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| 00:14:16 | * | gevaerts thinks that maybe the build clients should send an email address along when connecting |
| 00:14:32 | Zagor | that might be a good idea |
| 00:14:46 | pixelma | hmm... how should that work? |
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| 00:15:06 | pixelma | silly me, I overlooked the "address" |
| 00:15:10 | Zagor | I've already had to dig up one person's email to ask that he look at his client |
| 00:15:11 | bertrik | hm, we don't really have a well-established way to tell codecs to turn on their analog input for fm radio it seems |
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| 00:15:37 | bertrik | faking it by calling it 'monitoring' or something like that |
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| 00:17:18 | mcuelenaere | Zagor: could you add a VX747 sim to the build table? (there are no Onda sims being built currently) |
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| 00:17:59 | Zagor | mcuelenaere: you can do it too. just add a line to www/buildserver/builds |
| 00:18:25 | Zagor | if you ask nicely maybe gevaerts will do a benchmark build for it, too :) |
| 00:18:28 | * | gevaerts runs off to find the appropriate score |
| 00:19:07 | mcuelenaere | Zagor: ah, but still don't you need to update the build server? (eg do svn up)? |
| 00:19:19 | Zagor | no it does that by itself |
| 00:19:26 | mcuelenaere | ah nice :) |
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| 00:21:13 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: your magic number (a.k.a. score) is 13810 |
| 00:21:26 | mcuelenaere | is that the last column? |
| 00:21:29 | gevaerts | yes |
| 00:21:36 | * | mcuelenaere already wondered about those |
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| 00:23:30 | CIA-69 | New commit by mcuelenaere (r21973): Add Onda VX747 simulator build |
| 00:27:09 | pixelma | what's up with the bootloader yellows (rasher's cygwin server and pyros-roolku) |
| 00:27:16 | pixelma | ? |
| 00:27:35 | roolku | pyros is cygwin as well |
| 00:27:40 | gevaerts | Zagor: another wild and probably stupid idea : maybe the score cutoff should take into account which arches the client can build |
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| 00:31:09 | Zagor | gevaerts: yeah, it makes sense. |
| 00:32:11 | gevaerts | it does make some sense. The question is if we want to complicate things for that, and if we want to encourage selected-arch clients |
| 00:32:49 | roolku | pixelma: maybe it wants an explicit cast? |
| 00:34:41 | saratoga | stripwax: if you get a chance, could you profile cook ? I'd help mt figure out where best to optmize it |
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| 00:36:05 | Zagor | mc2739: is your net connection crappy? I get ping timeouts and lots of very slow ping responses from you. |
| 00:37:05 | mc2739 | Zagor: yes I have been having problems with my provider |
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| 00:38:46 | mc2739 | Zagor: if it is causing problems, I can shut down my client until they get it fixed |
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| 00:39:19 | Zagor | no it's fine. I just wanted to make sure it's on your side. |
| 00:39:36 | Zagor | some "unstable" clients is actually good for testing |
| 00:41:21 | stripwax | saratoga - where would I find some example files? |
| 00:41:27 | stripwax | I don't use realaudio at all |
| 00:41:29 | saratoga | stripwax: i'll upload mine right now |
| 00:41:48 | stripwax | I won't be able to profile tonight −− maybe tomorrow evening at the earliest |
| 00:41:55 | saratoga | thats fine |
| 00:42:14 | CIA-69 | New commit by roolku (r21974): cast explicitly to unsigned int (fix yellow on cygwin) |
| 00:42:29 | saratoga | stripwax: http://www.duke.edu/~mgg6/rockbox/cook_sample64.rm |
| 00:42:34 | mc2739 | gevaerts: re: microsd problem on boot - it seems to work correctly on usb connect |
| 00:42:52 | saratoga | whenever you have a chance will be fine, I would just like some idea where the codec uses its time |
| 00:42:59 | stripwax | amiconn - with your recent mdct_arm.S changes, what did you use to measure speedup (test_codec, or some tight loop, or something else)? |
| 00:43:07 | saratoga | in the meantime there are plenty of things to fix |
| 00:43:09 | gevaerts | mc2739: I actually suspected that, but I hadn't tried yet. Thanks for the information! |
| 00:43:16 | stripwax | saratoga - thanks |
| 00:43:18 | saratoga | stripwax: weren't those done by Unhelpful ? |
| 00:43:28 | gevaerts | so it's really the disk_mount() code that misses it |
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| 00:45:35 | CIA-69 | New commit by bertrik (r21975): Update the uda1380 codec driver to allow it to be used without the WSPLL for playback and allow the use of a 256Fs clock signal directly at the SYSCLK ... |
| 00:45:38 | stripwax | saratoga - gosh, you're right. I guess I just assumed it was amiconn :) |
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| 00:46:03 | saratoga | he asked about benchmarking it iirc, and I suggested test_codec, but I'm not sure if thats what he used |
| 00:46:15 | stripwax | Unhelpful - is that what you used? |
| 00:46:28 | saratoga | as always, if anyone is really interseted in mdct performance, they're welcome to my half finished split radix mdct code! |
| 00:47:30 | saratoga | anyway i have to run, good night |
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| 00:49:47 | mcuelenaere | gevaerts: why were the SD (& MMC) drivers put before the NAND drivers in the multistorage driver? |
| 00:50:09 | mcuelenaere | wouldn't that make SD always disk 0? (even though disk 0 should be non-removable) |
| 00:50:26 | gevaerts | probably for no good reason at all... |
| 00:50:52 | roolku | zagor: some oddity with the m:robe 100 SIM - who built it? |
| 00:50:56 | mcuelenaere | it wouldn't help the Onda, but it could solve some problems for the D2 perhaps.. |
| 00:51:31 | gevaerts | possibly. Let's talk to shotofadds about it before changing it though |
| 00:51:52 | gevaerts | I'd actually like to have a primary storage define which would always get 0 |
| 00:52:36 | gevaerts | that could possibly still give undesirable results if a target has three or more different drivers, but I think that's not likely to happen soon |
| 00:52:43 | Zagor | "Completed: build mrobe100sim client seattle-jdgordon seconds 47 uplink 0 score 204149" |
| 00:52:59 | stripwax | unhelpful - if you're able to measure stalls on armv6 and up, would I be right in saying most of mdct_butterfly_16 incurs one cycle stall for each add/rsb combination? |
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| 00:53:44 | Torne | stripwax: shouldn't be, if you just mean successive ALU ops |
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| 00:54:11 | Torne | everything but multiply in the alu is trivial and has result feedback paths, afaik |
| 00:54:12 | stripwax | Torne - for example, add r9, r9, r5 ; rsb r10, r9, r5, asl |
| 00:54:39 | stripwax | Because the rsb op depends on the result of the add, won't that stall? |
| 00:54:41 | Zagor | "Fatal build error: Missing log file. Disabling client." but there is obviously a bug because nobody else was assigned it... |
| 00:54:49 | mcuelenaere | gevaerts: hmm yes, a primary storage define would solve it too |
| 00:54:54 | Torne | it shouldn't, because the ALU feeds results directly back into itself |
| 00:55:08 | gevaerts | I'll see if I can come up with a clean way to do that tomorrow |
| 00:55:09 | stripwax | Ah, neat. Thanks |
| 00:55:25 | Torne | it works differently for multiply but the others should be fine |
| 00:55:37 | gevaerts | The volume names also still need a bit of work |
| 00:55:48 | * | mcuelenaere wonders where the assumptions are made that drive 0 should always be present, apps/ or firmware/ ? |
| 00:56:01 | stripwax | The Tremolo guy has a heavily-annotated mdct by the way (not sure if it's useful but appears to note stalls on xscale) - might come in handy? |
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| 00:58:35 | sirninja | I can't get my database to work. I've put the file database.ignore in all the folders except where I keep my music and I'll start initializing, but it will still say there's 900 files somehow and if I check database info under debug, it says initialized: yes, db ready: no, progress: -1% |
| 00:59:01 | gevaerts | mcuelenaere: I can't find a specific place now, but there's at least the fact that the <microSDxx> things appear as virtual subdirectories in the root. Now if you take the root away... |
| 00:59:42 | pixelma | sirninja: which player do you have? |
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| 01:00:03 | sirninja | pixelma: 5th generation ipod video |
| 01:00:05 | mcuelenaere | gevaerts: I've had Rockbox function fine without root |
| 01:00:15 | mcuelenaere | functioning* |
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| 01:00:32 | mcuelenaere | I was unmounting the wrong disk to invoke the effect though :) |
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| 01:00:44 | gevaerts | that's cheating :) |
| 01:02:00 | mcuelenaere | Rockbox is forcing me to cheat! |
| 01:02:10 | pixelma | sirninja: it sounds like the initialise finishes correctly (disk activity stops). If that's true, how do you reboot your Ipod afterwards? |
| 01:02:35 | sirninja | hold down the play/pause button. is that what I'm supposed to do? |
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| 01:03:58 | pixelma | hmm, yes that's correct. And you don't see a splash "Committing database" on next boot? |
| 01:04:20 | sirninja | no. it just acts as if I never initialized it |
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| 01:08:09 | sirninja | nevermind. I just completely reinstalled everything and it appears to be working now |
| 01:09:35 | sirninja | just curious, is there any way to get out of that usb screen you get when you plug it into the computer? |
| 01:10:32 | gevaerts | you mean except by unplugging? |
| 01:10:43 | sirninja | yeah |
| 01:12:08 | gevaerts | yes and no. You can connect in charge-only mode by holding a specific key (the manual knows which one that is for your player), but you can't go to that mode without unplugging first |
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| 01:14:02 | gevaerts | also note that on ipod there's still an issue that rockbox doesn't always charge properly from USB, which is why the latest release still reboots to the Apple disk mode for USB |
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| 01:20:13 | kkurbjun | JdGordon: if you want any help with openocd let me know, I would be happy to try and offer insight on it |
| 01:20:19 | kkurbjun | where are you with it now? |
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| 01:34:40 | JdGordon | kkurbjun: hey, same as before, except now im pretty sure my openocd install is broken... |
| 01:34:54 | funman | saratoga: the SD slot pins look accessible enough, I don't know how a "spectrum analyser" looks like however |
| 01:35:35 | funman | saratoga: I'll bug you until this task reaches the top of your TODO list, I would like to see stable SD access on Sansa AMS .. |
| 01:35:53 | Zagor | ooops. /me accidentally disabled flyspray |
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| 01:37:11 | JdGordon | and nothing of value was lost :p |
| 01:38:03 | * | funman mentions JdGordon only flyspray has the other copy of clipv2 code |
| 01:39:13 | CIA-69 | New commit by kkurbjun (r21976): M:Robe 500: Add Rockbox logo for 640x480 and 480x640. |
| 01:41:29 | * | linuxstb expects a big binsize increase... |
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| 01:42:17 | kkurbjun | Yeah, I do too :-D |
| 01:42:29 | linuxstb | Is it worth it? |
| 01:42:30 | JdGordon | isnt it still set to 320x240? |
| 01:42:43 | kkurbjun | M:robe has memory to spare - it's a much nicer presentation |
| 01:42:46 | funman | how much memory does the m:robe500 has? |
| 01:43:15 | kkurbjun | actually, JdGordon is right, binsize won't increase now - it will when the defines are changed so that it runs in vga mode |
| 01:44:21 | funman | saratoga: http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/products/flash/images/img_mmc11.gif shows which pin is the clock (5th pin where left pin is pin 1, and up left corner is truncated, and pins are visible) |
