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| 00:24:07 | jab416171 | Rockbox Utility runs on Windows (2000, XP), Mac OS X and Linux. Older versions of Windows (98, 95) are not supported −− Rockbox Utility uses some windows functionality that has been added starting with 2000. Windows Vista is currently only slightly tested due to the lack of a test setup and might have additional issues. Please join us on IRC if you can help out. |
| 00:24:11 | jab416171 | is this still the case? |
| 00:24:23 | AlexP | yes |
| 00:24:37 | AlexP | although vista should be fine |
| 00:24:40 | jab416171 | I have windows vista and windows 7 |
| 00:24:45 | jab416171 | on two separate PCs |
| 00:25:02 | AlexP | both should be OK, but it'd be nice to hear if that is the case |
| 00:25:41 | jab416171 | I manually installed it on windows 7 |
| 00:25:53 | AlexP | You don't install rbutil |
| 00:25:58 | jab416171 | ? |
| 00:26:02 | AlexP | It is a stand alone app |
| 00:26:04 | jab416171 | right |
| 00:26:07 | jab416171 | I didn't use it |
| 00:26:13 | AlexP | So why mention it? |
| 00:26:40 | jab416171 | I manually copied the folder and ran the boot manager thing |
| 00:26:43 | jab416171 | and it worked fine |
| 00:26:55 | AlexP | Sure, but why did you mention rbutil if you didn't use it? |
| 00:26:56 | bluebrother | microsoft usually keeps newer versions of windows compatible with older applications. |
| 00:27:09 | jab416171 | I didn't mention rbutil |
| 00:27:13 | AlexP | You did |
| 00:27:17 | jab416171 | oh |
| 00:27:19 | AlexP | The very first thing you said |
| 00:27:20 | jab416171 | duh |
| 00:27:22 | jab416171 | sorry :P |
| 00:27:29 | jab416171 | I thought that was just rockbox in general |
| 00:27:35 | jab416171 | my bad |
| 00:27:40 | AlexP | No, that is the Rockbox Utility |
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| 00:27:49 | AlexP | That is used to e.g. install Rockbox to your DAP |
| 00:27:58 | jab416171 | DAP? |
| 00:28:04 | AlexP | digital audio player |
| 00:28:15 | jab416171 | okay |
| 00:28:35 | AlexP | Rockbox itself is completly unrelated to windows, linux or whatever |
| 00:28:47 | AlexP | It runs on your DAP, your PC is irrelevent |
| 00:28:50 | jab416171 | okay |
| 00:29:16 | AlexP | Anyway, good to know you got Rockbox working :) |
| 00:29:26 | bluebrother | hmm, the first paragraph on that wiki page reads "This is the automated installer tool for Rockbox." Is something unclear with that? |
| 00:29:59 | jab416171 | •bluebrother• I read "not tested on vista/7" and for some reason I thought it meant rockbox in genearl |
| 00:30:01 | jab416171 | general* |
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| 01:41:27 | ebswift | hi, just spent ages unbricking a cheap sansa e250v2 i bought, and i'm getting terrible sound quality - the voice track is playing very quiet... any thoughts? |
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| 01:46:50 | domonoky1 | ebswift: is the sound quality also bad in the OF ? |
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| 01:48:48 | ebswift | you mean original file? no... some songs sound like they're playing back at very low bitrate too |
| 01:49:26 | domonoky1 | of= original firmware |
| 01:50:16 | ebswift | yeah, it is... i tried booting back into sansa and no good... the next thing i was going to try is copy the OF back on and have it re-image with that |
| 01:51:16 | domonoky1 | if the sound is also bad in the of, it sounds like hardware problems.. does change when you twist the headphone connector ? |
| 01:51:50 | ebswift | i'll try it now... i did try 3 sets of headphones, but i'll just try twisting it around now |
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| 01:53:34 | domonoky1 | you can ofcourse try with a clean firmware,but it probably wont help if its a hardware error. |
| 01:53:35 | ebswift | no, that didn't do it... sounds just like a really low bitrate... i wonder if this thing was bricked worse than i thought |
| 01:53:51 | ebswift | i'll try re-imaging now |
| 01:54:29 | domonoky1 | also try a checkdisk on the player, to see if the filesystem is fine. |
| 01:54:45 | ebswift | k |
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| 02:15:53 | ebswift | i pulled it all apart again, looks like it's just an issue with the headphone connection... weird how wiggling it around when it was in one piece didn't work |
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| 10:03:24 | CIA-85 | New commit by tomers (r23433): Remove tooltip from 'Install Rockbox' button, since no other button has one |
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| 11:05:00 | bluebroth3r | tomers: can we _please_ discuss changes like r23433 before changing it? Other buttons not having tooltips doesn't mean they shouldn't have ones. |
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| 11:11:45 | Bob_C | r23433 does seem to be a case of removing useful features for the sake of overzealous consistency |
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| 11:12:54 | tomers | bluebrother: Yes. All other buttons does not have tooltip. That tooltip was trivial - it was the same text as the label. Do you think we should have such tooltips for all buttons? Does it help accessibility? Or else what benefit do we get from that? |
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| 11:14:57 | Bob_C | What benefit do we get by removing the tooltip? |
| 11:15:19 | bluebrother | tomers: about accessibility we should ask domonoky, he's done more in that aspect. |
| 11:15:22 | bluebrother | Bob_C: none? |
| 11:16:28 | tomers | Bob_C: It just poped to my eyes while working on something else there. I thought it would be a good thing to have some consistency there. I guess you guys don't like that - ok, I'll avoid doing so in the future |
| 11:16:32 | bluebrother | tooltips might be really helpful for cases like bootloader installation on the archos players: currently you can't install the bootloader on an archos, and the user doesn't get any hint that he doesn't need one. |
| 11:17:37 | tomers | I don't object tooltip, but I object trivial tooltip that has the same text as the label - seems to be like a leftover. I think we should have all-or-none approach for such non-informative tooltips |
