| 00:00:05 | amiconn | It's just that on some targets it's not very likely to trigger early usb, but it's possible |
| 00:00:11 | tomers | gevaerts: You're right |
| 00:00:29 | kugel | I mean, you know I'm not against abusing the system, but the ondio build is fast enough to do it locally :p |
| 00:00:49 | amiconn | The code is there on all hardware usb targets. Those having bootloader usb will catch usb connection present at poweron in bootloader usb, so it depends on timing |
| 00:01:10 | amiconn | Do what locally? |
| 00:01:25 | kugel | building ondio |
| 00:01:33 | kugel | regarding tomers yellows |
| 00:01:40 | amiconn | ah |
| 00:02:54 | JdGordon| | ayone plan on fixing the theme site so the items in the theme are listed (like remote wps, sbs, rsbs, etc?) |
| 00:04:58 | Stephen_ | also on the theme site spartan black i listed on the x5 it shouldnt be |
| 00:05:05 | Stephen_ | i = is |
| 00:06:02 | * | tomers Finally. Sorry all for not compiling locally. I was tired and wanted to go to sleep, and made a shortcut. Not a wise idea. Good night! |
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| 00:06:57 | duffrecords | so I put all the old music in a folder with a database.ignore file, and downloaded a fresh new MP3 (with good tags). now when I build the database it gets to 4884 files and stops (instead of 4882) |
| 00:07:47 | duffrecords | I'm assuming those two additional entries are the MP3 and the new folder it's in |
| 00:07:51 | kugel | arg, this is strange |
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| 00:08:22 | kugel | I'm cleaning up quickscreen a slight bit, but puts_scroll is behaving very weird! |
| 00:08:58 | kugel | it prints "Title: Value" (in 1 line due to lack of space), but as soon as it starts scrolling it becomes "ValueTitle: " |
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| 00:12:46 | kugel | what the heck is this! |
| 00:12:47 | gevaerts | Sharn: please stop that |
| 00:13:21 | Sharn | gevaerts: sorry, just registering a nick for my bot, not trying to nickspam anyone |
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| 00:20:49 | kugel | can someone help me with this? |
| 00:21:21 | kugel | this http://pastie.org/661264 doesn't scroll properly |
| 00:21:22 | duffrecords | any other suggestions to fix my database problem, or should I reformat this device and copy all my music onto it again? |
| 00:21:37 | kugel | in the if branch |
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| 00:22:05 | kugel | duffrecords: trying that seems reasonable. sometimes chkdisk can't repair everything properly |
| 00:23:27 | JdGordon| | kugel: i'll look on the way home... that seems to be a really wierd bug :p |
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| 00:29:46 | kugel | JdGordon|: thanks. this is the patch http://pastie.org/661271 here are example images: before scrolling starts: http://imagebin.org/68457 after scrolling starts: http://imagebin.org/68458 |
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| 00:30:09 | kugel | strangely enough it seems to work without the patch |
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| 00:32:00 | kugel | maybe I introduced that bug myself (although it seems very improbable :p ) |
| 00:33:40 | kugel | damn, it's in fact my bug |
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| 00:39:46 | Stephen_ | if i format my player for fat32 what allocation unit size do I use ? |
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| 00:49:43 | CIA-85 | New commit by kugel (r23282): Fix a scrolling bug with centered drawing and too long lines. |
| 00:49:49 | CIA-85 | New commit by kugel (r23283): Cleanup quickscreen text drawing by using text alignment flags for viewports. |
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| 01:01:15 | JdGordon| | kugel: haha you got it? |
| 01:01:21 | kugel | yea :/ |
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| 01:06:28 | duffrecords | so I'm probably going to reformat my iPod when I get home. ext3 isn't supported, is it? |
| 01:06:36 | kugel | it isn't |
| 01:07:48 | duffrecords | shoot. fat32 is troublesome, especially since I don't have any Windows machines at home (to run chkdsk or defrag) |
| 01:08:43 | kugel | linux at least? |
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| 01:10:07 | duffrecords | yeah, but I have yet to find a way to format a fat32 drive with Linux. every forum has the same unanimous answer: you don't! |
| 01:10:19 | duffrecords | but in some cases, like this, it would be helpful |
| 01:14:10 | kugel | mkfs.vfat or something like that works |
| 01:14:47 | kugel | yea, mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdX is what I always used |
| 01:16:13 | kugel | fsck.vfat can look out for FS problems, but I don't think there's a nice defragger |
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| 01:32:15 | kugel | lol, wth my e200 says "no partition found"! |
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| 01:40:05 | JdGordon| | congrats |
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| 01:55:13 | kkurbjun | kugel, you rang? |
| 01:58:39 | kugel | kkurbjun: yea, I was wondering about lcd_bitmap_transparent_part() in the f/x lcd driver |
| 01:58:59 | kugel | it has some asm, is it faster than the standard function? |
| 01:59:19 | kugel | it doesn't look very soc specific to me, can't it be used for other targets as well? |
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| 02:01:46 | kkurbjun | I don't think that I wrote that but it looks like it could be used on other targets |
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| 02:03:26 | kkurbjun | I don't know how much faster it is.. |
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| 02:09:18 | CIA-85 | New commit by kugel (r23284): Use strlcpy instead of a memset&strcpy combo. Guarantees \0-terminaltion and gives a 1-3% speed up. |
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| 02:11:12 | JdGordon| | kugel: how does the %Vi viewport work? |
| 02:11:37 | JdGordon| | could you specify it more than once? |
| 02:11:55 | kugel | well, I think it's possible, but the first one is used |
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| 02:12:41 | JdGordon| | im thinking about how to do the current boring statusbar in one .sbs but with the current top/bottom setting |
| 02:13:10 | JdGordon| | instead of just snprintfing the y pixel when its loaded (thinking about the rec screen) |
| 02:14:01 | kugel | the %Vi is used for the lists |
| 02:14:05 | kugel | as custom ui viewport |
| 02:14:13 | JdGordon| | if the current bar can be coimpletly done using the skins then I'd ike to see all the old code removed |
| 02:14:31 | JdGordon| | ? |
| 02:14:34 | JdGordon| | grr |
| 02:14:39 | JdGordon| | so it has to be known at parse time? |
| 02:14:41 | kugel | an emulated classic statusbar might not need it if STATUSBAR_HEIGHT stays the same |
| 02:15:09 | JdGordon| | top/bottom is te problem... not the height |
| 02:15:38 | JdGordon| | maybe we just get rid of that option? it was only added one release ago anyway :) |
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| 02:16:28 | kugel | well, welcome to the number of problems making getting rid of the old code difficult |
| 02:16:33 | kugel | I already got known to them :p |
| 02:16:51 | kugel | kkurbjun: some gwhite committed it, but didn't say how much faster |
| 02:17:01 | JdGordon| | removing code shold be simple :) |
| 02:17:12 | JdGordon| | its not annoing too many people while doing it which is the problem |
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| 02:20:33 | kugel | JdGordon|: remember to keep the icons in the binary |
| 02:20:50 | JdGordon| | screw that.... |
| 02:20:54 | kugel | or you need to explain amiconn why you want to break early usb |
| 02:21:17 | JdGordon| | the nbuilt one will be text... I'll also add one with images in the zip for those crazies :) |
| 02:21:27 | kugel | kkurbjun: seems to work as-is on my fuze |
| 02:21:58 | JdGordon| | usb screen should be skinified also :) i want a pretty "connected" animation.. and batt status |
| 02:22:00 | JdGordon| | and a clock! |
| 02:22:51 | kugel | the usb screen can show the statusbar |
| 02:23:07 | kugel | we would only need to add the usb screen to the %cs values |
| 02:23:26 | kkurbjun | USB screen without the builtin graphic would be nice - it would be great if all the builtin images for the main build could be eliminated |
| 02:23:28 | kugel | and even that only for the animation |
| 02:23:50 | kugel | kkurbjun: any idea how to test the speed? |
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| 02:25:03 | kkurbjun | kugel, I'm working on that now if I could get the gigabeat to connect to my system - test_fps gives 266.0 w/o the asm for fullscreen and 1/4 is 961 fps. I havn't tried with asm yet. I'm not sure which function test_fps calls though |
| 02:25:27 | kugel | I don't think test_fps helps |
| 02:27:07 | kugel | test_fps tests lcd_update() and lcd_update_rect() |
| 02:27:08 | kkurbjun | so I got 1059.9 for test_fps on 1/4 updates |
| 02:27:19 | kkurbjun | with the asm |
| 02:27:54 | kugel | that is interesting |
| 02:28:19 | JdGordon| | kugel: would be nice to be able to disable the %vi viewport for the usb screen... |
| 02:28:21 | kugel | I'm wondering how fps can show that |
| 02:28:48 | kugel | why? |
| 02:29:38 | kkurbjun | kugel, I agree, I don't think that fest_fps is showing that it may just be vairance in the test- I only ran each build once |
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| 02:30:21 | kugel | it doesn't seem to be faster on the fuze (testing with test_gfx.rock) |
| 02:32:32 | kkurbjun | test_gfx doesn't look like it would test it either |
| 02:32:53 | kugel | it does putsxy, which does font drawing, which does transparent bitmap drawing |
| 02:33:09 | kkurbjun | the asm in the gigabeat driver is for native bitmaps |
| 02:33:13 | kkurbjun | not the mono bitmaps |
| 02:33:43 | kugel | ah yea |
| 02:33:48 | kugel | right, :/ |
| 02:34:41 | kugel | hm, we could try drawing the rockbox logo 100 times |
| 02:35:57 | kkurbjun | yeah, but it doesn't have any transparencies, it would be good to test with an image the has a transparent section with the backdrop on and with the backdrop as a solid color |
