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| 00:01:34 | JdGordon | how would people feel about multifont using the skin buffer for each fonts buffer? each font would keep its own LRU list and cache (although these fonts wouldnt have their cache dumped to disk), and they are only avilable to skins, not to the rest of the UI? |
| 00:02:15 | gevaerts | Some plugins want multifont as well |
| 00:02:45 | WingNut_ | ah thanks gevaerts & stripwax as thats what I was looking for. Another question now :p um.. where can I locate my video files under rb? Manual said they were located using the file browser, but my file browser only shows calender, contacts, music, notes, etc |
| 00:02:46 | kugel | I think it should be done properly |
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| 00:03:15 | JdGordon | if someone were to do it "properly" then it would happen. Wiating around forver is just stupid |
| 00:03:26 | WingNut_ | mpeg4 format if it will support them |
| 00:03:40 | JdGordon | gevaerts: if they really want it, they could use it through the skin engine |
| 00:03:52 | stripwax | WingNut - you probably have them in a Hidden folder. Go to the settings to make sure Hidden folders are shown. |
| 00:04:01 | gevaerts | JdGordon: in what way? |
| 00:04:20 | stripwax | WingNut - I'm assuming you've basically put files onto your ipod using iTunes. So they'll probably show up in some kind of Ipod Control folder |
| 00:04:35 | JdGordon | they would literally create a skin with the required lines to load the font, and the viewport to use the font |
| 00:04:37 | WingNut_ | stripwax: used sharepod |
| 00:04:42 | gevaerts | WingNut_: rockbox doesn't do mpeg4 video |
| 00:04:43 | stripwax | same same |
| 00:04:44 | JdGordon | of course, it could always be cleaner than that |
| 00:05:33 | JdGordon | no, plugins would more likely go through a lib function to do it |
| 00:05:39 | stripwax | WingNut - rockbox just uses a regular file browser (e.g. File Manager / Windows Explorer) to let you put your music/video files wherever you want to put them. itunes/sharepod likely only lets you put your files where the apple OS expects them |
| 00:06:04 | WingNut_ | got it |
| 00:06:06 | JdGordon | I just want to see if its worth putting the effort into firmware/font.c to make it work with more than just the 2 font structs |
| 00:07:05 | kugel | lazyness shouldn't lead to bad code being committed |
| 00:07:37 | kugel | the reason multifont was rejected is still valid, and doing in the skin buffer doesn't make it better |
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| 00:07:58 | * | JdGordon rejects your premise |
| 00:08:08 | JdGordon | ... and heads off to the pub |
| 00:10:22 | WingNut_ | stripwax: viewing my ipod (5th gen video) using windows explorer and there isn't a default folder structure for music (again added with sharepod) so do I just create one for music now? |
| 00:11:46 | stripwax | WingNut - you can do everything/anything you want. If you want to create a folder called Music, go ahead. Or call it anything else, it doesn't have to be called Music. You create whatever structure makes sense to YOU |
| 00:12:08 | stripwax | If your music is already on the device, rockbox's Database will find it |
| 00:12:19 | WingNut_ | correct it did |
| 00:12:31 | WingNut_ | just wanted to ask before I screwed something up :p |
| 00:12:40 | stripwax | :) |
| 00:13:25 | bluebroth3r | WingNut_: in that case I suggest checking out the FAQ: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/GeneralFAQ#So_where_do_I_put_my_music_files |
| 00:19:08 | mamoul | I found a bug in rockbox |
| 00:19:26 | bluebroth3r | mamoul: this happens. |
| 00:19:32 | mamoul | it's weird |
| 00:20:09 | mamoul | I have an album with 114 tracks, so the database plays 10 and then 100 |
| 00:20:19 | mamoul | it should numerically sort the tracks in the id3 tag |
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| 00:22:49 | JdGroid | Kugel: the argument against multifont has always and will always be ram usage |
| 00:23:05 | bluebroth3r | mamoul: the database defaults to recognizing numbers with up to two digits. You might want to adjust your tagnavi.config |
| 00:23:16 | JdGroid | That disappears if the akin buffer is used and its only for skins |
| 00:23:33 | mamoul | bluebroth3r: oic |
| 00:24:41 | mamoul | these codes are confusing |
| 00:25:12 | bluebroth3r | the order of the playback is determined by the "folder" you're viewing. So obviously if the sorting in that "folder" is not what you expect the playlist won't be either |
| 00:25:31 | bluebroth3r | well, I usually don't use the database ;-) |
| 00:25:36 | mamoul | well yeah |
| 00:25:40 | mamoul | the files are named sortably |
| 00:25:47 | mamoul | but I was referring to the tags / database view |
| 00:25:49 | gevaerts | JdGroid: I don't like the idea of "only for skins". Is there a reason why a font that's loaded in the skin buffer can't be used by anything else? |
| 00:26:14 | JdGroid | Where else should it be available? |
| 00:26:31 | mamoul | I can fix it by just deleting the track tags in the files and rockbox will default to sorting by file name |
| 00:26:35 | JdGroid | The hi should nit require more than one user font |
| 00:27:04 | bluebroth3r | mamoul: that's not a fix, that's rather a workaround |
| 00:27:14 | mamoul | yeap |
| 00:28:07 | gevaerts | mamoul: have you seen http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/DataBase#tagnavi_config_v2_0_Syntax ? |
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| 00:29:06 | TheSeven | linuxstb: Success! I have a modified version of iLoader up and running that boots directly from NOR and is capable of loading iBugger, Rockbox and disk mode |
| 00:29:20 | gevaerts | JdGordon: maybe a system where whichever bit of code needs more or different fonts can load one if it provides a buffer could work. The skin buffer one could be one case of that |
| 00:29:32 | * | gevaerts hasn't thought through it all yet |
| 00:29:59 | mamoul | gevaerts: very confusing |
| 00:31:07 | TheSeven | so what's left? a better user interface, a better clickwheel driver, a proper automated idiot-proof installation, uninstallation and recovery method, a full FTL fsck, very thorough testing, and finally a hell of a lot of documentation |
| 00:33:52 | mamoul | I could split the mp3's into two "discs" |
| 00:34:09 | gevaerts | mamoul: if I understand things correctly, you just have to change the first %02d on lines 9 and 10 in tagnavi.config with %03d (the two first "fmt_title" lines) (only the first %02d). That should do what you want, except that tagnavi.config is overwritten during upgrades, so you'd have to do it again every now and then |
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| 00:34:49 | gevaerts | To fix that, you need to use tagnavi_custom.config, but I'm not entirely sure how |
| 00:35:00 | mamoul | yes |
| 00:35:25 | gevaerts | Possibly you just have to copy those same two lines to tagnavi_custom.config (with the proper 2->3 change of course), but I really don't know |
| 00:36:44 | gevaerts | %02d means "%" for "this is a formatting bit", "d" for "it's a number", "0" for "pad with zeros (i.e. 01 instead of 1), and "2" for "make the numbers two digits wide" |
| 00:41:03 | mamoul | I'll try it |
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| 01:10:57 | CIA-88 | New commit by stripwax (r24557): A few more tweaks |
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| 01:35:13 | JdGroid | Gevaerts: yeah but still I wouldn't expect anything in the core to want more fonts than the one ui font |
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| 01:40:53 | TheSeven | wow, new record! rockbox fully booted in 4.5 seconds on nano2g! |
| 01:41:32 | TheSeven | (using iloader) |
| 01:41:41 | TheSeven | i doubt the rockbox bootloader can beat that ;-) |
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| 01:52:01 | Unhelpful | TheSeven: then improve the rb bootloader ;) |
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| 01:52:24 | TheSeven | no, i'll further improve iloader :-) |
| 01:52:44 | akur | how is the tagnavi.config generated? |
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| 01:54:46 | TheSeven | the rockbox bootloader is lacking some important features that i really need, like the ability to have several different boot options, which don't seem to be appreciated much here... |
| 01:55:21 | * | S_a_i_n_t would *love* to have a boot option other than rb & of..... |
| 01:55:28 | S_a_i_n_t | but I guess that's off-topic |
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| 01:56:40 | pixelma | JdGordon: the drawing problem with the built-in statusbar on my M5 is not there without the radio screen patch and the same revision and SVN also boots and runs on my Ondio |
| 01:57:17 | JdGroid | OK cool. Thanks |
| 01:57:33 | pixelma | rechecked once more with the M5 and a patched build, didn't want to test the Ondio build again |
| 01:58:27 | JdGroid | I'm more worried about ondio because I can't test that |
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| 02:30:57 | FlynDice | Is there an easy way to jump to the reset vector at a spot in the code I choose? arm as3525 AMSSansa..... |
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| 02:32:51 | FlynDice | kugel: ping ^^ |
| 02:33:41 | kugel | uhm |
| 02:33:59 | kugel | sure, do you know the address? |
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| 02:34:25 | FlynDice | isn't it at 0x00000000? |
| 02:34:41 | kugel | I don't know |
| 02:35:16 | FlynDice | well what's the easiest way to jump to it when i figure out the address? |
| 02:35:30 | kugel | you could try asm volatile(ldr pc, =0x0); |
| 02:36:05 | FlynDice | That sounds reasonable, thanks ;) |
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| 02:38:28 | kugel | asm volatile("ldr pc, =0x0\n"); rather |
| 02:42:43 | Unhelpful | couldn't you just do ((void(*)(void))0xdeadbeef)(); ? |
| 02:43:10 | Unhelpful | might wanna add a noreturn just to make sure gcc knows any code after it is dead |
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| 02:46:28 | FlynDice | Well maybe I can just use system_reboot() instead. No buttonlight on clip+ and I think I can feel around a bit by using delays and makeing it reboot where I want to see if the code has gotten to that point yet. |
| 02:48:13 | kugel | too bad that there's no button or backlight |
| 02:48:43 | kugel | I wonder why funman had backlight code for the clipv2 (which works on the fuzev2 as well) |
| 02:50:19 | FlynDice | I think it has something to do with the clip+ using SSP instead of dbop for the lcd output |
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| 03:29:01 | * | S_a_i_n_t has an idea for Rockboxed iPods, but wonders if its a: practical, and b: possible to implement. |
| 03:29:07 | S_a_i_n_t | If one wants to charge the player, but also wants to keep using it (listen to music etc.) the solution is to hold down Menu whilst plugging in the USB/Dock Connector. However, holding menu down also brings up the quickscreen and its not immediately apparent (without prior knowledge of the function) that one is able to connect the charger/USB at this point and continue to use the ipod whilst charging. |
| 03:29:14 | S_a_i_n_t | My suggestion is this: After Menu has been held down for a specified time (1~2 seconds or so) it should cease to display the quickscreen options, and display something (splash screen, notification) along the line of "Charging mode enabled, press any key to exit...", and if no charger is inserted or no button is pressed (after 'X' period of time) the player should revert back to the menu screen. |
| 03:29:20 | S_a_i_n_t | Comments? |
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| 03:32:44 | funman | FlynDice: can you try somethign on Clip+ ? |
| 03:35:43 | CIA-88 | New commit by funman (r24558): Sansa Clip+ has no button light |
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| 03:39:07 | funman | FlynDice: http://pastie.org/814133 , not sure if the ascodec_write to regs 0x25 & 0x1c are needed |
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| 04:36:54 | CIA-88 | New commit by funman (r24559): Sansa Clip+: use correct SSP settings |
| 04:42:52 | funman | OF seems to use DMA for LCD transfers |
| 04:43:07 | funman | that explains why i didn't see a lcd_write_data function |
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| 04:56:17 | FlynDice | funman: Busy right now I'll try it in about an hour, I tried calling system_reboot() first in the bootloader to see if I was making it that far but it wouldn't reboot for me :( |
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| 05:05:54 | funman | hm my clipv2 doesn't respond anymore :/ |
| 05:06:24 | Strife89palm | funman: Even if you hold down the power button? |
| 05:06:32 | funman | yes |
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| 05:06:58 | funman | when tampering with my clipv1 sometimes it was necessary to wait for the battery to empty, somehow the power button wouldn't have any effect |
| 05:07:08 | Strife89|PalmTX | Ouch. |
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| 05:13:13 | funman | but it might well just be bricked :/ |
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| 05:22:39 | n1s | stripwax: saratoga: just a though that struck me: the codeclib is built with core compiler options currently (Os on Coldfire and O1 on arm) playing with that might be interesting, IIRC it doesn't make any real diff in the old mdct lib but the new one might benefit |
| 05:22:50 | n1s | s/though/thought/ |
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| 05:24:53 | S_a_i_n_t | Anyone able to field a .icons file question? |
