD_4G_PAD,IPOD_3G_PAD,IPOD_1G2G_PAD,IRIVER_H10_PAD}{\ButtonDown} |
| 22:13:57 | * | Strife89 went with the \opt option. |
| 22:14:32 | pixelma | breaking the list inside the \opt{} is a bit tricky |
| 22:15:19 | Strife89 | pixelma: With the \nopt , what does the \ButtonUp need to be? |
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| 22:17:03 | pixelma | the same - \nopt means excluding what's specified there. In your case everything that has its own \opt below |
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| 22:17:33 | * | Strife89 is unsure. |
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| 22:18:01 | pixelma | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LatexGuidelines#Include_Exclude_sections |
| 22:18:03 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: How's it coming along? |
| 22:18:08 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: Almost there. |
| 22:18:27 | * | LambdaCalculus37 prepares to add |
| 22:18:37 | Strife89 | pixelma: Ah, I get it now. |
| 22:20:15 | Ricky26 | Anyone have the files from http://linux.sigmatel.com/, linked in the wiki? |
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| 22:21:04 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37, pixelma: Updated. |
| 22:23:14 | pixelma | sorry to be nitpicking but there still seem to be some references to keypads, the manual doesn't know about yet (Fuze, D2, Onda) |
| 22:23:48 | pixelma | M:robe500 |
| 22:24:31 | Strife89 | pixelma: And the keymap table didn't build... |
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| 22:26:50 | Strife89 | "Underfull \hbox (badness 10000) in paragraph at lines 106−−110. Misplaced alignment tab character &." |
| 22:28:33 | AlexP | Strife89: `There are always loads of thise warnings |
| 22:28:38 | AlexP | *those |
| 22:28:52 | AlexP | Which is unfortunate as it makes spotting real warnings very hard |
| 22:29:15 | Jaykay | btw what do these warnings mean/is there a way to eliminate them? |
| 22:29:28 | Jaykay | underfull/overfull hbox |
| 22:29:32 | Strife89 | I just built another iPod manual and the keymap table is gone. |
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| 22:29:44 | AlexP | What is your opt/nopt? |
| 22:30:18 | mcuelenaere | Ricky26: what exactly do you want to know regarding the Zen V? |
| 22:30:28 | Strife89 | AlexP: http://pastebin.com/m221d393a |
| 22:31:42 | Ricky26 | mcuelenaere: I want to write firmware for it. Just digging information at the moment. |
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| 22:32:43 | Ricky26 | I need to know how to get from code into a format that the rockbox tools can deal with. I have an arm toolchain set up, I have sendfirm, which works with the stock fw. |
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| 22:33:28 | AlexP | Strife89: Does it work for a different target? |
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| 22:33:41 | mcuelenaere | Ricky26: do you have any docs/information regarding the chipset? |
| 22:34:04 | Ricky26 | They are the specs floating around on the Wiki. |
| 22:34:07 | Ricky26 | there* |
| 22:34:11 | Strife89 | AlexP: Lemme build a Gigabeat manual... |
| 22:34:24 | Spoonman | anyone here can help me with button mapping in recording screen for ipods? |
| 22:34:41 | Unhelpful | mcuelenaere: which target is this? |
| 22:35:00 | AlexP | Spoonman: For button mapping you want apps/keymaps/keymap-xxx.c |
| 22:35:03 | mcuelenaere | Unhelpful: Onda VX747 |
| 22:35:09 | Strife89 | AlexP: Nope, key table's gone for that target too. |
| 22:35:26 | AlexP | Strife89: Could you pastebin the section? |
| 22:36:04 | Strife89 | AlexP: http://pastebin.com/m46308393 |
| 22:36:06 | pixelma | Strife89: the \begin{btnmap}{}{} seems to got lost |
| 22:36:40 | AlexP | Strife89: yes - what pixelma said |
| 22:36:40 | mcuelenaere | Ricky26: I don't think there's much information except for the linux tarball regarding the STMP36XX chipset available.. |
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| 22:37:03 | pixelma | Strife89: also... there are evil tabs in your code ;) |
| 22:37:06 | Unhelpful | anything weird i should know about the target? i see it's RGB565, which is the only color format PF knows about. the scaler uses some 32x32->64 unsigned multiplies, but i wouldn't expect gcc to compile that to anything that doesn't do what the math says... |
| 22:37:19 | mcuelenaere | and IIRC linuxstb has a mirror of linux.sigmatel.com? |
| 22:37:29 | mcuelenaere | Unhelpful: it's MIPS |
| 22:37:31 | Strife89 | pixelma: So, eliminate all tabs? |
| 22:37:35 | AlexP | Spoonman: If you look in apps/keymaps/keymap-ipod.c you will see a section starting "const struct button_mapping button_context_recscreen[] = {" - under that are the keymaps |
