| 00:00:33 | kugel | funman: nope :( |
| 00:01:40 | kugel | funman: you didn't change crt0.S did you? |
| 00:01:46 | funman | nope |
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| 00:03:46 | kugel | maybe the branch to main bugs a bit |
| 00:03:54 | funman | main is ARM so it's ok |
| 00:04:14 | kugel | hm, strange |
| 00:04:18 | jhMikeS | best way to get code to proliferate is put it in SVN :) (how many times has YUV dithering asm been replicated now?) |
| 00:04:46 | funman | jhMikeS: btw wouldn't it be possible to merge common code to a single file? |
| 00:05:01 | funman | perhaps #including target specific code |
| 00:06:02 | jhMikeS | funman: that YUV stuff could probably could be macrod for the various write parts/lcd sizes instead of copied over and over |
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| 00:08:08 | jhMikeS | since now we're allowed .c #include (which I wanted to do before and got heavy disagreement), I think thread.c needs just such a treatment |
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| 00:11:52 | funman | http://rafael.carre.perso.sfr.fr/rockbox.zip (e200v1 thumb build with single core) |
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| 00:14:19 | jhMikeS | ahem? oh, we're going back to not using the COP? ;) |
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| 00:26:45 | funman | http://pastie.org/984909 <- thumb effect on clipv1 plugin sizes |
| 00:27:02 | funman | jhMikeS: well if it works then i'll look carefully at dualcore code.. |
| 00:28:07 | amiconn | Somehow all number for subdir plugins are broken |
| 00:28:11 | amiconn | *numbers |
| 00:28:17 | mc2739 | funman: are you going to backport your francais.lang updates, or should I? |
| 00:28:29 | funman | amiconn: no, overlays |
| 00:28:53 | funman | mc2739: i'll do it when my tree finishes cloning |
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| 00:29:30 | mc2739 | ok |
| 00:29:34 | funman | mc2739: btw i think lcd_set_flip() won't work on e200v2 if backlight goes off |
| 00:30:07 | funman | i have a patch which makes fuze & e200v2 use the same code but it's not tested yet |
| 00:30:36 | funman | if e200v2 / fuzes can't use the same lcd_enable() code i think i'll give up with this and keep them separate |
| 00:34:21 | mc2739 | funman: lcd does stay flipped after backup going off (r23684) |
| 00:34:47 | amiconn | arr |
| 00:35:06 | amiconn | ATA DMA on PP seems to be broken at 24MHz |
| 00:35:46 | mc2739 | s/backup/backlight/ |
| 00:35:58 | funman | hm strange R_DRV_OUTPUT_CONTROL is reset in _display_on() |
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| 01:03:56 | Torne | amiconn: it shouldn't be, it should be conditionaled up to use a mode that works for various clocks |
| 01:04:06 | Torne | amiconn: maybe i cocked it up :) |
| 01:04:16 | Torne | hm, kugel's not here. |
| 01:04:27 | amiconn | Well, if I try to load a plugin at 24MHz on my Mini G2, it errors out |
| 01:05:22 | Torne | amiconn: what mode does it say it's using in the debug menu? |
| 01:05:36 | Torne | UDMA 2 doesn't work at less than 30MHz |
| 01:05:52 | Torne | but if CPUFREQ_NORMAL is defined as 24 it should automatically use UDMA1 |
| 01:06:08 | Torne | see the end of firmware/target/arm/ata-target.h |
| 01:06:16 | amiconn | I didn't change CPUFREQ_NORMAL |
| 01:06:30 | amiconn | I'm just switching to CPUFREQ_DEFAULT via debug menu |
| 01:07:09 | Torne | Ah, right |
| 01:07:15 | Torne | Yeah that doesn't work |
| 01:07:21 | Torne | We skipped considering that case ;) |
| 01:07:54 | Torne | because the only times the cpu drops to the lower rate without debug intervention is radio playback or when using a usb bridge for msc |
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| 01:08:02 | Torne | i.e times when rockbox doesn't access the disk |
| 01:08:16 | Torne | so yeah, on PP you now can't access the disk when the cpu is in idle mode |
| 01:08:21 | Torne | ..sorry :) |
| 01:08:37 | amiconn | That means I can't use test_fps to test 24MHz |
| 01:08:58 | Torne | well, you can by recompiling with a changed CPUFREQ_NORMAL |
| 01:08:59 | Torne | but yeah |
| 01:09:02 | amiconn | It's not very important, but it is listed on LcdFrameRate |
| 01:09:03 | Torne | that's not as handy |
| 01:09:10 | r0b- | did you guys change the key combo for Lock/Unlock on the Clip Plus? |
| 01:09:34 | Llorean | r0b-: It's in the SVN log, I believe... |
| 01:09:34 | Torne | We discussed this briefly and concluded it wasn't 100% trivial to account for runtime freq changes and just decided it wasn't important :) |
| 01:09:54 | r0b- | how do I as a user view the SVN Log? |
| 01:09:58 | Torne | Has someone already pointed out that the new pluginlib_action keymap for ipod makes "quit" select+play |
| 01:10:10 | Torne | whereas most plugins previously quit with menu+select (which is now PLA_CANCEL rather than PLA_EXIT) |
| 01:10:19 | r0b- | nvm :) |
| 01:10:21 | Torne | i'm kinda annoyed by this |
| 01:10:52 | Torne | but i'm wondering if it was intentional or not. i've not tested very many plugins. |
| 01:11:47 | Torne | hmm. noi, actually i'm oversimplifying |
| 01:12:48 | Torne | plugins don't seem to use EXIT vs CANCEL consistently in the first place.. |
| 01:13:04 | Torne | is it too late to try and fiddle with keymaps more for 3.6? |
| 01:13:55 | r0b- | i dunno if this is a bug or what but i just loaded the LATEST Rockbox build onto my Clip + and the FM Radio vanished? |
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| 01:27:48 | r0b- | ok i seriously think something is up |
| 01:28:11 | r0b- | Rockbox wont see the FM Hardware but the OF will for this Clip Plus |
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| 01:35:34 | r0b- | rockbox wont detect the FM Hardware |
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| 01:52:41 | ssorgatem | any translators here? |
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| 02:22:46 | Rob2222 | does anybody know in which menu is the setting for "fast forward" speed? ive gone trough all settings 4 times and i didnt find anymore. am i blind? ^^ (omg) |
| 02:23:53 | Rob2222 | omg have it |
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| 02:56:39 | r0b- | ok so i have Rockbox on my new Clip + 4GB but the FM Radio hardware is not detected |
| 02:56:45 | r0b- | it detects in the simulator |
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| 02:57:06 | r0b- | its the latest build |
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| 02:59:36 | Unhelpful | r0b-: well, the simulator doesn't *have* any hardware, it's all faked. :) |
| 02:59:45 | Unhelpful | or perhaps i should say "simulated" |
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| 02:59:50 | r0b- | well |
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| 03:03:14 | r0b- | the latest build shows the FM Tuner in my e200 |
| 03:03:15 | funman | r0b-: works for me |
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| 03:04:29 | Rob2222 | fm radio works in my clip+, too |
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| 03:05:22 | r0b- | this makes no sense |
| 03:05:23 | r0b- | :) |
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| 03:08:23 | Rob2222 | i cant decide if i should return my fuze2 or should hope for a wonder. |
| 03:08:58 | r0b- | hmmm the latest rockbox works fine on my e260v1 |
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| 03:10:53 | Rob2222 | funman: may i ask you for a sugestion? |
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| 03:14:58 | saratoga | i'd probably just return it and buy one off ebay where its almost certainly too old a unit to have the firmware issue |
| 03:16:20 | Rob2222 | i think so, too. even if im sure you RB devs will get that anywhen. but i just have 14 days to return it and i just bought it for RB. and i already spent much much time in this issue and time is this what i didnt have atm :( |
| 03:17:03 | Rob2222 | a installed kubuntu in a VW and compiled ams info there and dumped .28 .31 and .33 |
| 03:17:15 | Rob2222 | but didnt found a logical mathcing point |
| 03:17:24 | r0b- | im having my own issues with RB atm :P |
| 03:17:50 | Rob2222 | i had a thought that this could be a DRM issue. |
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| 03:18:30 | r0b- | the FM radio? |
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| 03:18:40 | Rob2222 | no my firmware problem |
| 03:18:46 | r0b- | maybe |
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| 03:21:30 | r0b- | ive tried all builds for the Clip + also |
| 03:21:40 | r0b- | i wonder if my FM Chip is different then yours Rob2222 |
| 03:21:56 | Rob2222 | can i find out anyhow? |
| 03:22:55 | r0b- | ? |
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| 03:24:51 | Rob2222 | is there a point in RB where i can get FM radio chip infos? |
| 03:25:10 | Rob2222 | well propably i can but not r0b- |
| 03:26:16 | Rob2222 | r0b-: well if i understood this right you can disable the radio |
| 03:26:26 | Rob2222 | by renaming the flash-filename when flashing |
| 03:26:50 | r0b- | ? |
| 03:26:54 | Rob2222 | but this would make no sense cause your radio is working at the OF |
| 03:27:03 | r0b- | yea |
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| 03:27:06 | r0b- | so the hardware is good |
| 03:27:31 | r0b- | though its the 4GB :P |
| 03:27:34 | Rob2222 | r0b-: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14064.msg113302#msg113302 |
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| 03:28:43 | Rob2222 | you can enable a test mode of the OF by renaming the flash file from clppa.bin to clppt.bin |
| 03:29:13 | Rob2222 | but cause i already having flashing problems i didnt want to test that on my clip+. but on my fuze that worked |
| 03:29:45 | r0b- | im not gonna reflash with test mode |
| 03:30:02 | Rob2222 | anyway i just checked, theres only a FM radio test |
| 03:30:07 | Rob2222 | no more information |
| 03:30:16 | Rob2222 | about the radio itself |
| 03:30:53 | r0b- | oh by using the clppt.bin ? |
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| 03:32:55 | r0b- | what firmware is yours using? |
| 03:33:14 | Rob2222 | no, by renaming the fuze original firmware from fuzpa.bin to fuzpt.bin |
| 03:35:19 | mc2739 | r0b-: what do you see if you go to System > Debug > FM Radio |
| 03:35:57 | r0b- | HW Detected: no |
| 03:36:05 | r0b- | meaning it cant detect the hardware |
| 03:36:25 | r0b- | the OF can see the hardware fine |
| 03:36:45 | mc2739 | has the radio worked in Rockbox previously? |
| 03:37:05 | r0b- | i just got this player today |
| 03:38:32 | r0b- | i have an e200v1 that rockbox works flawless |
| 03:38:35 | r0b- | FM and all |
| 03:39:48 | mc2739 | ok, this may be another situation like Rob2222 has with his Fuze - possibly a mid-production hardware change |
| 03:40:03 | r0b- | everything else works :) |
