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#rockbox log for 2010-05-08

00:02:52CIA-5New commit by Buschel (r25893): Use 'HZ' and remove 'volatile' as suggested by kugel.
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00:13:21saratogaif uchida comes back and asks abotu TTA, tell him I have a very rough patch, but that I think using the ffmpeg decoder might be the easiest way rather then my patch
00:13:37saratogaffmpeg's decoder is nearly the same but they've already done some of the clean up work we'd need
00:16:23bluebrotherBagder: last line in −− do you think this is a good thing to have enabled?
00:17:02bluebrotherlooks pretty nice in my local installation
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00:22:47saratogafunman: I already got a 1.0 fuzev2 bootloader on the download server, but we can just as easily change it to a 1.1 bootlaoder when you're ready
00:22:56saratogawe haven't actually linked it to the wiki yet anyway
00:27:07CIA-5New commit by funman (r25894): Correct manual entry for Sansa Clip keymap ...
00:27:41soapS_a_i_n_t_, did the artist badge stuff get cleared up, or does it warrant further discussion w/you?
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00:29:13funmansaratoga: ok, i wanted to use the same version number for fuzev2 and clipv2/+
00:29:38funmanfs#11246 looks ok, i just need some more testing to see if it works on amsv2 too
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00:31:55funmanbtw fuzev1 battery life is incredibly high now
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00:33:50funmani'll measure r25821 improvement but the improvement looks way too high compared to ranma measurements
00:34:21funmanthe gain on clipv1 is a bit less than on fuze though
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00:35:44funmanclipv1 needs 44.7mA and fuzev1 needs 37mA
00:37:36funmane200v2 needs 44.4mA
00:41:18funmanare you OK for moving the memory controller change to rockbox.sansa on as3525'v1' so we can keep using current bootloaders ?
00:46:11funmannext question: should new bootloaders be 1.1 or 2.0 ?
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00:53:15funmansaratoga: btw this info could be given to sandisk, you still have an active contact there?
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00:57:46kugelfunman: 2.0 I think
00:58:15kugelfunman: what numbers have you got for the fuzev1 of?
00:58:28kugelit's rated for 24h, I'd be surprised if we beat them already
00:59:15funman says 13h42 for OF
00:59:33kugelheh, that's using ogg
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00:59:53kugelthey have this super inefficient decoder which easily halves the runtime they get with mp3
00:59:55funmanah :/
01:00:35funmaneven if we can get closer using this setting, the OF could extend its battery life too so there's still some pretty big difference between us & them
01:00:42kugelsee what the of can do with mp3 on the clipv1
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01:01:40funman2 times better
01:02:00funmandid we try powering down the lcd completely already ?
01:02:19kugelI don't know
01:02:49kugelwe could try clocking down the dbop a bit too, but I don't know how much, if any, effect that'll have
01:05:16kugelsaratoga offered giving sandisk a patch with a better ogg decoder, IIRC they were interested but I don't know what happened about it
01:05:53funmanI wonder if we could trade some help in exchange of that
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01:12:13funmanclipv1, dbop freq = pclk/8, boosted = problems
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01:19:37funmanzxbox seems to crash, although i remember it used to work
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01:27:19saratogafunman: sandisk doesn't use that setting?
01:27:43funmanno i used the OF settings for memory
01:27:55saratogabefore this patch?
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01:28:10funmanthough it could be change in some place i haven't found
01:28:31saratogabtw, the OF does so bad at Ogg because they forgot to define ARM_ASSEM
01:28:35funmansomeone with JTAG could dump the register and see
01:30:03funmanare you still talkign with them ?
01:30:22funmani could drop something about this patch on their forum but i prefer if you speak with your contact
01:32:29saratogai haven't heard anything back from them
01:32:41saratogawell after the first email where they asked about tremor
01:32:48saratogaso i have no idea what if anything they're interested in
01:32:58funmani'll try to modify OF first
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01:53:19funmanbtw i thought about this: if we have a problem with switching cpu freq, then it could hit the bootloader
01:53:42funmanhowever due to the rarity of crashes (compared to the number of calls to set_cpu_frequency() ) i think it's safe to ignore it for now
01:53:56saratogadoes the bootloader ever boost?