| 02:38:28 | kugel | or I just hack transparent drawing in :p |
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| 02:39:31 | kkurbjun | yeah, you could just call it as a transparent image, but it wouldn't test the speedup if any when there is a transparent section |
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| 02:45:41 | kugel | kkurbjun: 65->71 fps calling show_logo() repeatedly |
| 02:45:58 | kkurbjun | that's reasonable |
| 02:46:04 | kkurbjun | I mean worth implementing |
| 02:46:17 | kugel | that function looks actually applicable to any arm soc |
| 02:46:26 | kugel | i literally copied it |
| 02:47:03 | kkurbjun | yeah, any 16 bit horizontally oriented frame buffer |
| 02:47:47 | kugel | gonna try it on my e200 |
| 02:48:53 | kkurbjun | kugel, did you add that test code to test_gfx? |
| 02:49:06 | kugel | yea |
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| 02:49:17 | kkurbjun | if it's committable it would be good to have as an additional test |
| 02:53:16 | kugel | 51 -> 53 on the e200 |
| 02:54:05 | kkurbjun | how large is the fuze's lcd? |
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| 02:55:13 | kugel | 220x176 |
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| 03:02:11 | kugel | kkurbjun: could RGB565 vs RGB565SWAPPED a problem? |
| 03:02:32 | JdGordon | is your red and blue switched? |
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| 03:03:09 | kugel | no, but both my test targets are rgb565 |
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| 03:03:16 | kkurbjun | I don't think so, that function is just doing 16 bit copies I don't think there is a special function for swapped implementations |
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| 03:03:39 | kkurbjun | lcd-16bit.c is where it is implemented |
| 03:04:18 | kugel | yea, but the transparent color is different |
| 03:05:22 | kugel | ah, the macro is fixed for swapped |
| 03:05:26 | kkurbjun | the asm version checks the transparent color too, it is not hardcoded beyond the define we use |
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| 03:09:34 | kugel | should be more or less safe to enable it for all arm then? |
| 03:09:46 | kugel | all 16bit-horiz-arms I mean |
| 03:13:33 | kkurbjun | yeah, I think if you included it in lcd-16bit.c as a define it should be ok from what I can see of the implemenation |
| 03:13:50 | kkurbjun | the vertical implementation is pulled out in a seperate driver |
| 03:14:07 | kkurbjun | lcd-16bit-vert.c |
| 03:15:11 | kugel | as a define? |
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| 03:19:24 | kkurbjun | I mean it would be good to keep the full c implemenation - so it would have to be something like #if defined(CPU_ARM) |
| 03:21:47 | kkurbjun | I guess that's required actually since it needs to run on other archs :-D |
| 03:23:32 | midgey | linuxstb: (for the logs) i've posted a new patch that solves the speed issues. it's now the same speed as svn |
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| 03:27:06 | kugel | kkurbjun: yea, other arcs need the C version still :p |
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| 03:30:05 | swiftkick | anyone else here using a sansa e200 v2 series? |
| 03:31:07 | saratoga | just ask a question |
| 03:31:14 | saratoga | well a useful question not a rhetorical one |
| 03:32:44 | swiftkick | ok to flash firmware on a e200 v2 i needed to switch the device to MSC mode. does rockbox require the player to stay in MSC mode? i ask because, upon upgrading the firmware from 3.01.11 to 3.01.16 and/or changing from MTP to MSC, all my files appear to be gone on both the device and the memory card that was installed in it |
| 03:33:12 | swiftkick | however, as a plus, rockbox is now installed and looks quite functional, no biggie if i hafta copy it all back over |
| 03:33:27 | saratoga | i think rockbox will work with MTP, but it'll be hard to figure out where your files end up, so you'll probably have to use the database |
| 03:33:45 | saratoga | most people prefer MSC because it lets them choose where the files end up |
| 03:34:28 | swiftkick | but MTP mode just looks nicer in windows ya know? MSC forces there to be two drive letters, whereas MTP shows a "device" icon with two subfolders... i mean either way i know where im putting my files re: device mem or card mem |
| 03:34:57 | saratoga | yes but MTP is considerably less function in rockbox for that reason |
| 03:35:00 | swiftkick | i dont really care, i can always adjust. i bought this device specifically to run rockbox after seeing it on a friends player (not a sandisk) |
| 03:35:51 | swiftkick | cool, well, it is a bit discouraging that all my files appear to be gone from switching the device from MTP to MSC (or maybe it was upgrading the sansa official firmware to get the USB settings menu, who knows) |
| 03:36:23 | swiftkick | nice that it autodetects which firmware to load upon insertion of the USB cable too |
| 03:38:06 | swiftkick | ok the devices memory is clean but the sd card looks intact... i was gonna say, it makes little sense that either upgrading the firmware or changing from MTP to MSC could erase the filesystem on the main device, so it makes even less sense that doing so would also erase the sd card's |
| 03:38:52 | swiftkick | actually the filesystem is showing 13 MB free but theres no files in MUSIC... hmmm |
| 03:38:54 | kugel | it isn't really under our control what the of does when updating |
| 03:39:43 | swiftkick | well i hope rockbox has a "format" utility =) otherwise i have no music and no space to add any =( |
| 03:40:02 | kugel | the OF has one, and every desktop pc |
| 03:40:17 | swiftkick | but, will formatting the main device memory erase rockbox too? |
| 03:41:00 | kugel | yes |
| 03:41:00 | kugel | but you can reinstall it easily |
| 03:41:21 | swiftkick | indeed |
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| 03:42:25 | swiftkick | interesting |
| 03:42:29 | swiftkick | rockbox shows a folder called ##MUSIC |
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| 03:42:48 | swiftkick | that has a copy of the whole root hierarchiy inside it (AUDIBLE MUSIC PHOTO RECORD VIDEO) |
| 03:42:51 | swiftkick | and my music is in ther |
| 03:43:16 | swiftkick | however, i can only see this folder using rockbox. i cant see it on the windows side |
| 03:46:56 | swiftkick | hmmm interesting |
| 03:47:01 | kugel | that's where your mtp files end up |
| 03:47:15 | swiftkick | yah but it sucks that windows cant see them |
| 03:48:05 | swiftkick | if only rockbox (or sansa) had a rename/move utility in the firmware, but, no biggie, rockbox seems to work fine with the player in MTP mode |
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| 07:24:45 | pixelma | I don't know if the way MTP works with the OF changed but on the c200 (v1) the files are vuried deep down in some subsubsubfolder of the system folder rebamed to aebitrary numbered .dat files along with some non-music .dat files hich means you can find them but won't recognise them through the file browser and only play after a renaming of the extension and the database won't find them |
| 07:25:40 | pixelma | buried too |
| 07:25:58 | pixelma | and renamed |
| 07:26:19 | * | pixelma gives up |
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| 08:14:28 | TheSeven | /* FIXME: The extra 0x800 is consumed by fat_mount() when the fsinfo needs updating */ |
| 08:14:56 | TheSeven | could that explain why that sector size increase adds that much to the required stack size? |
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| 08:34:16 | TheSeven | linuxstb: does ROLO work for you? |
| 08:34:34 | TheSeven | it seems to be broken in current SVN |
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| 08:37:09 | CIA-85 | New commit by theseven (r23285): iPod Nano 2G USB support based on the S3C6400X datasheet. Disabled by default for now. |
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| 08:44:41 | TheSeven | huh? why does "iPod Nano 2G" appear *twice* in FlySpray's "Player Type" field? |
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| 08:47:27 | Zagor | TheSeven: umm, that's a ... feature! |
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| 08:47:48 | Zagor | fixed |
| 08:48:26 | Dgby714 | hehe |
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| 08:49:27 | amiconn | Zagor: Speaking about strange things - what is the reason for the occasional empty delta table cell, even though the corresponding build was green? |
| 08:49:57 | Dgby714 | amiconn: you just missed him |
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| 08:56:43 | amiconn | [08:49:29] <amiconn> Zagor: Speaking about strange things - what is the reason for the occasional empty delta table cell, even though the corresponding build was green? |
| 08:57:56 | Zagor | amiconn: the previous time I checked, the empty build build had wrong target in rockbox-info.txt |
| 08:58:07 | Zagor | don't ask me how that happens... |
| 08:59:08 | amiconn | TheSeven: Red! |
| 08:59:42 | TheSeven | amiconn: oops... |
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| 09:02:00 | * | TheSeven wonders what the hell is wrong with that bootloader config to trigger a missing symbol in the USB core |
| 09:02:14 | * | amiconn pokes Zagor a bit regarding an uncollapse button/link for the build table |
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| 09:21:10 | CIA-85 | New commit by theseven (r23286): Fix red |
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| 09:39:53 | topik | i'd like to test nano2g's usb but am unable to compile my own :( |
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| 09:45:20 | topik | and the old vinyl sound, if that's still a feature |
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| 09:52:08 | CIA-85 | New commit by zagor (r23287): Create full table too |
| 09:52:22 | Zagor | amiconn: now there's a toggle link below the table |
| 09:59:50 | TheSeven | topik: need a test bin? |
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| 10:01:46 | TheSeven | http://l4n.clustur.com/data/theseven/releases/rockbox.ipod |
| 10:03:54 | topik | grabbed |
