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| 00:07:23 | pixelma | well, the plugin is compiled for targets that are swcodec, have recording and have line-in or mic-in. So the Archoses are not included because they are hwcodec, I don't know what happens for the Clip |
| 00:08:42 | PSPdemon | heh |
| 00:09:49 | fml | pixelma: but there is no red, so I assume Clips are either not compiled or are covered somehow |
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| 00:18:55 | CIA-43 | New commit by alle (r22687): Quit with an error message if the LCD is not supported |
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| 00:23:57 | Pilif12p | Hi, can someone guide me through the process of installing rockbox on my Sansa e250? |
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| 00:25:15 | Pilif12p | (Could anyone see what i just said; I wan't identified) |
| 00:25:37 | CIA-43 | New commit by alle (r22688): Fix red |
| 00:31:37 | CIA-43 | New commit by alle (r22689): Revert everything to a workable state until the issue is investigated properly |
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| 00:34:45 | bughunter2 | Pilif12p: have you read the forum and wiki? |
| 00:34:51 | AlexP | Pilif12p: Have you read the manual? |
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| 00:35:08 | AlexP | bughunter2: Manual first (assuming it is a v1) :) |
| 00:35:15 | * | bughunter2 assumed it was a v2 |
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| 00:41:09 | Pilif12p | its a v2 |
| 00:41:17 | bughunter2 | then see the forum |
| 00:41:29 | Pilif12p | is there a link? |
| 00:41:34 | bughunter2 | use your brain |
| 00:41:58 | LightFuzeAndRun | I really hate to bother anyone but I am stuck! I am very interested in helping to port Rockbox to the V2 Sansa Fuze. I have some knowledge of electronics and programming, but I have never done any reverse engineering or systems programming of any kind. From what I understand the SoC in the Fuze uses a ARM processor? If so I will need to learn the assembly language used for that architecture? In order to |
| 00:42:04 | bughunter2 | Pilif12p: there is a test build available on the forum |
| 00:42:10 | Pilif12p | oh |
| 00:42:32 | bughunter2 | LightFuzeAndRun: your message got cut off after "in order to" |
| 00:43:04 | bughunter2 | LightFuzeAndRun: if you need to reverse, then you'd need to learn some ARM, yes |
| 00:43:32 | LightFuzeAndRun | here is the rest |
| 00:43:36 | LightFuzeAndRun | In order to decompile the original firmware I will need a tool like IDA Pro? Why do I need to decompile the original firmware to start with? What all is needed to port Rockbox to the V2 Fuze? Drivers?? What am I wrong about? What am I missing? Please help me! As you can tell I am very confused right now. Thanks −−John- |
| 00:43:49 | bughunter2 | you mean 'disassemble', not 'decompile' |
| 00:43:55 | LightFuzeAndRun | yes |
| 00:44:47 | bughunter2 | please have a look at the wiki for information regarding the current status of the port |
| 00:44:50 | Pilif12p | this one? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=22137.0 |
| 00:44:57 | Pilif12p | It says e200 |
| 00:45:10 | bughunter2 | you can read that as 'e2xx' |
| 00:45:43 | LightFuzeAndRun | I have looked through it but could not find much about the V2 fuse |
| 00:45:48 | LightFuzeAndRun | or fuze |
| 00:45:51 | bughunter2 | Pilif12p: (meaning it should work on your e250) |
| 00:46:00 | Pilif12p | Alright. |
| 00:46:04 | AlexP | Pilif12p: e200 is the e200 series |
| 00:46:18 | Pilif12p | Okay. |
| 00:47:39 | bughunter2 | LightFuzeAndRun: to be honest, there is probably much work to be done for the fuze v2 port, and if you have *no* prior experience you're going to have a hard time |
| 00:47:51 | bughunter2 | or need lots of help with every single step |
| 00:48:19 | LightFuzeAndRun | I know. I would like to learn this stuff anyway could you tell me quickly how I might start? |
| 00:48:26 | bughunter2 | 'quickly' ? |
| 00:48:34 | LightFuzeAndRun | well you know |
| 00:48:47 | LightFuzeAndRun | I am a quick learner |
| 00:48:52 | bughunter2 | so am I |
| 00:48:54 | LightFuzeAndRun | and do not need hand holding |
| 00:49:05 | bughunter2 | you probably will if you have no prior experience |
| 00:49:10 | bughunter2 | you already need hand holding at the moment |
| 00:49:15 | bughunter2 | which is proof of that |
| 00:49:51 | AlexP | LightFuzeAndRun: I'd say read the forum thread and the wiki, and then have a look at the existing rockbox code to see what is there |
| 00:50:30 | AlexP | I think there may be some sort of dissambly tool in the Rockbox source as well (although I may have confused that with something else) |
| 00:50:53 | AlexP | Then work out what is missing, and start trying to work out how to implement it :) |
| 00:51:10 | Pilif12p | So, get to the Cmd step |
| 00:51:16 | Pilif12p | and i keep getting this error |
| 00:51:25 | AlexP | which cmd step for what? |
| 00:51:26 | bertrik | some way of dual-booting, display and buttons are a good start |
| 00:51:33 | Pilif12p | "The system cannot find this path" |
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| 00:51:44 | Pilif12p | oh here... http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=22137.0 |
| 00:51:47 | AlexP | What are you trying to do? |
| 00:51:53 | bughunter2 | Pilif12p: you need to go the directory where you have mkamsboot |
| 00:51:56 | bughunter2 | or set PATH.. |
| 00:51:57 | LightFuzeAndRun | ok. But could you please tell me what is needed to port rockbox? and by that i mean is it just drivers? |
| 00:52:06 | bughunter2 | for example, put all the needed files in this directory 'rbinstall', then CD into that |
| 00:52:07 | AlexP | *just* :) |
| 00:52:17 | Pilif12p | i did |
| 00:52:45 | Pilif12p | Oh |
| 00:52:47 | Pilif12p | got it |
| 00:52:57 | AlexP | LightFuzeAndRun: In general www.rockbox.org/wiki/NewPort |
| 00:53:02 | Pilif12p | you right click on the folder, and click "Open COmmand Prompt here" |
| 00:53:06 | AlexP | Although some of that has been done |
| 00:53:28 | AlexP | Pilif12p: This is pretty basic computer usage, porting rockbox is many many orders of magnitude harder |
| 00:53:48 | AlexP | Pilif12p: Sorry, I confused you with someone else |
| 00:54:08 | AlexP | With a completely different nick :) |
| 00:54:11 | LightFuzeAndRun | I know I lie when I say no knowledge of systems programming |
| 00:54:12 | * | AlexP feels silly |
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| 00:54:22 | LightFuzeAndRun | I really meant no knowledge of embeded systems |
| 00:54:40 | bughunter2 | then replace 'systems programming' in my sentences with 'embedded systems' |
| 00:54:58 | bughunter2 | if I used that at all |
