| 00:00:21 | funman | Hum I could have made the commit log more explicit |
| 00:00:24 | funman | (about the manual) |
| 00:00:35 | kugel | Bob_C: audio works now? |
| 00:02:05 | Bob_C_ | More or less! |
| 00:04:00 | Bob_C_ | The clock speed of the codec interface is not very accurate through |
| 00:04:30 | TheSeven | rhcp1253: yes, from the hardware side, but it isn't implemented yet in rockbox |
| 00:05:14 | saratoga | whats the Whimory version on the nano2g? |
| 00:05:35 | TheSeven | there isn't really any version number besides an "A004" signature |
| 00:07:15 | * | funman wonders about the 22 bytes binsize increase on e200v2 not present on Fuze |
| 00:08:28 | akur | @bluebrother: it seems the rbtuil CLi task has been stopped for while? |
| 00:08:42 | akur | are there any plans to get it started |
| 00:09:18 | funman | akur: is there info on this project? (wiki or something else) |
| 00:09:53 | akur | for what I've seen in the fs#8571 |
| 00:10:08 | akur | no updates have been made since april 2009 |
| 00:10:12 | akur | 2008, sorry |
| 00:10:59 | akur | and the only mention to this feature in the wiki i've seen is in rbutil development page as a futher enchancement |
| 00:12:52 | kugel | JdGordon: stupid is, we don't need to turn it into a %?<false> thing |
| 00:13:16 | kugel | we can just make it into a %?<|false> thing, avoiding the NULL thing |
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| 00:21:57 | amiconn | Looks like some committers were rather undecided today... |
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| 00:23:34 | kugel | haha |
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| 00:31:23 | * | funman will make no comments |
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| 00:35:17 | CIA-8 | New commit by kugel (r23479): Rework how feature skin tags work (%cc currently) when used conditionally (i.e. to detect a feature). ... |
| 00:35:36 | CIA-8 | New commit by funman (r23480): Sansa AMS PCM: remove runtime sanity checks ... |
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| 00:41:13 | CIA-8 | New commit by funman (r23481): Sansa AMS : reduce size of interrupt source/isr mapping table ... |
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| 00:48:07 | funman | kugel: you have a e200v1 right? could you compare pitch_detector on fuze & e200v1 ? |
| 00:48:27 | kugel | I assume so |
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| 00:49:03 | funman | When I start the plugin loopback is enabled so I can hear myself in the phones, but I can't see any effect on the screen |
| 00:49:30 | funman | reading pcm-pp.c I don't see an obvious thing I might have made differently |
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| 00:56:04 | funman | gcc prefers using the stack rather than r12 ?? |
| 00:57:15 | kugel | funman: will try |
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| 01:01:44 | kugel | funman: I don't hear myself, but I see the notes on the screen on my e200 |
| 01:01:56 | funman | ok so we miss something |
| 01:05:34 | kugel | pitch detector is clearly not meant for microphones :/ |
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| 01:09:37 | pixelma | ugh |
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| 01:10:38 | pixelma | how am I supposed to control the plugin on the c200? I can't get to a menu or even quit |
| 01:11:10 | pixelma | quick look into the code... it combines 3 PLA context, trouble to be expected :( |
| 01:11:33 | kugel | hence my rework, I probably commit soon |
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| 01:11:37 | pixelma | contexts |
| 01:14:15 | pixelma | have to hard power off, I'm not even sure if that's the only problem or if there is more to it - no button presses (short or long) do anything. I only get a blank white screen (could use the lamp plugin instead though) |
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| 01:16:08 | kugel | pixelma: that doesn't seem related to PLA |
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| 01:18:04 | pixelma | maybe it's not but I wouldn't be surprised if it has issues with controls on some targets. I wonder though why it works on your e200 and not the c200, I thought the audio hardware is quite similar |
| 01:19:58 | kugel | funman: pitch detector works here |
| 01:20:04 | kugel | it sounds like a helicopter though |
| 01:20:32 | kugel | it looks like screen updates cause slowness |
| 01:21:04 | kugel | also, is it me or is the recording only put out to the left channel? |
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| 01:22:23 | funman | i think it can be tuned in the recording options (mono mode) |
| 01:23:33 | kugel | it's set to stereo |
| 01:23:51 | funman | microphone is mono |
| 01:24:06 | funman | (afaiu) |
| 01:24:39 | funman | i removed my OF recordings, we could check what it does |
| 01:24:56 | JdGordon | kugel: hehe true |
| 01:25:46 | kugel | funman: I can't listen to the recording, instead it playback a different folder :/ |
| 01:26:02 | funman | ? |
| 01:26:02 | JdGordon | funman: wtf? you do some accidental svn up + ci? |
| 01:26:10 | funman | JdGordon: no I use git-svn |
| 01:26:12 | kugel | zzZz |
| 01:26:23 | JdGordon | ah, you're one of *those* people are you :D |
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| 01:28:41 | * | kugel should upload his fine fuze theme, using sbs, and %Sx |
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| 01:30:37 | kugel | ugh |
| 01:31:03 | kugel | don't dare to enable recording! the main menu in my theme shows a scrollbar with that additional item now! |
| 01:31:29 | JdGordon | *cough* customisable menus |
| 01:31:44 | JdGordon | (03:13:27 PM) kugel: we can just make it into a %?<|false> thing, avoiding the NULL thing <- thats easy enough to do... if we want to do that? |
| 01:32:15 | kugel | svn up |
| 01:32:18 | JdGordon | I think it does make things slightly more obvious |
| 01:32:21 | JdGordon | oh, you did it? |
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| 01:32:46 | kugel | that even saved a buf++ statement! |
| 01:33:02 | JdGordon | haha.. awesome! |
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| 01:33:18 | * | kugel isn't sure why he thought it should point behind the | at the beginning |
| 01:33:43 | JdGordon | as long as the conditional tags get the right token index all should be good |
| 01:34:11 | funman | is str lr, [sp, #-4]! / ldr pc, [sp], #4 more efficient than stmfd sp!, {lr} / ldmfd sp!, {pc} ? |
| 01:35:38 | kugel | JdGordon: it's really an empty true case. the main parsing function just sees the | directly after the opening < now |
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| 01:37:57 | JdGordon | ok cool |
