#rockbox 2009-09-07

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#rockbox log for 2009-09-07

00:02:26	JdGordon	crikey the %C handling is wierd
00:03:08	JdGordon	apparently i was wrong about how it works
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00:32:23	JdGordon	ARG!
00:33:59	kugel	JdGordon: Why the violence?
00:34:11	JdGordon	which in particular?
00:35:56	*	JdGordon has AA in a viewport working again
00:36:32	JdGordon	it wasnt my bug though!
00:39:49	JdGordon	sort of
00:39:51	JdGordon	....
00:44:22	kugel	"JdGordon punches kugel in the nose!"
00:44:51	JdGordon	dont expect bugs fixed if you 1) dont put them on FS and 2) report them to me on a friday :/
00:44:59	kugel	:)
00:45:45	kugel	nice to hear it works again, where was the bug?
00:46:07	JdGordon	read the forum thread.... bassically the AA was always done very wierdly
00:46:18	JdGordon	doesnt a vp which gets hidden get cleared?
00:46:36	JdGordon	or is the area only cleared the next time a viewport is unhidden there?
00:47:29	kugel	clickable link?
00:47:39	kugel	nevermind, found it :P
00:48:40	kugel	JdGordon: the theme worked before your commit, the bug wasn't old (i.e. either you introduced it, or you changed something that lets it appear)
00:48:57	JdGordon	the bug was always there...
00:49:30	kugel	let me repeat, the theme worked before
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00:50:10	JdGordon	that doesnt mean the bug wasnt there before
00:50:44	kugel	which was the second part of my statement
00:51:22	kugel	but "1) keep doing whatever you've been doing " didn't work around, apparently
00:53:58	JdGordon	trying to work out how to clear the AA if a conditional wants it removed
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00:56:02	kugel	your commit message reads as every token is bound to a viewport ("a skin is a list of viewports, each viewport has a list of lines, each line is a list of sublines")which wasn't the case for AA before, and made the bug obvious (just guessing)
00:56:41	JdGordon	well no, because the traversing the tokens didnt change
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00:59:01	*	JdGordon is a drongo...
00:59:14	JdGordon	using the same conditional to hide a viewport, and using it inside the viewport obviously doesnt work!
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01:01:05	JdGordon	oh FFS!
01:01:16	kugel	because not evaluating conditionals in hidden viewports is bad; you said it's a design decision but never told me why it's done like that
01:02:15	JdGordon	because there is no way to know which draw and which dont
01:02:38	JdGordon	I have it clearing/displaying fine as long as you dont want anything else in the vp...
01:02:59	kugel	:?
01:03:27	JdGordon	aa
01:03:41	JdGordon	%?mh<%C\|boo> doesnt work
01:03:57	JdGordon	is that really something people would do though?
01:04:37	kugel	I saw that quite a few times
01:07:31	JdGordon	got it :)
01:07:41	JdGordon	test?
01:07:48	kugel	grml, ok :)
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01:08:19	JdGordon	http://pastebin.com/m3887ccf0
01:08:40	JdGordon	there is a printf in there somewhere so you'll need to take it out for a real build :)
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01:09:26	JdGordon	http://pastebin.com/m73baef7d is clean
01:09:34	kugel	struct skin_albumart? does it allow easily for multiple album arts (if the buffering part is fixed)?
01:10:08	JdGordon	it doesnt make it any harder
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01:12:37	JdGordon	there is a bit of cleanup work still needed, but that should be good for now
01:13:58	kugel	patch is broken
01:14:14	kugel	doesn't apply
01:15:09	JdGordon	with svn or are you being a git?
01:15:22	kugel	patch doesn't care
01:15:37	kugel	it lacks @@ on every hunk
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01:31:17	kugel	JdGordon: album art seems tow
01:31:20	kugel	now*
01:32:12	MG_Man	woah. holy crap.
01:32:16	MG_Man	I had no idea this was possible
01:32:17	MG_Man	http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/WpsIpod5g/Menuv11.jpg
01:32:22	MG_Man	A custom status bar in the menu?!
01:32:35	kugel	to other problems though (not sure if they're related). On azure ultimate, you sometimes see a grey overlay where the progressbar should be. and skipping is horribly delayed on UnhelpfulAA
01:33:14	kugel	MG_Man: yes
01:33:26	rasher	We should be about to freeze, right?
01:33:33	rasher	Or already frozen..
01:33:35	kugel	http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10566
01:33:37	rasher	I forget what the schedules is
01:33:46	kugel	9th, IIUC
01:34:36	MG_Man	My question is why that's in WPSGallery instead of themes.rockbox.org, since it's so new to make use of that
01:37:35	MG_Man	There's tons of newer stuff in WPSGallery - shots with AA fonts too
01:37:41	kugel	the wps doesn't have a statusbar file :/
01:37:48	kugel	s/wps/theme
01:37:57	JdGordon	kugel: the aa seems <what> now?
01:38:13	kugel	work, sorry
01:38:33	MG_Man	so, that screenshot is fake?