| 11:17:56 | Bob_C | For consistency, why not add tooltips to the other buttons? |
| 11:17:59 | bluebrother | tomers: what I really dislike is that you don't communicate it. It's a good point that those aren't used more, but this doesn't tell anything why it's the way it is. Maybe it was just forgotten to complete that? |
| 11:18:41 | bluebrother | well, I wouldn't add tooltips simply because I'm working on a redesigned installation tab (the RockboxUtilityDevelopment page has links to early mockups :) |
| 11:19:13 | tomers | bluebrother: I get the point of communicating more. I've posted FS items today, and I'll discuss things more before committing |
| 11:20:13 | Bob_C | Is the "all or none" approach a general policy? |
| 11:20:35 | tomers | Bob_C: Just a suggestion for rbutil's GUI |
| 11:21:07 | bluebrother | tomers: and please try to get more patience −− we have no delivery date or fixed release dates. A patch hanging around in the tracker longer doesn't harm, but committing broken patches generates work for others. Nothing that at least I am fond of. |
| 11:21:53 | tomers | bluebrother: That FS items I've posted to day are going to sit there for a long time.. ;-) |
| 11:22:25 | bluebrother | being consistend in the GUI is a good thing in general, so if we use tooltips we should try to have it for all (at least main UI) buttons |
| 11:22:28 | tomers | bluebrother: I've noticed that when the configuration file does not exist, the rbutil has some buttons enabled, which I *think* shouldn't: Like the 'Font Package', 'Install Themes', 'Install Game Files'... What do you think? |
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| 11:22:54 | bluebrother | configuration file? As in rbutil.ini? |
| 11:22:55 | tomers | Maybe disable the entire tab? |
| 11:23:32 | tomers | bluebrother: No. ~/.config/rockbox.org/RockboxUtility.ini (is there other name for that?) |
| 11:24:37 | bluebrother | ah, the user configuration. Was a bit confused by that, the file usually exists :) |
| 11:26:32 | tomers | I think of the first time user who runs this utility. He shouldn't have enabled buttons that does nothing or produce error messages. True - he gets a message box before that, but that doesn't matter. When the user configuration is not configured properly, unusable features (buttons/labels/tabs) should be disabled |
| 11:27:19 | bluebrother | well, I don't think it's that important, but disabling the complete tabWidget should do it. |
| 11:29:36 | tomers | bluebrother: So I', going for it, and will post an FS item. I think that's important - it looks much better this way. I think current work-flow is confusing enough, and we can't afford having further things that may confuse the user |
| 11:30:37 | bluebrother | well, if you consider it important go for it. Probably done easiest in RbUtilQt::chkConfig() |
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| 11:37:11 | * | n1s has an idea for cleaning up the config-*.h files; moving all the handling of SIMULATOR specific things into config.h so it just undefines things that shouldn't be defined for sims so we get a) consistency between targets and b) cleaner config files, any thoughts on that? |
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| 11:37:45 | n1s | or possibly splitting the sim specific parts out to another header |
| 11:38:05 | n1s | config-sim.h that undefines things |
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| 11:44:49 | tomers | bluebrother: RbUtilQt::chkConfig() is called from many places. Do you think that whenever this function called it should test whether config correctness is changed, and update enabe state of relevant widgets? |
| 11:52:10 | bluebrother | tomers: I don't think that this does much harm. But you patch isn't working correctly. I've just put a comment up on FS. |
| 11:53:15 | bluebrother | btw, why are you assigning tasks to others? We rarely use that, and if tasks get assigned then usually as a "I'm working on this" marker. |
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| 11:56:24 | tomers | bluebrother: I've assigned it to myself, but since I was not listed in the list, I've typed my name in the 'Find' textbox thinking it would set my name as assigned to (stupid mistake) |
| 11:57:23 | bluebrother | ah, ok. |
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| 12:00:31 | tomers | In order to assigned it to myself, I need to change the task status back to New, then press 'Assign to myself' |
| 12:00:47 | bluebrother | Bagder: can you add "rbutil 1.2.3" to the version list in FS? And maybe also "rbutil svn"? |
| 12:03:35 | tomers | bluebrother: How can I know the user configuration is not set? Is that either one of RbSettings::Mountpoint / RbSettings::CurBrand / RbSettings::CurName which are empty? |
| 12:08:36 | bluebrother | tomers: well, IMO it doesn't make much sense to distinguish between invalid and missing user configuration. And for checking that we've got chkConfig() −− i.e. checking RbSettings::Platform and RbSettings::Mountpoint |
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| 13:19:08 | tomers | bluebrother: ping |
| 13:34:04 | AlexP | n1s: Indeed so :) |
| 13:36:42 | Unhelpful | kugel: ah... have you had any further progress? |
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| 13:37:15 | kugel | Unhelpful: I messaged it to you the other day. the next freeze is in create_thread (which we talked about already) |
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| 13:37:54 | kugel | I investigated settings_reset only shortly, I could find something obvious in the related structs |
| 13:38:17 | kugel | and I hoped it was the only freeze so I just commented it out and went ahead |
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| 13:40:25 | CIA-85 | New commit by kugel (r23434): Remove square brackets from the ID3 Viewer related language strings and generate them at runtime. This makes these lang strings actually usable for ... |
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| 15:01:31 | TheSeven | ok, it's up again, but it was definitely down 2 minutes ago |
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| 15:25:12 | CIA-85 | New commit by mc2739 (r23435): FS #10746 - Ondavx777 sim doesn't build: add device picture ... |
