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#rockbox log for 2009-07-03

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00:02:50Lloreansafetydan: Well, as I said, the controls needed for it are very basic.
00:02:56shotofaddsJdGordon|: ah, currently MIDRIGHT seems to do two actions: it both increments the slider AND switches between Gain/CutOff/Q.
00:03:03Lloreansafetydan: The touchscreen has a control mode that basically makes it a four-directional + select controller
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00:03:29safetydanLlorean: ah, okay. makes a little more sense now.
00:03:35shotofaddsSELECT switches between Gain/CutOff/Q, but seems to act twice on short presses
00:03:41Lloreansafetydan: So it basically boils down to needing a "back" button, and mapping all those virtual button.s
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00:08:28lee321987I have to delete everything in my .rockbox folder. Does the file "config.cfg" contain all my last used settings?
00:09:32Mikachulee321987: you can just rename the dir too
00:09:49lee321987good idea. Thanks guys.
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00:27:25lee321987In 'Debug (Keep Out!)', what does the 'USB HID' stuff do? Is it safe to play around with it?
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00:28:53stripwaxlee321987 - it lets you control media functions of your PC, when your audio player is connected to your PC via USB.
00:30:42lee321987What PC programs does it work with? (Is this documented somewhere?)
00:30:52scorcheit works with windows
00:31:06rasherlee321987: It works with whatever a regular "multimedia keyboard" works with
00:31:22rasherIn fact, Rockbox pretends to be a keyboard with only those buttons.
00:31:29stripwaxlee321987 - in theory it should behave the same as pressing the "volume up" key on a PC keyboard [for those PC keyboards that have them], etc
00:31:48LloreanYou don't need to go into debug to use them though
00:31:58lee321987Player buttons?
00:32:01LloreanThose are leftovers from when it was in an earlier state, it's now automatic when supported devices are attached to a PC.
00:32:18rasherIs there any sense in keeping them there?
00:32:33LloreanAs far as I've been told, no.
00:32:45LloreanThey're redundant at this point since you can actually just press the buttons.
00:33:02gevaertsI'll remove them soon (not today though. A bit late for safe committing)
00:33:53rasherlee321987: You can controll the volume, playback etc. on your computer with the buttons on your DAP, when connected to your computer. Which DAP do you have?
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00:40:37pixelmamost of them equal the WPS controls (play/pause, volume etc.)
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00:41:47stripwaxWhen do daily builds kick off?
00:41:59lee321987I wish I could play around with it. Once I finally get my player connected good, touching it may screw up the connection.
00:42:02stripwaxLooks like yesterday is must have been around midnight GMT
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00:42:55linuxstbstripwax: I thought they were around 6am GMT
00:43:40stripwaxAh ok. In that case I'll do a quick commit or two now then..
00:43:54Zagor06:00 CET
00:44:10pixelmasummer time?
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00:44:28Zagorpixelma: yes, whatever time Stockholm has :)
00:45:05CIA-69New commit by stripwax (r21615): Fix playlist viewer behaviour when deleting tracks (one ret had missed being changed to ret_val). FIx playlist viewer behaviour when deleting the only ...
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00:45:20pixelma6AM Stockholm time
00:45:34stripwaxpixelma - thanks!
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00:48:01pixelmastripwax: thanks too, need to try out your fixes (I'm watching the "playlist moving" report as I was affected)
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01:03:55CIA-69New commit by stripwax (r21616): Commit patch in FS #7967 by Vuong Minh Hiep (with some small changes to variable names for consistency) - separately keep track of viewer-index and ...
01:03:59stripwaxpixelma - no problems, let me know how it works out for you
01:04:39Unhelpfulamiconn: i'm not convinced that will be a big gain in the even part. i think it may be worthwhile in the odd part, since i can also replace the two shifts with two packs (to pack the odd-part coefficients togeth)
01:04:43Unhelpfultogether. eesh.
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01:17:02mt\o/ \o/
01:17:13obomt: congrats!
01:17:19Unhelpfulmt: progress?
01:17:24*rasher looks for the announcement
01:17:33*obo points to the dev-ml
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01:17:41JdGordon|mt: congrats
01:18:00rashermt: Nice job
01:18:07mtThanks all :)
01:18:19Unhelpfulgood work :D
01:18:32rasherHaven't we had codecs without seeking enabled before?
01:18:36JdGordon|hardly worth the effort untill seeking works though!
01:18:59JdGordon|yeah, no need to wait for seeking to work to commit
01:19:09mtJdGordon| : No RM for you !!
01:19:16mtOh now I take it back. :D
01:19:25JdGordon|oh thats a sh<buffering>
01:20:20saratoga_rasher: yeah it was a couple months before we enabled seeking for wma for instance, and SHN still doesn't seek
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01:29:58*stripwax fixes another annoying one
01:30:17CIA-69New commit by stripwax (r21617): Initialise minesweeper main menu so that first item is selected on plugin start (previously was uninitialised, for me usually started off with second ...
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01:35:36CIA-69New commit by zagor (r21618): Added logging in mysql.
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02:43:10G-PrimeHello everyone!
02:43:39G-PrimeCould anyone help me as to how to get the TIMESTRETCH feature of Rockbox to work on my Sansa e280?
02:47:24FlynDiceG-Prime: from wps long seleect brings up context menu. Then look for "pitch"
02:47:33FlynDiceselect even
02:48:30rasherYou need to enable it. In the playback settings I believe
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03:09:49drakonikSo I've got an incredibly frustrating bug. I've got an ipod video 30g, I just installed Rockbox 3.3 about 30 minutes ago, and whenever I try to build the database, the player's backlight flashes for a split second and the whole thing crashes hard, total power down.
03:10:44drakonikProblem is that it's got 900 to 1300 songs in its database before it does this so short of adding the files one by one, I don't really know how I"d figure out which one is causing a crash.
03:10:46LloreanTry updating to the newest current build and see if it's better.
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03:10:59drakonikAlright, I can do that
03:11:31drakonikIs this a known issue?
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03:13:13LloreanLess a "known issue" and more "overall improvements have happened since then"
03:13:28LloreanSo while I couldn't say why yours is crashing, I can say it's *likely* at least a newer version could improve it
03:13:28drakonikI figured as much. Fingers crossed, then.
