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#rockbox log for 2010-02-19

00:02:33JdGordon_tomers: no
00:02:39JdGordon_pamaury: no, you can close it if you want
00:03:54pamauryJdGordon_: as you want
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00:07:31Kinetik_hi everybody
00:07:46Kinetik_ive got a problem with my player
00:07:57Kinetik_i think he's screwed up ^
00:08:10Kinetik_it's a sansa e260v2
00:08:16Kinetik_got rockbox on it
00:08:18krazykitcould you be more specific than "screwed up"?
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00:08:34Kinetik_now wanted to update to original firmware
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00:09:04Kinetik_got the failure, that the musicdb cant be created, because there is to few space
00:09:11Kinetik_but there is nothing on the player
00:09:15Kinetik_just the frimware
00:09:33Kinetik_tired several things said by sansa support
00:09:37Kinetik_nothing helped
00:09:45krazykitproblems with the original firmware aren't on-topic here
00:10:09Kinetik_they told me to google fixmysansa and i found the tool e200tool
00:10:13pamauryTheSeven: ^^
00:10:19Kinetik_i know, it isnt a firmware prob at all
00:10:32krazykite200tool isn't for the v2 devices
00:10:34Kinetik_tried to use this tool
00:10:35tomersJdGordon_: and this is with the following WPS:
00:10:49Kinetik_is there a way to unbrick my device?
00:11:23TheSevenis it even bricked?
00:11:31TheSevenpamaury: the things you removed from stack
00:11:38Kinetik_cant flash, access or make something with it
00:12:12TheSevenhow does it behave? just black screen and no reaction?
00:12:15Kinetik_it says it is connected, but its not in the explorer... or the explorer hangs him up trying to access
00:12:32TheSeventhen it probably isn't bricked.
00:12:33Kinetik_gives the failure and shuts down
00:12:37pamauryTheSeven: ah, year. Well, on all platforms that's 3*512 which is also 1.5KiB. Not worth it. On nano2g that's 3*2048 which is 6KiB, here perhaps that's worth it
00:12:48Kinetik_or as i said cant access the device
00:12:56TheSevenI personally don't care about 6KB
00:12:59Kinetik_thats good, but what can i do?
00:13:01TheSevenwe have plenty of room anyways
00:13:12TheSevenwhich kind of failure?
00:13:37Kinetik_musicdb cant be created, to few space, free up 90 mb space (on a empty player)
00:13:46Kinetik_then he turns of
00:13:53TheSevencan you still boot rockbox?
00:14:19TheSevenso it already flashed the new firmware, which can't access the storage for some reason?
00:14:19Kinetik_he boots to original firmware
00:14:31pamauryTheSeven: agree
00:14:57Kinetik_yes... its a known failure, but the solutions thy gave me dont work, because I cant access the device to reflash
00:15:06TheSeven32MB of RAM on that thing... and if it rebuffers every 20 or 21 minutes won't make any runtime difference on a flash target
00:16:13Kinetik_any ideas TheSeven ?
00:16:14TheSevenKinetik_: did they say what could be the reason for the firmware to behave that way?
00:16:29Kinetik_bad flash porcedure
00:16:45Kinetik_or a failure while creating the db
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00:17:00Kinetik_i have to reflash, but cant access the device to do so
00:17:11TheSevenis there some kind of USB storage or recovery mode on that device?
00:17:16Kinetik_is there a tool like e200tool for the v2? ^
00:17:28TheSeven(i've never even seen an e200v2 yet, i'm just trying to help you in a generic way ;-) )
00:17:56Kinetik_joa, it should be there by putting on the Hold-Mode and pressing down the select-key
00:18:09Kinetik_but that doesnt work
00:18:20JdGordon_tomers: thats what you expected right?
00:18:52Kinetik_in the wiki, theres a walkthrough to unbrick a e200v2
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00:19:15Kinetik_that says to connect to pins while putting in the usb calbe
00:19:38Kinetik_but if i connect these pins, nothing happens if i put in the usb cable
00:19:48Kinetik_and so I'm here ^
00:20:40tomersJdGordon_: oops. I guess
00:20:55*tomers continues testing
00:21:32TheSevenKinetik_: in theory you can always unbrick them using jtag, but i'm afraid that this probably won't be feasible for you
00:22:49tomersshould tools/sample.emacs be moved to utils/editors too? (guess so)
00:23:18saratogaKinetik_: have you checked the sandisk forums?
00:23:21Kinetik_dont know anything about jtag
00:23:25saratogathey're likely to know more about fixing the OF then us
00:23:31saratogamost people here have never really used it
00:24:23TheSevenKinetik_: how does the player behave if you connect those pins?
00:24:56Kinetik_it happens nothing
00:25:12Kinetik_he doesnt do anything...
00:25:32saratogai think it takes a lot of effort to get that trick to work
00:25:39saratogamany tries and very good timing
00:26:02TheSevenKinetik_: "does nothing" = stays off? or boots up normally?
00:26:55TheSevenjudging from the location of those pins i guess they're jamming the communication between the cpu and the flash, so i think it shouldn't be able to boot at all if you mange to connect them
00:27:53Kinetik_stays off
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00:29:56TheSevendoes it power on when you remove it? what happens if you manually try to power it on while they are connected?
00:30:14TheSevenno usb reaction at all? (i expect the screen to stay off in that recovery mode)
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00:31:39CIA-8New commit by tomers (r24761): wps.vim : Syntax for Rockbox WPS ...
00:32:10CIA-8New commit by tomers (r24762): Move sample.emacs to utils/editors
00:32:50*TheSeven eats CIA-8
00:32:51*CIA-8 tastes crunchy
00:35:18Kinetik_trying it again in a newer version of ubuntu...
00:35:34Kinetik_in windows, there is a reaction to the connected pins
00:35:41*JdGordon_ wonders what other fun stuff CIA-8 does
00:35:56TheSevenaha. i'd say that it *is* in the recovery mode then
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00:36:24TheSevenprobably you need to remove that connection again before the usb storage code tries to detect the flash
00:36:35*TheSeven kicks CIA-8
00:36:53Kinetik_yea.. but strange, that he doesnt recognise that on ubuntu 8.04
00:36:59Kinetik_now trying 9.10 ^
00:38:57TheSevenwhat does dmesg say?
00:39:22TheSeventry experimenting with the timing, i.e. removing the bridge *immediately* after connecting usb
00:39:40TheSevenif it boots up normally, it was too early. if it doesn't get detected by the pc, it was too late. and so on.
00:40:19tomersJdGordon_: Switching to hebrew, I get the filename aligned to the right, and the artist name to the left. I think that's ok, right?
00:40:47tomersJdGordon_: Having %ax%V... to viewport, and %Vp|1|%ar%ia|%al%fn|
00:41:13Kinetik_ok... doesnt do anything... triing to experience with the timing
00:41:32Kinetik_i have to connect, remove the pin an then he should boot up?
