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| 00:24:40 | moos | are those .rsbs files related to remote status bar? |
| 00:25:28 | moos | @JdGordon |
| 00:26:20 | pixelma | they are, it's just not the "status bar" |
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| 00:26:31 | JdGordon| | rsbs is the main skin for the remote |
| 00:27:07 | moos | then I supose that targets that are not concerned don't need them? |
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| 00:28:16 | moos | @JdGordon (to highlight you) :) |
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| 00:28:59 | JdGordon| | yes, but I got lazy with the buildzip scrip so just added them always |
| 00:29:48 | moos | is this a make job? |
| 00:30:07 | moos | if that's an easy job I could try... |
| 00:31:10 | JdGordon| | be my guest |
| 00:31:12 | moos | JdGordon: is that a makefile thing? |
| 00:31:18 | JdGordon| | no, worse.... |
| 00:31:20 | JdGordon| | perl! |
| 00:31:29 | JdGordon| | tools/buildzip.pl |
| 00:31:31 | moos | du hh |
| 00:31:42 | * | moos blames perl then :) |
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| 00:32:47 | moos | JdGordon: I noticed that the sbs handling seems to take time at boot (comparing to before this era) |
| 00:33:19 | JdGordon| | this is the 3rd report of that, but I call shinanigans or placebo |
| 00:33:54 | JdGordon| | unless the hardware setting setup code takes way too long to run, because the disk is not accessed any more than it used to be |
| 00:34:01 | moos | I even tried to disabled .sbs, and noticed that the status bar was printed at boot anyway |
| 00:34:20 | JdGordon| | hats a different story |
| 00:34:25 | JdGordon| | that's* |
| 00:34:55 | moos | maybe related? something fishy at start to handle status bar |
| 00:34:57 | JdGordon| | did you set statusbar to off? |
| 00:35:01 | moos | yup |
| 00:35:21 | moos | an it was here at boot anyway until the root menu |
| 00:35:40 | JdGordon| | gets displayed over the splash? |
| 00:36:00 | moos | to compare the boot difference, that's easy. Dircache time at boot, vs after usb |
| 00:36:10 | moos | 3s lost here |
| 00:36:21 | moos | yup exactly |
| 00:36:42 | JdGordon| | ok, I just reprod that, the statusbar default must be "top" so that makes sense |
| 00:37:20 | moos | maybe just an initialisation somwhere at boot (noob user guess here) |
| 00:37:33 | moos | +problem of course :) |
| 00:37:36 | JdGordon| | thats not a valid comparisson. I posted a patch somewhere to time the setting loading on boot which should be done to convince me there is an issue |
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| 00:38:21 | moos | mheh :) |
| 00:38:49 | JdGordon| | I'm also not too worried because I plan on splitting the theme settings completly out of the usual setting apply-ing code |
| 00:39:00 | JdGordon| | which should also fix the boot splash |
| 00:39:08 | JdGordon| | also, FS #10922 might fix that |
| 00:39:15 | * | moos is surprised that noone here noticed/reported this |
| 00:39:48 | JdGordon| | everyone has statusbar set to top anyway |
| 00:39:55 | pixelma | why the splitting out? |
| 00:40:11 | * | moos tought to boot time here of course |
| 00:41:14 | moos | JdGordon: don't have time right now to test more (wakes up for works in 5hours, and I'm not at bed yet:\= |
| 00:41:36 | JdGordon| | pixelma: maybe not a full split out, but being able to just apply the theme settings without every other setting would be useful |
| 00:42:00 | moos | JdGordon: I'll let you know If I find something or even better to report you that you fixed the issues when you'll done with the commits |
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| 00:42:33 | moos | JdGordon: might be a good idea indeed ... |
| 00:42:52 | JdGordon| | yeah, ok, if there really is an issue I'll fix it :p |
| 00:42:57 | JdGordon| | but I dont tihnk there is :D |
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| 00:43:43 | moos | hehe, /me feels offended now, Jd don't want to trust him :) |
| 00:44:02 | moos | I tried various seetings situations...no luck |
| 00:44:48 | JdGordon| | check the tick difference between the two settings_apply() calls in main() |
| 00:45:04 | JdGordon| | then see if anything changed from when the 2nd was added |
| 00:45:49 | moos | ohoh,ok, I will maybe try this, this week end |
| 00:46:29 | moos | but I hope that you will commits your changes before, and that will speed up the things again, like years before ;) |
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| 00:47:55 | moos | JdGordon: for the .rsbs files, maybe asking a pearl guru could help us |
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| 00:48:09 | moos | like rasher or Zagor |
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| 00:49:08 | moos | that's not a bug, but anyway plenty of files built for nothing |
| 00:50:50 | JdGordon| | not built, just copied |
| 00:50:55 | JdGordon| | its not a big deal |
| 00:51:21 | moos | and maybe a one line fix |
| 00:51:50 | * | moos likes when things are clean |
| 00:51:51 | moos | :) |
| 00:52:58 | moos | JdGordon: is there already a sbs gallery? |
| 00:53:11 | JdGordon| | themes.rockbox.org |
| 00:53:21 | JdGordon| | a .sbs is a renamed .wps |
| 00:53:29 | JdGordon| | well, almost |
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| 00:53:54 | moos | oh, same syntax you mean? |
| 00:54:16 | * | moos didn't look at this feature yet |
| 00:54:35 | JdGordon| | the only difference is you have to use viewports in the sbs |
| 00:54:47 | JdGordon| | and it needs a special viewport to say where the lists go |
| 00:54:53 | JdGordon| | otherwise its identical to wps |
| 00:55:02 | moos | ok, nice to know, merci |
| 00:55:51 | moos | I did remenber you thought a while ago to have possibly a mini album art in. Is it already the case? |
| 00:56:22 | * | moos tried to follow the svn activity those past 4months, but too hard, too much developement :) |
| 00:57:14 | JdGordon| | yeah, one of the themes on the e200s have a smaller AA in the sbs |
| 00:57:39 | moos | sweety ! the feature is already in then :) |
| 00:57:42 | JdGordon| | http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=370&target=sansae200 |
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| 00:57:48 | moos | thx |
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| 00:58:20 | moos | heh, cool ! |
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| 00:58:45 | moos | is this voicebot still needed? no spam attack around those days |
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| 00:59:54 | pixelma | I just suffered from attacks this morning (well yesterday to be accurate) |
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| 01:00:43 | moos | pixelma: aie :(. Where? |
| 01:01:59 | pixelma | they flood with CTCP version requests and when my IRC client tried to answer them all, I got booted by freenode. I have CTCP version on ignore now... by the time #videolan wasn't +R and I was joined |
| 01:03:46 | moos | there will be a freenode upgrade/migration soon, right? |
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| 01:03:58 | JdGordon| | saturday |
| 01:04:22 | moos | oki |
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| 01:25:41 | UnhelpfulWeb | leaving my phone at home == teh suck :/ |
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| 01:37:51 | flyback | you know what would be slick |
| 01:37:55 | flyback | rockbox hddiag |
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| 01:38:25 | flyback | even just a port of badblocks |
| 01:38:35 | flyback | or a smart reading util |
| 01:38:43 | flyback | so you could at least tell when the hd is starting to fail |
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| 01:46:10 | krazykit` | flyback, i believe that's a NODO |
| 01:46:18 | flyback | n0d0? |
| 01:47:03 | krazykit` | check out question 10 in docs/NODO |
| 01:47:17 | * | flyback wonders if this is a smart ass remakr or serious :P |
| 01:47:38 | flyback | yep |
| 01:47:42 | flyback | smart ass remark |
| 01:48:03 | krazykit` | flyback, http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/docs/NODO |
| 01:48:05 | flyback | and host pc can't read the smart info etc |
| 01:48:13 | flyback | because it can't directely acces the disk |
| 01:48:15 | flyback | so that page is a FAIL |
| 01:49:09 | flyback | they should at least add a smart table reader |
| 01:49:51 | pixelma | because some nice guy in IRC wants it? |
| 01:49:55 | flyback | I can understand the scandisk thing |
| 01:50:09 | flyback | no because it lets you have a rough idea what shape your mechanical hd is in |
| 01:50:11 | flyback | sheesh |
| 01:50:35 | flyback | it's just a freaking table |
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| 01:50:42 | flyback | don't even format it just dump to a text file |
| 01:50:46 | flyback | I can read on a host pc |
| 01:50:57 | flyback | just a ata command and ascii dump |
| 01:51:43 | flyback | don't even display it in rockbox |
| 01:51:51 | flyback | just dump the table to a text file |
| 01:52:23 | flyback | plenty of programs out there that will read raw smart log data |
| 01:52:41 | flyback | I don't mind doing all that from a pc I just can't directely talk to the disk to run the command |
| 01:52:50 | flyback | again this is just an idea :P |
| 01:52:52 | flyback | not a demand |
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| 01:53:51 | flyback | it's basically the equivalent of cat /proc/smart_table > smartinfo.txt |
| 01:53:52 | flyback | basically |
| 01:55:29 | flyback | no text formatting, no parsing, just a raw dump to a small text file on the rockbox filesystem and I can then copy that file to a pc to process |
| 01:55:33 | flyback | to check disk health once in a while |
| 01:56:59 | flyback | mabye eventually if I get my #1 health issue resolved I can eventually write the code for this :P |