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| 15:41:37 | domonoky | tomers: about FS #10747, i think the condition for bootloader_removable is not correct. We should check the flags of the bootloaderinstall classes, and not just check if its != none or != "fwpatcher" |
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| 15:53:10 | AlexP | bluebrother: So it is just the error message you don't see, everything else is the same? (Windows beast) |
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| 15:55:15 | CIA-85 | New commit by kugel (r23436): Consolidate code duplication in WPS volume changing handling. |
| 15:59:34 | psudo | Hi friends.. First of all i would like to thank you guys for puting up rockbox like utility. |
| 15:59:46 | * | domonoky welcomes Bob_C as commiter no.122 :-) |
| 15:59:55 | AlexP | nice :) |
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| 16:00:33 | AlexP | Although everytime someone is added, we get committer #80, then committer #120, then committer #78, then .... |
| 16:00:40 | Bob_C | Thanks :) |
| 16:00:41 | AlexP | I'm not sure who to believe :) |
| 16:00:48 | psudo | I had been waiting for quite some time to put it on my gigabeats |
| 16:01:00 | Torne | is it reasonable to commit someone else's patch if they're not very active? :) |
| 16:01:17 | AlexP | I think so in general |
| 16:01:30 | AlexP | But how not very active is not very active? |
| 16:01:30 | * | domonoky just counted the people in COMMITTERS, maybe there is some other metric ? |
| 16:01:31 | mc2739 | welcome aboard Bob_C |
| 16:01:51 | AlexP | domonoky: I think some people are in that a few times (e.g. the Swedes have multiple logins) |
| 16:02:01 | AlexP | domonoky: But it isn't an important thing :) |
| 16:03:03 | domonoky | psudo: you are welcome :-) |
| 16:03:19 | psudo | Thanks :-) |
| 16:04:39 | kugel | AlexP: usually Bagder announces the correct number ;) |
| 16:04:59 | kugel | Bob_C: welcome \o/ |
| 16:05:13 | AlexP | kugel: Not sure about that - if you look at subsequent announcements hhe has gone down in number with increasing comitters :) |
| 16:05:23 | psudo | I had put up a query in forum and ALexP and bluebrother were replying it.. but still i was not able to rectify the problem. |
| 16:06:26 | AlexP | psudo: It is an odd one that - I don't really use windows so am not much help with beastpatcher on oi |
| 16:06:29 | AlexP | *it |
| 16:07:04 | AlexP | psudo: You are trying to make it dual boot yes? |
| 16:07:11 | psudo | yes |
| 16:07:29 | AlexP | And the nk.bin you have was downloaded from the Toshiba link in the manual? |
| 16:07:36 | psudo | yes |
| 16:08:22 | AlexP | what version of windows? |
| 16:08:33 | psudo | windows xp |
| 16:08:41 | AlexP | admin user? |
| 16:08:52 | AlexP | (I don't think beastpatcher needs thaty) |
| 16:09:21 | psudo | yes |
| 16:09:53 | AlexP | one mo |
| 16:11:47 | AlexP | psudo: Best wait for bluebrother, he knows more about beastpatcher on windows |
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| 16:12:24 | psudo | sure!. thanks a lot. |
| 16:12:54 | psudo | bluebrother: Hi |
| 16:15:47 | kugel | interesting, my last commit didn't help binsize on ARM |
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| 16:20:39 | * | domonoky wonders if the bootloader is really installed on psudos gigabeat s. Does it show new string directly after bootup (maybe just flashing shortly) ? |
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| 16:27:06 | Hillshum | Has anyone else had issues getting saratoga's Clip logging patch to apply? |
| 16:29:57 | psudo | Calling it quit for day. Thanks ! |
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| 16:42:33 | tomers | domonoky: ping |
| 16:43:54 | domonoky | pong |
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| 17:04:30 | bluebrother | AlexP: there are two differences with beastpatcher on windows: (1) it doesn't show the error message libmtp throws on linux and (2) it doesn't reboot automatically. I assume the reboot being the reason for the libmtp error on linux. |
| 17:06:16 | AlexP | Ithink the non-reboot is already there |
| 17:06:24 | AlexP | I'll remove the error message reference |
| 17:08:30 | AlexP | bluebrother: So it doesn't turn off after a successful install? |
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| 17:16:57 | bluebrother | AlexP: no |
| 17:17:14 | bluebrother | but I'll recheck later to be sure :) |
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| 17:19:19 | n1s | does it need a battery-switch-reset then or just a regular restart? |
| 17:20:37 | bluebrother | n1s: the beast doesn't restart in the usual sense −− it only suspends but doesn't reboot. So you need a battery reset |
| 17:21:05 | n1s | ok |
| 17:21:24 | n1s | so a battery switch reset *is* needed after bootloader install (on windows) |
| 17:21:32 | n1s | s/on/from/ |
| 17:23:20 | CIA-85 | New commit by Domonoky (r23437): enable RTC for mini2440. |
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| 17:27:10 | CIA-85 | New commit by kkurbjun (r23438): Simulator: Fix scrollwheel targets without HAVE_WHEEL_ACCELERATION defined |
| 17:31:43 | CIA-85 | New commit by kkurbjun (r23439): Simulator: change the fix around so that it applies to all scrollwheel targets. |
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| 17:45:46 | kugel | kkurbjun: was the first commit incorrect? |
| 17:46:04 | kkurbjun | the firs commit worked, but by accident |
| 17:46:22 | kugel | I was actually going to say that this is probably only needed for HAVE_WHEEL_ACCELERATION, but I never got around really telling it even looking at it |
| 17:46:58 | kugel | i.e. I wouldn't say it worked by accident |
| 17:47:09 | kkurbjun | if you don't include it for all targets the behavior will be different than the target driver implements it |
| 17:47:59 | kkurbjun | it does work without have wheel acceleration, but the data isn't included properly when a scroll forward/back event happens |
| 17:48:10 | CIA-85 | New commit by Domonoky (r23440): make mini2440 bootloader compile again, and remove a few warnings from sd driver. |
