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| 00:01:05 | webguest88 | hmmm i am trying |
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| 00:01:59 | * | jhMikeS hasn't even replaced the bootloader in his H120 since he first got it in '06 or '07 ... still works fine :) |
| 00:02:31 | webguest88 | yup! |
| 00:02:49 | webguest88 | i think i am into manu mode |
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| 00:03:37 | webguest88 | thanks everyone |
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| 00:04:00 | webguest88 | thanks gevaerts |
| 00:04:09 | webguest88 | thanks bluebrother |
| 00:04:18 | webguest88 | jhmikes |
| 00:04:51 | webguest88 | if any1 here is the mod of the site |
| 00:05:14 | bluebrother | mod of the site? |
| 00:05:31 | webguest88 | yup |
| 00:05:36 | bluebrother | what's that? |
| 00:05:49 | * | bluebrother isn't a modification of a website :P |
| 00:05:56 | webguest88 | modreator |
| 00:05:57 | webguest88 | lol |
| 00:05:59 | webguest88 | :) |
| 00:06:06 | webguest88 | moderator |
| 00:06:18 | CIA-5 | New commit by bluebrother (r26339): Fix a warning. |
| 00:06:26 | jhMikeS | bluebrother: thought your were: website % bluebrother; |
| 00:06:28 | Johnny_ | Is there any other way, to check how much mAh my battery got, than unscrew the player iRiver h340 + Rockbox 3.5.1 ? |
| 00:07:23 | webguest88 | oh by the way |
| 00:07:33 | Llorean | Johnny_: Why do you need to find out? |
| 00:07:36 | bluebrother | Johnny_: no, as long as you want to get the sold capacity |
| 00:07:37 | webguest88 | how do i backup my players flash files ? |
| 00:07:48 | bluebrother | webguest88: by copying them :) |
| 00:08:13 | bluebrother | drag and drop from explorer if you like, use a script or fancy gui tool, ... |
| 00:08:16 | Johnny_ | I bought a used one i want to know because the seller told me it it 2200 mAh |
| 00:08:45 | webguest88 | i can do that?..directly from the masss storage mode ? |
| 00:09:14 | bluebrother | I don't see or know of any reason why you shouldn't be able to transfer files from / to UMS devices. |
| 00:10:02 | bluebrother | Rockbox itself exposes the player as UMS device and puts no restrictions on that. Therefore you should be able to do any modifications to the drive you like to. |
| 00:10:15 | Johnny_ | so the only way is to see battery itself right ? |
| 00:10:25 | ssorgatem | Please, can someone kindly commit my catalan language update? :) |
| 00:10:31 | bluebrother | (e200 installation f.e. works like this: it modified some parts of the drive that aren't shown by explorer) |
| 00:12:35 | bluebrother | Johnny_: I wouldn't want to check the capacity at all. The player runs as long as it runs. If you have a, like 1600mAh battery that's completely new you're better than with a 2200mAh battery that's been used frequently for 2 years |
| 00:12:35 | bluebrother | so the printing on the battery really doesn't tell much. Unless you just bought the battery as new. |
| 00:13:00 | pamaury | What should I do to allocate statically a buffer of which address I must provide to the dma ? Is there a special attribute on the as3525(v2), I see that USB_BSS_ATTR is not defined |
| 00:13:04 | pamaury | funman: ^ |
| 00:13:16 | Johnny_ | i c anyway my 100 % battery shows 16 hrs 15 min on 3.5.1 rockbox thats rather ok i think |
| 00:13:18 | funman | pamaury: physical buffer? |
| 00:13:56 | pamaury | Don't know what you mean but yes, I probably needs it's physical address (although I can't tell by just looking at the code) |
| 00:14:00 | webguest88 | hey!..nees some help again.. how do i get off the manu mode |
| 00:14:04 | webguest88 | *need |
| 00:14:25 | funman | pamaury: DMA needs physical addresses because they write to the memory without using the MMU (which use virtual addresses) |
| 00:14:39 | pamaury | I saw a discussion about it lately but I can't remember when it took place |
| 00:14:41 | webguest88 | got it |
| 00:14:51 | bluebrother | Johnny_: the runtime estimation is a runtime estimation. It doesn't need to match with the actual runtime in any way |
| 00:15:07 | funman | in the as3525 the mmu is set up as 'flat mapped' for DRAM : virtual addresses are the same than physical addresses |
| 00:15:09 | pamaury | funman: so my question is: is there a function to compute physical address from virtual one or is there an attribute to ensure both addresses are the same |
| 00:15:14 | pamaury | ah ok |
| 00:15:28 | funman | if you use IRAM you need to tweak things so don't use iram :) |
| 00:15:29 | pamaury | and what about caching ? |
| 00:15:31 | bluebrother | in fact, the runtime estimation is likely to be off if your battery was replaced with a different one or is weared out to some extend due to usage. |
| 00:15:32 | Johnny_ | all right i ll ran battery bench than thank You |
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| 00:16:38 | funman | pamaury: since the DMA don't use the CPU caches you must make sure no part of this buffer are in cache |
| 00:16:51 | pamaury | and how can I do that ? |
| 00:18:08 | funman | use *_dcache_range() from mmu-arm.S/h (look in pcm-as3525.c) or an temporary uncached buffer to read/copy from |
| 00:18:59 | pamaury | ok thanks, I'm not sure I'll manage to make it work right now but at least, this problem will be solved |
| 00:20:01 | funman | if you want to be sure use clean_dcache() before & after transfers |
| 00:21:00 | pamaury | Well, I'm trying to implement the usb reset part, so I'm quite far from transfering data but I need to setup things :) |
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| 00:30:45 | webguest88 | hi |
| 00:31:48 | webguest88 | how do i backup my sansa players firmware ? or any flash files ? in case if anthing goes wrong when i flash rockbox on it |
| 00:32:50 | Kohlrabi | you can download the original firmware from sansa |
| 00:34:08 | webguest88 | ? |
| 00:34:27 | bluebrother | you can't easily backup the firmware. |
| 00:34:58 | bluebrother | if anything goes wrong you can reflash the original firmware. You'll find that at the sandisk website. |
| 00:35:18 | webguest88 | oh ok |
| 00:35:33 | webguest88 | i dont have to backup anything |
| 00:35:44 | webguest88 | coz i had to do that with my psp |
| 00:35:50 | pamaury | funman: what is a prefetch abort error ? |
| 00:36:19 | Torne | pamaury: means it took an abort while fetching the actual instruction |
| 00:36:33 | Torne | pamaury: i.e. the cpu has jumped to an invalid address |
| 00:36:52 | pamaury | huh, how the hell did I get that error |
| 00:36:54 | bluebrother | anything wrong with FS or is it just acting up for me? |
| 00:37:09 | funman | pamaury: which address? |
| 00:37:20 | pamaury | DEADBEEE |
| 00:37:26 | pamaury | sounds strange |
| 00:37:37 | pamaury | nearly deadbeef, isn't something particular with this |
| 00:37:39 | pamaury | ? |
| 00:37:41 | bluebrother | sounds like 0xdeadbeef rounded down to a multiple of 2 |
| 00:38:14 | funman | ah right |
| 00:38:18 | funman | bit 0 is thumb bit |
| 00:38:35 | funman | but afaik we don't use thumb at all, so shouldn't all fetches be aligned on 4 ? Torne ? |
| 00:39:03 | funman | pamaury: did you allocate a large buffer on stack ? |
| 00:39:11 | pamaury | no |
| 00:39:23 | funman | a medium buffer ? |
| 00:39:28 | pamaury | no :) |
| 00:39:34 | funman | a very little tiny buffer ? |
| 00:39:45 | funman | :) |
| 00:39:47 | pamaury | a little one for a string, for debug purpose |
| 00:40:01 | pamaury | if I remove a piece of code, I get a data abort |
| 00:40:04 | Torne | the bottom bit is never 1 in the actual program counter |
| 00:40:10 | funman | rockbox writes 0xdeadbeef in the stack for debug purpose |
| 00:40:13 | Torne | it sets the T bit in CPSR :) |
| 00:40:25 | funman | ok |
| 00:40:27 | Torne | so yeah, you will get deadbeee |
| 00:40:29 | * | bluebrother grumbles on x86 vs x86_64 issues on mac |
| 00:41:02 | pamaury | perhaps a stackoverflow but that seems strange |
| 00:41:11 | pamaury | it's in an interrupt handler |
| 00:41:27 | funman | the irq stack is small |
| 00:41:39 | pamaury | it worked one hour ago |
| 00:41:43 | funman | 1kB |
| 00:42:28 | pamaury | could there be nested usb interrupts ? What would happen ? |
| 00:42:40 | funman | afaiu when you enter the irq handler interrupts are disabled so no |
| 00:43:01 | funman | add panicf() step by step until you don't get your panic |
| 00:43:07 | jhMikeS | pamaury, ARM should disable IRQ before vectoring |
| 00:44:00 | pamaury | grrr, another data abort |
| 00:45:19 | jhMikeS | I don't seem to remember IRQ using more than a small portion of the 1k |
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| 00:46:03 | pamaury | FUCK, now I get an undefined instruction oO |
| 00:46:30 | jhMikeS | DEADDEAC? |
| 00:46:38 | funman | BABEFACE |
| 00:47:33 | pamaury | ahhhh, back to the normal situation (freeze :)) |
| 00:48:40 | jhMikeS | C0EDBABE |
| 00:48:49 | funman | C0FFEE11 |
| 00:49:15 | jhMikeS | FEACFACE |
| 00:49:19 | pamaury | no undef instruction at 000009D4 |
| 00:49:24 | funman | :o |
| 00:49:35 | funman | pamaury: hum that sounds like irq stack |
| 00:50:00 | jhMikeS | munge IRQ stack to see? |
| 00:50:18 | funman | stack goes from 0x5A0 to 0x9A0 |
| 00:50:44 | funman | err |
| 00:50:49 | funman | should be 0x5A0 -> 0x1A0 |
| 00:51:05 | funman | so it's in the unused FIQ stack |
| 00:51:09 | funman | pamaury: paste your diff |
| 00:52:26 | * | jhMikeS suggests trying not to execute the stack :) (helpful?) |
| 00:52:28 | pamaury | the diff is enormous, I'm trying to get back to the point where it didn't crash, to find out the evil instruction |
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| 00:53:48 | pamaury | ok, back to old situation: panic ! Now, I'll try to add code |
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| 01:00:55 | pamaury | there definitetely is something wrong. Something wrong happen when I setup usb interrupt mask. |
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| 01:12:12 | pamaury | Ok, I give up for tonight, there is something weird with interrupts, I'm pretty sure of this, otherwise it wouldn't crash like this |
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| 01:14:42 | CIA-5 | New commit by jethead71 (r26340): Gigabeat S PCM: There's no reason to touch any hardware registers in order to lock out PCM callbacks. |
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| 01:22:58 | CIA-5 | New commit by jethead71 (r26341): Gigabeat S PCM: Sync some comments to changes. |
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| 01:28:59 | ssorgatem | I updated the catalan translation; http://pastie.org/980878 ; if some would be kind enought to commit it I would appreciate it very much :) |
| 01:31:29 | funman | ssorgatem: sure |
| 01:32:25 | jhMikeS | does the init attr thing magically sort of take care of itself? (just add INIT_ATTR) ?? |
| 01:32:32 | CIA-5 | New commit by funman (r26342): sd-as3525v2: Include time spent yielding when figuring timeout in sd_wait_for_tran_state() ... |
| 01:32:35 | CIA-5 | New commit by funman (r26343): fuzev2: lcd_enable and lcd_invert() work fine |
| 01:32:40 | funman | jhMikeS: crt0/app.lds need the magic |
| 01:32:40 | CIA-5 | New commit by funman (r26344): Merge common LCD code between fuzev1 & fuzev2 |
| 01:32:47 | CIA-5 | New commit by funman (r26345): Catalan language update by Adrián Cereto Massagué |
| 01:32:50 | * | jhMikeS didn't want to do any real work :\ |
| 01:34:19 | funman | create a .init section in plugin or codec buffer, copy them to the buffer from crt0.S |