00:41:37Kinetik_is that right?
00:42:14TheSevenconnect, immediately remove the pin and it should connect to the pc with the screen off, iiuc
00:43:04tomersJdGordon: and when I remove the %ax from the viewport, it aligns in Hebrew as it is in English
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00:43:18tomersJdGordon_: ^
00:43:26Kinetik_ok, if i conncet to the pc with the pins connected, i get a flash drive about 1MB size
00:43:47Kinetik_now triing to find the right timing
00:44:55TheSevenwindows or linux?
00:45:11TheSevena 1MB fat partition, or 1mb of unformatted space (garbage)?
00:45:37TheSevenyou probably won't see the file system in that mode, only the raw flash
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00:45:50TheSeven(but as i said, i have never actually dealt with such a device)
00:46:23Kinetik_1 mb of garbage
00:46:42Kinetik_it says there are no partition tables on it
00:46:46tomersJdGordon: When I set %V|10|30|310|140|1|-|-| and %Vp|1|%aR%ia|%aL%fn|, in Hebrew interface, I get the artist name aligned to the right, and filename aligned to the left. I think it should be the other way around
00:48:15tomersJdGordon_: same results when the inteface language is English. %aL and %aR don't work properly
00:48:46JdGordon_ok, thanks
00:49:14Kinetik_i've got a UNDEF Storage in the explorer... but i cant access
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00:50:01TheSevenKinetik_: how does the firmware file you are supposed to flash in that mode look like?
00:50:17TheSevenit could be possible that you just need to dd that at this point
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00:50:25TheSeveni don't think it can hurt much to just try it
00:50:27Kinetik_öhm... dont know... think its a bin file
00:50:45TheSevenyou're probably reading the same "garbage" from the flash...
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00:51:37Kinetik_but i cant access the device
00:52:05TheSevenaccess in terms of what? i/o errors when trying to read/write it?
00:52:51Kinetik_access in term of doubleclicking on the device
00:53:03TheSeven"You can dump the whole OF-Image onto that by using e.g.:
00:53:04TheSevendd if=orig_image.bin of=/dev/sde "
00:53:27TheSevenbut according to those instructions, you need to keep the pins connected until after it connected...
00:53:37TheSevenand it should report the correct flash size
00:54:27Kinetik_yea... thats my problem... i dont understand what to do now
00:54:53TheSevenjust try around then. or wait until someone turns up who has already done it
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01:10:20Kinetik_ok... dont coming through the point with the undef storage with 1 mb size
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02:20:54checkerwas the multi-font patch in the 3.5 release?
02:26:23checkerand theres no way to change the system font?
02:26:40krazykitnot without recompiling
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02:29:47checkerany forecast as to how long until its in the official release?
02:31:21karashatait is in the current builds
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06:29:45n17ikhso what happens when I manually update rockbox and there are plugins with changed names?
06:29:51n17ikhlike mandelbrot -> fractals
06:30:06n17ikhwill it screw things up?
06:30:21n17ikhbecause the file's name is changed and so the old one no longer gets overwritten
06:32:19JdGordonthose changed ones eventually wont run
06:32:46n17ikhso it's better to occasionally backup config files and delete the entire .rockbox folder instead of just constantly overwriting?
06:36:30JdGordonjust delete the files when they become outdated
06:36:37n17ikhI mean, I've got cruft in my rockbox folder from like 2006
06:36:59n17ikhyeah, but that's a pain..
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07:17:09ffr2822I'd like to report a difficulty with the 3.5 release, operating on a Archos Recorder V1, 20Gb version
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07:18:44pixelmawhat's the problem?
07:19:00ffr2822issue is a crash of the system during playback. Recreate by : Select song for playback. During playback, press F3. Disk access begins flashing at 2hz, and display shows I09:CPUAdrEr at xxxxxxxxxx
07:19:46pixelmais F3 the other "quickscreen"?
07:19:48ffr2822I've seen at least 2 addresses so far - currently I show 09019BFC
07:20:02ffr2822yes - it is. Rightmost upper button
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07:22:06ffr2822I've a bug report ready to file, but I figured I'd mention it here first, just in case it's already been reported - flyspray doesn't have 3.5 as an official release yet.
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07:24:44pixelmaI guess the bug is around for even longer, better put it on the tracker (and you could also try a current build and report for that if the bug is present there too (and I don't know of anything that could have fixed it))
07:26:31ffr2822fair enough - I stumbled across my player in the back of my desk - where it's been for about 5 years - the version on there from before was from 2004 - and the button worked then. *shrug*
07:27:49ffr2822Ok.. it's filed as FS #11037 -
07:28:38pixelmathanks. Unfortunately not many devs have Recorders anymore or don't care about it
07:29:48ffr2822I kinda figured that might be the case - it is a bit long in the tooth.
07:30:48pixelmaI guess the bug is related to viewportification of the quickscreen and went unnoticed because of above mentioned fact and the F3 quickscreen is even less used, I guess
07:31:01pixelmamany guesses :\
07:31:12ffr2822what does it take to build/test the system - maybe I can take a stab at it
07:32:07pixelmathere are howtos for setting up build environment etc. in our wiki
07:32:42pixelmaJdGordon: you have a Recorder too now, right? ;)
07:33:30ffr2822Ok - I'll take a look at it. I normally do embedded linux work, so this can't be all that much different.
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08:05:42CIA-8New commit by funman (r24763): mkamsboot binary depends on the same object files than libmkamsboot
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08:09:46funmanoops LIBOBJS was already included in OBJS
08:13:25funman Prerequisite `build' is newer than target `build/dualboot.o'.
08:13:25funman Must remake target `build/dualboot.o'.
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08:13:56funmanthe problem seems to be the build directory target
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08:14:56Zagorfunman: where is this?
08:15:16Zagordepending on directories is always shaky
08:15:23funmanmake clean; make; make # will rebuild some files 1 times out of 4 or something
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08:16:11CIA-8New commit by tomers (r24764): Brickmania: Use constant for number of fires ...
08:16:53ZagorI get very consistent results: dualboot.c, md5.c and main.c are always rebuilt each time I run make
08:16:53CIA-8New commit by funman (r24765): Revert r24763 : LIBOBJS is already included in OBJS ...
08:18:54Zagorwhat is the purpose of TARGET_DIR and RBARCH?
08:18:55funmanI'm using relatime on this filesystem, but i'd think make use modification time and not access time
08:19:12funmanbuild a 'fat' osx binary
08:19:29funmanwith 2 directories: one for ppc one for x86
08:19:33Zagorwhere are those defined then?