| 03:40:04 | r0b- | so |
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| 03:40:29 | Rob2222 | yeah, damn sansa :( |
| 03:40:47 | mc2739 | what verion OF did it come with? |
| 03:40:50 | Rob2222 | i just emailed sansa.de and sansa us support how to downgrade my firmware.... |
| 03:41:25 | Rob2222 | you asking me regarding my fuze? if yes, it was 02.03.31 |
| 03:41:42 | mc2739 | no, r0b- |
| 03:44:37 | JdGordon | bieber: hey |
| 03:45:12 | tmzt | you think firmware version affects whether the fm radio works in rockbox? |
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| 03:46:21 | mc2739 | no, but if there is different hardware, then the OF will have different init routines for each of the hardware versions |
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| 03:56:30 | Drise | hey |
| 03:57:05 | Drise | Im looking for some help with the sansa fuze v2 |
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| 03:58:16 | Rob2222 | whats your problem with it? |
| 03:58:47 | Drise | Everytime i plug it in to charge off a wall charger, it shutsdown ad boots OF |
| 03:59:26 | Drise | I know that the usb driver isnt up yet, but it says charging is good to go |
| 03:59:47 | Rob2222 | but you have to hold select key when push in the plug |
| 03:59:58 | FlynDice | Drise: Have you tried holding the select button while plugging in usb like it says in the manual...... |
| 04:00 |
| 04:00:00 | Drise | ... |
| 04:00:22 | Drise | maybe in the excitement of knowing the v2 port was good, i forgot to... |
| 04:00:25 | mc2739 | Drise: if boot into Rockbox and hold the select button while connecting, it should stay in Rockbox and charge |
| 04:00:39 | Rob2222 | lol |
| 04:00:42 | Drise | Ill give that a try then. |
| 04:00:48 | Rob2222 | at least he heard it 3 times now |
| 04:00:51 | Rob2222 | lol |
| 04:01:03 | FlynDice | mc2739's response is more correct than mine |
| 04:01:08 | Drise | Ive grown so tired of the fuze OF... been waiting forever for it to go stable |
| 04:01:38 | Rob2222 | you lucky guy can at least get RB running |
| 04:01:40 | Rob2222 | i cant :/ |
| 04:01:47 | mc2739 | except I didn't mention the manual |
| 04:01:59 | Drise | bummer... What doesnt work for you? |
| 04:02:19 | Rob2222 | mine player doesnt accept custom flashes. so no rockbox bootloader |
| 04:02:27 | Rob2222 | my* |
| 04:02:36 | Drise | is it a v1? |
| 04:02:46 | Rob2222 | no V2 |
| 04:02:54 | Rob2222 | brand new one |
| 04:03:02 | Rob2222 | made 4/2010 |
| 04:03:04 | Drise | strange. I never ra into that issue on the forums.... |
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| 04:03:25 | Drise | Hm... maybe i shouldnt get mine sent back from sansa |
| 04:03:27 | Rob2222 | multi posts about it the last 2 days |
| 04:03:45 | Drise | is it somethiung sansa has done to prevent rb? |
| 04:04:19 | Rob2222 | i dont think they prevent RB but it could be a DRM thing |
| 04:04:26 | Rob2222 | it wont accept old firmwares, too |
| 04:04:26 | Drise | True. |
| 04:04:41 | Rob2222 | it just flashes 02.03.31 and .33 Nothing more. |
| 04:04:54 | Drise | So any new player coming out of sansa is not a good idea? |
| 04:05:02 | Drise | if you wish to rb? |
| 04:05:30 | Rob2222 | no you cant say that, yet |
| 04:05:48 | Rob2222 | but at least 3-4 people i know have the same issue |
| 04:06:09 | Rob2222 | 2 of us have a BI1004CAHK-8GB model |
| 04:06:18 | Rob2222 | fomr the 3rd person i didnt have information yet |
| 04:06:37 | Drise | Because i geta new one periocically, make up some issue i know they cant fix, they send me an RMA and i get a new one |
| 04:06:42 | Rob2222 | 1004 loos like the production date |
| 04:06:47 | Drise | just to keep it nice and new |
| 04:06:59 | Rob2222 | lol |
| 04:07:12 | Drise | guess in this case that its not a good idea |
| 04:07:14 | Rob2222 | what issue they cant fix? |
| 04:07:33 | Drise | stuff like hardware issues |
| 04:07:43 | Drise | things that reseting the player wont do |
| 04:07:51 | Drise | "low battery life" |
| 04:08:03 | Drise | i have sent in my question too... here it is |
| 04:08:40 | Drise | When using the player recently, I have noticed the battery lasts only a few hours after a full charge over night. This is when only playing music and the device is left untouched. |
| 04:08:40 | Drise | Details |
| 04:08:46 | r0b- | its a flaw in the hard ware |
| 04:09:12 | Drise | and they will try to use a reset, fresh OF etc, and when it "fails" i get an rma |
| 04:09:41 | Drise | i have about 6 pairs of headphones lol |
| 04:12:50 | Rob2222 | hmm ... welll .. |
| 04:12:56 | Rob2222 | anyway im afk |
| 04:13:37 | Drise | thanks for the ehlp folks |
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| 08:06:26 | Topic | "Server down for maintenance today monday 14:00-16:00 CET | 3.6 now branched | Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines | Please direct offtopic/social chat to #rockbox-community | This channel is logged at http://www.rockbox.org/irc | DevCon2010 will be from June 4th to 6th in Ghent, http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/DevConEuro2010" by Zagor (bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) |
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| 08:14:55 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon: I've figured out how to change the image called when USB is connected, but...how do I change the dimensions of said image/and it's alignment etc.? |
| 08:15:13 | S_a_i_n_t | I want to make a fullscreen USB image, or very near to it. |
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| 08:53:37 | JdGordon | S_a_i_n_t: I would have assumed that if you change the bmp size it would magggically work |
| 08:55:23 | S_a_i_n_t | Well, so did I at first...but there seems to be somewhere in the code where the x/y (and possibly image dimensions) are defined. If it were centered onscreen I'd be willing to believe the "magic" theory, but the fact that it appears in a specific position discredits that. |
| 08:55:42 | S_a_i_n_t | I haven't however had much luck finding where thses values are defined. |
| 08:56:07 | S_a_i_n_t | s/much/any/ :( |
| 08:56:44 | JdGordon | try make clean |
| 08:56:55 | JdGordon | the size comes from a .h which is autogened |
| 08:58:56 | S_a_i_n_t | what about the positioning though? It seems to me that it is positioned *somehow*. For instance, the Nanos (176x132) use a 128x37px image that is centered and right aligned. |
| 08:59:29 | S_a_i_n_t | If it was 176x37 I'd understand it just being centered, but the alignment comes from somewhere. |
| 08:59:43 | JdGordon | apps/gui/usb_screen.c |
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| 09:00:33 | S_a_i_n_t | Thanks, I'll have a look. |
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| 09:07:17 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon: Hmmm, the alignment seems beyond me there...I just can't see it. :/ |
| 09:07:23 | * | S_a_i_n_t is a themer, not a coder. |
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| 09:19:42 | pixelma | somewhere is a 10 pixels shift downwards IIRC |
| 09:20:14 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: With the USB bitmap? |
| 09:20:37 | S_a_i_n_t | it also seems to right align of my targets...is this the case elsewhere? |
| 09:21:05 | S_a_i_n_t | centered(-ish)+right aligned. |
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| 09:23:11 | pixelma | yes the USB bitmap, and yes probably. I'd search for occurences of LCD_WIDTH and _bitmap (width) |
| 09:24:00 | S_a_i_n_t | I'd also like to change the splashes to black text on a white background...but I'm stumbling blind there also. |
| 09:28:41 | JdGordon | well the usb logo placement is on line 161/162 of usb_screen.c |
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| 09:48:55 | lazka | Is there a way (linux) to differentiate an ipod from an rockboxed ipod? |
| 09:49:40 | S_a_i_n_t | In what way do you mean? |
| 09:49:45 | Zagor | lazka: look for a .rockbox folder? |
| 09:50:55 | lazka | I want to decide if I talk to it over the fs or through libgpod |
| 09:51:22 | lazka | right.. the rockbox folder. thanks Zagor |
| 09:51:27 | S_a_i_n_t | Zagor's advice seems like the best bet, but...it could still include the .rockbox folder from a previous installation and be missing the bootloader. And tachnically wouldn't be "rockboxed" anymore. |
| 09:51:44 | S_a_i_n_t | *technically. |
| 09:51:53 | lazka | Does the normal IPod support FAT? |
| 09:52:04 | Zagor | yes |
| 09:52:17 | Zagor | some are hfs formatted, some are fat formatted |
| 09:53:33 | S_a_i_n_t | IS there any intention of updating the Nano2g bootloader to include the functionality of the current bootloader (drop to diskmode if rockbox cannot boot)? |
| 09:53:45 | S_a_i_n_t | The Nano2g bootloader is rather ancient now. |
| 09:56:48 | Zagor | lazka: rockboxed ipods are always fat though |
| 09:58:42 | kenguest | S_a_i_n_t: good point - but who would go back from a rockbox'd ipod? |
| 09:58:57 | lazka | ok, thanks. bye |
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| 10:00:21 | S_a_i_n_t | kenguest: Someone may, I admit it's unlikely...I was just pointing out that the presence of the .rockbox folder doesn't necessarily mean that the iPod is Rockboxed. |
| 10:00:54 | S_a_i_n_t | It's fairly likely, but...not definite. |
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| 11:45:52 | wodz | is there a way to know if new value was added to power_history[] array? |
| 11:47:16 | wodz | I mean to know from main thread that powerthread inserted new value |
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| 12:10:59 | JdGordon1 | it is possible I have the skin engine on the brain.. but I really want to replace the code in track info with calls into the get_id3_token() instead of all that duplicated code |
| 12:11:31 | JdGordon1 | the problem is a few of those lines are formatted on the info screen (and plain numbers in the skin engine) or missing completly :/ |
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| 12:43:16 | Rob2223 | Looks like Sandisk doesnt want to accept Rockbox anymore. |
| 12:43:49 | Rob2223 | At least the hotline says that my "Fuze flash issue" is a additional check to make sure no other firmwares get flashed |
| 12:43:52 | Rob2223 | :/ |
| 12:44:10 | Rob2223 | well doen sandisk ... :/ |
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| 12:51:35 | topik | they supposedly changed the hardware to prevent rockbox? i doubt that |
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| 13:04:36 | JdGordon1 | anyone use cuesheets? |
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| 13:08:37 | Rob2223 | topik: i dont think they changed hardware i think they implemented another firmware check |
| 13:09:11 | Zagor | I'd rather think customer invented a new thing to blame |