01:54:24funmanyes it starts boosted in system_init() (though it doesn't call set_cpu_frequency() )
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02:14:01stasisdotcdis there a build that u can run rockbox on a jailbroken 1g itouch?
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02:18:32stasisdotcdthis makes me sad in pants
02:18:57stasisdotcdnow i gotta deal w ebay and those charlatans
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02:36:12funmankrazykit: ping
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02:36:26krazykitfunman, yeeeeeees?
02:36:42funmando you have pics of the fuzev2 battery? i see you uploaded the PCB pictures to the wiki
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02:37:29krazykiti wouldn't. i haven't got a clue where those devices would be. i suspect someone threw them away in my absence :/
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03:05:32tmzt`is it different than fuzev1 battery?
03:07:01funmanwell i want to know if it is
03:07:16funmanclip+ battery is smaller than clipv1 battery at least (dunno about clipv2 either)
03:07:41tmztI have a fuzev1 but I've never taken it apart
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03:14:58funmanfuzev1 battery is 550mA
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03:52:57Blue_DudeOK guys here you go. I gave in/wimped out/saw the light/came around/(insert your colloquialism here).
03:54:12Blue_DudeI rewrote hotkeys to remove setting in the context menu and put them in a menu. The reset screen is gone, the view hotkeys screen is gone. The yesno dialog is gone. The damned icons are gone.
03:55:17Blue_DudeAll that's left is two menus, one for wps and one for tree. I figured out a way to change the settings_list to only show the appropriate options, so that behaves.
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03:56:38Blue_DudeI'm going to miss being able to set them from the appropriate screen but the oddities were piling up and after living with the hotkeys for a couple of months I don't change them as often as I originally figured.
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04:15:24joeygdoes anyone have information about the arm cp15 registers?
04:17:45saratogajoeyg: the arm reference manual, the source for the arm9 rockbox ports
04:18:35Blue_DudeHotkey menu patch is at FS #11250. No, the manual hasn't changed yet. Later.
04:21:15S_a_i_n_t_menus for hotkey?....really?
04:21:24S_a_i_n_t_blargh. what did I miss?
04:21:55S_a_i_n_t_what happened to the long-select idea?
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04:22:41Blue_DudeTake a look at the patch I just posted. It works better this way. It's just harder to change from the screen.
04:23:09Blue_DudeOther than that, there's no real downside.
04:23:32Blue_DudeThe hard part was making the menus behave. The rest is pretty easy.
04:23:39S_a_i_n_t_sweet, will do...I hadn'y gotten *too* used to something working the way I wanted it to for a change ;)
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04:25:02Blue_DudeI've been using it for a couple of months. I do occasionally change assignments on the fly and I'll miss that. The complications were... complicating.
04:25:48S_a_i_n_t_Blue_Dude: I do however, like the idea that the list will now only show options which can be defined as hotkey...that was slightly annoying, and removes the need for a hotkey icon.
04:25:53S_a_i_n_t_Good work.
04:26:02Blue_DudeI had to deprecate a few lang strings. I wonder if we might clean them out once and for all at some point.
04:26:54Blue_DudeYeah, that was the tricky part. I had to use a table_setting menu and then make it behave.
04:27:12joeygsaratoga: thanks, the source has the exact lines of code that were confusing me :) will pick up arm reference manual rsn
04:27:26Blue_DudeMenus are a pain.
04:27:42S_a_i_n_t_I assume things can be added to it (if need be) without much hassle?
04:27:56S_a_i_n_t_In case something new and hotkeyable ever pops up.
04:28:06saratogajoeyg: i think if you're just using a plain arm9 target, you shouldn't have to touch them
04:28:29saratogawe should already set it up in rockbox
04:28:37saratogaunless your player is a lot different then the others
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04:29:21Blue_DudeS_a_i_n_t: Any new items have to go in three places: onplay.c, onplay.h and settings_list.c. There's a note to that effect in the code.
04:30:15S_a_i_n_t_Sweet, I'll have a look shortly.