08:20:13funmanmake mkamsboot-ppc
08:20:43funmanhi dionoea
08:23:39psycho_maniaci have a question about upgrading the hard drive of the gigabeat F series. if you upgrade it and build you own version or rockbox do you still have 2 partitions in the file view? the way it sounds on the BigDisk wiki page is this 2 partitions only applies to archos devices
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08:25:31psycho_maniaci have a question about upgrading the hard drive of the gigabeat F series. if you upgrade it and build you own version or rockbox do you still have 2 partitions in the file view? the way it sounds on the BigDisk wiki page is this 2 partitions only applies to archos devices
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08:25:52funmanZagor: what's shaky about depending on directories, something to do with the modification timestamp ?
08:26:48funmanpsycho_maniac: this whole BigDisk page seems to apply only to Archos
08:26:58Zagoryes. I don't remember the problem exactly but I've had problems with trying that in the past. better to always depend on the files.
08:27:24ZagorI'm tweaking that Makefile a bit right now. I'll get back with a suggestion in a minute.
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08:27:30psycho_maniacbut you still have to build your own version or rockbox yes?
08:28:22funmani think you have to if the hard disk is bigger than 160GB, not sure since i never did that
08:28:51CIA-8New commit by tomers (r24766): Brickmania: Use constants for number of bricks rows and columns, and for number of levels
08:29:07funmanZagor: i was thinking instead of "all: $(OUTPUT)" use "all:\n mkdir $(OUTPUT)"
08:29:21psycho_maniacyeah i found a 240gb hd i might put in my gigabeat F series mp3 player, or i might get a S series and put it in there, but i think there are issues with the S series.
08:29:46amiconnpsycho_maniac: You have to build an LBA48-enabled version of rockbox, but you don't need multivolume and two partitions
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08:30:44amiconnOn archos this is necessary because the usb-ata bridge doesn't do lba48. Gigabeat F uses a hardware bridge as well iirc, but a newer version that knows about lba48
08:31:39psycho_maniacso do or dont you have to build your own version for rockbox players with disk drives higher then 160?
08:32:05funman< amiconn> psycho_maniac: You have to build an LBA48-enabled version of rockbox
08:32:30CIA-8New commit by tomers (r24767): Brickmania: Use constant for default value and rename variable of flip-sides delay
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08:32:36Zagorwhat is the downside of having lba48 enabled by default?
08:32:44psycho_maniacoops sorry missed that. but you wont have 2 partitions with the gigabeat F series?
08:33:07funmanyou don't need to
08:33:21psycho_maniacZagor: i think they disable it because most players are not over 160gbs
08:33:31funmanZagor: i'd think binsize
08:34:04funmanbut not much it seems (according to ata.c)
08:34:13ZagorI think we should perhaps reconsider that. disks are increasingly going over the lba limit these days.
08:34:41funmanno static buffers, only a boolean and a set of commands
08:35:01Zagorand yes, I would not expect the binsize difference to be significant. do you know more, amiconn?
08:35:48CIA-8New commit by tomers (r24768): Brickmania: Forgotten one more hard-coded value
08:36:58CIA-8New commit by tomers (r24769): Brickmania: Remove spaces at the end of line
08:37:07amiconnZagor: We could enable it by default for all but archos
08:37:37Zagoryes, that sounds reasonable
08:37:44psycho_maniaci will agree that mp3 players disk space have increased but supported rockbox players disks have not really increased. unless they start supporting mp3 players with disk drives higher then 160 then i could see this enabled by default
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08:38:20Zagorpsycho_maniac: they don't come with it from the factory, but people often upgrade their drives
08:38:42amiconnAs a Related thing, I'd really like to fix the large-physical sector mess for ipod video, but LinusN's is still @ Nico_P (afaik), and the latter hasn't been around for a few months
08:38:45Zagorand we should support that out of the box, unless there's a technical reason not to.
08:39:05funmanbluebrother: what do you think of linking to Sandisk forums in rbutilqt::BootloaderInstallAms::ofHint ? You can download the standalone firmware on their forums
08:39:12psycho_maniacwhen my gigabeat F40 was coming in the mail. a bigger hard drive was also in the mail
08:39:32psycho_maniaci agree. is there a technical reason why the bigger disk size is not enabled by default?
08:39:40amiconnZagor: That large-physical-sector thing is related because many of the >128GB disks have those, and even larger than 1024 byte
08:39:51Zagoramiconn: good point
08:39:56funmanpsycho_maniac: the reason is it isn't supported on Archos, but other models could have it enabled by default
08:40:14amiconnBut their firmware is able to handle splitting/joining themselves, and that's better than handling it in rockbox
08:40:29psycho_maniacso it could be implemented all the players but archos?
08:40:45Zagoramiconn: if you want to work on the big-sector support, buy a used ipod. the fund pays.
08:40:55amiconnSo the proper way would be to probe the disk for this, and only enable the handling in rockbox if the drive actually needs it
08:41:38amiconnThat is, try a 512-byte read and check whether the disk replies with IDNF
08:42:20amiconnIf it does, enable own handling. It may need a reset, that's what needs testing
08:43:20psycho_maniacmaybe this could be put in the summer of code?
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08:44:58psycho_maniacin order for me to get the 240gb hd i want i need a ata to zif adapter and it seems those are hard to come by. well alteast to fit in the mp3 players case.
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08:57:06*funman just spotted big problem in mkamsboot dualboot.S: the code assumes r3 is untouched in the button checks
08:57:27psycho_maniacwhat letters do you see here?;rand=17515e6537326dc218f1be6a4c04ebaa
08:57:29funmanluckily it is not used, but i didn't remember this requirement
08:57:52funmanpsycho_maniac: page doesn't load
08:59:34psycho_maniacmaybe its only viewable to me. i could only see a B and Maybe a X but thats all but it told me i was wrong.
08:59:47funmantry again
09:00:31psycho_maniaci did like numerious times. i just sent a PM intead. that was only for email.
09:01:02funmanthe captcha doesn't change when you refresh the page ?
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09:01:44psycho_maniacno it didnt. i even did "ctrl+F5"
09:05:47ranmachanfunman: It also assumes r5 is untouched AFAICS
09:06:12funmanranmachan: true, but since r5 can be calculated from r3 we can move the calculation at the end
09:06:45Zagorfunman: do you have an osx machine to test build on?
09:07:10funmanZagor: yes i can use videolan machine
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09:09:42CIA-8New commit by zagor (r24770): Tweaked dependencies a bit
09:09:45Zagorfunman: can you try this?
09:13:33funmanlooks fine
09:16:34funmanranmachan: i have a jtag adapter i never used, would it help you ?
09:18:08funmana wiggler with // port
09:21:51ranmachanfunman: I don't have a parallel port on my notebook here
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09:22:04ranmachanOtherwise I'd just build a simple wiggler :)
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09:23:07ranmachanAnd AFAIK USB to parallel adaptes are no good (the spec is really just for attaching printers and not doing more low-level stuff)
09:23:47ranmachanI do have the HW I need in germany, but not here in japan
09:24:58ranmachanBut since I know at least one person at the hacker space here has the adapter I need it's just a matter of time and coordination :)
09:25:25funmanok :)
09:25:53funmancan you upload arbitrary large code to memory or do you have to patch instruction per instruction ?