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| 10:06:48 | topik | pretty usb image, followed by reboot into diskmode |
| 10:07:25 | topik | using your rockbox.ipod over my slightly aged r23156 install |
| 10:07:32 | topik | should i try with the very latest build? |
| 10:08:26 | TheSeven | hm, this build isn't supposed to go into disk mode |
| 10:08:31 | TheSeven | let me check... |
| 10:09:34 | topik | the initial usb plug image was new to me |
| 10:10:22 | TheSeven | ok, fixed. |
| 10:10:29 | TheSeven | i must have uploaded the wrong file |
| 10:12:00 | topik | now i get a new device in windows and my ipod shows |
| 10:13:12 | topik | is there anything i can test specifically? |
| 10:13:24 | topik | or just play around and see if it breaks? |
| 10:13:53 | TheSeven | i don't yet know of any bugs in there, so just poke around :-) |
| 10:14:50 | topik | copying in disk mode wasn't fast, but i think in rockbox it's about half the speed |
| 10:14:56 | topik | btw, very impressive work sir |
| 10:15:26 | TheSeven | yes, i know it's slow, but that's the nand driver's and maybe ftl's fault, but not an USB issue |
| 10:15:49 | TheSeven | apple writes to multiple flash banks in parallel, while we're doing it sequentially for now |
| 10:15:54 | markun | TheSeven: you rock :) |
| 10:16:13 | topik | seems copying has stalled |
| 10:17:38 | topik | yep, it broke |
| 10:17:42 | TheSeven | what did you test? large files? hundreds of smallish ones? |
| 10:17:53 | topik | one flac |
| 10:18:01 | * | TheSeven wonders whether it's the FTL or the USB that broke |
| 10:18:06 | topik | 35MB |
| 10:18:14 | topik | rockbox is still updating the clock |
| 10:18:24 | topik | but in windows the device shows 0 size |
| 10:18:45 | TheSeven | what happens if you unplug it? |
| 10:19:08 | topik | usb icon goes away and rockbox returns to the menu |
| 10:19:24 | TheSeven | try to open a different file from the flash now |
| 10:19:25 | topik | ata error 1 |
| 10:19:34 | TheSeven | ok, so it was the FTL |
| 10:19:36 | topik | when i tried to go to a different menu |
| 10:20:05 | topik | lots of gpio numbers |
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| 10:20:41 | topik | after reboot the previously fully charged nano whines about lack of juice |
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| 10:21:31 | TheSeven | ouch |
| 10:21:43 | topik | filesystem seems broken |
| 10:21:47 | topik | windows wants to format it |
| 10:21:55 | TheSeven | so it entered disk mode? |
| 10:22:07 | topik | when i reconnected the usb cable yes |
| 10:23:23 | topik | when i disconnect the usb cable now i get the 'use itunes to restore' message |
| 10:23:29 | TheSeven | yes, i expected that |
| 10:23:36 | TheSeven | it did a hard reset |
| 10:23:49 | topik | i don't want to install that filth :( |
| 10:24:06 | TheSeven | do you use the apple os at all? |
| 10:24:12 | topik | nope |
| 10:24:36 | topik | you're saying i could format the thing and put fresh rockbox on it? |
| 10:24:44 | TheSeven | did you use iloader or the rockbox bootloader? |
| 10:24:53 | topik | rockbox bootloader |
| 10:25:14 | * | TheSeven needs to prepare an image for that one |
| 10:25:22 | TheSeven | which flash size? |
| 10:25:45 | topik | 2GB |
| 10:26:01 | topik | if i understand you correctly |
| 10:26:06 | topik | otherwise, huh? |
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| 10:28:13 | tomers | TheSeven: Great work! Will USB on nano2g support interrupt transfers? |
| 10:28:47 | topik | it supported interrupted transfers atm :) |
| 10:28:59 | TheSeven | tomers: in theory, it does. i haven't tested them yet. |
| 10:29:49 | topik | TheSeven: should i use itunes to restore or can i just format and use ipodpatcher again? |
| 10:30:14 | TheSeven | you can't just use ipodpatcher, but i can make an image you can just dd to it to fix it |
| 10:30:53 | topik | i'll have to go home and hook it up to linux then |
| 10:31:36 | topik | though i feel lucky, and could try dd for windows |
| 10:31:56 | TheSeven | (or hxd or whatever you like) |
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| 10:32:40 | topik | i'll be happy to try what is easiest for you |
| 10:32:50 | topik | not installing itunes is worth a fair bit to me |
| 10:33:10 | tomers | TheSeven, topik: This mean USB HID works now? |
| 10:33:32 | TheSeven | topik: if you can wait for some minutes, i can make you an image |
| 10:33:41 | topik | of course |
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| 10:33:54 | topik | tomers: it did for a while it seems |
| 10:33:55 | TheSeven | tomers: In theory, it *could* work, but I haven't tested it yet |
| 10:34:21 | TheSeven | topik: he's talking about HID, not UMS |
| 10:34:37 | amiconn | Zagor: Thanks, it's working nicely :) |
| 10:34:50 | topik | hid being using it as a pseudo mouse remote-control thingie, right? |
| 10:35:32 | tomers | TheSeven: Whenever you'll find time to implement it, don't forget to set USB_HAS_INTERRUPT in firmware/export/config.h |
| 10:36:02 | tomers | topik: Right. It enable sending HID events to the host OS, such as Volume Up/Down... |
| 10:37:19 | tomers | TheSeven: config.h line 838... |
| 10:37:58 | topik | i saw those HID things on my fuze. confuzed me nicely when i didn't know that was supported |
| 10:41:17 | tomers | topik: How did you enable HID on fuze (I got one and USB is disabled)? Is it stable enough for HID? |
| 10:42:29 | topik | usb transfers don't work on the fuze, but hid does afaik |
| 10:42:45 | topik | i didn't do anything. lack to skill to get rb from svn so i don't compile my own |
| 10:43:17 | gevaerts | you got HID to work without anyone writing a USB driver? Impressive! |
| 10:43:35 | topik | i'm seeing things? |
| 10:44:14 | tomers | gevaerts: I got to think that there's some sort of basic driver support which has interrupts already :-) |
| 10:44:28 | tomers | topik: Are you sure it is Sansa Fuze? |
| 10:44:46 | tomers | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sansa_Fuze |
| 10:44:50 | topik | i'm sure my player is, but now i'm less than sure it does HID |
| 10:45:40 | tomers | Does it has some sort of title below the USB connected logo? (Multimedia / Browser / Presentation / Mouse)? Does something happens in the PC while you press it as it is connected? I guess not |
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| 10:45:52 | tomers | I guess it reboots into OF when connected to USB |
| 10:46:21 | topik | it reboots to OF now. i am very sure though that it didn't do that before when i hold the 'left' button down |
| 10:46:39 | hue | sweet! i guess i did register on freenode |
| 10:46:43 | hue | hey guys :D |
| 10:46:56 | tomers | hue: Helllo :-) |
| 10:47:02 | * | topik goes changelog digging |
| 10:47:18 | hue | guess what im excited about. 2nd gen nanooooooo |
| 10:47:44 | topik | i am very sure there was a way to keep the fuze in rockbox when plugging in usb |
| 10:49:15 | topik | perhaps r23184/r23185 are screwing with my memory |
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| 10:49:48 | tomers | topik: While in RB, pressing SELECT whjile connecting USB keeps you in RB, in charging mode. USB HID is not operational in that mode |
| 10:50:18 | TheSeven | topik: can you try unpacking and dd'ing (or whatever) http://l4n.clustur.com/data/theseven/releases/rockboximage-2gb.7z to your ipod? |
| 10:51:10 | topik | TheSeven: yes, tomers: when i do that, i get an unrecognized usb device in windows |
| 10:53:09 | tomers | TheSeven: This is a sort of dummy device. The DAP haas to somehow introduce itself to the OS, but there's no function which it can give (MAss-Storage / HID) |
| 10:53:43 | tomers | gevaerts: I don't get this device. I forgot whether it should appear at all |
| 10:53:51 | TheSeven | tomers: what about gevaerts' dummy sound card patch? :-D |
| 10:54:16 | gevaerts | tomers: on the fuze, it will just give an error. There's not enough yet to enumerate at all |
| 10:55:55 | TheSeven | uh oh, UMS support is revealing a lot of FTL/NAND trouble |
| 10:56:10 | topik | TheSeven: i got myself a bootmenu image |
| 10:58:50 | TheSeven | topik: oops, still something wrong with my tool |
| 10:59:14 | topik | at least it's back from the dead |
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| 11:09:44 | topik | thanks for the disk image, TheSeven |
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| 11:11:29 | TheSeven | topik: go to disk mode and re-dd it, i uploaded a new (fixed) file |
| 11:11:35 | TheSeven | this time it's really the rockbox boot loader |
| 11:14:28 | topik | this time hxd says access denied |
| 11:16:20 | Dgby714 | topik: did you uncheck the read-only checkbox? |
| 11:16:53 | topik | hehe, yeah. i think because there is a filesystem now, windows accesses it |
| 11:17:16 | TheSeven | that shouldn't stop hxd from accessing it |
| 11:17:32 | Dgby714 | HxD has done that to me too i have to reboot my system to get it working again |
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| 11:18:15 | topik | btw, nano 1g themes are not linked to nano 2g themes (websites) and all nano 1g themes say 'doesn't work with current build' |
| 11:18:41 | topik | what needs to be done to a theme to get rid of that cheerfull red message ? |
| 11:19:31 | TheSeven | fix the nano2g checkwps? or was that already done? |
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| 11:21:17 | gevaerts | topik: someone seems to have broken checkwps |
| 11:22:03 | TheSeven | what exactly needs to be done to get USB hid working? |
| 11:22:35 | Dgby714 | same thing happend to my nano2g |
| 11:22:37 | TheSeven | (besides #define USB_ENABLE_HID) |
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| 11:22:43 | TheSeven | Dgby714: which thing? |
| 11:23:21 | Dgby714 | I copyed files over safly ejected and removed the usb then i got a panic and now says to restore with itunes |
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| 11:23:45 | TheSeven | which kind of panic? "scheduling bank x block yz for remap"? |
| 11:24:15 | TheSeven | mine keeps doing that, too, but didn't have any data corruption yet |
| 11:24:56 | Dgby714 | no um Stkov dircache |
| 11:25:00 | topik | hxd hates me |
| 11:25:09 | topik | even after reboot it doesn't work anymore |
