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00:17:31 | bertrik | funman, still no mp3 playback stops on my clip after moving the stacks to IRAM ... |
00:18:57 | funman | bertrik the playback stop dosen't happen reliabily, but when it happens on a track it will always happen at the same position |
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00:19:52 | notlistening | Fast sapi voicing is now working in Linux and windows :D |
00:20:04 | notlistening | buggy but working |
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00:37:52 | funman | notlistening: nice ! |
00:38:02 | notlistening | hehe love it when you find a bug in someone else's software that you thought was your own :D |
00:38:41 | notlistening | funman, thanks |
00:38:52 | funman | bertrik: using a lcd_write_data with single pixel transfers is slower on the fuze |
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00:40:46 | funman | notlistening: what is buggy : the interface to microsoft SAPI ? |
00:41:51 | notlistening | you'd expect that but the rbutil is causing me a headache or two |
00:42:31 | notlistening | and my code as i just tested :D |
00:43:00 | notlistening | being my interface yes |
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00:43:16 | notlistening | back to the drawing board |
00:44:21 | * | Torne starts pondering trying to implement ncurses on rockbox. |
00:44:57 | gevaerts | that would be *great*! |
00:45:06 | Torne | seriously? :) |
00:45:17 | Torne | i've thought a lot more about what the frotz port needs to really be usable screen-output-wise |
00:45:21 | gevaerts | uhm... |
00:45:35 | Torne | and a lot of what i need to give it to make it work is strikingly similar to what curses does ;) |
00:46:48 | FrankTM_ | ncurses seem interesting :) |
00:47:34 | Torne | i was trying to avoid having to buffer the text on screen by implementing clever framebuffer scrolling stuff |
00:47:49 | Torne | but i've just realised that to put up the keyboard or any kind of menu i'll need a buffer of what was on screen before anyway |
00:48:03 | Torne | and a text buffer with formatting attributes is a lot cheaper than double buffering the framebuffer |
00:48:57 | FrankTM_ | i hope that was not a reply to what i said |
00:49:13 | Torne | hm? |
00:49:26 | FrankTM_ | as i didnt quite understand all of that :p |
00:49:46 | Torne | ah. no, not really. i'm trying to port frotz, the z-machine interpreter |
00:50:05 | Torne | it wants reasonably sophisticated text output capabilites that rockbox doesn't have. |
00:51:27 | FrankTM_ | it would be nice to worry less about how text's gonna come out |
00:51:31 | FrankTM_ | if that's what it does :p |
00:51:48 | Torne | well, ncurses wouldn't be much for pretty output |
00:51:59 | Torne | its api is pretty much limited to monospace |
00:52:11 | FrankTM_ | prettyness is overrated :P |
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00:56:33 | evilnick_7 | Torne: As in the text adventures? |
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00:56:59 | Torne | evilnick_7: yes |
00:57:11 | Torne | it runs very basic z-machine programs at the moment |
00:57:16 | Torne | but i'v enot got any text input or scrolling |
00:57:22 | Torne | so it can't run actual games ;) |
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00:59:00 | evilnick_7 | Games would be a bit of a stretch in terms of inputting text (except on touchscreen targets) though :p |
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00:59:41 | Torne | yah. there are various hacks that can be used to make it more practical, like on gbafrotz |
00:59:53 | Torne | ways to pick words from printed text, and pull commands from menus |
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01:00:11 | Torne | but the main intention is for me to then write an Inform library replacement for menu driven games |
01:00:24 | Torne | the z-machine is just a convenient portable target format to compile to |
01:00:29 | Torne | saves me inventing a game development system :) |
01:02:32 | Torne | also it's just fun to do. i like the z-machine. and having a z-machine interpreter is what qualifies a platform as a real computer ;) |
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01:03:41 | evilnick_7 | Hehehe, nice. Best of luck with that :) |
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01:31:20 | funman | someone has a c200v1 and want to run test_fps with a patch ? |
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01:43:28 | funman | http://pastie.org/515822 |
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02:29:17 | pixelma | errr... someone with a Recorder around who could test for the existence of a bug in a recent build? |
02:29:54 | JdGordon| | whats the bug? i can check when i get home |
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02:32:35 | pixelma | (note: have to test this on an even more recent build still, r21175 here) - it's about the "keys locked/unlocked" splash in the WPS. Pressing the combo to lock will show the splash which won't go away though, pressing the combo again to unlock I get the apropriate splash which won't go away either and buttons still seem to be locked |
02:32:57 | pixelma | I can only get out with a hard power off |
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02:38:15 | pixelma | or maybe at the end of playlist |
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02:52:48 | pixelma | still happens on the Ondio with r21322 and I think that's quite a serious bug, thinking about the release... |
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02:53:57 | JdGordon| | is this a new bug? or something thats always been there? |
02:54:45 | pixelma | it's new to me (and my guess it has something to do with the viewportification of splashes) |
02:56:50 | pixelma | but I don't have time to investigate further now... at almost 3 AM |
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04:59:04 | webguest57 | hello i need some help |
04:59:29 | webguest57 | i don't know how to add songs on my ipod |
04:59:44 | cool_walking_ | ...your iPod running Rockbox? |
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05:01:08 | webguest57 | i don't know how to add songs to my ipod |
05:01:50 | webguest57 | anybody help? |
05:02:21 | webguest57 | yes |
05:02:31 | webguest57 | yes |
05:02:52 | webguest57 | yes |
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05:56:10 | saratoga | could the problem with trying to run the Fuze with 2MB of RAM be that the IRAM isn't mapped into the same place on the 8MB targets? |
05:56:33 | saratoga | i wonder if the MMU doesn't change where the IRAM ends up on the Fuze if theres less memory enabled |
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08:50:17 | lee321987 | I'm trying to install LaTeX on Ubuntu. Can I use any of the .deb packages from the RB VMware image, or maybe the .tar.bz2 files that Cygwin used to install it? |
08:51:53 | scorche|sh | why dont you install the ubuntu packages? |
08:52:04 | lee321987 | Dial-up connection |
08:52:48 | scorche|sh | so it takes a little bit longer... |
08:53:26 | lee321987 | Yep. Looks like that's how I have to do it. |
08:53:42 | Llorean | If you've got the VMWare image for some reason, why not just do any manual creation within it, so you can be sure everything's already set up right? |
08:57:06 | lee321987 | I didn't see any "tetex-*" .deb packages in var/apt/archives. Maybe Debian comes with Latex built-in? I'll see if it builds. |
08:57:19 | scorche|sh | no it doesnt... |
08:58:24 | Llorean | Aren't the archives cleared in the image to decrease size? |
08:58:49 | scorche|sh | yes |
08:58:51 | lee321987 | I saw 20 or so .deb packs |
08:59:13 | scorche|sh | at least the older ("current") one...i still need to whittle down the "new" one down to size.. |
08:59:33 | Llorean | lee321987: So some are still there, but that doesn't mean they all are. |
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09:00:44 | pixelma | so - is now someone with a Recorder (fairly recent build) around to test for a bug? |
09:03:21 | * | Llorean can't find his recorder USB cable. =/ |
09:08:50 | pixelma | Llorean: what's the build rev currently on your Recorder? |
09:09:46 | Llorean | Pre 3.0 I think |
09:09:47 | Llorean | BBL |
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09:14:26 | * | pixelma wishes there was a "Commits since 3.2" |
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09:22:06 | pixelma | does someone have the revision number the 3.2 release is based off at hand? |