09:26:35ranmachanI haven't used openocd before, but I'm pretty sure you can upload arbitrary binary blobs. It can take a while to do that though.
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09:29:06funmanif you used a too large dualbout.c but only the 'old' size defined in dualboot.h i believe only uploading the older dualboot.c would be enough since packed OF and bootloader are already in ram
09:29:39psycho_maniacwho is CIA-8?
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09:29:45funmana bot
09:30:07psycho_maniacnice! sorry i havent been around this irc chat in a LONG tiem
09:31:29psycho_maniacwell good night
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09:32:18ranmachanfunman: Yeah that's what I thought too.
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09:43:43funmansomeone with a clipv2 who wants to run some code ?
09:47:10funmanthe Clip+ boots with iram mapped at 0x0, but not the Clipv2, and i'd like to determine the size of iram
09:48:12Unhelpfulfunman: i can, but i might be a bit getting back to you (but not days;)
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09:59:09funmanUnhelpful: <- this writes and then read all iram, i started with the same size than as3525(v1) : 0x50000 bytes, could you check with larger sizes as well?
10:03:28Unhelpfulheh, make sure not to strip the trailing LF from your patches ;)
10:04:22funman shows the 3 trailing lines, what's wrong?
10:05:51Unhelpfulfunman: maybe pastie mangled it, actually... but git apply didn't like the missing linefeed at EOF
10:06:17funmanhm ok, sorry :/
10:07:36Unhelpfuli need to use the bootloader.bin with mkamsboot, not the bootloader-clipv2.sansa, right?
10:07:51funmanno, you need bootloader-clipv2.sansa
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10:08:22funmanbootloader-clipv2.sansa is bootloader.bin with a header added by tools/scramble: the header consists of a 32 bits checksum and a 32 bits model ID which is also hardcoded in mkamsboot
10:08:45funmanthat way you don't write an e200v2 bootloader to a clipv1 OF
10:12:18funmanUnhelpful: i suppose the IRAM size is the same, so 0x50000 should work and 0x50004 should fail
10:15:55funmanUnhelpful: it could hang because 0x81000000 is an alias for 0x0 and code modifies itself
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10:16:25Unhelpfulfunman: suggestions?
10:16:38funmancan you replace the whole test with:
10:17:16funmanint *ram = (int*)main; int *iram = (int*)((int)main + 0x81000000); and print *ram & *iram each on a line ?
10:17:44Unhelpfulfunman: maybe i can do that later :)
10:18:02funmansure, you prefer a patch ?
10:19:54Unhelpfulnah, it'll just be a bit, i have other things i need to do, too
10:21:49Unhelpfulfunman: even if the test hangs shouldn't it clear the display?
10:22:03funmanhm right
10:24:13funmanit could lock in backlight_init, not sure what happens :/
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10:32:13Unhelpfulfunman: hrm, but removing backlight_init hangs w/ a black screen :/
10:33:00funmani remember you had run some code in init_storage so that time it didn't hang
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10:35:36Unhelpfulyah, it sometimes repeated the same values indefinitely and gave an ata error and sometimes output whatever it was you were trynig to find out...
10:37:38funmansome fun in porting in perspective :)
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10:45:42Unhelpfulfunman: adding a printf("START TEST") at the beginning clears the LCD and displays the text
10:46:07Unhelpfuli'll wait a while for the test to complete and then i'll try your suggestion
10:46:51funmanah, lcd_clear_display() doesn't run lcd_update() but printf() does
10:47:28Unhelpfulapparently. and then if the test doesn't finish, either because i didn't wait long enough, or because it hanged...
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11:06:34amiconnlcd_clear_display() isn't suppsed to update, same as all other drawing functions
11:07:04amiconnprintf() is a special bootloader-only function that combines drawing and updating
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11:42:18funmanthere's also a dependencies problem in rbutilqt
11:42:46funmanlang resource is unconditionally remade, and rbutilqt depends on it
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11:47:43funmanlooks like linguist-qt4 is always run but i can't tell what runs it
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12:24:14chriskyteHi, Appoliges if i am asking this in the wrong place but i am new to rockbox and have recently installed on Iriver H120. Have tried the CF mod with 32GB card and am receiving an ATA -80 error. Can anyone help? Thanks
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12:43:54ucchanI will commit the patch concerning wave codec (FS #10424, FS #10425) tomorrow or the day after tomorrow.
12:44:03ucchanPlease give comments to me when there are problems of committing.
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13:11:03funmansomeone with an e200v2 willing to test a mkamsboot patch ? (and unbrick the device if the patch is bad) i can't get skyeye to run properly
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13:24:07FrampisIs there a way to disable booting into the original firmware on an iPod Video?
13:24:22FrampisI keep forgetting the lock switch on when I connect it to a computer
13:27:27TorneNot easily
13:27:37Torneyou can edit the bootloader to not respect the lock switch
13:27:56Torneor you can remove the bootloader entirely and just put rockbox in the firmware partition, but that means you have to mess about with ipodpatcher every time you update
13:28:18Torneactually, i can probably give you such a bootloader if you want :)
13:28:57Tornesince i have exactly that modification on my ipod
13:29:23Frampishow would I go about installing it?
13:29:28Tornethe problem is that if you boot rockbox with the hold switch on then the settings will get reset
13:29:35Torneso it's not really much better
13:29:40Frampisok that's even worse :D
13:29:46TorneI *also* use a versoin of rockbox modified not to do that either
13:29:46Frampisbecause I keep forgetting it on
13:30:00TorneSo yeah
13:30:12TorneNo, not unless you are goingto use a custom build of rockbox and hte bootloader forever.
13:30:45Tornesorry, i forgot about htat ;)
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13:52:33CIA-8New commit by tomers (r24771): Brickmania: Use defines for score values
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14:15:18wodzhello, Is there some way to instruct m68k-elf-gdb to print constants in hexadecimal in disassembly output? Currently if I run x /1i 8 I have 0x8:movew #9984,%sr how to force 9984 to be represented in hex?
14:21:51mc2739funman: I tested your mkamsboot patch. It created a proper firmware update and did not brick my e260v2.
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14:32:28Blue_DudeI would like to add a key action to the tree screen. It's not as easy as it sounds...
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15:24:22anethemahey planetbeing just wanted to say thanks for everything you've done and you're always welcome back to the fold!
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15:37:45pixelmaBlue_Dude: what do you want to do exactly?
15:38:03Blue_Dudepixelma! I'm not worthy!
15:38:22Blue_DudeSorry for trashing the translations a couple of weeks ago...
15:39:13Blue_DudeI want to add a delete key to the directory tree. It would work like the delete key in the bookmark menu.