| 01:38:10 | JdGordon | now if only we could stick %xl inside conditionals... |
| 01:38:38 | JdGordon | actually... hmm... we might be able to |
| 01:38:49 | kugel | isn't it possible? |
| 01:38:50 | JdGordon | as long as the |> is on a different line |
| 01:38:57 | JdGordon | iirc it eats the whole line |
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| 01:52:10 | pixelma | why would you want the %xl in a conditional, to get skin RAM usage down or some other reason? |
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| 01:55:58 | kugel | pretty much |
| 01:58:14 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 01:58:26 | JdGordon | except that RAM is wasted anyway.. so its not relly a big deal |
| 01:58:56 | JdGordon | except if you happen to want to load big bmp's in a wps/sbs which is shared on fm (where the images would be used).. |
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| 02:03:04 | JdGordon | kugel: %mp definetly works on target as it says in CustomWPS? |
| 02:03:28 | JdGordon | I'm getting the stopped icon on the sim for fm screen... is that supposed to be like that? |
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| 02:05:39 | JdGordon | rec screen on sim makes no sense at all :) |
| 02:05:48 | JdGordon | it doesnt stop playback (apparently) |
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| 02:07:47 | funman | 01:21 < kugel> also, is it me or is the recording only put out to the left channel? |
| 02:07:57 | funman | kugel: did you mean the wav/mp3 file produced or loopback? |
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| 02:10:48 | funman | I wonder if an ISR can be interrupted, or if the next interrupt happens after the current isr has returned |
| 02:10:59 | funman | (assuming FIQs are disabled) |
| 02:11:24 | kugel | JdGordon: works here, I just extended by own sbs with it |
| 02:11:35 | kugel | funman: loopback |
| 02:11:47 | JdGordon | yeah sorry, didnt realise you had to press start/play/9 in the sim to get it to change from stop |
| 02:12:10 | JdGordon | gotta just do the rec bar now and I can get back to removing the old bar from source :) |
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| 02:13:55 | funman | I don't think we can do something here, the OF doesn't use loopback for voice |
| 02:14:18 | CIA-8 | New commit by jdgordon (r23482): more minor classic_statusbar.sbs changes... display the rec/fm mode correctly |
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| 02:17:00 | kugel | funman: I think only the FIQ can interrupt other IRQs, maybe not even that |
| 02:17:06 | kugel | else, no not on our systems |
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| 02:21:29 | JdGordon | bah, this is going to be painful :( |
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| 02:44:43 | aevin | hey guys. my iaudio7 won't turn on. when I connect it to my pc with usb it always appear in the telechip boot mode (vid:pid 140e:b021). this should happen only when the mode button is held while connecting usb, otherwise boot normally. do you guys know if the telechip normally does a firmware consistency check before booting the image, and hence maybe always enters the special boot mode? |
| 02:46:23 | * | JdGordon sees GET_RECT() in statusbar.c and throws something very sharp and heavy at kugel |
| 02:46:35 | aevin | (alternatively, my mode button has gotten stuck somehow. even though it still feels clicky.) |
| 02:46:35 | JdGordon | .. and explosive! |
| 02:48:56 | mc2739 | JdGordon: regarding your forum reply, if I do not display the progress bar and info, will I be able to regain that space for the UI? |
| 02:49:11 | JdGordon | I dont tihnk so.. |
| 02:49:15 | kugel | JdGordon: change it then, that was from before you guys decided it is bad |
| 02:49:17 | JdGordon | I had thought about that while posting... |
| 02:49:32 | JdGordon | ^ mc2739, not kugel :) |
| 02:50:14 | aevin | and has anyone been able to use tcctool on gnu/linux (native? wine?) successfully? |
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| 03:01:50 | aevin | aevin: you just check out the tcctool source from svn and run "make". easy peasy. it uses libusb :-) |
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| 03:57:59 | Strife89 | Around what revision number was 3.4 released? |
| 04:00 |
| 04:00:47 | mc2739 | Strife89: it looks like it was around r22757 or so |
| 04:01:02 | Strife89 | Hmmm. |
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| 04:01:34 | mc2739 | no, closer to r22815 |
| 04:01:36 | * | Strife89 wonders why Azure Whisper isn't working right. http://themes.rockbox.org/themes/220x176/azure_ultimate_sbs/Azure%20Ultimate%20SBS.zip |
| 04:02:36 | Strife89 | I'm using r23351, with the most recent Mikmod patch (FS #8806) at the moment. |
| 04:02:55 | Strife89 | Building fresh to be sure. |
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| 04:04:01 | Strife89 | If you try it, it's an iPod Color/Photo theme. |
| 04:04:44 | Strife89 | The site *says* that the theme works with both 3.4 and the current build, which is r23482 at the moment. |
| 04:04:44 | mc2739 | I can't believe it works with 3.4, since the custom statusbar was not released then. |
| 04:05:07 | Strife89 | Hmmm. |
| 04:05:16 | mc2739 | s/released/committed/ |
| 04:05:44 | * | Strife89 has been manually installing themes. |
| 04:06:03 | Strife89 | I.E., no RBUtility to factor in. :) |
| 04:06:42 | * | Strife89 is used to the manual method, but might use rbutil if he gets a supported but un-Rockboxed DAP. |
| 04:06:48 | mc2739 | the custom status bar commit was r23258 |
| 04:06:58 | Strife89 | Ah. |
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| 04:07:06 | Strife89 | 7 commits short. :/ |
| 04:07:16 | Strife89 | Explains why it didn't work right, I guess. |
| 04:07:48 | Strife89 | Is there a manual entry for the custom statusbar yet? Or something that explains most of the options and the syntax? |
| 04:07:48 | mc2739 | yup |
| 04:08:01 | kugel | Strife89: you said you're on r23351 which is almost 100 revs after |
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| 04:08:10 | Strife89 | Oh. |
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| 04:08:24 | Strife89 | I misread. ^^; |
| 04:08:41 | kugel | BUT you need a current build for the %Sx tag |
| 04:08:55 | Strife89 | There we go, then. |
| 04:09:10 | * | Strife89 sets up a compiler under Ubuntu 9.10. |
| 04:09:37 | mc2739 | Strife89: documented here: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomWPS |
| 04:11:01 | kugel | Strife89: you can download a current build from the website |
| 04:11:14 | Strife89 | kugel: I know, but I want the Mikmod patch. |
| 04:11:53 | Strife89 | mc2739: Where on that page? [Ctrl]+[F] isn't helping. :/ |