| 00:55:11 | LightFuzeAndRun | I guess I just need to hit the books then :( thanks for your help. |
| 00:55:15 | Pilif12p | and mkamsboot.exe fuzea.bin bootloader-fuze.bin patched.bin |
| 00:55:26 | Pilif12p | What do i do with that? |
| 00:55:28 | LightFuzeAndRun | I just thought since I have done driver programming I might be of some use. |
| 00:55:32 | AlexP | LightFuzeAndRun: Don't be discouraged - people are always welcome to pitch in :) |
| 00:55:32 | bughunter2 | LightFuzeAndRun: well, what helps is: read the current code, and see if you can understand it :) |
| 00:55:33 | Pilif12p | I have a sansa, not a fuze |
| 00:55:51 | bughunter2 | that way, you can verify if you grasped the concepts |
| 00:56:04 | LightFuzeAndRun | Ok thank you for your help |
| 00:56:05 | AlexP | Pilif12p: Sansa is the brand |
| 00:56:09 | bughunter2 | np |
| 00:56:19 | AlexP | Pilif12p: They make the fuze, the e200, ... |
| 00:56:23 | Pilif12p | oh |
| 00:56:36 | Pilif12p | i have an e250 |
| 00:56:50 | bughunter2 | Pilif12p: have you downloaded the correct firmware? |
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| 00:57:07 | Pilif12p | What do you mean? |
| 00:57:21 | bughunter2 | nevermind I'm talking on the wrong wavelength |
| 00:57:26 | bughunter2 | s/on/in |
| 00:57:43 | bughunter2 | Pilif12p: if you read the thread... |
| 00:57:50 | bughunter2 | you'd know you need a firmware |
| 00:57:56 | bughunter2 | which the mkamsboot utility will patch |
| 00:58:06 | Pilif12p | (I know nothing whatsoever about this, i feel stupid) |
| 00:58:18 | bughunter2 | you don't have to! |
| 00:58:20 | bughunter2 | just read the thread! |
| 00:58:44 | Pilif12p | hehe, the problem is, i do tech support for firefox |
| 00:58:49 | Pilif12p | thats why i feel stupid |
| 00:59:07 | Pilif12p | :P |
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| 01:00:46 | Pilif12p | what do i sub. the fuzea.bin with? |
| 01:00:48 | bughunter2 | Pilif12p: look, I'm even willing to do it for you.. |
| 01:00:58 | Pilif12p | oh? |
| 01:01:09 | bughunter2 | just boot your player, and look in the menus for the information... |
| 01:01:13 | bughunter2 | 1) which firmware do you use? |
| 01:01:31 | bughunter2 | i.e. which version |
| 01:02:15 | Pilif12p | V03.01.16A |
| 01:02:21 | bughunter2 | ty |
| 01:02:33 | bughunter2 | European version, with FM radio? |
| 01:02:41 | Pilif12p | Nope, american |
| 01:02:43 | bughunter2 | k |
| 01:02:52 | bughunter2 | just a sec |
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| 01:03:00 | bughunter2 | Pilif12p: FM radio though? |
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| 01:03:05 | Pilif12p | Yeah. |
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| 01:03:57 | bughunter2 | the firmware even had a 'A' suffix which hinted at 'American'.. missed that |
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| 01:04:05 | Pilif12p | heh |
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| 01:04:53 | bughunter2 | Pilif12p: ok so, download http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-sansae200v2.zip |
| 01:05:00 | bughunter2 | extract the .rockbox directory in the root directory of your player |
| 01:05:13 | bughunter2 | !!! make sure your player is in MSC mode first |
| 01:05:35 | bughunter2 | you can enable that in the settings menu |
| 01:05:38 | bughunter2 | USB Mode it is called |
| 01:06:01 | Pilif12p | alright. |
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| 01:06:57 | bughunter2 | then download the rockboxed firmware from here: http://77.164.66.126:8080/e200pA.zip |
| 01:07:01 | bughunter2 | after that, extract the file e200pA.bin and put it in the root of your player as well, then reboot your player |
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| 01:07:26 | Pilif12p | is the root directory System |
| 01:07:32 | Pilif12p | ? |
| 01:07:39 | AlexP | root is the first one |
| 01:07:49 | bughunter2 | the top level directory |
| 01:07:54 | AlexP | d:\ or e:\ for example (on Windows) |
| 01:08:03 | Pilif12p | Oh |
| 01:08:18 | Pilif12p | So just extract it to the player, no subfolders? |
| 01:08:30 | bughunter2 | yes |
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| 01:21:05 | bmendonc | Does anyone know of an avi codec |
| 01:21:58 | Pilif12p | Thanks :( |
| 01:22:01 | Pilif12p | er |
| 01:22:04 | bmendonc | If you do, can you append to the avi codec patch in tasklist |
| 01:22:07 | Pilif12p | s/ :( / :) |
| 01:22:08 | bughunter2 | np :) |
| 01:24:57 | Pilif12p | Now, how do i install a theme |
| 01:25:03 | Llorean | bmendonc: AVI is a container, there aren't codecs for it. If you're looking for AVI support in Rockbox, I suggest doing more research into what it is. |
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| 01:27:57 | gevaerts | Pilif12p: basically just unzip it to the root of the player, making sure the unzip utility does not add extra directories |
| 01:28:10 | Pilif12p | ok. |
| 01:28:17 | Pilif12p | does winexplorer work? |
| 01:28:23 | bughunter2 | why wouldn't it? |
| 01:28:31 | bughunter2 | assuming you mean the 'Windows Explorer' |
| 01:28:36 | Pilif12p | yeah |
| 01:28:41 | bughunter2 | OTOH, that thing doesn't always work |
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| 01:29:55 | Pilif12p | wait... |
| 01:30:10 | Pilif12p | it wants to make another .rockbox folder |
| 01:30:18 | bughunter2 | just overwrite the files |
| 01:30:27 | bughunter2 | it just uses the same file hierarchy |
| 01:30:33 | bughunter2 | which means you're doing it the correct way |
| 01:30:41 | Pilif12p | oh |
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| 01:32:12 | bughunter2 | Pilif12p: and, does it work? :) |
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| 01:34:36 | bmendonc | what about DivX avi format |
| 01:34:51 | bmendonc | Llorean |
| 01:34:55 | bmendonc | ??? |
| 01:35:29 | gevaerts | bmendonc: what about it? If you want to know something, a clear question can be very helpful |
| 01:35:33 | Llorean | bmendonc: AVI is a container. DivX is a proprietary name for a subset for MPEG4 advanced simple profile |
| 01:35:49 | Llorean | As I said, go do some googling. Research will help you a lot. |
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| 01:41:07 | bmendonc | okay so would a mpeg4 codec, if put into the avi filter could read the file after the filter "converted it". |
| 01:41:31 | Llorean | bmendonc: Seriously, go do some research. Your question doesn't even make any sense. |
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| 02:30:55 | TMan459 | Can I ask what is probably an easy question to answer about a certain patch to rockbox? |
| 02:32:11 | rasher | I think you should try |
| 02:32:35 | TMan459 | Well I wasn't sure if that was allowed here. Figured I'd ask beforehand. |
