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#rockbox log for 2010-02-26

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00:04:38gevaertsI assume that fixing an occasional build failure in a way that causes a guaranteed build failure will be frowned upon?
00:07:11Bagdershaky and no focus
00:07:28Bagdermakes my wonder why people do these things
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00:09:07TheSevenBagder: why does he want people to restore their ipods needlessly?
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00:25:36gevaertsthis pdbox plugin is no fun
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01:52:48S_a_i_n_tJdGordon: I had an idea...but I'm not sure if it'd be a: possible, or b: if anyone else would like it implemented as much as myself but here goes..."Howabout a user skinable scrollbar?"
01:53:07JdGordonyou've been told before about having ideas!
01:53:16S_a_i_n_tThe only thing that stops me using the scrollbar is its ugly..and doesn't fir in with my themes very well at all.
01:53:23JdGordonskinnable in what sense?
01:53:35S_a_i_n_tthink progress bar
01:55:59 Quit CaptainKewl (Ping timeout: 276 seconds), is there any merit in this idea do you think?
01:58:01S_a_i_n_t*occasionally I have good ones.
02:00:20JdGordonthere are architectural problems with trying to skin the lists too much
02:01:29JdGordonit would be nice to create a skin for the list, but its really not possible at the moment
02:01:43JdGordoneven splitting it up for the items, title, bar, etc is difficult
02:03:26JdGordonwe *might* be able to do it through the sbs
02:03:42S_a_i_n_tyes, that part I understand. I find the scrollbar really usefull (especially when using a UI viewport, as sometimes its not immediately apparent that the list being viewed is longer than the screen size), but its just *so* damn ugly IMO XD
02:08:48JdGordondamn you!
02:09:04*JdGordon is really never going to finish the fms patch at this rate!
02:12:32JdGordonyeah, maybe it would be pretty simple to pass off the title and scrollbar drawing to the sbs
02:16:09JdGordonok, so for the list title... should I overcomplicate it and force a special viewport? or just fix it up so %Lt will display the title text whereever it is in the skin?
02:16:48JdGordonyou could then do %?Lt<%Vdt|> to change the looks if the list has a title or not
02:17:43JdGordonI guess the scrollbar would have to be sort of the same\
02:17:58JdGordonmaybe closer to the AA stuff, so you have a load tag and a display/avialble? tag
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02:20:02S_a_i_n_tOhhh...right, are you still looking for a way for the current screen to be able to pass info to the title-bar?
02:20:14S_a_i_n_tI was talking about that yesterday actually.
02:22:05S_a_i_n_tI remember seeing somewhere (I think) you talking about the %cs tag...and how it would be easierif the current screen could pass a title to the title-bar.
02:23:19JdGordonnot easier, better
02:23:38JdGordon%cs isnt really a good option for figuring out what to display
02:23:40S_a_i_n_tIt annoys me (and its purely cosmetic) that when browsing through the menus that the title bar reports the folder name for fonts, wps, themes etc. and as isn;t capitalised.
02:24:54JdGordonthats easy to fix
02:24:58JdGordonwe do it for the plugins menus
02:25:47S_a_i_n_tlike Settings/Theme Settings/ soon as you enter it, the title-bar displays "font". Whereas (IMHO) it should be "Font"
02:26:11S_a_i_n_tsame for wps, and themes (and probably others)
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02:45:56JdGordonok, maybe this could work
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03:20:10S_a_i_n_tIf it *is* easy to fix ( "it" being non capitalised Title-Bar entries...), I'd really like to see it happen. It would make the menus a *lot* more consistent (aestheticly that is...)
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03:20:43S_a_i_n_t*but its hardly a "must do" situation :D
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03:37:44tmzthuh, that's ironic
03:42:50JdGordonwhy the hell isnt the sbs updating?
03:44:16JdGordonarg.. %s is semi broken :/
03:47:00JdGordonHZ/2 delay chaning screens :(
03:54:32S_a_i_n_tI think sbs *and* wps have problems updating...hence my problems with sublines...
03:54:54S_a_i_n_twhich reminds me, I still need to put that on the tracker.
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04:15:09*JdGordon has list title text in sbs working :)
04:15:20JdGordonnow to fix the icon also and commit
04:15:25JdGordonthen scrollbar!
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04:23:18S_a_i_n_tJdGordon: .diff me?
04:23:29JdGordonpatients :)
04:23:36JdGordonumm.. wrong one :p
04:23:48JdGordonfuck, i cant speel :p
04:23:54S_a_i_n_theheh :D
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04:25:07*S_a_i_n_t added FS #11058 - Conditional Viewports break Alternating Sublines
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04:28:01JdGordonthats a dupe I tihnk
04:28:24S_a_i_n_t....ahhhhh shit.
04:28:51JdGordon%Li is the icon, %Lt is the text
04:29:09JdGordon%?Li<lots of icons....>
04:29:53JdGordonit has a slight problem with themed skins without a list control
04:30:33S_a_i_n_tI'm not sure I get the icon part...
04:30:54S_a_i_n_tis that 0~32?
04:31:26JdGordonits the internal themed icons
04:34:15S_a_i_n_taha, sweet, so the title that's called is dependent on the icon? " %?Li<%LtMy Title-Bar Title|etc.|etc...>"?
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04:40:16JdGordonI would do it %?Lt<%Li<.........> %Lt|>
04:40:27JdGordon%Li is always going to have a value, Lt wont
04:41:41JdGordonall glory to the hypnotoad!
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04:45:44CIA-5New commit by jdgordon (r24917): 2 new tags for the base skin. ...
04:47:38S_a_i_n_t*slightly* off-topic...but I have an .mp3 of the "hypnotoad noise" floating around somewhere :D
04:50:46S_a_i_n_tJdGordon: Hmmm, this way, the Titlt-Bar could use
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04:51:05JdGordonthats the point :)
04:51:27JdGordonwe should start seeing more interesting themes soon... I hope :p
04:52:19S_a_i_n_tpeople also have the potential to mess up their menus spectacularly now...but that's their problem :P
04:54:30S_a_i_n_tI'm not sure I'm understanding the syntax of "%?Lt<%Li<.........> %Lt|>", could you give me a better example string please?