04:31:07n1sBlue_Dude: cleaning up deprecated lang strings breaks voice file compatibility so we try to do it rather seldom, or when that breaks anyway
04:31:12joeygsratoga: im using a tcc7901, which is very similar to tcc7801
04:31:25joeygbut im reading the manufacturer firmware to understand how they configure things
04:31:49joeygbecause there is a lot built-in and a lot of gpio, etc, are not in the datasheet
04:32:12Blue_Dudenls: I knew it was something like that. But since voice files have to be rerun occasionally anyway, why not make the effort to clear out the deadwood occasionally?
04:33:45Blue_DudeS_a_i_n_t: There's a better note in there now. The old one was a bit vague. When/if I commit, the note will be there.
04:35:21Blue_Dudenls: There's also some tiptoeing around changing lang strings for that reason. Why not declare a lang spring cleaning and let it be known that voice files will have to be rerun?
04:37:01n1sBlue_Dude: sure it's no big problem but with added strings, the old voicefiles work but just lack the new strings, if we delete a string in the middle of english.lang, the ids will shift so the wrong strings will play, making the voice ui unusable, although i think most users depending on voice update build and voicefile at the same time
04:37:59n1sBlue_Dude: sure, go ahead :)
04:38:28*Blue_Dude declares: Today is lang cleaning day!
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04:40:10Blue_DudeSeriously, how about sometime just after the next freeze. Clean out the new branch. That would be a good time to rebuild.
04:44:27S_a_i_n_t_Blue_Dude: have you seen the ammount of deprecated strings in english.lang? it'll take quite a bit of effort... n1s summed it up pretty well. but, I'm sure it would be worth it.
04:45:09Blue_DudeWhen I deprecated the strings, I noticed that they were far from alone. That made me think that it had been a while.
04:45:22S_a_i_n_t_and, why *after* the next freeze? why not before this coming one?
04:45:36n1sS_a_i_n_t_: it's not much effort deleting a bunch of lines and updating some version numbers
04:45:39S_a_i_n_t_and yes, some have been in there for as long as I can remember
04:45:47Blue_DudeI was thinking that we could clean out the release branch instead of the working copy.
04:45:52n1saround 60 deprecated strings in english.lang
04:46:41Blue_DudeSo "version 3.5" would require a rebuild rather than r25540 or whatever.
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04:46:53n1si did clean this up long ago, and deleted a bunch of duplicated strings and a few unused that were not marked as deprecated
04:48:06S_a_i_n_t_well...according to Blue_Dude, today is "lang cleaning day" so I'm pretty sure he just volunteered for the job :P
04:48:51Blue_DudeIt's easy to declare anything. Doing the work is something else.
04:48:52n1si think it's ok to do it as long as we are not in a freeze
04:51:46Blue_DudeI'm not personally anxious to take it on. I've got other things on my plate at the moment.
04:53:14*n1s spots duplicated strings in english.lang now too. Why don't people search for the string they want to add before adding it?
04:55:52Blue_DudeYeah, I try to "repurpose" lang strings when I can.
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07:56:39*S_a_i_n_t_ decides to have a look at updating the Tango iconset as suggested by kugel earlier...
07:57:22S_a_i_n_t_I'm just having a *look* at the moment, but I will be doing it eventually so I may as well start soon/now.
07:57:45S_a_i_n_t_Ideally I'm going to make a 12, 14, and 16px iconset.
07:58:27S_a_i_n_t_small - med - large screen targets. currently, 12px icons look a little weird on the bigscreen players IMO
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09:45:38CIA-5New commit by jethead71 (r25895): Gigabeat S: Reclaim about 800K of memory that was laying unused. Get rid of DEVBSS_ATTR for this target and implement as NOCACHEBSS_ATTR. Plugin and ...
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10:32:10CIA-5New commit by jethead71 (r25896): Clean the DCache just before going to main because areas were written by init code that need to be coherent (.ncbss and .sdmacode).
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11:48:36JdGordonS_a_i_n_t_: what about the icon code should be fixed up?
11:49:00S_a_i_n_t_ I have a bug lodged re: viewer icons.
11:49:02JdGordonapart from the viewers icons not completly working?
11:52:14S_a_i_n_t_I think there needs to be a few more icons, or perhaps sort out what ones get used still etc. Was talking to jhMikeS about the way the .kbd screen used to work re: it's icons. showing icon_reverse_cursor doesn't seem to make too much sense there for one..
