| 00:01:08 | * | n1s wonders if amiconn has an oppinion on this as he's basically the only dev with one of those afaik |
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| 00:01:27 | radioactix | hi |
| 00:01:37 | amiconn | My opinion is that we shouldn't overdo this categorization |
| 00:01:58 | * | gevaerts agrees |
| 00:02:04 | * | bertrik_ too |
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| 00:02:24 | LambdaCalculus37 | n1s: I have one as well. :) |
| 00:02:27 | gevaerts | As far as I'm concerned the point was to get more people using a port sooner |
| 00:02:33 | LambdaCalculus37 | Although little time on my hands to play with it. |
| 00:02:33 | n1s | ok, but would you deem the port good enough for daily use? |
| 00:03:05 | LambdaCalculus37 | n1s: The 2G iPod is very stable (for me), so yes, I think it's good enough for daily use. |
| 00:03:15 | n1s | ok then :) |
| 00:03:17 | radioactix | when will rockbox for the sansa fuze be released? |
| 00:03:19 | * | linuxstb agrees with not overdoing it, but still thinks that a "top-tier" would be useful - both for users to know the best-supported targets, and for devs to have something to aim for... |
| 00:03:23 | LambdaCalculus37 | Currently plugging in a FW cable causes the iPod to reboot to disk mode. |
| 00:03:52 | LambdaCalculus37 | So someone can probably work on a native FireWire mode for that port. |
| 00:04:01 | n1s | gevaerts: so the categories are reall "old mostly working ports", "newer mostly working ports" and "ports not quite there yet" ? |
| 00:04:44 | gevaerts | LambdaCalculus37: does that cause real issues though? |
| 00:04:59 | * | bertrik_ is pretty much OK with the current categorization on the rockbox main page, and only dislikes the title 'unstable' a bit (would rather see 'useable') |
| 00:05:11 | radioactix | would be nice to get an answer ;) |
| 00:05:25 | linuxstb | radioactix: The answer is that we never predict things... |
| 00:05:38 | bertrik_ | radioactix, could be next release, or maybe not |
| 00:05:41 | linuxstb | (as we are all volunteers doing this in whatever spare time we have) |
| 00:05:47 | radioactix | ok |
| 00:05:49 | LambdaCalculus37 | gevaerts: No, Rockbox works happily without a native FW mode. |
| 00:05:55 | radioactix | so it's in work? |
| 00:06:24 | bertrik_ | yes, it's starting to get quite usable I hear |
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| 00:06:31 | linuxstb | radioactix: It's "released" now - in as far as you can download it from the Rockbox website and install it. |
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| 00:07:02 | radioactix | is there the risk to break something if i use it on my fuze v1? |
| 00:07:40 | linuxstb | I think it's pretty safe - as far as I know no-one has ever broken a fuze by running Rockbox. But we don't offer guarantees... |
| 00:07:50 | gevaerts | n1s: it looks a bit like that, yes :). It's true that some of the existing supported ports wouldn't achieve the highest level today, but I'm not sure if that means we have to move things around |
| 00:08:21 | radioactix | ok, thanks for the information |
| 00:08:25 | radioactix | cya |
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| 00:09:11 | n1s | gevaerts: of course we don't have to, i'm just trying to understand how consistent we want to be |
| 00:09:14 | gevaerts | LambdaCalculus37: in that case I wouldn't consider that to be an issue at all, except in the purist sense |
| 00:09:43 | gevaerts | n1s: my vote is to first let the naming and requirement discussion settle a bit |
| 00:09:43 | * | linuxstb would like to be consistent - and hence relegate the less complete "Stable" ports |
| 00:09:53 | LambdaCalculus37 | gevaerts: Yeah, it's more of a "it would be nice" type of issue than a "holy crap this is a show stopper" issue. |
| 00:10:21 | * | linuxstb thinks the question is simple - do we want a "gold-standard" top tier, with quite tough requirements for entry, or do we keep things the same as they are. |
| 00:10:42 | Unhelpful | kugel: no problem. i'll admit i kind of barely skimmed the WPS parts of it. i haven't had cause to understand WPS in any depth before, and i haven't time now. :) |
| 00:10:56 | gevaerts | LambdaCalculus37: firewire ipods don't even miss out on things like HID due to using the OF |
| 00:10:57 | kugel | JdGordon|: interesting, WPS_ALBUMART_NONE is even only (expecitely, since it's 0 it may set implicitely elsewhere) set for the temp skin_albumart used for determining whether to restart playback |
| 00:11:21 | kugel | Unhelpful: the wps part is the easy part :) |
| 00:11:55 | * | gevaerts concedes that you could do lots of fun things with firewire, but he doesn't think that anyone would actually bother |
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| 00:12:22 | TheSeven | gevaerts: what's the point in that zero-byte OUT transfer on EP0 after the status stage of every EP0 transaction? |
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| 00:12:25 | linuxstb | gevaerts: I seem to remember reading that the firewire in the ipods wasn't capable of the fun stuff. But I can't remember the details... |
| 00:12:30 | Unhelpful | kugel: after i get back to work i want to finish the PF scrolling work i started... and then perhaps i can take a stab at "fixing" the scaler to be efficient in multi-AA. |
| 00:12:31 | TheSeven | is that supposed to re-setup EP0 for the next one? |
| 00:12:41 | kugel | the comment for WPS_ALBUMART_NONE says /* WPS does not contain AA tag */ in which case there isn't even a skin_albumart struct allocated to hold this value |
| 00:12:50 | kugel | I'm quite confident it's safe to remove |
| 00:13:29 | kugel | Unhelpful: yay, PF scrolling is nasty, it makes it hard to just use the center align flag for viewports do draw everything centered |
| 00:13:39 | gevaerts | linuxstb: oh, that totally removes my interest in it... |
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| 00:14:12 | linuxstb | gevaerts: Don't quote me on that though... |
| 00:14:26 | kugel | the reason PF uses it's own scrolling is that it doesn't draw text line oriented, since the core doesn't really support that (IIUC) |
| 00:14:36 | Unhelpful | kugel: there's a center align flag? never seen it. i have an FS task for the hooks PF will need to use the core scroll engine. |
| 00:14:45 | kugel | it's new :) |
| 00:14:52 | gevaerts | TheSeven: good question. I'm wondering now if that isn't actually something ARC specific... |
| 00:15:10 | kugel | Unhelpful: how's my patch ineffecient, is there something you don't like? |
| 00:15:14 | Unhelpful | the fix for *that* part is very small, you need only allocate a viewport for each of the magic places PF places text, and then draw on line zero. |
| 00:15:52 | TheSeven | gevaerts: actually that was breaking EP0 regs for me, as I didn't expect to ever see a recv on EP0 |
| 00:15:56 | Unhelpful | kugel: it's an issue that goes deeper into the scaler than you want to. with some work i believe image data can go through the loader *just once* and then be scaled to several sizes. |
| 00:16:03 | kugel | a) I don't think one bufopen should open more than 1 handle, b) my way allows to search for cover.X.X.bmp for each resolution |
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| 00:17:04 | Unhelpful | ah... yes, there will be some icky interactions with what the buffer needs. :/ |
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| 00:18:17 | Unhelpful | perhaps by getting scaled sizes for all of the sizes, allocating buffers for each image, and only *then* actually loading? |
| 00:20:15 | gevaerts | TheSeven: that's actually correct for the status stage I think, unless your controller already does that |
| 00:20:25 | * | gevaerts thinks that it's too late to properly think about this |
| 00:20:39 | Unhelpful | i just think that if possible we should avoid reading the file from disk, and decoding, multiple times. *if possible*. |
| 00:20:43 | * | TheSeven never dealt with that |
| 00:20:56 | JdGordon| | you want each image in a seperate handle though... so you can close the "next tracks AA" handle while keeping the "this tracks aa" handle open, where they are different |
| 00:21:04 | Unhelpful | it will tie in to other scaler code-style fixes i feel obligated to do, anyway, so i'll hit those first. |
| 00:21:41 | kugel | I'm not a big fan of your idea right now, but I'm confident you'll be doing something awesome :) just keep in mind that it that it was a lot of work to make buffering as generic as it is now (it still isn't totally but good enough to be used for several places), so don't break it too much :p |
| 00:23:33 | kugel | bufopen'ing each image before doing the scaling doesn't sound too bad |
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| 00:34:13 | CIA-85 | New commit by nls (r23178): Remove private memcpy wrapper that is no longer needed since r19847 and may cause issues with newer gcc versions, inspired by patch in FS #10676 by Duy ... |
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| 00:35:01 | kugel | n1s: heh, I was about to accept that patch (the first one) too, I actually noticed the problem a few month ago when doing my 4.4.1 test |
| 00:36:27 | n1s | that means i win! \o/ |
| 00:37:25 | n1s | i actualyy think i have seen it before too but never bothered to fix it since it didn't cause problems |
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| 00:40:03 | kugel | Unhelpful: are there some kind of api functions for struct dim? |
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| 00:40:17 | kugel | I guess not since it's a really simple one |
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| 00:46:55 | JdGordon| | so just to be annoying/pedantic.... there are now 3 targets mentinos in the Stable ports section as "(not X series/model) that are in the lesser two groups.... |
| 00:47:07 | JdGordon| | beast, AMS sansa, nano2g |
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| 00:51:37 | kugel | JdGordon|: technically correct since those are not in the stable ;) |
| 00:52:28 | JdGordon| | yes, well those ()'s should all be removed imo |
| 00:52:35 | kugel | We should rather add a similar note for all stable ipods next to the nano2g :D |
| 00:53:05 | kugel | or just remove those, yes, pretty pointless to keep them |
| 00:53:08 | JdGordon| | or a big fat "IF ITS NOT MENITONED IN ANY OF THESE GROUPS, ITS NOT FUCKING SUPORTED IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM" |
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| 01:01:42 | kugel | just out of curiosity, because it doesn't make a difference for the small dim (just has a width and height member) struct anyway, but I want to check if two of them are equal. would memcmp faster or slower? |
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| 01:03:19 | amiconn | Afaik gcc uses memcmp for comparing larger structs |
| 01:03:20 | kugel | our memcmp is optimized for multiple of long sized, long aligned locations |
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| 01:04:08 | amiconn | ...same way as it uses memcpy for copying them |
| 01:04:53 | kugel | amiconn: how does that work? there's syntactically no way to compare structs |
| 01:05:00 | amiconn | memcmp is one of the four functions a freestanding environment has to provide |
