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| 00:03:29 | kugel | is there a way to di 'if defined(X) || defined(Y)' in Makefiles? |
| 00:03:38 | kugel | do* |
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| 00:15:39 | kugel | hah, Ladies and Gentlemen, RaaA plays sound! |
| 00:15:53 | Bagder | congratulations! |
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| 00:19:45 | kugel | Bagder: thanks! |
| 00:20:49 | gevaerts | Do we get a mail? :) |
| 00:20:59 | gevaerts | Also congratulations! |
| 00:22:59 | wincent | Hooray! |
| 00:23:57 | kugel | I think it's not RaaA enough |
| 00:24:55 | wincent | I would like to add that pdbox is playing all test designs flawlessly on the H300. |
| 00:25:14 | kugel | wincent: nice |
| 00:25:59 | wincent | So, the Pure Data core is ported. From now on, errors therein count as bugs :-) |
| 00:26:56 | kugel | can I make my first bug report? |
| 00:27:09 | kugel | it doesn't run on the other targets :) |
| 00:27:12 | wincent | Of course! |
| 00:27:54 | wincent | It will become rather complicated because of GUI controls. |
| 00:29:34 | wincent | The GUI needs a shift button (meaning that the corresponding switch does not serve any other button) and as far as I can see it is different on every target. The GUI will require some polishing too. |
| 00:30:16 | tom` | kugel: I noticed you're working on RaaA for Android - any idea how hard it would be to port it to a "generic" arm (or x86) Linux? |
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| 00:30:56 | wincent | Apart from that, some parts of the PD core are obsolete. I will elaborate on it on the mailing list. |
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| 00:36:32 | wincent | kugel: pdbox runs also on H100 targets (as far as I know). Feel free to try it with contents of PureData.zip , which is provided on the (GSoC) Wiki page of pdbox. |
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| 00:41:25 | kugel | tom`: with or without sdl? |
| 00:41:42 | kugel | with sdl, not that hard. without there's a bit more involved |
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| 01:57:55 | wincent | If somebody would like to try pdbox, do it with designs from http://pd-anywhere.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pd-anywhere/branches/reware-exhibition/ipod/PureData/ (beware of Daft_Widget.pd and dj_scratch.pd , though −− they make pdbox hang!) |
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| 02:02:38 | Richard_N | I'm trying to create a build enviroment in Ubuntu, and I just did the sudo ./rockboxdev.sh, and it's showing checking for ..., and it looks like it's looping through all the same stuff, how long should I let this run for? |
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| 02:16:18 | gevaerts | That depends on your system, but on slow machines it can take an hour or even more |
| 02:17:47 | Richard_N | ok, cool |
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| 02:18:14 | puetzk | Is rockbox capable of recording/playing at the same time (to record while listening to a click track or similar?) |
| 02:18:41 | puetzk | Sansa Clip+ if it matters |
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| 02:41:51 | tom` | kugel: with SDL - that's good to hear |
| 02:42:05 | puetzk | /topic |
| 02:42:07 | puetzk | oops |
| 02:45:35 | JdGordon | bieber: thanks :) |
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| 02:51:21 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26458): revert an accidental commit in r26078 |
| 02:57:14 | saratoga | puetzk: no |
| 02:57:25 | puetzk | saratoga: thanks for the answer |
| 02:57:30 | puetzk | couldn't find a way in the menus or manual |
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| 02:58:13 | puetzk | But I wasn't sure I'd looked everywhere |
| 02:59:05 | saratoga | in rockbox if something can't be done at the same time as playback, it should just stop playback |
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| 03:01:29 | puetzk | saratoga: which is what it seems to do (other than recording from FM, which can keep playing) |
| 03:03:17 | puetzk | Hmm. I used to just playback from audacity and record the next piece, but the Clip+ seems to have a clock that's inaccurate enough to make that work poorly (the beat drifts noticeably off when I import the recording). It's better at 48kHz than at 44.1, but still too much to piece things together against a click track. Maybe I'll grab the Vmware build setup and see if FS #10906 helps recordings. |
| 03:07:58 | JdGordon | bieber: the editor is looking good :) though it looks like there might be a bug with the viewport change |
| 03:08:11 | puetzk | I am pleasantly blown away by how good the mic is :-) I was expecting something I could practice with, and got... a lot more |
| 03:09:05 | piroko | ARGH. Just found out that my ipod is useless because apple encrypted the firmware on it -_- |
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| 03:48:32 | bieber | JdGordon: What was the bug? |
| 03:48:45 | JdGordon | hey, I've found a few issues |
| 03:49:02 | JdGordon | it seems the gui stops working as soon as a valid viewport line goes in |
| 03:49:09 | JdGordon | I dont know if that is the gui of the parser |
| 03:49:35 | JdGordon | next, the * doesnt allow the braces to be left off completly (1 line fix) |
| 03:50:07 | bieber | Oh, that reminds me, I think you have the * wrong in the tag table |
| 03:50:20 | bieber | It doesn't make anything optional, it just specifies that any optional arguments must be grouped together |
| 03:50:36 | bieber | So if you want everything optional you still need to have a | in there |
| 03:50:38 | JdGordon | and escaped chars dont seem to be parsed correctly... %% is coming up with illegal tag |
| 03:51:16 | JdGordon | was * done so we can do a all or none thing? |
| 03:51:27 | JdGordon | *fIIII was meant to mean either all those params are there, or none |