04:54:46S_a_i_n_thow=wrong Title for the screen.
04:55:10S_a_i_n_tI guess that's not *spectacular* but could be annoying :D
04:56:19JdGordon%?Lt<%?Li<|one|two|three|....|> %Lt|>
04:58:07S_a_i_n_tI don't get what the last %lt is for...
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04:59:11JdGordonto display the text
04:59:16JdGordondrongo :D
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05:02:54S_a_i_n_twouldn't %?Li<|%LtMy Title One|%LtMy Title Two|%LtMy Title Three|..etc...|> do the same thing?
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05:03:42JdGordonno... there are only 30odd icons and over 100 different titles...
05:04:44S_a_i_n_tdon't several things use the same icon though?
05:04:56S_a_i_n_tand in turn, wouldn;t they then share the same title?
05:05:03punkboyhey hey, how do i confirm what I typed in the typing dialog on my D2? (e.g. save slot of rockboy)
05:05:26JdGordonalmost all settings use the same icon
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05:07:07S_a_i_n_tpunkboy: can you perhaps rephrase that question please?
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05:09:26punkboyS_a_i_n_t: ok: i don't know how to confirm what i typed in the tiping dialog as seen in the rockboy menu for save-states
05:09:50punkboythe one black on white with alphabet and signs
05:09:57punkboyoh white on black
05:12:22punkboyoh and can someone tell me what timescale algorithm is used in rockbox to speed and pitch the audio?
05:13:17S_a_i_n_taha...I don;t have that target, but it should be the same (-ish)....once you've entered your text (what you want the save to be called) press play/pause
05:13:26S_a_i_n_tthat's how the iPods do it anyway...
05:14:57punkboyS_a_i_n_t: It's a touchscreen without that...
05:15:17S_a_i_n_tthere are *some* buttons on the cowon d2
05:15:36S_a_i_n_tand have you tried tham all?
05:15:49punkboyi think so
05:16:03punkboythe touchscreen is just like 9 buttons aswell
05:16:44S_a_i_n_twell, I'm fairly confident its going to be one of the actual buttons...and not the touchscreen, but I don't have that its pure speculation.
05:18:16punkboyhm... they are just left,right,make-letter,cancel and hold
05:18:35punkboyI can live wothout it
05:19:08S_a_i_n_ttry to scroll so all the text is highlighted, and *then* try various buttons.
05:22:13punkboyhm ok
05:22:25punkboybut I never saw anything highlighted :)
05:22:29punkboywell thx anyway
05:22:40punkboyI'm to tired now and I will smaash some buttons tomorrow
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05:57:46JdGordonsomone need to implement vertical progress bars :/
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07:17:07CIA-5New commit by jdgordon (r24918): small change to how the quickscreen fixes its viewports
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07:34:30teruJdGordon: re: r24917. I think you need to modify list_display_title() in gui/list.c. Using %Lt, when I scroll to end of list, list shows strange empty line.
07:35:06JdGordonthis is without a sbs right?
07:36:42JdGordonwhats your config.cfg?
07:39:20teruI put %?Lt<%Lt|> in my sbs. am i clear?
07:40:59JdGordonah, OK, I see the problem here
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07:45:51CIA-5New commit by jdgordon (r24919): Fix the list showing an empty line at the bottom if the sbs is handling the title
07:45:54JdGordonteru: thanks, fixed
07:55:12*moos reminds once again to JdGordon that he still have to fix a serious issue: THE ROCKBOX BOOT TIME !!!!
07:55:32JdGordonI'm still waiting for benchmarks to prove the issue is there :)
07:56:36moosthen you commit code that we are forced to test/benchmarck to have you to fix them? :(
07:57:49JdGordonactually, *if* there is an issue its not the theme stuff at all, its the fact that the rest of the settings take too long to apply
07:57:52*moos reminds to JdGordon that boot time was one of the best advantage over OF in the rockbox debut. But since your sbs works (very nice so far) boot time is looooooooooooong
07:58:00JdGordonthe theme stuff still is only read once
07:58:16mooslooong time even with no sbs etc...
07:58:33JdGordongive me numbers
08:00:00moosrevision number you mean?
08:00:13moosor boot time comparaisons?
08:00:24JdGordontime comparissons
08:01:03moosgrr !!!!
08:01:49moosthen you don't want to do it yourself? I already gave you some simple stats easy to check using the dircache time counting
08:02:26moosbut you can just see yourself if you boot before and after the big sbs commit
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08:03:28*moos try to attract amiconn's attention in case he can help him with some numbers
08:04:07moosthe thing that is pitty that is we are not a lot it seems to be annoyed by this very long boot time :/
08:04:28JdGordonbecause its a non issue! :)
08:04:39mooshehe :)
08:04:42JdGordonare you talking 10s difference? or .5?
08:05:42moosindeed, /me give to JdGordon iriver h1xx series OF to play with a dap that needed 2min to start, merci rockbox !
08:05:56mooswe are talking fixing your commited code ;)
08:06:20JdGordonI've got a h300... I know all about painful boot times
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08:06:28JdGordonmy question still stands
08:06:33JdGordonwhats the time difference?
08:06:45moosmaybe we could have the same sbs features, but with 5sec less at boot just fixing maybe a stupid init or something :/
08:07:13moosJdGordon: what make me very wondering on this, is why you don't want to test yourself?
08:07:47JdGordonbecause it doesnt affect me, and if its target dependant then I probably wont hit it anyway
08:07:54JdGordonits not the sbs code doing the slowdown
08:08:11moosat least just because is your code (merci again for it), and because rockbox rules the DAP world, and that boot time is important imho !
08:08:28moosduh :/ "don't affect me"
08:08:52moosyou affected all rockbox users across all targets to any generations :/
08:08:58moosnot nice on this :(
08:09:25moosJdGordon: what could cause this slow down then for you?
08:10:34JdGordonlike I said. if there is a slow down its because settings_apply() is called twice on boot, the first time doesnt touch the disk, the 2nd does. the only change is calling all those non disk inits a 2nd time
08:11:51JdGordontry this diff...
08:12:02moosbut God oh God, why we still saw rockbox logo for ages, we had pretty speedy boot during years!