03:14:27drakonikI hope it works, I desperately want/need Rockbox
03:16:36G-PrimeFlnDice: I've tried looking for the option in the "playback settings" but it's not there. Why is this?
03:16:47LloreanG-Prime: What build are you using?
03:17:11LloreanIt wasn't in 3.3
03:17:23G-PrimeWhich build is it in?
03:18:01drakonikthat was strange. I hadn't even started building the database yet and it crashes.
03:18:13LloreanG-Prime: Current.
03:18:29G-PrimeI thought 3.3 was released on June 19 being the most current one
03:18:38LloreanIt's the most current release.
03:18:50G-PrimeAh, got it
03:19:02G-PrimeTimestretch is on a build that still isnt a release, a beta
03:20:14LloreanNot a beta.
03:20:17LloreanJust the current SVN builds.
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03:20:35G-PrimeThanks for your help so far buddy, how do I use this "SVN" build?
03:20:49LloreanIt's an option when installing - current build.
03:21:30G-Primegot it
03:26:04G-PrimeI'm trying it right now and it still seems to be affecting the pitch
03:26:28LloreanDid you turn timestretch on and shut down and boot up again?
03:26:41G-PrimeLet me try turning it OFF to see if it makes a difference
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03:26:51LloreanI just asked if you turned it off and you said yes...
03:26:53MikachuG-Prime: did you also change the mode in the pitch screen?
03:26:57MikachuLlorean: i think he means the setting
03:27:23G-PrimeI turned it on, adjusted the pitch and it still seemed to be adjusting the pitch
03:27:31G-PrimeSo let me try turning timestretch OFF to see if it makes a difference
03:28:05MikachuG-Prime: so you didn't switch the mode then
03:28:32Mikachuin the pitch screen, you have to press a button to change it to timestretch mode
03:28:42Mikachuyou can only do this if the setting is enabled
03:28:48G-PrimeI've enabled the setting
03:28:49Mikachuenabling the setting doesn't switch the mode
03:28:56G-PrimeWhat do I press at the pitch screen to turn it to TIMESTRETCH?
03:29:02Mikachui don't know, i don't have a sansa
03:29:06Mikachutry all buttons ;)
03:31:35G-PrimeI got it
03:31:37G-PrimeTHANKS guys
03:31:54G-PrimeOh wow
03:32:01G-PrimeThis works flawless on this audibook
03:34:51drakonikstill crashing. Excellent.
03:35:06drakonikEven with the latest release
03:35:47Mikachudrakonik: you don't just have a weak battery?
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03:36:14drakonikNope, I thought that was it, but I ran the database scan with it in charge mode
03:38:15Hillshumthe usb charging is a little buggy
03:38:28drakonikIt's worth a try.
03:38:29Mikachuthe battery can run out during charging too
03:38:33soapwrong time of day for asking - but has any thought been given to adding "known issues" to the manual in a contextual manner?
03:38:59drakonikI'm throwing it on the charger, gonna give it an hour or so
03:39:14drakonikShould be long enough for it to scan 1400 files.
03:39:46soapI got to thinking about this when reading Llorean's post and thought "that maybe should be added to 7.12"
03:40:18saratoga_drakonik: usually a crash during database scan means that you have a corrupted file that the tag parser crashes on, so you'll need to figure out which file that is and fix its tags
03:40:29saratoga_ideally you should then send us a copy of that file so we can make it not crash
03:40:46Mikachusaratoga_: will a crash in the scanner cause a shutdown though?
03:40:46saratoga_well send it to us before you fix it's tags
03:40:50drakonikDoes Rockbox maybe not support unicode characters or something?
03:40:50soapit likely would only make sense to do so by adding a new convention, similar to the existing "Note" one.
03:41:23rashersoap: do we get to use a tiny bug icon?
03:41:33saratoga_Mikachu: he said it crashes
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03:41:46soapif I say "tiny pig icon" do I get your vote?
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03:41:54Mikachu"whenever I try to build the database, the player's backlight flashes for a split second and the whole thing crashes hard, total power down."
03:41:59drakonikIt crashes. Hard. Doesn't freeze up, it dies straight dead.
03:43:00rasherdoes the pc database scanner work these days?
03:43:00drakonikAnyway, I'll look at the tags
03:43:06drakonikThat's my best lead so far
03:44:08drakonikBut really, if Rockbox doesn't support foreign (non-english) characters, that could be doing it.
03:44:22saratoga_we do
03:44:26soapdrakonik, better than "looking" at the tags (if you meant that literally, else ignore) is to do a binary search by removing 50% of your music and seeing if you can reproduce, and swap and split your file collection until you find the problem file - it likely isn't a "visible" tag issue.
03:44:46drakoniksoap: actually
03:44:56drakonikwhy didn't I think of that?
03:45:19saratoga_post the file when you find it on the bug tracker
03:45:37soapand I would not be shocked if the tag problem is a result of your tagger lying to you anyway.
03:45:52drakonikI JUST retagged these a few days ago
03:46:26soapI have made a fool of myself multiple times trusting my (then) favorite tagger.
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03:50:52drakonikoh jesus
03:51:03drakoniktrying to copy files OFF the ipod is causing it to crash
03:51:17drakonikhahaha oh wow
03:51:21Mikachujust charge it for a while dude :)
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03:51:53drakonikI think I found a problem file
03:51:56drakonikthere might be more
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03:53:57drakonikoh wow, this is broken pretty bad
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03:57:17drakonikIt won't even charge itself
03:57:24drakonikIt keeps disconnecting itself
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03:57:52soapboot into apple firmware - if it keeps disconnecting itself you know it is a hardware issue.
03:58:09drakonikTrying to, but Menu+Center button wasn't working
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06:01:11JdGordonok, whos got a contentious feature for me to add?
06:01:37funmanstart of clipv2 port fs#10047
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06:04:41JdGordoni have no clip
06:05:30funmaneven more contentious ;)
06:06:53*JdGordon *hates* large patches :(
06:06:56JdGordonsuch a PITA to review
06:07:27funmanJdGordon: need help?