| 02:33:43 | TMan459 | It's regarding the anti-aliased fonts patch on the patch tracker. I have no problems applying the patch, but am not very experienced with compiling C (which is what I would assume convttf.c is written in). I was hoping for a point in the right direction to compiling this convttf.c in order to use it to convert my fonts. Any help would be awesome. |
| 02:34:36 | TMan459 | I can also use an old compile of AA fonts from Kugel dating Oct 08, but from reading the log it seems convttf has been improved since then, which is why I'd like to convert my fonts myself. |
| 02:38:13 | TMan459 | Does this even need to be compiled? If not how would I run the damn thing? |
| 02:39:53 | Llorean | That's more of a general question. How to compile things and how to develop are the subjects of many tutorials on the internet. |
| 02:41:25 | TMan459 | OK yea probably shoulda done some research first :( |
| 02:41:42 | TMan459 | i see a simple "gcc filename.c" should do the trick... dur |
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| 02:43:01 | TMan459 | Thanks for the help guys! |
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| 02:43:27 | pilif12p | Whats the Last.fm log on it for? |
| 02:43:54 | andrewrb | logging to last.fm? |
| 02:44:18 | pilif12p | You can listen to las.fm on it? |
| 02:44:20 | pilif12p | *last |
| 02:45:19 | bughunter2 | pilif12p: if you want to write code and your player has internet access, sure |
| 02:45:31 | andrewrb | uh.... |
| 02:45:32 | pilif12p | oh |
| 02:45:44 | andrewrb | last.fm lets you scrobble tracks you have played |
| 02:45:54 | andrewrb | from other devices such as portable music players |
| 02:46:08 | andrewrb | rockbox writes a list of every track you play to a log file |
| 02:46:17 | andrewrb | you scrobble it to your last.fm play log |
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| 03:23:45 | newbie | hi i installed rockbox on my ipod video |
| 03:24:15 | newbie | and now i started the apple original firmware |
| 03:24:33 | newbie | but i am unable to switch off the ipod to start back in rockbox |
| 03:24:41 | newbie | can any body help me |
| 03:25:03 | Presence | center-and-top-button reboot. |
| 03:25:13 | newbie | thanks |
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| 03:25:58 | newbie | its working thanks presence |
| 03:26:07 | newbie | i will explore more |
| 03:26:10 | Presence | You betcha! :) |
| 03:26:10 | newbie | bye |
| 03:26:13 | Presence | Enjoy! |
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| 05:09:22 | seu_barriga | hello |
| 05:10:12 | seu_barriga | i'm having some trouble with rockbox |
| 05:11:15 | seu_barriga | I have some songs that have asian characters on their name, but rockbox doesn't show their correct name and can't play them |
| 05:11:32 | seu_barriga | I've searched at google and tried to change the font to unifont, but nohelp |
| 05:11:37 | seu_barriga | no help* |
| 05:15:23 | seu_barriga | does anyone know what could be wrong? |
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| 05:42:26 | Devin_Rich | Hi all |
| 05:42:31 | Devin_Rich | anyone around tonight? |
| 05:43:34 | krazykit | do you have a question? |
| 05:43:38 | Devin_Rich | I am trying to hack my orkcbox |
| 05:43:41 | Devin_Rich | but I think I can't |
| 05:43:47 | Devin_Rich | trying to disable the radio |
| 05:43:59 | Devin_Rich | rockbox* |
| 05:44:02 | Devin_Rich | umm, so |
| 05:44:20 | Devin_Rich | my question is if anyone knows how to do this or if it just something that was added into the firmware |
| 05:44:37 | Devin_Rich | and I would have to go to a previous version that doesn't have radio support in the file to remove it |
| 05:45:01 | krazykit | well, i'm sure you could, but it seems easier to just not use the radio |
| 05:45:10 | Devin_Rich | yes, I agree |
| 05:45:19 | Devin_Rich | but I need to have the radio not work |
| 05:45:27 | Devin_Rich | to meet the requirements for my mp5 player |
| 05:45:30 | Devin_Rich | mp3* |
| 05:46:16 | FlynDice | why does the radio need to _not_ work...?? |
| 05:46:27 | Devin_Rich | do you know much about the files in the rockbox folder and what one I would likely want to roll back to remove the radio? |
| 05:46:57 | Devin_Rich | because I am going where I am allowed to take an mp3 player if I want to |
| 05:47:07 | Devin_Rich | but I have to be able to prove that it does not receive radio |
| 05:47:16 | Devin_Rich | or have any games |
| 05:47:17 | Devin_Rich | etc |
| 05:47:27 | Devin_Rich | for games I just deleted the games and some of the demo .rocks |
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| 05:48:25 | FlynDice | you could comment out the config_tuner line in your player config file and recompile it |
| 05:48:35 | Devin_Rich | ooooh |
| 05:48:37 | Devin_Rich | awesome! |
| 05:48:45 | Devin_Rich | ty, time to go google compling rockbox |
| 05:48:47 | Devin_Rich | haha |
| 05:48:49 | Devin_Rich | brb |
| 05:49:03 | krazykit | there are pages on the wiki describing how |
| 05:49:23 | krazykit | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToCompiling |
| 05:49:48 | Devin_Rich | awesome, thanks |
| 05:53:28 | FlynDice | Devin_Rich: what player are you using? |
| 05:53:41 | Devin_Rich | e200 series |
| 05:53:44 | Devin_Rich | Sansa |
| 05:53:53 | FlynDice | v1 or v2? |
| 05:53:59 | Devin_Rich | v1, ofc. |
| 05:54:03 | Devin_Rich | non rhapsody version |
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| 05:56:20 | Devin_Rich | hmm, I'm having trouble finding the source |
| 05:56:26 | Devin_Rich | which makes me feel dumb, w/e |
| 05:56:36 | Devin_Rich | I follow the link it just goes to a complied area |
| 05:56:47 | FlynDice | Devin_Rich: /firmware/export/config-e200.h comment out lines 103 &104 |
| 05:57:11 | Devin_Rich | woot, ty |
| 05:57:18 | Devin_Rich | now... to find that source |
| 05:57:24 | Devin_Rich | I can't see any .7z zips |
| 05:57:26 | Devin_Rich | to DL |
| 05:57:49 | krazykit | use the svn source |
| 05:58:01 | Devin_Rich | do I need a SVN program? |
| 05:58:12 | krazykit | you'll need subversion installed, of course |
| 05:58:16 | FlynDice | follow the link krazykit gave you.... |
| 05:58:32 | krazykit | but if you just follow the directions, it's all explained there |
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| 06:00:07 | Devin_Rich | ya, i went to that link, and it said that I can also get the source from the daily build |
| 06:00:29 | Devin_Rich | :( |
| 06:00:34 | Devin_Rich | guess I'll go get subversion |
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| 06:07:47 | seu_barriga | hello |
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| 06:16:29 | CIA-43 | New commit by blue_dude (r22690): Laying the groundwork for future features |
| 06:17:50 | Devin_Rich | Hi |