| 01:44:38 | kkurbjun | it has 64 MB, I guess it's not a ton, but enough for nearly anything after you take out the logo and the like - I was thinking about that and I wonder if there would be a way to store the logo in the plugin buffer or audio buffer so that when you actually do a load you get that memory back |
| 01:45:22 | JdGordon | we dont really *need* a splash... |
| 01:45:55 | kkurbjun | no, it's not really needed on any target |
| 01:46:21 | linuxstb | Most targets could (do?) display it in the bootloader anyway... |
| 01:46:22 | funman | kkurbjun: I would bother when rockbox will have trouble functioning on this color, 132x80x16 lcd player with 2.32MB of SDRAM |
| 01:47:24 | kkurbjun | linuxstb: is there a define to disable it in the main build? I thought it is always displayed in the main build |
| 01:47:40 | linuxstb | kkurbjun: Not yet... |
| 01:48:26 | kkurbjun | hmm, I agree it would be nicer in the bootloader that would ave the memory easier than hacking it into the linker script |
| 01:49:20 | JdGordon | there isnt a gui frontend to openocd is there? |
| 01:49:22 | funman | what's the point of saving 0.009% of SDRAM here? |
| 01:49:39 | funman | oops, 0.9% |
| 01:50:00 | kkurbjun | JdGordon: no, you can use gdb with it and I think there are frontends for that |
| 01:50:13 | kkurbjun | but I've always just used it in a terminal |
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| 01:50:36 | funman | JdGordon: you can follow the 1 month old http://openocd-gui.sourceforge.net/ |
| 01:50:55 | JdGordon | yeah, just saw that |
| 01:51:04 | linuxstb | kkurbjun: Do you have a bootloader on the m:robe 500? |
| 01:51:50 | kkurbjun | linuxstb: yes, but right now it is not really necessary, it will be once JdGordon starts flashing the device |
| 01:52:05 | JdGordon | if i get openocd going :/ |
| 01:52:44 | kkurbjun | there's 3 parts to the boot process right now, a small svg that uses hooks in the OF to load an image from the Hard drive to a known address, then the rockbox bootloader, and then the main build |
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| 01:53:14 | JdGordon | bugger.... cant play now |
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| 01:53:34 | kkurbjun | the bootloader could be eliminated, but it doesn't add much to the boot time |
| 01:53:51 | CIA-69 | New commit by kkurbjun (r21977): Fix Onda |
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| 02:04:04 | Unhelpful | stripwax: i think amiconn has a microbenchmark for mdct based on the one i put on pastebin a bit ago... if it's not in svn already maybe somebody ought to commit it :) |
| 02:04:37 | stripwax | sounds good |
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| 02:06:44 | funman | soap: I think rbutil doesn't see new current builds (with the change of build system) |
| 02:07:38 | DarkSpectrum | no it doesnt |
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| 02:11:46 | webguest39 | s their |
| 02:12:16 | webguest39 | Is there a rockbox for sansa version 2? |
| 02:12:39 | scorche | which sansa? |
| 02:13:10 | webguest39 | e260v2 |
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| 02:14:56 | funman | webguest39: it is at the moment in the testing phase, the known problems include file system crashes and corruption (for internal storage and microsd slot). More details at http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=22137.0 |
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| 02:16:40 | FlynDice | funman: I've tried a patch with the assumption that MCLK = CLK_IDE and it works fine for both internal and microsd on my e280v2. It does not make voltage scaling work for the uSD at 1.05v though. Init timeout still. http://pastie.org/551585 |
| 02:17:32 | funman | FlynDice: my main concern is the problems reported by testers |
| 02:18:31 | FlynDice | Do you think the MCLK = PCLK issue is not a factor with that? |
| 02:20:15 | funman | i didn't think about it, but now i don't think that's a problem - what is the error reported (by SD code) when using a lower voltage already? |
| 02:20:20 | Unhelpful | stripwax: i'll try to work up the macros i used into something fairly reusable... or should i just remove the things it actually benchmarks from my plugin and add it as bench_framework or something? |
| 02:21:43 | FlynDice | microSD init failed: -2 |
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| 02:23:07 | funman | FlynDice: 1 second timeout while waiting for the card to power up, so the commands are sent successfully and it is a powering problem |
| 02:24:34 | FlynDice | funman: yes it seems to be, but I thought perhaps the frequency issue might be the culpret |
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| 02:26:21 | FlynDice | funman: on another note, is there a reason we don't go to widebus (4 bit data transfer mode) or am I just missing it in the code? |
| 02:27:40 | funman | FlynDice: i think SET_BUS_WIDTH command with argument |= 2 (10b) selects 4 bits data transfer |
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| 02:34:32 | FlynDice | funman: Not for the card but for the pl180 MCI_CLOCK(i) bit 11 |
| 02:35:07 | funman | hum no there is no reason .. perhaps I had thought "let's see this when SD driver works fine" |
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| 02:37:17 | FlynDice | I can buy that, I've just found that assuming you've overlooked something is usually wrong...... |
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| 02:40:30 | Blob | is there anyway in rockbox 3.3 to force the time to be in 12 hour mode instead of 24 hour mode? |
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| 02:41:46 | funman | yes, just check the manual for where the setting is exactly |
| 02:42:22 | evilnick_home | Blob: Yes, IIRC there is a rough limit for m4b files |
| 02:44:32 | Blob | okay |
| 02:45:06 | Blob | any clue that that time limit might be? |
| 02:46:11 | evilnick_home | Have a search on the forums, I do remember other people mentioning it but I don't use audiobooks myself |
| 02:49:23 | Blob | took me a little bit to get used to rockbox, but I'm starting to really like it, though in the latest SVN build as of yesterday USB support wasn't working very well on the ipod mini first gen 4gb device |
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| 02:55:05 | DarkSpectrum | what does it mean when i see "fix red", "fix yellow" on the main page? |
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| 02:59:24 | funman | DarkSpectrum: bad commit messages for "fix compilation error(s)" and "fix compilation warning(s)" |
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| 03:21:58 | aidy | would it be possible to create a wps that displays text as part of the moving part of a progress bar? |
| 03:24:57 | JdGordon | kkurbjun: you still round? |
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| 04:53:53 | kkurbjun | JdGordon: I'm here now |
| 04:54:13 | JdGordon | wanna have another crack at getting openocd going? |
| 04:54:27 | Blob | Thanks for the work on RockBox all |
| 04:54:42 | JdGordon | i checked the connection in windows with the digilent software and it shows up so the soldering is all good |
| 04:55:21 | Blob | fpga development JdGordon? |
| 04:56:13 | JdGordon | we need to do some jtag fiddling for one of the in development targets |
| 04:57:55 | Blob | fun stuff |
| 04:58:37 | kkurbjun | sure, do you still have cat's configuration? |
| 04:59:34 | Blob | anything a starter in software programing via c/c++ but experiance with ASM and hardware development can do to help? |
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| 05:00:27 | JdGordon | kkurbjun: yeah, but openocd wont load it at all now.. i'm running 0.2.0 |
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| 05:01:38 | kkurbjun | JdGordon: you will need to edit the config for the jtag 3 . Blob, there's tons to help out with in rockbox - the jtag stuff is pretty specific and needs some hardware, mrsomeone's todo list is a good place for ideas of things that need/could be done or the gsoc page for projects people havn't taken up yet |
| 05:01:44 | kkurbjun | ahh |
| 05:02:05 | kkurbjun | so you're not using the ubuntu package for openocd? |
| 05:02:14 | JdGordon | i am... apparently they updated |
| 05:03:07 | kkurbjun | what message do you get when you start openocd? |
| 05:03:27 | kkurbjun | the version I have in 9.04 is labeled 1.0 (2008-11-26-09:52) |
| 05:04:23 | kkurbjun | in the config file change the parport_cable to dlc5 |
| 05:04:42 | kkurbjun | set reset_config to none too |
| 05:05:58 | JdGordon | that bit is fine... it looks like it barfs on the jtag_device line |
| 05:08:53 | kkurbjun | what does openocd say? |
| 05:09:02 | kkurbjun | is it complaining about the idcode or anything like that? |
| 05:09:17 | kkurbjun | from the documentation that should be correct |
| 05:09:22 | kkurbjun | jtag_device 4 0x1 0xf 0xe |
| 05:09:33 | kkurbjun | you might need to add an id code in at the end |
| 05:09:49 | kkurbjun | oh, nevermind, it has the idcode instruction in it |
| 05:10:01 | JdGordon | that might be ok actually... the target line is definalty changed though |
| 05:11:09 | kkurbjun | looks like you need to remove reset_halt |
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| 05:11:35 | kkurbjun | (I'm using "info openocd") |
| 05:11:42 | kkurbjun | the man page did't have much |
| 05:11:59 | JdGordon | im going from http://openocd.berlios.de/doc/html/Interface-_002d-Dongle-Configuration.html#Interface-_002d-Dongle-Configuration |
| 05:13:03 | kkurbjun | I think that is for the latest code that uses tcl to configure everything |
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| 05:15:25 | JdGordon | http://openocd.berlios.de/doc/html/index.html#Top says its for 0.2.0-in-development... |
| 05:15:29 | JdGordon | thats what im runnig... |
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| 05:16:42 | kkurbjun | oh gotcha |
| 05:17:03 | kkurbjun | yeah, the configuration is completely different than the cfg file that cat made |
| 05:17:37 | kkurbjun | I've havn't used a recent checkout with that configuration setup so I don't know how much use I'll be |
| 05:18:20 | kkurbjun | If you can go back to the older release in ubuntu it would probably be easier, but if you want to learn all about openocd it would probably be worth learning their new setup |
| 05:21:43 | JdGordon | i can only find the source pacakge |
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| 05:27:48 | kkurbjun | hmm, looks like I got my package from universe |
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| 05:32:25 | kkurbjun | JdGordon: are you 64 or 32 bit? |
| 05:32:34 | JdGordon | 64 |
| 05:33:31 | kkurbjun | http://ubuntu-mirror.cs.colorado.edu/ubuntu/pool/universe/o/openocd/openocd_0.0%2br1147-1_amd64.deb |
| 05:33:39 | kkurbjun | that's the version that I'm using |
| 05:35:06 | JdGordon | you sure? |
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| 05:35:18 | kkurbjun | that's what synaptic is telling me |
| 05:35:19 | JdGordon | removed and installed that one and its still 0.2.0-in-dev |
| 05:36:21 | kkurbjun | yeah, it matches my version string too |
| 05:36:35 | kkurbjun | run which openocd |
| 05:36:42 | kkurbjun | where is it pointing to? |
| 05:36:49 | JdGordon | /usr/local/bin/openocd |
| 05:37:05 | kkurbjun | ok, openocd should be in /usr/bin/openocd |
| 05:37:07 | Ctcp | Version from Rick!i=rick@unaffiliated/rick |
| 05:37:24 | kkurbjun | if you change you path to grab from /usr/bin first it should work |
| 05:38:14 | JdGordon | ah yes |
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| 05:39:24 | JdGordon | crap... battery is flat again |
| 05:39:26 | JdGordon | grr |
| 05:40:05 | JdGordon | Error: JTAG communication failure, check connection, JTAG interface, target pow |
| 05:40:30 | kkurbjun | is that powered? |
| 05:41:56 | JdGordon | yep |
| 05:41:58 | JdGordon | blue light is on |
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| 05:43:28 | kkurbjun | are you running as sudo? |
| 05:43:57 | JdGordon | it usually helps if the right cable is connected :p |
| 05:44:00 | JdGordon | ok, we are going |
| 05:44:07 | JdGordon | Info: JTAG device found: 0x0792602f (Manufacturer: 0x017, Part: 0x7926, Version: 0x0) |
| 05:44:11 | kkurbjun | awesome |
| 05:44:57 | kkurbjun | now run telnet localhost 4444 |
| 05:45:07 | kkurbjun | in a new teminal |
| 05:45:12 | JdGordon | we are ine |
| 05:45:29 | kkurbjun | :-D |
