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#rockbox log for 2009-09-07

00:02:26JdGordoncrikey the %C handling is wierd
00:03:08JdGordonapparently i was wrong about how it works
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00:33:59kugelJdGordon: Why the violence?
00:34:11JdGordonwhich in particular?
00:35:56*JdGordon has AA in a viewport working again
00:36:32JdGordonit wasnt *my* bug though!
00:39:49JdGordonsort of
00:44:22kugel"JdGordon punches kugel in the nose!"
00:44:51JdGordondont expect bugs fixed if you 1) dont put them on FS and 2) report them to me on a friday :/
00:45:45kugelnice to hear it works again, where was the bug?
00:46:07JdGordonread the forum thread.... bassically the AA was always done very wierdly
00:46:18JdGordondoesnt a vp which gets hidden get cleared?
00:46:36JdGordonor is the area only cleared the next time a viewport is unhidden there?
00:47:29kugelclickable link?
00:47:39kugelnevermind, found it :P
00:48:40kugelJdGordon: the theme *worked* before your commit, the bug wasn't old (i.e. either you introduced it, or you changed something that lets it appear)
00:48:57JdGordonthe bug was always there...
00:49:30kugellet me repeat, the theme *worked* before
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00:50:10JdGordonthat doesnt mean the bug wasnt there before
00:50:44kugelwhich was the second part of my statement
00:51:22kugelbut "1) keep doing whatever you've been doing " didn't work around, apparently
00:53:58JdGordontrying to work out how to clear the AA if a conditional wants it removed
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00:56:02kugelyour commit message reads as every token is bound to a viewport ("a skin is a list of viewports, each viewport has a list of lines, each line is a list of sublines")which wasn't the case for AA before, and made the bug obvious (just guessing)
00:56:41JdGordonwell no, because the traversing the tokens didnt change
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00:59:01*JdGordon is a drongo...
00:59:14JdGordonusing the same conditional to hide a viewport, and using it inside the viewport obviously doesnt work!
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01:01:05JdGordonoh FFS!
01:01:16kugelbecause not evaluating conditionals in hidden viewports is bad; you said it's a design decision but never told me why it's done like that
01:02:15JdGordonbecause there is no way to know which draw and which dont
01:02:38JdGordonI have it clearing/displaying fine as long as you dont want anything else in the vp...
01:03:41JdGordon%?mh<%C|boo> doesnt work
01:03:57JdGordonis that really something people would do though?
01:04:37kugelI saw that quite a few times
01:07:31JdGordongot it :)
01:07:48kugelgrml, ok :)
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01:08:40JdGordonthere is a printf in there somewhere so you'll need to take it out for a real build :)
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01:09:26JdGordon is clean
01:09:34kugelstruct skin_albumart? does it allow easily for multiple album arts (if the buffering part is fixed)?
01:10:08JdGordonit doesnt make it any harder
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01:12:37JdGordonthere is a bit of cleanup work still needed, but that should be good for now
01:13:58kugelpatch is broken
01:14:14kugeldoesn't apply
01:15:09JdGordonwith svn or are you being a git?
01:15:22kugelpatch doesn't care
01:15:37kugelit lacks @@ on every hunk
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01:31:17kugelJdGordon: album art seems tow
01:32:12MG_Manwoah. holy crap.
01:32:16MG_ManI had no idea this was possible
01:32:22MG_ManA custom status bar in the menu?!
01:32:35kugelto other problems though (not sure if they're related). On azure ultimate, you sometimes see a grey overlay where the progressbar should be. and skipping is horribly delayed on UnhelpfulAA
01:33:14kugelMG_Man: yes
01:33:26rasherWe should be about to freeze, right?
01:33:33rasherOr already frozen..
01:33:37rasherI forget what the schedules is
01:33:46kugel9th, IIUC
01:34:36MG_ManMy question is why that's in WPSGallery instead of, since it's so new to make use of that
01:37:35MG_ManThere's tons of newer stuff in WPSGallery - shots with AA fonts too
01:37:41kugelthe wps doesn't have a statusbar file :/
01:37:57JdGordonkugel: the aa seems <what> now?
01:38:13kugelwork, sorry
01:38:33MG_Manso, that screenshot is fake?
01:41:29kugelno idea
01:41:39kugelit appears very old
01:41:50MG_ManFrom Feb 2008 it says
01:42:06MG_ManBut the theme file has a line for a list viewport
01:42:22kugelsome early versions of the custom ui vp patch didn't update the main menu properly, so that parts of the wps were shown (but that parts weren't being updated=)
01:43:05MG_ManSo it's taking advantage of a bug?
