| 00:00:09 | kugel | I haven't investigated, but it's very likely |
| 00:00:16 | amiconn | No it wouldn't. That would only work for an sdl target, not for a sim simulating another target |
| 00:00:34 | amiconn | A few things should be moved out of config-*.h, e.g. the fm tuner xtal frequency (that one's only needed in the fm driver) |
| 00:00:38 | kugel | code size decreased, and the dims (whether they're tiny or not) are on the skin buffer |
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| 00:01:17 | gevaerts | amiconn: that could be solved using a separate header that has only those defines |
| 00:01:28 | * | gevaerts isn't sure if that would be a good idea though |
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| 00:01:57 | amiconn | [23:58:37] <amiconn> Really target hardware dependent things *should* be in target tree .h files imo, unless they're also needed for the sim, in which case this won't work |
| 00:02:22 | amiconn | So that's where the xtal freq should go, and some other things too. |
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| 00:02:34 | kugel | like SANSA_OF_SIZE? :) |
| 00:03:02 | gevaerts | what I mean is that you could have lcd_type_x.h, which has screen size and bit format in it. That's safe to include from everywhere |
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| 00:04:14 | * | kugel doesn't think ending up with 20 lcd-type.h files is any better |
| 00:04:57 | amiconn | gevaerts: I wouldn't move these out of config-*.h |
| 00:05:21 | gevaerts | I wouldn't either, but they could be if we really wanted to |
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| 00:06:56 | amiconn | Right now config-*.h contents is somewhat mixed, they define both features (which can be disabled for a stripped-down rockbox) and hardware properties |
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| 00:10:38 | rasher | Maybe it's time for tools/menuconfig |
| 00:11:58 | JdGordon| | and more contentious features |
| 00:11:59 | bertrik | do we really want every feature to be individually configurable? |
| 00:12:20 | JdGordon| | sure |
| 00:12:34 | bertrik | In the current state, I think a lot of targets would give compile problems when disabling certain features |
| 00:12:50 | JdGordon| | yes, but new stuff could be added to work |
| 00:13:08 | JdGordon| | the build table might become too massive though if every permutation is built :) |
| 00:13:35 | TheSeven | ...not to mention build times |
| 00:14:13 | * | TheSeven will give up nano2g usb for now and concentrate on other things |
| 00:14:15 | JdGordon| | the database is already disable-able even though every target has it enabled |
| 00:14:20 | bertrik | and the amount of #ifdefs |
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| 00:21:19 | * | TheSeven wonders why the "star" plugin looks for USB connections |
| 00:22:09 | CIA-85 | New commit by kugel (r23199): Fix %Sp expansion in wps ... |
| 00:22:31 | linuxstb | TheSeven: All plugins should |
| 00:22:46 | TheSeven | well, it's the only one that got hit by my grep |
| 00:23:06 | linuxstb | What did you grep for? |
| 00:24:46 | amiconn | All end-user plugins which use event loop(s) have to check for usb, and handle the event. There's a default event handler which is normally used for this |
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| 00:27:42 | liar|netbook | linuxstb: i found where the problem actually is, its existing since r23106. either nand_power_down or nand_power_up does not work properly on my ipod |
| 00:29:30 | TheSeven | liar|netbook: but that's the revision where i fixed them, right? |
| 00:29:41 | TheSeven | it's really weird that the broken ones seem to work for you |
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| 00:29:47 | liar|netbook | thats the revision where you add them |
| 00:30:25 | Reptile211 | does anyone know how to join Demonoid? |
| 00:30:25 | TheSeven | no, i added them in 23099 |
| 00:30:38 | TheSeven | what the heck is demonoid? |
| 00:31:30 | linuxstb | Reptile211: I think you have the wrong channel... |
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| 00:33:37 | liar|netbook | TheSeven: ah they are there since 23099 but in 23106 its the first time you have called nand_power_down |
| 00:34:34 | TheSeven | ah, that's where i added the thread |
| 00:34:45 | TheSeven | but they have already been called from time to time before, just not so often |
| 00:35:06 | TheSeven | what's your flash size? |
| 00:35:10 | liar|netbook | 8GB |
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| 00:40:54 | * | TheSeven just made his ipod show logf while being connected to usb |
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| 00:48:13 | TheSeven | however, it locks up as soon as i connect it to a windows box :-/ |
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| 00:49:32 | kugel | custom statusbar is working pretty awesome already |
| 00:52:50 | TheSeven | liar|netbook: what did you say was the revision range you had trouble with? |
| 00:53:02 | TheSeven | everything until 23106 was working perfectly fine? |
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| 00:53:34 | TheSeven | are you still having the NAND issues with current HEAD, or did they go away again with some revision? |
| 00:53:37 | liar|netbook | not perfectly, had sometimes some panics and so on but the filebrowser worked |
| 00:54:05 | liar|netbook | no i am haveing that issues still with the current svn/official build |
| 00:54:09 | TheSeven | did you have any panics before 23099? |
| 00:54:37 | TheSeven | so everything starting from 23106 is completely untestable for you because booting fails due to nand trouble? |
| 00:56:16 | TheSeven | can you locally revert 23115, 23110, 23106 and 23099 based on HEAD and see if it's fine again? |
| 00:57:42 | liar|netbook | r23106, r23107, r23108, r23109 were untestable, but with nand-nano2g.c from r23110 i was able to test r23106 to r23109 |
| 00:58:39 | liar|netbook | TheSeven: if i use ata-nand s5l8700.c from any revision before r23106 with the current version i have no problems |
| 00:58:54 | TheSeven | not even that file browser problem? |
| 00:59:14 | liar|netbook | no problems at all |
| 00:59:26 | * | TheSeven can't see the connection from NAND power management to the GUI doing nonsense depending on which key is pressed |
| 00:59:28 | liar|netbook | so it must have to do something with that thread |
| 00:59:57 | TheSeven | can you try HEAD with the nand_power_down and nand_power_up functions emptied? |
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| 01:02:48 | TheSeven | if this still fails it's the thread itself and not the actual power management that's causing trouble |
| 01:04:03 | TheSeven | and another potential cause: can you have a look what the stack usage of the nand thread is? |
| 01:04:16 | TheSeven | (with the current official build) |
| 01:04:41 | TheSeven | it should be at 80% |
| 01:06:43 | liar|netbook | TheSeven: if i empty nand_power_down and nand_power_up i am getting an ata panic again |
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| 01:08:25 | TheSeven | liar|netbook: you may need to keep the nand_powered=[01]; line |
| 01:12:58 | liar|netbook | TheSeven: still getting that ata panic, maybe because nand is never powered up at all if i comment the contents of nand_power_up? |
| 01:13:25 | TheSeven | no, we take that over powered from the booloader |
| 01:13:35 | TheSeven | it worked long before i even wrote this code |
| 01:14:08 | TheSeven | if you want to get rid of it cleanly: |
| 01:14:10 | TheSeven | [00:55]<TheSeven>can you locally revert 23115, 23110, 23106 and 23099 based on HEAD and see if it's fine again? |
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| 01:17:11 | enthdegree | Is there a faster way to encode video to mpeg on linux? (mencoder is the only way that works for me and it's going slow for some reason ;P ) |
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| 01:20:00 | liar|netbook | TheSeven: nand stack usage in the official build is 80%, will revert now... |
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| 01:22:00 | TheSeven | bah, that windows usb problem seems to be some kind of race condition :-/ |
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| 01:31:55 | liar|netbook | TheSeven: ata error 1 |
| 01:32:20 | TheSeven | with these changes reverted? |
| 01:32:29 | liar|netbook | TheSeven: yes |
| 01:32:35 | liar|netbook | but if i use HEAD and revert just r23106 it works(i said that already i think) |
| 01:32:57 | TheSeven | which is weird, as 23106 fixed a lot of trouble for others |
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| 01:33:26 | TheSeven | can you diff what you currently got after these reverts against the newest possible working state for you? |
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| 01:35:39 | liar|netbook | so you want a diff from HEAD with 23115, 23110, 23106 and 23099 reverted and HEAD with 23106 reverted |
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| 01:38:33 | liar|netbook | ill do that tomorrow, i have to go to bed now |
| 01:38:43 | enthdegree | Trying to encode w/ VLC gives: [00000409] main stream out error: no sout stream module matched "transcodeaudio-sync" |
| 01:38:43 | enthdegree | [00000408] main stream output error: stream chain failed for `transcodeaudio-sync:stdurl=thing.mpg' |
| 01:38:43 | enthdegree | [00000407] main input error: cannot start stream output instance, aborting |
| 01:39:09 | krazykit | enthdegree, it's really not rockbox related |
| 01:39:23 | enthdegree | Oh ok. I'll just go ask on another chan. :P |
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| 01:41:17 | enthdegree | How do I patch KDE2 under FreeBSD? ;D |
| 01:41:54 | krazykit | this is an on-topic channel about rockbox, not a general support channel |
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| 01:42:30 | enthdegree | sheesh, I know. : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_does_one_patch_KDE2_under_FreeBSD%3F |
| 01:43:08 | Unhelpful | if you know, why ask here? |
| 01:43:23 | enthdegree | See link. |
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| 01:47:47 | Unhelpful | and it's *still* off-topic here. :/ |
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| 02:08:59 | JdGordon | Bob_C: ping? |
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| 03:04:46 | rhodan | Hi, I just received my Sansa Fuze. |
| 03:04:54 | rhodan | It was a V2 :( |
| 03:05:08 | rhodan | When can I expect Rockbox support for that one? |
| 03:06:51 | rhodan | I constantly get a WSOD while updating the collection when some specific OGGs are present. |
| 03:07:10 | krazykit | there are no time estimates for any ports in progress, as work is done by volunteers in their free time |
| 03:08:00 | rhodan | krazykit: Is there anybody working on it? |
| 03:10:54 | krazykit | there is still work being done on the AMS targets, which could include the fuzev2, but the logs here and the relevant forum thread would be the best place to look |
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| 04:00:16 | yelped | Can someone check out http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10678? |
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| 06:17:41 | Dhraakellian | my fuze is whitescreening after bootup (bootloader screen shows, then white) with r23199 (just a wild guess: thinking r23193 is responsible) |
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| 06:41:13 | Dhraakellian | yep, r23193 |
| 06:41:26 | * | Dhraakellian goes back to r23192 |
| 06:42:50 | Dhraakellian | 8GB silver FuzeV1, with or without my 8GB SanDisk class 2 µSDHC |
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| 06:56:14 | FlynDice | Dhraakellian: rats... got any other info? |
