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00:08:03 | Res1 | A really nice feature for rockbox would be the ability to use it as a USB soundcard |
00:08:15 | Res1 | Probably not feasible |
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00:08:47 | krazykit | it is on software-usb devices, but what's the point? your computer's DAC is likely better than the DAP |
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00:09:41 | Res1 | Yes, but still useful in a pinch |
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00:12:17 | jouke | Hi all, Rockbox thinks my new iPod mini battery is empty when the default firmware thinks it's 50% |
00:12:36 | jouke | can I force Rockbox to recalibrate? |
00:12:36 | Mikachu | krazykit: if you don't have any sound card at all it could be useful, or if you get crap in your laptop line-out or something maybe? :) |
00:12:57 | jouke | it's a replacement battery with 700 (real) mAh |
00:13:12 | Mikachu | i think there's a setting for how big your battery is somewhere |
00:13:28 | Mikachu | but i also think it's only used for time remaining estamates, not % left calculations |
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00:21:14 | soap | correct, Mikachu |
00:22:44 | soap | jouke, I can tell you rockbox is displaying a battery percentage based upon the voltage of the battery, and the known maximum and minimum voltage levels for your battery chemistry. What Apple is doing I can not say - but the /percentage/ displayed by Rockbox should be pretty accurate. |
00:23:15 | jouke | okay, since the battery is quite new I will try some more charges |
00:23:42 | jouke | the ipod firmware could play for a couple of hours more |
00:23:57 | jouke | so perhaps the discharge characteristics are different from standard |
00:25:44 | soap | if you battery's discharge curve had, for example, plateaus in it - I would expect Rockbox to keep on ticking and the percentage displayed would simply plateau as well. Is Rockbox shutting down on you "prematurely"? |
00:30:12 | Mikachu | if he can play music for hours after i'd say yes |
00:30:49 | jouke | yes, Rockbox shuts down with a battery symbol |
00:31:19 | jouke | but, again, this is only my first cycle |
00:31:20 | soap | and if you reboot into Apple firmware immediately after you can continue to play? |
00:31:27 | jouke | yes, that is correct |
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00:32:10 | Res1 | hm, yes, disk mode is seemingly unstable on my ipod |
00:32:51 | soap | which version of Rockbox are you seeing this unstableness on, Res1? |
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00:33:16 | Mikachu | the feature i would want is a "safe to unplug" screen |
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00:34:26 | Res1 | I installed the latest current, version r21151-090531 |
00:34:50 | soap | and what instability in the disk mode are you seeing? |
00:35:07 | bertrik | Mikachu, that should be doable technically |
00:35:49 | Mikachu | i have a hotkey for unmounting the ipod, but it doesn't have any feedback, so i'm always paranoid and look in the logs that it's unmounted, so it doesn't really save any time ;) |
00:36:08 | bertrik | but it's usually the host that tells you it's safe, right? |
00:36:46 | Mikachu | yeah, but if i run it from a hotkey i don't get anything |
00:38:02 | Unhelpful | there could be safety issues even after unmount, if data has not been flushed. unmount *and sync* is safe. |
00:40:04 | Mikachu | i usually use eject |
00:40:22 | bertrik | IIRC, there is a start/stop SCSI command, if the host sent this I think we can assume it's safe |
00:40:41 | bertrik | I'm not sure whether all major OSs send this command |
00:40:43 | Mikachu | that seems to be what the apple firmware does, if i just umount, it still shows the stop sign, but after eject it says safe to unplug |
00:41:01 | Mikachu | if i umount, i can mount again, but after eject i have to reseat the usb cable |
00:41:16 | Mikachu | (still with apple firmware) |
00:41:39 | Mikachu | the same is true for rockbox actually, except it doesn't show anything on screen |
00:41:47 | Mikachu | if i eject, the partition devices disappear |
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00:44:40 | bertrik | I guess an umount does not send the start/stop unit SCSI command yet, but eject does |
00:44:57 | bertrik | I think it's best to ask gevaerts when he's back online |
00:45:03 | Mikachu | yes, it would be very annoying if umount did |
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00:48:01 | Mikachu | ah, gevaerts did the usb stuff? |
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01:13:07 | Res1 | huh |
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01:44:58 | Freeman | hello |
01:45:04 | Freeman | anyone alive here :) |
01:45:13 | Freeman | ? |
01:49:19 | Freeman | ok, anyway i have the following question |
01:49:34 | Freeman | its probably a lame one ... |
01:49:50 | tmzt | just ask your question |
01:50:17 | Freeman | how can i compile Sansa Fuze boot file |
01:50:46 | tmzt | read the instructions, install the cross compiler, build from svn |
01:50:55 | tmzt | ask specfic questions if needed |
01:50:59 | Freeman | i have done that |
01:51:06 | Freeman | the specific question is |
01:51:22 | Freeman | how to install the bootloader |
01:51:41 | tmzt | you have already made one with mkamsboot? |
01:51:53 | Freeman | thats just the thing |
01:51:56 | tmzt | what filename did it create |
01:52:02 | Freeman | i have the original firmware |
01:52:14 | Freeman | but how shall i get the second file |
01:52:17 | Freeman | ? |
01:52:29 | tmzt | ./configure |
01:52:35 | tmzt | select fuze and bootloader |
01:52:50 | tmzt | make |
01:52:58 | tmzt | I haven't done this in a while though |
01:53:40 | saratoga | Freeman: if the second file is the rockbox bootloader, you compile it from the rockbox source code |
01:54:48 | Freeman | yes, thats exactly the second file |
01:55:23 | Freeman | thanks a lot for the help, I will read some more and try to make it |
01:55:31 | Freeman | :) |
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02:06:24 | Freeman | in the mkamsboot README |
02:06:36 | Freeman | says that I shall scramble |
02:06:48 | Freeman | the rockbox bootfile |
02:07:17 | Freeman | any idea which options |
02:07:19 | tmzt | it compresses the OF bootloader and add the rockbox bootloader to it |
02:07:27 | Freeman | shall i use |
02:07:31 | tmzt | so it can boot both |
02:07:36 | Freeman | ahaaa |
02:08:00 | tmzt | you need the OF bootloader which it will check to make sure is valid |
02:08:05 | tmzt | and the rockbox bootloader |
02:08:13 | tmzt | run mkamsboot and follow the directions |
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02:31:15 | Freeman | yeah :D |
02:31:35 | Freeman | fist sound from my Fuze running Rockbox |
02:31:37 | Freeman | !!! |
02:33:42 | Freeman | great job guys ! |
02:34:21 | Freeman | I will try it out and report ;-) |
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03:19:32 | Emobathtub | Hello! is anyone here? |
03:20:28 | Emobathtub | I have a question and google cannot answer it |
03:22:10 | saratoga | ask it |
03:22:42 | Emobathtub | I can't seem to get the "Recently Added" option in the database to work. I have a sansa e250R |
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03:27:27 | Emobathtub | Ah, but silly me to think you'd answer. Good night. |
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03:40:35 | AndrewRB | hey, could anybody help me figure out what I am doing wrong with patch? |
03:42:03 | AndrewRB | fresh svn checkout, i'm in the rockbox directory... "patch < patchfile" always says can't find file to patch |
03:42:17 | Mikachu | try -p0 or -p1 (before the <) |
03:42:25 | AndrewRB | nope |
03:42:33 | Mikachu | look in the patch file what path it has for the file |
03:42:33 | AndrewRB | i'm in the root dir. that doesnt work |
03:42:57 | AndrewRB | whenever i copy/paste the path which it prints out (from the patch file), it works. |
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03:43:30 | AndrewRB | hold on, let me explain better. |
03:45:09 | AndrewRB | http://pastebin.com/m1047a12a |
03:45:22 | AndrewRB | that shows me trying to apply a patch which I just created. |
03:45:41 | Mikachu | i notice you're not using -p0 there |
03:45:50 | AndrewRB | ok |
03:46:32 | AndrewRB | ah. ok now i feel really stupid. i could have sword i tried that after reading the man page. |
03:46:40 | Mikachu | or after i asked you to? |
03:46:53 | AndrewRB | i disregarded that as i was dead-certain i had tried it |
03:46:55 | AndrewRB | (sorry) |
03:47:10 | Mikachu | okay, i'll remember to tell you to do things twice in the future :) |
03:47:21 | AndrewRB | haha |
03:47:44 | AndrewRB | twice makes me doubt myself ;-) |
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04:09:14 | AndrewRB | could anybody suggest a reason for changing this line in the D2's button-target.h file: |
04:09:19 | AndrewRB | #define BUTTON_MAIN 0x3FFF |
04:09:21 | AndrewRB | becomes |
04:09:22 | AndrewRB | #define BUTTON_MAIN 0xFFFF |
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04:42:03 | AndrewRB | no idea? or did I just ask a stupid question (again ><) |
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04:51:12 | onlysoaa | Hello all, anyone got a clue if/how I can build Rockbox as a sim for Windows Mobile? |
04:52:49 | evilnick_home | I don't *think* you can, but I'm not positive |