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| 01:06:06 | amiconn | Hmm, right |
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| 01:07:11 | amiconn | But gcc may use memcmp calls itself, not sure what for |
| 01:07:32 | kugel | it would be dangerious, because of padding gaps, but in this case I would know there's none |
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| 01:30:09 | TheSeven | [48667.264041] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 |
| 01:30:11 | TheSeven | [48667.388037] usb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71 |
| 01:30:13 | TheSeven | [48667.612036] usb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71 |
| 01:30:15 | TheSeven | [48667.828037] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4 |
| 01:30:16 | TheSeven | [48668.003065] usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice |
| 01:30:17 | TheSeven | [48668.063320] scsi44 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices |
| 01:30:19 | TheSeven | [48668.065092] usb-storage: device found at 4 |
| 01:30:21 | TheSeven | [48668.065097] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning |
| 01:30:23 | TheSeven | [48673.066133] usb-storage: device scan complete |
| 01:30:24 | TheSeven | [48673.176042] usb 2-1: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4 |
| 01:30:26 | TheSeven | [48673.504038] usb 2-1: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4 |
| 01:30:27 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK TheSeven |
| 01:30:27 | TheSeven | [48673.832037] usb 2-1: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4 |
| 01:30:29 | TheSeven | [48674.152041] usb 2-1: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4 |
| 01:30:31 | TheSeven | (sorry, couldn't refrain from posting this :-P ) |
| 01:30:36 | TheSeven | still far away from being perfect, but yeah, it was identified as being mass storage! |
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| 01:31:59 | sansauser | hey again guys |
| 01:32:14 | sansauser | seems my e200 is completely dead yeah, no manufacturing mode no nothin |
| 01:32:47 | amiconn | TheSeven: Any reason this isn't using high speed? |
| 01:33:02 | TheSeven | yes, the host doesn't support it :-/ |
| 01:33:26 | amiconn | Such hosts still exist these days? |
| 01:33:35 | TheSeven | well, it's not *that* old |
| 01:33:41 | TheSeven | an old P4 2GHz machine |
| 01:35:13 | sansauser | all i get is blue light, nothing else, it isnt detected by the pc at all |
| 01:36:41 | sansauser | tried to reseat the nand, no diff |
| 01:38:28 | sansauser | any tips? |
| 01:38:43 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 01:38:43 | * | TheSeven suspects that it's CONTROL reqs working, but not BULK |
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| 01:42:42 | mc2739 | sansauser: have you tried everything here: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaE200Unbrick |
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| 01:45:11 | sansauser | well, booting original formware doesnt work, recovery mode doesnt work, and manufacture mode doesnt work, so i guess ive tried everything on that page |
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| 01:46:16 | * | TheSeven wonders what all these %W%s are |
| 01:47:38 | * | sansauser guesses they should be formatted W's warning signs? |
| 01:47:45 | sansauser | bold or italic, i dunno |
| 01:48:29 | mc2739 | TheSeven: it's a shortcut for a warning icon from the old wiki system |
| 01:49:00 | kugel | Unhelpful: struct dim works nicely |
| 01:49:41 | amiconn | %W% should be replaced with %X% now |
| 01:50:01 | amiconn | It used to be an alternate shortcut for the warning icon |
| 01:50:03 | kugel | sansauser: I doubt manufacturing mode doesn't work |
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| 01:50:13 | sansauser | well |
| 01:50:23 | sansauser | i do as it says, and my pc doesnt see a new device |
| 01:50:27 | kugel | it's phsiycally broken if it doesn't |
| 01:50:40 | sansauser | well then i guess thats my problem |
| 01:50:43 | kugel | sansauser: well, that message doesn't come in that mode |
| 01:51:00 | kugel | you need linux and e200tool to operate in that mode |
| 01:51:18 | sansauser | o rly, so windows wouldnt detect anything at al? |
| 01:51:30 | sansauser | not in device manager even |
| 01:51:32 | kugel | it does, but it doesn't let you know |
| 01:51:59 | sansauser | id atleast expect to see an "unknown device |
| 01:52:07 | sansauser | but ok, ill check in linux |
| 01:52:08 | sansauser | brb |
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| 01:52:25 | kugel | sansauser: linux won't tell you either, not in an obvious way at least |
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| 01:52:53 | kugel | dmesg will probably show something, but if you run e200tool it will definitely see it |
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| 01:58:36 | sansauser | ok back |
| 01:58:46 | sansauser | lsusb and dmesg doesnt show it either, in any mode |
| 01:58:57 | sansauser | so its physically broken then |
| 01:59:25 | sansauser | there wouldnt happen to be a shop that specifically sells used e200's? .p |
| 01:59:26 | sansauser | :P |
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| 02:00:00 | sansauser | if my nand isnt broken, but something on the mainboard, would it be transferable to say, a 2g version, my nand should be 6g |
| 02:00:07 | sansauser | 2gb* 6gb* |
| 02:00:59 | TheSeven | sansauser: you did power it off, turn on lock, hold the center button, and then, while holding it, insert USB? |
| 02:01:07 | TheSeven | can you even still turn it off? |
| 02:01:15 | sansauser | well, uh |
| 02:01:34 | sansauser | currently tha battery isnt even in, so it gets power when the usb is plugged in |
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| 02:01:58 | TheSeven | ok, good (me didn't even know these things had a removable battery) |
| 02:02:06 | sansauser | haha |
| 02:02:17 | sansauser | just remove the back plate solid metal |
| 02:02:26 | * | TheSeven has no idea about sansas |
| 02:02:52 | sansauser | but yes, if i have the battery inserted i can power it off by holding the powerbutton for about 12 secs |
| 02:03:10 | TheSeven | so you did try with the center button instead of the record one, and lsusb still doesn't show anything? |
| 02:03:18 | sansauser | yes |
| 02:03:26 | krazykit | yes, you can transfer the nand daughterboard between motherboards just fine |
| 02:03:27 | TheSeven | that's not good at all. |
| 02:05:36 | sansauser | krazykit: ill keep the stuff and then buy a new one if i see one then |
| 02:06:08 | TheSeven | another question: what did you do to it to make that happen? |
| 02:06:50 | sansauser | to make it this broken? |
| 02:06:55 | TheSeven | yes |
| 02:06:56 | sansauser | well |
| 02:07:09 | sansauser | when it was pretty new, the headphone jack went loose |
| 02:07:29 | sansauser | warranty nerds said it was general usage damage and refused to replace it |
| 02:07:37 | sansauser | so i opened the bitch up, and saw this |
| 02:07:50 | sansauser | one of the channels pads had come of the motheboard |
| 02:08:26 | sansauser | soldered cable from the capacitor to the headphone jack and my sound was back |
| 02:08:49 | sansauser | a while later the contacts at the motherboard for the batteries, (the solder pads) broke |
| 02:08:54 | sansauser | some solder fixed that too |
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| 02:09:07 | sansauser | then for some reason i got black screens now and then |
| 02:09:13 | sansauser | a few months afterwards |
| 02:09:33 | sansauser | giving it light taps on the screen while booting often fixed it, so i didnt bother |
| 02:09:43 | sansauser | and then suddenly it wouldnt boot up at all |
| 02:10:00 | sansauser | and thats the rough life of my sansa e280 :) |
| 02:10:03 | sansauser | 6gb model |
| 02:10:19 | sansauser | cost like 200€ when it was new |
| 02:10:26 | sansauser | several years ago |
| 02:10:34 | sansauser | so its served its purpose i guess |
| 02:10:47 | sansauser | since im an apple hater |
| 02:11:01 | sansauser | im also a firefox hater, i still use ff on linux though |
| 02:11:11 | sansauser | but on win7, ie8 and chrome |
| 02:11:34 | sansauser | well, ill suffice with a C120 for now |
| 02:11:45 | sansauser | hope i can rockbox it in near future |
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| 02:16:33 | Unhelpful | kugel: what, dim_set_width(struct dim * dim, int width) or such? |
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| 02:17:36 | kugel | Unhelpful: no, I rather thought of comparing two dims, but it's too simple to worry about :) |
| 02:17:45 | kugel | or validating against screen dimensions |
| 02:21:31 | kugel | Unhelpful: dim works nicely, I can drop the entire function that was passed and the width/height members of struct skin_albumart and pass the dim pointer around |
| 02:22:10 | kugel | and even easily check whether a slot that wants the same dimensions exists already |
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| 02:26:29 | * | TheSeven really needs to go to bed |
| 02:26:47 | TheSeven | I wrote debugf instead of logf and wondered why that didn't work :-P |
| 02:29:20 | * | TheSeven now wonders how an endpoint can be enabled and disabled at the same time |
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| 02:33:17 | * | TheSeven is too tired to concentrate and/or work efficiently, so he'll treat this as a partial success for today, and go to bed now |
| 02:36:17 | Unhelpful | kugel: it might be worth replacing the struct with a union of an int and an anon struct... then you could still address width and height readily, but you could also compare dim1.whole to dim2.whole... |
| 02:37:00 | kugel | just for saving .dim? |
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| 02:38:04 | Unhelpful | kugel: it would make comparison of two dims easier, and you could also very easily check for a "null" dim. |
| 02:38:39 | kugel | isn't that a bit risky with regards to 64bit plattforms? |
| 02:39:36 | kugel | I just see the dimensions are shorts, why is that? |
| 02:40:05 | robin0800 | found a new? format mode on my c240 with unit off set hold on, hold play and power on device can someone confirm this before I add it to the wiki |
| 02:40:07 | Unhelpful | kugel: it needn't be. union { uint32_t whole; struct { uint16_t width; uint16_t height; }; } dim; :) |
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| 02:40:39 | Unhelpful | i don't know why they're shorts, aside from it will never really be reasonable to deal with dimensions >2^15 ;) |
| 02:42:07 | kugel | it doesn't really save noticeable ram, does it? iiuc working with the naitive format is generally a tad bit faster |
| 02:42:36 | kugel | I don't feel like obfuscating the code with that magic |
| 02:44:16 | Unhelpful | "native" format won't be any faster here, accessing both members is probably two loads from memory either way |
| 02:45:24 | kugel | I wonder if gcc is able to optimize it to load it with 1 fetch, then masking it |
| 02:46:30 | kugel | ironically I just changed x and y (and width, height too in that run) of skin_albumart to use ints to make it work with parse_list, now I'm changing it back |
