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#rockbox log for 2009-12-09

00:00:16Bagderit specificly mentions they work, I haven't tried that myself
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00:00:54Unhelpfullovely. i'm not entirely sure things build the same for sim, though. i got different CRCs in test_codec for some files
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00:13:25saratogastripwax: does the sim profile then?
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00:15:54amiconnUnhelpful: Lossless or lossy?
00:16:03stripwax_saratoga - needed to rebuild, forgot to have Map files so profile output wasn't super useful
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00:17:54saratogastripwax_: but at least it runs?
00:17:59saratogai wonder if its an IRAM issue
00:19:15stripwax_yeah, it works fine
00:19:23Unhelpfulamiconn: lossy, aac-he... but shouldn't we be using the fixed-point math on the sim, and getting the same results?
00:19:29stripwax_So two of the aborts I had were in iram. But C0EDBABE is something .. special ..
00:19:40stripwax_Unhelpful - (we should)
00:19:56saratogacorrupted memory address maybe
00:20:16saratogamaybe the codec is overwriting the memory thats supposed to hold the profile code
00:20:43amiconnUnhelpful: For lossy formats I'd expect a few differences. Even though we're using fixed point, platform specific shortcuts may lead to slightly different results
00:20:44Unhelpfulstripwax: i think you had already left before, but i asked if you happened to be using the eabi toolchain
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00:21:53stripwax_saratoga - hm. any idea how that might happen?
00:22:19stripwax_Unhelpful - how do I tell? (I don't think I am, but I might be). I build on cygwin
00:22:21*Unhelpful thinks before committing bs_generic he should add a BS_LOG2... either its own flag value or just a 0 since it's already the default "personality"
00:22:24saratogastripwax_: maybe too much malloc?
00:22:40saratogaIIRC the HE codec will malloc a lot more then the regular, and the linker can't check for malloc
00:22:44stripwax_malloc in iram?
00:22:49saratogaoh hmm
00:23:06stripwax_well, but no, if malloc trashes anything, it could end up resulting in a weird jump to somewhere crazy.
00:23:11Unhelpfulstripwax_: if you built it yourself and used the "e" target. and then used −−eabi with configure. you would pretty much know. but it *could* explain problems like the one you saw if you were.
00:23:15stripwax_but that's if malloc trashes something. presumably, it doesn't .. ?
00:23:32stripwax_Unhelpful - nope, I'm not doing any of that
00:24:08stripwax_saratoga - fwiw, I got it on target with other codecs off this build too. tried fresh build from scratch too. something just seems borked.
00:26:15Unhelpfulheh, i think the sim might be slower under callgrind than my e200 :/
00:26:43amiconnUnhelpful: One example is that for fixmul31 equivalents, it pays off to drop the lsb on coldfire, saving either a multiply or fiddling with the accumulator extension
00:27:23amiconnSo the sim would use 32 bit precision while coldfire uses 31 bit precision. Still sufficient for lossy formats, but crc will change
00:27:43stripwax_Hrm - I actually don't think the profile results on sim are super useful, cos even with map files, I guess the host os relinking means those addresses aren't really the right ones.. (or at least, profile_reader can't seem to find the symbols for anything). Plus, tick times seem to be rounded down (to exactly zero) on my last run. call counts look reasonable but zero ticks :(
00:27:43Unhelpfulknow of any hacks like that for ARM?
00:28:14saratogadid libfaad get switched over to using the new malloc library?
00:28:17stripwax_similar hack on ARM
00:28:21saratogai think it did
00:29:44saratogahmm maybe not
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01:42:54Unhelpfulit seems that the sim hangs forever on exit w/ callgrind :)
01:51:30Tomisso it would seam that none of the "keypad mode" settings do anything on the ipod nano 2g? or perhaps there's something i'm missing, they're supposed to send certain keycodes over usb when you press keys on the nano and have HID turned on correct?
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02:39:31Darkknight512Hey guys, I installed rockbox on my ipod nano last night and was wondering if I can change the icons on the status bar at the top, by that I dont mean change from numarical to graphical
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03:15:25deathkittendoes it work with new ipod shuffle yet?