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| 05:26:45 | S_a_i_n_t | in viewers.config the format is comma seperated (ext,viewers/*viewer,*0), but in the .icons file the format is ext:0 |
| 05:27:42 | S_a_i_n_t | my question is, in an icons file, can viewers be specified by viewers/viewer:0 ? |
| 05:27:54 | saratoga | n1s: IIRC Unhelpful tested the current lib with other flags on arm |
| 05:28:08 | saratoga | but yeah the new lib is using -O1 I think |
| 05:28:18 | n1s | ah, ok |
| 05:28:40 | saratoga | IME gcc's optimizer had endless trouble with the mdct code, so I'm not optimistic it will help |
| 05:28:54 | saratoga | -O2 was actually worse for fft4 when I tried it |
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| 05:29:07 | saratoga | but its worth a shot |
| 05:33:42 | saratoga | given how important the mdct is, and how relatively small the actual performance sensitive parts are, I expect in the end it'll all be rewritten in ASM |
| 05:35:26 | JdGordon | S_a_i_n_t: you'd have to look at the code to see what it all means |
| 05:35:30 | JdGordon | I dont remeber that code at all |
| 05:35:55 | JdGordon | I think its ext:num where num is the icon number in the usual strip |
| 05:36:18 | JdGordon | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomIcons |
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| 05:38:35 | S_a_i_n_t | thanks JdGordon, what I'm wondering about is the viewers icons... I know about the extensions, but I'm wondering about the viewers. What I mean is, in viewers.config the format is ext,(apps/games/viewers)/viewer,0-1-2 etc. |
| 05:39:00 | S_a_i_n_t | but in iconsetname.icons it's ext:0-1-2 etc |
| 05:39:31 | S_a_i_n_t | I'm wondering if I could specify viewers/viewer:0-1-2 etc in the .icons file |
| 05:39:43 | S_a_i_n_t | ie. not have to edit viewers.config |
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| 05:40:35 | JdGordon | I dont remember what the precendence order is between those two files |
| 05:40:37 | JdGordon | check icons.c |
| 05:40:45 | JdGordon | filetypes.c i mean |
| 05:41:25 | S_a_i_n_t | unless it stuck out like a sore thumb, I'm not sure that'd tell me much. |
| 05:41:32 | * | S_a_i_n_t is still not a coder... |
| 05:42:34 | JdGordon | in that case.... just try it out and see what works? |
| 05:43:15 | * | JdGordon doesnt remember how that code works at all |
| 05:45:01 | S_a_i_n_t | the problem I'm having is this: I've changed *every* icon in the iconset with the same image, and made an iconsetname.icons file that points every ext to the same viewer icon but some/most of the viewers show no icon at all...so I'm guessing that the .icons file takes precedence over the viewers.config file, I'm just unsure how to specify a viewers icon in the .icons file. |
| 05:45:19 | S_a_i_n_t | I guess I'm gonna try viewers/viewer:0 |
| 05:45:39 | S_a_i_n_t | and games/game:0 |
| 05:45:41 | S_a_i_n_t | etc |
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| 06:11:34 | CIA-88 | New commit by jdgordon (r24560): fix FS #10957 - the wps backdrop is always shown in the "create bookmark?" ask screen (Actual fix is to always enable the theme in the yesno screen) |
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| 06:41:32 | * | JdGordon wants to break backwards compatibility with the lang files |
| 06:42:06 | JdGordon | whats a half decent name for the string "Station:" in the fm screen? LANG_FM_STATION is the current label but I need to deprecate it |
| 06:46:12 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon: http://pastebin.com/d44168d3e |
| 06:46:38 | S_a_i_n_t | it didn't work, I don't want to edit viewers.config as I want to distribute it as a theme. |
| 06:46:49 | S_a_i_n_t | I've no idea how to do it though.... >:{ |
| 06:47:23 | * | JdGordon 's mind is elsewhere at the moment |
| 06:47:28 | JdGordon | I suggest digging into the code |
| 06:47:32 | JdGordon | or ignoring it :p |
| 06:47:35 | wind | Who can tell me how to use my own fonts in a lua program? |
| 06:48:04 | S_a_i_n_t | the extensions all work fine, but the viewer icons are just solid black squares...(no idea where it's getting those from though.) |
| 06:50:33 | S_a_i_n_t | it seems really fucked up to me though, as all my icons in the iconset are the same...so regardless what icon the viewers.config file points to...it should be the same, but none is displayed. I believe something is quite wrong in the icons department. |
| 06:51:32 | JdGordon | wind: you cant |
| 06:51:44 | wind | why? |
| 06:52:10 | JdGordon | rockbox can only handle one user font and the inbuilt system font. There is no provision for plugins to load a new font |
| 06:52:17 | JdGordon | and especially not load more than one |
| 06:52:21 | JdGordon | (not yet anyway) |
| 06:54:47 | wind | Can I change rb.font when I write the program? |
| 06:55:11 | JdGordon | how many fonts do you want? just one? |
| 06:56:57 | wind | I just want to use Chinese in the lua program. |
| 06:57:05 | wind | Can I? |
| 06:58:09 | JdGordon | if the loaded font has the characters then yes. I dont know how much control lua has. If you use a theme with chinese fonts then lua will just work |
| 06:58:18 | * | JdGordon assumes this anyway |
| 06:58:30 | wind | If I set A.font=a.fnt,could it work? |
| 06:58:56 | FlynDice | funman:(for the logs) No difference on clip+ with the ascdec_write mod |
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| 07:02:30 | JdGordon | wind: I dont know LUA at all, but it looks like if you set the viewport font (rb.set_viewport()) to 1 it should just work |
| 07:03:48 | wind | <JdGordon>:I will try.Thanks. |
| 07:04:15 | JdGordon | good luck! |
| 07:09:20 | S_a_i_n_t | well, it doesn't seem like viewer icons can be specified by the .icons file....but I still don't see how I'm having the problem that I'm having. All the icons in my iconset (all 32 images) are exactly the same, my viewers iconset is only 1 image also, which again is exactly the same as the main iconset image. So to me, it stands to reason that the viewers, games, apps, exts....*everything* should have the same icon, but the viewers still seem to be tryi |
| 07:09:27 | S_a_i_n_t | I don;t see why this is happening. |
| 07:09:34 | S_a_i_n_t | >:-[ |
| 07:14:41 | JdGordon | what does your .icons file look like? |
| 07:15:09 | S_a_i_n_t | check out the pastie from earlier |
| 07:15:28 | S_a_i_n_t | I've cut the games/apps/viewers section on the bottom now though |
| 07:15:32 | S_a_i_n_t | as that doesn't work |
| 07:15:55 | JdGordon | hat icon does it show? |
| 07:16:13 | S_a_i_n_t | the only way I've been able to do it (so far) is editing the viewers.config file...which I don;t want to do as then I can;t distribute it as a theme |
| 07:16:26 | JdGordon | what does it show otherwsie? |
| 07:16:51 | S_a_i_n_t | the viewers that don't have an icon have a solid black square...no idea where its getting that from though |
| 07:17:02 | S_a_i_n_t | I just have the tango icons, and my iconset |
| 07:18:43 | S_a_i_n_t | I'm going to upload my iconset now, see if someone else can try it and see if they have the same result |
| 07:19:08 | * | JdGordon WTF's |
| 07:20:01 | S_a_i_n_t | http://www.datafilehost.com/download-dbf9f87b.html |
| 07:20:44 | S_a_i_n_t | for all intents and purposes...the viewers icons should all be the same, as they *should* be taken from my iconset..... |
| 07:20:49 | JdGordon | the .icons file is never loaded |
| 07:20:54 | S_a_i_n_t | but it just *doesn't display them |
| 07:21:13 | S_a_i_n_t | it isn't?!? |
| 07:21:28 | JdGordon | I dont tihnk so |
| 07:21:38 | JdGordon | either way the setting is saved incorrectly in the cfg |
| 07:21:51 | S_a_i_n_t | well....the extensions I specify are given the correct icons.... |
| 07:22:10 | JdGordon | since 18864 apparently! |
| 07:22:12 | S_a_i_n_t | actually, that'd be hard to tell, as the main iconset and the viewers are all the same |
| 07:22:18 | S_a_i_n_t | I'll experiment |
| 07:22:21 | JdGordon | what does your config.cfg look like? |
| 07:22:31 | S_a_i_n_t | default |
| 07:22:39 | JdGordon | the .icons line |
| 07:22:44 | S_a_i_n_t | just made a .cfg to change the iconset |
| 07:23:12 | S_a_i_n_t | Have I found something funky? |
| 07:23:29 | JdGordon | whats the cfg line you added |
| 07:25:08 | S_a_i_n_t | iconset: Symmetry 0.9.1 [beta] Icons.bmp |
| 07:25:09 | S_a_i_n_t | viewers iconset: /.rockbox/icons/Symmetry 0.9.1 [beta] Viewers.bmp |
| 07:25:28 | S_a_i_n_t | thats it... |
| 07:25:44 | JdGordon | you dont have a line for the .icons? |
| 07:26:04 | S_a_i_n_t | you don't need one...not in the .cfg |
| 07:26:10 | S_a_i_n_t | isn;t it autoloaded? |
| 07:26:17 | JdGordon | is it? |
| 07:26:24 | S_a_i_n_t | pretty sure |
| 07:26:32 | JdGordon | it goes by the same name as the bmp? |
| 07:26:57 | S_a_i_n_t | yes, it needs to be the same name as the main iconset |
| 07:27:03 | S_a_i_n_t | but with .icons ext |
| 07:27:10 | S_a_i_n_t | then it *should* autooad |
| 07:27:30 | JdGordon | is that mentioned anywhere? |
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| 07:27:41 | S_a_i_n_t | the page you linked me earlier |
| 07:27:51 | JdGordon | ah yes, I see now |
| 07:27:57 | JdGordon | ok, so the code isnt wrong |
| 07:28:01 | JdGordon | it should just work then |
| 07:28:39 | S_a_i_n_t | did you try my iconset by any chance? |
| 07:28:49 | S_a_i_n_t | I don;t see any reason why it doesn;t work ... |
| 07:29:42 | * | JdGordon is going to figure this out! |
| 07:29:43 | S_a_i_n_t | everything looks fine until you try "open with" and then almost *nothing* has an icon..yet it should, as far as I can see it. |
| 07:30:06 | S_a_i_n_t | the only way I can pull it off was to edit viewers.config to all point to 0 |
| 07:30:07 | JdGordon | black means no icon found |
| 07:30:45 | S_a_i_n_t | well, you can see my iconset...(in the datafilehost link) theyre all there...32 right? |
| 07:31:13 | S_a_i_n_t | and the viewers iconset is just one icon... |
| 07:31:51 | S_a_i_n_t | which every .ext in the .icons file points to....they all seem fine, but the viewers icons are all screwy |
| 07:32:34 | JdGordon | Next the viewers.config file is read. The main purpose of this file is to make sure the build script copies plugins into the correct folder and to add "support" for file types which are not in tree.c. So, this means that icons for already known file types are ignored in this file. Users should never edit this file as part of an icon set. |
| 07:33:00 | JdGordon | this is all messed up |
| 07:34:37 | * | JdGordon got it working! |
| 07:34:41 | JdGordon | you suck! :D |
| 07:34:45 | S_a_i_n_t | you did? how? |
| 07:34:53 | JdGordon | by reading the instrcutions :D |
| 07:35:03 | S_a_i_n_t | what did I do wrong? |
| 07:35:17 | JdGordon | the .icons needs to be the filename of the *viewers*.bmp file |
| 07:35:25 | JdGordon | not the main icons set file |
| 07:35:37 | S_a_i_n_t | aha... |
| 07:35:43 | S_a_i_n_t | *slaps forhead* |
| 07:35:57 | JdGordon | and its only extensions, not plugin names |
| 07:37:20 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 07:37:46 | S_a_i_n_t | yeah, I figured out that much...for that I still need to edit the viewers.config file (which sucks! IMO) |
| 07:39:12 | JdGordon | no you dont |
| 07:39:17 | JdGordon | you're doing it wrong if you do |
| 07:39:43 | JdGordon | hmm... ok so you do |
| 07:40:00 | * | JdGordon chekcs where those icons comes from |
| 07:40:12 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon: from the wiki "The ".icons" File |
| 07:40:14 | S_a_i_n_t | When a file type/viewers icon set is loaded, it checks the /.rockbox/icons/ folder for a file with the same name as the main icon set but with the extension .icons instead of .bmp. " |
| 07:41:11 | S_a_i_n_t | I take "main iconset" to mean the iconset, not the viewers iconset... |
| 07:43:06 | JdGordon | it looks like the open with list should get its icons from the extension which lists the plugin first (i.e txt and colours etc all specify the text_editor, the first one will have its icon for the text_editor plugin) |
| 07:43:48 | CIA-88 | New commit by FlynDice (r24561): Sansa Clip+ : Add dualboot support for sansa clip+ to mkamsboot. ... |
| 07:46:16 | S_a_i_n_t | did you check the iconset I uploaded....my .icons file *IS* the same name as the viewers.bpm....!?! |
| 07:46:29 | JdGordon | nup |
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| 07:57:35 | S_a_i_n_t | going by the wiki, the .icons file should be named after the "main" iconset (from what I gather, this isn't the viewers icons, but the primary iconset) so if the main iconset is iconset.bmp then the .icons file needs to be called iconset.icons. In my .icons file I have every (I think) icon that my target can possibly use...but the viewers still appear as solid black squares...this is driving me NUCKING FUTS!!! |
| 07:58:22 | S_a_i_n_t | s/every (I think) icon/every (I think) .ext |
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| 08:01:30 | S_a_i_n_t | nope...it's bad wording on the wiki...ok so it is supposed to be names after the viewers.bmp file, and so it'd be viewers.icons. |
| 08:01:41 | S_a_i_n_t | but I've tried both, and neither seems to work. |
| 08:04:44 | S_a_i_n_t | by that logic.... http://www.datafilehost.com/download-095733ee.html should work absolutely fine...but it doesn't!!! there aren't any icons for the viewers at all. |
| 08:10:53 | JdGordon | pixelma: hey, I've updated the radio skin patch, can you try it again please? |
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| 08:19:53 | pixelma | JdGordon: not until the evening which is at least 10 hours to go |
