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00:38:45 | TheSeven | the chips where the 3rd letter is an 8 are probably fixed now |
00:39:17 | TheSeven | however, the "5" variants seemed to be fine all the time |
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01:25:18 | anti[v4] | hey! |
01:26:24 | anti[v4] | who can change some text on the "Download section" on this => http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtility <= page? |
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01:32:46 | TheSeven | you can, if you create a wiki account |
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01:33:39 | anti[v4] | how? |
01:34:27 | anti[v4] | oh, i found, where ;) |
01:35:48 | TheSeven | if you tell me your wiki name, i can give you write permission |
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01:37:01 | anti[v4] | Access check on Main.RockboxUtility failed. Action "CHANGE": access not allowed on web. |
01:37:06 | anti[v4] | >_< |
01:37:13 | anti[v4] | TheSeven, AntiXpucT |
01:37:52 | TheSeven | please - as stated on the registration form and in numerous other places - use you real name for your wiki account. |
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01:40:17 | b801 | hello |
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01:40:50 | anti[v4] | >_< |
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01:42:09 | b801 | i was wondering if anyone has had the same problem i'm having w/ the fuze port - when updating the database it never finishes, the count of files added to the database keeps going up |
01:42:41 | anti[v4] | TheSeven, any way i can't change even account name :( |
01:42:55 | scorche | you need to re-register |
01:43:38 | CIA-5 | New commit by theseven (r25139): Revert r25099, r25101, r25109 and r25137 for now. This doesn't seem to be quite stable on some NAND types yet. |
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01:44:50 | Llorean | b801: You may need to just wait longer |
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01:45:25 | b801 | Llorean: it's possible, but i've waited for the added entries count to go over 1,000,000 |
01:46:03 | anti[v4] | TheSeven, that is normal wiki-account: VadimMisbakhSoloviev |
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01:47:20 | TheSeven | anti[v4]: done |
01:47:34 | TheSeven | erm, who edited the wiki users group last? |
01:47:45 | anti[v4] | hmmm... |
01:47:48 | TheSeven | somebody seems to be not capable of sorting the entries ;-) |
01:47:55 | anti[v4] | thank you, but i've a question |
01:47:56 | rasher | TheSeven: there's history |
01:48:07 | anti[v4] | how i can logout from wrong account? |
01:48:39 | TheSeven | erm, the topic here is also a bit obsolete ;-) |
01:48:53 | TheSeven | and loading the history of that page is *SLOW*! |
01:48:58 | Mode | "#rockbox +o TheSeven" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
01:49:15 | Topic | "Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines | Please direct offtopic/social chat to #rockbox-community | This channel is logged at http://www.rockbox.org/irc | Rockbox applied for Google Summer of Code again" by TheSeven (~theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) |
01:49:21 | Mode | "#rockbox -o TheSeven" by TheSeven (~theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) |
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01:51:18 | TheSeven | rasher: the history page is still loading |
01:51:43 | rasher | Maybe it's faster to load the revisions one by one |
01:52:18 | TheSeven | you don't see who changed it that way |
01:52:24 | rasher | Ah, darn |
01:52:25 | TheSeven | or at least, I don't see it |
01:53:14 | TheSeven | r595, r597 and r598 are the bad ones |
01:53:39 | * | TheSeven wonders what the maximum script execution time on that server is |
01:54:35 | TheSeven | Gateway Time-out |
01:54:37 | TheSeven | The gateway did not receive a timely response from the upstream server or application. |
01:54:38 | TheSeven | Apache Server at www.rockbox.org Port 80 |
01:55:56 | TheSeven | MichaelGiacomelli (IIRC saratoga?) started it ;-) |
01:56:20 | TheSeven | the second one was also by him |
01:57:04 | TheSeven | and the third one also |
01:57:09 | TheSeven | only one person to blame! :-P |
01:57:50 | TheSeven | btw you can make it diff only certain revisions using the rightmost link on the page, "more actions" or something |
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02:33:46 | jeffp | hey guys, i have a problem with rb song rating. i've got the database enabled, gather runtime data enabled, but the 'rate song' option worked the first few times i tried it and now when i try to rate a song i get a 'no info' message. on sansa fuze. any idea? |
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03:23:29 | chrisb | i don't understand playlists...do i have to create the /playlist directory so that playlists can be saved? |
03:23:47 | chrisb | when i save them do i have to prefix the name with /playlist ? |
03:24:23 | chrisb | i did save a playlist, but it was at the / root dir |
03:24:38 | chrisb | so i guess that's why it didn't appear in the catalog |
03:25:59 | jeffp | i don't understand them very well either |
03:27:06 | chrisb | should i just do this on a computer and copy to the player's mounted disc ? |
03:29:04 | jeffp | you can add files to a playlist from the nowplaying menu |
03:33:08 | Llorean | Playlists can be anywhere, but as far as I know they only show up in the catalog if they're in the appropriate folder for it. |
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04:06:30 | jeffp | yeah, i have several m3u playlists in my album folders that don't show up in the catalog |
04:14:25 | chrisb | ok |
04:15:52 | b801 | well here's an update on my previous problem: |
04:16:13 | b801 | i reformatted and reinstalled rockbox fresh on my fuze |
04:17:32 | b801 | with no audio files on it at all, when you try to build the database it gets up to "building database... 468 found" and just hangs there |
04:17:41 | b801 | if anyone sees this and has any ideas |
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04:26:12 | soap | b801, are you sure you don't have music files in the Windows Recycle Bin of the drive (or enter OS of choice equivalent)? |
04:26:21 | soap | The database looks /everywhere/. |
04:26:41 | b801 | soap: i got it working |
04:26:55 | b801 | there was a bug ticket for the init hanging with no music files on it |
04:27:22 | soap | what was the issue, b801? |
04:28:52 | b801 | well, i'm not sure what it was the first time |
04:29:25 | b801 | after i reformatted, it was that database init hangs with no media to add to the database |
04:29:38 | b801 | it's #9093 in flyspray |
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04:31:33 | soap | did you patch yourself a build or simply add music files? |
04:33:01 | b801 | just added a file |
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06:19:42 | CIA-5 | New commit by uchida (r25140): reduce firmware and sun audio codec. |
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06:53:57 | CIA-5 | New commit by uchida (r25141): corrects the smaf parser the following. ... |
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07:15:45 | Foxx | ey' peoples |
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07:16:14 | Foxx | quick query, whats keeping rockbox off of the Sandisk Fuze v2? |
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07:18:06 | Unhelpful | lots of work to be done? and i think there's still some substantial reverse engineering left, but you'd have to ask the people working on that target to be sure. |
07:18:23 | Foxx | thats good enough for me, thanks |
07:18:51 | Foxx | im a long time rockbox endorsement, and in general a hardware hacker |
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07:19:22 | Foxx | doubt id ever be able to contribute to to the project, but at least I can explain to people why the Fuze v2 wont work (yet) |
07:19:46 | Foxx | just got two off of Woot.com myself |
07:20:26 | Foxx | I need something for the bathroom, my g/f wants a radio, I want MP3, and I cant justify putting a full feature rockbox player in the bathroom... |
07:20:55 | Unhelpful | if you have some hardware experience maybe you could help |
07:21:10 | Foxx | ive got a few e260's with rockbox, out of the box they are generic players |
07:21:21 | Foxx | rockbox really makes it a full featured player! |
07:21:30 | Foxx | well, if I wind up with some v2 models, ill do what I can |
07:24:53 | Foxx | im nipple deep in embedded hacking projects, as always |
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11:04:23 | Kahomono | Good morning. I am trying to use the Util (1.2.5) to install on a Gigabeat F60. My host in Win7 64bit. No luck - no detection mixed with crashes. The site said come here if willing to help test w/ Vista so I assume Win7 is no better off.... |
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11:18:11 | Kahomono | I wasn't sure what kind of response this question would get but I do have to say that silence was *not* what I expected.... |
11:18:29 | Torne | nobody has spoken for four hours, it's safe to assume most people are asleep |
11:18:40 | Torne | are you running rbutil as administrator? |
11:18:49 | Torne | there is virtually no chance of it working if you don't :) |
11:18:53 | Kahomono | I tried it both ways with no different result |
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11:22:48 | Torne | go to help -> troubleshoot -> system trace |
11:22:58 | Torne | and copy and pastet he entire contents of that onto http://pastebin.com |
11:23:10 | Kahomono | ok - one minute |
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11:24:15 | Kahomono | http://pastebin.com/PFUa5ND7 |
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11:25:53 | Torne | yeah, looks broken ;( |