01:41:29	kugel	no idea
01:41:39	kugel	it appears very old
01:41:50	MG_Man	From Feb 2008 it says
01:42:06	MG_Man	But the theme file has a line for a list viewport
01:42:22	kugel	some early versions of the custom ui vp patch didn't update the main menu properly, so that parts of the wps were shown (but that parts weren't being updated=)
01:43:05	MG_Man	So it's taking advantage of a bug?
01:43:12	MG_Man	(That's been fixed?)
01:44:05	pcc1	simple patch to fix compilation in DEBUG mode: http://www.pcc.me.uk/~peter/tmp/0001-Fixed-compilation-in-DEBUG-mode.patch
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01:45:33	kugel	MG_Man: to the extent that those parts don't show up in the first place, yes
01:45:43	kugel	there's no way to have a custom statusbar with SVN code
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01:46:33	MG_Man	I also see there's a progressbar slider patch
01:46:44	MG_Man	I'll have to make a version of my rockamp to make use of that, for those who have the patch
01:47:29	TheSeven	huh, that's weird. backlight init locks up on nano2g, but only if it's booted through iloader. through ibugger, it works perfectly.
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01:49:47	Unhelpful	kugel: pastebin treats a leading @@ as a highlight.
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01:52:31	MG_Man	All I know about the nano2g port is what's on linux4nano
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01:53:54	CathodeRayTube	hello, anybody alive?
01:53:59	MG_Man	no
01:54:06	MG_Man	we were all killed by nerve gas
01:55:03	CathodeRayTube	thats nice....anyway...are there any issues with installing larger HDDs in and ipod 5.5g?
01:55:33	MG_Man	well, first it depends on if you don't break something in the process
01:55:35	MG_Man	:P
01:56:08	CathodeRayTube	will RB still work correctly if i put in a 240 gig HD...wich i think is the largest that is avaible that will fit..
01:56:53	CathodeRayTube	i belive the HDX upgrade kit i was looking at comes with the tools for taking it apart, that shouldnt be a problem
01:56:58	CathodeRayTube	HD*
01:57:24	MG_Man	Well, I believe to use an HDD larger than 137GB you'll need to do some tinkering
01:57:34	MG_Man	but it's doable
01:57:46	CathodeRayTube	does the ipod have that limit?
01:58:13	Torne	yes, you will need a build with spport for larger disks
01:58:38	MG_Man	It's just simply using a modified version of rockbox
01:59:04	TheSeven	can anybody quickly tell me where the irqhandler() function is?
01:59:34	CathodeRayTube	how easy is it to modify?or is there a version that somebody already prepared with large disk support?
01:59:52	MG_Man	the latter
01:59:59	MG_Man	It also depends on what type of hard drive
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02:00:05	MG_Man	You're getting a ZIF one right?
02:00:10	CathodeRayTube	and is the limit in the ipods hardware or is it just a limit within RB?
02:00:34	MG_Man	You'll need a ZIF to PATA adaptor that will fit inside the case
02:00:39	CathodeRayTube	im not sure i havent looked at it for a while, il have to see...i think so if memory serves.
02:00:53	MG_Man	It's a rockbox limit, but like was said ,there's a version that disables that
02:01:08	MG_Man	I'm not sure why it isn't official, but I bet it has something to do with increased RAM use or something
02:02:01	saratoga	TheSeven: in rockbox?
02:02:12	TheSeven	yes
02:02:13	CathodeRayTube	i dont actually have the ipod yet, i was going to buy one with a hot HD on ebay or somthing specifically to mod and put RB on...i really wouldnt want to own a stock ipod..hence i dont..
02:02:22	CathodeRayTube	shot HD*
02:02:35	saratoga	TheSeven: probably somewhere in firmware\target\arm\s5l8700
02:02:42	MG_Man	well, first you need to be sure nothing else on it is broken
02:02:46	TheSeven	i thought that, too
02:02:58	MG_Man	battery, screen, and hard drive are the only real easy things to replace
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02:03:04	MG_Man	brb for dinner
02:03:37	saratoga	system-s5l8700.c
02:03:53	saratoga	TheSeven: line 89
02:03:54	TheSeven	yep, just found it
02:04:10	saratoga	took me a while to fire up grep
02:05:49	CathodeRayTube	found the HD im eyeing...may i drop the link in here?
02:11:16	pcc1	hm, rockbox fails to boot with DEBUG enabled (ipod 5g). known bug?
02:11:33	CathodeRayTube	http://www.rapidrepair.com/shop/3119-hard-drive-disk-mk2431gah.html
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02:17:48	CathodeRayTube	5.5g is the newest RB supports right? no 6g...
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02:27:43	TheSeven	we have a way to execute code on a 6g, so a port is quite some time away, but it may come eventually
02:29:18	CathodeRayTube	howbout the touch, anything in the oven for that?
02:29:50	CathodeRayTube	i thought i read that there was a big roadblock with both of them due to encrypted firmware or somthing..
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02:38:42	TheSeven	any linker script experts in here?
02:39:13	TheSeven	what is this LOAD_ADDR thing used for? is this where the code was loaded by the boot loader, or where the interrupt vectors should be copied?
02:39:31	TheSeven	(it looks like they don't get copied, or at least not into the right place)
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02:55:00	CathodeRayTube	i dont know much about what your talking about but i would assume its ment for loading some DiRectory?