| 06:56:29 | Dhraakellian | what type of info? |
| 06:56:48 | FlynDice | working fine with 23192 I suppose? |
| 06:56:53 | Dhraakellian | yep |
| 06:57:18 | Dhraakellian | which is what the "yep, r23193" bit was about. I went back and tested with that and r23192 |
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| 07:17:30 | FlynDice | Dhraakellian: Sorry to pester here but unmodified svn 23193 after a make clean right? |
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| 07:23:29 | pixelma | the %Sp commit reminded me of something: I once noticed that I can't use bass or treble with it in a conditional. I found a comment in the code which tells me that there is a wrong assumption which could cause trouble with those settings (as they can become negative which doesn't seem to be handled) - but I lack knowledge how to fix it. If anyone wants to have a look - it's in lines 788 and following in /trunk/apps/gui/skin_engine/skin_tokens.c |
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| 07:30:07 | Dhraakellian | FlynDice: the only modification is a sudoku keybind patch |
| 07:30:22 | Dhraakellian | and one make clean + rebuild coming up |
| 07:30:55 | FlynDice | Dhraakellian: thanks for doing that I don't have a fuze but an e280... |
| 07:31:58 | Dhraakellian | no problem |
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| 07:32:36 | Dhraakellian | not a low-level hacker, but I try to help out however I can |
| 07:33:49 | Dhraakellian | (and I think I still owe a couple guys beer (should I ever happen to meet them in person) for getting USB working on the e200v1 back before I gave it to my older brother as a hand-me-down) |
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| 07:36:09 | FlynDice | There were'nt any white screen problems with testing on this one, mostly usd issues so I'm sure there's not a quick fix here :( |
| 07:37:00 | * | Dhraakellian is hoping that the make clean works some black magic to counteract the white screen |
| 07:38:11 | * | FlynDice is lighting incense and performing ancient rain dance in hope for same! |
| 07:39:04 | Dhraakellian | I'd rather have reported a non-issue and have the port improve than be right and be held back while waiting for a fix |
| 07:39:44 | * | FlynDice just wants to get it right... |
| 07:40:18 | JdGordon | pixelma: tracker..... |
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| 07:49:30 | * | FlynDice hears crickets chirping through the silence.... |
| 07:50:18 | pixelma | JdGordon: yeah I know. But I first wanted to know if I understood correctly and then I have to leave for work now, will tracker it when I come back (and not forget which is another reason I mentioned it here... someone can remind me ;) ) |
| 07:51:36 | * | Dhraakellian unzips it |
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| 07:53:03 | * | Dhraakellian unmounts and unplugs |
| 07:53:19 | JdGordon | wait... what are we talking about here?! |
| 07:53:30 | Dhraakellian | *snrk* |
| 07:53:53 | * | Dhraakellian holds the powerbutton to quit out of the stupid OF db refresh while building suspense |
| 07:54:04 | Dhraakellian | whitescreen! |
| 07:56:07 | FlynDice | I don't know what the button is on the fuze to clear settings on startup but can you try that? |
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| 07:56:19 | Dhraakellian | mv .rockbox .rockbox.bak |
| 07:56:41 | Dhraakellian | same |
| 07:57:16 | Dhraakellian | with and without µSDHC, if that might make any difference |
| 07:57:44 | FlynDice | I was gonna ask but figured you'd be checking that... |
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| 07:59:27 | Dhraakellian | gonna revert to 23192 now, unless there are any other tests you want me to do |
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| 08:00:00 | FlynDice | Not that I can think of right now, Thanks for the legwork and the report! |
| 08:00:21 | Dhraakellian | (I *could* test without the sudoku keymap patch, but that might be a little silly) |
| 08:00:45 | FlynDice | what's that patch touch? |
| 08:01:21 | Dhraakellian | a little one-liner to replace a select+up combo with just select |
| 08:01:30 | Dhraakellian | for the scratchpad |
| 08:01:50 | FlynDice | can't see that being a problem... |
| 08:02:17 | Dhraakellian | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10459 |
| 08:04:31 | Dhraakellian | the only real problem I can think of with that patch is that it might be confusing for someone with e200-trained muscle memory |
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| 08:05:34 | Dhraakellian | I still find myself occasionally trying to get into the menu by pressing Select instead of Home |
| 08:06:22 | FlynDice | were you using rockbox on your fuze the last time we tried voltage scaling back in JUL? |
| 08:06:40 | Dhraakellian | I think so, yes |
| 08:06:58 | FlynDice | any whitescreens then? |
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| 08:08:12 | Dhraakellian | I think so. (Although I do remember something about not being bitten by a bug that others were experiencing, but I might just be remembering µSDHC stuff since I only have a class 2) |
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| 08:09:01 | Dhraakellian | if you have a revision number handy, I could probably double check to be sure |
| 08:10:28 | FlynDice | nah, just curious, too much work for my curiosity ;) |
| 08:10:42 | Dhraakellian | would it be of much help to know? |
| 08:13:02 | FlynDice | I don't think so, the voltages are the same and the method of changing them is also. The main difference is now we make sure the voltage is at the full 1.20 v any time a µSD is present. |
| 08:13:39 | FlynDice | or actually any time it is present and a disk is being accessed |
| 08:15:52 | Dhraakellian | Could I get that sudoku keymap committed, btw? |
| 08:18:00 | FlynDice | I would talk to kugel about that, I don't know the reasoning and history of the keymap schemes... |
| 08:19:03 | Dhraakellian | okay |
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| 08:19:32 | FlynDice | Bedtime here, Thanks for the report! |
| 08:20:11 | Dhraakellian | I think I've asked about it before with a "no promises" response due to busyness/mind-slipping and such |
| 08:20:32 | Dhraakellian | no problem |
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| 10:05:33 | |DaMaGeD| | Can somebody help me about code of RB? i am a newbie) |
| 10:07:07 | linuxstb | What's your question? |
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| 10:07:42 | Dgby714 | can you reverse a string? |
| 10:08:11 | |DaMaGeD| | I'm creating a menu that should be avaliable only for some devices |
| 10:08:52 | linuxstb | Dgby714: You mean turn "Dgby714" into "417ybgD" ? |
| 10:09:06 | |DaMaGeD| | how do this in IF's?) |
| 10:09:06 | linuxstb | |DaMaGeD|: Which devices? |
| 10:09:10 | Dgby714 | linuxstb: yes =) |
| 10:09:15 | |DaMaGeD| | Cowon D2 |
| 10:09:43 | linuxstb | Dgby714: There is no function to that - you will have to write one.... |
| 10:09:50 | * | Dgby714 crys |
| 10:10:32 | linuxstb | |DaMaGeD|: Surround the menu entry with #ifdef COWON_D2 .... #endif |
| 10:10:40 | Dgby714 | ok is there a way to do strncasecmp on the last n character instead of the first? |
| 10:10:45 | |DaMaGeD| | linuxstb: thx) |
| 10:12:08 | linuxstb | Dgby714: These are C questions, rather than anything Rockbox-specific. Maybe take this to #rockbox-community (or elsewhere...) Or you may want to try and google for a description of how strings work in C |
| 10:27:14 | Bob_C | JdGordon: ehoh |
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| 10:41:13 | |DaMaGeD| | ehm...another problem) |
| 10:42:15 | |DaMaGeD| | how to declare global variable? |
| 10:42:47 | |DaMaGeD| | *and where) |
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| 11:03:29 | |DaMaGeD| | øû ôòíè åðóêó, |
| 11:03:33 | |DaMaGeD| | um |
| 11:03:40 | |DaMaGeD| | *is anyb there?) |
| 11:04:18 | ThomasAH | Hi! |
| 11:05:05 | |DaMaGeD| | hello) |
| 11:06:04 | |DaMaGeD| | can you help about RB sources? |
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| 11:12:47 | ThomasAH | |DaMaGeD|: I'm not even a rockbox user yet ;) |
| 11:13:35 | linuxstb | |DaMaGeD|: Please be patient... It may help if you describe what you are working on, and where your variable needs to be accessed from (which source files) ? |
| 11:13:42 | * | ThomasAH is currently searching Google and the wiki to see if the "Archos 2" player has a chance to be supported in the near future |
| 11:14:16 | linuxstb | ThomasAH: Only if an interested owner does http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/NewPort |
| 11:15:04 | ThomasAH | linuxstb: is it similar to an existing port? |
| 11:15:11 | ThomasAH | (the hardware) |
| 11:15:17 | linuxstb | Do you know what CPU is inside it? |
| 11:17:12 | ThomasAH | linuxstb: no, I just noticed that this player exists by an email Amazon sent me this morning ... |
| 11:18:18 | |DaMaGeD| | linuxstb: Sorry... It needs to be accessed from \firmware\target\arm\tcc780x\cowond2\button-cowond2.c |
| 11:18:30 | ThomasAH | The specs (http://www.archos.com/products/mp3_players/archos_2/specs.html) are not verbose with that ... but I read that it has mini-USB connector and a microSDHC slot, which are my main wishes for a player (besides being rockboxable in the forseeable future) |
| 11:18:44 | linuxstb | |DaMaGeD|: And where else? |
| 11:20:20 | |DaMaGeD| | linuxstb: \apps\settings_list.c |
| 11:20:23 | linuxstb | ThomasAH: The Sansa Clip+ meets those criteria I think - Rockbox doesn't work on it yet, but people have shown an interest in it, so I would say that has a better chance than the Archos 2. |
| 11:21:25 | linuxstb | |DaMaGeD|: Ah, so you want to create a new setting? That shouldn't be done with a global variable, but rather you should write a function in button-cowond2.c which is called from the settings code and sets a local variable in that file. |
| 11:21:50 | ThomasAH | linuxstb: I'll look at it now |
| 11:22:27 | linuxstb | ThomasAH: The earlier Sansas _are_ supported by Rockbox, most have a microSD card, but they have a proprietory USB connector. |
| 11:22:34 | ThomasAH | linuxstb: ah, and the Clip+ supports Ogg out of the box |
| 11:23:01 | ThomasAH | linuxstb: Yes, two co-workers have earlier Sansas, one of them already rockboxed |
| 11:27:39 | |DaMaGeD| | linuxstb: thank you) |
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| 11:36:24 | ThomasAH | linuxstb: thanks from me, too, the Clip+ sounds nearly perfect for me ... and it will be perfect as soon as it is rockboxable! :) |
| 11:36:56 | linuxstb | ThomasAH: That may take a long time, or may never work... But if you're happy with the original firmware feature's it's not much of a risk. |
| 11:37:24 | markun | I would have prefered it if the Clip+ had a truely monochrome screen |
| 11:37:40 | markun | (or full colour) |
| 11:37:42 | ThomasAH | linuxstb: folder navigation, resume, ogg support ... that's already a good start |
| 11:39:24 | |DaMaGeD| | linuxstb: sorry for so many stupid questions...I'm wrote a menu,I'm wrote a part of code...but I don't know how to do <what you wrote> in code)can u help? |
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| 11:49:23 | |DaMaGeD| | linuxstb: *some looks at code* int A(bool B,bool C) -in this A is outgoing and B,C are incoming,right?) |
| 11:50:04 | TheSeven | |DaMaGeD|: yes |
| 11:50:25 | |DaMaGeD| | TheSeven: thx) |
| 11:52:01 | |DaMaGeD| | just ignre me if you hate me:D |
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| 12:24:10 | * | ThomasAH just ordered the Sansa Clip+ and hopes that it will eventually be rockboxed |
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| 13:18:34 | |DaMaGeD| | sh!t |
| 13:18:46 | |DaMaGeD| | who knows good MENU_API?) |
| 13:25:13 | Dgby714 | |DaMaGeD|: I don't but i might be able to help. |