| 05:45:49 | kkurbjun | so now you can perform all the flash operations, set hardware breakpoints, etc |
| 05:46:07 | kkurbjun | flashing can take a long time throughthe cable |
| 05:46:27 | JdGordon | where is the docs for the commands? |
| 05:46:35 | JdGordon | how can i read the flash? |
| 05:46:41 | JdGordon | i guess thats a good start :p |
| 05:46:58 | kkurbjun | use "info openocd" in a terminal.. try flash info first |
| 05:47:06 | kkurbjun | you might have to halt the target |
| 05:47:15 | kkurbjun | or probe |
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| 05:48:25 | kkurbjun | you can type help in the telnet window too and it displays all the commands with a brief description |
| 05:48:50 | kkurbjun | and you can do help flash probe for example for more detailed info |
| 05:49:15 | JdGordon | flash info shows plenty of stuff :) |
| 05:50:20 | kkurbjun | so I think flash info gives you a breakdown of the sectors |
| 05:50:35 | kkurbjun | and tells what their status bits are like whetehr they are protected and the like |
| 05:51:37 | kkurbjun | what I did with the gigabeat was find a section of flash that I could erase and re-write without killing the of |
| 05:51:55 | kkurbjun | using sections that contain images are usually a somewhat safe bet |
| 05:52:16 | JdGordon | 8MB of flash? |
| 05:52:17 | kkurbjun | or if you can find a sector that is unused it would be better |
| 05:52:22 | kkurbjun | yeah, it's huge |
| 05:52:35 | JdGordon | im dumping the whole lot... should i stop it? |
| 05:53:13 | kkurbjun | stopping commands in openocd from what I reemmber was troublesome, I think occasionally I had to reset the target and restart openocd when I did that |
| 05:53:18 | JdGordon | i have no idea where to though :p |
| 05:53:26 | kkurbjun | the cable is pretty slow so I would guess it might take a few hours to dump it |
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| 05:53:57 | JdGordon | its done 840KB so yea prtty slow |
| 05:54:08 | JdGordon | 4K/s or so |
| 05:54:17 | kkurbjun | that's not too bad, faster than I expected |
| 05:54:40 | JdGordon | all the flash blocks(?) are "protection state unknown" |
| 05:54:42 | kkurbjun | writing is definately slow because of the amount of commands you ave to issue when talking to a cfi flash |
| 05:54:52 | kkurbjun | they are probably unprotected |
| 05:54:58 | kkurbjun | the gigabeat didn't have any protected |
| 05:55:11 | kkurbjun | I would stay away from those flags becuase some are one time sets |
| 05:55:57 | JdGordon | so how do i find a safe block to play with? |
| 05:56:07 | Blob | i just thought I should let you guys know the usb support in the latest SVN is very unstable for me on the ipod mini 1g device, along with the ipod 4g grayscale device |
| 05:56:46 | * | JdGordon wishses he actually knew what he was doing here :p |
| 05:56:52 | kkurbjun | jdgordon, I have some disassembly of the of from cat that I've gone through which might give some pointers |
| 05:57:45 | kkurbjun | so the general idea is that you change the reset vector at 0x0 to jump to your code instead of in the OF. it would just be a branch instruction - then you place your code at that address |
| 05:58:05 | kkurbjun | you will want to have something in CRT0.s that tells it whether you want to boot the OF or rockbox |
| 05:58:27 | kkurbjun | if you want the OF you just branch back to the OF location that the reset vector originally pointed to |
| 05:58:50 | kkurbjun | and if you want to run rockbox you keep going through crt0.s |
| 05:59:19 | JdGordon | you're expecting 0x0 to just have a pointer? or a jump instrcution also? |
| 05:59:28 | kkurbjun | I am guessing there's alot fo stuff that we don't have yet in terms of initialization like the memory, the external interfaces, gpios, LCD, etc |
| 05:59:47 | JdGordon | so i'm going to be learning arm asm :) |
| 05:59:53 | kkurbjun | 0x0 always has an instruction, sometimes it's a ld sometimes it's a branch |
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| 06:00:14 | Blob | and sometimes it's a nop for interupts with a jmp |
| 06:00:15 | kkurbjun | the ld would be if you want to set an absolute jump rather than a relative location |
| 06:00:46 | kkurbjun | :), yeah, you will definately be learning arm asm - it's not too bad actually, you can get most stuff with just a quick reference sheet |
| 06:01:17 | Blob | I've used 8051, x86, pic 16f, 18f |
| 06:01:38 | kkurbjun | blob the vector table always has a branch or load instruction first - the fiq is the only one that could differ from that since it's at the end of the vector table |
| 06:01:51 | kkurbjun | (at least with arm) |
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| 06:03:34 | JdGordon | is this flash dump going to be useful? or not for a while yet? |
| 06:03:52 | Blob | all gumps help |
| 06:05:00 | kkurbjun | JdGordon: it would be useful to make sure that the image that openocd makes matches the descrambled firmware image from the updater |
| 06:05:14 | kkurbjun | that way if something goes wrong you have something to go back to also |
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| 06:12:44 | kkurbjun | so looking at the OF disassembly it does a ldr PC, =0x30, so it is doing an absolute set |
| 06:13:05 | kkurbjun | so you can either change the address at 0x30 or you can change the initial instruction to a branch |
| 06:14:14 | JdGordon | dumped 8388608 byte in 1194.320068s so not too slow |
| 06:14:38 | JdGordon | ok easy, so we just need to change that and get some code writen to handle it all :p |
| 06:15:11 | kkurbjun | :-D |
| 06:15:34 | kkurbjun | the gigabeat crt0.s would be a good place to see what generally needs to be done |
| 06:15:54 | JdGordon | f or s? |
| 06:16:01 | JdGordon | f? |
| 06:16:04 | kkurbjun | also, the linux kernel has a bunch of the low-level initialization for the dm320 too |
| 06:16:07 | kkurbjun | F |
| 06:20:47 | kkurbjun | JdGordon: here is the neros linux stuff I was thinking of: http://svn.neurosaudio.com/filedetails.php?repname=neuros-bsp&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fbootloader%2Fboard%2Fdm320%2Fplatform.S&rev=391&sc=1 |
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| 06:23:08 | kkurbjun | I guess it's not too bad, but we need to make sure that the registers are setup the way that the OF does and then hopefully things like the LCD don't need additional initialization |
| 06:23:33 | kkurbjun | I've been looking at the OF though and I have not seen anything yet that indicates there is much more to the LCD |
| 06:24:00 | kkurbjun | that was one of the bigger problems with the F, and that was already mostly figured out by someone else |
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| 06:24:12 | JdGordon | ok |
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| 06:24:55 | kkurbjun | I think the check you might want ot do in the bootloader for now might be if the charger is inserted or not to decide whether to boot rockbox or the OF |
| 06:26:06 | kkurbjun | once we have a real, working bootloader then we could make it more sophisticated and check for the touchscren being held, or even the remote depending on how far into the boot process you want to go before checking it |
| 06:27:07 | JdGordon | yeah, one thing at a time though... lets get code runiing from the flash first? |
| 06:27:15 | kkurbjun | :), sounds good |
| 06:27:27 | JdGordon | you coming to DCW? |
| 06:27:45 | kkurbjun | if you want you could just not even bother with the of for now and jsut work withthe bootloader right at the begining of the flash |
| 06:28:07 | kkurbjun | I have not decided yet, it won't work out to fit around the same time my sister was coming out |
| 06:28:18 | kkurbjun | unfortunately |
| 06:28:32 | JdGordon | oh well... come anyway :p |
| 06:28:39 | kkurbjun | :) |
| 06:29:01 | JdGordon | with jtag going, it should be impossible for me to get it into a bricked state rught? |
| 06:29:15 | kkurbjun | yeah, you should always be able to recover |
| 06:29:46 | kkurbjun | before you start flashing, I would look at the disassembly and the dump you have with a hex editor to make sure that they look the same |
| 06:30:24 | kkurbjun | if it matches up for the most part then you have a good dump and the jtag chain is working reliably |
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| 06:31:13 | kkurbjun | I was always able ot recover the gigabeat and it didn't even have a supported flash type - it was /almost/ cfi compliant. |
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| 06:32:03 | kkurbjun | and cat's recovered from a bad flash with the jtag setup |
| 06:32:27 | JdGordon | cool |
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| 07:18:22 | CIA-69 | New commit by jdgordon (r21978): rework cuesheet support: ... |
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| 07:28:36 | ucchan | There are a lot of patches that I made. (see http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/YoshihisaUchida) |
| 07:28:39 | CIA-69 | New commit by jdgordon (r21979): woops, remove that sim code which I forgot to remove from the older versions of the patch... ordinarily I would have just said fix red, but that would ... |
| 07:28:55 | ucchan | These management is serious, and I want to ask for some committing. |
| 07:29:06 | ucchan | First of all, could you examine committing about the patch of the text viewer plugin (FS #9853, FS #9855, FS #9892, FS #9893, FS #9898, FS #9902, FS #9990) ? |
| 07:29:17 | ucchan | Whom should I ask though do not exist the mentainer of this plugin ? |
| 07:30:19 | JdGordon | you've come at a bad time.. most devs are asleep right now... |
| 07:30:24 | JdGordon | (and im about to goto bed..) |
| 07:30:37 | JdGordon | you should email the dev mailing list and try to get someone to commit them... |
| 07:30:58 | JdGordon | is there any order those need to be commited in? |
| 07:31:23 | ucchan | sorry... |
| 07:33:56 | JdGordon | for your codecs patches you probably want to try getting saratoga or linuxstb's attention |
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| 07:39:57 | pixelma | kkurbjun: you made the new Rockbox logos from the svg, right? Just saying that those don't have the structure in the "box" part, so they are different from the smaller colour ones |
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| 07:43:23 | iwonder | anyone know of a program that finds files that are in one folder (or sub-folder) but not in the other, regardless of the file & folder name given? |
| 07:44:31 | scorche | iwonder: erm...how does this relate to rockbox? |
| 07:45:00 | iwonder | compare advance has it, but alas, it doesn't seem to work reliably |
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| 08:50:17 | Rand_Althor | Why does my e200R take longer to boot than my c200? |
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| 09:08:35 | Rand_Althor | Another question: Is it bad for yor DAP to copy new Rockbox builds to it constantly? I'm asking because I heard that every every time a file is written to a FAT partition, the _entire_ FAT (file allocation table) get's rewritten, and the current build for my DAP has 256 files in it. |
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| 10:04:27 | linuxstb | Rand_Althor: No, that isn't a problem. |
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| 10:10:15 | njr | Hi... any suggestion about an MP3 player(That runs rockbox) for around $100, 8Gb memory, good sound quality with or with video playbakc |
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| 10:12:58 | Mikachu | "or"? |
| 10:13:36 | linuxstb | njr: Do you want something that Rockbox runs well on (which means devices you can only buy used), or something that Rockbox is still in development for (which means possibly serioud bugs and unimplemented features, but which are easier to buy) ? |
| 10:13:54 | Mikachu | if you can find an 8GB 1gen ipod nano it would fit your description |
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| 10:16:18 | GodEater | did the 1st gen nano come in 8GB? I thought it only went up to 4 ? |
| 10:16:36 | linuxstb | Mikachu didn't claim they existed! |
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| 10:17:08 | scorche | GodEater: it did... |
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| 10:18:08 | webguest15 | Hello. |
| 10:18:34 | linuxstb | scorche: Are you sure? Wikipedia claims otherwise. |
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| 10:18:44 | njr | Hmm, linuxstb I would prefer something new... but I would defnitly want audio playback playlists and good sound quatlity upto scratch |