| 01:36:07 | funman | IIUC the copy is at the same location than the stack (before copy), but i'm not sure: the LDS are a bit scary |
| 01:36:16 | jhMikeS | I have a custom .sdmacode section for a blob, which would be nice to get rid of and use a common mechanism, and there's a good deal of stuff that could go in there. (probably an easy convert actually) |
| 01:38:13 | funman | not sure what the red means |
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| 01:38:24 | funman | i see genversion being run (twice, ok) several lines above |
| 01:38:48 | funman | roolku uses a special OS ? |
| 01:39:19 | petur | all reds come from systems of roolku |
| 01:39:56 | funman | perhaps the cat > foo << EOF \n\n\nEOF doesn't work on some systems? |
| 01:41:17 | funman | wasn't there some page for the build system? |
| 01:42:56 | jhMikeS | funman: looks like I just convert the one section to .init in the code and crt0.S and I'm good to go |
| 01:43:14 | funman | it's exactly like iram in fact |
| 01:43:42 | funman | just that you put the section somewhere that'll be reused |
| 01:44:22 | funman | hm FS woes again :/ |
| 01:45:03 | funman | i don't want to lose this: http://pastie.org/981009 almost-working-lcd-invert-on-fuze-but-i-dunno-why |
| 01:45:16 | jhMikeS | funman: I've done that. Just wondering if anything was different. (sdma used the plugin buffer) |
| 01:45:48 | funman | hm ok |
| 01:47:19 | funman | ~2kB reclaimed on as3525v2 : not much |
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| 02:10:33 | S_a_i_n_t | rockboxdev.sh is broken for CygWin apparently. |
| 02:10:42 | S_a_i_n_t | tried to run it three times with the same error. |
| 02:10:44 | S_a_i_n_t | :/ |
| 02:11:18 | S_a_i_n_t | http://pastebin.com/jdMx6Ks2 <−− If anyone knows what this means...go nuts. |
| 02:13:49 | S_a_i_n_t | And if anyone can .tar (etc.) up a working ARM toolchain for me to use in CygWin ( pixelma, Blue_Dude?) I'd *really* appreciate it. |
| 02:14:33 | S_a_i_n_t | Installing git trashed my CygWin install, now I can't recover the toolchain :/ |
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| 02:46:12 | mc2739 | funman: should r26345 be committed to the 3.6 branch also? |
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| 04:39:57 | vaguerant | Is there a general range of how many (good) patches someone needs to submit to be considered for commit access? |
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| 04:47:15 | JdGordon | vaguerant: no, but it also more about making yourself known... being in IRC and active helps alot |
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| 04:48:41 | vaguerant | Not so much myself as csavery, who's been doing a lot of work on PictureFlow; making it not-horrible on monochrome screens, adding a whole WPS-PictureFlow integration mode. |
| 04:48:54 | funman | mc2739: yep |
| 04:49:19 | funman | vaguerant: csavery comes on irc? |
| 04:50:22 | vaguerant | No idea if he does; just figured I'd drop by and ask since he's doing some cool stuff I wouldn't mind seeing committed. |
| 04:50:50 | funman | i guess he should ask Unhelpful about it |
| 04:51:48 | Unhelpful | where is this cool stuff? :) |
| 04:51:57 | vaguerant | On Flyspray. :p |
| 04:52:20 | vaguerant | Nah, he's talked about some of it on the board too, I'll grab you some links. |
| 04:52:32 | funman | mc2739: i used the e200v1 method to implement lcd_flip on fuzev1 |
| 04:52:48 | funman | i guess it should work too and make lcd_window() simpler |
| 04:53:39 | vaguerant | Unhelpful: e.g. Here's his post about the WPS integration for PictureFlow: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=23525.msg166723#msg166723 |
| 04:54:57 | funman | mc2739: http://pastie.org/981195 works? I had to adjust another reg |
| 04:56:04 | vaguerant | Unhelpful: Here about an option to disable reflections in PF, which gives more room for larger album art (also at the end is a mention of a bug I reported which he submitted a patch for): http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=23525.msg167126#msg167126 |
| 04:56:54 | Unhelpful | hrm, surely you could "just" make the album art larger, and less reflection would be rendered at the bottom? |
| 04:57:14 | vaguerant | That's true, but it poses a problem on devices like the Clip series. |
| 04:57:32 | vaguerant | Those have 16px yellow/black at top and 48px blue/black at bottom. |
| 04:57:46 | vaguerant | Zooming in the album art looks /horrible/ when you cross over the yellow/blue barrier. |
| 04:58:04 | vaguerant | Not least because there's a gap between the two sections of the screen. |
| 04:58:55 | funman | someone can test a patch on fuzev2? mine won't turn on/off |
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| 04:59:58 | vaguerant | Unhelpful: Here's a screenshot of PictureFlow just taken from a sim with the covers going over the gap: http://i43.tinypic.com/1h5g6w.jpg |
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| 05:00:49 | funman | it doesn't look that good on clip :) |
| 05:01:57 | vaguerant | No kidding; but csavery's patch adds an option which disables the reflection and glues the covers to the bottom of screen; then you have full control over whether it hits the yellow area through zooming. |
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| 05:02:59 | funman | and the title is taking the top pixels? |
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| 05:03:05 | vaguerant | That's right. |
| 05:03:24 | funman | that'd be nice |
| 05:03:29 | saratoga | did he ever ask kugel about that patch? |
| 05:03:48 | vaguerant | (With csavery's patch; currently setting title to display at top is not respected on small screens due to a bug.) |
| 05:04:24 | vaguerant | Not sure really, he's been by here but not sure if he's specifically spoken to kugel about it. |
| 05:05:40 | funman | saratoga: i found new stuff about the clipv2 noise today, did you see it ? (logs between 13 & 16) |
| 05:05:46 | vaguerant | Roughly looks like this; this is just the result of me doing some ugly hacking of pictureflow.c (I'm no coder) but his patch has the same visual result (note that the screenshot is scaled *2): http://i49.tinypic.com/s5hkye.jpg |
| 05:06:16 | funman | most interesting is that test_codec triggers the noise so the problem is independant of i2sout / DAC |
| 05:06:21 | saratoga | funman: you mean the stuff about it happening when the DAC is off? |
| 05:06:30 | saratoga | ah |
| 05:06:53 | CIA-5 | New commit by jdgordon (r26347): fix %Xl tag... this shuold be useable now |
| 05:06:53 | funman | the noise is constant though, there are no 'peaks' like when the cpu is boosting |
| 05:06:56 | saratoga | test_codec basically uses the screen and IRAM I think? |
| 05:07:02 | funman | yeah |
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| 05:07:21 | funman | screen operations make some noise but switching hold should remove it |
| 05:07:28 | saratoga | well the IRAM is internal to the CPU so i'm not sure how to deal with that |
| 05:07:48 | funman | when i ran test_mem i didn't hear that much noise |
| 05:08:06 | saratoga | did you try it testing IRAM? |
| 05:08:11 | funman | yep |
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| 05:09:37 | saratoga | test_codec and test_mem basically do the same thing, though I guess test_mem probably spends more time stalled waiting on memory while test codec spends more time working out of cache |
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| 05:10:29 | Unhelpful | funman: i had some thoughts about clip. i think that one clip the best we can really get is full-on, full-off, and a few shades around 50%. the rest we can do with spatial dithering |
| 05:13:45 | vaguerant | How many "shades" do you have going right now? |
| 05:14:06 | funman | 256? |
| 05:19:09 | Unhelpful | funman: more like 128 or 129, i think, actually. but because of the speed of the clip display, the ones that aren't near the middle range tend to look pretty awful. even the mid-range you can tell is just flickering if you blink at it some. |
| 05:19:46 | Unhelpful | on LCD some blending is done by the slow display. we get pretty much none of that on the clip. |
| 05:21:10 | funman | perhaps we could reduce the display frequency ? |
| 05:22:03 | funman | look for DISPLAY_CLOCK in lcd-ssd1303.c and s/0x10/0x1f/ will divide display clock freq by 16 |
| 05:25:27 | Unhelpful | funman: that wouldn't help. the issue is that the pixels of the display respond much more quickly than LCD to changes in value. |
| 05:26:59 | CIA-5 | New commit by jdgordon (r26348): dead simple Makefile |
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| 05:32:42 | vaguerant | Right, you don't get the same motion blur on OLED that you get with LCD; that's why people are trying to market OLED TVs as the next big thing. |
| 05:41:33 | * | funman tries some potential power-saver on clips |
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| 05:51:14 | jhMikeS | funam: this init is alright but it has problems with short calls and memory > 32MB (saves 12K but has to put init in middle of the audiobuf)...but, it's been giving me some random thoughts about how to handle IRAM targets with short calls |
| 05:51:27 | jhMikeS | s/funam/funman/ |
| 05:54:04 | funman | what are you thinking about? |
| 05:55:39 | jhMikeS | any way to "export" symbols, sort of treating IRAM and DRAM like separate modules? I'd thinking some longcall stub generation could happen when the calls are accross the boundaries? |
| 05:56:06 | funman | longcalls only when needed? |
| 05:56:12 | jhMikeS | yes |
| 05:57:13 | funman | perhaps you could parse the elf file, but you would need to build 1 elf for iram ? |
| 05:57:51 | jhMikeS | was thinking something like that |
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| 06:02:26 | * | jhMikeS isn't familiar enough with what's available in the tools already and how to exploit it |
| 06:05:20 | * | jhMikeS wonders about parsing the .elf, relocating calls to DRAM from IRAM and calls to IRAM from DRAM and generating the stubs (1 intruction + data it should be) |
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| 06:07:59 | CIA-5 | New commit by funman (r26349): genversion: generate version.c and version.h independantly |
| 06:09:37 | funman | you can build with -mlong-calls and use short-call attribute, but the reverse would be better :/ |
| 06:09:57 | funman | functions with the `long-call' attribute or the `section' |
| 06:09:57 | funman | attribute, and functions that are within the scope of a `#pragma |
| 06:09:57 | funman | long_calls' directive, will always be turned into long calls. |
| 06:11:06 | funman | hm section doesn't force long calls here |
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| 06:14:27 | FlynDice | funman: I can test a fuzev2 patch in a little while if you still need it. |
| 06:15:11 | jhMikeS | funman: we tried the attributes without success |
| 06:15:38 | mc2739 | funman: that works on e200v2 - I also cleaned up lcd_window and lcd_window_blit - http://pastie.org/981266 |
| 06:16:11 | funman | FlynDice: http://pastie.org/981280 |
| 06:17:01 | jhMikeS | if the .elf could be massaged, then you could pass that to the linker, using the .lds as-is |
| 06:17:11 | funman | mc2739: nice, you still need to change the entry mode for video i think |
| 06:17:44 | mc2739 | funman: right, I forgot that |
| 06:18:00 | funman | mc2739: lcd_window() doesn't work for YUV ? |
| 06:18:18 | funman | on fuze the registers are different but i think min / max can be inverted |