02:55:26	CathodeRayTube	A D somthing somthing directory..
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03:46:08	TheSeven	gah, finally made that work
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04:36:59	CIA-43	New commit by jdgordon (r22646): rework AA load/display handling in the skins to get them working in viewports again
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05:16:24	DylanJT3	hey guys I want to put inawhisper theme on my iPod Nano 1stgen
05:16:28	DylanJT3	suggestions?
05:17:08	DylanJT3	hello?
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05:19:07	DylanJT3	hey is any1 here?
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05:20:12	DylanJT3	any1 here?
05:22:15	advcomp2019	DylanJT3, yea but i do not know the question
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05:29:08	TheSeven	rockbox HZ value is always 100?
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05:35:05	TheSeven	ok, ticks working now on nano2
05:42:55	TheSeven	what do you think is the best way to fix that? the problem is that they remapped some interrupt numbers on the nano, but these are currently hardwired in common s5l8700 code :-/
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07:20:29	webguest08	No ipod classic releases?
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08:30:56	robin0800	JdGordon: Hate to have to say this but yes album art is now seen in the first screen flash but the underlying error is still there I think
08:31:12	JdGordon	bah
08:32:50	robin0800	JdGordon: Just reseting settings just in case
08:37:50	robin0800	JdGordon: Still broke I'm afraid
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08:42:35	homielowe	On second though maybe an android device.
08:42:48	homielowe	HTC dream or magic?
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08:43:37	homielowe	woops wrong channel
08:43:39	homielowe	sorry
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08:55:28	kugel	my theme still works
08:55:54	*	JdGordon would like to cut down the number of times the images are redrawn
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09:00:47	kugel	I really wonder about the grey overlay that draws into the progressbar area
09:01:10	JdGordon	?
09:02:21	kugel	the azure ultimate theme shows this. it goes away when the subline times out for first time
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09:04:04	kugel	always when entering the wps, or skipping a track
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09:05:11	JdGordon	from my playing with gdb it looks like it does a dozen updates before doing a full redraw which is very wierd
09:11:22	robin0800	JdGordon: "maximumart" Sansa C200 Theme Page
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09:12:58	*	JdGordon wishes /wps wouldnt open in oo.org
09:14:53	JdGordon	wow thats wierd
09:17:04	JdGordon	robin0800: did you make that theme?
09:18:28	JdGordon	well... for a start there is %C in the %?C line (line 7) so its doing what its supposed to...
09:18:44	robin0800	JdGordon: Yes all my own work or at least for the code
09:18:45	JdGordon	but really.. the .wps is a mess
09:18:50	JdGordon	no offense :)
09:20:29	robin0800	JdGordon: not for whats it doing I thought it was quite easy to follow cold not find an easier way to achieve what I wanted
09:20:54	*	JdGordon is not handling the c200 keymap :p
09:21:06	JdGordon	whats it supposed to do?
09:22:47	JdGordon	putting %C before %Cl is a bad idea...
09:23:01	robin0800	JdGordon: If album art is found it should dispay the first screen for 10 seconds an then the second screen for 10 seconds
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09:27:32	JdGordon	sorry, I cant help debug that wps in my (and its) current state.... add space and comments and fix up line 8 and i'll be happy to help
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09:31:00	pcc1	pamaury: hello
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09:31:32	pamaury	pcc1: hello
09:32:00	pcc1	I did some misc work on MTP earlier today, can you pull from my repo?
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09:32:48	pamaury	Currently no, I'm not on my computer, I will do that in five minutes, just give me time to leave and boot
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09:33:00	robin0800	JdGordon: Whether it is right or wrong that wps has worked until last week so something has changed but will do as you suggest later today
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09:37:26	webguest	anyone know if rockbox works on an ipod thats a mishmash of 5 and 5.5 gen parts
09:37:49	JdGordon	depends on the mishmash
09:38:07	webguest	does that mean you would know if i told you
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09:38:31	JdGordon	well we definetly wont know unless you do...
09:39:11	webguest	its a 5.5 chip and a 5 hdd
09:39:19	webguest	i think eerything else is irrelevant
09:39:25	JdGordon	should work fine
09:39:52	webguest	the rockbox installer cant find it on my computer eventhough my computer recognizes it
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09:40:06	webguest	the manual installer doesnt find it either
09:40:30	webguest	its the F: so iono y it cant be found
09:40:40	webguest	unless its ha hardware issue
09:42:28	pamaury	pcc1: re. I'm still a newbie witrh git. How do I add your repo correctly as a remote ?
09:43:00	pamaury	pcc1: forgot my statement, I had put a wrong address
09:45:22	pamaury	pcc1: that's done, i've pulled your changes. This includes the dircache changes and a time fix, correct ?
09:46:08	pcc1	yes
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09:47:22	pamaury	Yesterday I had no time to check this code works but my tests suggests that we can now correctly move within the filesystem. It's also possible to retrieve files but I've checked only on small files
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09:49:30	Guest55344	anyone used the installer with vista
09:49:42	pcc1	yes, directory browsing worked for me, but there was a recursion bug which I fixed. I didn't actually test file retrieval though
09:50:53	pamaury	What was the recursion bug ? I'm looking at your changes and it's actually nicer to have the start_data_* in list_files rather than in list_files2 but I can't see what it changes
09:51:18	funman	Guest55344: yes, why ?