01:43:12MG_Man(That's been fixed?)
01:44:05pcc1simple patch to fix compilation in DEBUG mode:
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01:45:33kugelMG_Man: to the extent that those parts don't show up in the first place, yes
01:45:43kugelthere's no way to have a custom statusbar with SVN code
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01:46:33MG_ManI also see there's a progressbar slider patch
01:46:44MG_ManI'll have to make a version of my rockamp to make use of that, for those who have the patch
01:47:29TheSevenhuh, that's weird. backlight init locks up on nano2g, but only if it's booted through iloader. through ibugger, it works perfectly.
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01:49:47Unhelpfulkugel: pastebin treats a leading @@ as a highlight.
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01:52:31MG_ManAll I know about the nano2g port is what's on linux4nano
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01:53:54CathodeRayTubehello, anybody alive?
01:54:06MG_Manwe were all killed by nerve gas
01:55:03CathodeRayTubethats nice....anyway...are there any issues with installing larger HDDs in and ipod 5.5g?
01:55:33MG_Manwell, first it depends on if you don't break something in the process
01:56:08CathodeRayTubewill RB still work correctly if i put in a 240 gig HD...wich i think is the largest that is avaible that will fit..
01:56:53CathodeRayTubei belive the HDX upgrade kit i was looking at comes with the tools for taking it apart, that shouldnt be a problem
01:57:24MG_ManWell, I believe to use an HDD larger than 137GB you'll need to do some tinkering
01:57:34MG_Manbut it's doable
01:57:46CathodeRayTubedoes the ipod have that limit?
01:58:13Torneyes, you will need a build with spport for larger disks
01:58:38MG_ManIt's just simply using a modified version of rockbox
01:59:04TheSevencan anybody quickly tell me where the irqhandler() function is?
01:59:34CathodeRayTubehow easy is it to modify?or is there a version that somebody already prepared with large disk support?
01:59:52MG_Manthe latter
01:59:59MG_ManIt also depends on what type of hard drive
02:00:05MG_ManYou're getting a ZIF one right?
02:00:10CathodeRayTubeand is the limit in the ipods hardware or is it just a limit within RB?
02:00:34MG_ManYou'll need a ZIF to PATA adaptor that will fit inside the case
02:00:39CathodeRayTubeim not sure i havent looked at it for a while, il have to see...i think so if memory serves.
02:00:53MG_ManIt's a rockbox limit, but like was said ,there's a version that disables that
02:01:08MG_ManI'm not sure why it isn't official, but I bet it has something to do with increased RAM use or something
02:02:01saratogaTheSeven: in rockbox?
02:02:13CathodeRayTubei dont actually have the ipod yet, i was going to buy one with a hot HD on ebay or somthing specifically to mod and put RB on...i really wouldnt want to own a stock ipod..hence i dont..
02:02:22CathodeRayTubeshot HD*
02:02:35saratogaTheSeven: probably somewhere in firmware\target\arm\s5l8700
02:02:42MG_Manwell, first you need to be sure nothing else on it is broken
02:02:46TheSeveni thought that, too
02:02:58MG_Manbattery, screen, and hard drive are the only real easy things to replace
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02:03:04MG_Manbrb for dinner
02:03:53saratogaTheSeven: line 89
02:03:54TheSevenyep, just found it
02:04:10saratogatook me a while to fire up grep
02:05:49CathodeRayTubefound the HD im eyeing...may i drop the link in here?
02:11:16pcc1hm, rockbox fails to boot with DEBUG enabled (ipod 5g). known bug?
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02:17:48CathodeRayTube5.5g is the newest RB supports right? no 6g...
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02:27:43TheSevenwe have a way to execute code on a 6g, so a port is quite some time away, but it may come eventually
02:29:18CathodeRayTubehowbout the touch, anything in the oven for that?
02:29:50CathodeRayTubei thought i read that there was a big roadblock with both of them due to encrypted firmware or somthing..
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02:38:42TheSevenany linker script experts in here?
02:39:13TheSevenwhat is this LOAD_ADDR thing used for? is this where the code was loaded by the boot loader, or where the interrupt vectors should be copied?
02:39:31TheSeven(it looks like they don't get copied, or at least not into the right place)
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02:55:00CathodeRayTubei dont know much about what your talking about but i would assume its ment for loading some DiRectory?
02:55:26CathodeRayTubeA D somthing somthing directory..
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03:46:08TheSevengah, finally made that work
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04:36:59CIA-43New commit by jdgordon (r22646): rework AA load/display handling in the skins to get them working in viewports again
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05:16:24DylanJT3hey guys I want to put inawhisper theme on my iPod Nano 1stgen
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05:19:07DylanJT3hey is any1 here?
