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#rockbox log for 2009-07-30

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00:01:55BdN3504thanks for the help, but i am out of luck i guess. i get this error:
00:02:10BdN3504i think i don't have enought space on the vm
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00:07:41BdN3504nvm i also got miktex installed, i'll just use that for manual compilation now. It acutally works!
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00:22:33BdN3504is it normal, that the manual i built myself and the manual on look differently? for example, in the manual i built myself every new chapter and subchapter are perceded by an "." "1.1." "3.5.6." etc.
00:22:58BdN3504and in the manual, all the pagenumbers are wrong in my build
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00:26:59pixelmais this with patched or edited source?
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00:28:15BdN3504yes, i patched it. but that shouldn't break things like page numbers for the first chapter, when the first addition i made is in chapter 10.something, right?
00:30:28pixelmait could as the index and page numbers etc. are "collected" during a second run through the build, sometimes it still manages to build the first part (the text) continuing even in case of an error
00:31:44pixelmanot a 100% sure if that's what you are seeing though (as I don't know your changes)
00:32:22BdN3504ok, i get a lot of errors. let me check if still get them with an unpatched build and see, if the manual errors are present there too.
00:33:28pixelmayou will get the lot of underfull and overfull "hbox" errors even in a clean tree, unfortunately that output sometimes hides the real error
00:35:29BdN3504thanks for clearing that up
00:36:51pixelmais there a patch somewhere?
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00:39:04BdN3504you mean the one i applied?
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00:39:40pixelmayes. By the way, you can usually force a newline with \\ (I didn't understand what you actually wanted to achieve)
00:41:25BdN3504haha, how do you remember? i get bunch of these compiling an unpatched manual "undefined control sequence" and also the page numbers are wrong in the unpatched version.
00:42:00BdN3504patch is here;
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00:59:07pixelmathe undefined control sequence sounds wrong (and is probably causing the missing page numbers), I'm going to try if it happens for me too but daily builds of today exist so it doesn't look like something is broken in the source
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01:02:22BdN3504i also suspect it has something to do with my setup... i just use my builds to see how things would look like, so it's actually not such a big deal if the page numbers are incorrect. thanks for your help anyways
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05:28:27fbthello, what would be the best way to start from scratch on an ipod nano, as in fully erase mrb, and start all over again to get rockbox working?
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06:03:40fbtI;ve tried everything but I still get the "Use iTunes to restore" message, and I don't have a Windows box with iTunes available :S
06:04:06saratogahave you seen the manualrestore wiki page?
06:05:14fbtyes, I followed every step
06:06:24fbtIt worked before, but now I made an update on all those steps, and it's not working anymore
06:07:01fbtis there a way on the linux command line or something to completely clear any partition and mbr and start all over again?
06:08:47saratogai think just starting over from the beginning does that
06:11:29fbtfor some reason, once i load the mbr, I still get the "Use iTunes to restore" message when I unplug it, i think there's some more flashing to do or something
06:13:18saratogafbt: I've never done that procedure, but isn't that supposed to happen?
06:13:34saratogaif you've loaded the MBR the file system is still missing, so I think it would ask you to restore
06:15:00fbtmaybe, it hadn't happened before
06:15:17fbtnow I'm getting this error when loading the Firmware (following the manual restore guide): dd: writing to `/dev/sdc1': No space left on device
06:15:55fbtfreaking Apple!
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06:22:06joecoolhey is it possible to flash a 5.5g ipod with the 5g firmware
06:22:29joecoolreason being, i cooked a mobo on a 5g and the 5.5g will not read the 512-byte sector size format
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06:53:44tmztjoecool: is that a hardware differernce? why does sector side matter?
06:54:38joecooltmzt: no it's a firmware difference on the two generations
06:55:00joecooltmzt: i CAN use the same drive, it just needs to be reformatted with the new sector size
06:55:09joecoolbut i need the data off it first
06:56:18joecooli mean i can get the old 512-byte drive to boot into disc mode, it won't boot the normal firmware up though, both the ipodos and linux throws a shitfit
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07:10:08tmztah, okay. don't know if there is a tutorial or anything for that
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08:19:49webguest08ne one know when the ams series of ansa wil be supported?