11:26:00 | Torne | it doesn't see any usb devices on my win7 either |
11:26:15 | Kahomono | OK so I am willing to help test fixes |
11:26:25 | Torne | well, that's great, but I know very little about rbutil ;) |
11:26:28 | Kahomono | meantime I will try the manual install |
11:26:41 | Kahomono | I suppose I should post to FlySpray then |
11:27:13 | Torne | yah, would be helpful |
11:27:17 | Torne | include the system trace |
11:27:20 | Kahomono | yep |
11:27:31 | Llorean | Which drive is your gigabeat? |
11:27:36 | Kahomono | Oh, I have an XP box I will try it there and see if it goes |
11:27:40 | Kahomono | 60G |
11:27:51 | Llorean | Which drive on your computer? |
11:27:55 | Llorean | Like, letter. |
11:28:14 | Torne | The manual install is very easy on the gigabeat F |
11:28:27 | Kahomono | Ah it's not been granted a letter :) just "Toshiba Gigabeat" |
11:28:35 | Llorean | Then you didn't follow the instructions properly |
11:28:45 | Kahomono | o rly |
11:28:56 | Llorean | Please use real English here, as per the linked channel guidelines. |
11:29:08 | Kahomono | Oh really? |
11:29:12 | Llorean | Yes, really. It needs to be set up as a mass storage class device (and thus, assigned a drive letter) before it can be detected / installed to. |
11:29:17 | Llorean | It should say this in the manual. |
11:29:40 | Kahomono | OK - it's unclear to me how to do that on Win7 but I will have a go at it |
11:29:47 | Llorean | It has nothing to do with your OS. |
11:29:51 | Kahomono | Win 7 just "knows" what you have attached. |
11:30:04 | AlexP | It is a setting on the device |
11:30:05 | Torne | Llorean: It doesn't. |
11:30:05 | pixelma | Torne: I still wait for an answer about what, according to you and kugel, Windows would do if USB HID is disabled by default |
11:30:12 | AlexP | You want MSC?UMS, you have MTP |
11:30:23 | AlexP | What device are we talking about? |
11:30:34 | Kahomono | And that's a setting on the device −− ok let me go look at that. Moment. |
11:30:35 | pixelma | Gigabeat F |
11:30:44 | pixelma | if I read correctly |
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11:30:51 | Torne | i note that rbutil doesn't detect my ipod on win7 either though :) |
11:31:07 | Torne | i get no usb devices listed. |
11:31:08 | AlexP | I didn't know the F did MTP |
11:31:13 | Torne | AlexP: I don't think it does. :) |
11:31:16 | AlexP | But then I never used the OF |
11:31:31 | AlexP | So it probably is a Win 7 oddity then? |
11:31:51 | pixelma | I read about the .sat encryption - does this not ome from MTP? |
11:32:03 | pixelma | come |
11:32:07 | AlexP | No, that is just put there by Gigabeat Room |
11:32:17 | Llorean | Torne: The manual regularly mentions the "drive letter assigned to the device" at least |
11:32:24 | Torne | yes |
11:32:30 | JdGordon | AlexP: i synced the radio patch incass you didnt see |
11:32:39 | Llorean | Kahomono: Are you 100% sure it's an F and not an S or other model? |
11:32:52 | Kahomono | There is indeed a connection-mode selector but the options are "Windows Media" and "Gigabeat Room" |
11:32:58 | AlexP | JdGordon: I did thanks - I started to play last night then got side tracked trying to convert fonts. |
11:33:00 | Kahomono | :) Yes, it's an F |
11:33:01 | Llorean | You want "Gigabeat Room" |
11:33:04 | AlexP | Kahomono: Try the other one :) |
11:33:11 | Kahomono | OK |
11:33:20 | Llorean | Which I thought was the default. |
11:33:30 | AlexP | JdGordon: It seems that when the font gets to a certain size, convbdf doesn't work properly |
11:33:32 | Kahomono | I had Windows Media so now trying Gigabeat Room |
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11:33:49 | Kahomono | sweet! it got a letter! |
11:33:54 | Llorean | Someone with a build environment want to quickly add mention to the manual that if you've changed the connection mode to Windows Media (or if it's set there because someone else changed it) you should restore it first? |
11:33:57 | Kahomono | Now will fire up util again |
11:34:04 | AlexP | Llorean, Kahomono - I didn't know the F had an option - I'll add a note to the manual |
11:34:10 | Kahomono | Thanks |
11:34:17 | JdGordon | AlexP: dont tell me... ive got enough on my plate atm :p |
11:34:28 | Torne | rbutil still doesn't detect my ipod on win7 though |
11:34:32 | Kahomono | And away we go! |
11:34:34 | Torne | :) |
11:34:36 | Llorean | AlexP: Apparently not many people even notice the option. :) |
11:34:41 | Llorean | Torne: Does ipodpatcher? |
11:34:56 | Kahomono | I changed it like a year ago because I got sick of the Room software |
11:35:06 | AlexP | JdGordon: I'm going to ignore it for now anyway (I need the bigger patches for the S, on which the fms seems fine) and go to the H140 :) |
11:35:13 | Kahomono | I barely remembered doing that until this conversation :) |
11:35:27 | Torne | Llorean: yes |
11:35:36 | Llorean | That's quite strange then, since they're the same code. |
11:35:46 | Torne | it detects the drive letter, but doesn't set the player typ[e |
11:35:53 | Llorean | Torne: Right click on RBUtil and choose the "detect compatibility problems" option or whatever it's called. |
11:35:58 | Torne | and it doesn't list it under usb devices |
11:36:00 | Torne | or anything |
11:36:02 | Llorean | I'd be curious if Win7 "knows" where we might have issues. |
11:36:06 | Torne | despite the fact that i have numerous usb devices attached :) |
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11:36:33 | Llorean | I mean all that does is recommend one of the previous-OS compatibility modes, but I'd be curious to see if it works in one of those |
11:37:13 | Torne | Yeah, it said XP sp2 |
11:37:15 | Torne | and that makes no difference |
11:37:18 | Torne | wait, hm |
11:37:23 | Torne | is this because of the model rename :) |
11:37:26 | Torne | obviously i already have rockbox on here |
11:37:38 | Torne | [Autodetect] rockbox-info.txt detected: "ipodvideo64mb" "E:/" |
11:37:42 | Torne | but it doesn't actually select it |
11:37:54 | Kahomono | Installation Successful! |
11:38:13 | AlexP | Kahomono: What is the option in the OF called? |
11:38:13 | Kahomono | Do you need a FlySPray report for the doc update or you all set? |
11:38:23 | Torne | yeah, the target is called ipodvideo.64mb now, it seems |
11:38:24 | Kahomono | "gigabeat room" |
11:38:27 | Torne | so nevermind |
11:38:32 | AlexP | Kahomono: I'm doing it now, but just need a couple of bits of info :) |
11:38:33 | Torne | i just haven't installed a recent enough build ;) |
11:38:38 | Kahomono | No problem |
11:38:46 | Kahomono | Glad to offer help |
11:38:49 | AlexP | Kahomono: The actual option though, e.g. "Connection type" or some such |
11:38:52 | Torne | Llorean: nevermind, sorry ;) |
11:39:04 | Kahomono | oh... hang on I will walk the menus again |
11:39:25 | Llorean | Torne: Always happy to hear problems aren't on Rockbox's side. :-P |
11:39:36 | Llorean | it'd be nice if there was a solution to the old target name thing though |
11:39:41 | Torne | Yeah that would be nice :) |
11:39:44 | Llorean | I ran into that myself recently. |
11:39:47 | AlexP | Kahomono: Thanks |
11:40:11 | Kahomono | Setp > Connections > PC Connections > gigabeat room |
11:40:16 | Kahomono | Setup* |
11:40:21 | AlexP | Kahomono: ta |
11:40:30 | Kahomono | anything else? |
11:41:47 | AlexP | gigabeat room isn't capitalised at all? |
11:41:54 | Kahomono | no it's all lc |
11:41:59 | AlexP | OK, cheers |
11:42:00 | Kahomono | the others are all UC |
11:42:38 | Kahomono | OK - have a wonderful... well.. whatever time of day it is where you are :) |
11:42:50 | AlexP | Nearly lunchtime :) |
11:42:59 | AlexP | Kahomono: Do you have two minutes to wait? |
11:43:13 | AlexP | I'm just test building the manual then I'd like to check if it makes sense |
11:43:16 | Kahomono | sure. I will get my music load started |
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11:48:33 | AlexP | Kahomono: Is "Make sure the option under \setting{Setup $\rightarrow$ Connections $\rightarrow$ PC Connections} is set to \setting{gigabeat room}." correct? Imagine the formatting is replaced :) |
11:49:09 | Kahomono | Yes. |
11:49:19 | Kahomono | But one thing −− one of the options there is "select when connected" |
11:49:20 | AlexP | Cool :) |
11:49:36 | Kahomono | so that option is also OK if you always select gigabeat room at connection time |
11:50:27 | AlexP | For Rockbox it is only needed for installation, it has its own USB mode |
11:50:41 | CIA-5 | New commit by alex (r25142): Add a note to the gigabeat F manual to be in the correct USB mode before installing. |
11:50:47 | Kahomono | Ah. OK then, I think you are in good shape |
11:51:17 | AlexP | cool, cheers for pointing that out |
11:51:28 | AlexP | Amazing that it has never come up before though :) |
11:51:56 | Llorean | I could've sworn there was mention of it. |
11:52:01 | Kahomono | <shrug> and now it has |
11:52:07 | Kahomono | No worries |
11:52:24 | Llorean | It may have been in the wiki page |
11:52:37 | Kahomono | I think the majority of gigabeat users go from room directly to rockbox |
11:52:50 | AlexP | Llorean: Could be, yeah |
11:52:55 | Kahomono | I made a stop along the way ;) |
11:52:59 | AlexP | Kahomono: I never even booted the OF :) |
11:53:10 | Kahomono | niiice :) |
11:53:27 | Kahomono | OK... I'm off to new adventures |
11:53:32 | Kahomono | have fun! |
11:53:35 | AlexP | Cheerio |
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12:32:37 | AlexP | JdGordon: You about? |
12:34:15 | AlexP | I'm just trying the fms patch on the H100 - looks great with the single exception that my .fms has %wd, but that the statusbar keeps going on and off (when I press a button) |
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12:45:24 | AlexP | This was in the sim btw |
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12:56:46 | AlexP | JdGordon: Same on target - really nice save the intermittant unwanted statusbar |