| 04:13:00 | JdGordon | minor problem when you are mimiking the inbuilt bar.... its hard to tell if its working because it loaded the sbs correctly... or because it didnt :p |
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| 04:15:21 | Strife89 | Heh, I also want to clock a build speed on a 64-bit CPU. :P |
| 04:15:48 | * | Strife89 spots a yellow right off the bat. :/ |
| 04:16:06 | mc2739 | Strife89: try searching "Custom Status Bar" on that page |
| 04:16:10 | Strife89 | arm-elf-gcc: /home/michael/rockbox/apps/plugins/boomshine.lua: linker input file unused because linking not done |
| 04:16:33 | mc2739 | that is known, but no known fix yet |
| 04:17:27 | * | Strife89 makes. |
| 04:17:36 | Strife89 | Clock start! :) |
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| 04:17:43 | JdGordon | %?cs<%Vdc%Vdp%Vdr%Vds|%Vdc%Vdp%Vdr%Vds|%VdR|%Vdc%Vdp%Vdr%Vds> <- whats the mistake there? |
| 04:18:24 | AaronM | the fact that i have know idea what that is |
| 04:18:33 | AaronM | s/know/no |
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| 04:18:44 | Strife89 | I concur. |
| 04:19:05 | Strife89 | That looks ... very complex. |
| 04:20:59 | JdGordon | apparently capital letters are no good for viewport labels?! |
| 04:21:13 | mc2739 | JdGordon: can you have that many "|" in a conditional? |
| 04:21:32 | JdGordon | thats *nothing* compared to one of the other ones |
| 04:21:42 | JdGordon | %?Rp<%?Re<%xdea|%xdeb|%xdec|%?Rb<%xdma|%xdmb|%xdmc|%xdmd|%xdme|%xdmf|%xdmg|%xdmh|%xdmi|%xdmj|%xdmk|%xdml|%xdmm|%xdmn|%xdmo|%xdmp|%xdmq|%xdmr>>> |
| 04:21:43 | JdGordon | ! |
| 04:21:45 | Strife89 | Ding! |
| 04:21:52 | Strife89 | Four minutes. :) |
| 04:21:56 | JdGordon | food time |
| 04:22:08 | Strife89 | JdGordon: Woah! What the hell is that?? |
| 04:22:37 | AaronM | my head hurts now D: |
| 04:25:53 | mc2739 | JdGordon: as stated on the custom wps page: 'identifier' is a single lowercase letter (a-z) |
| 04:26:35 | kugel | JdGordon: no, capitals aren't allowed for some reason |
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| 04:28:32 | kugel | JdGordon: though I think that's a stupid limitation |
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| 04:42:13 | JdGordon | kugel: yeah, I agree... ill fix that eventually |
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| 04:50:02 | rvvs89 | Is rb->mktime the only function I can call from a plugin to get a time_t value of the current time? |
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| 05:14:36 | JdGordon | does anyone have any idea how the sample and bit rate settings work in recording code? |
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| 06:00:34 | JdGordon | oh bloody hell... mini2g doesnt have recording :< |
| 06:00:36 | JdGordon | arg |
| 06:01:39 | rvvs89 | Which targets have CONFIG_RTC? |
| 06:02:10 | JdGordon | most |
| 06:03:14 | rvvs89 | I'm aiming at targetting all targets minus the archos targets, will all those targets have CONFIG_RTC? |
| 06:03:27 | JdGordon | all except (I tihnk) irvier h1xx's |
| 06:03:41 | JdGordon | check DeviceChart wiki page |
| 06:04:16 | rvvs89 | right, thanks |
| 06:06:01 | rvvs89 | Hmm, quite a few apparently |
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| 07:20:18 | pixelma | JdGordon: and not all recording targets can use all frequencies (most noticable the v1 Sansas are quite limited) |
| 07:23:21 | JdGordon | yeah, I've hopefully done that bit in a very target agnostic way |
| 07:23:36 | JdGordon | needs testing though |
| 07:25:49 | * | JdGordon has given up on the hope that he wouldn't have to fiddle with makewps.pl |
| 07:25:59 | pixelma | why is the classic_statusbar.bmp not 1-bit? Then it's automatically using fore- and background colours - now you have the transparent part and black (or would need magic cyan)... |
| 07:26:40 | pixelma | then it would be using |
| 07:27:27 | JdGordon | oh, because I didnt know about that :) |
| 07:29:16 | pixelma | at least it should... the bmps work this way in my WPS (and I use it with different coloured viewports) |
| 07:29:32 | pixelma | 1-bit bmps |
| 07:30:43 | JdGordon | does that work on colour targets? |
| 07:31:16 | pixelma | sure |
| 07:31:45 | pixelma | it even works on greyscale with the different viewport shades |
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| 08:34:35 | pixelma | JdGordon: did you ever make custom icons work correctly with monochrome bitmaps? (I admit I haven't tried, just remember that there was a problem which you "fixed" by introducing magic cyan |
| 08:34:44 | pixelma | ) |
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| 08:52:05 | JdGordon | pixelma: I dont remember the problem... magic cyan was for colour bitmaps to be able to use forecolour |
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| 09:37:28 | B4gder | http://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2009/11/02/rockbox-on-ipod-nano-4th-gen/ |
| 09:39:37 | * | GodEater saw it already |
| 09:40:03 | * | B4gder makes a little note ;-) |
| 09:40:06 | GodEater | :D |
| 09:40:47 | GodEater | is there anyone around who knows the theme site well? |
| 09:41:13 | GodEater | I wonder why we bother with "works with current build" in the theme site, and how we change it when it becomes false. |
| 09:41:19 | Zagor | B4gder: you might want to link to a smaller image. that one is 3MB... |
| 09:41:59 | B4gder | I know, it's just that it's awkward for me to do a better fix right now |
| 09:42:10 | B4gder | do a better pic even |
| 09:43:12 | B4gder | I usually try to host the pictures myself to prevent them from stop working in X months |
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| 10:08:34 | linuxstb | GodEater: rasher is the person to talk to, but I think the themes are run through checkwps to check compatibility. |
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| 12:25:52 | b0hoon | hello. |
| 12:26:36 | b0hoon | can i ask for write permission on the wiki page? i would like to append some informations about porting packard bell vibe500... |
| 12:26:58 | funman | b0hoon: what is your wiki name ? |
| 12:27:07 | b0hoon | SzymonDziok |
| 12:29:08 | funman | b0hoon: done |
| 12:29:28 | b0hoon | funman: thank you very much |
| 12:31:49 | b0hoon | can i replace fotos - for example if they are a little better from existing - or should i ask previous autor for permission ? |
| 12:32:25 | funman | well if it makes the page better of course, the previous image will still be available in the history |
| 12:32:44 | funman | if you hesitate there is no harm into having all the photos |
| 12:34:12 | b0hoon | ok thank you once again. regards, bye. |
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| 13:15:11 | GodEater | linuxstb: I just think we should log something more helpful than "current". We should say which version it was checked against. |