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| 02:01:45 | tmzt | aren't there extensions to usb storage to support this? |
| 02:02:19 | flyback | some usb to ata controllers did support a pass thru command |
| 02:02:29 | flyback | but here you are talking about a soc |
| 02:02:32 | flyback | so there's that whole layer |
| 02:02:46 | flyback | insteresting idea though..............hmmmm :D |
| 02:03:25 | flyback | brb I am in some serious pain :/ |
| 02:03:36 | tmzt | well it's not a soc, it's software, unless you're talking about iPod |
| 02:04:05 | tmzt | most of the soft codec devices that support usb do so from software drivers in the rockbox kernel |
| 02:04:39 | tmzt | what device has a non solidstate disk anyway that also has soft usb? |
| 02:07:21 | flyback | well portaplayer is a socx |
| 02:07:25 | flyback | system on a chip |
| 02:07:46 | flyback | iriver h10 |
| 02:08:19 | flyback | 5 gig (well will be 4gb now) |
| 02:12:00 | UnhelpfulWeb | what actually uses a hardware usb<->ata bridge? archos? |
| 02:12:53 | rasher | UnhelpfulWeb: h100 and h300 also |
| 02:13:15 | saratoga | Gigabeat F too i think |
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| 02:15:31 | UnhelpfulWeb | that still leaves quite a few HD targets which could provide direct SMART support over USB... or if the right bits of the ATA driver were exposed, a plugin could provide SMART readings? |
| 02:15:55 | Strife89|Desktop | Dammit, what gives? |
| 02:16:16 | saratoga | assuming the controller supports it i guess |
| 02:16:58 | flyback | like I said |
| 02:17:01 | flyback | raw dump is fine |
| 02:17:06 | flyback | I *CAN* process it from there |
| 02:17:06 | saratoga | well get to work on it |
| 02:17:12 | flyback | plenty of apps, scripts etc :P |
| 02:17:27 | flyback | I just can't execute that command outside of rockbox :P |
| 02:17:30 | flyback | uh |
| 02:17:37 | * | flyback pumps up to dangerous levels of painkillers |
| 02:17:38 | flyback | ugh |
| 02:17:41 | flyback | brb |
| 02:22:44 | S_a_i_n_t_ | what's wrong flyback...? "dangerous levels of painkillers" definitely doesn't sound too good.... |
| 02:23:11 | flyback | dunno it's been going on for 3+ yrs |
| 02:23:25 | S_a_i_n_t_ | where is the pain? |
| 02:23:27 | flyback | alternates between pain and feeling like something hanging out of my backside |
| 02:23:47 | flyback | not self inflicted :P |
| 02:24:38 | flyback | they thought it was something in my rectum, did a scope, found nothing I was so bummed out I kinda just gave up |
| 02:24:49 | flyback | but recentely found a lump that is between front side and backside |
| 02:24:55 | flyback | going back to the doc on the 18th |
| 02:24:58 | flyback | find out |
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| 02:26:22 | flyback | basically 10+ yrs of IBS has rotted out the system I guess |
| 02:27:12 | krazykit` | all of which was offtopic and should be in -community |
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| 02:28:47 | JdGordon | anyone still awake that has ported rockbox to a new target? |
| 02:28:54 | flyback | ok sorry :P |
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| 02:39:04 | flyback | you guys might have to implement other filesystems other than fat32 |
| 02:39:09 | flyback | thx to gestaposoft :p |
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| 03:51:33 | Strife89 | Did anyone communicate with PromisedPlanet about him donating a Connect? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=22628.msg159962#msg159962 |
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| 04:16:09 | tmzt | Strife89: they still at walmart somewhere? |
| 04:16:32 | tmzt | never bought one because I didn't sense hope and didn't have the money then |
| 04:17:25 | Strife89 | tmzt: I haven't seen any. |
| 04:17:26 | tmzt | thinking about writing a networking stack for emulator on linux using tun device if a suitable open one can not be found |
| 04:17:56 | tmzt | I have all these networking classes that treat networking like magic |
| 04:18:06 | tmzt | and I want to learn what an skb really is |
| 04:18:29 | tmzt | simulator I mean |
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| 06:28:12 | JdGordon | :) 4 extra lines of code saves 96KB of skin buffer |
| 06:28:37 | JdGordon | assuming of course the wps doesnt specify a backdrop and a .sbs isnt loaded |
| 06:32:56 | FlynDice | add 8 lines & double your fun then ;-) |
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| 06:56:12 | andrewRB | hey, is there any way to access the rockbox svn with webDAV? |
| 06:58:37 | andrewRB | to put my question in context; I'm writing a PHP script to checkout the latest rockbox svn revision, apply user-specified/uploaded patches, build and spit out a zip download link, but obviously the first hurdle is interfacing with SVN from PHP |
| 06:59:33 | andrewRB | I've found a class which allows for a few basic operations with an SVN repository set up as, for example, this one; http://php-ajax.googlecode.com/svn/ |
| 06:59:56 | andrewRB | but since rockbox uses viewVC instead, I'm just wondering if there is any way which I'm missing |
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| 07:04:09 | JdGordon | system("svn up"); works fine |
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| 07:04:53 | andrewRB | svn isn't and can't be installed - shared hosting =/ |
| 07:05:22 | andrewRB | hence I'm interested in a horribly inefficient pure PHP option |
| 07:08:46 | JdGordon | sounds like you're building what I did ages ago |
| 07:08:53 | JdGordon | I dont have the code for it anymore though |
| 07:10:28 | andrewRB | oh, really? what was it? but yeah, I'm doing it primarily for friends with Cowon D2s who almost all use a patch I wrote, so it can be automatically patched/built etc for them, but finding/writing a pure PHP SVN client is looking a little daunting |
| 07:12:19 | JdGordon | it was choose your target, upload or choose some patches to apply, get an email back with the build url when its finished |
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| 07:15:29 | andrewRB | ah, yeah sounds just like what I'm hoping to create. why did you take it down? |
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| 07:17:25 | JdGordon | i got bored with it, and decided people should stop being lazy :p |
| 07:18:16 | UnhelpfulWeb | submit your patch for inclusion maybe? :) |
| 07:18:48 | andrewRB | haha, nice. i think i just decided I'm too lazy to bother doing this at all unless/until I have money for a dedicated server so I can turn <expletive> safe mode off ;) |
| 07:19:30 | andrewRB | UnhelpfulWeb: already have, it was met with some heated discussion and a resounding no, despite many D2 users chipping in and begging =P |
| 07:20:35 | UnhelpfulWeb | ahh... what does this patch do, exactly? ;) |
| 07:21:44 | andrewRB | adds to the keymap so the three tactile buttons can be used to control playback/volume when the hold slider is in place |
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| 07:24:01 | UnhelpfulWeb | i can see how "hold doesn't affect some buttons" might be controversial, especially without a setting. |
| 07:24:12 | JdGordon | cool, rombox still fits after my skin changes which are just about ready |
| 07:25:03 | andrewRB | a setting was added, but apparently that made it fall under the "configurable keymaps" category which is also a resounding no ;) it's no big deal, I'm just trying to make it more convenient for the many D2 users |
| 07:28:19 | pixelma | is it possible to detect if a button is held while you flip the hold switch? |
| 07:31:39 | andrewRB | it should be, my hardware knowledge is very limited but the value in the adc should be different |
| 07:32:02 | pixelma | thought this could be a good compromise. You would have a "special keymap mode" - no setting and people who know about it can use it while usual hold is still available |
| 07:32:26 | UnhelpfulWeb | pixelma: if the hold switch is a "regular" button i would think so - pre-condition BUTTON_X, post BUTTON_X|BUTTON_HOLD ? |
| 07:32:49 | pixelma | enter the special mode by holding button X while sliding hold |
| 07:33:17 | UnhelpfulWeb | clear it whenever exiting hold, and in special mode volume control works in hold? |
| 07:33:41 | andrewRB | that is the best constructive suggestion I've heard regarding this, thanks pixelma. I'll look into it sometime |
| 07:34:33 | pixelma | UnhelpfulWeb: yes, as far as I know that part already works this way |
| 07:34:49 | * | UnhelpfulWeb doesn't really think of settable "some keys function during hold" as being "configurable keymaps" |
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| 07:37:37 | * | pixelma points tomers to http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10935 in case he reads logs and didn't see it in the tracker |
| 07:38:42 | amiconn | UnhelpfulWeb: Quite a number of targets use a hw ata<->usb bridge: Archos Player, recorder v1/v2/fm, Iriver H1x0, H300, iAudio X5, M5, M3, Gigabeat F/X at least |
| 07:39:09 | pixelma | "Player Type" should actually be "every non-colour screen player" but that wasn't available |
| 07:39:13 | amiconn | I.e. all HDD-based SH1 targets, all coldfire targets, plus some more |
| 07:39:49 | UnhelpfulWeb | amiconn: still, supporting usb SMART access on soft usb targets might not be completely crazy |
| 07:40:17 | pixelma | neither was "Iaudio M5/M3" (something for B4gder or Zagor though) |
| 07:40:31 | amiconn | Imo the idea to read SMART data in rockbox makes sense (unlike scandisk) |
| 07:41:28 | amiconn | At least it could be dumped to file from the debug menu |
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| 07:45:32 | UnhelpfulWeb | pixelma: hold seems generally to be considered special and not a "normal" button that is mappable. this might be easier to mess with on soft-hold targets, but targets with a hardware hold switch seem to just define a button_hold() which is called before doing anything that would care if hold is on. |