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| 13:27:07 | |DaMaGeD| | #ifdef COWON_D2 |
| 13:27:08 | |DaMaGeD| | MENUITEM_SETTING(holdwps_pmin, &global_settings.hold_w_pm, NULL); |
| 13:27:08 | |DaMaGeD| | MENUITEM_SETTING(holdwps_menu, &global_settings.hold_w_menu, NULL); |
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| 13:27:08 | |DaMaGeD| | MAKE_MENU(holdwps_menu, ID2P(LANG_D2WPSHOLD), 0, Icon_NOICON, |
| 13:27:08 | |DaMaGeD| | &holdwps_pmin, &holdwps_menu); -here compiler halt and say that here's a redefinition of holdwps_menu |
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| 13:27:08 | |DaMaGeD| | #endif |
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| 13:28:39 | Dgby714 | ok mabye i can't help >.< |
| 13:28:54 | |DaMaGeD| | :D okay)) |
| 13:29:12 | Dgby714 | hmm where did you put that? |
| 13:29:33 | Dgby714 | next time you should use pastebin |
| 13:29:46 | |DaMaGeD| | Dgby714: /apps/menus/settings_menu.c |
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| 13:32:34 | * | Dgby714 is having problems with vmware on sec |
| 13:33:36 | rvvs89 | |DaMaGeD|: You have declared two variables with the same identifier |
| 13:33:52 | rvvs89 | In these two lines: 19:27 < |DaMaGeD|> MENUITEM_SETTING(holdwps_menu, &global_settings.hold_w_menu, NULL); |
| 13:34:02 | rvvs89 | 19:27 < |DaMaGeD|> MAKE_MENU(holdwps_menu, ID2P(LANG_D2WPSHOLD), 0, Icon_NOICON, &holdwps_pmin, &holdwps_menu); |
| 13:34:13 | rvvs89 | Rename one of the, |
| 13:34:17 | rvvs89 | s/,/m/ |
| 13:34:18 | Dgby714 | yeap |
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| 13:34:29 | |DaMaGeD| | Dgby714: aaahh |
| 13:34:33 | |DaMaGeD| | rvvs89: thx) |
| 13:34:45 | |DaMaGeD| | I'm comletely blind |
| 13:34:47 | rvvs89 | No worries |
| 13:34:55 | Dgby714 | so am i... |
| 13:34:58 | Dgby714 | lol |
| 13:35:18 | Dgby714 | o wow and my vmware drive js connected... |
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| 13:37:28 | |DaMaGeD| | hehe |
| 13:39:16 | |DaMaGeD| | O_o another err:( |
| 13:39:29 | |DaMaGeD| | now LANG_D2WPSHOLD is undeclared |
| 13:39:49 | CIA-85 | New commit by kugel (r23200): Fuze: Change the button to mark possibilities from a select+up combo to just select, which should be more easily discoverable. ... |
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| 13:47:43 | CIA-85 | New commit by kugel (r23201): Update the manual for r23200. |
| 13:48:11 | * | n1s spots the beast on the current build page |
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| 13:50:16 | pixelma | |DaMaGeD|: what are you trying to do? |
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| 14:00:47 | |DaMaGeD| | ))) |
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| 14:06:24 | Juozapas | hi! gScrobbler working with rockbox ? http://m0n5t3r.info/work/gscrobbler |
| 14:06:44 | mc2739 | Zagor: can you add the e200v2 and fuze to the nightly manual builds? |
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| 14:08:10 | Zagor | mc2739: hmm, I did that yesterday but no manuals were produced |
| 14:08:23 | Zagor | same with voice |
| 14:10:17 | Zagor | ah, my bad. they are not called 'sansafuze' and 'sansae200v2' in configure |
| 14:10:58 | mc2739 | naming inconsistency strikes again :) |
| 14:11:11 | Zagor | yeah. it's high time to get that fixed. |
| 14:11:33 | gevaerts | mc2739: you mean wrong assumptions about naming being consistent strike again :) |
| 14:12:09 | mc2739 | gevaerts: that, too |
| 14:14:01 | * | n1s wants a wiki admin to rename UiSimulator to UISimulator |
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| 14:14:46 | Zagor | n1s: can't anyone do that? |
| 14:15:19 | Zagor | in "more topic actions" |
| 14:15:39 | n1s | hmm, i assuemd it requiered admin access didn't try |
| 14:16:02 | rvvs89 | Hey, a few more questions |
| 14:16:12 | pamaury | Slasheri: ping |
| 14:16:32 | rvvs89 | What kinds of restrictions are there on data types in rockbox? |
| 14:16:43 | rvvs89 | ie, are there any portable 64 bit types |
| 14:16:50 | rvvs89 | or any weird non power of 2 types |
| 14:17:06 | n1s | Zagor: apparently it's not a "WikiWord" |
| 14:17:20 | Zagor | ah, right |
| 14:17:22 | n1s | i wonder if it's best left alone then or if i should force it |
| 14:17:46 | Zagor | I assume we still want it autolinked, in which case we'd better leave it along |
| 14:17:48 | Zagor | alone |
| 14:17:57 | n1s | yeah |
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| 14:31:34 | linuxstb | rvvs89: See firmware/include/inttypes.h |
| 14:32:16 | linuxstb | rvvs89: Apart from endianness, I think all our real targets have the same size datatypes (short, int, long etc). But the Rockbox UI simulator can run on 64-bit platforms. |
| 14:34:18 | rvvs89 | linuxstb: Can I assume that int is 32 bit? |
| 14:36:04 | linuxstb | I _think_ that's true today... |
| 14:36:28 | rvvs89 | Ok, I won't take any chances then |
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| 15:06:02 | n1s | yeah int is 32 bit on all our platforms, long may be 32 or 64 bits |
| 15:06:55 | rvvs89 | Ah, ok, thanks |
| 15:07:00 | n1s | but if you rely on int being strictly 32 bit an int32_t is provbably better |
| 15:11:29 | n1s | pixelma: FS #10276 can be closed now, right? |
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| 15:12:55 | Casainho | JdGordon: hello :-) −− I just received my Mini2440 system :-) |
| 15:13:51 | Casainho | kugel: hello :-) |
| 15:14:01 | kugel | hi |
| 15:14:18 | Casainho | kugel: did you got your board already? |
| 15:14:28 | kugel | no, but it should be on the way |
| 15:14:34 | kugel | maybe next week end |
| 15:14:55 | Casainho | kugel: ok, I wrote a blog message with a picture: http://lyre.sourceforge.net/?q=content/my-mini2440-board-just-arrived |
| 15:16:52 | kugel | you should've put an euro next to it to show its size :) |
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| 15:19:58 | Casainho | kugel: eheh, I forgot. I hope that soon be able to take another picture showing firmware running (I better picture than that of Bob) |
| 15:21:54 | * | n1s wonders what the table at the end of the database section of the browsing and playing chapter is supposed to describe and if it belongs there at all? |
| 15:22:47 | n1s | it's been there since that section was created 3.5 years ago by bluebroth3r ... |
| 15:27:33 | rvvs89 | Hmm, might be able to set up a buildbot |
| 15:27:59 | rvvs89 | What's the IP or IP block of the server(s) that sends out build requests? |
| 15:28:19 | rvvs89 | I either have a really fast or really slow connection to it :P |
| 15:28:53 | kugel | rvvs89: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/BuildServer |
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| 15:29:12 | kugel | eh, well, click on BuildClient on that page |
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| 15:30:27 | gevaerts | rvvs89: buildmaster.rockbox.org, which currently is 83.168.254.42 |
| 15:30:48 | gevaerts | not that it changes often, but servers have been known to move... |
| 15:31:07 | rvvs89 | http://traffictester.ucc.asn.au/?h=83.168.254.42 |
| 15:31:08 | rvvs89 | Curses |
| 15:31:17 | rvvs89 | Oh well |
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| 15:48:55 | shai | Hi :) Why does the volume stop at 6db when I turn it up? (iPod 30G 5th Gen.) |
| 15:49:11 | linuxstb | TheSeven: Have you seen http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10679 ? I'm wondering if some sector buffers could be made static, instead of putting them on the stack? It's getting messy to have to increase multiple stacks to compensate... |
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| 15:49:25 | linuxstb | shai: Because that's the maximum.... |
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| 15:49:52 | shai | For my specific module or something else limits that? |
| 15:49:59 | linuxstb | shai: You shouldn't use anything about 0dB, as that can cause clipping |
| 15:50:00 | Zagor | shai: the "volume" is really the attenuation. 0 dB is maxium undistorted volume. |
| 15:50:06 | shai | s/module/model |
| 15:50:42 | shai | Ok |
| 15:50:43 | linuxstb | shai: It's specific to the DAC inside your model. But that's a common value on various players. |
| 15:51:17 | TheSeven | linuxstb: well, yes, we can at least get rid of one of them. |
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| 15:52:08 | TheSeven | so that'll make up for 2KB. |
| 15:52:18 | TheSeven | (should be sufficiently protected by mutexes) |
| 15:52:50 | linuxstb | But will there still be others? (ignoring the function where the MBR is read - I think that's fine as it's just called during init) |
| 15:53:14 | TheSeven | i have no idea where the others are coming from, but obviously there must be some |
| 15:54:03 | TheSeven | there's only one of them remaining in the ftl right now, and that's only allocated during block commits, which will generally only happen on write operations, so I'm wondering how the dircache can be affected |
| 15:54:27 | TheSeven | i think some of them could still be hiding in the FAT FS code |
| 15:54:43 | linuxstb | TheSeven: There's one in ftl_copy_block - is that the one you are thinking can be removed? |
| 15:54:51 | TheSeven | yes |
| 15:55:21 | CIA-85 | New commit by mc2739 (r23202): Alphabetically sort manual builds |
| 15:55:24 | TheSeven | there may be more of these in things like ftl_copy_page, but only one of them will be active at a time, so we can just use the same bss buffer |
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| 15:58:31 | linuxstb | Most of the fat_* functions seem to have a sector buffer... |
| 15:59:19 | linuxstb | So if these are caling each other... |
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| 16:02:25 | rvvs89 | "Recent Rockbox versions need no reboots, just run the Rockbox binary from the Rockbox filebrowser and that'll be loaded and replace the currently running version." |
| 16:02:30 | rvvs89 | That's actually really impressive |
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| 16:04:45 | n1s | rvvs89: where is that quote from? rockbox has had that functionality for years |
| 16:05:05 | rvvs89 | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/HowToCompile |
| 16:05:18 | linuxstb | rvvs89: I'm not sure it's working reliably on ipods though... |
| 16:05:36 | rvvs89 | Well, I'll try it and see |
| 16:05:57 | n1s | linuxstb: it isn't? or just on the nano2g? |
| 16:06:27 | rvvs89 | Yeah, it loads fine, and very quickly |
| 16:06:42 | linuxstb | n1s: I remember playing with it around the time support for the COP was added. I recall there being problems, but maybe they were resolved... |
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| 16:07:22 | n1s | i haven't heard of any trouble but it's of course a function mostly devs use |
| 16:07:24 | linuxstb | rvvs89: Are you reloading the same Rockbox that's running at the moment? If there are problems, I think you will see them when trying to load a different version (caching issues etc). |
| 16:07:30 | TheSeven | it won't be that quick on the nano2g, as it'll need to do a storage_flush, which may take up to 5 seconds with that stupid FTL (even though we might be able to optimize this by writing on multiple banks in parallel) |
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| 16:14:01 | Torne | hm... the beast is supposed to charge while connected over usb, right? :) |
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| 16:14:36 | GodEater | Torne: only if the battery is above a certain voltage anyway |
| 16:14:44 | n1s | Torne: i think it can do that at least, not sure if we can choose not to |
| 16:14:45 | GodEater | otherwise it keeps wasting power trying to turn on the screen |
| 16:14:45 | Torne | Yah, i found that one before |
| 16:14:48 | GodEater | and gets stuck in a loop |