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| 13:19:13 | linuxstb | GodEater: Is there a problem then? |
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| 13:20:47 | GodEater | well yes, when a user looks on the theme site and sees theme "Bob" works on the "current build", but it actually doesn't |
| 13:20:57 | GodEater | since it was uploaded 10,000 revisions ago |
| 13:21:03 | GodEater | or whatever |
| 13:21:16 | GodEater | "current" doesn't tell anyone anything imo |
| 13:21:34 | linuxstb | But I mean, is that the case? |
| 13:22:07 | GodEater | yes |
| 13:22:12 | GodEater | someone has reported that in the forums |
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| 13:23:05 | GodEater | ah - though I have of course just noticed he's downloaded it from the themes graveyard :-/ |
| 13:23:43 | GodEater | so I shall just shut up |
| 13:24:16 | linuxstb | I was just about to ask if that was the thread you meant... |
| 13:24:51 | GodEater | so out of interest then - what happens in the current themes sites ? |
| 13:24:56 | GodEater | s/sites/site |
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| 13:27:31 | mc2739 | There is still a problem though. A theme was uploaded that shows it works with release 3.4, but it uses custom statusbar which was not in 3.4 |
| 13:28:44 | gevaerts | 3.4 will ignore that |
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| 13:33:03 | mc2739 | this theme has a %Sx tag and needs a current build |
| 13:36:10 | gevaerts | hm, true |
| 13:40:49 | gevaerts | mc2739: whick theme are you actually talking about? |
| 13:42:22 | mc2739 | Azure Whisper 220x176 |
| 13:44:02 | gevaerts | that one doesn't mention 3.4 for me |
| 13:45:16 | mc2739 | it does on ipod color/photo and iriver h3xx |
| 13:45:23 | gevaerts | hm, it does... |
| 13:45:24 | mc2739 | but not on fuze |
| 13:45:51 | gevaerts | that's presumably because 3.4 on fuze is an imaginary release |
| 13:47:52 | funman | mixing imaginary releases and real releases is a bit complex |
| 13:48:55 | * | Torne eyerolls |
| 13:49:12 | B4gder | is that an imaginary eyeroll or a real one? |
| 13:49:42 | gevaerts | it's i roll, so imaginary |
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| 14:05:14 | funman | I have recording code working with DMA on Fuze, but I have a disk is full error when stopping record |
| 14:06:12 | funman | which doesn't mean disk is full but: audio_status() & AUDIO_STATUS_ERROR, which means pcm_rec_status() & AUDIO_STATUS_ERROR, which means close() failed |
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| 14:10:01 | funman | it could be something else than close() though |
| 14:19:39 | funman | the error I just saw is PCMREC_E_FNQ_DESYNC (filename queue has desynced from stream markers) |
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| 14:43:24 | Blue_Dude | I am confused by logf behavior. Can someone give me a hand? |
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| 14:43:56 | funman | Blue_Dude: sure |
| 14:48:51 | Blue_Dude | OK, it seems that the usual case is for ROCKBOX_HAS_LOGF to be disabled. In that case, if LOGF_ENABLE is defined before #define logf.h in a file, the logf statements behave much like DEBUGFs. Right so far? |
| 14:49:59 | Blue_Dude | And they work. But... if I configure logf to be enabled for the build (defining ROCKBOX_HAS_LOGF) none of the logf statements work anymore. I am confused. |
| 14:51:06 | Blue_Dude | ^^^ #include logf.h, not #define |
| 14:51:54 | funman | I don't know how DEBUGF works. If ROCKBOX_HAS_LOGF is defined in autoconf.h you will see a logf and logfdump entries in debug menu |
| 14:52:17 | funman | "logf" lets you see the current logf, "logfdump" writes it to .rockbox/logf.txt |
| 14:52:24 | Bob_C | I think ROCKBOX_HAS_LOGF just builds in the logf() function etc, but LOGF_ENABLE actually enables calls to logf() per module basis |
| 14:52:45 | funman | logf() calls will appear in the buffer if you have #define LOGF_ENABLE before #include "logf.h" |
| 14:55:22 | Blue_Dude | Well that's just the thing. If I *don't* build for logf, but *do* define LOGF_ENABLE, the logf statements write directly to stdout, which is what I want. If I *do* build for logf, that doesn't happen anymore, even if I change nothing else. |
| 14:56:36 | Bob_C | well surely that is because logf writes to a log "file" and not stdout |
| 14:57:16 | Blue_Dude | Where do I find that file then? And if it's a simulator build, can I redirect that output to stdout? |
| 14:57:22 | Torne | it's not a file, it's a buffer in memory |
| 14:57:35 | funman | Blue_Dude: the file is written to disk only if you go into debug menu and select "logfdump" |
| 14:57:48 | Bob_C | But I admit I was confused by the logging options too when I tried to enable serial output |
| 14:57:53 | funman | if you need stdout debugging, you'd better use lcd_putsf()/lcd_update() |
| 14:58:07 | funman | Bob_C: +1 ^^ |
| 14:58:41 | funman | oh _simulator_ stdout, I'm not sure if that's implemented |
| 14:59:15 | Bob_C | by "stdout" I meant the LCD |
| 14:59:45 | Blue_Dude | My fault. By stdout *I* meant the simulator console screen. |
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| 15:00:55 | Blue_Dude | funman: btw, all DEBUGF does is printf to the sim console. |
| 15:02:14 | Blue_Dude | That's the behavior I thought I was getting with logf, and it's what I was getting before I enabled logf in the build. |
| 15:03:22 | funman | if rockbox isn't built with logf enabled logf() = DEBUGF() so you shouldn't build with logf support in sim |
| 15:03:45 | B4gder | unless you want to work on the logf implementation in the sim! ;-) |
| 15:03:58 | funman | I think logf() is really meant for target onlyh |
| 15:03:59 | funman | -h |
| 15:04:03 | B4gder | yeah |
| 15:05:52 | Blue_Dude | Hm. Not exactly what I thought it was. Which probably explains why I am not getting the results I expected. :) |
| 15:07:26 | Blue_Dude | I wonder if it would be desirable to modify logf to output to the sim console in addition to its other functions? |
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| 15:10:08 | funman | what is __PCTOOL__ define ? |
| 15:12:14 | funman | Blue_Dude: http://pastie.org/679977 ? (untested) |
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| 15:14:26 | Blue_Dude | funman: why the do/while in the macro? Swallowing semicolons? |
| 15:15:03 | Rand_Althor | Since the only frequency option for recording on my e200v1 is 22050, does that mean that I'm just wasting space if I set the bitrate to above a certain kbps? |
| 15:15:17 | Torne | no. |
| 15:15:19 | funman | Blue_Dude: conditionals |