| 13:09:19 | Zagor | *customer support |
| 13:09:49 | Zagor | though that's just a cynical hunch :) |
| 13:10:13 | S_a_i_n_t | How would that work? The firmware checks itself? That being the case (which TBH, I doubt) it should be easy to remove that check once it's known...when it's known, if it exists. |
| 13:10:34 | Rob2223 | if its not in the AMS rom ... |
| 13:10:59 | Rob2223 | worst case would be signed firmwares thet getchecked by a program in AMS rom |
| 13:11:37 | S_a_i_n_t | Well, I guess we just wait to see if more people start having problems...I'm more inclined to believe that customer service told you some barefaced lies. |
| 13:12:06 | S_a_i_n_t | And that you just have a very picky unit. |
| 13:12:17 | CIA-98 | New commit by jdgordon (r26429): draw markers on the FM frequency bar for presets (like cuesheet markers in the WPS). ... |
| 13:12:31 | Rob2223 | well, cause the .31 is binary identical to other .31 that used by unit that work |
| 13:12:39 | Rob2223 | it must be somthing in the player |
| 13:12:45 | Rob2223 | ok, maybe hardware change |
| 13:12:46 | Rob2223 | could be |
| 13:14:35 | Rob2223 | i dont believe that politic change not yet, too |
| 13:15:02 | S_a_i_n_t | "politic change"? |
| 13:15:25 | Rob2223 | that sandisc trys to prevent used by rockbox |
| 13:16:40 | S_a_i_n_t | They don't specifically target Rockbox....it's more a check that noone can just blindly flash garbage data to the player and kill their unit I would say. |
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| 13:24:40 | S_a_i_n_t | ucchan: Happy to report success in building the arm-elf-eabi toolchain with CygWin 1.7 :D |
| 13:25:15 | ucchan | oh!! |
| 13:26:03 | ucchan | S_a_i_n_t: I confirm arm-elf, sh-elf don't build by Cygwin 1.5/1.7. |
| 13:26:56 | S_a_i_n_t | ucchan: You know you can get arm-elf and sh-elf from download.rockbox.org right? |
| 13:27:34 | S_a_i_n_t | However, I have had no luck building arm-elf with 1.7 either. |
| 13:27:51 | S_a_i_n_t | I just used the prebuilt package in the end. |
| 13:30:03 | ucchan | This problem was solved by correcting rockboxdev.sh a little. maybe can build on cygwin. see http://pastebin.com/kBALT9rm |
| 13:32:04 | ucchan | changes: on cygwin host, not "make -j4" but "make" is used when gcc builds. |
| 13:32:23 | S_a_i_n_t | ucchan: Could you please make a diff of your changes to rockboxdev.sh? |
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| 13:33:30 | S_a_i_n_t | Yes, kugel advised me to change make -j4 to "make" |
| 13:34:20 | ucchan | but build speed is slowly... |
| 13:35:02 | S_a_i_n_t | I built eabi toolchain with success with only a few additional packages. (libiconv, libmpfr, gmp, libgmp, and libmpfr) |
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| 13:36:44 | S_a_i_n_t | Those packages, pluse those listed on the CygWin Rockbox wiki, in addition to changing line 29 of rockboxdev.sh to "make" istead of "make -j4" was sufficient to build the eabi toolchain. |
| 13:36:59 | S_a_i_n_t | I still need to update the wiki, but it is on my todo list. |
| 13:37:42 | AlexP | JdGordon1: Are those markers permanently enabled? |
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| 13:38:26 | ucchan | new rockboxdev.sh diff http://pastebin.com/JWJ8stqR full size: http://pastebin.com/kBALT9rm |
| 13:40:07 | S_a_i_n_t | ucchan: So, to confirm...you have success building arm-elf and sh-elf with those changes to rockboxdev.sh? |
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| 13:40:17 | S_a_i_n_t | And, thankyou for the diff also. |
| 13:40:28 | ucchan | for line 30: -a "$1" != "e" => eabi is used "make -j4". |
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| 13:41:53 | ucchan | yes. sh-elf is success. arm-elf is building but S_a_i_n_t's problem is clear. |
| 13:42:20 | ucchan | and so arm-elf-eabi is success too. |
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| 13:44:00 | funman | Rob2223: there is a simple way to see if they added a cryptographic signature |
| 13:49:19 | S_a_i_n_t | ucchan: What is http://pastebin.com/kBALT9rm? It does not appear to have the changes listed in your diff. |
| 13:50:35 | ucchan | http://pastebin.com/kBALT9rm is full rockboxdev.sh. diff => http://pastebin.com/JWJ8stqR |
| 13:53:00 | S_a_i_n_t | Someone should probably look to see if those changes are suitable to include into rockboxdev.sh permanently. |
| 13:54:01 | funman | ucchan: you can use 'which' return code instead of checking if files exists with [ -f ] |
| 13:57:50 | ucchan | funman: original rockboxdev.sh use "if [ -f "`which gmake 2>/dev/null`" ]; then" (line 26). Should I correct this line? |
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| 14:01:56 | funman | ucchan: sorry, it doesn't matter. if we use `which` , there is no need to use >/dev/null; only 2>/dev/null |
| 14:03:18 | funman | ucchan: shouldn't the change for cygwin be at the start (line 26 - 30) ? |
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| 14:03:33 | S_a_i_n_t | I was thinking that also. |
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| 14:06:36 | ucchan | fuman. I changes only 9, 18, (the value of "system" moves) 26 - 30. |
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| 14:10:16 | funman | oh ok |
| 14:10:32 | funman | I think the patch is good |
| 14:11:03 | JdGordon1 | AlexP: yeah |
| 14:15:30 | ucchan | funman thanks. |
| 14:16:43 | ucchan | The remainder only confirms all cross compilers is created on cygwin 1.5/1.7. |
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| 14:18:28 | ucchan | I will think that the result will report tomorrow or the day after tomorrow. |
| 14:19:07 | funman | ucchan: the other cross compilers are still building ? |
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| 14:23:48 | ucchan | yes. sh-elf ok (1.5/1.7), arm-elf-eabi ok (1.5/1.7), arm-elf (1.7 building, 1.5 not), others not building. |
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| 14:26:45 | funman | I know that amiconn uses cygwin, perhaps he knows the problem |
| 14:33:27 | S_a_i_n_t | He actually mentioned the other day that he doesn't use it often anymore due to its speed. |
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| 14:37:32 | CIA-98 | New commit by funman (r26430): battery_bench: comment the battery_bench.txt header with '#' ... |
| 14:39:31 | S_a_i_n_t | why is it CIA-98 now, instead of CIA-5? |
| 14:39:31 | funman | perhaps they just rotate bots |
| 14:43:45 | * | Zagor reminds everyone the server is going down for maintenance shortly |
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| 14:55:32 | funman | kugel: fuzev1 scrollwheel works fine if I move TIMER2_INTCLR = 0; to the start of the function; but there is no need to do that as acking the interrupt isn't necessary for the timer to continue running |
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| 15:00:05 | amiconn | funman: I don't really use it these days, because a linux VM is way faster |
| 15:00:24 | funman | http://pastie.org/985619 <- this should prevent battery_bench times from drifting, I will test on target |
| 15:00:26 | amiconn | However, I did build all 5 crosscompilers on cygwin 1.7. |
| 15:00:55 | funman | amiconn: did you need ucchan patch? perhaps it's needed only for gcc 4.4.4 |
| 15:01:07 | amiconn | No idea whether they build on cygwin 1.5. I won't bother testing it - it's outdated, and it's not Win7 compatible anyway iirc |
| 15:01:19 | amiconn | For eabi I built 4.4.3 |
| 15:01:27 | amiconn | (weeks ago) |
| 15:03:40 | funman | I realize I have 2 battery_bench entries espaced of 30 seconds, I wonder where that comes from |
| 15:06:01 | funman | In a 8 hours bench starting at t=0, I see: 04:17:14, 04:17:54; then 05:39:57, 05:40:39, and finally 07:40:52, 07:41:16 |
| 15:06:31 | funman | so it's 40s, 42s, and 24s (instead of 60 + a tiny bit) |
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| 15:10:25 | funman | current_tick shouldn't overflow before 248 days |
| 15:18:20 | amiconn | 497 days (it's unsigned) |
| 15:18:39 | funman | ./kernel.h:extern volatile long current_tick; |
| 15:19:27 | funman | signed times are useful for before/after comparisons |
| 15:20:31 | amiconn | Ah, yes |
| 15:21:03 | amiconn | Our TIME_BEFORE() / TIME_AFTER() macros are wrap safe though. Max difference is limited to 248 days, of course |
| 15:21:55 | * | TheSeven heard that promoting the nano2g to stable was proposed for 3.6 |
| 15:22:05 | TheSeven | what are the exact criteria for that? |
| 15:22:40 | Zagor | server shutdown now |
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| 16:12:04 | JdGordon1 | AlexP: I'll wait for more feedback.. if it really looks shit then ill revert it happily... |
| 16:12:23 | JdGordon1 | I have some plans for the progressbar once we get the new skin format goign so ill bring it back then |
| 16:30:19 | Mode | "#rockbox +o Zagor" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 16:30:24 | Topic | "3.6 now branched | Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines | Please direct offtopic/social chat to #rockbox-community | This channel is logged at http://www.rockbox.org/irc | DevCon2010 will be from June 4th to 6th in Ghent, http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/DevConEuro2010" by Zagor (bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) |
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| 16:31:13 | funman | someone want to try an e200v1 thumb build? I think I've found why it wouldn't boot |
| 16:31:37 | JdGordon1 | I can |
| 16:31:41 | JdGordon1 | if I dont need a new bootloader |
| 16:32:02 | funman | nope but it might crash (needs to remove battery?) |
| 16:32:17 | JdGordon1 | bring it on! |
| 16:33:33 | | Nick JdGordon1 is now known as JdGordon (~jonno@123-243-140-31.static.tpgi.com.au) |
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| 16:34:32 | JdGordon | funman: got a zip? I want to goto bed soonish |
| 16:35:06 | funman | yep, building now, i'll have it uploaded in 5 mins |
| 16:37:11 | funman | http://rafael.carre.perso.sfr.fr/rockbox.zip |
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| 16:39:55 | JdGordon | bieber: I've got another idea for the new parser (which you are free to ignore :) ) named optional params... bassically I want to add a few options onto the progressbar that would need special handling to make work... |
| 16:40:54 | JdGordon | one would be a bmp for the "current" spot, another would be bool to show the preset/cuesheet markers, another would be a bmp to use for the markers... all three are optional and any one could be used without the other two... |
| 16:41:08 | JdGordon | adding -'s so the right ones go in the right place is messy... name=value pair optins would be nice |
| 16:41:20 | JdGordon | (I know I poopooed that idea when you though about it... sorry :D ) |