| 16:15:00 | Torne | it's powered enough to run rockbox just fine |
| 16:15:04 | Torne | but i left it plugged into usb overnight |
| 16:15:09 | GodEater | ah |
| 16:15:11 | n1s | GodEater: ah, another fine feature of the OF :) |
| 16:15:12 | Torne | and it didn't really charge |
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| 16:16:01 | GodEater | then yes, it's supposed to - but clearly isn't ;) |
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| 16:17:37 | Torne | ah well |
| 16:17:40 | Torne | i shall experiment more :) |
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| 16:17:56 | enthdegree | where is the rdf2binary tool for making dictionaries? |
| 16:18:25 | linuxstb | enthdegree: In the "tools" directory of the Rockbox source code. |
| 16:18:36 | enthdegree | Thanks |
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| 16:30:49 | * | TheSeven has the impression that ccache in fact slows down compiling on his machine |
| 16:32:07 | |DaMaGeD| | how you do this "status" messages? |
| 16:32:38 | TheSeven | |DaMaGeD|: which kind of status messages? |
| 16:32:55 | |DaMaGeD| | TheSeven: [18:30:51] TheSeven has the impression that ccache in fact slows down compiling on his machine |
| 16:33:10 | |DaMaGeD| | i'm noob in IRC and programming.:D |
| 16:36:33 | evilnick_ | |DaMaGeD|: I'm sure that IRC is explained in plenty of places around the internet, but that's off-topic for this channel |
| 16:37:07 | |DaMaGeD| | evilnick_: okay |
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| 16:38:25 | TheSeven | evilnick_: it isn't even only IRC, even things like Skype know /me by now |
| 16:38:55 | * | kugel has prepared his 4 patches for committing, but will wait another two hours or so |
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| 16:41:06 | gevaerts | kugel: maybe you should post them on the task then? |
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| 16:41:11 | enthdegree | rdf2binary gives an error when executed alone with two files in a directory. |
| 16:41:22 | kugel | gevaerts: good idea |
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| 16:41:56 | mnemoc | hi, may you recommend me any inexpensive/easy-to-find audio player to be used with rockbox? |
| 16:42:29 | enthdegree | I just bought a c200v1 off of ebay. |
| 16:42:56 | enthdegree | The only problem is it's rdf2binary |
| 16:42:56 | enthdegree | Error: Some files couldn't be opened |
| 16:43:00 | linuxstb | mnemoc: The BuyersGuide wiki page may be helpful - http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/BuyersGuide |
| 16:43:04 | enthdegree | oops, sorry. :P |
| 16:43:30 | mnemoc | linuxstb: thanks! |
| 16:44:13 | enthdegree | The only problem is it's sub-par screen. ( low pixel density, inconsistent colors ) But for $30 I think it's well worth it. |
| 16:44:16 | linuxstb | mnemoc: Generally, by the time Rockbox is ported to a device, that device isn't sold new in shops any more. So "easy-to-find" normally depends on your skill searching ebay... |
| 16:44:21 | kugel | FlynDice: ping |
| 16:44:51 | mnemoc | linuxstb: ic |
| 16:44:57 | FlynDice | kugel: Pong here but not much time right now.. |
| 16:45:10 | kugel | FlynDice: nevermind, I'll post my thinking to the forum |
| 16:45:14 | FlynDice | thx |
| 16:45:39 | enthdegree | ipod nano 2g is getting a port which I also tried out. R/B is still pretty rough around the edges, but it certainly has the best form factor. |
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| 16:48:54 | |DaMaGeD| | mnemoc: Cowon D2 is pretty good.) |
| 16:49:21 | * | mnemoc searchs |
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| 16:51:16 | Blue_Dude | kugel: Are you taking the lead on viewport issues? |
| 16:51:32 | kugel | not voluntarily, no :) |
| 16:52:03 | Blue_Dude | ok. Found a reproduceable bug... |
| 16:52:16 | enthdegree | exikt |
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| 16:52:58 | Blue_Dude | Looks like jdgordon is out, too. Darn. |
| 16:53:10 | kugel | Blue_Dude: put it on flyspray |
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| 16:54:35 | Blue_Dude | I'm not sure if it's something that can be reproduced with another WPS. I'll check some more. The progress bar blanks out on me when other viewports update. |
| 16:55:51 | kugel | Blue_Dude: do the viewports overlap? that's not supported |
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| 16:56:20 | kugel | it may or may not work, depending on the order things are redrawn |
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| 16:56:57 | Blue_Dude | I don't think so. But I'll chack to make sure they don't overlap by a pixel or two. |
| 16:56:57 | Blue_Dude | check |
| 16:57:25 | Blue_Dude | That's a good thought though. |
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| 17:29:35 | Kopfgeldjaeger | I just reinstalled rockbox with rbutil. Now fonts are pretty messed up and i cant read anything... I installed the extra font package |
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| 17:33:07 | |DaMaGeD| | Kopfgeldjaeger: what fonts do you used in prev RB? |
| 17:33:32 | Kopfgeldjaeger | No idea... I think I didnt change the standard settings |
| 17:36:46 | FlynDice | liquidAcid: Can you change line 369 in system-as3525.c from CVDD_1_10 to CVDD_1_20 and tell us the results? |
| 17:38:30 | liquidAcid | FlynDice, i'm afraid i have no crosscompiler installed here |
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| 17:40:18 | FlynDice | lemmee see if I can do it and post it on the forum.. |
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| 17:41:05 | liquidAcid | that would be nice |
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| 17:49:49 | Unhelpful | kugel: an idea occurs... what if you try passing the struct dim itself? it's register-sized... i wonder what the compiler would do if you tried to pass it directly instead of a pointer to it, both with and without the union hack |
| 17:51:15 | kugel | I thought about that, but that didn't appeal me really |
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| 17:52:34 | kugel | would it make a really difference? |
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| 17:52:48 | kugel | remember that this claim/release stuff is only happening once during theme parsing |
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| 17:55:24 | Unhelpful | kugel: don't know. it would also possibly be problematic on 64-bit... since 16+16=32 is not pointer size :) |
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| 17:56:44 | kugel | yes, that's why it doesn't appeal me. I don't want to rely on the struct layout/size at all, hence I don't like this, and the union thing |
| 17:57:45 | * | |DaMaGeD| hates self |
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| 17:59:35 | |DaMaGeD| | what is wrong with this str? |
| 17:59:38 | |DaMaGeD| | int button_read_device(int *data,bool hold_w_pm,bool hold_w_menu) |
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| 18:01:40 | rvvs89 | Without context, it is impossible to tell. |
| 18:01:52 | rvvs89 | However, you are either missing an open brace or a semicolon |
| 18:02:18 | |DaMaGeD| | ehm,stop,I found it) |
| 18:02:36 | Kopfgeldjaeger | So I got my rockbox working... anyway: How can I confirm text input (e.g. when searching files)? On my last version, i had to press Select for some seconds |
| 18:02:49 | Kopfgeldjaeger | (e200) |
| 18:02:56 | |DaMaGeD| | no,there was "conflicting types for button_read_device" |
| 18:03:34 | rvvs89 | So you fixed it? |
| 18:03:40 | n1s | Kopfgeldjaeger: the manual tells this |
| 18:06:08 | |DaMaGeD| | rvvs89: yes, in other file was string int −− button_read_device(int *data); −−- so I added bool's...don't know if it works,now compiling |
| 18:06:45 | |DaMaGeD| | ehm,without −−-'s |
| 18:08:15 | CIA-85 | New commit by torne (r23203): Gigabeat S: Add support for dumping the flash from debug menu ... |
| 18:09:55 | FlynDice | What's the best way to get a rockbox.zip file to a tester without a build environment available? |
| 18:10:47 | n1s | FlynDice: mail it to him? |
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| 18:11:28 | * | FlynDice facepalms forehead and shouts "I could have had a v8"... |
| 18:11:58 | |DaMaGeD| | rvvs89: yess,this works...but there's a ton of depencies,i.e. compiler err "too few args" on this func |
| 18:11:59 | FlynDice | liquidAcid: could I email you the file? |
| 18:12:11 | |DaMaGeD| | i will work this around |
| 18:13:26 | n1s | |DaMaGeD|: if you change the number of args to a function, you naturally have to change everywhere its called |
| 18:14:01 | markun | |DaMaGeD|: what are you working on? |
| 18:14:20 | * | TheSeven wonders if we are in a C language tutorial channel |
| 18:15:09 | |DaMaGeD| | markun: I'm adding a menu that will control use Cowon D2's plus\minus buttons as next\prev track |
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| 18:16:22 | |DaMaGeD| | markun: and now I think how do I send bool vars to a keypad control:) |
| 18:18:36 | markun | rockbox has a lot of settings. Just check how it is done in other places. |
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| 18:26:17 | |DaMaGeD| | markun: can i do #define trough menu_api? |
| 18:28:05 | TheSeven | huh? |
| 18:28:42 | TheSeven | |DaMaGeD|: #define is a preprocessor directive! |
| 18:29:10 | * | Torne wonders if it will upset all the theme developers if he changes which icon is used for the system menu ;) |
| 18:30:02 | Torne | last time i asked this i wasn't a committer ;) |
| 18:30:22 | Blue_Dude | kugel: ping! |
| 18:31:14 | * | TheSeven wonders how to best debug a lockup on usb connect |
| 18:31:15 | bertrik | Torne, this was already a little bit inconsistent between targets IIRC, right? |
| 18:31:22 | mc2739 | Torne: probably not, as long as it does not break their themes |
| 18:31:25 | Torne | not between targets, but between themes |
| 18:31:41 | Torne | basically: system menu uses Icon_Questionmark; system settings menu uses Icon_System_menu |
| 18:31:59 | Torne | I've looked at loads of themes and *most* themes have something that looks vaguely like a questoin mark for the former, and something tha tlooks like a cog for the latter |
| 18:32:13 | Torne | except Cabbie, and people who have copied cabbie. Cabbie has a lightbulb for Icon_Questoinmark instead.. |
| 18:32:25 | Torne | which looks really weird when used in things like the ratings menu |
| 18:32:31 | Torne | but looks kinda ok as the system menu icon. sorta. |
| 18:32:42 | saratoga | TheSeven: logf to disk! |
| 18:32:43 | kugel | Blue_Dude: pong |
| 18:33:17 | Torne | so whether anyone would consider that breaking their theme I'm not sure |
| 18:33:22 | bertrik | I, for one, wouldn't mind if we used something other than a question mark |
| 18:33:25 | Torne | for th eones tha actually have a questoin mark i'd consider it a distinct improvement |
| 18:33:25 | Blue_Dude | kugel: Sorry, premature ping. I thought I was onto something but reality asserted itself. |
| 18:33:26 | * | TheSeven is afraid that we're dealing with timing-critical code here, that seems to get stuck somewhere with a retriggering IRQ or something |
| 18:33:51 | Torne | bertrik: Icon_System_menu seems to be pretty consistently a cog on almost every theme, including cabbie |
| 18:34:06 | Torne | and it's even 8called* "system menu", despite the fact that only system settings uses it |
| 18:34:39 | mc2739 | I don't think changing an icon is breaking a theme |
| 18:34:50 | kugel | Blue_Dude: not a problem at all :) |
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| 18:35:32 | saratoga | huh i can't get MTs new fft code to work no matter what i do |
| 18:36:40 | * | Torne guesses the easiest way to find out if it will annoy theme developers is to commit it and wait for them to notice. :) |