15:39:40Blue_DudeI hardly ever go into the context menu except to delete something.
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15:40:28pixelmaistn't the tree context already quite crowded (especially on some targets)?
15:43:05Blue_DudeI'm sure it wouldn't work on some targets: not enough keys left. It's only a convenience anyway, not a replacement for the context menu.
15:43:49Blue_DudeFor instance, on the e200 target, you can tap the REC button to delete a bookmark. Why not do the same thing in the directory tree?
15:45:05AlexPWhy use it for delete, and not for insert in playlist?
15:45:20AlexPI'll think you'll hit trouble if you arbitrarily asign a button :)
15:47:03Blue_DudeWell, it's just a fer instance.
15:47:28Blue_DudeAnd REC was already assigned for a similar purpose, so...
15:48:37AlexPI don't follow the last sentence
15:49:46Blue_DudeYou can press REC in the bookmark menu to delete a bookmark. So the assignment isn't arbitrary but follows an established pattern.
15:50:43AlexPIt is arbitrary compared to the other (IMO more useful) functions that could be put on a spare button
15:51:11AlexPAnd I don't think one (quite different) screen constitutes an established pattern
15:51:52*gevaerts thinks that REC in the file screen should obviously start a recording
15:51:58*Blue_Dude shrugs.
15:52:01AlexPgevaerts: long rec does I think
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15:52:32AlexPBlue_Dude: All I'm saying is that if you intend to do something like that it'd be a good idea to bring it up on e.g. the mailing list first
15:52:48Blue_DudeI'm just going with my own experience. I almost never go into the contect menu except to delete something.
15:53:13AlexPSure, I understand that
15:53:22AlexPBut I never delete stuff on the DAP
15:53:32AlexPAnd I thought you were talking about committing this change
15:53:42AlexPIf not, sorry, ignore me
15:54:02Blue_DudeNo, not at all. I haven't even programmed it yet. I'm not 100% sure how to do it either.
15:54:18AlexPheh, OK then :)
15:54:27Blue_DudeJust trying to decide if it's worth the effort.
15:56:04CIA-8New commit by teru (r24774): add manual for bmp viewer plugin.
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16:27:05pixelmagevaerts: short Rec once changed to the recording screen from e.g. the WPS on the c200 and I found it too easily to hit accidentally
16:27:18pixelmaso it was changed to long Rec
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16:42:44Tornedo we know how the tv out works in ipod 4g/5g?
16:42:59dionoeaTorne: there's a patch for tvout on 5g on the tracker
16:43:08Tornei've found some weird references in the firmware that seem to be controlling a tv encoder over i2c
16:43:08dionoeaby Boris
16:43:14TorneYah, that only programs the BCM though
16:43:43dionoeadoesn't BCM control TV out?
16:43:53Tornenot on ipod photo at least, it doesn't have one
16:44:22dionoeaah ok.
16:44:24Tornei've found some code in the bootloader on 5.5g which accesses an i2c device we don't use
16:44:32Torneand google suggests that it might be a video encoder chip
16:44:44Torneand the values it reads/writes from the device are consistent with the datasheet for that encoder
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16:45:13Torneit's not exactly conclusive becuase all it's doing is basically putting it to sleep and otherwise arranging for it to do nothing ;)
16:45:22Tornebut it does poke all the right bits to set it up to do nothing.
16:45:36hipycould rockbox be made for the ipod touch>
16:45:46Torneit could.
16:46:47Tornedionoea: i suspect the video encoder is still there on the ipod video, it's likely separate to the actual BCM video processor
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16:46:58bertrikTorne, interesting! We've seen cases in the past were the original manufacturer did not enable certain parts that rockbox can, like SDHC support on the v1 sansas and radio on some sansa c200v1's
16:47:00Torneit may be that the BCM programs the video encoder itself though
16:47:07dionoeaTorne: maybe, I don't have the slighest clue :)
16:47:13Tornesince i2c can be multiple master
16:47:20Tornebertrik: the OF does use it
16:47:36Torneyou can plug the ipod photo and later into a suitable dock cable and display pictures/videos on a TV
16:47:40Tornein the OF.
16:48:03Tornei found the hint about what the device might be in an ancient irc log from ipodlinux
16:48:12Tornebut they didn't talk about it very much, just mentoined what chip it was at that i2c address
16:48:24Tornethe datasheet is public though and as i say it matches the superficial use in the bootloader
16:49:48bertrikdoes it need some configuration other than what is sent over i2c? if it doesn't it should be that hard to get it working, especially if we have access to a datasheet
16:50:09Tornenot sure. i didn't read the datasheet much
16:50:48Tornebut on the photo at least i can't imagine it's very complicated
16:50:52Tornethere's no seperate video processor there
16:51:11Torneit's just an encoder chip, it doesn't have a framebuffer in it
16:51:28Torne(i think)
16:52:35Tornehm, maybe it is only the photo which has this chip
16:52:44Tornethe apple bootloader is a bit of a horrible mishmash, it may support both
16:52:52Torneit's anyway
16:53:23Tornethe encoder probably is built into the bcm on the video
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17:34:20CIA-8New commit by tomers (r24775): FS #10485 - Some changes for brickmania
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17:57:30Blue_DudeWow, what happened to simulator playback? I haven't tried to build one in a while, but it ain't working anymore. It chokes on wav files now, blanks the background, other oddities. What happened?
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18:23:36pixelmawhat a difference in today's commit message verbosity
18:24:42pixelmaI'd like to know what the brickmania changes do (and if and how they could affect look and gameplay on the different displays - and if that was tested a bit :\ )
18:29:01*gevaerts agrees
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18:37:54pixelmathere is some in the linked FS entry but still weird having to look someplace else
18:41:11AlexPpixelma: I agree too, and thought that when I saw the message
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19:05:43uepHey guys... just thought I'd let you guys know that the link for the Graphical installer for Linux (64 bit x86) doesn't work.
19:05:54uepI get a 404 - Not Found.
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19:06:19uepFrom this page
19:10:37saratogaits actually
19:11:54uepI found it from browsing the downloads, but I thought I'd point out that the link doesn't work.
19:12:35uepUnfortunately, the installer doesn't work for my H10 though.
19:13:06uepI get the dreaded "To restore the system files, connect H10 to the recovery tool."
19:13:14saratogaok fixed the wiki
19:13:24uepI had this problem before and installed manually without problem, looks like I'll have to do it again.
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19:39:42uepArgh. Not as simple as I had hoped. Why do these things never *just* work for me. :-/
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19:48:46sudomanis there a reason FS #6697 isn't currently implemented?
19:52:53AlexPAt a guess - it isn't finished/done correctly/nobody with commit access has reviewed it/insert other reason here
19:53:39sudomani would test it, but i can't get the cross-compiler to build on my ppc mac.