| 10:18:50 | njr | don't care about video |
| 10:18:55 | webguest15 | So... I have an iPod 1g. |
| 10:19:13 | linuxstb | webguest15: You mean the original 1st generation ipod? |
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| 10:19:19 | njr | I don't think the new ipods can have their firmware changed |
| 10:19:25 | scorche | linuxguy3: then wikipedia is wrong...though i dont see them claiming it went up to 8GB |
| 10:19:26 | WS|Thermal | Linuxstb: Yes, I mean the original 1st generation iPod. |
| 10:19:28 | scorche | errr |
| 10:19:31 | scorche | linuxstb: ^^ |
| 10:19:45 | WS|Thermal | Its old and clunky and bricky but I'd like to run Rockbox on it. |
| 10:19:58 | njr | oh sorry I didn't read the 1st gen bit |
| 10:20:11 | WS|Thermal | unfortunately apparently its hardware identifier is 0xFFFFFFFF which means that it thinks its a 2G or something. |
| 10:20:14 | GodEater | scorche: that's right. they *don't* claim it went up to 8GB. which is what we're saying. |
| 10:20:36 | WS|Thermal | And my wheel doesn't work which makes it useless. |
| 10:20:40 | Mikachu | i was pretty sure they existed |
| 10:20:45 | Mikachu | but mine is 2gb |
| 10:20:59 | WS|Thermal | I was wondering if there are still any custom 1st-gen builds around, seeing as there's a patch to get it working. |
| 10:21:13 | WS|Thermal | Or if I simply have to grab it via SVN and compile it with Cygwin. |
| 10:21:22 | WS|Thermal | Just wanted to check if there were builds floating around before I did that. |
| 10:22:00 | GodEater | WS|Thermal: is there something wrong with the builds at http://build.rockbox.org/ ? |
| 10:22:06 | linuxstb | WS|Thermal: Your best choice is to compile yourself from svn - then you always have the most recent. |
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| 10:22:46 | WS|Thermal | Linuxstb: Is the process for applying a diff patch *then* compiling simple on Windows or should I boot up a Ubuntu LiveCD or something similar? |
| 10:23:07 | linuxstb | WS|Thermal: It's identical in cygwin or Ubuntu. |
| 10:23:08 | WS|Thermal | GodEater: Installed Rockbox 1G/2G and my scrollwheel doesn't work, apparently due to http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8778 |
| 10:23:30 | WS|Thermal | Linuxstb: Alright, cool. I'm more comfortable with Ubuntu though, I might just end up using that. xD |
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| 10:23:47 | WS|Thermal | So it'd be a case of grabbing it from SVN, using the diff utils to apply the patch, compiling |
| 10:24:00 | WS|Thermal | then copying the binaries to the iPod (if the loader is already setup)? |
| 10:24:22 | linuxstb | WS|Thermal: There are instructions in the wiki for compiling Rockbox - see the "For developers" section in the index. |
| 10:24:37 | WS|Thermal | Alright, thanks so much for the help. |
| 10:24:51 | WS|Thermal | Have a nice night or day, depending on your time zone. =) |
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| 10:39:32 | linuxstb | njr: I couldn't really recommend any of the newer devices yet. Assuming you want a flash-based device, the "version 1" Sansa E200 is popular. |
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| 10:56:39 | PaulJam | hmm, did anyone notice some wps corruption with the current build? |
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| 11:04:09 | linuxstb | PaulJam: What kind of corruption? |
| 11:05:36 | PaulJam | the backdrop has some lines of random coloured pixels in it. looks like sonething is writing to the wps buffer. |
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| 11:08:42 | linuxstb | I've just tried a sim, and that works fine. I can't test on target at the moment... |
| 11:09:28 | PaulJam | linuxstb: http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6153/dump090720110639.png this is a screendump from the target (H300) the uisim looks fine here too. |
| 11:10:11 | linuxstb | It would be useful to try some older daily builds and see if you can find when it started. |
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| 11:12:00 | PaulJam | yes, ill try going back. i think it must have been a recent change. last build i used before updating was r21964 i think. |
| 11:12:51 | linuxstb | Maybe last night's cuesheet changes - they seem the only buffering/wps-related changes recently... |
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| 11:17:55 | PaulJam | yes, daily build r21977 looks fine. |
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| 11:21:03 | linuxstb | PaulJam: Do you have cuesheet support enabled? |
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| 11:21:38 | PaulJam | i did reset setting at boot, so no. |
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| 11:45:45 | PaulJam | JdGordon (if you read the logs): Please have a look at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10453 . |
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| 13:39:17 | paulk | Hello ! |
| 13:39:35 | AfterDeath | Hi ! |
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| 13:41:31 | paulk | I've just modified the http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LibGphoto2Bug page, adding the informations for fedora users ! |
| 13:44:28 | paulk | well, good bye ! |
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| 13:54:11 | robin0800 | All commits since 3.0, last 12 months, last four weeks.... this from the home page, might be better if it says 3.3 not 3.0 |
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| 15:11:21 | Lear | Hm, I suspect something bad with r21978. I get screen corruption on entering the WPS with r21979, but not with r21977. |
| 15:11:37 | Lear | Cuesheets aren't enabled, btw. |
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| 15:13:06 | linuxstb | Lear: Yes, there's already a FS task about it... |
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| 15:18:41 | Lear | A bit surprised it's only some screen corruption (that I've seen so far at least). Putting struct cuesheet on the stack can't be good. :) |
| 15:23:33 | CIA-69 | New commit by gevaerts (r21980): take first_drive into account when handling hotswap. This is not important as long as this is the only driver in use, but it avoids bugs as soon as ... |
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| 15:27:05 | saratoga | funman: I hooked up my microsd card and e200v2 to a scope, and the only clock singal I see is at 90MHz |
| 15:27:19 | saratoga | however, with the probe attached, rockbox cannot seem to read the card, and sometimes panics |
| 15:27:29 | saratoga | so I'm not 100% certain that its actually giving the clock |
| 15:27:42 | saratoga | the 90MHz signal I see is fairly weak |
| 15:29:12 | saratoga | how hard would it be to make a build that has the SD clock always on even if theres no card? |
| 15:29:26 | linuxstb | Lear: Where is struct cuesheet on the stack? I only noticed pointers to cuesheets. |
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| 15:31:23 | Lear | I mentioned it on FS task, but check audio_finish_load_track in playback.c. |
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| 15:31:41 | Lear | Gonna do a quick test without it. |
| 15:31:45 | linuxstb | The patch was a FS task? |
| 15:32:18 | Lear | No, the one about the bug. The one you referred to... |
| 15:33:59 | linuxstb | Bah, declarations mixed with code... |
| 15:34:17 | Lear | Where? |
| 15:34:48 | Lear | Ah, see it now. |
| 15:35:04 | linuxstb | That's why I missed it... |
| 15:36:30 | linuxstb | But doesn't the location of the definition mean that space will only be reserved on the stack for it if that block of code is run? |
| 15:37:19 | Lear | You're not the first one to believe that... Stack space for all autos is reserved on function entry. |
| 15:37:45 | Lear | Wouldn't help those with cuesheets anyway. |
| 15:39:56 | Lear | Anyway, I removed the if statement containing that struct, and that fixed the problem for me. |
| 15:43:45 | linuxstb | bufalloc seems an oddly named function - it allocates a buffer _and_ copies data into it... |
| 15:45:10 | Lear | Another "bad" thing: there's also buffer_alloc, which deals with another buffer... :) |
| 15:47:24 | CIA-69 | New commit by gevaerts (r21981): Make sd_present() and mmc_present() look only at the actual presence of a card, not at initialisation state |
| 15:47:38 | * | gevaerts forgot to mention the bug number :( |
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| 15:49:48 | roolku | zagor/bagder: there seems to be a hickup with the build system: the summary is missing: http://build.rockbox.org/data/21980-clients.html |
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| 15:50:07 | gevaerts | pixelma: could you test if the ondio mmc card is properly recognised on boot sometime? |
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| 15:55:37 | linuxstb | Does anyone else miss the date/time of the commit from the build table? |
| 15:56:09 | gevaerts | yes |
| 15:56:35 | soap | How rude would it be to put the buildclient in a while loop? |
| 15:56:45 | gevaerts | is it still needed? |
| 15:57:00 | linuxstb | Also, is the name at the top of the screen being a link to the zip (where available) a new feature? |
| 15:57:23 | soap | gevaerts, was that directed at me or linuxstb? |
| 15:57:25 | gevaerts | soap: I think that if you put a sleep 60 or so in it as well, there should be no issue |
| 15:57:33 | gevaerts | soap: at you |
| 15:57:35 | linuxstb | soap: My message was directed to anyone... |
| 15:57:45 | linuxstb | soap: But yours wasn't... |
| 15:57:47 | * | linuxstb gets his coat |
| 15:58:26 | soap | Is it still needed? That I don't know. I haven't awaken to find it stopped for a few days, but I'm about to leave town and be w/o even ssh access for weeks. |
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| 16:03:31 | linuxstb | Lear: Hmm, and (unless grep is failing me), that if() statement is the only code that's using bufalloc()... |
| 16:04:26 | linuxstb | (and nothing was using it before that commit) |
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| 16:10:27 | Lear | linuxstb: Seems like it, yes. |
| 16:14:17 | gevaerts | soap: I'd say put it in a loop, with a sleep to avoid overloading things. We (at least Zagor and Bagder) can ban clients now... |
| 16:15:14 | soap | gevaerts, put it in with a 60 second sleep like you suggested. Maybe I'll go 300 or so to be nicer. |
| 16:15:40 | soap | I don't want to be banned! |
| 16:15:44 | Torne | gevaerts: i'm pretty sure I've fixed the PP5020 ATA DMA patch, I'm wondering how much more testing it would need :) |
| 16:16:39 | soap | with or without alignment? |
| 16:16:58 | Torne | i've just changed it to only DMA for things which happen to be cacheline aligned |
| 16:17:54 | Torne | I don't think we can actually correct for the misalignment in a way which doesn't suck |
| 16:18:24 | Torne | if the address to copy the first sector to is not aligned then nor will any of the other sectors be, so you can't just do either end with PIO and use DMA for th emiddle, the request has to be for whole sectors |
| 16:19:00 | Torne | USB seems to get a perforance improvement with this, at least; the usb buffers are already aligned |
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| 16:19:28 | Torne | and there's probably some *fairly* easy tweaking to buffering.c to make the majority of audio buffering requests aligned as well |
| 16:20:03 | Torne | but exactly what the nicest way to do that is i'm not sure, and it's kinda orthogonal to getting DMA to work on pp5020 |
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| 16:20:53 | gevaerts | So what's next? A set of test builds for all PP ATA targets? |
| 16:21:09 | Torne | it's only pp5020 |
| 16:21:17 | Torne | well, 502x |
| 16:21:27 | Torne | but yes, that would seem like a good idea |
| 16:21:46 | * | gevaerts tends to forget about those three ipods :) |
| 16:21:47 | Torne | i've tested it on my player as much as i can, with just the ata patch + alignment fix (i.e. no buffering changes) |
| 16:22:01 | Torne | the stats patch show sit does DMA for about 10% of requests |
| 16:22:12 | Torne | i.e. most things are not in fact sufficiently aligned, but some are by fluke |
| 16:22:34 | linuxstb | How big is the cacheline? |
| 16:22:39 | Torne | 16 bytes, i believe |
| 16:22:48 | Torne | it's what the stuff on daniel.haxx.se says |