| 22:37:43 | AlexP | Strife89: Yes, it should be spaces only |
| 22:37:56 | pixelma | Strife89: replace by spaces (usually 4) |
| 22:38:13 | AlexP | Spoonman: Keymap for the recording screen that is |
| 22:38:35 | Unhelpful | yuv_to_rgb uses ints for some 0-255 values that get shifted left by 7, but that shouldn't be a problem even if int is 16-bit |
| 22:39:02 | mcuelenaere | int is 32-bit on this MIPS CPU |
| 22:39:13 | Spoonman | sorry, but i am not a programmer, so i want to ask if someone can do a change for me... |
| 22:39:33 | mcuelenaere | Unhelpful: are these functions shared among other things? (core jpeg decoder?) |
| 22:39:48 | Unhelpful | i'm just trying to think of any way some value might overflow and wrap, or flip its sign bit, etc. |
| 22:39:55 | Strife89 | AlexP, pixelma, LambdaCalculus37: Okay, changes made, making a test manual. |
| 22:40:04 | AlexP | Spoonman: What change? Also, the keymaps are not so bad to do |
| 22:40:19 | mcuelenaere | Unhelpful: the GCC version used for MIPS is 4.x.x, perhaps that matters? |
| 22:40:23 | linuxstb | Spoonman: Can you compile Rockbox yourself? |
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| 22:40:38 | mcuelenaere | 4.1.2 |
| 22:40:38 | Spoonman | yes, but to set upa build environment and such things.... |
| 22:41:31 | AlexP | Spoonman: What are you wanting to change and why? |
| 22:41:38 | Spoonman | the change should be to map record split from long play/pause wich is not really useable to long select... |
| 22:41:41 | Unhelpful | mcuelenaere: the core jpeg decoder is used by pictureflow, but pictureflow uses a custom output format. if the cover appears correct in WPS, the first place i'd look is output_row_32_transposed_fromyuv in apps/plugins/pictureflow/pictureflow.c |
| 22:41:57 | AlexP | Spoonman: Long select looks to be used to go to the menu |
| 22:41:58 | Strife89 | AlexP, pixelma, LambdaCalculus37: It works. I'll upload the patch one last time.... |
| 22:42:17 | Spoonman | because long play/pause effectively stops the recording |
| 22:42:24 | * | mcuelenaere looks up the WPS syntax |
| 22:42:29 | AlexP | Short select seems unused |
| 22:42:39 | Spoonman | eaven better... |
| 22:42:40 | linuxstb | Spoonman: That sounds like a bug, rather than something you should just change for yourself... |
| 22:42:45 | Strife89 | FS #10202 updated. http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10202 |
| 22:43:01 | Spoonman | i filed a bugreport : http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10207?project=1&type=2&order=dateopened&sort=desc |
| 22:43:09 | AlexP | It looks like short press of play is pause and long play is split |
| 22:43:19 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: I'll check it out. |
| 22:43:39 | linuxstb | AlexP: Short select is probably "OK" - inherited from the standard context. |
| 22:43:48 | linuxstb | But I don't know if that's used... |
| 22:43:56 | AlexP | linuxstb: ah right |
| 22:43:56 | pixelma | AlexP: long play (slightly differently) is also stop and that's the problem |
| 22:44:05 | AlexP | pixelma: yep |
| 22:44:07 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: Oops, I just noticed the iPod is missing one keymap.... |
| 22:44:17 | linuxstb | AlexP: But no, it doesn't seem to be... |
| 22:44:22 | Spoonman | ok, i gonatest this, give me aminute |
| 22:44:27 | Unhelpful | mcuelenaere: if you don't have a WPS with AA, you could also just try the test_core_jpeg plugin by adding it to SOURCES and trying to load a JPEG file with it. |
| 22:44:35 | mcuelenaere | Unhelpful: cover art works fine |
| 22:44:38 | AlexP | linuxstb: No, so short select would seem to be sensible for split |
| 22:44:43 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: Quick, add the fix! :) |
| 22:44:44 | pixelma | short select is a bit dangerous though if long select is used to go to the menu |
| 22:45:01 | AlexP | pixelma: Are there any other options? |
| 22:45:20 | Strife89 | Ummm... "#define ROCKPAINT_QUIT ( ~BUTTON_MAIN )" |
| 22:45:41 | Strife89 | I have no idea how to notate that in the manual.... |
| 22:45:47 | pixelma | I don't know - I just remember thinking stuff like that for the c200 map :\ |
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| 22:46:15 | Spoonman | actually long select does nothing at least on my nano |
| 22:46:28 | AlexP | How do you get to the menu? |
| 22:46:53 | linuxstb | "menu" ? |
| 22:46:53 | * | Strife89 types "ButtonMain". |
| 22:46:57 | pixelma | ah... I think you can't |
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| 22:47:23 | * | linuxstb is very confused with the recording screen keymap... |
| 22:47:25 | AlexP | linuxstb: recording settings menu |