06:08:01JdGordonI'm looking at 8799 to try and either break it or get it commitable
06:08:08JdGordonhavnt decided which yet :p
06:08:37*JdGordon gets the idea of working on a scroll-wheel-usable vkeyboard
06:09:19LloreanWith user-definable list dimensions (or, more specifically, a final state of "everything happens in viewports") would that make rotation potentially easier, since at that point everything is basically working with flexible screen dimensions?
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06:10:02JdGordonthat is one obstacle... certainly not the biuggest though
06:10:23LloreanI thought everything depending on screen dimensions was the biggest obstacle.
06:11:25Unhelpfulno core text rotate either, is there?
06:11:41JdGordonthe lcd driver would provide that
06:12:25JdGordonI was more worried about the inbuilt images, but there arnt very many, and where there are, they could be either forced to portraight, or rotated easily enough
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06:14:01JdGordonunfortunatly, we are still a fair way off from having viewports working "properly"
06:14:50LloreanWell, I don't have much use for rotation beyond where we already do it anyway. I was just curious.
06:19:35*JdGordon wonders if his radio patch from nov 08 still works
06:19:43JdGordon9573 for the curious
06:23:34JdGordonUnhelpful: can you move your jpeg stuff out of apps/recorder and into apps/<something else>?
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06:24:07JdGordonactually... moving all the bmp/aa/jpeg stuff into a new folder would be nice
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06:34:59Unhelpfulsurely *anybody* could do that? ;)
06:42:03JdGordonLlorean: did we ever get to an agreement on the usb connect action patch? charge/connect/switch on button?
06:46:00LloreanI think we *mostly* settled on "an option to pick which is the default, and hold any button to get the other"
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07:08:38CIA-69New commit by jdgordon (r21619): Fix the bug where the short-long fwd/back action would ffwd/rewind the next folder (consult the manual if that makes no sense)
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07:09:00JdGordonthat stupid bug has been driving me mad since i moved to the mini2g as my main dap :p
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08:10:06VK7HSEjust been searching for information for the sansa m240 mp3 player, I was wondering if there had been any further work on this make of device? currently it has 1.0.8 firmware loaded
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08:16:24JdGordonhow do people feel about allowing the statusbar to be at the bottom of the screen instead of the top?
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08:33:33gibbon_is there any way to tell if my build server contributed something of any use tonight?
08:39:39JdGordonyou can check the buildmaster logs from the build page
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09:11:57*JdGordon curses the rec screen
09:15:32JdGordonbertrik: hey, have a look at 9573 when you get around to fiddling with the fm screen :)
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09:15:43JdGordonI dont know how relevant it still is though
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09:17:52GodEaterseems my build server is too slow to compete at all at the moment =/
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10:51:21GodEaterthe reverse engineering of the nano 2G bootroom seems to be coming along at a good pace
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11:00:32linuxstbGodEater: Someone has dumped it?
11:01:20GodEaterfxb and some other guy wrote some shell code that exploited the bug in the Notes application on the ipod, and dumped the ROM contents out over a JTAG they hooked up
11:01:34*GodEater recommended #linux4nano-dev for more details
11:01:52linuxstbCool. Only took about 2 and a half years... ;)
11:02:10GodEaterapparently the same bug exists in both the 3G Nano, and the classic
11:02:36GodEaterthe plan with those (a ways down the line yet) is to get access to the UART to dump the ROMS on those if it becomes necessary
11:02:54GodEaterI think the 4G Nano is more complicated though, since it's closer in arch to the iphone / itouch
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11:03:51GodEaterTorne has been roped into this disassembly of the nano as well, since he still can't boot your beast, we've given him that to do instead. He's apparently a bit a of a ninja with IDA.
11:04:06Tornei had a look a bit
11:04:18Tornebut tbh i think other people have already gotten much further
11:04:24Torneand i'm not sure if i can be bothered :)
11:04:49GodEaterbest get that beast charging then
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12:03:20CIA-69New commit by unhelpful (r21620): JPEG IDCT8 ARMv6 assembly, slight speedup vs ARMv5.
12:03:28Unhelpfulamiconn: i had to pull teeth to get a single SMUAD. i suspect algorithmic differences are a big part of the problem, but take a look if you want.
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12:22:15notlisteningnew ARM processor with DSP if there was a product with them how long very guestimate would it take to implement that into rockbox and what would the advantages be?
12:23:48Unhelpfula DSP that we have nice documentation for, or one like the vast majority where there is no OSS compiler, and probably no documenation on the instruction set either? :P
12:24:27Unhelpfulalso, we don't give release estimates, especially for entirely hypothetical targets.
12:28:27notlisteningWould the advantage of having it outweigh the effort to make it work? all in theory?
12:29:29Unhelpful"maybe". :P
12:31:11notlisteningplay i will stop on this line of enquiry ;P
12:33:03TorneGodEater: i'm probably gonna start reversing what i think is the right code anyway, without the hardware :)
12:33:19TorneGodEater: it should become obvious pretty quickly if it's *not* the right code. :)
12:36:36linuxstbnotlistening: There's also a lot more to a device than just the CPU. e.g. you don't know how easy it is to run your own code on this hypothetical target, something that could take years to work out...
12:38:23Tornenotlistening: if we could run code, and if the dsp was documented reasonably, and there was a Free compiler, then yes, it would probably be useful. that's not a very interesting statement though, obviously hardware manufacturers wouldn't include a dsp if it wasn't useful :)
12:39:09notlisteningbut the qestuon more was would it / could it be harness to do good with rockbox?
12:39:47Torneif it was documented and had a free compiler then yes, we could almost certainly use it to be more power efficient
12:40:09TorneDSP implementations of many codecs tend to be feasible at lower clocks
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12:46:02notlisteningokay well i will bear that in mind
12:49:40Torneit would be a huge maount of work though even with good docs
12:49:50Tornedsp programming is not easy even with a nice compiler ;)
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15:46:14kugelgevaerts: ping
15:47:22gevaertskugel: yes?
15:47:43kugelhave you seen the plugin-goto-wps patch?
15:49:05gevaertsno. Is in on flyspray somewhere?
15:53:36kugelit has some other changes, but it works for rfa and pf
15:54:12gevaertsThanks. I'll have a look at it later
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16:51:03funmanmcuelenaere: do you still have problems with SD on ingenic ? (now that you enable SDHC for !HAVE_MULTIVOLUME ..)