11:53:09S_a_i_n_t_And the icon colour gets inverted when the selector bar is on it, which we guessed was from the days of mono icons...but now it just looks weird
11:53:21jhMikeSS_a_i_n_t_: doesn't make sense in general, or doesn't make sense as it looks? < == there's more to the left, > = there's more to the right
11:53:46JdGordonthe keyboard screen is overdue for an overhaul imo
11:54:05JdGordonbut yes, if you want ot sort out which icnos are actually used and where please go for it :)
11:54:05S_a_i_n_t_doesn't make much sense in "looks", sorry.
11:54:20S_a_i_n_t_Showing an icon there makes perfect sense, if it's the correct one ;)
11:54:26jhMikeSJdGordon: it needs to use the theme font. it's itty bitty on the F and S
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11:54:53S_a_i_n_t_that's what .kbd files are for
11:55:33S_a_i_n_t_except .kbd files can't be included in a theme for some suck reason.
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11:55:58JdGordonI wouldnt expect them to be
11:55:59S_a_i_n_t_I mentioned that a while ago, but someone had a better argument for not including it I guess.
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11:57:01S_a_i_n_t_Well, if the font is changed, and someone uses a .kbd, it still uses that .kbd file but with the larger font. At the very least a theme should be able to reset a .kbd file (errr..unset rather) if one is set.
11:57:11JdGordonjhMikeS: the keyboard does use the ui font doesnt it?
11:57:33jhMikeSJdGordon: just sysfont it looks like
11:58:06jhMikeSthe kbd letters could scroll as you move the selector
11:58:47S_a_i_n_t_the vkeyboard uses userfont on my DAPs :/
11:58:59S_a_i_n_t_*without* a .kbd file.
11:59:49*JdGordon spots a WTF in keyboard.c
12:00:22S_a_i_n_t_oh, wait...."reset settings" doesnt unload a custon keyboard....gah!
12:00:22JdGordonand yeah, it does use sysfixed
12:00:25JdGordonle suck!
12:00:40*JdGordon has no intention of redoing the keyboard
12:00:48JdGordonwaaaayy to contentious
12:01:37*S_a_i_n_t_ wonders why the hell "reset settings" doesn't *actually* reset all settings...
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12:03:48S_a_i_n_t_*slap forehead*
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12:05:25jhMikeSto reset it?
12:06:00JdGordonpamaury: hey, I got the menu working.. need to clean it up and send a patch :)
12:06:01S_a_i_n_t_to drod a custom keyboard setting apparently...
12:06:07S_a_i_n_t_not all the setting ;)
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12:07:04jhMikeSin all this time I never even tried one as little as I use the thing.
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12:07:04pamauryJdGordon: perfect :) I have no way to test it until tomorrow night but you can always send me the patch so I can have a look!
12:07:04S_a_i_n_t_A .kbd file?
12:07:04S_a_i_n_t_I couldn't live without mine...
12:07:14JdGordonits a bit messier than I would like, but it works :)
12:07:22jhMikeSS_a_i_n_t_: yep, never ever
12:07:34S_a_i_n_t_wow, what target do you use?
12:07:46S_a_i_n_t_something with a big screen I guess ;)
12:08:11jhMikeSusually the beast or the e260
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12:09:40S_a_i_n_t_Hmmm, odd. I needed to make my own as I like to use 14/15pt font (I'm pretty damn blind) and I realised I never *ever* use half of the 'special' characters in the vkeyboard.
12:09:55S_a_i_n_t_So, I cut it down to "simple english"
12:11:42jhMikeSMakes sense. I pretty much use it for limited renaming. It's just too weird to "type" on something not even meant for it.
12:12:49S_a_i_n_t_I totally agree...bit it's a lot easier (IMO) if there are only characters onscren you'll actually use and it's not in uber-tiny sysfont.
12:14:25jhMikeSstay away from that 240x320 screen if you don't like small letters, great for debugging messages but not for general use
12:14:34JdGordonwith limitied mulitfont support now the keyboard could load its own font regarldess of the theme
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12:17:08*JdGordon thinks a hamming distance of 2 is acceptable :)
12:17:13JdGordonregardless of the theme font
12:18:03jhMikeS:) if olny ervyone tohuht thta wya
12:18:11JdGordonyeah if only :)
12:18:25JdGordoneven with the missing g that was perfectly readable
12:19:43JdGordonTorne: did you do anything more on the fontcache problem?