08:12:23JdGordontry that diff
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08:13:00moosand again, on the boot process, the localiszations for string splashes is broken since :/
08:13:08JdGordonTRY THAT DIFF
08:13:14moosdoes this don't affect you too? ;)
08:13:27JdGordonI speak english so no :)
08:15:59moosJdGordon: where is your rockbox spirit for this ?!?
08:16:34CIA-5New commit by teru (r24920): font.c: correct checking cache_fd. remove some trailing spaces.
08:16:36JdGordontry that bloody diff! it reverts the only thing which could cause the slow down, and fixes the statusbar on splash AND THE BOODY LANG ISSUE
08:17:38moosJdGordon: missed it, soryy, I'm on the process to leave for works. If none tried it, I will later on the day
08:21:01JdGordongrr... bertriks code policing breaks the svn blame output :<
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08:30:36JdGordonanyone got a good theme for the mini2g? I cant stand cabbie on it
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08:47:47JdGordonbloody hell... the sim and target inits are acting differently with the splash
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08:48:06JdGordonon the sim the statusbar isnt show, but on target it is :/
08:48:18JdGordonisnt shown over the splash that is
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09:01:43CIA-5New commit by jdgordon (r24922): split the theme settings apply() sutff out of settings_apply(). this should fix splashes not being loc'ed, statusbar over the splash (fixed in sim, ...
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09:20:09JdGordonfrom the manual... "In contrast to all other items, the status bar is always at the top of the screen." wrong wrong wong WRONG
09:20:35rasherJdGordon: This is your fault.
09:29:05pixelmaand: you can change it
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09:34:41*Unhelpful thinks that teru's patch looks fine but isn't sure whether we ought to use MIN or MAX there - the difference being that MAX will scale *down* one dimension to correct aspect ratio, where MIN will scale the other *up*.
09:40:28JdGordonany ideas how to fix that 64bit warning?
09:40:38JdGordon(void*)(first_boot?0:1) doesnt remove it
09:42:44UnhelpfulJdGordon: i'll look in a minute :)
09:42:58JdGordondw, go it :)
09:43:15JdGordonnot so nice and porbaly not even worth the check, but meh
09:43:30CIA-5New commit by jdgordon (r24923): fix 64bit warning
09:44:49Unhelpful(void*)(intptr_t) might've worked as well, but this is probably more readable?
09:45:09JdGordonI tried that and it didnt like it
09:45:18JdGordonmaybe I had the ()'s in the wrong place
10:03:38JdGordonanyone know what the story with the ipod accessory patches is?
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10:52:26leftrightHi, I'm using the Cowon D2 Sim as my music player on my pc, I'd like to thank you guys for doing a fine job with the Sim/player, it works beautifully
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10:55:05Zagorleftright: nice!
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10:59:45leftrightThe Cowon D2 is in my opinion well suited for pc use due to the touch screen
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11:00:58gevaertsleftright: since a few weeks we also have proper click support for buttons in the sim
11:02:33*n1s is amazed by how much has happened since he came in here last
11:03:04leftrightit's great, truly user friendly
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11:25:22*S_a_i_n_t wonders what all the fuss about the apparent ".sbs boot time/slowdown issue" is for...
11:25:39S_a_i_n_t*Personally* my boot time is fine, .sbs or no.
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11:28:41pixelmamaybe because you didn't get used to boot times without sbs things in the firmware (the problem is here that people experience longer times than before even without sbs)
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11:29:33S_a_i_n_tHmmm...I dunno about that, I've been using RB for about 2 years now.
11:29:48S_a_i_n_tPerhaps the difference is that all my targets are flash based.
11:30:25S_a_i_n_tI boot to the main screen in less than 2 seconds.
11:31:11wohello, I there some ld script guru? I would like to ask for help in tweaking for coldfire target to load bootloader into IRAM to make BDM debugging easy
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11:38:17pixelmaS_a_i_n_t: boot time seems longer to me too (felt 3-4 seconds) on my SSD M5 (which is a somewhat flash target now too)
11:44:04S_a_i_n_tHmmm...perhaps its a hardware thing? I'm not sure, I have 4 iPod Nanos (two 2g and two 1g) and the boot time for the 1g's is about 2 seconds, and for the 2g's it's ever so *slightly* slower (perhaps 0.5 seconds or so). The only way I can even tell there is a slightly longer boot time on the 2g's is by booting them at the same time, side-by-side.
11:46:10S_a_i_n_tRockbox and the bootloader *is* installed to the OSOS however, but on flash based targets I don't think that makes much of a difference at *does* make a difference, but not one that you can say "Oh my god! That's *so* much faster"
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12:53:30moosS_a_i_n_t: Hi, to answer to your question. That's nothing, just that we lost around 4-5sec on boot (HD targets) since the big commit about sbs. My words maybe ounds to you not so gently, but we just report this to the author of this (JdGordon :p) few times, and he always says that there was no time penality, that that'just a placebo effect.
12:53:46moosand each rt
12:54:30moosand eachj time it did seems that he didn't even to look to his commited work unless *we* prove him this loose.
12:55:00S_a_i_n_tPersonally...I don't think .sbs is to blame.
12:55:29S_a_i_n_tI think its just a coincidence that .sbs was committed at the time the apparent "slowdown" happened.
12:55:53moosI just wanted to bug him again in hope he looks at it to try to fix his *tested*? code
12:56:23S_a_i_n_tI've tried reverting to a "pre .sbs" revision...and there is no boost in speed for me.
12:56:31moosS_a_i_n_t: I gave him the culprit revision ie the big commit about .sbs
12:57:51moosS_a_i_n_t: the point was at least since that is his code, maybe he could have do a quick tests to see... (in a perfect world he would test this *before* to commit)
12:58:39S_a_i_n_tAssuming he didn't test it before commiting is perhaps a bit naive...
12:58:54linuxstbmoos: Have you opened a flyspray task with the details?