16:51:28mcuelenaerefunman: nope, not in SVN code
16:51:33funmancool :)
16:51:35mcuelenaereI'm trying to get HOTSWAP working now though
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16:51:49mcuelenaereand I think the SD thread should get moved to drivers/sd.c
16:52:00funmanyeah i didn't check this one
16:52:14funmanperhaps it's possible to factorize other functions and use target specific helpers also
16:52:23mcuelenaereyeah, probably
16:52:37funmannice binsize decrease ! (-2.4kB)
16:53:05mcuelenaerewell, most is yours :)
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17:22:45drakonikWow. Charged the ipod overnight and Rockbox seems to think is has zero charge, whereas the ipod firmware calls it about 50%
17:23:25Mikachudid you charge in rockbox or the ipod firmware?
17:23:37drakonikCrap. I can't even remember
17:24:06Mikachusomeone can correct me, but i don't think charging ipods in rockbox is enabled(?) in 3.3
17:24:26drakonikhaha, that's...well, there's probably a goo reasn for that
17:24:37rasherYeah, it didn't work.
17:24:52Mikachui'm not sure if it's disabled completely, or just the switch from 200 to 500 mA?
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17:25:39Llorean100 to 500. It only charges at 100 AFAIK, which in many situation is less than the power needed just to run the device.
17:25:53drakonikwell, the basic point is the discrepancy between the ipod battery and rockbox battery
17:26:04drakonikAlso, it's crashing on boot up
17:26:11drakonikWow. I screwed something up. Hugely.
17:26:14MikachuLlorean: is that in svn or 3.3 though?
17:26:19LloreanMikachu: 3.3
17:26:32LloreanWell, both actually
17:26:46Mikachujust what was disabled for the release then? :)
17:26:54Mikachui'm probably more confused than i'm helping at this point
17:26:58Mikachuoh, right
17:27:30Lloreandrakonik: The discrepancy in the battery levels may just be an issue of what each of us consider various levels. The runtimes between the too won't be different (or rather, they will be, but because the battery level is the same, they won't be based on what's displayed)
17:27:35drakonikI updated it to the latest build just a moment ago and I've got the same issues. And I can't even do soap's idea, because once I start trying to remove files from the ipod, it shuts itself down and then reboots and then shuts itself down and reboots, ad infinitum
17:27:47LloreanMikachu: Even without USB support, you can still hold "Menu" to 'charge' but without the charging code, you only get low power
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17:28:09Lloreandrakonik: If you can't do USB in the original firmware, your iPod has other troubles
17:28:19LloreanHonestly, the fact that overnight didn't charge it beyond 50% suggests your battery may have issues.
17:28:42Mikachudrakonik: just to be sure, reboot it in the ipod firmware and let it charge for two hours, without doing anything with it in the meantime
17:29:01drakonikWhich is strange, cause I never had an iota of trouble till I started messing with Rockbox. To be fair though, I didn't really try doing anything AT ALL with it till I started dicking with Rockbox
17:29:17drakonikIt's in the ipod firmware right now
17:29:19drakonikcharging up
17:29:24Mikachuwell, wait a while then :)
17:30:13drakonikAnother question: what exactly does the database scan pick up? Cause I know I've only got less than a thousand song files here, but the scan say it's picking up 1300 or more before it crashes.
17:31:52drakonikDoes it detect every single file in the file system? If so, then the config files...might be getting scanned. Hm.
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17:32:34GodEaterthe .rockbox directory has a database.ignore file in it, which prevents the database scan from looking at anything in that directory structure.
17:32:46GodEaterelswhere, it scans every file - since it doesnt' know what's music and what isn't till it opens it
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17:36:18drakonikOh wow.
17:36:42drakonikThere's nothing but .rockbox on my ipod, and the database scan is still finding 1000 files
17:36:57LloreanAnd you're sure there's no trash folder or recycle bin?
17:37:28drakonik99%, I have Explorer set to show me hidden/system folders and I see nothing
17:37:34drakonikI dunno how else to check, though.
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17:38:02Tornefailing anything else, dir /a
17:38:17LloreanOr set Rockbox to show all files, and browse in Rockbox.
17:38:20drakonikUnfortunately, it's not crashing. Which means that it IS the music's fault
17:40:30GodEaterTorne: I think "ls" works failing anything else too ;)
17:40:40LloreanGodEater: I'm pretty sure the Gigabeat S also has the pause on unplug feature
17:40:42*Llorean goes to dig up his nano
17:40:54GodEaterLlorean: is it supported yet tho ? :)
17:41:01Mikachudrakonik: you didn't charge for 2 hours already, did you? ;)
17:41:03drakonikWindows doesn't support 'ls', unfortunately
17:41:07drakonikMikachu: I had a hunch
17:41:11drakonikI needed to try it
17:41:15Tornedir /a is fine ;)
17:42:17doink1212i am trying to setup my sansa clip with rockbox, but it wont mount on ubuntu, how do i reset the mount point (i think rhythmbox took the default settings)
17:42:23drakonikYep, no trash folders, no nothing
17:43:00drakonikgonna run the scan again, see what I can see
17:43:07Tornedo you not even have iPod_Control?
17:43:09Torneand hte other Apple folders?
17:43:10LloreanGodEater: Well, if we change the requirements for supported like is discussed it will be *much* closer
17:43:24drakonikTorne: I removed them.
17:43:35drakonikTo make sure that .rockbox, which is supposed to be ignored, is the only directory
17:43:40Tornehm. then if it still claims there are >1000 files your filesystem is probably corrupt :)
17:43:55drakonikAnd with naught but Rockbox installed, I've got 674 hits for the database
17:43:56LloreanGodEater: My Nano pauses on headphone unplug just fine
17:44:07drakonikGonna see what I can do to wipe my ipod
17:44:18GodEaterLlorean: and does a rewind too ?
17:44:27Tornedrakonik: you could just format it, though you may need a special tool to do so on windows if it's a large drive
17:44:40drakonikYeah, I'm gonna reformat it
17:44:48LloreanGodEater: Rewind's a software issue. He was talking about it not detecting the unplug at all - thought maybe teh hardware wasn't present
17:45:19GodEaterLlorean: I invite you to chime into the thread then
17:45:25LloreanImma update to SVn
17:45:31LloreanMy current build is about 16 days old
17:45:36drakonikwell shit
17:45:43*GodEater 'sbuild is usually much older
17:45:43LloreanJust to verify it hasn't broken recently
17:45:52Tornedrakonik: sounds like you've discovered something :)
17:45:54GodEaterhe refers to 3.3 doesn't he ?