04:53:27 | Unhelpful | if you have SDL for windows mobile, it might be possible. i doubt it will happen without some work, though. i don't think anybody's tried, really. |
04:53:54 | onlysoaa | I read something obscure about cegcc; apparently someone tried before but didn't follow up. |
04:54:34 | onlysoaa | See, I have two devices, and I'd like Rockbox on one of them. One is my HTC Touch Diamond that runs WinMo, and the other is a Samsung P2. |
04:55:13 | onlysoaa | Some might remember me fail-attempting to port it to the P2 before. I just lack experience with porting apps, but I'm willing to learn. |
04:56:04 | onlysoaa | I figure it's probably easier to port it to the P2 since the Cowon D2 uses the same SoC and firmware format... I have no clue where to start though, as I've never coded drivers before. |
04:57:45 | onlysoaa | Would anyone be willing to explain to a casual hacker how the an LCD driver for Rockbox would work? |
04:58:26 | krazykit | it seems like reading the code would be the most obvious place to start |
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05:00:49 | kugel | onlysoaa: IIRC, the D2 Rockbox binary runs on the P2 without modifications |
05:01:02 | onlysoaa | I've tried before. ;) But with little success. It was like a totally foerign language, although I guess another go can't hurt. |
05:01:34 | kugel | however, the lcd driver needs some adjusting, as it's pretty much hardcoded for the D2's resolution |
05:01:39 | onlysoaa | kugel: Whoa, what? Does it? o_o I guess I'll give it a go and see what works and what doesn't. |
05:02:05 | onlysoaa | I'd also need to reimplement a touch driver of course. The P2 uses a capacitance screen. |
05:02:26 | onlysoaa | Well thanks for the notice. *takes the leap* |
05:02:43 | kugel | onlysoaa: please read this forum thread: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=15267.30 |
05:03:08 | kugel | at the end, I posted a link to the IRC logs where I was talking with the guy that just tried to run the D2's rockbox version |
05:03:47 | kugel | However, in either case, even the D2 Rockbox is unsupport and very premature. That of course applies to the P2 too |
05:04:58 | onlysoaa | Cool, thanks. I see there's no current build for the D2 either. |
05:05:19 | kugel | No, you'll need to compile it yourself |
05:05:53 | onlysoaa | Alrighty. Thankfully I already know how. :P |
05:06:15 | kugel | Please post your findings to that forum thread, I think with some effort the P2 port can step up to the D2 port quite quickly |
05:07:07 | onlysoaa | Whoa, isn't that asking a bit too much? :P I guess I'll contribute in whatever way I can, but I don't think I'll be able to go much farther than where the D2 port is at. |
05:15:01 | kugel | onlysoaa: no, I just asked to post your findings to the forum thread |
05:15:23 | kugel | the 2nd sentence was just a general statement from my point of view |
05:15:42 | onlysoaa | Ohh. For sure I'll post my findings. |
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05:21:10 | Unhelpful | are our htole macros pretty fast? i assume they translate to machine swap instructions where possible? |
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06:02:17 | Unhelpful | i'm planning to word-align and zero-pad the strings so that i can just use hashw, which is smaller/faster, but i figured the byte-array variants might be useful as well. |
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08:36:33 | bertrik | the as3525 has two timers which already seem to be used (TIMER1 as a general timer and TIMER2 to call the tick tasks) |
08:37:02 | bertrik | it would be convenient to have a timer to generate delays on the order of microseconds that are independent of the CPU clock |
08:37:48 | bertrik | the as3525 also has a programmable watchdog timer, how about using that for a delay generation timer? |
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09:12:17 | lucent | bertrik: I figured out that adding a mci_delay() makes my 8gb uSD card work on boot for fuze 8gb v1 |
09:13:59 | bertrik | lucent, cool, I'm not very familiar with that part of the code (better discuss with funman when he's back on irc) |
09:15:26 | lucent | bertrik: okay! |
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10:37:41 | lucent | funman: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10268 |
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10:54:15 | trmss | i am using rockbox with 2nd gen. ipod mini and recently I am troubled with a extreme dim screen. When I boot the original firmware, the screen seems to work perfectly but after I boot rockbox, the screen fades away. Any ideas? |
10:56:14 | linuxstb | This has changed recently? |
10:56:57 | trmss | yep, and strangely without any updates or other possible trigger... and also I've tried the recent release just in case but no chance |
10:57:14 | bertrik | trmss, if you are able to compile your own build from svn, you could try various revisions and bisect it to see exactly which revision caused it |
10:58:09 | bertrik | oh in that case, bisecting won't help unfortunately ... |
10:59:14 | linuxstb | trmss: I can't recall anyone else reporting that... Are you saying the backlight works initially when you boot Rockbox, then fades to off? |
10:59:15 | trmss | it seems so :( I really couldn't guess where to look with this kind of problem and thought that maybe someone here experienced some similar case... |
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11:00:01 | trmss | yes but from the first second even, there are some dim lines vertically... and it gets dimer and dimer when I go into some folders... |
11:00:46 | trmss | but in some random moments it works properly... that's why I was suspicious about the hardware and tried out with original firmware... |
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11:04:08 | linuxstb | So there's no sign at all of the problem in the original firmware? |
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11:08:17 | trmss | yes, original firmware works perfectly... |
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11:08:42 | trmss | I was at least expecting the vertical dim lines, but... no problems at all |
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11:15:02 | Llorean | You said it can take a little bit to show up. how long did you spend in the original firmware, and did you do many things that trigger accesses to the disk? |
11:19:10 | pixelma | does the original firmware have backlight fade (settings)? I think it doesn't but believe Rockbox does |
11:19:25 | pixelma | (on the Ipod Mini I mean, of course) |
11:22:28 | trmss | Llorean: The dim just appears, not after a while... and specially if I enter into any folder... and I tried to the exact same actions in ipodos as well |
11:23:03 | trmss | pixelma: I can check if the original firmware has a setting like that... I didn't change any setting in that side actually but... |
11:23:34 | pixelma | I believe backlight fade is enabled by default |
11:24:11 | Llorean | trmss: How can you perform the "Exact same actions"? |
11:24:22 | Llorean | The firmwares work entirely differently, load different things into RAM, access the disk at different times. |
11:24:32 | Llorean | That's why I asked how long you spent in the OF, and about the general types of actions. |
11:25:48 | trmss | well go into third level of folder and choose a file to play... in rockbox... not the "same" in that manner in OF but browse many folders and play songs in ipod as well... |
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11:26:15 | Llorean | And how long did you spend on the OF? |
11:26:19 | Llorean | I've asked this three times now... |
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11:26:35 | trmss | spending same time yes, and it was working without changing the BL settings before... I'm using RB for about two years... with several updates... |
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11:26:50 | trmss | just phone 1 sec |
11:26:52 | Llorean | Please, I didn't ask if you spent the same amount of time. |
11:26:56 | Llorean | I asked how much time in the OF. |
11:27:20 | Llorean | I would recommend using the OF for several days regular use, just see if the problem takes a little longer to show up there, before ruling it out as a hardware issue. |
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11:32:49 | trmss | Llorean, OK, sorry for that... I got it now... |
11:33:34 | trmss | Yep I didn't assume that a harware problem needs time as well to appear... I'll try that and see what happens... |
11:33:53 | trmss | thanks... take care... |
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13:15:02 | lucent | \o/ |
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13:59:49 | gevaerts | Llorean: the Rockbox Utility forum seems to be sorted in a suboptimal way |
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14:01:07 | gevaerts | I think it's sorted by first post |
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14:15:15 | Llorean | Fixed |
14:15:39 | Llorean | For some reason the new boards I created seem to have ended up like that, rather than being created set to use the forum default |
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14:28:47 | MarcGuay | Is it possible to ignore a file when SVN commit-ing or to check in a particular .diff file? |
14:29:41 | Torne | svn commit file1 file2 file3 |