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| 11:30:25 | tomers | TheSeven: In order to implement HID in nano2g, you have to support allocating Interrupt endpoint type in your driver's usb_drv_request_endpoint(), then add test for the nano's CONFIG_USBXXX in firmware/export/config.h, and set USB_HAS_INTERRUPT for it. That supposed to be quite simple. I enabled INTERRUPT endpoint for the USBOTG_ARC in no-time (changing API to supoprt ep type took longer, of course) |
| 11:31:18 | topik | can i force that hard reset thing that results in the 'restore with itunes' message? |
| 11:31:19 | TheSeven | the api should already be in place, at least in theory, on the nano |
| 11:31:25 | tomers | s/CONFIG_USBXXX/USBOTG_M5636/ of course |
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| 11:32:37 | tomers | TheSeven: How is USB_HAS_BULK defined for the nano2g? |
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| 11:42:02 | TheSeven | tomers: is it even defined? :-P |
| 11:44:17 | gevaerts | TheSeven: yes, or you wouldn't get FTL panics :) |
| 11:44:28 | TheSeven | no, it isn't |
| 11:45:00 | TheSeven | nobody seems to ever check for that |
| 11:45:29 | gevaerts | hm, that's actually a bug then |
| 11:47:17 | TheSeven | HAVE_USBSTACK => USB_ENABLE_STORAGE directly |
| 11:51:17 | TheSeven | HID works fine after fixing some defines :-D |
| 11:52:13 | gevaerts | nice :) |
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| 11:54:10 | CIA-85 | New commit by theseven (r23288): Fix some iPod Nano 2G config defines to make USB HID work. |
| 11:54:44 | tomers | TheSeven: Great! |
| 11:55:01 | * | TheSeven wonders why this does only work with windows media player, not with winamp. |
| 11:55:20 | TheSeven | my laptop's HW buttons work fine with both |
| 11:55:46 | TheSeven | now let's tackle these FTL issues once again |
| 11:55:53 | tomers | TheSeven: I think there is a difference between multimedia HID codes, and keyboard scan codes. They are not 1:1 |
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| 11:56:47 | tomers | TheSeven: Can you please compile the manual and see whether USB Keypad mode is there? (General Settings −−> System Settings −−> USB Keypad mode). I'm not at home, so I can't do this myself |
| 11:57:04 | * | TheSeven needs to install LaTeX |
| 11:57:17 | tomers | TheSeven: Nevermind, I'll do that tonight |
| 11:57:29 | tomers | UTC+2 tonight :-) |
| 11:57:59 | * | TheSeven will need to install that anyways, sooner or later |
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| 11:58:32 | TheSeven | 65MB download, 141MB disk space... Huh, wasn't that bigger the last time i installed it? |
| 11:59:59 | tomers | TheSeven: Why does you test for defined(IPOD_NANO2G) in config.h, and not (CONFIG_USBOTG == USBOTG_S3C6400X) ? |
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| 12:00:14 | topik | TheSeven: do you know if it is possible to kill my nano and get back that 'restore with itunes' message? |
| 12:00:34 | topik | hmm, perhaps i can use your usb-enabled rockbox.ipod to break it |
| 12:00:46 | Dgby714 | lol |
| 12:01:01 | tomers | Also, why not add (CONFIG_USBOTG == USBOTG_S3C6400X) to the test at line 21053 ? |
| 12:02:05 | TheSeven | there may be more devices using that USB controller in the future, that could not want to use bootloader USB for some reason |
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| 12:03:39 | topik | excellent. foolproof method to break my nano |
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| 12:05:37 | TheSeven | any idea where this is coming from? |
| 12:05:38 | TheSeven | ! LaTeX Error: File `scrreprt.cls' not found. |
| 12:06:10 | TheSeven | and multirow.sty and float.sty |
| 12:07:19 | tomers | TheSeven: I'm not sure, but I think I remeber I had some latex package missing. Maybe you did not install all required packages? See the wiki |
| 12:08:53 | tomers | # apt-get install tetex-base tetex-bin tetex-extra latex-ucs tex4ht |
| 12:10:16 | TheSeven | aha. another 278 MB of downloads and 579MB of disk space |
| 12:10:26 | TheSeven | I knew something couldn't be right with that size :-D |
| 12:17:32 | * | TheSeven wonders why the peak meter is described in the manual, but not included in the default theme |
| 12:23:55 | * | TheSeven is amazed by the fact that he can now use serial logf! |
| 12:24:22 | tmzt | are all arm targets mmuless except samsung s3c/s5c? |
| 12:24:34 | tmzt | do they require PPPR? |
| 12:24:45 | TheSeven | ...whatever PPPR is |
| 12:25:05 | tmzt | periphrial remap register |
| 12:25:15 | tmzt | in the cp15 |
| 12:25:20 | TheSeven | "Plant Protection Products Regulation", according to google :-) |
| 12:25:44 | tmzt | periphrial port remap register |
| 12:25:51 | TheSeven | I haven't heard of such a thing yet, so I assume the 940T doesn't have it |
| 12:25:58 | tmzt | PPRR sorry |
| 12:26:04 | tmzt | and mmu? |
| 12:26:17 | tmzt | does rockbox use it? |
| 12:26:31 | TheSeven | only some minimalistic one that can remap different memory regions to offset zero |
| 12:26:52 | tmzt | banked? |
| 12:29:01 | TheSeven | tomers: yes it does mention USB Keypad Mode |
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| 12:46:44 | TheSeven | gevaerts: how does the usb-serial work? |
| 12:47:02 | TheSeven | does this emulate an FTDI or similar, or is it just a bulk pipe to read with a client app? |
| 12:47:26 | TheSeven | looks like the latter... |
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| 12:49:37 | gevaerts | TheSeven: see http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/PortalPlayerUsb for usage info |
| 12:51:21 | TheSeven | bah. "The usb serial implementation doesn't seem complete enough to be usable from Windows." |
| 12:51:28 | TheSeven | This seriously needs to change :-) |
| 12:52:07 | tmzt | pl2303 driver? |
| 12:52:11 | tmzt | modified inf |
| 12:53:56 | TheSeven | writing "Prolific" on that wiki page instead of "Freescale iMX whatever" would make sense then |
| 12:54:33 | gevaerts | TheSeven: no. That's about the USB controller, not the software bits :) |
| 12:54:51 | gevaerts | the usb serial stuff should probably be moved to its own page |
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| 13:00:12 | * | TheSeven wonders where the inf of the pl2303 is hidden |
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| 13:01:24 | tomers | TheSeven, gevaerts: How do you use serial usb in Windows? |
| 13:01:34 | gevaerts | tomers: I don't... |
| 13:01:48 | TheSeven | tomers: I'm going to have a shot at it |
| 13:02:09 | tomers | TheSeven: Then in what OS did it worked? |
| 13:04:25 | TheSeven | gevaerts: can we change the vid/pid of only one part of the compound device? |
| 13:05:24 | TheSeven | aha. oem13.inf |
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| 13:06:25 | tomers | TheSeven: If you masnage to use serial in Windows, please post instructions, so others can use it. |
| 13:08:21 | TheSeven | tmzt: just patching the inf fails |
| 13:08:24 | TheSeven | let's find out why... |
| 13:08:32 | Bob_C | oemxxxx.inf is specific to an installation |
| 13:09:38 | gevaerts | TheSeven: only if you redesign USB :) |
| 13:09:42 | Bob_C | What device is your oem13.inf for? |
| 13:09:56 | TheSeven | pl2303 of course |
| 13:10:17 | Bob_C | This is the driver for the OF? |
| 13:10:19 | TheSeven | but my ipod locks up when trying to install that driver :-D |
| 13:11:57 | Bob_C | Anyway, you need to create a inf for the vid/pid and install via the "New hardware wizard" |
| 13:12:17 | tmzt | I might suggest a modem driver package like the motorola one |
| 13:12:28 | Bob_C | If the vid/pid already has a driver installed, you need to wipe it first |
| 13:12:34 | tmzt | or maybe adding acm support to rockbox |
| 13:13:06 | tmzt | Bob_C: thanks, I'll let informed people answer, sorry |
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| 13:22:46 | TheSeven | bah, it does lock up even without any driver! |
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| 13:25:36 | TheSeven | hm, it unlocks again after finishing the driver installation. weird. |
| 13:26:04 | TheSeven | and for some reason the HID is broken if i enable usb-serial |
| 13:27:08 | gevaerts | how many endpoints can the controller handle? |
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| 13:38:05 | TheSeven | gevaerts: 5, including EP0 |
| 13:38:37 | TheSeven | but you can't even switch between the modes, so i doubt that this is an endpoint problem |
| 13:38:45 | TheSeven | hm, libusb fails to see my ipod for some reason |
| 13:39:09 | gevaerts | so EP0 plus two in each direction? |
| 13:39:16 | TheSeven | yep |
| 13:39:47 | gevaerts | ok, that won't fit MSC+HID+serial then |
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| 13:45:40 | * | TheSeven still wonders why libusb doesn't like that device |
| 13:46:19 | topik | what comes after 'updating size on empty dir e' panic? |
| 13:53:31 | TheSeven | this also smells like FTL trouble |
| 13:54:16 | TheSeven | there seems to be some bug when it |
| 13:54:24 | TheSeven | it's running out of scattered page blocks |
| 13:56:28 | topik | TheSeven: you discussed nano model number a while back (when rhcp1253 asked about #A1199). is that the model number you get in the debug mode menu? if so, mine is a #MA477. |
| 13:57:07 | TheSeven | that model number doesn't have anything to do with this FTL bug |
| 13:57:14 | topik | i know |
| 13:57:34 | topik | just refering to "TheSevenrhcp1253: doesn't every 2g nano have that model number?" |
| 13:57:35 | TheSeven | A1199 (on the back of the ipod) just seems to mean "iPod Nano 2G" |
| 13:57:43 | topik | o |
| 13:58:06 | topik | i'm still trying to get your second disk image on my nano :) |
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| 14:00:26 | * | TheSeven needs to reset his FTL once again. the current trouble seems to have been caused by some fail long ago |
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| 16:07:46 | * | TheSeven just squashed a nasty FTL bug |
| 16:08:19 | TheSeven | ...but it looks like there are more of them. |
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| 16:09:42 | * | mc2739 hands TheSeven a flyswatter |