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| 03:39:46 | ruckus1 | hey folks! would this be a good place to suggest ideas? |
| 03:40:41 | Strife89 | ruckus1: I think so, but Feature Ideas on the forums is also a good place. |
| 03:40:56 | ruckus1 | well this is really simple |
| 03:41:02 | ruckus1 | (or so I hope) |
| 03:41:18 | Strife89 | Go for it. :) |
| 03:42:11 | ruckus1 | i use the metronome plug in a lot, but I have my rockbox configured to shut down 2 minutes after I unplug my headphones. well this doesn't happen then the metronome plug in is running. it's been couple of times when I discovered the thing has been running all night |
| 03:42:28 | ruckus1 | do I make sense? |
| 03:42:40 | Dgby714 | yes |
| 03:43:07 | Strife89 | You want a cutoff timer for the Metronome? |
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| 03:43:13 | Dgby714 | you accedently leave teh metronome plugin running and the device dosnt go off |
| 03:43:20 | ruckus1 | yes |
| 03:43:38 | ruckus1 | Dgby714: the "yes" was for you |
| 03:43:44 | ruckus1 | :) |
| 03:44:16 | Strife89 | ruckus1: If it's not a cutoff timer you want, I don't know what it is that you do. :) |
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| 03:44:52 | sht | howdy folks |
| 03:45:39 | ruckus1 | Strife89: i am not quite sure what you mean by "cutoff timer" |
| 03:46:17 | Strife89 | ruckus1: What I mean is, are you asking for an optional timer that will quit the Metronome plugin after a set amount of time? |
| 03:46:22 | sht | so I need some help |
| 03:46:40 | Dgby714 | i think he wants a build of rockbox with "rb->reset_poweroff_timer();" commented out in teh metronome app |
| 03:46:50 | sht | just, you know, throwing that out there |
| 03:47:06 | Dgby714 | sht, just ask and read the guidlines. |
| 03:47:30 | sht | ok |
| 03:47:46 | sht | I've got a 5g 30 gb ipod |
| 03:47:59 | sht | trying to install rockbox on vista |
| 03:48:17 | sht | gettin the "no ipod detected" error |
| 03:48:32 | Dgby714 | Running as Administrator? |
| 03:48:59 | sht | ah, I have to run the util as admin? |
| 03:49:13 | Dgby714 | i think you do =) |
| 03:49:32 | sht | hm, just tried it |
| 03:49:34 | sht | still no dice |
| 03:49:41 | Dgby714 | hmm |
| 03:49:42 | Strife89 | Dgby714: The problem with that idea is, I suspect a lot of users have the idle shutdown time set at 10 minutes. Most people who need a metronome use it for longer than 10 minutes at a time. |
| 03:49:56 | sht | I put the ipod in disk mode |
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| 03:50:05 | sht | should it not be? |
| 03:50:38 | ruckus1 | Strife89: but i want the plugin to follow my configuration of rockbox and shutdown after i've unplugged my headphones for 2 minutes |
| 03:51:07 | ruckus1 | Strife89: you know what I mean? |
| 03:51:16 | Strife89 | ruckus1: Yep, I do now. :) |
| 03:51:34 | Dgby714 | ruckus1: you'll have to ether compile yourself or find someone to compile for you with line 841 of apps/plugins/metronome.c commented |
| 03:51:43 | ruckus1 | so "2" was only a number i threw there |
| 03:52:24 | ruckus1 | this cannot be included in an official release?! |
| 03:53:17 | sht | nope, that fails too |
| 03:53:46 | Strife89 | ruckus1: It could, if you made a patch, and that patch was of good quality. |
| 03:54:05 | ruckus1 | Strife89: :( if I could only code! |
| 03:54:16 | Strife89 | ruckus1: Or if you stirred up someone to do it in your stead. :) |
| 03:54:22 | ruckus1 | lol |
| 03:54:26 | Strife89 | ruckus1: Alas, I can't code either. :( |
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| 03:54:46 | ruckus1 | ok, i'll just post this on the forums, and maybe somebody will feel harassed enough to do it |
| 03:54:52 | ruckus1 | :) |
| 03:54:54 | Dgby714 | same, but im learning |
| 03:55:06 | sht | maybe I should do the same... |
| 03:55:09 | Strife89 | ruckus1: Harassing in the most literal sense will get you nowhere. :) |
| 03:55:23 | Dgby714 | lol |
| 03:55:23 | ruckus1 | i am not a literal person |
| 03:55:26 | Strife89 | ruckus1: Try to appeal to another's interests. :) |
| 03:55:40 | ruckus1 | i think harassing can be quite charming, if done right |
| 03:55:43 | ruckus1 | :) |
| 03:55:46 | Strife89 | :) |
| 03:56:10 | Strife89 | Whatever you do, give it your best shot, and good luck. :) |
| 03:56:35 | Dgby714 | sht: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1353#ipodfifth <−− that is your ipod? |
| 03:56:36 | ruckus1 | lol cool |
| 03:56:46 | sht | ipodcatcher.exe does the same thing |
| 03:57:35 | sht | yup, that's it |
| 03:57:38 | sht | the white one |
| 03:58:23 | Dgby714 | hmmm |
| 03:58:34 | sht | it's mounted and everything |
| 03:59:06 | sht | maybe I should try in xbuntu on my other box |
| 03:59:10 | * | Dgby714 knows nothing about the 5 gen as he has a 2nd gen nano >.< |
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| 04:06:45 | sht | ok, I'll try again another time. somebody else must have run into this before. |
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| 04:26:56 | sht | looked at the about > system info |
| 04:27:13 | sht | the ipod shows as mounted at drive F: |
| 04:27:20 | sht | but no usb devices detected |
| 04:27:26 | sht | running as admin |
| 04:27:55 | sht | I'm stymied |
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| 06:41:51 | FlynDice | funman: re FS #10669 Is your intent with the HAVE_MULTIDRIVE to cut out that code from the clip? |
| 06:45:37 | funman | yes, because the clip has no µSD and this code is only needed for targets with µSD slots |
| 06:47:22 | FlynDice | OK, that makes sense I'm looking for 13.5 hrs here, should we start a lottery ;) |
| 06:48:04 | funman | if card_detect_target() returns false perhaps the code is optimized away by gcc, but i think it also makes the code clearer |
| 06:48:04 | funman | FlynDice: hmm 1 internet to win for the first to beat the OF battery life ;) |
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| 06:49:00 | funman | FlynDice: why don't you want to put that code under #ifdef HAVE_MULTIDRIVE ? |
| 06:49:22 | FlynDice | sorry , don't know the lingo, what's an internet worth..? surely that must be at least a case of beer! |
| 06:49:59 | funman | I'll define the currency when we know the winner, that'll make more beer for me and less for you ;) |
| 06:50:15 | Dgby714 | lol |
| 06:51:02 | FlynDice | I get lost in all the #ifdefs as it is! I don't know what's better, but both work and I will surely defer to experience... |
| 06:57:44 | stooj | Is it possible to edit id3 tags within rockbox? |
| 06:58:22 | funman | FlynDice: the different defines are a bit confusing, I think it really should be HOTSWAP |
| 06:58:36 | funman | stooj: not that I know, have you read the manual ? |
| 06:59:18 | stooj | Just reading through it just now, funman |
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| 07:17:42 | funman | saratoga: I just found something about the memmove() calls in buffering.c , they can be harmful if the buffer is not much larger than the largest data we have to move (which can be big for buffered codecs) |
| 07:18:41 | funman | FlynDice: is FS #10308 still needed? |
| 07:19:14 | funman | and FS #10507 (i'm looking at AMS related tasks) |
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| 07:47:37 | Sharn | Hey guys... stupid little question... i'm running rockbox on a cowon d2 from an sd card, and i can't figure out how to use the save file dialogs (fm presets, images, etc), i can type, but how do i enter? |
| 07:50:21 | gitster | Could somebody please apply FS #10673? |
| 07:55:44 | funman | Sharn: looks like "enter" is not implemented on D2 keymap |
| 07:55:56 | Sharn | oh, awesome |
| 07:57:05 | funman | check apps/keymap/keymap-cowond2.c (look for _keyboard) |
| 07:57:47 | pixelma | Sharn: try long press in the center |
| 07:58:18 | Sharn | pixelma: will do when i get a second |
| 07:58:26 | pixelma | funman: the D2 is a touchscreen target so the generic touchscreen keymap should apply too, no? |
| 07:59:10 | funman | ah I didn't know it was a touchscreen (and don't know how touchscreen keymaps work) |
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| 08:02:46 | pixelma | it just has some additional hardware buttons which can be used |
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| 08:11:06 | Sharn | pixelma: awesome, long press works. thanks a ton :) |
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| 08:29:08 | Zagor | domonoky: good question |
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| 08:39:37 | amiconn | funman, FlynDice: Both #defines have their own meaning. Ideally the code should be ifdefed so that you can disable either and still be able to build |
| 08:40:13 | amiconn | Or rather, HAVE_MULTIDRIVE should work without HAVE_HOTSWAP, the reverse doesn't make sense |
| 08:41:47 | amiconn | HAVE_MULTIDRIVE enables support for more than one drive. Without HAVE_HOTSWAP this means it would detect and use a µSD card plugged in at boot, but not detect plugin or removal of cards |
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| 09:22:03 | n1s | wow, a button combo to reformat the drive, the beast sure is crazy |
| 09:27:06 | pixelma | the beast? |
| 09:28:28 | pixelma | thought it was the c200 - and then I wouldn't announce it loudly as it seems the OF's reformat can leave it in an unusable state (hence gevaerts' eraser tool) |
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| 09:46:03 | n1s | pixelma: i was reffering to Torne's latest addition to GigabeatSOriginalLoader didn't know the c200 could do this too but formatting both partitions on the beast will also make it unusable untill you install a firmware again so it seems very stupid to me :) |
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| 09:50:51 | TheSeven | gevaerts: what does to usb core call in the driver to un-stall and thus set DATA0 PID on an endpoint? |
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| 09:57:55 | TheSeven | gevaerts: what the USB core is doing seems to be entirely nonsense to me |
| 09:58:36 | TheSeven | it's re-requesting endpoints after each and every GET_DESCRIPTOR request, but not after SET_CONFIGURATION |
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| 10:11:05 | funman | pyro_maniac: do you know which YH920 model lowlight has ? (napster or another one). The batteries could be different between those |
| 10:12:07 | TheSeven | WTF |
| 10:12:39 | TheSeven | usb_drv_send is called with 0 for EP0 but 0x81 for EP1 as an argument!? |
| 10:13:43 | funman | bit 7 is a mask ? |
| 10:13:48 | TheSeven | yes |
| 10:14:13 | TheSeven | it means that it's an IN endpoint. but the standard control pipe also is one! |
| 10:15:57 | TheSeven | http://pastie.org/655755 |
| 10:16:06 | TheSeven | wow... but... What the hell!? |
| 10:16:21 | TheSeven | "Unsupported sector size 136166816"!? |
| 10:17:49 | * | funman bets it's not a Linux bug |
| 10:20:41 | CIA-85 | New commit by dave (r23181): Add Nano2G to the manual download page |
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| 10:21:01 | linuxstb | Zagor: Can you update www? |
| 10:21:15 | Zagor | done |
| 10:21:23 | linuxstb | Thanks |
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| 10:22:32 | linuxstb | Zagor: The "old" pages (linked from daily.shtml) look slightly broken (a Content-type: header in the middle of the page) - e.g. http://www.rockbox.org/dl.cgi?bin=recorder |