14:29:47 | Torne | alas not the other way around :) |
14:29:59 | MarcGuay | Torne: Crummy. Thanks. |
14:30:10 | n1s | MarcGuay: you can select specific files (like Torne said) or specific subdirs of the source |
14:30:13 | gevaerts | if you only want to commit part of a file, you have to be creative |
14:30:15 | Torne | grep/cut/etc on the output of status to generate the list? :) |
14:30:39 | Torne | or, yaknow. check the branch out with bzr instead and use shelve or interactive :) |
14:37:28 | CIA-38 | New commit by MarcGuay (r21153): c100: Get a regular build compiling. Very little functionality. |
14:38:47 | MarcGuay | Caveman style copy & paste from the diff worked fine. |
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14:42:39 | LambdaCalculus37 | MarcGuay: Bonjour to you; congrats on getting the c100 to build. ;) |
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14:54:59 | * | LambdaCalculus37 managed to make a little more progress on getting the GoGear HDD6330 to build yesterday, but it still errors out at spots |
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14:58:59 | MarcGuay | LambdaCalculus37: Thanks. |
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15:03:37 | LambdaCalculus37 | Although for some odd reason, I can't svn add the new adc-target.h file and two other *.h files. They're just a copy/paste from the HDD1630 files. |
15:04:06 | LambdaCalculus37 | Should I perhaps svn remove those files (I have them in firmware/target/arm/philips/hdd6330 in my local trunk), then try to svn add them? |
15:04:20 | linuxstb | If you've copied the hdd1630 files, you should use "svn cp", rather than adding them as brand new files. |
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15:07:54 | LambdaCalculus37 | linuxstb: So just "svn cp <path/to/file> </path/to/destination>? |
15:08:35 | linuxstb | LambdaCalculus37: Yes, I think so. |
15:10:51 | LambdaCalculus37 | linuxstb: Okay, I'll give it a shot. |
15:11:58 | LambdaCalculus37 | After that, I have to figure out why it errors out when building the debug menu (and I need to get a pastebin of the error). |
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16:39:32 | DONO | G'day im havin a bit of trouble loadin Rockbox to my 4th Gen (colour) . Anyone around able to help? |
16:40:13 | kugel | DONO: Not if you don't describe your problem |
16:40:25 | * | GodEater 's psychic powers are on the blink today |
16:41:01 | DONO | k , in Rockbox it states my colour 4thgen is on G:\ after auto detect . i click Complete Installation but the window brings up No Ipod Detected |
16:41:31 | DONO | i read thru FAQ n stuff of course . but couldnt really.. see anything of this. |
16:41:58 | Torne | 1) is it actually on G: ? |
16:42:12 | DONO | yup , under My Computer its G:\ |
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16:42:58 | GodEater | have you ever had Rockbox installed on it before ? |
16:43:01 | DONO | nope |
16:43:26 | gevaerts | do you have administrator rights? |
16:43:29 | DONO | sure do |
16:44:00 | GodEater | Can you try going to the "Installation" tab, and choosing the second option "Install Rockbox" first. |
16:44:03 | kugel | so, is anyone opposed to adding the ability for plugins to go to the wps after exiting? |
16:44:20 | GodEater | kugel: assuming you have music playing, sounds like a fine idea |
16:44:37 | DONO | GodEater - Doin that now |
16:44:57 | DONO | k installed. |
16:45:05 | kugel | GodEater: it would also work without music playing. it would just start playback in this case |
16:45:12 | GodEater | ok, now try the first option, "Install the bootloader" |
16:45:25 | DONO | No Ipod Detected. |
16:45:26 | GodEater | kugel: I'm not sure that's such a great plan |
16:45:42 | GodEater | DONO: which OS do you use ? Windows ? Linux ? OSX ? |
16:45:47 | gevaerts | kugel: what would it start exactly? |
16:45:51 | DONO | Windows XP SP2 |
16:46:02 | GodEater | DONO: have you ever used the command prompt before ? |
16:46:05 | kugel | where-ever you left off the last time |
16:46:07 | DONO | of course heh. |
16:46:25 | kugel | it's the same thing as hitting the wps button in the filetree or mainmenu |
16:46:27 | GodEater | DONO: you'd be amazed how many people haven't |
16:46:44 | DONO | i was a part time network admin. so , thats that. heh |
16:46:46 | GodEater | DONO: well, in the manual (which I assume you've downloaded) there should be a link to ipodpatcher |
16:47:37 | kugel | in fact, it's absolutely the same code that starts the wps (it works by adding a new return value for plugins, which then sets the same variable to true as if you selected music or hit the wps button) |
16:47:40 | linuxstb | ipodpatcher doesn't even need the command prompt - you can just double-click ipodpatcher.exe and follow the prompts. |
16:48:05 | DONO | ahk beaudy , ill get back when thats done |
16:48:20 | GodEater | linuxstb: true, but some people get scared by that awful text only window :) |
16:48:20 | kugel | the modifications are rather minimal, and it's just meant as a ability, no current plugin would actually do it until it's adapted |
16:48:58 | gevaerts | kugel: I think I see what you want to achieve, and I think it's a valid usecase, but I'd hope that only one or two plugins would actually do that... |
16:49:53 | kugel | the aim should be to either add a menu entry for the wps or react to the main wps button, and not to replace the default and current exit behavior |
16:50:01 | GodEater | I'd only want the WPS after a plugin exited if I'd had music playing already when I started the plugin |
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16:50:20 | * | gevaerts thinks that kugel should explain what he's actually trying to do |
16:50:47 | kugel | making PF able to go to the wps directly on top of the normal exiting |
16:50:53 | gevaerts | GodEater: I guess this is about plugins actually starting playback |
16:50:53 | GodEater | DONO: how you getting on ? |
16:50:57 | DONO | ipodpatcher.exe even says no Ipods found |
16:51:17 | * | GodEater throws the support badge to linuxstb |
16:51:19 | DONO | just one thing , Nano-Chromatics are 4th Gen correct? |
16:51:25 | GodEater | er no |
16:51:28 | DONO | ._. |
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16:51:36 | GodEater | that's a 4th gen Nano |
16:51:39 | n1s | DONO: not supported, as the frontpage says |
16:51:39 | GodEater | not a 4th gen ipod |
16:51:43 | saratoga | heh I was going to ask if you had a 4G |
16:51:55 | saratoga | but it always seems so insulting |
16:52:36 | DONO | ah shit i read read wrong , i saw 1 through 5.5 .. whereas its 1 & 5.5 |
16:52:48 | DONO | without the 2 reads lol |
16:52:48 | Torne | no, the generations are just seperate for each model |
16:52:59 | kugel | GodEater: Why would you not want that? |
16:52:59 | Torne | 1st-5.5th gen original ipods work |
16:53:10 | DONO | ah righti , got it |
16:53:46 | gevaerts | kugel: would that be unconditional? I think going to the WPS if you start playback from PF is perfectly reasonable, but going to the WPS if you just looked at PF from the plugin menu to see what it was about sounds wrong |
16:53:56 | kugel | also, it's meant as an additional way of exiting. The return to plugin browse should always be the default behavior when pressing the dedicated quit button |
16:54:34 | DONO | ive been mislead by the whole wording differently between 'ipod' & 'nano' .. considering its iPod Nano. lol |
16:54:39 | kugel | gevaerts: Why? That's how it works in the core too |
16:54:42 | DONO | anyway.. ah hell i feel stupid lol. |
16:54:43 | GodEater | kugel: sorry, I see where you going now - that makes perfect sense |
16:54:44 | DONO | thanks! |
16:55:05 | gevaerts | kugel: I'm a bit confused now. That's how what works? |
16:55:21 | GodEater | DONO: how would you suggest we word it ? |
16:55:59 | kugel | you can go to the wps in the core too without music playing, like you browse the unrelated .rockbox folder or themes, then you hit the wps button |
16:56:15 | gevaerts | ah ok. I see what you mean now. Yes, that's perfectly reasonable |
16:56:16 | kugel | this will start playback where you left off and get you to the wps |
16:56:41 | Torne | can rbutil not tell people they're trying to install on an unsupported model? |
16:57:05 | DONO | i guess ' Nano-Chromatic ' would have made it more blaint . but .. now i understand theres a difference between iPod and Nano heh. |
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16:57:16 | GodEater | I've never heard them called that =/ |
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16:57:40 | kugel | I could also imagine this works nicely for plugins utilized in the core (credits, properties) so that they're even more integrated |
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16:57:44 | DONO | GodEater - −−> http://www.apple.com/ipodnano/ |
16:58:05 | * | GodEater shoots Steve Jobs |
16:58:13 | GodEater | I wish they'd settle on just one f***ing name |
16:58:19 | DONO | i wasnt sure if there was a 4th Gen and somehow Nano-Chromatic was different |
16:58:24 | DONO | so , thats why I was puzzled heh. |
16:58:29 | GodEater | sadly not |
16:58:35 | GodEater | daft name for it if you ask me though |
16:58:43 | DONO | yeah lol |
16:58:46 | GodEater | even the 2nd gen Nano was available in multiple colours |
16:59:05 | linuxstb | That doesn't seem the name of it, just an advertising slogan. |
16:59:21 | GodEater | perhaps, but you could be forgiven for thinking it was the name |