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| 18:38:20 | kugel | Torne: I honestly don't think anyone will notice |
| 18:38:31 | Torne | kugel: I did! :) |
| 18:38:47 | Torne | the theme i happent o like has a really bold obvious black questionmark, see. :) |
| 18:38:51 | Torne | which looks really out of place |
| 18:39:06 | Torne | (but is reasonable the other places it's used) |
| 18:40:38 | kugel | this isn't really breakage IMO, just go for it |
| 18:41:17 | Torne | i'm just a little paranoid, having just been made a committer :) |
| 18:41:23 | |DaMaGeD| | TheSeven: sorry,my mistake)) |
| 18:42:03 | |DaMaGeD| | TheSeven: its the 1st day I see RB code,and all the C:) |
| 18:42:46 | CIA-85 | New commit by torne (r23204): Change the icon used for the System menu to the same as the System Settings menu. Previously it was Icon_Questionmark which seems out of place on many ... |
| 18:46:47 | Torne | hm. i should work out how to build the sim. :) |
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| 18:48:36 | rvvs89 | Torne: Only difference I can see (other than requesting a uisim configuration) is to run make fullinstall |
| 18:49:06 | Torne | rvvs89: ok, what i really mean is "i should install the libraries for X + SDL on my server" |
| 18:49:22 | rvvs89 | Hah right, I see |
| 18:49:30 | Torne | i don't build/develop on my desktop machine |
| 18:49:52 | rvvs89 | X is pretty cool like that |
| 18:51:05 | Torne | indeed, but the dependencies are probably reasonably big :) |
| 18:51:44 | rvvs89 | Perhaps, but not compared to a desktop environment |
| 18:52:12 | Torne | anyway, that's enough committing-all-the-things-in-my-build for now *g* |
| 18:52:15 | |DaMaGeD| | TheSeven: can I do like this?mean,will it work in keypad funcs? MENUITEM_SETTING(holdwps_pmin, &global_settings.hold_w_pm, NULL); |
| 18:52:20 | Torne | the rest probably need more testing |
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| 18:58:13 | Casainho | kugel: I got a picture with a coin and it running, bootin QTopia: http://lyre.sourceforge.net/?q=content/my-mini2440-board-just-arrived |
| 18:58:49 | Blue_Dude | kugel: Yeah, overlapping viewports. Fixed. That darn height default - "remaining part of the screen" - got me. |
| 18:59:41 | domonoky | Casainho: i just saw this too :-) (mine arrived just short ago) |
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| 19:00:23 | kugel | Blue_Dude: :) |
| 19:00:43 | Blue_Dude | Great idea. Thanks a lot. :) |
| 19:00:59 | domonoky | now to figure out how to put Bobs rockbox work on this mini2440 :-) |
| 19:04:25 | Casainho | domonoky: don't forget to use/read all the work Bob_C already done: http://lyre.sourceforge.net/?q=content/booting-rockbox-mini2440-part-1-0 |
| 19:04:41 | Casainho | domonoky: bootloader is done :-) |
| 19:05:00 | domonoky | thanks for the link :-) |
| 19:06:12 | domonoky | hm, but installing the bootloader with jtag sounds like too much work, with a working bootloader already there. |
| 19:06:43 | Casainho | domonoky: do as you like. JTAG will be nice to make debug, no? |
| 19:07:09 | Casainho | I don't know if Rockbox developers are used to JTAG debug, since many targets should not have it, I think |
| 19:07:36 | Bob_C | If you figure out how to put a Rockbox bootloader in, let me know. |
| 19:08:39 | Casainho | domonoky: will you be able to apply the first patch? |
| 19:09:42 | domonoky | i dont really investigated that yet, but i would think we could let supervivi download a bootloader to nand flash, which then boots and uses sd as storage. |
| 19:10:14 | domonoky | first i will try if i get jtag working and follow Bob_Cs work :-) |
| 19:10:53 | domonoky | fortunatly my PC has still a working parallel port :-) |
| 19:11:59 | Casainho | domonoky: nice ;-) −− I will make the same steps, tonight, try to install bootloader. I am working with a USB JTAG, and I have tools to cut and re-use the JTAG cable, for using the Olimex USB JTAG cable I have ;-) |
| 19:15:18 | Bob_C | In the long term it would be useful to have a non-JTAG bootstrap route. The NAND boot loads 4K into RAM, our bootloader is about 50K, so I guess we need an intermediate loader (or something) |
| 19:17:21 | Casainho | I must leave now. I will continue later. |
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| 19:20:54 | TheSeven | WTF? |
| 19:20:58 | TheSeven | /* TODO: implement a browser for charcell bitmaps */ |
| 19:21:53 | TheSeven | found at apps/logfdisp.c:218 |
| 19:23:55 | n1s | someone was lazy? :) |
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| 19:24:12 | TheSeven | "charcell bitmaps" !? |
| 19:24:18 | |DaMaGeD| | MENUITEM_SETTING(holdwps_menu, &global_settings.hold_w_menu, NULL); -how can I access var global_settings.hold_w_menu in other file?somebody help plz))) |
| 19:24:19 | n1s | aha |
| 19:24:38 | n1s | TheSeven: that is a bit of an oxymoron, isn't it? |
| 19:25:47 | n1s | |DaMaGeD|: the global_settings struct is global, you can access it from any file |
| 19:25:49 | TheSeven | exactly. |
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| 19:27:22 | |DaMaGeD| | n1s: hold_pm_old = global_settings.hold_w_pm; gives an error,global_settings undeclared |
| 19:28:01 | TheSeven | |DaMaGeD|: you'll probably need to include some header |
| 19:28:05 | |DaMaGeD| | before this error I was thinkin' the same way) |
| 19:28:55 | n1s | |DaMaGeD|: if you want good answers you need to provide more context and exact error messages, we can only guess from this but if you have the correct headers included and did add that member to the struct that should work |
| 19:29:30 | n1s | correct header is settings.h |
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| 19:30:58 | |DaMaGeD| | n1s: thx,will fix questions in future.) |
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| 19:40:39 | pixelma | n1s: re. closing the bug report: yes and no - framework for the button tables is there and filled out for a lot of H100 remote mappings, but not H300 and Iaudios and I don't think it's in the texts yet |
| 19:41:12 | n1s | pixelma: ah, i got impatient and closed it :) |
| 19:41:44 | n1s | anyway it was specifically fro getting into the context menu with h100 remote which IS covered |
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| 19:43:11 | n1s | should i reopen i? |
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| 19:43:14 | n1s | it* |
| 19:44:25 | CIA-85 | New commit by FlynDice (r23205): AMS Sansa: Lower ADC checkvalue for voltage scaling to 1.175V as some players run slightly low. |
| 19:44:54 | FlynDice | Thank you liquidAcid!! |
| 19:47:30 | pixelma | n1s: hmm, don't know. By the way... did you see my question/suggestion on the LatexGuidelinesTalk page? |
| 19:47:46 | n1s | nope, will check now |
| 19:48:22 | pixelma | it's about cleaning up the button table mess |
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| 19:51:48 | n1s | pixelma: i like your suggestion, haven't touched these butoonmaps in a while though but i can remember some horrible ones |
| 19:53:32 | * | |DaMaGeD| now knows why the most fearful book of Stephen King named IT! |
| 19:54:48 | * | domonoky sees a rockbox logo on his mini2440 :-) |
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| 20:11:37 | pixelma | n1s: any idea about the last items? |
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| 20:14:21 | n1s | pixelma: i like indenting more rather than less so i'd give it an extra level of indentation i guess about the directional keys vs up/down, etc i like consistency but don't really care which alternative is chosen |
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| 20:15:20 | crwl | wtf, sorry |
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| 20:17:37 | linuxstb | bluebrother: As no-one seems to be testing FS #10100, is there any harm in committing it anyway (perhaps with some debug logging), so it's included in the next release? Or does it make anything worse than currently? |
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| 20:35:59 | saratoga | FlynDice: according to Michael's battery bench, voltage scaling made a very small difference in power consumption to his e200v2 |
| 20:37:13 | saratoga | any idea why that might be? |
| 20:37:40 | |DaMaGeD| | TheSeven: veeery big thx) |
| 20:38:26 | TheSeven | saratoga: most of the power being used in a place that didn't get scaled? |
| 20:38:50 | saratoga | IIRC we had benchmarks showing it made a larger difference |
| 20:40:23 | TheSeven | saratoga: could it be as trivial as the patch not being applied correctly or something else going wrong on the PC side of things? |
| 20:41:45 | funman | saratoga: it should be compared with how much time is spent with cpu boosted (and voltage high) |
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| 20:42:25 | * | TheSeven will try undervolting his nano soon |
| 20:42:39 | TheSeven | now that we have a datasheet of the PMU |
| 20:44:42 | n1s | TheSeven: my test with a note trying to execute a simple busyloop shows no difference to a note that just crashes the OF |
| 20:45:23 | TheSeven | n1s: try MSR CPSR_c, #0xD3; loop: B loop |
| 20:45:36 | domonoky | strange, now that i flashed the first rockbox bootloader to the mini2440, i cant flash a new one with H-JTAG (flash id is incorrect), do we do some memory remapping which could confuse H_Flasher ? |
| 20:45:45 | TheSeven | which version of the notegen are you using? |
| 20:45:55 | domonoky | Bob_C: maybe you now something about this ? |
| 20:47:10 | * | TheSeven also wants to have such a thing to play with |
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| 20:47:43 | TheSeven | n1s: Looks like I haven't ever released my notegen patch... |
| 20:48:28 | n1s | TheSeven: i used bin2htm from the ibugger package but changed the address |
| 20:49:57 | Dhraakellian | just loaded r23205: no more whitescreen! |
| 20:50:00 | TheSeven | n1s: should work at least in theory, but i have made some improvements to that thing |
| 20:50:53 | domonoky | ah, flash address changed :-) |
| 20:50:54 | Dhraakellian | and I'm using an official build now! Thanks for the fuze sudoku keymap patch commit! |
| 20:51:02 | n1s | and MSR CPSR_c, #0xD3; loop: B loop doesn't feeze either it rebbots |
| 20:51:52 | n1s | TheSeven: gtg but will read logs if you come up with anything |
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| 20:55:51 | |DaMaGeD| | will you kill me because of another stupid question?) |
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| 20:59:59 | kugel | FlynDice: do you think that fixed the white screens? |
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| 21:00:28 | kugel | ah, Dhraakellian answered it, nice! :) |
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| 21:00:52 | TheSeven | n1s: I would suggest asking cmwslw and Farthen, they're also working on the 4g nano, and at least cmwslw seems to have a working notegen for it |
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| 21:01:46 | Dhraakellian | kugel: glad to help those who are helping me |
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| 21:05:16 | |DaMaGeD| | I'm trying to build a menu,but in action it shows "Not Done Yet!" |
| 21:05:18 | |DaMaGeD| | here's the code: |
| 21:05:18 | |DaMaGeD| | settings_menu.c: MENUITEM_SETTING(holdwps_menu, &global_settings.hold_w_menu, NULL); |
| 21:05:18 | |DaMaGeD| | settings_list.c: OFFON_SETTING(0, holdwps_menu, LANG_HOLD_MENU, false,"use menu as play\pause", NULL), |
| 21:05:18 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK |DaMaGeD| |
| 21:05:18 | |DaMaGeD| | hold_w_pm and hold_w_menu declared as boolean at settings.h. |
| 21:05:18 | |DaMaGeD| | if someone will help,it will be very good^) |
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| 21:06:18 | |DaMaGeD| | sorry for this |