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05:20:12DylanJT3any1 here?
05:22:15advcomp2019DylanJT3, yea but i do not know the question
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05:29:08TheSevenrockbox HZ value is always 100?
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05:35:05TheSevenok, ticks working now on nano2
05:42:55TheSevenwhat do you think is the best way to fix that? the problem is that they remapped some interrupt numbers on the nano, but these are currently hardwired in common s5l8700 code :-/
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07:20:29webguest08No ipod classic releases?
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08:30:56robin0800JdGordon: Hate to have to say this but yes album art is now seen in the first screen flash but the underlying error is still there I think
08:32:50robin0800JdGordon: Just reseting settings just in case
08:37:50robin0800JdGordon: Still broke I'm afraid
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08:42:35homieloweOn second though maybe an android device.
08:42:48homieloweHTC dream or magic?
08:42:58*homielowe goes to research
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08:43:37homielowewoops wrong channel
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08:52:09JdGordonrobin0800: which theme/target?
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08:55:28kugelmy theme still works
08:55:54*JdGordon would like to cut down the number of times the images are redrawn
09:00:47kugelI really wonder about the grey overlay that draws into the progressbar area
09:02:21kugelthe azure ultimate theme shows this. it goes away when the subline times out for first time
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09:04:04kugelalways when entering the wps, or skipping a track
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09:05:11JdGordonfrom my playing with gdb it looks like it does a dozen updates before doing a full redraw which is very wierd
09:11:22robin0800JdGordon: "maximumart" Sansa C200 Theme Page
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09:12:58*JdGordon wishes /wps wouldnt open in
09:14:53JdGordonwow thats wierd
09:17:04JdGordonrobin0800: did you make that theme?
09:18:28JdGordonwell... for a start there is %C in the %?C line (line 7) so its doing what its supposed to...
09:18:44robin0800JdGordon: Yes all my own work or at least for the code
09:18:45JdGordonbut really.. the .wps is a mess
09:18:50JdGordonno offense :)
09:20:29robin0800JdGordon: not for whats it doing I thought it was quite easy to follow cold not find an easier way to achieve what I wanted
09:20:54*JdGordon is not handling the c200 keymap :p
09:21:06JdGordonwhats it supposed to do?
09:22:47JdGordonputting %C before %Cl is a bad idea...
09:23:01robin0800JdGordon: If album art is found it should dispay the first screen for 10 seconds an then the second screen for 10 seconds
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09:27:32JdGordonsorry, I cant help debug that wps in my (and its) current state.... add space and comments and fix up line 8 and i'll be happy to help
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09:31:00pcc1pamaury: hello
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09:31:32pamaurypcc1: hello
09:32:00pcc1I did some misc work on MTP earlier today, can you pull from my repo?
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09:32:48pamauryCurrently no, I'm not on my computer, I will do that in five minutes, just give me time to leave and boot
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09:33:00robin0800JdGordon: Whether it is right or wrong that wps has worked until last week so something has changed but will do as you suggest later today
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09:37:26webguestanyone know if rockbox works on an ipod thats a mishmash of 5 and 5.5 gen parts
09:37:49JdGordondepends on the mishmash
09:38:07webguestdoes that mean you would know if i told you
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09:38:31JdGordonwell we definetly wont know unless you do...
09:39:11webguestits a 5.5 chip and a 5 hdd
09:39:19webguesti think eerything else is irrelevant
09:39:25JdGordonshould work fine
09:39:52webguestthe rockbox installer cant find it on my computer eventhough my computer recognizes it
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09:40:06webguestthe manual installer doesnt find it either
09:40:30webguestits the F: so iono y it cant be found
09:40:40webguestunless its ha hardware issue
09:42:28pamaurypcc1: re. I'm still a newbie witrh git. How do I add your repo correctly as a remote ?
09:43:00pamaurypcc1: forgot my statement, I had put a wrong address
09:45:22pamaurypcc1: that's done, i've pulled your changes. This includes the dircache changes and a time fix, correct ?
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09:47:22pamauryYesterday I had no time to check this code works but my tests suggests that we can now correctly move within the filesystem. It's also possible to retrieve files but I've checked only on small files
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09:49:30Guest55344anyone used the installer with vista
09:49:42pcc1yes, directory browsing worked for me, but there was a recursion bug which I fixed. I didn't actually test file retrieval though
09:50:53pamauryWhat was the recursion bug ? I'm looking at your changes and it's actually nicer to have the start_data_* in list_files rather than in list_files2 but I can't see what it changes
09:51:18funmanGuest55344: yes, why ?