16:59:23 | gevaerts | kugel: I agree. Maybe it would also (in time) allow us to move more core stuff out to plugins if we ever want to |
16:59:25 | GodEater | it's pretty big on the page |
16:59:36 | linuxstb | GodEater: Not really - everywhere else on the site simply refers to it as "ipod nano" |
16:59:42 | Torne | srsly though, shouldn't the autodetection tell yuo that it's not supported? i thought rbutil knew all the USB ids |
16:59:42 | DONO | oh in Australia its spewed everywhere as CHROMATIC .. |
16:59:55 | DONO | so somehow i figured it was different to 4th Gen ._. |
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17:00:24 | gevaerts | Torne: it should, but I'm not sure if all ids are in there |
17:00:35 | Torne | hm. theyr'e listed on the rbutil development wiki page |
17:00:46 | gevaerts | DONO: which version of rbutil did you use? |
17:00:54 | Torne | and if it wasn't listed surely it would've failed autodetection altogether? |
17:00:56 | DONO | 1.2.1 |
17:01:16 | GodEater | DONO: we go off this page with our naming anyway : http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1353 |
17:01:59 | kugel | this link should probably be pasted on a dozens of places on www.rockbox.org and rbutil |
17:02:14 | Torne | oh, hm. does it just invoke ipodpatcher? |
17:02:14 | GodEater | perhaps |
17:02:19 | DONO | yeah thats the one i viewed and i saw 4th Gen and figured oh rockbox is supported , didnt realise theres a difference between 4th Gen Nano and 4th Gen iPod |
17:02:34 | DONO | BUT |
17:02:41 | GodEater | yes, they're inconsistent about what they call the ipod generations |
17:02:48 | GodEater | they call the 4th gen the "Click wheel" I think |
17:02:48 | Torne | DONO: there's not a particularly useful name to call the original ipod |
17:02:54 | kugel | you saw the 4th gen but didn't see that it doesn't actually match your player? |
17:02:57 | Torne | you can't call it the ipod classic because, er, apple have made a new thing called that ;) |
17:03:07 | Torne | so it's tricky to be specific about that |
17:03:22 | GodEater | kugel: point to the "4th gen" on that page |
17:03:25 | GodEater | they don't list one |
17:03:34 | GodEater | it's either the photo, or the click wheel |
17:03:50 | DONO | i just didnt see the difference in Nano & iPod considering its an iPod .. but now the message at the top of Rockbox's homepage makes sense hah |
17:03:54 | n1s | I agree that it would be nice if the installer told the user about an unsupported ipod since they are the most common to confuse |
17:04:03 | kugel | oh lol, sorry |
17:04:16 | gevaerts | apparently it warns about some of them, but not all |
17:04:20 | linuxstb | n1s: It should do, but it looks like rbutil doesn't have the USB IDs of all the newer Nanos, just one. |
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17:04:26 | GodEater | DONO: that's the genius of apple's marketing I guess |
17:04:39 | GodEater | DONO: on the outside they all look similar, on the inside, they're really not. |
17:05:04 | Torne | linuxstb: i'm just wondering how come it knows it's an ipod to detect it, but not that it's an unsupported model |
17:05:06 | NHeal | jordan.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
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17:05:13 | DONO | aha yeah , i understand that part ;) like their genius who designed iTunes |
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17:05:27 | Torne | does ipodpatcher still detect unsupported models, to be able to dump them etc? |
17:05:32 | GodEater | DONO: you think he's a genius? I think I'd like to toilet paper his house.... |
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17:05:44 | DONO | GodEater - was being sarcastic ;P haha |
17:05:55 | GodEater | DONO: thank heavens :) |
17:06:42 | DONO | me and another Acer techie have a pact to roll him up in carpet and throw him into a pit of scarabs. |
17:06:58 | GodEater | bit extreme |
17:07:02 | n1s | linuxstb: i listed the usb id for the 4g nano on that wiki page with usb ids so it should be easy to make a patch if someone can find it :) |
17:07:03 | GodEater | but I understand the sentiment |
17:07:04 | * | LambdaCalculus37 thinks we're veering off-topic here |
17:07:08 | DONO | not really in my opinion. |
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17:07:32 | GodEater | I thought apple bashing was definitely on-topic for #rockbox :) |
17:07:32 | DONO | in any case , is there any sort of , well putting it simple , hacks for the 4th NANO. ? heh |
17:07:38 | GodEater | DONO: nope |
17:07:43 | DONO | ahk |
17:07:44 | saratoga | why do we check for specific USB IDs as opposed to just checking for any unknown Apple id? |
17:08:04 | saratoga | getting an apple usbid thats unknown should trigger an unsupported device message IMO |
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17:08:40 | n1s | saratoga: very sensible suggestion |
17:09:01 | linuxstb | Torne: I don't think ipodpatcher supports the new ipods in any way - rbutil detects them via usb IDs. |
17:09:03 | Torne | except that won't work so well on a mac |
17:09:07 | Torne | "apple mouse" |
17:09:09 | Torne | "apple keyboard" |
17:09:10 | Torne | etc |
17:09:10 | Torne | :) |
17:09:11 | DONO | Look what ive done. lol |
17:09:23 | Torne | DONO: hey it's good to know these things |
17:09:36 | Torne | it's theoretically possible for rbutil to have told you that your ipod is not supported, and it didn't |
17:09:42 | Torne | so, maybe someone should fix that |
17:09:51 | Torne | then the next guy won't have to come ask us |
17:09:52 | Torne | :) |
17:10:01 | GodEater | Mr Someone already has a large todo list |
17:10:12 | Torne | There is that |
17:10:12 | DONO | heh i see , saratoga's idea seems ideal |
17:10:24 | n1s | all the different ipod PIDs seem to start with 12 so maybe other apple usb stuff use other starting digits of the pid? |
17:10:29 | Torne | i dunno. you would at least want to make sure it was mass storage. |
17:10:46 | GodEater | I agree |
17:10:55 | GodEater | going with all Apple Id's isn't quite the right idea |
17:11:04 | n1s | or we could rely on the users knowing what ipod they have ;) |
17:11:07 | Torne | just doing the list on the wiki would be a good start |
17:11:12 | GodEater | n1s: epic fail |
17:11:23 | n1s | GodEater: evidently so :D |
17:11:26 | GodEater | hehe |
17:11:45 | n1s | if anybody patches and builds rbutil i can test with my 4g nano |
17:13:11 | saratoga | does rbutil fail to detect a supported player if an unsupported one is also attached? |
17:13:24 | n1s | no idea |
17:13:31 | GodEater | don't think anyone's tested that |
17:13:59 | saratoga | the logic looks as if it might |
17:15:24 | pixelma2 | hmm... pf seems to be crashing now on hwcodec - and it also won't be able to start playback the way it is now |
17:15:57 | kugel | :( |
17:16:17 | kugel | pixelma2: when does it crash? |
17:17:52 | pixelma2 | a very short time after entering. It shows the first "screen" with the covers and then freezes. I'm not able to move left or right or go to the menu. If I press "off" now, Rockbox crashes completely and reboots |
17:18:38 | kugel | I pretty much only touched code which is used after entering the track list |
17:18:40 | * | n1s is very confused, the usbids in DeviceDetection for the ipods do not match those in rbutli.ini very well, the one the wiki states is for the classic rbutil uses for video, same with first/second gen nano... |
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17:19:18 | pixelma2 | kugel: I would have to try when it broke. But the playback thing is a fact |
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17:20:14 | kugel | Why? |
17:20:32 | pixelma2 | because the plugin grabs the audio buffer |
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17:21:12 | * | n1s obviously needs more coffee, ignore |
17:21:19 | * | pixelma2 refers to amiconn for the details |
17:21:35 | kugel | I see that it uses plugin_get_audio_buffer for "low mem" |
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17:22:24 | kugel | That means playback has to be stopped before, but I thought you could start playback after again, but I'm not into the details of the get_buffer stuff either |
17:22:26 | Torne | n1s: hm, that's unfortunate.. presumably the ones in rbutil are right :) |
17:22:36 | Torne | n1s: since it seems to work for everyone.. |
17:22:49 | kugel | that doesn't seem like a HWCODEC restriction though |
17:22:49 | n1s | Torne: no, i was wrong, misread the ini file |
17:22:53 | Torne | oh, right. |
17:23:14 | n1s | some devices in that has a "usbid" and some has "usbincompat" |
17:23:18 | n1s | which confused me |
17:23:38 | n1s | for example the ipod nano has no usbid but has usbincompat with the 2g nano... |
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17:24:56 | n1s | which means i have no idea how to add more incompatible models, or why a 2g nano is specifically ncompatible with a 1g nano etc... |
17:25:00 | pixelma | kugel: I believe there is something else but can't tell you the details |
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17:25:53 | Torne | n1s: i would guess the usbincompat entries are on the closest model? |
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17:26:45 | n1s | well it seems weird to me, the 2g nano is incompatible with rockbox, it doesn't really matter that it is incompatible with the 1g nano |