| 17:48:28 | kkurbjun | I think this could be done better outside of the target driver implementation, but I'm not going to go fixing all of the scroll drivers |
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| 17:48:56 | kugel | sorry, I didn't understand what you mean there |
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| 17:50:27 | tomers | domonoky, bluebrother: ping |
| 17:50:40 | kkurbjun | when a scroll forward/back event happens it packs the data in the queue event and none of the scroll drivers return scroll forward/back in a read_device call - the simulator was returning the scroll forward/back in the device read call and was not pushing the data properly into the queue |
| 17:50:41 | domonoky | tomers: pong |
| 17:51:34 | kugel | kkurbjun: ok, I just looked, non-HAVE_SCROLLWHEEL_ACCELERATION do this too, I thought they didn't |
| 17:51:42 | tomers | Hi. Thanks for the complements :-) I've updated FS #10748 with some more widgets. I think there's none left. You and bluebrother thought it is ok to commit, so if you could please review this patch, I might commit it |
| 17:53:47 | domonoky | tomers: i think this patch is fine to commit. |
| 17:53:50 | AlexP | bluebrother: Like this? http://pastebin.com/m2623105c |
| 17:54:31 | kugel | kkurbjun: I think the explicit queue_post() is to sync a physical wheel click with one item in lists |
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| 17:55:13 | * | tomers Going to commit FS #10748 soon |
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| 18:06:56 | domonoky | Bob_C: what were your problems with the SD driver for mini2440 and the debug output ? ( I just tried it without SD_DEBUG defined, and it seems to work fine (and much faster ofcourse) for both bootloader and main binary) |
| 18:07:47 | kugel | domonoky: I think writing is buggy without the lot of debug |
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| 18:08:50 | Bagder | regarding the committer amount I tend to "drop" here, I base that on the amount of people with commit access right _now_ |
| 18:08:51 | domonoky | kugel: ah, i didnt test writing. |
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| 18:09:21 | funman | tomers: fs#10741 is ok, please commit it |
| 18:09:23 | Bagder | curently that is 84 people |
| 18:10:06 | AlexP | Bagder: So it excludes e.g. people that didn't ask for a new login on the CVS -> SVN move? |
| 18:10:12 | Bagder | exactly |
| 18:10:24 | Bagder | and there's no duplicates |
| 18:10:53 | AlexP | OK |
| 18:10:59 | Bagder | like linus for example used two different logins in the past |
| 18:11:24 | AlexP | yeah, that sort of thing is what I was referring too (in committers) |
| 18:11:56 | domonoky | kugel: did you now find time to play with rockbox on mini2440 ? |
| 18:12:04 | kugel | a bit yes |
| 18:12:53 | tomers | funman: Thanks. I'll commit soon |
| 18:16:35 | CIA-85 | New commit by tomers (r23441): FS #10748 - rbutil: Explicitly override GUI layout direction setting for some widgets |
| 18:17:39 | CIA-85 | New commit by tomers (r23442): rbutil: Update Hebrew translation |
| 18:18:19 | CIA-85 | New commit by tomers (r23443): FS #10741 - rbutil: Fix mkamsboot Makefile dependancies |
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| 18:19:21 | Bob_C | domonoky: I added calls to mci_delay in send_cmd which allowed reads to work ok, but writes still hang |
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| 18:30:32 | Blue_Dude | I've been running FS #10739 for a couple of days now without issues. Unless there are objections, I plan to commit it this afternoon. |
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| 18:46:37 | saratoga_home | Blue_Dude: sounds good |
| 18:47:57 | kugel | is it possible to block a thread so that it's not switched to in yield/sleep? |
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| 18:49:37 | funman | kugel: using wakeup functions ? (under HAVE_WAKEUP_OBJECTS in kernel.c) |
| 18:50:37 | domonoky | kugel: that sounds strange, you want shedule other threads, but not a specifc one ? if so then this specifc thread should be in a pending state (ie waiting on a wakeup object or similar) |
| 18:51:04 | pixelma | Blue_Dude: did you test with a number of different codecs and switching back and forth between them? |
| 18:51:20 | kugel | I thought of wakeup objects too, but this won't stop the thread from running, right? |
| 18:52:13 | kugel | it isn't terribly important, but the scrolling thread doesn't need to run on some targets if the lcd is inactive |
| 18:52:17 | funman | it will stop the thread from running until the timeout is reached or the thread is explicitely waken, what did you expect ? |
| 18:52:19 | TheSeven | kugel: calling wakeup_wait will block the thread until the wakeup is triggered |
| 18:52:38 | domonoky | kugel: sure it will, the thread waiting on a wakeup object will be not in a runnable state till it gets signaled, so it wont get sheduled. |
| 18:53:05 | kugel | oh right, I see that now |
| 18:54:27 | * | domonoky trys a plugin on mini2440, but gets "incompatible model". Something is strange with the target id.. |
| 18:54:47 | kugel | plugins don't build yet, do they? |
| 18:55:25 | kugel | the plugins on my mini2440 are from the gigabeatf build I extracted at the beginning |
| 18:56:02 | domonoky | kugel: they are not enabled, because noone has done all those keypad mappings needed. But i just enabled it to try the test_disk plugin... |
| 18:56:45 | pixelma | won't the generic touchscreen mappings apply? |
| 18:57:43 | domonoky | pixelma: there are many many plugins without generic touchscreen mappings. Also some plugins need extra buttons defined. |
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| 19:02:03 | domonoky | ah, know i see whats wrong. no PLUGIN_BUFFER_SIZE defined for mini2440 |
| 19:03:33 | Blue_Dude | pixelma: I tested with a directory with different file types. They worked fine. This isn't a functional change, just a code clarification. |
| 19:05:57 | kugel | HAVE_WAKEUP_OBJECTS isn't available for all targets... |
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| 19:14:39 | TheSeven | hey, I just asked something on irc://irc.osx86.hu#iphone and wasn't even grumbled at! just ignored... |