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08:21:12linuxstbwebguest08: Which one? They're all progressing at different speeds.
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08:23:39fg56lxI updated to the most recent version of Rockbox lastnight, and now when I plug my mp3 player into my computer(running Kubuntu 9.04) it doesnt recognize it when I turn it on. Why would this happen?
08:25:21linuxstbfg56lx: Which player?
08:26:29fg56lxToshiba Gigabeat F40.
08:26:44fg56lxlsusb returns shows it as "Bus 002 Device 008: ID 0930:0009 Toshiba Corp. Gigabeat F/X (HDD audio player)
08:27:05fg56lxIt just wont mount and show up under my "reccently plugged in devies" anymore.
08:27:43linuxstbMaybe it's this (Ubuntu) bug -
08:28:47linuxstbBut you're saying the only thing that changed was Rockbox, not your Ubuntu/?
08:29:02fg56lxIt has been working fine, upgraded lastnight, now its not recognizing it.
08:29:15fg56lxAnd I just came across that bug, and I am trying it right now.
08:29:19*linuxstb shrugs then
08:29:45fg56lxWell what do you know, that fixed it.
08:29:52fg56lxThanks anyway.
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18:09:54funmanFlynDice: did you try using 48MHz PCLK, so µSD slot frequency could be 24MHz (close to 25)
18:11:30FlynDicefunman: Yes, but it works the same as if I run it at 15.5, I can browse the files but not play them
18:11:46FlynDicerun the card that is
18:12:06funmanthere won't be no abort or such?
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18:12:18saratogadoes test_disk give anything?
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18:12:49funmanyou can change the test directory to "<MicroSD1>/__TEST__" (i think) to use test_disk on the µSD card
18:13:30funman"<microSD1>/" (in firmware/include/dir.h)
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18:14:17saratogahow hard is it to adjust the microsd clock ?
18:14:51FlynDiceno abort, I just can't get the files to play. I tried adjusting the delays but haven't had any luck yet
18:16:14saratogais it possible to try small decreases to the clock? something between 60 and 48MHz to see if it makes any difference
18:16:32funmanyou'd have to change pclk
18:16:45funmanMCI_CLOCK can only be an even integer fraction of pclk
18:17:14saratogaright now we run at it 60MHz with a divider of 1?
18:17:21FlynDiceI tried running PCLK at~49 and using bypass for mciclk=pclk with same results
18:17:25funman62MHz with no dividing
18:17:57saratogamaybe 62 with a divider of 4 for MCI would be safer
18:18:00FlynDicean even integer fraction...
18:19:52funmansaratoga: that's what FlynDice tried but it seems it can not play audio from the card
18:24:10funmanfor me the microsd isn't even mounted
18:25:03FlynDiceare you running both cards at 15 or just the uSD?
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18:26:00funmaninternal storage at 15.5MHz won't boot
18:26:13FlynDiceyes that's what I found also
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18:29:32funmanwith µSD clock at 31MHz, i can see the files, but deleting a folder will cause an error in transfer (data crc fail)
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18:30:11FlynDicegotta go, I'll try test_disk on the way to Tuscon this afternoon and see what kind of results I can find
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18:33:27kugeli have such a problematic transcend class6 microsd, it works on my fuze
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18:53:00kugelfunman: did you see my message?
18:56:04funmankugel: yes, but i don't understand what you want to mean
18:58:49kugelfunman: iirc those class6 transcend cards are causing most problems (if not all)?
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18:59:31funmanno idea, someone sent me a problematic card but it's still not here
19:00:02kugelwell, it seems i've only read of those in the test build thread
19:00:59*ej0rge still needs to try his class 2 sandisk cards in the fuze
19:01:50saratogado different classes operate at different clock speeds or are they just able to process data with less delay?
19:02:31funmanhigh class cards can operate with an higher clock (max 50MHz)
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19:05:44kugelclass 6 too
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19:07:27funmani think that's the one he sent me
19:08:42ej0rgei have an A-Data class 6 that hasn't been problematic, iirc
19:08:52kugelhe doesn't have other cards. a 8gb and a 4gb, both transcent class 6
19:09:16kugelbut he only seems to have problems with deleting dirs and creating bookmarks?