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| 06:35:00 | Devin_Rich | FlynDice, krazykit thanks for all your help. I think ima be able to get it here soon. |
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| 07:09:50 | Devin_Rich | anyone still around? |
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| 10:29:45 | CIA-43 | New commit by alle (r22691): Another take at quitting with an error message |
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| 10:51:41 | pixelma | fml (logs): if I understand correctly it shouldn't be necessary to have the same conditions in the bitmaps' SOURCES, the compiler shouldn't even try to go there if the plugin itself is excluded. It looks like it does and so I *think* something else is wrong... |
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| 11:07:27 | bertrik | on the c200, there are some keys that are not handled in the settings context, so they fall through in the standard context and then have an undesireable effect |
| 11:07:35 | bertrik | what the proper way to solve a problem like this? |
| 11:09:45 | bertrik | the settings context has an action for the none->left transition but not for left->left released transition for example |
| 11:10:59 | bertrik | so the latter button transition is handled in the default context resulting in an entirely different action |
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| 11:13:46 | pixelma | if it's just a few, I think adding ACTION_NONE would be ok - or don't link to another context and add the missing ACTION_STD_* to the settings context. Depends on how many of each you'd have to add, I'd say |
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| 11:14:49 | pixelma | bertrik: can you give an example where I can see the problem? |
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| 11:16:48 | pixelma | fml: I wonder why the pitch detector bitmaps are compiled so early in the process, all the other plugin bitmaps come way later |
| 11:18:19 | pixelma | hmm... that's only true when building fails. I really wonder what's up there |
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| 11:24:38 | bertrik | pixelma, if you go to the time date screen and try to do one step to the right (to the next date/time item): instead of just selecting the next item, it also interprets the right button as OK |
| 11:25:12 | bertrik | a similar problem is in the color adjustment screen |
| 11:25:44 | bertrik | I do have a fix for this, but I'm not sure it's the right way to fix it |
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| 11:29:31 | pixelma | hmm, I remember having fixed something in those two in the early days of the port :\ |
| 11:31:06 | bertrik | I have a fix in http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10586 |
| 11:31:33 | bertrik | it simply maps the offending button transition to ACTION_NONE in the settings context |
| 11:36:22 | pixelma | meh, the almost last minute change for having "long Right" as resume button (my idea was "Vol up" of my patch broke that (and wasn't tested properly then) |
| 11:42:42 | pixelma | also, the colour choser screen is slightly broken as it only shows the preview rectangle with a small enough font - 9 pixels tall is the biggest and I'm using 10-Nimbus (cabbiev2 even 11-Sazanami). It looks like there is enough space still for at least some slightly bigger fonts and I think it once worked with the 10 pixels tall font |
| 11:44:15 | pixelma | bertrik: I think the ACTION_NONE fix would be ok |
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| 11:48:42 | bertrik | ok, I think I'll make some final checks and commit this afternoon |
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| 13:39:54 | CIA-43 | New commit by bertrik (r22692): FS #10586: fix c200/c200v2 keymap for moving left/right in the Time&Date menu and for increasing/decreasing in the colour chooser screen. |
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| 14:15:14 | CIA-43 | New commit by kugel (r22693): Fix/band aid the freeze when %V is the first thing (i.e. in line 1) in a .wps (see FS #10596). |
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| 14:27:47 | FuzeFaceV2 | So has anyone figured out yet just exactly what the difference is between the V1 and V2 sansa fuze players? |
| 14:28:47 | FuzeFaceV2 | Is it a completely different SoC? |
| 14:29:34 | bertrik | the wiki says it is believed to be based on a AS3531 |
| 14:29:46 | AlexP | FuzeFaceV2: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaFuze#Fuze_v2 |
| 14:30:26 | FuzeFaceV2 | Is there a data sheet available? |
| 14:30:56 | bertrik | no |
| 14:31:01 | FuzeFaceV2 | :( |
| 14:31:33 | FuzeFaceV2 | So do you recomend I start looking at the original firmware file? |
| 14:32:28 | AlexP | That would seem to be the only way, no? |
| 14:32:47 | kugel | FuzeFaceV2: I found button reading and lcd functions already |
| 14:33:29 | FuzeFaceV2 | COOl! Is there any source code available for the V2 yet? I am a willing tester too :) |
| 14:33:36 | kugel | no |
| 14:33:56 | FuzeFaceV2 | Well I will have to make my own then! |
| 14:34:02 | AlexP | kugel: Is there a known recovery mode? |
| 14:34:10 | FuzeFaceV2 | I dont think so |
| 14:34:20 | kugel | no, no-one that is known |
| 14:34:41 | FuzeFaceV2 | That is the reason I am hesitant |
| 14:34:53 | FuzeFaceV2 | I am like 3 levels above noob |
| 14:34:54 | AlexP | kugel: So of them all (AMS) it is only the e200 vs that can enter recovery by shorting pins? |
| 14:35:03 | AlexP | s/vs/v2/ |
| 14:35:04 | kugel | it seems so, yes |
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| 14:36:00 | FuzeFaceV2 | So do you know if all the other hardware is the same (just new SoC)? |
| 14:36:38 | AlexP | FuzeFaceV2: What is known should be on that wiki page - there are also circuit board scans on there you can check |
| 14:37:01 | bertrik | it is a bit intriguing that the fuze v2 (and the fuze) do have a marking at certain pins of the flash chip |
| 14:37:35 | kugel | bertrik: I tried that shorting on the fuze, but I've not seen markings |
| 14:37:37 | FuzeFaceV2 | Ok I am sorry I will look it over again. I just don't think they could be too different |
| 14:37:49 | kugel | except the ones funman drew on a picture :) |
| 14:38:00 | AlexP | FuzeFaceV2: Why not? |
| 14:38:07 | bertrik | IIRC, the e200v2 bridge does something to the flash to trigger the recovery mode |
| 14:38:50 | FuzeFaceV2 | I don't think there was that much wrong with the v1 hardware. Unless they change all the hardware to mess with Rockbox devs. :) |
| 14:39:08 | AlexP | It isn't to do with being wrong |
| 14:39:26 | FuzeFaceV2 | what is it then? |
| 14:39:29 | AlexP | Things could be replaced with something cheaper, lower energy, .... |
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| 14:39:38 | FuzeFaceV2 | yes this is true. |