| 22:47:57 | * | pixelma remembers talking about Ipod recording screen keymap issues with linuxstb when filling out button tables for the manual... quite some time ago |
| 22:48:06 | Spoonman | it seems that now i cant get back to the menu at all, but i was able to do this before... |
| 22:48:14 | linuxstb | pixelma: Was I confused then as well? |
| 22:48:34 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: I have no idea what the key for exiting Rockpaint is on the iPods... |
| 22:48:35 | pixelma | I think so |
| 22:48:38 | mcuelenaere | tomers: are you here? |
| 22:48:47 | AlexP | it is /me is confused too |
| 22:48:57 | Spoonman | ok, now it worked by short pressing menu |
| 22:49:00 | tomers | mcuelenaere: Yes, I'm here |
| 22:49:22 | AlexP | Spoonman: Did that not just quit back to the Rockbox menu? |
| 22:49:34 | mcuelenaere | tomers: I never got USB HID working without commenting out the if(active || ..) line in usb_hid.c, do you know why this could be? |
| 22:49:39 | Strife89 | Would it be "ButtonHold"? |
| 22:49:42 | Spoonman | ok, on a long press of select u get to recording menue |
| 22:49:53 | AlexP | Spoonman: I meant (and I was very unclear, sorry about that) the recording settings menu |
| 22:50:03 | Spoonman | sorry, i was mistaken... |
| 22:50:05 | mcuelenaere | sorry if(!active || ..) |
| 22:50:06 | pixelma | Strife89: my *guess* is that you can't quit directly with a button press on them, just through the menu |
| 22:50:09 | tomers | mcuelenaere: I'll check it out |
| 22:50:17 | AlexP | Spoonman: So does short select do anything? |
| 22:50:44 | Strife89 | Oy, I wonder how I should put that in.... |
| 22:50:47 | mcuelenaere | I verified that it's the !active part of the expression that makes the function return, but I don't see why it's set to false.. |
| 22:50:56 | Spoonman | but while recording u get nowhere with select |
| 22:51:04 | mcuelenaere | s/why it's/why active is/ |
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| 22:51:25 | pixelma | linuxstb: I think I was confused when looking at it too (for the c200). IIRC there were two buttons to start recording (the "split" does it as well) or somesuch |
| 22:53:05 | mcuelenaere | tomers: also do you perhaps know what could cause a HID command get sent infinitly repeated? (this is probably due to my recent USB driver-rework) |
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| 22:53:13 | tomers | mcuelenaere: Is USB HID driver gets enabled in usb_thread() (firmware/usb.c:298) ? If not, I wonder how it is that you can use it... Maybe it is not needed... |
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| 22:53:16 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: The code says ( ~BUTTON_MAIN )... I have no idea what button that is. |
| 22:53:51 | Strife89 | Can I just \nopt the "Quits the program" text? |
| 22:53:53 | tomers | mcuelenaere: How do you sniff the USB traffic, or maybe you just see the key presses go crazy? |
| 22:53:54 | tomers | mcuelenaere: How do you sniff the USB traffic, or maybe you just see the key presses go crazy? |
| 22:54:18 | mcuelenaere | tomers: it is enabled on usb.c:298 |
| 22:54:43 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: Yeah, might as well. |
| 22:54:57 | mcuelenaere | tomers: I haven't sniffed the USB traffic yet when it does this, but I see the volume going up to 100% while it didn't do that before (I can sniff it using usbmon+wireshark) |
| 22:54:59 | tomers | The the active variable should be set by usb_hid_init() or usb_hid_init_connections() |
| 22:55:00 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: Testing a build, |
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| 22:55:31 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: That works fine, making a patch. |
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| 22:56:14 | mcuelenaere | tomers: they are set (I can see it in the logf debug menu) |
| 22:56:43 | mcuelenaere | this is really weird, the only thing I can imagine that could cause this is memory corruption |
| 22:56:48 | Strife89 | FS #10202 updated. http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10202 |
| 22:57:02 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: Alright, I think it's ready. :) |
| 22:57:10 | mcuelenaere | or a memset/memcpy gone wrong |
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| 22:58:01 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: Is it up? |
| 22:58:11 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: Yep. |
| 22:58:17 | Strife89 | Patch version 9. |
| 22:58:20 | tomers | mcuelenaere: The 'active' variable can only be unset by usb_hid_disconnect... Since this is a very simple code, I guess you are right :-( What is the USB driver you use? I'll take a look on it tomorrow |