| 10:22:53 | Zagor | oh |
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| 10:31:07 | briant | I can't seem to find anything? |
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| 10:57:48 | TheSeven | [ 5996.806231] sd 24:0:0:0: [sdc] 3964928 2048-byte logical blocks: (8.12 GB/7.56 GiB) |
| 10:57:50 | TheSeven | [ 5996.811171] sd 24:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through |
| 10:57:51 | TheSeven | [ 5996.811194] sd 24:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk |
| 10:57:53 | TheSeven | theseven@rockbox-dev:~/rockbox-trunk/build/nano2-app$ sudo mount /dev/sdc2 /mnt |
| 10:57:54 | TheSeven | theseven@rockbox-dev:~/rockbox-trunk/build/nano2-app$ ls /mnt |
| 10:57:56 | TheSeven | battery_bench.txt iLoader Musik |
| 10:57:57 | TheSeven | theseven@rockbox-dev:~/rockbox-trunk/build/nano2-app$ |
| 10:58:01 | gevaerts | TheSeven: it should stop doing that after SET_ADDRESS. Are you sure you don't have weird bus resets anymore? |
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| 10:58:22 | funman | TheSeven: nice! |
| 10:58:35 | * | gevaerts warns TheSeven about those pastes now that logbot is op again |
| 10:58:46 | gevaerts | and yes, congratulations! |
| 10:59:07 | * | funman looks again at USB code for Sansa AMS and notices freezes |
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| 11:00:09 | TheSeven | hmm, there's still something wrong. i can access the disk fine, but unmounting locks up? |
| 11:00:40 | gevaerts | unmounting means mounting again in rockbox |
| 11:00:55 | TheSeven | no, the umount command on the hosts locks up |
| 11:01:12 | gevaerts | ah, interesting |
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| 11:01:25 | TheSeven | some io error stuff in the syslog |
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| 11:01:57 | TheSeven | looks like there is trouble with writes in general |
| 11:03:44 | NHeal | verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
| 11:03:44 | NJoin | rasher [0] (n=rasher@0x5550f5a3.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 11:04:31 | Torne | n1s: Yeah, the beast is just a pile of laughs. |
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| 11:05:03 | Torne | n1s: the button handling code in the bootloader is also buggy; if i interpret the bug correctly, then it doesn't notice you letting go of keys |
| 11:05:19 | pyro_maniac | funman: as far as i know, lowlight only got a yh820 |
| 11:05:26 | Torne | which means that if you press the reformat combination and let go it still reformats anyway :) |
| 11:05:47 | funman | pyro_maniac: i think he got a yh920 to work on sound output |
| 11:06:19 | pyro_maniac | no he asked other people to test his changes |
| 11:07:30 | pyro_maniac | how could i find out that battery difference? i got both versions |
| 11:08:15 | funman | pyro_maniac: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20090902#22:08:41 |
| 11:08:38 | TheSeven | gevaerts: do you know what an ECONNRESET (Connection reset by peer, -104) is in linux USB terms? A stall? |
| 11:08:41 | funman | You could compare 2 runs of battery_bench |
| 11:08:56 | gevaerts | never seen that |
| 11:09:42 | pyro_maniac | funman: oh i missed that. but he really told me, that he has none some time ago |
| 11:10:01 | funman | I've found in the OF where the ADC_* registers are stored in a structure, but not where they are used. I hope low_light comes back with the formula for voltage calculation |
| 11:10:15 | pyro_maniac | i will make a battery bench as soon as possible |
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| 11:14:23 | n1s | Torne: i still love the "random" reformat bug best though :) |
| 11:14:35 | Torne | well that's what i'm trying to get to the bottom of :) |
| 11:14:44 | Torne | but in the process i'm discovering all kinds of hilarity |
| 11:14:51 | pyro_maniac | funman: did you test radio too? |
| 11:15:03 | funman | yep |
| 11:15:40 | pyro_maniac | my "yepp" YH920 has no FM in OF but there it works too :-) |
| 11:16:16 | pyro_maniac | is that patch really that hacky as lowlight said? |
| 11:16:46 | funman | I think it disables sound when playing files |
| 11:17:27 | pyro_maniac | its a pitty that it depends that much on lowlight |
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| 11:26:50 | briant | I've searched and searched - what can I use lua for? |
| 11:27:16 | briant | maybe it's some kind of inside joke or something? |
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| 11:27:53 | linuxstb | briant: You can do most things in lua that any other rockbox plugin can do. |
| 11:28:06 | briant | like what? |
| 11:28:46 | funman | display things, read buttons |
| 11:28:53 | briant | i'd like to read just the text from a html file without the tags - can I do that? |
| 11:29:08 | briant | like sed stuff |
| 11:29:11 | funman | sure |
| 11:29:28 | linuxstb | There's no regexp library though... |
| 11:29:50 | linuxstb | (afaik...) |
| 11:29:54 | briant | oh, thats not very helpful, then is it? |
| 11:30:53 | briant | the amount of things this player can do is awesome, thanks to rockbox! |
| 11:31:11 | briant | I'm just checking out what else I could do. |
| 11:32:10 | briant | I just don't see much purpose in lua? |
| 11:32:34 | linuxstb | There's not much purpose in a lot of Rockbox... But it scratches at least one person's itch. |
| 11:32:51 | funman | well you can write plugins in lua, so you can choose between C and Lua at least |
| 11:33:19 | TheSeven | what about porting python to rockbox? :-P |
| 11:33:21 | linuxstb | briant: http://www.lua.org/pil/20.1.html may be useful to you. |
| 11:33:57 | Torne | TheSeven: i was gonna do that at some point if i ran out of other things ;) |
| 11:34:05 | funman | TheSeven: well, first finish the nano2g port before thinking about it ;) |
| 11:34:12 | briant | nice! I'll bookmark.. |
| 11:34:45 | TheSeven | ... and the classic port, and the nano4g port, and the cowon issues, and then somebody wil have a sansa for me to look into for sure :-P |
| 11:34:54 | TheSeven | will* |
| 11:35:04 | * | funman already has a lot of sansas for TheSeven to look into |
| 11:35:18 | briant | I get some nice books and other info from the web and send them through sed to stip stuff- works good. |
| 11:35:44 | gevaerts | Torne: that's in about 300 years, right? :) |
| 11:35:59 | Torne | yeah i dunno if i'd ever 8get* there :) |
| 11:36:46 | briant | I love the new bootloader and the fact I can get right to my 8G mSD! |
| 11:36:52 | funman | gevaerts: what would be the event which would cause a call to usb_enable(false) on Sansa AMS with #define USE_ROCKBOX_USB ? I can't tell from usb.c |
| 11:37:14 | topik_ | want a sansa clip+ to play with, TheSeven? i'd be happy to send you one :) |
| 11:37:58 | funman | gevaerts: i suppose usb_detect() returning USB_EXTRACTED ? |
| 11:38:05 | TheSeven | if /me doesn't watch out, he'll soon have a tower of rockbox on his desk waiting for him to look at them |
| 11:38:06 | gevaerts | funman: probably, yes |
| 11:40:16 | briant | has anyone written a plugin in lua that I could use as an example, besides hello world? |
| 11:41:32 | TheSeven | gevaerts: Am I right with the assumption that if I get a SCSI write CBW with DATA0 PID, the following DATA OUT stage will have a DATA1 PID? |
| 11:41:59 | * | gevaerts doesn't know off-hand |
| 11:42:39 | TheSeven | I'm getting no interrupt on that data out stage on the ipod side, and on the PC I get a EILSEQ (Illegal byte sequence, -84) |
| 11:42:57 | funman | briant: test_viewports.lua |
| 11:42:58 | * | TheSeven loves this error code reuse nonsense |
| 11:45:48 | briant | oh, now I see it, thanks! |
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| 11:58:39 | liar|school | linuxstb: do you remember that bug i told you some days ago? just to try i checked out r23083 again and there i am not haveing this bug, but in the current svn it is still present |
| 11:59:12 | TheSeven | liar|school: which one? |
| 11:59:35 | liar|school | TheSeven: in the filebrowser |
| 11:59:58 | * | TheSeven can't reproduce that |
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| 12:00:02 | liar|school | TheSeven: i cant switch into a subdirectory by pressing forward because it does something strange |
| 12:02:08 | linuxstb | liar|school: Are you saying that "select" (centre button) and "forward" act differently? |
| 12:03:23 | CIA-85 | New commit by funman (r23184): Sansa AMS USB driver : still not working ... |
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| 12:03:29 | liar|school | yes |
| 12:03:47 | liar|school | but forward does somthing strange in addition |
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| 12:04:57 | linuxstb | liar|school: So when you press forward, you go into the directory, and then the first item in that directory is selected? |
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| 12:05:56 | liar|school | if i press forward it just selects the first item in the current directory |
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| 12:07:39 | linuxstb | But if you press select, it selects the item you're highlighting? |
| 12:08:21 | liar|school | if i press select it switches into the selected directory |
| 12:08:48 | Torne | is anyone actually sure that the cacheline size on pp502x is 16 bytes? |
| 12:09:24 | liar|school | and if i press backward to go back to the previous directory it shows sometimes an empty list even if the directory isnt empty |
| 12:09:27 | Torne | i suggested that nugged from the forums try DMA with 32-byte alignment only to see if that works better and it doesn't crash for him any more :) |
| 12:10:23 | linuxstb | liar|school: Just to be clear, if you're in a directory that has 5 subdirectories, and you use the wheel to highlight the third one, then if you press select, you enter the third directory, but if you press forward, you enter the first one? |
| 12:10:23 | funman | you could check if uncached addresses in the OF are aligned on 16 or 32 |
| 12:11:35 | Torne | i have no idea where to look, alas |
| 12:11:43 | Torne | i haven't looked at the ipod firmware yet |
| 12:11:43 | liar|school | no if i press forward it just highlights the first item in the list(sorry i have mistaken some english words before) |
| 12:12:41 | liar|school | so if i press forward i am still in the same directory but instead of the third, the first item is highlighted |
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| 12:13:22 | linuxstb | liar|school: And this is Rockbox downloaded from the Rockbox website, or a version you compiled yourself? |
| 12:14:23 | liar|school | linuxstb: its build from svn, but ill can try the version from the homepage |
| 12:14:45 | linuxstb | Torne: I don't think we can be sure about anything regarding the PP - everything has been found by experimentation/RE... |
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| 12:15:29 | linuxstb | liar|school: Yes, please try an official build. |
| 12:16:01 | * | linuxstb can't imagine what could cause that behaviour, unless there are local patches still applied |
| 12:20:36 | liar|school | linuxstb: same bug |
| 12:23:21 | CIA-85 | New commit by funman (r23185): Sansa Fuze & e200v2 : do not enable USBSTACK in the bootloader ... |