| 07:45:54 | JdGordon | pixelma: that could work on every target with a software hold switch actually.... if a (special or any) key is pressed while hold is being enabled it can change modes |
| 07:46:10 | JdGordon | it will need a bit of work in the button drivers though because they respect the hold button |
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| 07:57:03 | amiconn | JdGordon: I wouldn't consider this fix messy. Wasn't there an event you could send that causes the ui to redraw? |
| 07:57:35 | JdGordon | I'm not sure if it forces the lists to redraw immediatly, only the sbs |
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| 08:23:16 | amiconn | UnhelpfulWeb: Here are my ape test results with svn (-c1000/2000/3000/4000): |
| 08:23:25 | amiconn | iPod G2 (PP5002): 163.1%/105.7%/63.4%/22.0% |
| 08:23:35 | amiconn | H10 (PP5020): 152.7%/96.7%/58.0%/20.0% |
| 08:23:40 | amiconn | Mini G2 (PP5022): 169.1%/108.0%/64.2%/22.1% |
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| 08:32:39 | andrewRB | is there anywhere i can find mktccboot binaries, by any chance? |
| 08:38:23 | JdGordon | does anyone have a theme which had the side effects mentioned in http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev;revision=24335 ? |
| 08:40:14 | UnhelpfulWeb | amiconn: seems like pp5002 is pretty close for c2000, it and 5022 might just get there with a few more table entries. why does 5020 perform so poorly in comparison? it's only as fast *now* as its relatives *used to be* :/ |
| 08:42:40 | amiconn | Nobody knows... |
| 08:43:04 | amiconn | PP5020 is ~5% slower than its relatives in general, not just with ape |
| 08:43:31 | amiconn | Hmm, your patch is a bit faster for -c1000 and -c2000, but for -c3000 it hangs |
| 08:47:38 | UnhelpfulWeb | *hangs*? weird, i don't think that happened for me :) |
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| 08:49:31 | amiconn | Open with->test_codec->speed test .... hangs at 'loading' |
| 08:49:48 | amiconn | Both on iPod G2 and Mini G2 - didn't try on H10 |
| 08:52:16 | CIA-5 | New commit by jdgordon (r24366): skin rework (FS #10922) notable changes: ... |
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| 08:53:55 | linuxstb | andrewRB: I don't think so, no. Doesn't rbutil incorporate that function? |
| 08:55:25 | andrewRB | sure, I guess I was hoping for some - presumably unofficial - pre-built binaries for a few platforms, not that that would be very likely to exist but it was worth an ask :) |
| 08:57:05 | linuxstb | andrewRB: I'm guessing you want a Windows binary? |
| 08:58:08 | andrewRB | no, i already built one of those. I'm trying to run the command from a linux webserver, and can't figure out why it isn't producing any output |
| 08:58:21 | andrewRB | I copied mktccboot from my local linux rockbox build |
| 08:59:38 | andrewRB | http://andrewbeveridge.co.uk/RB/command.php?c=mktccboot |
| 08:59:44 | andrewRB | http://andrewbeveridge.co.uk/RB/command.php?c=ls |
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| 09:00:02 | andrewRB | permissions are 777 |
| 09:00:32 | linuxstb | andrewRB: This isn't really on-topic for #rockbox, but come to #rockbox-community.... |
| 09:00:39 | andrewRB | good point. thanks. |
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| 09:06:26 | JdGordon | Would a full listing of what a theme consists of make sense in ThemeGuidlines? or somewhere else? |
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| 09:09:17 | JdGordon | arg |
| 09:09:26 | JdGordon | who thought it was a good idea to build checkwps every commit :p |
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| 09:13:11 | UnhelpfulWeb | amiconn: i'll try to repro on e200... unfortunately getting you a new patch if i fix it can't be done too readily |
| 09:13:42 | CIA-5 | New commit by jdgordon (r24367): fix reds |
| 09:14:25 | pixelma | I wonder how the colour WPSs that use viewports with " - " work on the greyscale targets. They are available too (see e.g. H100 themes) and won't be rejected by the parser. Last time I tried " - " for grey shades though the result was all white (as it is not a foreground/background "colour" setting) |
| 09:15:09 | JdGordon | where do those deltas come from? I increased the skin buffer but not nearly that much, and the delta magic sholdnt see that anyway |
| 09:16:13 | JdGordon | oh, riiiight.... thats not buffer_alloced() yet |
| 09:19:19 | JdGordon | pixelma: LCD_DEFAULT_FG and LCD_DEFAULT_BG, whatever they are defined to |
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| 09:24:55 | UnhelpfulWeb | amiconn: i see the trouble, filterbuf64 needs to be 64*3 rather than 32*3... clearly i must not have tested the high sample, or i would've had a crash or hang as well |
| 09:25:26 | CIA-5 | New commit by jdgordon (r24368): fix the last of the red... note to self, fix backdrop.h! |
| 09:26:17 | CIA-5 | New commit by jdgordon (r24369): bugger, too tired, didnt mean to commit this. |
| 09:30:30 | JdGordon | what do people think about this idea? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=23619.msg161016#msg161016 |
| 09:30:45 | JdGordon | should be pretty easy to code up if its not hated |
| 09:39:10 | CIA-5 | New commit by jdgordon (r24370): really the last of the red this time |
| 09:39:59 | UnhelpfulWeb | you'll also need to adjust recip_max... i get recip_max of 3856, 8384, and 16384 for pp5002, pp5020, and pp5022/24 respectively |
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| 09:56:50 | UnhelpfulWeb | i must have initially changed the filter buffers unconditionally, adjusted table size, then made the filter buffers conditional, but screwed it up... |
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| 10:44:32 | pixelma | JdGordon: are those defined on greyscale targets. and even if - what are they set to? |
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| 12:48:13 | andrewRB | could anybody assist me or point me to good documentation for setting up a windows cross-compiler please? I want the rockbox tool scramble as a win32 binary |
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| 13:08:11 | diz_Child | how to extractor the firmware from a .exe? |
| 13:13:16 | diz_Child | is RESHACKER could be a help? |
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| 13:25:44 | AlexP | diz_Child: What firmware from what .exe? |
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| 13:38:29 | diz_Child | a mp3 firmware |
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| 13:39:44 | yzflcyq | Have anyone got Rockbox3.5RC for Onda VX747? |
| 13:39:59 | AlexP | The Onda VX747 isn't a release target |
| 13:40:03 | AlexP | AFAIK |
| 13:40:18 | yzflcyq | What a shame |
| 13:40:42 | andrewRB | it's pretty old anyway |
| 13:40:51 | AlexP | So are many of our other players |
| 13:40:56 | yzflcyq | Will it be added in the later version? |
| 13:41:09 | andrewRB | yeah, but they mostly weren't when porting started ;) |
| 13:41:09 | AlexP | Possibly, yes |
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| 13:41:52 | AlexP | yzflcyq: It depends on it meeting the criteria - I don't know what the VX747 is missing, but if someone does the necessary work, then it'll be included |
| 13:42:52 | yzflcyq | I'm using VX747.Rockbox on it is very unstable.Often crash. |
| 13:42:52 | AlexP | yzflcyq: The main problem with the Ondas is that there isn't really anyone working on them |
| 13:43:00 | AlexP | There you go then |
| 13:43:09 | AlexP | It isn't ready, and is thus not being released |
| 13:43:26 | AlexP | It is in the unusable catagory on the website |
| 13:43:47 | | Join funman [0] (n=fun@rockbox/developer/funman) |
| 13:44:06 | yzflcyq | I've connected some friends that are insterested in it. |
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| 13:44:22 | yzflcyq | How could we join you? |
| 13:44:24 | AlexP | yzflcyq: That's cool, we'd love it to get further |
| 13:44:40 | AlexP | yzflcyq: Have a look at the code, fix things, submit patches |
| 13:44:43 | Torne | find something to fix, submit a patch |
| 13:44:47 | AlexP | That's all it takes :) |
| 13:45:10 | yzflcyq | Got it. |
| 13:46:37 | yzflcyq | I noticed the "WMP11" theme for vx747/777 has been removed. |
| 13:46:46 | yzflcyq | Why? |
| 13:46:48 | AlexP | yep |
| 13:46:54 | AlexP | Copyrighted images |
| 13:46:56 | Torne | i would guess it uses screengrabbed bitmaps from WMP |
| 13:48:13 | yzflcyq | So could you give me the zip file?It cannot be downloaded. |
| 13:48:33 | AlexP | No |
| 13:48:42 | AlexP | It has been removed to stop people downloading it |
| 13:48:44 | Torne | no, it is illegal to distribute copyrighted images without permission |
| 13:48:58 | yzflcyq | I'm the creater of it,and I need to edit it. |
| 13:49:18 | andrewRB | if you genuinely created it surely you should have the files |
| 13:49:36 | Torne | also that means you are the one who violated the copyright ti start with, no? |
| 13:50:16 | yzflcyq | Another question,Why the "Blackglass" hasn't been removed? |
| 13:51:03 | AlexP | It has, hasn't it? |
| 13:51:14 | AlexP | If not it shall be removed now |
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| 13:52:29 | AlexP | ah, not for the onda |
| 13:52:38 | yzflcyq | ... |
| 13:52:42 | yzflcyq | Why not? |
| 13:53:32 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 13:53:43 | Torne | because someone overlooked it, probably |
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| 13:55:00 | yzflcyq | Torne:Nice guess. |
| 13:55:35 | AlexP | It has been now |
| 13:55:57 | yzflcyq | Well done. |
| 13:56:06 | AlexP | The others got reported, I doubt many people look at the Onda themes |
| 13:56:07 | yzflcyq | You did really hurt me. |