09:52:01CIA-43New commit by jdgordon (r22647): add a bit more debug info for skins... show the subimage id in the display image token's debug line
09:52:05pamaurypcc1: ahahah, why the hell did I put recursive && false :) Probably a debug thing
09:52:30pcc1pamaury: before, send_data_block would be called for every invocation of list_files2, which caused a crash
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09:53:00pamaurypcc1: you're right, it should have been in if(db) {
09:53:03Guest55344same issue then just not pm'd
09:53:22funmanGuest55344: is your ipod supported by rockbox ? which model is it ?
09:53:41Guest55344its a 5.5 chip with a 5 hdd
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09:54:01Guest55344it has the 5.5 software
09:54:45funmanare you connected as administrator?
09:54:59Guest55344i turned off uac
09:55:10gevaertsare you sure it's 6.6 and not 6?
09:55:45funmanI don't know if turning off uac automatically grants you administrator privileges, but rbutil for sure needs them (administrator privileges)
09:55:45Guest55344i have one ipod on 5 and one on 5.5 and this is definitely 5.5
09:56:27Guest55344it works fine other than not being able to find my ipod and it crashes when i try to autodetect
09:56:43Guest55344i ran it in compatability mode to no avail
09:57:29Guest55344i tried the ipod in disk mode also
09:58:00Guest55344and the manual install but ipodpatcher.exe cant find it either
09:58:22pcc1pamaury: to avoid duplication of work, this is what I plan to work on next:
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09:58:58CIA-43New commit by jdgordon (r22648): stupid yellow.... I'm going to bed
09:59:15Guest55344any ideas
09:59:37pcc1pamaury: modification of send_data_block to use send_split_data
09:59:58DerPapstGuest55344: have you in any kind messed with the firmware partition?
10:00:49Guest55344all i have done to the ipod is unzipped the 5.5 firmware into F:
10:00:55Guest55344which is my ipod
10:01:04pcc1pamaury: implementation of SendObjectInfo and SendObject
10:01:22DerPapstGuest55344: and the firmware still works?
10:01:53Guest55344my ipod still runs on the apple software if thats what you mean
10:02:00pcc1pamaury: eol
10:02:02Guest55344this is the first install
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10:02:53funmanGuest55344: you can try manual install as described on
10:03:17Guest55344i tried that already
10:03:36Guest55344the installer still cannot find my ipod
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10:04:01DerPapstok. should work then. either there is a problem with the user rights, the partitiontable or the firmwarepartition are modified in a way that ipodpatcher doesn't like or maybe there is another USB device interferring with your ipod.
10:04:08DerPapsti'm out of ideas
10:04:20gevaertsrbutil has a system info option somewhere
10:04:51Guest55344i cant see how there would be user rights issues with uac off
10:04:59pamaurypcc1: eol ?
10:05:05pcc1end of list
10:05:21Guest55344all i can think of is if the installer doesnt like the combination of the 5.5 chip with an old hdd
10:05:39Guest55344but it was restored so i dont see how that could cause a problem either
10:05:50gevaertsGuest55344: run rbutil, go to About->System Info, and paste the contents of that to
10:06:02DerPapstincase of the modified partitiontable or firmwarepartition a restore with itunes might help but that would make you lose all files.
10:06:45pamaurypcc1: I don't know on what I will work now. Probably implementing object properties
10:06:47Guest55344its already a blank ipod i restored it today because i just reassembled the parts
10:06:55DerPapstah ok
10:06:59Guest55344i dont know what is
10:07:06gevaertsit's a pastebin site
10:08:05pcc1pamaury: one thing needs to be done at some point: adding the creation date fields to dircache_entry
10:08:08gevaertsyes, a website
10:08:12Guest55344mk ill do that
10:08:46pamaurypcc1: ah yes, I could do that. I would need some time to dig into the code but I will lokk at it
10:09:24Guest55344will you be able to see this
10:09:29Guest55344i did it
10:09:39gevaertsok, now tell us the URL you got
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10:10:06Guest55344F is the ipod
10:10:16pcc1pamaury: I'm going now but I'll probably be on later
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10:10:27gevaertsis it plugged in over USB?
10:11:07pamaurypcc1: Not sure I will be online this afternoon.
10:11:36gevaertshm, the "Attached USB devices
10:11:44gevaerts" list is empty. It really shouldn't be
10:11:53kugelpamaury: can one see your progress anywhere?
10:11:56Guest55344well its removable storage
10:12:00Guest55344im not sure
10:12:15Guest55344its definitely not connected by sata
10:13:03Guest55344nor firewire
10:13:14Guest55344its the normal ipod cable
10:14:08pamaurykugel: godeater/rockbox">, branch mtp
10:14:24*gevaerts has no idea
10:14:35kugelpage doesn't exist (?)