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12:58:51 | pixelma | and you can exit the radio screen? |
12:59:18 | AlexP | yep |
12:59:34 | AlexP | same as svn, short press on stop |
12:59:39 | pixelma | I wonder what's going on for me the :( |
12:59:42 | pixelma | then |
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13:00:31 | AlexP | no idea, it is a bit odd |
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13:01:22 | pixelma | no versioning of the patches still :/ |
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13:40:50 | S_a_i_n_t | Oh man..... :[ Database is freezing in current(-ish) SVN r25139 |
13:41:11 | S_a_i_n_t | Saw in the logs another user complain of this today, anyone know whats going on? |
13:41:24 | * | S_a_i_n_t has been awol for some days now. |
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13:51:48 | S_a_i_n_t | IS there some fancy way SVN is able to tell me what the last revision I updated from is/was? It would *really* help me bisect out which revision is messing up the database building... |
13:51:58 | S_a_i_n_t | s/IS/Is/ |
13:56:05 | bertrik | No, I don't think SVN can tell you that |
13:58:00 | S_a_i_n_t | Hmmm...Usually, I try going to svn search to see if I can see any obvious commit that touches whatever's broken...but in this case it doesn't seem particularly obvious. To me at least. |
13:58:13 | AlexP | JdGordon: http://aeparker.com/files/dump_0002.png http://aeparker.com/files/rdump_0002.png http://aeparker.com/files/dump_0003.png http://aeparker.com/files/rdump_0003.png |
13:58:30 | AlexP | JdGordon: As you can see, on the main screen the statusbar shouldn't be there :) |
13:58:46 | S_a_i_n_t | Database usually takes ~2/3 seconds to do its thing from a fresh install...now it freezes on 466 every time :/ |
13:58:53 | pixelma | AlexP: does your rfms also contain a %wd? |
13:58:58 | AlexP | It is there intermittently - press a button it goes away, press another button it comes back |
13:59:23 | pixelma | ah, no... even a %we? |
13:59:49 | AlexP | pixelma: No, the rwps should be showing it - it has a %we |
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14:00:05 | AlexP | And the main screen has %wd |
14:00:59 | pixelma | yep, bug in statusbar handling currently. It also happens if your RWPS has a %we and the main WPS a %wd |
14:01:55 | AlexP | Good point, I didn't try the WPS but that should be the same for me |
14:02:39 | pixelma | I just remembered that the guy putting all the SVN themes on the theme site asked about this because one SVN theme (H100) has the same problem and I tried it on my M5 where it didn't occur - but the M5 doesn't have the RWPS (remote screen is bigger than the Iriver ones) |
14:03:48 | pixelma | maybe 1..2 weeks ago or so, forgot about it till now |
14:05:58 | * | S_a_i_n_t did a really idiotic thig (hold the sarcasm please :P ) |
14:06:11 | S_a_i_n_t | Trying to init the database with no media on the DAP |
14:06:42 | S_a_i_n_t | but this leads me to ask..."why does it just hang?" instead of simply exiting after some time? |
14:06:55 | AlexP | Because there is a bug |
14:06:56 | S_a_i_n_t | *thing even. |
14:06:58 | stripwax_ | jej |
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14:07:07 | stripwax_ | (whoops, sorry) |
14:08:08 | pixelma | I believe this bug was always around :\ |
14:08:16 | S_a_i_n_t | Hmmmm, there really is no retort to that. |
14:08:18 | AlexP | It is certainly known |
14:08:29 | S_a_i_n_t | I've never come across it before. |
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14:09:04 | S_a_i_n_t | I guesse it comes from me *usually* (apparently) being smart enough to make sure there is media on the device. |
14:09:11 | S_a_i_n_t | But not this time apparently. |
14:10:33 | stripwax_ | it would be great if Database -> Update also hooked into pictureflow to update albumart cache. Right now, any new media requires a full rebuild of a pictureflow cache. Is there a way to hook a 'thing' into the incremental database update logic? |
14:11:37 | stripwax_ | It would also be nice if (ipod) scrollwheel acceleration worked in pictureflow. I'm pretty sure it used to work, but doesn't seem to currently. |
14:12:02 | S_a_i_n_t | seems to work (acceleration) on my Nano's |
14:12:12 | S_a_i_n_t | well, it goes WAY faster than I can see anyway... |
14:12:12 | bertrik | I remember a recent svn commit message about that |
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14:13:04 | S_a_i_n_t | The album art becomes a pixelated blur if I scroll too fast |
14:13:12 | bertrik | it was svn r25047 that I was thinking of |
14:14:54 | pixelma | AlexP: ah no, it was bluebroth3r asking about the statusbar thing - and it was the zezeyer theme |
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14:15:27 | pixelma | zezayer too |
14:15:48 | AlexP | OK. As expected I also see the bug here on my theme. |
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14:16:59 | pixelma | someone (cough) should file a bug report |
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14:18:38 | AlexP | yeah, I will do shortly |
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14:20:39 | AlexP | As soon as I can remember my flyspray password that is |
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14:24:51 | AlexP | pixelma, JdGordon: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11100 |
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14:27:59 | stripwax_ | bertrik - oh, thanks! |
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14:28:56 | stripwax_ | not specifically pictureflow though. i wonder if pictureflow just doesn't respond to acceleration and is otherwise fps constrained. |
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14:29:57 | S_a_i_n_t | maybe...but my pictureflow (nano1/2g) seems *really* fast |
14:30:00 | stripwax_ | curious |
14:30:20 | stripwax_ | S_a_i_n_t - if you scroll the wheel slowly, do the pictures slide past slowly? or is it always fast? |
14:30:35 | S_a_i_n_t | fast enough that if it isn't accelerated...i wouldn't want it to be. |
14:30:48 | S_a_i_n_t | speed varies. |
14:31:00 | * | TheSeven wonders if we have any flash memory expert |
14:31:01 | stripwax_ | ok, interesting. on ipod5g, speed does not vary. as far as I can tell. |
14:31:03 | S_a_i_n_t | slow=slow, fast is fast |
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14:34:38 | stripwax_ | Is it possible to simulate 'scrolling fast' vs 'scrolling slowly' in sim? |
14:34:43 | stripwax_ | scrollwheel that is |
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14:40:28 | JdGordon | AlexP: can you be bothered trying svn with an older version for that bug? |
14:40:51 | AlexP | Do you have a specific one in mind? |
14:41:14 | JdGordon | 25038 would be my guess |
14:41:22 | AlexP | OK, will do in a little bit |
14:41:41 | JdGordon | ok, I'm going to bed now so just reply in the bug |
14:41:46 | AlexP | Righto |
14:42:14 | AlexP | JdGordon: Other than that (which isn't an fms bug), the fms on H140 looks good :) |
14:42:32 | JdGordon | still needing the buffer manually resized? |
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14:42:56 | AlexP | Yep |
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15:19:31 | pixelma | AlexP: you don't use voice, do you? |
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15:20:54 | AlexP | pixelma: No |
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15:21:30 | pixelma | but that's not it... damnit |
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15:48:40 | pixelma | did something change in Rockbox that could cause filesystem errors when deleting a file? |
15:49:01 | pixelma | through Rockbox that is |
15:49:35 | pixelma | or deleting a directory, either manually or through disktidy |
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15:55:36 | pixelma | AlexP: I don't know why but I still get the problem with the... ahemm... latest radio patch on my M5. I turned off any voice things and even renamed the .voice so Rockbox can't find them, tried a Linux and a cygwin build and my FMS just contains a "%Tn" nothing else |
15:55:56 | pixelma | curious why it seems to work flawlessly for you |
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15:56:27 | AlexP | pixelma: Very odd indeed - the problem is just that the button to leave the radio screen is no longer working? |
15:56:38 | pixelma | I don't use a sbs but I think the same thing happened when I still had one set |
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15:57:04 | AlexP | pixelma: I don't have an sbs on the H140, but do on the S, and both are OK |
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15:58:06 | pixelma | no longer working is a wrong description. I can use the radio as lang as I don't want to exit the screen (then everything hangs including backlight and I have to hard power-off |
15:58:35 | pixelma | this happens on all my three targets and also in a sim (taking full CPU power) |
15:58:56 | AlexP | Very odd - I can leave it either by stopping the radio or with the radio still running and all is fine |
15:59:05 | pixelma | M5 (radio modded), OndioFM and c200 |
15:59:06 | AlexP | pixelma: Which sim, maybe I can try that? |
15:59:12 | S_a_i_n_t | that's just warped... |
15:59:18 | AlexP | I'll try a c200 sim |
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16:00:55 | pixelma | it was an M5 sim |
16:01:15 | pixelma | (advanced build with radio enabled) |
16:01:19 | AlexP | OK |
16:02:34 | pixelma | how did you set your FMS? Through the menu or still manually editing the config file? |
16:03:28 | AlexP | editing the theme file, then selecting the theme in the menus |
16:04:28 | pixelma | skin RAM usage is not a problem, e.g. currently 19.5kB/48kB (slightly increased buffer for me) |
16:04:57 | pixelma | on M5 that is - with my usual WPS and the one simple FMS |