| 06:20:57 | FlynDice | funman: What am i testing for? |
| 06:21:11 | funman | FlynDice: 180° rotation |
| 06:21:23 | FlynDice | ok |
| 06:32:09 | Unhelpful | funman: we can't really reliably determine, except at link time, whether long calls are needed or not for any given function call. |
| 06:32:18 | Unhelpful | that's why the interest in EABI etc. :) |
| 06:34:15 | mc2739 | funman: if I use lcd_window for YUV, the display gets flipped and mirrored in mpegplayer |
| 06:34:41 | funman | ok |
| 06:35:00 | FlynDice | funman: Upside down works fine, scrollwheel action is fine, plugins don't seem to like it at all though, even without being upside down |
| 06:35:45 | funman | hm is the display shifted? |
| 06:36:05 | FlynDice | not at all as far as I can tell |
| 06:36:31 | funman | plugins are slow? |
| 06:36:48 | funman | i mostly tried chopper |
| 06:37:23 | FlynDice | no they lock up, every one I've tried so far, and this is rightside up. |
| 06:39:19 | FlynDice | chopper just gave a data abort @ 301539F0 |
| 06:40:16 | funman | hm do they work without the patch ? |
| 06:40:39 | FlynDice | just to doublecheck here rolo'ing the patched firmware will not make a difference right? |
| 06:40:48 | funman | shouldn't |
| 06:40:55 | FlynDice | yes, they work fine with svn |
| 06:41:16 | funman | my mind is blown |
| 06:43:09 | funman | there should be no difference if you boot without 180° & don't let the screen turn off/on |
| 06:43:30 | FlynDice | It seems to be a problem with all plugins |
| 06:44:46 | FlynDice | & from what I can tell so far only plugins |
| 06:47:28 | funman | hm no i think rolo will not work correctly |
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| 06:48:31 | funman | hm it should be ok: HAVE_CPUCACHE_INVALIDATE is defined but i don't know where ^^ |
| 06:48:53 | funman | ah, mmu-arm.h |
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| 06:49:16 | FlynDice | well I'll try it in .rockbox too |
| 06:54:10 | FlynDice | same results in .rockbox |
| 06:55:30 | funman | I guess I'll wait for my fuzev2 to discharge |
| 06:55:51 | FlynDice | time for bed, happy hacking... good luck w/the fuze |
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| 06:59:37 | mc2739 | funman: http://pastie.org/981266 updated - did I miss anyhing else? |
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| 07:00:55 | funman | still video entrty mode ;) |
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| 07:02:02 | funman | hmm that's teh same diff? |
| 07:02:22 | jhMikeS | hmmm...maybe arm-elf-objcopy would be helpful ?? |
| 07:03:06 | jhMikeS | (for what I was speaking of earlier) |
| 07:03:23 | funman | yeah, objcopy doesn't help with lcd :P |
| 07:03:30 | jhMikeS | hehe |
| 07:03:53 | funman | sed -i s/undocumentedregister// lcd-fuze* |
| 07:04:27 | funman | jhMikeS: that sounds like a job for gcc |
| 07:06:55 | funman | Unhelpful: how does EABI affect short/long calls? |
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| 07:10:39 | jhMikeS | funman: gcc doesn't do the job and isn't section-aware like that (it hasn't proven to be straightforward at all or else I'm pretty sure it would be done by now) |
| 07:11:48 | rajendrau | I am not able to view video files with (.mpg) copied to sansa e260 media player. I tried by copying video to videos folder, music folder and also .rockbox folder |
| 07:12:46 | jhMikeS | rajendrau: you need to be able to view hidden files. you also can put the files in any folder. |
| 07:12:56 | Unhelpful | funman: EABI causes all calls to be short calls. if a short call is out of range at link time, a long jump to the proper address is inserted near it, and the short call is redirected there. |
| 07:12:57 | Unhelpful | this is a slight speed cost *when* long calls would have happened, but overall a fairly large code size win. |
| 07:13:04 | funman | set 'show files' settings to 'all' |
| 07:13:45 | funman | hm ok |
| 07:13:46 | jhMikeS | Unhelpful: it'll do stubbing when needed? per-instance? |
| 07:14:06 | funman | what prevents us from using eabi then, only doom ? |
| 07:15:30 | CIA-5 | New commit by mc2739 (r26350): Simplify lcd_set_flip, lcd_window, and lcd_window_blit ... |
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| 07:17:13 | funman | mc2739: mpegplayer still works ?? |
| 07:17:57 | Unhelpful | jhMikeS: *essentially* per target address - if there are a bunch of callers in range of the same stub they'll all share it. |
| 07:17:57 | mc2739 | funman: yes |
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| 07:20:16 | Unhelpful | i believe the space savings amounts to something like 60KB on e200, and that's pretty typical for other ARM targets currently using -mlong-calls |
| 07:23:44 | funman | ah right vertical filling is used in video and normal display; on fuze it's only for video |
| 07:23:58 | funman | fuze / other landscape displays |
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| 07:28:36 | * | jhMikeS isn't yet familiar with eabi. it's a tool or an option? |
| 07:29:03 | funman | jhMikeS: you must build a new gcc |
| 07:29:22 | funman | rockboxdev.sh will give you a arm-elf-eabi-* toolchain and you can use it with ./configure −−eabi |
| 07:29:50 | jhMikeS | hmm...why is doom an issue with that? |
| 07:30:13 | funman | i believe it uses misfeatures of the old abi |
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| 07:32:21 | funman | FS #11093 Doom hardlocks on Nano2G when compiled with eabi |
| 07:33:13 | jhMikeS | I'd say that's reason to fix doom |
| 07:33:55 | Llorean | We could always disable Doom after the release, move to EABI, and hope someone files a patch. :) |
| 07:34:49 | jhMikeS | what is the real issue? what part of it has the problem? |
| 07:35:08 | funman | i think Torne or kugel will know |
| 07:37:01 | funman | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14064.msg166691#msg166691 |
| 07:37:02 | jhMikeS | well, good to know something already does |
| 07:37:26 | jhMikeS | ...do what I had in mind |
| 07:39:12 | funman | i was thinking about thumb |
| 07:39:41 | jhMikeS | yeah, that too |
| 07:39:51 | funman | -> replace CC by a script which will run cpp on each file, grep for inline asm, and build with -mthumb if there is none |
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| 07:42:08 | jhMikeS | inline asm can't be assembled as thumb? |
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| 07:42:41 | funman | inline thumb asm yes |
| 07:43:12 | funman | if there is a single 32 bits instruction in a .c file the whole thing must be built as 32 bits code |
| 07:43:30 | funman | (e.g., disable_irq()) |
| 07:43:32 | jhMikeS | true, true |
| 07:44:59 | funman | gigabeats can do thumb2? |
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| 07:48:22 | jhMikeS | it has some v6 instructions in common with ARM code |
| 07:48:53 | Unhelpful | jhMikeS: EABI specifies that enums shall be the smallest size sufficient to hold all enumerated values. |
| 07:49:39 | Unhelpful | this screws up anything that points at enums with int*, and causes warnings and potential runtime errors for code that assigns or compares arbitrary integer values to enums. |
| 07:51:20 | jhMikeS | enums under this definition means what? (sounds different than enum { ... }; ) |
| 07:53:24 | Unhelpful | no, it means precisely that. :) |
| 07:53:39 | jhMikeS | ok. :) |
| 07:54:55 | Unhelpful | but the storage type for enum values is no longer int under eabi, but the smallest type which will hold all values... so your enum with values 1,2,3,4 will be stored as an unsigned char. if you try to compare a signed value to it, you will get a warning (and probably unexpected runtime behavior). |
| 07:55:25 | jhMikeS | ah, smallest as in "smallest datatype" |
| 07:55:27 | Unhelpful | if you try to point at it with int* then dereferencing that pointer will at *best* overwrite some adjacent memory |
| 07:56:49 | jhMikeS | yeah, well, toss a nice something = INT_MAX at the end of them just to tide it over |
| 07:58:00 | Unhelpful | or do the right thing, and don't assume that enums are equivalent to int? :) |
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| 08:01:18 | jhMikeS | "right" things can come in steps of course, and if it's just one plugin... |
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| 08:01:55 | jhMikeS | take the time to be super-correct later, get it working now |
| 08:02:48 | Unhelpful | also that will cause warnings if the enum is used in a switch statement :) |
| 08:03:14 | jhMikeS | you mean as without a "default"? |
| 08:04:26 | Unhelpful | a default *should* clear the warning, but imo it's better to write code that uses pointers of the appropriate type, and that doesn't stuff magic flag values into enum variables that are *not* among the enumerated values. |
| 08:05:39 | jhMikeS | or compile doom without eabi...is there something with the calling conventions? |
| 08:07:57 | Unhelpful | there are a number of other little changes that make that not work, also there will be warnings on link for eabi and non-eabi objects. |
| 08:08:52 | Unhelpful | the best band-aid IMO, if you don't want to do a proper fix, is to replace the offending variables with ints, and use the enum types as a shorthand for specifying constants. |
| 08:09:26 | jhMikeS | looks like a quite a project after looking closer :\ |
| 08:10:29 | Unhelpful | and in any case if you ever mean to point to it, you don't really have a choice, you have to either make the variable an int, or use a pointer to the appropriate enum type. settings that use enums have to be stored as ints because of this - the first few things we had to fix in core to make EABI builds load without crashing mostly had to do w/ int pointers for settings to enum global variables. |
| 08:10:47 | * | jhMikeS runs rockboxdev.sh to update get a better idea. things were quite stale but I extended the vmware image to 4GB |
| 08:13:57 | jhMikeS | the rockbox source tree has gained some heft, that's for sure. having two, there wasn't enough room to work and build a sim |
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| 08:15:42 | * | Unhelpful loves git for that :) |
| 08:17:17 | jhMikeS | that works with SVN? maybe I should switch over then |
| 08:19:48 | * | jhMikeS keeps hearing praises being sung but keeps procrastinating as usual |
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| 09:58:55 | S_a_i_n_t | Is whoever maintains rockboxdev.sh here? |
| 09:59:08 | S_a_i_n_t | If so, could you please look at this: http://filebin.ca/jhxepc/rockboxdev.shoutput.txt |
| 09:59:23 | S_a_i_n_t | It keeps failing :/ |
| 09:59:36 | S_a_i_n_t | Always in the same spot. |
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| 10:00:23 | Zagor | ahhh, cygwin! |
| 10:00:34 | S_a_i_n_t | Hm? |
| 10:00:58 | Zagor | it gives me a rash :) |
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| 10:01:51 | Zagor | and I also have too little knowledge of it to say why it breaks your gcc build |
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| 10:02:31 | S_a_i_n_t | Dammit. Can you see where it's failing? All that output is foreign to me. |
| 10:02:59 | S_a_i_n_t | All I know is that it's failing in the same spot each time. |
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| 10:03:45 | Zagor | it's failing on host-cygwin.c |
| 10:03:54 | Zagor | error: storage size of `mode_size' isn't known |
| 10:04:14 | Zagor | probably due to "insn-modes.h: No such file or directory" |
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| 10:04:20 | Kevone | hey |