| 22:58:43 | Unhelpful | mcuelenaere: i have to get read for work here. i'll try to put together a viewer for pfraw files, that should tell us whether the cache images are wrong, or if the problem is in the renderer. |
| 22:58:45 | Spoonman | AlexP do you think we can map it to select since it seems to do nothing during recording? |
| 22:58:48 | mcuelenaere | tomers: firmware/target/mips/ingenic_jz47xx/usb-jz4740.c |
| 22:58:49 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: I didn't post version 8. ;) |
| 22:59:21 | mcuelenaere | Unhelpful: perhaps I should clear the cache and try again? |
| 22:59:25 | AlexP | Spoonman: Possible - I'm a bit confused about the recording screen mappings |
| 22:59:37 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: Okay, let me svn add on my end and test a manual build. |
| 22:59:53 | Unhelpful | mcuelenaere: it might be worth trying, but the format of the cache files hasn't changed since well before JPEG. |
| 22:59:53 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: Alright. |
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| 23:00:02 | tomers | mcuelenaere: Have you reviewed my code? Maybe it is there somewhere |
| 23:00:13 | Spoonman | i think they are from recording enhancement pack and made it into the build |
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| 23:00:38 | tomers | mcuelenaere: Have to go. Good night! |
| 23:00:43 | AlexP | Strife89: Maybe the .bmp should be in a \fname |
| 23:01:09 | AlexP | Strife89: Also, the manual uses UK English - Color should be Colour etc |
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| 23:02:22 | AlexP | Strife89: "+Draws and unfilled circle. |
| 23:02:41 | AlexP | I suspect the "and" should be an "an" |
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| 23:02:49 | LambdaCalculus37 | AlexP: I'll fix it up a little bit. |
| 23:02:59 | * | LambdaCalculus37 already is svn add'ing the files to his trunk |
| 23:03:01 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: I got it. :) |
| 23:03:04 | LambdaCalculus37 | Okay. :) |
| 23:03:15 | Spoonman | maybe we could do a test build or something? |
| 23:03:49 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: Posted. |
| 23:03:50 | AlexP | Strife89: Why is "+Click on a color in the image to change the Foreground color to it." Foreground in capitals? |
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| 23:03:56 | mcuelenaere | Unhelpful: what else except .rockbox/rocks/pictureflow/* do I need to delete to trigger a pictureflow cache rebuild? |
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| 23:04:30 | AlexP | Strife89: All the other "color" need changing to "colour" too |
| 23:04:33 | Strife89 | AlexP: it should be lowercase. |
| 23:04:39 | Strife89 | AlexP: Done that. |
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| 23:04:53 | AlexP | Strife89: Not in v10 you haven't |
| 23:05:04 | Strife89 | AlexP: Whoops.... |
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| 23:05:26 | pixelma | Strife89: if you don't include the \\ in the \nopt, the Ipod manuals will get a blank line at the end - but I admit I had weird breakage once when trying to \nopt the last line of a table. Worth a try though |
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| 23:06:30 | AlexP | Spoonman: That is an option |
| 23:06:51 | AlexP | Strife89: I'll wait for v11 before looking further :) |
| 23:07:00 | Strife89 | pixelma: So take out the \\ ? |
| 23:07:08 | Spoonman | ok, could you do the build and sendme per email? |
| 23:07:17 | AlexP | Not right now |
| 23:07:43 | pixelma | Strife89: no, put them before the } so after "immediately." |
| 23:07:48 | Spoonman | no prob, when do you think you can? |
| 23:07:55 | AlexP | Spoonman: Maybe later - if you want it sooner you could set up a build environment :) |
| 23:08:11 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: There's also a lot of weird unexpected breaks all over the patch for rockpaint.tex; you may want to check your line endings to make sure they're Unix. |
| 23:08:20 | Strife89 | pixelma: And leave the existing ones? |
| 23:08:52 | Spoonman | i dont have stress, it just should be done somewhen... my mail adress is g.steinwender@gmx.at |
| 23:09:05 | Strife89 | LambdaCalculus37: I'll check with Notepad ++. |
| 23:09:59 | CIA-38 | New commit by kugel (r21000): Sansa AMS: Centralise mapping of RAM and IRAM in as3525.h via #defines. This will hopefully make ongoing mmu work easier as less places need to be ... |
| 23:12:48 | Spoonman | ok, so i´m off now, and be back when i have tested and tell you my results... bye... |