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| 12:26:31 | Torne | linuxstb: indeed. |
| 12:27:12 | Torne | linuxstb: it's tremendously hard to tell whether dma is causing problems or not |
| 12:27:12 | Torne | because cacheline interference is subtle and may not happen at all simply by fluke |
| 12:27:35 | Torne | the only thing i can think of to actually test it in a remotely controlled manner would be to add a setting for it |
| 12:27:44 | Torne | so you can turn it off without changing to a new build, and see if problems go away |
| 12:27:44 | linuxstb | liar|school: Can you try different SVN revisions, and see if you can see which one changed the behaviour? |
| 12:29:22 | liar|school | is there an easy way to update from a revision to another without checking out everything? |
| 12:29:46 | Torne | svn up -r 12345 |
| 12:29:53 | Torne | changes a checkout to be revision 12345 |
| 12:29:59 | liar|school | thanks |
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| 12:44:36 | linuxstb | liar|school: Are you sure you have no local changes? i.e. what does typing "svn status" in the rockbox directory show? |
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| 12:59:42 | rvvs89 | I've been working on rewriting OpenLiero in C for various frontends on iPodLinux using the hotdog library for fast compositing on the iPod. Now I'm also considering adapting it as a Rockbox plugin, so I have a few questions. |
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| 13:00:21 | rvvs89 | Does rockbox have some kind of compositing API beyond what I've seen in the plugin header file, and does it support transparency? |
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| 13:01:34 | funman | there is something wrong with the build table/clients : it's been building r23185 for ~40 minutes |
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| 13:02:16 | rvvs89 | Also, how many targets does a plugin generally have to support before it's accepted into the repository? |
| 13:02:43 | funman | rvvs89: all targets, except where hardware limitations apply |
| 13:03:35 | gevaerts | funman: the devcon2008 decision was that lack of target support was no reason to not commit |
| 13:04:02 | rvvs89 | What kind of range of memory is available for a plugin to occupy? |
| 13:04:27 | rvvs89 | The lower bound rather |
| 13:04:37 | funman | rvvs89: 512kB I think, but you can allocate a bit more if possible |
| 13:05:03 | gevaerts | lower bound? 32K :) |
| 13:05:12 | TheSeven | funman: isn't 512kB the upper bound? :-P |
| 13:05:25 | rvvs89 | I see :O |
| 13:05:34 | TheSeven | gevaerts: what's the worst target concerning that? |
| 13:05:40 | gevaerts | TheSeven: the archoses |
| 13:05:58 | gevaerts | seriously though, if you stop playback, you can get all memory minus one or two megabytes |
| 13:06:18 | TheSeven | ... which may be less a megabyte? |
| 13:06:22 | rvvs89 | Though I understand this is not ideal behavior |
| 13:06:38 | funman | on Clip, all memory minus two megabytes is 0 |
| 13:06:40 | liar|school | linuxstb: i tried it with the build from the homepage, how could that include local changes? |
| 13:07:11 | TheSeven | liar|school: local changes to your ipod's FS :-P |
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| 13:07:38 | TheSeven | have you wiped away the whole .rockbox folder before unpacking the official zip? |
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| 13:07:55 | liar|school | yes |
| 13:07:59 | liar|school | i even restored my ipod |
| 13:08:08 | TheSeven | now that's really funny then. |
| 13:09:03 | rvvs89 | Is this 32kb-512kb of plugin memory allocated when rockbox starts or when the plugin starts? |
| 13:09:09 | TheSeven | funman: but on the clip it's 2MB - 700kB, so there is still some room |
| 13:09:14 | liar|school | the database doesnt work too |
| 13:09:19 | TheSeven | rvvs89: when rockbox starts |
| 13:09:20 | linuxstb | liar|school: Good point! (sorry - I'm busy doing other things, so forgot that you said an official build also gave the same problem...) |
| 13:09:46 | TheSeven | and you can steal memory from the audio buffer if you stop playback (which may be up to 30MB on some targets) |
| 13:10:04 | rvvs89 | Right, so I see the main challenge will be supporting the Archos targets |
| 13:10:11 | funman | rvvs89: this is statically allocated memory which is reserved for plugins (plugin won't link if it's too big) |
| 13:10:42 | rvvs89 | I had considered storing game sprites in statically allocated arrays in the plugin, but that may not be possible |
| 13:10:45 | funman | rvvs89: you can decide not to support those though, and build your plugin only if enough memory is available |
| 13:10:48 | gevaerts | rvvs89: if I tell you that those run at 11MHz or 12MHz, and have a monochrome screen, do you still care? |
| 13:11:23 | rvvs89 | gevaerts: I think I can still make it work with a monochrome screen, albeit not as well as greyscale or 16bit colour. |
| 13:11:40 | n1s | TheSeven: it may even be up to ~60megs |
| 13:11:54 | TheSeven | oh yes, forgot about the big ipod video |
| 13:12:00 | n1s | and the beast |
| 13:12:06 | rvvs89 | That's quite an exception though |
| 13:12:14 | rvvs89 | gevaerts: Then again, 11MHz... |
| 13:12:24 | linuxstb | rvvs89: Regarding "how many targets?", I think the important thing is that the plugin is written in a portable way, rather than the actual porting being done already. |
| 13:13:01 | rvvs89 | Understood. |
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| 13:13:55 | TheSeven | is there some list of target plugin buffer sizes, besides the linker script? |
| 13:14:30 | MHael | Hey, could someone test something out for me before I submit a bug? I just need to know whether this is player specific. |
| 13:14:36 | n1s | TheSeven: basically everything has 512kb except targets with very little memory |
| 13:14:49 | MHael | Play an audio file, then start the pitch_dtector plugin |
| 13:15:03 | n1s | archoses, sansa clip, the dead ifp7xx port |
| 13:15:39 | MHael | running at least release 3.4, and not on a Nano |
| 13:15:45 | linuxstb | rvvs89: Apart from the lcd functions in the plugin API (i.e. those offered by core rockbox), there are also some "xlcd" functions in the plugin lib - apps/plugins/lib/ But I doubt those are what you're looking for. |
| 13:15:53 | n1s | MHael: if it crashes it sounds like this bug http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10635 |
| 13:16:16 | linuxstb | rvvs89: But it sounds like your code could be useful to other plugins, and therefore putting it in the plugin lib. |
| 13:16:39 | MHael | Thanks, didn't find that one for some reason when I searched... |
| 13:16:46 | rvvs89 | linuxstb: Right, thanks. |
| 13:17:14 | rvvs89 | Do plugin libs occupy a part of that ~512kb? |
| 13:17:31 | linuxstb | Yes, the plugin lib is linked with each plugin |
| 13:17:41 | rvvs89 | Statically? |
| 13:17:50 | funman | is there a webpage which lists status of build in progress ? |
| 13:18:01 | linuxstb | rvvs89: Yes. |
| 13:18:15 | n1s | linuxstb: arent unused parts stripped |
| 13:18:17 | n1s | ? |
| 13:18:20 | linuxstb | n1s: Yes |
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| 13:20:56 | rvvs89 | Can I portably access the bitmap(s) of fonts? Excepting of course targets with character lcd screens. |
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| 13:21:27 | funman | there is only 1 target with character lcd screen : an archos with 12MHz CPU |
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| 13:22:10 | rvvs89 | Well then, across all non Archos targets, is there a portable way to access the font bitmaps? |
| 13:22:30 | TheSeven | btw are there any statistics on target popularity? i somehow doubt too many people are using the old archoses any more |
| 13:23:04 | funman | TheSeven: i don't think so but we could ask the swedes to check the download statistics |
| 13:23:38 | linuxstb | rvvs89: Currently there's only one internal format for fonts (they are 1bpp mono bitmaps). So portability isn't an issue. |
| 13:23:54 | rvvs89 | Cool, that should makes things easier. |
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| 13:25:55 | rvvs89 | Thanks for the assistance, I'll probably come back with more questions in a couple of weeks after semester ends. |
| 13:30:48 | linuxstb | TheSeven: Nothing published I think. Although Bagder occasionally gives us some download stats (but it's impossible to tell numbers accurately, as for example people could be building themselves, or using unofficial third-party builds). We also don't have logs at all for the download mirrors. |
| 13:31:27 | funman | It could be easy to ask the download stats for the videolan mirror (i believe it's the only mirror) |
| 13:35:28 | Zagor | no we have two mirrors |
| 13:35:47 | Zagor | positive-internet.com hosts the second |
| 13:36:02 | funman | I only see 2 IPs for download.rockbox.org |
| 13:36:22 | Zagor | yes, one is videolan the other is p-i |
| 13:36:49 | funman | oh i thought it was on haxx servers |
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| 13:37:20 | Zagor | no, download is mirrors only. |
| 13:37:48 | topik_ | i'm great at wrong assumptions but the majority surely won't compile themselves? |
| 13:37:55 | funman | Zagor: do you know why http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi is stuck on building r23185 ? |
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| 13:41:23 | linuxstb | Zagor: Do you have any idea about how many people/unique IPs/whatever access Rockbox SVN? |
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| 13:41:39 | Zagor | funman: aha, a build server bug: 12:26:30 Ending round due to lack of clients |
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| 13:41:54 | Zagor | but it doesn't run the end-of-round scripts when that happens |
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| 13:50:40 | * | TheSeven is running out of ideas again |
| 13:51:15 | TheSeven | now a hw usb sniffer would indeed be helpful to see who's at fault here |
| 13:51:35 | TheSeven | the ipod just receives only half of the data it should get |
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| 13:52:47 | Zagor | TheSeven: we have one |
| 13:52:50 | linuxstb | TheSeven: Rockbox has one, sadly it's in the US at the moment (I think...) |
| 13:53:42 | TheSeven | yes, but i'll probably have spotted the issue by the time it would arrive here |
| 13:55:04 | Zagor | linuxstb: no. we don't even log accesses to svn. |
| 13:56:11 | Zagor | all I know is it accounts for roughly 1 GB of data transfers per day |
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| 14:03:53 | CIA-85 | New commit by torne (r23186): Add myself to committers. HI! |
| 14:04:10 | Torne | bzr dpush to svn does work then |
| 14:04:19 | Torne | but now it has to rebase :( |
| 14:05:12 | Torne | ah that was relatively painless actually |
| 14:07:00 | gevaerts | Welcome! |
| 14:08:05 | Torne | thanks :) |
| 14:08:56 | TheSeven | gevaerts: can you think of any explanation for the usb controller just reading 1KB from the bus and then getting stuck, when the host writes 2KB? |
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| 14:09:18 | TheSeven | if I monitor the DMA counters, I can see it reading 2 times 512 bytes... but the host should send 4 of these packets? |