| 19:15:41 | domonoky | uh, the problem with plugins is not a wrong define, but the sd-driver (without SD_DEBUG) doing strange things. My debug output says it has read 5748 bytes instead of the requested 24 for the plugin header. :-/ |
| 19:15:50 | funman | kugel: if this is useful for all targets you can enable it unconditionally |
| 19:16:29 | kugel | no, it's not overly useful ;) |
| 19:16:31 | * | domonoky is worng again.. |
| 19:17:10 | domonoky | the read size is correct, but the data in it not. |
| 19:17:43 | Bob___ | domonoky: there is a problem with the memory map, the MMU sets 32MB for RAM, but the linker is using 64MB |
| 19:18:29 | kugel | arg, horrible hardcodings |
| 19:21:26 | Bob___ | I have some changes to fix this, a quick workaround is to define memory size in configure to be 32 |
| 19:21:42 | kugel | ehh |
| 19:21:49 | kugel | should be easy to fix correctly |
| 19:22:04 | kugel | MEMORYSIZE has the correct info |
| 19:22:57 | kugel | s3c2440.h needs to be fixed too |
| 19:24:03 | Bob___ | the main problem is crt0.s |
| 19:24:42 | kugel | how? |
| 19:26:16 | kugel | IMO, crt0.S should call the set_page_tables() from system-s3c2440.c |
| 19:26:27 | kugel | memory_init() even |
| 19:26:50 | kugel | it's doing exactly the same |
| 19:27:15 | Bob___ | that appears to be how other arm targets work, I don't know why the s3c2440 version of crt0 is different |
| 19:28:19 | kugel | I'm not sure why s3c2440 even has its own crt0.S |
| 19:29:02 | Bob___ | There is a lot of stuff that is Gigabeat specific I think |
| 19:29:45 | kugel | the as3525 has a similar init (almost the same cpu), but it's done in C code and that is called from the generic crt0.S |
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| 19:32:47 | Bob_C_ | I think it could do with cleaning up, but was reluctant to make major changes that might break Gigabeat |
| 19:33:22 | tomers | bluebrother: ping |
| 19:33:35 | tomers | domonoky: ping |
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| 19:34:25 | domonoky | tomers: pong |
| 19:35:07 | tomers | regarding FS #10747 |
| 19:35:09 | kugel | Bob_C_: calling memory_init() from crt0.S and fixing s/32/MEMORYSIZE/ should do it |
| 19:36:16 | domonoky | hm, i now changed the memory define in configure to 32 and reenabled SD_DEBUG, but the read plugin header is still FFFFFF...FFF. is the memory setup only done in the bootloader ? ( i only changed the main-binary) |
| 19:36:20 | tomers | I see similar testing elsewhere in the code. I had no other solution in mind, as this setting is read from the settings file and is used in the other logic, as in installBootloader()... Do you have some better solution in min d? |
| 19:37:09 | kugel | domonoky: very possible |
| 19:38:46 | tomers | domonoky: Maybe have a function in the bootloader base class e.g. bootloader_is_uninstallable()? |
| 19:39:27 | domonoky | tomers: i am not completly sure, but i think the only save way would be to create the corresponding bootloaderInstall object and poll its capabilitys flag. |
| 19:40:50 | domonoky | the capabilities flags already tell you if it can uninstall. To make this clean, we should probably move the setting-> object mapping from rbutilqt.cpp to bootloaderInstallBase.cpp |
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| 19:41:37 | tomers | domonoky: Sounds reasonable. I'll try to work on it |
| 19:41:42 | domonoky | and if there are other places in rbutil doing such a check, it should get fixed :-) |
| 19:42:53 | Bob_C_ | kugel: I think that should do it |
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| 19:52:03 | kugel | hm, we still lack a first commit, don't we? |
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| 19:56:02 | kkurbjun | tomers: hid mode is pretty cool. I finally got the interrupt endpoints working properly on the mr500 |
| 19:56:22 | kkurbjun | it needs a mouse mode though :-D |
| 19:56:49 | tomers | kkurbjun: Nice! Is it committed? |
| 19:56:59 | kkurbjun | no, I havn't committed the fix yet |
| 19:57:01 | tomers | I will gladly help you with that |
| 19:57:13 | kugel | doesn't it have a mouse mode? |
| 19:58:06 | kkurbjun | tomers, so does it need an append to the report descriptor, or a seperate one? |
| 19:58:24 | kkurbjun | oh, I see there is a mouse mode |
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| 19:58:49 | tomers | So it is there already? |
| 19:59:31 | kkurbjun | I'm not sure how it works yet- in usb_hid.c there is a section for a mouse mode in the report descriptor |
| 19:59:44 | kkurbjun | well, mouse control that is |
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| 20:00:53 | tomers | kkurbjun: I wrote it. Ask me whatever is that you don't understand |
| 20:01:10 | kkurbjun | I'll take a look and mess around with it |
| 20:01:14 | tomers | I don't see USB HID keymaps in apps/keymaps/keymap-mr500.c |
| 20:01:30 | tomers | Did you wrote it and it is part of your commit? |
| 20:01:38 | kkurbjun | I didn't add any keymaps |
| 20:01:44 | kkurbjun | it is a touchscreen device |
| 20:01:55 | kkurbjun | so I guess it just uses the default touchscreen setup |
| 20:01:58 | tomers | kkurbjun: What is the status of your work? Do you have USB HID, or do you *want* to have one? |
| 20:02:39 | kkurbjun | HID is working - I can use the browser mode and multimedia modes to control the host |
| 20:02:46 | tomers | kkurbjun: Oh, so it is in apps/keymaps/keymap-touchscreen.c.. These mappings where never tested AFAIK |
| 20:02:49 | kkurbjun | I don't have anything that uses the presentation buttons |
| 20:03:20 | tomers | kkurbjun: Do you have mouse mode? Are you able to control mouse movement with the DAP? |
| 20:04:03 | kkurbjun | I would like to make it so that you can use the touchscreen so that you can move the mouse to absolute positons and act as a drawing pad of sorts. I havn't enabled the mouse mode yet - I'll give that a shot now |
| 20:04:16 | kugel | Bob_C: the hg repo says working audio, is that true? |
| 20:04:22 | kugel | I mean, fully working? |
| 20:05:31 | tomers | kkurbjun: FYI, it would be better to use a 'tablet mode' instead of 'mouse mode' for touchscreen targets. I think I'll find time soon to implement this. I hope USB HID works on my Cowon D2 - I didn't test it yet (needs compiling with some configs uncommented) |