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| 08:21:25 | flyback | omg |
| 08:21:29 | flyback | this is awesome |
| 08:21:41 | * | flyback bows down and does the caveman sun god worship |
| 08:21:43 | flyback | OOOGAH |
| 08:21:44 | flyback | OOOGAH |
| 08:22:24 | flyback | wow is this cool |
| 08:22:29 | flyback | espically the debug info page |
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| 08:22:49 | flyback | see you guys already have the framework almost to dump the disk smart info after all |
| 08:22:59 | flyback | really nice job from what I am seeing, thx a lot :) |
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| 08:45:28 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon: Ok man, something *IS* wrong with the .icons stuff I swear....if not, I'm going to feel like a REAL idiot. but could you/someone *please* look at this? this is the link to the iconset I'm using, for the life of me I can't see anything wrong with it http://www.datafilehost.com/download-095733ee.html and this is the screendump of the result, note there are no viewer icons, and only some have the black background http://imgur.com/yazm1.png |
| 08:46:23 | JdGordon | the open with screen is wierd... but the icons everywhere else works right? |
| 08:48:39 | S_a_i_n_t | yes. |
| 08:49:00 | S_a_i_n_t | something's definately messed up |
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| 08:49:53 | S_a_i_n_t | In theory...everything should be the little blue dot....and I mean everything, but it isn't |
| 08:49:58 | S_a_i_n_t | and I don;t know why. |
| 08:50:20 | JdGordon | file a bug |
| 08:50:31 | S_a_i_n_t | Ok, will do. |
| 08:50:50 | S_a_i_n_t | I just needed to run ann "idiot-check" first... |
| 08:56:26 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon: what catagory would this bug fall into? |
| 08:57:26 | JdGordon | user interface |
| 08:57:46 | JdGordon | Zagor: can you change the WPS category on the tracker to "themes" please? |
| 08:57:52 | JdGordon | or skins or something |
| 08:58:04 | Zagor | sure |
| 08:58:27 | rasher | Zagor: can you add a category for the theme site and maybe translation site? |
| 08:58:39 | Zagor | ok |
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| 09:00:20 | * | pixelma recently missed some targets in the categories |
| 09:00:31 | pixelma | I remember Iaudio M5 and M3 |
| 09:02:15 | Zagor | pixelma: added |
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| 09:13:14 | perfectdrug | Zagor: while at it, rbutil 1.2.4 needs also to be added for "due in version" and "reported version" |
| 09:13:54 | rasher | And add Rockbox 3.5 |
| 09:13:54 | CIA-88 | New commit by funman (r24562): Add DMA line for SSP as used in Clip+ |
| 09:14:25 | S_a_i_n_t | FS #10981 -" Viewers icons applied incorrectly" has been added. |
| 09:15:04 | perfectdrug | rockbox 3.5 is in but it says release 3.5 and 3.4 but VERSION 3.3 is this intended? |
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| 09:15:32 | Zagor | no, there's been some confusion by the presence of both "release" and "version" strings |
| 09:16:20 | Zagor | I think "version" is better. Or should we simply call it "Rockbox vy.z"? |
| 09:16:56 | AlexP | JdGordon: Still there? |
| 09:18:10 | JdGordon | aye |
| 09:18:10 | perfectdrug | Zagor, would go along with the frontpage at least |
| 09:18:21 | AlexP | JdGordon: Looking at your comment, I don't quite understand. So I want the menu/file list/whatever to draw inside a smaler box - i.e. not extend to the screen edge in x. Your comment seems to suggest that the WPS then has to have the same limitation - i.e. I can't draw to the screen edge if I don't in the menus? |
| 09:19:36 | JdGordon | %V is always screen relative, there is nothing forcing you to stay inside the %Vi in the wps. |
| 09:19:47 | AlexP | But that is what to me your comment said |
| 09:20:07 | AlexP | JdGordon: "which means the 'x' viewport in the wps is drawing outside of the %Vi viewport which means it is expected to break." |
| 09:20:30 | AlexP | I want the viewports in the WPS to draw outside the UI viewport |
| 09:20:42 | JdGordon | were you expecting that the viewport in the wps gets shrunk to fit inside the %Vi? |
| 09:20:44 | CIA-88 | New commit by funman (r24563): Sansa Clip+: use 8 bits transfers, like DMA transfers ... |
| 09:20:57 | AlexP | JdGordon: No, I was expecting %Vi to get ignored in the WPS |
| 09:21:18 | AlexP | i.e. it affects where menus etc. draw, but doesn't limit me in the WPS |
| 09:22:10 | JdGordon | if you put %wd in then the entire sbs is disabled, otherwise the default viewport is %Vi, otherwise its ignored, but the areas the sbs uses will get drawn over |
| 09:22:50 | JdGordon | it used to work right? |
| 09:23:06 | AlexP | OK, so I want the sbs enabled, and then to use all the space that isn't defined in the .sbs, which is bigger than the UI viewport |
| 09:23:30 | JdGordon | you want the wps text to entend the whole thing? |
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| 09:23:38 | * | JdGordon english starting to fail :p |
| 09:23:51 | AlexP | JdGordon: Not quite - let me start again :) |
| 09:24:02 | JdGordon | you want it inside the border? |
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| 09:25:54 | AlexP | JdGordon: The sbs consists of a strip at the top the entire screen width, and a strip at the bottom of the entire screen width. These are "reserved" - I want them to always show. In the menu, their "bakdrop" comes from the full screen backdrop. This leaves a section inbetween these two strips. In the WPS, I want to use this entire area. In the menus, I want to draw inside a smaller box, that isn't the entire screen width. |
| 09:26:03 | AlexP | JdGordon: I'll get a couple of pictures to help |
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| 09:27:08 | AlexP | JdGordon: http://aeparker.com/files/menu.bmp This is the menu. The sbs consists of the time at the top and the progress bar etc. at the bottom. The UI viewport is set to inside the black box |
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| 09:28:39 | AlexP | JdGordon: http://aeparker.com/files/wpsbackdrop.bmp This is the WPS backdrop. The .sbs elements should still draw as before, but now I want to use the entire area inbetween them, and not just the area that was previously bounded by the black box |
| 09:30:33 | * | AlexP hopes he is somewhat understandable :) |
| 09:30:47 | JdGordon | show me a pic of what the WPS should look like |
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| 09:30:55 | AlexP | One mo |
| 09:32:06 | CIA-88 | New commit by jdgordon (r24564): set the default backlight timeout to "on" in the sim |
| 09:32:14 | AlexP | JdGordon: http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=256&target=gigabeats and this is what it does look like: http://aeparker.com/files/wps-glitch.bmp |
| 09:33:35 | JdGordon | oooohhhh. right ok |
| 09:33:48 | JdGordon | umm |
| 09:33:52 | AlexP | It looks like the WPS backdrop is only loading where there is a viewport (the ui viewport, or one I have declared in the WPS) but not over the whole screen |
| 09:34:03 | JdGordon | yes |
| 09:34:22 | JdGordon | this changed with the not-so-nice change I did last week |
| 09:34:31 | AlexP | JdGordon: I was going from " For the WPS, all lines before the first viewport declaration are drawn in the default (full-screen) viewport," on the CustomWPS page |
| 09:35:03 | AlexP | And the first thing I do is declare the WPS backdrop |
| 09:35:03 | JdGordon | the default viewport if the sbs is enabled is the %Vi viewport |
| 09:35:08 | AlexP | OK |
| 09:35:21 | AlexP | That explains one thing, and should be added to the wiki (I can do that) |
| 09:35:38 | AlexP | But how do I now get the WPS background to draw over the whole screen? |
| 09:37:23 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 09:52:09 | DEBUG | EOF from server (Network is unreachable) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 545) |
| 09:52:09 | *** | Cleanup |
| 09:52:09 | *** | Cleanup |
| 09:52:09 | *** | No seen item changed, no save performed. |
| 09:52:09 | *** | Exit |
| 09:52:11 | *** | Started Dancer V4.16 |
| 09:52:11 | DEBUG | gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Success) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) |
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| 09:52:11 | DEBUG | gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Success) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) |
| 09:52:11 | DEBUG | gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Success) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) |
| 09:52:11 | *** | Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times) |
| 09:52:11 | *** | Cleanup |
| 09:52:11 | *** | Cleanup |
| 09:52:11 | *** | No seen item changed, no save performed. |
| 09:52:11 | *** | Exit |
| 09:53:52 | *** | Started Dancer V4.16 |
| 09:53:52 | DEBUG | gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Success) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) |
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| 09:53:52 | DEBUG | gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Success) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) |
| 09:53:52 | DEBUG | gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Success) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) |
| 09:53:52 | *** | Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times) |
| 09:53:52 | *** | Cleanup |
| 09:53:52 | *** | Cleanup |
| 09:53:52 | *** | No seen item changed, no save performed. |
| 09:53:52 | *** | Exit |
| 09:55:39 | *** | Started Dancer V4.16 |
| 09:55:39 | DEBUG | gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Success) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) |
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| 09:55:39 | DEBUG | gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Success) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) |
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| 09:55:39 | DEBUG | gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Success) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) |
| 09:55:39 | DEBUG | gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Success) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) |
| 09:55:39 | *** | Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times) |
| 09:55:39 | *** | Cleanup |
| 09:55:39 | *** | Cleanup |
| 09:55:39 | *** | No seen item changed, no save performed. |
| 09:55:39 | *** | Exit |
| 09:57:21 | *** | Started Dancer V4.16 |
| 09:57:21 | DEBUG | gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Success) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) |
| 09:57:21 | DEBUG | gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Success) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) |
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| 09:57:21 | DEBUG | gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Success) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) |
| 09:57:21 | *** | Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times) |
| 09:57:21 | *** | Cleanup |
| 09:57:21 | *** | Cleanup |
| 09:57:21 | *** | No seen item changed, no save performed. |
| 09:57:21 | *** | Exit |
| 09:59:00 | *** | Started Dancer V4.16 |
| 09:59:00 | DEBUG | gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Success) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) |
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| 09:59:00 | DEBUG | gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Success) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) |
| 09:59:00 | *** | Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times) |
| 09:59:00 | *** | Cleanup |
| 09:59:00 | *** | Cleanup |
| 09:59:00 | *** | No seen item changed, no save performed. |
| 09:59:00 | *** | Exit |
| 10:00 |
| 10:00:47 | *** | Started Dancer V4.16 |
| 10:00:47 | DEBUG | gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Success) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) |
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| 10:00:47 | *** | Unable to connect to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times) |
| 10:00:47 | *** | Cleanup |
| 10:00:47 | *** | Cleanup |
| 10:00:47 | *** | No seen item changed, no save performed. |
| 10:00:47 | *** | Exit |
| 10:02:29 | *** | Started Dancer V4.16 |
| 10:02:29 | DEBUG | gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.freenode.net (Success) (snapshot: netstuff.c line 99) |
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| 10:13:21 | S_a_i_n_t | I figure it must be this line...can someone with a brain (JdGordon/pixelma I'm looking in your direction) tell me what's wrong with this? http://pastebin.com/mcd420b7 |
| 10:15:31 | S_a_i_n_t | hahah...found it |
| 10:15:57 | S_a_i_n_t | %XdDa.....Blargh... |
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| 10:22:20 | S_a_i_n_t | nope....I'm still messing it up. " http://pastebin.com/m1197ffe8 " little help anyone? |
| 10:23:05 | JdGordon | whats the problem? |
| 10:23:24 | * | JdGordon is almost ashamed to admit he cant actually understand skin code! :D |
| 10:23:43 | S_a_i_n_t | it says unclosed conditional |
| 10:23:49 | S_a_i_n_t | but I just can't see it |
| 10:24:40 | S_a_i_n_t | I thought you were like Mr. GUI guy? |
| 10:26:45 | S_a_i_n_t | to me, that line *should* read "if charging, display this animation. if not, display the battery level indicator" |
| 10:27:02 | perfectdrug | S_a_i_n_t: i think there shouldn't be spaces behind the t tag |
| 10:27:52 | S_a_i_n_t | there can be, it doesn't matter...well, I don;t think it does...the same code works in other places on the same wps |