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| 14:10:14 | Torne | so the next question: will anyone object to rockbox version numbers which might look like r23165+bzr19377-091015 ? Is that too long? |
| 14:10:39 | Torne | tools/version.sh just adds M for git if the head is not a svn revision.. |
| 14:10:45 | Torne | but git commit thingies are pretty long |
| 14:11:04 | funman | Torne: how would bzrxxx be helpful when reporting a bug ? |
| 14:11:25 | Torne | not a huge amount |
| 14:11:34 | Torne | the bzr revision number isn't global |
| 14:11:40 | funman | perhaps if you distribute a test build which you can track in your local repo |
| 14:11:42 | Torne | so you'd have to know what bzr branch it was from. |
| 14:12:00 | gevaerts | this wouldn't change anything for the official builds, right? |
| 14:12:11 | Torne | it won't change anything unless you build from a bzr branch, no |
| 14:12:27 | Torne | FS #10414 has the change |
| 14:12:36 | funman | what if you build official unmodified builds from a bzr branch ? |
| 14:12:49 | Torne | funman: if the head revision is a svn revision it looks the same as if it was svn |
| 14:13:00 | Torne | the FS has a list of the things it will output |
| 14:13:13 | Torne | it basically tries quite hard to give *some* kind of version number which is not a lie |
| 14:13:23 | Torne | it's not always hugely helpful but it shouldn't ever be misleading |
| 14:13:51 | funman | Torne: well it looks ok. now the hardest part is to find an interested committer |
| 14:14:00 | Torne | Fortunately this part is now done |
| 14:14:08 | Torne | see above :) |
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| 14:14:23 | * | funman was being ironic and wishes welcome to Torne |
| 14:14:28 | * | Torne grins |
| 14:15:12 | Torne | pardon me being dense |
| 14:16:22 | * | Torne retests that the version.sh definately still works for svn/git |
| 14:16:41 | funman | actually using short git commits hashes could be useful |
| 14:16:54 | Torne | someone siad that was proposed and rejected |
| 14:17:00 | Torne | but who knows |
| 14:17:09 | Torne | i dislike git so am indifferent :) |
| 14:17:35 | funman | it wouldn't fit on the clip screen however (and anything 128 pixels wide) |
| 14:17:56 | TheSeven | funman: then make that line scroll :-P |
| 14:18:37 | funman | Clip has hardware scrolling, but we only have 4 pixels out of screen per line :/ |
| 14:19:19 | funman | It should be scrolled in the info screen but i'm not sure about the early logo |
| 14:19:23 | linuxstb | Torne: Welcome! Now you can make your own ipod bootloader release ;) |
| 14:19:27 | Torne | linuxstb: gah :) |
| 14:20:14 | Torne | funman: well, if there's a concern that it'd be too long, i can kill the bzr revision, so it just displays the svn version it's based on, and an M if that's not the head or there are uncommitted changes (as the git version does) |
| 14:20:48 | linuxstb | Torne: If it doesn't change anything for svn users, I've no objection. (and I guess git users will say the same...) |
| 14:21:13 | funman | Torne: it would only harm people modifying rockbox and using bzr so it's not a problem |
| 14:21:17 | TheSeven | Torne: if it's to long for the bootloader, it won't really hurt, it will only clip off the end of the build date |
| 14:21:25 | Torne | True |
| 14:21:36 | TheSeven | too* |
| 14:21:40 | Torne | if you really are using a version built from bzr you probably care more about the version than the date |
| 14:22:36 | * | Torne wiats for a git repo to clone so he can test it ;) |
| 14:23:39 | funman | git://git.rockbox.org/rockbox |
| 14:23:53 | funman | oh you wait for the clone to finish o: |
| 14:23:56 | Torne | Yes :) |
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| 14:25:43 | Torne | seems to work. |
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| 14:31:10 | Torne | Niiice |
| 14:31:20 | Torne | bzr-svn just gave me a backtrace while trying to push ;) |
| 14:32:06 | GodEater | haha |
| 14:32:58 | Torne | TypeError: password should be string |
| 14:33:11 | Torne | it worked when i typed my password interactively |
| 14:33:19 | Torne | i sved it in the config and now it doesn'y :) |
| 14:38:26 | CIA-85 | New commit by torne (r23187): Add support for detecting build version in a bzr checkout (for bzr-svn users). ... |
| 14:38:41 | * | Torne goes to report a bug on bzr-svn :) |
| 14:43:01 | linuxstb | Torne: Do you need developer rights on the tracker? |
| 14:43:07 | Torne | zagor did it already |
| 14:43:17 | linuxstb | Then close that task! ;) |
| 14:43:26 | Torne | i'm doin git |
| 14:43:39 | * | linuxstb apologises for being impatient........... |
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| 14:49:54 | tmzt | this might be interesting to whoever is doing s5cxxxx, http://bloggingthemonkey.blogspot.com/2009/08/neon-is-fashionable.html |
| 14:51:38 | Torne | ...there's a DAP with an ARMv7? |
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| 14:59:04 | * | TheSeven is still stuck. |
| 14:59:33 | liar|school | TheSeven: i am getting a panic now, FTL: scheduling bank 0 block 3771 for remap! |
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| 15:00:02 | TheSeven | could be a bug, could be a nand fluke, or could be the first true bad block |
| 15:00:53 | liar|school | is there a way to determine what it is? |
| 15:01:09 | TheSeven | can you reproduce it? |
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| 15:09:47 | linuxstb | Torne: We now live in the era of PMPs... |
| 15:10:06 | Torne | i guess |
| 15:10:19 | Torne | but there aren't even very many ARMv7 *phones* yet |
| 15:11:17 | FlynDice | funman: Just wakin up here... re: FS #10308, FS #10507 I'm still trying to get the SD cards to run at the lower freqs and I still go back and grab the preset freq patch now and then. I'd like to leave them open for now ;) |
| 15:11:33 | CIA-85 | New commit by teru (r23188): |
| 15:11:56 | liar|school | TheSeven: i am haveing it since i tried 23084 |
| 15:12:08 | TheSeven | when does it happen? |
| 15:12:16 | liar|school | everytime i try to boot rockbox |
| 15:12:43 | TheSeven | can you boot to disk mode and try to read back the .rockbox dir to a pc and see if that fails somehow? |
| 15:13:16 | teru | oops, i used empty message file... |
| 15:13:19 | liar|school | TheSeven: appleos ok too? |
| 15:13:26 | TheSeven | yes |
| 15:13:50 | liar|school | 3 input/output errors |
| 15:13:52 | TheSeven | 23084 is supposed to have a stable nand driver |
| 15:14:20 | Zagor | teru: what message did you mean to add? |
| 15:15:24 | teru | the message i wanted to use is: FS #10554: Rockpaint: enable to set canvas size. |
| 15:16:16 | TheSeven | liar|school: now copy a correct rockbox folder back to your ipod, and it should boot fine again |
| 15:16:38 | TheSeven | write down that bank and block number somewhere, we'll check if the OFW has now remapped it later |
| 15:17:06 | Zagor | teru: fixed |
| 15:18:02 | teru | Zagor: oh, thank you. |
| 15:18:45 | CIA-85 | New commit by mc2739 (r23189): Add e200v2 to Daily Builds |
| 15:20:06 | CIA-85 | New commit by mc2739 (r23190): Add e200v2 and Fuze to manual download page |
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| 15:25:17 | mc2739 | What is needed for e200v2 and Fuze voice builds? |
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| 15:29:30 | Zagor | mc2739: manual changes by me, I'm afraid. fixing... |
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| 15:29:57 | gevaerts | Zagor: did you see http://build.rockbox.org/shownewlog.cgi?rev=23187;type=ipodmini2gsim ? |
| 15:30:28 | Zagor | gevaerts: odd |
| 15:30:39 | gevaerts | dependency issue? |
| 15:30:52 | mc2739 | Zagor: thanks |
| 15:31:06 | Zagor | gevaerts: looks like it |
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| 15:33:22 | * | TheSeven would just call it a fluke |
| 15:35:48 | Zagor | no, it's a bug. I think it's due to the relative path in apps/codecs/libcook/SOURCES. if confuses the parser so no proper dependency is created for it |
| 15:36:51 | mc2739 | Any objections to me doing an alphabetical sort on the daily builds page so that it matches the current builds page? |
| 15:37:00 | Zagor | mc2739: go ahead |
| 15:37:09 | gevaerts | Zagor: "make `pwd`/apps/codecs/libcook.a" in a freshly configured empty build directory works fine |
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| 15:37:56 | Zagor | gevaerts: try several times with -j |
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| 15:53:39 | CIA-85 | New commit by mc2739 (r23191): Alphabetically sort daily builds |
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| 16:01:35 | n1s | Torne: welcome! |
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| 16:01:43 | Torne | thanks ;) |
| 16:20:46 | FlynDice | Is it just me or are the front page and build tables not updating..... |
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| 16:35:56 | liar|school | TheSeven: hmmm i am getting that ftl remap(always different block numbers) error nearly every time i boot rockbox |
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| 16:38:17 | liar|school | TheSeven: but i copied every file from my ipod now and there where no input/output errors |
| 16:41:16 | mc2739 | FlynDice: must be just you - they update fine for me |
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| 16:48:39 | FlynDice | wow that's weird... still not updating here |
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| 16:50:21 | FlynDice | closed & reopened firefox and still on r23188 |
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| 16:51:30 | mc2739 | FlynDice: that is the last build on trunk, the other builds were www |
| 16:53:12 | FlynDice | ah, that explains it, I was trying to see what you did to add & sort those builds, thought I could learn something ;) |
| 16:53:58 | mc2739 | flydutch: look here http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev&revision=23191 |
| 16:54:28 | mc2739 | oops that was flor FlynDice |
| 16:54:41 | FlynDice | got it thx |
| 16:58:39 | liar|school | TheSeven, linuxstb: the error must have happened between r23102 and r23110 |
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| 17:11:54 | liar|school | between r23106 and r23110(cant test revisions between because they are give panics) |
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| 17:19:28 | derbaron | rockbox is so AWESOME |
| 17:19:58 | derbaron | run so awesome on my sansae800v2 |
| 17:20:02 | derbaron | :D |
| 17:20:08 | derbaron | just want to thank all developers etc |
| 17:20:12 | derbaron | donating of course |
| 17:20:13 | derbaron | :) |
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| 17:23:24 | TheSeven | liar|school: huh. 23099 to 23014 have a known bug in the nand driver |
| 17:24:30 | TheSeven | (and the only change in that area since then was fixing that) |
| 17:25:09 | liar|school | strange |
| 17:25:22 | liar|school | but have tried it multiple times now |
| 17:25:50 | liar|school | in r23104 there is no bug in the filebrowser |
| 17:26:54 | liar|school | i havent tested r23105, r23106 to r23109 are crashing |
| 17:27:16 | liar|school | and in r23110 there is again that bug |
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| 17:56:59 | liar|school | TheSeven: r23106: Add a thread to power down the NAND after inactivity on the iPod Nano 2G |