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20:07:06piotrekmTheSeven: How's the norboot progress?
20:08:44TheSevenpiotrekm: I would consider it mostly done
20:08:53TheSevenit still needs a foolproof installation procedure though
20:09:02piotrekmthat's good
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20:10:43pixelmabluebrother: what exactly needs testing with the RbUtil on MacOS 10.4 - and can I get it from the link you pasted yesterday
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20:19:50piotrekmDoes anyone have an iTrip fm transmitter for nano2g? it seems to be working only on the of (using nano's lcd), i wonder if it would take much to support it in rockbox
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20:20:41TheSevenyou would probably need to implement the uart
20:20:45TheSevenshouldn't be hard
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20:22:14piotrekms/you/one , then it shouldn't be hard;>
20:23:02TheSevenit seems to match the specs, besides the fact that the baud rate divisor reg is only 8 bits instead of 16
20:23:13TheSevenwe used that to dump the firmware once
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20:24:59piotrekmbut you don't mean it's a matter of changing one value?
20:25:17TheSevenprobably it's adding some 50 lines of code
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20:26:30Linux1Slackeranyone know where i can get iriver firmware downloads???
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20:29:30Linux1Slackeranyone know where i can get iriver firmware downloads???
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20:32:15Linux1Slackersrry thanks Alex
20:33:09AlexPno problem
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20:37:09JdGordon_AlexP: just to be annoying, I've update the fm patch again. can you tell me if you think its updating too often/not enough?
20:37:22JdGordon_pixelma: the peakmeters should update correctly now, please let me know if it doesnt
20:37:24AlexPThe task or the patch? :)
20:37:34AlexPThe task is being uodated quite often enough thanks :)
20:37:57AlexPBut yeah, I'll try shortly :)
20:42:00pixelmahmm... can't find out how to select a folder (or even root) of my connected M5 on the Mac for generating .talk files. The "select folder" dialogue only shows the root of the system and I can't find the connected volumes there :\
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20:42:46pixelmaautodetecting the M5 in general seems to work in the RbUtil, though
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20:45:21sudomanpixelma: try /Volumes/IPOD/whatever
20:45:30sudomanbut use the volume name instead of IPOD
20:45:49pixelmaI can't find it in the list there (in RbUtil)
20:45:58sudomanoh it's a gui?
20:46:17AlexPyes, rbutil
20:47:08pixelmaI mean the "browse folders" (or however it is called in english) on the generate .talk files tab
20:48:23pixelmainstalling a theme worked correctly nonetheless, so the Utility definitely knows about the connected M5
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20:49:43sudomanyeah, i see what you mean. /Volumes is normally hidden in the finder, so the dialogue must be hiding hidden folders
20:50:39pixelmaah ok, should it work if I set the finder to show hidden files?
20:50:52gevaertsin Qt apps you can usually show those anyway by right-clicking I think, but I'm not sure how that works on mac
20:51:45sudomanpixelma: don't now.
20:52:09gevaertsit's worth trying I guess
20:52:27pixelmaright-clicking where? And you know, the concept of two (or more) button mice came quite late to the Macs...
20:52:30sudomani'm just noting the similarity with the finder. don't know if it's a program setting or the system and how that could be changed
20:52:40sudomantry ctrl-click
20:53:21*gevaerts can't remember :\
20:53:29gevaertsthe file listing or something like that
20:54:21sudomanalso clicking the drop-down triangle in the dialog is really slow the first time you click it. it hangs the dialog but there's no spinning beachball.
20:54:22pixelmaI can't find a simple file listing there
20:55:10sudomanpixelma: type /Volumes in the text box next to the browse button, then click browse
20:55:57pixelmaah, thanks. That worked :)
20:56:06sudomanthen click the device name, click ok, then type /.rockbox then click browse, then select your folder ; )
20:56:17sudomanbecause .rockbox is hidden too.
20:56:35gevaertsyou're not very likely to need talk files for things inside .rockbox
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20:56:46pixelmawell, I don't have my music in my .rockbox folder
20:57:07sudomanok, i thought that was for the install directory or something
20:59:26pixelmaas I said, autodetecting and intalling themes work. Things where the Utility choses the folder by itself.
21:01:38*pixelma still wishes the "generate talk files" would stay and not go all the way back to the accessibility tab - or at least keep all its settings
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21:13:08piotrekmHas anyone tried (successfuly) building the crosscompiler on mac os x?
21:13:26JdGordon_on intel it shuold work fine
21:13:31JdGordon_on PPC its browen
21:15:34piotrekmJdGordon: also with, or manually? with rockboxdev i get
21:16:03AlexPwith rockboxdev
21:16:38sudomani'm not positive, but i think i got similar errors trying to run as when i attempted to build gcc4.0.3 on my own. so i'm trying to build gcc4.0.4 with macports. if it works, it could give insight into what flags might need to be used to get to work.
21:17:41piotrekmyeah, now i noticed the arm-elf part built ok, only the gcc 4 failed
21:18:56AlexPJdGordon_: Anything I should be looking for in particular? It all looks fine
21:19:04freddybI traced the ui simulator wav file problem to changes in r24689
21:19:19JdGordon_AlexP: just that it updates as expceted
21:19:28AlexPyep, looks like it
21:19:51JdGordon_right now it does a full update whenever anything changes instead of partial, but I dont think thats a big deal
21:20:01JdGordon_unlike the wps, the fms is pretty damn static
21:20:24AlexPFrom an outward perspective it all looks fine
21:20:42pixelmabluebrother: ok, if the Rockbox Utility would actually have to generate .talk files, it only sits at "Lese Dateiliste" although it fires up the voice over utility
21:23:12piotrekmno... the arm-elf gcc also didn't compile
21:23:25sudomannvm, i tried building gcc4.0.4 using macports and apple gcc4.2.1, but it didn't work...
21:23:38pixelmabluebrother: if I close the latter, RbUtil shows "Kodieren of /tmp/talkfiles/<some hash> fehlgeschlagen
21:24:23pixelmasorry, that's missing a .wav after the hash
21:25:47pixelmaI saved the log if you are interested
21:26:11*pixelma goes home now, hence stop testing RbUtil on MacOS 10.4
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21:47:54mc2739mt: there seems to be problems with wave file playback since your atrac3 commit (r24689) - see FS #11038
21:50:26CIA-8New commit by alle (r24776): Add some more file extensions to the table of the audio files (FS #11002)
21:51:33AlexPJdGordon_: The fms patch doesn't seem to compile on H120 -
21:52:10JdGordon_one of those lines is missing a R probably
21:53:37AlexPJdGordon_: yep, both are FMS
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21:53:54JdGordon_the one inside HAVE_LCD_REMOTE needs a R
21:54:03AlexPtrying now
21:55:21AlexPseems fine, cheers
21:58:10pixelmamc2739: did you see my small complaint about the German update commit?