19:12:39JdGordonkugel: hey, have you done anything about renaming wps_engine yet?
19:12:46kugelhow do I create bookmarks on the microsd?
19:13:45kugelJdGordon: no, I'm not at home atm (since almost week), and have no possibility to code
19:13:56funmanthe same way you create bookmarks on internal storage files : you have to play them and go into the playing menu
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19:14:25JdGordonlame excuse :)
19:15:39kugelfunman: works for me
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19:16:42funmanwhere did you get the card?
19:18:57kugelit's not mine, I
19:19:18kugelI'm at my brother, he bought the card from "conrad"
19:20:51*bertrik want this communication with the melfas touch key controller in his samsung yp-s3 to give any sign of life at all
19:20:55funmanah so you're the first to test it
19:21:13funmanwe are still not sure if the problem happens on specific fuzes or specific cards
19:21:22kugelbtw, it says "fully compatible with sd 2.0 specs" on the box
19:21:41funmani can write that on a box of ham ;)
19:22:17kugelnice for you
19:22:34kugelmaybe earlier cards weren't fully compatible?
19:22:43funmanjust to tell the fact that it's written doesn't imply it's true, i take that as pure marketing
19:23:18kugelI know what you're saying, but I don't think they're doing illegal stuff
19:23:38kugelthis kind of marketing doesn't work for user joe anyway
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19:28:50kugelmcuelenaere: did that fix pf for the onda?
19:30:16mcuelenaerekugel: nope it didn't, that was already for some time in my trunk; I just forgot to commit it
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19:40:57kugelsaratoga: PP bootloaders are released?
19:43:21Blue_DudeHi guys. Can someone take a look at a couple of flyspray items I have open? They've been kinda languishing for a while. FS #10446 is really short. And FS #10375 has been superceded by FS #10199.
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19:49:27MikachuBlue_Dude: do you want 10375 to be closed as a duplicate of 10199?
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19:51:14Blue_DudeMikachu: Yeah, that code was incorporated into #10199. I originally had it as a separate item in case it was worthwhile to use it as its own DSP tool. But there's not much interest so I'm going to fully integrate the buffer code into the limiter code.
19:52:16Mikachuthere we go
19:52:52mcuelenaereBlue_Dude: RE FS #10446: is there a case in Rockbox where these loops are called with a count of 0? IIRC it is preferred if there isn't much defensive code in Rockbox and IIRC do while loops are faster than while loops..
19:53:20Mikachuwhy would they be faster? :)
19:53:41mcuelenaereI just remember seeing comments in Rockbox saying 'tail loops are faster' ;)
19:54:04Blue_Dudemcuelenaere: I don't think they're ever supposed to be called with a zero count, but there's nothing to prevent it either.
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19:54:31Blue_DudeThanks Mikachu.
19:54:44linuxstbkugel: They've been put on the download server, but in the wrong place...
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19:55:46kugellinuxstb: I see. shouldn't the release be tagged?
19:56:54n1sMikachu: you get two extra jumps at the end of a while loop compared to a do-while, at least unless the compiler does any magic to it
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19:57:47linuxstbkugel: Yes.
19:58:42bertrikI can probably improve the meizu lcd driver with the knowledge from the samsung yp-s3 lcd driver
19:59:15bertrikthe meizu m3 lcd driver just writes to the controller without ever checking if the controller is ready to accept the data
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20:03:26Blue_DudeHm. If #10446 is going to hurt performance then scrap it. I put it in there with the assumption that program flow would be equivalent except for the count=0 case.
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20:04:05kugeltest if it hurts? I don't think the impact is noticeable
20:04:47kugeldoes it fix any known bugs, btw?
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20:08:27mcuelenaerekugel: he said there isn't any code in Rockbox currently that triggers that bug
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20:08:37Blue_DudeI'm not sure how to test for a possible performance hit on the target. Any ideas? As far as *known* bugs, no. This is purely defense in case another routine misbehaves and calls with a 0 count.