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09:24:59 | lee321987 | Does RB VMware have something similar to Ubuntus' "Synaptic Package Manager"? |
09:25:43 | perrikwp | use apt-get |
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09:28:06 | Zagor | pixelma: tag v3_2 or revision 20506 |
09:28:22 | Zagor | we'll do a since32.html tomorrow |
09:28:45 | Zagor | tags are listed here: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/tags/ |
09:29:44 | pixelma | ah, thanks. It helps me searching for a bug... :) |
09:32:35 | perrikwp | lee321987: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualHowto shows how to download everything you need to build a manual |
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09:33:12 | lee321987 | Thanks. I'm trying to find a file manager. |
09:34:07 | lee321987 | Can anyone suggest a file manager for the RB VM that won't need to download a lot of dependencies? |
09:34:34 | scorche|sh | why do you need a file manager?....and this isnt really on topic here... |
09:34:54 | lee321987 | less typing |
09:35:03 | lee321987 | drag and drop |
09:36:38 | scorche|sh | the rockbox VM is intended to be used with samba for communication between your host and the VM...you can use your host's OS as the file manager if you *really* wanted to |
09:37:41 | lee321987 | ok. Thanks |
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09:52:58 | CIA-70 | New commit by dave (r21323): Revert r21307 - it was not an agreed change and should never have been committed. See discussion at ... |
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10:04:43 | BlindWanderer | Hello |
10:05:01 | linuxstb | Good morning. |
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10:06:02 | BlindWanderer | Ahh good, a lurker. I'm looking for someone who can put me in the user group who can edit the TWiki |
10:06:38 | linuxstb | What is your name? |
10:07:02 | BlindWanderer | BlindWanderer, I like to be consistant |
10:07:14 | linuxstb | You didn't read the rules for the wiki when registering? |
10:07:47 | linuxstb | "Your WikiName must be your real first and last name concatenated, like JohnSmith or SteveAnderson. It's not JohnS, SteveA or NinjaBoy. We will delete your registration without notice if you break this rule." |
10:08:13 | BlindWanderer | Ahh, well then please delete it. |
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10:09:30 | pixelma | speaking of which, someone just appended a new name again and not put it in alphabetical order... looks like it was saratoga |
10:10:37 | * | scorche|sh gets out the pitchforks |
10:11:35 | BlindWanderer | Is the issue with UserListByDateJoined, known? |
10:11:41 | pixelma | well, it's for malking things easier later on (and it's easier to avoid duplicates) |
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10:13:36 | * | gevaerts still wants to know if you're allowed to split lines in that list |
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10:14:12 | linuxstb | gevaerts: I think I asked Zagor that, and the answer was no. But feel free to investigate... |
10:14:30 | scorche|sh | until he changes it and can no longer edit anything... |
10:14:36 | gevaerts | exactly :) |
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10:14:57 | * | gevaerts tends to have chicken-like features every now and then |
10:15:10 | Zagor | no we can't. it's a twiki limitation. foswiki has a better solution in the pipe. |
10:15:35 | notlistening | what architectures does rockbox support now? Is it just arm coldfire and MIPS |
10:15:35 | scorche|sh | are we planning to go to foswiki at some point? |
10:15:51 | Zagor | yes |
10:15:52 | scorche|sh | notlistening: sh |
10:16:06 | notlistening | whats sh? |
10:16:22 | Llorean | sh1 |
10:16:49 | linuxstb | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperH |
10:17:07 | notlistening | Thanks ;) |
10:17:22 | linuxstb | As used in all our Archos targets. |
10:20:11 | notlistening | is it still being used? |
10:20:32 | Zagor | archos or sh1? |
10:21:46 | notlistening | s1 |
10:21:49 | notlistening | sh1 |
10:22:06 | linuxstb | That wikipedia page seems to imply that the SH-1 is discontinued. I don't know if that's true though... |
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10:23:00 | Zagor | it's very old. I don't see why anyone would use it for new designs. |
10:24:10 | pixelma | ok, r20661 breaks the software lock splash - (there's one related change, line 326) and it's IMO important to fix before the release because it can lead to being trapped into the software lock (at least I can't find out how to get out of it unless hard powering off) |
10:24:52 | BlindWanderer | I'm curious, how was the current wiki engine chosen? |
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10:25:38 | Zagor | BlindWanderer: I was simply familiar with it before starting Rockbox |
10:25:54 | gevaerts | pixelma: I think that's a real blocker. I don't really see a realistic "leave out" or "disable" solution for this one |
10:26:52 | lee321987 | RB VM - trying to install new version of "VMware Tools". VMware says to "delete the previous vmware-tools-distrib directory before installing". Where is this directory? |
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10:28:45 | BlindWanderer | (thats a good reason; wiki engines can be a pain to setup and the syntax can be weird) |
10:30:57 | notlistening | A unit that is running android will that potentially run rockbox |
10:31:20 | scorche|sh | well, anything can *potentially* run rockbox, but that doesnt mean it will be easy.. |
10:32:00 | Zagor | the good thing about it running android is that it's probably easier to find information about the hardware |
10:32:02 | scorche|sh | the biggest issue with android is that it accepts java apps...rockbox is in C |
10:32:21 | scorche|sh | (assuming you are referring to rockbox as an app) |
10:32:41 | notlistening | no i am talking pure hardware |
10:33:09 | * | scorche|sh wonders why someone would want to replace a phone OS with a music player OS |
10:34:35 | notlistening | IMHO there is no need to run a full OS when you can dual boot and use to unit as a dedicated MP3/4 player right ? * when you have a device not being used as a phone |
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10:35:34 | notlistening | scorche, humm yeah i am not sure there is any point in running it fi there is no phone involved |
10:35:40 | Zagor | notlistening: sure. it's just that I would guess most people who buy an android phone will want to use it as a phone _with_ media player. not purely a media player |
10:35:49 | notlistening | android i mean |
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10:38:54 | BlindWanderer | I don't see why it couldn't be done, I just can't imagine a developer wanting to take on the project. The advantage of already having a functional OS is you don't have to develop and debug a new one |
10:39:35 | BlindWanderer | would be easier to just build ontop of Android then to usurp it's position |
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10:55:09 | pixelma | uh, made it work - completely trial and error puttong stuff back from the previous revision (and I don't know what r 20661 was supposed to solve there) |
10:55:16 | pixelma | putting too |
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11:06:45 | pixelma | http://rockbox.pastebin.ca/1464637 if someone would be so kind to have a look |
11:07:06 | pixelma | (small typo fix included too) |
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11:09:46 | Mikachu | unrelated, /* fix the bug */ is not a very helpful comment :) |
11:10:38 | wren | hi, my name is wren murasaki, i just joined the wiki. i'd like to document the lua plugin api; i'm really excited about it |
11:12:02 | FrankTM_ | hi wren |
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11:12:22 | FrankTM_ | hmm.. this starts to look like some AA-meeting :P |
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11:13:46 | * | wren stands up, "hi, it's been 30 minutes since I last read some code and I have the shakes" |
11:14:04 | FrankTM_ | lol |
11:14:23 | FrankTM_ | but i guess you're more than welcome to contribute to the wiki |
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11:15:49 | pixelma | wren: you should be good to go now... promise not to spam ;) |
11:16:59 | wren | spamming's dull, figuring out how to best format it will be a challenge; not to mention spotting all the functions in the source. |
11:17:10 | wren | and i promise not to spam |
11:17:50 | pixelma | nice, have fun :) |
11:20:07 | linuxstb | wren: Isn't the "lua plugin api" just the same as the Rockbox plugin API? i.e. the documentation should be the same? |