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| 21:10:49 | rvvs89 | |DaMaGeD|: I don't see that string anywhere in the source tree so it must be something in your code. |
| 21:12:31 | rvvs89 | Ah, I do find it with a lowercase y though |
| 21:12:57 | |DaMaGeD| | rvvs89: mm.you mean SVN? |
| 21:13:38 | rvvs89 | If the setting is not configured properly, the menu will display "Not Done yet!" |
| 21:14:19 | rvvs89 | So that's why, your setting isn't configured properly, ie, callback is NULL. |
| 21:14:23 | kugel | let's see how the build system handles 5 commits ;) |
| 21:14:30 | CIA-85 | New commit by kugel (r23206): Change %mp tag to use current_playmode(). It has upto 9 values now, including recording and radio states. |
| 21:14:36 | CIA-85 | New commit by kugel (r23207): Add %cs tag. ... |
| 21:14:38 | CIA-85 | New commit by kugel (r23208): Make the skin engine behave sane if the skin's id3 pointer is NULL (the one in struct wps_state), so that skins don't need audio to be played before ... |
| 21:14:43 | CIA-85 | New commit by kugel (r23209): Rework albumart buffering internally to allow for mutliple albumart sizes. ... |
| 21:14:47 | CIA-85 | New commit by kugel (r23210): Make next_screen static and add a comment. |
| 21:15:53 | |DaMaGeD| | rvvs89: thanks,will fix it) |
| 21:16:03 | Bob_C | domonoky: there is an extra line needed in the HJTAG script to reset the MMU |
| 21:16:08 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 21:16:08 | * | |DaMaGeD| is away:gone digging code |
| 21:17:13 | kugel | |DaMaGeD|: don't do this here |
| 21:17:14 | kugel | I mean away announcements and the like |
| 21:17:14 | rvvs89 | |DaMaGeD|: I imagine callback is what is called when the menu item is selected, so what you are seeing probably indicates that your code is correct so far. |
| 21:17:17 | TheSeven | kugel: the build system will just skip some builds |
| 21:17:47 | domonoky | Bob_C: it worked fine, when i changed the flash address. :-) |
| 21:18:20 | domonoky | but now i have to somehow create a partition on my sdcard (it seems to be in superfloppy format, and fdisk doesnt seem to like my cardreader buit into my laptop) |
| 21:18:34 | Juozapas | does gscrobbler works with rockbox ? |
| 21:18:42 | Bob_C | ok, I added "softreset" to the start of the init script |
| 21:18:48 | |DaMaGeD| | rvvs89: y,wiki shows same thing |
| 21:18:55 | |DaMaGeD| | kugel: ok) |
| 21:20:12 | rvvs89 | |DaMaGeD|: If you do want to indicate away status, try /away |
| 21:20:43 | kugel | Zagor: my client seems to do nothing since 2 mins |
| 21:20:58 | TheSeven | domonoky: that's what hex editors that can access disks are good for :-) |
| 21:21:08 | |DaMaGeD| | rvvs89: I found forgotten "," in configs,will try compile with it |
| 21:21:15 | domonoky | TheSeven: :-) |
| 21:21:22 | kugel | shouldn't I get more builds until the round is finished? |
| 21:21:30 | |DaMaGeD| | rvvs89: 'k,will fix aways)) |
| 21:21:35 | TheSeven | partitioning these things manually will usually be done faster than trying to work out why partitioning tools fail |
| 21:22:09 | Zagor | kugel: there was a network timeout, which the build server doesn't handle very well |
| 21:22:16 | kugel | alright |
| 21:22:38 | Zagor | 21:17:08 Ending round due to lack of clients |
| 21:23:35 | kugel | :o |
| 21:24:40 | * | TheSeven is running out of ideas what could cause a UMS sector write to fail after transferring 2 of 4 packets of the data out stage |
| 21:24:53 | TheSeven | host side: EOVERFLOW, ipod side: waiting for data, forever |
| 21:26:37 | bertrik | maybe there's a USB packet FIFO on the device side that gets full, don't you have to mark an incoming buffer as "handled" or anything like that |
| 21:26:39 | Bob_C | domonoky: I did a format from windows |
| 21:26:52 | gevaerts | TheSeven: what packet size is it using, and what speed? |
| 21:27:14 | TheSeven | Full Speed, 512 byte packets |
| 21:27:23 | TheSeven | it's transferring 1024 bytes and then failing somehow |
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| 21:28:00 | TheSeven | bertrik: it's all DMA, and FIFOs are ~6KB |
| 21:28:14 | gevaerts | TheSeven: full speed can't use 512 byte packets... |
| 21:28:36 | TheSeven | huh? why that? |
| 21:28:46 | TheSeven | i thought only low speed would be limited to 64 bytes? |
| 21:29:02 | gevaerts | low speed doesn't do bulk at all |
| 21:29:27 | TheSeven | and the endpoint descriptors claim to have a maxpacket of 512 |
| 21:29:44 | * | gevaerts looks at the code |
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| 21:29:58 | TheSeven | and i used to successfully transfer 528-byte-packets over full speed using ibugger |
| 21:30:05 | |DaMaGeD| | rvvs89: nope,it doesn't help |
| 21:30:15 | bertrik | weird |
| 21:30:25 | TheSeven | 512 bytes is an artificial limit, too, introduced by UMS |
| 21:30:29 | rvvs89 | |DaMaGeD|: You mean implementing callback? |
| 21:30:31 | TheSeven | USB can handle up to 1024, i think |
| 21:30:34 | gevaerts | no |
| 21:31:01 | gevaerts | bulk does 8 to 64 byte packets on full speed, and 512 byte packets on high speed |
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| 21:31:22 | gevaerts | is usb_drv_port_speed() implemented? |
| 21:31:25 | |DaMaGeD| | rvvs89: no,sometimes theres a stupid error about skipped ","s |
| 21:31:50 | |DaMaGeD| | rvvs89: i'm alling asleep,so will work on callbacks tomorrow |
| 21:31:51 | |DaMaGeD| | *falling |
| 21:31:57 | TheSeven | bah, that's further complicating things a lot |
| 21:32:28 | rvvs89 | |DaMaGeD|: Oh, you have a comma after the second line you pasted. |
| 21:32:36 | rvvs89 | Probably want a semicolon there |
| 21:32:36 | gevaerts | do you actually have to care about packet size except for telling the controller what it is? |
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| 21:33:07 | rvvs89 | That line was: settings_list.c: OFFON_SETTING(0, holdwps_menu, LANG_HOLD_MENU, false,"use menu as play\pause", NULL), |
| 21:33:23 | TheSeven | I hope not, but that means i need to have a look into speed detection again |
| 21:33:24 | rvvs89 | Then again, that depends on the macro, it might need to be a semicolon |
| 21:33:46 | rvvs89 | s/semicolon/comma/ |
| 21:33:50 | roolku | zagor: yesterday I discovered that most of my clients were showing this duplicate name error and not taking part in any builds. I restarted them all (bit of a pain) |
| 21:34:04 | gevaerts | you could hardcode it to full speed for now, to see if that's the only issue |
| 21:34:14 | roolku | Zagor: do you know what is causing it and is there a way to fix it at the server side? |
| 21:34:19 | Zagor | roolku: oh that's what they were doing? I wonder why that happens :-( |
| 21:34:48 | roolku | Zagor: I suspect lillebror2-zagor is doing the same thing if you want to check it out |
| 21:34:51 | domonoky | Bob_C: i got it to partition/format now, but it still says "no partition found" i think that needs more investigation later. (maybe it doesnt like my card?) |
| 21:35:21 | roolku | Zagor: on rasher.dk/rockbox/buildgraphs/graph.php?r=23199&debug">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/buildgraphs/graph.php?r=23199&debug they have lots of abandoned builds when this happens |
| 21:35:30 | Zagor | indeed it does |
| 21:35:45 | |DaMaGeD| | rvvs89: no,in SVN version theres a comma after last item |
| 21:36:38 | rvvs89 | |DaMaGeD|: My bad then |
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| 21:38:23 | Bob_C | domonoky: Could be a problem with the SD driver, it probably has some bugs |
| 21:38:31 | Zagor | roolku: it's a server bug. I see it. |
| 21:38:45 | Bob_C | I have used a 2GB SD and a 4GB SDHC so far |
| 21:39:01 | |DaMaGeD| | rvvs89: you better then me) |
| 21:39:25 | domonoky | i will try to fiddle with that sd driver later :-) ( i have 512MB sd card) |
| 21:40:14 | |DaMaGeD| | rvvs89: what device do you use? |
| 21:40:25 | rvvs89 | |DaMaGeD|: iPod 5G |
| 21:40:34 | Bob_C | If you attach to the serial port, there is a load of debug. Doesn't work at all when debug is off, so clearly a major bug there somewhere |
| 21:40:54 | rvvs89 | |DaMaGeD|: I mainly do things with iPodLinux though |
| 21:41:24 | domonoky | cool, dual boot on the mini2440. Qtopia on the nand still works :-) |
| 21:42:54 | Torne | what platforms use greylib? |
| 21:43:31 | |DaMaGeD| | rvvs89: mm.got it) |
| 21:44:45 | amiconn | Torne: It should be ported to all currently supported b&w and greyscale bitmap targets |
| 21:44:47 | kugel | domonoky: dual boot rockbox and what? |
| 21:45:00 | domonoky | kugel: linux |
| 21:45:01 | kugel | is there some OS preinstalled? |
| 21:45:01 | Torne | amiconn: ah, ok |
| 21:45:13 | roolku | Zagor: cool, fixable I hope |
| 21:45:22 | Zagor | yeah, working on it now |
| 21:45:30 | Torne | amiconn: i'm gonna change the scroll functions as per FS #10330 so that if you scroll by the size of the screen or more it clears the screen isntead of doing nothing. does that sound reasonable? :) |
| 21:45:48 | kugel | domonoky: do we need a rockbox bootloader or can we run the main binary right away using the installed one? |
| 21:45:49 | domonoky | kugel: linux is preinstalled, and there are images for ce and uCos provided. |
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| 21:46:04 | amiconn | Sounds kinda unnecessary (but somewhat logical too) |
| 21:46:16 | Torne | amiconn: well, it saves teh caller ahving to check |
| 21:46:23 | Torne | and it's just a tailcall |
| 21:46:24 | domonoky | kugel: there is already a nearly working bootloader (see tracker and lyre repository) |
| 21:46:30 | rvvs89 | Is there some boolean type I should be using when writing code for Rockbox? |
| 21:46:39 | Torne | amiconn: a plugin i was writing did it sometimes and i didn't work out what was wrong for a while |
| 21:46:49 | |DaMaGeD| | rvvs89: interesting,iPL can open Linux binaries? |
| 21:46:55 | kugel | domonoky: I'm still wondering whether we need a bootloader at all :) |
| 21:47:01 | |DaMaGeD| | rvvs89: what do you mean? |
| 21:47:04 | Torne | amiconn: the code size delta should be tiny or even zero |
| 21:47:19 | Zagor | rvvs89: yes, 'bool' |
| 21:47:38 | rvvs89 | Zagor: Where is this defined? |
| 21:47:40 | amiconn | It's pluginlib only anyway. It would only be bad if a plugin won't fit anymore due to that |
| 21:47:58 | Torne | amiconn: on ARM at least the delta should be 0 if the compiler is worth a damn: tailcalling a function with no args |
| 21:48:01 | amiconn | But you're right - if you do this, it would be a good idea to adapt the greylib as well. |
| 21:48:07 | kugel | Zagor: did the build system die completely now? |
| 21:48:09 | domonoky | kugel: with some trickery it would perhaps be possible to get started by the existing bootloader. but i am unsure if its worth the effort if we have a nearly working bootloader. |
| 21:48:14 | Torne | yeah, i've done it for greylib also now, am just testing it still builds ;) |
| 21:48:28 | amiconn | Just note that the greylib has two modes of operation, each having its own set of scroll functions |
| 21:48:40 | Torne | amiconn: yes, changed both to uset he matching clear_screen's |
| 21:48:51 | kugel | domonoky: are there space constraints? Otherwise I would think it's just a matter of calling the correct main() |
| 21:48:57 | Zagor | kugel: no, it just doesn't update the table on client-loss-round-end |
| 21:49:08 | gevaerts | domonoky: the existing bootloader is uboot? |
| 21:49:23 | Zagor | rvvs89: in gcc:s header stdbool.h |
| 21:49:23 | kugel | Zagor: yea, but it still doesn't build anything, does it? |
| 21:49:43 | kugel | and lots of restarts here |
| 21:49:45 | rvvs89 | Zagor: Ah, right, so Rockbox is written in C99? |
| 21:49:47 | Zagor | kugel: no, it doesn't start new rounds since it had no clients... |
| 21:50:11 | Zagor | rvvs89: yes, gnu99 |
| 21:50:25 | Zagor | kugel: yeah I'm working on the duplicate name bug, which requires some restart |