| 13:56:22 | AlexP | yzflcyq: We respect other people's copyright. |
| 13:56:35 | AlexP | If you wish to stay/be part of the community then so will you |
| 13:56:38 | yzflcyq | OK. |
| 13:58:08 | yzflcyq | I have found a file whose name with 'ppm'.What's it? |
| 13:58:42 | Torne | an image file, portable pixmap format |
| 13:59:01 | yzflcyq | Is it based on Linux? |
| 13:59:19 | AlexP | linux is the kernel for an operating system |
| 13:59:23 | AlexP | ppm is an image format |
| 13:59:35 | AlexP | One isn't based on the other |
| 13:59:58 | yzflcyq | Is it used oftenly under Linux |
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| 14:00:05 | AlexP | So is jpg |
| 14:00:15 | yzflcyq | Got it. |
| 14:00:16 | AlexP | er, sorry - misread |
| 14:00:23 | AlexP | But really, there is no relation |
| 14:00:40 | Torne | the "portable" means "designed to work on lots of systems" :) |
| 14:00:53 | yzflcyq | It's my fault.I asked in a incorrect manner. |
| 14:01:08 | yzflcyq | See. |
| 14:01:27 | AlexP | yzflcyq: Sorry, I didn't realise |
| 14:02:41 | yzflcyq | Looks like I speak very bad English |
| 14:02:54 | Torne | only averagely bad |
| 14:03:13 | Torne | many people do significantly worse, even if they speak it natively :) |
| 14:03:22 | AlexP | yzflcyq: No, it is good enough that I forgot I was speaking to a non-native speaker |
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| 14:03:44 | AlexP | yzflcyq: If it was that bad I would have been looking for other variations in words :) |
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| 14:03:58 | yzflcyq | Thanks. |
| 14:04:52 | yzflcyq | One of my friends will join the chat room at once. |
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| 14:06:15 | yzflcyq | He is in.His name is wind |
| 14:08:26 | yzflcyq | Just now I saw some themes. |
| 14:08:56 | yzflcyq | They also have some icons in Windows Media Player. |
| 14:09:04 | AlexP | Which ones? |
| 14:09:23 | yzflcyq | KratoJet |
| 14:09:29 | yzflcyq | http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?target=sansae200 |
| 14:10:02 | yzflcyq | That 'play' button. |
| 14:10:21 | AlexP | Is that directly from WMP, or is it just drawn to look like it? |
| 14:10:51 | yzflcyq | WinBox |
| 14:11:10 | yzflcyq | And this.One of them is directly from WMp. |
| 14:13:14 | wind | I can't open any text file which is more than 1M. Why? |
| 14:13:14 | AlexP | S_a_i_n_t: Where do the WMP icons come from on your WinBox theme? |
| 14:13:19 | yzflcyq | Autobot Glass v1.4 |
| 14:13:30 | AlexP | wind: I assume because there is a bug |
| 14:13:36 | yzflcyq | My theme is based on it. |
| 14:13:50 | AlexP | yzflcyq: Please report these using the report themes button |
| 14:14:31 | yzflcyq | Sorry,I didn't catch you. |
| 14:14:39 | wind | How to repair it. |
| 14:15:51 | AlexP | wind: I don't know, you'll need to have a look at the code |
| 14:16:04 | Torne | someone was discussing this the other day... can't see a bug in FS for it though |
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| 14:16:19 | AlexP | yzflcyq: If you click on the title of a theme (not the picture) you will be able to report a theme |
| 14:16:25 | AlexP | Torne: I'm sure I've seen one |
| 14:16:27 | andrewRB | hmm, I can open text files > 1MB fine, which target? |
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| 14:16:40 | * | andrewRB is probably misunderstanding |
| 14:16:45 | Torne | andrewRB: i think the consensus before was it depends on target and possibly encoding? |
| 14:16:52 | AlexP | Torne: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10924 |
| 14:17:02 | Torne | aha, there we go |
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| 14:18:13 | yzflcyq | Sorry,Something wrong with my network. |
| 14:18:20 | wind | andrewRB:I use onda vx747. |
| 14:18:27 | soap | before you go off deleting more themes - let me check my PM archives. Someone has claimed their WMPish icons are original artwork, not resource rips. |
| 14:19:07 | yzflcyq | So can I. |
| 14:20:05 | yzflcyq | Now I anounce:All the icons in my theme are my original artwork, not resource rips. |
| 14:20:47 | AlexP | soap: They are only hidden anyway |
| 14:20:53 | AlexP | soap: For just such an eventuality |
| 14:20:55 | soap | well, yzflcyq, the whole entire project is based on the word of the contributers re:copyright. Unless Rockbox decides to create an official Auditor position it will always be that way. |
| 14:21:34 | AlexP | soap: And they were reported by others, I'm not being pro-active here (and indeed it isn't just me who has hidden these) :) |
| 14:22:01 | AlexP | yzflcyq: Why didn't you say that originally, and only when soap mentioned it? |
| 14:23:00 | soap | doesn't matter - a reasonable response is now to spend more effort vetting yzflcyq's claims than those of others. |
| 14:23:01 | yzflcyq | I thought it was unnecessary. |
| 14:23:40 | yzflcyq | It my work(actually It's my friend's and I asked him). |
| 14:24:03 | AlexP | How was it unnecessary when it was the entire point of the discussion? |
| 14:24:40 | yzflcyq | Well, I've never thought about it. |
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| 14:25:43 | soap | that's not our fault. You were offered the license text upon submittal. |
| 14:25:49 | soap | don't dig a deeper hole |
| 14:26:31 | yzflcyq | In Chinese things like it will be thought was just Imitation，no matter it's your own art work or not. |
| 14:26:48 | AlexP | It actually matters |
| 14:26:56 | AlexP | As I said, we respect copyright |
| 14:27:23 | AlexP | That means you cannot use other people's work without permission |
| 14:27:42 | yzflcyq | See. |
| 14:29:13 | yzflcyq | So can I reupload it with a anouncement that it is all art work? |
| 14:29:31 | yzflcyq | So can I reupload it with a anouncement that it is all my own art work? |
| 14:29:37 | GodEater | do we already know about this? http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/Other-AUDIO-Tools/Rockbox-Database-Builder.shtml ? |
| 14:30:03 | soap | after the fiasco you've probably lost your "presumption of innocence" |
| 14:30:41 | yzflcyq | My fate. |
| 14:31:35 | AlexP | yzflcyq: We need to check it out |
| 14:31:59 | linuxstb | GodEater: I didn't... Here's the homepage - http://sourceforge.net/projects/rbdb/ |
| 14:32:03 | GodEater | Torne: the person talking about the text viewer and >1M files breaking it was pamaury |
| 14:32:26 | GodEater | linuxstb: nor me - it's nice. Shame it's not on our wiki somewhere! |
| 14:32:32 | GodEater | (assuming it works of course!) |
| 14:32:40 | yzflcyq | Just check. |
| 14:33:02 | AlexP | "intended to add several features to the rockbox database that the rockbox firmware does not currently implement." |
| 14:33:12 | AlexP | So I wonder what they do |
| 14:33:23 | linuxstb | GodEater: Downloading the source, I see it's written in python, rather than using the Rockbox C code. |
| 14:33:29 | pixelma | regarding the +1MB text files - there is probably a difference in whether you open it in the text viewer or the editor |
| 14:34:12 | yzflcyq | I personally think C is better than python. |
| 14:34:22 | yzflcyq | Much efficently. |
| 14:34:34 | GodEater | AlexP: I wondered at that too |
| 14:34:39 | Torne | AlexP: i would guess they write values into the various fields which are different to what we infer from the metadata |
| 14:34:40 | GodEater | it must work magic |
| 14:34:57 | Torne | like the trick to insert comments containing multiple field values so you can display them in tagnavi to get around the restriction |
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| 14:35:06 | Torne | (the year-album thing) |
| 14:35:11 | GodEater | ah yes |
| 14:35:15 | GodEater | clever |
| 14:35:22 | AlexP | Much as I don't use it, the database really could use some love |
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| 14:35:25 | Torne | pure speculation :) |
| 14:35:46 | Torne | but it seems like something you might well want to do with such a tool that wouldn't be very difficult. |
| 14:35:55 | GodEater | yes - I gave up trying to get that sorting all tracks by album (but not displaying the album name) thing to work |
| 14:36:04 | GodEater | it just data aborts the dap |
| 14:36:15 | GodEater | it doesn't seem like such a silly thing to want to do |
| 14:36:23 | Torne | yeah. the db is just not flexible enough |
| 14:37:09 | yzflcyq | A stupid question from me. |
| 14:37:44 | yzflcyq | Is rockbox gonna add Chinese support? |
| 14:37:54 | AlexP | It does, doesn't it? |
| 14:38:06 | AlexP | If you select a suitable font and code page |
| 14:38:20 | AlexP | I don't know how complete the translation is though |
| 14:38:32 | yzflcyq | The point I ask is that a Chinese inputer. |
| 14:38:37 | * | GodEater doesn't think this is a particularly stupid question either |
| 14:38:51 | Torne | That would be difficult |
| 14:38:56 | AlexP | ah right |
| 14:38:58 | wind | pixelma:open it in the text viewer,but then 747 become a balck screen. |
| 14:39:02 | GodEater | yes, a chinese text editor would be tough |
| 14:39:17 | AlexP | Could you do it to an extent with a customised virtual keyboard? |
| 14:39:22 | yzflcyq | Ah,bad tranlate for chinese. |
| 14:39:23 | Torne | yzflcyq: how does chinese text input work on PCs? Is it similar to Japanese IMEs? (type in kana, translates to kanji for you)? |
| 14:39:44 | yzflcyq | Almost the same. |
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| 14:40:23 | Torne | you can make a keyboard which has the syllables, and type in those (i forget what they are called for chinese) |
| 14:40:43 | Torne | but doing the conversion to proper characters would be very difficult, we have nothing like the IME facility |
| 14:40:51 | yzflcyq | Input 'wo',translates to '我' and other same-sound characters. |
| 14:41:02 | Torne | hm |
| 14:41:46 | AlexP | yzflcyq: Translation updates from native speakers are always very welcome |