11:22:02 | wren | right now the page just say "This is a placeholder. " under API |
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11:35:20 | safetydan | linuxstb: it doesn't have to be if there's a more luaish way of doing it |
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11:38:49 | Matt-W | If a 5.5G iPod is running 3.2 and plugged into a PC via USB while holding down menu to suppress disk mode, would it be expected to charge the battery? From what I can gather, Rockbox's USB mode should be disabled in that build, so it should do so. |
11:39:28 | gevaerts | there are issues with charging from USB on ipods |
11:40:09 | Mikachu | just look if the battery charge is going up or down :) |
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11:40:56 | Matt-W | It seems to be going down :( |
11:41:55 | Matt-W | It says it's charging, but the battery level doesn't agree |
11:42:34 | Matt-W | Think I'll have to revert to the old build I was using where it worked if there are known issues in 3.2 |
11:48:02 | Llorean | Matt-W: 3.2 has been out for three months now. |
11:48:22 | Llorean | 3.2 should have the same charging behaviour as any build from about the past year or so. |
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11:51:45 | mcuelenaere | rasher: do you mind if I commit some of the changes currently on the theme server to SVN? |
11:54:13 | rasher | mcuelenaere: absolutely not |
11:54:47 | gevaerts | rasher: are there still language updates in trunk that are not in 3.3? |
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11:56:16 | rasher | I don't think so, except for the pitchscreen stuff, which unfortunately went in before the release, complicating the language situation somewhat |
11:56:35 | rasher | There's a french translation in the tracker. I was hoping moos would look at it |
11:56:45 | pixelma | I have one pending... wanted to give the patch author time to tell us his full name (although I redid almost entirely anyways). It's not in trunk yet either though |
11:57:13 | rasher | Don't think I'll have the time to commit that, so if someone else would, please do so |
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12:03:33 | * | mcuelenaere wonders whether we should pre-load the rollover images |
12:08:39 | pixelma | isn't that a bit unfriendly for people on slow connections (and who won't hover over every available theme)? |
12:11:37 | mcuelenaere | yes, that's the disadvantage |
12:12:01 | mcuelenaere | but there's no visual interaction currently when you mouse over an image that it's loading another image |
12:13:29 | safetydan | could you have a "loading..." image preloaded that shows up on mouse over and then is replaced with the actual image? |
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12:21:31 | CIA-70 | New commit by mcuelenaere (r21324): Commit some changes that were already in the actual theme site server. |
12:23:11 | mcuelenaere | safetydan: that should be doable |
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12:23:40 | linuxstb | mcuelenaere: Shouldn't commit messages actually say _what_ the changes were? ;) |
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12:24:10 | * | gevaerts agrees with linuxstb |
12:30:05 | funman | "left as an exercise to the reader" |
12:31:16 | funman | could someone with a c200v1 run test_fps with http://pastie.org/515822 ? |
12:32:07 | pixelma | Llorean: still around? |
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12:38:33 | Llorean | pixelma: Yes |
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12:39:29 | lee321987 | RB VM - How to run "xedit" text editor from command line? I'm guessing there is a second program installed called "xedit", because when I try type "xedit" I get 'Xlib: connection to ":0.0" fefused by server' |
12:39:58 | tmzt | what instructions are these? |
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12:41:03 | pixelma | Llorean: just noticed that dreamlayers reverted the hack fix by JdGordon I had committed for the insert shuffled problem in r 20641 as it seems to cause other problems (I meantioned the hack last week but hadn't realised it was already reverted) |
12:42:05 | pixelma | the revert was r20641... somehow that sentence became quite twisted... |
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12:43:34 | Llorean | Ah, was that the insert shuffled problem I was experiencing? |
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12:45:47 | pixelma | I thought you were experiencing the same as I did before r19723 |
12:46:22 | pixelma | but I am not sure now |
12:46:55 | Llorean | If I stop and resume, the songs are in the same order and I'm playing the same song, but it has an entirely different position in the playlist. |
12:47:08 | Llorean | Song 1 might be song 800, song 2 will be 801, song three 3 will be 802, etc. |
12:47:20 | Llorean | What was previously song 1, I mean |
12:48:17 | pixelma | I guess this is with a revision after 20641 though... there seems to be something fishy :\ |
12:48:57 | Llorean | Last time I verified that was with a build a couple weeks ago |
12:49:07 | Llorean | Much newer than 20641. I haven't tested recently but I don't remember a fix going in. |
12:49:54 | Llorean | Happens with a the 4 day old build on my Nano, still |
12:50:15 | Llorean | Very easy to duplicate. Stop playback, pick a folder, "Insert Shuffled", stop, resume, see where you are in the playlist. |
12:50:50 | pixelma | if you want to you could try something between 19732 and 20641 that would be with the hack fix... |
12:51:30 | pixelma | but it didn't fix all problems as it seems :\ |
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12:52:04 | Llorean | From the commit note, it sounds like the fix caused other problems? |
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12:52:14 | Llorean | It almost sounds like it caused a problem like the one I'm describing |
12:53:30 | mcuelenaere | linuxstb: hmm yes, probably.. :) |
12:54:28 | pixelma | Llorean: yes, very weird |
12:55:23 | pixelma | nothing happened since then though, so... |
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13:01:58 | simjoko | anyone with experience on sansa e2x0? |
13:03:03 | scorche | simjoko: if you have an actual question, it is typically better to just ask that question right out |
13:03:16 | simjoko | I'll go that then :) |
13:04:55 | simjoko | do* // ok, I've got a new sansa e260(v1), rockbox is up and running. I want to use this new bought 8g microSDHC card. windows and linux both report the slot, but don't recognize the media. do I need to format the card with a card reader before I can use it? |
13:06:17 | Llorean | Which build of Rockbox are you using? |
13:07:06 | simjoko | sec |
13:07:42 | simjoko | had the problem with 3.2 and svn r21323 |
13:08:48 | Llorean | What filesystem is the card formatted with? Can you browse it and move files to it in Rockbox? |
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13:09:15 | simjoko | no, that's exactly the problem I have. |
13:09:36 | simjoko | If I had a card reader, I could check if the card is formatted out of the box |
13:09:36 | Llorean | Not from your computer. From within Rockbox. |
13:10:11 | simjoko | no, if I go to system information and hot-plug the card, Rockbox tells me it checks the disks and then tells there's none present |
13:10:57 | Llorean | Please use the exact names of the things in Rockbox you're looking at. |
13:11:23 | Llorean | I can't tell if you mean a specific menu in Rockbox, and are just calling it something slightly wrong, or if you and I are still talking about different things |
13:12:05 | simjoko | the thing is, rockbox does not recognize the card when plugged in |
13:12:21 | simjoko | inside the player and also in usb mode |
13:12:37 | simjoko | and there is no way to check if the card is already formatted |
13:12:57 | Llorean | Well then there's really nothing we can tell you, since you apparently can't find out any information about the card to use to figure out what's wrong. |
13:13:49 | simjoko | I guess I'll head for the shop then and buy a card reader. shouldn't be that expensive. |
13:13:55 | Llorean | Most cards should come formatted and ready to use. |
13:14:03 | Llorean | It may be that there's simply something wrong with your card or your player. |
13:15:51 | Llorean | As well, formatted or not, with a current build of Rockbox your PC should see the card (and you should be able to format it from your PC) |
13:16:08 | notlistening | simjoko, where you from? |
13:16:14 | simjoko | germany |