16:05:13 | pixelma | which works in itself |
16:05:26 | AlexP | make clean |
16:05:30 | AlexP | ooops |
16:05:59 | pixelma | command not found ;) |
16:07:55 | pixelma | AlexP: oh, and another weird part is that everything seems fine and leaving the radio screen is still possible with the hardcoded FMS in the patch |
16:08:38 | * | pixelma wonders if there is a key WPS/FMS tag in it that makes things work (and is not %Tn) |
16:10:13 | AlexP | pixelma: OK, with a test.fms selected through the menu, the sim locked on entering the fm screen at full CPU |
16:10:35 | pixelma | aha |
16:11:13 | pixelma | on entering? Wow... getting weirder |
16:11:18 | AlexP | I had to kill -9 to get rid of it as well, standard kill didn't work |
16:11:34 | pixelma | ah no, I had that too in the sim |
16:12:39 | pixelma | if it would only be the selecting, the problem should go away on next boot though if the writing to the cfg was successfull, no? |
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16:13:24 | AlexP | Why does the sim claim to be "Loading '/.rockbox/wps/cabbiev2.rfms' " even though no .rfms exists or is specified? |
16:13:29 | pixelma | that's what I did on M5 - select the FMS, checked config.cfgm then turned off |
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16:15:08 | pixelma | AlexP: what does your test.fms contain now? |
16:15:23 | AlexP | %Tn |
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16:15:40 | pixelma | same as mine then |
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16:16:26 | AlexP | I'll try something else |
16:18:21 | pixelma | I think I once tried with only text and that worked (but doesn't make much sense) |
16:19:42 | pixelma | hanging and hard power-off doesn't enourage much testing though :\ at least none of my targets need a paperclip for that |
16:19:44 | * | anti[v4] waiting for the moment, when rockbox will be ported to Samsung YP-P2... |
16:20:13 | AlexP | pixelma: It is very odd though that it works perfectly on H140 and gigabeat S |
16:20:31 | pixelma | with this test.fms? |
16:20:39 | AlexP | no, haven't tried that |
16:20:41 | AlexP | will do |
16:23:48 | kugel | AlexP: it tries to load cabbiev2.rfms because that's the default skin name |
16:23:55 | kugel | as cabbiev2 is the default theme |
16:24:02 | kugel | it's not a problem if the files don't exist |
16:24:09 | AlexP | kugel: OK, cheers |
16:24:16 | AlexP | pixelma: Works fine on the H140 |
16:24:22 | kugel | anti[v4]: there has been work on it quite some time ago |
16:24:40 | kugel | the cowond2 binary runs on the p2, but the lcd driver needs adjustment |
16:24:56 | AlexP | pixelma: I also thought that %Tn might not be good if no presets exist and no other info is requested, so I tried %Tf also - that too freezes |
16:25:04 | anti[v4] | kugel, you talking about http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10280 ? |
16:25:39 | anti[v4] | kugel, read last comments - i've fix patch to current sources, i can't build fimware - it fails while compiling... |
16:26:15 | kugel | you need to fix it then |
16:26:20 | anti[v4] | (btw, i've trying to compile it with arm-elf-gcc 4.4.3, except 4.0.x |
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16:26:45 | kugel | arm-elf-gcc or arm-elf-eabi-gcc? |
16:27:19 | kugel | arl-elf-gcc is officially dead (unmaintained by the gcc team) so I would either use the eabi version or stick to our recommended toolchain |
16:28:25 | anti[v4] | hmm... |
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16:29:25 | kugel | anti[v4]: just run rockboxdev.sh script and select the appropriate compilers from the list, that's what we all do here |
16:29:34 | amiconn | kugel: Btw, you can use a trick for forcing certain enums to be int-sized without using an obscure attribute. Just add a extra element and assign it an explicit value of INT_MAX |
16:29:59 | kugel | amiconn: I found that trick already :) |
16:29:59 | bertrik | what is the problem with enums anyway? |
16:30:10 | amiconn | This might not be possible everywhere, depending how that enum is used |
16:30:19 | pixelma | AlexP: ok, still weid but at least you were able to reproduce a part of the problem (and I don't feel like going crazy anymore) |
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16:30:34 | pixelma | weird too... and thanks |
16:30:35 | kugel | actually, I was planning to go through doom and "bisect" every enum until I find the one(s) causing the problems but doom has just too many |
16:30:45 | AlexP | pixelma: No problem |
16:31:12 | kugel | bertrik: accessing them via in appropriate pointers (i.e. int*, assuming an enum is 4 byte wide) |
16:32:32 | anti[v4] | kugel, i've try to "crossdev -t arm-elf-eabi" now, and if it will fail, i'll try you method ;) |
16:32:48 | bertrik | aha. I suppose that's fixed mostly in the main rockbox firmware, but not in all plugins |
16:33:09 | kugel | anti[v4]: we apply patches to gcc since the gcc defauts don't work for us |
16:33:51 | anti[v4] | oh |
16:33:55 | anti[v4] | okay |
16:34:29 | AlexP | Similarly to rbutil, we recommend using the tools we supply as we know they work :) |
16:36:10 | kugel | amiconn: not sure if you saw it, but with -fshort-enums the enum-related problems are apparently reproducible in the sim |
16:36:52 | kugel | although I'm fairly sure the segfault in the sim wasn't at the exact place where it fails on my fuze; it still segfaults the sim while svn doesn't |
16:37:24 | bertrik | maybe a stupid question, but isn't there some kind of warning you can enable in gcc to find the enum problems more easily? |
16:38:28 | kugel | yes, for example if you initialize and int* field in a struct with an enum*; but the doom guys where stupid enough to cast the warning away with (void*) |
16:38:40 | kugel | I'm not sure if there are other ways |
16:39:01 | kugel | were* |
16:39:18 | bertrik | great... |
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16:40:28 | kugel | same applies for bool, btw |
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16:48:50 | amiconn | The bool issue is easier to fix though, because it's one single type |
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17:04:20 | kugel | is it? |
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17:07:25 | kronflux | Although I'm aware that this is a rockbox discussion only forum, I find myself unable to think of anyone better than the rockbox community to help me with my problem. I have an iPod Nano 2G here which won't do anything at all. without itunes installed under windows, it comes up as an unrecognized "USB DFU Device" and with itunes installed, itunes won't recognize it. any ideas? |
17:07:40 | kronflux | irc channel, sorry. |
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17:10:54 | AlexP | kronflux: #rockbox-community |
17:11:40 | kronflux | thank you :) |
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17:11:46 | anti[v4] | kugel, i build arm-elf-eabi with rockboxdev.sh script, but when i try to build firmware with "cd build-dir&& ../tools/configure −−target=ypp2" i get arror, that "arm-elf-gcc: No such file or directory". I need to make symlink? Is it some way to change build toolchain? |
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17:11:59 | anti[v4] | oh |
17:12:07 | kugel | anti[v4]: you need to add −−eabi to configure |
17:12:09 | anti[v4] | "−−eabi" key :H |
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17:30:03 | anti[v4] | kugel, yesterdey, when i try to compile firmware it was no errors, but today it is many errors like "/home/skim/work/rbu/rockbox/apps/plugins/mp3_encoder.c:2515:2: error: #error No keymap defined!" with any compile (and with crossdev's avr-gcc, and with roxbox's "eabi") |
17:30:04 | anti[v4] | :( |
17:30:57 | * | AlexP would just use rockboxdev.sh to build the recommended patched gcc and toolchain |
17:31:18 | anti[v4] | me too, but i get theese error with it too |
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17:31:52 | pamaury_ | gevaerts: ping |
17:31:55 | saratoga | does rockbox actually build for your player? |
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17:32:27 | anti[v4] | but i rermember, that yesterday, when i build firmware - there was no such errors. ;) |
17:32:51 | S_a_i_n_t | so, what did you change? |
17:32:55 | anti[v4] | saratoga, no, it doesn't, but it is patch for it in bagtrack |
17:32:57 | S_a_i_n_t | nd why? |
17:33:05 | anti[v4] | *bug |
17:33:19 | S_a_i_n_t | *and |
17:33:38 | * | gevaerts hides from pamaury :) |
17:33:57 | pamaury | hehe, |
17:34:11 | saratoga | that error says you don't have plugin keymaps, and looking at the patch, it doesn't have them either |
17:34:13 | pamaury | do you know if tomers continued his work on usb-arc to queue transfers ? |
17:34:17 | saratoga | so i'm guessing you enabled compiling plugins |
17:34:46 | saratoga | hmm it has some keymaps |
17:34:54 | saratoga | not sure if its enough to build all plugins though |
17:34:57 | gevaerts | I don't know. Personally I'm still not convinced that it's a good idea |
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17:35:14 | pamaury | I feel this might be useful for iso transfers |
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17:35:35 | gevaerts | yes, but that's a special case I think |
17:36:04 | kugel | anti[v4]: deactivate plugins for the p2 in configure (change the plugins="yes" line to plugins="") |
17:36:08 | anti[v4] | saratoga, but it is no such errors yesterday :( and at today's morning ;) |
17:36:18 | anti[v4] | kugel, uhm.. ok |
17:36:46 | gevaerts | Doing queued transfers in general is definitely doable, but (a) it costs RAM for (in the MSC case anyway) zero benefit, and (b) the bug he tried to solve with this is (I'm pretty sure) not related |
17:36:46 | pamaury | gevaerts: yes but I would like to test with it, thus my question... |