| 10:28:03 | S_a_i_n_t | is that all you can see wrong with it? |
| 10:30:15 | S_a_i_n_t | perfectdrug: same error with or without spaces behind the %t tag |
| 10:30:21 | pixelma | you can't put %t inside a conditional |
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| 10:30:29 | S_a_i_n_t | I'm pretty sure you can have a space there if you wan't, |
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| 10:30:51 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: you can't? huh... |
| 10:31:58 | pixelma | I think it worked before the tokenizer which is in for years already though |
| 10:32:36 | S_a_i_n_t | thatnks pixelma: I think I know how I have to do it now. |
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| 10:37:10 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: it makes for a fairly long line...but I'd need to do it like " %t0.5 <%xdDa|%?bl<-|%xdDa|%xdDb|%xdDc|%xdDd|%xdDe|%xdDf|%xdDg|%xdDh|%xdDi|%xdDj>;%t0.5 <%xdDb|%?bl<-|%xdDa|%xdDb|%xdDc|%xdDd|%xdDe|%xdDf|%xdDg|%xdDh|%xdDi|%xdDj>;etc, etc." |
| 10:37:12 | S_a_i_n_t | correct? |
| 10:38:05 | CIA-88 | New commit by jdgordon (r24565): revert r24478 and make the backdrop behaviour the same as it used to be (so when in the wps the sbs' backdrop will be fully disabled). Also changes ... |
| 10:38:25 | JdGordon | AlexP: kugel(your theme): that commit fixes it all |
| 10:38:36 | pixelma | S_a_i_n_t: didn't look in detail but in principle yes |
| 10:39:02 | pixelma | eh |
| 10:39:41 | S_a_i_n_t | thanks...it'l be a BLOODY long line...hehe 10 subimages in a bitmap strip displayed in animation, conditional on charging. |
| 10:39:50 | pixelma | I thought the menu backdrop would be used if the WPS doesn't specify an own (even before SBS) |
| 10:40:24 | JdGordon | the *setting* backdrop is used |
| 10:40:39 | JdGordon | the sbs can set a backdrop also which isnt the setting one if it wants |
| 10:41:10 | * | S_a_i_n_t has found it too hard to keep up with what the sbs/wps does with backdrops..so decided to wait to learn about it 'til Jd is finished playing with it :P |
| 10:41:43 | JdGordon | probaly a good idea |
| 10:42:22 | S_a_i_n_t | every time I decide to make an sbs for my current theme, something changes :P |
| 10:42:36 | S_a_i_n_t | but it's given me a lot of time to refine my theme at least :D |
| 10:42:54 | gevaerts | S_a_i_n_t: you mean, never again make another theme? JdGordon isn't likely to stop... |
| 10:43:00 | JdGordon | right! time to branch for 3.6, its stable now |
| 10:43:39 | JdGordon | arg, fixing bugs at 2am isnt a good idea |
| 10:44:25 | S_a_i_n_t | gevaerts: HEHE :P he may not *stop* persay, but he's bound to get distracted by something else for long enough for me to put out an .sbs eventually :P |
| 10:44:33 | S_a_i_n_t | I'll play the waiting game |
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| 10:47:09 | CIA-88 | New commit by jdgordon (r24566): fix red. these long #if's need to be changed to a single #define |
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| 10:53:53 | kugel | JdGordon: dosn't that make plugins bad again? |
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| 10:59:48 | JdGordon | kugel: (I'm not here right now), yes, but a simple set_backdrop(sb_get_backdrop()) before disabling the theme in plugin.c should fix that |
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| 11:00:33 | AlexP | JdGordon: Ta, I'll have a play tonight :) |
| 11:01:05 | kugel | JdGordon: what doesn't it work in theme_enable()? |
| 11:01:12 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma....are you busy? http://pastebin.com/m3613d97d |
| 11:01:19 | kugel | it works quite well in 3.5 where it's done that way |
| 11:01:26 | pixelma | actually... I should be |
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| 11:01:41 | S_a_i_n_t | I just can't seem to get it right, and it'd F'ing me off!!! |
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| 11:08:28 | pixelma | the third part seems to be missing a > and right afterwards there's a missing < right behind the first %?bc, you can see it nicely due to the different lengths in the pastebin |
| 11:09:32 | S_a_i_n_t | thanks...but other than that it should work? |
| 11:09:50 | S_a_i_n_t | staring at my own code...well, it's easier to see someone elses errors I think |
| 11:14:43 | S_a_i_n_t | Bah.....FFS! Warning: Max number of tokens was reached (1023) |
| 11:14:54 | S_a_i_n_t | I *knew* that line would be a bloat. |
| 11:14:58 | S_a_i_n_t | fuck |
| 11:15:09 | S_a_i_n_t | pardon my french... |
| 11:25:24 | S_a_i_n_t | thanks pixelma, the code is fine now....but the animation doesn't show onscreen for some reason (even though its well within the screen buffer) |
| 11:25:30 | * | S_a_i_n_t sighs |
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| 11:34:26 | pixelma | did you check the coordinates (note that they are relative to the viewport the %xd is in |
| 11:34:30 | pixelma | )? |
| 11:35:52 | S_a_i_n_t | yes, all the coordinates are fine. when there's too much going on on the wps (and this one has a fair few animations to parse) stuff just stops showing up on-screen |
| 11:35:55 | S_a_i_n_t | :( |
| 11:38:21 | S_a_i_n_t | Well, the charge animation calls the same bitmap strip set that the battery does...and that displays fine, the charge anim is supposed to display when charging (obviously), but it just doesn't... |
| 11:40:06 | S_a_i_n_t | yet *another* WPS to add to the fail basket....I keep getting al these wicked idea, then I either find the tags I need don't exist yet, or I push the image buffer *way* too far...or my code ends up so bloated with animation that stuff just starts to dissappear off the screen |
| 11:42:23 | pixelma | did you check for overlapping viewports? |
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| 11:43:03 | S_a_i_n_t | well, no...but as far as I know there aren't any. (not there anyway. |
| 11:43:15 | pixelma | you could perhaps also ask for help in the forums, I don't have much time currently (usually I like the riddles failing WPS are) |
| 11:43:59 | S_a_i_n_t | My last failed WPS....another version of the same one, sits untouched in a long forgotten forum thread |
| 11:44:00 | S_a_i_n_t | lol |
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| 11:53:23 | S_a_i_n_t | It's *very* rare for me to actually have the player running and charging at the same time...but I thought it'd make a nice effect if I ever did. What a terrible mistake *that* was... ;-D |
| 11:57:03 | pixelma | you have an Ipod, right? Does charging status info work with the inbuilt statusbar? I used it for my c200 and it's working fine |
| 11:58:25 | pixelma | "it" = %?bc |
| 11:59:29 | S_a_i_n_t | I don;t use the statusbar...but it's used in cabbie for the ipod nano...so I assume it works fine |
| 11:59:36 | S_a_i_n_t | it's bugging you isn't it? |
| 11:59:37 | S_a_i_n_t | :P |
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| 12:03:31 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: but I gather the WPS (probably even including the .sbs) doesn't have 1100+ tags though....right? |
| 12:03:48 | S_a_i_n_t | I seem to be able to bloat a code *prett8* damn well :P |
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| 12:35:18 | S_a_i_n_t | My Nano seems to have no idea when either a:) the charger is inserted, and b:) it is charging...ie. %bp and %bc tags do not work. Is this known behaviour? |
| 12:35:41 | S_a_i_n_t | Oh, yet it charges fine.....odd. |
| 12:36:30 | linuxstb | S_a_i_n_t: 2g nano? |
| 12:36:37 | S_a_i_n_t | 1st gen |
| 12:36:48 | S_a_i_n_t | haven't tried the 2g as yet |
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| 12:37:35 | S_a_i_n_t | I only just figured it out whilst trying to make a charging animation |
| 12:37:52 | S_a_i_n_t | I assumed it wouldn;t show because I overflowed the image buffer |
| 12:38:27 | S_a_i_n_t | but it turns out that the charging icons for Cabbie 176X132 don;t work either. |
| 12:40:09 | S_a_i_n_t | linuxstb: any ideas? |
| 12:40:45 | S_a_i_n_t | I seem to remember seeing that something in the ipods charging behaviour was changed recently |
| 12:40:45 | linuxstb | S_a_i_n_t: No. |
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| 13:11:55 | S_a_i_n_t | Shit.....apparently the line selector doesn;t support "magic" colour. |
| 13:12:02 | S_a_i_n_t | that's a bit of a bummer |
| 13:14:48 | pixelma | how should it support "magic" colour? |
| 13:15:29 | S_a_i_n_t | I was hoping to be able to make the line selector invisible, so only the text appeared to change |
| 13:15:52 | S_a_i_n_t | but the only way to sdo that is to have primary, secondary and background all the same colour |
| 13:16:54 | S_a_i_n_t | if the line selector supported magenta as a "magic" colour, then changing the background wouldn;t affect the appearence of the theme |
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| 13:24:13 | S_a_i_n_t | I believe I'm going to put "line selector should support "magic" colour" on my wishlist...I don;t see it being too likely that anyone wants a solid bright-pink line selector, so I doubt it'd affect anything adversly, only add more customisation options. |
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| 13:42:14 | Unhelpful | S_a_i_n_t: using the magic color for that is ridiculous. there are drawmodes that don't touch the background already. |
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| 13:59:37 | S_a_i_n_t | I'd hardly say it's ridiculous....you don't agree, that's fine. |
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| 14:46:53 | gevaerts | Is there a way to see an entire translation using the web translation tool? |
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| 14:57:12 | rasher | gevaerts: no |
| 14:57:50 | gevaerts | so to review a translation, the only way is to use the lang files directly? |
| 14:58:14 | rasher | Yes |
| 14:58:20 | gevaerts | ok |
| 14:58:27 | rasher | I don't think you'd gain much by doing it through the tool |
| 14:59:03 | rasher | gevaerts: there's the "problems" page though which might catch some issues automagically |
| 14:59:51 | petur | don't we have a link to a zip with the source on our 'current build' page anymore? |
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| 15:00:57 | gevaerts | rasher: I'm working on getting my Spanish coworker to review things. He actually knew what a "hard knee" is, so I think it might be useful to just have him read through the things. |
| 15:02:12 | kugel | petur: nope |
| 15:02:25 | petur | hmmm we used to have that there |
| 15:02:57 | petur | we don't even offer it fro releases |
| 15:03:00 | petur | *for |
| 15:03:56 | gevaerts | hm, that sounds like a bug. I did build the 7z for it |
| 15:03:57 | petur | and the old releases only contains releases up to 2.5, not the more recent ones |
| 15:04:53 | gevaerts | the other ones are there though, just not linked properly |
| 15:05:09 | petur | http://download.rockbox.org/old_releases/ should be merged into http://download.rockbox.org/release/ |
| 15:05:46 | petur | ah yes, now I see the zip with the sources |
| 15:06:07 | petur | should have a link on the html pages /me thinks |
| 15:06:19 | pixelma | S_a_i_n_t: you could also just use the pointer selector instead |
| 15:08:05 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: I do use the pointer, but I dislike the way it offsets the icons. |
| 15:08:17 | S_a_i_n_t | I'd really like to just see the text change colour |
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| 15:08:46 | S_a_i_n_t | but it's only possible if ls start/end and backdrop are exactly the same colour. |
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| 15:10:53 | pixelma | and if you don't set the line selector to gradient you only need to care about the primary colour (might help a little) |
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| 15:30:51 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: well, yes, that's true...but still. what I'd really like to be able to do is have it so I could change the backdrop a my whim, and not have to change the lineselector colour to match it. And this of cource only works for solid backgrounds...if its an image and not a solid colour...it's just not possinle |
| 15:31:16 | S_a_i_n_t | I actually think a lot of people may find "magic color" in the line selector quite handy |
| 15:31:45 | * | S_a_i_n_t cringes at cource |
| 15:31:48 | S_a_i_n_t | urrrrrrgh. |
| 15:32:07 | pixelma | I don't as I really like to be able to see what is selected |
| 15:32:43 | S_a_i_n_t | and you could...by specifying a different colour for the line selector font |
| 15:34:30 | pixelma | it's not as recognisable (to me at least) |
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| 15:48:20 | wanttoknow | How to use the GB2312 encoding inside lua program？ |
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| 15:53:38 | dionoea | lua doesn't know about character encoding |
| 15:54:21 | dionoea | and I'd ask the question in #lua instead of here (except if you have a rockbox related issue) |
| 15:58:34 | wanttoknow | dionoea:I just want to display Chinese words |
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| 16:01:00 | dionoea | if you use unicode (like utf-8/16) encoding for your lua script rockbox should be able to use it correctly |
| 16:01:05 | wanttoknow | I have already set the font,but the program translate it using UTF-8 encode,so the words cannot display |
| 16:01:58 | dionoea | just make sure that your file is saved as utf 8 |
| 16:02:06 | dionoea | and not gb2312 |
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| 16:02:45 | S_a_i_n_t | and the font needs to support the characters also. |