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| 15:15:55 | Torne | Rand_Althor: sample frequency is not really related to bitrate for compression schemes based on psychoacoustics |
| 15:16:35 | Torne | Rand_Althor: you just need to test and see what sounds ok ;) |
| 15:17:08 | Blue_Dude | funman: ok. I've seen that kind of construction elsewhere and wondered what it was for, that's all. I think that would work out. I'd like to check why the logf already behaves like a DEBUGF though. Seems odd. |
| 15:17:30 | funman | #define a() f1(); \ f2() => if(condition) a(); else b();=> if(condition) f1(); f2(); else b(); => invalid |
| 15:17:58 | funman | logf behaves like DEBUGF only when ROCKBOX_HAVE_LOGF isn't defined |
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| 15:18:34 | Blue_Dude | The debugf is right below that snippet in the .h. Derrr. |
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| 15:27:05 | Blue_Dude | funman: I would move line 16 to just before line 9. I assume there's an underscore just before logf in line 12? |
| 15:28:33 | Blue_Dude | No I guess that would defeat the purpose... Never mind. |
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| 15:35:41 | Blue_Dude | funman: doesn't work. The api's expect logf as a function. The fix would have to be in _logf itself. I'll take a look. |
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| 15:42:16 | Blue_Dude | Crud: I have no idea how to pass along arguments to DEBUGF. I never learned how varargs works. |
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| 16:02:48 | webguest34 | Hi! I have a Sony NWZ-E436, is possible install Rockbox? |
| 16:03:00 | B4gder | webguest34: you'll just have to do the port first... |
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| 16:21:37 | Blue_Dude | funman: http://pastie.org/680074 |
| 16:22:20 | pyro_maniac | with "iriver E10" on http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WhimoryFTL is ment the E100 ? |
| 16:25:02 | Blue_Dude | It is alive. :) |
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| 16:30:08 | CIA-8 | New commit by blue_dude (r23485): Echoes logf output to the sim console when logf build is enabled |
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| 16:50:58 | CIA-8 | New commit by blue_dude (r23486): Tweak logf statements |
| 16:51:51 | B4gder | Blue_Dude: surely you're not introcuding more // comments? B) |
| 16:52:09 | Blue_Dude | Just one. :) |
| 16:52:39 | Blue_Dude | That one fires every time there's a queue broadcast. It's annoying. |
| 16:52:49 | B4gder | then remove it |
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| 16:53:23 | Blue_Dude | Maybe someone put it there originally for a reason? Dunno why. |
| 16:53:38 | B4gder | but we don't use // comments, so you did it wrong now anyway |
| 16:53:54 | Blue_Dude | I'm a bad boy. :( |
| 16:53:57 | mcuelenaere | GodEater: re theme site: move your mouse over "Current build" and hold still |
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| 16:57:22 | CIA-8 | New commit by blue_dude (r23487): Playback.c: Eliminate repetitive watermark calculation when the buffer is idle. Also fix evil comment |
| 16:59:23 | Blue_Dude | B4gder: Evil // comment snuffed! |
| 16:59:30 | B4gder | thanks! |
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| 17:19:38 | TheSeven|Mobile | btw what do you dislike about these comments? |
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| 17:19:53 | pyro_maniac | markun: with "iriver E10" on http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WhimoryFTL is ment the E100 ? |
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| 17:24:51 | B4gder | there is an e10 model too, right? |
| 17:25:02 | gevaerts | TheSeven|Mobile: they're not C! |
| 17:25:15 | gevaerts | well, they are now, but still... |
| 17:25:34 | * | gevaerts thinks we should move to K&R style function declarations |
| 17:26:09 | pyro_maniac | B4gder: you're right. i've found it now |
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| 17:33:55 | Blue_Dude | gevaerts: that one's easy: just run the entire rockbox code base through a prettifyer. Posterity will thank you. Or lynch you. |
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| 17:34:43 | toffe82 | for those working o whimory FTL , is this can help you : http://github.com/planetbeing/iphonelinux/blob/53d3def8ec923a496695345855ac759c21d9602a/openiboot/ftl.c |
| 17:34:50 | toffe82 | r it is not related |
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| 17:43:16 | darkham | something new on the fuze side? |
| 17:45:12 | JdGordon | petur: you have a few recording targets yeah? |
| 17:45:26 | petur | mainly h3x0 |
| 17:45:52 | petur | my h120 is broken with Linus |
| 17:46:04 | petur | and the H10 isn't really a recording device ;) |
| 17:46:20 | JdGordon | can you test 10753 anyway? :) |
| 17:46:35 | petur | not before wednesday :/ |
| 17:46:51 | JdGordon | ok |
| 17:47:43 | * | petur sends mail to self as reminder |
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| 17:49:08 | * | JdGordon finds it slightly funny that the rec screen could very well be skinnable before fm... and apparently there is much more interest in the other way around :) |
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| 18:14:01 | Bob_C | domonoky: ping |
| 18:14:08 | domonoky | pong |
| 18:14:53 | Bob_C | I want to change the CPU frequency on mini2440 to be 400MHz, does that present any problems do you think? |
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| 18:16:43 | domonoky | Bob_C: i dont think that would cause any problems, if your clock calculations are right :-) |
| 18:17:43 | polobricolo | with lua, if i place a file in .rockbox/rocks/viewers/lua is it included automaticaly included |
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| 18:18:39 | domonoky | Bob_C: from what i can see in system-target.h and the config-xx.h we already run at 400Mhz when boosted ? |
| 18:18:53 | Bob_C | I have been trying to find a clock frequency which gives an accurate sample rate for playback, 400MHZ is the best compromise I can find |
| 18:19:40 | JdGordon | it shuoldnt need to run that fast for accurate playback! |
| 18:20:06 | domonoky | Bob_C: normally rockbox uses two (three) cpu frequencys, one slow, and one high when we need the cpu power... |
| 18:20:23 | domonoky | so we should try to get accurate sample rate for both frequencys. |
| 18:20:43 | Bob_C | The problem is the codec clock is derived from PCLK via a 1-32 divider, which gives a very limited range of frequencies |
| 18:21:49 | Bob_C | I can make sample rate accurate for 11, 22, 44kHz or 12, 24,48 etc but not both |
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| 18:23:13 | domonoky | as this isnt a portable player, we could also run it at always the same frequency if we want. Power consumtion isnt important for the mini2440 |