| 14:42:12 | yzflcyq | Yeah.I do want to help you translate it. |
| 14:42:50 | Torne | yzflcyq: are we talking about something that needs a few dozen or a few thousand charcaters, though? I don't know the proper terms for chinese but it would not be difficult to have a rockbox keyboard that let you type in katakana for Japanese, we just couldn't do the step where it translates a string of katakana into a kanji |
| 14:42:55 | yzflcyq | But,how to? |
| 14:43:18 | funman | yzflcyq: download the translation file and complete/correct it |
| 14:43:30 | AlexP | Unfortunaltely rasher's translation tool is currently broken |
| 14:43:46 | AlexP | rasher: That is a problem with the host, yes? |
| 14:43:59 | yzflcyq | Then how to upload/commit a translatetion? |
| 14:44:00 | AlexP | If so, would it be possible to get it running on the Rockbox server? |
| 14:44:04 | rasher | AlexP: Yeah, maybe I should look into having scorche host it |
| 14:44:15 | AlexP | yzflcyq: Pop a patch on flyspray |
| 14:44:32 | yzflcyq | I've never known the translate tool. |
| 14:44:39 | AlexP | rasher: It is such a useful tool for Rockbox, it seems a shame not to have it available :) |
| 14:44:49 | rasher | I agree, really |
| 14:45:26 | rasher | scorche: Feel like hosting translate.rockbox.org or something like that? |
| 14:45:44 | rasher | I guess I should clean up the source a bit and stick it in svn at the same time |
| 14:45:52 | AlexP | That'd be cool |
| 14:46:11 | yzflcyq | Looks like I really do need the tool. |
| 14:46:34 | AlexP | yzflcyq: It makes it a lot easier, although it is possible without |
| 14:47:03 | yzflcyq | So? |
| 14:47:25 | yzflcyq | Then Without it How can I translate? |
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| 14:48:26 | Torne | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/LangFiles |
| 14:48:36 | yzflcyq | Reading. |
| 14:50:12 | yzflcyq | Ah,diffcult for me. |
| 14:51:07 | yzflcyq | I remember rasher.dk can be visited. |
| 14:53:00 | yzflcyq | Do anyone have the translate tool? |
| 14:53:45 | Torne | no. |
| 14:54:03 | Torne | That's what people were discussing above: having it available on the rockbox site as an officially supported thing |
| 14:54:51 | yzflcyq | Perfect. |
| 14:55:19 | Torne | so, maybe that will happen :) |
| 14:55:56 | yzflcyq | It hard to build a translate Environment under Ubuntu. |
| 14:56:19 | Torne | it shouldn't be.. |
| 14:57:09 | yzflcyq | What? |
| 14:57:29 | Torne | it should be fairly easy to set up any kind of rockbox development on debian/ubuntu |
| 14:57:36 | Torne | compiling, manual building, translating |
| 14:57:52 | Torne | have you actually tried? |
| 14:58:12 | yzflcyq | Not completely |
| 14:58:17 | yzflcyq | yep. |
| 14:58:31 | wind | A stupid question:Can I play GB games with gamepad on onda747？ |
| 14:59:03 | Torne | what problems did you have? |
| 14:59:11 | Torne | perhaps the instructions need to be improved |
| 14:59:28 | wind | As you know 747 only has four button. |
| 14:59:51 | yzflcyq | Acutully it's five. |
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| 15:00:02 | yzflcyq | Hold is also one. |
| 15:00:15 | wind | I just want to play games using gamepad |
| 15:00:50 | rasher | You don't need to setup anything to be able to translate, actually. |
| 15:01:04 | rasher | Only if you want to build Rockbox afterwards to test the translation |
| 15:01:10 | Torne | wind: what do you mean, gamepad? |
| 15:01:24 | yzflcyq | So I decided to translate it under Windows. |
| 15:01:27 | wind | Hold is included |
| 15:01:41 | Torne | you can change the button mappings in rockboy |
| 15:01:47 | yzflcyq | Mean Controller |
| 15:01:54 | wind | Using gamepad play GB games |
| 15:02:01 | Torne | so if the game you are playing is playable with only the buttons the onda has, then you can |
| 15:02:08 | Torne | but if the game needs more than 4/5 buttons then probably not :) |
| 15:02:40 | pixelma | the Ondas have a 400x240 screen, right? |
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| 15:03:04 | yzflcyq | 240x400 |
| 15:03:08 | wind | right |
| 15:03:26 | yzflcyq | 240x400 under rockbox |
| 15:04:34 | wind | So,I think we can try to change the codes to support the gamepad |
| 15:04:49 | Torne | what gamepad? |
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| 15:05:11 | Torne | you can map the onda's buttons to whatever gameboy buttons is useful for the game you are playing |
| 15:05:18 | wind | Hold on a minute |
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| 15:05:51 | pixelma | I always wondered if it would be possible (or how complicated it is) for those touchscreen targets to adapt the plugin to the slightly smaller screen graphics and have touch areas like "buttons" alongside in the rest of the screen |
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| 15:06:52 | Torne | pixelma: probably - the screen is more than large enough |
| 15:07:12 | Torne | you could display the buttons on the touchscreen below the screen in a similar layout to the actual gameboy :) |
| 15:07:43 | yzflcyq | Set some Virtual buttons on both sides of the screen? |
| 15:08:42 | pixelma | yes. But it will be some work on the plugins to allow this control method (I guess, I'm not a coder) |
| 15:08:49 | wind | I have a picture |
| 15:09:00 | wind | How to upload |
| 15:09:20 | yzflcyq | pixelma:So am I. |
| 15:10:20 | Torne | pixelma: to a limited extent you can already use the touchscreen, it's in grid mode |
| 15:10:28 | Torne | so you can treat the touchscreen as 9 more buttons |
| 15:11:01 | yzflcyq | Got it.But it's diffcult to use. |
| 15:11:30 | Torne | Yes, quite possibly :) |
| 15:12:06 | Torne | wind: post it on http://picpaste.com/ |
| 15:12:48 | yzflcyq | And is rockbox gonna to add some new UIs based on touch-screen? |
| 15:13:03 | Torne | in rockboy specifically, or in general? |
| 15:13:05 | yzflcyq | Like...slide touch? |
| 15:13:14 | Torne | there are people working o nmaking more screens use the touchscreen in a more natural way |
| 15:13:21 | Torne | but i don't think anyone is looking at this for rockboy right now |
| 15:13:43 | yzflcyq | Under the hole rockbox,not only rockboy. |
| 15:14:06 | wind | In China，a man named tomac has already designed a gamepad on Ondas |
| 15:14:37 | wind | I am loading the documents |
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| 15:15:38 | yzflcyq | wind:you have new name,なぎひこ |
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| 15:17:35 | wind | I thing if wo can play games using gamepad,then the rockbox became perfect! |
| 15:18:39 | Torne | i still don't understand what you mean by gamepad |
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| 15:18:48 | yzflcyq | Impossible and unnecessary |
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| 15:19:25 | wind | http://cid-25d170e0c1bf0b49.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/FC%e6%89%8b%e6%9f%84%e5%9b%be%e8%a7%a3%e6%95%99%e7%a8%8b.doc |
| 15:19:47 | yzflcyq | Chinese document? |
| 15:20:05 | wind | right |
| 15:20:22 | wind | I am sorry |
| 15:21:26 | yzflcyq | About what? |
| 15:21:34 | wind | This document has explain the word "Gamepad" |
| 15:22:44 | yzflcyq | I personally think nobody well read it,unless understand it. |
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| 15:24:01 | wind | Torne:I can't open http://picpaste.com/ ,so I choose SkyDrive |
| 15:24:09 | yzflcyq | So anyone is Japanese? |
| 15:24:59 | Torne | right, i see |
| 15:25:09 | Torne | yes, someone could write a rockbox driver for that hardware |
| 15:25:22 | Torne | though I don't know how good a framework we have for handling that kind of thing being plugged and unplugged |
| 15:25:30 | Torne | it's unlikely any of hte developers would wnat to, though |
| 15:25:35 | Torne | unless they had such a device :) |
| 15:25:44 | Torne | and you would need to have one to test it. |
| 15:25:59 | Torne | plus if that's the only documentatoin for it, it would hav eto be someone who understands chinese :) |
| 15:25:59 | yzflcyq | unnecessary |
| 15:27:03 | Torne | also we don't really have a way of loading drivers dynamically so if such a thing were supported it would be compiled into the main binary |
| 15:27:08 | Torne | which would increase the binary size for everyone :( |
| 15:27:14 | Torne | so.. i would guess it's not *likely* |
| 15:27:16 | yzflcyq | Yep. |
| 15:27:18 | Torne | it is physically possible though. |
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| 15:27:52 | Zagor | http://bjorn.haxx.se/blog/2010/01/29/pluggable-rockbox-screen-transitions/ |
| 15:28:02 | Zagor | an idea I've been toying with |
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| 15:28:27 | yzflcyq | It's a large project to support those device. |
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| 15:28:53 | Torne | yzflcyq: not really large, it looks pretty simple |
| 15:29:11 | Torne | if someone with the relevant skills actually *had* such a device they could probably write a driver for it in a day or two |
| 15:29:17 | Torne | assuming they cared :) |
| 15:29:23 | gevaerts | Zagor: I'd like the ability to easily support all sorts of plugins, but I think this sort of thing realistically needs a variable-address plugin loader |
| 15:30:05 | Zagor | right, I'm seeing these as special plugins with their own plugin space |
| 15:30:12 | Torne | someday when i have infinite time i will experiment with elf2flt and friends |
| 15:30:25 | Torne | and see how feasible it would be for us to compile plugins to flt binaies and load them |
| 15:30:45 | Torne | if it can be made to work the overhead of loading is probably fairly tiny |
| 15:30:48 | gevaerts | that works of course, but every new plugin idea will make RAM usage more inefficient |
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| 15:31:26 | Zagor | gevaerts: yep |