| 10:04:29 | Kevone | anyone awake? |
| 10:04:48 | S_a_i_n_t | plenty of people, better to just ask your question |
| 10:05:12 | Kevone | I was just wondering whats happening with the connection of the ipod nano 2nd generation |
| 10:05:26 | S_a_i_n_t | you'll need to be more specific. |
| 10:05:37 | S_a_i_n_t | But, I have that target so can probably help. |
| 10:06:16 | Kevone | is the usb port drivers getting developed |
| 10:06:23 | S_a_i_n_t | Nope. |
| 10:06:29 | S_a_i_n_t | which OS do you have? |
| 10:06:34 | Kevone | Windows 7 |
| 10:06:36 | S_a_i_n_t | windows, *nix etc. |
| 10:07:55 | Kevone | I was look at the chart http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/TargetStatus#footnote1 and the current status is serious problem |
| 10:08:14 | Kevone | for the ipod 2gen |
| 10:09:14 | S_a_i_n_t | Well, personally I don;t have any problems with it. Previously the HID enumeration caused some problems...but that has been disabled on the Nano2g |
| 10:09:21 | S_a_i_n_t | what revision is your build? |
| 10:10:12 | Kevone | are u talking about Rockbox? |
| 10:10:21 | Kevone | 3.5.1 |
| 10:10:21 | S_a_i_n_t | yes. |
| 10:10:43 | S_a_i_n_t | Hmmm, well...I'd suggest using a current build. |
| 10:10:56 | S_a_i_n_t | And if that doesn't work, then try forcing disk mode. |
| 10:11:24 | S_a_i_n_t | (restart the iPod using menu+select, then press select+play immediately) |
| 10:11:49 | S_a_i_n_t | That will force disk mode, then the DAP should mount. |
| 10:11:59 | Kevone | ok |
| 10:12:05 | ranma | S_a_i_n_t: That looks like http://www.mail-archive.com/gcc@gcc.gnu.org/msg09094.html (googled for "insn-modes.h: No such file or directory") |
| 10:12:14 | Kevone | should it be connected to the computer |
| 10:12:40 | S_a_i_n_t | No, not while forcing it into disk mode. |
| 10:13:01 | S_a_i_n_t | You can also just use hold to boot into the Apple FW if it's easier for you. |
| 10:13:26 | S_a_i_n_t | (turn the player on, then flip the hold switch to on) |
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| 10:13:56 | S_a_i_n_t | (or turn the player off, flip the hold switch on, then plug in the USB cable...it will start in the Apple FW) |
| 10:15:42 | S_a_i_n_t | ranma: It does seem like the same problem...yes. Pity there is no solution there :\ |
| 10:15:43 | Kevone | i got it into disk mode but all that shows up is a check mark and "ok to disconnect" |
| 10:16:04 | S_a_i_n_t | Kevone: Yes, that is correct. |
| 10:16:08 | S_a_i_n_t | Is it plugged in? |
| 10:16:10 | Kevone | ok |
| 10:16:16 | Kevone | no |
| 10:16:31 | S_a_i_n_t | Sweet, plug it into the PC and it should mount. |
| 10:17:07 | ranma | S_a_i_n_t: Well, it does say that it only happens with a parallel make |
| 10:17:18 | Kevone | ok, now disconnect |
| 10:17:44 | S_a_i_n_t | I have no idea whi it isn't mounting under Rockbox...but the Nano2g has been known to have some problems mounting to some OSes |
| 10:17:58 | S_a_i_n_t | *why |
| 10:18:48 | S_a_i_n_t | Kevone: To get back into Rockbox, just "hard reset" the player. (hold menu+select for ~5-10 seconds) |
| 10:19:45 | Kevone | ok thanks for the help, one more question. Do u know what happened to the ArchosUnlock.exe |
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| 10:20:13 | kugel | Unhelpful: did you try gcc 4.4.4 already? |
| 10:20:13 | S_a_i_n_t | No, I don't sorry. I'm unfamiliar with the Archos targets. |
| 10:20:26 | S_a_i_n_t | I guess you could just try googling the filename. |
| 10:20:32 | Kevone | Its a program that unlocks a masterpassword for a hdd through the reboot |
| 10:21:52 | Kevone | i can't find the link anywhere and thats where i ran into rockbox. I was trying to find a software that would which was on this website but the download link isn't valid :( |
| 10:22:36 | kugel | jhMikeS: eabi is the way to go, it's just that nobody has nobody has bothered to fix doom yet |
| 10:22:45 | S_a_i_n_t | Oh, I see. Sorry, I don't have any Archos targets...and have never heard of that application. |
| 10:24:09 | Llorean | JdGordon: Why would you clone the theme site? Doesn't it already support themes that only work on release or current but not both? |
| 10:24:16 | wodz | I found some interesting pdf (public one) which treats about li-ion/lipo battery charging scheme and how different parameters affect available capacity and battery lifetime. This topic comes back from time to time so maybe it would be good to store this pdf someware and setup small wiki page pointing to this file? |
| 10:24:26 | kugel | jhMikeS: in doom, there's at least one mis-use of enums, the settings array. but I still got a crash later after fixing that |
| 10:25:13 | Kevone | i have to reinstall rockbox on to my ipod cz its had crashed and needs to be restored |
| 10:25:26 | Kevone | not a problem since i can back everything up |
| 10:26:09 | S_a_i_n_t | Kevone: I reccommend using a current or daily build. |
| 10:26:12 | ranma | wodz: See also: http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-12.htm |
| 10:27:03 | S_a_i_n_t | I use current builds on my Nano2Gs (all my targets actually) and it seems to be a lot more stable than 3.5/3.5.1 |
| 10:27:11 | wodz | ranma: I am quite familiar with this topic as I work on university with new types of li batteries :-) |
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| 10:28:05 | ranma | wodz: Ok :) |
| 10:28:58 | ranma | I just thought I'd mention it since its the most comprehensive explanation of various charging-related issues I know :) |
| 10:30:06 | wodz | ranma: try this http://www.eetasia.com/STATIC/PDF/200806/EEOL_2008JUN16_POW_TA_01.pdf?SOURCES=DOWNLOAD |
| 10:31:27 | Kevone | thats some intresting stuff about the li-ion battery |
| 10:31:35 | Kevone | interesting |
| 10:32:20 | wodz | the most comprehensive knowledge source I have is "Handbook of batteries" but this is 100+ pages of paper book |
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| 10:37:41 | Kevone | is the handbook in ebooks? lol |
| 10:37:50 | S_a_i_n_t | Nope. |
| 10:38:15 | S_a_i_n_t | Nano2G Manual: http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-ipodnano2g/rockbox-build.html |
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| 11:02:53 | wodz | hmm I am wondering would it look nicer to have curve like plot instead of bar like plot in view_battery()? it will be trivial change lcd_vline -> lcd_drawpixel |
| 11:04:51 | S_a_i_n_t | wodz: IMO, that would look nicer. |
| 11:05:13 | S_a_i_n_t | Kinda irrelevant, but it'd look a bit better ;) |
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| 11:06:20 | wodz | when my charging battery_bench will finish I'll fiddle with this a bit |
| 11:06:33 | S_a_i_n_t | cool. |
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| 13:10:04 | wodz | S_a_i_n_t: could You try this: http://pastebin.com/BzPDReey and tell if that is nicer to You? |
| 13:13:01 | S_a_i_n_t | wodz: I'm terribly sorry, but I don't actually have a build environment set up at the moment. Installing git trashed my CygWin installation somehow and I am still in the process of setting up a new environment. If you can, you could just upload a screenshot of the battery screen and I could give you an opinion of how it looks. |
| 13:14:04 | wodz | ok |
| 13:14:50 | wodz | anyway now I see my patch has some problem with scaling |
| 13:15:54 | S_a_i_n_t | I definitely like the idea, I'm almost positive that it will look better if you do it correctly. |
| 13:16:40 | wodz | hmm it is ok |
| 13:16:55 | wodz | I'll try to do screenshot or smth |
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| 13:29:45 | wodz | S_a_i_n_t: http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/2459/dscn3549a.jpg |
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| 13:39:00 | S_a_i_n_t | wodz: Yes, in my opinion that looks a *lot* better. Great job \o/ |
| 13:39:20 | S_a_i_n_t | what DAP is that by the way? |
| 13:39:39 | wodz | mini 1G |
| 13:40:06 | CIA-5 | New commit by mc2739 (r26352): Catalan language update by Adrián Cereto Massagué |
| 13:40:35 | S_a_i_n_t | Aha...anyway, yep. I think that looks very nice. |
| 13:45:21 | wodz | ok I'll put this patch on FS (as it comes back to life I think) |
| 13:50:31 | wodz | here we go: FS #11324 |
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| 13:59:17 | wodz | rockbox is taking more than 2x higher current than OF on HD200. |
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| 14:03:36 | S_a_i_n_t | wodz: Oh...cool. Is the tracker back up? |
| 14:03:46 | wodz | yep |
| 14:05:43 | S_a_i_n_t | Awesome. |
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| 14:06:24 | Topic | "3.6 now branched | Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines | Please direct offtopic/social chat to #rockbox-community | This channel is logged at http://www.rockbox.org/irc | DevCon2010 will be from June 4th to 6th in Ghent, http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/DevConEuro2010" by Zagor (bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) |
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| 14:19:28 | CIA-5 | New commit by mc2739 (r26353): Simplify lcd invert |
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| 15:15:08 | Peter93 | Hello! What do you think about emulating a USB-CDdrive like U3 Sticks do? |
| 15:15:55 | gevaerts | Being able to have a plugin that does MSC with the multimedia extensions seems like a nice idea, yes |
| 15:16:54 | gevaerts | It could be in the core too of course, but I like the idea of selecting an iso file, pick "Open with", and select the USB plugin |
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| 15:17:18 | gevaerts | The only problem there is of course that today USB can't really be done from plugins :) |
| 15:18:45 | Peter93 | Realy cool is: I can boot from the CD-Drive of my U3 Stick... |
| 15:19:09 | gevaerts | Yes, that's one of the reasons to have this |
| 15:19:26 | * | gevaerts hasn't ever used U3, so he doesn't know how exactly those work |
| 15:19:27 | epicfailguy | wow thats awesome i never heard of that. |
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| 15:19:37 | * | Bagder doesn't get it |
| 15:19:47 | epicfailguy | thatd be perfect for my netbook. |
| 15:19:51 | Bagder | so there's an iso on the storage, or how is it a CD? |
| 15:19:53 | Peter93 | it is! |
| 15:19:54 | Torne | Bagder: Windows won't autorun stuff on a USB hard drive, but it will autorun stuff from a USB CDrom drive |
| 15:20:00 | Bagder | oh |
| 15:20:04 | Torne | the U3 comes up as two usb devices, one of each |
| 15:20:07 | Peter93 | you burn the iso on it |
| 15:20:07 | gevaerts | Bagder: yes, in the basic version |
| 15:20:21 | Torne | you can replace the image the cdrom half exposes. |
| 15:20:27 | gevaerts | The advanced version (in my mind) will also export playlists as audio CDs :) |
| 15:20:32 | Torne | haha |
| 15:20:43 | Torne | Peter93: You shouldn't, generally, need to be a CD drive to actually boot a computer |
| 15:20:55 | Torne | Only the most ancient computers can't boot from regular USB MSC devices |
| 15:21:01 | Peter93 | but its much easier |
| 15:21:06 | Bagder | I thought most computers willingly booted from usb or whatever these days |
| 15:21:08 | Torne | it is? |
| 15:21:14 | epicfailguy | modern computers do |
| 15:21:15 | Torne | i find it much easier to boot from USB MSC than from CD :) |
| 15:21:18 | gevaerts | Torne: you don't, no. You do however need to play with bootsectors otherwise, which you might not want to do on e.g. a gigabeat S |