| 16:10:38 | TheSeven | hm, my ipod always locks up entirely if i try to copy doom.rock. every other file seems to work... |
| 16:11:00 | Bagder | doom is evil, we knew that! ;-P |
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| 16:17:32 | TheSeven | hm, unpacking a rockbox-full.zip fails because of doom, but copying a 137MB MP3 album works just fine... |
| 16:17:59 | Bagder | file size related? |
| 16:18:11 | Bagder | seems weird though |
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| 16:18:44 | Zagor | try copying many small files |
| 16:19:03 | Bagder | or try cutting off little pieces of the doom file to see if that makes any diff |
| 16:19:46 | TheSeven | hmm doom alone works |
| 16:19:46 | TheSeven | looks like something is going mad when extending a directory or something |
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| 16:20:07 | ixi | hi |
| 16:20:08 | TheSeven | or when committing a heavily-scattered directory page. but why doesn't it fail for the FAT then? |
| 16:20:34 | ixi | so, I managed to get the h120 working again, except I can't seem to be able to install rockbox now.. |
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| 16:20:49 | TheSeven | ixi: how did you repair it? |
| 16:20:55 | ixi | hard reset worked |
| 16:21:02 | ixi | i didnt think of that before. :) |
| 16:21:15 | ixi | but yeah, now I cant install the rockbox.. :/ |
| 16:21:27 | ixi | i dont know if its HDD's fault, or what's up |
| 16:21:35 | TheSeven | how does it fail? |
| 16:21:59 | TheSeven | bah. it's locking up entirely, and on the next boot norboot wipes the whole flash, to remove any evidence :-/ |
| 16:22:12 | ixi | well, i can turn it on, but rockbox won't load - it just displays bootloader and voltage (which is the state i recieved it in) |
| 16:22:25 | ixi | i can boot to iriver firmware, but i can't seem to update it |
| 16:22:38 | ixi | whenever i select firmware update -> yes, nothing happens |
| 16:22:50 | evilnick | And you have the correct file on the iRiver? |
| 16:23:05 | ixi | what do you mean? |
| 16:23:34 | ixi | you mean, the firmware copy in the iriver? |
| 16:24:01 | evilnick | Yes |
| 16:24:21 | ixi | well, now that i think of it, the one i uploaded into iriver was EU, and it has probablay US one.. |
| 16:24:30 | ixi | (yeah, I know, i'm retarded..) |
| 16:25:05 | evilnick | Best to check these things out, there's nothing to be ashamed of! |
| 16:25:22 | ixi | well, it just totally slipped my mind.. :) |
| 16:25:40 | TheSeven | well, this happens even to people like me :-P |
| 16:25:53 | ixi | ok, another dumb question, but better safe than bricked.. what do I do now? complete installation on rockbox util again, this time selecting proper firmware? |
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| 16:26:54 | ixi | or, should i delete the EU .hex file from the player first? |
| 16:27:05 | evilnick | Yes, because you switched the firmware image, then you'll need to install RB again onto the new one. |
| 16:27:24 | ixi | the yes was on installation, or deleting?:) |
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| 16:27:33 | evilnick | Both |
| 16:27:41 | ixi | ok, thanks |
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| 16:31:45 | ixi | meh, same problem, it wont turn on |
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| 16:33:28 | evilnick | ixi: Try what it was last time that fixed this. Didn't you reset it? |
| 16:33:57 | ixi | yeah, should i reset it again, and then perform the firmware update? |
| 16:34:21 | ixi | i'm starting to suspect the HDD may be damaged somewhat.. |
| 16:35:43 | evilnick | Basically, to complete the Rockbox installation, then you need to flash the iRiver with the patched firmware, so you need to have the player switched on. i.e. Yes, that sounds about right. |
| 16:36:34 | ixi | ok |
| 16:37:38 | ixi | firmware update -> yes.. aaand nothing happens. |
| 16:38:12 | evilnick | What's the name of the .hex file on the iriver? |
| 16:38:19 | ixi | let me check |
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| 16:38:53 | ixi | ihp_120.hex |
| 16:39:42 | evilnick | And is that in the root folder on the iriver? |
| 16:40:11 | ixi | yes |
| 16:41:25 | evilnick | So what's the full path of the file? e.g. is it E:\ihp_120.hex ? |
| 16:41:37 | ixi | F:\ihp_120.hex |
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| 16:43:07 | evilnick | Try renaming it to ihp_120.HEX and see if the firmware upgrade picks that up, I vaguely recall something along those lines, and it won't hurt to try |
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| 16:44:31 | Jim_ | Hello to all live or dead! |
| 16:44:33 | evilnick | ixi: And to confirm that you're attempting the firmware upgrade properly, use the instructions here: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IriverBoot#Install_it_on_the_iriver |
| 16:45:25 | Jim_ | if any nice gurus present? |
| 16:45:39 | evilnick | Jim_: If you have a question then ask it here |
| 16:45:48 | evilnick | Anyone who can help will do so. |
| 16:45:50 | ixi | nothing again |
| 16:46:09 | ixi | here is a shot to the dark, but can I somewhat check if the device is connceting to HDD properly? |
| 16:46:22 | ixi | i just noticed it says 0MB free, while it's empty |
| 16:46:29 | evilnick | ixi: So when you try to do the f/w upgrade, exactly what gets displayed onscreen? |
| 16:46:35 | Jim_ | I "brick" my Sansa E280 v.1 by inistalling Rockbox |
| 16:46:35 | ixi | nothing. |
| 16:46:56 | ixi | the window with yes/no just disappears |
| 16:47:14 | ixi | and the player is fully responsive, the same way as if i just pressed no |
| 16:47:14 | Jim_ | uninstall came fine, and now it's dead |
| 16:47:33 | evilnick | ixi: I guess that could be something to do with the HDD then, can you connect it to a computer and run chkdsk> |
| 16:47:44 | ixi | i'll try |
| 16:47:51 | evilnick | Jim_: What happens when you try to power it on? |
| 16:48:09 | Jim_ | nothing happens, it' dark |
| 16:48:12 | mc2739 | Jim_: try the instructions here: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaE200Unbrick |
| 16:48:33 | Jim_ | I tried, and nothing helps |
| 16:48:50 | gevaerts | Jim_: did you try holding the power button for about 30 seconds? |
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| 16:49:47 | Jim_ | do it now - no response |
| 16:50:57 | Jim_ | but it's detected under Windows Vista as a Tango player |
| 16:51:14 | ixi | hah |
| 16:51:21 | ixi | evilnick, chkdsk found errors |
| 16:51:26 | Jim_ | starts to search for a drivers |
| 16:51:26 | ixi | should i try /F it? |
| 16:51:46 | evilnick | ixi: Definitely /F it (usual: you should have a backup applies) |
| 16:52:13 | ixi | i can back it up by just copying it over to other disk, right? |
| 16:52:45 | evilnick | Yes, although if the files are already on your computer, then it'd be quicker not to bother. |
| 16:53:03 | ixi | hah, permission denied |
| 16:53:15 | ixi | while copying .rockbox |
| 16:53:18 | evilnick | ixi: What OS are you running? |
| 16:53:23 | ixi | windows XP |
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| 16:54:11 | ixi | oh, its not .rockbox, i cant access System Volume Information |
| 16:54:13 | evilnick | Is there any music on the iriver that you don't have saved anywhere else? |
| 16:54:19 | ixi | nope, its clean |
| 16:54:36 | evilnick | Just run chkdsk /F then |
| 16:56:27 | evilnick | Jim_: That page will fix any Sansa E-series (and C-series too) v1. Try to read it again and follow all the instructions exactly as written. If you have questions then let us know which set of instructions you're using and what happens. |
| 16:57:46 | ixi | i think its definitely dead now. |
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| 16:58:05 | ixi | oh it turned on now |
| 16:58:10 | Jim_ | I did exactly on what it says, I put device in Recovery mode, copied repaire file to it and restarted the device |
| 16:58:36 | Jim_ | it's not restated |
| 16:58:40 | ixi | still saying 0MB free.. |
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| 17:00:02 | Jim_ | it's not restarted |
| 17:00:20 | Jim_ | it has a dark screen |
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| 17:06:30 | Jim_ | anybody live in here? |
| 17:07:15 | * | TheSeven grumbles at FTL bugs that try to hide away from him |
| 17:09:48 | Jim_ | anybody live in here? |
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| 17:10:56 | evilnick | ixi: That's not a good sign. Is the 0MB free being reported by the iRiver firmware (i.e. on the device) or by Windows Explorer? |
| 17:11:20 | ixi | the firmware. explorer gets the size right |
| 17:13:16 | TheSeven | what about formatting that thing? could be a wrong fsinfo sector or something similar |
| 17:14:00 | CIA-85 | New commit by teru (r23289): Use pointer to memos instead of accessing the array. ... |
| 17:14:00 | evilnick | So it could be that the iRiver firmware is having difficulty accessing the HDD, which would explain why flashing isn't working. Maybe try copying a song to it, and then see if you can play it in the iRiver firmware. That way you'll know if the HDD can be accessed by the OF. |
| 17:14:03 | TheSeven | or is it maybe NTFS and the OF can't read that? |
| 17:14:35 | evilnick | TheSeven: Of course! ixi: what is the HDD formatted as? |
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| 17:14:48 | ixi | wait, I'll look |
| 17:14:54 | TheSeven | "System Volume Information" made me suspicious... |
| 17:15:07 | ixi | (i thought about formatting it, but didnt want to brick it) |
| 17:15:13 | TheSeven | that is sometimes also created on FAT, but there you can access it without access being denied |
| 17:16:18 | evilnick | ixi: You can't brick the iRiver h120 series by formatting, but it should be in FAT32 so that the OF (and Rockbox) can access it. |
| 17:16:25 | ixi | yeah, its NTFS |
| 17:16:35 | TheSeven | that should explain the whole mess... |
| 17:16:36 | ixi | so, should i just format it? |
| 17:16:45 | evilnick | We have a winner then! Reformat it as FAT32 and then follow all the instructions again |
| 17:17:07 | ixi | so, reformat, fire up rockbox util and install rockbox again, right? :) |
| 17:17:26 | evilnick | ixi: Yep, that should now work fine |
| 17:17:48 | ixi | now i just need somethign that will format it with FAT |