09:52:01	CIA-43	New commit by jdgordon (r22647): add a bit more debug info for skins... show the subimage id in the display image token's debug line
09:52:05	pamaury	pcc1: ahahah, why the hell did I put recursive && false :) Probably a debug thing
09:52:29	Guest55344	mk
09:52:30	pcc1	pamaury: before, send_data_block would be called for every invocation of list_files2, which caused a crash
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09:53:00	pamaury	pcc1: you're right, it should have been in if(db) {
09:53:03	Guest55344	same issue then just not pm'd
09:53:22	funman	Guest55344: is your ipod supported by rockbox ? which model is it ?
09:53:41	Guest55344	its a 5.5 chip with a 5 hdd
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09:54:01	Guest55344	it has the 5.5 software
09:54:45	funman	are you connected as administrator?
09:54:59	Guest55344	i turned off uac
09:55:10	gevaerts	are you sure it's 6.6 and not 6?
09:55:15	gevaerts	*5.5
09:55:21	Guest55344	yup
09:55:45	funman	I don't know if turning off uac automatically grants you administrator privileges, but rbutil for sure needs them (administrator privileges)
09:55:45	Guest55344	i have one ipod on 5 and one on 5.5 and this is definitely 5.5
09:56:27	Guest55344	it works fine other than not being able to find my ipod and it crashes when i try to autodetect
09:56:43	Guest55344	i ran it in compatability mode to no avail
09:57:29	Guest55344	i tried the ipod in disk mode also
09:58:00	Guest55344	and the manual install but ipodpatcher.exe cant find it either
09:58:22	pcc1	pamaury: to avoid duplication of work, this is what I plan to work on next:
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09:58:58	CIA-43	New commit by jdgordon (r22648): stupid yellow.... I'm going to bed
09:59:15	Guest55344	any ideas
09:59:37	pcc1	pamaury: modification of send_data_block to use send_split_data
09:59:58	DerPapst	Guest55344: have you in any kind messed with the firmware partition?
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10:00:13	Guest55344	nope
10:00:49	Guest55344	all i have done to the ipod is unzipped the 5.5 firmware into F:
10:00:55	Guest55344	which is my ipod
10:01:04	pcc1	pamaury: implementation of SendObjectInfo and SendObject
10:01:22	DerPapst	Guest55344: and the firmware still works?
10:01:53	Guest55344	my ipod still runs on the apple software if thats what you mean
10:02:00	pcc1	pamaury: eol
10:02:02	Guest55344	this is the first install
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10:02:53	funman	Guest55344: you can try manual install as described on http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-110002.2.2
10:03:17	Guest55344	i tried that already
10:03:36	Guest55344	the installer still cannot find my ipod
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10:04:01	DerPapst	ok. should work then. either there is a problem with the user rights, the partitiontable or the firmwarepartition are modified in a way that ipodpatcher doesn't like or maybe there is another USB device interferring with your ipod.
10:04:08	DerPapst	i'm out of ideas
10:04:20	gevaerts	rbutil has a system info option somewhere
10:04:51	Guest55344	i cant see how there would be user rights issues with uac off
10:04:59	pamaury	pcc1: eol ?
10:05:05	pcc1	end of list
10:05:21	Guest55344	all i can think of is if the installer doesnt like the combination of the 5.5 chip with an old hdd
10:05:39	Guest55344	but it was restored so i dont see how that could cause a problem either
10:05:50	gevaerts	Guest55344: run rbutil, go to About->System Info, and paste the contents of that to pastie.org
10:06:02	DerPapst	incase of the modified partitiontable or firmwarepartition a restore with itunes might help but that would make you lose all files.
10:06:19	pamaury	ok
10:06:45	pamaury	pcc1: I don't know on what I will work now. Probably implementing object properties
10:06:47	Guest55344	its already a blank ipod i restored it today because i just reassembled the parts
10:06:55	DerPapst	ah ok
10:06:59	Guest55344	i dont know what pastie.org is
10:07:05	Guest55344	website?
10:07:06	gevaerts	it's a pastebin site
10:08:05	pcc1	pamaury: one thing needs to be done at some point: adding the creation date fields to dircache_entry
10:08:08	gevaerts	yes, a website
10:08:12	Guest55344	mk ill do that
10:08:46	pamaury	pcc1: ah yes, I could do that. I would need some time to dig into the code but I will lokk at it
10:08:49	pamaury	*look
10:09:24	Guest55344	will you be able to see this
10:09:29	Guest55344	i did it
10:09:39	gevaerts	ok, now tell us the URL you got
10:09:41	Guest55344	http://pastie.org/608311
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10:10:06	Guest55344	F is the ipod
10:10:16	pcc1	pamaury: I'm going now but I'll probably be on later
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10:10:27	gevaerts	is it plugged in over USB?
10:10:42	Guest55344	yes
10:11:07	pamaury	pcc1: Not sure I will be online this afternoon.
10:11:36	gevaerts	hm, the "Attached USB devices
10:11:44	gevaerts	" list is empty. It really shouldn't be
10:11:53	kugel	pamaury: can one see your progress anywhere?