| 15:21:26 | CIA-5 | New commit by Blue_Dude (r26354): Voice buffer can be much, much smaller. Code cleanup, logf fix |
| 15:21:28 | S_a_i_n_t | depends on ones idea of easier I guess. :/ |
| 15:21:44 | Torne | gevaerts: Yah, but there's a better fix for that: make our mass storage driver able to export any old image file ;) |
| 15:21:57 | Torne | like the linux g_filestorage drive can |
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| 15:22:19 | gevaerts | Torne: sure, that's the start. Doing more CD like stuff shouldn't be too hard though, and it might have some advantages |
| 15:22:22 | Torne | Peter93: anyway, yes, it could be done if somoene did it |
| 15:22:36 | Torne | but at the moment our USB architecture doesn't make it particularly easy |
| 15:22:39 | Peter93 | ok would be cool |
| 15:23:56 | Blue_Dude | S_a_i_n_t: Still having Cygwin problems? |
| 15:24:08 | Torne | i expect exporting an image would be quite easy/small and could be done within the current usb msc driver |
| 15:24:20 | Torne | i'm not sure what it takes to convince the host that you are a CDROM instead of a generic disk |
| 15:24:26 | gevaerts | Actually, the MMC commands shouldn't be too complicated to add (just tedious work), and I suspect that a file-backed storage driver (which would then only be used by the usb drivers) might be reasonably easy |
| 15:24:47 | Torne | gevaerts: a loopback msc driver would be awesome actually |
| 15:25:00 | Torne | you could stuff a whole bunch of boot images on your player and select one to use whenever needed :) |
| 15:25:06 | gevaerts | Maybe if I feel bored during the weekend :) |
| 15:25:30 | S_a_i_n_t | Blue_Dude: Not sure yet, I'm re-installing again from scratch...It appears as though something in gcc went bork-bork :/ |
| 15:25:47 | Torne | gevaerts: i guess we could do loopback in general through the storage interface :) |
| 15:25:57 | gevaerts | yes, that's my preferred way |
| 15:26:10 | Torne | is there a particularly sensible use for actually being able to mount loopback images on the device? |
| 15:26:23 | Torne | i guess you'd have to enable multidrive everywhere for that to work |
| 15:26:26 | S_a_i_n_t | I thought that rockboxdev.sh was the culprit (and it still might be), but now I'm starting to think the install went badly. |
| 15:26:36 | S_a_i_n_t | I'm eliminating things one by one. |
| 15:26:40 | Torne | since most players currently only allow one storage device |
| 15:26:50 | gevaerts | well, not if we only support FAT I guess. If we add iso9660, you could mount isos |
| 15:27:02 | gevaerts | And thise might have dvd video on them |
| 15:27:10 | Torne | Hmmm |
| 15:27:14 | Torne | maybe, i guess |
| 15:27:17 | Torne | VCD images :) |
| 15:27:24 | gevaerts | right :) |
| 15:27:47 | Torne | that just reopens the filesystem nodo, though, no? :) |
| 15:28:13 | Blue_Dude | S_a_i_n_t: I did a fresh install a week or two ago and so far it's behaving. I'm mostly doing sim builds though. |
| 15:28:23 | gevaerts | Sure, but we have devcon coming up to talk about that |
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| 16:37:10 | funman | no write at all ? |
| 16:37:41 | FlynDice | well uSD writes I mean |
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| 16:37:53 | FlynDice | I can't copy or delete |
| 16:39:06 | FlynDice | I went back to r 26287 and it works and I'll start bisecting |
| 16:39:41 | FlynDice | It may be awhile though I'm in & out here for a bit |
| 16:39:45 | funman | is it 26291 ? |
| 16:39:54 | funman | ok :o |
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| 16:40:24 | Luca_S | FlynDice: same for me, fuzev2 |
| 16:40:30 | funman | just deleted from transcend class 4 on fuzev1/r26319M (M is probably lcd) |
| 16:40:33 | Luca_S | panic: wait for tran state failed (PRG) 1 |
| 16:40:41 | Luca_S | while copying a file from uSD to uSD |
| 16:41:01 | funman | Luca_S: after r26342 ? |
| 16:41:13 | Luca_S | class 6 transcend 8gb |
| 16:41:32 | * | funman built rockbox with -mthumb |
| 16:41:42 | funman | it's actually bigger :-) |
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| 16:42:45 | funman | and shows the logo but doesn't get to the menu |
| 16:43:16 | Luca_S | r26351 |
| 16:43:39 | funman | try incraesing the timeout in sd_wait_for_tran_state() |
| 16:43:47 | funman | something insane like 30*HZ |
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| 16:57:44 | mc2739 | FlynDice: my class 2 card works on latest svn in my e200v2 |
| 16:59:15 | FlynDice | mc2739: Yes, I've got one of those class 6 transcends that were giving us trouble before. The sandisks seem pretty bulletproof. |
| 16:59:58 | funman | hm my libgcc doesn't support interworking |
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| 17:00:39 | FlynDice | Luca_S: funman: My transcend class 6 works ok in fuzev2 with svn |
| 17:02:10 | * | FlynDice has 4 Sansas out swapping 1 SD card like a madman.... |
| 17:02:39 | Luca_S | my uSD showed itself as being picky some time ago, but the OF handles it fine |
| 17:02:58 | Luca_S | now compiling after getting a clean tree... |
| 17:03:48 | bluebrother | bieber: I looked into that QAbstractItemModel thing earlier today. Figured that data() doesn't return a string, so the displayed table is empty. If I simply make it return a fixed string I get a 2x2 table. Interestingly this worked on the Mac but not on Linux, but I haven't found if I simply did a stupid mistake here. |
| 17:08:08 | CIA-5 | New commit by mc2739 (r26355): Update of Czech language ... |
| 17:08:13 | funman | I see "MULTILIB_OPTIONS += mno-thumb-interwork/mthumb-interwork" is added by our gcc 4.0.3 patch |
| 17:10:30 | | Part Zagor |
| 17:10:55 | CIA-5 | New commit by mc2739 (r26356): Update of Czech language ... |
| 17:14:50 | funman | yahoo it runs (but codecs crash) |
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| 17:16:38 | funman | between 1 & 2% of size reduction, but i think i miss a lot of files |
| 17:16:45 | Luca_S | funman: same crash even using 30HZ |
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| 17:17:31 | funman | greylib worsk too |
| 17:17:33 | funman | Luca_S: ok |
| 17:19:01 | Luca_S | also I noticed that when waiting, the backlight went off. I could turn it on by clicking a button, but not by moving the wheel - and buttonlight wasn't affected by wheel movement too |
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| 17:31:17 | CIA-5 | New commit by mc2739 (r26357): Updated Turkish translation ... |
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| 17:34:01 | CIA-5 | New commit by mc2739 (r26358): Updated Turkish translation ... |
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| 17:38:33 | saratoga | http://www.true-audio.com/TTA_Lossless_Audio_Codec_-_Hardware_Support |
| 17:38:57 | saratoga | the author has an optimized version of the encoder that he thinks should be real time on ARM |
| 17:39:04 | saratoga | are we interested in getting more encoders? |
| 17:39:12 | saratoga | i assume yes but i've never even looked at them |
| 17:42:04 | CIA-5 | New commit by mc2739 (r26359): Update Brazilian Portuguese Translation ... |
| 17:44:32 | CIA-5 | New commit by mc2739 (r26360): Update Brazilian Portuguese Translation ... |
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| 17:49:21 | Rob2222 | Phew, im trying to flash a bootloader-patched FW to my FuzeV2 but after disconnecting it just does not start the firmware upgrade process. Filename is the right. Any hints? |
| 17:50:00 | FlynDice | Luca_S: Can you try this patch for fuzev2 with your card. I think it should still apply cleanly: http://pastie.org/973066 |
| 17:50:44 | Rob2222 | hmm, i have no compile chain set up atm |
| 17:51:04 | Rob2222 | i just tried the default BL-patch from the HP. |
| 17:51:19 | FlynDice | Rob2222: What is the filename. Look closely before you say |
| 17:51:34 | Rob2222 | fuzpa.bin (checked 5 times |
| 17:51:49 | Rob2222 | i flashed original fuze02.03.33 before, that worked |
| 17:51:55 | Rob2222 | now trying to flash the patched |
| 17:52:30 | Rob2222 | btw, as i was trying to flash the original fuzpa.dat without clpp_data.dat it wont upgrade, too |
| 17:52:45 | Rob2222 | do i have to use the original clpp_data.dat with the patched fuzpa.dat? |
| 17:53:06 | FlynDice | should be a .bin extension... |
| 17:53:47 | funman | clpp_data.dat is a promotional mp3 |
| 17:53:59 | Rob2222 | typing error, ist a bin |
| 17:54:53 | FlynDice | fuzpa.bin seems correct, where did you copy it to? |
| 17:54:58 | Rob2222 | root |
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| 17:55:38 | Rob2222 | i just trying again with the original fuzpa.bin, thats working (2nd time) |
| 17:55:48 | FlynDice | can you still see it there with your file browser? |
| 17:55:57 | Rob2222 | so it looks he doesnt like ma patched fuzpa.bin |
| 17:56:03 | Rob2222 | yes |
| 17:57:23 | FlynDice | what happened when you copied the OF fuzpa.bin to your device? |
| 17:57:40 | Rob2222 | its getting flashed and removed |
| 17:58:25 | FlynDice | so it did the firmware update with that filename correct? |
| 17:58:45 | Rob2222 | yes |
| 17:58:50 | Rob2222 | btw im using newer mkamsboot.exe version from foums thread (r26289M-100525) |
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| 17:59:09 | Luca_S | FlynDice: compiling now. |
| 17:59:19 | FlynDice | Luca_S: thx |
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| 18:00:38 | Rob2222 | hmm |
| 18:00:38 | FlynDice | Rob2222: and you compiled that yourself or downloaded from somewhere? |
| 18:01:17 | Rob2222 | downloaded here: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14064.msg167356#msg167356 |
| 18:01:33 | Rob2222 | cause wiki information: Fuzev2: mkamsboot 1.2 doesn't work on some devices (always boot to OF) : use SVN. |
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| 18:01:53 | Rob2222 | but well in my case it doesnt even flash it |
| 18:02:40 | funman | you can also wait next release of RockboxUtility |
| 18:04:24 | FlynDice | Rob2222: So the mkamsboot from the wiki did not work for you or you just haven't tried it? |
| 18:04:31 | Rob2222 | trying atm |
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| 18:06:36 | Rob2222 | no wiki version doesnt flash, too |
| 18:06:37 | Rob2222 | :( |
| 18:07:12 | FlynDice | can you pastbin your output from mkamsboot? |
| 18:07:48 | Rob2222 | the ptached firmware file? pastebin.com? |
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| 18:08:44 | FlynDice | no, just the text output from the console you used to run mkamsboot |
| 18:08:58 | Rob2222 | to the channel here? |
| 18:09:34 | Rob2222 | 16 lines |
| 18:09:36 | Rob2222 | it are |
| 18:09:45 | FlynDice | no, go to http://pastie.org/ |
| 18:10:09 | Rob2222 | http://pastie.org/981998 |
| 18:10:17 | FlynDice | and paste your output in there, it will give you a link to then copy back here ;) |
| 18:11:07 | Rob2222 | looks good imho |
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| 18:12:49 | mc2739 | Rob2222: that does not look like the mkamsboot from the wiki |
| 18:12:57 | FlynDice | so you renamed output.bin to fuzpa.bin and copied it to your device and upon disconnecting the firmware update fails to happen correct? |
| 18:13:10 | Rob2222 | yeah 100% |
| 18:13:23 | Rob2222 | mc2739: i tried that one from wiki, too |
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| 18:15:01 | FlynDice | Rob2222: and you are in msc not mtp or auto mode for USB correct? |
| 18:15:08 | Rob2222 | yes |
| 18:15:16 | Rob2222 | unfortunately |
| 18:15:22 | Rob2222 | i have no idea whats wrong |