| 17:18:18 | ixi | format /FS:FAT32 X: |
| 17:18:19 | TheSeven | ixi: h2format is your friend, if it's too big for windows to do it |
| 17:18:20 | ixi | rihgt?:) |
| 17:18:29 | evilnick | Swissknife works fine, and is free IIRC |
| 17:18:34 | ixi | ok |
| 17:18:52 | TheSeven | if it's <50GB, windows explorer should work just fine |
| 17:19:28 | ixi | explorer wont let me format it as FAT, it doesnt display it at the dropdown menu |
| 17:19:30 | ixi | it has just NTFS |
| 17:19:38 | TheSeven | then it's too big. |
| 17:19:49 | ixi | ok |
| 17:20:05 | TheSeven | just use swissknife or h2format or whatever |
| 17:20:14 | ixi | downloding swissknife atm |
| 17:21:53 | TheSeven | evilnick: btw, h2format is free, too |
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| 17:22:55 | ixi | quick or full format?:) |
| 17:23:06 | TheSeven | quick should be sufficient if the disk itself is ok |
| 17:23:43 | ixi | ok, its FAT32 now |
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| 17:27:25 | ixi | iriver sees the drive!:) |
| 17:27:38 | evilnick | ixi: So follow the install instructions, and now that you're using the right FS then it should be a breeze from now on. |
| 17:28:12 | ixi | i still cant update the firmware.. |
| 17:29:54 | evilnick | Is the hex file on the iRiver? You may need to rename it to: ihp_120.hex |
| 17:30:17 | ixi | hm, weird, it seemed to be there, but its not now |
| 17:30:36 | ixi | so.. complete install once again? |
| 17:30:37 | TheSeven | ixi: because you formatted it? :-P |
| 17:30:45 | evilnick | Once you formatted it, then it would have been erased |
| 17:30:50 | ixi | i know. :) |
| 17:30:59 | ixi | i formatted it and then did the complete installation :) |
| 17:31:05 | ixi | well, i'll try it again, then? |
| 17:31:47 | TheSeven | can't hurt |
| 17:32:09 | TheSeven | did you safely eject the device before unplugging it? |
| 17:32:13 | ixi | yep |
| 17:32:27 | ixi | i think i know where is the problem, i didnt eject it after the format |
| 17:32:36 | ixi | so windows probably thought there is still the old one connected |
| 17:33:05 | TheSeven | hm, usually windows should get that, but you never know |
| 17:33:30 | Strife89 | I hate to say it, but a reboot might help as well. |
| 17:33:34 | evilnick | Are you using the Safely Eject Hardware (or whatever it's called) function? It's better to use that than to just disconnect the USB cable |
| 17:33:37 | ixi | hmm, strange, i did the complete installation and it booted straight into rockbox now :) |
| 17:33:43 | ixi | yep i am, evilnick |
| 17:33:50 | ixi | well, it seems everything is allright now, then |
| 17:34:14 | Strife89 | ixi: Test out Rockbox first. :) |
| 17:34:20 | evilnick | So you must have flashed the OF with the patched update as now the bootloader is working |
| 17:34:33 | evilnick | Unless... How did you get this player? |
| 17:34:37 | ixi | its secondhand |
| 17:34:58 | TheSeven | there's probably an old bootloader left over from that failed installation try of the previous owner |
| 17:35:04 | ixi | it was rockboxed before, becasue it had the bootloader, but it didnt boot up, cause of the NTFS |
| 17:35:13 | evilnick | Aha, what probably happened is that Rockbox was installed before, but the old owner formatted it as NTFS and then assumed that it was bricked |
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| 17:35:21 | evilnick | ixi: Exactly :) |
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| 17:35:38 | Strife89 | Out of curiosity, what's the model? :) |
| 17:35:43 | ixi | well, anyway, it seems to work perfectly now.. thanks a lot guys, you saved me my sanity! :) |
| 17:35:46 | TheSeven | "unbricking" can be really easy sometimes :-) |
| 17:35:56 | ixi | Strife89, h120, modded with 40GB HDD :) |
| 17:36:04 | Strife89 | ixi: Nice. :) |
| 17:36:49 | ixi | i was already thinking the worst, that it got damaged on the road.. thank you so much again :) |
| 17:37:21 | evilnick | ixi: Glad that we got there in the end :) |
| 17:37:45 | ixi | well, thanks one more time.. see you :) |
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| 17:49:42 | TheSeven | debugging it isn't proving easy |
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| 18:46:30 | spacecadet | Linuxstb, are you there? |
| 18:48:42 | spacecadet | anyone actively here? |
| 18:49:10 | Hillshum | spacecadet: I'm here now |
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| 18:50:03 | spacecadet | I have a 20gb 4'th gen greyscale. I installed rb 3.4 last night |
| 18:50:21 | spacecadet | I've noticed one small problem, I don't know if it's a bug or a program feature |
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| 18:50:52 | spacecadet | It can't be shut off when connected to the wall charger |
| 18:51:20 | spacecadet | Not by doing a long-play, not timing out from inactivity |
| 18:52:05 | spacecadet | It runs forever, and because it's running it's not really charging so well |
| 18:52:26 | saratoga | you can only charge an ipod while its running, but I think rockbox doesn't charge them |
| 18:53:01 | spacecadet | on the ipod firmware, I can power it down and it will still keep charging |
| 18:53:41 | Hillshum | It only sleeps |
| 18:53:57 | spacecadet | that at least lets it charge |
| 18:54:16 | spacecadet | under rb, it's fully on the whole time |
| 18:55:50 | saratoga | i don't even think the ipod firmware lets you power them down |
| 18:56:03 | saratoga | IIRC the best it can do is turn the screen off |
| 18:56:20 | rasher | saratoga: it also puts the cpu to a rather deep sleep |
| 18:56:20 | spacecadet | apparently that helps |
| 18:57:31 | spacecadet | I left it plugged in (and running) all night under rb, it's still no more charged now than it was then |
| 18:58:15 | saratoga | spacecadet: as I said above i don't think rockbox charges your ipod at all |
| 18:58:40 | spacecadet | then how canit be charged when rb is the controlling formware? |
| 18:58:56 | TheSeven | spacecadet: it just can't. boot to the OF if you want to charge. |
| 18:59:56 | spacecadet | That sounds like a feature for 3.5 |
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| 19:00:16 | TheSeven | if it would be easy, it would have been done long ago. |
| 19:00:24 | TheSeven | damn. the FTL has a pool block leak! |
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| 19:02:19 | spacecadet | if the wall charger isn't connected it lets me power it off, using long-play. why is it so hard to do that when there's a wall charger? |
| 19:02:33 | topik | i wonder if i should fill my nano with tunes or keep breaking it for a while |
| 19:04:43 | topik | i resorted to using itunes in the end, TheSeven. your disk image with the iloader boot menu had too many options i wouldn't use |
| 19:04:51 | topik | thanks for your gracious help though |
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| 19:05:11 | TheSeven | topik: the re-uploaded one was supposed to have the rockbox bootloader instead of iloader? |
| 19:05:28 | topik | no, still had the iloader one |
| 19:05:33 | saratoga | spacecadet: I think ipods automatically power up when connected to a charger |
| 19:05:36 | * | TheSeven needs to check |
| 19:06:15 | saratoga | most MP3 players do so that they can charge |
| 19:06:18 | spacecadet | saratoga, yes they do, but under ipod firmware they can be put back to sleep |
| 19:06:58 | saratoga | spacecadet: I don't think the ipod firmware's charge mode is much different then rockbox's |
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| 19:07:15 | spacecadet | under rb it's not charging |
| 19:07:35 | saratoga | spacecadet: have you read anything i've told you? |
| 19:07:41 | spacecadet | actually under ipod it wouldn't charge if I left it on all the time |
| 19:08:18 | gevaerts | spacecadet: if that's true the battery is dead |
| 19:09:03 | spacecadet | the day before I switched to rb, the batter lasted for a good 7 hours |
| 19:09:26 | gevaerts | either that or your wall charger is broken |
| 19:09:54 | spacecadet | it charges pretty fast if the ipod isn't running |
| 19:10:10 | * | gevaerts wonders if TheSeven noticed the red |
| 19:11:06 | gevaerts | spacecadet: is this an official Apple charger? |
| 19:11:08 | TheSeven | gevaerts: Indeed i didn't. What the hell. It compiles fine over here? |
| 19:11:19 | spacecadet | yes, the official charger |
| 19:11:43 | gevaerts | and it doesn't charge if the OF is running either? |
| 19:12:06 | TheSeven | gevaerts: the build system does always start with a clean tree? |
| 19:12:16 | spacecadet | if I keep the ipod fully running, it doesn't charge to well |
| 19:12:16 | gevaerts | TheSeven: it should... |
| 19:12:44 | TheSeven | this smells badly like a dependency issue to me |
| 19:13:24 | TheSeven | gevaerts: btw, you're red, too |
| 19:13:29 | gevaerts | I know... |
| 19:15:14 | CIA-85 | New commit by gevaerts (r23292): wps_screen is still needed for the HAVE_REMOTE_LCD case |
| 19:15:25 | * | gevaerts gets green paint |
| 19:15:42 | * | TheSeven checks out SVN head and recompiles that |
| 19:16:41 | spacecadet | call it design flaw, then? |
| 19:17:34 | spacecadet | bye |
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| 19:18:49 | gevaerts | TheSeven: I think I see what's going on |
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| 19:20:45 | TheSeven | hm, in fact. but why does it work in my other working copy then. |
| 19:21:26 | CIA-85 | New commit by gevaerts (r23293): USB_ENABLE_HID can be enabled without USE_ROCKBOX_USB, so move the usb_hid and usb_hid_mouse features a bit to allow for that |
| 19:21:37 | TheSeven | ah. |
| 19:21:37 | gevaerts | TheSeven: USE_ROCKBOX_USB |
| 19:22:03 | TheSeven | yes, my USB disabled tests were done before enabling hid. |
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| 19:25:24 | TheSeven | looks green again |
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| 19:26:11 | * | TheSeven needs a faster build machine |
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| 19:28:12 | * | bertrik hopes to make some steps in the meizu m6 sp display code |
| 19:29:04 | ThomasAH | Hi! My Sansa Clip+ finally arrived and now I'll start lurking here to see "clip+" mentioned, even if it will take some months/years until it will become rockboxable :) |