13:16:40 | simjoko | darn, I want it to work :P |
13:16:56 | notlistening | does the V1 support 8GB cards? |
13:17:12 | Llorean | notlistening: In Rockbox, yes. |
13:17:19 | simjoko | v1 does not support sdhc at all, but rb does |
13:17:23 | simjoko | what he said |
13:18:23 | notlistening | you can pick up a card reader on mazon for about 8 euros |
13:18:31 | notlistening | amazon |
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13:18:47 | notlistening | but i an not sure thats your problem |
13:18:50 | simjoko | amazon also tells the card should have been preformatted with fat32 |
13:19:04 | notlistening | I use sandisk media and that works straight away |
13:21:05 | simjoko | let's see what the card reader will tell. bbl |
13:22:01 | linuxstb | simjoko: When you connect to your PC, are you using Rockbox's USB mode, or Sandisk's? |
13:22:28 | simjoko | rockbox's, as sandisk's wouldn't make much sense without support for microSDHC |
13:22:58 | linuxstb | OK, just making sure... |
13:23:07 | simjoko | :) |
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13:36:31 | simjoko | works now, guess what, I failed to put the card properly into the player -.- emberassing, for my excuse, it's the first time I've got anything to do with such cards |
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13:53:10 | Casainho | hello Rockbox hakers ;-) |
13:53:41 | Casainho | can anyone tell me if an ARM7 at 70MHz would run Rockbox and decode all the codecs? |
13:55:29 | Llorean | That's slower than the iPods, and those struggle under some conditions. |
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13:55:54 | Llorean | As well, it will be poor for video, and have no significant future since DSP and such will require even more CPU |
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13:59:05 | kugel | pixelma: what did I break? |
13:59:48 | kugel | "software lock splash"? |
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14:04:45 | Casainho | Llorean: ok, thanks. Then I think I will try an ARM9 on LPQF (0,5mm pitch) |
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14:16:45 | linuxstb | Casainho: I thought you had chosen a CPU a long time ago? Why the change? |
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14:21:00 | Casainho | linuxstb: I made a prototype with ARM9 with pins pitch 0,5mm. Now I was thinking in the possibility of making and selling the hardware and for that I need larger pitch as possible on ICs. That's why I was lokking for ARM7, because some of them have larger than 0,5mm pitch. |
14:21:04 | pixelma | kugel: the splash that is shown on the targets with software hold. The splash appears for a short time if you enable or disable hold or press a button while hold is enabled. Currently the splash won't go away after enabling and even disabling - although it changes to the "unlocked" string when disabling |
14:21:35 | pixelma | what's worse though is that the keys stay locked and I can't fet out of the WPS |
14:22:10 | Casainho | linuxstb: do you see this board http://code.google.com/p/armopendous/ ? it's Open Hardware but on BGA and the guy is having some problems put it working, and the PCB is expensive of 4 layers. |
14:22:11 | pixelma | the partial revert of r20661 as shown in the paste works, I just want to know if it has negative side effects |
14:23:23 | kugel | you mean if you change the restore ? HZ/100:HZ/5 back? |
14:24:22 | pixelma | that doesn't work alone, I need the ACTION_REDRAW too |
14:24:53 | kugel | action redraw alone doesn't work? |
14:25:03 | kugel | I'm not sure why the bug happens |
14:25:33 | linuxstb | Casainho: OK, I was just wondering what was wrong with the prototype... |
14:25:55 | kugel | how does software lock work? |
14:25:56 | pixelma | maybe it would, haven't tried (just reverted bits that looked related one after the other) |
14:26:12 | Casainho | linuxstb: the wrong is that I can't find no one that wants to produce and sell it, so, I must do that by myself. |
14:27:24 | Casainho | linuxstb: and then I must do it at my home, a bit of DIY, using the technology that I can use, like larger pitch pins to solder, etc. |
14:27:26 | pixelma | kugel: you enable it with a certain key combo from the WPS and use the same combo to disable it. That also works in the sim btw. |
14:30:01 | pixelma | and this bug needs a quick fix for the release |
14:30:25 | * | gevaerts wonders if kugel saw his mail to the ML |
14:30:40 | kugel | gevaerts: yes |
14:30:49 | kugel | changing the default value is a trivial thing though |
14:31:48 | kugel | anyway, I can't code right now. pixelma, can you try if ACTION_REDRAW alone works (and if not, replacing the HZ/100 with HZ/50 or 25)? |
14:32:06 | gevaerts | kugel: if nobody has done it by tonight, I guess I'll have a go |
14:33:00 | pixelma | kugel: yes, I'm on it |
14:34:13 | Casainho | I wish I could go to DevConEuro 2009 :-) |
14:36:37 | gevaerts | Casainho: there's a guaranteed way to make sure DevCon is close to you : organise it! |
14:37:18 | Casainho | gevaerts: oh, no, I am not yet involved on Rockbox for making it. |
14:38:00 | Casainho | If I had a working hardware and could sell to others, I am sure I would go, to give others the hardware and take some hours toghterer |
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14:38:21 | Casainho | who knows if next year? :-) |
14:39:22 | pixelma | kugel: just reverting the ACTION_REDRAW part seems to do |
14:40:36 | kugel | I guessed that (at least for the not-disappearing-splash) |
14:42:40 | kugel | it seems "ffwd_rew(button); /* hopefully fix the ffw/rwd bug */" line doesn't work too well with softlock |
14:43:03 | kugel | pixelma: reverting the ACTION_REDRAW case should be fine without side-effects |
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14:46:12 | pixelma | I'll commit that then to both branches. And will also commit the German language update I did myself, since it doesn't look like the patch author will give his full name in the last few hours (he already had a few days) |
14:46:19 | kugel | you could try to do "wps_state.do_full_update = true;" instead of "restore = true;" though |
14:47:21 | pixelma | I also like mine better in most parts, but well could be biased ;) |
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14:59:06 | pixelma | that works too... but the "stay in software lock mode after playlist has finished but let the user chose a new song and reenable lock upon entering the WPS again" trick doesn't work anymore. But I don't think that has anything to do with this fix and is not critical |
14:59:17 | pixelma | ^ kugel |
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15:02:15 | pixelma | to be precise, it still works for the first part, so lock is disabled when dropping back to the file browser/menu from the WPS at playlist end. It's only that it stays disabled, so doesn't bother me much |
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15:12:51 | kugel | was this trick intentional? |
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15:13:34 | pixelma | yes, and very convenient |
15:14:08 | kugel | I'm not sure if that's related though |
15:15:09 | kugel | or does that trick work with restore = true? |
15:15:51 | pixelma | ah, it still works, just the WPS doesn't show the locked status correctly when reentering... but after you press a button and the "keys locked" splash appears it's there again |
15:15:59 | pixelma | need to try |
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15:16:55 | kugel | " just the WPS doesn't show the locked status correctly when reentering" that worked before? I didn't remove a splash |
15:17:43 | pixelma | no, not the splash, but the status you can show with %mh or in the statusbar |
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15:19:00 | pixelma | and I can't tell when exactly it broke, but it worked once |
15:21:16 | kugel | ok, so the "wps_state.do_full_update = true;" version should go in, the resulting code path is *slightly* less complex |
15:22:26 | kugel | now I understand that "yes are locked just redraw" comment there :) |
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15:31:46 | pixelma | the "restore" version is not any better about the hold status when entering the WPS again (and also the statusbar is wrong there too)... so I take the last version |
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15:37:28 | pixelma | something else to check my translation: do I understand correctly that the "Absolute Point" option in the touchscreen mode setting is for enabling the mode where you directly "touch" the menu item etc.? |