10:14:40Guest55344yea im stumped too
10:14:58kugelah, xchat put the "," into the url
10:15:52DerPapstGuest55344: are any other usb devices connected?
10:16:15Guest55344wireless keyboard and mouse
10:16:32Guest55344and im working from a laptop connected to a hub
10:16:42Guest55344the ipod is connected to the hub
10:16:49Guest55344but thats it
10:16:58DerPapstcan you connect it directly to the laptop?
10:17:28Guest55344its worth a try
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10:18:40Guest55344it still gives a no ipod detected error when i try to install
10:18:53Guest55344but itunes still finds it
10:19:33DerPapstand the list is still empty i guess?
10:19:45Guest55344which list
10:19:53DerPapstrbutils list
10:20:05DerPapstAbout->System Info
10:20:39Guest55344yep same as before
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10:21:34DerPapstmy last suggestion: try it again with another system. otherwise i'm out of ideas
10:21:45Guest55344yea im not sure
10:21:51Guest55344ill try that i guess
10:21:53DerPapstat least your usb mouse and keyboard should be in that list
10:22:00Guest55344thanks for your help
10:22:03Guest55344thats true
10:22:31Guest55344i think it might be an issue with vista sp2 and the installer
10:22:36kugelpamaury: a bit OT: Do you merge master into mtp, or rebase mtp? (the network graphic looks a bit weird)
10:22:39Guest55344but thats a wild guess
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10:23:29pamaurykugel: I don't know, I'm a git newbi so perhaps I did something weird
10:24:34Guest55344auto detect works now
10:24:56Guest55344and it finds the correct hardware
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10:25:03Guest55344but still no installationg
10:25:31pamaurykugel: is it a problem if I did so ?
10:25:54kugelif you merge, you get a merge commit which is rather noisly (and you lose the history of master within mtp). if you rebase, it appears that the mtp commits are on top of all master commits, so rebase is recommended (for git-svn repos anyway)
10:26:49pamaurykugel: what is rebase ?
10:26:54kugelyou're not really wanting to merge (join to branches into a single one), but just "sync" your branch to master, which is what rebase was made for
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10:27:46kugelgit help rebase :) just try out "git rebase mtp master" (you can even abort a rebase in case of conflicts)
10:27:48pamauryok, so if I want to sync mtp with master, what should I do ? git rebase ?? ??
10:27:56Guest55344wow, i even tried installing the installer on the ipod itself and the program runs but still cant find itself
10:29:04DerPapstiirc that wouldn't work because the ipod has to be unmounted in order install the bootloader
10:29:49Guest55344after some fiddling
10:30:04Guest55344i got the rockbox firmware to install
10:30:12Guest55344but i still cant install the bootloader
10:30:18Guest55344so its kind of useless
10:32:05DerPapstodd indeed. last help would be the very old installation process but i guess neither the instructions nor the tools are still online ^.^
10:32:22pamaurykugel: when I'm on master branch, git status says "Your branch and 'origin/master' have diverged, and have 17 and 8 different commit(s) each, respectively.", what does it mean ?
10:33:04kugelthat happens if you do git svn rebase.
10:33:22Guest55344i might try installing an older version of the ipod software
10:33:39Guest55344maybe the software is too new and the utility cant find the bootfile
10:34:11DerPapstthe ipods firmware version shouldn't matter. but worth a try anyway.
10:34:48kugelyou rebase your local repo. the origin is rebased too, but if you don't do git fetch to re-read the info from origin, your local repo doesn't see that the remote is also updated (hence it thinks you're aheard). that's nothing to really worry about
10:37:10pamauryI've done a git fetch to see but it continues to display this message. Is it normal ?
10:37:55Guest55344do you know if the default software is stored in flash or on the hdd
10:38:04Guest55344i would assume flash
10:38:31Guest55344but if it was the hdd then it could be installing a version not compatable with the chip
10:38:52kugelpamaury: which branch are you on?
10:38:52DerPapsthdd and flash. the firmware you use is stored on the hdd and the backup system is stored on flash rom
10:39:08pamaurykugel: on master
10:39:10kugelthe message normally wents away after git fetch && git svn rebase
10:39:18Guest55344i just restored again
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10:39:28Guest55344since it cant hurt anything
10:39:36kugeldo you have git commits in master?
10:39:38Guest55344and im debating wheteher to update the software as well
10:40:30pamaurykugel: normally no
10:41:55pamaurykugel: I've done git fetch & git svn rebase on master but it fails at some point in usb_mtp.[ch] . I think I've done something wrong on master
10:42:10kugelit looks like
10:43:01pamaurykugel: but I've not modified anything in master afaik.