| 19:29:36 | Kohlrabi | Clipv2 will be sooner, probably |
| 19:29:38 | Kohlrabi | also Clipv1 |
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| 19:30:00 | Kohlrabi | Besides, Clip+ finally HAS gapless playback and replaygain, so much increased value compared to the old ones |
| 19:30:05 | Kohlrabi | and folder browsing ;) |
| 19:30:30 | ThomasAH | Kohlrabi: a co-worker has a clipv1, but I could not live with another proprietary connector cable |
| 19:30:40 | * | bertrik wonders if the people at sandisk follow rockbox |
| 19:30:43 | CIA-85 | New commit by gevaerts (r23294): usb_keypad_mode shouldn't depend on SIMULATOR |
| 19:31:15 | ThomasAH | Kohlrabi: yes, folder browsing and ogg support were the other must-haves :) |
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| 19:31:30 | bertrik | clipv1 has a standard USB mini connector (if I remember the name correctly) |
| 19:31:51 | saratoga | i get the impression that they do since they seem intent on adding our features to their firmware |
| 19:31:55 | Kohlrabi | ThomasAH: Clipv2 at least has vorbis support |
| 19:31:58 | Kohlrabi | dunno about Clipv1 |
| 19:32:21 | ThomasAH | Kohlrabi: but still the proprietary connector |
| 19:32:25 | Kohlrabi | dunno |
| 19:32:28 | saratoga | no its USB |
| 19:32:38 | saratoga | anyway, the clip retail firmware is off topic here |
| 19:32:38 | Kohlrabi | Thought so too |
| 19:32:40 | ThomasAH | bertrik: standard USB mini? It did not look like that |
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| 19:32:55 | Kohlrabi | Mainly apple is doing their vendor-lock-in stuff |
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| 19:36:56 | gevaerts | I suspect USB_ENABLE_HID should just not be defined for SIMULATOR... |
| 19:37:15 | gevaerts | if someone wants to have a go, feel free :) |
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| 19:46:14 | domonoky | Bob_C: is the adc in the mini2440 used for something currently ? ( i have now sensible touch readings, but have to disable normal adc reading for it) |
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| 19:48:28 | Bob_C | The adc code was quickly adapted from the gigabeat code, I have not done any testing. On Mini2440, channel 0 is a test pot on the board, ch 4-7 are connected to the LCD I beleive - that all I know really |
| 19:50:02 | domonoky | Bob_C: oki, so there is currently no direct use for this, and i can disable it. Till we rework adc reading for mini2440 to support both touch and normal adc channels. |
| 19:53:09 | Bob_C | Sure, I am fine with that. |
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| 20:06:13 | TheSeven | heck, the FTL really is a can of worms... |
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| 20:26:56 | kugel | gevaerts: can FS #10695 be closed? |
| 20:27:20 | gevaerts | kugel: oh, yes. mc2739 should have closed it :) |
| 20:28:01 | kugel | and I thought I didn't break anything with my commit. don't trust too much in the build table ;/ |
| 20:28:32 | gevaerts | it's better now. I improved the checkwps build a bit, so you would notice that error now |
| 20:28:54 | kugel | no don't get me wrong, having no red was totally fine :D |
| 20:30:23 | * | Dgby714 is thinking of getting a mini2440 and wondering if rockbox atm supports teh 7" lcd? |
| 20:30:30 | Dgby714 | the* |
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| 20:33:24 | CIA-85 | New commit by gevaerts (r23295): Don't selecu any usb class drivers for a simulator build |
| 20:36:19 | * | gevaerts doesn't believe that any simulator ever compiled since HID was introduced. All those greens were lying |
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| 20:49:01 | gitster | kugel, I've updated FS #10680 and FS #10681 (%?Sp<...>, %Ss, and %?Ss<...>), per your suggestion to move the "normal value" to the last slot. |
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| 20:54:16 | kugel | does anyone else have an opinion on this? |
| 20:55:39 | domonoky | Dgby714: it probably needs another lcd-driver.. |
| 20:55:50 | Dgby714 | ok |
| 20:56:04 | gevaerts | kugel: they look like nice things to have to me. I have no opinion on letter-choice or code (not my area) |
| 20:56:21 | gitster | I actually have a design level issue for them |
| 20:56:38 | kugel | I mean whether 100% pitch (which is the default value, but also the 'off' value) being last or within |
| 20:56:44 | gitster | Is this a good place to outline the issue and ask for opinions? |
| 20:57:20 | * | gitster is coming from git land and we conduct our business on mailing list... |
| 20:57:28 | domonoky | gitster: sure, just ask :-) |
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| 20:57:58 | gevaerts | kugel: sorry, no idea |
| 20:58:07 | gitster | Ok, the current patch does $?Ss<slowest|slower|faster|fastest|normal> when you have 5 items on the list. |
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| 20:59:10 | gitster | I do not care too much about where the "normal" should sit (which is what kugel earlier solicited opinions on), but the design issue I have is adjusting the steps for each levels, depending on how large the set of choices are. |
| 20:59:41 | kugel | what design issue? |
| 20:59:46 | gitster | Currently, I count the number of slots for settings below normal (in 5-item array case, there are slowest and slower so there are two). |
| 20:59:56 | gitster | Then I divide 100% by this number and get 50% as the step. |
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| 21:00:26 | gitster | Hence you get %?Ss<0%..49%|50%..99%|101%..150%|150%..infinity|100%>. |
| 21:01:09 | gitster | While this scheme will give you the ultimate flexibility (if you want 5% increment, you can write 41-choice $?Ss<...> conditional in your .wps file), I somehow find it sucks in practice. |
| 21:02:41 | kugel | I guess you want steps below 100 half as big |
| 21:02:52 | gitster | Because most of the time people would play around 100% (iow, slightly slower or slightly faster is common, and I suspect you would rather want something like %?Ss<0%..89%|90%..94%|95%..99%|101%..104%|105%..109%|110%..infinity|normal>). |
| 21:03:17 | kugel | well, I don't think that works well |
| 21:04:38 | gitster | So that's the design level issue I have with the patch I do not have a good answer for (well, what the patch does was the best answer I came up with, anyway). |
| 21:06:19 | kugel | the only thing I could imagine is to distribute the steps relative to the max value (such as 50..74|75..99|101...150|151...200|100) |
| 21:06:25 | kugel | but I think what you have is good enough |
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| 21:07:44 | gitster | If there is max value (and perhaps min value), that might probably be a better approach. I just didn't know if they (exist|are available to the codepath). I am new to the codebase. |
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| 21:08:15 | gitster | Anyway, nice talking to you guys, and thanks for porting this to Fuze ;-) |
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| 21:11:44 | bertrik | I see a bunch of lines on the display of the meizu m6 sp now |
| 21:11:54 | gevaerts | \☺/ |
| 21:12:14 | bertrik | not resemblance at all to a rockbox logo yet though |
| 21:12:14 | n1s | bertrik: is that better or worse than what you had before? |
| 21:12:29 | bertrik | n1s, before I just had a white screen |
| 21:12:50 | n1s | in that case: yay! and congratulations :) |
| 21:13:13 | * | n1s thinks we have too many ports to keep track of now |
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| 21:18:08 | ercani | hi |
| 21:18:30 | ercani | rockbox works on rockchips ? |
| 21:19:28 | evilnick | ercani: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=10428.0 is the only mention that I've found, so have a read through that thread |
| 21:20:01 | evilnick | But in short, if it's not listed on the front page of rockbox.org then it's not supported. |
| 21:20:30 | ercani | thanks |
| 21:20:54 | tmzt | ercani: there's a site s1dmp3.org or someting, they might know |
| 21:21:06 | ercani | ok |
| 21:21:15 | ercani | there are lots of made in china mp4 players |
| 21:21:34 | ercani | so, i want to try |
| 21:21:57 | tmzt | it's not on topic here |
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| 21:22:26 | evilnick | tmzt: It is if ercani is offering to help with a port |
| 21:22:28 | gevaerts | tmzt: talking about possible ports? |
| 21:22:55 | tmzt | for a z80 device? have you guys seen s1dmp3.org? |
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| 21:23:01 | tmzt | not sure if rockchips is z80 though |
| 21:23:08 | gevaerts | tmzt: not all are I think |
| 21:23:09 | tmzt | ah, try a port |
| 21:23:10 | tmzt | sorry |
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| 21:25:11 | ercani | i want to try for rockchip or ingenic jz |
| 21:26:21 | evilnick | ercani: Have a read of this: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/NewPort |
| 21:26:29 | ercani | but there is not much information about rockchip |
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| 21:27:38 | evilnick | All the knowledge that Rockbox has collected about those will be in the forum thread that I linked to, and/or the wiki page (if it exists) for that port. |
| 21:28:16 | ercani | I am reading it. by the way, rockbox has TTS engine working on mp4 player? |
| 21:28:30 | ercani | i did not understand it well |
| 21:29:09 | n1s | ercani: no, rockbox can use pregenerated tts clips to voice the user interface |
| 21:29:18 | evilnick | Not quite; it has a system that will speak the names of files/folders but those clips have to be generated while the target is connected to the computer |
| 21:29:46 | ercani | so it is festival, not flite ? |
| 21:30:06 | n1s | ercani: both work for generatign the clips |
| 21:30:27 | ercani | i see |
| 21:31:51 | ercani | it will hard to get datasheet |
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| 21:32:58 | n1s | it's generally a question of if the chip designer/manufacturer has released one or not, this does not seem to be the case for the rockchips from what i've gathered |
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| 21:36:20 | ercani | it is like a blackbox |