17:46:05drakonikFormatting doesn't work.
17:46:12drakonikAt least, a non "Quick Format"
17:46:16Torneis your ipod over 32GB by any chance?
17:46:27Tornewindows refuses to format FAT32 filesystems bigger than that
17:46:34drakonikNope, 27.85 effective gigs of memory
17:46:50Torne...then that sounds like you have a problem :)
17:46:54*GodEater assumes drakonik means storage
17:47:02LloreanGodEater: Don't remember. But if it works for me with a pre-3.3 and a post-3.3 build, he's probably either got hardware issues.
17:47:05drakonikEh, same thing
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17:47:10GodEaterno it's not
17:47:15LloreanGodEater: *Or* he forgot that it's a feature that needs turned on.
17:47:51drakonikAlright, format successful.
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17:50:04drakonikMinor improvement, it only found 275 files this time.
17:51:10drakonikAnd now I play EVE while I let it charge up.
17:51:38Tornethat's about right for the .rockbox folder
17:51:53GodEaterexcept it shouldn't scan that
17:52:20drakonikPrecisely. And if the database is scanning things it shouldn't, then it's possible that even valid music files might be causing problems.
17:52:24Torneisn't this the thing with unignore we were discussing the other day?
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17:52:57drakonikWhich is why I'm hoping to figure this out before I start trying to find a single music file that is screwing things up
17:53:21Lloreandrakonik: Even if valid music files ARE the problem, you still need to identify which ones
17:53:33LloreanAnd that still requires you to track down which one of your valid files is the problem
17:53:58drakonikYeah. I'm just hoping that the database scanner itself is broken, as opposed to my files.
17:54:06drakonikso much work
17:54:12Tornei'd try scanning mine but i have 70GB of music on there
17:54:16Torneso rescanning the db will take a while :)
17:54:23drakonikBut I can put it off for a few hours while the thing charges
17:55:29Torneare we actually going to commit the ipod charging patch at some point? :)
17:55:49Tornei thought we came to the conclusion that its behaviour was no worse than what we already do on lots of targets
17:56:30LloreanThe sooner the better. Probably should start a -dev thread asking what's holding it up, that way we can make sure everything's cleared up and that there's an easy to find record that "yeah, we can go ahead now"
17:56:40LloreanGodEater: Still trying to test on my Nano
17:56:48LloreanApparently RButil 1.2 had some issues.
17:56:53Tornesomeone already *did* start that thread
17:56:55Torneand it petered out :)
17:58:45*Torne looks
17:59:16LloreanMaybe the question is "should we unify how it works on other targets"?
18:00:32Tornehrm. actually it might not have had enough testing on some ipod models
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18:01:59LloreanGodEater: Okay, confirmed. Works in SVN build, 16 day old build, and 3.3
18:02:07*Llorean posts about it.
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18:26:13saratoga_i need to write up another svn invite email . . .
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18:41:29rasherdrakonik: do you have a file in .rockbox named "database.ignore" ?
18:42:24rasherAnd it hasn't gone missing since you last checked?
18:42:43drakonikI'll check again, jsut to be sure
18:43:04LloreanWouldn't the simplest check to be put a new MP3 file with some specific metadata in .rockbox, then see if it shows up in the database?
18:43:26LloreanThen you'd know instantly whether it was really ignoring those files or not. It has to at least look through them somewhat to look for database.unignore, right?
18:43:43drakonikOnce it charges up more, I'll try that.
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18:48:21drakonikits there
18:48:44BdN3504hey can anyone with a little bit of sansa knowledge help me out?
18:49:05BdN3504i have a e270 v1 and been running rockbox on it for over a year without any major issues
18:49:22saratoga_ask question
18:49:26BdN3504now i can't get the device to connect to my windows xp pcs
18:49:37BdN3504the rb bootloader loads the of
18:49:45BdN3504and the of is stuck at the language
18:49:51BdN3504screen but does not enter usb mode
18:49:58BdN3504when i insert the cable
18:50:06BdN3504without pressing any buttons
18:50:15saratoga_which rockbox are you using
18:50:24BdN3504the last release (3.3
18:50:41saratoga_use rockbox's USB mode instead of the OF's
18:51:15BdN3504how do i do that? i only know of forcing the player into of usb mode, how do i force it to use rb?
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18:51:47saratoga_turn on rockbox, plug in usb cable
18:51:56BdN3504sry dumb me
18:53:08BdN3504ok rb usb works, but i thought it's loaded by default when the player is off and i plug in usb? has this behaviour changed?
18:53:44saratoga_it will be whenever we get around to releasing the updated bootloader
18:54:05saratoga_theres an FS task with the new bootloader if you want to try it
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18:55:12BdN3504thanks for the info, so this behaviour is the standard behaviour now?
18:55:38LloreanWhat's "now" about it?
18:55:41s0u][ighthello, i'm an ipod nano 3g owner, does anyone know anything about dfu mode on this device, or tryed interacting with the device in this mode
18:55:44LloreanThe bootloader hasn't changed in ages.
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19:08:21val3hi all, can anyone plz help me to proper config my favourite theme Dark_Geek for my Ipod 5G/ Rockbox 3,3 ?!
19:14:17saratoga_i think themes in the graveyard don't work
19:16:52LloreanYeah, you'll need to read the CustomWps wiki page and manually rewrite any parts of it that are invalid.
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19:18:34val3well ok "rewriting" a theme is that a job which is done in 30min or do you need years of experience in rockbox to do the job ?! :>
19:18:54BdN3504it's pretty easy
19:18:55LloreanDepends on how quickly you learn.
19:19:03LloreanBut it shouldn't take long, and requires no previous experience.