| 14:39:44 | AlexP | Things get changed within revisions |
| 14:39:54 | AlexP | let alone between them |
| 14:40:05 | kugel | bertrik: I'm not sure if it's a recovery mode, it seems more like the mode to flash a firmware on the device (i.e. the ROM bootloader doesn't even try to load code), I don't know why this mechanism only works the e200v2 though |
| 14:40:23 | gevaerts | it's all to do with reflected-sounds-of-underground-spirits |
| 14:40:35 | FuzeFaceV2 | lol |
| 14:41:04 | FuzeFaceV2 | I think it is a conspiracy |
| 14:41:36 | FuzeFaceV2 | I think everyone is shady though :) |
| 14:42:31 | kugel | gevaerts: re r22680, I think the whole viewports_parse_viewports function should be #ifdef HAVE_LCD_BITMAP (as it is in viewport.c) |
| 14:43:13 | gevaerts | kugel: why? As far as I know the Player does have viewports |
| 14:43:28 | kugel | not in the wps |
| 14:43:39 | gevaerts | ah, ok |
| 14:43:46 | kugel | only internal |
| 14:45:25 | gevaerts | feel free to change it. I think I've just proven that I know little enough about it to not be trusted with it :) |
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| 15:33:27 | bughunter2 | I get "SD bank -1 error : 0x10" at random (I haven't been able to pinpoint it yet) on the e200v2, any idea on how to reproduce this? |
| 15:35:54 | kugel | gevaerts: did you check if build-all.sh still works? |
| 15:36:15 | gevaerts | kugel: uhm, no |
| 15:36:37 | kugel | it doesn't work here, but I wasn't sure if my changes caused that |
| 15:39:08 | gevaerts | I could spend some time on this, but I'm not convinced that we still need it |
| 15:41:04 | CIA-43 | New commit by kugel (r22695): Get rid of some of the code duplication from checkwps, it still duplicates a lot though. |
| 15:47:00 | kugel | hrm |
| 15:47:03 | kugel | interesting |
| 15:47:19 | kugel | I didn't get a new build after the "10 builds left" message |
| 15:47:52 | kugel | actually, I didn't get any builds after 3 minutes before the end of the build |
| 15:48:34 | kugel | also, my client is totally underrated, leading to only bootloader builds |
| 15:49:12 | * | kugel wonders when my average score dropped so dramatically |
| 15:50:38 | kugel | there seems to be a bug |
| 15:52:59 | kugel | rasher's buildgraphs page shows the weirdness |
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| 16:13:44 | pixelma | I took out my client when few more faster clients were added and I still only got the "best fit" whatnot sim which in 9 of 10 cases was done by someone else before mine (it didn't "readjust" so I got more simple builds), just saying |
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| 16:45:20 | chamikal | Hi |
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| 16:57:51 | IwannaRockbox | So I have a question .... what is it exactly that keeps a person from just writing an operating system for a portable media player? |
| 16:59:01 | AB3JU | IwannaRockbox: lack of documentation on the hardware |
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| 16:59:52 | IwannaRockbox | So let me get this straight with out proper documentation they cannot write drivers, etc. |
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| 17:00:26 | AB3JU | right |
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| 17:00:35 | LinuxMafia | hi |
| 17:00:48 | LinuxMafia | i can not remove .rockbox/ |
| 17:01:05 | LinuxMafia | Read-only file system |
| 17:01:42 | IwannaRockbox | So how would I get started lets say trying to write a hello world type app for a PMP? |
| 17:02:29 | AB3JU | IwannaRockbox: well, if you wanted it to actually be usable, you'd need to figure out how to use the chipset and LCD driver, at a minimum |
| 17:02:43 | AB3JU | and also how to load it |
| 17:03:19 | IwannaRockbox | Ok thank you very much! And by load do you mean like loading a firmware file? |
| 17:04:37 | AlexP | If no documentation is available, then reverse engineering is needed |
| 17:04:48 | AlexP | IwannaRockbox: See www.rockbox.org/wiki/NewPort |
| 17:05:24 | moos | LinuxMafia: If you have backups, maybe reformat the player. That may be a file system corruptiion |
| 17:05:24 | AlexP | LinuxMafia: I suspect you have filesystem errors then - linux will mount ro if it detects errors. Try fsck.vfat |
| 17:05:38 | AlexP | moos: Surely try to fix it before reformat? |
| 17:05:45 | AlexP | That seems a bit extreme |
| 17:05:50 | moos | indeed if possible |
| 17:05:53 | LinuxMafia | ok thanks alot |
| 17:06:02 | IwannaRockbox | Shure looks like I have a lot to learn :) thanks for your help guys. |
| 17:07:27 | LinuxMafia | ok yeah i make aback up |
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| 17:07:59 | moos | just in case you have to reformat; back ups are always good |
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| 17:16:52 | mjheagle8 | !rules |
| 17:16:55 | mjheagle8 | after installing rockbox on my ipod, it is recognized by lsusb but is not automounted and does not receive a /dev entry. why does this occur/how do i fix it? |
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| 17:25:05 | CIA-43 | New commit by kugel (r22696): Repair build-all.sh and clean-all.sh. ... |
| 17:27:40 | kugel | strange, I again get no more builds |
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| 17:29:49 | CIA-43 | New commit by kkurbjun (r22697): Jpeg Viewer: Add support for Vertical Strides |
| 17:30:59 | kkurbjun | kugel: I've been thinking a bit more about on the fly rotation. I think it could be done without too much trouble in the main build |
| 17:31:04 | kkurbjun | plugins would be an issue |
| 17:31:18 | kugel | \0/ :) |
| 17:31:54 | kkurbjun | the main build only has two bitmaps that would need to be handled |
| 17:32:13 | kkurbjun | if the USB bitmap could be factored into the skin that would make it even easier |
| 17:34:24 | kugel | aren't there a few built-in icons? |
| 17:34:35 | kkurbjun | what I was thinking is that when you change the orientation the skin could be cleared and then the user would have to load a new one in the proper orientation, that would allow the bitmaps to be reloaded in the proper orientation |
| 17:35:33 | mjheagle8 | after installing rockbox on my ipod, it is recognized by lsusb but is not automounted and does not receive a /dev entry. why does this occur/how do i fix it? |
| 17:37:23 | kkurbjun | there is a default set of icons, but they could be stored twice or there could be a special case to re-orient them - the usb icon could do the same I guess, but I think removing it into the skin would make more sense in the long term and keep it simpler |
| 17:37:59 | kkurbjun | plugins could also theoretically be re-oriented at load time, but I'm not sure how that would be implemented |