17:27:12 | Torne | yah, but i mean the ini file is structured around models that *are* supported |
17:27:15 | n1s | afaiu but maybe rbutil has some thing that relies on this so i'll not touch it |
17:27:17 | Torne | there aren't seperate entries for things that don't work |
17:27:30 | pixelma | kugel: unfortunately testing on Ondio is always a bit tedious because unpacking a build takes ages :\ and if the plugin API changed I at least need the new firmware file and pictureflow.rock |
17:27:40 | Torne | so the entries are "this is the install config for ipod, except this usb id which is unsupported" |
17:27:50 | n1s | Torne: so it should get such a list imo |
17:27:55 | Torne | except it's complicated by there being lots of ipods |
17:27:58 | Torne | well, perhaps |
17:28:58 | funman | bertrik: I have seen Clipv2 1GB at 35€ here in Dijon |
17:29:32 | n1s | we could even create entries with names for them so rbutil could print "this is a fourth generation ipod nano which is not supported ny rockbox" instead of "unsupported ipod" or w.e. |
17:29:56 | Torne | well, that sounds like a plan, but i have no idea how rbutil works |
17:30:15 | * | n1s neither |
17:30:31 | n1s | and the two guys working on it are not around |
17:30:34 | Torne | heh. |
17:30:43 | Llorean | kugel: I was wrong about Next/Prev working in-list on the S it seems. I could've sworn I'd used the dedicated buttons there, but it seems they don't work there (yet, they aren't mapped to anything and so should be mapped to it in the same way as the dedicated volume buttons are, and since it sounds like you're using the list context for the plugin anyway, I guess it shouldn't really affect you) |
17:30:44 | saratoga | n1s: you want to add more usbids to rbutil? |
17:30:56 | funman | If only we had some way to contact them, like a developers mailing list .. |
17:31:15 | Torne | saratoga: we're thinking it should at least include all the known ids for ipods, specifically so it can tell people that unsupported models aren't supported |
17:31:29 | Torne | maybe saving some of the frequent questions :) |
17:31:29 | n1s | saratoga: sounds liek the easiest way to tell users that their ipods are not supported reliably |
17:31:49 | Llorean | I thought RBUtil already tells you when you're using a newer-generation iPod |
17:32:09 | linuxstb | Llorean: It does for some, but apparently not all. |
17:32:09 | n1s | Llorean: only classic and 2g nano from what i can tell |
17:32:54 | Llorean | Aaah |
17:32:56 | Torne | n1s: you could try just duplicating the line and putting more ids in tehre |
17:32:57 | kugel | Llorean: yea, CONTEXT_TREE is chained in now. It's just a matter of implementing handlers for wps/stop/volume. Of course we have to take care whether pf doesn't already use that buttons |
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17:33:07 | Torne | if you have one fo the ipods in question? |
17:33:14 | Torne | i don't, so not entirely trivial to test it |
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17:33:17 | n1s | Torne: yust found an example that should work, the sansas list multiple ids |
17:33:24 | Llorean | kugel: Since PF is basically just a visualized list, why would it need buttons that aren't normally needed for a list? |
17:33:28 | Torne | stuff the ones from the wiki in there, and try it ;) |
17:33:35 | * | n1s will do |
17:33:53 | saratoga | n1s: can you actually put a message in somewhere? |
17:34:13 | saratoga | you don't need to duplicate the line it takes a list of IDs |
17:34:19 | n1s | saratoga: not as it is now, you'll only get "unsupported ipod" |
17:34:32 | n1s | saratoga: yes i know i saw how the sansas do it |
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17:35:06 | saratoga | shall i commit or you? |
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17:35:28 | kugel | Llorean: currently it has a dedicated quit button which may be be a button which is already used in lists (e.g. in the e200 case, power is quit but would stop in lists) |
17:35:31 | n1s | i can do it, but i'll test with my 4g nano first |
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17:35:51 | saratoga | ok |
17:35:54 | Llorean | kugel: Does it need a dedicated quit button? |
17:36:02 | Llorean | If it's ever going to be used in the database, it really shouldn't have one. |
17:36:05 | saratoga | if you are lazy just replace the ids for the nano with: usbincompat=0x05ac1260, 0x05ac1260, 0x05ac1263 |
17:36:06 | Llorean | You can't really "quit" the database. |
17:36:10 | saratoga | ops |
17:36:10 | kugel | also, the list flips in PF, and left/right are used for scrolling in the album list |
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17:36:26 | saratoga | usbincompat=0x05ac1260, 0x05ac1262, 0x05ac1263 |
17:36:27 | kugel | I don't think it does, you can quit with ACTION_STD_CANCEL also |
17:36:35 | n1s | saratoga: i did that but with the correct one for the 3g ;) |
17:36:42 | * | n1s slow |
17:37:03 | funman | bertrik: i can't get Clip LCD display something with FS #10048 patch :( , perhaps I should mention which revision I'm using when posting patches. |
17:37:39 | saratoga | detectUsb should probably also be fixed to check all available USB devices before returning an unsupported device error as well |
17:38:03 | bertrik | funman, yeah, the screen went black here too just after the bootloader with that patch, no idea what causes it |
17:38:07 | kugel | I can 50fps in pf with FlynDice's latest patch |
17:38:34 | bertrik | I tried some delays in the lcd_write_xxx functions, but no luck (talking about a clip BTW) |
17:38:49 | pixelma2 | kugel: I just noticed... it crashes when it wants to enter the tracklist. Thing is - it also hints on a keymap issue because now going "right" on the Ondio doesn't move right in th art screen but tries to enter the tracklist (and I didn't expect that as it once worked correctly) |
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17:39:30 | pixelma2 | so I can't test what it really does without the tracklist... |
17:39:56 | bertrik | regarding the recent fmradio problems on ams sansas that can't be solved by larger delays, I wonder if there's some kind of initialisation problem |
17:41:12 | funman | bertrik: I tried that, also changing the DBOP frequency |
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17:41:15 | bertrik | I looked again in the OF and there something very weird there: there is an i2c delay function that is called with the amount delay in R0, but the delay parameter seems to be completely ignored by the function |
17:41:25 | CIA-38 | New commit by nls (r21156): Add usb ids for third and fourth gen nanos to the list of unsupported targets |
17:41:52 | kugel | but it stops loading covers quit soon (and I I regularly get theh F**K message which indicates retry in the sd transfers) |
17:41:56 | kugel | quite* |
17:41:57 | funman | bertrik: perhaps the dynamic delay is replaced by a hardcoded value? |
17:42:05 | kugel | pixelma: what happens if you press up? |
17:42:39 | funman | kugel: the F**K message is only here to detect an infinite loop in resetting transfers (failed transfer often happen and this sounds normal to me) |
17:43:19 | kugel | well, it stops loading covers at this point |
17:43:26 | pixelma2 | kugel: the same. I'll bisect (as the keymap changes were a bit later) |
17:43:29 | bertrik | funman, exactly |
17:43:58 | kugel | i.e. I can flip though the covers just fine, but they're all empty except the first 10 or so |
17:44:51 | pixelma2 | kugel: what do you want to tell me with this? I'm stuck at cover #1... |
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17:45:22 | funman | kugel: sd transfers are not working (test_disk fails), so any plugin can function incorrectly without other reason than the code being corrupted. |
17:45:28 | kugel | nothing, just made sure they keymap conflict doesn't make it crash |
17:45:37 | bertrik | funman, also the fmradio i2c delay is just a simple nop delay loop and doesn't use anything fancier that is independent of CPU speed (perhaps CPU speed in the OF is always unboosted with radio active) |
17:45:48 | kugel | funman: "it sounds normal" sounded like everything is fine |
17:46:11 | pixelma2 | kugel: maybe, but entering tracklist seems to do... |
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17:46:34 | pixelma2 | which is the only thing I can do at the moment :\ |
17:47:11 | funman | kugel: did you run test_disk to verify? I get sd transfers work correctly only when the data cache is disabled, and even then I have to use a DMA buffer aligned on cache line size (32 bytes) |
17:47:29 | kugel | pixelma: this should make it able to browse through covers again (I hope) http://pastie.org/496616 |
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17:48:23 | kugel | funman: No, I didn't. |
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17:49:35 | * | n1s turned out to commit the rbutil thing without testing because i cant find any info on how it reads that ini file or where it stores any config info... :/ |
17:50:45 | funman | I'll look again at the USB code with the help of the AMD Geode CS5536 datasheet. With the hope to be able to communicate with our devices when the screen refuses working. |
17:52:35 | pixelma2 | it also crashes with r21142 after a few seconds in the art view mode... :/ |
17:54:33 | kugel | funman: "creat() failed" |