19:19:06BdN3504if you already have done it
19:19:31saratoga_its probably easiest to just not pick themes in the graveyard
19:19:33BdN3504take a look at the wpsguide
19:20:35val3hehe oki i will have a look thx
19:20:35BdN3504most themes that need fixing only require you to rewrite the progress bar code, because not much has changed in the wps part of rb code
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19:21:28BdN3504you also might experience that some things are not displayed right on the screen, i.e. somewhere else than they should be
19:21:50val3i just love that theme pretty simple but shows all the information you need i dont like the new ones that much
19:21:53bertrikthe crashes on the clip are probably caused by lack of memory, moving the stacks from dram to iram made them disappear for me (but had to decrease the codec buffer size to make the stacks fit)
19:22:20BdN3504it's best if you open the bmps of the theme in an image viewer which show you the coordinates in that picture
19:23:29BdN3504open the corresponding wps file with a text editor and try to connect the coordinates given in that with the ones you have in the images.
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19:29:40JdGordonim almost scared to ask..... is there going to be any complaints if I commmit 10406 once the rec screen is fixed for it?
19:33:29kugelI'm not
19:33:43kugelgoing to complain
19:35:20saratoga_betrik: how much memory did you need to save to avoid lock ups?
19:36:09bertrik0x2000 bytes
19:36:39saratoga_thats almost nothing
19:36:57saratoga_how could so little memory make such a difference
19:37:45bertrikit could be corrupting some other piece of memory that is not critical to playback ...
19:38:11bertrikI'm still not sure what really happens when playback stops
19:38:31bertrikit does often seem to stop quite gracefully (meaning it can simply be restarted)
19:38:32saratoga_can it be duplicated in the sim if the compressed buffer is made small enough?
19:39:54bertrikI don't know, the sim probably uses a completely different memory map
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19:50:06amiconnUmm, the list of threads in the forum has a bug. Sorting by last post doesn't work
19:50:22saratoga_could someone try the current svn build on the clip and tell me if it boots?
19:50:39Lloreanamiconn: Which list of threads?
19:51:09amiconnAll lists which are like
19:51:34LloreanWorks fine for me.
19:51:38amiconnClick on the "Last post" header - it sorts somehow, but certainly not by date
19:51:55LloreanSorts by date for me, after the sticky
19:52:18amiconnEh, didn't notice the sticky. Confusing stuff....
19:53:18LloreanYeah, stickies can't be sorted I believe.
19:53:20pixelmato whom helped drakonik earlier - the count that the database scan displays is everything it finds (all files, not just music and I think it also counts files and folders as one each) and somehow I *think* that this is not influenced by database.ignore. Also, a try with no music files and only the .rockbox folder doesn't tell much as there is a long standing database bug - with FS# . Apologies if anything of this been said yet, currently skimming
19:53:20pixelma the logs...
19:53:28LloreanTo avoid them disappearing if someone changes their default sort preference.
19:53:50drakonikpixelma: I tried with no music files
19:53:51Lloreanpixelma: I'd imagine it wouldn't be influenced by database.ignore, because it still needs to look through those subfolders for database.unignore cases.
19:54:00drakonikAnd It came up withabout 275 hits
19:54:11drakonikDunno what it means, but there is it
19:54:16pixelmadrakonik: yes, and the database doesn't handle this case well
19:54:35drakonikBut yeah, once it's a bit more charged, I'll try it with a single music file
19:54:46rasherdrakonik: try with a few
19:54:54pixelmaand it will be all files on the disk - inckuding the .rockbox folder
19:54:56rasherif it finds no files to add to the db, it crashes
19:55:08Torne275 is about right for .rockbox
19:55:11Lloreanrasher: I thought that was finally fixed now.
19:55:19rasherCould be
19:55:27kugelpixelma: it actually displays tags found
19:55:31pixelmacan't remember seeing a fix
19:55:56kugelso it might count up by 10 or so per file
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19:56:18drakonikin fac, it's been charging for three or four hours now, should be good to go
19:56:30pixelmaI remember being told differently...
19:56:59pixelmawhat tags would it find in .rockbox?
19:57:20Lloreankugel: I also was told it's a count of total files and folders, not tags or music files.
19:57:21kugelno idea, it always displayed 0 if I had no music
19:57:53LloreanBefore it crashed?
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19:58:26kugelit doesn't crash, it just stucks (or did that change recently?)
19:58:56pixelmaI seem to remeber it displaying 600 something (with fonts and some other extras)
19:59:02pixelmaremember it too
19:59:18Torne275 is about right with no extras, just the main build
19:59:23Tornei checked :)
19:59:30drakonikI know the answer is probably 'no' but it's worth asking. I've got a JVC ipod jack to take audio output from my ipod into my truck's stereo system, is there any chance it'd work with rockbox?
19:59:47Tornedrakonik: it probably will work at least partially
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19:59:56kugelthen it maybe changed recently. for me, it always stucked with count being 0, I haven't tried that for some month though
20:00:00Tornethe audio out on the dock Just Works, rockbox doesn't ahve to do anything to make it work
20:00:09Tornebeing able to control the ipod from accessories is hit and miss though
20:00:09pixelmaTorne: could you check how many files and folders it is in a PC app?
20:00:13Tornesome accessories work, some don't
20:00:27Tornepixelma: i downloaded the current build for my player and asked explorer, yes
20:00:30Torneand it was about 275
20:00:32Tornei forget exactly
20:00:43drakonikalso, with a single mp3 file, the database initializes correctly
20:00:53pixelmaah, I thought that was the number the database displayed
20:00:56Tornedrakonik: the only thing you may have to do is there's a setting for whether to turnon accessory power supply or not. if it doesn't work, change that. :)
20:00:58drakonikDoesn't scan up hundreds of non-existent files
20:01:18LloreanTorne: It really shouldn't be needed for a in-car unit, I should hope
20:01:33pixelmakugel: on your e200?
20:01:40TorneLlorean: you'd hope so
20:01:44kugelpixelma: on my e200 it always counts up to some 4k, I certainly don't have that many files and folders
20:02:08drakonikLet's see if things are still broken.
20:02:21kugelpixelma: yea
20:02:25kugelalso in the sim
20:04:31JdGordongevaerts: whats the story with usb serial? or what needs to be done to get it to work as a reaplcement for the ipods regular serial port?
20:05:00gevaertsJdGordon: what do you mean?