12:59:09moosS_a_i_n_t: I'm using rockbox every day since 5 years, then not hard to notice a freeze on rockbox logo (where that never was) and easy to see that dircache scan take 3 extra seconds
12:59:41S_a_i_n_tI haven't really seen anyone else complaing of "drastic slowdown" at boot time since .sbs (or *because* of .sbs)
13:00:06mooslinuxstb: technicly that not a bug no? Since we could have untuntially sacrifice few seconds at boot for x or y needed feature
13:00:09S_a_i_n_tWell, .sbs isn't going to affect dircache
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13:00:40moosS_a_i_n_t: dir scan at *boot* !!!
13:01:46mooslinuxstb: and we bug him about a few times (mainly me, amiconn and maybe pixelma) because people seems to don(t mind/don't notice
13:01:50linuxstbmoos: I would say open a task anyway, so there is somewhere to discuss it. If the concensus is that it is not a bug, then it can easily be closed as such.
13:02:59S_a_i_n_tWell...again, I have *never* seen *either* of those issues on my DAP's...but the difference seems to be that HD targets are slowed?
13:03:00mooslinuxstb: first I will have to see if after all, he fixed the issue in 24929
13:03:14mooslinuxstb: (but not right now, lunch time :)
13:03:17S_a_i_n_tMy DAP's (all flash based) still bot just as fast as they used to
13:03:32S_a_i_n_tor, not noticably slower at least....
13:04:02moosyup that is extra HD calls, and then power consumption....
13:05:09linuxstbmoos: 24929? SVN only goes to 24923...
13:05:54moosS_a_i_n_t: that isn't a placebo, since we used to have before a super speedy boot (where the rockbox logo don't even had the time to appear and bahm)
13:06:17mooslinuxstb: sorry, last functionnal changes revision :)
13:07:37S_a_i_n_tmoos: Have you considered the possability of it being a hardware fault? Does you OF still boot at a decent speed?
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13:08:22S_a_i_n_twhen you said it takes you like 2minues to boot to RB, I almost fainted! it takes me less than 2seconds
13:08:27moosnote the term used "supposed"
13:08:44moos2 min to load the iriver firmware !!!
13:08:52moosand I test on different targets
13:09:00senkovychHi, sorry about such question, but i cannot compile rockbox simulator. Problem is about undefined reference to such basic functions like sqrt, dlopeen/close/etc. I realise that to solve it i have only to add -lm and -ldl options, but i cannot understand which make file to edit.
13:09:26B4gderyou should not need to do that
13:10:35senkovychok, how to solve?
13:10:55B4gderwhat system are you building this on?
13:11:06senkovychubuntu 10.04
13:11:40senkovycheverything else compiled well - bootloader, rockbox himself
13:12:14S_a_i_n_tmoos: I'm not saying that its not an issue, or that its not happening...but I do however find it strange that the RB Forums aren't full of "WTF!?! Why does RB boot so slowly now?" threads...You're the only one (so far) that I've (personally) seen to have an issue with extended boot time.
13:12:30S_a_i_n_tmoos: How's that WPS going for you by the way?
13:14:22moosS_a_i_n_t: don't waste your tim/thought on it. Those extra seconds maybe came from my fingers, hence he affect all my DAPs. And I of course tried the default setting (I did test plenty of things before even for JdGordon:)
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13:14:54linuxstbsenkovych: Do you have the "build-essential" package installed? Maybe something is missing.
13:15:00moosplus Arnold's fingers :)
13:15:50linuxstbsenkovych: Also, which simulator are you trying to build?
13:16:01senkovychYes, i have. And libc6 also, of course.
13:16:36senkovychlinuxstb: for Cowon D2
13:17:20*linuxstb notices senkovych said Ubuntu 10.04 - a release that hasn't happened yet...
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13:17:57senkovychlinuxstb: i understand, in fact 90% of packages aren'ty updated - only KDE
13:18:05linuxstbsenkovych: According to our automated builds page, the D2 sim works fine, so it must be a local problem -
13:18:12senkovychso i don't think it's a reason
13:18:24B4gdersenkovych: so the link that builds rockboxui is what fails?
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13:18:48senkovych/usr/bin/ld: /media/large/rockbox/build/uisimulator/uisimulator/libuisimulator.a(uisdl.o): in function gui_message_loop:/media/large/rockbox/uisimulator/sdl/uisdl.c:147: error: undefined reference to 'sqrt'
13:19:18senkovychalso undefined reference to "dlopen" "dlerror" "dlsym" etc
13:23:27senkovychok. can i somehow order make to show its commands - not just "CC rockboxui" but "gcc ...rockboxui.c ... −−"
13:23:35linuxstbmake V=1
13:26:15senkovychso i added -lm and -ldl to gcc command and it compiled
13:26:37senkovychafter I run make - it continues successfully
13:27:49linuxstbLooking at the generated Makefile in your build directory, the only lib specified explicitly is -lsdl (the LDOPTS line). You could try adding -lm and -ldl to that line. So it seems that your library dependencies are wrong.
13:29:04senkovychi said that at my first post, but B4gder dissuaded me
13:30:09senkovychanyway i've successfully compiled simulator, thanks
13:30:20B4gdersorry, my first hunch should always be that the user has a messed system :-)
13:31:04B4gderI assume that's because you have a static SDL lib or something
13:31:15B4gderso that the other libs aren't pulled in as we assume they will
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13:32:49senkovychanother question - it there some project file that includes all sources?
13:33:17B4gderproject file?
13:33:27senkovychwell, some kind of .pro
13:33:36senkovychto open whole rockbox in some IDE
13:34:01B4gderand all files at once?
13:34:26B4gderbut to answer the question: no there isn't
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13:36:38linuxstbB4gder: But is it "the right thing" for Rockbox to assume that sdl will bring in libm and lbidl?
13:40:00ZagorI don't see how it would hurt adding -lm and -ldl to the link line
13:41:22B4gderno, it is the proper thing to do
13:41:30linuxstbIs libdl used on Windows?
13:42:04*linuxstb sees a #define dlopen(_x_, _y_) LoadLibraryW(UTF8_TO_OS(_x_)) for WIN32
13:42:41Zagormore ifdefs!
13:43:36linuxstbLooking at configure, there are different LDOPTS= lines for different platforms, so we can just add -ldl for Unix...