10:11:56	Guest55344	well its removable storage
10:12:00	Guest55344	im not sure
10:12:15	Guest55344	its definitely not connected by sata
10:13:03	Guest55344	nor firewire
10:13:14	Guest55344	its the normal ipod cable
10:14:08	pamaury	kugel: godeater/rockbox">http://github.com/godeater/rockbox, branch mtp
10:14:24	*	gevaerts has no idea
10:14:35	kugel	page doesn't exist (?)
10:14:40	Guest55344	yea im stumped too
10:14:58	kugel	ah, xchat put the "," into the url
10:15:52	DerPapst	Guest55344: are any other usb devices connected?
10:16:15	Guest55344	wireless keyboard and mouse
10:16:32	Guest55344	and im working from a laptop connected to a hub
10:16:42	Guest55344	the ipod is connected to the hub
10:16:49	Guest55344	but thats it
10:16:58	DerPapst	can you connect it directly to the laptop?
10:17:28	Guest55344	its worth a try
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10:18:40	Guest55344	it still gives a no ipod detected error when i try to install
10:18:53	Guest55344	but itunes still finds it
10:19:33	DerPapst	and the list is still empty i guess?
10:19:45	Guest55344	which list
10:19:53	DerPapst	rbutils list
10:20:05	DerPapst	About->System Info
10:20:11	Guest55344	ah
10:20:39	Guest55344	yep same as before
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10:21:34	DerPapst	my last suggestion: try it again with another system. otherwise i'm out of ideas
10:21:45	Guest55344	yea im not sure
10:21:51	Guest55344	ill try that i guess
10:21:53	DerPapst	at least your usb mouse and keyboard should be in that list
10:22:00	Guest55344	thanks for your help
10:22:03	Guest55344	thats true
10:22:31	Guest55344	i think it might be an issue with vista sp2 and the installer
10:22:36	kugel	pamaury: a bit OT: Do you merge master into mtp, or rebase mtp? (the network graphic looks a bit weird)
10:22:39	Guest55344	but thats a wild guess
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10:23:29	pamaury	kugel: I don't know, I'm a git newbi so perhaps I did something weird
10:24:26	Guest55344	hmm
10:24:34	Guest55344	auto detect works now
10:24:56	Guest55344	and it finds the correct hardware
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10:25:03	Guest55344	but still no installationg
10:25:10	Guest55344	*installation
10:25:31	pamaury	kugel: is it a problem if I did so ?
10:25:54	kugel	if you merge, you get a merge commit which is rather noisly (and you lose the history of master within mtp). if you rebase, it appears that the mtp commits are on top of all master commits, so rebase is recommended (for git-svn repos anyway)
10:26:49	pamaury	kugel: what is rebase ?
10:26:54	kugel	you're not really wanting to merge (join to branches into a single one), but just "sync" your branch to master, which is what rebase was made for
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10:27:46	kugel	git help rebase :) just try out "git rebase mtp master" (you can even abort a rebase in case of conflicts)
10:27:48	pamaury	ok, so if I want to sync mtp with master, what should I do ? git rebase ?? ??
10:27:56	Guest55344	wow, i even tried installing the installer on the ipod itself and the program runs but still cant find itself
10:29:04	DerPapst	iirc that wouldn't work because the ipod has to be unmounted in order install the bootloader
10:29:46	Guest55344	well
10:29:49	Guest55344	after some fiddling
10:30:04	Guest55344	i got the rockbox firmware to install
10:30:12	Guest55344	but i still cant install the bootloader
10:30:18	Guest55344	so its kind of useless
10:32:05	DerPapst	odd indeed. last help would be the very old installation process but i guess neither the instructions nor the tools are still online ^.^
10:32:22	pamaury	kugel: when I'm on master branch, git status says "Your branch and 'origin/master' have diverged, and have 17 and 8 different commit(s) each, respectively.", what does it mean ?
10:32:50	Guest55344	hmm
10:33:04	kugel	that happens if you do git svn rebase.
10:33:22	Guest55344	i might try installing an older version of the ipod software
10:33:39	Guest55344	maybe the software is too new and the utility cant find the bootfile
10:34:11	DerPapst	the ipods firmware version shouldn't matter. but worth a try anyway.
10:34:48	kugel	you rebase your local repo. the origin is rebased too, but if you don't do git fetch to re-read the info from origin, your local repo doesn't see that the remote is also updated (hence it thinks you're aheard). that's nothing to really worry about
10:37:10	pamaury	I've done a git fetch to see but it continues to display this message. Is it normal ?
10:37:55	Guest55344	do you know if the default software is stored in flash or on the hdd
10:38:04	Guest55344	i would assume flash
10:38:31	Guest55344	but if it was the hdd then it could be installing a version not compatable with the chip
10:38:52	kugel	pamaury: which branch are you on?
10:38:52	DerPapst	hdd and flash. the firmware you use is stored on the hdd and the backup system is stored on flash rom
10:39:08	pamaury	kugel: on master
10:39:10	kugel	the message normally wents away after git fetch && git svn rebase
10:39:18	Guest55344	i just restored again
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10:39:28	Guest55344	since it cant hurt anything
10:39:36	kugel	do you have git commits in master?