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15:39:54 | kugel | yes |
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15:48:13 | funman | I can't find any reference to GPIOC in the c200v2 OF, except in lcd code when setting GPIOC_AFSEL, and one simple read of pin C1 in init code |
15:48:33 | funman | i grepped the firmware and the library blocks |
15:50:15 | CIA-70 | New commit by pixelma (r21325): Restore the ACTION_REDRAW case as it was before r20661 (with a slight change as suggested by Thomas Martitz). Without it you could get trapped in the ... |
15:53:45 | CIA-70 | New commit by pixelma (r21326): Restore the ACTION_REDRAW case as it was before r20661 (with a slight change as suggested by Thomas Martitz). Without it you could get trapped in the ... |
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15:56:50 | CIA-70 | New commit by pixelma (r21327): Update German translation. |
15:57:10 | CIA-70 | New commit by pixelma (r21328): Update German translation. |
15:58:50 | pixelma | if I didn't use the patch in the tracker, should I close the task as "rejected"? (no full real name given) |
15:59:50 | gevaerts | I'd say out of date or something like that |
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16:00:35 | gevaerts | Does http://pastie.org/516374 look correct for the natsort default update? |
16:01:34 | kugel | yes |
16:02:44 | CIA-70 | New commit by gevaerts (r21329): Make ASCII sort the default for the release |
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16:10:18 | Hillshum | LambdaCalculus37: I'll send the money your way when I get home |
16:10:30 | Hillshum | Sorry, wrong channel |
16:12:20 | FrankTM_ | money? :P |
16:13:09 | LambdaCalculus37 | FrankTM_: For a DAP purchase. But it's for the other channel. |
16:13:53 | FrankTM_ | hehe |
16:15:53 | funman | oh rockbox react to buttons on c200v2 ! |
16:16:10 | Hillshum | cool |
16:16:13 | funman | problem was button_read_device() always returned a button press, so perhaps rockbox was stuck in a very long press |
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16:23:29 | gevaerts | RC builds at http://files.hostname.be/3.3RC/ updated |
16:24:20 | funman | rockbox says a SI4700 tuner is detected on the c200v2 but i'm not sure if I can trust it |
16:25:51 | funman | 56kb of audiobuffer :/ |
16:26:25 | funman | pcm buffer stays at 0 |
16:26:59 | kugel | huh? |
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16:28:58 | funman | hum buffering thread debug says alloc : 0/56448 but rockbox.map says 664440 bytes |
16:29:11 | Zagor | funman: heh, that sounds a bit low |
16:29:25 | funman | there is some problem in linking |
16:31:17 | kugel | 56k should be enough for everyone |
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16:34:58 | notlistening | does rockbox now come under the MP5 player category? |
16:35:34 | scorche|sh | huh? |
16:37:07 | funman | ok the tuner is a si4700 - but it doesn't work just like the e200v2 |
16:37:31 | Zagor | surely with doom it's at least mp8? |
16:38:10 | funman | sound works |
16:38:29 | funman | not the volume keys though :P |
16:39:31 | funman | and not the microsd |
16:40:18 | notlistening | Zagor, i agree with that but the lack of bluetooth support etc might make it a 4.5 |
16:40:45 | gevaerts | notlistening: point me to a player that plays mp5 files |
16:40:59 | Hillshum | Don't forget rockboy! That bumps it to at least 5 |
16:41:26 | notlistening | lol it is marketing hype sorry gevaerts |
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16:41:53 | kugel | funman: one debug page shows gpio pins, that should show the msd pin |
16:42:08 | notlistening | basucally mobile phones with out the phone being marketed as mp5 players |
16:42:18 | funman | kugel: thanks |
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16:43:11 | funman | A2 is unset when there is a microsd |
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16:43:41 | funman | looks like the same than e200v2 and fuze |
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16:45:23 | Zagor | funman: isn't audiobuffer both the pcm and compressed buffers? |
16:45:48 | Zagor | I've forgotten... |
16:47:26 | funman | Zagor: i think you are right, but the pcm buffer is 176k (1s) so the addition still doesn't match |
16:47:27 | LambdaCalculus37 | notlistening: Tell us more in the other channel. |
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17:06:10 | CIA-70 | New commit by funman (r21330): Sansa c200v2 : support more hardware ... |
17:07:21 | funman | very intersting .. the c200v2 seems to show the same problem than the clip |
17:10:37 | funman | (.audiobufend - .audiobuf) = 660748 bytes, pcmbuf is 1second = 176400 bytes, 660748 - 176400 = 484348 bytes, and buffering thread shows alloc: */52572 |
17:11:16 | funman | 52572 being 'filebuflen' |
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17:12:29 | funman | which is audiobufend - filebuf, filebuf being malloc_buf being audiobuf + talk_get_bufsize(), so perhaps talk_get_bufsize() is quite big |
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17:12:57 | funman | should be 0 if i don't use voices :o |
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17:17:45 | notlistening | domonoky, are you on windows or linuc or both can you look at some strange bahaviour in the rubutil when it is talking with my SAPI interface? |
17:18:58 | domonoky | notlistening: normally i am on windows. but i can use Linux on my Laptop. But now i am preparing my journey to Devcon tomorrow, so maybe later ? |
17:19:24 | notlistening | yeah anytime |
17:20:06 | notlistening | i will post the relevant instructions and stuff on the task in flyspray |
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17:30:02 | notlistening | domonoky, have fun at devcon |
17:30:43 | domonoky | :-) |
17:31:56 | Genesis | ld failed on bootloader.elf due to fpa instruction |
17:32:20 | Genesis | i read on mailing list we didn't need cross compiler with mfpu set to fpa |
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17:36:09 | Llorean | Genesis: What are you trying to compile for? |
17:36:28 | Genesis | cowon D2 ( arm926e-js ) |
17:37:15 | Llorean | Did you use our script to set up the cross-compilers? |
17:37:39 | Genesis | no i was trying with crossdev , i try with the script oki |
17:37:52 | Genesis | i should find the right option with it |
17:39:33 | Genesis | "ERROR: This script is set to install in /usr/local but has no write permissions for it'" |
17:39:46 | Genesis | this have chocked me earlier :} |
17:40:09 | saratogahome | you probbaly needed to run as root |
17:40:27 | Hillshum | I've always needed root |
17:40:40 | saratogahome | either way you haven't setup your cross compiler correctly and its not generating the right arm code |
17:41:50 | Genesis | i atempt to make a rockbox target in openembedded |
17:50:40 | saratogahome | have you tried rerunning our script as root? it should give you the right compiler |
17:51:55 | Genesis | i first try setting variable directory |
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18:04:26 | Genesis | $ ranlib rockbox/build/firmware/libfirmware.a |
18:04:30 | Genesis | $ make |
18:04:51 | Genesis | arm-elf-objcopy: /home/genesis/hwsupport/cowon_D2/rockbox/build/bootloader.elf: File format not recognized |
18:05:00 | Genesis | anybody cross this ? |
18:05:07 | gevaerts | which toolchain is this? |
18:05:31 | Genesis | from rockbox script |
18:05:38 | domonoky | if you still use the wrong toolchain (ie not build with rockboxdev.sh) this is to be expected :-) |
18:05:57 | Genesis | this is with the rockboxdev.sh this time |
18:06:00 | Genesis | ;-) |
18:06:06 | gevaerts | have you re-run configure? |
18:06:24 | Genesis | yes |
18:06:29 | domonoky | and make sure the new gcc/binutils are first (or alone) in the path |
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18:07:41 | Genesis | oh binutils perharps oki |
18:07:58 | Genesis | that's right |
18:08:40 | Genesis | any other idea ? |
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18:12:01 | GodEater | uninstall crossdev |
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18:22:33 | Genesis | ho it's differente if i uninstall crossdev |
18:22:46 | Genesis | LD bootloader.elf |
18:22:46 | Genesis | /home/genesis/hwsupport/cowon_D2/rockbox/build/bootloader/common.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized |
18:22:53 | Genesis | i searsh :) |
18:24:49 | GodEater | my advice now is, having uninstalled crossdev, to re-run rockboxdev.sh |
18:24:59 | Llorean | And create a new build folder. |