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| 18:36:19 | DaveDavenport | howdy |
| 18:37:13 | DaveDavenport | I opened up my philips hdd6320... anybody interrested in photo's from the pcb? |
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| 18:39:21 | rasher | DaveDavenport: Stick them on the wiki |
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| 18:42:44 | DaveDavenport | I will see if I can take some pictures tomorrow |
| 18:43:08 | DaveDavenport | I guess you guys are mostly interrested in the chip numbers |
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| 18:43:54 | rasher | Indeed. It's my understanding that many of the philips models are similar, so it could be that we already have much of the needed code for the hdd6320 |
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| 18:44:14 | DaveDavenport | beside the touchpad most things worked ok |
| 18:44:19 | DaveDavenport | touchpad missed some buttons |
| 18:44:35 | DaveDavenport | my hardisk seems to be unresponsive atm |
| 18:45:00 | rasher | Ah, it already (almost) works! Didn't know that |
| 18:45:04 | DaveDavenport | so I am getting a "please connect player to pc" |
| 18:45:21 | DaveDavenport | rasher: I even mailed it to the ML, but got a bitch about it not being 100% correctly |
| 18:46:23 | DaveDavenport | only have s imple canon, but I will take pictures tomorrow |
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| 19:24:39 | incognito | Hi, I just downloaded RockBox a few days ago, but I'm confused on how to get my shortcuts into the main menu, if possible. Right now the shortcut file appears in the 'Files' area, and i can see the shortcut.link icon when i plug it into my computer, but where do i move it to get it to show up alongside 'Files', and not inside of it (clearly I am not a programmer but i hope i got the gist across). Any help is a |
| 19:26:56 | TheSeven | incognito: Your message was clipped off after "Any help is a" |
| 19:27:27 | incognito | *appreciated* (so not a big loss) |
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| 19:41:08 | PaulJam_ | incognito: i don't think it tis possible to add shortcuts to the main menu without modifying the source code. |
| 19:41:54 | incognito | darn, i kinda suspected as much. Thanks for the reply though. |
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| 20:32:43 | fml | Hello. Could somebody shed some light at the problems with pitch_detector bitmaps compiling? See commit r22691 and today's remarks in IRC at 10:51 (http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20090913#10:51:41) |
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| 21:00:45 | profil | Anybody who knows Soaa? |
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| 21:06:13 | AlexP | Soaa? |
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| 21:07:45 | profil | AlexP: yes, a rockbox developer on samsung p2 |
| 21:08:09 | AlexP | never heard of him |
| 21:08:22 | AlexP | And haven't seen him here that I can remember |
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| 21:12:09 | profil | AlexP: Oh, but I'm sure he has been here, or is there another rockbox channel? |
| 21:12:18 | AlexP | no, just this one |
| 21:12:28 | profil | Okay.. |
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| 21:27:58 | kugel | fml: I find it a bit sad that you didn't seem to take notice on the typedef thing we objected |
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| 21:40:40 | Szeraax | so i'm trying to remove some functionality in rockbox |
| 21:41:09 | Szeraax | and commented lines 103 and 104 in the config-e220.h file (usign rockbox source) |
| 21:42:23 | fml | kugel: could you provied a patch? I haven't followed the full discussion. |
| 21:42:57 | Szeraax | Code: //#define CONFIG_TUNER LV24020LP −−AND−− //#define HAVE_TUNER_PWR_CTRL but now I get errors about stuff not being defined in functions are such. Anyone know how to remove the FM functionality in rockbox from the source and still be able to build it? I have confirmed that if those lines aren't commented (as they came) then I get a successful build |
| 21:42:58 | fml | I think it's better to have the plugin in SVN, then it's easier to change. And to test. And it works! |
| 21:43:12 | pixelma | AlexP: I think someone with this nick was around here (might have been a while, and maybe with a slightly different spelling) - and I think he has the same nick in the forums |
| 21:43:58 | bertrik | Szeraax, I'll have a look at that |
| 21:44:10 | AlexP | pixelma: yes I grepped it but he had left - there was a "soaa" asking about how to convert a font in 2006, then an "onlysoaa" who was last here in June |
| 21:44:29 | Szeraax | bertrik: what other info would be most helpful so you don't have to waste time? |
| 21:44:36 | bertrik | It's usually probably not the case that random combinations of features can be enabled or disabled |
| 21:45:06 | bertrik | you're trying to remove the radio, right? Why do you want that? |
| 21:45:37 | Szeraax | once I commented the #define lines, I was getting my first error in apps/menus/recording_menu.c line 88 |
| 21:45:44 | Szeraax | Yes, remove the radio functionality |
| 21:46:10 | Szeraax | because I need to prove that my mp3 player is not capable of receiving radio if I want to take it with me |
| 21:46:29 | Szeraax | rules\regulations... <3 |
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| 21:50:08 | Szeraax | hmm, just saw the bit about probably not being able to disable features. If you are indeed correct, then crap. |
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| 21:54:06 | Szeraax | might it work if I changed "#define HAVE_TUNER_PWR_CTRL" to "#define HAVE_TUNER_PWR_CTRL 0" (or False)? |
| 21:54:08 | Szeraax | time to go test |
| 21:54:22 | bertrik | no, that's not enough |
| 21:56:17 | Szeraax | nope, sure didn't work |
| 21:57:21 | Szeraax | so i might have to go through and remove ALL referencees to the FM\tuner stuff as well as all of the code for that so that it doesn't complain? oi... |
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| 22:33:20 | Szeraax | so here's my question: in other config files, those lines may not exist that enable the radio. Aren't these config files running through the same code? why don't they throw an error? Can I change my config file to use a similar player that doesn't have FM capability? |
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| 22:38:29 | Szeraax | oh. Firmware/target/... contains different stuff for different players. shutting up and back to tinkering |
| 22:39:54 | pixelma | Szeraax: what player is this for? |
| 22:40:08 | Szeraax | e200 |
| 22:40:12 | Szeraax | v1, non rhapsody |
| 22:40:15 | Szeraax | Sansa |
| 22:40:23 | Szeraax | trying to nix the FM tuner |