| 16:23:00 | Torne | and making 16 byte alignment required makes all my problems go away |
| 16:24:02 | gevaerts | Torne: you're running with UDMA1? |
| 16:24:11 | Torne | er, yes |
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| 16:24:16 | Torne | whatever the v0.7 patch you posted does |
| 16:24:24 | Torne | i have no changes to the dma code other than my one liner for alignment |
| 16:24:43 | Torne | yeah, udma1, says the ipod |
| 16:25:12 | gevaerts | ok. UDMA4 is a lot faster again, but I'm not sure how safe it is |
| 16:25:21 | gevaerts | at least according to http://horscht.googlepages.com/rockboxbench |
| 16:25:34 | Torne | well again that's somethhing we can look at later, i think |
| 16:25:48 | Torne | dreamlayers seemed pretty sure that modes higher than 1 were not ok at unboosted cpu speed |
| 16:26:11 | gevaerts | indeed. Let's leave higher levels for later... |
| 16:26:24 | Torne | imx31 gets to use scatter/gather to work around this |
| 16:26:29 | Torne | which is Not Fair :) |
| 16:26:57 | Torne | Hm, actually i do notice one thing looking in th eimx31 version, though, which is that cacheline interference should only happen on reads, and writes should only need to be 4-byte aligned. |
| 16:27:17 | linuxstb | gevaerts: Do you know what device those benchmarks are done on? |
| 16:27:20 | Torne | my patch requires it for both, which isn't strictly necessary |
| 16:27:29 | gevaerts | linuxstb: Horscht's ipod video 80GB |
| 16:27:45 | Torne | i gave horsct a link to my patch yesterday and he said he'd have a go but not heard back from him yet |
| 16:28:23 | gevaerts | Torne: well, there won't be many unaligned writes anyway... |
| 16:28:30 | Torne | true, perhaps none |
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| 16:28:42 | Torne | but as it should be safe, it might be nicer to allow it |
| 16:28:45 | * | gevaerts doesn't see many real usecases for non-USB writes |
| 16:28:49 | Torne | you still need 4-byte alignment to use DMA at all, though |
| 16:30:18 | Torne | so i guess a test build would be a good plan probably |
| 16:30:48 | Torne | then if htat's ok we can probably commit this? it won't be as big a performance improvement as it *could* be but it shouldn't make anything *slower*, and it should help for usb |
| 16:31:20 | Torne | then i guess we need a sensible way of getting buffering.c to put audio at nice alignments :) |
| 16:33:56 | BryanJacobs | Torne: not too hard to do |
| 16:34:03 | Torne | BryanJacobs: yah, we discussed it before |
| 16:34:27 | BryanJacobs | I think the conclusion we came to was to make add_handle (+ shrink_handle) place things at the right alignments? |
| 16:34:32 | Torne | a nice way would probably do it only for targets that wanted it to, though |
| 16:34:42 | Torne | yes, but that's not sufficient |
| 16:34:52 | Torne | you need the handle struct to end at an aligned place |
| 16:34:57 | Torne | but you also need to tweak the file offset |
| 16:35:11 | Torne | because if the file's offset is, say, 37, then the disk reads will never be aligned :) |
| 16:35:16 | BryanJacobs | well, or you can just set h->data to be a little after the end of the handle struct |
| 16:35:26 | BryanJacobs | oh, it has to be aligned at the SOURCE too? |
| 16:35:30 | Torne | Nono |
| 16:35:38 | Torne | but it transfers whole sectors |
| 16:35:42 | BryanJacobs | oh. |
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| 16:35:55 | Torne | so the alignment of where the sector has to go needs to be 16. |
| 16:35:56 | BryanJacobs | then just do h->len += foo; h->offset -= foo |
| 16:36:09 | BryanJacobs | and increment the ridx a bit after the first read |
| 16:36:11 | Torne | yes, there's already a patch that does that on the FS# for this |
| 16:36:18 | FlynDice | saratoga: RE 90MHz SD signal: Was it right at 90 or down around 82 by any chance. CLK_IDE is set at 90MHz but actually runs at 82.4. |
| 16:36:19 | Torne | just it does it for 4-byte alignment |
| 16:36:28 | BryanJacobs | ok then you're all set |
| 16:36:31 | Torne | it just needs changing ot 16, and for h->data to be 16-byte aligned. |
| 16:36:45 | Torne | but still it should probably only be doing this for targets wher eit's needed |
| 16:36:59 | Torne | and should maybe be able to deal with more than one alignment :) |
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| 16:37:33 | Torne | BryanJacobs: also I looked at your diagram |
| 16:37:37 | BryanJacobs | if you use a #define for the alignment level that should work |
| 16:37:38 | Torne | and it's very helpful :) |
| 16:37:44 | BryanJacobs | thanks :-) |
| 16:37:51 | Torne | i agree that your strategy seems reasonable |
| 16:37:55 | BryanJacobs | I've been thinking about making a call flowchart |
| 16:37:57 | Torne | i had previously misunderstood what you meant slightly |
| 16:38:05 | Torne | you are in fact talking about what i was thinking of :) |
| 16:38:21 | Torne | (but it's not like it's up to me, so hey) |
| 16:38:32 | BryanJacobs | well, it's certainly not up to me either |
| 16:38:52 | BryanJacobs | I think I'm going to implement the "conservative" strategy first - not allowing things to be placed anywhere but at widx |
| 16:39:23 | BryanJacobs | oh, anyway, if you have a #define ALIGN_BYTES, setting it to 1 will be OK for targets that don't require alignment |
| 16:39:30 | BryanJacobs | it won't do any harm there |
| 16:39:38 | BryanJacobs | and the compiler should optimize it out |
| 16:40:02 | Torne | something like that, yes |
| 16:44:38 | saratoga | funman: I did better measurements on the SD card during a file transfer |
| 16:44:42 | saratoga | its 62.4MHz |
| 16:44:46 | saratoga | in rockbox |
| 16:44:56 | saratoga | i suppose I could try the OF |
| 16:48:55 | Torne | gevaerts: ok, i posted a tidier patch that just does it for reads, and also removes the TODO comment about handling cacheline interference :) |
| 16:50:58 | * | gevaerts makes some builds |
| 16:51:15 | * | Torne also updates his own build to current svn |
| 16:51:34 | saratoga | FlynDice: sorry my previous number was a bit off, i have to actually do an SD transfer to get the clock high |
| 16:52:01 | saratoga | the 90MHz signal I saw was just noise in the background, its always there but but 100x weaker then the 62.4MHz signal during a transfer |
| 16:52:45 | saratoga | the OF looks stranger, I had to do the measurement with the USB cable plugged in, so its not exactly the same as rockbox's test, but I see a lot of different clocks on the line |
| 16:53:25 | saratoga | 62.4MHz was not one of them |
| 16:55:33 | saratoga | 16.35MHz seems the most common peak in the OF's clock, but it also sometimes does 2 and (about) 3x as much |
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| 17:00:33 | saratoga | 48Mhz also seems common in the OF |
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| 17:00:47 | FlynDice | saratoga: Seems to point to MCLK = PCLK and not the MCLK = CLK_IDE we were speculating about... |
| 17:02:51 | Torne | gevaerts: Hm, actually there is one other issue: FS #9721 |
| 17:04:20 | gevaerts | Torne: maybe I should just add that to the test builds? |
| 17:04:24 | Torne | Probably |
| 17:04:35 | Torne | But for actual commit that's not ideal |
| 17:04:39 | Torne | because it panics on write errors :) |
| 17:04:46 | Torne | shake player -> panic is not ver ynice |
| 17:04:54 | Torne | for the test build that should be fine though |
| 17:05:04 | Torne | we want to know if write errors are showing up :) |
| 17:05:11 | Torne | eek, i'm being forcibly rebooted |
| 17:05:13 | Torne | brb :) |
| 17:05:35 | gevaerts | Torne: still better than silently failing |
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| 17:12:13 | saratoga | FlynDice: I'll leave it setup on the analyzer if you want more measurements |
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| 17:13:46 | saratoga | FlynDice: looking online, 62 MHz seems too fast for SD |
| 17:13:50 | saratoga | perhaps this is the problem? |
| 17:13:51 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Seen http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10453 ? |
| 17:14:03 | funman | saratoga: where do you see 62MHz is too fast? |
| 17:14:17 | saratoga | funamn: wikipedia says 50MHz for SD |
| 17:14:21 | JdGordon | yes, working on a quick fix now... only have about 15min before i have to go though |
| 17:14:42 | JdGordon | serves me right for testing on hwcodec insetad of my usual swcodec targets :p |
| 17:16:01 | saratoga | if we're running cards a little too fast for spec, that might explain why some devices have glitches and some do not |
| 17:16:52 | linuxstb | JdGordon: It didn't even compile on swcodec! ;) |
| 17:17:10 | JdGordon | ? it compiled fine? |
| 17:17:27 | funman | the OF mentions a desired clock frequency of 20MHz for µSD and 65MHz for internal storage |
| 17:17:35 | linuxstb | JdGordon: I meant hwcodec... And it was the sims... So just ignore me... |
| 17:17:46 | JdGordon | I'll do my best :D |
| 17:17:58 | funman | the pl180 doc mentions 20MHz maximum for MMC and 25MHz maximum for SD |
| 17:18:54 | saratoga | funman: most of the energy on the clock for the OF was at 16MHz |
| 17:19:14 | funman | saratoga: we should work on a build with lower clock frequencies, so you can verify if the measured CLK line is lowered accordingly (and confirm that mclk == pclk) |
| 17:19:35 | saratoga | ok i'll leave the instrument hooked up, just give me a patch and I will tell you the clock |
| 17:19:48 | saratoga | also if you could leave the clock energized all the time in the patch it would make testing much easier |
| 17:19:50 | funman | the requirement is "pclk >= 3/8 mclk", and "pclk >= 3/8 pclk" is valid |
| 17:20:28 | saratoga | the probe tends to cause panics if i use it will transfering so measuring the exact frequency is hard if the bus switches off during an error |
| 17:21:57 | saratoga | bah ucchan logged in last night while no one was around |
| 17:23:02 | JdGordon | linuxstb: fix is up... i have to get to work now, so if oyuw aant to test it commit if it works |
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| 17:24:24 | funman | the 25 or 50MHz is given by TRAN_SPEED in the csd (we want to check linux code for pl180) |
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| 17:26:05 | funman | saratoga: for keeping clock always on, making sd_enable() return immediately (no effect) should be enough |
| 17:26:15 | Torne | gevaerts: yes, but retrying a couple of times at least would be nice :) |
| 17:26:28 | Torne | gevaerts: and/or switching to read only mode |
| 17:26:40 | saratoga | funman: so any idea why we use such a fast clock for SD? |
| 17:26:55 | gevaerts | Torne: maybe whenever we get a read or write error, we can shuffle the playlist? :) |
| 17:26:56 | funman | saratoga: faster is better |
| 17:27:03 | JdGordon | we could just about get rid of the cuesheet option if it wasnt for hwcodec : |
| 17:27:09 | Torne | gevaerts: hehe |
| 17:27:30 | funman | I didn't know about the maximal clock rate and the storage appeared to run just fine until recently .. |
| 17:27:35 | JdGordon | i.e always having it enabled and using the audio buffer completly... stupid hwcodec needs the static buffer though... |
| 17:27:44 | saratoga | but you know how to change it? |
| 17:27:54 | funman | saratoga: yes, i'm doing it now |
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| 17:32:33 | PaulJam_ | JdGordon: a quick test of the patch shows no issues (no WPS corruption and no crashes), but i don't use cuesheets, so i have no idea if this (still) works correctly. |
| 17:33:15 | JdGordon | thanks.. it *should* work, but yeah its had no testing... |
| 17:33:22 | JdGordon | literally put together in 5 min |
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| 17:36:12 | Lear | It looks ok, whatever that's worth... Would prefer a strlcpy over strcpy though. :) |
| 17:36:34 | PaulJam_ | meh, i just noticed that "statusbar: on" in a theme file now removes the statusbar. maybe _someone_ should update all the themes on the themes page accordingly... |
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| 17:40:25 | * | JdGordon has no idea why there is the cuesheeet.audio_filename... |
| 17:42:10 | JdGordon | its unused... |
| 17:42:13 | JdGordon | *deleted*! |
| 17:42:23 | JdGordon | fuck, gotta run to work... ill commit this on the way in |
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| 17:43:54 | gevaerts | hm, maybe I'm being stupid here. Making test builds for ATA patches based on a revision with WPS known corruption may not be too smart... |