| 15:31:51 | Torne | of course someone else could do it first :) |
| 15:31:57 | * | gevaerts would also like WPS visualisation plugins, and possibly USB class driver plugins |
| 15:32:31 | Torne | on the subject of USB classes can we change the bloody usb screen so it says something other than just "Multimedia Mode" to indicate the HID profile? |
| 15:33:07 | Torne | that's another thing i have lost count of how many people have been confused by :) |
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| 15:34:28 | gevaerts | yes please |
| 15:34:44 | Zagor | gevaerts: otoh I suppose the transition plugin could live in the current plugin space, and only be used by the core. |
| 15:34:55 | Torne | not that i know what to change it to |
| 15:35:33 | Zagor | when you run a plugin it simply overwrites the transition code, and when you exit the plugin you reload the transition |
| 15:35:51 | Torne | you could do that |
| 15:35:56 | Torne | but it seems a bit of a fiddle :) |
| 15:36:28 | gevaerts | Zagor: isn't there a bit in the core somewhere that already uses the plugin buffer for its own needs? |
| 15:36:36 | Zagor | is it? |
| 15:37:08 | Torne | well ok it's not absurd. |
| 15:37:18 | Torne | but i do think *someone* should investigate whether flt would work for us : |
| 15:37:21 | gevaerts | the playlist viewer or something like that |
| 15:37:31 | Torne | i would do it but, er, you know ;) |
| 15:37:45 | Zagor | gevaerts: bah, who wants a playlist viewer instead of eye candy? ;-) |
| 15:37:55 | gevaerts | :) |
| 15:37:59 | wind | I hane another question.Who can explain to me the difference between USB modes? |
| 15:38:22 | Torne | wind: they control what keypresses the player generates on the host PC using the HID interface |
| 15:38:36 | Torne | it has no effect on using it as a mass storage device (or on charging) |
| 15:38:56 | Torne | multimedia mode means when you press play/stop/etc on the player it generates the keycodes for play/stop/etc as used by multimedia keyboards |
| 15:39:05 | Torne | the othe rmodes make the player simulate a mouse, or a presentation remote, or various others |
| 15:39:23 | gevaerts | Zagor: the point is that with proper PIC plugins, we can have *more* eyecandy! |
| 15:39:32 | Zagor | agreed |
| 15:40:05 | wind | Torne:Thanks! |
| 15:40:42 | rasher | Torne: "Multimedia key mode"? |
| 15:41:07 | Torne | gevaerts: well, relocatable plugins. actual PIC probably sucks beyond redemption for our purposes as i discovered before ;) |
| 15:41:24 | Torne | (and even if it could be made to work it would be slightly slower for everything) |
| 15:41:30 | gevaerts | Torne: I don't care about names :) |
| 15:41:44 | Torne | rasher: i was thinking a prefix or something |
| 15:41:51 | Torne | dunno how much 'room' we have considering all targets though |
| 15:41:56 | Torne | Keypad mode: multimedia |
| 15:41:57 | Torne | ? |
| 15:42:08 | Torne | to me that makes it much more clear that it's unrelated to storage |
| 15:42:26 | Torne | or just key mode.. |
| 15:42:34 | rasher | Zagor: would you be fine with a translate.rockbox.org which had my translation stuff hosted by.. probably scorche if he's up for it |
| 15:42:47 | Zagor | sure |
| 15:42:51 | wind | But I am still confused, how to use while charging |
| 15:43:14 | Torne | hold whichever key it says to hold in the manual, while you insert hte usb cable |
| 15:43:31 | Torne | the "mode" thing displayed is not anything to do with that either |
| 15:44:08 | * | Torne attempts to "perfect" the pp5020 dma patch :) |
| 15:45:02 | evilnick_B | Torne: Button mode? |
| 15:45:31 | wind | Thank you!Torne |
| 15:47:36 | andrewRB | please could anyone with a working build environment and mingw set up build scramble.exe for me? |
| 15:48:35 | rasher | Zagor: are you the guy to prod for dns changes? |
| 15:48:41 | Zagor | yes |
| 15:49:46 | rasher | Alright, I'll yell eventually |
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| 16:12:55 | jsiddall | I have a Sansa Clip v1. I would like it to boot Rockbox by default when USB is connected, and only load the OF when the left button is pressed. I had a look at the code in rbutil/mkamsboot/dualboot/dualboot.S and think I have a solution, but since getting this wrong would brick the thing I would like confirmation of the change. |
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| 16:13:25 | Torne | jsiddall: pastebin it |
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| 16:16:09 | GodEater | I thought bootloaders on the AMS models could brick them anyway for no good reson? |
| 16:18:06 | linuxstb | GodEater: There are in effect two bootloaders - the very simple dual-boot code (that checks for a button press and branches appropriately) which is in that .S file jsiddall referred to, and then the main bootloader. |
| 16:18:31 | GodEater | and which is the dangerous one? |
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| 16:18:39 | linuxstb | Changes to the main bootloader should be safe, even though it's flashed, as a broken bootloader shouldn't break dual-booting. |
| 16:18:53 | linuxstb | dualboot.S is the dangerous one. I wouldn't want to touch it... |
| 16:19:03 | jsiddall | Yeah, that's why I am worried! |
| 16:19:10 | jsiddall | Still, the change is pretty simple: |
| 16:19:12 | jsiddall | http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m32838ded |
| 16:19:43 | Torne | No, that's wrong |
| 16:19:51 | Torne | That won't compile |
| 16:19:56 | GodEater | also, chrome doesn't like that link! |
| 16:19:59 | Torne | so fortunately you won't be able to brick your player that way :) |
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| 16:20:08 | Torne | no wait i'm blind |
| 16:20:11 | Torne | pardo nme :) |
| 16:20:41 | Torne | it should be ok as long as nothing else depends on the register loads there.. |
| 16:20:42 | * | Torne checks |
| 16:22:06 | jsiddall | All I am trying to do is skip the check for whether USB is connected |
| 16:22:26 | jsiddall | Any predictions of my odds for success? |
| 16:22:30 | Torne | That looks like it should be fine |
| 16:22:39 | Torne | however if it bricks your player then this is Not My Fault(tm) :) |
| 16:22:55 | jsiddall | Yeah, I know there are no guarantees for success here! |
| 16:23:12 | jsiddall | Next question: How do I compile mkamsboot? |
| 16:23:25 | jsiddall | Configure with a "Normal" compile doesn't seem to do it |
| 16:24:09 | Torne | No, the stuff under rbutil is built entirely seperately |
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| 16:25:14 | jsiddall | OK, so just cd in there and make? |
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| 16:28:06 | linuxstb | jsiddall: One thing I would definitely do before installing a new firmware is to disassemble it, and make sure that looks OK. |
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| 16:28:34 | mr45 | am trying rockbox on it but no joy |
| 16:28:48 | mr45 | maybe coz its V2? |
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| 16:29:03 | jsiddall | Sorry about the first link. This should be better: http://pastebin.com/m32838ded |
| 16:29:07 | mr45 | hey guys has anyone got a sansa fuze? |
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| 16:36:34 | jsiddall | linuxstb: Hmmm... I'm not a developer so this is stretching me. Can you give me a command to disassemble? I'll see if I can figure it out from there. |
| 16:37:33 | Torne | if you don't know what the command is to disassemble a binary then, er, you probably aren't going to be able to read the results particularly well either |
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| 16:41:43 | linuxstb | jsiddall: You can do "arm-elf-objdump -D -b binary -m arm file.bin > file.txt" |
| 16:41:44 | jsiddall | PErhaps |
| 16:41:48 | Strife89 | Hmmm, if I complete the Cabbie port, can't the GoGear SA9200 be moved to Unstable? |
| 16:42:14 | jsiddall | But I don't know C or assembly either, and I _might_ have figured out how to modify the bootloader! |
| 16:42:30 | mr45 | hey guys do u know if the developers are going to do rockbox on the sansa fuze v2? |
| 16:42:43 | Strife89 | I was told that the GoGear needs a Cabbie port AND image conversions for the plugins, but that strikes me as odd. |
| 16:43:06 | Strife89 | Since the description of Unstable says that Rockbox is "incomplete" on those targets. |
| 16:43:43 | jsiddall | mr45: latest info for Sansa ports are here: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14064.0 |
| 16:45:20 | mr45 | yeah been looking at it now, all 92 pages heh |
| 16:46:57 | mr45 | cheers tho :) |
| 16:47:17 | linuxstb | jsiddall: But why do you want Rockbox to start when the USB cable is attached? I didn't think Rockbox had USB support on the AMS Sansas yet? |
| 16:47:47 | jsiddall | It does support USB for charging. I want to use the Clip in car mode where no PC is attached. |
| 16:48:08 | jsiddall | OF with USB attached essentially breaks car mode |
| 16:48:31 | linuxstb | So it doesn't distiguish between a USB charger and a computer? |
| 16:48:32 | FlynDice | jsiddall: be very careful. You are not modifying the bootloader you are modifying dualboot.s. This is the one thing that has a high chance of bricking your player if you screw it up. And you just said yhat you don't know C or asm... |
| 16:48:48 | Torne | linuxstb: no, the GPIO pin it looks at doesn't know the difference |
| 16:49:03 | Torne | it looks like the pin is just "is anything plugge dinto the usb port" |
| 16:49:18 | jsiddall | Yeah, if it could detect whether a PC or charger was connected that would be sweet |
| 16:49:57 | Torne | well when we support USB it can do that, probably... |
| 16:50:10 | jsiddall | FlynDice: And yes, I know I in dangerous territory here. Thus asking about my patch before using it. |
| 16:50:29 | jsiddall | ...but by the time USB is supported there may be no need for the OF at all! |