10:43:24kugelmaster really should be clean (only contain svn commits). you should be able to fix that though
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10:43:43pamaurykugel: what should I do ?
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10:44:02kugel(getting a bit too ot here)
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10:46:02Guest55344do you know if there is an alternate bootloader to the rockbox one
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10:49:58DerPapstthe ipodlinux one but that requires the same installation procedure. so not really a help
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10:53:18Guest55344it might just be an issue with this specific utility
10:53:43Guest55344the problem with the ipodlinux one is that is down right now
10:55:12DerPapstwell i have a backup but you'd still require ipodpatcher to install it.
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10:55:53Guest55344that still doesnt work
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15:56:31robin0800JdGordon: maximumart wps text cleaned and commented no functional change
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18:55:56robin0800JdGordon: did you see my pastebin?
18:56:09JdGordonjust looking now
18:56:31JdGordonyou still have the %Cl after %C
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18:56:40JdGordonand %C outside of the aa viewport
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19:05:28JdGordonrobin0800: also, you should tihnk about sharing some viewport labels if you can... makes it much easier to rea
19:06:01*JdGordon has been thinking about being able to give viewports and images proper labels instead of single letters...
19:09:48robin0800JdGordon: custom wps says %C can be anywhere and recommends end but don't think that matters with viewports
19:10:02JdGordonit does
19:10:08JdGordonI need to fix that
19:10:19JdGordonit now depends on the viewport its in
19:11:26*kugel wonders if anyone tried statusbar = button and buttonbar
19:12:20kugel%C never needed to be in the vp it's displayed AFAIK
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19:13:20kugelneither normal images :/
19:13:49JdGordon%C was changed to require the viewport
19:13:55JdGordonnormal images always did
19:14:14kugelare you sure?
19:14:56JdGordonimages can be drawn in any viewport (you can put the same one on more than once even) but the offsets in the %xl line are viewport relative
19:15:21pixelmahuh? they are positioned relative to the viewport - you could place them in the default viewport but that's a different thing
19:16:22kugelyes, I know the coordinates are viewport-relative. That was the case with album art also
19:16:25pixelmae.g. I use one bitmap strip in my WPS that I use in different places on the screen - in different viewports (and it's taking only one ID)
19:17:12JdGordonkugel: that was never the case for AA (on purpose).... it just happened that it was drawn where the %C tag went, o it could be anywhere
19:17:31JdGordonpixelma: oh that still works? good... just looking at the parser and i was worried i broke that :p
19:18:03pixelmawell haven't updated since r22608 or something close
19:18:27JdGordonit would have broken at the start of the recent work
19:19:17pixelmabtw. the %C is positioned relative to the viewport to for me (preloaded at the top left corner but it's not in the top left corner of the screen
19:19:46JdGordonyes, but by accident though
19:19:54JdGordonit is now formally doing that
19:21:12pixelmaI should really try and update (didn't have much time during the weekend)
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19:23:00pixelmaJdGordon: and also I use %?mh<%C|something else> ;)
19:23:26JdGordonwierdo :D
19:23:46JdGordonthats no aa if the hold is on?
19:24:34JdGordonok, that would acually be good for batt life
19:24:59JdGordonthe engine is a bit stupid for images, they are redrawn every pass... so a few times a second :(
19:25:00saratogakugel: whats the install process on the YH players like? just drop a .mi4 file?
19:26:16kugelrename the OF file to OF.mi4 if dual boot is wanted (which I can't imagine since only the samsung bootlodaer has usb anyway), drop the bootloader file into /system, extract
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19:26:53pixelmaerr... AA if hold is on - something else if it's not
19:27:14robin0800JdGordon: Changed still not working
19:28:00JdGordon%?C<%C%t10%Vda%Vdc%Vdl%Vdm%Vdn%Vdv%Vdo%Vdp%Vdq%Vdr%Vds%Vdt|%t5%Vdu%Vdc%Vdl%Vdm%Vdn%Vdv%Vdo%Vdp%Vdq%Vdr%Vds%Vdt>;%t10%Vdb%Vdd%Vde%Vdf%Vdg%Vdh%Vdi%Vdj%Vdk is now in the 'a' viewport which is disaled by default....
19:28:08saratogakugel: you should really post that on the wiki
19:28:32kugelI will
19:28:32JdGordonthe %?C there is fine... its the other %C which is bad
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19:28:54saratogaalso why the hell are people in New Ports recommending rbutil to install the YH players
19:28:56JdGordon%Cl *doesnt* need to be in the viewport
19:29:02saratogasurely our own people realize thats not going to work . . .