| 20:05:54 | kugel | or touchpad |
| 20:06:11 | Torne | a touchpad is equivalent to a mouse, for HID purposes |
| 20:06:20 | Torne | they're both relative |
| 20:06:23 | kkurbjun | tomers: that makes sense |
| 20:06:24 | Torne | tablet == absolute |
| 20:06:35 | tomers | kkurbjun: mouse keymapping is missing in keymap-touchscreen.c due to the reason I mentioned now. So I guess it won't work for you unless you implement it yourself |
| 20:06:50 | kkurbjun | I'll add that in |
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| 20:06:51 | Bob_C_ | kugel: i have working audio, but it is not in Hg yet |
| 20:07:08 | tomers | Torne: I guess touchpad makes more sense than tablet... Thanks |
| 20:07:22 | Torne | tomers: but that's the same as a mouse, then :) |
| 20:07:24 | kugel | Bob_C_: I don't think it needs to ever land there now ;) |
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| 20:07:34 | tomers | kkurbjun: But I guess it could be removed once touchpad gets in :-) |
| 20:08:26 | tomers | Torne: Laptops has a small touch surface that is similar in size to a DAP's touchscreen. It is never used as a tablet. Always as a touchpad. |
| 20:08:39 | kkurbjun | yeah, I think touchpad and tablet would both be useful on touchscreens |
| 20:08:46 | Torne | tomers: yes. that's what I said. touchpads behave identically to mice as far as USB HID goes. |
| 20:08:54 | Torne | tomers: they send deltas, changes in position. |
| 20:09:31 | kugel | does it handly x and y deltas at the same time? |
| 20:09:37 | Torne | yup |
| 20:09:38 | tomers | Torne: I need to learn this topic further. I think that touchpad still needs to enumerate differently than mouse, USB HID wise |
| 20:10:01 | tomers | and that what I wanted to do - add touchpad descriptor |
| 20:10:38 | kugel | the mini2440 is only $85 if you want to look at it :D |
| 20:13:14 | kugel | hm, does FX have any USB? |
| 20:14:00 | Torne | tomers: I'm *pretty* sure there is no such thing, at least not a standard one |
| 20:14:01 | kkurbjun | FX does not use the SOC usb |
| 20:14:18 | Torne | specific kinds of touchpad have custom interfaces used todo things like detect multiple fingers and handle the side scroll bar thingies and so on. |
| 20:14:28 | Torne | tomers: but the HID spec as far as I can see only has mice and digitisers |
| 20:14:38 | Torne | (and the not yet finalised multitouch digitiser spec) |
| 20:14:40 | kkurbjun | the OF does with it's host mode but rockbox does not implement a driver for the SOC |
| 20:14:51 | kugel | so USB via OF? |
| 20:15:06 | Torne | tomers: as far as I know it does just boil down to relative or absolute and there aren't really any other differences. |
| 20:15:08 | domonoky1 | kugel: afaik the gigabeat f/x has hardware usb ? |
| 20:15:10 | kugel | what's the "host mode"? |
| 20:15:22 | kkurbjun | no, there is a separate USB chip that talks direct to the hard drive |
| 20:15:37 | kkurbjun | so rockbox just enables that for usb mode |
| 20:15:58 | kkurbjun | host mode in the OF lets you copy pictures from a digital camera I believe |
| 20:16:04 | kkurbjun | you have to use the cradle to access it |
| 20:16:13 | kugel | ah, so USB host? |
| 20:16:24 | kugel | the mini2440 has both |
| 20:16:25 | kkurbjun | it is the usb port on the left side of the cradle |
| 20:16:59 | kugel | I mean host & slave USB, and no hw bridge IIRC |
| 20:17:13 | tomers | Torne: Accepts. Se Universal Serial Bus HID Usage Tables, A.7 Desktop Tablet Example, page 134. www.usb.org/developers/devclass_docs/Hut1_12.pdf |
| 20:17:24 | domonoky1 | yes, the s3c2440 has both usb host and device, but only usb 1.1, so thats why the probably choose a hardware chip for usb slave |
| 20:17:38 | CIA-85 | New commit by blue_dude (r23444): FS #10739: playback.c code split |
| 20:18:16 | domonoky1 | so we need a new usb driver for mini2440, who volunteers ? :-) |
| 20:19:05 | Torne | tomers: yah |
| 20:22:02 | kugel | domonoky1: do you have any idea about the license of the same programs? |
| 20:22:31 | domonoky1 | which programs ? |
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| 20:23:24 | kugel | on the dvd |
| 20:23:33 | kugel | s/same/sample/ ;) |
| 20:23:44 | kkurbjun | the 2440 USB looks relatively straightforward to program for - not a ton of information. It doens't support interrupt endpoints for the device side though so that means no hid |
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| 20:25:54 | domonoky1 | ah, you mean the code from the 2440test program ? or the linux samples ? |
| 20:27:35 | domonoky1 | kkurbjun: at least the datasheet says something about interrupt transfers.. but i dont understand too much of this :-) |
| 20:27:57 | CIA-85 | New commit by kugel (r23445): Remove unused #defines. |
| 20:29:35 | kugel | domonoky1: every sample code ;) linux is probably gplv2 |
| 20:29:40 | kkurbjun | domonoky1: looks like I may have been worng, it does talk about interrupt, bulk and control, I was just looking at the section that says "Five endpoints with FIFO", it refers to the non-control endpoints as bulk, but that looks incorrect |
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| 20:30:29 | kugel | Blue_Dude: yellows :) |
| 20:31:02 | domonoky1 | kugel: i wouldnt really care about the licence of these samples, they are only really worth for inspiration/learning not production code. So we wont directly copy them. |
| 20:31:25 | kugel | you never know |
| 20:32:01 | * | kugel wonders if it would be able to get access to the nand/flash/nor from rockbox |
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| 20:34:01 | Blue_Dude | kugel: no shock there. Working on it. |
| 20:34:54 | domonoky1 | kugel: i think access to nand and nor from rockbox wouldnt be too hard, but for nand you would need a FTL. |
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| 20:50:00 | CIA-85 | New commit by blue_dude (r23446): Fix yellow, defines |
| 20:55:05 | darkham | hi people, what's in rumor about fuze v1? |
| 20:56:44 | bluebrother | what rumor? |
| 20:57:48 | bluebrother | AlexP: yes, something like that paste should be fine. I'll verify if what I said is correct later. No VM with XP around ... |