18:25:15 | Genesis | i make clean and configure each time |
18:25:25 | Genesis | you mean redo the cross tool chain oki |
18:25:31 | Genesis | let's try |
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18:33:44 | notlistening | domonoky, what linux are you using just thinking of instructions |
18:34:08 | domonoky | ubuntu |
18:34:28 | notlistening | makes my life easier what version? |
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18:37:17 | funman | saratogahome: could you build & run a fuze with 2MB of memory |
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18:39:32 | saratogahome2 | funman: no i could not |
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18:42:40 | saratogahome2 | i was fairly sick last night so i didn't look into it very closely |
18:43:01 | saratogahome2 | but fixing the codec size define moved the codecs around in memory but didn't fix the problem |
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18:43:45 | saratogahome2 | i think i was wondering if the MMU didn't remap the IRAM correctly with the define changed |
18:45:17 | r0b- | my e250 says v2 on the back but its running v1 firmware :| |
18:47:08 | LambdaCalculus37 | r0b-: That would be a refurbished Sansa, then. SanDisk has been known to do that (use parts from one series on the other). |
18:47:24 | LambdaCalculus37 | That's why we always say the best way to determine what model you have is to check the firmware version. |
18:47:45 | funman | saratogahome2: it uses MEMORYSIZE so it should be ok |
18:48:17 | funman | r0b-: refurbished? |
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18:49:01 | r0b- | yea |
18:51:34 | r0b- | its a refurb |
18:54:06 | saratogahome2 | i'll look into it further tonight |
18:54:08 | funman | saratogahome2: the c200v2 puts light on a buffer problem, and the framebuffer is smaller than fuze so perhaps it wouldn't fit |
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18:54:12 | funman | i would try with 3MB |
18:54:39 | funman | i'll try to find will to look at this further this evening |
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19:27:20 | LambdaCalculus37 | rasher: What are the FS#'s for the French and Hebrew translations? |
19:28:15 | Genesis | linuxstb, : i've the 140e:b011 in usb, what it means ? |
19:28:40 | LambdaCalculus37 | Genesis: That's the VendorID and ProductID. |
19:28:42 | Genesis | Bus 002 Device 009: ID 140e:b011 Telechips, Inc. TCC780X-based player (USB Boot mode) |
19:28:55 | saratoga | funman: I suppose I'll need to change the MEMORY <= 2 defines as well? |
19:29:20 | Genesis | LambdaCalculus37, : of course |
19:29:20 | Genesis | "If it shows as 140e:b011, then let me know - tcctool won't work if that's the case." |
19:29:20 | Genesis | ( http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?action=printpage%3Btopic=10164.0 ) |
19:29:27 | funman | saratoga: ah right :P |
19:29:46 | funman | perhaps the framebuffer can fit in the 2MB of DRAM i am not sure |
19:30:03 | funman | or you could disable features (tagcache, AA, jpeg ..) until it links |
19:30:26 | funman | or FM, etc .. just trim the config-fuze.h until it builds, and put the framebuffer in dram |
19:30:35 | saratoga | before it would link, just not run :) |
19:30:43 | Genesis | so i let linuxstb know but i don't know what to do with this :} |
19:30:53 | saratoga | with 3MB but no other changes some codecs fail to link, fixing that, I get sane values in the buffering screen but no playback |
19:31:17 | saratoga | using e200v2 btw |
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19:44:03 | funman | how sane ? did you try several tracks? |
19:44:12 | funman | and power off / resume playback |
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19:47:18 | funman | audiobufend = 0x61632023 on c200v2 .. |
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19:56:27 | saratoga | well sane as in non-negative :) |
19:56:32 | vekin_ | hi, i read the faq and it says to check the firmware version when identifying a sansa player.. i have a fuze and the version is 01.10.15A but i do not know how to tell if it is a c200 or e200 |
19:57:12 | funman | vekin_: it's a fuze |
19:57:27 | evilnick_7 | c200 and e200 are totally different players |
19:57:30 | vekin_ | ah ok |
19:57:32 | vekin_ | i wasn't clear |
19:57:36 | vekin_ | thanks |
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20:00:04 | rasher | LambdaCalculus37: FS #10300, FS #10299 |
20:01:39 | funman | anything blocking the release ? |
20:02:01 | LambdaCalculus37 | rasher: No problem. I'll commit those when I can get net access for my MacBook. |
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20:02:14 | LambdaCalculus37 | Should I put them into the 3.3 branch as well? |
20:05:30 | rasher | Yeah |
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20:10:06 | pixelma | LambdaCalculus37: be careful though, the release branch does not have the same set of strings as the "normal" one... |
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20:10:11 | funman | well audiobuf is quite higher, perhaps because of dircache |
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20:11:06 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: Then if anything, I'll not commit it to the release branch until someone checks over it to make sure nothing will break. |
20:12:04 | roma | privet vsem, кто говорит на русском ? |
20:12:21 | funman | roma: speak english please |
20:12:29 | pixelma | no−−one |
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20:12:49 | roma | :) |
20:12:58 | roma | ok |
20:13:09 | rasher | I think those translations were before the pitchscreen commit |
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20:13:58 | pixelma | LambdaCalculus37: for the hebrew one, I think the second last would be good for the release branch and the last for SVN |
20:14:37 | roma | I have SANS FUZE, I can install RockBox on it ? |
20:15:01 | roma | and play in plays on him |
20:15:13 | pixelma | LambdaCalculus37: maybe you'll see when the patch doesn't apply anymore... |
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20:15:25 | roma | play in games |
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20:16:20 | CIA-70 | New commit by mcuelenaere (r21331): Ingenic Jz4740: enable IRAM (only core, without ibss) |
20:17:07 | roma | help mу plz |
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20:17:54 | bertrik | roma, rockbox for the fuze is being worked on but is not ready yet |
20:17:55 | BryanJacobs | roma: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaFuze |
20:19:57 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: Okay, I'll the patches as such for the Hebrew translation. |
20:21:06 | funman | bertrik: hi! it seems the c200v2 suffers from the clip problem (even worse) |
20:21:09 | * | JdGordon| wonders if LambdaCalculus37 is creating new languages now? |
20:21:53 | bertrik | funman, hi. Too bad about that, I hope to have a go at fixing it this weekend for the e200 |
20:22:23 | bertrik | funman, could you read the chip id? |
20:22:29 | funman | and the same radio problem than e200v2 |
20:22:40 | funman | yes but i didn't write it, do you want it ? |
20:23:01 | bertrik | yes please |
20:23:03 | roma | зачем разбирать плеер |
20:23:30 | LambdaCalculus37 | JdGordon| Only if I can translate Rockbox into Klingon. :P |
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20:24:05 | LambdaCalculus37 | roma: This is an English language channel. |
20:25:03 | bertrik | funman, moving the stacks to IRAM seemed to make a lot of difference for me, I haven't seen in at all (several hours of play last night and today) |
20:25:53 | bertrik | probably that wasn't really the core problem, but still interesting |
20:26:29 | funman | the thread code checks for stack overflow on thread switch |
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20:27:56 | CIA-70 | New commit by mcuelenaere (r21332): Fix red |
20:31:26 | funman | note to self: c200v1 build doesn't run on c200v2 |
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20:38:42 | funman | hmm audiobuffer is 656 bytes with logf enabled.. |
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20:40:41 | low_light | LambdaCalculus37: for your SA9200: low_light/asset/rockbox-sa9200-zip">http://drop.io/low_light/asset/rockbox-sa9200-zip |
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20:43:41 | LambdaCalculus37 | low_light: Thanks! |
20:43:48 | LambdaCalculus37 | What's in this build? Anything new? |
20:45:49 | low_light | touchpad ;) |
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20:48:09 | LambdaCalculus37 | low_light: Sweet! :) |