| 17:44:21 | * | gevaerts will make new builds once FS #10453 is fixed |
| 17:47:19 | JdGordon | its worse than just corruption... its almost certainly an undetected stck overflow |
| 17:48:45 | Torne | gevaerts: ooh crap |
| 17:48:48 | Torne | i hadn't noticed that either |
| 17:48:52 | * | Torne cancels the build he's doing :0 |
| 17:49:47 | funman | saratoga: with a clock of 15.5MHz (62/4), the internal storage can't be initialised |
| 17:49:53 | * | BryanJacobs chuckles |
| 17:50:31 | CIA-69 | New commit by jdgordon (r21982): fix FS #10453 - the cuesheet changes broke playback on swcodec, rework it so it uses the audio buffer instead of a temp buffer from the start (which ... |
| 17:50:49 | JdGordon | now work time |
| 17:50:51 | funman | DATA CRC FAIL |
| 17:51:08 | saratoga | funman: do any delays need to be initialized? |
| 17:51:14 | saratoga | erry adjusted |
| 17:51:45 | funman | not sure, bank selection is near the end of initialization |
| 17:59:11 | funman | gevaerts: the "no partition found. insert USB cable" dialog in main.c/init() should reboot immediately when ROCKBOX_USE_USB isn't defined? |
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| 18:02:34 | funman | saratoga: so it looks like changing SD clocks needs a bit more work |
| 18:02:54 | funman | saratoga: I think you pointed out a very interesting problem |
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| 18:07:06 | muesli | hi |
| 18:07:29 | muesli | PaulJam_ stupid question, when will r21982 be released? ;) |
| 18:08:01 | PaulJam_ | muesli: it should be available on the current builds page. |
| 18:10:38 | muesli | ah, i love you! |
| 18:11:06 | PaulJam_ | i didn't fix it. |
| 18:11:12 | muesli | just modded my h120 to a cf-player and now even old wps work fine :D |
| 18:12:15 | muesli | luv ya anyway and thanks to the unknown fixer :D |
| 18:12:52 | * | JdGordon| glares at muesli |
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| 18:13:39 | muesli | JdGordon *cuddle* |
| 18:14:31 | muesli | btw concerning saving energy for a cf-modded player without hdd: which disk spindown time shall be fine? ->254s ? |
| 18:17:42 | PaulJam_ | if it has an effect on powerconsumption at all on a cf modded player then i would assume the setting should be at the lowest setting. |
| 18:19:41 | muesli | yeah, of course... |
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| 18:20:33 | muesli | same question regarding dircache. i guess disabling since its not neccessary anymore shall save some juice? |
| 18:22:44 | PaulJam_ | i'm not entirely sure, but it could be that some parts of the database are faster with dircache on (if you use that feature). |
| 18:23:52 | muesli | ok...i guess theres not that much change to notice. with an upgraded battery you'll get up to 28h of playback. and since the hdd was replaced it shall be even more |
| 18:26:07 | muesli | ah..anti-skip buffer was cruical to battery life afaik. i guess the smallest value shall do it again? |
| 18:28:00 | BryanJacobs | that one you definitely want to be as small as possible |
| 18:28:32 | BryanJacobs | well, actually depends on how often you skip tracks |
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| 18:29:03 | Lear | Erh, no, it isn't related to that kind of skips... |
| 18:29:08 | amiconn | Unhelpful: I didn't use a special benchmark for mpegplayer idct and yuv blit speed testing. I just played an .mpg and measured total playtime (fps display is too imprecise) |
| 18:29:16 | BryanJacobs | yes it is, because you want the CF to be inactive as much as possible |
| 18:29:37 | BryanJacobs | if you skip forward often you'll spend longer with the CF/HDD active if the antiskip buffer is larger |
| 18:30:07 | Mikachu | how is the anti-skip buffer different from the regular buffer? (i read the manual entry but it didn't help) |
| 18:30:16 | BryanJacobs | the antiskip buffer is decoded PCM |
| 18:30:22 | Mikachu | is it the low water mark? |
| 18:30:23 | BryanJacobs | right? |
| 18:30:31 | BryanJacobs | oh, no, I'm wrong |
| 18:30:32 | funman | amiconn: so you didn't play it realtime? |
| 18:30:43 | Lear | Low water mark for file buffering, not pcm. |
| 18:30:43 | BryanJacobs | the antiskip buffer is the low-water mark, Mikachu is right |
| 18:30:56 | Mikachu | ah |
| 18:30:57 | BryanJacobs | the PCM buffer is independent |
| 18:30:57 | amiconn | No. |
| 18:31:04 | BryanJacobs | speaking of which, what determines the PCM buffer size? |
| 18:31:07 | muesli | BryanJacobs if that vlaue was too small the h320 was skipping while scroling |
| 18:31:41 | * | BryanJacobs goes to look at where the "antiskip buffer size" figures into buffering.c |
| 18:31:59 | PaulJam_ | BryanJacobs: i think it is fixed size (only crossfade infulences its size) |
| 18:32:04 | funman | BryanJacobs: see pcmbuf_get_next_required_pcmbuf_size (depends on crossfading and memory size) |
| 18:32:07 | JdGordon| | for some reason im thinking its not even used? |
| 18:32:18 | Lear | E.g., if the anti-skip buffer is 1 minute, file buffering starts when there is 1 minute worth of data left in the file buffer. |
| 18:32:38 | BryanJacobs | Lear: that would be the low water mark |
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| 18:33:30 | Lear | Yes, but that's what the anti-skip buffer adjusts. |
| 18:33:42 | BryanJacobs | funman: it's not there... |
| 18:34:08 | BryanJacobs | oh, you mean for the PCM buffer size |
| 18:34:09 | BryanJacobs | got it. |
| 18:34:39 | Mikachu | doesn't the pcm buffer just always try to stay full? |
| 18:35:15 | BryanJacobs | define "try"? |
| 18:35:25 | BryanJacobs | the codec gets invoked when there are enough data ready for it |
| 18:35:42 | Mikachu | "it doesn't wait for it to empty to any particular ratio before it starts decoding" |
| 18:35:56 | Mikachu | for various values of "it" ;) |
| 18:36:05 | BryanJacobs | I believe that is correct - there's no cost to starting up the codec to read from memory to memory |
| 18:36:06 | Lear | Yes, the codec thread works whenever it can. If the pcm buffer goes low, the CPU is boosted. |
| 18:36:34 | Mikachu | well, i guess it waits for one decoded block to fit or something |
| 18:37:01 | BryanJacobs | the CPU also gets boosted if buffering falls behind |
| 18:37:41 | JdGordon| | whats the smallest reasonable size the PCM buffer could be? it doesnt really need to be 512K on flash targets |
| 18:38:02 | Mikachu | why is the pcm buffer affected by disk type? don't you mean the file buffer? |
| 18:38:04 | BryanJacobs | it's based on time, not size |
| 18:38:08 | funman | JdGordon|: it is dependant on CPU speed |
| 18:38:13 | JdGordon| | hmm.. although you'd boost more if it was smaller wouldnt you? |
| 18:38:23 | BryanJacobs | only if the codec can't keep up |
| 18:38:39 | BryanJacobs | if the codec unboosted can decode at greater than realtime that won't cause any boosts |
| 18:38:45 | JdGordon| | in that case... i mean how large can we make it so flash targets dont need to boost? |
| 18:38:52 | JdGordon| | seem as reading from disk is fast |
| 18:39:02 | Mikachu | i did at one point change the plugin buffer to 28MB on my nano with no issues (pcm buffer same size, file buffer smaller) |
| 18:39:48 | funman | i think you need to measure variations in decoding latency for all the codecs |
| 18:39:50 | Mikachu | (i am not using that change anymore) |
| 18:40:18 | funman | the pcm buffer needs to be big enough to avoid underruns |
| 18:40:54 | JdGordon| | 20MB PCM, 0MB file buffer should work goodly... |
| 18:41:09 | JdGordon| | 10MB file buffer even |
| 18:42:29 | JdGordon| | maybe not |
| 18:42:40 | funman | what would be the point ? |
| 18:43:04 | JdGordon| | less boosting |
| 18:43:45 | funman | which boosting case would be removed? |
| 18:43:49 | JdGordon| | assuming boosted cpu needs mre power than flash access |
| 18:43:50 | Lear | less frequent boosting only |
| 18:43:56 | PaulJam_ | wouldn't that be worse for the battery since it would stay boosted all the time while it fills those 10 MB PCM buffer? even when the fileformat wouldnÄt require boosting usually? |
| 18:44:23 | JdGordon| | back in 10... |
| 18:44:51 | funman | PaulJam_: the CPU isn't required to be boosted until the PCM buffer fills |
| 18:45:06 | Lear | Still, could be interesting to see if it makes a difference... |
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| 18:46:43 | PaulJam_ | one thing with a large PCM buffer would also be the latency when changing DSP settings. |
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| 18:47:34 | r0b- | is there any way to make mpegplayer play other mpeg types like mpeg4 |
| 18:48:09 | linuxstb | bertrik: Hi. Do you have your Meizu audio hack patch somewhere? I'm curious to try it out... (timers are killing me...) |
| 18:48:10 | bertrik | no, the plugin can't handle mpeg4 |
| 18:48:11 | PaulJam_ | r0b-: there is, but i don't think you'd like it. |
| 18:48:22 | r0b- | writing code? |
| 18:48:26 | PaulJam_ | yes |
| 18:48:32 | linuxstb | Yes, writing an mpeg4player... |
| 18:48:39 | bertrik | linuxstb, I'll try to make a clean patch ... |
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| 18:52:08 | JdGordon| | even if the codec cant decode at realtime, with a large enough PCM buffer you wouldnt have to boost very often (if at all)... |
| 18:52:33 | Mikachu | at some point you have to fill your large buffer |
| 18:52:39 | JdGordon| | you would have to hit the disk more often though, but on flash targets thats not an issue because they are fast.. I dont know if the power tradeoff there makes sense |
| 18:52:47 | JdGordon| | Mikachu: sure, but not boosted |
| 18:53:07 | funman | JdGordon|: codecs do control boosting individually |
| 18:53:47 | Mikachu | the size of the buffer doesn't affect how much you need to boost on average |
| 18:54:37 | dz | Mikachu: except when seeking outside of the buffer, in which case larger is worse |
| 18:54:57 | Mikachu | right |
| 18:55:06 | Mikachu | but it's harder to seek outside the buffer then |
| 18:55:08 | dz | (or skipping tracks, which I do on an all too frequent basis) |
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| 19:07:33 | n00b81 | Anyone here have a 6G willing to do some tests? |
| 19:07:51 | n00b81 | *6G classic. |
| 19:09:22 | LambdaCalculus37 | n00b81: I don't have one to use. What kind of tests? |
| 19:09:34 | * | LambdaCalculus37 should reiterate... |
| 19:09:41 | LambdaCalculus37 | I don't have one with me right now. |
| 19:09:43 | TheSeven | trying if code gets executed, e.g. the tweeter tweets |
| 19:10:59 | bertrik | linuxstb, see http://pastebin.com/m32b93623 |
| 19:11:13 | bertrik | experimental USB stuff is mixed up a bit in it though |
| 19:11:40 | bertrik | wavclip.c is the audio sample, stubs.c contains some stubs to play pcm without pcm.c |
| 19:12:00 | bertrik | and the code to set up pcm is in bootloader/meizu_m3.c |
| 19:13:21 | linuxstb | bertrik: Thanks. |
| 19:14:10 | gevaerts | Can anyone have a look at http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=22270.0 and shout if I'm unclear? |
| 19:15:55 | Torne | gevaerts: seems reasonable, but the lack of a . on "the main result is usb transfers should be faster" seems like you trailed off without saying something else |
| 19:15:59 | Torne | dunno whether you really did or not :) |
| 19:16:30 | gevaerts | Torne: unless you know of other expected results, I'll just add a period :) |
| 19:16:46 | Torne | well, buffering migh tbe a little faster (and thusly use a little less power) |
| 19:16:58 | gevaerts | yes, but is it noticeable? |
| 19:17:00 | Torne | but it's not likely to be a human noticable improvement |
| 19:17:16 | Torne | it might show up on a battery bench. i've not actually tried. |
| 19:17:28 | Torne | as i was considering the degree of improvement uninteresting at thsi stage |
| 19:17:48 | Torne | since it's only using DMA by chance :) |
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| 19:17:54 | bertrik | linuxstb, you'll probably have to clean up some hacks in firmware/SOURCES too |
| 19:18:06 | gevaerts | That sentence is actually mainly there to make people interested in testing :) |
| 19:18:29 | Torne | gevaerts: Yes. That's probably sensible :) |
| 19:18:47 | gevaerts | There is a risk after all, even if we expect it to be very small |
| 19:18:56 | Torne | That'll do I think |
| 19:18:58 | Torne | and yes, of course |
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| 19:22:41 | mc2739 | gevaerts: Afftected players are : irived |