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17:57:42 | pixelma2 | seems I need to do it more carefully. With "catch mem access" I at least get an error address. Starting to test with r21108 now but have to do other (RL (TM)) too |
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18:56:41 | LambdaCalculus37 | linuxstb: Thanks for the earlier svn advice; I managed to get the three files I couldn't svn add before to now add themselves correctly to the trunk. |
18:57:05 | LambdaCalculus37 | I now need to get the last couple of kinks out and I should be able to commit the new target. |
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19:06:32 | LambdaCalculus37 | http://lambdacalculus379.pastebin.com/m39885f99 <−− Now I know I have quite a bit of work to do. :) |
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19:11:14 | linuxstb | LambdaCalculus37: Looks like you have a port to write... ;) |
19:12:14 | LambdaCalculus37 | linuxstb: So definitely not in a commitable state? |
19:13:50 | LambdaCalculus37 | Or can I at least commit what I have now so that others can also help do some work on it? |
19:15:25 | linuxstb | I'm not the person to ask about committing not-working ports... |
19:19:34 | bertrik | just my opinion: I think for ports that currently don't work yet it's no problem to commit new stuff even if it doesn't fully work yet (as long as it's an improvement over the current situation) |
19:20:13 | bertrik | and it shouldn't interfere with currently working ports of course |
19:21:02 | LambdaCalculus37 | bertrik: Just to make sure none of my changes are going to bork anything, I'll try to build for other targets as well to make sure everything's still working. |
19:21:22 | CIA-38 | New commit by kugel (r21157): Samsung YH*: Enable RTC on all, enable lcd contrast on 925. |
19:21:57 | LambdaCalculus37 | bertrik: Besides the fact that the HDD6330 still needs more work in order to be ready to go. |
19:22:20 | LambdaCalculus37 | There's no proper touchpad driver for it, and while audio playback works, it's still rather spotty. |
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19:44:18 | onlysoaa | Hello everyone. I just tried built tcctool in Ubuntu 9.04 to test out the D2 build on my P2, but when I run it, it throws an error: |
19:44:24 | onlysoaa | [ERR] usb_set_configuration failed (-1) |
19:44:37 | gevaerts | you need to run it as root, e.g. with sudo |
19:44:46 | onlysoaa | Ahh, thanks. |
19:45:06 | onlysoaa | *facepalm* how'd I not think of that? |
19:45:59 | onlysoaa | Ah hah! |
19:46:01 | onlysoaa | It loaded. |
19:46:53 | onlysoaa | Pretty much the same as the last report, as I haven't made any changes to Rockbox yet. It's the same blue flickery screen as previously reported, but at least it runs. |
19:47:42 | onlysoaa | I have a feeling the D2 and the P2 use different power management chips; am I right? |
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19:49:28 | LambdaCalculus37 | onlysoaa: There should be some information about the P2 on the wiki. |
19:49:37 | LambdaCalculus37 | That's your best bet to find out what the innards are. |
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19:50:19 | onlysoaa | Yeah, the wiki page doesn't have info on power management. |
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19:52:04 | LambdaCalculus37 | onlysoaa: That's strange. Whoever wrote the wiki page must've forgotten to mention it, or probably didn't know. |
19:52:10 | LambdaCalculus37 | So are you willing to find out? ;) |
19:52:36 | onlysoaa | I'd like to figure out the LCD first. :P |
19:53:24 | kugel | onlysoaa: there's some hardcoded numbers in the drivers related to the resolution |
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19:53:52 | onlysoaa | kugel: I'm looking into that right now. The file in question is lcd-cowond2.c, right? |
19:54:02 | kugel | try searching for the D2's resolution and it's hex-number variants and replace it with the P2 ones |
19:54:11 | kugel | yes |
19:54:50 | kugel | also search for the numbers-1 (i.e. 319 and 239 if the resolution is 320x240), those are likely resolution related too |
19:55:11 | onlysoaa | Ahh, I see. Any suggestions for a good way to search across files? |
19:55:20 | kugel | grep |
19:55:30 | onlysoaa | Alright. p: |
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19:55:47 | kugel | but lcd-cowond2.c should be the right file |
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19:56:11 | kugel | don't forget to change config-cowond2.h accordingly too |
19:56:21 | bertrik | any e200v2 owners online that have problems with the radio? |
19:58:24 | FlynDice | only with the mmu enabled.... will that help? |
19:59:02 | bertrik | FlynDice, can you test my fmradio_i2c_fix patch? |
19:59:18 | bertrik | it's in FS #10267 |
19:59:58 | FlynDice | sure, but my radio works with current svn, I'll try it with the mmu build though |
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20:00:16 | FlynDice | I'll be a few getting set up |
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20:02:04 | bertrik | FlynDice, there's no hurry to do it right now, but if/when you do it please let me know the result |
20:02:15 | FlynDice | you bet |
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20:24:24 | JdGordon| | can you not do next-dir on the ipods? |
20:24:43 | JdGordon| | menu+next and select+next do anything |
20:25:00 | JdGordon| | or play+next |
20:25:54 | Llorean | Did you try short + long next? |
20:26:13 | JdGordon| | eek |
20:26:29 | JdGordon| | but thanks, that works |
20:26:34 | Llorean | Yeah, I'm not fond of it |
20:26:38 | Llorean | It trips me up when I try to seek sometimes |
20:26:53 | JdGordon| | its nice that it can be done one handed... but... yuk |
20:27:14 | * | JdGordon| tries to remember to checkout the ipod keymap and add nextdir tonight if possible |
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20:29:06 | * | JdGordon| also thinks about adding an option to disable AA... |
20:29:37 | Llorean | An option to disable AA? |
20:29:59 | Llorean | Isn't that just "use a WPS without AA"? |
20:30:00 | Mikachu | just don't put it in the wps? |
20:30:41 | JdGordon| | I'm using cabbie because im too lazy and dont care enough to find a different one |
20:31:02 | JdGordon| | and I dont think AA looks very good on the mini |
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20:41:28 | FlynDice | bertrik: FS #10267 works fine for me patched to svn, but my radio was working in svn anyway. When I added in FS #10048 it does not work. But interestingly enough it improves playback with the mmu enabled. I'm playing mp3 at an average of 43 MHz and only boosting 7% of the time. Perhaps there is more gold in the mine? ;) |
20:45:58 | FlynDice | I should say 192_32_32_dcache.patch from FS #10048 to be more precise |
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21:10:54 | kugel | FlynDice: but it still crashes early? |
21:12:14 | FlynDice | Yes it is does not fix it, but I was able to enter a proper boost/unboost mode simply by resuming play, I have not had that work before |
21:12:22 | bertrik | FlynDice, weird, the fmradio i2c stuff should have absolutely no effect on mp3 playback |
21:12:53 | FlynDice | I don't claim to understand, I just observe at this point... |
21:13:38 | bertrik | the weird thing is that the current delay in the fmradio i2c layer should already be long enough, so I can't explain either that it increasing the delay seems to make things work for some people |
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21:15:09 | FlynDice | You see, I don't have the handicap of actually understanding everything completely. I just try lots of stuff and see what works ;) |
21:15:28 | bertrik | it is very much appreciated |
21:15:28 | saratoga | does disabling boosting make any difference? |
21:17:55 | bertrik | FlynDice, the F*CK messages I got with the 192_32_32_dcache patch scared me a little ... |
21:18:37 | kugel | saratoga: interesting question |
21:18:54 | kugel | That reminds me that F/X don't have unboosting as well |
21:19:04 | kugel | and they have a quite similar processor |
21:20:12 | kugel | though, they implemted a cpu_set_frequency() which does the same as our (switch to fastbus) |
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21:20:33 | kugel | apparently, at some point, unboosting was disabled, for some reason |
21:20:54 | kugel | maybe kkurbjun or jhMikeS knows more |
21:21:03 | saratoga | it didn't seem to make a difference |
21:21:20 | saratoga | i think the chip has some sort of internal clock control that was as good as boosting, or something like that |
21:21:34 | bertrik | hm, the radio still works even when boosted with the 192_32_32_dcache patch on my clip |
21:21:34 | kugel | I'd think our chip has this as well |
21:21:47 | saratoga | i don't think so |
21:21:55 | saratoga | its not part of the arm stuff |
21:22:04 | kugel | wouldn't that be a cpu feature? |
21:22:15 | saratoga | probably built into the SOC |
21:23:04 | saratoga | and the F never had the most amazing battery life either |
21:23:22 | toffe82 | I think there was no gain for batteriy life |
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21:23:51 | kugel | saratoga: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatRuntime states pretty decent runtimes |
21:24:01 | funman | r12228 "disable CPU scaling again because it actually made the power consumption wor |
21:24:09 | funman | se." |
21:24:14 | gevaerts | saratoga: 20+ hours isn't bad for a HD player |