| 16:50:58 | Torne | we generally support dual booting anyway, though |
| 16:51:20 | jsiddall | FlynDice: Could you check http://pastebin.com/m32838ded and let me know if you see anything scary? |
| 16:51:22 | Torne | if it's possible, we try and support it even if there's no actual *need* to use the OF - some people still use the OF for somethings. |
| 16:51:54 | jsiddall | Yeah, no harm in allowing the OF I guess. The clip still doesn't support recording so I guess there is still at least one reason to keep the OF. |
| 16:53:10 | FlynDice | jsiddall: You don't want me checking, I'd suggest linuxstb or funman..... |
| 16:53:55 | Torne | jsiddall: your patch is right, as far as it's possible to tell |
| 16:54:08 | jsiddall | OK, well one endorsement is good enough for me to try it. Thanks! |
| 16:54:10 | Torne | that block of instructions is isolated |
| 16:54:20 | Torne | none of the subsequent code depends on the values of r0/r1 that it sets |
| 16:54:23 | jsiddall | Yeah, looked pretty innocent. |
| 16:54:29 | Torne | and nothing subsequently uses GPIOA either |
| 16:54:46 | Torne | so even if it doesn't work somehow you *should* still be able to boot the OF by holding the button |
| 16:54:48 | gevaerts | jsiddall: I suspect that you'll also need some modifications to the main build to not have it reboot later on. Those aren't dangerous though, so you can just try and see |
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| 17:08:24 | jsiddall | linuxstb:OK, I got the dissassembled bin. I see stuff from 0-1c, a bunch of swinv 0x00ffffff to 200, some more stuff until 21c, then more swinv 0x00ffffff until 400 where I see ldr pc, [pc, #216] ; 0x4e0. There is also stuff at 420, 428 and 430. Things appear to be in the right spots according to mkamsboot.c but since I don't have a clue what most of that is doing I likewise have no clue if it will work. Care to look at a |
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| 17:08:50 | funman | FlynDice: hi, i noticed your message on the forum, you prefer to discuss this on irc ? |
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| 17:09:34 | linuxstb | jsiddall: Yes, I don't mind taking a quick look at your bin file (send me the bin. not the disassembly) |
| 17:09:36 | funman | jsiddall: the diff you pasted looks correct, you'll still have the left button as a safety |
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| 17:10:06 | funman | if you want to apply it, first run make in mkamsboot/dualboot/ and then copy the dualboot.c and dualboot.h to mkamsboot/ , overwriting the ones already present |
| 17:10:07 | jsiddall | funman: OK, that's what I need. Thanks for having a look |
| 17:11:00 | funman | if it were for me, I would just start the Clip before starting the motor engine, but you're free to choose otherwise of course |
| 17:11:33 | funman | (hm, are you the person who want to use the clip in his car ?) |
| 17:12:03 | jsiddall | Shows you how lazy I am! I really don't want to have to pull it out of the glove box every time I drive. |
| 17:12:07 | jsiddall | Yes |
| 17:12:24 | jsiddall | There is someone else who asked for this also so I am not alone it appears. |
| 17:12:56 | funman | true, but personally i don't mind extra paranoia |
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| 17:28:27 | andrewRB | is there still a daily 7z source package? |
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| 17:30:58 | Torne | no. |
| 17:31:00 | Torne | use svn. |
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| 17:32:52 | andrewRB | okiedokes. already am. just figured the wiki ought to be updated, many pages still reference it and link to the build page |
| 17:40:54 | jsiddall | linuxstb: Sending you new bin file now. I diffed the disassembled bins and I see only reasonable changes at 4, 204, 400, and then a ton of changes from 444 on. |
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| 17:41:32 | jsiddall | andrewRB: Agreed about the wiki updates |
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| 17:46:05 | Strife89 | Could someone take a look at the Cabbie port before I make a patch for it? |
| 17:46:17 | Strife89 | The port is for the GoGear SA9200. |
| 17:51:11 | Strife89 | Here's a shot of the e200 port that I used for reference. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1905158/dump%20100129-110812.bmp |
| 17:51:25 | Strife89 | Here is a shot of the GoGear port. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1905158/dump%20100129-113651.bmp |
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| 17:56:16 | Strife89 | PNG version of the e200 shot: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1905158/dump%20100129-110812.png |
| 17:56:30 | Strife89 | PNG version of the GoGear shot: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1905158/dump%20100129-113651.png |
| 17:57:15 | gevaerts | I don't really like the missing album name, but then I don't use cabbie anyway because it doesn't show the composer |
| 17:58:06 | Strife89 | gevaerts: I have it display the album name if there's no album art. |
| 17:58:37 | Strife89 | gevaerts: As shown here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1905158/dump%20100129-113953.png |
| 17:59:03 | gevaerts | yes, but still |
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| 18:37:39 | Strife89 | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10937 |
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| 18:39:23 | JdGordon | pixelma: they are defined, you'de have to check export/lcd.h to find out to what |
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| 18:47:20 | jsiddall | Good news and bad news: First the good: The updates to bootloader for Clip to allow RB boot with USB connected worked! No brick −− yay! |
| 18:48:24 | jsiddall | Bad news: as gevaerts speculated it immediately reboots once it loads RB. Any hints about where to start looking for that change? |
| 18:49:10 | FlynDice | how far does it get in rockbox? |
| 18:49:31 | jsiddall | To the point of displaying the menu... basically all the way |
| 18:49:49 | jsiddall | There is obviously something watching for a USB connection |
| 18:50:05 | bertrik | jsiddall, is this the clip, or the clip+ ? |
| 18:50:08 | jsiddall | Clip[ |
| 18:50:14 | jsiddall | Make that Clip |
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| 18:50:21 | jsiddall | V1 |
| 18:50:37 | gevaerts | jsiddall: I suspect that the easiest is to change firmware/target/arm/as3525/usb-as3525.c |
| 18:50:53 | jsiddall | Thanks, I'll look there |
| 18:50:55 | gevaerts | look for the usb_detect() function, and make it always return USB_EXTRACTED |
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| 18:52:48 | jsiddall | Easy enough. I'll swap return USB_INSERTED; with return USB_EXTRACTED; |
| 18:53:30 | jsiddall | It looks like I could also just remove the #if defined(SANSA_CLIP) |
| 18:53:30 | jsiddall | #define USB_DETECT_PIN 6 stuff |
| 18:53:51 | jsiddall | That might be cleaner |
| 18:53:53 | gevaerts | I'd just remove everything except the return USB_EXTRACTED; line. No need to spend time actually looking at the pin |
| 18:54:09 | jsiddall | Exactly |
| 18:54:27 | gevaerts | oh yes, you're right |
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| 18:54:57 | bertrik | What exactly are you working on? I though dual boot already worked for the clip v1. |
| 18:55:04 | gevaerts | bertrik: exactly :) |
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| 18:55:30 | AlexP | bertrik: So if you power on with usb connecte you go to Rockbox charging, not OF USB |
| 18:55:32 | jsiddall | Dual boot works _unless_ you plug in USB. Then it is single boot OF only |
| 18:55:34 | gevaerts | He wants to *always* boot into rockbox by default, and stay there, regardless of USB being plugged in |
| 18:55:35 | AlexP | bertrik: For car use |
| 18:55:54 | jsiddall | Yes, all this is to make car mode not broken |
| 18:56:35 | ThS|Bullet | Hi all I'd like to know if someone can help me to choose the right gcc and binutils to build the svn for my iRiver H3x0 |
| 18:57:04 | jsiddall | The clip is one of a presumably small set of players that can really work well in car mode because it automatically starts the FW as soon as power is connected. Most players seem to require manual intervention to start. |
| 18:58:13 | gevaerts | ThS|Bullet: the recommended toolchain is the one built by tools/rockboxdev.sh in the source |
| 18:59:48 | ThS|Bullet | thx gevaerts :) |
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| 19:00:44 | ThS|Bullet | Is that script recent? |
| 19:01:55 | jsiddall | I just used it yesterday and it worked for compiling a Sansa |
| 19:02:12 | jsiddall | ...on a F12 system |
| 19:04:15 | AlexP | ThS|Bullet: No, it has been around for years |
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| 19:04:49 | AlexP | It gets the correct versions of the cross compilers and patches them as required |
| 19:05:02 | ThS|Bullet | such a shame i didn't saw him before =x |
| 19:05:51 | ThS|Bullet | I've always tried to build the svn but i never succeed |
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| 19:06:35 | jsiddall | It worked first time for me. In my experience that is a spectacular result. |
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| 19:12:40 | Bullet` | what does the script mean by " make your path include"? |
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| 19:13:01 | AlexP | Bullet`: Do you know what the PATH variable is |
| 19:13:05 | AlexP | +? |
| 19:13:26 | Bullet` | yes |
| 19:13:41 | AlexP | Add the things it tells you to that |
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| 19:14:46 | Bullet` | mmmh so i don't think i know what is a the PATH variable (i thought of an environement variable) |