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| 16:42:30 | CIA-98 | New commit by funman (r26431): rolo: use BX for ARM branches ... |
| 16:42:37 | JdGordon | funman: no boot with rolo... |
| 16:42:41 | * | JdGordon gets out the screwdriver |
| 16:42:46 | funman | :/ |
| 16:44:13 | JdGordon | ditto from bootloader |
| 16:44:34 | funman | can you try another build (with single core) |
| 16:44:37 | funman | ?* |
| 16:44:44 | JdGordon | yeah, gimme the zip |
| 16:44:57 | JdGordon | just the rockbox.sansa would prob work |
| 16:45:49 | funman | http://rafael.carre.perso.sfr.fr/rockbox.mi4 |
| 16:47:08 | JdGordon | nup |
| 16:48:23 | kugel | JdGordon: I'm sure you don't need a screwdriver to reset an e200v1 |
| 16:48:42 | JdGordon | power is slower than 4 screws |
| 16:49:02 | JdGordon | +holding |
| 16:49:09 | kugel | 15s only |
| 16:49:39 | kugel | well, you're probably right if you expect to need it more often in the new future :) |
| 16:49:52 | funman | JdGordon: http://rafael.carre.perso.sfr.fr/rockbox.mi4 ? (updated) |
| 16:50:51 | JdGordon | nup |
| 16:51:14 | * | JdGordon even made sure to copy the right file on! |
| 16:52:35 | funman | Bagder: you still have that e200v1 with the JTAG adaptor? |
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| 16:59:06 | Torne | kugel: yeah.. i did :) |
| 16:59:20 | Torne | kugel: is it too late to fiddle with the PLA keymaps more for 3.6? |
| 16:59:42 | Torne | kugel: lots of plugins use PLA_CANCEL for their quit button; only a few use PLA_EXIT at al |
| 16:59:51 | kugel | dunno |
| 17:00 |
| 17:00:04 | kugel | PLA_CANCEL is often the more convinient combo |
| 17:00:11 | kugel | most plugins could just do both I think |
| 17:00:34 | Torne | Yeah.. on ipod it certainly is |
| 17:00:43 | Torne | most plugins previously exited with menu+select, and that's now PLA_CANCEL |
| 17:00:59 | Torne | so the few plugins that *do* use PLA_EXIT now have a different combination to exit |
| 17:01:25 | kugel | IIRC I only used _EXIT when _CANCEL was taken already(?) |
| 17:01:49 | Torne | hm |
| 17:02:03 | Torne | well, if you intended fir it to be that way then it mostly does make sense.. but the names are kinda confusing ;) |
| 17:02:23 | kugel | I only intended to not change too much actually :) |
| 17:02:45 | kugel | I guess _EXIT could work everywhere and _CANCEL when it's free |
| 17:03:18 | kugel | sometimes you have a explicit quit and a goto plugin menu, then _EXIT would be quit and _CANCEL the plugin menu |
| 17:03:23 | Torne | well, i am not as bothered as i was last night when i looked.. |
| 17:03:26 | JdGordon | request for devcon... go through all the open tasks from 06/07 (maybe even 08) and close any that are way outdated...? |
| 17:03:39 | Torne | frotz's keymap has come out very strangely, is all |
| 17:03:59 | Torne | i was a bit confused when investigating because ofd the EXIT vs CANCEL thing.. |
| 17:04:11 | Torne | but it's probably sufficient to just change frotz's buttons |
| 17:04:44 | * | funman just bricked 2 fuzes at once |
| 17:04:57 | JdGordon | mazal tov! |
| 17:05:19 | kugel | funman: what did you do to them? |
| 17:05:30 | Torne | ..hm, or maybe leave it, actually |
| 17:05:34 | funman | modify mkamsboot |
| 17:05:44 | funman | i should have tried on one at a time |
| 17:06:33 | funman | i changed 'mov pc,lr' into 'bx lr' |
| 17:07:28 | funman | in the nrv decompressor |
| 17:07:48 | kugel | ;/ |
| 17:10:05 | funman | perhaps they stored the address without the bit 0 set |
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| 17:11:30 | kugel | I guess ranma will have two new toys soon? |
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| 17:14:17 | JdGordon | 206 open bugs/patches older than june 2008 |
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| 17:14:31 | CIA-98 | New commit by funman (r26432): ARM: use BX when branch to an address in register |
| 17:14:40 | JdGordon | more than 50% of open tasks... |
| 17:14:54 | funman | JdGordon: if there have been comments since then, that means they are still active |
| 17:16:09 | JdGordon | ok, redoing search... |
| 17:16:33 | JdGordon | 78 unchanged since june 08 |
| 17:16:44 | S_a_i_n_t_ | s/active/someone asking for a patch that will probably never be committed to be synced a million times/ |
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| 17:26:14 | vaguerant | kugel: Have you seen this PictureFlow bugfix: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11292?project=1&type=2&pagenum=10 |
| 17:26:24 | vaguerant | There's already a patch submitted for it. |
| 17:27:49 | S_a_i_n_t_ | vaguerant: Is that the "Show album" thing...? That must be target specific, my pictureflow works fine. |
| 17:28:01 | S_a_i_n_t_ | (album title stays where I put it) |
| 17:28:48 | pixelma | S_a_i_n_t_: do you already started a todo list for updating cabbiev2? I might get some motivation during DevCon as I can test on all sorts of targets... |
| 17:28:48 | JdGordon | wtf? does anyone else se their username after (csavery) on that link? |
| 17:28:55 | pixelma | or did |
| 17:29:59 | JdGordon | http://imagebin.ca/view/oH3ODyo.html wtf? |
| 17:30:21 | S_a_i_n_t_ | I never got around to doing a list, I started preparing backdrops when I thought that we'd be doing the FM Radio/Now Playing titles with a text string, but then I talked it over with JdGordon and decided it would probably look shit. |
| 17:30:34 | S_a_i_n_t_ | Errrrr...."bad" rather. |
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| 17:31:39 | vaguerant | S_a_i_n_t_: It's screen-size specific. |
| 17:31:56 | vaguerant | Displays under 100px height have it. |
| 17:33:03 | vaguerant | And that's really damn weird JdGordon, not happening on my end. |
| 17:35:23 | S_a_i_n_t_ | pixelma: basically, it's this: Whatever the FMS needs done, convert volume to use progressbar logic, convert battery to use progressbar logic, see if any targets can gain additional display information by converting a few things to use multifont (track time elapsed/remaining? etc.), make the volume display a numeric percentile whilst volume is being changed... |
| 17:35:35 | S_a_i_n_t_ | pixelma: Do you have anything to add to that? |
| 17:36:26 | pixelma | yes - convert many of the WPS to using viewports first... |
| 17:37:00 | S_a_i_n_t_ | I think be using multifont (smaller font) for time elapsed/remaining, and dropping the progressbar down a little a couple of targets could gain an additional line of disply. |
| 17:37:23 | S_a_i_n_t_ | pixelma: Ah, yes...that would be priority number 1 |
| 17:37:27 | JdGordon | if you want to use different colours in an area which Ideally would be one viepwort then let me know... |
| 17:37:29 | pixelma | JdGordon: I didn't see that in the flyspray task even when logged in |
| 17:37:33 | S_a_i_n_t_ | s/be/by/ |
| 17:38:48 | pixelma | JdGordon: there was a quite detailed timestamp instead |
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| 17:39:06 | JdGordon | thats what I would have expected... I'm assuming firefox bug |
| 17:39:23 | SchroederX | hi |
| 17:39:30 | AlexP | JdGordon: No worries, I'll have a look later if I get round to it |
| 17:39:33 | pixelma | JdGordon: Firefox here too (currently on Mac though) |
| 17:39:45 | AlexP | JdGordon: I like the idea, I just think it probably needs to be turn-offable |
| 17:39:57 | kugel | JdGordon: check your timestamp settings |
| 17:39:59 | SchroederX | I have a question about uninstalling rockbox from my ipodNano2G... |
| 17:40:07 | AlexP | JdGordon: But I guess adding a display it or not tag to the tag can be part of the rework |
| 17:40:52 | S_a_i_n_t_ | I think being able to add it for *specific* presets would be cool also, but perhaps asking too much. Then it would have to differ from the cuesheet logic I suppose. |
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| 17:43:08 | JdGordon | AlexP: yeah, like I said, if it looks shit and people want it removed I will... |
| 17:43:28 | AlexP | yep :) |
| 17:43:36 | JdGordon | making it shown for specific presets... I'm nto sure if that makes sense... if you only care about a few stations, it isnt likely you would have all of them in the preset file anyway |
| 17:44:17 | SchroederX | when I try to uninstall the bootloader with the RockBox Utility it says "unknown version number in firmware (0)" (Translated from german)... |
| 17:44:56 | AlexP | JdGordon: I didn't mean that, I meant that they are either all shown, or none shown |
| 17:45:08 | JdGordon | I know... S_a_i_n_t_ suggested that |
| 17:45:12 | AlexP | ah right |
| 17:45:48 | pixelma | S_a_i_n_t_: convert volume to progressbar needs testing for how it'll look on monochrome/greyscale. The bitmaps there have some kind of right "border" each, not sure how it'll look if that's missing |
| 17:46:54 | SchroederX | what can I do? |
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| 17:47:12 | S_a_i_n_t_ | pixelma: I think that will only be for colour targets, I was thinking the same thing myself. It will look odd as the non-colour targets include the volume "background" in the image also. |
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| 17:47:37 | S_a_i_n_t_ | I think we'll have to give progressbar logic a miss on those taargets...which is a shame :( |
| 17:47:43 | * | FlynDice offers funman condolences on his double fuze tragedy but surmises he might get more sleep now... ;-) |
| 17:48:05 | funman | fuzev2 shows the same 4MB device |
| 17:48:11 | S_a_i_n_t_ | funman: Does that leave you with *any* targets to play with/hack on? |
| 17:48:13 | funman | flydutch: indeed ;) |
| 17:48:15 | * | S_a_i_n_t_ hopes so. |
| 17:48:20 | pixelma | SchroederX: maybe the easiest would be restoring with Itunes. I don't know much about the Nano2g though |
| 17:48:26 | funman | funman: i have the 3 clips up and working |
| 17:48:31 | funman | .. for now! |
| 17:48:48 | JdGordon | S_a_i_n_t_: pixelma: if the backdrop is the lightest grey level and the filled in bar is the darkest, the contrst should be high enugh to make it work no? |
| 17:48:50 | funman | but soon fuze owners will sue my for genocide .. |
| 17:48:51 | S_a_i_n_t_ | I know a lot about the Nano2g, but not anything about RButil output. |
| 17:49:00 | S_a_i_n_t_ | I have never seen/heard of that before. |
| 17:49:11 | SchroederX | pixelma: will that remove the bootloader as an all the rockbox data? |
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| 17:49:27 | S_a_i_n_t_ | SchroederX: Yes, it will |
| 17:49:36 | SchroederX | I'll try now. |
| 17:50:12 | S_a_i_n_t_ | JdGordon: I guess that could work...the bitmaps on some are *very* small though. |
| 17:50:27 | JdGordon | why should it be any different to now though? |
| 17:50:49 | pixelma | JdGordon: that's not the problem and I actually think S_a_i_n_t_ is wrong about the background on volume images, would need to check though |