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20:09:31mcuelenaereBlue_Dude: there is support for profiling in Rockbox, but I'm not familiar with it
20:09:49kugelBlue_Dude: did you try svn blame to see who added those lines?
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20:10:15kugelthat guy might have a better clue than we do
20:10:17Blue_Dudekugel: Which lines? You mean the original do-while loops?
20:10:44linuxstbBlue_Dude: Adding DSP processing to test_codec would enable you to test...
20:10:46Blue_DudeI've never tried to use svn blame, so no.
20:11:19*linuxstb recommends a positive attitude and "svn praise"
20:12:08Blue_Dudelinuxstb: Um, I haven't used test_codec either. What does it do?
20:13:18linuxstbIt's a plugin (viewer) that decodes a file and times a long it takes.
20:13:32linuxstbIt's not built by default, you need to add it to apps/plugins/SOURCES
20:15:13Blue_DudeOK, I'll give that a shot, with before/after compilations.
20:17:08Blue_DudeI just ran svn blame on dsp.c (OK, praise...) and that was cool. It looks like jethead71 owns the latest changes to all the do-while loops.
20:18:21kugelthat's jhMikeS, he's rarely online lately though
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20:19:43n1sBlue_Dude: test_codec will not help you as it is now, it doesn't test dsp
20:19:59n1syou'd have to add that functionality
20:20:29Blue_DudeHrm. Yikes. OK
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20:21:18Blue_DudeI'm not sure that's doable though. I mean, the DSP comes after the codec is finished in the signal chain.
20:23:14linuxstbBlue_Dude: test_codec re-implements the codec API, and then either writes the data produced by the codec to a WAV file, or discards it. You'll just need to add the relevant calls to the dsp functions there, in the same places they appear in the real codec API.
20:24:17Blue_DudeOh OK, so it doesn't run as a codec? That would explain why it's a plugin. Duh.
20:24:34Blue_DudeI'll get there eventually. I'm slow though.
20:29:05Blue_Dudelinuxstb: Since it's a plugin, obviously I have to use the plugin API. Am I able to call core DSP functions from there?
20:29:48linuxstbYou'll probably need to add them to the plugin API.
20:29:57n1sBlue_Dude: you can add what you need to the API se plugin.[ch]
20:30:01linuxstb(see plugin.h/plugin.c - there are lots of comments there)
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20:32:14Blue_DudeI don't mind doing it, but do you really want me to monkey around with the API just to test another patch that may or may not solve any problems? Or is there a need for test_codec to test DSP functions anyway?
20:33:43n1syeah, i think it could be useful in other cases
20:33:49saratogait'd be nice to have that in test_codec
20:33:55saratogaits been on our todo list for years
20:34:01n1sespecially being able to save the output after dsp
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20:35:01Blue_DudeOK, consider it done... eventually. It looks like dsp_configure and dsp_process are both in the API anyway.
20:35:59Blue_Duden1s: BTW, you can already save DSP output as a PCM file from the simulator. Use the −−debugaudio switch.
20:36:47n1sBlue_Dude: yeah, but it could be useful for checking correctness of asm implementations on target for example
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20:39:07Blue_Duden1s: I wrote some code a couple of months ago that would do that, but ditched it in favor of the existing code. It looks like the majority of it is duplicated in test_codec. It's just a matter of pushing the output of test_codec further down the signal chain.
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20:41:54n1ssounds good, just keep the capability to ru
20:42:05n1sn codecs without dsp :)
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20:43:59Blue_DudeWill anyone get bent out of shape if I have to advance the plugin API version? There are a couple of functions that ought to be called that need to be included. I could add them to the end but it's cleaner this way.
20:44:20saratogai think advancing it is fine
20:45:42Blue_Dudempegplayer needs updating too. It calls dsp_process without first calling dsp_output_count or dsp_input_count. That's a no no.
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20:47:56Blue_DudeDoes test_codec *actually* put anything in the PCM buffer or just fake it?
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21:49:01lasserHi there! After Daniels call for participation in building rockbox 3 days ago I tried to run the build client for longer times. But after a few hours the server connection stalls every 10 minutes or so. What is going wrong there?