21:24:19 | bertrik | wow, worse? |
21:24:48 | kugel | 15h for with standard battery seems good for a hdd target with big screen |
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21:25:16 | kugel | I think we don't really have messured the impact of boosting on the AMSes |
21:25:21 | saratoga | its more like 15 hours with stock battery |
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21:25:37 | martian67 | actually im pretty sure that rockbox is beating apple standard firmware for me |
21:25:47 | martian67 | or at least its very close |
21:26:04 | gevaerts | Both of mine do 20+ hours. I got them on ebay, so I don't know if they have non-stock batteries |
21:26:11 | saratoga | signficantly worse then PP Ipods, and PP is crap |
21:26:30 | martian67 | saratoga, i dont find that :) |
21:26:52 | martian67 | if you mean that battery time is significantly worse |
21:27:01 | martian67 | that was the case at one time :/ |
21:27:27 | saratoga | regarding AMS, maybe the best way to debug the MMU would be to disable radio, boosting, etc and focus on just getting it working at one clock |
21:27:32 | saratoga | then enable more features once we have that |
21:27:40 | kugel | that seems like a good idea |
21:27:43 | saratoga | i feel like development is chasing 10 different bugs at once and getting no where |
21:28:01 | saratoga | it seems very likely we have additional driver bugs which are just now being exposed |
21:28:28 | saratoga | but i have done no work so what do i know |
21:30:15 | kugel | saratoga: I see only patched benches (with 24MHz etc) from Buschel. I don't think the ipod is much better |
21:30:20 | funman | MMU itself works very fine. |
21:30:34 | funman | The problems come with caches, especially the data cache |
21:30:50 | * | LambdaCalculus37 is glad to hear FM radio working on the GoGear HDD6330 |
21:31:04 | bertrik | LambdaCalculus37, is that a first? |
21:31:16 | funman | We don't use the MMU in SVN because then rockbox would be much slower, because of the disabled caches |
21:32:59 | LambdaCalculus37 | bertrik: No, it just confirms that the hardware is the same as in the HDD1630. |
21:34:27 | bertrik | funman, and the dcache problem manifests itself mainly when using dma? |
21:35:14 | saratoga | kugel: buschel's test should be very close to stock SVN, 24MHz clock probably adds an hour or so |
21:36:06 | kugel | funman: the dcache isn't enabled, so only the icache would make a difference |
21:36:06 | funman | bertrik: yes, we should check what happens when using simple transfers from the SD fifo. |
21:36:17 | kugel | why's the icache not functioning with mmu? |
21:36:45 | funman | the icache functions "better" with cached memory. |
21:37:00 | funman | since it's enabled i suppose it works fine |
21:37:13 | kugel | I mean, if we enable at least the mmu in svn, in theory, we shouldn't be slower? |
21:37:15 | bertrik | funman, yes I would like to see how it behaves with just one DMA active (only PCM) |
21:37:35 | funman | kugel: perhaps virtual address translation takes more cycles to complete |
21:37:40 | kugel | I once enabled only the MMU and I had the same poor speed as when i disabled the icache |
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21:45:23 | CIA-38 | New commit by bertrik (r21159): Add missing delay in i2c_start of the generic_i2c driver, used by ams targets. |
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21:50:25 | funman | build rockbox, zip, unzip, boot : works. modify test_disk, build, zip, unzip, boot : white screen. |
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21:51:19 | n1s | i think you miss a "unmount/eject" step in there... might cause weirdness from time to time ;) |
21:51:42 | funman | nope, safely unmounted |
21:53:17 | n1s | so random weirdness or a rockbox bug that only shows itself sometimes maybe? |
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21:54:01 | funman | n1s: a random bug that shows on AMS - with one of the patches attached to FS #10048 - |
21:54:33 | funman | alright it booted, now to verify what test_disk has to say |
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22:00:54 | kugel | funman: you have really no RTC in rockbox on the samsung? |
22:00:55 | funman | it says something in the lines of "damn, you handle pretty well your data cache : i couldn't find any error transferring 300MB while the data cache is on" |
22:01:07 | funman | kugel: yeah really :) you don't trust me? |
22:01:21 | kugel | weird |
22:01:52 | kugel | It works just fine on my yh925, and it also doesn't show in the OF |
22:02:13 | funman | perhaps some additional magic is required, like for making sound work |
22:02:34 | kugel | perhaps even the same magic? :) |
22:02:43 | funman | yes perhaps |
22:03:08 | funman | i started disassembling but it's very different from the sansa ams |
22:03:50 | funman | for example the PP registers can often be loaded in a register with 1 mov, unlike on ams where the register offset is loaded from memory, and then you can find cross references to it |
22:06:07 | funman | bertrik: the patch I attached to FS #10048 has to be edited |
22:06:57 | funman | I'll try the correct version on the Clip. It is very stable on the Fuze except some white screens when booting |
22:07:13 | funman | test_disk passes, and I'm listening to a Jimi Hendrix album right now. |
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22:09:02 | bertrik | funman, I'm interested in trying it |
22:09:45 | funman | bertrik: uncomment declaration of uncached_buffer and memcpy() calls using it, and comment the other memcpy() calls. (all of this in ata_xx.c) |
22:10:17 | funman | disable or enable data cache in system-as3525.c (I have it enabled here) |
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22:12:26 | funman | I still have the "white" (=black because there is no backlight on the Clip OLED display) effect. |
22:12:48 | Xakh | So... The Sansa Clip, does it work with Rockbox? |
22:12:52 | funman | I also modified the CCU_SCON register to be 0x1 (dma has the highest priority) |
22:13:03 | funman | Xakh: can you see it on the list of supported targets ? |
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22:13:18 | Xakh | Iunno where that is.... |
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22:13:34 | saratoga | check rockbox.org |
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22:13:50 | Xakh | well, I didn't see it, but you guys were talking about it. |
22:14:15 | funman | we work on it, but it doesn't work yet |
22:15:03 | bertrik | and we don't know how long it will take |
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22:22:08 | bertrik | funman, I still get a blank screen on my clip |
22:22:23 | funman | bertrik: same here |
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22:25:50 | onlysoaa | Oh, so it turns out the P2's LCD is quite different from the D2's. It just happens that the D2's code made the P2 display something. |
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22:27:22 | bertrik | funman, I think I know what's wrong :P |
22:27:48 | * | funman holds his breath |
22:28:05 | * | Mikachu prepares the oxygen tank |
22:28:40 | bertrik | I added a map_section(0, 0, 4096, CACHE_NONE); to set a default non-cached linear mapping for all memory before mapping all of the other specific ranges |
22:29:55 | bertrik | I mean that helped to get display working again |
22:30:12 | funman | hum where did that call go ? Oo |
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22:30:55 | funman | i'm pretty sure it was there in the first patches ! thanks for noticing |
22:31:15 | martian67 | rockbox summons demons! froggyman told me so |
22:31:42 | onlysoaa | Okay, shoot. The P2's LCD data sheet should have all the info necessary to write a driver, but I don't know how. |
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22:31:47 | Xakh | so when you talk about the D2, do you mean Samsung's D2? |
22:32:08 | onlysoaa | Xakh, Samsung P2, and Cowon D2. |
22:32:12 | Xakh | Ah. |
22:32:14 | Xakh | K. |
22:32:27 | Xakh | How well does the Cowon D2 work? |
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22:32:36 | funman | bertrik: test_disk running on the Clip, can you test playback ? ;) |
22:32:41 | onlysoaa | I have a P2, and it has hardware similar to the D2, so I'm using the D2 port as a base. Not sure how to proceed though. |
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22:33:32 | bertrik | test_disk only reads and should be relatively safe, right? |
22:34:21 | funman | test_disk writes 300MB of data and then reads it back. It should be as safe as current SVN, except that it may break the filesystem |
22:34:50 | Unhelpful | pixelma: that's very odd, as the album list config on pretty much everything but m3 maps BUTTON_RIGHT,BUTTON_NONE to PF_NEXT, BUTTON_RIGHT|BUTTON_REPEAT,BUTTON_NONE to PF_NEXT_REPEAT, and makes sure that BUTTON_RIGHT|BUTTON_REL and BUTTON_RIGHT|BUTTON_REPEAT with precondition BUTTON_NONE both map to ACTION_NONE. |
22:35:21 | Unhelpful | does the same thing happen on ondio sim? might at least be able to trace how it matches the wrong mapping, then. |
22:36:04 | funman | bertrik: the call was there in my 12th may patch, and absent in my 27th may patch :/ |
22:38:42 | funman | Clip: test passed. |
22:38:49 | bertrik | BTW, do you know a way to disable database refresh on the clip? |
22:38:58 | funman | no :/ |