| 21:50:32 | domonoky | kugel: there surely are some space constrains, but i dont know them at moment :-) |
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| 21:51:04 | rvvs89 | |DaMaGeD|: iPL allows you to compile quite a lot of code (written for Linux) for iPodLinux. This makes writing and porting code easier, but it's not as efficient or as widely used as Rockbox. |
| 21:51:23 | kugel | Zagor: ah, alright. can we have a build so I know about my reds? ;) |
| 21:51:35 | Zagor | kugel: commit something :) |
| 21:51:36 | domonoky | gevaerts: no its supervivi and its a bit more then a bootloader, more a bootmanager or alike |
| 21:51:57 | Zagor | kugel: wait a bit. I'll try to squash this dupe name bug and then I'll start a new round |
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| 21:52:23 | gevaerts | domonoky: ah, ok. I don't know anything about that |
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| 21:52:43 | domonoky | gevaerts: i also just learned about it from the usermanual :-) |
| 21:53:00 | TheSeven | gevaerts: usb_drv_port_speed does return true on high speed? |
| 21:53:06 | * | gevaerts would have hoped they used uboot |
| 21:53:19 | gevaerts | TheSeven: yes |
| 21:53:33 | FlynDice | saratoga re: Battery runtimes, I got my best times when I lowered the voltage to 1.05 volts and we did not do a check on the voltage returning to 1.20. We solved the uSD problems by boosting during disk access but I wouldn't think that would have a large impact. |
| 21:53:37 | Torne | amiconn: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10330?getfile=20711 updated patch if you want to look? |
| 21:53:49 | Bob_C | supervivi loads on a NOR boot, I thought uboot is used on a NAND boot |
| 21:54:27 | * | kugel sees that the yh820 is unstable but doesn't have a entry on the download page, and the beast being unusable but having a build on the download page |
| 21:54:29 | domonoky | uboot is also provided on the cd, so maybe its really on the nand |
| 21:54:48 | gitster | kugel: thanks for r23199 (FS #10673). I have two more for you (or other committers) to look at (FS #10680 and FS #10681) ;-). |
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| 21:55:07 | gevaerts | I'm pretty sure that uboot can load a file from disk to ram and run it |
| 21:55:17 | bertrik | FlynDice, I vaguely remember some pretty weird restrictions on the sd clock vs. cpu clock from the datasheet, I'll have a closer look at it again |
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| 21:56:03 | AlexP | I'm going to have a look at the beast install instructions - IIRC that is what is stopping it being unstable |
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| 21:57:10 | Torne | uboot generally supports most/all of the storage devices on the platform and is quite able to read from FAT/etc to load, yes |
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| 21:58:12 | kugel | gitster: maybe 100 should be the last value in the cond. list? |
| 21:58:23 | kugel | usually the last slot is used for special vales |
| 21:58:26 | FlynDice | bertrik: I can run them at any FCLK I just can't run them at MCICLK != PCLK and (PCLK == MCLK as far as we can tell) |
| 21:58:47 | kugel | but I'm unsure |
| 21:59:12 | kugel | bertrik: what about the dbop patch? |
| 21:59:25 | roolku | Zagor: while you are in debugging mode - can you fix the truncated build logs as well? e.g. http://build.rockbox.org/data/23204-clients.html |
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| 22:01:33 | bertrik | kugel, I think we can get away with doing no dbop locking at all, as long as we make sure the dbop bus is idle (i.e. FIFO is empty) before doing the read |
| 22:02:00 | bertrik | this means that the button_read_device interrupt may have to wait a bit some time, but it's actually not that bad |
| 22:02:08 | Torne | amiconn: hrm, ok, it' snot quite as small as i hoped because of going through the plugin api, but it's pretty teeny :) |
| 22:03:08 | kugel | bertrik: no it's not, SVN is doing that too :) |
| 22:04:00 | bertrik | at most it has to wait for 66 us (when the FIFO is completely full) on the fuze, that's about 1.3% max of total processor time |
| 22:04:21 | kugel | I think only the soc->dbop connection is slow (hence a lcd update takes 1ms for us), the dbop->lcd transfer is quite fast |
| 22:05:09 | kugel | or what you said :P |
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| 22:06:15 | bertrik | and we don't *have* to keep the FIFO entirely full, just full enough to make sure there's no gap between each word |
| 22:07:14 | bertrik | so basically I'd like to take your latest patch and simplify it further |
| 22:07:14 | kugel | bertrik: do you want to have a look at my udelay() ? |
| 22:07:39 | kugel | the problem is that it's inaccurate for even usecs since the freq of the timer is 1.5MHz |
| 22:07:46 | TheSeven | gevaerts: you're an absolute guru. |
| 22:08:21 | TheSeven | thanks, that in fact fixed it (along with some wrong register definition in a header file fooling me) |
| 22:08:59 | kugel | so, usb works? |
| 22:09:39 | bertrik | I think it's useful to have a udelay, but I'm still convinced a dummy read would be just as effective |
| 22:09:50 | gevaerts | TheSeven: good news! |
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| 22:10:50 | TheSeven | kugel: USB works at full speed + linux, but locks up on high speed + windows |
| 22:10:59 | TheSeven | still need to find out whether high speed or rather windows is the issue here |
| 22:11:02 | kugel | screw windows, that's totally awesome! |
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| 22:12:22 | TheSeven | too bad that i don't have a USB1.1 hub laying around to force windows to use full speed |
| 22:12:50 | TheSeven | ah wait, there's still a USB1.1 laptop in the basement, let me check with that |
| 22:14:21 | amiconn | I think Windows should fall back to fullspeed if you disable the ehci controller in device manager |
| 22:14:31 | gevaerts | ah yes, that works |
| 22:14:59 | ender` | you can usually also disable USB2.0 in BIOS |
| 22:15:04 | amiconn | I know this was suggested for linux, and just thought it should work on windows as well |
| 22:15:14 | CIA-85 | New commit by torne (r23211): Pluginlib: make scroll functions clear screen if scrolled by >= screen size (from FS #10330) |
| 22:15:21 | amiconn | ender`: That will need a reboot, bah! |
| 22:15:27 | ender` | haha |
| 22:17:16 | TheSeven | gevaerts: I just don't want to disable the EHCI |
| 22:17:27 | TheSeven | i'd rather try to force it to full speed from the ipod side |
| 22:17:34 | TheSeven | but bad news: it works on USB1.1 windows :-/ |
| 22:20:58 | pamaury | gevaerts: what is not working under windows ? No target works at high speed or is it a driver specific issue ? |
| 22:23:55 | TheSeven | pamaury: I'd assume it's driver specific, as the driver is still pretty buggy |
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| 22:25:37 | Zagor | kugel: checkwps doesn't look happy |
| 22:25:39 | amiconn | Zagor: Do you know where the missing delta values went? |
| 22:26:00 | amiconn | Onda VX767, Player, H10, H100 |
| 22:26:36 | bluebrother | Zagor: can you move a file to the download server? |
| 22:26:41 | amiconn | Player can't have a delta since it's red, but the other three should |
| 22:27:02 | Zagor | bluebrother: sure |
| 22:27:50 | bluebrother | Zagor: file in question is the source tarball for latest rbutil: http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/rbutil-1.2.3.tar.bz2 |
| 22:29:44 | bertrik | FlynDice, I was indeed thinking about the Fp >= 3/8 Fm clock requirement |
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| 22:30:10 | CIA-85 | New commit by kugel (r23212): initial custom statusbar commit |
| 22:30:25 | kugel | oooops |
| 22:30:28 | kugel | wrong branch! |
| 22:30:32 | FlynDice | Damn I was hoping you were on to something ! |
| 22:31:01 | spacecadet | hello. I have a question regarding doing a completely manual install |
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| 22:31:35 | TheSeven | gevaerts: what am i supposed to use as vendor/product id btw? |
| 22:32:07 | gevaerts | TheSeven: the same as the OF |
| 22:32:11 | bluebrother | spacecadet: just ask |
| 22:33:14 | CIA-85 | New commit by bluebrother (r23213): Move rbutil documents into a separate subfolder. |
| 22:33:23 | Zagor | amiconn: the ondavx767 rockbox-info.txt says it's a H10... |
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| 22:34:06 | CIA-85 | New commit by kugel (r23214): Revert r23212, I committed it accidentally. |
| 22:34:40 | spacecadet | I have an ipod- 4'th gen 20gb greyscale. I am using a bsd system which won't run your fine pre-compiled linux binaries. I got the rockbox 3.4 zip, and I can unzip it ok, but I can't run ipodpatcher. |
| 22:34:55 | CIA-85 | New commit by kugel (r23215): Fix Player, checkwps and database tools |
| 22:35:17 | spacecadet | Is there any way to manually install the bootloader? |
| 22:35:32 | Llorean | The easiest way is to manually compile ipodpatcher or rbutil |
| 22:36:10 | spacecadet | Do you have a source url for that? |
| 22:36:10 | amiconn | Compiling ipodpatcher is much easier than compiling rbutil though, as the latter needs Qt |
| 22:36:51 | TheSeven | ok, USB now also works with dcache enabled |
| 22:37:10 | Llorean | spacecadet: There's a source link on the download page, though the better way is to use SVN |
| 22:37:58 | spacecadet | I found the bootloader-ipod4g.ipod and mbmbr-4g-20gb.bin, I'm supposing ipodpatcher puts those into place on the ipod? |
| 22:38:21 | TheSeven | yes |
| 22:38:32 | Torne | ipodpatcher isntalls the bootloader. you don't need the mbr unless youa re manually recovering the ipod |
| 22:38:39 | TheSeven | probably only the first one though, don't see why it should change the MBR at all |
| 22:39:34 | spacecadet | Does the ipodpatcher do anything besides copying the bootloader file to the drive? |
| 22:39:43 | * | TheSeven wonders what can make the ipod lock up at high speed, but not at full speed |
| 22:39:59 | TheSeven | spacecadet: the bootloader file needs to be embedded into the "osos" file in the firmware partition |
| 22:40:12 | spacecadet | ok |
| 22:40:16 | Torne | spacecadet: the firmware paritition is not a normal filesystem, you need *some* special tool to access it. ours is ipodpatcher :) |
| 22:40:31 | Torne | it appends the bootloader to what's already in osos, and changes the header to point to that |
| 22:40:38 | TheSeven | Torne: or a hexedit and enough knowledge about the structures in there :-P |
| 22:40:49 | Torne | TheSeven: That counts as special :) |
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| 22:41:09 | spacecadet | is there a fixed location it goes into? I could maybe use dd if there was |
| 22:41:27 | TheSeven | spacecadet: it also involves tinkering with that header |
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| 22:41:51 | TheSeven | or rather directory structure, even though it doesn't really deserve being called like that |
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| 22:42:19 | spacecadet | When I looked at the source link on the main page, it looked like the source for rockbox itself rather than the source for ipodpatcher |
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| 22:42:48 | bluebrother | spacecadet: the source for ipodpatcher is below the rbutil/ipodpatcher folder in svn. |
| 22:43:15 | spacecadet | I'll look |
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| 22:43:43 | bluebrother | you should be able to check out only that folder and simply compile it by running make |
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| 22:46:04 | TheSeven | gevaerts: do you also know why it's failing at high speed? |