17:37:21 | pamaury | From what I saw (he partial patch) it didn't cost much RAM |
17:37:28 | gevaerts | For iso I think you want something slightly different |
17:37:57 | pamaury | gevaerts: for iso I want (a) the ability to queue several transfers (b) the ability to queue a new transfer while another one is pending |
17:38:17 | gevaerts | yes, but you don't want it dynamic I think |
17:38:42 | gevaerts | i.e. you *always* want two (or three?) transfer descriptors, never one, and never more |
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17:39:00 | kugel | what are isochronous transfers? |
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17:39:17 | TheSeven | saratoga: you might want to fix your sorting algorithm btw |
17:39:18 | gevaerts | kugel: http://www.beyondlogic.org/usbnutshell/usb4.htm#Isochronous |
17:39:36 | saratoga | TheSeven: i've never sorted those |
17:39:39 | saratoga | does it matter? |
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17:40:10 | pamaury | I don't know. My main problem is that if you have one transfer every frame (125µs), then it's problematic because priming an endpoint might take 1 frame and because they are delays in the usb core/stack, it will miss frames, so I would like to queue several transfers to avoid that. Just enough to be reliable |
17:40:17 | TheSeven | well, everyone else did. one can argue if needing to sort or needing to search (in order to find a name for whatever reason) is the bigger overhead |
17:40:26 | kugel | gevaerts: thanks |
17:40:28 | TheSeven | depends on the number of times one needs to search for an entry |
17:40:32 | saratoga | i thought that the wiki sorts them every so often |
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17:41:11 | TheSeven | not sure |
17:41:18 | pamaury | gevaerts: also note that they is a way to send data every x=2^k frames also so it's not crucial |
17:41:22 | kugel | no, it needs to be done mantually |
17:41:28 | AlexP | I've always added them alphabetically |
17:41:36 | gevaerts | pamaury: the queued-transfer work for bulk was mainly meant to allow one to think less while writing drivers. Quite a different goal :) |
17:41:50 | saratoga | ok i'll sort them |
17:41:56 | pamaury | gevaerts: yes I know :) |
17:41:56 | saratoga | sorry about the first 200 or so unsorted :) |
17:42:27 | pamaury | gevaerts: but doesn't queueing might lead to better performance with UMS ? |
17:42:48 | gevaerts | no |
17:43:10 | pamaury | Why ? Because performance is driven by the disk and not by usb ? |
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17:44:50 | TheSeven | pamaury: probably because the host will wait for the CSW before sending another CBW |
17:45:05 | pamaury | TheSeven: hum, true :) |
17:45:11 | * | gevaerts stops replying :) |
17:45:12 | pamaury | UMS doesn't support queueing |
17:45:23 | gevaerts | pamaury: it does, but not on that level |
17:45:31 | pamaury | What do you mean ? |
17:46:07 | pamaury | gevaerts: but btw, you're right to say that iso transfers are much more static than dynamic from this point of view so the problem is different |
17:46:16 | gevaerts | You don't have to return the I/O result immediately |
17:46:28 | * | kugel sees that usb audio was a proposed idea for a gsoc project |
17:46:43 | kugel | now someone does it without getting $ :) |
17:47:04 | gevaerts | r24333 did reduce performance a bit, and it's *slightly* related to this discussion. That one removed multiple TDs at the same time, but they were on different endpoints, so it's a different issue |
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17:48:01 | pamaury | kugel: indeed, but I don't have a deadline and might even give up :) |
17:48:34 | gevaerts | Maybe the gsoc page does need a note though |
17:49:41 | gevaerts | ah, it's not on this year's page |
17:50:47 | kugel | gevaerts: I just grepped the logs, it was proposed for 2008 |
17:50:54 | anti[v4] | is it: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/189192/ means, that patch, that i was fix make broken fimware? |
17:51:00 | pamaury | It was proposed along with MTP also :) |
17:51:58 | kugel | anti[v4]: that looks like you did a bad job with sync'ing the patch |
17:52:08 | anti[v4] | O_o |
17:52:21 | anti[v4] | but it was applied fine |
17:52:45 | kugel | that doesn't necessarily mean anything |
17:53:43 | anti[v4] | uhm... |
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17:53:57 | anti[v4] | and what i should to do? :) |
17:54:15 | kugel | try harder or wait until someone does it properly |
17:54:27 | kugel | we can't really do anything as nobody here owns a p2 |
17:55:00 | * | pamaury just realizes he used an invalid iso endpoint descriptor for his testing driver... |
17:55:18 | anti[v4] | :( |
17:56:56 | kugel | TheSeven: btw, a new day, a new nano2g-stkov :P |
17:58:39 | pamaury | TheSeven: On which nanoXg can someone actually custom run code ? |
17:59:09 | TheSeven | pamaury: everyone besides the 5g |
17:59:24 | TheSeven | every one* :-P |
17:59:46 | Luca_S | is there a jtag interface on the fuze v2 pcb? |
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18:00:01 | TheSeven | kugel: which one? |
18:00:19 | kugel | fs#11097 and 11098 |
18:03:51 | * | S_a_i_n_t cannot reproduce FS #11097 |
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18:07:40 | kugel | Luca_S: I don't think anyone has looked. the fuzev1 doesn't have one AFAIK |
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18:09:59 | * | TheSeven can reproduce FS #11097 |
18:10:36 | S_a_i_n_t | weird... |
18:11:35 | saratoga | Luca_S: probably, all the AMS players so far have had one |
18:11:35 | TheSeven | i haven't checked with recent revisions, but it happened to me like a week ago |
18:11:50 | TheSeven | (when i wanted to make a screenshot of the broken symmetry theme) |
18:11:54 | saratoga | kugel: theres one on the fuzev1, its just impossibly hard to solder to |
18:12:01 | saratoga | completely screwed up mine trying to do it |
18:12:13 | Luca_S | hi kugel. I was looking at the picture at http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/pub/Main/SansaFuze/fuzev2_bottom.JPG and was wondering if the 8 yellow thingies in top right might be those contacts. also curious are the yellow spots on both front and back pcb, they're circled with white paint |
18:12:40 | kugel | saratoga: hm, I have a completely broken fuzev1, and a friend with a very fine solder iron. I might have a try? |
18:12:52 | saratoga | kugel: worth a shot |
18:13:04 | saratoga | i recommend either a microscope or a very good lens though |
18:13:09 | saratoga | they're 500 micron pitch |
18:13:12 | Luca_S | one is marked with R, another L, another seems a 2 |
18:13:12 | S_a_i_n_t | there we go, second time the charm |
18:13:19 | S_a_i_n_t | it also trashed the ftl |
18:13:23 | S_a_i_n_t | lucky me :[ |
18:13:54 | saratoga | that or maybe find a socket with equal pitch and try to solder it on |
18:14:08 | kugel | maybe I'll try. for the case I'm successful, I might have a go at the fuzev2 as I have two of them currently |
18:14:42 | TheSeven | S_a_i_n_t: "trashed" meaning needing to run nandfsck or completely killed? |
18:14:59 | Luca_S | from the photos it's hard to see if some of those are connected to the soc |
18:17:23 | S_a_i_n_t | "Trashed" meaning "not iLoader'ed" so "White Screen of Please Restore Your iPod using iTunes Death" |
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19:07:44 | CIA-5 | New commit by theseven (r25143): Isolate and commit some innocent Nano2G FTL bugfixes that were introduced as part of the performance improvements |
19:09:50 | * | pamaury begins to likes usb alternate interfaces :) |
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19:10:59 | saratoga | woot has the fuze cheap today |
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19:11:32 | Luca_S | cool |
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19:13:21 | Luca_S | but they ship only in USA |
19:13:30 | Luca_S | :( |
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19:15:09 | Luca_S | there's a thread about rockbox on fuzes on woot forums :D http://www.woot.com/Forums/ViewPost.aspx?PostID=3835627&PageIndex=3&ReplyCount=189#post3835924 |
19:15:42 | gevaerts | pamaury: getting things working? :) |
19:17:17 | pamaury | gevaerts: I'm current testing isochronous transfers and the influence of the bInterval setting (using a custom usb interface) so I used 6 interfaces with decreasing bInterval value to test it :) It seems that by just trashing the incoming data, the core sustain 512 bytes transfers every 8 frames, that is every 1 ms |
19:18:00 | gevaerts | ok, so you get 512K per second? |
19:18:02 | pamaury | below, it misses some transfers, some special code in the usb driver would be required |
19:18:25 | gevaerts | yes, probably some transfer descriptor work in the interrupt handler I'd guess |
19:18:25 | pamaury | gevaerts: hum, 128K |
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19:19:04 | pamaury | hum, calculus problem :) |
19:19:33 | gevaerts | oh, do you still want a USB audio device lsusb output? |
19:20:13 | pamaury | yes but I first want to understand why I don't get reliable usbaudio, usbaudio works partially but it misses lots of transfers and underflow all the time |
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19:21:32 | gevaerts | http://pastie.org/868107 |
19:21:33 | pamaury | With my interface I have total control over the data I send and the packet size so I can measure things and have debug output |
19:22:25 | gevaerts | This is a headset with microphone, speakers and a few buttons |
19:23:17 | pamaury | gevaerts: I'm desperatly trying to find a usbaudio device with an asynchronius iso endpoint PLUS a feedback one but it seems that only high end products feature this ! Probably because it's not so useful with PCM data |
19:23:47 | pamaury | but thanks for the lsusb, it's interesting |