03:17:38deathkittencan anyone tell me what the best non-isolating earphones would be for gym?
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03:23:46scorchedeathkitten: the list of targets that rockbox works on is listed on the front page ...also, this channel is about rockbox and rockbox only - anything else needs to be taken somewhere else
03:24:49CIA-6New commit by unhelpful (r23903): Extend av_log2 in codeclib into a generic for scanning for set bits, which can provide either log2 or leading-zero-count output, and can force mapping ...
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03:35:26saratogathe sheer effort put into these log2 optimizations is amazing
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04:03:33Unhelpfulsaratoga: it was also in the name of unifying a bunch of different implementations. come up with one way that works best, use it everywhere. :)
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04:07:03Unhelpfulalso the debruijn stuff was interesting... pity it didn't pan out though :/
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04:53:04Unhelpfulsaratoga: i note that while ffmpeg does not do aac-he at present, apparently, it does claim to decode aac faster than faad and ac3 faster than liba52. perhaps it might be worth porting more ff codecs and/or working on aac-he for their aac decoder?
04:53:21saratogaUnhelpful: SBR is in the ffmpeg-soc repo
04:53:32saratogaits nearly complete
04:53:34Unhelpfulsaratoga: even better ;)
04:53:49saratogatheir SBR stuff is probably worth taking
04:53:54saratogai'm not sure about the rest
04:54:09saratogamuch of the difference is just that they have a much faster mdct then stock faad
04:54:31saratogai think someone would have to compare the two in detail
04:54:51saratogato see what is worth taking and what is not
04:54:57Unhelpfulthe mdct you've been semi-working on, isn't it?
04:55:15saratogaalthough hopefully ours will eventually be faster
04:55:30saratogaalmost anything is better then the stock faad mdct though, since it used a slow fft
04:56:26saratogai don't really know much about the complete AAC format, it does all sorts of wierd stuff since its an mpeg codec, i mostly just looked at the parts that seemed to be slow
04:58:43Unhelpfulagain... if the other components are as good as the log2 was... ;)
05:00:50Unhelpfulalso ffmpeg supports e-ac3, but unless there starts being a lot of music distributed in it i'm guessing we don't care ;)
05:01:44saratogaWMA Pro too
05:01:47saratogabut i have to go
05:01:49Unhelpfulyes, i saw just now
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05:40:37JdGordonkkurbjun: ping?
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06:19:14kkurbjunJdGordon: what's up
06:19:31kkurbjunhas a quarterly event with work tonight...
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06:41:39JdGordonkkurbjun: I havnt seen any wierd plugin colours that make things terrible...
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08:01:03FlynDicekugel: FS #10838 has some speed tests for you to peruse at your leisure... ;-P
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08:05:47JdGordonmoment of truth time... all opposed say eye!
08:06:24JdGordonI mean.. nay
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08:25:49CIA-6New commit by jdgordon (r23904): FS #10824 - viewport/statusbar API rework. ...
08:31:21JdGordonthe fix for early statusbar is fixing gui_statusbar_draw() to ignore the global_settings.statusbar setting, which isnt entirely simple, but doable
08:32:01kugelwhy didn't you put LCD_EVENT_ACTIVATION back in?
08:32:15JdGordonI DID
08:32:42kugelwhere is it?
08:32:49JdGordonviewport.c where it should be
08:32:59kugelwtf in viewport.c?
08:33:13kugelwhy should it be there?
08:33:26JdGordonbecause thats what manages the drawing
08:33:33*JdGordon curses checkwps
08:34:33JdGordonwtf is _ansi.h?
08:34:56*pondlife wonders when the extra delta table headings will realise they're unneeded
08:35:00kugelviewport.c should just call enable_sbs or something
08:35:47Bagderpondlife: haha, good point. we better ridicule zagor about them! ;-)
08:36:03*JdGordon forgot to look at the delta table... not too shabby
08:36:28pondlifeRidicule? Nah... not that bad
08:37:07Bagdernah, but he's my kid brother and that's what you're supposed to do to brothers!