| 22:46:14 | gevaerts | no, sorry |
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| 22:48:40 | spacecadet | Can't find the folder for the ipodpatcher source. Do you have an exact url? |
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| 22:48:56 | buckwheat | does any body know the deadline of rockbox for sansa fuze v2? |
| 22:49:46 | Torne | There are no deadlines or release dates |
| 22:49:52 | bertrik | buckwheat, nobody knows |
| 22:49:52 | Torne | It will be available once it works |
| 22:50:05 | buckwheat | oh ok thank you |
| 22:51:12 | TheSeven | buckwheat: even if we had a deadline, you probably know how they work. |
| 22:51:18 | TheSeven | or rather fail to work :-) |
| 22:51:27 | buckwheat | ya... |
| 22:52:18 | buckwheat | i just want to know when i can get it for my sansa fuze i had to get one because my e250 broke |
| 22:52:35 | TheSeven | what are the usual tricks for debugging rockbox lockups? |
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| 22:54:38 | linuxstb | spacecadet: See http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingSVN to checkout the Rockbox source code, then just do "cd rbutil/ipodpatcher" and then "make" |
| 22:54:49 | TheSeven | can anybody have a look what the Vendor/Product ID of the iPod Nano 2G OFW is? I don't have it installed right now |
| 22:55:26 | linuxstb | TheSeven: Sure, one moment.... |
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| 22:55:42 | linuxstb | TheSeven: Shouldn't it be the same as disk mode in ROM? |
| 22:55:50 | TheSeven | not sure |
| 22:56:07 | TheSeven | gevaerts: something in the USB whitchery seems to be relying on UNCACHED_ADDR being defined, which is neither needed nor good for nano2g |
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| 22:56:45 | linuxstb | TheSeven: In disk mode, it's 0x05ac (Apple, Inc.) 0x1260 (iPod Nano 2.Gen). I'll reboot into the OF now... |
| 22:56:50 | rhcp1253 | does anybody know what the filenames of the pacman roms are i have them but i don't no wich one are rite |
| 22:57:24 | yelped | Can someone check out http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10678 |
| 22:57:42 | linuxstb | rhcp1253: The Rockbox manual should list them, along with md5 checksums. |
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| 22:57:55 | rhcp1253 | thanx |
| 22:58:31 | rhcp1253 | btw i just got rbox running on my ipod nano 2g and doom is so much faster than on 5g video |
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| 22:59:17 | linuxstb | rhcp1253: That's not surprising - the CPU in the Nano2G is twice as fast as the video, and the LCD a 1/4 the size... |
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| 23:01:08 | linuxstb | TheSeven: Same IDs in the OF. |
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| 23:02:38 | spacecadet | Any way to to get the ipodpatcher code without svn, maybe as a tgz? |
| 23:02:38 | LambdaCalculus37 | linuxstb: I guess I just caught you in the middle of mentioning mpegplayer speed on the nano2g. :) |
| 23:02:44 | TheSeven | gevaerts: where is USB_DEVBSS_ATTR supposed to come from? config-<whatever>.h? |
| 23:02:47 | linuxstb | LambdaCalculus37: No... |
| 23:02:51 | LambdaCalculus37 | I was about to say that mpegplayer is working very nicely on the nano. |
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| 23:04:01 | gevaerts | TheSeven: no, one of the SoC headers, like pp5020.h, dm320.h, imx31l.h, ... |
| 23:04:35 | yelped | Can someone check out http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10678? It's a bug with mp3encoder. |
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| 23:04:43 | TheSeven | gevaerts: and what's the matter with UNCACHED_ADDR? |
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| 23:07:01 | gevaerts | TheSeven: hm, that might be PP specific. Maybe the #if CONFIG_CPU.. in usb_storage.c:438 should be inverted to check for PP instead of all the others |
| 23:07:13 | bertrik | FlynDice, do you know what kind of clocks the pl180 gets from the SoC and what clocks it produces for the uSD card? |
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| 23:08:56 | * | bertrik is confused by some parts of the card_info struct |
| 23:09:50 | FlynDice | bertrik: I believe the pl180 gets the PCLK signal from the SOC and uses it as MCLK. saratoga hooked a card up to a meter and found 62 MHz(our PCLK freq) as the mosyt prominent signal |
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| 23:10:16 | TheSeven | gevaerts: so only PP is stealing the audio buffer? |
| 23:10:20 | bertrik | that's with the MCI clock divider set to bypass, right? |
| 23:10:27 | FlynDice | we then put a divider on that to come up with MCICLK |
| 23:10:45 | FlynDice | or bypass to use MCICLK== PCLK |
| 23:10:48 | gevaerts | TheSeven: I'm not entirely sure actually. |
| 23:11:04 | TheSeven | the code looks like the other targets use the BSS |
| 23:11:26 | gevaerts | yes, and I don't really know why actually |
| 23:11:28 | TheSeven | (which makes up for 128KB of ramsize) |
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| 23:12:05 | FlynDice | I can use the divider to bring the card freq down to 400 kHz for the ident stage. This comm happens over the CMD line and not the DAT lines though |
| 23:12:08 | bertrik | FlynDice, so, 62 MHz is probably out-of-spec for sd-cards and the next possible lower frequency is 31 MHz, right? |
| 23:12:18 | FlynDice | Correct |
| 23:12:54 | FlynDice | That's what I've been trying to get to unsuccessfully so far, the cards are rslightly overclocked |
| 23:14:30 | bertrik | If we'd run PCLK at 50 MHz we could reach the max SD speeds exactly, but maybe the audio clocks would be off then |
| 23:14:41 | FlynDice | Another mystery is that we need the IDE clock for at least the internal card to function but we don't know what it does exactly... |
| 23:14:46 | bertrik | (to approximate 44100 Hz sampling frequency I mean) |
| 23:14:54 | TheSeven | what SOC are you guys talking about? |
| 23:15:13 | FlynDice | I've run at PCLK = 50 MHz just fine |
| 23:15:22 | bertrik | FlynDice, maybe the IDE clock is used as MCLK by the sd controller |
| 23:16:03 | spacecadet | linuxstb, is there any way to get the entire packge (tgz?) without svn? |
| 23:16:22 | bertrik | TheSeven, the as3525 that's inside the ams sansas |
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| 23:16:53 | FlynDice | That's what I thought might be going on but saratoga's tests at least showed it was not true for the uSD, but we can't really test for the internal |
| 23:17:29 | FlynDice | 2 pl180 controllers |
| 23:17:39 | bertrik | maybe the IDE clock ran at the same frequency as the PCLK |
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| 23:20:00 | FlynDice | I think I tried that but quite frankly the more I got into this SD stuff the more I started to need to be carted off to the looney bin..;) I 'll give that a shot again! |
| 23:20:16 | spacecadet | thanks, I guess, bye. |
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| 23:20:35 | bertrik | by the way, I noticed we try to set a higher clock based on whether it responds to SEND_IF_COND 0x1AA, but shouldn't we look at the CSD instead? |
| 23:21:01 | * | bertrik should look up the SD specifications |
| 23:21:51 | FlynDice | SEND_IF_COND determines whether it'd a v1 or v2 card and if the voltage ranges are compatible |
| 23:22:01 | rhcp1253 | my ipod nano just got a panic after i initilaed the database it says "*PANIC* FTL:Scheduling bank 0 block 549 for remap!" |
| 23:22:27 | FlynDice | We're not really setting a higher speed for those cards we're setting different timings internal to the card |
| 23:22:43 | TheSeven | rhcp1253: which revision? |
| 23:23:31 | rhcp1253 | r23205-091016 if u mean the software |
| 23:23:48 | TheSeven | shit |
| 23:24:08 | TheSeven | so there's in fact some issue, and it's not just liar's ipod that's doing this |
| 23:24:32 | rhcp1253 | i just rebooted its fine but happens everytime i try database |
| 23:24:53 | TheSeven | ok, then it could in fact be a bad block... |
| 23:25:20 | rhcp1253 | if this helps the model # isA1199 |
| 23:25:22 | TheSeven | is it always the same bank/block number? |
| 23:25:44 | rhcp1253 | let me do it again |
| 23:26:22 | rhcp1253 | no this time its 4301 |
| 23:26:31 | TheSeven | not good at all. |
| 23:26:35 | FlynDice | There is a register to check but I don't think we can access it just yet, we can get responses over the CMD line but not from the DAT lines right now and that info gets returned in a long response over DAT0 |
| 23:26:40 | TheSeven | so there's really something wrong with flash power management |
| 23:27:10 | rhcp1253 | code crunchin time |
| 23:27:32 | TheSeven | the worst thing is that i've never seen it on my ipod, so i can hardly do anything about it |
| 23:28:21 | rhcp1253 | well can i send u any files that can help |
| 23:28:33 | rhcp1253 | btw i m on mac |
| 23:28:35 | bertrik | FlynDice, aren't we now always using the clock bypass bit in MCI_CLOCK? |
| 23:29:20 | FlynDice | bertrik: yes, that's the only way to get the internal to function |
| 23:29:38 | | Part froggyman |
| 23:30:07 | FlynDice | I can drop the uSD to 31 and go to 4bit databus and get partial function |
| 23:30:56 | bertrik | I have a borrowed c200v2 now so I can experiment a bit now too |
| 23:32:18 | FlynDice | I can get 4bit widebus to init and can browse files and album art but it coughs when trying to play |
| 23:33:24 | bertrik | IMO, it's no real use to try to debug while we are certain some parts are still overclocked |
| 23:34:14 | rhcp1253 | anybody else have a 2g nano with the model #A1199 |
| 23:35:48 | FlynDice | I hear you on that but I can't make it work...:( |
| 23:36:12 | bertrik | no offense meant by the way |
| 23:36:24 | FlynDice | none taken;) |
| 23:37:03 | FlynDice | this is what I do instead of sudoku puzzles.. ;) |
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| 23:42:25 | TheSeven | rhcp1253: doesn't every 2g nano have that model number? |
| 23:42:35 | TheSeven | how much space does yours have? |
| 23:43:59 | bertrik | FlynDice, I don't quite understand the timeout logic in sd_wait_for_state |
| 23:44:50 | bertrik | I would expect it to exit after a specific timeout since the start of the call to sd_wait_for_state with some yields at regular intervals in between |
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| 23:45:21 | bertrik | but it seems to adjust the total timeout after each yield |
| 23:46:05 | FlynDice | I don't know about that that's funman's code and it seems to work... |
| 23:46:07 | bertrik | maybe this makes sense once one understands it, but I would definitely like some comment in the code on the intention of that piece of code |
| 23:46:50 | FlynDice | There are times whan you need to wait for a certain state before sending a command |
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| 23:47:03 | FlynDice | usually the TRAN state |
| 23:47:13 | bertrik | also there's an instance of comparing current_tick directly instead of using the TIME_AFTER / TIME_BEFORE macros |
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| 23:50:21 | * | bertrik wishes funman was here to explain |
| 23:50:52 | FlynDice | I'm off to pick up the kids from school, back later on, Thanks for taking a look! |
| 23:51:22 | * | TheSeven wishes he had a LED or some similarily fast means of output on the nano |
| 23:52:14 | FlynDice | my experience with funman is that most times I think he's made a mistake I end up learning something.... back later |
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| 23:53:20 | TheSeven | something is locking up while having interrupts disabled, which is really mean for debugging |
| 23:57:03 | | Quit pamaury ("exit(*(int *)0 / 0);") |
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