| 17:50:53 | JdGordon | the only real change is the drawing between min and max... the transparent part stays the same |
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| 17:52:01 | S_a_i_n_t_ | pixelma: I may have described it wrong. It looks odd because the outline of the right side of the volume is included in the image IIRC |
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| 17:52:25 | pixelma | the bitmap is mostly black and dark grey but has a few white and light grey dots to get the same "3D" look as the colour bitmap. But the right side of each form is dark |
| 17:52:27 | JdGordon | hang on.. i have a m ini2g here... we can settle this :p |
| 17:52:47 | S_a_i_n_t_ | I'm looking at the .bmps now. |
| 17:52:52 | S_a_i_n_t_ | Or, almost am :D |
| 17:53:21 | JdGordon | they outline is shown |
| 17:53:23 | JdGordon | that should easily be doable |
| 17:53:31 | S_a_i_n_t_ | Yep, the "background/outline is included in the bitmap |
| 17:53:42 | pixelma | JdGordon: how? |
| 17:53:57 | * | S_a_i_n_t_ doesn't see how either |
| 17:53:59 | JdGordon | so make the outline part of the backdrop, or even as a seperatly drawn image |
| 17:54:27 | pixelma | the outline is at different places (and in different size) |
| 17:54:38 | S_a_i_n_t_ | doesn't that defeat the purpose of saving filesize by decreasing images though? |
| 17:54:39 | pixelma | depending on volume setting |
| 17:54:52 | S_a_i_n_t_ | it's not like any resolution will be gained in these tiny bitmaps |
| 17:55:35 | S_a_i_n_t_ | some of them also include a "!" |
| 17:55:43 | S_a_i_n_t_ | how would that be handled? |
| 17:55:51 | S_a_i_n_t_ | part of the backdrop I assume? |
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| 17:56:10 | JdGordon | havnt we had this discussion a few times already? |
| 17:56:14 | pixelma | that's the ones for +0dB |
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| 17:56:20 | SchroederX | I guess that worked. Thanks and bye. |
| 17:56:35 | JdGordon | %?pv<mute image|%pv|bar.....||0image|>0 image| |
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| 17:56:55 | S_a_i_n_t_ | pixelma: from what I see...it's for "mute" |
| 17:57:05 | JdGordon | ! is for >0dB |
| 17:57:06 | S_a_i_n_t_ | it's at the very start of the image |
| 17:57:36 | S_a_i_n_t_ | *doh*...loooking at it wrong, forgot how bitmap strips work. :P |
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| 17:58:22 | pixelma | it's completely irrelevant where in the bitmap strip those are placed, although getting the order right there helps understanding the WPS |
| 17:58:46 | S_a_i_n_t_ | Is there a "magic" colour for b&w/monochrome? |
| 17:58:50 | pixelma | no |
| 17:59:03 | S_a_i_n_t_ | I'm wondering how the ! could be done with progressbar volume |
| 17:59:45 | pixelma | I don't see that as a problem as JdGordon said |
| 17:59:50 | JdGordon | %?pv<mute image|%pv|bar.....||0image|>0 image> |
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| 18:01:49 | S_a_i_n_t_ | I'd still *really* like to be able to do a bar for >0dB... |
| 18:02:14 | S_a_i_n_t_ | it would make the progressbar logig for volume seem *so* much smoother |
| 18:02:30 | S_a_i_n_t_ | *logic |
| 18:02:59 | S_a_i_n_t_ | If I didn't get it working that one time, it wouldn't annoy me as much |
| 18:03:08 | JdGordon | %bar(type, empty bmp, full bmp, min value, max value, x, y, width, height) ? |
| 18:04:06 | S_a_i_n_t_ | is that a question? |
| 18:04:11 | * | S_a_i_n_t_ fails the parse |
| 18:05:31 | JdGordon | get used to the new skin syntax :) |
| 18:05:53 | S_a_i_n_t_ | I fear the adaptation...I really really do. |
| 18:06:03 | JdGordon | type would be a tag which gives a number value.. i.e %pv |
| 18:06:10 | JdGordon | the rest should be self explanatory! |
| 18:06:44 | * | JdGordon is gone |
| 18:06:46 | S_a_i_n_t_ | "empty bmp" isn't really necessary is it? |
| 18:06:54 | S_a_i_n_t_ | just "bar bmp" would suffice |
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| 18:07:19 | S_a_i_n_t_ | I usually/always actually make "empty bay" from the backdrop |
| 18:07:31 | S_a_i_n_t_ | *empty bar |
| 18:08:49 | S_a_i_n_t_ | Though, I guess the way you just posted would allow for easy conditional placement of the progressbar |
| 18:08:59 | S_a_i_n_t_ | Hmmmmm. |
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| 18:11:49 | funman | [16902.408074] sd 23:0:0:0: [sdf] 16055296 512-byte logical blocks: (8.22 GB/7.65 GiB) |
| 18:11:54 | funman | I call that a day :P |
| 18:14:13 | funman | first bytes are the firmware |
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| 18:15:28 | funman | fuzev2 back to life \o/ |
| 18:15:59 | S_a_i_n_t_ | wow....how? |
| 18:16:21 | funman | e200v2 trick |
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| 18:17:42 | funman | kugel: that fuzev2 exchange still holds? ;) |
| 18:18:05 | funman | http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8792/fuzev2bottom.jpg <- I connected those 2 dots together while plugging usb |
| 18:18:35 | kugel | those? |
| 18:18:48 | kugel | I don't think I connected those when I tried that trick on the fuzev1 |
| 18:19:01 | funman | i don't see something identical |
| 18:19:04 | funman | (on fuzev1) |
| 18:20:01 | kugel | if it still works we can still do what you planned for the devcon |
| 18:20:42 | funman | wait, i need to resolder the battery, plug the button board.. i still have time to screw it up |
| 18:21:07 | kugel | why did you need to remove the battery? |
| 18:21:16 | funman | to be sure it was powered off when i plugged USB |
| 18:21:33 | kugel | a good idea probably |
| 18:21:55 | funman | it should be ok, i resoldered the battery on clipv1 and i think the spacing is larger on fuze |
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| 18:28:37 | Rob2223 | funman: now im at home and the forum is down. is it ok to swap all MI to IM in all microsoft urls? or is there any word border i have to take care? |
| 18:29:04 | funman | Rob2223: start by swapping one |
| 18:29:15 | funman | and the characters you swap *must* be spaced of 32 bits |
| 18:29:31 | funman | the 2 examples i gave you should be representative of what we can do |
| 18:30:38 | Rob2223 | yeah, so the crc sum adds all 32 bit words |
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| 18:33:06 | Rob2223 | "1234""5678" <= when each number is a byte, swap 1 and 2, or 1 and 5? |
| 18:34:03 | funman | 1 & 5 |
| 18:34:12 | Rob2223 | ok thx, will try |
| 18:34:15 | funman | 1+(N*4) == 5 (with N == 1) |
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| 18:40:10 | Rob2223 | well i took a single http://www.microsoft...* url anywhere and changed "m" and "o" and that he still flashes |
| 18:40:40 | Rob2223 | so it isnt a signature or at laset not over the whole firmware file |
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| 18:49:28 | funman | ok, what about the 'Hiphop' change? this one only affects the firmware block (it's what we do for rockbox) |
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| 18:52:57 | kugel | gevaerts: I think I'm done with firmware as well now |
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| 18:55:14 | funman | i found the pins on fuzev1 too : they are on the other side |
| 18:56:15 | funman | didn't try restoring yet, just reading. I tried on a fuze board with LCD connector broken |
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| 18:57:29 | Rob2222 | funman: changed hiphop and Hip-Hop, too he accepted as well |
| 18:57:52 | funman | btw i couldn't go back to an older firmware too |
| 18:58:13 | funman | but from 2.3.33 patched to 2.3.33 patched (diffently, which bricked my fuze) worked |
| 18:58:26 | Rob2222 | yay? |
| 18:58:29 | Rob2222 | wow |
| 18:58:40 | Rob2222 | you tested if he accepts 2.3.31? |
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| 19:01:17 | * | kugel doesn't get it "warning: implicit declaration of function ‘open’" |
| 19:01:19 | funman | nope it bricked first |
| 19:01:37 | funman | clipv1 seems to be able to be unbricked too |
| 19:01:52 | funman | but USB disconencted when i removed the wiring |
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| 19:02:27 | Rob2222 | re |
| 19:02:33 | Rob2222 | :/ |
| 19:03:47 | Rob2222 | funman: ah i git it, you had a differently patched firmware that the player accepted, but it bricked your fuze. :( |
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| 19:04:44 | funman | yes but it's restored now, check the logs |
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| 19:07:03 | bertrik | funman, nice find! |
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| 19:07:52 | Rob2222 | funman: ic, well done |
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| 19:15:45 | thehodapp | when is the next version of RB utility likely to come out? |
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| 19:20:39 | TexasRockbox | I see that someone has brazenly created an iPod theme and posted it in "Themes". Is that now permitted..... (already know the answer) |
| 19:20:56 | S_a_i_n_t_ | TexasRockbox: link? |
| 19:21:06 | S_a_i_n_t_ | I wanna make sure it's not mine |
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| 19:21:43 | S_a_i_n_t_ | If its in Nano I'll be pissed. |
| 19:22:01 | bieber | JdGordon: I'm going to try and make top-level viewports my last change to the parser before I get moving on the GUI base, but hopefully I'll finish that up a lot earlier than I've scheduled and have some time to give named arguments a try |
| 19:22:21 | TexasRockbox | http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?target=ipodvideo |
| 19:22:38 | TexasRockbox | Also in the Cowon D2 themes |
| 19:22:45 | S_a_i_n_t_ | good, it's not my one ;) |
| 19:24:43 | S_a_i_n_t_ | well...not "good", but I'm glad it's not the one I made. It comes with explicit instruction not to associate it with rockbox at all. |
| 19:26:52 | * | S_a_i_n_t_ wonders what happened to the "report" button that used to be on the themesite... |
| 19:27:07 | S_a_i_n_t_ | aha, I'm blind. |
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| 19:28:10 | gevaerts | Yes, please report. The admin side of the theme site is a bit broken, and it makes it really hard to work with non-reported themes |
| 19:28:54 | TexasRockbox | Is there a "report"? I didn't see it (maybe I'm going blind too) |
| 19:29:00 | S_a_i_n_t_ | it's not very good... |
| 19:29:10 | S_a_i_n_t_ | TexasRockbox: I've done it already |
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| 19:30:15 | S_a_i_n_t_ | It uses the "disk access" animation for volume...that's just shabby. |
| 19:30:22 | bluebrother | thehodapp: why are you asking? Do you have a problem with it? |
| 19:30:27 | gevaerts | hm, I can't remember now if the policy was to only reject straight copies or also redrawn ones... |