| 20:57:53 | CIA-85 | New commit by blue_dude (r23447): Fix yellow, again |
| 20:58:11 | kugel | Blue_Dude: why are all those #includes commented out instead of just removed? |
| 20:58:19 | AlexP | We deal in no rumours! |
| 20:58:21 | Blue_Dude | This one should do it. Teach *me* to be clever. |
| 20:58:21 | pixelma | bluebrother: |
| 20:58:30 | pixelma | oops, tb |
| 20:58:43 | AlexP | bluebrother: OK, I'll wait until you check - let me know and I'll commit it |
| 20:58:59 | Blue_Dude | kugel: to make it easier to fix yellow. :) |
| 20:59:01 | pixelma | Blue_Dude: also red for the hardware codec target sims |
| 20:59:13 | Blue_Dude | pixelma: done. Same problem. |
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| 21:00:08 | pixelma | well, the commit message wasn't very helpful ;) |
| 21:00:22 | Blue_Dude | kugel: there are a bunch if them, I know. I think there was a lot of define bloat in there and I didn't want to nuke them wholesale until I was really sure I didn't need them. They will go away in the next revision. |
| 21:00:41 | Blue_Dude | pixelma: blame me for poor creativity. |
| 21:02:03 | pixelma | I don't think a commit message has to be creative, more like descriptive - you may wonder yourself what it was you fixed there in half a year |
| 21:02:29 | Blue_Dude | pixelma: true enough, but if I was really curious I'd browse the svn log. |
| 21:02:35 | CIA-85 | New commit by bluebrother (r23448): Don't set the layout direction twice in a row, one time is enough. |
| 21:03:20 | tomers | bluebrother: Thanks for this typo |
| 21:04:05 | bluebrother | tomers: you're welcome :) |
| 21:05:30 | Blue_Dude | That's that then: all green. Back to work to get the deltas green too. |
| 21:06:14 | pixelma | I wonder about the differences in the deltas (especially why there are some green already, other differences look due to architecture |
| 21:07:50 | tomers | domonoky: ping |
| 21:08:02 | CIA-85 | New commit by Ubuntuxer (r23449): FS #10620 - fix a bug in bubbles on c200 thanks to Sascha Wilde |
| 21:08:40 | pixelma | bah |
| 21:08:58 | domonoky1 | tomers: pong :-) |
| 21:10:26 | tomers | Regarding "FS #10747 - Disable actions if rbutil is not configured properly", what do you say if we commit, with this under optimal test, and then work on a solution? Fixing this now will make more code changes than the original commit. |
| 21:10:41 | tomers | This issue was there before, right? |
| 21:10:48 | * | domonoky1 reminds Ubuntuxer the we have a recommended format for commit messages for patches by other authors :-) |
| 21:11:04 | pixelma | Ubuntuxer: my fault for not commenting but the fix isn't enough - it doesn't fix all targets, only the one with the most noticable trouble and it's against the purpose of the commit that introduced the bug |
| 21:11:23 | CIA-85 | New commit by BobC (r23450): Add my name to COMMITTERS |
| 21:11:37 | bluebrother | tomers: is that issue that problematic to require immediate commit? Besides, IMO your bootloader_configure = ... like lines are hard to read as they contain operations |
| 21:11:38 | tomers | BobC: Congrats! |
| 21:11:41 | * | pixelma should really post her version there |
| 21:11:57 | funman | Bob_C_: welcome! |
| 21:12:41 | tomers | bluebrother: Nothing urgent, but I think it should be separated with implementing a better way to test if bootloader is (un)installable. I accept your other remark. |
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| 21:13:44 | bluebrother | tomers: also, the lastest patch in that task still considers bootloader = "none" as unconfigured. This is wrong. |
| 21:14:07 | domonoky1 | yes, i think we can commit it with the bootloader_uninstall issue, as it was like this before. But add a comment, so we dont forget to fix it. :-) |
| 21:14:37 | bluebrother | so if that bootloader_configured checks if the bootloader is installable then it should reflect that. If the bootloader is "none" it's configured |
| 21:14:55 | domonoky1 | i think this variable is just badly named. |
| 21:15:04 | bluebrother | besides, the bootloader is always configured if the target is configured. |
| 21:15:08 | domonoky1 | bootloader_installable would be better. |
| 21:15:34 | * | bluebrother would call it bootloaderInstallable. We're doing c++ here ... |
| 21:15:36 | tomers | I won't commit without uploading a patch and get your reviews first :-) |
| 21:15:44 | Blue_Dude | BobC: \o/ |
| 21:15:48 | Ubuntuxer | @pixelma: I mentioned it in the bug report, but I thought a fix as quickly as possible is good? |
| 21:16:17 | bluebrother | besides, as I commented earlier IMO we should disable the whole tabWidget instead of single buttons in case of an invalid configuration |
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| 21:16:39 | bluebrother | with that patch a user still can (try to) install the fonts package. Or themes. |
| 21:17:14 | bluebrother | which will result in an error message (chkConfig), but if we disable things we should disable all. Or don't disable stuff at all and rely on the error displayed by chkConfig() |
| 21:17:17 | tomers | bluebrother: I believe I already implemented that (disable the whole tab widget). On a second thought, it would be better to *hide* it |
| 21:17:31 | bluebrother | tomers: no, hiding would be bad. |
| 21:17:35 | tomers | ok |
| 21:18:00 | bluebrother | especially if you take screenreaders into account. |
| 21:18:28 | tomers | this will make it more like a wizard... |
| 21:18:41 | bluebrother | but anyway, I'm working on a completely different installation window. That won't have those buttons anymore :) |
| 21:19:12 | bluebrother | well, I don't think we want a wizard. An early version of Rockbox Utiliy was wizard-like but replaced with a layout similar to what we have right now. |
| 21:20:00 | funman | I think having both menus & buttons is weird |
| 21:20:01 | tomers | I gave online support to a friend with an iPod. He couldn't find his arms and legs with this utility. And this guy is a (good) IT guy. |
| 21:20:11 | funman | can buttons be spoken out for blind people ? |
| 21:20:26 | pixelma | Ubuntuxer: what do you have in mind with "basic rework of the layout? It was just that I was reminded that I have something just didn't post yet (as I said, my fault)... :\ |