| 16:05:46 | wanttoknow | My english is poor and i don,t know how to describe the problem. |
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| 16:06:46 | wanttoknow | I use printf("汉å—") |
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| 16:07:08 | dionoea | wanttoknow: is the file saved as utf-8? |
| 16:07:14 | wanttoknow | but æ±‰å— cannot display well |
| 16:07:52 | wanttoknow | I don't know. It's a lua program. |
| 16:08:32 | wanttoknow | I am sure the font supports the characters. |
| 16:09:00 | dionoea | I'm not talking about the font, I'm talking about the lua program itself. |
| 16:09:51 | dionoea | if you run linux you can use "file program.lua" to see if it is using utf-8 |
| 16:10:16 | wanttoknow | I use windows 7. |
| 16:10:36 | wanttoknow | please wait for a minute |
| 16:10:45 | dionoea | what text editor do you use? (they usually have an option to save as utf8) |
| 16:12:50 | wanttoknow | I will upload it to you. |
| 16:12:59 | dionoea | for example notepad has an option to save as UTF-8 |
| 16:13:07 | dionoea | I won't be able to check here (I'm at work). |
| 16:13:35 | wanttoknow | what a pity |
| 16:15:29 | wanttoknow | as I know, UTF-8 could display Chinese |
| 16:15:50 | dionoea | it indeed can |
| 16:16:20 | wanttoknow | http://cid-25d170e0c1bf0b49.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/lua.rar |
| 16:16:29 | dionoea | and I believe that rockbox uses utf-8 internaly (but I'm not sure ... someone please prove me wrong) |
| 16:16:48 | wanttoknow | this is the program and the font |
| 16:18:31 | wanttoknow | dionoea:Could you read it when you are free? |
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| 16:19:12 | wanttoknow | And how to connect with you? |
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| 16:21:12 | krazykit` | that's in iso8859 |
| 16:22:39 | dionoea | wanttoknow: just copy paste your file to notepad and save as using utf-8 as encoding |
| 16:23:52 | wanttoknow | OK,I know.Are you American? |
| 16:24:01 | dionoea | no |
| 16:24:20 | wanttoknow | ? |
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| 17:23:32 | zumbi | hi |
| 17:25:03 | zumbi | i am trying to get a device to use rockbox with, but it is hard to see version numbers on commercial products (on-line shops). Do you have a pointer to get one 100% rockbox compatible device? |
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| 17:25:26 | * | S_a_i_n_t 's one wish for RB currently is to have usb transfer (on ipod nano1g) remotely close to the OF's speed. |
| 17:26:29 | AlexP | zumbi: That depends on the device - for the Sansa players the original firmware version number is really the only way |
| 17:26:48 | gevaerts | zumbi: apart from what AlexP says, it also might depend on where you are |
| 17:28:21 | gevaerts | The sansa e200 should be fairly safe though. There are two versions, and you can't distinguish them easily, but both are supported |
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| 17:28:39 | zumbi | i am at .es, i have been looking to ebay for sansa devices, http://cgi.ebay.es/8GB-SANDISK-Sansa-View-Tragbarer-MP3-MP4-Player_W0QQitemZ250548683102QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMP3_Player?hash=item3a55dd815e |
| 17:29:01 | zumbi | sorry i should use a tinyurl |
| 17:29:41 | * | gevaerts prefers full urls |
| 17:30:06 | gevaerts | the sansa view doesn't work with rockbox |
| 17:30:29 | zumbi | http://cgi.ebay.es/MP3-Player-Sansa-Clip-Plus-4GB-Red-Radio-FM-microSD_W0QQitemZ350308381873QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_186?hash=item519001b4b1 |
| 17:30:43 | AlexP | Nor does the clip+ |
| 17:31:04 | AlexP | zumbi: The very first thing you ought to do is look at www.rockbox.org for a list of supported players |
| 17:31:34 | zumbi | AlexP: i did, but i was not sure, which one of those was e200 or c200 |
| 17:31:43 | zumbi | but i realize none of them are |
| 17:32:03 | zumbi | would it take too much time to port for Sansa View? |
| 17:32:15 | AlexP | www.rockbox.org/wiki/NewPort |
| 17:32:47 | AlexP | Ports are very complicated and time consuming, and you would need a good knowledge of programming, or be prepared to learn |
| 17:34:00 | zumbi | uhm.. being realistic i do not really have the time to port then, but it would be fun |
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| 17:34:37 | eliasp | just had the first weekend having my Cowon iAudio D2 running rockbox.... i must say, i absolutely love rockbox (despite the lack of ext2/3/4 support)... i'd just wish there was a 'Open' portable media player like there's the OpenMoko Freerunner for mobile phones... |
| 17:34:39 | * | zumbi heard on this project at fosdem (this weekend) :-) |
| 17:35:43 | AlexP | eliasp: Yeah, it would be nice in principle, but things like that don't tend to be as cheap/small/etc as commercial ones |
| 17:35:54 | AlexP | economies of scale and all that |
| 17:36:38 | eliasp | AlexP: yes, i know... i own a OM FR and there was the same problem regarding UMTS support in these devices... with UMTS support they'd costed ~+200€ |
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| 17:37:34 | AlexP | zumbi: Yeah, bagder has been spreading the gospel :) |
| 17:38:20 | eliasp | i actually don't like the haptics of the Cowon D2..... i'm still looking for the optimal player with better haptics + optimal Rockbox support... let's see... |
| 17:40:29 | eliasp | does anyone know, if there are (also experimental) patches for ext2 (or any other more capable FS than vfat) support in rockbox? i just hate vfat and would love to have another FS available, even if it would need some hacking to get it running.... |
| 17:40:53 | AlexP | Nope |
| 17:40:58 | gevaerts | zumbi: something that's not always clear to people is that "e200" can mean e250, e260, e270 and e280 (depending on capacity) |
| 17:41:02 | AlexP | And it is on the NODO IIRC |
| 17:41:34 | zumbi | gevaerts: i see, i recall seeing some e250 |
| 17:41:37 | eliasp | AlexP: yes, that's what i've read on the wiki... just thought maybe someone hacked something unofficial up but didn't really publish it yet or so... |
| 17:41:44 | gevaerts | eliasp: implementing something like ext2 isn't exactly a small project, and the gains are pretty marginal... |
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| 17:41:54 | AlexP | It also takes away very limited resources |
| 17:42:04 | eliasp | gevaerts: the gains are: finally being able to use sane filenames containing char's like : |
| 17:42:05 | AlexP | And isn't supported on Windows |
| 17:42:06 | eliasp | ;-) |
| 17:42:46 | AlexP | Basically, it isn't worth the effort for Rockbox |
| 17:42:57 | eliasp | AlexP: i actually don't care about win support, but ok... maybe you're right... the majority of the users can live with these restrictions like they did until now with every other player.... |
| 17:43:20 | AlexP | It takes away resources from everyone for something that is useless to most, and of limited use to a few |
| 17:43:26 | eliasp | AlexP: yes, i see the point... there are other more important this which are in need of the precious dev resources |
| 17:43:32 | eliasp | ye |
| 17:43:48 | AlexP | I mean resources on the player (memory princiapply), not dev resources |
| 17:43:48 | gevaerts | dev resources aren't the problem (assuming you find someone who wants to do this), RAM is |
| 17:43:58 | Torne | the features you are gaining are pretty miniscule |
| 17:44:04 | Torne | most of FAT's downsides don't really apply very much to a DAP |
| 17:44:15 | Torne | (e.g. fragmentation is largely irrelevant) |
| 17:44:21 | eliasp | hehe, ok... i'm just fed up with having to convert all my filenames before transferring files to my player.... |
| 17:44:45 | Torne | keep your music in FAT-safe filenames to start with? :) |
| 17:44:58 | Torne | (Picard has an option to do this when renaming files, even when not running on windows) |
| 17:46:29 | eliasp | Torne: i wont... i love to keep my files named as they're intended to be named... just renaming an album to something different just because this crappy vfat doesn't support it's original name isn't an option for me... i love to keep things like they're meant to be ... but ok... i should probably just start using Amarok for transferring files to the player... Amarok is able to convert the filenames "FAT-safe" ... |
| 17:46:29 | eliasp | just need to iron out some bugs in Amarok's mediadevice support.... |
| 17:47:30 | Torne | you have tags, no? does it really matter that much if a colon or two is missing in the filename? they'll be there in the metadata :) |
| 17:48:05 | eliasp | Torne: yes, i do have tags... but that's the point where the word "inconsistency" comes in... ;-) |
| 17:48:21 | gevaerts | eliasp: you have no tracks at all with a / in the title? |
| 17:48:58 | CIA-88 | New commit by Domonoky (r24567): correctly set playback time in the asap codec. (metadata parser might not do it for all fileformats). |
| 17:49:00 | Torne | Yah, one character is banned anyway, so you have to ban ~10 more.. |
| 17:49:13 | eliasp | gevaerts: that's the only restriction where i see the sense of it across all OS/FS |
| 17:49:25 | Llorean | eliasp: Filenames are "meant" to uniquely identify files. That doesn't mean they need to contain metadata, just be a string you can recognize as the file's name (hey, look at those two words!) |
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| 17:49:38 | eliasp | but ok... discussed enough... fact is: there's no ext2/3/4 support and it won't be unless i do it on my own ;) |
| 17:49:59 | gevaerts | and even then, we probably won't put it in the official tree |
| 17:50:10 | eliasp | Llorean: i've just developed over the years an IMHO really clean structure for storing my multimedia-data... |
| 17:50:13 | TheSeven | well, linux can have a / in a filename, huh? |
| 17:50:26 | Torne | TheSeven: no, no POSIX system can have a forward slash |
| 17:50:26 | TheSeven | can't that just be escaped with a \? |
| 17:50:28 | Torne | No. |
| 17:50:33 | eliasp | TheSeven: it actually can, depends on which unicode sequence you use... |
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| 17:51:34 | Torne | eliasp: normalisation eliminates the ones that are logical duplicates.. you can have something that looks rather like a forward slash but it won't be the same character |
| 17:51:59 | eliasp | Torne: that's true... so using an "unreal" / wouldn't actually be an option for me ;) |
| 17:52:19 | TheSeven | what about an "unreal" : for fat then? :-D |
| 17:52:29 | eliasp | ;) |
| 17:52:31 | TheSeven | oh well, missed that they don't support unicode :-P |
| 17:52:35 | eliasp | hehe |
| 17:52:41 | TheSeven | at least nor properly |
| 17:52:56 | TheSeven | long filenames can have unicode to some degree... |
| 17:52:58 | TheSeven | not* |
| 17:54:10 | TheSeven | but long file names are another issue themselves... |
| 17:55:07 | TheSeven | fat is just a crappy old stoneage file system... and those "patches" like LFN didn't really make it better |
| 17:55:38 | TheSeven | but the only real alternative i can see (for most users) would be NTFS, an I think we're even more opposed to that one ... :-P |
| 17:55:43 | AlexP | But it has the advantage of being small and universally supported |
| 17:55:51 | AlexP | fat that is |
| 17:55:54 | eliasp | yes, and exFAT is just a dead horse ..... |
| 17:56:18 | Torne | TheSeven: er, FAT does support unicode |
| 17:56:33 | Torne | VFAT is UTF-16 and supports all the same characters as any other FS, minus the ~10 that you aren't allowed to have on FAT |
| 17:56:35 | TheSeven | Torne: I think I remember some restrictions on that |
| 17:56:51 | Torne | No, there are no restrictions beyond hte ASCII chars you can't have anyway |
| 17:56:56 | piotrekm | TheSeven: so how about ntfs support for rb;> ? |
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| 17:57:25 | TheSeven | piotrekm: if anything, I would think about a flash file system and MTP |
| 17:57:42 | TheSeven | that would mean getting rid of those stupid FTLs at least |
| 17:58:22 | S_a_i_n_t | goddam ftls *grumble* |
| 17:58:38 | piotrekm | TheSeven: and... is it possible to test your loader? |
| 17:58:56 | piotrekm | i read you went quite far with it |
| 17:59:17 | S_a_i_n_t | ...and going further |
| 17:59:18 | TheSeven | it's at about the same level of functionality as the "old" iloader... |
| 17:59:50 | TheSeven | however, I wouldn't dare flashing that right away without testing, as at least one ipod is known to have issues with it, and recovering it means opening it... |
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| 18:00:26 | piotrekm | right |
| 18:01:12 | TheSeven | however, you can test most of it through DFU |
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| 18:02:39 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 18:02:46 | TheSeven | so the procedure is basically: 1. corrupt norboot, and install iloader on the flash, don't install norloader yet, 2. it will boot to dfu, upload norloader that way, 3. if that works (both "normal" and recovery mode), flash norloader, 4. pray |
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| 18:04:23 | TheSeven | if it fails at stage 2/3, you can just upload norboot via DFU, boot to ibugger and flash norboot again from there... |
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| 18:07:08 | TheSeven | piotrekm: do you want to do it? |
| 18:07:21 | piotrekm | TheSeven: i'm calculating right now;> |
| 18:08:05 | S_a_i_n_t | piotrekm: only one way to find outif it works... :P |
| 18:08:27 | TheSeven | S_a_i_n_t: if it works through DFU, it is very unlikely to fail when flashed |