19:29:09JdGordonpeople are stupid...
19:33:15pixelmaAlexP: why did you move that thread? From his description it sounds like it *is* a WPS issue, he just didn't state which WPS he uses. The normal statusbar doesn't show "Vol:" and doesn't show the battery level in 4 segments
19:33:33pixelmaunfortunately he didn't tell exactly when he sees that
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19:34:36pixelmathe battery icon in the standard statusbar is also not in the top right but to the left
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19:35:01AlexPpixelma: Ah, I assumed in was in the statusbar (I never have it on and didn't check)
19:35:16AlexPpixelma: I'll put it back
19:36:07AlexPthere :)
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19:37:16pixelmathanks... no I'm supposed to answer, I guess...
19:38:42n1sdoes anyone have a working recorder and care to test fs#10569 ? any recorder will do afaict since they use the same rtc
19:39:04robin0800JdGordon: %?C<%C%...... this is not allowed right?
19:39:05n1s(any recorder == recorder || recorderv2 || fmrecorder)
19:39:21JdGordonrobin0800: that is allowed... but its not what you want
19:39:51robin0800JdGordon: yes I do?
19:40:07bertrikI think I found another small bug in the c200 keymap
19:40:20JdGordon%Vda is all you need, then put %C inside the 'a' viewport
19:40:49CIA-43New commit by kugel (r22652): Set list_need_reinit to false somewhere too.
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19:47:46robin0800JdGordon: This must be wrong it is blank
19:48:16JdGordonmove the %?C line out into the main viewport
19:48:21JdGordonunder %wd
19:49:16kugelRob2223: %?C<%t10%Vda%Vdc%Vdl%Vdm%Vdn%Vdv%Vdo%Vdp%Vdq%Vdr%Vds%Vdt|%t5%Vdu%Vdc%Vdl%Vdm%Vdn%Vdv%Vdo%Vdp%Vdq%Vdr%Vds%Vdt>;%t10%Vdb%Vdd%Vde%Vdf%Vdg%Vdh%Vdi%Vdj%Vdk
19:49:16kugel tis line must be in the default viewport
19:49:38kugel%Vd* has to be before the corresponding %Vl* definition
19:49:41JdGordonrobin0800: 3 digit months?! cool!
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19:50:03kugelrobin0800: ^
19:50:19JdGordonkugel: it doesnt... but it cant be inside a disabled viewport if you want it to work
19:50:44kugelwell, not the default viewport, but still before the %Vl
19:51:00kugelthat's written somwhere
19:51:56robin0800JdGordon: Its not blank any more but still flashes first screen
19:53:45JdGordonkugel: thats wrong then.... there is nothing against putting %Vda before %Vl|a| *as long as* the viewport eventually exsists
19:53:50JdGordonunlike images :/
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19:55:12JdGordonthats wrong, but I'll leave it because its good practice to do that anyway
19:56:01pixelmaI'm quite sure you said that this order is important in the beginning
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19:57:27robin0800JdGordon: thats exactly what used to work and is broken? now
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19:58:11JdGordonpixelma: yeah, probably :) but now its not (for viewports)
19:58:27JdGordonit would have been from the start because of how the parser set things up
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19:58:38JdGordonsimpler parser means simpler rules
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20:00:20kugeldamnit, I was sure it was in the log
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20:20:58TheSevenwhat would be the next steps for the nano2 port? as i've seen, there isn't even an for s5l8700 yet, so i'm currently abusing a bootloader build to test things...
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20:22:55kugelTheSeven: that's because the other ports for that SoC never got behind the "I need a FTL" stage
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20:24:08TheSevenwell, i also still need a FTL, but i have some hack allowing me to read at least... (not that i'd dare to call that proper code)
20:34:08n1swhen the bootloader acn read the flash, the next step is usually to set up a real rockbox build that the bootlaoder can load
20:35:27TheSevenn1s: that's actually what i'm trying to do
20:35:52TheSevenbut i'm not using a rockbox bootloader for it, so rockbox won't be able to read the flash
20:35:57n1si'd say you're on the rght path then :)
20:36:35n1sare you using a different loader?
20:36:58TheSeveni hacked one together from scratch yesterday
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20:37:44n1sah, btw what should i do if i wanted to try to get the exploit running on my 4g nano?
20:37:57TheSevenhelp bruteforcing it...