| 19:30:36 | S_a_i_n_t_ | If you're going to do something, do it well...then *don't* associate it with RB |
| 19:30:42 | * | S_a_i_n_t_ grrrr's at that guy. |
| 19:30:54 | gevaerts | S_a_i_n_t_: is this a clear copy, or is it "inspired by"? |
| 19:31:06 | S_a_i_n_t_ | gevaerts: it uses images dumped from the OF |
| 19:31:12 | gevaerts | ok |
| 19:31:22 | TexasRockbox | When it's named "iPod"..... |
| 19:31:33 | * | gevaerts does things |
| 19:31:45 | bluebrother | bieber: nice work :) |
| 19:31:54 | S_a_i_n_t_ | gevaerts: so, if mine is redrawn (which it is) does that mean I *could* put it up? |
| 19:32:02 | S_a_i_n_t_ | though I realise it's bad taste |
| 19:32:02 | bieber | Thank you |
| 19:32:07 | gevaerts | S_a_i_n_t_: I don't know |
| 19:32:09 | S_a_i_n_t_ | and I wouldn't, just curious |
| 19:32:45 | S_a_i_n_t_ | I remember having this conversation with Llorean, but I can't remember the outcome. |
| 19:32:59 | bluebrother | some comments: IMO it would be better to put extern "C" stuff into the header that exports the symbols. If you guard that with #ifdef __cplusplus it works with both C and C++ and the user doesn't need to worry about that. |
| 19:33:00 | saratoga_ | as long as you're not using stuff from the OF its probably ok |
| 19:33:16 | thehodapp | Well I've got a clip v2 and a sansa fuze v2 which aren't supported yet. I just was wondering would it be released soon..general time period |
| 19:33:47 | bieber | bluebrother: IIRC, I tried that my first time around and it ended up not working: I'll have to give it another try and see what it was I did wrong |
| 19:33:47 | gevaerts | TexasRockbox: thanks for reporting |
| 19:33:50 | TexasRockbox | Even if it's redrawn, isn't the layout and general design copyrighted |
| 19:33:56 | bieber | At the time I just assumed GCC didn't allow it |
| 19:34:03 | bluebrother | bieber: check f.e. rbutil/ipodpatcher/ipodpatcher.h |
| 19:34:13 | bieber | Thanks |
| 19:34:16 | bluebrother | the #ifdef __cplusplus is important :) |
| 19:34:37 | bieber | Oh wait, are there two underscores there? |
| 19:34:43 | S_a_i_n_t_ | thehodapp: fuzeV2 is supported |
| 19:34:43 | bluebrother | thehodapp: clipv2 is supported with 1.2.6 |
| 19:34:48 | S_a_i_n_t_ | it just isn't stable |
| 19:34:50 | S_a_i_n_t_ | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMS |
| 19:34:55 | bluebrother | bieber: yes. Let me double check to make sure :) |
| 19:35:00 | bieber | I think that was my problem |
| 19:36:10 | bluebrother | there is a nice page with compiler / standard / os defines: http://predef.sf.net |
| 19:36:12 | S_a_i_n_t_ | TexasRockbox: IIRC (though, my knowledge is limited) only the original images are copyright. |
| 19:36:38 | S_a_i_n_t_ | A recreation is *teschnically* possible if I understand it correctly, but...it's arguable. |
| 19:36:45 | S_a_i_n_t_ | *technically |
| 19:36:48 | bluebrother | thehodapp, S_a_i_n_t_: fuzev2 is supported in svn, but not with 1.2.6 (unless the wiki page is out of date) |
| 19:37:19 | bluebrother | thehodapp: I'm providing binaries built from svn (done every now and then and completely untested). If you're brave enough you can try them: http://tinyurl.com/rbutil-dev |
| 19:37:39 | thehodapp | Yeah it fails with 1.2.6 but I can still install it manually. It's not terrible. |
| 19:38:33 | S_a_i_n_t_ | so by "not supported yet" I'm guessing you meant by the installer? |
| 19:38:38 | S_a_i_n_t_ | thehodapp: ^ |
| 19:38:57 | thehodapp | yes |
| 19:39:14 | S_a_i_n_t_ | aha...the wording confused me. |
| 19:39:24 | S_a_i_n_t_ | it's obviously supported ;) |
| 19:39:43 | thehodapp | fuze v2? |
| 19:39:59 | CIA-98 | New commit by bieber (r26433): Theme Editor: Added extern C declarations to header files |
| 19:40:18 | S_a_i_n_t_ | yes, but by "supported" I mean, there is a port...there is code, it runs. |
| 19:40:26 | bluebrother | fuzev2 is supported by Rockbox. It is not supported by the latest release of Rockbox Utility. |
| 19:40:37 | S_a_i_n_t_ | not just "rbutil installs it", that's entirely different from supported. |
| 19:40:38 | bluebrother | which hopefully makes the issue clear ;-) |
| 19:40:48 | thehodapp | ok sorry I'm very confusing. that's what I meant |
| 19:41:14 | thehodapp | thanks |
| 19:41:57 | funman | first clipv1 unbricked \o/ |
| 19:42:24 | bluebrother | bieber: you committed a patch by JdGordon recently. Was this FS #11333? |
| 19:42:35 | bieber | Yes |
| 19:42:47 | bieber | Oh, I should mark the FlySpray entry when I do that, shouldn't I? |
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| 19:43:19 | bluebrother | ok. Generally, if you commit a patch from Flyspray you should mention it in the commit comment. |
| 19:43:42 | bluebrother | plus, when committed it would be good to close the FS entry to keep the tracker clean. |
| 19:43:56 | bluebrother | well, or at least to have less dead entries around. |
| 19:44:09 | bieber | Okay, sorry I forgot that |
| 19:44:30 | bieber | I still need to get Zagor to upgrade my Flyspray priveleges, is he around? |
| 19:44:37 | bluebrother | it's not an actual problem, rather an annoyance ;-) |
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| 19:45:14 | bluebrother | doesn't look like. But you can always ask in IRC for someone to close a task for you until that's fixed. |
| 19:45:29 | bieber | Okay, will do |
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| 19:47:02 | bluebrother | an additional idea from my side: what do you think about adding descriptions to the tags? Would make the table display pretty nice for people like me that aren't too familiar with the wps tokens |
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| 19:49:09 | bieber | bluebrother: Perhaps that should be done in comments on the tag table, so it doesn't take up extra memory? Although I would imagine the CustomWPS wiki page would always be a better reference |
| 19:49:43 | * | S_a_i_n_t_ wonders what is happening with the RB-TTS GSOC projest (accronym hell...) it *was* accepted wasn't it? |
| 19:50:03 | S_a_i_n_t_ | I have seen approximately no chatter about it of late. |
| 19:50:13 | S_a_i_n_t_ | *project |
| 19:50:13 | bieber | Which reminds me, when we create a big global variable like the tag table, is that loaded into memory at boot and stuck there at all times, or is it allocated/deallocated whenever it's needed? Or is the compiler smart enough to realize it's never written to and just reference program memory? |
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| 19:50:30 | bluebrother | bieber: well, not sure how to do this best. IMO displaying the skin tree in the final theme editor would be interesting, at least for debugging purposes. For that it would be nice to have a more user-friendly display |
| 19:50:43 | bluebrother | a global variable won't get (de)allocated all time. |
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| 19:51:05 | Drise | Hey guys. Another question, any advice on adding roms for rockboy? |
| 19:51:20 | S_a_i_n_t_ | Drise: Define? |
| 19:51:38 | bieber | Ohh, so you mean an extra description to display to the user. I should probably build a separate table for that within the Theme Editor, so I can QObject::tr all the strings (we do want this to be translatable, right?) |
| 19:51:40 | Drise | I'm looking to add roms for gb/gba files for use with rockboy |
| 19:51:41 | bluebrother | if that variable doesn't change you can (and should) make it const. Then the compiler could even put it into ROM (not that this is possible on a PC, but const data is usually placed in a different segment) |
| 19:51:50 | S_a_i_n_t_ | "put your roms whereever you like" |
| 19:51:57 | bluebrother | S_a_i_n_t_: the TTS project was accepted. |
| 19:51:59 | bieber | C does const? |
| 19:52:02 | Drise | where should i put them if its needed to be specific |
| 19:52:02 | S_a_i_n_t_ | that pretty much covers it. |
| 19:52:08 | bluebrother | bieber: yes. |
| 19:52:18 | Drise | Saint: ok. |
| 19:52:24 | S_a_i_n_t_ | Drise: Put them wherever you want |
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| 19:52:51 | bluebrother | bieber: well, I'm not sure what's the best way to do this. On the one hand it would be nice to have all in the same place. OTOH putting the strings into a c file creates issues with i18n, as you said. |
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| 19:53:43 | S_a_i_n_t_ | bluebrother: Good to know, I haven't seen any chatter about it in here...parhaps I've just missed it. |
| 19:53:49 | Drise | Any advice on what roms to look for, or any limitations that it can handle (Fuze v2)? |
| 19:54:08 | bieber | I _could_ do some typedeffing to put it all in the same place and only do the Qt descriptions when it's compiling as C++ |
| 19:54:13 | S_a_i_n_t_ | Drise: Turn based RPGs seem to work best IMO |
| 19:54:28 | bluebrother | putting the strings in the legal_tags table has another disadvantage: in case that it gets used somewhere else (f.e. in Rockbox) thos additional data might be unwanted. |
| 19:54:31 | S_a_i_n_t_ | also, I don't think ROMS larger that 1MB can be loaded. |
| 19:54:46 | Drise | Alright. |
| 19:55:07 | bluebrother | bieber: it's not really important. Just an idea :) |
| 19:55:15 | Drise | does it handle GBA roms? |
| 19:55:28 | * | bluebrother points to the manual |
| 19:55:43 | S_a_i_n_t_ | DriseL: GB and GBC only |
| 19:55:53 | S_a_i_n_t_ | this info is in the wiki/manual also |
| 19:55:54 | Drise | Whoops, i meant GBC |
| 19:55:59 | Drise | appologies |
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| 19:56:25 | bieber | Okay. I'll probably just add the table to my ParseTreeModel class |
| 19:57:38 | bluebrother | no hurries. Having the other stuff working is more important. User friendly can come later :) |
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| 19:57:46 | bieber | Got it |
| 19:59:05 | bluebrother | another thing I've stumbled across: in case you want to have some property editor for the tags once the GUI is getting more important this could be interesting: http://qt.nokia.com/products/appdev/add-on-products/catalog/4/Widgets/qtpropertybrowser |
| 19:59:53 | Drise | Oh, last thing, does Doom not handle file saving? My fuze locks up everytime i try... |
| 19:59:55 | bieber | Ooh, that must be the widget they use in Qt Designer for widget properties |
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| 20:00:24 | bluebrother | I'm not completely sure (as it's separately from Qt itself), but it looks rather exactly like that. |
| 20:00:46 | bieber | Ohhh, okay |
| 20:00:50 | bluebrother | they have it LGPL licensed, so we could use it. In case it makes sense of course. |
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| 20:04:03 | bieber | Thanks for the help, I've got to go do Memorial Day stuff now. I'll be back tonight to code some more :) |