10:39:38	Guest55344	and im debating wheteher to update the software as well
10:40:30	pamaury	kugel: normally no
10:41:55	pamaury	kugel: I've done git fetch & git svn rebase on master but it fails at some point in usb_mtp.[ch] . I think I've done something wrong on master
10:42:10	kugel	it looks like
10:43:01	pamaury	kugel: but I've not modified anything in master afaik.
10:43:24	kugel	master really should be clean (only contain svn commits). you should be able to fix that though
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10:43:43	pamaury	kugel: what should I do ?
10:43:54	kugel	join #rockbox-community
10:44:02	kugel	(getting a bit too ot here)
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10:46:02	Guest55344	do you know if there is an alternate bootloader to the rockbox one
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10:49:58	DerPapst	the ipodlinux one but that requires the same installation procedure. so not really a help
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10:53:18	Guest55344	it might just be an issue with this specific utility
10:53:43	Guest55344	the problem with the ipodlinux one is that ipodlinux.org is down right now
10:55:12	DerPapst	well i have a backup but you'd still require ipodpatcher to install it.
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10:55:40	Guest55344	ah
10:55:47	Guest55344	yea
10:55:53	Guest55344	that still doesnt work
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18:55:56	robin0800	JdGordon: did you see my pastebin?
18:56:09	JdGordon	just looking now
18:56:31	JdGordon	you still have the %Cl after %C
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18:56:40	JdGordon	and %C outside of the aa viewport
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19:05:28	JdGordon	robin0800: also, you should tihnk about sharing some viewport labels if you can... makes it much easier to rea
19:05:28	JdGordon	d
19:06:01	*	JdGordon has been thinking about being able to give viewports and images proper labels instead of single letters...
19:09:48	robin0800	JdGordon: custom wps says %C can be anywhere and recommends end but don't think that matters with viewports
19:10:02	JdGordon	it does
19:10:08	JdGordon	I need to fix that
19:10:19	JdGordon	it now depends on the viewport its in
19:11:26	*	kugel wonders if anyone tried statusbar = button and buttonbar
19:12:20	kugel	%C never needed to be in the vp it's displayed AFAIK
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19:13:20	kugel	neither normal images :/
19:13:49	JdGordon	%C was changed to require the viewport
19:13:55	JdGordon	normal images always did
19:14:14	kugel	are you sure?
19:14:27	JdGordon	ye
19:14:56	JdGordon	images can be drawn in any viewport (you can put the same one on more than once even) but the offsets in the %xl line are viewport relative
19:15:11	kugel	yes
19:15:21	pixelma	huh? they are positioned relative to the viewport - you could place them in the default viewport but that's a different thing
19:16:22	kugel	yes, I know the coordinates are viewport-relative. That was the case with album art also
19:16:25	pixelma	e.g. I use one bitmap strip in my WPS that I use in different places on the screen - in different viewports (and it's taking only one ID)
19:17:12	JdGordon	kugel: that was never the case for AA (on purpose).... it just happened that it was drawn where the %C tag went, o it could be anywhere
19:17:31	JdGordon	pixelma: oh that still works? good... just looking at the parser and i was worried i broke that :p
19:18:03	pixelma	well haven't updated since r22608 or something close
19:18:27	JdGordon	it would have broken at the start of the recent work
19:19:17	pixelma	btw. the %C is positioned relative to the viewport to for me (preloaded at the top left corner but it's not in the top left corner of the screen
19:19:32	pixelma	s/to/too
19:19:46	JdGordon	yes, but by accident though
19:19:54	JdGordon	it is now formally doing that
19:21:12	pixelma	I should really try and update (didn't have much time during the weekend)
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19:23:00	pixelma	JdGordon: and also I use %?mh<%C\|something else> ;)
19:23:26	JdGordon	wierdo :D
19:23:46	JdGordon	thats no aa if the hold is on?
19:23:51	pixelma	yes
19:24:34	JdGordon	ok, that would acually be good for batt life
19:24:59	JdGordon	the engine is a bit stupid for images, they are redrawn every pass... so a few times a second :(
19:25:00	saratoga	kugel: whats the install process on the YH players like? just drop a .mi4 file?
19:25:08	kugel	yea
19:26:16	kugel	rename the OF file to OF.mi4 if dual boot is wanted (which I can't imagine since only the samsung bootlodaer has usb anyway), drop the bootloader file into /system, extract rockbox.zip
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19:26:53	pixelma	err... AA if hold is on - something else if it's not
19:27:14	robin0800	JdGordon: Changed http://paste.ubuntu.com/266779/ still not working
19:28:00	JdGordon	%?C<%C%t10%Vda%Vdc%Vdl%Vdm%Vdn%Vdv%Vdo%Vdp%Vdq%Vdr%Vds%Vdt\|%t5%Vdu%Vdc%Vdl%Vdm%Vdn%Vdv%Vdo%Vdp%Vdq%Vdr%Vds%Vdt>;%t10%Vdb%Vdd%Vde%Vdf%Vdg%Vdh%Vdi%Vdj%Vdk is now in the 'a' viewport which is disaled by default....