08:37:24kugelJdGordon: did you do anything w.r.t. to the yesterday's objections?
08:38:19JdGordonof course
08:39:15JdGordon_ansi.h anyone?
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08:44:10CIA-6New commit by jdgordon (r23905): fix red checkwps
08:44:29kugelJdGordon: you moved set_default_align_flags() into the #ifndef __PCTOOL__ section
08:44:45kugelI wonder why, a function called compiled for checkwps needs it
08:45:04JdGordonyes, i obviously did it on purpose!
08:45:49*GodEater has had a thought regarding the organisation of stuff in the wiki
08:45:54kugelI don't know, what was the purpose of moving it?
08:46:17JdGordonyou mean other than to cause red?
08:46:27JdGordonreorganise it in the file
08:46:29GodEaterwhat if we were to try to mimic the menu structure of a rockbox build?
08:46:49JdGordonthats quite a thought!
08:47:31kugelyou could just have moved it back and decrease #ifdef count
08:47:48GodEaterit's probably a lot of initial work to find all the stuff that needs categorising like that
08:48:00GodEaterbut further down the road you could probably maintain it a bit easier
08:48:04GodEaterany opinions?
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08:49:45JdGordonwell, it sounds like alot of work, and dont we have arguments every few months about reorginasing the menus?
08:49:56GodEaterhehe - no, you do ;)
08:50:14GodEaterseriously, do we?
08:50:15JdGordonwe being me and someone :)
08:50:19JdGordondont we?
08:50:22GodEaterI don't remember the last one of those
08:50:26GodEaterwhat was in the wrong place?
08:50:55JdGordonit always ends up in the same argument... but anyway...
08:51:04JdGordonwhats the problem with the org in the wiki?
08:51:13GodEaterthere isn't any
08:51:23GodEaterI always have to resort to search
08:51:57kugelisn't there already the concept of parent pages?
08:52:10kugelI assume nobody made a nice menu for that yet
08:52:16GodEaterthere may be the concept, but it's implementation is invisible
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08:53:00JdGordonhang on... how do you mean mimic?
08:53:24kugelJdGordon: are splashes still cut of?
08:54:43JdGordonthe splash, the user settings
08:54:49JdGordonthe weather.. time of day
08:55:03JdGordonposition of andromeda in the sky
08:55:17kugel..........are 0-tick splashes still cut of if someone doesn't use a fullscreen ui vp?
08:56:21JdGordonnot nessecaroly
08:57:22kugelcan you elaborate on that a bit?
08:57:56JdGordonI'm not sure how else I cna put it, that I hadnt last night...
08:58:22kugelit was one of the objections and you said you did something against them
08:58:43JdGordonyou didnt ask what I did about it
08:59:28JdGordonbah... show me an example where its actually a PROBLEM and it can be fixed
08:59:53*kugel isn't in the mood for playing silly games now
09:00:06JdGordonthats a shame... I am :p
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13:51:08linuxstbZagor: Hi. Do you need to add "oldname -> newlame" symlinks in ?
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13:51:37gevaertslinuxstb: is that meant as some sort of opinion about the new names? ;)
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13:52:51Zagorlinuxstb: when is oldname used there?
13:53:13linuxstbrbutil ?
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13:54:16linuxstbFiles with the old names still appear to be there, but a build from sunday night.
13:54:18Zagorah, right. in my confused mind it only did daily builds, not bleeding.
13:56:08linuxstbAnd as I mentioned the other day, we need a bootlaoder-ipodnano1g.ipod on the download server (for when the next rbutil is released), as you changed that name in rbutil.ini
13:57:36Zagorthe bootloaders, that is. I'll add bleeding links too
13:58:35linuxstbWhat about the Sansa bootloaders I also mentioned the other day? You don't want to change those to use the new standard names?