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| 20:14:48 | funman | http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/4475/backtobusiness.jpg <- jesus clip and jesus fuzev2 |
| 20:15:11 | Battousai | they look more like zombies to me |
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| 20:19:41 | funman | http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/496/sandisksansaclipdisasse.jpg <- for clipv1 i had to connect those 2 pads, but i had to kept them connected. I will try on another clipv1 with battery soldered |
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| 20:20:49 | bertrik | funman, what pin is it on the SoC? |
| 20:21:33 | funman | no idea |
| 20:22:00 | funman | on fuzev1/v2 e200v2 clipv1 the pins are almost at the same location w.r.t the nand |
| 20:22:10 | funman | on fuzev1 / clipv1 they are on the other side of the PCB though |
| 20:22:39 | Zigtown | any advances in the iPod classic department? |
| 20:23:06 | bluebrother | Zigtown: no |
| 20:23:53 | mc2739 | funman: good work - are all of your bricked sansas working now? |
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| 20:26:06 | funman | nope it looks like the other clipv1 is really dead |
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| 20:26:48 | S_a_i_n_t_ | funman: At least when you do something, you do it well :) |
| 20:26:54 | funman | i have a fuzev1 that works but the LCD conenctor is broken, so it's just a USB key, and another one with USB connection fried -> will try to restore at least rockbox on that one: I can still charge and copy files from µSD |
| 20:27:11 | funman | err, already tried. USB is fried so no recovery possible |
| 20:27:17 | mc2739 | I wonder if FlynDice's clip can be brought back to life with this method |
| 20:29:30 | funman | the clip+ he sent to ranma ? |
| 20:29:50 | mc2739 | yes |
| 20:30:45 | funman | I see something similar just left to the down button |
| 20:31:04 | funman | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/pub/Main/SansaClip/sansa_clipplus_3.jpg <- left to the left button, there is a group of 3 resistors, and 2 pads |
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| 20:34:03 | Luca_S | funman: great news :D you guys are amazing... |
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| 20:36:32 | r0b- | well funman i think i know the issue |
| 20:36:39 | r0b- | its a last minute hardware change |
| 20:37:54 | r0b- | thats all i can think |
| 20:37:58 | Rob2222 | r0b-: from where you know? |
| 20:38:11 | r0b- | ? |
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| 20:40:02 | mc2739 | r0b-: which version is your OF? - maybe some disassembly will an additional radio init routine |
| 20:40:17 | r0b- | 1.02.15A |
| 20:40:34 | r0b- | is there a Firmware dumper for Windows? |
| 20:40:54 | funman | r0b-: did it work with a previous rockbox build? |
| 20:41:02 | r0b- | nope |
| 20:41:15 | r0b- | i tried one from a few days ago and nothing |
| 20:41:24 | funman | ok i thought it stopped working |
| 20:41:25 | r0b- | ill try maybe the FIRST rockbox build for the Clip+? |
| 20:41:34 | funman | if you want, it won't harm |
| 20:42:04 | funman | clip+ FM worked in r25190 |
| 20:42:48 | pixelma | what's the problem? |
| 20:43:06 | r0b- | funman could you link me to r25190? |
| 20:43:14 | pixelma | can you dual boot into the OF? |
| 20:43:24 | r0b- | yes |
| 20:43:31 | r0b- | FM works perfectly in the OF |
| 20:44:34 | funman | svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk |
| 20:44:36 | r0b- | the software lock doesnt work either |
| 20:45:01 | r0b- | its a long home press right? |
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| 20:45:14 | funman | in the WPS, with current svn, yes |
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| 20:45:48 | pixelma | hmmm.. if you started the radio in the OF since, then it's not as similar as I thought it could be to the first steps of radio and the c200v1 port. I experienced radio vanishing iin Rockbox back then too but starting the radio in the OF once helped for a while |
| 20:46:39 | r0b- | pixelma this is a Sansa Clip Plust (the newest Clip) |
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| 20:54:05 | topik | home+center on the clip+ |
| 20:54:43 | topik | nope, just home |
| 20:54:44 | topik | sorry |
| 20:54:57 | r0b- | ok that works |
| 20:55:07 | mc2739 | topik: it changed with r26396 |
| 20:55:16 | topik | i'm so behind the times :) |
| 20:56:47 | Drise | I dont remember seeing this in the manual, but is updating to the lastest OF ok? or should i keep the one i installed RB with |
| 20:57:11 | mc2739 | Drise: which target? |
| 20:57:23 | Drise | Fuzev2 |
| 20:57:38 | Drise | installed with .26 and its asking to install .33 |
| 20:57:48 | mc2739 | if you update the sansa OF, it will remove the Rockbox bootloader |
| 20:57:57 | Drise | ok. thanks. |
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| 21:00:03 | r0b- | funman i cant find the firmware for the clip plus in .zip |
| 21:00:06 | r0b- | for r25190 |
| 21:00:35 | funman | i think you have to build it |
| 21:01:16 | r0b- | and i dont have the build tools |
| 21:01:18 | r0b- | forget it |
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| 21:02:15 | funman | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/DevelopmentGuide <- if you don't have a build environment i can't send you patches to test to see if the FM works |
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| 21:04:59 | r0b- | ill setup the Interix enviroment |
| 21:05:39 | funman | i think that is the slowest environment (that's what i read) |
| 21:06:16 | r0b- | wouldnt it be easier for you to send me a patch firmware? for r25190 |
| 21:06:35 | saratoga_ | depends whose time is more useful |
| 21:06:47 | pixelma | I thought it's a bit quicker than cygwin - but it's one of the more unusual environments |
| 21:07:55 | funman | r0b-: no because i don't think it will work anyway |
| 21:08:12 | r0b- | its probably a hardware change |
| 21:08:20 | r0b- | how can i dump my firmware? |
| 21:10:45 | saratoga_ | r0b: utils/AMS/hacking |
| 21:11:10 | saratoga_ | that unpacks the firmware bin file, not sure if thats what you wanted |
| 21:11:33 | r0b- | i dunno |
| 21:11:39 | r0b- | i guess for FM i can use the OF |
| 21:11:57 | vaguerant | Huh, what's it unpack it into. |
| 21:12:19 | funman | vaguerant: ? |
| 21:12:21 | saratoga_ | a bunch of library files mostly |
| 21:13:43 | S_a_i_n_t_ | does "database_changelog" just need to be in .rockbox during database init to autoupdate? Or do I need to "import modifications"? |
| 21:16:53 | r0b- | for FM ill just use the OF |
| 21:17:45 | pixelma | there was one target (the OndioFMs) where they changed the tuner chip at some point |
| 21:17:59 | pixelma | for the better :) |
| 21:18:45 | r0b- | :) |
| 21:19:24 | bertrik | somehow I haven't really been able to get FM working properly on the c200v2 even though it uses the same tuner chip family as other sansas. There are several subtly different versions (different firmware) of the Si4702 tuner chip for example. |
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| 21:30:44 | funman | bertrik: can we somehow show the firmware version in the debug menu, or we must decipher it from the FM regs? |
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| 21:31:44 | bertrik | funman, I think that currently the debug menu does not show anything in the radio debug menu if something went wrong during FM chip detection |
| 21:32:14 | bertrik | It's very easy to decode it from the FM regs though, basically the first two numbers show the chip type and version |
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| 21:33:54 | funman | wasn't the c200v2 problem a tuning problem and not init ? (deadlock) |
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| 21:38:51 | amiconn | Is there someone with an mr100 or YH-920 around? |
| 21:40:21 | * | gevaerts checks if his mr100 has enough power to boot |
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| 21:40:56 | r0b- | bertrik your c200v2 wont let you use the FM? |
| 21:41:01 | r0b- | in Rockbox? |
| 21:41:21 | amiconn | gevaerts: First I'd be interested in test_fps results with current svn |
| 21:42:29 | * | bluebrother can test on mr100 too |
| 21:42:33 | gevaerts | building now |
| 21:42:38 | amiconn | I also have a patch with the greylib optimisation for mr100. For the other mono/grey arm targets I'd need to prepare it, but that should be fairly easy now |
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| 21:43:38 | amiconn | clipv1, clipv2 and clip+ are further candidates (but I guess they are so fast with svn already that the difference is almost immeasurable) |
| 21:43:45 | amiconn | gevaerts: Oh, wait... |
| 21:44:05 | amiconn | You should replace GREY_ON_COP in test_fps.c with 0 in the greylib init |
| 21:44:39 | amiconn | (so greylib runs on CPU.... and we actually get to see the ISR load) |
| 21:44:45 | gevaerts | ok |
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| 21:44:59 | bertrik | r0b-, sometimes it works, often it doesn't, I guess some kind of initialisation problem |
| 21:45:47 | r0b- | so im not the only one :) |
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| 21:47:23 | bertrik | Maybe that's something nice to work on during devcon :) |
| 21:47:54 | r0b- | what does your c200v2 show in System−−>Debug−−>FM Hardware |
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| 21:50:01 | gevaerts | amiconn: test running |
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| 21:50:26 | * | S_a_i_n_t_ has only just noticed that the debug/battery screen counts down "time to full charge" in the estimated time remaining... |
| 21:52:17 | gevaerts | amiconn: I get "CPU load err (boost?)" |
| 21:52:28 | amiconn | Ah, yes, you need to boost manually |
| 21:52:38 | gevaerts | ok |
| 21:52:49 | amiconn | Problem is that the greylib on PP needs to boost always, but only during display |
| 21:53:19 | amiconn | The load percentage measurement works by comparing greylib framebuffer update speed with and without display |
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| 21:53:50 | amiconn | So if CPU speed changes between those two measurements, it will obviously fail |
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| 21:56:23 | CIA-98 | New commit by amiconn (r26434): Smaller & faster greylib blitting on iriver H1x0 and iAudio M5, based on the ARM version but using mulu.l for the bit shuffling. ISR speedup is ~10%. |
| 21:56:44 | gevaerts | amiconn: 1/1: 1052.5 fps, 1/4: 4102.0 fps, greylib 1/1: 200.0 fps, CPU load: 12%, no remote here, CPU: 80 MHz |
| 21:57:16 | pixelma | Llorean: peakmeter in the radio screen only gives sensible information on the hwcodec targets |
| 21:57:44 | pixelma | you can use it on swcodec too but it won't show anything useful |