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15:07:54RafaelCould anyone help me?
15:09:07n1sRafael: if you tell us your problem , we might
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15:13:12Rafael I want to get my D2 boot with Rockbox by default,and I have already changed the code of crt0.s,but I dont know how to make it into bootloader.bin.
15:13:12Rafael I want to get my D2 boot with Rockbox by default,and I have already changed the code of crt0.s,but I dont know how to make it into bootloader.bin.
15:13:12DBUGSent KICK Rafael to server
15:13:12Rafael I want to get my D2 boot with Rockbox by default,and I have already changed the code of crt0.s,but I dont know how to make it into bootloader.bin.
15:13:12Rafael<Rafael> So can anyone help me?
15:13:12Kick(#rockbox Rafael :Stop repeating yourself) by logbot!
15:13:55stripwaxwould it be possible to use a disk that has large physical sectors, in an iriver h120? I'm thinking hardware wouldn't be an issue, provided the rockbox bootloader and rockbox firmware are built with the large physical sector option(s). But I don't know whether the usb bridge would still work (or whether that's an OS issue)
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15:15:07stripwax[specifically for a disk that doesn't support unaligned writes, that is].
15:15:14LongI want to get my D2 boot with Rockbox by default,and I have already changed the code of crt0.s,but I dont know how to make it into bootloader.bin.
15:15:37stripwaxSecondary question- is there a list *anywhere* that enables a prospective hard drive purchaser to determine if the drive supports unaligned writes.. ?
15:16:03LongSo what I have to do next?
15:16:40stripwaxLong - it sounds like you need to compile the bootloader .. ?
15:17:12Longdo you have some idea?
15:17:31stripwaxLong - have you tried? i.e. create a build directory, run ../tools/configure, select the model, select a bootloader build .. run make .. etc?
15:18:21stripwaxLong - I am sure there are wiki pages about how to build the bootloader..
15:18:30Longoh.I just rember it can be don like that..
15:18:43Longi will try
15:18:51Longthank you very much
15:20:04pixelmaI'm surprised that the a usual Rockbox bootloader doesn't do this already, even though the D2 port is still in progress
15:21:19Longpixelma - So how can i set the RB first-boot?
15:21:28CIA-5New commit by learman (r25899): Save some binsize.
15:23:02pixelmaLong: sorry, I don't know enough about this specific port, it's just that booting into Rockbox is standard for all others so I'm surprised
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15:23:34pixelmalong: sorry, I don't know enough about this specific port, it's just that booting into Rockbox is standard for all others so I'm surprised
15:25:19longthank you all the same
15:26:48JdGordoncan anyone understand uchidas reply to FS #11216?
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15:32:10longi just need to type "make",then i can get the bootloader.bin,no more commands is needed,do I?
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15:44:02kugelJdGordon: I think he wants to say that a) buffering the bitmap might fail due to full buffer and b) the bitmap would take valuable space which would be better used for music
15:46:34JdGordonhow does the id3 stuff get into a handle? it is read and parsed from disk right? or does the file get ino the buffer first?
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15:47:15kugelI think the id3 is read separately before the music data is buffered
15:47:55kugelIt seems to me that he doesn't realize that the same issues apply for the current album art implementation and that we still prefer the MoB version
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15:50:20JdGordonwill I get in trouble if I linkt hat vid again? :D
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15:54:28longLOL,i have change the RB to my D2+' default firmware successfully!
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16:00:39kugelfunman: I think you can omit the author field if you're the author. we use it to catch regular contributors more easily
16:01:14bertrikflyspray is weird, it says I should enter a comment before hitting the submit button, but I actually *did* enter a comment and there is actually no "submit" button.
16:02:08JdGordon1does screenshot instead of usb work on targets with hardware usb? (i.e h300?)