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| 19:19:35 | Bullet` | AlexP, do I have to do that? export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/m68k-elf/bin |
| 19:20:14 | AlexP | Bullet`: Yes, that'll do it temporarily |
| 19:21:06 | AlexP | You can add that line "~/.bashrc" to do it permanently |
| 19:23:14 | Bullet` | i think i'll do that thank you |
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| 19:32:26 | Bullet` | thanks all it worked fine =) |
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| 19:41:58 | PaulJam | hi, was the "ui viewport" setting in the .cfg files removed recently? it doesn't seem to work for me anymore. |
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| 19:48:13 | bertrik | Strife89, I'm no theme expert, but I think your cabbie port for the gogear 9200 looks nice |
| 19:49:37 | pixelma | PaulJam: maybe onr of JdGordon's recent commitd did |
| 19:49:41 | pixelma | commits too |
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| 19:51:33 | PaulJam | Yes, looks like it. with the latest daily build (r24365) it still works. |
| 19:52:56 | PaulJam | Jdgordon: could you have a look at the "ui viewport" setting from the theme.cfg? it doesn't seem to work anymore. |
| 19:53:33 | pixelma | not sure if he wanted to commit this all in one but I think it is removed on purpose, as you can get the same effect with an sbs file |
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| 19:55:31 | pixelma | there was a major complication with the ui viewport and the list viewport in the base skin because it involved calculating the intersection of the two and whatnot |
| 19:55:35 | JdGordon| | yes, it was removed on purpose... its not actually removed, only ignore if the sbs specifies one |
| 19:55:55 | Strife89 | bertrik: :) |
| 19:57:59 | Strife89 | bertrik: I know that Lambda owns a 9200; he says he's going to check it out tonight. I'd like to see it commited soon. :) |
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| 20:00:07 | Strife89 | bertrik: And I'm no theme expert either. The only original theme I've ever tried to make was a total flop, and I scrapped it. |
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| 20:08:03 | PaulJam | JdGordon|: the sbs file didn't contain a %Vi... line. i now added that line to the sbs and the statusar looks normal again. thanks for the hint. |
| 20:09:17 | JdGordon| | then the sbs shuold never have worked |
| 20:10:31 | JdGordon| | pixelma: where would be the best place to put a full listing of what consitutes a theme? ThemeGuidlines? |
| 20:14:14 | JdGordon| | PaulJam: ah right, yes it would have worked previously because the system was (IMO) messed up |
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| 20:50:59 | amiconn | Unhelpful: Is there a reason to not go beyond 16384 table entries? |
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| 21:01:01 | CIA-5 | New commit by bluebrother (r24371): Change several platform names to match configure names. ... |
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| 21:01:20 | JdGordon| | rasher: how much effort would be needed to move the icon set gallery from the wii to the theme site? and would that be something worth doing? |
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| 21:03:00 | JdGordon| | s/wii/wiki/ |
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| 21:11:29 | * | JdGordon| decides to repurpose RockboxThemes |
| 21:20:20 | mtgeekman | Has anyone looked into putting rockbox on the Visual Land V-Touch media player? its an ipod touch knock off. |
| 21:21:58 | JdGordon| | nope |
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| 21:38:43 | amiconn | Unhelpful: Here are my speed results with the (fixed) patch (http://rockbox.pastebin.ca/1771177). Order is -c1000/2000/3000/4000: |
| 21:39:20 | amiconn | iPod G2 (PP5002) 165.8/106.7/63.8/16.7 % |
| 21:39:42 | amiconn | H10 (PP5020) 153.3/97.0/58.1/21.0 % |
| 21:40:05 | amiconn | Mini G2 (PP5022) 169.6/108.2/64.2/21.6 % |
| 21:40:53 | amiconn | If you compare with svn speeds, you can clearly see the effect of the out-of-iram filter buffer for -c4000 on PP5002 |
| 21:46:07 | JdGordon| | AlexP: does http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxThemes in any way clean up the confusion between sbs and everything? |
| 21:47:31 | AlexP | JdGordon|: I'll have a shufti |
| 21:48:44 | JdGordon| | also, can we rename the "WPS and Appearance" forum? |
| 21:49:05 | JdGordon| | maybe "Themeing support" or something? |
| 21:49:22 | AlexP | You need an admin for that |
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| 21:49:34 | JdGordon| | you arent special enough? |
| 21:49:39 | AlexP | Nope :( |
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| 21:49:50 | JdGordon| | aawww :p |
| 21:49:54 | AlexP | I know :) |
| 21:50:03 | JdGordon| | scorche:^ |
| 21:50:05 | AlexP | And that page is clearer, thanks |
| 21:50:30 | AlexP | Personally, the main confusion came from the name custom statusbar |
| 21:50:59 | JdGordon| | sure, but I tihnk its also nice that we articulate exactly what a theme is now |
| 21:51:09 | AlexP | oh, definately |
| 21:51:28 | JdGordon| | do you know if the colours file format is in the wiki anywhere? |
| 21:51:35 | AlexP | I *think* so |
| 21:51:41 | AlexP | Where is another question :) |
| 21:52:00 | JdGordon| | ah, found it :) |
| 21:52:15 | AlexP | JdGordon|: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomFiletypeColours |
| 21:52:19 | AlexP | ah, too slow :) |
| 21:52:39 | AlexP | JdGordon|: And it is a .colours file |
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| 21:54:51 | Unhelpful | amiconn: i can check again with my dev system but i believe that was the largest size that fit iram and was a valid ARM immediate. the targets with larger amounts of space free for tables can only change table size in rather large increments due to the restrictions on ARM immediates |
| 21:57:47 | Unhelpful | pp5020 seems to have become faster on c4000? might just be down to sampling error but you have it going from 20.0% in svn to 21.0% patched |
| 21:58:12 | amiconn | Ah, makes sense |
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| 21:58:56 | amiconn | Yeah. Seems on PP5020 the iram is a bit slower than the cache?! |
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| 21:59:34 | amiconn | I don't think sampling error is that large |
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| 22:00:41 | Unhelpful | i doubt it is either. did i see that you were thinking about fusing some of the APE filter operations? presumably to save one set of load/store? |
| 22:01:23 | amiconn | yes |
| 22:01:43 | amiconn | It will save an operand load |
| 22:01:58 | amiconn | (per sample*filter_order) |
| 22:02:42 | amiconn | If the sample is non-zero, that is (but zero samples are rare...) |
| 22:03:18 | JdGordon| | hmm.. whats the max framerate the colour targets can do? |
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| 22:03:31 | amiconn | Depends very much on the target |
| 22:04:00 | JdGordon| | in general, <100FPS? <200? |
| 22:04:08 | JdGordon| | colour targets I only care about |
| 22:04:31 | amiconn | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/LcdFrameRate |
| 22:05:45 | JdGordon| | the formatting looks messed up :( |
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| 22:26:59 | pixelma | it's not, it just lloks messy due to the alternatimg colours and the diiferent grouping of rows (or rowspan) |
| 22:27:30 | pixelma | looks even |
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| 22:34:56 | linuxstb | pixelma: Compare http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/LcdFrameRate?rev=49 and http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/LcdFrameRate?rev=50 |
| 22:40:46 | * | linuxstb fixes |
| 22:40:51 | amiconn | Hmm? |
| 22:41:01 | amiconn | There's nothing wrong with the formatting... |
| 22:41:25 | linuxstb | The second header row was wrong. Or at least it was for me... |
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| 22:41:44 | pixelma | r49 didn't have those rowspan things - I guess though that the page still looked nicely with twiki. The header looks wrong yeah |
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| 22:42:42 | amiconn | Hmm, it's a bug in foswiki |
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| 22:43:07 | amiconn | The header also used rowspan, and this did work in twiki |
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| 23:35:38 | scorche | Torne: if you didnt get the pictures from yzwhatever, chinese input in windows at least is usually done by a program (this is the most common program at least) that when started, acts like another bar that sits above the taskbar and users type pinyin into whereever they want it to appear. Then, when they have finished typing the romanised phonetics, they are presented with multiple options with numbers attached to chinese characters which |
| 23:35:49 | scorche | and it replaces the text with the character |
| 23:36:38 | scorche | rasher: i am fine with hosting your translation tool (and anything else you need, really) |
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| 23:38:06 | rasher | scorche: excellent - can you set up a vhost like "translate.rockbox.org" and host it inside the themes account? I'll fake the dns locally for now and prod zagor once I've got it going |
| 23:38:29 | rasher | Or create a new account, but having it inside themes means more people can fix it when it goes wrong |
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| 23:46:39 | CIA-5 | New commit by bluebrother (r24372): Adjust to the buildserver now using ipod4g instead of ipod4gray. |
| 23:46:42 | CIA-5 | New commit by bluebrother (r24373): Minimize unnecessary accesses to SystemInfo and RbSettings. ... |
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