19:24:57 | gevaerts | http://pastie.org/868112 might also be interesting, but probably not for immediate use |
19:25:22 | pamaury | what is this ? |
19:25:30 | gevaerts | a MIDI keyboard |
19:25:44 | CIA-5 | New commit by theseven (r25144): Make Nano2G FTL buffer size configurable, no (intended) function changes |
19:25:48 | pamaury | ah, we never now but rockbox has limited support for MIDI |
19:26:13 | pamaury | but the spec is different, at least for usb audio v1 |
19:26:14 | gevaerts | plugins might be interested |
19:26:44 | pamaury | they share things of course but I don't know to which extend |
19:27:16 | pamaury | usb audio also allows to send compressed audio formats but I'm not sure many OS support that |
19:27:17 | pamaury | :) |
19:27:29 | gevaerts | I wouldn't even try right now to be honest :) |
19:27:42 | gevaerts | As soon as we have audio working, I could imagine people being interested in MIDI controller plugins |
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19:28:54 | gevaerts | Are you doing chained transfers right now? |
19:29:07 | pamaury | what do you mean ? |
19:29:48 | gevaerts | When you say you can do one transfer in every eighth microframe, is that with setting up the transfer again every time? |
19:29:55 | gevaerts | Or do you do several in one go? |
19:30:15 | pamaury | one transfer at the time |
19:30:32 | pamaury | This is the limiting factor |
19:30:41 | gevaerts | well, one of them anyway |
19:30:48 | pamaury | indeed ;) |
19:30:59 | pamaury | But it should suffice for basic audio |
19:31:39 | gevaerts | this is on e200? |
19:31:40 | pamaury | I also managed to get 1024 packet size works using hacks so it can be improved on this axis also |
19:31:43 | pamaury | yes |
19:31:54 | pamaury | I only have a 200 anyway |
19:33:07 | gevaerts | ok, so as3514 I think |
19:33:24 | pamaury | gevaerts: I wanted to ask you a stupid question. I don't see anything in usb code that deals with endianess, but usb uses endianess no ? |
19:33:35 | pamaury | *uses a precise |
19:34:04 | gevaerts | it does, yes, and that's something that's probably going to bite us at some point |
19:34:30 | pamaury | usb only works on little endian devices ? |
19:34:55 | gevaerts | in rockbox wo happen to have only LE devices with a USB driver, yes |
19:36:45 | pamaury | hum that's strange, it seems I don't have audio underflow anymore now the sound is distorted, I can recognize it but it's horrible :( |
19:37:48 | gevaerts | wrong sample format? |
19:38:05 | pamaury | don't know |
19:38:23 | pamaury | I know nothing about audio ! |
19:38:42 | gevaerts | How do you output sound? |
19:38:49 | pamaury | neither about pcm code in rockbox so perhaps I misuse it (I took doom as example) |
19:39:05 | pamaury | I use audio_* and then pcm_play_data |
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19:40:02 | pamaury | Is there a limit on the amout of data I can feed with the pcm get_more callback ? |
19:40:28 | * | gevaerts looks around for people who know this |
19:42:56 | pamaury | OMG, I made a tremendously stupid error |
19:44:23 | pamaury | ah, the sound is much better now :) Still artifacts though |
19:44:25 | kugel | do tell! |
19:44:42 | pamaury | I have a circular buffer |
19:45:16 | pamaury | When start<end, then I feed [start,end] but when end<start, I feeded [start,buffer_size-start] instead of [start,buffer_size-end] |
19:45:39 | pamaury | That's was a miserable failure because it played garbage half of the time |
19:45:40 | * | kugel has seen more stupid errors :) |
19:46:02 | pamaury | Yes but I checked this code several time looking for errors :( |
19:46:25 | pamaury | But clearly the pcm data seems wrong, I clearly recognize the sound but something is weird |
19:46:52 | pamaury | I don't know if someone could listen to the original and output and tell me what is wrong |
19:46:55 | planetbeing | One time I set the transfer width for dma to 32-bits instead of 16-bits for 16-bit lpcm i2s. The chipmunks sound was interesting to debug. :( |
19:47:16 | pamaury | lol |
19:48:20 | pamaury | How do you debug sound ? When the sound is weird, but clearly recognizable ? |
19:50:45 | planetbeing | Uh... At first I thought it was the clock. So I halved it, but when two different i2s lines to two different i2s masters with different clocks had the same problem, I knew something was wrong. |
19:51:41 | planetbeing | So I tried to see if I wasn't delivering the rdata to the i2s controller in the expected format. I zero'ed out the left channel, got nothing in both ears... |
19:52:13 | planetbeing | I zero'ed out the right channel, still got sound in both ears. So I knew somehow my data for the right channel was being ignored. |
19:52:39 | pamaury | Hum, what the PCM format ? 16:16 interleaved ? |
19:52:43 | planetbeing | So then I looked at my dma code and congratulated myself for being stupid. |
19:52:45 | planetbeing | Yeah. |
19:53:24 | pamaury | Ok, I'll try to zero a channel. But my problems is that I hear my sound but with lots of noise over it |
19:53:25 | planetbeing | So when you do 32- bit dmas, the right channel gets thrown out at least on this controller. |
19:53:55 | planetbeing | Hmm. How much noise? |
19:54:04 | planetbeing | And in both channels? |
19:54:08 | planetbeing | Equally? |
19:54:39 | pamaury | I can't really make a difference between channels but really weird noise |
19:54:51 | pamaury | Give me one minute to zero a channel |
19:55:01 | planetbeing | The other weird effect I had is one I adjusted the transfer width to 8 bit experimentally. This made it sound noisy but recognizeable in one year and complete noise in the other. |
19:55:27 | planetbeing | When* |
19:57:57 | pamaury | lol, I zero out both channel :( |
19:58:00 | pamaury | I'm so stupid |
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20:02:21 | pamaury | Arg, I still get underflow, I can't find a nice and non violent setting |
20:06:47 | pamaury | I still get noise, on both channels |
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20:13:43 | * | pamaury wonders sometimes ubuntu will not eject rockbox storage |
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20:18:43 | pamaury | Does someone have an audio file which contains silence ? |
20:18:55 | pamaury | Or how can I generate one, alternatively |
20:20:10 | Luca_S | i'd use audacity |
20:20:19 | Luca_S | it's multiplatform and open source |
20:20:41 | pamaury | Can it generate silence or do I need to "record" silence ? |
20:20:54 | Luca_S | it has the generate silence command |
20:21:03 | pamaury | ah, great |
20:21:14 | Luca_S | it can also generate white noise or a single tone |
20:21:36 | Luca_S | i can generate some silence for you if you want |
20:21:38 | pamaury | audacity is great anyway, even if I use a really really small subset of it |
20:21:58 | pamaury | No that's not necessary, if I can do it now, |
20:22:07 | pamaury | if I have problems, I'll ask you to do it :) |
20:22:27 | Luca_S | you're welcome |
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20:24:16 | pamaury | it works, thanks ! |
20:24:35 | pamaury | so silence generate audio silence with usb and white noise gives white noise apparently |
20:25:22 | Luca_S | what does single tone play? tone + noise? |
20:25:35 | pamaury | How do I generate that ? |
20:25:54 | Luca_S | it should be in the same menu as generate noise |
20:26:16 | Luca_S | my version is localized, it should just say "Tone.." |
20:26:26 | pamaury | Hum, it's in french and I now nothing about audio :( |
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20:27:03 | pamaury | Does sin sound seems reasonable for what you propose ? |
20:27:07 | Luca_S | yep |
20:27:22 | Luca_S | a single sin at a frequency of 440hz should be a vanilla A tone |
20:27:59 | pamaury | Urh, it sounds weird with usb |
20:28:11 | pamaury | If I record it, can you tell me something clever about it ? |
20:28:29 | Luca_S | I don't think so, I'm not an expert |
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20:29:39 | Luca_S | is the waveform somewhat peculiar when opened in audacity? |
20:30:34 | pamaury | Wait I minute, I'll record it and open it with audacit to see |
20:34:43 | pamaury | hum, my mic doesn't seem to work |
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20:37:05 | Luca_S | I don't know about your platform, but in Windows usually a "Stereo mix" peripheral should be able to record anything that is coming out from your speakers - you could try with that, it shouldn't require a mic |
20:37:53 | pamaury | On linux you can't record the sound card output |
20:37:57 | pamaury | Or it's very tricky |
20:38:31 | Luca_S | well, last time I tried, anything regarding sound in linux was tricky :D |
20:38:34 | pamaury | Ah works now |
20:38:46 | pamaury | Probably a conflict between softwares... |
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20:43:03 | pamaury | ok, I got it, now I'll have a look |
20:45:05 | pamaury | Hum, the output *look* like a sin but with artifacts... |
20:45:46 | Luca_S | can you upload the audio file somewhere? |
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20:46:55 | pamaury | Do you know a place ? |
20:47:00 | pamaury | Where I can upload it ? |
20:48:41 | Luca_S | no, sorry :/ |
20:49:10 | pamaury | fuck, I need a way to upload with HTTP port because FTP port is blocked by proxy :( |
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20:50:19 | TheSeven | mediafire, file-upload.net or whatever |
20:50:30 | pamaury | Do they allow upload via HTTP ? |
20:50:35 | pamaury | Is this even possible ? |
20:50:36 | TheSeven | yes |
20:50:50 | TheSeven | never seen a filehoster before? oO |
20:51:56 | pamaury | I already used it but the first I tried one minute ago failed |
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20:52:24 | pamaury | http://www.mediafire.com/?ynizitf5tmo -> original one |