13:58:43AlexPmoos: I also have the feeling that my beast is slower to boot, but as I haven't bothered to test/time, I haven't said anything
13:59:01AlexPmoos: Did you say that you had isolated the commit that causes it? If so, I can check
14:01:03moosIf you have the opportunity (it seems that I still didn't found one, to test more myself)+not very motivated by JdGordon on this thing (ie forced to test to make him take a look at)
14:01:22*gevaerts wonders if this might be related to ATA changes instead
14:01:40moosthat was the commit of sbs or around, let me try to find you a rev number
14:01:55moosgevaerts: that was before IIRC
14:02:20gevaertsah, ok. If you know the commit, I'll shut up :)
14:03:38moosplease don't :)
14:04:07moosI'm searching the number, that was the commit of the initial sbs IIRC again
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14:10:01moosaround revision 23258
14:10:07mooslong time already
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14:56:05kugelmoos: I'm fairly sure as well that some sbs related commits slowed down boot times
14:58:03mooskugel: phew, nice to hear one more voice :)
14:58:44moosapparently we are just 3-4 people to have noticed it, quite surprising
14:59:10kugelI guess it's not a big deal for most people
15:00:16moosbut not for us? /me thinks here to all people working hours and hours to make the things as fast/performant as possible
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15:00:55moospitty to lost a bit here and that the commit author didn't even hear about :(
15:01:06moos+want wher's fit
15:02:35topiki think i have noticed slower boots on my players but it's hard to measure
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15:05:21moosI'm speaking around 4-5sec here...
15:05:46moosand the batterie consumption that goes with
15:06:24Luca_Skugel: I've noticed that you've added to mkamsboot.c the md5 of a couple of fuzev2 OF versions
15:06:26Luca_Skugel: I've noticed that you've added to mkamsboot.c the md5 of a couple of fuzev2 OF versions
15:06:27DBUGEnqueued KICK Luca_S
15:06:27Luca_Skugel: I've noticed that you've added to mkamsboot.c the md5 of a couple of fuzev2 OF versions
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15:06:36Luca_Swebclient lagging
15:07:01CtcpIgnored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
15:07:01*moos considers that he speaks way too much about this, let's hope on JdGordon now
15:07:39Luca_Smy fuzev2 has a different firmware version, 02.01.09F - and I seem unable to find that revision on the Sandisk web site
15:08:00Luca_Scan I generate somehow the md5sum of the OF on my player?
15:08:10Tornebut you don't need to use the OF on your player..
15:08:16Torne(i think)
15:08:31gevaertsActually, you *can't* use the copy on your player
15:08:39Torneyeah. just get the latest version from sandisk
15:08:40Torneand use that
15:08:43Torneit will upgrade your player :)
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15:08:57kugelLuca_S: either use one of the OFs supported by mkamsboot or feel free to run mkamsboot on unknown ones (which is a slight risk)
15:09:08Tornei suspect 02.01.09F is the original version, maybe?
15:09:13Tornewhich is why there's no firmware update to it
15:09:29Torneit sounds like a low number, at least :)
15:10:35Luca_SI never upgraded it because I was worried that later versions could change encryption schemes or anything else that could have blocked an install of Rockbox
15:11:58Luca_SI have donwl
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15:13:42Luca_SI have downloaded a few different versions from the Sandisk site: fuze02.01.17, fuze02.02.26, fuze02.02.28, fuze02.03.31 - the latter two are missing from mkamsboot.c because they're untested yet?
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15:14:21kugelI have only tested the ones mkamsboot suppors
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15:42:54AsaelReitertomers: Is there any difference between NUMBER_OF_POWERUPS and POWER_TYPE_COUNT?
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15:53:40tomersAsaelReiter: Thanks. I guess you just found a bug :-) I'll fix that
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16:02:52CIA-5New commit by tomers (r24928): Brickmania: Fix NUMBER_OF_POWERUPS and POWER_TYPE_COUNT were used for the same purpose ...
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16:14:20kkurbjuntomers: I don't know if you saw my message on the development list, but the powerup collision checking should use the line intersection tests
16:21:15tomerskkurbjun: noted. I'll try to do that if i have some more time. Do you intend to do that yourself?
16:21:49kkurbjunI won't have time for a while, I am about to head out to work and I will be on vacation for a bit starting this afternoon
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16:29:41tomerskkurbjun: ok.. I'll do it. thanks for telling me about it
16:30:22LambdaCalculus37Did the location of the cygwin packages change recently? I'm trying to point cygwin to, but cygwin's telling me that it can't find the sig.ini file there.
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16:30:48*tomers Found a bug related to the powerups in Brickmania (probably caused by recent committs). Debugging...
16:31:04gevaertsLambdaCalculus37: that's an *old* issue!
16:31:10gevaertsYou need setup -X
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16:32:22LambdaCalculus37gevaerts: I'm doing setup -X.
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17:16:44amiconngevaerts, LambdaCalculus37: The cygwin packages on won't work for cygwin 1.7. They were built for cygwin 1.5.x
17:17:06LambdaCalculus37amiconn: Ahh, that explains it.
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17:17:49amiconnCygwin 1.7 is current now. Someone needs to make new packages
17:18:00amiconnUnfortunately I have no idea how to build cygwin packages
17:18:44amiconn(anyway I'd need to convince the cygwin installer to upgrade my cygwin 1.7 beta installation instead of insisting on a new install)
17:22:00gevaertsHow long does building toolchains take these days on cygwin on relatively recent hardware?
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17:24:15amiconnI think it was a few hours
17:24:37amiconnThat was on my laptop - Core2 Duo @2.4GHz with 4GB RAM and SSD
17:24:51LambdaCalculus37amiconn: Might be slowing in a WinXP VM on my Mac.
17:24:56amiconnVirus scanner stopped
17:25:21*amiconn should probably just reinstall cygwin and rebuild the toolchains
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17:36:44webguest74how do I delete a theme from my Ipod?
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17:40:43linuxstbwebguest74: Using the "Theme remove" viewer plugin - it's documented in the manual
17:41:05leavittxhey guys! what about .xm music support in rb? I found only this:
17:42:18linuxstbleavittx: That's all there is. There's technical problems preventing that being added to the official Rockbox builds as its currently written.