| 19:24:11 | gevaerts | where? |
| 19:25:31 | mc2739 | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=22270.0 |
| 19:26:04 | * | gevaerts looks in vain! |
| 19:26:43 | * | mc2739 cleans glasses |
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| 19:27:35 | * | gevaerts just hopes that mc2739 won't look at the last modification timestamp |
| 19:30:37 | CIA-69 | New commit by dave (r21983): Add quotes around the name of any missing tools (patch, make etc) to help clarify the error message |
| 19:30:38 | roolku | gevaerts: players are still "afftected" ;) |
| 19:31:09 | linuxstb | Oops, one too many files.... |
| 19:31:16 | gevaerts | roolku: never! |
| 19:33:25 | CIA-69 | New commit by dave (r21984): Oops: revert r21983 for checkwps.h - it was an unrelated change committed in error |
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| 19:37:03 | shotofadds | gevaerts: did you test r21981 on your D2? the SD card no longer works on bootup |
| 19:37:20 | shotofadds | I don't really understand that change |
| 19:37:44 | gibbon_ | seems like my build host is finally working :) |
| 19:39:42 | * | bertrik starts his build *client* :P |
| 19:40:09 | JdGordon| | mc2739: cuesheet is working fine for me on my ipod video.... are you doing something wierd for it to not show the title? |
| 19:41:12 | gevaerts | shotofadds: no, only on sansa. The problem was that on sansa, the card_info thing is only initialised during read or write, not before, so using the "initialized" flag made things not work |
| 19:41:28 | shotofadds | ah. any chance you could fix it? |
| 19:41:47 | mc2739 | JdGordon|: it shows title encoded in the id3 of the track. The cuesheet has different titles for different sections of the track - these titles are not shown now. |
| 19:42:04 | JdGordon| | these titles are shown for me... |
| 19:42:56 | gevaerts | shotofadds: I really didn't mean to get deep into drivers when doing this storage_* abstraction :\ |
| 19:43:13 | gevaerts | Also, I don't see why this would fail on the D2... |
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| 19:44:41 | mc2739 | here is my cuesheet http://pastie.org/552327 |
| 19:45:27 | mc2739 | although it has not changed and did work before |
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| 19:47:26 | gevaerts | shotofadds: it's basically doing what it did before FS #9545. disk.c used to just call card_detect() |
| 19:47:36 | JdGordon| | mc2739: does any of the info work? |
| 19:48:09 | shotofadds | gevaerts: ok, I'll have a look to see what the TCC driver is doing differently. I thought it was functionally identical to the PP driver :/ |
| 19:48:09 | JdGordon| | my test .cue doesnt have the FILE line, but that shuoldnt change anything |
| 19:48:52 | mc2739 | I get the hash marks, but the album and artist are the same as in the tags |
| 19:49:52 | JdGordon| | is this the first song in the playlist? |
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| 19:51:21 | mc2739 | I played that file from a directory with two other files. It is the second file in the directory. |
| 19:51:39 | JdGordon| | what target? |
| 19:52:12 | mc2739 | e200v1 and v2 |
| 19:53:07 | JdGordon| | do the marks come up instantly? |
| 19:53:12 | mc2739 | yes |
| 19:54:31 | JdGordon| | ok, well i'll have a look tonight, I have no idea why the marks are shoing but not the tags... |
| 19:54:41 | mc2739 | I just changed the title and artist data and tested - it is reading the changed data, but when I skip to the second mark, the data does not change to that data - it stays on the track 1 data |
| 19:56:07 | JdGordon| | just to be sure... this is with the very latest build? |
| 19:56:22 | mc2739 | r21982 |
| 19:56:52 | JdGordon| | *grumbles* |
| 19:58:42 | * | pixelma wonders what time is reported by the build client |
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| 20:01:47 | mc2739 | JdGordon|: Ok, sorry, maybe a false alarm. I just cleared settings and it looks like its working now |
| 20:02:08 | * | JdGordon| takes a sledgehammer to mc2739 :D |
| 20:02:16 | JdGordon| | ok, close the task then if it is actually working |
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| 20:02:33 | * | mc2739 deserves that |
| 20:03:12 | JdGordon| | would anyone complain if the cuesheet optoin was removed from swcodec? so it is always enabled? I think I can get its ram usage to 0 if the playlist tracks dont have a .cue |
| 20:03:24 | JdGordon| | hwcodec would keep the option though |
| 20:04:22 | mc2739 | is the cuesheet cached somewhere that survives reboots? |
| 20:04:51 | PaulJam_ | Llorean: concerning your comment in FS #10457, the manual says in chapter 7.13. "Also the information found in the cuesheet file will replace the information from the ID3 tags." |
| 20:05:45 | shotofadds | gevaerts: I don't know how to fix this, and I hadn't intended to spend the evening debugging :/ |
| 20:10:12 | JdGordon| | mc2739: no |
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| 20:12:49 | JdGordon| | Llorean: yeah, the cuesheet tags do overwrite the id3 tags for performer and track title |
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| 20:42:33 | gevaerts | shotofadds: if it worked properly on d2 before r21981, maybe we can just revert that one for sd-tcc780x.c? |
| 20:45:08 | * | pixelma is going to test r21984 on the Ondio |
| 20:45:40 | shotofadds | gevaerts: that would work in the meantime, yes. but right now I have a problem |
| 20:46:14 | shotofadds | while trying to spot differences between the PP and TCC drivers I copied in a couple of lines which were obvisouly wrong, and now my card won't power up at all |
| 20:46:24 | shotofadds | even with a PC card reader :/ |
| 20:46:29 | gevaerts | ouch |
| 20:46:37 | shotofadds | 16Gb SDHC |
| 20:46:47 | shotofadds | ouch even more |
| 20:46:55 | gevaerts | indeed so :( |
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| 20:47:26 | shotofadds | I only bought this one a few days ago to replace one I trashed a few weeks ago. Not happy... |
| 20:47:55 | pixelma | gevaerts: is roloing the same as booting with the new build (so I don't have to flash it and can easily return)? |
| 20:48:59 | Rand_Althor | gevaerts: Is there any way to use the c200erase tool on an external 4GB MicroSDHC card? |
| 20:49:24 | gevaerts | pixelma: it should be the same, yes |
| 20:49:36 | gevaerts | Rand_Althor: why would you want to do that? |
| 20:49:43 | shotofadds | is there any kind of card status register I can access before the card has power up fully? or is OCR all I have to go on> |
| 20:49:43 | pixelma | also, I consider testing with the smaller card first after reading shotofadds' story |
| 20:50:11 | shotofadds | pixelma: unfortunately the driver was working fine this morning :( |
| 20:50:28 | pixelma | sad to hear that |
| 20:50:52 | shotofadds | so i had a false sense of security.. but anyway my stupidity is off topic |
| 20:51:01 | JdGordon| | na :) |
| 20:51:01 | * | gevaerts thinks that this sounds like a case for the world famous Rockbox Fund |
| 20:51:19 | pixelma | indeed |
| 20:51:19 | Rand_Althor | gevaerts: seem to have altered some important bit on mine, so now the computers' BIOS sees it as a hard disk, and my DAP can't see it. |
| 20:51:45 | shotofadds | gevaerts: does it cover stupid people? |
| 20:52:53 | shotofadds | I dont understand what would have caused this card not to power up any more. OCR reports 0xFF8000 as it always did, but the 'powered up' bit never gets set, even after waiting 1sec+ |
| 20:52:58 | gevaerts | shotofadds: well, Zagor said it covered me when I managed to make early USB code read from SD and write to internal flash on my c200.. |
| 20:52:59 | Llorean | JdGordon|: Someone should update the wiki page then, I wasn't aware WPS tags were even listed in the manual |
| 20:53:16 | shotofadds | gevaerts: that's rather an impressive one, too ;-) |
| 20:53:33 | gevaerts | shotofadds: well, I did manage to recover it after a week or so :) |
| 20:53:52 | * | shotofadds will try a warranty replacement first |
| 20:54:48 | Llorean | JdGordon|: Why are they even the same tag? |
| 20:55:06 | gevaerts | Rand_Althor: c200erase uses the standard rockbox SD driver to access the flash, so if your card doesn't show up over USB when plugged into a sansa running rockbox, adapting it won't help anyway |
| 20:55:10 | Llorean | Shouldn't there be a cuesheet conditional? If there's cuesheet values, test the conditional to decide if they're used, so that people can keep using the ID3 values? |
| 20:55:14 | JdGordon| | because the cuesheet tags are literally copied onto the id3 tags... |
| 20:55:20 | Llorean | Much like we do with the folder structure - let people choose rather than defaulting. |
| 20:56:19 | JdGordon| | adding cue tags could be done.. but a massive PITA |
| 20:56:44 | Llorean | Well, at the very least, the CustomWPS page is wildly inaccurate. Whoever added support for that feature should've updated it. |
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| 20:57:23 | JdGordon| | if i remember, ill fix it tonight... need to check the code to be sure which tags get spoofed |
| 20:58:43 | Llorean | Thanks |
| 20:59:18 | bertrik | markun, any luck with the database scan idea yet? |
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| 21:00:47 | JdGordon| | Llorean: but yeah, not spoofing them would be better, and adding some cue specific tags would be a nice adition... |
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| 21:01:10 | JdGordon| | I'd like to see [1/3]/5 sort of thing for the playlist position |
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| 21:07:01 | pixelma | gevaerts: card present on boot and hotswap seems to be working correctly. I just notice one oddity which is that the new build crashes with an old one's resume data, I admit that there are a few revisions between them though (r21323) |
| 21:07:50 | pixelma | resume works with a resume point created with the new build (and even the old one accepts that) |
| 21:08:11 | JdGordon| | did someone fiddle with the ordering in settings_list.c and not bump the version number there? |
| 21:09:11 | gevaerts | pixelma: I don't think that can really be caused by the storage changes. Maybe the cuesheet changes? |
| 21:09:40 | JdGordon| | na, shouldnt have |
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| 21:10:10 | pixelma | sounds like a candidate though ;) |
| 21:10:40 | JdGordon| | lies and slandar! |
| 21:11:10 | pixelma | I could give you an address but that's with a backlight enabled build |
| 21:11:44 | JdGordon| | if you have the address then check your rockbox.map file |
| 21:12:39 | pixelma | I would but I seem to always forgot how it goes |
| 21:15:25 | JdGordon| | open it and do a search for the first 6 digits or so |
| 21:17:49 | pixelma | " 0x0000000009011150 _cuesheet_subtrack_changed" seems pretty close to I09: CPUAdrEr at 09011168 |
| 21:18:36 | JdGordon| | latest build? |
| 21:18:46 | pixelma | r21984 |
| 21:19:18 | JdGordon| | arg, I had that issue on my ajbr (yes amazingly i did some testing on it!) and thought I'd fixed it |
| 21:20:55 | pixelma | I don't have cuesheet support enabled |
| 21:22:54 | JdGordon| | its working again now though? |
| 21:23:14 | pixelma | it? |
| 21:23:36 | JdGordon| | you are still getting that error? |
| 21:23:48 | JdGordon| | it didnt vanish with a new resume point? |
| 21:24:18 | gevaerts | shotofadds: sd on boot seems to be working for me... |
| 21:24:32 | pixelma | JdGordon|: I only get the error with an old resume point in the new build, vanishes with a new resume point, yes |
| 21:25:10 | gevaerts | i.e. if I boot with SD inserted, I get the sd as root and the nand in <microSD1>. If I boot without SD inserted, I get nand as root, and SD in <microSD1> as soon as I insert it |
| 21:25:12 | JdGordon| | ok, not too woried about it then... curious why its getting there though |
| 21:25:34 | shotofadds | gevaerts: I know. I just tried a couple of other cards and both worked with latest SVN. I think this card must have been dead before I updated. |
| 21:25:40 | shotofadds | and that's rather more worrying |
| 21:26:28 | gevaerts | indeed. Eating cards is much worse than not booting every now and then |
| 21:29:59 | shotofadds | although I actually haven't used Rockbox with this card today |
| 21:30:27 | shotofadds | I copied some music to it this morning to listen to at work, then used the OF to listen to the radio for a few hours |