19:28:08	saratoga	kugel: you should really post that on the wiki
19:28:32	kugel	I will
19:28:32	JdGordon	the %?C there is fine... its the other %C which is bad
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19:28:54	saratoga	also why the hell are people in New Ports recommending rbutil to install the YH players
19:28:56	JdGordon	%Cl doesnt need to be in the viewport
19:29:02	saratoga	surely our own people realize thats not going to work . . .
19:29:09	JdGordon	people are stupid...
19:33:15	pixelma	AlexP: why did you move that thread? From his description it sounds like it is a WPS issue, he just didn't state which WPS he uses. The normal statusbar doesn't show "Vol:" and doesn't show the battery level in 4 segments
19:33:33	pixelma	unfortunately he didn't tell exactly when he sees that
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19:34:36	pixelma	the battery icon in the standard statusbar is also not in the top right but to the left
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19:35:01	AlexP	pixelma: Ah, I assumed in was in the statusbar (I never have it on and didn't check)
19:35:16	AlexP	pixelma: I'll put it back
19:36:07	AlexP	there :)
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19:37:16	pixelma	thanks... no I'm supposed to answer, I guess...
19:37:22	pixelma	s/no/now
19:38:42	n1s	does anyone have a working recorder and care to test fs#10569 ? any recorder will do afaict since they use the same rtc
19:39:04	robin0800	JdGordon: %?C<%C%...... this is not allowed right?
19:39:05	n1s	(any recorder == recorder \|\| recorderv2 \|\| fmrecorder)
19:39:21	JdGordon	robin0800: that is allowed... but its not what you want
19:39:51	robin0800	JdGordon: yes I do?
19:40:07	bertrik	I think I found another small bug in the c200 keymap
19:40:20	JdGordon	%Vda is all you need, then put %C inside the 'a' viewport
19:40:49	CIA-43	New commit by kugel (r22652): Set list_need_reinit to false somewhere too.
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19:47:46	robin0800	JdGordon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/266784/ This must be wrong it is blank
19:48:16	JdGordon	move the %?C line out into the main viewport
19:48:21	JdGordon	under %wd
19:49:16	kugel	Rob2223: %?C<%t10%Vda%Vdc%Vdl%Vdm%Vdn%Vdv%Vdo%Vdp%Vdq%Vdr%Vds%Vdt\|%t5%Vdu%Vdc%Vdl%Vdm%Vdn%Vdv%Vdo%Vdp%Vdq%Vdr%Vds%Vdt>;%t10%Vdb%Vdd%Vde%Vdf%Vdg%Vdh%Vdi%Vdj%Vdk
19:49:16	kugel	tis line must be in the default viewport
19:49:38	kugel	%Vd* has to be before the corresponding %Vl* definition
19:49:41	JdGordon	robin0800: 3 digit months?! cool!
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19:50:03	kugel	robin0800: ^
19:50:19	JdGordon	kugel: it doesnt... but it cant be inside a disabled viewport if you want it to work
19:50:44	kugel	well, not the default viewport, but still before the %Vl
19:51:00	kugel	that's written somwhere
19:51:56	robin0800	JdGordon: Its not blank any more but still flashes first screen
19:53:45	JdGordon	kugel: thats wrong then.... there is nothing against putting %Vda before %Vl\|a\| as long as the viewport eventually exsists
19:53:50	JdGordon	unlike images :/
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19:54:39	kugel	JdGordon: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS#Conditional_Viewports
19:55:12	JdGordon	thats wrong, but I'll leave it because its good practice to do that anyway
19:56:01	pixelma	I'm quite sure you said that this order is important in the beginning
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19:57:27	robin0800	JdGordon: thats exactly what used to work and is broken? now
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19:58:11	JdGordon	pixelma: yeah, probably :) but now its not (for viewports)
19:58:27	JdGordon	it would have been from the start because of how the parser set things up
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19:58:38	JdGordon	simpler parser means simpler rules
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20:20:58	TheSeven	what would be the next steps for the nano2 port? as i've seen, there isn't even an app.lds for s5l8700 yet, so i'm currently abusing a bootloader build to test things...
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20:22:55	kugel	TheSeven: that's because the other ports for that SoC never got behind the "I need a FTL" stage
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20:24:08	TheSeven	well, i also still need a FTL, but i have some hack allowing me to read at least... (not that i'd dare to call that proper code)
20:34:08	n1s	when the bootloader acn read the flash, the next step is usually to set up a real rockbox build that the bootlaoder can load
20:35:27	TheSeven	n1s: that's actually what i'm trying to do
20:35:52	TheSeven	but i'm not using a rockbox bootloader for it, so rockbox won't be able to read the flash
20:35:57	n1s	i'd say you're on the rght path then :)
20:36:35	n1s	are you using a different loader?
20:36:42	TheSeven	yes
20:36:58	TheSeven	i hacked one together from scratch yesterday
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20:37:44	n1s	ah, btw what should i do if i wanted to try to get the exploit running on my 4g nano?
20:37:57	TheSeven	help bruteforcing it...