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14:03:34Zagorwe should, yes. we just need to clearly separate which bootloaders need specific names. many are obvious, but not all. c200/firmware.mi4 and iaudio/x5_fw.bin for example
14:06:57linuxstbI'm just talking about the bootloader-$modelname.sansa bootloaders (you partly made that change, but then reverted it...)
14:08:15ZagorI want to do all or nothing. what I did was a mistake that didn't match the names in tools/configure or rbutil, hence the revert.
14:09:12Zagoryou could say ipodnano boot was also a mistake, but that at least matches with configure.
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14:16:42linuxstbZagor: Whilst fixing ipodpatcher, I noticed that there was also a bootloader rename from ipodmini to ipodmini1g - can you fix that as well? Also, can you rename the bootloaders inside - that zip file is intended for people building ipodpatcher, so needs the new names as well.
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14:26:48funmando we freeze this week-end ? I don't know if there is work in progress which should be finished before
14:27:29gevaertsif we keep the 23rd schedule and one week each for freeze and branch, we should freeze today
14:28:43funmani thought doing it on the week-end would give more time immediately after freezing, but if it lasts one 7 days it's not important i guess
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14:50:45BagderI propose we push the release schedule forward, like perhaps 14 days
14:52:49gevaertsI'm not against that, as it would give more time to put a decent testing/reporting system in place
14:53:09funmansomeone is working on such a system ?
14:56:46Zagorfunman: yes, I
14:57:45funmanwe could even push the freeze a bit further (after christmas)
14:58:58gevaertsso move it 17 days or so?
15:00:23kugelwe are going to be late again? :(
15:01:02kugelbut well, releasing around christmas is annoying, so i wouldn't mind too
15:02:31*kugel remembers that many people didn't have time for 3.1
15:07:02kugels/again// btw, 3.4 wasn't late in hawaiin time :9
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15:34:27gevaertsBagder: maybe a dev-ml mail would be useful?
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15:53:30Bagdergood idea, I'll try go get one sent later today
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17:21:15n1sUnhelpful: saw you got that unified bitscanner thing in, nice :) a summary on benchmar times? (also did you drop the arm asm implementaion because this was faster?)
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17:51:26PaulJamcould someone change the category of FS #10831 to manual?
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18:02:20n1sUnhelpful: also, did you intend to put those shortcut functions in codeclib.c?
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18:03:06Unhelpfuln1s: gah... no, i did not :/
18:03:25n1si guessed so :)
18:04:47Unhelpfulthis can potentially be one clock faster than usat if the compiler can't fit another instruction between the usat and the use of its result (and i'm not even sure gcc will know to do so), and it works on ARMv5 and ARMv6 without a special case
18:05:48n1syes, it's cleaner, was it fastert than your armv4 asm too?
18:07:16Unhelpfulthe C setup and LUT compiles cleanly on ARM, pretty much test + conditional shift + conditional add, and then fetch the LUT value and add
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18:15:36Unhelpfulas far as speed goes it's *not* a big deal. gevaerts saw a 1.8% improvement on flac -8 on coldfire, my e200 about .5% improvement on aac-he and alac. it's of more value for unifying code than for improving speeds
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18:20:42n1sUnhelpful: yes, i agree but it's nice when you can have code that's unified, clear *and* fast :)
18:21:01n1s... which is the case here
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18:35:14JdGordonso release is going to be pushed another 2 weeks?
18:35:23n1ssounds so
18:35:35n1sfrom reading the logs
18:36:37gevaertsI don't think anyone has objected seriously yet, but I'd wait until after Bagder's promised mail to be sure
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19:25:06kugelFlynDice: doing the test_disk speed test without boosting isn't very useful on samsa since filetransfers do boosting
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19:25:24w1ll14mi have a ipod 5g, i changed a line in sound.c to make rockbox change lineout volume like it does on headphones. volume changes but lineout is a lot softer than headphones. In the past this worked fine on a diffrent ipod 5g. Could this be hardware related ?
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19:25:51kugeli.e. what you get is the boosted data rate reduced by cpu_boost() overhead
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19:33:59FlynDicekugel: I'm not really following you with the test_disk speed thing. Are you saying that the relative results are somehow not representative?