| 21:20:33 | bluebrother | I'm not sure how good it works right now, but in principle yes. |
| 21:20:37 | tomers | funman: That's other issue. I think Qt's accessibility is still broken |
| 21:20:51 | domonoky1 | the buttons are spoken, but the screenreaders have problems with Qt tabs. thats why we have the actions menu |
| 21:20:57 | bluebrother | tomers: I'd rather call it "somewhat broken" ;-) |
| 21:21:05 | pixelma | Ubuntuxer: a "basic rework" introduced the bug :/ |
| 21:21:57 | bluebrother | and the menu is there for some really simple reasons: (1) the file menu to put the exit entry somewhere, (2) the actions menu was added later to help the blind, and (3) the help menu because ... well, if you have a menu you need a help menu, right? |
| 21:22:14 | bluebrother | but you can use Rockbox Utility completely without using the menu at all. |
| 21:22:17 | domonoky1 | Qts Accessibilty support has many nasty bugs, there is a patch in the track to workaround a few of those. But we considered the code to be too hacky :-) |
| 21:23:06 | Ubuntuxer | I noticed that for example bubbles looks on the Gigabyte S still bad. |
| 21:23:42 | tomers | I think every app needs the same functionality in a toolbar -and- menu. We don't have toolbar, since the main window is a sort of toolbar |
| 21:23:49 | Ubuntuxer | I'm sorry about your further work, to adapt your patch. |
| 21:24:04 | pixelma | Ubuntuxer: that's another issue in my eyes |
| 21:25:35 | Ubuntuxer | ROW_HEIGHT is calculated in relation to the display width |
| 21:26:40 | pixelma | it's not a big problem that this patch got committed, I may reopen the bug report though to post my patch. About the Gigabeat - a vertical layout has been introduced for the e200 and should be doable on the Gigabeats now |
| 21:27:05 | pixelma | ROW_HEIGHT is calculated from bubble or emblem size |
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| 21:27:54 | domonoky1 | tomers: yes, i think rbutils UI could need some rework. (there are a few screenshots of mockups for changes at RockboxUtilityDevelopment in the wiki) Feel free to step in and suggest/code more changes :-) |
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| 21:29:32 | Ubuntuxer | ok good |
| 21:31:11 | bluebrother | domonoky1, tomers: as said before, I'm working on implementing something like in those mockups. Just repeating to make sure ;-) |
| 21:31:21 | bluebrother | but additional ideas are always welcome. |
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| 21:45:35 | AlexP | Whilst not saying rbutil is perfect in any way, I'd question someone's claim to be a good IT guy if they couldn't use it |
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| 21:53:38 | tomers | bluebrother, domonoky1: Posted updated patch of FS #10747. Would appreciate if you review it :-) |
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| 22:15:21 | Bagder | apps/codec_thread.c now has a bazillion //-comments |
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| 22:21:35 | TheSeven | has anyone ever done some plans about accelerometer-controlled games? |
| 22:21:51 | TheSeven | this would be really great. |
| 22:22:19 | bertrik | which targets have an accelerometer? |
| 22:22:42 | AlexP | new ipods only at a guess |
| 22:22:55 | TheSeven | well, the nano4g and itouch have one |
| 22:23:03 | TheSeven | no idea about other targets |
| 22:23:10 | AlexP | None of the existing ones do |
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| 22:48:42 | tomers | Does anyone knows what USB controller the Cowon D2 has? |
| 22:49:17 | Bagder | I think it's built-in into the tcc chip |
| 22:49:32 | Bagder | but I'm not sure |
| 22:49:41 | tomers | bagder: Thanks. I think so too |
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| 22:51:57 | Bagder | right tcc7801 has an internal USB controller |
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| 23:19:47 | pixelma | someone with a Gigabeat remote (together with the Gigabeat) around? |
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| 23:26:14 | AlexP | pixelma: yes |
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| 23:27:02 | bluebrother | pixelma: \o |
| 23:27:42 | pixelma | AlexP: just saw that you also added the Gigabeat remote mappings to the manual. Where are they from, did you try it out? Seems I'm missing something |
| 23:28:02 | AlexP | I tried them yes, but it is always possible I made a mistake |
| 23:28:20 | pixelma | I'm looking at pictureflow specifically |
| 23:28:22 | bluebrother | pixelma: assuming you meant an S |
| 23:28:47 | AlexP | pictureflow will take me a little while to look at |
| 23:28:59 | AlexP | I'll need to build the database, and then build pictureflow |
| 23:29:22 | pixelma | bluebrother: it's the same remote and uses the same mapping so doesn't matter which main target |
| 23:29:37 | AlexP | oh no, database is there |
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| 23:29:44 | AlexP | just building the pictureflow thing |
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| 23:30:05 | AlexP | what specifically? |
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| 23:33:30 | pixelma | well, first I wondered where the mappings for the remote are at all but I see now that those are the core mappings. I wanted to try if it is possible to use our \ActionRCSomething for the remotes too |
| 23:33:47 | AlexP | The manual mappings are correct |
| 23:34:25 | * | AlexP is pleased that he didn't make a mistake |
| 23:34:30 | pixelma | unfortunately I can't try out remote mappings in the sim |
| 23:40:26 | * | Bagder got that build server message too: "Server message: Fatal build error: Missing log file. You have been temporarily disabled." |
| 23:42:16 | pixelma | AlexP: ok, thanks for the info. I know I can compare to svn (a daily built manual) then |
| 23:42:47 | AlexP | for pictureflow at least :) |
| 23:43:09 | AlexP | I don't promise to have not made a mistake elsewhere (although I did everything from the player, so it should be OK) |
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| 23:47:01 | * | pixelma wishes she had an Iaudio remote |
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