| 18:15:37 | FlynDice | well, me neither.... sorry |
| 18:15:45 | Rob2222 | i rockboxed my new clip+, 30 mins ago without problems |
| 18:16:01 | Rob2222 | yeah, im writing a post in the forum, atm |
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| 18:17:36 | Luca_S | FlynDice: with your patch, the player froze. No more panic, the scrolling indicator stopped at about 20%, the buttonlight is on and doesn't go off. |
| 18:17:57 | Luca_S | reading from the uSD works fine, just writing froze. |
| 18:22:39 | Rob2222 | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14064.msg167467#msg167467 |
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| 18:24:44 | Serathas | is rockbox compatible with my 120 gig's ipod classic? |
| 18:25:10 | Serathas | the black model |
| 18:25:29 | Luca_S | gotta go now, I'll read the logs when I come back from a trip - probably only on monday. keep rockboxing :) |
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| 18:25:39 | Rob2222 | afaik the newes ipod model that can run RB is the 80GB video |
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| 18:27:19 | FlynDice | Rob2222: Sorry, didn't mean to abandon you with that, small crisis in the real world. I'm going to update myself now and see what i get. |
| 18:27:45 | Rob2222 | FlynDice: no problem, just posted it as complete thing |
| 18:28:13 | Rob2222 | i think i will get a reply in the forum, sooner or later ;) |
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| 18:50:41 | gevaerts | I need a file setting and an on/off setting, which are to be passed on to firmware/. What do I need to do? |
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| 19:00:29 | bertrik | hm, my c200v2's screen goes black just after booting |
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| 19:05:20 | funman | bertrik: what was the last revision working ? |
| 19:11:12 | bertrik | I don't know, but it was at least several months old |
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| 19:12:59 | bertrik | it has files on it from april 6th, so that should help me bisect it I guess |
| 19:15:37 | bertrik | is there a simple way to know which svn revision was current on a specific date? |
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| 19:16:36 | funman | git log, /Apr 6 |
| 19:17:03 | funman | r25499 is from april 6 and is related to c200v2 |
| 19:17:16 | bertrik | thanks |
| 19:25:33 | FlynDice | Rob2222: ping |
| 19:26:13 | Rob2222 | pong |
| 19:26:44 | Rob2222 | FlynDice : ill give up with my fuze for noe |
| 19:26:47 | Rob2222 | now |
| 19:26:48 | Rob2222 | :( |
| 19:26:59 | Rob2222 | im not the only one with that problem |
| 19:27:12 | FlynDice | Rob2222: See my forum post |
| 19:27:25 | Rob2222 | ok |
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| 19:28:06 | Rob2222 | already tried |
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| 19:28:16 | Rob2222 | i come back to .31 |
| 19:28:20 | FlynDice | If you can flash V02.03.31 back onto your player I think the firmware update routine will work |
| 19:28:24 | Rob2222 | but its the same like with .33 |
| 19:29:04 | Rob2222 | i can flash orig .31 and orig .33, but nothing other. not from .31 away and not from .33 away |
| 19:29:36 | Rob2222 | i already tried that way |
| 19:29:45 | FlynDice | ok, I just used V02.03.31A and it updates just fine, no A on yours I suppose? |
| 19:30:16 | Rob2222 | means A the rockbox patech? |
| 19:30:52 | Rob2222 | patched |
| 19:30:55 | FlynDice | no, my OF firmware reports V02.03.31A from the syatem menu |
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| 19:31:07 | FlynDice | er system even |
| 19:31:30 | Rob2222 | ah yeah, mine, too |
| 19:31:45 | Rob2222 | have that on the player now again |
| 19:31:48 | Rob2222 | .31A |
| 19:32:39 | FlynDice | I just used it to run the firmware upgrade and it worked fine..... You say your fuzev2 is brand new? |
| 19:33:05 | Rob2222 | it still wont accept a older or patched version that .31A |
| 19:33:14 | Rob2222 | yeh, got it today from amazon.de |
| 19:33:44 | Rob2222 | purchased it for rockbox as alternative to my rockbox iriver H340@80 |
| 19:33:48 | Rob2222 | hmm |
| 19:34:00 | Rob2222 | it cam with .31A and I flashed it to .33 |
| 19:34:05 | Rob2222 | maybe that was the error |
| 19:34:06 | FlynDice | bummer, I guess maybe Sandisk does care about us.. ;/ |
| 19:34:07 | Rob2222 | :/ |
| 19:34:17 | bertrik | funman, ranma, is the button light also supposed to PWM on the c200v2? |
| 19:34:24 | funman | i don't think sandisk try to prevent us running rockbox |
| 19:34:48 | funman | bertrik: i don't remember |
| 19:34:57 | Rob2222 | then wy my stupid player doesnt flash somthing other than the .31 and .33 original :/ |
| 19:35:20 | funman | perhaps the flags we don't understand mean something special |
| 19:36:01 | Rob2222 | at least i got a clip+ in the same shipment thats rockboxing fine |
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| 19:38:08 | funman | Rob2222: what's the md5sum of your patched fuze 2.3.33 OF (the one which doesn't work) |
| 19:38:51 | funman | assuming you downloaded bootloader from http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/sandisk-sansa/fuzev2/bootloader-fuzev2.sansa |
| 19:39:37 | Rob2222 | 65d84013a988c098cd23b2f45dd6311c *output.bin |
| 19:39:47 | Rob2222 | yeah i did |
| 19:41:19 | funman | ok same here, i can't try update now since my fuzev2 is crashed and i can't power it off |
| 19:41:31 | Rob2222 | huh? |
| 19:41:37 | Rob2222 | what youre doing then? |
| 19:41:47 | funman | what i'm doing? |
| 19:41:48 | Rob2222 | waiting until the battery is empty? |
| 19:41:50 | funman | yeah |
| 19:41:55 | Rob2222 | OH MY GOD |
| 19:42:05 | Rob2222 | thats bad |
| 19:42:31 | funman | breaking the fuzev2 was easy, now i'm trying to break my clipv1 ^^ |
| 19:42:41 | Rob2222 | lo |
| 19:42:42 | Rob2222 | l |
| 19:42:58 | Rob2222 | does the low-battery power off works in hardware? |
| 19:43:08 | Rob2222 | would be bad to deep-discharge the li-ion |
| 19:43:09 | Rob2222 | ^^ |
| 19:43:12 | FlynDice | it's always more fun if explosives are involved... ;-) |
| 19:43:33 | funman | dunno |
| 19:43:56 | Rob2222 | what youve done to break it? |
| 19:44:25 | funman | nothing special .. i was modifying some lcd code |
| 19:44:47 | funman | i don't remember if it went like that when plugging the USB cable or somewhen else |
| 19:45:37 | Rob2222 | you had that already? |
| 19:45:41 | Rob2222 | or first time? |
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| 19:46:03 | funman | i was not a virgin of 'can't power off', what do you think !! |
| 19:46:19 | Rob2222 | lol ok |
| 19:46:25 | Rob2222 | so when thats normal ^^ |
| 19:48:04 | FlynDice | getting good battery life now aren't you though.... |
| 19:49:47 | Rob2222 | when it hangs it uses much power, or? |
| 19:50:03 | Rob2222 | ok depends on the cpu state |
| 19:50:25 | Rob2222 | and when it goes off, what do you do then? connect USB? |
| 19:50:49 | FlynDice | with fingers crossed |
| 19:51:01 | Rob2222 | ouch |
| 19:51:16 | Rob2222 | thats hard developing |
| 19:51:34 | Rob2222 | have you a possibility to unbrick it, yet? |
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| 19:53:46 | * | fml invites everyone to look at FS #11271 (new 29 pixels high font). It now contains latin letters and hence can be included into the official font pack IMO. |
| 19:55:14 | Rob2222 | FlynDice: I just read in the Sansa forum that there is a reset metoth with 20-30 second holding power. But i think you know that, or? |
| 19:57:39 | topik | FlynDice and funman probably know more about sansa's then most sandisk people |
| 19:57:45 | FlynDice | Yes, we know that, it's funman's fuze |
| 19:58:07 | Rob2222 | ok, i think asking is never wrong ^^ |
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| 19:59:31 | FlynDice | funman's the genious here, I just tag along... ;) |
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| 20:00:04 | Rob2222 | hmm i have 14 days to return my fuze from today |
| 20:00:22 | Rob2222 | hope we get something new regarding the firmware in that time |
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| 20:01:22 | Rob2222 | atm i see 3 people with the non-flashing problem, from which 1 returned his unit and got a new one where the flash was working |
| 20:01:35 | Rob2222 | but i think, thats jut another new check, too |
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| 20:03:32 | fml | Here is the link to the generated .fnt file: http://uploadfile.org/download.php?id=jpfBh5YwTiR5MnEACOdI |
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| 20:12:31 | pyther | Hi |
| 20:13:00 | pyther | Is it possible to power off my fushion while it is plugged into the charger/computer? |
| 20:15:26 | FlynDice | your fuze maybe? |
| 20:15:49 | fml | I think it would be good to fix FS #11294 before the release since it's a core and often used feature |
| 20:18:21 | pyther | FlynDice: yes my fuze :P |
| 20:19:13 | FlynDice | do you need it to power down or just make the display dark...? |
| 20:19:54 | pyther | FlynDice: well is it ok to keep it running for an extended period of time +24hrs? |
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| 20:21:04 | FlynDice | I don't think there's any problem with that, Charging shuts off when the battery is full. |
| 20:22:06 | pyther | How do I update rockbox? Just replace the .rockbox dir? |
| 20:22:34 | funman | charging stops when battery is full but begins again around 95% |
| 20:22:53 | funman | pyther: yeah, or overwrite it if you want to keep settings |
| 20:24:00 | pyther | cool that is easy :D |
| 20:24:20 | pyther | Now I just wish there was a really good theme :P |
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| 20:25:05 | Rob2222 | FlynDice: The letter behind the firmware number is the regio setting. A=america F=europe and P=pacific(rest of world) ^^ |
| 20:25:05 | * | bertrik almost bisected the problem with his c200v2 |
| 20:25:45 | pelirrasta | Hi there, can anyone help me out with a permissions problem on linux? |
| 20:26:01 | gevaerts | kugel: How are things going? I haven't been very attentive the last week or so... |
| 20:26:25 | * | bertrik blames svn r26330 |
| 20:27:20 | * | funman pretends not having seen that |
| 20:27:57 | kugel | gevaerts: slowly, currently :( |
| 20:28:00 | funman | bertrik: what does ack ing before running do_sw_pwm() do ? |
| 20:29:34 | gevaerts | pelirrasta: rockbox related? |
| 20:30:20 | pelirrasta | yes, I want to install rockbox on a 30gb ipod video, when i try to run the installer it says "permission denied" |
| 20:31:03 | topik | run the installer as root ? |
| 20:31:16 | kugel | funman: that commit seems to change more than that |
| 20:31:20 | gevaerts | pelirrasta: the graphical installer I assume? |
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| 20:31:48 | funman | kugel: ah indeed i have removed a return |
| 20:31:50 | bertrik | maybe the return shouldn't have been removed/ |
| 20:31:52 | pelirrasta | yes, graphical |
| 20:32:05 | funman | good catch |
| 20:32:16 | gevaerts | does it say that when you launch the installer, or when you actually want to install? |
| 20:32:40 | bluebrother | oh, wrong channel |
| 20:32:41 | bluebrother | can users change task priority in FS? |
| 20:32:44 | pelirrasta | when i try to install |
| 20:32:44 | bluebrother | *gnah* |
| 20:32:53 | * | bluebrother needs typing class |
| 20:32:55 | kugel | funman: re your previous question: I think ack'ing the interrupt needs to be done at last otherwise the vic will leave the handler too early (at least that's what happened to me while doing the scrollwheel isr work) |