19:35:38kugelwell, I found in my tests that the numbers are lower for unboosted tests are lower than for boosted ones, even though our sd driver requires boosting during sd access
19:38:22FlynDicekugel: You probably understand the way the test works way better than I do, I wasn't looking for absolute values as much as a relative value between different setups.
19:38:23kugelso you actually measure the cpu_boost() overhead, and not the real data rate at 62MHz
19:39:41kugeland the number of boosts increases with the number of atomic transfers, so if the data rate is slower in reality it will show even slower due to the overhead
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19:41:02Casainhohello :-)
19:41:06kugelso, they're simply off, but taking it for relative measurements probably still works good enough
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19:42:07Casainhodomonoky: ping
19:42:39Casainhodomonoky: so, how are you going with Mini2440?
19:42:56FlynDicekugel: ah, well good, you were starting to make me think too hard again and my doctor says I've used up my thinking allotment for this month..... ;-)
19:43:19domonokyCasainho: nothing new
19:43:28Casainhodomonoky: do you know? I got my first print in plastic today... now, I am looking for help in design of a plastic enclose in 3D, like using Blender for it...
19:44:19Casainhodomonoky: I was thinking that Mini2440 port should be listed on this wiki page:
19:44:29kugelFlynDice: I still think those tests should be done after forcing boosted
19:44:53domonokyCasainho: feel free to edit the wiki :-)
19:45:24Casainhodomonoky: ok ;-)
19:46:21FlynDicekugel: I'll see what I can do... That shouldn't require too much heavy lifting
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20:24:55linuxstbCasainho: On the TargetStatus page, the second and third columns should be "N/A" (not applicable), not "yes" for the mini2440 in that table.
20:25:55Casainholinuxstb: ok, thanks. I was looking for a "preview" button before svae the page :-(
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20:33:29kugelANSI functions?
20:34:03Casainholinuxstb: done ;-)
20:34:28kugelbluebrother: ^
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20:37:17linuxstbkugel: "FormatMessageA" compared to "FormatMessage"
20:37:39kugelwhat ansi standard is that?
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20:37:58linuxstbI assume it's talking about character encodings
20:38:22kugelgoogle (and the source file) rather suggests it's win32 api
20:38:48domonokykugel: its still ANSI encoding
20:39:05domonokyregardless of api :-)
20:39:26linuxstbkugel: Yes, the winapi has ANSI and Unicode versions of functions.
20:40:54kugelah, so the result is ansi, and not the function itself?
20:41:48kugelanyway, thanks for clarification
20:41:49JdGordon|IIRC you should use the function without the W or A suffix and it gets defined to the correct one at build time
20:41:56domonokykugel: jup
20:42:37domonokyJdGordon|: but then you dont know what you get, if you interface it with another program :-)
20:43:58bluebrotherit is w32api, but w32api provides functions for ANSI and wide characters. That's the suffix A or W
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20:45:22bluebrotherbut this has also other effects −− you need to replace printf by wprintf, char by wchar_t and so on. w32 provides the tchar macro hell for that
20:45:26JdGordon|anyone else getting "This webpage isnt avilable" on the forums?
20:45:46*bluebrother can access the forums
20:46:07*linuxstb too
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20:52:52PaulJamhmm, i'm getting a "*PANIC* Stack underflow... viewportmanager" everytime when leaving USB mode has anyone else seen this?
20:54:21gevaertsPaulJam: recent revision?
20:54:31kugelgevaerts: yes
20:55:27PaulJamgevaerts: just downloaded it a few minutes ago...