| 18:08:43 | piotrekm | TheSeven: if having to disassemble the iPod is the bigest risk, i do want |
| 18:08:45 | TheSeven | it also fails through DFU on liar's ipod |
| 18:09:05 | TheSeven | piotrekm: disassembling it and connecting 2 testpoints on the pcb |
| 18:09:27 | TheSeven | which os are you on? |
| 18:09:46 | piotrekm | currently linux, have Mac OS too |
| 18:10:00 | TheSeven | have you already worked with ibugger before? |
| 18:10:04 | piotrekm | no |
| 18:10:26 | TheSeven | then, if you are running something debian-based, run an apt get python-usb |
| 18:11:04 | piotrekm | done |
| 18:11:06 | S_a_i_n_t | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=23838.msg161858#msg161858 seems kinda odd... |
| 18:11:29 | TheSeven | get unibugger 0.1.0 from http://bit.ly/oXZRO |
| 18:12:30 | piotrekm | already have it |
| 18:12:42 | TheSeven | ok, and iloader/ibugger is installed on your ipod? |
| 18:13:23 | piotrekm | no |
| 18:13:40 | piotrekm | where to find ibugger? |
| 18:14:24 | TheSeven | how did you install iloader? through ipodpatcher? |
| 18:14:43 | S_a_i_n_t | Torne; has something changed with the way ipods (nano 1st gen I've tested so far) detect charging? i've noticed that the wps tags %?bp (charger connected?) and %?bc (charging?) don't work...but i dont know if they ever did. |
| 18:14:47 | piotrekm | last time i did it was through ipodpatcher |
| 18:14:53 | Torne | S_a_i_n_t: no |
| 18:14:54 | TheSeven | then just take unibugger-0.1.0/nano2g/loader/loader.bin and place it on your ipod as /iloader/ibugger.bin |
| 18:15:16 | TheSeven | it should start if you press the menu button in iloader |
| 18:15:22 | piotrekm | ok |
| 18:15:28 | Torne | S_a_i_n_t: afaik all power management code is identical across all the ipods with a pcf50605 (everything after 3rd gen) |
| 18:15:41 | Torne | S_a_i_n_t: and charging status in the WPS works for me on ipodvideo :) |
| 18:15:53 | Torne | does it show the right thing in the debug menu? |
| 18:16:15 | S_a_i_n_t | hmmmmm, well %bp and %bc don't work on my nano |
| 18:16:33 | TheSeven | once your ibugger loader is running, do the following: |
| 18:17:18 | TheSeven | sudo control.py startup && sleep 2 && sudo control.py upload 08000000 iloader-flasher.bin && sudo control.py execute 08000000 0a000000 |
| 18:17:44 | TheSeven | then run sudo control.py dumpstate until it shows R8 = 0 |
| 18:18:05 | Torne | S_a_i_n_t: Is the status in the debug screen right though? |
| 18:18:11 | TheSeven | (could be that it's already at that point when you run it the first time |
| 18:18:24 | TheSeven | then run sudo control.py reset |
| 18:18:32 | piotrekm | ok, i ill backup the data first |
| 18:18:38 | TheSeven | the display will start fading to white |
| 18:18:54 | Torne | S_a_i_n_t: it should work, so please narrow down exactly what doesn't work ;) |
| 18:19:00 | TheSeven | oh yeah, i forgot the most important thing: backup your nor |
| 18:19:17 | CIA-88 | New commit by jdgordon (r24568): unconditioannly show the main/base skins backdrop when enabling the theme so plugins show the correct backdrop in menus |
| 18:19:18 | TheSeven | (sudo control.py download 24000000 100000 norbackup.bin) |
| 18:19:28 | Torne | S_a_i_n_t: see debug menu, view battery, scroll down to the "Power status:" screen |
| 18:19:31 | piotrekm | before upload i assume;> ? |
| 18:19:47 | TheSeven | yep |
| 18:19:51 | TheSeven | you can also do it before "startup" |
| 18:20:10 | TheSeven | just run it separately |
| 18:20:41 | S_a_i_n_t | i can't check it just this second...but i may of assed it up, %bp nd %bc *can* be used conditionally...right? (as in %?bp etc.) |
| 18:20:57 | Torne | I have no idea, never edited a wps. |
| 18:21:16 | Torne | i would guess that if it shows right in debug but not in your wps then your wps is wrong |
| 18:21:30 | Torne | (since a bug there would probably have been noticed) |
| 18:21:37 | Torne | if it's wrong in debug also then there's a problem :) |
| 18:22:19 | S_a_i_n_t | i'll let you know once transfer is finished... |
| 18:27:17 | zumbi | gevaerts: i found Sandisk Sansa e250 2GB Black, would it be rockbox compatible? I think so :-) |
| 18:27:52 | * | JdGordon prods people with cow prodders to test FS #10853 |
| 18:29:07 | gevaerts | zumbi: yes |
| 18:29:12 | * | zumbi buys |
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| 18:35:03 | flyback | first off rockbox is awesome, pretty much everything I wanted but I have a few questions, and going to hop in the shower and check the answers probbaly after work |
| 18:35:22 | flyback | a) any know issues with rockbox not wanting to awake after sleep mode/power off on the irivers |
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| 18:35:43 | flyback | b) how do I do just a flat out "list everything" mode for all the music files instead of directories etc |
| 18:35:44 | evilnick_B | flyback: Exact model would help, there are a few iRiver targets now |
| 18:35:53 | flyback | h10 5gb (4gb now) |
| 18:36:31 | flyback | c) btw your debug option "dump ata indenity info" is *IDENTICAL* almost to what I was talking about with adding smart info |
| 18:36:54 | flyback | d) I am confused off my ass what this channel vs community is for |
| 18:37:44 | evilnick_B | flyback: It's pretty straightforward. #rockbox is here for rockbox-related questions. #rockbox-community is there for the devs to mess around. |
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| 18:39:23 | domonoky | b) just create a playlist of everything. (for example by using "insert" on the topmost music directory, there are other ways too, see manual) |
| 18:39:50 | Torne | flyback: how is dump ATA identify info anything like SMART? |
| 18:40:12 | Torne | that's literally just a binary dump of the data the disk returns when you send it IDENTIFY |
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| 18:40:58 | Torne | (btw, adding SMART is on my todo list, but I make no guarantees about when I will get to it) |
| 18:45:01 | S_a_i_n_t | Hey... JdGordon, did you change something that'd break WPS backdrops? |
| 18:45:25 | S_a_i_n_t | none of my WPS backdrops will load on current build... |
| 18:45:25 | S_a_i_n_t | previosly, were fine. |
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| 18:47:00 | flyback | Torne, NOT active smart support |
| 18:47:11 | flyback | I mean just setting off the command to the drive and dump the output to a file |
| 18:47:12 | flyback | nothing more |
| 18:47:27 | flyback | we use a external application to interpreate the info |
| 18:47:36 | flyback | so we don't add bloat or headache to rockbox |
| 18:47:57 | flyback | that's all we need is just dump to file |
| 18:48:09 | flyback | then someone can write an app, script etc to translate it to english |
| 18:53:48 | flyback | anyways heading to work, will discuss this more when I get home |
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| 19:03:05 | S_a_i_n_t | has anyone else built/tested a current build lately? r24566 or higher? |
| 19:03:19 | S_a_i_n_t | and can you confirm that WPS backdrops are broken? |
| 19:03:28 | JdGroid | S_ain't: nuts. What have I done? |
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| 19:03:48 | S_a_i_n_t | I dunno....no backdrops in WPSs |
| 19:03:51 | S_a_i_n_t | ;( |
| 19:03:52 | S_a_i_n_t | sorry |
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| 19:04:12 | jdgordy | Does it show anything? |
| 19:04:28 | S_a_i_n_t | yes, everything but the backdrop |
| 19:04:29 | jdgordy | Or just a solid color? |
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| 19:05:03 | jdgordy | Is that the commit I just did? |
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| 19:05:09 | S_a_i_n_t | just solid black, but that may be my settings for background colour coming through' |
| 19:05:35 | S_a_i_n_t | but there's no backdrop...I thought it was my wps, but than tried Cabbie 176X132 |
| 19:05:41 | S_a_i_n_t | and still no backdrop |
| 19:06:47 | jdgordy | Is the skin buffer full? |
| 19:07:00 | | Quit bluebroth3r (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 19:07:01 | jdgordy | Is there %Xd ? |
| 19:07:15 | S_a_i_n_t | no, and yes |
| 19:07:36 | jdgordy | Well that explains it |
| 19:07:43 | S_a_i_n_t | as I said, even Cabbie is doing it |
| 19:07:51 | jdgordy | That means don't show a backgriud |
| 19:08:19 | S_a_i_n_t | Oh...wait..%X |
| 19:08:25 | S_a_i_n_t | not %Xd |
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| 19:10:03 | S_a_i_n_t | y'know how cabbie has the black to grey transition effect, and the playbar background (both are the backdrop) neither show. |
| 19:10:14 | S_a_i_n_t | my theme is similar, and does the sam ething |
| 19:11:18 | jdgordy | Put your theme online somewhere |
| 19:11:55 | S_a_i_n_t | Ok...but I'm swearing it's the code...(as Cabbie does the exact same thing) gimme a sec. |
| 19:11:56 | jdgordy | When did it work? Figure out with revision broke it |
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| 19:16:04 | bug2000 | Hello. I'd like to know, if it is ok, what prevents sansa clip v1 from being defined as stable. So I could decide if it is stable or not for me. :) |
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| 19:21:28 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon: http://www.datafilehost.com/download-08956429.html is my theme, and (although untested) I'm putting my money on it being 24560 that broke it |
| 19:21:32 | saratoga | i think playback on the clip sometimes fails in wierd situations |
| 19:21:45 | S_a_i_n_t | I don;t remember what my last revision was before I updated. |
| 19:22:17 | S_a_i_n_t | I'm at 24566 presently. |
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| 19:25:51 | bug2000 | saratoga: Oh :( Then it might be risky. Because I want to hear music in different ways... Way to go for supporting SPC. |
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| 19:26:16 | AlexP | bug2000: It dual boots, and can't hurt anything |
| 19:26:23 | S_a_i_n_t | it *could* possibly (more likely) be 24565 that broke it |
| 19:26:28 | AlexP | S_a_i_n_t: |
| 19:26:36 | AlexP | S_a_i_n_t: Why not test instead of guessing? |
| 19:26:50 | bug2000 | AlexP: Thats a very good point. |
| 19:26:53 | bertrik | the clip works for me, but the range of music I play (codecs, bitrates) is rather limited |
| 19:27:07 | S_a_i_n_t | because it'll take me far too long to dissect and build |
| 19:27:22 | bug2000 | By the way, is there a way to tell if a Sansa Fuze is v1 or v2 without opening the box? [Considering whenever to return it for Clip+ or not as it does have property cable :(] |
| 19:27:29 | AlexP | S_a_i_n_t: Ah, so you are too lazy to help fix it, but others should |
| 19:27:36 | S_a_i_n_t | and I can onle see 2 commits that touch backdrops lately |
| 19:27:37 | AlexP | bug2000: Not that I'm aware of |
| 19:27:56 | AlexP | S_a_i_n_t: So if there are only two, it won't take you long to do |
| 19:28:41 | bug2000 | AlexP: I see. Thank you very much. Nice helpful people. I love that :). |
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| 19:28:56 | AlexP | bug2000: Glad to help :) |
| 19:29:59 | S_a_i_n_t | well AlexP, I'm *hoping* someone already has them built, and could test them immediately, instead of having to wait 40mins or so between builds...but here's a polite "whatever" |
| 19:30:49 | JdGordon_ | 24565 is the most likely to break anything, but it works! I tested it |
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| 19:31:51 | AlexP | JdGordon_: I hate to back up S_a_i_n_t (:)) but I also see no WPS backdrop on the current build (with cabbie v2, and my theme) |
| 19:32:04 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon: have you seen the behaviour on 24566? |
| 19:32:05 | JdGordon_ | LIES! ALL <LIES! |
| 19:32:07 | AlexP | JdGordon_: I'll check the commits to see which broke it |
| 19:32:13 | JdGordon_ | thanks |
| 19:32:30 | JdGordon_ | i've just got to work so can't do much about it for the next few hours |
| 19:32:38 | AlexP | no worries |
| 19:32:39 | S_a_i_n_t | 'cos that's *not* what I was doing.... |
| 19:32:51 | AlexP | You just said you weren't |
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| 19:33:05 | S_a_i_n_t | no, I didn;'t |
| 19:33:28 | S_a_i_n_t | you think I just pulled revision numbers out of the sky? |
| 19:34:13 | AlexP | Nope, of course not. However you said that you weren't willing to build specific revisions to check which one broke it |
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| 19:34:37 | S_a_i_n_t | that's not saying I wasn;t checking over the commits however |
| 19:34:48 | S_a_i_n_t | that's just assumption |
| 19:34:56 | AlexP | I never said that... |
| 19:34:56 | orzo | anybody here use keybox? |
| 19:35:24 | orzo | seems like it should have a password generation feature |
| 19:35:36 | S_a_i_n_t | [07:32] <S_a_i_n_t> 'cos that's *not* what I was doing.... |
| 19:35:36 | S_a_i_n_t | [07:33] <AlexP> You just said you weren't |
| 19:35:46 | S_a_i_n_t | but I refrain...this is futile |
| 19:36:27 | AlexP | S_a_i_n_t: And I was talking about building different revisions to see which broke it |
| 19:36:35 | bertrik | S_a_i_n_t, you could try a couple of daily builds from http://download.rockbox.org/daily/ |
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| 19:39:02 | gevaerts | Has anyone here ever looked at serialICE (http://www.serialice.com/)? |
| 19:40:27 | bertrik | I haven't |
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| 19:41:12 | gevaerts | It's a tool to run software (they use it for PC BIOSes) in qemu, while passing through memory and register IO to the actual hardware (over a serial port). |
| 19:41:39 | gevaerts | It sounds like an idea we could use to look at OFs |