| 20:33:05 | gevaerts | pelirrasta: ok, in that case, see topik's advice, and run it as root, or using sudo |
| 20:33:36 | funman | kugel: the handler should leave only when returning |
| 20:33:41 | kugel | the scrollwheel func wasn't called when I ack'd the irq at the beginning |
| 20:33:51 | kugel | moving it down fixed it |
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| 20:35:25 | pelirrasta | I'm not really sure how to do that. I don't know what the command to open the installer is. |
| 20:35:34 | pelirrasta | I was using the graphical |
| 20:35:50 | kugel | maybe it only applies if there're nested function calls |
| 20:36:42 | bertrik | with just the return restored, it works again on my c200v2 |
| 20:37:35 | gevaerts | pelirrasta: using the command line it's easy. I have no idea how to do it from a GUI file manager, but I'd assume there might be an option in the context menu (i.e. when you right-click on it) to do that |
| 20:38:45 | pelirrasta | Can you tell me what the command is to open the rockbox installer? I tried "sudo RockboxUtility" from the command line in that folder. |
| 20:39:29 | gevaerts | "sudo ./RockboxUtility" probably |
| 20:39:29 | bluebrother | pelirrasta: sudo ./RockboxUtility (if the binary is in your current folder) |
| 20:39:34 | domonoky1 | pelirrasta: cd to the dir where the installer is, then sudo ./Rock<Tab> <enter> :-) |
| 20:39:49 | bluebrother | RockTab? ;-) |
| 20:39:52 | pelirrasta | mmmm right... forgot the ./ |
| 20:40:16 | pelirrasta | thanks, i'm still a bit new to linux and trying to learn to navigate with terminal |
| 20:40:44 | pelirrasta | sweet! appears to be working! |
| 20:40:51 | * | bluebrother gets annoyed by those "we need another bug because Rockbox Utility doesn't work with orca" whining |
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| 20:45:01 | domonoky1 | this whole accessibility thing is a mess.. :-/ |
| 20:46:33 | bluebrother | indeed. |
| 20:48:08 | r0b- | is rockbox usable on the clip +? |
| 20:48:15 | Rob2222 | yes |
| 20:48:18 | Rob2222 | just installed it |
| 20:48:19 | Rob2222 | :D |
| 20:49:53 | FlynDice | funman: It is indeed r26291 that breaks my uSD. I haven't tried to massage it any yet though. |
| 20:50:04 | FlynDice | I'm out of time for now |
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| 20:52:12 | Rob2222 | FlynDice: Do you think i have a chance for my FuzeV2 to flash another FW anywhen? |
| 20:56:21 | funman | FlynDice: when you do, start by removing the 'be sure the card has finished programming' -> this is the only difference I can see, except that i removed the udelay i had added a few revisions before |
| 20:57:49 | funman | Rob2222: afer you reconnect the fuze, the firmware is still on disk or has it been removed? |
| 20:57:56 | funman | (when the upgrade fails) |
| 20:58:02 | Rob2222 | its still there |
| 20:59:03 | Rob2222 | im out of ideas, i tried everything, reste, factory default, and flash anything from .31 and from .33 but its accepting nothing other than .31 and .33 org files |
| 20:59:09 | Rob2222 | between this 2 i can switch |
| 20:59:25 | Rob2222 | but not between older FWs or RB-patched.ones |
| 20:59:57 | Rob2222 | i tried deleting all files but the FW, too |
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| 21:00:10 | Rob2222 | but the player just recreates the files |
| 21:00:12 | bertrik | funman, I'll commit the restored return in kernel-as3525.c, ok? |
| 21:00:19 | funman | i didn't try to update to older OFs |
| 21:00:23 | funman | bertrik: sure |
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| 21:00:32 | funman | sorry for the trouble :s |
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| 21:02:25 | Rob2222 | funman: i just wonder why it didnt even flahes the older orig FWs. its a brand new unit and im not the only one with that. counting 3 people haveing the same issue |
| 21:02:37 | funman | ask Sandisk |
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| 21:03:05 | Rob2222 | already posted in theie forum. but i dont think they will care about that one :( |
| 21:03:28 | Rob2222 | but i can return the unit 14 days |
| 21:04:34 | CIA-5 | New commit by bertrik (r26361): Restore return statement in kernel-as3525.c that was accidentally removed in r26330. This fixes c200v2 black screen. |
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| 21:14:29 | kugel | btw, what happened about the idea of ignoring short enums so that we can finally go with 4.4.x eabi gcc? |
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| 21:14:44 | kugel | or did jhMikeS volounteer to fix doom? |
| 21:17:20 | gevaerts | I'd say doom is doomed |
| 21:17:51 | pyther | Is it possible to clear the current playlist? |
| 21:17:56 | topik | is doom more than a gimmick on most devices? |
| 21:19:04 | gevaerts | pyther: I don't think there is, but I can't really see why you'd want that |
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| 21:19:44 | kugel | gevaerts: nice pun but does it help towards a decision? |
| 21:19:58 | kugel | assuming you don't mean we should just get rid of it |
| 21:20:06 | pyther | gevaerts: well what I would like is the ability to add a bunch of songs in shuffle mode without have toggle shuffle |
| 21:20:13 | pyther | I can insert songs shuffled |
| 21:22:30 | gevaerts | hm |
| 21:22:36 | bertrik | There are so many color targets with LCD invert now, that I'm tempted to add it for the c200/c200v2 too |
| 21:23:03 | gevaerts | kugel: well, it doesn't really help of course. I'd say disable short enums |
| 21:23:46 | gevaerts | And switch in one or two weeks, just after the release |
| 21:24:36 | bertrik | do we know what the exact problem is and how to fix it? is it just a question of someone doing it or do we need more research? |
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| 21:26:24 | funman | kugel: we could decide to switch to eabi after release and hope someone fixes doom before the next release |
| 21:26:55 | funman | s/could/should/ even |
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| 21:27:15 | kugel | unfortunately removing doom isn't an option, I'm rather annoyed by it |
| 21:28:15 | funman | not removing it but leaving it broken until fixed |
| 21:28:21 | bluebrother | remove doom! :) |
| 21:28:23 | Luca_S | removing no, but maybe just doing the switch would help fixing it in small steps |
| 21:28:57 | kugel | funman: would be fine with me |
| 21:29:07 | Luca_S | i was wondering if the problems reported with flashing sansa firmwares has something to do with the changed model byte |
| 21:29:09 | kugel | I don't use it, I'm only annoyed by the time it takes to compile |
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| 21:29:35 | funman | Luca_S: the 16 bits (not byte) changed in other models already |
| 21:29:47 | Kevone | has anyone sucessfully install the rockbox on a 120GB iPod Video Classic |
| 21:30:02 | bluebrother | Kevone: Rockbox does not run on the Ipod Classic |
| 21:30:11 | bluebrother | see the front page for a list of devices it runs on |
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| 21:32:06 | Luca_S | well, maybe recentish OFs check that the value is in some table, while earlier FW did not check that. Of course, it might as well be that those bytes mean nothing, or something completely different. But this glitch may help checking the hypotesis... by flipping those bytes (and recomputing crcs, if any) in an older OF version |
| 21:32:32 | Kevone | someone told me that its possible |
| 21:33:04 | bluebrother | it's possible to swap the hard drive on an supported Ipod to a bigger one and then run Rockbox |
| 21:33:23 | bluebrother | however, the hardware in the newer Ipods is completely different. |
| 21:33:31 | gevaerts | Kevone: then eithe someone was mistaken or lying, or someone has ported rockbox to the classic and not told us |
| 21:33:58 | Rob2222 | bluebrother: you know whats the max size that fits in the ipod vide? |
| 21:33:59 | bluebrother | is there even a way known to run custom code on the 6G Ipods? I'm not aware of any. |
| 21:34:13 | bluebrother | Rob2222: no, never had a video |
| 21:34:15 | funman | Luca_S: 2.2.26 has the same value than 2.3.31 and 2.1.17 is different |
| 21:34:23 | Kevone | so this model # a1238 aint possible |
| 21:34:37 | Rob2222 | would like to have any rockbox polayer with more than 80gb |
| 21:34:45 | bluebrother | Rob2222: my guess is that the only problem would be to find a hard drive that fits physically and has the right connector |
| 21:35:08 | Rob2222 | i thought maybe the classic has the same drive as you mentioned swap drives |
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| 21:35:13 | bluebrother | Kevone: see the apple website on the exact player model. Anything newer than a 5.5G is not supported |
| 21:35:23 | funman | 14h30 on clip+, 16h on clipv2 |
| 21:35:28 | bluebrother | Rob2222: possible, but I don't know. I only swapped the drive in my mini :) |
| 21:35:54 | Kevone | its not a big deal |
| 21:35:58 | gevaerts | Rob2222: people use rockbox on ipod videos with 240GB drives |
| 21:36:29 | Rob2222 | yay |
| 21:36:47 | Rob2222 | are the 240gig drived taken from classics? |
| 21:36:54 | CIA-5 | New commit by bertrik (r26362): Apply FS #9194 - LCD invert for Sansa c200/c200v2 |
| 21:37:03 | gevaerts | no idea |
| 21:37:18 | gevaerts | Probably not. They might be the same model though |
| 21:37:40 | gevaerts | I'm sure there are some forum posts with model numbers |
| 21:39:48 | Rob2222 | hmm well |
| 21:40:34 | Rob2222 | maybe i had should go this way (ipod video+hd upgrade) than the fuze. really depressing atm, purchased a fuzev2 for RB and now that thing wont flash the patched firmware :( |
| 21:41:06 | Luca_S | Rob2222: think about it as a challenge or a chance for research :D |
| 21:41:47 | Rob2222 | im no dev and what can i do without speanding month in getting int that stuff |
| 21:46:27 | kugel | funman: the v10 freq scaling patch has been very stable for me so far |
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| 21:48:38 | funman | i'm still unsure if it should be committed since it doesnt' work on the clips |
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| 21:51:04 | kugel | funman: 24MHz-clips or all clips? |
| 21:52:24 | Kevone | theres no such thing as a 240gb. Someone had to custom make iut |
| 21:52:33 | Kevone | it |
| 21:52:33 | funman | clipv2/+, but the patch which uses 40MHz doesn't work either |
| 21:53:48 | kugel | funman: strange :( |
| 21:54:15 | funman | if i can get one of my clips soldered to some wires at DevCon perhaps i can udnerstand what happens |
| 21:55:02 | kugel | the fuzev2 (with freq scaling) is more stable and has longer battery runtime than the fuzev1 currently |
| 21:55:10 | Rob2222 | btw, is there a button to return from filelist to WPS without selecting a new song (@Clip+)? |
| 21:55:58 | Rob2222 | according the manual ist "play" but this just goes "up" |
| 21:56:47 | Kevone | I got a suggestion, buy an iPod touch |
| 21:57:09 | Rob2222 | for me? |
| 21:58:05 | Kevone | yeah, the custom firmware is so much better than any of the older ipod touchs. |
| 21:58:05 | funman | kugel: unless you use class 6 µSD or wake up alarm :'( |
| 21:58:41 | gevaerts | Kevone: the ipod touch isn't in any way related to rockbox, and therefore off-topic |
| 21:59:07 | Kevone | well, I am just giving suggestions |