20:38:25TheSevenwe have a buffer overflow exploit, we just need to find out where our buffer is in order to jump to it
20:40:25TheSevenand another question (already mentioned this yesterday): what should i do about the remapped interrupts on the 8701? this is currently conflicting with shared 8700 code
20:40:40n1sis there anyone working on it, and is it just a matter of trying to jump to every possible adress? :S
20:41:17TheSevenin fact, we have built little robots to do this
20:41:38n1sno kidding?
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20:44:30TheSeventhis thing just presses the ipod's buttons to constantly reboot it all day, putting a new file on it every time
20:45:28TheSevencan i just fork off a ipodnano2 version of kernel-s5l8700.c, and if yes, how?
20:47:16saratogaTheSeven: you probably want to add your FTL to rockbox so that you can use it from rockbox
20:47:34saratogaunless you've already done that and I misunderstood your above remark
20:47:35Lssgreat way to use lego
20:47:36TheSevenyou won't want that code in there
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20:47:43TheSeventhis seriously needs to be rewritten
20:47:55saratogawell if you feel like cleaning it up, you could submit a patch
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20:48:05saratogawithout an FTL you won't be able to do anything with rockbox I think
20:48:18saratogaunless you could avoid touching the disk at all after the bootloader stage somehow
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20:49:34TheSevenwell, the code I currently have works, but it's just a mess, as I've just written it along while trying to understand things, and misinterpreted (and therefore misnamed) some things etc.
20:50:01TheSevennot commented at all, hardcoded values all over the place instead of constants, ..., you know :-)
20:50:11kugelJdGordon: this is the grey overlay I'm constantly talking about
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20:50:20n1sTheSeven: i'm lacking robot materials so i'll leave that to you guys, how long has this thing been working?
20:50:39TheSevenwe're still working on making them work reliably
20:50:43kugelI managed to get a dump with my statusbar patch since it doesn't go away so fast (no subline in the statusbar).
20:50:48*bertrik has a data abort on his c200 where the Data abort text starts only slightly left of the middle
20:50:58kugelI get this with SVN too, and also with the non-statusbar version of azure ultimate
20:51:00TheSevensaratoga: do you have any idea what to do about that kernel-s5l8700.c vs. remapped interrupt numbers problem?
20:51:29JdGordonkugel: ?
20:52:04fmlHello. In the recent commit to plasma.c, wouldn't it be better to define a semantic symbol (e.g. USE_PAL256) and then check for that? Instead of repeating a complex condition many times?
20:52:11bertrikTheSeven, I think we should have a couple defines for the s5l8700 timer assignment to make it more flexible, some targets have dedicated functions for a specific timer
20:52:26fmlkkurbjun: ping
20:52:57bertriklike backlight PWM or piezo driving
20:53:19TheSevenbertrik: the problem here is that they moved the interrupts themselves around. so a timer B int is detected by rockbox as a timer A one, making it retrigger, etc.
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20:54:35TheSevenand this stuff seems to be all hardcoded in kernel-s5l8700.c, which is shared with the meizus
20:55:19TheSevenbertrik: have you already played around with the timers on the other s5l8700 targets? would be nice if the ints were the same and only the preliminary datasheet would be off
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20:57:44domonokyif they are really different, i think we should make it use macros/defines instead of hardcoding, and move the defines into a kernel-target.h deeper in the target tree.
20:58:37bertrikTheSeven, the timers seem to work as indicated in the data sheet, the incorrect things were the pin assignment of the timers and the number of timers
20:58:44HillshumTheSeven: Have you thought about wiring the buttons directly rather than using the robot to push them?
20:59:20bertrikanother thing that seemed weird though is the exact clock used for the timers, still not sure if its HCLK or PCLK
20:59:39TheSevenHillshum: our aim with this was to allow people who don't want to open their ipod to help (if they have a mindstorms set lying around, which quite a lot of them seem to have)
20:59:54bertrikthis could also be a problem with the low-level HCLK/PCLK setup though
21:00:34TheSevenbertrik: it looks like HCLK = PCLK on the ipod, both at 100MHz (at the point where my bootloader gets control)
21:02:20TheSeveni re-enabled the rockbox clock setup code yesterday and had a firing rate increase by factor 2 on timer b
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21:12:01kugelthe first half is grey instead of blue'ish
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21:53:50user__hi guys
21:53:58user__one silly question
21:54:18user__is rockbox based on GPL?
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21:54:52user__or it has its own licence?
21:55:27user__thanks guys
21:55:31bluebrotherRockbox is licensed under the GPL. It can't be based on a license, as it is software ...
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23:52:20CIA-43New commit by kugel (r22657): Fix viewport_set_defaults giving the wrong dimensions if the ui vp is overridden (as done in plugins atm), and notify other code if the ui vp was ...
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