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| 21:58:41 | amiconn | gevaerts: amiconn.dyndns.org/~jens/greylib-mr100.diff">http://amiconn.dyndns.org/~jens/greylib-mr100.diff |
| 21:59:01 | amiconn | You only need to replace the core after rebuilding |
| 21:59:51 | amiconn | Please check whether it's faster (but 12% isr load is already quite low), and whether it works properly (no negative display, no wrong line order or similar) |
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| 22:00:39 | funman | interesting, the fuzev1 only shows the 1st bank over USB when unbricking |
| 22:00:54 | amiconn | The patch still contains the old code for comparison (#if 1 / #else / #endif) - of course the #else part will be removed before commit |
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| 22:07:21 | gevaerts | amiconn: 1/1: 1051.5 fps, 1/4: 4102.0 fps, greylib 1/1: 204.5 fps, CPU load: 10%, no remote here, CPU: 80 MHz |
| 22:08:01 | gevaerts | cube still looks fine |
| 22:08:52 | amiconn | Ah, so still a noticeable speedup (of the ISR - the overall update speed doesn't change as much because availabe CPU power changes 88% -> 90%) |
| 22:09:02 | amiconn | nice ,thanks :) |
| 22:10:00 | amiconn | (or COP if running on COP... this might be interesting for dualcore plugins like mpegplayer) |
| 22:10:13 | funman | hum the fuzev1 doesn't want to boot the OF : I only see the backlight |
| 22:10:31 | funman | I tried with patched & genuine OF |
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| 22:11:57 | amiconn | gevaerts: You could enter those figures on LcdFrameRate - or should I do it? |
| 22:12:12 | funman | LCD & wheel/buttons work fine in RB, I can browse the disk so I think everything is plugged correctly and partition isn't corrupted |
| 22:13:24 | gevaerts | amiconn: I'm just about to leave my keyboard for a while. |
| 22:13:29 | CIA-98 | New commit by amiconn (r26435): Port the greylib blitting optimisation to m:robe 100. It's even more efficient on monochrome LCDs - about 20% ISR speedup. |
| 22:13:31 | amiconn | ok |
| 22:14:26 | amiconn | Hmm, unboosted update speed would also be interesting for the table (minus greylib, obviously) |
| 22:16:22 | bertrik | r0b-, the first two registers in the FM debug screeb on my c200v2 show 1242 0850 (while the radio is playing fine) |
| 22:16:50 | r0b- | i cant even get my FM to play in Rockbox |
| 22:17:08 | funman | r0b-: is your build environment setup? |
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| 22:17:48 | r0b- | you said it probabably wont work so i didnt set it up |
| 22:18:08 | funman | i said r25xxx won't work but i also said i can't send you patches if you don't |
| 22:18:28 | funman | my patches might not work, but complaining here sure won't work |
| 22:18:38 | r0b- | k im setting it up |
| 22:19:59 | mc2739 | bertrik: I thought you fixed the AMS radio problems at devcon last year ;) |
| 22:20:26 | funman | he'll do it again ;) |
| 22:20:27 | bertrik | mc2739, that was the AMS radio problem on e200v2 |
| 22:20:43 | bertrik | (domonoky's e200v2 to be exact) |
| 22:21:12 | bertrik | hm, can't make it fail anymore on the c200v2 in 5 attempts |
| 22:23:04 | r0b- | heh i forgot i had VMWare |
| 22:23:58 | r0b- | ill use the vmware enviroment |
| 22:24:28 | funman | a VM running linux is better i think |
| 22:24:40 | r0b- | thats what im gonna do |
| 22:25:28 | r0b- | basically this will let me just SVN the source and build |
| 22:25:29 | r0b- | :) |
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| 22:29:48 | funman | bertrik: can the c200v2 be easily opened? would you like to try if the unbrick method works on it ? |
| 22:30:28 | bertrik | funman, yes, it's easily opened, although the case is getting a bit wobbly |
| 22:30:47 | funman | iirc the battery is user replacable, but I don't remember if you can access the PCB |
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| 22:37:45 | r0b- | ok funman after i install the vmware stuff then wat? |
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| 22:38:34 | funman | start by building the revision i gave you, we never know, and you'll make familiar with building rockbox |
| 22:39:19 | r0b- | rev 2519? |
| 22:39:36 | r0b- | or whatever |
| 22:40:04 | bertrik | funman, shall I have a go at trying the unbrick method on the c200v2 right now? |
| 22:40:09 | funman | r0b-: url of irc logs is in the topic |
| 22:40:22 | bertrik | do you know which pins to bridge? do I need to solder anything? |
| 22:40:39 | funman | bertrik: well, if you want to know if the method works on all sansas, why not |
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| 22:40:48 | funman | I just need to find pictures of the PCB to look at |
| 22:41:07 | bertrik | oh I think I still have pictures from an earlier disassembly |
| 22:42:59 | r0b- | ok |
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| 22:43:07 | r0b- | i take it i need the .c and .h files? |
| 22:43:57 | bertrik | oh no, I don't have the pictures. You don't know yet what to bridge, right? |
| 22:44:59 | funman | no but i know where to look |
| 22:45:28 | bertrik | I'll open it and take pictures |
| 22:45:34 | funman | there are some on the wiki already |
| 22:45:54 | funman | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/pub/Main/SansaC200v2/sansa_c200v2_back.jpg the one aligned with the bottom of the connector is a possible candidate |
| 22:46:04 | funman | (2 pins around the bottom left corner of the nand) |
| 22:46:43 | funman | but on the other side seems more likely |
| 22:47:03 | funman | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/pub/Main/SansaC200v2/sansa_c200v2_front.jpg -> on the left side of the nand, at the bottom, there is one resistor and 2 pins |
| 22:47:13 | bertrik | how can I know if it worked? do I see some other usb id or something like that? |
| 22:48:02 | funman | xxd /dev/sdX|head -3 |
| 22:48:11 | funman | if you see 'mkdosfs' or 'fat' or anything it didn't work |
| 22:48:27 | funman | if you see 2 lines of numbers and 0xffffff then you're looking at the start of the OF |
| 22:48:55 | r0b- | ok funman |
| 22:49:02 | r0b- | im getting the latest rockbox from svn |
| 22:52:26 | r0b- | ok now what? |
| 22:52:36 | r0b- | funman can you supply me the patches? |
| 22:52:51 | funman | i have none |
| 22:53:02 | r0b- | where can i get them? |
| 22:55:19 | bertrik | funman, you mean next to the 4th pin from the bottom left of the NAND? |
| 22:55:29 | funman | exact |
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| 22:57:00 | bertrik | so, I connect these two pins, then power it up over and USB? (can I release them after powerup?) |
| 22:57:11 | bertrik | do I need the battery connected too? |
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| 22:58:59 | bertrik | I suppose there's no logo or anything else on the display when in recovery mode, right? |
| 22:59:10 | funman | you can leave the battery connected. just connect those two and plug USB, you can release the pins after a few (I was watching dmesg output in real time and unconnected them as soon as I saw a USB connection) |
| 22:59:14 | funman | right |
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| 23:00:27 | CIA-98 | New commit by rob (r26436): Enable IRAM on TCC7801 (Cowon D2) for a 6-12% speedup in codecs that use it, and a small increase in battery life. |
| 23:01:19 | bertrik | funman, no luck so far, but the pins are really small so maybe I didn't connect them right |
| 23:01:35 | bertrik | next, I'll try the pins slightly higher, they seem to go directly to the nand |
| 23:01:52 | funman | yep just saw that |
| 23:02:06 | bertrik | 6th pin up from the bottom left of the NAND |
| 23:02:08 | funman | perhaps we should first look what the pins are connected to on other models |
| 23:02:20 | funman | ah i was looking under |
| 23:02:46 | funman | hmm no that one, sorry |
| 23:03:16 | funman | on fuzev2 it's not explicit what they are connected to, and on fuzev1 they are not on the same side as the nand |
| 23:03:30 | funman | clipv1 pins are on the other side, too |
| 23:03:45 | bertrik | yay, same pin as the recovery pin for e200v2 |
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| 23:04:27 | funman | nice! |
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| 23:04:38 | funman | I guess m200v4 should work too |
| 23:05:25 | bertrik | wait, it's not working yet, I mean the recovery pins are on the 6th pin up from the bottomleft of the NAND on the e200v2 too |
| 23:06:19 | funman | oops, i scream victory too early. i was just looking at the e200v2 pic and saw that the pins were at the same position |
| 23:07:26 | CIA-98 | New commit by rob (r26437): test_codec: close the log file before attempting to open a new one, and clear the button queue before displaying the menu a second time. |
| 23:07:46 | funman | \o/ |
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| 23:13:17 | bertrik | funman, I'm now seeing a USB device 0781:6200, nothing on the display and a lot of errors in dmesg |
| 23:14:35 | funman | does lsusb say it's M200PLUS Productid ? |
| 23:14:45 | bertrik | xxd /dev/sdb shows nothing |
| 23:15:00 | funman | does the device exist? |
| 23:15:08 | bertrik | no it just says SanDisk Corp. |
| 23:15:29 | bertrik | yes, I have /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc |
| 23:15:47 | funman | on the clipv1 I had to keep the pin connected all the time |
| 23:16:03 | bertrik | xxd /dev/sdb shows nothing and xxd /dev/sdc says "No medium found" |
| 23:16:03 | funman | but then I had no battery |
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| 23:16:18 | bertrik | ok, I'll try that (no battery connected here either) |
| 23:16:25 | funman | try this: |
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| 23:16:40 | funman | sudo su -c "while :;do dmesg -c;read -t 1 && clear;done" |
| 23:16:46 | funman | (press enter to clear the output) |
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| 23:17:21 | funman | when I disconnected the pins i could see immediately USB messages |
| 23:17:27 | bertrik | Can't I just simply 'tail -f /var/log/messages'? |
| 23:18:09 | funman | probably, if you like simple things! |
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| 23:34:36 | bertrik | funman, it seems I can only make a 1-block device appear, keeping the pins connected or not doesn't seem to make a difference |
| 23:34:51 | funman | ok |
| 23:35:24 | bertrik | getting an Vendor "UNDEF" |
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| 23:40:57 | funman | good thing |
| 23:41:02 | funman | i had that too |
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| 23:45:08 | bertrik | I can't get anything useful to work for now, maybe I'll try tomorrow |
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