20:52:37 | pamaury | http://www.mediafire.com/?wfzfjjjm2mz -> output one |
20:53:08 | pamaury | the output one has several parts because I plugged it after. By the way, the "silence" output is weird but perhaps this is due to something else |
20:53:53 | pamaury | Ok, dinner time now, that's enough today |
20:54:26 | pamaury | If someone can have a look at those files and tell me something interesting |
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20:55:13 | pamaury | Please note that regularly the audio buffer underflow which generate a glitch |
20:58:03 | Luca_S | i'm looking at both files |
20:58:38 | pamaury | thanks, I'm going for some cooking :) |
20:58:43 | Luca_S | the output one is divided in parts.. the last part sounds pretty well, what was that? |
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20:59:09 | Luca_S | ok, see you tomorrow then, I'm gonna get out soon ;) |
20:59:50 | pamaury | the last part was "silence" iirc |
20:59:51 | pamaury | :) |
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21:00:41 | pamaury | If I have time, I'll do another test in better conditions |
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21:20:10 | CIA-5 | New commit by theseven (r25145): Implement Nano2G VFL multi-page read API (as a dummy for now) |
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21:21:19 | CIA-5 | New commit by theseven (r25146): Re-commit another small Nano2G FTL bugfix that got lost |
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21:27:23 | CIA-5 | New commit by theseven (r25147): Implement fast VFL read API (as a dummy) for Nano2G |
21:29:01 | CIA-5 | New commit by theseven (r25148): Fix a bug introduced in r25145 |
21:31:20 | CIA-5 | New commit by theseven (r25149): Use the new read API and introduce fast highlevel FTL code. |
21:34:31 | pamaury | what is the simplest format which can store raw PCM data ? |
21:34:34 | pamaury | WAV ? |
21:37:18 | bluebroth3r | pixelma: I've found a problem with wavtrim. It doesn't corrupt the wav files, as far as I've seen it only trims less than expected (obviously causing larger files). |
21:37:35 | bluebroth3r | pamaury: I'd say so. Or AIFF, which is pretty similar. |
21:39:06 | bluebroth3r | pixelma: need to check voicefont, it might have a similar issue too. |
21:39:28 | pamaury | bluebroth3r: is there code in rockbox to simply record raw pcm data to a file ? (probably in the recording code) |
21:39:44 | planetbeing | pamaury: this is my code that I put together while compiling http://pastie.org/868273 |
21:40:01 | planetbeing | It reads a WAV file and strips out the raw PCM data, shows you some stats, and even shows you a little ascii art of the wave. :p |
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21:40:26 | planetbeing | err, while debugging my own stuff* |
21:41:18 | pamaury | this is reading code, and I would like writing code :/ |
21:41:36 | planetbeing | from what to what? |
21:41:41 | TheSeven | erm, what are you trying to do? |
21:41:54 | pamaury | I'm trying to write the pcm data I get from usb to a file |
21:42:08 | bluebroth3r | pamaury: I guess so, but I'm not familiar with that code. I did a aiff -> wav conversion a while ago for Rockbox Utility. |
21:42:22 | bluebroth3r | if you want to have a look check rbutil/rbutilqt/base/ttscarbon.cpp |
21:42:25 | TheSeven | pamaury: ah, you're working on usb *recording*? i thought playback... |
21:42:56 | bluebroth3r | wav is basically the raw data in little endian with some header stuff (that holds sample rate and length) |
21:42:58 | * | gevaerts guesses that pamaury is working on verifying that data comes in correctly :) |
21:43:01 | pamaury | Yes but it doesn't work. There are there options: (1) bug in usb code (2) bug in playback code (3) bug in both |
21:43:18 | pamaury | So I want to find out where something is wrong |
21:43:23 | planetbeing | Yeah. Good idea. Writing something to put out a .wav is really easy, but I don't have code on hand to do it. |
21:43:31 | bluebroth3r | aiff is pretty similar, but the header is different and data is big endian instead. |
21:43:32 | gevaerts | pamaury: test_codec.c has wav writing |
21:43:48 | pamaury | gevaerts: where is this file ? |
21:43:54 | gevaerts | apps/plugins |
21:44:28 | pixelma | bluebroth3r: ok, might explain why the files are a bit bigger than I would expect |
21:44:33 | pamaury | ok thanks. I'll do it tomorrow anyway |
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21:46:03 | planetbeing | TheSeven: for multibank nand reading, is it basically just sending the read command to all banks, waiting for all banks to get done, and then transferring from each bank? |
21:46:24 | kugel | TheSeven: is there a reason to do things like "(*logentry).pagesused" instead of "logentry->pagesused" ? |
21:46:46 | kugel | another example of slightly confusing (because unusual) code :) |
21:47:54 | planetbeing | Also, I noticed that you reverted multibank nand writing at least was reverted. What chips did it fail on? |
21:48:04 | planetbeing | (Err. Pretend I know how to speak English.) |
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21:48:09 | * | gevaerts thinks that pamaury should start a flyspray task :) |
21:48:19 | liar | TheSeven: r25149 does not work very well on my nano2g :/ |
21:48:32 | pamaury | gevaerts: to share the codee ? |
21:48:42 | TheSeven | hm, another (maybe bad) habit of me... i like to clearly state what i'm doing in the code, and the dereference in the latter variant isn't as clearly visible as the * in the former variant |
21:48:46 | gevaerts | yes, I woudln't mind having a look |
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21:49:06 | TheSeven | liar: symptoms? the 2555d3ec one? |
21:49:17 | liar | yes the 2555d3ec one |
21:49:27 | kugel | TheSeven: I disagree that the former is less clear, I would argue the other way around |
21:49:49 | liar | TheSeven: rockbox says no ".rockbox" directory found and if i enter Files i see garbage filenames |
21:49:50 | kugel | err, more* clear |
21:49:57 | TheSeven | well, that's probably a matter of taste... |
21:49:58 | pamaury | gevaerts: ok, I'll do that tomorrow, if the code is clean enough :) |
21:50:05 | * | TheSeven needs to check the latest bug |
21:50:09 | gevaerts | ok |
21:50:34 | TheSeven | planetbeing: there are a whole bunch of chips that don't seem to support interleaved writes, but use cached writes instead, which i haven't yet implemented |
21:50:40 | TheSeven | but apperently, the highlevel code also has some bugs |
21:51:25 | TheSeven | liar: what's the last known-working one for you right now? |
21:51:51 | liar | TheSeven: r25149-1 |
21:51:52 | liar | so r25148 |
21:51:59 | TheSeven | oh, nice |
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21:52:11 | TheSeven | the 3 revisions before that are known-bad... |
21:52:28 | | Quit polobricolo (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
21:53:28 | kugel | TheSeven: I know we have very loose coding guidelines, but I always had the feeling that we implicitly want to follow existing code (it's even explicit per-file), since we want code maintainable by more than a single person |
21:54:37 | TheSeven | kugel: Yes, I agree with that, but i prefer to first get that thing working and then fix those style issues. |
21:54:46 | kugel | my it's only me, but reading your code feels like it came from another project, sometimes |
21:54:51 | kugel | s/my/maybe/ |
21:54:57 | TheSeven | kugel: actually it did |
21:55:18 | Luca_S | pamaury: I've taken a look at the file, but can't find any patterns. the waveform shows discontinuities (the glitches you were talking about?) every 0,015 secs. The FFT shows peaks every 880 Hz (= 440 * 2, sampling errors?). Also, there's some kind of amplitude modulation, but its characteristics vary with time. |
21:55:53 | Luca_S | i can't say anything more useful, sorry :( gotta go now, see you |
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21:56:24 | kugel | TheSeven: you mean ibugger, also written by you? :) |
21:56:50 | TheSeven | rather iLoader, which is itself based on my driver toolkit (which is used by all the other standalone tools) |
21:57:27 | kugel | all your iTools are a miracle to me anyway :p |
21:57:28 | TheSeven | the original FTL code was written way before i really cared about rockbox ;-) |
21:57:55 | planetbeing | TheSeven: Did you care about Linux back then? :p |
21:58:19 | TheSeven | I mostly cared about getting that thing to boot some code :-D |
21:58:42 | TheSeven | and no, i haven't done any linux work yet |
21:59:37 | planetbeing | Not the most fun. I just ported the iPhone stuff over to the latest kernel revision and spent two hours figuring out that for some reason, the new default allocator (SLUB) broke the boot but the old one (SLAB) doesn't. |
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22:00:44 | gevaerts | See, this is where rockbox shines :) |
22:00:51 | gevaerts | No allocator problems! |
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22:02:15 | planetbeing | It probably also has less detritus to wade through before you can actually find the problem. :) |
22:03:45 | gevaerts | That's why you're active in the wrong project ;) |
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22:04:17 | planetbeing | Right, right, will give me a call if you find anyone who wants to load rockbox on their iphone. ;) |
22:05:06 | planetbeing | As an OS replacement anyway. As an app, it'd probably be very cool. |
22:06:02 | gevaerts | Actually, people have asked for it. I don't know why |
22:06:57 | planetbeing | Well, someone can actually do it. I did pretty much all of the required reverse engineering. |
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22:17:39 | CIA-5 | New commit by theseven (r25150): Nano2G FTL: Increase spare buffer size to 4, values below that lead to problems |
22:17:50 | TheSeven | liar: can you test again? |