21:59:23mc2739pixelma: Yes, I did. I was not aware of that, but it makes perfect sense to me.
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22:01:22pixelmagreat, thank :)
22:01:34pixelmaor thanks
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22:08:36saratogais cpu scaling already in for the nano2g?
22:09:07JdGordon_AlexP: anything you think is missing in the fms patch?
22:09:40saratogaah looks like it is
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22:14:01leavittxHey there! Does anyone know, is there any 3d graphics library for rockbox (for writing plugins)?
22:14:35leavittxDon't recommend the cube demo :P
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22:14:56JdGordon_there arnt
22:16:15leavittxbut what about void xxx_filltriangle(int x1, int y1, int x2, int y2, int x3, int y3)3)3)3) Fill a triangular area with foreground pixels. Useful for 3-d rendering.
22:16:25leavittxthis is from the manual
22:16:46Unhelpfulleavittx: i don't see anything about 3D transformation there ;)
22:16:59gevaertswell, drawing lines is useful for 3-d rendering...
22:17:55CIA-8New commit by mc2739 (r24777): Updated Chinese Translation ...
22:17:58JdGordon_surely drawiung pixels is more importabnt?
22:18:53leavittxI wanna something like ogl :)
22:19:05gevaertsthen write it!
22:19:14gevaerts(or port mesa)
22:19:41leavittxok, there is cube plugin and nothing else 3d, right?
22:20:04gevaertswell, doom is half-3d, but maybe that doesn't count
22:20:48leavittxgevaerts: doom doesn't count :)
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22:21:04leavittxJdGordon_: what is 1.5b?
22:21:14Unhelpfulleavittx: generic 3D libraries don't work well with software rasterization.
22:21:17JdGordon_half-3d :)
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22:22:55Unhelpfulsurely d/2 == 6.5?
22:24:06leavittxUnhelpful: well, my Cowon d2 in theory has H/W Video Accelerator/Support 3D
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22:32:35leavittxso what do you think about d2?
22:32:44bluebrotherpixelma: thanks for testing. The most interesting question was if it actually runs on 10.4 at all or if it still shows the libusb issue that has been reported in the tracker.
22:33:20pixelmadidn't see problems there with the M5
22:33:32bluebrotherpixelma: I'll look into the other issues you mentioned later, but the OS X TTS would be interesting −− once I get it finished. Might happen this weekend :)
22:33:54bluebrotheryou used the dmg from the link I pasted yesterday, right?
22:34:17leavittxbtw, how to use the whole touchscreen in usual plugins, not lua? I say about d2 again :)
22:35:07pixelmabluebrother: ok, I misunderstood you there a bit - I thought it was ready for testing (the tts thing). Yes, I used yesterday's dmg
22:35:21*bluebrother summons Bagder
22:35:44Bagderyou called good sir?
22:35:46bluebrotherBagder: can you move the file from to the download server and remove the old 1.2.5 dmg?
22:35:51Bagderwill do!
22:36:03AlexPJdGordon_: Multifont in WPS should work on H120 right?
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22:36:04bluebrotherthanks :)
22:36:39JdGordon_AlexP: if it doesnt its proably out of skin buffer space
22:36:42Bagder2720KB/sec is a nice speed
22:36:59bluebrotherindeed. Especially if my upload was the same :)
22:37:07Bagderoh done btw, 16.5MB in less than 7 seconds
22:37:31*bluebrother goes to adjust the wiki
22:37:33AlexPJdGordon_: It doesn't give me an error (even if I deliberatly misspell the font name), and it says skin bufer 24404/44032
22:37:47JdGordon_svn or with patch?
22:37:51AlexPJdGordon_: This is my test WPS
22:37:59AlexPJdGordon_: Patch actually, I'll try SVN
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22:38:35JdGordon_is that the main screen or remote?
22:39:06JdGordon_interesting... it should be working
22:39:13JdGordon_(obviosusly :p )
22:39:27perfectdrugquick question, pixelma or any other X5 expert, has the X5 no battery calibration yet?
22:39:37AlexPJdGordon_: I'll just try SVN
22:40:07perfectdrugpixelma has no X5 sorry
22:40:53pixelmaperfectdrug: it does but Rockbox can't distinguish automatically between an L (large battery) and a simple model
22:41:09pixelmaI have an M5 though which is quite similar
22:41:24perfectdrugso does the runtime estimation work?
22:41:28gevaertsSome M5s are more similar than others of course :)
22:42:14perfectdrugor does it just not work if you use a bigger battery?
22:42:41perfectdrugah I see X5L
22:42:57pixelmayou can set the bigger capacity, then it should work somewhat. (although Iaudio batteries aren't the longest lasting it seems)
22:43:09perfectdrugso is there a extra setting for the X5L
22:43:17pixelmaI mean general lifetime
22:43:46JdGordon_petur: hey, did you see my comment on the histogram patch?
22:44:01pixelmaperfectdrug: IIRC the capacity for the L models is the maximum you can set
22:44:25AlexPJdGordon_: No, not working with SVN either. It just gets ignored - the viewports using font "2" are just using the UI font
22:44:27perfectdrugaha ok thanks:)
22:44:33*pixelma can actually look what her M5L is set to
22:45:07pixelmagevaerts: indeed :)
22:45:32peturJdGordon_: yes
22:45:49peturbut that doesn't mean I'll pay attention to it :P
22:46:42leavittxso what about non-3x3 touchscreen mode? :)
22:47:01leavittxfor my plugin
22:47:08gevaertswhat about it?
22:47:21leavittxwhich is written in c, not lua
22:47:22JdGordon_petur: :(
22:47:33leavittxfor my cowon d2
22:47:43JdGordon_leavittx: you can put the touchscreen back into stylus mode and use it however you want
22:48:47leavittxJdGordon_: where can I find any docs/header files/etc about writing such plugin?
22:49:37JdGordon_I dont know if there is any
22:49:48gevaertslook at how other plugins do it?
22:49:50JdGordon_its something like rb->set_touchscreen_mode()
22:50:07JdGordon_then get the raw values from rb->get_touch() or something
22:50:08peturJdGordon_: I promise I will help out with the WRS afterwards, but I'm not going to introduce histogram AND a viewport for it in the same commit. The other things (like peakmeters,..) need their own VP as well when you want to have them like widgets.
22:50:34leavittxgevaerts: what plugins? only lua plugins do it now!
22:50:45gevaertsthen look at the lua plugin!
22:51:38JdGordon_petur: fair enough, what about just moving the drawing out and using a simple x,y position instead of a full viewport?
22:52:47peturJdGordon_: sure, I have thought about that, but then for the VP you need to change that code again. Better do it right the first time, no?
22:53:21peturor do we forget about using VP, and just create widgets that get the rectangle coordinates in which they must draw?