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| 18:24:14 | Bob_C | The CPU speed is not really the issue, it's the fact that PCLK = FCLK/8, and ideally PCLK is a multiple of sampling freq |
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| 18:26:04 | Bob_C | This issue arises because the UDA1341 does not have its own PLL, and the IIS clock gen on the SoC is very limited range |
| 18:27:05 | domonoky | ah, HAVE_ADJUSTABLE_CPU_FREQ isnt defined for mini2440, so we already run always at max frequency. So we can just set the frequency so we have minimal error for the most commonly used sample rates. |
| 18:27:30 | Bob_C | So the question is what are the common sample rates? |
| 18:27:47 | domonoky | which is proabably 44.1khz. Many targets only support one frequency on the output. Then rockbox will convert if needed. |
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| 18:29:07 | Bob_C | Is an error of 1.6% on the rate acceptable? |
| 18:30:12 | Bob_C | i.e. it will play at 43.4 kHz |
| 18:31:06 | * | domonoky doesnt really know. but thinks you wont hear it if a song runs 1,6% too fast or too slow.. |
| 18:31:52 | * | domonoky still awaits the Gentlemen mail from Bob_C :-) |
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| 18:32:51 | Bob_C | To get an exact rate, ( <0.1%) I would need to run the CPU at 361.5 or 406MHZ |
| 18:33:36 | Bob_C | I have been told ABBA is not a good choice for first sound... |
| 18:35:13 | gevaerts | surely that's up to you? |
| 18:39:02 | Bob_C | you're right, it's my party :) |
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| 18:44:05 | * | JdGordon| is going to keep annoying the channel to test 0753 untill he gets kicked or a tester or three....! |
| 18:44:11 | kugel | Bob_C: 406 sounds good |
| 18:44:17 | JdGordon| | 10753 |
| 18:45:28 | kugel | Bob_C: isn't the soc specified for 500MHz? |
| 18:45:47 | kugel | or our board at least |
| 18:47:56 | Bob_C | 533 MHz I think, but I am not sure about the memory. Even if its 100MHz, a small overclock is not a problem. |
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| 18:50:20 | Bob_C | The CPU timing also affects the timers, SD, UART etc |
| 18:50:37 | kugel | timers too? |
| 18:52:01 | Bob_C | Sure, the timer module is derived from PCLK |
| 18:52:35 | kugel | PCLK != CPU freq? |
| 18:53:13 | kugel | I believe F/X switch the divider for unboosting, or switch from fastbus to (a)sync mode, not sure |
| 18:53:15 | Bob_C | No, FCLK is divided to get HCLK and PCLK |
| 18:54:18 | Bob_C | i think the CPU can run at FCLK or HCLK which is the fast/async switch, so boosting does not affect PCLK |
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| 19:07:49 | seani | Hi, I can build and test my pause-on-timeout changes against Sansa C240 and Gigabeat F40 physical players, but notice that stubs.c is used when building the UISimulator. I've made suitable changes to stubs.c, but is this standard when working with power management issues or am I missing a trick? |
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| 19:10:37 | kugel | fs10754? |
| 19:11:21 | kugel | the sim can't 'power off' so it's probably not an issue anyway |
| 19:12:26 | funman | seani: you forgot to attach the patch ? |
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| 19:13:39 | seani | Kugel, yes, sorry, 10754. The "issue" is that I now pause when the sleep timeout matures as opposed to powering off. Actual poweroff occurs when the idle timeout subsequently kicks in (or would kick in). Not an issue as it works as I expect on the actual targets, I just wondered. |
| 19:14:48 | seani | funman: Sorry I thought I was meant to raise the entry and then subsequently add the patch in an additional post. I just want to test a few more combinations on the F40 before adding it. |
| 19:15:23 | funman | usually you just open a task when you have a patch to attach but do like you feel ;) |
| 19:17:07 | seani | funman: Ah, I'd forgotten what it's like to be the new boy again, tripping over my own feet :-) |
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| 19:59:43 | amiconn | Bob_C: There are other targets where we're overclocking the CPU a little bit (when boosted) for a similar reason (sample rate relates to the *fixed* base clock, and we want the cpu clock to be an integer multiple for easier timer adjustment and best timer resolution) |
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| 20:00:38 | amiconn | The coldfire target's CPUs are specced 120MHz, but we're running them at ~124.2MHz when boosted |
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| 20:05:59 | sko | Hi, I played around a little to get into C and well... this is the result: http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/405/bootprogress.png . I added a progressbar to the boot-screen (of the normal rockbox-build, not the bootloader). |
| 20:06:47 | sko | Even if the bootscreen is just visible for few seconds... I thought it could need something moving :D |
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| 20:08:48 | JdGordon| | sko: the reason we dont have a loader bar is because it slows down booting :) |
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| 20:11:26 | * | JdGordon| spams FS #10753 again for testers (anyone who ever uses the recording screen...) |
| 20:11:44 | sko | hmm... yes... I already thought that is the reason why rockbox hasn't a progress bar... well, it was a little training, maybe now I can do something useful ;) |
| 20:11:56 | JdGordon| | :) |
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| 20:17:11 | jasio | hi. I sumitted a tiny patch yesterday (10750) to get the Yes/No screen and the keyboard input to work on touchscreen only device. |
| 20:17:34 | jasio | anyone wants to have a look and maybe commit |
| 20:20:24 | domonoky1 | jasio: while this patch looks sane, i wonder if it wouldnt be better to make those screen able to work with the absolute touchmode, ie react on clicks on right places, instead of changing the mode back to grid ? |
| 20:20:27 | gevaerts | jasio: would it really be hard to make the yes/no screen support absolute mode? I can imagine that doing the keyboard is a lot more work, but I'm not really in favour of this sort of workaround in the "easy" cases |
| 20:22:23 | jasio | i'm planning to implement something better. but it's going to take more time |
| 20:22:48 | jasio | for yesno I'm thinking of 2 touch button at the bottom of the screen |
| 20:23:44 | jasio | the keyboard in tricky because the screen is small (on most devices at least) so even with a stylus it might be difficult to use |