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22:18:35 | liar | yep |
22:25:04 | bluebrother | how safe it is to assume that all platforms wavtrim will run on have sizeof(short) == 2? |
22:25:24 | Torne | pretty safe |
22:25:40 | Torne | nothing recent or sane has sizeof(short) > 2 |
22:25:55 | Torne | cuz there would be no type left to be two bytes |
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22:27:25 | liar | TheSeven: r25150 seems to be okay |
22:27:39 | bluebrother | Torne: true, at least the reason :) |
22:27:51 | * | bluebrother will keep the short then for now. |
22:28:32 | TheSeven | what will 128bit be? long long long? |
22:29:46 | Torne | TheSeven: depends, you could have LP64LL128 I guess |
22:29:54 | Torne | int=32 long=64 long long=128 :) |
22:30:56 | TheSeven | i bet someone crazy will go for char = 16bit, short = 16bit, long = 32bit, long long = 64bit, int = 128bit :-P |
22:31:15 | TheSeven | just to not break compatitiblity with some crap. |
22:33:51 | Torne | sizeof(char) has to be 1 |
22:35:34 | bluebrother | TheSeven: I've worked with a DSP some years ago that had sizeof(char) = sizeof(short) = sizeof(int) = sizeof(float) = 1 = 32 bit |
22:35:55 | CIA-5 | New commit by theseven (r25151): Reset the Nano2G NAND idle timer also when leaving a NAND function, not just when entering them. |
22:36:51 | JdGordon1 | AlexP: bluebrother: got 30s to test a fix for the statusbar bug? |
22:38:05 | JdGordon1 | http://pastebin.com/svBLM48V |
22:38:19 | CIA-5 | New commit by theseven (r25152): Nano2G lowlevel NAND operation transaction splitting support |
22:38:36 | amiconn | The MAS is even more fun: 20 bit instructions and data |
22:41:18 | CIA-5 | New commit by theseven (r25153): Nano2G NAND parallel read support |
22:42:17 | bluebrother | JdGordon1: sure, give me a couple of minutes |
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22:44:41 | CIA-5 | New commit by theseven (r25154): Nano2G NAND interleaved write support |
22:45:25 | CIA-5 | New commit by theseven (r25155): Nano2G NAND interleaved erase support |
22:47:36 | crazed | anyone know of a script that will parse out directory structure to the actual names of the songs in an itunesdb? |
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22:48:32 | * | TheSeven once wrote such a thing |
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22:50:44 | crazed | you still have it by any chance? |
22:53:20 | bluebrother | JdGordon1: I still can see the problem in the sim. Will try a full rebuild to make sure. |
22:55:25 | CIA-5 | New commit by theseven (r25156): Add the new Nano2G NAND functions to nand-target.g |
22:55:44 | CIA-5 | New commit by theseven (r25157): Make the Nano2G FTL use the new parallel read function |
22:56:01 | TheSeven | liar: can you check if 25157 breaks for you? |
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22:58:58 | TheSeven | crazed: http://www.file-upload.net/download-2343946/MyPod.zip.html |
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23:00:42 | crazed | thanks, now i have to figure out how to use java ;) |
23:01:36 | JdGordon1 | bluebrother: hmm, yeah actually that sholdnt have fixed it anyway (still waking up)... |
23:02:32 | | Quit mischasworld (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) |
23:03:42 | JdGordon1 | bluebrother: AlexP: http://pastebin.com/pGWE8qtq |
23:06:42 | crazed | TheSeven: any idea if this works on linux? |
23:07:17 | TheSeven | i haven't tested it, but as it is written in java, it should |
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23:08:40 | crazed | http://pastie.org/868361 |
23:08:44 | TheSeven | i'm not sure whether it can dump a path to name mapping, but it can copy the files from an ipod and give them a proper name fetched from the database, so it should be easy to build whatever functionality you would like to have based on that. you have the source code, feel free to adapt it to fit your needs |
23:09:08 | crazed | TheSeven: that sounds exactly like what i'm tryingn to do |
23:09:18 | gevaerts | Zagor: I still get "Fatal build error: Missing log file. You have been temporarily disabled" occasionally |
23:09:28 | TheSeven | you'll have to pass the path to the ipod as a command line argument |
23:09:43 | TheSeven | crazed: but whe should move this over to #rockbox-community |
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23:09:47 | saratoga | woah libtremor using our new imdct suddenly works for me even though i don't think i changed anything |
23:09:49 | Zagor | gevaerts: but you should be allowed back after 10 minutes now. are you? |
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23:10:01 | saratoga | i blame that stupid libtool based make system tremor uses |
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23:10:38 | Zagor | hey, saratoga. your mil1 client wants a kill/restart. |
23:11:38 | gevaerts | Zagor: I was kicked off at 21:26 and I wasn't allowed back yet for the latest commit, at 22:55 |
23:11:48 | Zagor | :-( |
23:12:28 | saratoga | Zagor: done |
23:13:43 | scorche | just as an FYI: > 367 #FOSS projects submitted applications to #Google Summer of Code 2010! |
23:14:58 | gevaerts | Zagor: I just get the message though. Am I supposed to actually lose the connection? |
23:15:25 | TheSeven | so an average of 3 to 4 students per project is to be expected? |
23:15:49 | gevaerts | TheSeven: not directly. These are applications, not acceptances |
23:15:54 | Zagor | gevaerts: aha, that's the bug. thanks. |
23:16:21 | TheSeven | that's what the "to 4" is for |
23:16:33 | TheSeven | i was thinking more about the minimum number |
23:16:58 | gevaerts | I think they allocate from 2 to something like 50 students per project |
23:16:58 | scorche | minimum number is 1 project, of course ;) |
23:17:22 | TheSeven | liar: still around? |
23:17:38 | scorche | there will probably be ~150 orgs accepted and ~1000 students/projects |
23:21:43 | | Quit liar (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
23:22:18 | scorche | as a reminder, if you are interested in helping out with GSoC (mentoring, choosing projects, etc), please join #rockbox-gsoc if you havent already... |
23:24:24 | bluebrother | JdGordon1: looks fine now |
23:24:56 | JdGordon1 | scorcheinvite only? |
23:25:02 | JdGordon1 | bluebrother: cool |
23:25:18 | gevaerts | JdGordon1: cloak only |
23:25:23 | CIA-5 | New commit by bluebrother (r25158): Fix wavtrim not working correctly on PPC. ... |
23:25:24 | scorche | JdGordon1: you need to be indentified... |
23:25:31 | JdGordon1 | ah, am i not idented :/ |
23:25:41 | scorche | nope |
23:26:05 | CIA-5 | New commit by jdgordon (r25159): fix FS #11100 - statusbar would show up on multiscreen targets if either screen had it enabled |
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23:30:07 | saratoga | they've offered us more slots each year, even last year when supposedly they were getting more strict |
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23:31:17 | saratoga | i think embedded projects like us get a different set of expectations then normal projects |
23:32:08 | scorche | ...or they just like us more... |
23:32:14 | saratoga | mt, stripwax: (for the logs) I've got tremor working pretty well with our mdct now, and we have no known LGPL/GPL code in it |
23:32:32 | saratoga | we should try and get it cleaned up and then see what monty thinks about it over at xiph.org |
23:34:04 | Zagor | saratoga: can you kill mil1 again? I'm getting weird things in the log. |
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23:34:53 | saratoga | Zagor: done |
23:35:27 | saratoga | want a pastebin of the console session? it looks normal to me |
23:35:58 | Zagor | the server asks it to update, but it keeps coming back with the old version |
23:36:32 | saratoga | it says "At revision 25159." when i try svn up |
23:37:15 | Zagor | look in the head of rbclient.pl |
23:37:24 | Zagor | it should be 25129 |
23:38:05 | gevaerts | kugel: Do I remember correctly that the "clean up the radio code" gsoc idea was yours? |
23:38:11 | Zagor | oh, sorry. it doesn't show the revision there... |
23:38:21 | kugel | gevaerts: no |
23:38:40 | gevaerts | ok, I won't complain to you then :) |
23:38:44 | Zagor | saratoga: like 17 should be "my $revision = 34;" |
23:38:55 | Zagor | line |
23:39:00 | saratoga | Zagor: it is |
23:39:11 | gevaerts | a messed up checkout? |
23:39:32 | saratoga | do you want access to the screen session its running in? |
23:39:47 | Zagor | that would be nice |
23:40:33 | kugel | gevaerts: I believe JdGordon added it, but wiki history is more trustworthy |
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23:41:04 | JdGordon_ | that was mine |
23:41:27 | JdGordon_ | its not a small job, and a boring one, so the pay incentive means it might actually get done |
23:41:53 | gevaerts | On that side I fully agree, but I'm not convinced that it's suitable because of some other reasons |
23:42:02 | JdGordon_ | such as? |
23:43:25 | gevaerts | Is it suitable for people new to rockbox? That's not a deal breaker of course |
23:44:20 | gevaerts | On the other hand, is it two months of work for an existing contributor/committer who knows the code? |
23:44:41 | gevaerts | Or do we leave those to be answered by whoever wants to do it? :) |
23:45:21 | kugel | a existing contributor would probably do it in less than a month |
23:45:54 | gevaerts | Of course, such a contributor could then go on and clean up other bits |
23:48:10 | gevaerts | On the other hand it's an easy project to track progress on |
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23:52:59 | saratoga | I've uploaded the working libtremor patch to the wiki |
23:55:43 | saratoga | attached files on the wiki still don't always work correctly |
23:55:48 | saratoga | i keep getting permission denied errors |
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