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17:44:28leavittxlinuxstb: You mean lack of fpu on some platforms, right? Will it run on my Cowon D2 by the way?
17:45:11linuxstbleavittx: No, it's the problem with memory handling (if I remember correctly)
17:45:23linuxstbBut I'm sure the comments on that task explain.
17:46:56webguest74Thanks linuxstb. Can i just delete the cfg file within the rockbox folder?
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17:47:45linuxstbYes, but that would still leave other files there.
17:48:01webguest74ok thanks !
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17:57:39leavittxDo I get it right that i can use any functions from <math.h>, but ones from "lib/fixedpoint.h" are much faster?
17:58:19TorneProbably not *any* functions from math.h
17:58:24Tornei doubt we implement erf() or similar :)
17:58:47gevaertsour math.h doesn't have many functions :)
17:59:00TorneAh, that's true
17:59:05Tornein fact it has none
17:59:13Torneok one but that's not useful to users
17:59:56Torneleavittx: so then pardon me, no, you can't. the floating point math functions are just not there.
18:00:39Tornei've never looked bnefore ;)
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18:02:30leavittxTorne: Do you say by that I have to use functions from "lib/fixedpoint.h"?
18:02:35leavittxor what?
18:03:19Torneleavittx: the functions from math.h on other systems just don't exist
18:03:40Tornefixedpoint.h has a fixed point version of sin/cos/sqrt (though not anything else)
18:04:26Tornethose are all you get
18:04:27gevaertsleavittx: what exactly are you trying to do?
18:06:01leavittxgevaerts: first of all, I need square root.
18:06:16leavittxafter that I need sin and cos
18:06:22leavittxthat's all for now
18:06:54leavittxI'm trying to write plugins =)
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18:09:26gevaertsWell, fixedpoint.h should work for you then, but you'll have to get used to think in fixed point
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18:13:59leavittxAnd how do I do this?
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18:20:32LambdaCalculus37amiconn: Regarding the cygwin packages... Strife89 is also running Cygwin 1.7.1 and managed to install the packages.
18:21:04*LambdaCalculus37 hands the mic to Strife89
18:22:13Strife89It was a fairly straightforward install. I followed the directions on .
18:23:34Strife89The only thing I changed was running a command prompt as an administrator, then "cd"ing into the directory with setup.exe before exectuing "setup.exe -X".
18:24:29Strife89My OS is Vista, by the way.
18:25:17LambdaCalculus37Mine is XP SP3.
18:25:32Strife89SP2 is installed on this Vista setup.
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18:49:23leavittxWhere can I find millisecond-resolution timer finction for my platform (Cowon D2)? If any exist...
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18:53:01domonokyleavittx: you can use the tick (10ms resolution) or the register_timer() function, but dont know how the resolution is on those.
18:53:34domonokyremember, that in a plugin you can only use functions from the plugin api.
18:53:38gevaertsI don't think it's going to be better.
18:56:26leavittxgevaerts: and what is going?
18:56:50leavittx>I don't think it's going to be better.
18:57:08leavittxah, tick then
18:57:28gevaertstimer tasks are scheduled run from the tick interrupt I think, so they're also 10ms
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18:57:41gevaertsunless I'm wrong about them
18:58:16JdGordonmoos: amiconn: pixelma: kugel: Alexp: (+anyone who thinks there is a slower boot time). If r24922 didnt fix it up then it NEVER WAS THE SBS CHANGES! my mini2g boots in less than 2 seconds so I dont know what the bloody hell the fuss is and noone has prvided hard numbers to say there is a delay
18:58:36*domonoky remembers that the user-timer is using the second hardware timer on most hardware, but i am also not sure :-)
18:58:56AlexPJdGordon: I haven't got around to measuring yet which is why I haven't said anything
18:59:46amiconnLambdaCalculus37: It *might* be installable, but afaiu it won't work. The Cygwin 1.7.x cygwin1.dll is not compatible with the 1.5.x version
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19:00:29leavittxokay. What about fgets/fgetc functions? I don't see them here:">
19:00:39amiconngevaerts: The user timer is used by registering a callback, which is called in interupt context
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19:00:57domonokyregister_timer() specifys the frequency in cycles per TIMERFREQ, so it has higher resolution, but it differs between targets.
19:01:06AlexPJdGordon: My gigabeat S takes 3.7 seconds for the toshiba bootloader, 2 seconds for the rockbox bootloader then 11.5 seconds sat on the Rockbox splash before I get the main menu
19:01:25amiconnSo (1) resolution varies by target, but should be 1µs or better. (2) You need to be careful about what you're executing there
19:01:27AlexPI'll try going back over previous versions later tonight
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19:01:51gevaertsok, makes sense
19:02:07LambdaCalculus37amiconn: I guess I'll be looking for the 1.5.x installer for now, then.
19:02:22JdGordonAlexP: I assume thats stop watch times? and is that with a theme? how long does a theme take to apple if you load it from the menus?
19:02:27saratogaI've closed a few threads, typed a detailed message explaining why, and then had the thread deleted a couple hours later
19:02:35saratogacan we stop deleting every closed thread
19:02:52saratogait kind of defeats the purpose of telling people why you closed the thread if the explination is deleted
19:02:53amiconnLambdaCalculus37: I doubt you can still install 1.5.x. I would expect the cygwin team to have taken down the packages
19:02:54rasherOr at least wait n days before deleting it
19:03:02saratogawhy delete it at all
19:03:04AlexPsaratoga: I deleted a coupld that I thought utterly pointless after making sure the OP had read them
19:03:10saratogaif its locked just let it sink off the front page
19:03:16domonokyleavittx: on D2 the register_timer() resolution is 2Mhz, but listen to what amiconn said :-)
19:03:19AlexPThen it messes up searches
19:03:25rashersaratoga: s/n ratio of searches
19:03:40LambdaCalculus37amiconn: So the only thing to do is update the Rockbox packages for 1.7.1, then.