22:39:55 | bertrik | hm, "incompatible model" :/ |
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22:40:28 | funman | bertrik: make clean? (allocation of room for the TTB changes the memory map) |
22:40:42 | bertrik | yes, doing that now |
22:41:31 | Unhelpful | hrm, recorder sim is utterly broken, also. |
22:46:04 | funman | Hum I see the Clip crashing (twice when resuming playback from the main menu) |
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22:48:08 | bertrik | funman, I'm not familiar with test_disk but it's doing something now (it's going to take a while I think) |
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22:48:49 | bertrik | I think it's writing slightly faster than 1 MB/s |
22:49:27 | funman | bertrik: it's computing a sequence of numbers and writing it to disk (mixing aligned/unaligned accesses and transfer sizes), and then will read it back and verify it. |
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22:51:53 | bertrik | funman, so far so good, this is taking a while .. |
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22:53:25 | funman | ~5 minutes |
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22:56:43 | Unhelpful | i think i see the trouble :/ |
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22:58:43 | pixelma | Unhelpful: haven't investigated further as I didn't have much time and concentrated on the crash. Revision 20800 worked and 21000 didn't (I know not much yet) so my gut feeling it that it has something to do with jpg and/or restructuring as overlay plugin |
22:59:23 | Unhelpful | pixelma: CONTEXT_PLUGIN conflicts with ALLOW_SOFTLOCK |
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23:00:37 | CIA-38 | New commit by mcuelenaere (r21160): Onda VX747: try at implementing FM tuner support |
23:00:42 | Unhelpful | so that under certain circumstances, core can up masking out CONTEXT_PLUGIN |
23:01:37 | Unhelpful | i've fixed it locally, but i should bump min plugin version for this, so i need to figure out how to sort some things. :) |
23:02:01 | bertrik | funman, not sure what I'm testing right now ... I took the patch, added the default linear uncached MMU mapping, edited ata_sd_as3525 to use the uncached buffer |
23:02:07 | bertrik | playback hung after about 10 seconds |
23:02:29 | Unhelpful | should action_get_touchscreen_press go with touchscreen_set_mode or with the other action/button stuff? |
23:02:33 | bertrik | (and did the icache enable thing in system-as3525.c) |
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23:03:02 | funman | bertrik: well you are testing rockbox with both caches enabled |
23:04:16 | bertrik | the HW info debug menu now says: MMU:op, Icache: op, Dcache:nop |
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23:08:51 | CIA-38 | New commit by unhelpful (r21161): Fix PF keymap issue caused by conflict between new CONTEXT_PLUGIN and ALLOW_SOFTLOCK, by changing value of ALLOW_SOFTLOCK. Bump min plugin version as ... |
23:09:29 | Unhelpful | pixelma: that should sort the keymap issue, at least it did on recorder sim for me. it might even happen to clear the crash, though i can't be certain of that. |
23:09:56 | evilnick | What's the current plan for (Rockbox) USB in bootloaders on PP targets for 3.3, are they to be included? |
23:10:22 | pixelma | Unhelpful: I guess not, the crash happened with r21000 too which was from before the keymap changes |
23:10:27 | funman | bertrik: just comment the code which disables data cache, or get my patch from FS #10048 |
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23:12:30 | Unhelpful | pixelma: that's... quite old. does backing out the plugin.lds change in that revision fix it, or do you not know yet if the problem goes back even farther? |
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23:15:48 | Bagder | mcuelenaere: Rockbox Blame Game! |
23:15:58 | mcuelenaere | I'm aware :) |
23:16:03 | Bagder | goodie |
23:18:41 | bertrik | funman, working nicely so far :) |
23:19:00 | funman | bertrik: yup, i'm listening full albums with that patch :) |
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23:21:18 | bertrik | wait, test_fps now claims 1591 fps for 1/1 greyscale ... |
23:21:31 | CIA-38 | New commit by mcuelenaere (r21162): Fix reds & yellow |
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23:25:08 | Unhelpful | mcuelenaere: apparently we have another report for "crash on PF track list enter". i've still no idea how buflib_buffer_out could do that. |
23:25:22 | mcuelenaere | FS# ? |
23:25:29 | mcuelenaere | and which target? |
23:25:29 | funman | bertrik: how full is your Clip's battery? it would be interesting to run a battery bench with this patch applied |
23:26:15 | Unhelpful | mcuelenaere: from pixelma, and on ondio. it apparently goes back to at least r21000 for her. |
23:26:29 | mcuelenaere | I'll look at it again on my target now |
23:27:04 | * | mcuelenaere has plenty of Rockbox bugs on his Onda :) |
23:27:25 | funman | bertrik: apparently my Clip crashes everytime I use database or "resume playback" |
23:28:05 | CIA-38 | New commit by amiconn (r21163): Speed up mono bitmap drawing on horizontally packed greyscale targets (greyscale iPods). Average speedup is 80% on PP5002, and 55% on PP502x. * ... |
23:32:07 | mcuelenaere | Unhelpful: yep, I can reconfirm it's l.796 (buflib_buffer_out); I'll look into it |
23:32:36 | mcuelenaere | Unhelpful: does that function gets called elsewhere? |
23:32:42 | mcuelenaere | get* |
23:32:42 | Unhelpful | mcuelenaere: is it possible to trace more closely inside buflib? |
23:32:50 | mcuelenaere | that's what I'm trying to do:) |
23:33:32 | Unhelpful | i believe there are two calls to in, both in create_track_index - one to initially force all free space out of the buflib buffer, the second to do so again after freeing a slide, if the track index runs out of space. |
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23:36:04 | mcuelenaere | Unhelpful: buflib_buffer_shift(ctx, avail); seems to cause the hang (l.206, buflib.c) |
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23:37:16 | * | mcuelenaere suspects the memmove call |
23:37:58 | Bagder | hm, we're now down to 20 build servers |
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23:38:16 | * | mcuelenaere is right |
23:38:30 | mcuelenaere | Unhelpful: l.177 at buflib.c |
23:38:49 | mcuelenaere | I think memcpy == memmove on MIPS targets |
23:38:51 | bertrik | funman, I'll try some things tomorrow |
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23:39:23 | Unhelpful | hrm. is it being called in some invalid fashion, though? zero or negative length, maybe? the buffer shoudln't really *be* empty... |
23:39:26 | funman | Bagder: do you know the rockbox git server is down ? |
23:39:41 | Bagder | now I do! |
23:39:52 | Mikachu | You don't have permission to access / on this server. |
23:40:24 | mcuelenaere | Unhelpful: I'll try with a panicf |
23:40:32 | mcuelenaere | ah no, plugins don't have access to that |
23:40:56 | Bagder | funman: down as in how down? |
23:41:10 | funman | git.rockbox.org[0: 83.168.254.42]: errno=Connection refused |
23:42:53 | Bagder | ls -l /usr/bin/git-daemon |
23:42:53 | Bagder | ls: cannot access /usr/bin/git-daemon: No such file or directory |
23:43:04 | Bagder | can that have anything to do with it? B) |
23:43:09 | funman | sure |
23:43:26 | funman | git now (since several months already) doesn't use git-XX commands, but "git XX" only |
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23:43:50 | funman | that must be why people using svn where seeing a post commit hook failed: "git-push failed" |
23:43:55 | bertrik | funman, stopping playback and restarting it with Resume Playback works here, I'll try it across a reboot |
23:44:14 | bertrik | works across a reboot too |
23:44:14 | Mikachu | git-daemon should still be there, the dashless thing only applies to interface commands |
23:44:15 | Bagder | funman: yes, as it's done in the post commit hook for svn |
23:44:32 | Bagder | Mikachu: I assume the debian package is modified to not provide it anymore or something |
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23:44:42 | Bagder | or possibly zagor just made a mistake or something |
23:44:47 | Mikachu | that said, i could be wrong |
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23:44:58 | Bagder | I'll change it to use the dash-less one |
23:45:35 | funman | hum git-daemon is not part of my git installation, so I'm not sure if it uses the same naming convention |
23:46:06 | Bagder | it does |
23:46:31 | Bagder | at least "git daemon" is there and works |
23:46:35 | mcuelenaere | Unhelpful: rb->memmove(0x80FA37A0, 0x80F0C3B0, 395340); (RAM starts at 0x80004000 and is 16MB long) |
23:46:37 | funman | git server is up, now I guess it will be synced at the next commit |
23:46:52 | Bagder | I'll force a sync, hang on |
23:46:57 | Mikachu | git.rockbox.org still doesn't work, if it should |
23:49:03 | Bagder | hehe, git-push was used as well |
23:49:45 | Mikachu | you can add `git −−exec-path` to $path and dashed commands should work too |
23:49:59 | funman | Bagder: thanks! |
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23:57:47 | mcuelenaere | hmm sorry, memmove != memcpy on MIPS (memcpy is assembler optimised while memmove is the C version) |
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23:58:54 | mcuelenaere | safetydan: hi, what do you think of having bitlib in Lua? |