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| 18:02:20 | liar|school | thats not working with my ipod |
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| 18:16:18 | * | TheSeven really needs a way to do logf-style on-lcd debugging while being connected to usb |
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| 18:18:30 | FlynDice | funman:(for the logs) Since all our AMS Sansa's that have multidrive are all removable µSD wouldn't HAVE_HOTSWAP be more appropriate for all of the HAVE_MULTIDRIVE #ifdefs in ata_sd_as3525.c? I'm looking and can't find one where it doesn't make sense to switch. |
| 18:19:54 | FlynDice | It looks like you left some in there.. |
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| 18:46:03 | ED_209 | hey, I have an h300 and I just installed a cameron sino 2200mAh battery |
| 18:46:29 | ED_209 | it's been charging with the stock firmware and wall adapter for about 4 hours now, because rockbox wouldn't boot |
| 18:46:41 | gevaerts | TheSeven: you could make the logf viewer acknowledge the SYS_USB_CONNECTED event |
| 18:47:17 | ED_209 | should I boot into rockbox now or keep charging with the iriver firmware? |
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| 18:49:15 | ED_209 | I mean would it cause harm to the battery if I were to briefly unplug it, boot rockbox, change the battery capacity to 2200mAh and then keep charging it for the first time? |
| 18:51:07 | ED_209 | at first there was no juice AT ALL so it went straight to the iriver charging screen, I thought rockbox would have booted up.. |
| 18:54:57 | domonoky | ED_209: unplug-boot-plug certanly doesnt harm the battery.. |
| 18:56:48 | domonoky | doesnt the h3x0 players also charge without booting ? (at least my h120 can do this, which ofcourse helps charging, as nothing uses any power) |
| 18:57:26 | n1s | domonoky: the h300 boots the of if the charger is plugged in when it's off |
| 18:58:25 | ED_209 | I'm charging it for the first time |
| 18:58:36 | ED_209 | I want to make sure this battery is good |
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| 19:00:41 | ED_209 | should I boot into rockbox and continue charging it from there? or just leave it be? |
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| 19:01:16 | domonoky | ED_209: it doesnt really matter. charging is done in hardware. |
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| 19:01:29 | ED_209 | it doesn't matter at all? |
| 19:02:29 | ED_209 | what does changing the battery capacity in rockbox do then |
| 19:02:49 | domonoky | that only influences the estimated remaining runtime. |
| 19:02:54 | ED_209 | and how does the hardware know when a 2200mAh battery is charged compared to a stock battery? |
| 19:03:28 | ED_209 | (or a dying ex-battery) |
| 19:03:33 | domonoky | the hardware doesnt need to know any capacity, it just charges, till the voltage reaches a certain threshold. |
| 19:03:42 | n1s | when it hits the voltage the charger thinks means "full" |
| 19:04:53 | ED_209 | so with a larger capacity battery |
| 19:04:59 | domonoky | ED_209: the only thing to remember is, that new batterys may need a few charge/discharge cycles till they reach full capacity. |
| 19:05:33 | ED_209 | oh? |
| 19:05:33 | bertrik | oh is that true also for lithium batteries? |
| 19:05:39 | ED_209 | I would think everything comes with a lithium polymer battery these days |
| 19:05:45 | ED_209 | especially everything flat |
| 19:06:02 | domonoky | ED_209: with a larger battery the voltage reaches the threshold later, so it gets charged more. so no worries... |
| 19:06:31 | ED_209 | domonoky: and it'll still need a few charge/discharge cycles? |
| 19:06:44 | domonoky | the battery in my new phone certanly improved after a few charge/discharge cycle, and thats lithium-poly. |
| 19:07:08 | ED_209 | I was told that lithium polymer batteries don't like deep cycling |
| 19:07:30 | TheSeven | yes, but deep cycling is really deep, i.e. below the shutoff threshold |
| 19:07:31 | domonoky | deep cycling is something different, and harmfull for lithium batterys. |
| 19:07:47 | ED_209 | oh right |
| 19:08:03 | ED_209 | so I should run it until the firmware shuts it off? |
| 19:08:08 | ED_209 | then recharge? |
| 19:08:28 | domonoky | ED_209: just uses it normally, and expect that the runtime may improve a bit overtime. |
| 19:08:36 | amiconn | FlynDice: Check the logs - I explained the difference between multidrive and hotswap yesterday |
| 19:09:11 | ED_209 | hey has anyone seen an IDE to zif converter that would fit inside a player? |
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| 19:09:27 | saratoga | i don't think discharging the battery helps any |
| 19:09:50 | saratoga | i think thats just an urban legend because some devices need to discharge a battery to calibrate their battery meters |
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| 19:10:40 | TheSeven | gevaerts: can you make any sense out of windows sending a SET_CONFIGURATION 0x100? |
| 19:10:45 | bertrik | the battery university web site says "Lithium-ion is a very clean system and does not need priming as nickel-based batteries do. The 1st charge is no different to the 5th or the 50th charge. Stickers instructing to charge the battery for 8 hours or more for the first time may be a leftover from the nickel battery days." |
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| 19:11:10 | TheSeven | gevaerts: I've already checked endianness, and it's definitely sent the wrong way for some reason |
| 19:11:23 | gevaerts | TheSeven: that doesn't make sense at all... |
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| 19:12:44 | ED_209 | bertrik: they still re-use those stickers? |
| 19:13:14 | ED_209 | I bet the 1st charge is different from the 50th |
| 19:13:23 | ED_209 | what about the 300th charge |
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| 19:14:23 | saratoga | capacity decreases with each charge cycle, so later cycles don't hold as much power |
| 19:14:29 | bertrik | ask the guy from batteryuniversity.com, I'm just quoting :) |
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| 19:15:09 | ED_209 | I don't think it's a real university |
| 19:15:30 | TheSeven | of course it isn't :-P |
| 19:15:45 | ED_209 | so this 1st charge will be the best? |
| 19:15:49 | bertrik | fine, do whatever you want to your battery, I don't care |
| 19:16:06 | saratoga | probably |
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| 19:16:19 | saratoga | feel free to do some reading and find out for yourself |
| 19:16:54 | ED_209 | well I didn't know that the charging was all hardware |
| 19:17:05 | ED_209 | since I'm running rockbox I thought I'd ask in here |
| 19:17:38 | saratoga | the method used to charge doesn't have anything to do with the battery capacity |
| 19:17:58 | ED_209 | sweet |
| 19:18:02 | saratoga | the charging procedure is the same no matter how you implement it |
| 19:18:08 | saratoga | if you want to know about it try google |
| 19:18:37 | TheSeven | >> [19:15]<saratoga>the method used to charge doesn't have anything to do with the battery capacity |
| 19:18:40 | TheSeven | not entirely true |
| 19:19:06 | ED_209 | ok well I'm going to leave it charging until it says it's full |
| 19:19:08 | TheSeven | you *could* increase CC stage current a little if you wanted to with a bigger capacity :-D |
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| 19:21:22 | TheSeven | any idea why "panicf("SET_CONFIGURATION %8X", (int)ctrlreq.wValue);" seems to interpret that field as big endian? |
| 19:21:53 | TheSeven | the wireshark trace shows it's "01 00", so 0x0001 in little endian, but that panicf prints out 00000100 |
| 19:21:55 | gevaerts | why %8x? It's only a 16 bit value |
| 19:22:10 | gevaerts | shouldn't cause this of course |
| 19:22:33 | TheSeven | i casted it to an int to make sure there wasn't any type mess fooling me, but just %d and wValue without the cast yields 256 |
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| 19:24:04 | TheSeven | this shouldn't cause any trouble though, as the value is ignored in the usb core, as long as it's nonzero |
| 19:24:56 | gevaerts | yes, but it's still weird |
| 19:25:09 | * | gevaerts doesn't like unexplained weirdness |
| 19:26:25 | ED_209 | what happens if I leave the iriver plugged in all night |
| 19:27:19 | kugel | well, saying the 1st charge is different from the 50th one is nitpicking. the cycle time starts to decrease noticeably way later |
| 19:28:13 | TheSeven | ED_209: always a good idea |
| 19:29:34 | val3 | hi all, any ipod 5.5g rockbox users there, i am experiencing some trouble with the HDD, i started the diagnostic mode, can anyone help me to interpret the data ?! |
| 19:30:40 | FlynDice | amiconn: re: HOTSWAP Thanks I see that now |
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| 19:32:36 | ED_209 | TheSeven: sarcasm? |
| 19:33:00 | ED_209 | seriously I want to sleep, and I won't wake up for about 12 hours |
| 19:33:13 | kugel | TheSeven: usually there's no harm in doing that, if the mechanisms to protect the battery work |
| 19:33:18 | ED_209 | why doesn't it turn off once it's charged |
| 19:33:18 | domonoky | ED_209: nothing bad will happen, the charging hardware takes care of this. |
| 19:33:25 | ED_209 | really? |
| 19:33:27 | TheSeven | if you want it to be 100% full, you'll in fact need to do that |
| 19:33:30 | kugel | ED_209: (that was for you) |
| 19:34:08 | ED_209 | so it stops voltage from reaching the battery once it's full? |
| 19:34:16 | TheSeven | the battery will never be full |
| 19:34:18 | TheSeven | if those things show they're full, they're at most at 95% |
| 19:34:27 | TheSeven | to get 97%, you'll need to charge it for several hours longer |
| 19:34:31 | ED_209 | you know what I mean :P |
| 19:34:34 | kugel | li-ion wouldn't be very successful if leaving it a bit too long in the charger would hurt |
| 19:34:42 | TheSeven | and even if you charge it for days, you'll only slowly approach the 99% |
| 19:34:46 | n1s | ED_209: yes, it stops charging once the battery is full |
| 19:35:25 | TheSeven | n1s: if the charger is good, it doesn't really stop, but charge slower, and slower, and slower, ... |
| 19:35:50 | TheSeven | ... until there's barely any current running into the battery any more |
| 19:36:51 | n1s | TheSeven: ok, but the effect is essentially the same /me oversimplified a bit maybe |
| 19:37:24 | TheSeven | yep, exactly. anyways, it can't hurt the battery if the charger works properly (which it really should) |
| 19:37:39 | ED_209 | charger being the thing I plug into the wall |
| 19:37:50 | TheSeven | no, internal to the player |
| 19:37:53 | ED_209 | or whatever witchery is inside the iriver |
| 19:38:02 | TheSeven | the latter |
| 19:38:32 | ED_209 | I had to literally dig up my iriver charger to even get this thing to charge |
| 19:38:34 | n1s | i wonder if a lcd_puts() function is a good idea, we seem to do snprintf(buf, sizeof buf, foo); lcdputs(0,0,foo); in a lot of places |
| 19:38:41 | ED_209 | USB wouldn't do it |
| 19:38:47 | n1s | eh a lcd_putsf() function |
| 19:39:02 | ED_209 | the screen remained black and little clicking noises came out, I nearly had a heart attack |
| 19:39:32 | n1s | it is supposed to be able to charge fro usb |
| 19:39:45 | ED_209 | well that's what happened |