20:49:39 | LambdaCalculus37 | Now I can get to some manual work! |
20:52:56 | low_light | LambdaCalculus37: I'd like to get the hdd1630 "official." It could use keymap work, a manual, and a rbutil install. |
20:54:13 | LambdaCalculus37 | low_light: I already started some manual work for the HDD1630. |
20:54:28 | * | toffe82 thinks should make extra hours to have these manual ready ;) |
20:54:46 | funman | low_light: can you share disassembly of yh925 so i can look for similar code in yh920 ? |
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20:56:50 | low_light | funman: I can email it to you later |
20:59:32 | low_light | LambdaCalculus37: the sa9200 has a new lcd size (128x160), so the cabbie theme will need to be reworked |
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21:01:04 | low_light | Also, you'll probably hear clicks/pops when playing music on the SA9200. It's especially noticable in the debug i/o screen. Probably a clock/timing issue. |
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21:05:49 | funman | bertrik: increasing audiobuffer size on the c200v2 shows a difference in files which play (files which didn't play now do) |
21:06:33 | bertrik | ah cool |
21:06:47 | funman | which is annoying because i wanted to trigger the bug ;) |
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21:12:47 | CIA-70 | New commit by funman (r21333): c200v2 simulator |
21:12:57 | funman | Bagder: can you add c200v2 bootloader/firmware/sim builds ? |
21:13:01 | LambdaCalculus37 | low_light: Who usually does new cabbie sizes? |
21:13:29 | pixelma | LambdaCalculus37: what's the screen resolution? |
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21:13:45 | low_light | pixelma: 160x128 |
21:13:51 | LambdaCalculus37 | pixelma: 128x160 |
21:14:04 | low_light | errr 128x160 |
21:14:08 | LambdaCalculus37 | :P |
21:14:15 | pixelma | so portrait? |
21:14:25 | LambdaCalculus37 | x16... don't forget the color depth! ; |
21:14:31 | low_light | I have the sim build ready too |
21:16:35 | * | LambdaCalculus37 smells a commit! |
21:17:13 | low_light | not from work :/ |
21:18:59 | LambdaCalculus37 | low_light: There's still no proper bootloader for the SA9200, is there? |
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21:21:27 | toffe82 | interesting paper on power management for portable audio player : http://focus.ti.com/lit/wp/spraaw6/spraaw6.pdf |
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21:29:04 | low_light | LambdaCalculus37: You need the Rockbox bootloader to load rockbox.mi4. |
21:29:14 | low_light | It's the initial installation of rockbox.zip that's complicated since there's no msc usb mode. |
21:29:31 | low_light | in the OF, that is |
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21:32:33 | low_light | LambdaCalculus37: I don't know if we could use sendfirm to install the rockbox.zip first and then install the bootloader in the usual way. |
21:32:51 | LambdaCalculus37 | low_light: The SA9200 is MTP-only, right? |
21:33:03 | low_light | yes |
21:33:11 | LambdaCalculus37 | Hmmm... |
21:33:41 | LambdaCalculus37 | I think we can take a Gigabeast-like method of install here. |
21:36:38 | low_light | LambdaCalculus37: yes. I'll leave that up to you :P |
21:37:45 | funman | bertrik: can you bench a lcd modification on your c200v1? |
21:37:52 | LambdaCalculus37 | low_light: Me, with less than stellar coding skills? ;) |
21:39:55 | low_light | at leas you know how the compile sendfirm :) |
21:42:52 | LambdaCalculus37 | low_light: That's true. :) |
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21:44:18 | LambdaCalculus37 | low_light: While we're on the subject of the GoGears, on FS #10269, I think your idea is a much more logical way of adding the GoGear HDD6330 to the build system. |
21:45:35 | LambdaCalculus37 | Mine was just a big kludgey mess that I was trying to iron out, but it was also an exercise for me to learn how to add a new target to the build system. |
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21:46:13 | rob | i dont know if this is a bug or my music file but rock box occasionaly cuts off the last minute of some songs |
21:48:44 | PaulJam_ | rob: does this happen reproduceably with the same songs? |
21:49:05 | rob | yea which means it might be the mp3 |
21:49:35 | rob | this one song cut off twice but in 2 different spoits |
21:49:38 | rob | spots |
21:52:22 | PaulJam_ | do the songs play fine on your pc? |
21:52:47 | rob | i havent tried yet |
21:53:05 | rob | the issue is i can only remember the name of 1 song |
21:53:07 | rob | not the other |
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21:54:14 | rob | ill see if it plays fine all thee way through on my pc |
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21:54:18 | rob | if not does that mean its Rockbox? |
21:55:21 | PaulJam_ | you could also check your player for filesystem errors (using chkdsk or fschk.vfat) |
21:55:22 | rob | its the mp3 |
21:56:04 | bertrik | funman, sure, what should I test? |
21:56:21 | rob | someone screwed with the recording |
21:57:23 | funman | bertrik: http://pastie.org/515822 (same lcd_send_data than svn but in asm) |
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21:58:21 | funman | well and i can save a stm if ldrh takes the same time than ldm |
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21:59:45 | epithetless | Hi, folks. Pardon the interruption. I'm David Thacker −− I occasionally post in the forums (as epithetless) and am interested in obtaining write permissions for the Wiki. |
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22:00:09 | webmind | good evening |
22:01:20 | saratoga | on arm7 load/store multiple are much faster then single stores |
22:01:30 | saratoga | on arm9 they're about the same, but give larger codes sizes obviously |
22:01:37 | funman | saratoga: for only one word ? |
22:01:47 | funman | epithetless: what's your wiki name ? |
22:01:54 | epithetless | DavidThacker |
22:02:25 | saratoga | funman: for a single word I think both will be the same |
22:02:28 | * | webmind just replaced the CF card on his ipod-mini |
22:02:38 | webmind | but now I want rockbox on it again |
22:02:49 | funman | epithetless: should be ok now |
22:02:53 | webmind | and I was wondering how it should be partitioned? |
22:03:02 | * | robin0800_ is back. |
22:03:40 | pixelma | robin0800_: don't do this here |
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22:04:08 | funman | saratoga: gcc stores/load r4 on the stack but i could avoid that by doing 1 more ldrb |
22:04:25 | PaulJam_ | webmind: i think the easiest way would be to restore it with itunes (i'm not sure itf this will work with a cf modded ipod, though) |
22:04:38 | gevaerts | it will |
22:04:46 | webmind | PaulJam_, I run linux |
22:04:50 | webmind | so no itunes |
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22:05:16 | epithetless | Thanks, funman! I'm still waiting for my activation code to be sent via email (following my TWikiRegistration submission) −− I assume it's just a matter of waiting longer? |
22:05:32 | PaulJam_ | webmind: then the wiki should have a page called IpodManualRestore or similar, containing the informations |
22:05:36 | funman | epithetless: there's no activation code |
22:05:38 | gevaerts | webmind: have a look at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodManualRestore. You can get an mbr from there (or near there), and then resize the other partition |
22:05:54 | epithetless | Ah, good to know. Thanks again! |
22:05:59 | webmind | thanks |
22:06:10 | funman | epithetless: are you sure it's "DavidThacker" ? |
22:06:44 | funman | I don't see you in http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TWikiUsers#D |
22:06:53 | epithetless | That's what I entered on the registration page (just now)... |
22:07:49 | funman | I added you on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TWikiUsersGroup , perhaps you need to login again .. i don't really know how registration works |
22:08:35 | Torne | funman: er, i remember having to activate mine.. |
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22:08:57 | Torne | i think. |
22:09:28 | Torne | i may be thinking of something else. |
22:09:56 | epithetless | Yeah, it's not letting me past the Authorization dialog. I'll try registering again. |
22:11:26 | funman | hum perhaps you need to wait for the email then :) i only gave you write permission (for your not yet existing user?) |
22:12:05 | saratoga | there is no DavidThacker account on the wiki |
22:12:08 | saratoga | so i would try again |