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| 21:59:32 | Rob2222 | Kevone: god behave Im using RB since iriver H140, last years on a H3"80". would never buy a player thats not rockbox capable. i just purchased a fuze2 and a clip+ to have somthing smaller than my H380 |
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| 22:00:05 | Rob2222 | Kevone: yeah, thx for that but im a oldscholl RB user :D |
| 22:00:13 | Rob2222 | doesnt want something other |
| 22:00:54 | Rob2222 | but a RBed ipod Video with 240GBHD would be interesting... even if i dont like the wheel thingies |
| 22:01:39 | Llorean | gevaerts, Rob2222: Hasn't someone done the 240gb thing in a Gigabeat too now? |
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| 22:02:06 | gevaerts | someone was going to try... |
| 22:02:12 | Rob2222 | hmm, i dont know. if the gigabeat has zif socket, too, it could be |
| 22:02:32 | Rob2222 | a pity the H340 has a PATA connector :( |
| 22:02:42 | Rob2222 | i think 120GB was max aviable there |
| 22:02:50 | Kevone | That ipod would be Huge, 240gb, lol |
| 22:03:05 | Kevone | but badass |
| 22:03:29 | Rob2222 | you can buy that 240gb drives for the ipod video |
| 22:03:53 | Rob2222 | theoretical 110 euro, but not deliverable, some shops have them in stock but want 200 euro |
| 22:04:31 | Rob2222 | I upgraded my H340 to 80GB as the first 60GB ipods came out. :D |
| 22:04:53 | Kevone | is it the same size as the 120 hdd, so it would fit in its case |
| 22:05:18 | Rob2222 | yeah, 120GB would be the biggest aviable with PATA interface for the H340 |
| 22:05:50 | Kevone | well, i mean for an ipod |
| 22:05:54 | Rob2222 | but im really enthusiastic about the small size of the clip+ and its RB capable :) |
| 22:06:18 | Rob2222 | http://www.rapidrepair.com/shop/3119-hard-drive-disk-mk2431gah.html |
| 22:06:41 | Kevone | the width and height would be the same, for an 240gb, as a 120Gb |
| 22:07:23 | Rob2222 | yeah |
| 22:08:30 | Kevone | one more question, why is the 160gb bigger than the 120gb |
| 22:08:48 | Rob2222 | they have 1 and 2 platters inside |
| 22:09:00 | Rob2222 | so they have a different height |
| 22:09:29 | Rob2222 | the 240gb model has 2 platter/discs |
| 22:09:44 | Rob2222 | so it fits in all unit that already have a disc with 2 plattern in it. |
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| 22:09:56 | Rob2222 | for example the ipod video 80gb |
| 22:10:30 | * | gevaerts doesn't think that the reasons for disk manufacturers to choose for 5mm or 8mm are not on-topic here |
| 22:10:47 | * | gevaerts *does* think that, sorry |
| 22:11:30 | Kevone | Thanks for the info Rob2222, I am going to think about the 240GB. Anymore i should know about before i decide to by it |
| 22:11:32 | Kevone | buy |
| 22:12:02 | Rob2222 | just make sure it fits |
| 22:12:18 | Rob2222 | for example ipod video 80gb has 2 platter discs |
| 22:12:33 | Rob2222 | but later there were 80gb with 1 platter aviable, too |
| 22:13:03 | Kevone | not trying to act dumb but what are platters |
| 22:13:25 | Rob2222 | platter is another name for disc |
| 22:13:37 | Kevone | ok makes sense |
| 22:13:43 | Rob2222 | the discs that are IN the harddiscdrive |
| 22:14:19 | Rob2222 | http://www.ntfs.com/images/recover-hard-drive.gif <= 2 platter |
| 22:14:52 | Kevone | well, i am going to do a lot of research on the internet and see if there is anyone that successfully added that kind of size on a 120gb ipod |
| 22:15:22 | Rob2222 | you have a ipod classic? |
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| 22:16:06 | Kevone | yeah, a Black 120 GB iPod video classic |
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| 22:17:46 | Rob2222 | http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_iPod#Sechste_Generation_.28iPod_classic.29 |
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| 22:18:07 | Rob2222 | iups thats german |
| 22:18:10 | Rob2222 | sorry |
| 22:19:14 | Rob2222 | hmm |
| 22:19:26 | krazykit | Kevone, there's no such thing as an "ipod video classic". since it's 120gb, and presuming that it was that way from apple, it's a Classic, and thus you can't run rockbox on it |
| 22:19:43 | Rob2222 | it looks like the 120gb has a 1 platter drive cause its thinner than the first generation 160gb ipod classic |
| 22:20:06 | Rob2222 | krazykit: i think he just thinks about HD upgrade |
| 22:20:15 | gevaerts | Look, this really isn't a general DAP support channel |
| 22:20:45 | Kevone | come on we are talking about ipods. Rockbox has to do with ipods. |
| 22:21:07 | Rob2222 | gevaerts: can somebody the help my rockbocing my damn fuze2 :( |
| 22:21:26 | Rob2222 | ok im quiet |
| 22:21:44 | Llorean | Kevone: Rockbox is software that happens to run on many hardwares. |
| 22:21:53 | gevaerts | Kevone: rockbox is not at all related to wich drives work in an ipod classic |
| 22:26:03 | Rob2222 | but if someone has any new idea how to flash the fuze2 RB-patched-firmware, just PM me, im happy to test |
| 22:26:29 | gevaerts | Rob2222: that would be on-topic, no need for a PM there :) |
| 22:27:07 | Rob2222 | ok |
| 22:31:35 | Llorean | If the version check is removed, will the patcher just work with newer OFs, or does each OF require some analysis first? |
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| 22:40:44 | funman | Llorean: you mean mkamsboot md5sum list, or (apparently new) Sandisk version check ? |
| 22:41:33 | Llorean | funman: md5sum list? |
| 22:41:37 | Llorean | ER, not a question |
| 22:42:02 | Llorean | Can the patcher be made to patch any firmware version with a −−force flag or similar (for brave souls who don't wish to wait for the next updated md5sum list) |
| 22:42:10 | funman | if it's removed, nothing prevents you from patching a c200v2 OF with clip+ bootloader/code => when you put this on a c200v2, BOOM |
| 22:42:24 | funman | yeah a −−force flag is possible |
| 22:42:27 | funman | but it's already there |
| 22:42:38 | funman | it's just called a 'get a build environment, fetch SVN and modify the code' flag |
| 22:42:52 | funman | not too strong i think |
| 22:43:19 | Llorean | That takes an awful lot of time and/or space for someone who's willing to test. |
| 22:43:47 | Llorean | But yeah, might as well keep it safe |
| 22:43:49 | Rob2222 | what should that bring? |
| 22:43:55 | funman | yeah but given numerous messages on forums from people who can't install properly and try numerous weird things, i think it's better |
| 22:44:16 | funman | Llorean: if *you* want to test a new version, just ask :) |
| 22:44:24 | Rob2222 | i think the risk would be to high to brick the player |
| 22:44:30 | Llorean | funman: If *I* want to test a new version, I'll just compile. :) |
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| 22:44:37 | funman | :P |
| 22:45:11 | funman | it's especially plausible that people would install fuzev1 bootcode on fuzev2 and vice versa |
| 22:45:14 | Llorean | funman: Could we prevent patching by still requiring the other checks? For example, only patch the bootloader type of a player physically attached to the computer? |
| 22:45:25 | Llorean | Can we differentiate v1 and v2 by something other than the firmware? |
| 22:45:32 | Rob2222 | hmm, i would investigate the sandisk version problem, but i have no idea where to start |
| 22:45:35 | funman | USB id works yes |
| 22:45:52 | funman | but if you give a fuzev1 OF we can't differentiate it from fuzev2 OF |
| 22:46:06 | Llorean | So "force" could ignore the MD5sum but only patch a bootloader for the physically attached player? |
| 22:46:37 | Llorean | So that way even if you get the wrong OF, you have the right bootloader and can get into USB mode? (is that safe, or can USB mode + wrong OF still leave you with an unrecoverable player?) |
| 22:46:41 | funman | only rbutil checks USB ids |
| 22:47:04 | funman | if you have the wrong OF i suppose the player wouldn't accept it |
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| 22:48:25 | Llorean | Ah well, it's not too important. Soon enough they'll stop coming out with new OFs anyway |
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| 22:50:49 | kugel | hm, alarmclock.rock is broken |
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| 23:08:54 | CIA-5 | New commit by kugel (r26363): Fix typo that made alarmclock exit immediately and add scrollwheel actions. |
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| 23:12:25 | CIA-5 | New commit by kugel (r26364): Backport 26363: ... |
| 23:14:48 | FlynDice | funman: Removing the 'be sure the card has finished programming' code returns correct function to uSD writes for me. You want to test it or are you ok with the code removed? |
| 23:15:48 | funman | well i know it will break somewhen else |
| 23:16:30 | funman | hm OTOH it was before I apply the timeout diff to the v2 code |
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| 23:19:10 | funman | FlynDice: did you try heavy loading it with playback from internal while database updates from µSD ? |
| 23:20:04 | FlynDice | nope, I'll do that now though. I did write & verify and copied multiple directories from internal -> uSD |
| 23:23:25 | FlynDice | That went just fine |
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| 23:35:17 | funman | ok |
| 23:35:32 | funman | just commit :) |
| 23:36:20 | funman | wow building clipv1 with thumb gives 84.5kB audio buffer |
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| 23:37:24 | FlynDice | and wait for the screams!... |
| 23:37:36 | funman | 85.2kB binsize -> a bit more stack usage |
| 23:37:43 | FlynDice | I think it should be fine |
| 23:38:21 | * | FlynDice knows nothing about bin size, was commenting on sd ;) |
| 23:38:24 | funman | and apps/codecs/nsf.c causes an ICE :) |
| 23:39:21 | funman | EmulateAPU() |
| 23:40:26 | funman | i suppose the plugins also are smaller |
| 23:42:08 | Rob2222 | can i dump the fuze2 firmware partition with sansapatcher (without having a RB BL) ? |
| 23:42:13 | funman | no |
| 23:42:21 | Rob2222 | a pity |
| 23:42:44 | funman | you must unsolder the NAND or solder a JTAG adaptor if it's possible |
| 23:43:05 | Rob2222 | ugh :( |
| 23:43:25 | Rob2222 | i think before i do that ill return the player |
| 23:43:45 | Rob2222 | but then is the question, how to get a RB capable fuze |
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| 23:44:38 | funman | if you find the answer, please tell us, because we don't know |
| 23:44:58 | Rob2222 | yeah im collection serial numbers atm |
| 23:45:22 | Rob2222 | btw have you any idea what i could make to get a first step furher regarding the flash issue? |
| 23:46:00 | Rob2222 | btw is there a "main"-dev for the sansa BL? |
| 23:46:50 | funman | first step would be closing the irc window because i don't see how other people can help you |
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| 23:47:40 | CIA-5 | New commit by FlynDice (r26365): sd-as3525.c: Do not wait for TRAN state after transfer is over. ... |
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| 23:49:47 | Rob2222 | now thats a really productive suggestion |
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| 23:55:33 | mc2739 | FlynDice: your last commit should probably be backported to the v3_6 branch since it affects release targets |
| 23:56:03 | mc2739 | s/affects/effects/ |
| 23:56:09 | funman | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6734#comment35710 < build with thumb |
| 23:56:38 | FlynDice | mc2739: Probably but why don't we make sure there are no complaints for a day or so ;-). |
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