20:38:25	TheSeven	we have a buffer overflow exploit, we just need to find out where our buffer is in order to jump to it
20:40:25	TheSeven	and another question (already mentioned this yesterday): what should i do about the remapped interrupts on the 8701? this is currently conflicting with shared 8700 code
20:40:40	n1s	is there anyone working on it, and is it just a matter of trying to jump to every possible adress? :S
20:40:58	TheSeven	both
20:41:17	TheSeven	in fact, we have built little robots to do this
20:41:38	n1s	no kidding?
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20:42:07	TheSeven	yep
20:42:15	TheSeven	http://hackaday.com/2009/08/30/lego-ipod-hacking-robot/
20:43:44	Hillshum	Haha
20:44:30	TheSeven	this thing just presses the ipod's buttons to constantly reboot it all day, putting a new file on it every time
20:45:28	TheSeven	can i just fork off a ipodnano2 version of kernel-s5l8700.c, and if yes, how?
20:47:16	saratoga	TheSeven: you probably want to add your FTL to rockbox so that you can use it from rockbox
20:47:34	saratoga	unless you've already done that and I misunderstood your above remark
20:47:35	Lss	great way to use lego
20:47:36	TheSeven	you won't want that code in there
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20:47:43	TheSeven	this seriously needs to be rewritten
20:47:55	saratoga	well if you feel like cleaning it up, you could submit a patch
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20:48:05	saratoga	without an FTL you won't be able to do anything with rockbox I think
20:48:18	saratoga	unless you could avoid touching the disk at all after the bootloader stage somehow
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20:49:34	TheSeven	well, the code I currently have works, but it's just a mess, as I've just written it along while trying to understand things, and misinterpreted (and therefore misnamed) some things etc.
20:50:01	TheSeven	not commented at all, hardcoded values all over the place instead of constants, ..., you know :-)
20:50:11	kugel	JdGordon: this is the grey overlay I'm constantly talking about http://imagebin.org/62908
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20:50:20	n1s	TheSeven: i'm lacking robot materials so i'll leave that to you guys, how long has this thing been working?
20:50:39	TheSeven	we're still working on making them work reliably
20:50:43	kugel	I managed to get a dump with my statusbar patch since it doesn't go away so fast (no subline in the statusbar).
20:50:48	*	bertrik has a data abort on his c200 where the Data abort text starts only slightly left of the middle
20:50:58	kugel	I get this with SVN too, and also with the non-statusbar version of azure ultimate
20:51:00	TheSeven	saratoga: do you have any idea what to do about that kernel-s5l8700.c vs. remapped interrupt numbers problem?
20:51:29	JdGordon	kugel: ?
20:52:04	fml	Hello. In the recent commit to plasma.c, wouldn't it be better to define a semantic symbol (e.g. USE_PAL256) and then check for that? Instead of repeating a complex condition many times?
20:52:11	bertrik	TheSeven, I think we should have a couple defines for the s5l8700 timer assignment to make it more flexible, some targets have dedicated functions for a specific timer
20:52:26	fml	kkurbjun: ping
20:52:57	bertrik	like backlight PWM or piezo driving
20:53:19	TheSeven	bertrik: the problem here is that they moved the interrupts themselves around. so a timer B int is detected by rockbox as a timer A one, making it retrigger, etc.
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20:54:35	TheSeven	and this stuff seems to be all hardcoded in kernel-s5l8700.c, which is shared with the meizus
20:55:19	TheSeven	bertrik: have you already played around with the timers on the other s5l8700 targets? would be nice if the ints were the same and only the preliminary datasheet would be off
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20:58:37	bertrik	TheSeven, the timers seem to work as indicated in the data sheet, the incorrect things were the pin assignment of the timers and the number of timers
20:58:44	Hillshum	TheSeven: Have you thought about wiring the buttons directly rather than using the robot to push them?
20:59:20	bertrik	another thing that seemed weird though is the exact clock used for the timers, still not sure if its HCLK or PCLK
20:59:39	TheSeven	Hillshum: our aim with this was to allow people who don't want to open their ipod to help (if they have a mindstorms set lying around, which quite a lot of them seem to have)
20:59:54	bertrik	this could also be a problem with the low-level HCLK/PCLK setup though
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21:00:34	TheSeven	bertrik: it looks like HCLK = PCLK on the ipod, both at 100MHz (at the point where my bootloader gets control)
21:02:20	TheSeven	i re-enabled the rockbox clock setup code yesterday and had a firing rate increase by factor 2 on timer b
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21:11:35	kugel	JdGordon: look at the progressbar on the pic
21:12:01	kugel	the first half is grey instead of blue'ish
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21:36:59	bluebrother	TheSeven: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/DataSheets/pcf50606.pdf
21:39:58	CIA-43	New commit by learman (r22653): Fix for FS #10492, by Aoyumi: Data abort errors when playing some Vorbis files.
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21:53:50	user__	hi guys
21:53:58	user__	one silly question
21:54:18	user__	is rockbox based on GPL?
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21:54:52	user__	or it has its own licence?
21:55:09	petur	GPL2+
21:55:27	user__	thanks guys
21:55:31	bluebrother	Rockbox is licensed under the GPL. It can't be based on a license, as it is software ...
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21:56:22	user__	yes. u r rgiht blue brother.
21:56:30	bluebrother	user__: http://www.ohloh.net/p/rockbox/analyses/latest
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