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| 20:30:36 | JdGordon| | the attachement size for the forums is too small for a rockbox.zip isnt it? |
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| 20:36:30 | Tomers | rasher: ping |
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| 20:41:09 | Tomers | amiconn: ping |
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| 20:52:02 | kugel | I doubt the slow down due to drawing the progressbar is messurable |
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| 20:52:47 | JdGordon| | course not |
| 20:53:38 | sko | it wasn't on my e250v2, but i don't know if its measurable on older targets |
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| 20:55:29 | kugel | I think booting is just too fast anyway to even consider a progressbar ;) |
| 20:55:31 | JdGordon| | ideally the boottime isnt even long enough to show a bar :) |
| 20:57:24 | kugel | usually most time is spend in the bootloader |
| 20:57:53 | JdGordon| | unless db or dircache decide to do a rebuild |
| 20:58:18 | kugel | dircache always does a rebuild, except on h100 |
| 20:58:37 | sko | JdGordon: i could see this while i was testing this: the bar is already on about 50% when the bootscreen is drawn the first time :) |
| 20:59:23 | JdGordon| | out of curiosity.. how are you updating the progress? randomly through main()? |
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| 21:02:13 | sko | JdGordon: not randomly... but sure sub-optimal: i added a new function to misc.c (as show_logo() is there too), and before every init-call (lets say init_storage() ) the function is called with a text and the amount of boot-steps (as int) (because this can change due to some ifdefs there) |
| 21:03:09 | JdGordon| | is the text ever displayed long enough to be readbale? |
| 21:04:12 | sko | well... i tried the archos ondio fm simulator (the smallest display, isn't it?) and there it gets to long in some steps |
| 21:04:38 | kugel | sko: if you use a macro you could draw the function name directly |
| 21:05:35 | kugel | #define INIT_CALL(init_func) { init_func(); lcd_puts(x,y, ##init_func) } for example |
| 21:05:47 | * | JdGordon| glares at kugel |
| 21:05:48 | kugel | ir #init_func, not sure. |
| 21:06:31 | kugel | what? |
| 21:06:40 | sko | the name of the function will be displayed? that would be nice |
| 21:07:12 | kugel | sko: the preprocessor has some magic to form the arguments of a macro into a string literal |
| 21:07:19 | JdGordon| | using macros because you are lazy is bad... that could be done just as easily (and have the text displayed better) with a inline function |
| 21:07:29 | kugel | JdGordon|: not here |
| 21:07:33 | JdGordon| | yes here |
| 21:07:37 | kugel | how? |
| 21:08:36 | kugel | that's not lazyness. there's no other way to make a function name into a string automatically |
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| 21:08:52 | JdGordon| | static inline void init_call(void(*function)(void)) { lcd_puts(); function(); } |
| 21:09:21 | JdGordon| | ys, but if the point of displayign text is to give the *user* more information, then using the init function name is just silly |
| 21:09:42 | kugel | you clearly omitted the most important fact, the argument of lcd_puts. |
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| 21:10:06 | * | JdGordon| raises his hands as champion! |
| 21:11:21 | kugel | "tagcache_init()" contains as much information as "initializing tagcache", with the automation bonus |
| 21:11:43 | JdGordon| | pcf50605_init()? system_init() |
| 21:11:52 | JdGordon| | imo all those shouldnt even be in apps/main.c |
| 21:12:34 | kugel | system_init should, pcf50605_init isn't even |
| 21:13:02 | JdGordon| | that was an off-the-top-of-my-head-example |
| 21:13:09 | kugel | but the 2 after usb_init are weird |
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| 21:13:26 | JdGordon| | it should be target_init() and then straight into anything from apps which needs initiing |
| 21:13:29 | sko | right, there are two slightly cryptic names |
| 21:13:47 | kugel | isp1362_init and m5636_init, which are both within a CONFIG_USBOTG #ifdef (they could be in usb_init(_device) imo) |
| 21:13:50 | JdGordon| | also.. tagcache *is* wrong because we call it the database to users |
| 21:14:02 | pyro_maniac | bertik: did you ever contact meizu people? |
| 21:15:22 | kugel | anyway, your inline doesn't do what I want, so I win |
| 21:15:23 | sko | yeah... the current messages are more for testing and i think i don't have the knowledge yet to write useful messages for all the init steps (i got 15 + few for some ifdefs) |
| 21:15:25 | kugel | :p |
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| 21:26:25 | JdGordon| | does any of the hwcodec targets share the same screen size with swcode? |
| 21:27:06 | JdGordon| | or the actual question... for rec skinning, should I bother adding a hwcodec yes/no token? |
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| 21:32:25 | petur | JdGordon: I'll look at the patch to see what you're up to |
| 21:32:50 | JdGordon| | yay :) |
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| 21:33:23 | JdGordon| | just adding tags to make it possible to redo the current rec bar in the .sbs skin |
| 21:33:51 | kugel | why does %St not work, btw? I haven't looked at it really |
| 21:34:10 | JdGordon| | because the settings arnt useable directly |
| 21:34:10 | petur | next step will be the WRS? |
| 21:34:17 | JdGordon| | big possibility |
| 21:34:30 | JdGordon| | probaly using the %Vi tag to position the list control |
| 21:35:21 | petur | I'm slowly prepping the histogram |
| 21:35:34 | kugel | they are not usable directy? surely for conditional use an order is sufficient |
| 21:36:29 | JdGordon| | no, because (for example) you want a different display if its using the MP3 encoder instead of wav.. and then the bitrates there arnt the same on all targets |
| 21:36:38 | JdGordon| | also the smaplerate is target dependant appparently |
| 21:37:47 | kugel | recreen sb is a monster :p |
| 21:38:20 | JdGordon| | yep :) |
| 21:38:51 | evilnick_B | So are the old releases (> 2.5 but < 3.4) stored anywhere online? If so, can someone give me a link? |
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| 21:40:04 | JdGordon| | download.rockbox.org presumably |
| 21:40:23 | JdGordon| | http://download.rockbox.org/release/ |
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| 21:42:38 | evilnick_B | JdGordon|: Thanks - but this isn't linked to anywhere from the download page, that only shows the pre 3.0 releases. |
| 21:43:18 | JdGordon| | that link has folders for every one past 3.0 for me? |
| 21:43:38 | JdGordon| | which release are you after? |