| 19:41:49 | bug2000 | AlexP: One more question please. Which sizes go to which revision on Sansa Fuze? |
| 19:42:28 | TheSeven | gevaerts: OFs will probably break the serial connection at some point during intialisation |
| 19:42:40 | TheSeven | especially if we want to do it via usb |
| 19:42:59 | Torne | flyback: uhm, tgat seems very complicated and roundabout, and useless to most usets |
| 19:43:03 | Torne | users |
| 19:43:11 | gevaerts | TheSeven: yes, usb isn't going to be easy. UARTs should work, you can intercept *some* registers :) |
| 19:43:48 | AlexP | bug2000: You mean what storage capacity? |
| 19:43:54 | Torne | flyback: actual smart support is not difficult/large, and will work for normal users to warn them of possible problems |
| 19:44:12 | TheSeven | but uarts are probably too slow |
| 19:45:12 | gevaerts | They seem to still be useful |
| 19:45:31 | gevaerts | As far as I understood at fosdem, the coreboot people do use them |
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| 19:46:58 | gevaerts | They do have scripting support to be able to bypass long known sequences of accesses |
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| 20:15:45 | AlexP | JdGordon_: 24564 shows the wps backdrop, 24565 doesn't (with cabbie v2) |
| 20:15:59 | JdGordon_ | well bugger |
| 20:17:08 | AlexP | And loading the theme from the theme settings menu seems to clear the menu backdrop |
| 20:17:47 | JdGordon_ | but it shows from boot? |
| 20:17:55 | AlexP | yep |
| 20:18:18 | AlexP | So if I select a theme I get no backdrop, turn off then on then the backdrop is there |
| 20:19:30 | JdGordon_ | AH OK |
| 20:19:35 | * | JdGordon_ is less worried now |
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| 20:21:51 | AlexP | JdGordon_: I'm talking about the menu backdrop incidently, the wps backdrop is never there |
| 20:22:39 | S_a_i_n_t | that doesn't work with the WPS backdrop from what I tried |
| 20:22:57 | S_a_i_n_t | I noticed menu backdrop didn;t apply until restart as well, but forgot until just then |
| 20:23:29 | bug2000 | AlexP: Yes, I do. Sorry for the huge delay. |
| 20:23:46 | AlexP | bug2000: Then I'm not sure I'm afraid |
| 20:24:34 | S_a_i_n_t | Ah, right...I read that wrong. Yes, AlexP is quite correct...WPS backdrop is gone completely, and the menu backdrop only appears after a reboot. |
| 20:25:21 | bug2000 | AlexP: I see. Right now I fear of openning it so I can replace it. If it's revision 1 it'll work with Rockbox, so it's a keep even though I hate the idea of property usb cable. If it's revision 2, then it'll really be best idea to just return it for clip+. I gotta figure how to decide it :) |
| 20:25:49 | AlexP | bug2000: clip+ doesn't work with Rockbox either |
| 20:26:03 | bug2000 | AlexP: But it doesn't have evil property cable. |
| 20:27:09 | GodEater | proprietary :) |
| 20:27:46 | bug2000 | GodEater: Thank you. :) I don't use that word enough to remember how to spell it. |
| 20:30:50 | piotrekm | TheSeven: what's the Uncap firmware here ? http://l4n.clustur.com/index.php/Status |
| 20:31:26 | piotrekm | TheSeven: nevermind, found it |
| 20:32:26 | JdGordon_ | AlexP: blast, I cant get onto the corpnet wifi in linux so I'll fix it tonight |
| 20:32:33 | JdGordon_ | (hopefully) |
| 20:32:36 | AlexP | JdGordon_: No worries :) |
| 20:33:04 | liar | piotrekm: i found the uncap address *proud* ... nvm |
| 20:33:28 | piotrekm | liar: what;> ? |
| 20:34:18 | piotrekm | it's about the volume in iPods? and rockbox makes it unnecessary anyway, right? |
| 20:34:26 | liar | piotrekm: i found the way to uncap the firmware... :-) |
| 20:34:26 | liar | ye |
| 20:34:28 | liar | p |
| 20:35:02 | piotrekm | oh, congratulations;> |
| 20:35:17 | bug2000 | Oh well, they opened it. 2nd revision :( |
| 20:36:37 | AlexP | bad luck |
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| 20:58:23 | addikt1ve | hey |
| 20:58:31 | addikt1ve | i noticed a huge bug on rockbox for ipod nano 2g |
| 20:58:52 | addikt1ve | before i add it to the bug tracker... |
| 20:59:04 | addikt1ve | is there a known problem with stereo jumping from ear to ear :) ? |
| 20:59:40 | addikt1ve | the problem is that only my favourite album is concerned |
| 20:59:55 | addikt1ve | files aren't corrupted (i triple-checked, then ripped it again) |
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| 21:00:09 | addikt1ve | maybe file transfer? |
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| 21:00:59 | GodEater | addikt1ve: yes, that's a known issues |
| 21:01:09 | addikt1ve | fuck. |
| 21:01:12 | saratoga | in the future, you can search the bug tracker |
| 21:01:20 | addikt1ve | yep |
| 21:01:22 | addikt1ve | but i was on the irc |
| 21:01:24 | addikt1ve | convenient :) |
| 21:01:29 | AlexP | Not for us |
| 21:01:34 | addikt1ve | -_- |
| 21:01:40 | AlexP | It just means you switched the work onto someone else |
| 21:02:01 | TheSeven | 3 people within 3 days... |
| 21:02:02 | AlexP | Plus, it would have saved you all the reripping |
| 21:02:24 | * | TheSeven wonders what caused that sudden wave of reports of that bug |
| 21:02:25 | addikt1ve | AlexP: actually i had to rerip it |
| 21:02:39 | addikt1ve | it isn't the big problem. |
| 21:03:18 | TheSeven | i hadn't heard anything about such a problem during the months before, and i haven't changed anything in that area |
| 21:03:37 | TheSeven | addikt1ve: when does that happen? only when skipping around? |
| 21:04:22 | addikt1ve | i can't find the bug in the tracker |
| 21:04:37 | addikt1ve | TheSeven: well, only on 1 particular album |
| 21:05:13 | TheSeven | addikt1ve: btw, this is the bug report: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10812 |
| 21:05:32 | addikt1ve | thx |
| 21:05:46 | addikt1ve | i was looking for "nano 2g" |
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| 21:13:44 | _zic | hey guys |
| 21:14:02 | _zic | i don't remember where to fetch the language files of rbutilqt |
| 21:14:56 | _zic | i want to complete/correct russian translation |
| 21:15:07 | _zic | where can i get it ? |
| 21:17:26 | TheSeven | damn |
| 21:17:31 | bug2000 | AlexP: Ok. Hold my hand, I'm going to try and install Rockbox on my clip. |
| 21:17:57 | TheSeven | trying ro reproduce that stupid issue, and running into *lots* of other playback-related glitches |
| 21:18:23 | AlexP | bug2000: The manual would be a good thing to have to hand at this point |
| 21:18:55 | TheSeven | rockbox doesn't seem to like skipping around a lot in a playlist of a lot of very small files at all |
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| 21:19:49 | TheSeven | and sometimes, when pausing/resuming, the "progress bar" on the WPS is flickering between two different positions |
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| 21:23:33 | TheSeven | also, the "x of y" display at the bottom is a little ahead of time |
| 21:23:41 | TheSeven | ~2 seconds |
| 21:23:47 | TheSeven | (pcmbuf size?) |
| 21:24:11 | JdGordon_ | yes |
| 21:24:25 | piotrekm | ...and next track info is a bit delayed |
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| 21:24:54 | bug2000 | [INFO] Original firmware size: 122576 bytes [INFO] Total size of new image: 103051 bytes −− Is that logical? Being smaller? |
| 21:25:55 | bug2000 | AlexP: Where is the manual exectly? Is that just the list of do A-B-C? Also, where is the scary part that can brick it? |
| 21:26:24 | AlexP | bug2000: It is at the link "manual" on every page of www.rockbox.org |
| 21:26:33 | AlexP | And it is a full manual for Rockbox |
| 21:26:46 | AlexP | and the clip is safe to do |
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| 21:38:36 | bug2000 | Note. The rockbox utlity is compiled against libpng12. So it doesn't work on an uptodate Archlinux which has libpng14. |
| 21:41:23 | bug2000 | AlexP: I take it I have to download current sourcecode build for Sansaclip, am I correct? |
| 21:41:57 | AlexP | bug2000: Not the sourcecode, just the current build |
| 21:42:06 | AlexP | and rbutil should be statically linked |
| 21:42:32 | bug2000 | I mean this. http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-sansaclip.zip |
| 21:43:41 | AlexP | bug2000: Rbutil works fine here on Arch |
| 21:44:04 | AlexP | The 64 bit version that is |
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| 21:44:12 | bug2000 | I'm on 32bit, forgot to mention it. |
| 21:44:21 | GodEater | shouldn't matter |
| 21:44:23 | AlexP | However, the 64 bit version is out of date |
| 21:44:36 | GodEater | since it's built statically it doesn't matter what .so you have for libpng |
| 21:44:39 | AlexP | So the 32 bit version might not be properly linked |
| 21:44:59 | GodEater | well an 'ldd' run against it should say... |
| 21:45:18 | AlexP | bug2000: But anyway, that is the correct current build |
| 21:45:57 | bug2000 | libpng12.so.0 => not found |
| 21:46:10 | AlexP | Ah, I have libpng12 installed |
| 21:46:15 | AlexP | It is on AUR |
| 21:46:19 | GodEater | bug2000: and this is rbutil that you've downloaded? |
| 21:46:25 | AlexP | GodEater: same here |
| 21:46:37 | bug2000 | GodEater: Ya. It is. |
| 21:46:44 | GodEater | oh well :) |
| 21:47:00 | bug2000 | I could just do manual build. I already created my firmware manually. Just reading the manual to make sure I don't do great mistakes. |
| 21:47:00 | AlexP | GodEater: http://pastebin.com/m23608fb8 |
| 21:47:09 | GodEater | I never figured out how to get rbutil to build statically in the first place, so I'm not the person to work out how it's borken |
| 21:47:12 | GodEater | *broken |
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| 21:47:40 | bug2000 | http://pastebin.com/d11f9976b |
| 21:47:48 | AlexP | bug2000: If you want to run it, libpng12 is on AUR You can have it plus 14 installed together |
| 21:48:29 | AlexP | bug2000: Well, it is meant to be statically linked :) |
| 21:48:48 | AlexP | bug2000: Anyway, the build you linked is the correct one - unzip that to your player |
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| 21:51:49 | bug2000 | [ERR] FATAL: Permission denied on 3 device(s) and no sansa detected. |
| 21:51:50 | bug2000 | [ERR] You need permissions for raw disc access for this program to work! |
| 21:51:54 | bug2000 | I take it the gui tool needs root :P |
| 21:52:19 | AlexP | for the bootloader I believe so |
| 21:54:37 | bug2000 | OMG! I got Rockbox. |
| 21:55:06 | rasher | bug2000: or raw disc access by other means (such as by your user being in the right groups) |
| 21:56:47 | bug2000 | 95% 5h 6m. Rockbox can only go for 5 hours without a charge? :( |
| 21:57:30 | JdGordon_ | dont belive the runtime estimates |
| 21:58:03 | bug2000 | >.< If I run the dice roller I get stuck in it. |
| 21:58:08 | bug2000 | Oh. NEAT XD |
| 21:58:14 | bug2000 | I "turn off" to get out of it XD |
| 21:59:34 | bug2000 | This stuff is epic. I didn't know you can get such funky stuff on the clip. |
| 21:59:40 | rasher | Now is probably a good time to familiarise yourself with the manual |
| 21:59:43 | bug2000 | I'm like a kid finding a new gadget. |
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| 22:00:26 | bug2000 | rasher: On it :) |
| 22:02:21 | jobec | that approx 5h estimate is quite close to reality in my experience |
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| 22:03:57 | AlexP | It seems to vary quite a bit from person to person |
| 22:04:01 | AlexP | I should try on mine |
| 22:04:06 | AlexP | Once I find it :) |
| 22:04:15 | AlexP | The clip really is quite small :) |
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| 22:05:55 | bug2000 | Good night. Thanks :) |
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| 22:21:50 | bertrik | jobec, there are some ideas to fix that low runtime (no guarantees yet) |
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| 22:25:10 | TheSeven | what do you think, could we benefit from an LCD driver that uses DMA to do the update in background? |
| 22:25:32 | TheSeven | or would we always have to wait for DMA completion before doing other things then? :-P |
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| 22:26:20 | bertrik | maybe it can work if you double-buffer it |
| 22:26:43 | bertrik | I think the e200(v1) uses DMA too, but there's no fancy double-buffering |
| 22:27:48 | bertrik | It has basically a memory mapped framebuffer that is continuously updated towards the display in the background (by DMA) as far as I understnad |
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| 22:56:59 | TheSeven | hm, double-buffering is probably still a lot faster than writing directly to the LCD, but has more latencies and uses 47K of additional RAM (but I don't think that would hurt much on a 32MB target) |
| 22:57:25 | TheSeven | we could possibly use IRAM for that, there's quite a bunch of it lying around unused right now, and it's way faster anyways |
| 22:57:40 | JdGordon_ | how bad would the latency be? |
| 22:57:52 | TheSeven | well, the latency of copying 50K around |
| 22:57:57 | TheSeven | probably not that bad |
| 22:58:51 | TheSeven | or with partial updates even better |
| 22:59:26 | CIA-88 | New commit by amiconn (r24569): APE: Fused vector math for the filters on ARMv6. Speedup is ~2.5% for -c2000, ~7% for -c3000 and higher. |
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| 23:00:38 | * | amiconn thinks r24564 is wrong (@JdGordon_) |
| 23:01:10 | JdGordon_ | 64 or 65? |
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| 23:01:33 | JdGordon_ | oh yeah, meh |
| 23:01:43 | JdGordon_ | I'm not surprised, but that was driving me fucking nuts |
| 23:02:05 | * | Strife89|PalmTX wonders what he jumped in on. |