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| 21:33:11 | * | shotofadds will add some warnings to the wiki/forum and wait for any reports of dead cards. :/ |
| 21:41:32 | gevaerts | hm, I added bits of yellow apparently |
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| 21:46:40 | CIA-69 | New commit by gevaerts (r21985): sd_first_drive is only used when HAVE_HOTSWAP is defined, so add appropriate #ifdefs |
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| 21:53:03 | gevaerts | We need more fast build clients... |
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| 21:53:50 | derekja | I installed rockbox on a 60 gb ipod. At first I installed the 60gb version, however when I started having crashes, I uninstalled that one and installed the 30gb version. It now crashes less frequently, but still does. Why would this be? |
| 21:55:11 | gevaerts | You didn't have crashes at first with the 64mb build? |
| 21:55:38 | derekja | gevaerts: I did have crashes with it. |
| 21:55:55 | gevaerts | right from the start, or only after a while? |
| 21:56:05 | derekja | gevaerts: right from the start |
| 21:56:44 | gevaerts | ok. the 32mb build sounds like the right thing to try then, but then that one shouldn't crash... |
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| 21:57:06 | derekja | gevaerts: I tried that one, less crashes, but still some. |
| 21:57:38 | Rand_Althor | after that it boots OF |
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| 21:58:44 | gevaerts | derekja: I'd say that the most probable cause is a filesystem that's not entirely clean. I'd run chkdsk or fsck.vfat on it |
| 21:58:57 | derekja | gevaerts: thanks |
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| 22:01:25 | pixelma | JdGordon|: after flashing the new build, it crashes every time if I want to start playback somehow (same address), either starting a new playlist (tried to resume the old one first and then even deleted the playlist control file) |
| 22:02:14 | JdGordon| | crap |
| 22:02:19 | pixelma | I don't know why that hasn't happened with the rolo'ed build |
| 22:02:48 | JdGordon| | I guess this shuold affect al hwcodec targets? |
| 22:02:48 | gevaerts | an initialisation issue? |
| 22:04:26 | Rand_Althor | My c200 can see my microSD cars, but my e200R cannot. |
| 22:04:33 | Rand_Althor | *cards |
| 22:04:53 | pixelma | JdGordon|: I would guess so but can only test this one |
| 22:05:10 | JdGordon| | which one is this one? |
| 22:05:32 | pixelma | OndioFM |
| 22:06:21 | JdGordon| | ok, can you stick it on FS? ill try to look tonight |
| 22:06:52 | JdGordon| | I saw this in my testing as got it working on my ajbr so i dunno whats happening |
| 22:08:33 | mc2739 | JdGordon|: My cuesheet anomalies are back. It only happens when I switch to the widecabbie theme. |
| 22:08:53 | * | JdGordon| bangs head on keyboard |
| 22:09:40 | mc2739 | don;t do that, you'll break the keyboard :) |
| 22:10:33 | pixelma | cuesheet support enabled/disabled doesn't make a difference and I also disabled voice to find out if that's something related (as I saw voice functions near in the map file) |
| 22:10:53 | Rand_Althor | Correction: On my e200R RB can't see the external card, but the OF can...? |
| 22:11:23 | mc2739 | There must be something odd in that theme. All the other stock themes work fine. |
| 22:11:31 | gevaerts | Rand_Althor: which revision are you running? |
| 22:12:08 | Rand_Althor | r21979 |
| 22:12:12 | JdGordon| | amiconn: what does CPuAdrEr actually mean? |
| 22:12:52 | gevaerts | Rand_Althor: does it see the card if you remove it and then put it back in? |
| 22:13:06 | Rand_Althor | while RB is running? |
| 22:13:18 | gevaerts | yes |
| 22:13:36 | Rand_Althor | yes |
| 22:14:05 | gevaerts | ok. Then just upgrade to the latest build. That bug was solved in r21981 |
| 22:14:31 | Rand_Althor | whew. thankls |
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| 22:15:00 | Rand_Althor | (sorry all the typos (smashed finger) |
| 22:15:19 | JdGordon| | pixelma : if you can be bothered... have a look in apps/cuesheet.c in function cuesheet_subtrack_changed() and just make sure it does if (cue) (or similar) around all the logic code? |
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| 22:16:18 | pixelma | it looks like widecabbie also draws into the main (full screen) viewport even though it's using more viewports |
| 22:17:55 | gevaerts | ej0rge: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuildClient |
| 22:18:01 | Zagor | I've started experimenting with using score/sec as client speed measurement, which lets me experiment with using a best-fit algorithm instead of the current model. it could theoretically save quite a bit of time. |
| 22:18:13 | * | pixelma always thought that this is potentially troublesome as it means overlapping viewports |
| 22:18:19 | ej0rge | gevaerts: thanks |
| 22:20:56 | gevaerts | Zagor: sounds interesting! I still think (without much proof) that the current system can make things slower if there are too many slow clients |
| 22:21:46 | Zagor | gevaerts: yes it could. a best-fit could eliminate most of the speculative building |
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| 22:22:00 | * | mc2739 puts out his hand for more speed |
| 22:22:13 | pixelma | JdGordon|: there is a longish "if (cue && ...)" around most parts of that function, only "struct cuesheet *cue = id3->cuesheet;" ouside of it |
| 22:23:04 | * | gevaerts looks at the stats for the latest build round and tells Zagor that he won't be happy with any build that takes longer than three minutes ;) |
| 22:24:39 | | Part Grahack |
| 22:26:14 | Zagor | gevaerts: we need more horsepower for three minute rounds. our workload is 1177729 points, and we work at a rate of ~4500-4700 points/second |
| 22:27:23 | gevaerts | Zagor: does that include thrown away horsepower? |
| 22:27:58 | Zagor | no, that is the raw unwasted speed. (average of last 25 builds for 38 clients) |
| 22:28:19 | Zagor | excluding upload times too, of course |
| 22:29:27 | Zagor | with those numbers I hope to get steady ~270 second builds |
| 22:29:34 | gevaerts | Anyway, that looks like equivalent to 45 2.33GHz cores. Not bad... |
| 22:29:50 | Zagor | s/builds/rounds |
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| 22:30:27 | Zagor | yeah it's quite a "park" |
| 22:30:43 | bertrik | this trying-to-reuse-the-tcc-usb-driver thing is confusing |
| 22:30:50 | soap | this should be calibrated, not to 2.33GHz core2 cores, but to Pentium 66s. |
| 22:32:10 | bertrik | some of the current s5l8700 register defines don't match with the samsung datasheet, but seem to match the OF, not sure how they match with the tcc-usb code, or with the tcc-usb docs |
| 22:33:22 | bertrik | I would be happy to first just get some kind of indication from the host address it has seen *anything* (like a USB device connect event) |
| 22:33:32 | bertrik | -address |
| 22:35:47 | JdGordon| | pixelma: ok thats what I thought.. thats correct |
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| 22:39:40 | Zagor | gevaerts: with the 41-client setup from r21985 the round could be finished in 229 seconds. still a long way to 180... |
| 22:41:01 | gevaerts | Zagor: indeed. I was misled by the 7655 cpu seconds (56%) for cancelled builds. Those are probably mostly slow CPU seconds... |
| 22:41:25 | Zagor | yes they are |
| 22:41:48 | Zagor | once the slow clients finish their bootloaders, they are pretty much out of the game |
| 22:42:25 | gevaerts | yes. That's where better packing comes in. Have some of them do bootloaders, while others do full builds they can just manage... |
| 22:42:29 | Zagor | in contrast, the best-fit has monster-gevaerts doing playersim and satellite-marianne doing sa9200sim |
| 22:43:31 | gevaerts | hm, does monster have sdl? |
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| 22:43:55 | * | AlexP thinks the gevaerts after the monster- means that gevaerts might know that :) |
| 22:43:56 | Zagor | ah well, it's a test matching only. i haven't included the arch limits in it yet. |
| 22:44:29 | * | Dhraakellian wonders how hard it would be to make Sudoku save possible values |
| 22:44:57 | gevaerts | installing sdl now :) |
| 22:45:17 | linuxstb | Dhraakellian: You mean the scratchpad thing? IIRC, there's a patch to do that on flyspray. |
| 22:45:32 | Dhraakellian | ooh |
| 22:45:44 | Dhraakellian | scratchpad... that's a word for it |
| 22:46:10 | linuxstb | bertrik: markun told me he created s5l8700.h from the datasheet, so that's strange if they don't match... |
| 22:46:20 | pixelma | that patch is quite old, don't know if it still applies cleanly |
| 22:46:49 | JdGordon| | it probably does |
| 22:46:54 | JdGordon| | plugins barely change |
| 22:47:52 | pixelma | well, removal of the oldpluginapi caused a change in sudoku, and I also think the markers came after that patch |
| 22:50:05 | bertrik | linuxstb, well it does match the OF code better than the documentation does, so it was probaby intentional or maybe I don't have the proper datasheet |
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| 22:51:07 | linuxstb | bertrik: Which registers are you talking about? |
| 22:51:46 | pixelma | I wonders whether I should also give my build client a user name with my nick so any mention would ping me here too |
| 22:51:57 | bertrik | of the USB PHY, for example URSTCON |
| 22:52:17 | pixelma | or... set another highlight |
| 22:52:52 | Zagor | I ask new client owners to use their irc nicks as username, so I guess we should do it too |
| 22:52:55 | linuxstb | bertrik: That matches my version of the datasheet - 0x3c400008 |
| 22:53:17 | pixelma | ok, I'll change that then |
| 22:53:25 | gevaerts | indeed. Those bjst clients are just obscure :) |
| 22:53:38 | Zagor | exactly... |
| 22:54:37 | bertrik | ok URSTCON is as expected, but UCLKCON is not |
| 22:54:47 | pixelma | of course, I start off with 0 points now again |
| 22:55:18 | pixelma | not that it had a noticeable amount more before ;) |
| 22:56:15 | Zagor | pixelma: I'll fix that |
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| 23:00:58 | * | B4gder is now officially planning to do a rockbox-related talk on FSCONS 2009 |
| 23:01:21 | gevaerts | \☺/ |
| 23:02:01 | pixelma | gevaerts: already fixed but r21977 gives me a "No partition found. Insert cable and fix it." when I rolo it - with ot without MMC |
| 23:02:28 | pixelma | I never saw that error before |
| 23:02:50 | gevaerts | hm, good thing I changed that... |
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| 23:28:54 | pixelma | I "still" have the CPUAdrEr with r21977 but updated ata_mmc |
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| 23:29:36 | pixelma | even deleted .playlist-control |
| 23:30:03 | JdGordon| | comment out that whole cuesheet block |
| 23:30:12 | CIA-69 | New commit by dave (r21986): Nano2G Backlight driver improvements - the previous version didn't work reliably. |
| 23:30:55 | pixelma | of course the address is slightly different and seems to be in _gui_wps_update. JdGordon|: r21977 was from before your cuesheet commit |
| 23:31:32 | JdGordon| | ok |
| 23:36:56 | pixelma | Zagor: "Server message: Build round completed after 0 seconds." is it just me, or is there something broken in general? |
| 23:37:11 | Zagor | it broke the server. fixing now... |
| 23:37:16 | Zagor | s/it/I |
| 23:38:04 | Zagor | heh, still broken... |
| 23:41:08 | r0b- | what are cue sheets good for in rockbox? |
| 23:41:37 | AlexP | Rockbox just has support for cue sheets |
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| 23:41:44 | AlexP | They aren't a Rockbox pecific thing |
| 23:41:46 | pixelma | JdGordon|: I start wondering whether it's something different but which has to do with WPS drawing (maybe progressbar drawing) so that it just hits in cuesheet niw |
| 23:41:51 | pixelma | now too |
| 23:41:54 | AlexP | *specific |
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| 23:43:39 | r0b- | well why support them in rockbox? |
| 23:43:55 | gevaerts | because people want to use them? |
| 23:43:57 | AlexP | Why support MP3? |
| 23:44:11 | r0b- | :| |
| 23:44:24 | AlexP | It is a bit of a silly question to be honest |
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| 23:58:16 | stripwax | saratoga - (for the logs) - dunno how reliable this is, but here's your cook profile. http://pastebin.com/m39751f9c |
icon identifies that the person is a core developer (has commit access).