| 21:36:37 | ercani | installing linux kernel will be trouble |
| 21:37:46 | gevaerts | possibly. A good thing we don't need to do that :) |
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| 21:41:12 | ercani | right |
| 21:41:24 | ercani | anyone tried for ingenic cpu ? |
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| 21:42:05 | gevaerts | we do have some ingenic-based targets IIRC |
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| 21:42:26 | ercani | it has toolchain and other files on its web page |
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| 21:46:11 | gevaerts | ercani: see http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/OndaVX747 and http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/OndaVX767 |
| 21:48:29 | Bagder | although ingenic is not the cpu... |
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| 21:49:44 | ercani | not cpu? |
| 21:49:49 | Hillshum | The arch is mips |
| 21:50:07 | Bagder | on those archs, yes, ingenic is a company and they make many hw archs |
| 21:50:57 | Bagder | so based only on it being "ingenic" it says very little |
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| 22:20:41 | CIA-85 | New commit by theseven (r23296): Fixed a bunch of iPod Nano 2G FTL bugs. |
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| 22:22:18 | TheSeven | took me long enough to catch these... |
| 22:25:39 | kugel | and there are probably even more! |
| 22:26:10 | n1s | that isn't one very descriptive commit message ;) |
| 22:26:29 | TheSeven | well, it at least tells which area was touched |
| 22:26:56 | TheSeven | if i'd explain why and how i fixed which things, which failed because of which reason, i could write several pages. |
| 22:27:00 | n1s | TheSeven: any chance this ftl is used in other players+ |
| 22:27:18 | n1s | s/+/?/ |
| 22:27:22 | TheSeven | probably a newer variant of it on the newer ipods |
| 22:27:34 | TheSeven | at least we've spotted it on the iphone/itouch |
| 22:27:43 | n1s | sounds good |
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| 22:30:05 | n1s | TheSeven: i meant that you could mention what the symptoms of the fixed bugs were for example, like fix bugs causing <something> (which leads to, maybe) or something, not that important but it usually saves a lot of interested users from comming in here to ask if revX fixes problemY in Z since it touches the files that implement Z |
| 22:31:07 | TheSeven | well, it was the usual stuff, lockups, panics, cases where the norboot will wipe everything after a reboot because of excess corruption, ... |
| 22:31:24 | TheSeven | there's one thing remaining for sure, and that's the power management-related trouble |
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| 22:33:08 | spacecadet | :linuxstb |
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| 22:38:27 | TheSeven | ...and there are even more remaining |
| 22:38:35 | TheSeven | just had a crashing transfer again |
| 22:38:36 | CIA-85 | New commit by rob (r23297): Cleanup and expand D2 charger detection (not yet implemented for D2+). |
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| 22:42:29 | bertrik | not much progress on the m6sp display yet... I'm trying to flash the lcd id through the backlight but I get no meaningful data so far |
| 22:43:20 | TheSeven | no other means of output on that thing? |
| 22:43:46 | bertrik | there's no LEDs or anything. |
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| 22:44:07 | TheSeven | i rather meant UART or even USB |
| 22:44:16 | TheSeven | (shouldn't the TCC driver work for that?) |
| 22:44:32 | CIA-85 | New commit by rob (r23298): D2 should have HAVE_USB_POWER defined. |
| 22:45:02 | bertrik | I think it's very hard to get USB working without any means of feedback |
| 22:45:30 | TheSeven | if it works out of the box because it's the same controller? |
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| 22:46:04 | bertrik | TheSeven, I tried that on the meizu m3 which does have a working display but it turned out to be hard |
| 22:46:14 | TheSeven | not good :-/ |
| 22:46:49 | * | TheSeven curses his ipod for copying music fine, but crashing every time you try to create a folder afterwards |
| 22:48:58 | TheSeven | how can this be ftl-related!? |
| 22:49:34 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 22:49:58 | * | TheSeven really needs better means of tracing the ftl |
| 22:50:55 | polobricolo | TheSeven: how do you enable the usb ? i see int the svn logs it is not enabled by default |
| 22:51:02 | polobricolo | *in the |
| 22:51:12 | TheSeven | firmware/export/config-ipodnano2g.h |
| 22:51:16 | TheSeven | look at the bottom |
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| 22:52:04 | bertrik | TheSeven, maybe you can expose the raw NAND over USB too? |
| 22:52:13 | TheSeven | but beware that the huge amounts of data you can transfer via USB are pretty likely to make even more FTL bugs visible |
| 22:52:28 | TheSeven | bertrik: shouldn't be too hard |
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| 22:52:51 | TheSeven | but it's more like memory structures and code paths that i need to look at |
| 22:53:02 | TheSeven | i.e. why did this just select that block, and not another one? |
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| 22:53:14 | TheSeven | so a bunch of logf with proper output means will probably do |
| 22:53:56 | shotofadds | TheSeven: how similar is the TCC usb controller to the Nano2G driver you implemented? yours looks rather easier to understand than the existing code... |
| 22:54:20 | shotofadds | (not expecting you to know it in depth.. just you said you looked at the TCC driver before) |
| 22:54:40 | TheSeven | i don't think it's similar at all |
| 22:55:05 | shotofadds | doh |
| 22:55:09 | TheSeven | i just used the TCC thing to know which functions i need to implement and roughly what they are supposed to do |
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| 22:55:27 | TheSeven | the actual implementation is more-or-less ibugger code translated to C |
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| 22:56:05 | shotofadds | ah ok, it looks fairly straightforward though. I should at least be able to pick up some hints as to what is needed |
| 22:56:09 | TheSeven | in fact, the s3c6400x controller (which i implemented) seems to do a lot more in hardware than the tcc |
| 22:56:23 | TheSeven | looks like it's somewhere in the middle between ARC and TCC |
| 22:56:42 | TheSeven | shotofadds: which one are you planning to implement? |
| 22:57:27 | CIA-85 | New commit by rob (r23299): D2: Remove the hardcoded driver-level touchscreen calibration, since it's done at apps level as well now. |
| 22:57:50 | shotofadds | TheSeven: I need to make the TCC one work properly :/ |
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| 23:00:51 | ercani | 4M 4 banks 16 bits: this means of 64mb of sdram ? |
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| 23:02:57 | * | LambdaCalculus37 wishes to give a contributor among us due credit |
| 23:03:56 | * | JdGordon| wonders which online retailers accept LambdaCalculus37 credit payments? |
| 23:04:19 | * | TheSeven curses his ipod for apparently causing a STOP 0x00000023 BSOD |
| 23:04:23 | LambdaCalculus37 | JdGordon|: Not a retailer... a man! |
| 23:04:27 | LambdaCalculus37 | A man with Gigabeats! |
| 23:05:25 | CIA-85 | New commit by rmenes (r23300): A man who is long due for credit: added Christophe "toffe" ... |
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| 23:08:01 | n1s | ercani: 4M*4*16b = 256Mb = 32MB |
| 23:08:52 | ercani | aahh, it is small b |
| 23:09:02 | ercani | sorry |
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| 23:09:31 | TheSeven | LambdaCalculus37: nice revision number for that one! |
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| 23:11:34 | LambdaCalculus37 | TheSeven: Heh. :) |
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| 23:11:54 | * | shotofadds wonders what's causing the upload bottleneck from my build client to Sweden |
| 23:12:20 | shotofadds | the last few rounds I've not managed to upload anything except logs, everything gets killed off atfer ~2 minutes uploading :( |
| 23:12:41 | shotofadds | yet a speed tester reveals no problems |
| 23:13:55 | bertrik | gevaerts, did you manage to flash out the lcd id with the backlight on the meizu m6sl? |
| 23:14:15 | gevaerts | bertrik: yes |
| 23:15:33 | bertrik | the OF suggests that there can be two LCDs: one that is detected with the lcd id over SPI and another that is not.. the problem is that not seeing and lcd id could still be valid |
| 23:15:56 | gevaerts | a long time ago though, when the clock setup was different, so SPI might have behaved differently |
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| 23:19:00 | ercani | n1s: biggest one is 128mb ? |
| 23:19:59 | n1s | biggest what? |
| 23:20:06 | TheSeven | millibits? |
| 23:20:34 | ercani | mobile ddr2 ram |
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| 23:20:53 | ercani | 1024 is 128MB ? |
| 23:21:46 | n1s | usually one byte (B) is 8 bits (b) ram *chips* are often speced in bits |
| 23:23:15 | ercani | the higher density is 1024 ? |
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| 23:28:37 | * | kugel notices wrong usage of event callbacks :/ |
| 23:32:32 | saratoga | ercani: datasheets usually say what the units are, then you can convert to bytes if needed |
| 23:33:23 | ercani | i will replace the ddr2 on a mainboard |
| 23:33:42 | ercani | with highest density is 128MB |
| 23:34:12 | ercani | it seems the highest one is 128MB on the market |
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| 23:47:13 | * | kugel pokes bertrik about the dbop patch |
| 23:48:19 | bertrik | I'm done for today |
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| 23:54:47 | CIA-85 | New commit by kugel (r23301): Correct wrong usage of event callbacks all over the place. It's not supposed to return anything, and should take a data parameter. ... |
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| 23:56:04 | ercani | arm926 jaz. has fpu ? |
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