20:56:26kugelthe problem is that viewportmanager_theme_enable() is called conditionally, but viewportmanager_theme_undo() unconditionally
20:56:52kugelthe if () means that fullscreen i wanted if the logo doesn't fit into the parent viewport
20:57:29kugelso if it fits, viewportmanager_theme_enable() isn't called (and nothing is put on the stack). in the _undo() call removes something from the stack
20:57:51kugelin usb_screen.c that is
20:58:45kugelJdGordon|: ^^
20:59:00JdGordon|PaulJam: put in on FS... I'll fix it tonight
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20:59:52JdGordon|and assign it to me if you can be bothered... although unlikely anyone else will want to touch it anyway
21:00:05JdGordon|should be a simple fix if what kugel says is happening (which makes sense)
21:02:39PaulJami don't think i can assign tasks
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21:04:52gevaertsdoesn't look too hard
21:05:40JdGordon|I want to go in and redo most of how that screen is drawn, and get the inbuilt bar working for early usb again
21:07:00gevaertsI'll post a test patch to FS in a few minutes
21:08:46pixelmaJdGordon|: "again"?
21:09:11JdGordon|ok, I wont if you dont want it...
21:09:55pixelmasure I do but wasn't aware it is broken (with the current changes?)
21:10:09pixelmaI didn't try so far
21:10:22JdGordon|hasnt it been broken for some time?
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21:10:35kugelwhich you also caused :)
21:10:55*JdGordon| makes no appologies
21:11:26pixelmaI'm currently not sure which kind of brokenness you are talking about currentl
21:11:40pixelmaerr.. exactly
21:12:03JdGordon|parse error :p
21:13:08pixelmain what way would that be visible to the user - no updates or no early USB at all or?
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21:16:10gevaertsPaulJam, kugel: I uploaded a patch that should fix this is kugel is right
21:17:04kugelif? my unquestionable wisdom leaves to possiblity for being wrong!
21:17:09JdGordon|pixelma: I was never under the impression that early usb was broken, just the dispaly of the statusbar
21:17:11*gevaerts isn't sure if his patch is the right way to do this from a clean design point of view, but it should work
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21:17:31gevaertskugel: sorry. This patch fixes the issue
21:17:36JdGordon|gevaerts: if it works do it... I'll try to do a proper fix tonight, but dunno if I'll have time
21:17:40*gevaerts hasn't tested :)
21:17:42kugelgevaerts: it's ok :)
21:17:56gevaertsFS #10841
21:18:23kugeloh, I was looking at patches only
21:18:38pixelmaJdGordon|: as in "it doesn't display at all" or it doesn't show disk activity?
21:18:58JdGordon|they are the same arn't they?
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21:19:14gevaertskugel: well, it started as a plain normal bug report :)
21:19:32pixelmaJdGordon|: to me that's not the same
21:19:54pixelmaalthough if the former happens the latter will happen too
21:19:59kugelgevaerts: stop showing that I made a mistake!
21:21:10*kugel agrees with gevaerts
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21:22:02JdGordon|pixelma: OK, I was under the impression that the the bar didnt display at all... and probably didnt update... it could actually be working now, but I didnt test it
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21:34:08CIA-6New commit by gevaerts (r23914): Fix FS #10841. Thanks to Thomas Martitz for spotting what was wrong.
21:35:30gevaertsPaulJam: bug is gone now
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21:36:06*JdGordon| wishes you didnt close the bug though
21:36:16*gevaerts will reopen
21:36:26JdGordon|ah leave it
21:36:52gevaertstoo late :)
21:37:32gevaertsand assigned to you
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21:39:14JdGordon|can we do anything about the really old bugs in FS? and patches?
21:39:35JdGordon|we are sitting around 300 open bugs... which sucks
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21:42:17kugelI think we decided to make a cleanup week after 3.3 but we didn't get around it yet
21:42:24kugel(at the devcon)
21:47:50froggymanis current SVN safe to use right now?
21:48:18gevaertsask in #svn :)
21:48:20*gevaerts hides
21:48:50gevaertsotherwise it should really always be safe
21:49:02froggymanis current rockbox SVN safe to use right now?
21:49:39froggymangevaerts: as in I wont run into a ton of problems?
21:49:49gevaertsyou shouldn't
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22:16:10marek_hello i wanted to update my tohiba gigabeat i wanted to use installer, so i downloaded linux 64bit version i untar it and i have one file, is it a binary?