22:12:08 | epithetless | Haha. I'll try patience, then. |
22:12:25 | epithetless | Just re-registered. |
22:12:49 | saratoga | you should be able to type you account into the "Go" box and see your page once you're registered |
22:14:41 | bertrik | funman, 43 fps at 30 MHz, 115 fps at 80 MHz |
22:14:51 | webmind | hmm, I got the right mbr |
22:14:54 | funman | so still slower than before |
22:15:04 | webmind | but cfdisk/fdisk doesn't recouldnize sda1 |
22:15:16 | webmind | gparted won't even run on it |
22:15:34 | epithetless | I'll give the activation code some time to reach my inbox before pestering you guys again. Thanks for the help. |
22:16:23 | webmind | parted crashed on it |
22:16:55 | funman | bertrik: i need to look at the part which calls it and test on c200v2 |
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22:29:50 | wincent | Does anybody know good source for floating-point routines like log and exp? |
22:30:27 | funman | i would say glibc |
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22:31:21 | wincent | Most obvious answer is often the most elusive :-) |
22:31:27 | wincent | Thank you. |
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22:31:52 | Torne | or newlib/uclibc, whicha re sometimes easier to read |
22:31:57 | IuDeX | hi. IS sound working on Sansa AMS? I'm thinking about r21330. Does it work on Clip? |
22:31:57 | Torne | though for math it's probably a wash |
22:32:23 | pyro_maniac | funman: do you know the product id of your YH-920? |
22:32:51 | IuDeX | Wow. Funman is here :D |
22:33:30 | funman | IuDeX: sound works on Sansa AMS since r19342 (6 months ago) |
22:33:49 | IuDeX | funman: But without stops? :) |
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22:34:35 | funman | it's still buggy as of today |
22:35:10 | IuDeX | ok thanks. Only thing what I can do for you is now testing. |
22:35:31 | funman | pyro_maniac: 04e8:5022 , same than in config-yh920.h |
22:36:14 | CIA-70 | New commit by funman (r21334): Confirm USB VID/PID of Samsung YH920 |
22:37:27 | pyro_maniac | funman: mine has 04e8:501d |
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22:40:15 | pyro_maniac | funman: do you have a YH-920 GS too? |
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22:43:30 | Bagder | so, are we ready to release? |
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22:44:03 | AlexP | Speak now, hold peace etc :) |
22:44:07 | JdGordon| | there was 2 lang updates to add before, dunno if llamda ended up getting them in? |
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22:44:29 | gevaerts | JdGordon|: confusing Llorean and LambdaCalculus37? :) |
22:44:56 | gevaerts | Bagder: I have no remaining plans. Do we need Archos flash things? |
22:44:57 | JdGordon| | :) |
22:45:19 | Bagder | gevaerts: good question, I don't know |
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22:46:08 | pixelma | JdGordon|: good thing you didn't miss the d in there ;) |
22:46:17 | funman | pyro_maniac: well straneg |
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22:46:23 | funman | there is no mtp mode on yh |
22:46:52 | pyro_maniac | hmm |
22:47:08 | pyro_maniac | its the second difference to yours |
22:48:16 | Bagder | I do miss that unifying patch for the tools/release/* scripts... |
22:49:05 | JdGordon| | yeah, sorry, ran out of steam on it (if your talking about mine....) also the fact it nuked my rockbox dir was a bit annoying |
22:49:07 | * | gevaerts suddenly remembers the ReleaseChecklist page |
22:49:32 | JdGordon| | the patch as it is though is fine and might be nice to put in anyway |
22:49:36 | Bagder | JdGordon: yeah, well I didn't work anything further on it either so I'm not blaming anyone |
22:54:07 | CIA-70 | New commit by bagder (r21335): (3.3-branch only) modify version strings to 3.3 |
22:54:21 | gevaerts | amiconn: do we want new archos flash packages? |
22:54:39 | pyro_maniac | funman: is yours a "GS" too? |
22:55:26 | amiconn | gevaerts: Not this time. Nothing relevant for bootbox or the flash loader has changed |
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22:55:29 | funman | don't think so |
22:55:44 | funman | i think kugel has a yh925GS |
22:55:49 | amiconn | This means users will have to flash 3.3 themselves, but that's all |
22:55:50 | Programan | I'm planning on getting a sansa e260, will rockbox work with this player? |
22:56:06 | gevaerts | so an easy release :) |
22:56:20 | pyro_maniac | funman: doesn't it have a sticker on the back with its complete name? |
22:56:28 | pyro_maniac | funman: mine has |
22:56:34 | Bagder | ok, I can press the button for the release to start cooking |
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22:57:09 | linuxstb | Programan: If you buy it new, then you will get "version 2" hardware, which isn't supported by Rockbox (but it is in development, and partially works). Version 1 hardware works well, and is supported. |
22:57:22 | funman | ah it's not very readable but it's YH920GSsomething |
22:57:45 | Programan | Right, gotta find a ver1, thanx it kept saying e200 but I assumed it ment the series.. Thanx :P |
22:58:15 | linuxstb | Yes, everywhere we say "e200" we mean "e200 series". |
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23:01:47 | Programan | Thanx again :) |
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23:05:12 | Programan | Any easy way to tell if it is a version 1? Probaby most of the will be refurbs? |
23:05:58 | linuxstb | If the firmware version is 1.something then it's a version 1. But you (or the seller) needs to turn it on to find that out. |
23:06:20 | Programan | Ahh |
23:07:04 | linuxstb | FW 03.x.x means version 2. |
23:07:17 | gevaerts | we still need the note about natsort being expected to change in the release notes. Does anyone have an idea about phrasing and where to put it? |
23:07:43 | Programan | Ok |
23:08:00 | JdGordon| | gevaerts: so it did get disabled for the release? |
23:08:21 | gevaerts | JdGordon|: ascii is the default, but natsort is there if you want it |
23:08:39 | JdGordon| | k |
23:09:05 | gevaerts | It's just that we know it has bugs, so we know it will change at some point. I'm not really sure now if this is really worth putting on the release notes though. I was yesterday... |
23:11:50 | linuxstb | gevaerts: You could add it to the "What's new?" section. Something like "NOTE: This feature is still being developed and its behaviour is likely to change in future releases". |
23:12:00 | linuxstb | But yes, I'm not convinced of the need to say that - everything in Rockbox is subject to change... |
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23:12:35 | * | linuxstb has been staying out of the sorting debate |
23:12:43 | * | JdGordon| is almost willing to bet that the default will never change... |
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23:14:33 | pixelma | it just changed for the release.. |
23:15:33 | gevaerts | JdGordon|: at some point we'll forget to change it to ascii in the release, and after that we'll have no choice :) |
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23:35:09 | rob | well i managed to get my hands on a different version of the skipping osng lets hope it owrks |
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23:40:15 | webmind | seems like I got it working again |
23:40:26 | webmind | with an 'incorrect' partition table |
23:45:49 | Bagder | someone could type up a release mail to the mls |
23:46:08 | gevaerts | MrSomeone: ping |
23:48:05 | CIA-70 | New commit by bagder (r21336): tag the 3.3 release off its branch |
23:48:08 | * | funman doesn't feel concerned by stable releases yet but could copy a previous mail if needed |
23:49:14 | * | Bagder started pondering on the design of the new build system |
23:49:27 | gevaerts | funman: go ahead! |
23:49:36 | hillshum | funman: do you have anything that runs stable anyway? |
23:49:49 | funman | hillshum: no that's my point :) |
23:50:07 | * | hillshum is the same way |
23:51:37 | funman | Bagder: should I send it after http://www.rockbox.org/download/ has been updated ? |
23:52:33 | Bagder | I guess that's nicest |
23:54:25 | funman | dev & user ML, nothing else? |
23:54:45 | Bagder | forums |
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23:57:39 | funman | mail & ReleaseNotes33 ready, waiting for instructions |
23:58:29 | gevaerts | Bagder: shout if you need my build and upload time database |
23:58:39 | bluebrother | Bagder: have you already moved the rbutil 1.2.2 binaries? |
23:58:58 | Bagder | bluebrother: I only saw the mac ones, what's the url for the other ones? |