21:50:14lasserI'm running the announced VMware-image 1.1.7 from on Debian Lenny
21:51:03rasherCould be an issue with vmware or your connection. The ping timeout seems a bit low
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21:54:40lasserMy connection seems to be very stable since years, I'm not experiencing any other errors. But that doesn't have to mean something, of course...
21:56:47ToHi all. I can't format, delete or put any files on my Sansa E250 after installing rockbox and playing with it for a while.
21:56:58lasserI downloaded the source for the VMware Player 2.5.2 build-156735 directly from VMware and compiled it myself. No errors at all...
21:57:14ToE260 btw...
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21:57:49lasserTo: Did you try it with the OF?
21:58:26ToWhat do you mean by trying?
21:58:53saratogaBlue_Dude: no it does not, it actually steals most of the RAM to use for buffering
21:59:26ToI tried adding and deleting files with linux and windows
22:00:09Toafter reboot nothing changed, that's why I tried formatting
22:00:21r0b-To i own an e250 and i dont have that issue
22:00:27r0b-are you sure its in MSC mode and not MTP?
22:00:49r0b-that doesnt make sense
22:00:52r0b-my e250 works fin
22:01:05ToNo problem to read files, just can't do anything with it anymore
22:01:27r0b-how long have you had the player?
22:01:32To1 hour
22:01:39saratogais this a v1 or a v2 e200?
22:02:11r0b-something doesnt make sense
22:02:32lasserTo: Can you start the original firmware of the e260?
22:03:15Toyes that is no problem. Rockbox can't start anymore, because all files vanished
22:03:29r0b-reinstall rockbox :)
22:03:50ToI can't reinstall anything... my whole device is read only
22:04:57Tocould it be a bootloader issue?
22:05:23r0b-i never had that issue
22:05:29JaykayTo: what happens if you copy some files to the player?
22:05:40r0b-and i have had my e250v1 for 2 and a half months
22:05:48Jaykaynothing or do you get an error message?
22:06:16ToIn Linux and Windows the same. It appears to be going fine, but after reboot nothing changed
22:06:41Tono errors. The only error I got, was after trying to format
22:07:03To"can't finish formatting" or something like that
22:07:23r0b-formatting can ruin it :P
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22:08:05Toin the current state it is pretty useless anyway.
22:08:59JaykayTo: and did you try to boot the OF and then copy files?
22:09:35Toyes, OF is the only thing working anyway right now
22:10:05Jaykayyou can't atart rockbox?
22:10:35Tono, that is not possible. Directory .rockbox is not present anymore
22:11:11oboTo: have you tried chkdsk/fsck.vfat?
22:11:13Jaykayhow did you delete that when you can't delete anything?
22:11:46ToYes tried fsck.vfat -a, didn't help
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22:13:04ToI didn't delete anything that happened automatically after trying to copy a bunch of files
22:14:36ToRockbox did function for a while...
22:15:17lasserrasher: And it is not related to VMware, the same thing happens running the on my native machine.
22:16:12rasherlasser: So it's not related to vmware or my image?
22:18:12lasserrasher: obviously not vmware, and probably not your image, but perhaps
22:19:26pixelmaTo: did you transfer the files with Rockbox or in the original firmware - and from your computer to the player, or copy them within Rockbox (e.g. from microSD to the player or so)?
22:20:00rasherlasser: I only mention the bit about the network connection because my client would drop rather often when I had my laptop in a location with poor wifi reception. Everything else was fine, but rbclient lost the connection
22:21:06lasserrasher: hmmm... Maybe you're right, but how can I test that?
22:22:15ToI've tried both. First with rockbox, but files transfered very slow. After that I tried the OF, that was faster. The last copy action before the problems started were with OF. I copied the files from PC to E260
22:23:00rasherlasser: Not sure, to be honest
22:23:32saratogaat very least you have a corrupt file system and need to either repair or reformat it
22:23:41saratogano idea how it became corrupted though
22:24:09pixelmaTo: and which "problems" started then? Was it just that you didn't see the files in the file browser?
22:25:28Tosaratoga: Yes I might try to unbrick it, but that seems to be a bit risky
22:25:37pixelmaor did Rockbox already have trouble booting? I'm just trying to understand what happened
22:25:47Topixelma: after copying a lot of files
22:25:57saratogaunbrick it? i thought you said the retail firmware works
22:26:21pixelmaTo: yes, what happened then first, before you reformatted it?