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16:02:54pixelmaat least it used to, haven't tried in a while
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16:10:07funmankugel: switching clipv1 dbop clock to 7.75MHz instead of 62MHz (and increasing a tiny bit the delays when writing lcd regs/data) *reduced* runtime by ~1 hour
16:11:46JdGordon1pamaury_: will show the menu on connect.. I'm not sure if we want to use that UI or not... and if that would work to set the defaults if the menu is disabled
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16:14:52JdGordon1 screenshot of possible USB connection menu
16:16:15funman , best runtime is made with calibrated curve so it's linear
16:16:34bertrikfunman, I can imagine that it is caused by the CPU having to do longer busy-waits while updating the display
16:16:50pamaury_JdGordon1: thanks, I'll have a look at it later
16:17:22funmanbertrik: yep, i think we must make the dbop as fast as possible
16:20:54funmanwhich version should the new as3525v2 bootloader have: 1.1 ? 2.0 ? 3.14159265 ?
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16:24:39funmanIIRC the PP bootloaders have been made with 1.0 increments
16:29:18funmanBuschel: did you see ?
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16:53:43CIA-5New commit by funman (r25901): Sansa Cliv2: calibrated discharge curve
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16:55:32Luca_Sfunman: are you still interested in fuzev2 benches? i'm currently running a bench with plain r25890, and plan to run anoter one with current svn as soon as it ends/recharges. also: would a battery bench while recharging within RB be useful?
16:56:15funmanLuca_S: why not, i got 19h30 with fs#11246 so if you update your bootloader from SVN you should get something like that
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16:56:31funmanrecharging would be useful even if it stops at 67% yep
16:56:47Luca_Sthat stopping at 67% sounds odd
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16:57:32funmani'm building new bootloaders
16:58:00Luca_Si'm a bit risk adverse - did the bootloader get other changes apart from the ones in power settings?
16:58:45funmangiven there were no binary release i can't tell which revision you used
16:59:22Luca_Sright. I'm using the very first binary published on the forum thread
17:00:53bertrikI think the interface towards the codec was changed, with some kind of asynchronous callback mode (I don't know the exact details)
17:03:22funmanthe more important is r25445 it should prevent 'temp brick' problems when booting (no backlight)
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17:04:43Luca_Sthank you. i'll complete these tests over this weekend
17:05:39funmani just built 2.0 bootloaders
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17:13:50funmanhm i have to make a svn checkout just to create a tag :(
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17:14:03funmancould someone using svn create the tag for me?
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17:15:23funmanjust run svn copy svn:// svn:// -m 'Tag release v2 of the Sansa as3525v2 bootloaders' , before a new commit is made
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17:16:02funman(a lot of "v2" in there)
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17:17:46funmanjust run svn copy svn:// svn:// -m 'Tag release v2 of the Sansa as3525v2 bootloaders'
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17:18:52bertrikoh sorry, did I just make the tag harder?
17:19:17bertrikI'm not so familiar with the svn copy command
17:20:00funmannope you can specify the revision (it's the 2nd command i pasted)
17:20:12bertrikcan I just copy and paste that in the root of a clean rockbox checkout?
17:23:32CIA-5New commit by bertrik (r25903): Tag release v2 of the Sansa as3525v2 bootloaders
17:23:40bertrikok, there it goes
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19:07:48domonoky1S_a_i_n_t: as far as i understand that, he want to have a option to set the hot-key to only turn on the backlight.
19:08:59S_a_i_n_tI thought that for a while...but, wouldn't a button-press do that anyway?
19:09:32S_a_i_n_ts/button-press/single button-press rather than a key combo/
19:09:56domonoky1yes, but other button presses also do something else (if you dont have the first-press enables backlight option on).
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19:10:41domonoky1and i think on some targets the hot-key is a single key ? (not a combo)
19:11:43S_a_i_n_taha...setting the backlight to filter the first keypress seems a lot easier...I wonder if the commenter knows of this function...
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19:14:00domonoky1probably not :-)
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19:38:09e^can someone help me please!
19:38:23domonoky1only if you ask a question.. :-)
19:38:54e^ok well i didnt unistall rockbox the "proper" way i just deleted the rockbox folder from the ipod
19:39:06e^now the ipod is not being recognized at all
19:39:20e^the screen is showing that i need to press menu + center button to reset
19:39:22e^this does not work
19:39:43e^i cant get into the ipod at all
19:39:50domonoky1this should always works, thats a hardware feature...
19:40:16domonoky1you have to get into emergency disc mode and uninstall the bootloader properly.