| 23:02:11 | amiconn | The simulator is there to simulate target behaviour. Deviating from the defaults is completely unnecessary |
| 23:03:53 | JdGordon_ | that setting has no right answer for a default. and is totally stupid on the simulator |
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| 23:04:52 | amiconn | What's stupid about it? |
| 23:05:40 | JdGordon_ | there is no good reason to turn off the diaply in the sim |
| 23:06:24 | JdGordon_ | AlexP: I see the mistake. Can you move the line "display->backdrop_show(gwps->data->backdrop);" in wps.c to under viewportmanager_enable() and try again? |
| 23:06:26 | amiconn | There is. It is simulating target behaviour. |
| 23:06:26 | stripwax | unless you want to simulate the display turning off? |
| 23:06:49 | amiconn | Besides, you can always change settings. They're even saved... |
| 23:06:52 | JdGordon_ | if you do then you can fix the setting, if you are testing other stuff then its just painfully annoying |
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| 23:06:55 | AlexP | JdGordon_: Yep (give me a few minutes, just finishing something up) |
| 23:07:06 | JdGordon_ | if that works then commit it |
| 23:07:12 | AlexP | OK |
| 23:07:13 | * | amiconn doesn't understand what's annoying about it... |
| 23:08:20 | pixelma | JdGordon_: the "change your setting" argument can be used the other way around too |
| 23:08:47 | JdGordon_ | AlexP: it might be better to move it further down even |
| 23:09:04 | JdGordon_ | to under the line with the comment " /* make the backdrop actually take effect */" |
| 23:09:27 | AlexP | OK |
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| 23:09:42 | JdGordon_ | and sure, but I build 4 or 5 sim targets to test on, changing the default every time is driving me insane |
| 23:09:48 | JdGordon_ | that change affects almost noone else |
| 23:11:24 | pamaury | JdGordon_: what changes are you talking about ? |
| 23:11:33 | pixelma | the cfg isn't lost if you don't do a make clean (even then I don't know if it is) |
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| 23:12:18 | JdGordon_ | pixelma: the config isnt shared between targets |
| 23:12:36 | JdGordon_ | I have h300-sim, gigf-sim, e200-sim, x5-sim, h100-sim, rec-sim |
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| 23:13:07 | pixelma | and? Set once for each and forget |
| 23:14:03 | amiconn | Anyone with an ARMv5 target around that can run test_codec and has the ape codec enabled? |
| 23:14:39 | amiconn | Candidates which probably work: Cowon D2, m:robe 500. |
| 23:15:05 | * | gevaerts volunteers |
| 23:15:18 | amiconn | There are more, but I don't think these are in sufficiently working state: iAudio 7, Logikdax, Sansa m200, c100, Clipv2, Clip+ |
| 23:15:33 | gevaerts | I can do the d2 |
| 23:15:48 | amiconn | Ah, that's good, since the D2 is already in the table |
| 23:16:05 | amiconn | Could you run an ape speed test using svn? |
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| 23:16:24 | gevaerts | yes, give me a minute to build |
| 23:16:30 | amiconn | Also, does the D2 play audio? |
| 23:17:05 | gevaerts | yes. The D2 works pretty well. The only issue it really has is the FTL |
| 23:17:08 | webguest33 | Hi, can anyone help me with the keyboard api? int kbd_input(char* buffer, int buflen); How would I write it if I wanted a integer called car for example? |
| 23:17:10 | amiconn | (so you can check whether an optimized version still plays properly and not just white noise) |
| 23:17:15 | amiconn | ok |
| 23:17:45 | amiconn | I'll try to make an armv5 version of the fused vector math. Not sure whether it'll be ready today |
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| 23:17:55 | JdGordon_ | ok then... |
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| 23:18:05 | * | amiconn just realises he can test correctness himself, on the beast |
| 23:18:06 | JdGordon_ | webguest33: what are you trying to do? |
| 23:18:29 | | Quit Adub- (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 23:18:33 | webguest33 | Im writing a plugin that requires a 4 character integer input |
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| 23:18:38 | amiconn | I can't compare performance though, since the armv6 pipelining is quite different (read: more complex) |
| 23:19:55 | domonoky | webguest33: use kbd_input(...) and then call atoi() on the resulting buffer. (and check if the user didnt abort) |
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| 23:20:45 | webguest33 | ok how would i save that into a variable? |
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| 23:21:18 | domonoky | atoi parses the string to a integers, so just use: car=atoi(buffer); |
| 23:21:21 | gevaerts | amiconn: do you need all five of them? |
| 23:21:21 | AlexP | JdGordon_: works :) |
| 23:21:40 | JdGordon_ | cool, commit it :) |
| 23:21:49 | JdGordon_ | yeah, coding at 1am is not good |
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| 23:22:00 | AlexP | will do :) |
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| 23:22:57 | amiconn | gevaerts: That would be nice, because then you can update SoundCodecMonkeysAudio |
| 23:23:00 | domonoky | webguest33: or more like: char mybuf[10]; rb->kbd_input(mybuf,sizeof(mybuf); int car = rb->atoi(mybuf); + add error checking :-) |
| 23:23:12 | gevaerts | ok. Still downloading the new files :) |
| 23:23:22 | amiconn | You may decdide to wait for the optimised version, and leave out -c5000 in the first test |
| 23:23:31 | amiconn | *decide |
| 23:24:23 | * | amiconn compared -c2000 and sometimes -c3000 during development, except on the beast, where even -c4000 is rather fast |
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| 23:24:38 | AlexP | JdGordon_: I guess seeing as it is the only thing inside the if that when I move display->backdrop_show(gwps->data->backdrop); I should remove the if (+ endif) too? |
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| 23:25:29 | amiconn | The good thing about the standard testfile is that it's shorter and hence also smaller |
| 23:26:01 | JdGordon_ | AlexP: yeah, move the #if's with it |
| 23:26:06 | AlexP | OK |
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| 23:32:51 | CIA-88 | New commit by stripwax (r24570): Make the FULL mdct operate 'kinda-sorta' in place (by using the first half of the buffer as the input, the second half of the buffer as the imdct-half ... |
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| 23:33:03 | AlexP | JdGordon_: http://pastebin.com/m30fb7631 |
| 23:33:41 | JdGordon_ | yep |
| 23:33:49 | AlexP | OK :) |
| 23:34:05 | CIA-88 | New commit by alex (r24571): Fix WPS backdrop drawing, as instructed by JdGordon. |
| 23:34:34 | AlexP | JdGordon_: Note me taking neither credit nor responsibility :) |
| 23:34:48 | CIA-88 | New commit by stripwax (r24572): Gosh, fastermdct now operates 'kinda-sorta' in-place. So Tremor no longer needs a memcpy (nor a temp buffer) in vorbis inverse. As far as I can ... |
| 23:34:51 | stripwax | boom |
| 23:35:33 | * | JdGordon_ was happy to leave both to you, but whatever :) |
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| 23:36:34 | amiconn | Hmm, armv5 is relatively boring. Very few interlocks |
| 23:36:58 | webguest33 | I still dont understand how to get text entry, can someone rewrite this in a rockbox way. Thanks scanf("%d", &Date); |
| 23:36:59 | bertrik | stripwax, big improvement? |
| 23:37:25 | amiconn | Iow it should be simple to do the fused math |
| 23:37:39 | gevaerts | amiconn: 463% 317% 211% 83%. The c5000 isn't done yet |
| 23:38:38 | stripwax | bertrik - I see about 0.5MHz faster than trunk vorbis on ipod 5g but I'm not being very methodical .. I'll do a real comparison and upload test_codec results to FasterMDCT on the wiki |
| 23:41:03 | webguest33 | anyone? |
| 23:41:43 | stripwax | webguest33 - did you try the advice to call kbd_input function? grep the rockbox source code for examples |
| 23:41:46 | domonoky | webguest33: did you look at my answer ? |
| 23:42:02 | webguest33 | yes but I didn't understand it |
| 23:42:10 | stripwax | webguest33 - alternatively, write your own using a loop, and responding to up/down/select buttons on the device, for example |
| 23:42:37 | webguest33 | where are the examples located? |
| 23:42:56 | stripwax | webguest33 - there's not "examples" as such - look at the rockbox source code. |
| 23:43:03 | webguest33 | ok |
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| 23:44:30 | * | stripwax tries to guess what will happen next |
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| 23:48:42 | bertrik | pamaury, you are aware of the bloatometer script, right? |
| 23:48:48 | Strife89DS | If it's another troll, I'm staying away. |
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| 23:49:07 | Strife89DS | I've caused us enough trouble. |
| 23:49:08 | pamaury | bertrik: what is this ? I'm using rockbox-info.txt to get info |
| 23:50:02 | bertrik | the bloat-o-meter script tells you quite exactly if binsize went up or down and even shows what functions caused it, it's in utils/analysis |
| 23:50:51 | flyback | <Torne> flyback: actual smart support is not difficult/large, and will work for normal users to warn them of possible problems |
| 23:51:00 | bertrik | it works on .elf files (for example one built from plain svn and the other one built from your changes) |
| 23:51:00 | flyback | ok then do that :) |
| 23:51:27 | flyback | I thought my idea of just dumping the raw smart reg to a file then use a windows or linux app to format it would save the developers time and headaches |
| 23:51:36 | pamaury | bertrik: if compares what with what ? |
| 23:51:39 | flyback | I might need this sooner than later :/ |
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| 23:51:48 | * | flyback dropped his rockbox not even 24 hrs after getting it setup |
| 23:51:58 | flyback | my mind is just deteriating |
| 23:52:09 | flyback | so much anymore I forget I am holding into objects :/ |
| 23:52:17 | bertrik | would be nice if a smart dump application could be done as a plugin, so it doesn't bloat the main rockbox binary |
| 23:52:32 | stripwax | plugin makes sense |
| 23:52:35 | flyback | doesn't even need a plugin really it's the same as ata identify afaik |
| 23:52:37 | flyback | just a command |
| 23:52:43 | Unhelpful | pamaury: i mean limiting the amount of dircache data in memory at once. there would still be a static allocation for it, but it would continue to work if the total dircache data exceeded that size. |
| 23:53:13 | gevaerts | pamaury: you give it two elf files, old and new |
| 23:53:15 | flyback | hey I am having problems with my iriver h10 5g (4gb new disk) this was before I dropped it, it's not always powering back up after a shutdown |
| 23:53:20 | flyback | otherwise rockbox is working awesome |
| 23:53:25 | flyback | is this a known issue |
| 23:53:25 | stripwax | flyback - Mmm.. true, but one that wouldn't necessarily get a lot of usage in normal running (then plus some kind of gui to view it that would also need to be in core - not ideal - I think plugin makes more sense) |
| 23:53:55 | flyback | yeah I know I was just trying to make it easier for you guys and just somethign now users could be walked thru by people like me to check their disk once in a while |
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| 23:54:24 | * | flyback goes back to coreboot hacking |
| 23:54:27 | pamaury | Unhelpful: I'm not sure to understand what you mean. How could it continue to work if the total size exceeds that size ? |
| 23:54:33 | stripwax | flyback - if it's a plugin, you could still do that, and it wouldn't bloat anything for anyone else |
| 23:54:44 | gevaerts | pamaury: that's the thing to solve! :) |
| 23:55:57 | pamaury | Without dynamic allocation, that seems really difficult. A way to do it would be to scan and if we reach the limit, deallocate the whole buffer, reallocate a larger one and retry but that's horrible. |
| 23:56:16 | Unhelpful | pamaury: the data might need to be in a different format, but the idea would be that when you have to spin up, you'd load the current directory, and presumably as much as possible under it, and then as much as possible above it, into cache |
| 23:56:40 | stripwax | flyback - re not powering back up after a shutdown - have you taken a look at the bug tracker (on the rockbox website) to see if there's anything similar? But also - at a guess that's some nonstandard hardware (5g with a 4g disk..?) |
| 23:56:51 | pamaury | Ah, you mean have a partial cache |
| 23:56:54 | pamaury | *having |
| 23:57:22 | flyback | I never have luck searching bugtrackers |
| 23:57:24 | flyback | I dunno why |
| 23:57:30 | stripwax | hmmm. |
| 23:57:35 | flyback | cause I always find obscure bugs and hardware references etc for people |
| 23:57:42 | flyback | people at work think I am a genius etc (dunno myself) |
| 23:57:50 | flyback | but I have shit for luck when it comes to my own stuff :P |
| 23:58:05 | Unhelpful | pamaury: a complete cache on disk, a partial cache in memory. so that it behave more like an actual "cache" and not just an in-memory copy of the entire directory tree. ;) |
| 23:58:07 | stripwax | flyback - try the search function :-p |
| 23:58:14 | flyback | btw if anyone here needs any data recovery info to help with the ata driver etc |
| 23:58:16 | flyback | let me know |
| 23:58:31 | flyback | I was tempted to see if this seagate microdrive has tmos but I didn't want to peel the sticker |
| 23:58:59 | flyback | cause then with tmos I would run 3 wires to my pda and watch the hd itself bootup it's firmware etc :P |
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