| 22:40:36 | Szeraax | getting compile errors from source |
| 22:43:05 | Szeraax | I think now ima try to leave the config file alone and edit the .c file that initializes the radio or something |
| 22:43:12 | Szeraax | see if that compiles and disables functionality |
| 22:43:42 | kugel | Szeraax: I'm not sure if radio can be disabled easily, but you can definitely easily hide the menu item |
| 22:44:03 | Szeraax | oh? that would be AWESOME |
| 22:44:15 | Szeraax | effectively disables the radio for me |
| 22:44:21 | kugel | just comment out some stuff in root_menu.c |
| 22:44:33 | kugel | (that file is in apps/) |
| 22:44:39 | Szeraax | ya, sadly I haven't played aroudn with source long enough to know the structure for rockbox |
| 22:45:02 | Szeraax | (got Subversion last night per rec from irc to start trying to build w/o radio) |
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| 22:49:38 | pixelma | for what it's worth the tuner related difference in the config files between OndioSP and OndioFM is CONFIG_TUNER, CONFIG_TUNER_XTAL and HAVE_TUNER_PWR_CTRL |
| 22:51:07 | Szeraax | ya, i was comparing about 5 different config files to see if those gave me any clues |
| 22:51:15 | Szeraax | but no, just different erros while compiling :( |
| 22:51:33 | Szeraax | I think kugel hit the nail on the head. This should work awesome. brb, compiling :D |
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| 22:52:22 | domonoky | disabling the features in the config should also work, if not, its a bug :-) |
| 22:52:29 | Szeraax | then its a bug. |
| 22:52:52 | Szeraax | I was getting heinous errors whiile disabling from the config file and compiling |
| 22:53:09 | Szeraax | (compile worked file w/o the commented code) |
| 22:53:18 | Szeraax | (w/o the code commented*) |
| 22:53:59 | pixelma | as the name says the OndioFM has a radio - the SP doesn't. By the way - if you aren't controlled often, maybe installing an original firmware without radio support (if there is one for the Rhapsody models) and a reverse bootloader that starts the original firmware by default might be a way. Only you would know how to start Rockbox and can even listen to the radio... but that's getting very off-topicy... |
| 22:54:56 | Szeraax | ya, I kinda screwed up my original firmware |
| 22:54:58 | Szeraax | :( |
| 22:55:14 | Szeraax | I heard that the European sansa firmware didn't have the radio option |
| 22:55:20 | Szeraax | (even though it may have the chip) |
| 22:55:33 | Szeraax | so I got the EU .mi4 file and put it in the root |
| 22:56:01 | Szeraax | after it didn't work, I put the original US (same version as my original one) .mi4 into the root |
| 22:56:07 | Szeraax | but now it acts differently than before |
| 22:56:19 | Szeraax | so that's kind of a bummer |
| 22:57:09 | Szeraax | the Rhapsody models have always had Radio support too, and sicne the EU didn't work for me, I'm inclined to make my changes through rockbox and lead them to believe that it is the only firmware on the palyer |
| 22:57:11 | Szeraax | player* |
| 22:59:10 | domonoky | hm, it gets errors, because the recording_screen depends on fm, and isnt correctly ifdeffed |
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| 23:00:52 | Szeraax | 2 other questions if anyone cares: 1. Anyone else get a error about file permissions when issuing "make zip" after build for a Dancepuffduo WPS? 2. Anyone know of a way to add entries to the "run this section on boot (the menu where you can say what menu to default to or to resume the last played playlist)" I would love to be able to start a plugin (demo) on boot automatically... |
| 23:02:21 | Szeraax | domonoky: interesting. what if we remove the dependancy from recording_screen and then comment? should work?(i'm prolly wrong) |
| 23:02:23 | krazykit | Szeraax, i believe the plugin-on-boot is provided by autorock, which should be covered in the manual |
| 23:02:32 | Szeraax | awesome, will check it out |
| 23:02:40 | krazykit | i'm not sure if that's the exact name, though |
| 23:03:04 | domonoky | how do you build for a specific wps ? do you want to include the wps in the make zip thing ? |
| 23:03:43 | Szeraax | I don't care about that specific one, no. but it is just in my wps folder that I got from the SVN |
| 23:03:51 | Szeraax | I suppose I could prolly delete it fine... |
| 23:03:59 | domonoky | Szeraax: yes if we correctly ifdef in recording_menu.c disabling the radio in the config should work |
| 23:04:48 | domonoky | disabling recording via config is at moment also broken on e200.. |
| 23:04:56 | Szeraax | I am using an e200 |
| 23:05:10 | Szeraax | v1, non Rhapsody |
| 23:05:26 | Szeraax | what were you using before when you got the error for your build? |
| 23:06:21 | pixelma | ah, from recording. This difference could be why I wouldn't see a problem on the Ondios - recording radio is done from the radio screen on those, not via context menu from the recording screen |
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| 23:06:44 | dirtydav | hows it going? |
| 23:06:56 | Szeraax | pretty good |
| 23:07:01 | Szeraax | my compile jsut worked :D |
| 23:07:09 | Szeraax | so ima see if my changes actually work or not here soon |
| 23:07:39 | Szeraax | you? |
| 23:08:14 | Szeraax | pixelma: I see. and yes, I don't get controlled often. Basically once or twice |
| 23:08:22 | Szeraax | won't* |
| 23:10:36 | dirtydav | just got a "new" ipod photo and got rockbox on it last night very simple and easy and wanted to say thanks |
| 23:11:34 | Szeraax | coolio, gald to hear you didn't have problems. and I agree. THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!! to the devs (like Dom I think?) that made such an awesome firmware to save us from the woes of corperations |
| 23:13:01 | Szeraax | OMG |
| 23:13:03 | Szeraax | <3 |
| 23:13:12 | dirtydav | yeah, the main feature i like is the extremely customizable EQ a great improvement from the stock preset ones |
| 23:13:23 | Szeraax | <3<3<3 kugel thanks so much! totally worked nice |
| 23:13:49 | Szeraax | now to start tinkering with those other things... |
| 23:15:50 | dirtydav | I had another question also does it madder where i put the songs? on the ipod it names them very funky code names and when i copy paste them on it will it still be able to be read from the stock OS? |
| 23:16:51 | Szeraax | I dont know for sure, but I know each file can contain meta data that provides song name, artist, composer, year, etc |
| 23:16:55 | domonoky | rockbox will play files from everywhere. the original firmware ofcourse still needs itunes (for ipods) |
| 23:17:09 | Szeraax | assuming that the meta data is present, file name should not matter |
| 23:18:20 | dirtydav | i CAN read them from rockbox :) just wondering if i copy/paste them in linux without itunes will i be able to read them from apples OS |