19:03:45saratogathats hardly worth caring about
19:03:54AlexPyes it is
19:03:57leavittxdomonoky: thanks :)
19:04:27saratogai had someone send me an angry message asking why his thread was deleted the other day because he apparently didn't get to see the message i typed out explaining what he should do
19:04:35AlexPJdGordon: That is with a stop watch yes, - I'll do a series of measurements later. I don't want to say anything until I have
19:04:36saratogabecause it was deleted for no real reason
19:05:49AlexPThen that was an error
19:05:50domonokyleavittx: fgetc/fgets dont exist, you have todo it with the functions which are there :-)
19:05:58AlexPBut keeping the search useful is important
19:06:25amiconndomonoky: 2MHz equals 0.5µs resolution. PP has 1µs resolution (1MHz timer base), Coldfire has ~0.1µs resolution (11.2896 MHz timer base) at best (i.e. when prescaling isn't necessary)
19:06:46amiconnLambdaCalculus37: Yes - if someone knows how to make cygwin packages
19:07:06leavittxdomonoky: i've found read_line()
19:07:16amiconnOtherwise you can just build the toolchains yourself using
19:08:02linuxstbsaratoga: If a thread is useless, maybe just delete it and PM the user, rather than posting a comment and locking? I thought sending users PMs was the normal thing to do, but I'm not a forum mod...
19:08:20leavittxdomonoky: now need something for fputc :-\
19:08:26rasherMaybe we should just phase out the cygwin packages and stick with
19:08:26saratogaif you send them PMs its an invitation for them to argue with you
19:08:33saratogai don't care to do it
19:08:37AlexPlinuxstb: It is, yes (especially with deleting)
19:08:39domonokyleavittx: just use write() ?
19:08:44linuxstbsaratoga: I would just ignore such replies.
19:09:01AlexPsaratoga: The person deleting should make sure the OP has seen it, but deleting pointless threads is the right thing to do
19:09:38leavittxdomonoky: thanks. everything simply strange a little for me for first time ;)
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19:20:51webguest73how can i delete custom eq saves within my ipod?
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19:27:22starlessI Installed r24923 on an iPod Video 5.5 this morning and noticed an unexpected side effect while Using the latest version of the AW200 theme (with SBS support)
19:27:37starlessWith today's build, the backdrop is not cleared and the menu displays over top of the album art, with the AA still visible around the menu
19:27:47starlessIn build r24916, while in the WPS, hitting 'Menu' would clear the backdrop and display the system menu in the center of the screen
19:27:59starlessAA then appears to be broken when changing to other themes, including Cabbie v2
19:28:07starlessHas anyone else seen this?
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19:30:14webguest73can i delete custom eq saves within my ipod?
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19:37:06starlesswebguest73: highlight your custom eq, hold down the 'Select' button, then choose 'Delete'
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19:41:25webguest73Great thanks! where abouts are the saved eqs? theyre not in the preset folder
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19:42:57kugeltomers: why didn't you leave it in the enum?
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19:46:14starlesswebguest73: Why not browse (and delete) from the Equalizer menu?
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19:47:15webguest73my saved file isnt there
19:48:04webguest73I did a "reset settings" did that delete it?
19:50:30starlesswebguest73: Should be in /.rockbox/eqs directory
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19:53:22webguest73ahhh thank you. is it just that one file? any hidden ones?
19:54:01starlesswebguest73: That's all
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19:56:48webguest73starless thank you! one last question. when I safely remove ipod from Windows, the do not disconnect screen remains. is it ok to remove?
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20:01:27starlesswebguest73: On my iPod, it stays on screen until it is physically disconnected
20:02:32webguest73ok thanks
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20:05:02kugelmy fuzev2 crashes in clear_viewport()
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20:05:43kugelI have only backlight so far, it's pretty annoying :(
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20:10:30LambdaCalculus37amiconn, rasher: Regarding this: I suggest a patch be made and put into the tracker for this.
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20:11:12starlessJdGordon_: Please take a peek at log starting at 19:27:22, possibly something got broken in the SBS in an earlier build from today?
20:13:08kugelthis seems to become a while(1) loop:
20:13:13kugelI don't understand why
20:13:54JdGordon_starless: can you compile oyur own builds?
20:14:42kugelhm, I maybe understand why
20:15:11gevaertskugel: what type are dst and dst_end?
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20:15:23starlessJdGordon_: Sorry, I am but a mere RB user
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20:17:34kugelgevaerts: fb_data*
20:17:50JdGordon_starless: file the bug on the bug tracker, I cant do anything about it now (I'm at work)
20:18:39kugelI assume the (i)ram is full
20:19:00starlessJdGordon_: Will do, thanks!
20:19:02kugelthe framebuffer is at the end, that loop writes to the entire framebuffer
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20:20:05gevaertsunless it's at the end of the address space, it shouldn't loop
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20:21:34amiconnÍs it at the *very* end of the 32 bit address space?
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20:29:55starlessJdGordon_: FS #11060
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20:38:36kugelamiconn, gevaerts: It's linked to the end of binary. but I do not know how big the ram it's extracted to really is
20:39:04gevaertskugel: the map file should say
20:40:12kugelgevaerts: how? the linker listens to what we write into the lds files. if that's wrong the linker is wrong also (and the map file too)
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20:41:10gevaertskugel: well yes. What exactly are you seeing?
20:41:34kugelnothing :)
20:42:02kugelI switch arount the backlight_init() call a bit, and notice that it's not called after that loop
20:42:31kugeland that loop is the first one (AFAICS) that writes to a big portion of ram
20:43:37amiconnI can only imagine one of two things
20:44:09bertrikmaybe it has less ram than you think and writing outside of it causes some kind of abort
20:44:15amiconn(1) The framebuffer is mapped so that it reaches or overlaps the very end of address space. You should see this in the .map
20:45:03amiconn(2) If it isn't, it might still end outside vaild memory area, causing a bus hang. I don't know whether this can happen on arm; it does happen on coldfire
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20:47:02amiconnThis is due to how the coldfire bus controller works. It waits for the acknowledge, but if it accesses an area that's neither set to auto-ack nor sends an ack, it will happily wait forever
20:47:22kugelI'm thinking about (2)
20:47:40kugelIIRC Unhelpful also reported hangs when writing to non-existent ram
20:50:11kugelhm, no. I now tried to move the framebuffer before all code and it still doesn't work
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20:53:08CIA-5New commit by alle (r24929): Describe the %cs WPS tag in the manual (fix FS #11053)
20:54:09kugelmaybe I should disable caching for now
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20:56:55leavittxWhich function is best to replace pow(x, y)?