20:05:41pixelmathen my *guess* is that the number just doesn't increase fast enough before the crash happens. I was very confused on entering a database "folder" and it displays the number of files in that folder - and the number only being 0 on my Ondio. Then I've been told that the scan just finishes quick enough that you don't see the update which only happens every now and then
20:06:00JdGordonI want to try getting ipod accessories over usb going, I assume they just use usb serial and the same protocol
20:06:07pixelma^kugel ...probably easier to notice on a HD target
20:06:20drakonikI despise Windows and explorer so much.
20:06:31drakonikI can't even create a new folder without locking it up for five minutes
20:07:13gevaertsJdGordon: I have no real idea, but I somehow doubt that they use standard usb CDC with the ipod being the device-side
20:08:59kugelwhat crash btw? I never experienced a crash with zero music
20:09:46kugelpixelma: progress is only shown after 0.5 seconds, you basically never see that on a flash based target
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20:10:15kugelpixelma: that's "hang", not "crash"
20:10:50kugelhanging is what I experienced too, but the player responded perfectly for the rest of rockbox (because database stuff runs in its own thread)
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20:11:27JdGordongevaerts: any suggestions how to try it anyway? I want to use my 5.5g with my av reciever and it works over a regular usb cable...
20:11:54Torneyou mean it just connects like a PC would?
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20:12:12gevaertsJdGordon: if you plug it in, does the ipod detect a USB connection?
20:12:44JdGordonit connects to the ipod as an ipod with full control... other usb devices are msc
20:13:42pixelmakugel: I did - if it hung (also the Ondio isn't exactly the fastest flash target, still lot better than HD ones when it comes to listing the content of a directory etc.)
20:14:16*gevaerts has no idea what JdGordon is trying to say
20:15:05Lloreangevaerts: IAP for iPods, plays MP3s found on a UMS device for other players, I guess.
20:15:11JdGordonthe av receiver takes full control over the ipod like you would expect (and puts a nice pioneeer logo on it), but over a standard usb cable
20:15:41gevaertsJdGordon: what happens if you plug it in when rockbox is running?
20:15:42JdGordonyeah, any other devie just connects over ums
20:15:50JdGordonconnect as ums
20:17:20Tornei might speculate that it's using scsi commands over ums rather than usb serial or similar
20:17:28gevaertscould be
20:17:31Torneas itunes already does that for a couple of things
20:17:34JdGordonsorry, no... unsupported ipod
20:17:48gevaertsJdGordon: any chance of bringing it to DCW?
20:18:02JdGordonnot a chance.... WAY too heavy
20:18:17Tornescsi over ums would also work nicely with compatibility, you just open everything as mass storage then see if it knows the command
20:18:24JdGordonwho has the usb sniffer thingy?
20:18:50gevaertsI have it here
20:19:03gevaertsI could bring it to DCW, and then you take it home
20:19:19JdGordonsounds good if its not being used :)
20:21:49Torneif it was scsi commands we could presumably dump that in rockbox?
20:22:29gevaertspossibly, but we'd have no idea what to send back
20:22:44Torne...good point
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20:23:09Tornebut maybe useful as a quick check if it's something easyish to do
20:25:46LloreanThey may even be recognizable as similar to the IAP commands, just a different delivery method?
20:26:31Tornei'm only suspecting this because itunes does it for timesetting and because it's hard to see how it would present any *other* interface over usb with a regular dock cable
20:26:45gevaertsit's certainly possible
20:28:22JdGordonim game to try anything here...
20:28:46*Torne has a look in the ata driver to see how easy it would be
20:28:53Torneer not ata driver
20:28:58Torneusb stack
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20:30:22gevaertsTorne: have a look at for the clock setting thing
20:30:33Torneit logf's the command
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20:30:36Tornebut not any parameters
20:30:40Tornefor unknown requests.
20:30:57Tornecould easily be made to dump more of the request i guess
20:31:07Tornehandle_scsi in usb_storage.c
20:31:09gevaertsof course
20:32:21TorneJdGordon: worth a try, just have it logf the entire request as a hexdump :)
20:32:30gevaertsit probably starts out by getting this xml descriptor
20:33:00Torneah right so you might need bits of that patch first to make it start talking? :)
20:33:20JdGordongevaerts: why is your patch so much smaller than rashers?
20:33:47gevaertsJdGordon: those patches don't supercede each other
20:34:14gevaertsThe first one is for itunes compatibility without clock setting, the second one is only the clock setting bit
20:34:27JdGordonah ok
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20:37:52BryanJacobsbuilds are not happening out of tree for me... -_-
20:38:10BryanJacobs"rockbox/build/apps/abrepeat.o: could not read symbols: File in wrong format"
20:38:23BryanJacobsafter doing a target build and then a sim build
20:38:31Llorean will show you if builds are expected to work.
20:38:47mcuelenaereBryanJacobs: tried doing make clean?
20:38:50LloreanIf they're good there, we're going to need to know what's different in your environment from just being a clean build in a new folder.
20:38:55BryanJacobsmcuelenaere: right before "make"
20:39:08mcuelenaereBryanJacobs: using ccache?
20:39:27BryanJacobsmcuelenaere: no, and that would affect it anyway because differing arch == auto cache miss
20:39:33gevaertsBryanJacobs: does make clean actually clean things?
20:39:40BryanJacobsgevaerts: apparently not
20:39:53BryanJacobsthis is a dirty source tree but a fresh ../tools/configure'd build dir
20:40:12BryanJacobsso, something isn't building out of tree and thus isn't getting cleaned by make clean
20:40:15LloreanIf it's a fresh directory, why'd you make clean?
20:40:32BryanJacobsLlorean: it failed the first time on a different .o file
20:40:40BryanJacobsthen I did make clean, then make and it failed again
20:40:57gevaertsBryanJacobs: did you re-run configure before running make clean?
20:41:00Mikachuyour disk isn't full?
20:41:12BryanJacobsMikachu: 27G left
20:41:17BryanJacobsgevaerts: no, I didn't
20:41:24BryanJacobswhy would I have to?
20:41:39Lloreangevaerts: Well, if the first run after configure in a new folder fails, what's clean going to do?
20:41:58gevaertsBryanJacobs: you don't. It could have explained a different make clean behaviour
20:42:54BryanJacobseverything seems to be compiling fine, it's just not linking...
20:43:06Mikachuthe file it complains about, it isn't 0-sized?