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| 23:19:07 | dirtydav | oh, |
| 23:19:11 | domonoky | dirtydav: no rockbox doesnt change how the OF works, so it still needs its itunes db and its strange filenames... but who needs the OF ? |
| 23:19:11 | Szeraax | oh |
| 23:19:19 | Szeraax | ^ |
| 23:19:21 | Arc | is work being done to add firewire sync and sleep to the rockbox firmware? |
| 23:20:05 | Arc | i love it, just a bit annoying to have to keep manually restarting it |
| 23:20:18 | dirtydav | yeah, just a quesion i was wondering... im on linux and i like the copy/paste V.S. sync anyday |
| 23:20:24 | domonoky | Arc: i dont think anyone is working on that. so feel free to jump in :-) |
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| 23:20:50 | Arc | i got a long enough todo stack, was just being hopeful that it was being worked on :-) |
| 23:21:09 | Arc | also trying to decide to go with a tiny ogg-only player or stick with the ipod |
| 23:21:42 | domonoky | Szeraax: to autostart a plugin take a look at apps\main.c line 119 :-) |
| 23:22:20 | | Part Arc |
| 23:22:21 | Szeraax | ya, while I was in that file I saw the autostart section which prompted my old question |
| 23:22:22 | Szeraax | haha |
| 23:24:04 | domonoky | :-) |
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| 23:24:35 | Szeraax | domonoky: so is adding the ifdeff to the recording_menu file something that is quick and easy; a standard thing that was jsut an oversight? or something big and scary |
| 23:25:55 | domonoky | Szeraax: its probably not so big thing, but currently i dont understand the code there so i am not sure what to change to make it work correctly :-) |
| 23:26:47 | Szeraax | coolio |
| 23:27:28 | dirtydav | what OS are you guys running on your computers ? |
| 23:27:43 | dirtydav | im on puppy linux 4.2.1 |
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| 23:28:26 | * | domonoky runs windows and sometimes linux, put we probably have many different os in use here. and please stay on topic ! :-) |
| 23:28:38 | krazykit | dirtydav, this is an on-topic channel about rockbox. please keep it about rockbox, and if you haven't read the IrcGuidelines, you really should |
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| 23:29:09 | dirtydav | ok, sorry |
| 23:29:44 | domonoky | JdGordon: you lastly poked at recording_menu.c, maybe you know how to best fix the FM radio config issue ? |
| 23:29:54 | JdGordon | whats the problem? |
| 23:30:23 | domonoky | if you disable fm recoder in the config-target.h file it breaks (line 88ff ) |
| 23:30:39 | JdGordon | 88ff? |
| 23:30:43 | JdGordon | decimal please :) |
| 23:30:49 | domonoky | 88 and following |
| 23:31:40 | Szeraax | Found using sansa e200 config file (for me at least) |
| 23:32:06 | domonoky | there is no LANG_FM_RADIO without radio (line 88) and the check at line 93 also doesnt seem to work correctly.. |
| 23:32:47 | JdGordon | i tihnk thats jhMikeS's work... |
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| 23:35:39 | JdGordon | is rockbox FAT not case sensitive? |
| 23:36:28 | Szeraax | hmm, I'm not finding much about AUTOROCK... can anyone explain this a lil more or point me to better reading? I enable the "#define AUTOROCK" line in the main.c file and what else? how do I define what rock to start on load? or is that done through the main.c file? would it be easier to jsut add the rock file manually to the autostart list in the settings area for the system? |
| 23:36:49 | JdGordon | it runs autorock.rock in the plugins folder |
| 23:37:37 | Szeraax | and where do I get it? again, very little on google about this |
| 23:37:47 | Szeraax | or is it another always there feature? |
| 23:37:53 | JdGordon | in the .rockbox/rocks/apps folder |
| 23:38:06 | JdGordon | you have to enabe it on your own buil |
| 23:38:07 | JdGordon | d |
| 23:38:16 | JdGordon | autorock.rock is just a renamed plugin |
| 23:38:16 | Szeraax | oooh |
| 23:38:27 | Szeraax | I get it! |
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| 23:38:29 | Szeraax | awesome, thanks |
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| 23:38:31 | Szeraax | time to go test |
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| 23:38:59 | domonoky | Szeraax: just rename any plugin to autostart.rock |
| 23:39:06 | Szeraax | after I enable that line |
| 23:39:08 | Szeraax | got it. |
| 23:39:16 | * | domonoky was too late :-) |
| 23:39:35 | saratoga_ | anyone looked at the second patch in FS #10605 - Patch for stable playback for clip_v1? |
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| 23:40:13 | Szeraax | 1 other question. When building, how much of the compile process do I need to re do? atm I am going into my build folder, deleting all. running the tools/configure script and then 'make', 'make zip' commands |
| 23:40:26 | Szeraax | can I jsut make the changes I want to to main.c and then make? |
| 23:40:33 | Szeraax | assumign still building for same player |
| 23:40:52 | Szeraax | UGH, i'm sorry bout all my terrible spellings. I hate typing lol. |
| 23:41:28 | saratoga_ | the make file will recompile whatever it needs to |
| 23:42:11 | Szeraax | well darn, that's amazing. I'm glad to be able to cut out all the extra fluff from my compiling time |
| 23:43:09 | JdGordon | saratoga_: oh nice.... althugh neither sound like they fix the root cause |
| 23:43:25 | saratoga_ | i'm trying to figure out what the second one would even do |
| 23:43:56 | saratoga_ | I didn't think overlap could be greater then the size of the object you're moving |
| 23:44:05 | kugel | moving codecs around doesn't seem to be the cause |
| 23:44:20 | kugel | since you also get it with mp3-only playlists |
| 23:44:42 | kugel | IIRC? |
| 23:44:48 | JdGordon | yes |
| 23:45:08 | JdGordon | I wonder if the codec ever gets buffered anyway with such a small buffer anyway |
| 23:45:20 | saratoga_ | its a shame theres no easy way to script calls to the buffering system |
| 23:45:29 | saratoga_ | this seems like the perfect place to have a test driver |
| 23:45:46 | saratoga_ | since doing it through the GUI is rarely reproducable |
| 23:45:47 | kugel | but it may have something to do with handles being buffered not completely |
| 23:45:59 | JdGordon | that shouldnt ever be a rpoblem |
| 23:46:11 | JdGordon | i mean.. if it is then it shouldnt be limited to low mem targets |
| 23:46:18 | JdGordon | it will be much more obvious though |
| 23:46:39 | saratoga_ | i'm sure its just a stupid check thats missing somewhere on one of these copies |
| 23:48:17 | JdGordon | very possibly |
| 23:48:30 | JdGordon | or an off by one.. or something qually annoying |
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