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| 21:44:57 | evilnick_B | I meant that if you go to http://www.rockbox.org/download/ then the only link for old releases is http://download.rockbox.org/old_releases/ and not http://download.rockbox.org/release/ so that might need to be changed? |
| 21:45:39 | linuxstb | evilnick_B: patches to the www module welcome... ;) |
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| 22:14:00 | froggyman | why was the gigabeast changed from unusable to unstable? was it just a reconsideration or has there been code changes? |
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| 22:14:19 | JdGordon| | thats a #rockbox-community topic |
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| 22:16:18 | Bagder | it was a re-evaluation I believe |
| 22:16:49 | froggyman | ok, thats what I was wondering |
| 22:16:58 | gevaerts | the beast has always been controversial |
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| 22:22:37 | pixelma | JdGordon|: how does the recscreen statusbar deal with the hwcodec's "quality" setting instead of bitrate? |
| 22:22:50 | pixelma | in your rework obviously |
| 22:22:57 | JdGordon| | right now it doesnt... it doesnt apply for hwcodec yet |
| 22:23:09 | JdGordon| | I'm going to add a hwcodec check and then add seperate tags |
| 22:23:18 | JdGordon| | then it will work the same |
| 22:23:21 | JdGordon| | .. hopefully |
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| 22:39:03 | seani | Could someone take a look at my small patch in FS #10754 ? Thanks! |
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| 22:56:50 | CIA-8 | New commit by rob (r23488): Add touchscreen WPS actions for volume up/down (using a button rather than the slider). |
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| 23:06:46 | AEnima1577 | Hello, I was wondering why some ports of rockbox seem to have song rating built in, while others do not |
| 23:06:47 | evilnick_B | AEnima1577: Rating songs depends on the database being loaded into RAM, as I recall |
| 23:07:05 | domonoky1 | AEnima1577: all targets should be able to do it, but there may be targets with dont really map it to keys ? Do you ask about a speicif target ? |
| 23:08:03 | AEnima1577 | domonoky1, when you say targets, you are talking about different portable players? |
| 23:08:11 | domonoky1 | yes |
| 23:08:22 | AEnima1577 | Im running a ipod video |
| 23:08:38 | pixelma | domonoky1: no, "Gather runtime data" needs to be enabled |
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| 23:09:03 | domonoky1 | pixelma: sure, but it still has the feature builtin.. |
| 23:09:14 | domonoky1 | you just need to enable some option. |
| 23:09:43 | evilnick_B | pixelma: YES! That's what I meant earlier. |
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| 23:09:47 | pixelma | domonoky1: I meant evilnick_B actually, sorry |
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| 23:10:08 | AEnima1577 | so need to enable runtime data... |
| 23:11:08 | pixelma | and then setting the rating is done through the WPS context menu |
| 23:11:14 | AEnima1577 | some of the things ive read on this make it sound like i need to revert to an older build |
| 23:11:29 | domonoky1 | AEnima1577: yes, if you enable this option, the WPS context menu should have a setting to rate songs. |
| 23:11:56 | AEnima1577 | ive been around the WPS menu, all i can seem to do with it is change the theme of that specific window, pixelma |
| 23:12:57 | domonoky1 | you are probably not in the WPS context menu. read the manual, on how to get there. |
| 23:13:07 | evilnick_B | AEnima1577: (long) Hold select when on the wps |
| 23:13:20 | pixelma | no, not the "While Playing Screen" item in the theme settings menu, I mean the context menu you get from the WPS during playback (and if "Gather runtime data" is enabled) |
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| 23:16:06 | AEnima1577 | ok, so i now have the runtime data enabled.... |
| 23:16:22 | AEnima1577 | that was not difficult, yet im still feeling like Im missing something |
| 23:18:11 | CIA-8 | New commit by theseven (r23489): Hopefully fix the remaining iPod Nano 2G flash issues, by adding a tiny sleep after resetting the chip. Also remove some evil tabs. |
| 23:18:47 | AEnima1577 | ok, will the song rating show up anywhere on the WPS |
| 23:19:00 | AEnima1577 | or is it just stored in the background |
| 23:19:12 | JdGordon| | you can display it |
| 23:19:34 | JdGordon| | you need to find a theme which already shows it, or head to the CustomWPS page on the wiki to modify your theme to do it |
| 23:19:37 | AEnima1577 | have to find a theme WPS that has that already built in, or need to write myself something |
| 23:19:45 | AEnima1577 | yea, figured |
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| 23:19:53 | AEnima1577 | thanks JdGordon |
| 23:20:21 | AEnima1577 | ok, one more for everyone, now lets pretend I have had this ipod for years, and been rating all my songs, in the ipod firmware rating system |
| 23:20:37 | AEnima1577 | has anyone ever written a little script of some sort to convert over the ratings? |
| 23:20:44 | domonoky1 | nope |
| 23:21:06 | AEnima1577 | domonoky1, would you say it is possible to do this, |
| 23:21:13 | AEnima1577 | i mean anything is possible right? |
| 23:21:21 | evilnick_B | AEnima1577: It's possible to do so, just no-one has...yet. |
| 23:21:30 | domonoky1 | sure, nothing is impossible in software :-) |
| 23:21:50 | JdGordon| | representing 0.1 as a float is :) |
| 23:21:54 | JdGordon| | and dividing by 0 |
| 23:22:27 | domonoky1 | JdGordon| thats only non-trivial.. just use some other number representation... |
| 23:23:06 | AEnima1577 | ok ok ok, now since i assume you guys have been doing this for a long time, has anyone else ever asked this convert over ratings questions before? |
| 23:23:52 | Bob_C | domonoky1: did you get anywhere with the SD driver? |
| 23:23:52 | AEnima1577 | the specific question: " does anyone have a means to convert the ratings over" |
| 23:24:24 | Bagder | AEnima1577: I don't think so |
| 23:25:14 | AEnima1577 | Thanks again everyone |
| 23:25:20 | evilnick_B | AEnima1577: I have a vague recollection of someone writing a script using MediaMonkey to do this. But, I'm not 100% sure whether that was to keep the iPod OF ratings, or the ratings in MediaMonkey's database. It's in their forum though. |
| 23:25:38 | domonoky1 | Bob_C: not really. I didnt found a way around that last mci_delay() in send_cmd(), but at least we can say for sure it works nice for reading/writing with only that last delay. |
| 23:26:05 | AEnima1577 | thanks evilnick_B ill try to track that down |
| 23:26:52 | Bob_C | domonoky1: ok, thanks, I'll try the same |
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