20:43:17BryanJacobsMikachu: I can't actually find it at all
20:43:40BryanJacobsfound the problem!
20:43:47*Mikachu takes full credit
20:43:50BryanJacobsI renamed my build directory before building it
20:44:01BryanJacobsmv build build-sim; cd build-sim; make
20:44:03BryanJacobslike that
20:44:13Mikachuwell, that doesn't work :)
20:44:24BryanJacobsit SHOULD!
20:44:36BryanJacobsI mean, it should call getpwd() instead of caching the path when you run configure
20:44:43BryanJacobserr, getcwd
20:45:27gevaertsBryanJacobs: IIRC that was done because it significantly speeds up cygwin builds
20:45:38gevaertsor no...
20:45:44*gevaerts was thinking about something else
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21:29:04GodEatergevaerts: did we end up using the dfu-util thingy on the meizu for anything?
21:32:08gevaertsGodEater: what do you mean? We use it to get code on the meizus
21:32:52GodEaterI couldn't remember if it was something we required, or we did because we could ;)
21:33:34gevaertsthere's a windows tool for it, so we didn't strictly require it
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21:37:42GodEatergevaerts: I'm just following the instructions on the linux4nano wiki for getting a 3G nano into dfu mode
21:37:52GodEaterso I can hopefully try fiddling with our dfu-util a little more
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21:41:33bertrikGodEater, I'm using the meizu_dfu tool on linux, works just as expected
21:41:48saratoga_funman: (for the logs) I can play music for an hour or more on my clip with no lockup, but dftk using the same build (i sent him my binary) can't even boot
21:42:01saratoga_i wonder whats going on
21:42:05GodEaterbertrik: but to talk to a meizu right ? :)
21:42:14bertrikGodEater, yes
21:46:24*GodEater adds a bunch of stuff about the 3G to the Nano2G wiki page.
21:46:33GodEatermight be the wrong place, but we can always move it
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21:46:51GodEaterI figure they're similar enough whilst the "port" is in an early enough stage!
21:47:53n00b81cmwslw will re-organize data if it needs to be, don't worry :)
21:49:31kugelsaratoga_: did he update the bootloader?
21:49:38kugelalso, what did you change?
21:49:52saratoga_he said he just compiled it from current SVN, but i sent him mind and asked him to try
21:49:55saratoga_mine is clean svn
21:50:24kugelsvn works now for the clip?
21:50:41kugeliirc we were still having the problem during the devcon
21:51:04saratoga_you want to try my binary?
21:51:37kugelno need, my clip is broken anyway
22:00:41GodEatern00b81: that's OUR wiki I was referring to ;)
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22:00:58GodEaterI've added info to your wiki too though
22:01:02n00b81GodEater: ah, in that case,
22:01:07n00b81do whatever you want to it :)
22:01:34GodEaterhehe - thanks :)
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22:30:16bertrikany IIS experts here?
22:30:44taylor_Internet information services?
22:31:19bertrikI wonder if IIS communication requires acknowledgement from the codec or if data can just be sent one-way
22:32:43bertrikif I have to explain what IIS means in a rockbox context, then you probably won't know the answer :)
22:34:15kugelIIS != I2S?
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22:36:19CIA-71New commit by kugel (r21623): test test test
22:36:34pixelmanice one
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22:36:49GodEatercommit message of the year
22:37:03rasherGodEater: not to mention the actual changes:
22:37:35kugelthat was my git-svn testing stuff :(
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22:38:55GodEaterkugel: your secret is safe with us
22:39:03GodEaterand everyone else that reads the subversion logs ;)
22:39:24*scorche|sh pats kugel gently on the head
22:39:24rasherAnd the front page
22:40:26GodEaterreads the subversion logs by any means :)
22:42:46CIA-71New commit by kugel (r21624): Still failing at git-svn, but I won't give up! The previous commit ...
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22:47:12rasherWhat the heck happened for the X5?
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22:56:12saratoga_kugel: dftk says my bootloader and main build do not work on his clip, but they're fine on mine
23:06:02mcuelenaeregevaerts: could a thread not ack'ing SYS_USB_CONNECTED cause USB resets?
23:06:23bertrikI'm working on getting s5l8700 pcm/dma working, but no luck yet
23:06:55gevaertsmcuelenaere: I'd need to check. Before jhMikeS reworked the USB init, it couldn't. Now, I'm not sure.
23:07:54gevaertsYou could tweak usb.c a bit to reduce the number of expected acks to check this
23:08:59dfktsaratoga_, the bootloader works (same as my own build), but the firmware/main builds newer than 21550 don't work with it
23:09:18saratoga_21550 is definately the one that broke it?
23:09:22dfkti could try an older bootloader with a new build.. that's the only combination i didn't try
23:09:46dfkt21550 is the last one i had at hand... i compiled 21600 and 21610, both of which didn't work
23:10:11saratoga_but 21550 did work?
23:10:55saratoga_i suppose if you could narrow it down that would help getting it fixed
23:11:44dfktthere's not much more to say than what i wrote in the ABI thread... but i will try an older bootloader with a current firmware build, just to make sure
23:12:22saratoga_i don't think thats going to help
23:12:53saratoga_theres a bunch of changes to the SD driver between 21550 and 21600, one of them might have intermittant issues on some units
23:13:00mcuelenaeregevaerts: ok, that didn't fix my problem; thanks
23:13:21dfkthmmm, narrowing down in the sense that i get specific builds from svn really takes a long time
23:13:37dfktis that what you mean?
23:13:52saratoga_well 6 builds shouldn't take you more then a half hour i think?
23:13:55dfktalright, so it's between 21550 and 21600
23:14:01dfkti'll check
23:14:34saratoga_do we still have a mirror of old SVN builds?
23:14:52dfktthat would help a lot
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23:17:35mcuelenaerehmm crap, USB is even broken in SVN.. (Onda VX747)
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23:21:05GodEaterdoes anyone know if Lamda made any progress with using dfu-util with his Nano 2G ?
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23:37:38GodEatergevaerts: still here ?
23:37:55*gevaerts yawns and stands to attention
23:38:13GodEatercould you please come to linux4nano-dev
23:38:21GodEatersomeone has questions about our dfu-util :)
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23:38:36gevaertsYou mean I'm expected to actually know things about it?
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