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22:18:18webguest56Hello, I have registered for Flyspray but forgotten to choose a notification method (defaults to none). Now I don't receive the code and I can not register again under the same name to correct it. Any idee how to proceed? Gerhard
22:18:27marek_i got this error all the time "Network error: Request aborted. Please check your network and proxy settings."...
22:18:37marek_any ideas why?
22:20:14webguest56Should I register under a different name now or is there any possibility to get registered under the allready choosen one?
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22:20:59B4gderwebguest56: Gerhard is the name you used?
22:21:10webguest56no, Gerbil
22:22:31B4gderI see no such user regged
22:22:47B4gderso try to do it again
22:23:53webguest56But when I try to register again as Gerbil I get the message " That username is already taken. You will need to choose another one."
22:25:30webguest56How long does it take normally after registering to get the mail, I'm waiting about 2 hours.
22:26:13B4gderI don't know
22:26:22B4gderit should be much faster than so
22:28:15webguest56Do you know, if you get the code after registering even if you forgot to choose an notification method thus "none" is choosen automatically?
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22:39:51n1sheh, tremor contains 5 integer log functions :) (3 of one kind and 2 of another kind) likely not performance critical in any way but still weird to not reuse a central implementation...
22:45:46n1snah called ~180 times a second or so only
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22:52:42n1shmm, over 300 with a 500kbps file, if the values are large this could easily be a few thousand loop iterations per second or so...
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22:56:41n1sin fact, over 6000 calls are made *before* it starts decoding, or is the sim playing a trick on me?
22:57:44n1sso around 200 calls/sec while playing a 500kbps file and 6k before starting...
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23:03:56n1svalues seem small
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23:06:26n1shaha, and the ilog calls while playing can *easily* be optimized away entirely...
23:07:08n1si think at least :)
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23:09:08n1syeah, store the log vale instead and use a 4 value LUT
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23:41:40stripwax_My ipod has started acting up in a way I haven't seen before, and it seems totally reproducible. If I turn on rockbox, the disk thrashes and thrashes (indefinitely, as far as I can tell), CPU is boosted (although every few minutes or so drops briefly to unboosted and then boosts back up again). That's without playing any audio and without dircache enabled. However I do have database enabled, and suspect corrupted database fil
23:41:40stripwax_es. Could that be possible? While thrashing, audio buffering from disk is really slow. While thrashing, if dircache enabled, building dircache takes forever.
23:42:51JdGordon|yes its possible the db is corrupt
23:43:37stripwax_Would/could corrupt db cause that? (leading question .. would it be possible for rockbox to detect that the db is corrupt and not thrash?)
23:44:10stripwax_Parallel question - any way to determine definitely if it is corrupt db and/or figure out which thread is doing all that disk activity?
23:44:49stripwax_Fwiw, browsing through Database menu items seems to work ok itself
23:45:59JdGordon|rename your .tcd file and see if its the db being problematic?
23:46:25stripwax_good idea!
23:47:49stripwax_all of them, or just database_idx.tcd?
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23:48:01JdGordon|just that one I think
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23:50:44stripwax_JdGordin| - thanks, that seems to have fixed it. I'll try renaming back and reconfirm. Also I saw boost counter as high as 4 sometimes - sounds odd - will see if that is also reproducible
23:53:19JdGordon|have you got auto-update enabled on the db maybe?
23:53:31JdGordon|and recently do lots of file pdating?
23:54:51stripwax_I might have auto-update enabled; but not lots of file updating recently (other than updating rockbox builds every so often etc). But I did have some unexpected resets and on reboot rockbox seemed to want to rebuild database; so may have ended up creating corrupted db
23:55:42stripwax_Yep, auto-update is on
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23:58:52JdGordon|sounds plausable
23:58:53stripwax_Oh I remember the other thing - while disk thrashing, if I play audio (and everything very slow, laggy UI etc), and then stop/shutdown rockbox, I get the 'couldn't open playlist control file' splash just before shutting down.
23:58:59stripwax_(can't remember exact wording)

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