22:27:24Topixelma: it didn't have trouble booting (still doesn't). I had some slow transfer rates with rockbox.
22:28:39Tosaratoga: yes, I can start, but maybe the unbrick method works for this problem as well. I'm no expert
22:28:45pixelmasorry, I don't understand what your problem is then...
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22:29:57Jaykaypixelma: he can't write files and rockbox don't start anymore
22:30:59saratogajust run checkdisk orwhatever
22:31:05pixelmabut he just said "it didn't have trouble booting. I asked for booting Rockbox explicitely
22:31:06Tobasically it has turned into a read only device after trying to copy a lot of files.
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22:31:46Tosaratoga: I have done a fsck.vfat -a
22:32:44Jaykaypixelma: "can you start rockbox?" "no, that is not possible. Directory .rockbox is not present anymore"
22:33:08Tocorrect I can boot in OF and .rockbox is gone
22:34:21Toafter trying to copy a directory >1 GB transfer stopped. I then disconnected the E260, rebooted and .rockbox was gone.
22:34:56pixelmaI just though of the possibility that you mistook the OF's feature to hide the music folder for "I can't write to it anymore". Seems like I don't get there with indirect investigating...
22:35:51ToI don't think this is just a noob problem, there is something really wrong
22:36:29Tobut if someone can proof me wrong, I will buy him a beer :)
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22:38:39lasserTo: how do you mount the e260?
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22:41:28Toautomount in Ubuntu. Also tried manual mounting: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdd1 /media/sansa
22:42:16lasserTo: and you have write permission to /media/sansa?
22:43:27Toit seems everything is ok. only after rebooting none of the files are on the device
22:43:28lasserbad... I'm out :-(
22:44:07Jaykaycan you open a file after you copied it and before you reboot?
22:45:06ToAfter copying and disconnecting, the device immidiately reboots
22:45:16Toso I can't check that
22:45:34evilnickTo: So what about if you don't disconnect
22:45:43evilnickTry reading it back while the Sansa is still attached
22:45:59Tothen it stays in transfer mode
22:46:57Tobut I tried recording something, and that wasn't saved on the device as well.
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23:06:47[TiZ]Hi. I'm on Linux trying to use Rockbox Utility, and more specifically, on XFCE, a desktop environment that primarily uses GTK. I have qt 4.5, which includes QGTKStyle, which allows qt apps to use the gtk style. But for some reason, Rockbox Utility isn't using it. Why is that?
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23:07:12LambdaCalculus37Because Rockbox Utility isn't written with the gtk libraries.
23:07:32IuDeXdoes anyone have any ideas how to delete crossfade on clip?(proobably it's crashing playback)
23:09:36[TiZ]I know that Rockbox Utility is written with qt. Qt apps, I would think, are normally supposed to inherit the gtk style.
23:09:45[TiZ]But it's not using any style at all.
23:11:09ej0rgewe apologize for the unstylish appearance of rbutil
23:13:05Mikachu[TiZ]: rbutil is statically linked to qt if you downloaded it from
23:13:44domonoky[TiZ]: maybe its because its statically linked..
23:14:05[TiZ]Mikachu, domonoky: Oh, okay. That makes sense.
23:14:41[TiZ]I'll compile it from source. Thank you very much. :)
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23:15:22Mikachuhow long do you usually look at rbutil when installing rockbox? 3 minutes?
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23:21:38bluebrotherdomonoky, LambdaCalculus37: it is because of static linking. Programs linked statically can't use Qt plugins, and styles are kind of plugins.
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23:22:08bluebrotherI have the same issue on my build machine (which uses QtCurve as style)
23:22:50bluebrotherbasically all styles that are not shipped with Qt won't work. Except if built dynamically linked of course. One reason to not use static builds when developing :)
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23:36:32martian67i have similar problems with GTK apps on windows not sharing the same theme
23:36:42martian67since many people choose to compile GTK on windows staticly
23:37:37martian67always have to hunt for a NO_GTK binary :/
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