20:57:47JdGordon_while (−−y) x *= x;
20:57:53CIA-5New commit by alle (r24930): Remove an unneeded word in the section header
20:59:13JdGordon_hmm,is tha goign to run the loop once too often?
21:00:25leavittxJdGordon_: I need power for double (float) arguments
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21:01:17bertrikyou could do exp(y * log(x)), but that only works only for positive x
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21:04:36leavittxbertrik: what exp?? what log???
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21:06:56bertrikleavittx, not sure if we actually have those in rockbox, but any exp and log using the same base will do
21:07:06LambdaCalculus37bluebrother, domonoky: Is there any real reason why the OS X port of rbutil is still building a bundle named rbutilqt?
21:07:24LambdaCalculus37Can't we change it to give us an app bundle named 'Rockbox Utility'?
21:07:46domonokyLambdaCalculus37: if you can to this, it would be nice :-)
21:07:59LambdaCalculus37domonky: Consider it done. :)
21:09:20CIA-5New commit by rmenes (r24931): Have the Mac OS X port of Rockbox Utility actually be called Rockbox Utility instead of just rbutilqt.
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21:11:59leavittxbertrik: there are fp_exp10 fp_log10, but they take a long value as argument :((
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21:12:51gevaertsleavittx: don't use float or double if you can at all avoid them. The fixed point stuff is there for a reason
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21:14:31leavittxgevaerts: brr. I don't have any idea how to do that...
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21:15:24gevaertsYou did want to learn ;)
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21:18:03billakI have fuse running latest rockbox it runs very well but when it comes to recording, recording level is low. any idea wil be apreciated.
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21:22:00leavittxgevaerts :D
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21:24:58leavittxHow to include correctly inttypes.h in my plugin?
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21:26:27leavittxOr it isn't needed? For example for uint32_t
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21:28:12bertrikuint32_t is in <stdint.h> IIRC, but I don't know for sure if we have that in rockbox
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21:31:36leavittxhmmm I've found all needed stuff in apps/plugins/pdbox/pdbox.h. How do i include this to my plugin?
21:32:14leavittxbertrik: see firmware/include/inttypes.h −− all types are there. How do I include this file?
21:32:47leavittxbecause I get tons of errors (%
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21:44:33leavittxNo atof()???
21:45:00gevaertsWhy would it be there? We don't do float!
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21:46:57archivatorOut of curiosity, you can still, in theory, use floats and everything would compile and link just fine, right? The binsize would skyrocket, sure, but will it still work?
21:48:13gevaertsslowly, probably
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21:49:44leavittxokay. I've understood it. what about header files (my 2 questions above)? please
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21:52:23gevaertsI seem to be able to include inttypes.h just fune. What's the problem?
21:53:13archivatorleavittx: just do #include <inttypes.h> , works fine.
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21:55:47leavittxhmm. one second (%
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22:09:51gormuxI jsut installed rockbox on a cowon D2, and I have a little problem
22:10:20gormuxeverything works, aparently, but when i'm in palying mode, I cannot change tracks
22:10:30gormuxis there a way to configure this ?
22:12:56JdGordon_did you read the manual?
22:13:33archivatorBut really, go through the whole manual.
22:14:28gormuxJdGordon_: I just found the corresponding page in the wiki
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22:17:16leavittxgormux: I also have D2, and it seems to me that I don't have such problem :P
22:17:54gormuxleavittx: you mean, a wps screen usable in touchscreen mode directly ?
22:18:26leavittxIn 3x3 grid mode
22:18:36gormuxthe buttons don't even work for me, in wps mode the only working buttons are volume and contextual menu
22:18:51gormuxah, i'm not on this mode
22:20:05JdGordon_then it makes sense that the buttons dont work :)
22:20:10JdGordon_which theme?
22:20:18gormuxdefault one
22:20:27gormuxfirst time I try rockbox
22:20:35JdGordon_I thought that one had touch areas setup?
22:20:37gormuxinstalled it about 30 minutes ago :)
22:20:53gormuxhum, no ?
22:21:05gormuxi calibrate the screen, and that's all
22:21:19JdGordon_press things that look like icons on the wps
22:21:29JdGordon_I think the rockbox logo takes you back to the menu
22:21:31gormuxthey do nothing
22:23:09JdGordon_that should be fixed :) otherwise put it back in 3x3 mode (which sucks)
22:23:41JdGordon_or download themes which do have touchscreen support
22:23:54leavittxSeriously, I wanna include pdbox/pdbox.h in my plugin. I do that by #include "pdbox/pdbox.h" after #include "plugin.h". After that I have this compilation error: struct plugin_api has no member named rb, on lines, where I call rb->smth() functions. Little help?
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22:24:18gormuxJdGordon_: do you have a suggestion for the theme ?
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22:25:11gormuxok I'll check
22:25:17gormuxthanks for your help
22:26:15archivatorleavittx: you sure you have PLUGIN_HEADER in your plugin?
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22:27:20leavittxarchivator: yep. absolutely.
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22:27:44leavittxwithout that header everything is ok
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22:48:11leavittxAny other ideas?
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22:56:20domonokyleavittx: you cant just include headers from other plugins.
22:56:43domonokyit could be done by copiing the complete code, but thats ugly..
22:57:29leavittxhow beautiful
22:57:41domonokyperhaps a better way would be to move those functions you need from pdbox into the plugin lib, and adjust it accordingly.
22:57:41leavittxI have no choice
22:58:01leavittxinto my plugin's lib?
22:58:26leavittxi.e. write non-one-file plugin
22:58:30domonokyno, there is a general plugin lib, which all plugins can use.
22:59:18domonokyapps/plugins/lib/* is the code in the plugin lib
22:59:59domonokybut for a start you can surely just copy the relevant functions into your plugin, and make it nice when everythign works fine.
23:00:04leavittxand I have to modify the SOURCES file, right?
23:00:36domonokyyes, SOURCES (and SUBDIRS) control which files get compiled.
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23:01:24leavittxsounds good (%
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