| 23:12:54 | pixelma | Strife89: hmm... the IPOD_1G2G_PAD isn't currently needed as the 1st and 2nd gen Ipods are greyscale but I think you can leave it there |
| 23:14:08 | mt | linuxstb : Did you see my messages ? (sent about 3 hours ago). |
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| 23:16:06 | linuxstb | mt: Yes. What code are you talking about? The "librm" parser for use in the codec? |
| 23:16:36 | mt | No, the test program. I'll modify that first. :) |
| 23:17:31 | linuxstb | But only part of that needs to use the codec API - the rest will be in core Rockbox, and you'll be reading from a file descriptior. |
| 23:18:05 | Strife89 | AlexP, pixelma, LambdaCalculus37: That blank line is still there in the iPod manuals. |
| 23:18:06 | linuxstb | If possible, you should try and avoid duplication - e.g. read the header and cook extradata in the metadata parser, so the codec parser just needs to parse the actual data packets. |
| 23:18:13 | pixelma | Strife89: and about your question - don't leave the old ones. \\ mark a newline- if you exclude what's on the line it would be nicer if the newline was excluded too |
| 23:19:08 | pixelma | grr... putting them inside seems to break building for me |
| 23:20:11 | mt | linuxstb : 1. Can I fill an instance of RMContext in the metadata parser and send it to cook.c ?, and 2. "You'll be reading from a file descriptor." You mean in cook.c or librm ? |
| 23:20:36 | Strife89 | pixelma: It didn't seem to work.... |
| 23:21:46 | Strife89 | FS #10202 updated. http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10202 |
| 23:21:52 | Strife89 | Revision 11. |
| 23:22:48 | AlexP | Strife89: If you are going to have one .bmp inside \fname you ought to have them all :) |
| 23:22:59 | AlexP | Strife89: Also, I imagine \fname{.bmp}s ends up looking odd |
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| 23:23:38 | AlexP | Strife89: Maybe swap that for empty images or empty bitmaps? |
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| 23:24:39 | AlexP | Strife89: What does "The NW-most tool" mean? |
| 23:25:07 | AlexP | Strife89: "+the foreground of the Colour Picker to the selected color. |
| 23:25:09 | Strife89 | AlexP: NW=top left |
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| 23:25:19 | AlexP | There is still a color on that line |
| 23:25:45 | * | Strife89 needs to stop and go eat...... |
| 23:25:49 | AlexP | Strife89: That is not very clear - I didn't get NW to mean top left. I think it clearer to say top left |
| 23:25:56 | pixelma | Strife89: you would have to remove the last two \ after the } - but it breaks building of an Ipod Video manual for me. Trying some things |
| 23:26:46 | Strife89 | AlexP, pixelma, LambdaCalculus37: I need to take a break and eat... |
| 23:26:53 | linuxstb | mt: 1) No, but you can store some extra data in the "id3" struct. The wma codec does this (it uses the toc field, which is otherwise only used for mp3 files) 2) Neither - the get_metadata() function is in core Rockbox - apps/metadata/ |
| 23:26:58 | AlexP | Strife89: Virtually all the "colours" are still "color" - I suggest doing a search as each time you seem to change one or two and leave the rest :) |
| 23:29:23 | mt | linuxstb : So in modifying the test program, all I actually have to modify is how the audio packets are copied. (I could read the DATA chunk offset into the id3 struct and then advance_buffer(data_offset)). |
| 23:30:27 | * | pixelma feels a bit bad about all this nitpicking, Strife89 already did quite a lot of work ... |
| 23:30:48 | AlexP | Indeed, but it is best to put it in correctly :) |
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| 23:33:55 | * | LambdaCalculus37 has to go too |
| 23:34:10 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89 (for the logs): Let me know when you have the final version of the patch up. |
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| 23:36:22 | pixelma | what? calling the rockpaint menu on c200 is supposed to be on a combo of Select+Power to have the direct quit on a short press of Power |
| 23:36:46 | * | pixelma would have to take the blame for that one, probably |
| 23:37:37 | pixelma | it's not mentioned correctly in the manual patch though |
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| 23:39:28 | pixelma | there are other not so nice things in the keymaps themselves, e.g. the "Toolbar2" won't work on the X5 and M5 |
| 23:39:38 | pixelma | err... X5 only currently |
| 23:42:06 | pixelma | speaking of which - the IAUDIO_X5M5_PAD is still called IAUDIO_X5_PAD in the manual, so those opts will have no effect |
| 23:42:08 | linuxstb | mt: Yes, that should work. |
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