| 19:39:55 | TheSeven | gevaerts: is it normal that the ipod is detected as a compound device even if i have enabled only storage? |
| 19:40:56 | * | TheSeven hates using panicf for debugging |
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| 20:03:24 | * | JdGordon| wonders if there is room in the rb fund to sponsor a cheapy mac for rbutil development? |
| 20:03:43 | gevaerts | TheSeven: "enabled only storage" how? |
| 20:03:44 | kugel | n1s: sure, it just exists already |
| 20:04:05 | kugel | however, it doesn't format |
| 20:04:17 | TheSeven | #define HAVE_USBSTACK |
| 20:04:18 | TheSeven | #define USB_ENABLE_STORAGE |
| 20:04:20 | TheSeven | #define USE_ROCKBOX_USB |
| 20:04:24 | TheSeven | plus things like vendor id etc. |
| 20:04:27 | kugel | ah yea, putsf would be fine |
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| 20:05:02 | gevaerts | TheSeven: most USB_ENABLEs are done in config.h |
| 20:05:30 | amiconn | kugel, n1s: Problem is that there are other lcd_put* variants. Should they all have a formatting variant? |
| 20:05:32 | n1s | kugel: yeah i meant to don't have to always do snprintf and then lcd_puts like it's done in so many places |
| 20:05:51 | amiconn | lcd_putsxy, lcd_puts, lcd_puts_scroll, ... |
| 20:06:05 | kugel | why not? |
| 20:06:20 | amiconn | overkill? |
| 20:06:36 | kugel | how's that overkill? |
| 20:06:38 | n1s | amiconn: i think we can add for the ones where it will be used and leave the others alone |
| 20:07:22 | kugel | if a shitload of places do the snprintf+puts* combo it will surely simplify things |
| 20:07:45 | kugel | we have wrappers for more trivial things in the lcd driver |
| 20:08:12 | * | amiconn wonders what this "shitload" evaluates to |
| 20:09:34 | kugel | the fact that we have splashf makes a lot of splashes easier too |
| 20:11:03 | peter_b | hi guys |
| 20:11:31 | peter_b | can i get rockbox to work with an alternative partition table on my ipod? |
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| 20:12:35 | peter_b | the bootloader complains about not being able to open rockbox.ipod if i dont use the std partitons table |
| 20:14:05 | kugel | n1s: I agree, we should just provide it, instead of forcing everyone to invent the wheel once again |
| 20:14:40 | gevaerts | peter_b: it would help if you would say what that partition table looks lile |
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| 20:14:55 | n1s | i think i'll look into that tomorrow then |
| 20:15:58 | kugel | n1s: at least 3 target do their debug with that, 2 even put that in a debug_printf macro which does the same |
| 20:16:18 | peter_b | i just want to have some free space between the 2 partitons |
| 20:16:20 | kugel | well, not exactly the same, it also does incrementing the line number automatically |
| 20:16:35 | gevaerts | that should work |
| 20:16:35 | peter_b | looks like the hd has some bad sectors there |
| 20:16:51 | peter_b | so i changed the start of the second parttion to cyl 50 |
| 20:17:10 | TheSeven | peter_b sector size = 512? |
| 20:17:18 | peter_b | (it was 5 befoe iirc) |
| 20:17:31 | peter_b | mom |
| 20:17:45 | peter_b | its a 80bg 5g |
| 20:18:11 | TheSeven | gevaerts: was this that crazy hard drive? |
| 20:18:32 | gevaerts | that's the one that uses 2048 byte sectors, yes |
| 20:18:37 | TheSeven | if the sectors are not 512 bytes, i would blame it on your partitioning tool. i've seen a lot of them fail in that condition |
| 20:18:50 | peter_b | hmm |
| 20:19:02 | TheSeven | we were having massive trouble with the ipod nano 2g which has 2048 byte sectors, too |
| 20:19:07 | peter_b | damn ipod battery is to emty right now |
| 20:19:18 | TheSeven | i don't think there was any tool that worked 100% properly in that case |
| 20:19:56 | peter_b | but as soon as i can take a look i will check what sce size my fdisk thinks there is |
| 20:20:34 | peter_b | ok |
| 20:21:10 | gevaerts | which tools did you use? |
| 20:21:19 | peter_b | linux fdisk |
| 20:21:38 | peter_b | 2.16.1 |
| 20:21:43 | gevaerts | and to format? |
| 20:21:51 | peter_b | mkdosfs |
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| 20:22:14 | TheSeven | did you unplug and re-plug your ipod between partitioning and formatting? (or reload your partition table in a different way) |
| 20:22:15 | peter_b | 3.0.6 |
| 20:22:27 | peter_b | yes |
| 20:22:38 | gevaerts | ah, that one has suspected issues with 2048 byte sectors and rockbox. Try mformat |
| 20:23:14 | gevaerts | see http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodManualRestore |
| 20:23:23 | peter_b | but isnt it strange than the it works fine if i use the std partition table? |
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| 20:25:53 | gevaerts | I don't know. The mkdosfs issues are unpredictable and unknown, alignment may be involved for all I know |
| 20:25:58 | peter_b | ill try again wih mformat |
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| 20:31:11 | n1s | kugel: in fact it seems debug_menu.c is the only place this is really common |
| 20:33:44 | peter_b | hmmm |
| 20:33:54 | peter_b | how do i get the drive letter for mformat? |
| 20:34:34 | peter_b | ahh |
| 20:34:37 | peter_b | i see ... |
| 20:35:27 | kugel | n1s: did you look for similar putsxy cases too? |
| 20:36:08 | kugel | I assume puts isn't used that much in general outside the debug menu, since only the lists do line oriented drawing |
| 20:36:23 | kugel | other places not so much |
| 20:36:45 | kugel | (of course lists are the very vast majority) |
| 20:38:21 | peter_b | mformat -S 2048 -M 2048 -F D: |
| 20:38:32 | peter_b | complains: |
| 20:38:37 | peter_b | argssize must be less than 6 |
| 20:39:50 | n1s | eh i fail badly at grepping so i will check it more thoroughly tomorrow |
| 20:40:14 | gevaerts | peter_b: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodConversionToFAT32 has some more options |
| 20:40:38 | * | gevaerts isn't really an mformat expert |
| 20:42:41 | peter_b | thx |
| 20:42:44 | peter_b | mformat -t 2428 -h 255 -n 63 -S 4 -M 2048 -F D: |
| 20:42:53 | peter_b | seems to do something |
| 20:44:04 | peter_b | ok |
| 20:44:11 | peter_b | lets see if rockbox boots now |
| 20:44:20 | peter_b | eject /dev/sdp |
| 20:46:41 | peter_b | hurray |
| 20:46:55 | peter_b | boots now with my partition table |
| 20:46:59 | peter_b | thx! |
| 20:47:50 | gevaerts | \☺/ |
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| 20:50:32 | peter_b | are you guys interested in a plugin that turns rockbox into a remote trigger for a camera ? |
| 20:50:46 | peter_b | (needs a special cable too ...) |
| 20:51:06 | JdGordon| | im sure *someone* is |
| 20:51:52 | peter_b | is there a place to put stuff like that? |
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| 21:59:59 | bertrik | I think I'd rather reimplement the s5l8700 usb than re-use the one from the cowon d2 |
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| 22:00:34 | markun | why is that? |
| 22:00:54 | markun | too much hacks to get the code working on both? |
| 22:01:02 | bertrik | a lot seemed to be missing when comparing it with the OF |
| 22:01:30 | bertrik | and I'm afraid I'll break it for the cowon d2 ... :) |
| 22:01:58 | markun | bertrik: you could start by copying the file and later try to merge them again.. |
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| 23:14:00 | CIA-85 | New commit by kugel (r23196): Pitchscreen: Don't clear the whole display, but only the parent viewport. |
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| 23:30:21 | CIA-85 | New commit by kugel (r23197): Use the center align viewport flag to draw top and bottom text centered. |
| 23:32:57 | * | JdGordon| isnt so sure about using setting an alignment and rtl flag on a viewport.... |
| 23:35:12 | CIA-85 | New commit by kugel (r23198): Correct a small misaligned brace. |
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| 23:40:21 | kugel | JdGordon|: it turns out quite handy actually |
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| 23:45:49 | tomers | kugel: Nice binsize saving :-) |
| 23:48:14 | kugel | hehe |
| 23:48:43 | * | funman points people knowing WPS code to http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10673 |
| 23:49:16 | * | JdGordon| passes the buck on that one |
| 23:49:28 | gevaerts | at work? |
| 23:49:44 | kugel | funman: I looked at it actually, I was about to commit it, but I decided to find a way to do with without code duplication first |
| 23:50:33 | kugel | which led me to find out that firmware/include/sound.h contains #ifdef HAVE_PITCHSCREEN stuff (in firmware/ !!) |
| 23:50:59 | * | TheSeven spots a lockup around getmaxlun requests |
| 23:51:19 | JdGordon| | and #define HAVE_PITCHSCREEN is in config-target.h which it shouldnt be :/ |
| 23:52:05 | amiconn | Looks like the build system is still having problems :\ |
| 23:52:06 | kugel | JdGordon|: why? |
| 23:52:36 | JdGordon| | because its not target specific... its generic to all swcodec |
| 23:52:40 | * | kugel glares at the "failed regex:" message above the download table |
| 23:52:41 | amiconn | Bagder: Also why does http://build.rockbox.org/ show "Failed regex:" above the table? |
| 23:52:49 | kugel | first!! |
| 23:53:07 | amiconn | kugel: The pitchscreen isn't swcodec only |
| 23:53:28 | kugel | amiconn: I know, tell it JdGordon| |
| 23:53:45 | JdGordon| | do any targets *not* have it? |
| 23:53:46 | amiconn | Eh, that's what I meant |
| 23:53:59 | kugel | JdGordon|: at least one, you know which :p |
| 23:54:08 | amiconn | JdGordon|: The Player doesn't, and this time not because of charcell |
| 23:54:52 | JdGordon| | we should then change it to NO_PITCHSCREEN and #ifndef NO_PITCHSCREEN instead |
| 23:54:58 | JdGordon| | ditto for quickscreen |
| 23:55:07 | kugel | I think we shouldn't |
| 23:55:49 | amiconn | The MAS3507D doesn't allow for a useful adjustment range (only a few percent, and it would even depend on the sample frequency of the playing track) |
| 23:55:49 | gevaerts | JdGordon|: please, no. Negative defines are confusing |
| 23:55:49 | * | amiconn neither |
| 23:55:58 | funman | NO_NO_PITCHSCREEN then ? |
| 23:56:43 | JdGordon| | anyway, my point is that there are lots of defines in the target configs which arent really target based |
| 23:56:55 | kugel | doesn't matter |
| 23:56:57 | JdGordon| | or are enabled for all but one or two targets |
| 23:56:59 | JdGordon| | its annoying |
| 23:57:11 | gevaerts | less so than the alternative |
| 23:57:33 | kugel | I think there should be even more feature-selection defines in config-<target>.h |
| 23:57:49 | amiconn | config-<target> is mainly for feature selection |
| 23:58:21 | JdGordon| | or we should define them in config.h unless the DISABLE_BLAA is defined in the target file |
| 23:58:30 | amiconn | Really target hardware dependent things *should* be in target tree .h files imo, unless they're also needed for the sim, in which case this won't work |
| 23:58:41 | JdGordon| | I tihnk config- should be for hardware stuff and another .h should be for features |
| 23:58:44 | | Part wincent ("Kopete 0.12.7 : http://kopete.kde.org") |
| 23:58:54 | amiconn | The latter is the reason why display resolution, depth, pixel packing etc are in config-<target>.h as well |
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