19:40:29e^how do i go about that : /
19:40:40gevaertsHow long have you pressed menu+center?
19:40:47e^about 45 seconds
19:41:22e^this is so frustrating
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19:41:29e^just feel like smashing it
19:42:10domonoky1when you press menu+select very long, the ipod should reboot. Make sure you dont move the finger on Menu.
19:42:53domonoky1and directly after reboot hold select+ play to get into diskmode.
19:43:34S_a_i_n_tit can help to use two fingers to do this, instead of trying to do it with a single digit.
19:44:04e^nope nothing
19:44:08e^way over a minute
19:44:15e^when it worked before took 10 seconds max
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19:44:55e^nope its fucked
19:45:04e^any suggestions?
19:45:22domonoky1you could also wait for the battery to run empty..
19:45:38e^then when i charge it up
19:45:43e^it displays the screen again..
19:45:55gevaertsswitch on hold
19:45:56e^oh god
19:46:02e^oh yep
19:46:53e^guess i will wait
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19:47:23e^if its not being recognized by itunes or rockbox what else can you do?
19:50:12domonoky1get it into diskmode, and you will be able to restore it.
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19:50:39domonoky1ipods are nearly unbrickable, unless you really have hardware issues, (or use a hammer with gusto) :-)
19:52:48S_a_i_n_tIf the latter, put it on YouTube so we all get to enjoy it :P
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19:54:07gevaertse^: it's not recognised because the rockbox bootloader (which is where it's stuck) doesn't do USB
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19:58:05GeekShad0wany progress on supporting meizu m3 ?
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20:03:55S_a_i_n_tGeekShad0w: Have you checked the Rockbox Wiki?
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20:04:46gevaertsGeekShad0w: unless you've done something, I think not
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20:11:55Blue_DudeA new patch is up at FS #11250. It removes the hotkey set function from the context menu and puts it in a settings menu. It also has appropriate manual updates. I plan to commit this evening if there are no objections.
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20:46:56Buschelkugel: could you please review FS #11253 ?
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21:07:37DGMurdockIIIdose rockbox work on the Zune HD
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21:14:48domonoky1DGMurdockIII: no, it only works on those devices listed on the frontpage.
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21:54:39RzBoHi everyone
21:56:07RzBoI have a problem with my iPod vidéo 80G : when i shutdown Rockbox, my iPod restart automatically under apple fw after few minutes.
21:56:46bluebrotherRzBo: which version of Rockbox are you running?
21:59:00gevaertsI think there's a fix for that in current builds
21:59:55RzBook :-) so i will look at the next release
22:00:10bluebrotherRzBo: I suggest updating to a current build
22:00:22gevaertsOur current builds are generally pretty good
22:00:24bluebrotherthose are usually pretty stable
22:00:39bluebrother(in fact, I'm only running svn builds)
22:02:33RzBook i'm downloading the current build ...
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22:05:31bluebrotherdang. Updated my Windows build machine to MinGW gcc 4.5 and the latest Qt release and now upx doesn't like the binary anymore :(
22:07:05RzBoCan i only copy the"rockbox.ipod" files for updating ?
22:07:12bluebrotherRzBo: no.
22:07:22bluebrotherbesides, I suggest using Rockbox Utility for updating.
22:07:53bluebrothercopying only rockbox.ipod is likely (and IMO will definitely) result in "codec error" and "incompatible version" errors
22:09:15RzBook , i understand ;-)
22:12:34RzBoupdating is running ( with a backup before, in case... ;-) )
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22:17:37RzBoinstallation successfull, i'm waiting few minutes and i will tell you if it works now
22:19:48bluebrotherBagder: any thoughts on wiki syntax in FS?
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22:25:29bluebrotherhmm, building with gcc 4.5 seems to be noticably faster than with gcc 3.4 on MinGW.
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22:30:27wodzplease look at FS #11254
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22:34:22RzBoHi again, just for saying that the current release seems to fix the "automatic reboot in apple fw after shutdown", thank you ! see you later
22:34:32Blue_DudeBug in resume playback. In wav files. Play a wav file. TUrn off the DAP. Resume playback and it crashes. Doesn't happen with other file formats. Oops.
22:34:32Blue_Dudeback later
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22:34:49RzBosorry not current release but current build
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