22:54:22leavittxgevaerts: I'll try=)
22:56:45JdGordon_petur: the main thing I'm worried about is just adding more drawing code to that already messy loop
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22:56:59JdGordon_it just makes it easier later if its not tied in there
22:57:41leavittxgevaerts: lua/rocklib.c - that's it!
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23:03:45peturJdGordon_: it's not messy, it is just long. It used to be messy before the last rework
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23:08:04perfectdrugcan someone update the currentbuild page with this small image? and commit this while doing so
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23:12:52perfectdrugzagor did it last time, sorry for the incorrect image the first time
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23:18:49pixelmaJdGordon_: what's the syntax for the current station now?
23:19:10JdGordon_station or preset?
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23:22:22pixelmathat's very weird to answer as I don't know how you define station or preset (isn't "station" info only supported by RDS targets? So in my head station is the preset as it shows how the radio station is called if you prepared it correctly) on targets without)
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23:22:47JdGordon_try it this way, which tag are you asking about?
23:22:55JdGordon_the ones with the X all just had the X removed
23:22:59JdGordon_nothing else changed
23:23:18AlexP%tn is the current preset
23:24:02AlexPSorry, %Tn
23:26:49pixelmaI can't exit the radio screen anymore
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23:27:09JdGordon_LIES! :)
23:27:19JdGordon_do any buttons work?
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23:29:16AlexPJdGordon_: Is there anything I can do to investigate H120 multifont?
23:29:44JdGordon_you mean other than brushing up on c and learning how the skin engine and fonts all work together? :)
23:29:54AlexPyeah, other than that :)
23:30:13AlexPI meant any obvious things like change a define or something :)
23:30:27JdGordon_svn is broken also?
23:30:32AlexPseems to be
23:30:38JdGordon_the font exists?
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23:30:52JdGordon_and you are actually loading that wps?
23:30:52AlexPAnd shouldn't it give an error if it doesn't?
23:31:11JdGordon_it should, I don't know if thats hooked up though
23:31:14AlexPyes - the wps loads but the viewpoer with font "2" just uses the UI font
23:31:47AlexPSo even if the font loading doesn't give an error, the viewport definition should of font 2 isn't loaded right?
23:32:25AlexPThis is on the sim incidently
23:32:36JdGordon_the parser should error out if the font doesnt load (for any reason)
23:32:39TucknDarhi, I've encountered a problem when I installed RB on my iPod mini 2g. The I can't click the clickwheel. It works in apple firmware but not with Rockbox. I'd appreciate a solution or something to try :)
23:32:54AlexPpress harder :)
23:33:03JdGordon_the viewport will accept a id higher than 1, it just keeps trying the next lower font id untill one is loaded
23:33:16gevaertsTucknDar: do you happen to have replaced the hard drive with a CF card?
23:33:26JdGordon_AlexP: do you want to try the sim in gdb?
23:33:28AlexPOK, so it seems the font isn't loading, but I'm not getting an error
23:33:32TucknDargevaerts, yes. I was just typing that when you interrupted ;)
23:33:32AlexPJdGordon_: I can do
23:33:37TucknDarknown problem?
23:34:02pixelmaJdGordon_: it's very weird. In the patch's hardcoded FMS all buttons work, if I load an own FMS everything works except "long off" which is exiting the radio (real stop). My own FMS is actually simpler, the biggest difference I think is %wd
23:34:02gevaertsTucknDar: make sure to insert some card or things to make the CF card as thick as the hard drive
23:34:11JdGordon_AlexP: b parse_font_load
23:34:22JdGordon_then just keep hitting n untill before the return line
23:34:36*gevaerts has no idea why rockbox seems to be more sensitive to this than the OF, but that nevertheless seems to be the case
23:34:43pixelmaJdGordon_: the hardcoded one still doesn't change to showing the prerecording time if it is set
23:35:01TucknDargevaerts, oh, ok. I see. The clickwheel does seem to click further in, so to speak. I'll do that. Thanks!
23:35:11pixelmasomehow I still think about %pm having to be on its own line
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23:35:41JdGordon_pixelma: arg, I hope it doesnt have to be on its own line
23:35:43pixelmapeakmeters seem to update correctly now though
23:35:50AlexPJdGordon_: You're assuming slightly too much here :)
23:36:08JdGordon_yeah, umm... nano doesnt show line numbers
23:36:20JdGordon_AlexP: file a bug and I'll investigate on sunday
23:36:25AlexPOK, cheers :)
23:36:34AlexPIt seems the easiest solution :)
23:36:37pixelmaI'll remove the %wd
23:36:56JdGordon_that shouldnt make a difference
23:37:01JdGordon_interesting to know if it does thoguh
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23:43:19pixelmait doesn't
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23:45:15JdGordon_pixelma: can you post your fms on the tracker with a short description of the problem?
23:46:17JdGordon_i cant tihnk of any reason why the stop button would stop working
23:46:23pixelmaI can though I doubt it's the FMS because it is a very simple one and other than that it works
23:46:25JdGordon_especially if al other buttons work fine
23:47:00JdGordon_can you add %pm to your one and see if that breaks it?
23:47:15JdGordon_or makes it work even
23:48:59soapfor all of those who got the "reported post" email re:Job Van Dam's signature - it has been fixed (removed) and more importantly I have notified him - so let's not send him duplicate emails.
23:49:22*JdGordon_ is now curios :p
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23:49:38amiconnUnhelpful: ping
23:50:34soapThe problem was his sig was an image (small in size) hosted on some free server. His account ran out and they replaced it (the sig image) with a HUGE advertisement. Why does the forum code allow for massive sig images?
23:53:02pixelmaJdGordon_: there already is %pm and it is broke - I could try if removing it helps but as I said, the hardcoded one in your patch works and contains %p. Next test is a blank FMS or just text to see if it is only important if you have an own fms or not
23:54:26JdGordon_the reason I mentinoed %pm is because that actually does change the button handling code
23:54:30AlexPJdGordon_: Sorry, was in the wrong channnel - p id $1 = -1 p font_ids[i] No symbol "i" in current context. p font_ids[id] $2 = 3
23:55:01pixelmabut while at it I noticed something. The line "%?Rr<%Sx|Time:| %Rh:%Rn:%Rs|" from your patch doesn't show up at all, no matter if you are recording or not - I see the peakmeters right below the progressbar
23:55:42JdGordon_AlexP: a few lines up if if (id <= FONT_UI || ....)
23:55:59JdGordon_can you change that to id < SYSTEMFONTCOUNT and try again please?
23:56:01pixelmathere's no \n at the end as in the other lines
23:56:11AlexPJdGordon_: yep
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23:56:37JdGordon_pixelma: that is split to make it more readable, it should be one line in the skin code, so thats correct
23:56:43JdGordon_the contioinal shuold wor though
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23:58:05pixelmaoh, that belongs together with the prerecording/peakmeter line
23:58:45JdGordon_I tried my best to convert the c code to skin

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