| 03:51:33 | bieber | Yes, if you want all tags or none of them then just start out with *| |
| 03:51:54 | bieber | But you also have the option of, say, *ii|ii, which would require that either all or none of the optional integers be inccluded |
| 03:53:41 | bieber | And okay, I do see your Viewport issue now. Oddly enough, it doesn't do that if you have other stuff on the same line as the viewport declaration, I'm sure it's in the parser somewhere |
| 03:53:44 | JdGordon | I thought | meant it would accept if any after the bar are missing? *ab|cd to me looks like what I would have hoped) is either nothing or at least a and b, c and d are optional but only accepted if a and b are there |
| 03:54:21 | JdGordon | add text after the viewport and the output is empty |
| 03:54:29 | bieber | Yep, I see it now |
| 03:54:41 | bieber | Heh, I need to take down a list of things to fix tonight |
| 03:54:59 | bieber | It also occurs to me that attempting to specify a negative integer as a parameter will also probably fail miserably |
| 03:56:01 | bieber | And the | just makes everything after it optional, but if there's no * then you're free to stop at any point after the bar |
| 03:56:20 | bieber | So ab|cd would be satisfied by specifying ab, abc, or abcd |
| 03:56:30 | bieber | But if you put the * at the beginning, it has to be either ab or abcd |
| 03:57:17 | JdGordon | right, but I want to say either nothing OR ab OR abc OR abcd |
| 03:58:01 | JdGordon | adding "|| (star && *cursor != ARGLISTOPENSYM)" to skin_parser.c line 413 seems to fix that |
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| 03:59:09 | bieber | So you want * to always allow an empty argument list? |
| 03:59:20 | JdGordon | yes |
| 03:59:58 | bieber | Okay, I can make it mean that if you're sure you'll never want a situation where you have some required arguments and some optional arguments that must always be specified together |
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| 04:00:16 | bieber | If you want both of them to be possible, then we'll have to introduce groupings to the tag format codes |
| 04:01:49 | JdGordon | yeah, I don't think that will be required |
| 04:02:02 | bieber | Okay then, could you just go ahead and commit that change to SVN? |
| 04:02:12 | JdGordon | I'm somewhat surprised *fI|II doesnt just work |
| 04:02:35 | bieber | As I have it coded now, anything before a | MUST be there in order for it to parse correctly |
| 04:02:43 | puetzk | hmm, I get it all set up and then notice FS #10906 is for as3525v1, not v2. D'oh |
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| 04:04:47 | bieber | Other than that, the only issues you've found are failed parsing after a viewport declaration and character escaping not working correctly? |
| 04:05:22 | JdGordon | yeah, so far :) |
| 04:05:24 | bieber | I just confirmed that negative numbers don't parse at all, so I'll be on in a couple hours to fix all this |
| 04:05:52 | bieber | IIRC, there _can_ be negative numbers as parameters to tags, right? |
| 04:06:11 | JdGordon | I want to fix the debug output to be more useful.. right now I've hacked itto show the incorrect tag, but char and line numbers owuld be sweet (leave that to after gsoc though) |
| 04:06:14 | JdGordon | yes |
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| 04:07:14 | bieber | Okay, I'll get it all taken care of tonight. I've got to run for now, should be back in two or three hours. Feel free to commit anything you've hacked up while I'm gone, I'll make sure to svn update before I do anything later |
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| 04:11:51 | JdGordon | bieber: oh the last thing.. is it really necessary for the NEWLINE element to be in the parse tree? |
| 04:13:24 | bieber | I suppose it can be left out now, since we have the LINE groupings |
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| 04:13:42 | bieber | I'll cull that out |
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| 04:17:26 | JdGordon | that should make the tree slightly easier to manage I think |
| 04:17:37 | JdGordon | at least if it will be user visible |
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| 05:49:15 | S_a_i_n_t | <piroko> ARGH. Just found out that my ipod is useless because apple encrypted the firmware on it |
| 05:49:32 | S_a_i_n_t | piroko: You do know that the Nano2g uses encrypet FW right? |
| 05:49:43 | S_a_i_n_t | whoah..."encrypted" |
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| 06:01:50 | Dhraakellian | for per-track albumart, ./filename.{jpeg,jpg,bmp} doesn't include the original file extension, does it? |
| 06:02:38 | * | Dhraakellian is finally making progress on his rockbox moodbar idea |
| 06:03:19 | Dhraakellian | I have a ruby program to render the .mood files to bitmaps of arbitrary size |
| 06:03:59 | * | S_a_i_n_t fails to parse "include the original file extension" |
| 06:04:18 | Dhraakellian | soon I'll need to get around to making a WPS that can make use of them as per-track album art above/below the progress slider |
| 06:04:48 | Dhraakellian | S_a_i_n_t: 01-title.bmp vs. 01-title.ogg.bmp |
| 06:05:01 | S_a_i_n_t | I also don;t really understand "per track" AA, it seems useless to me...per album AA is fine for me. |
| 06:05:33 | Dhraakellian | S_a_i_n_t: well, since the moodbar is a representation of what's going on in the track at a given time, per-track is kinda needed |
| 06:05:44 | Dhraakellian | and, thankfully, supported, according to the manual |
| 06:05:53 | Dhraakellian | and, hey, deja vu all over again |
| 06:06:12 | S_a_i_n_t | the way I see it, all the tracks in an album are going to have the same AA no? |
| 06:06:48 | Dhraakellian | http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Moodbar |
| 06:10:51 | Dhraakellian | and the manual (appendix C in the PDF copy I have open here) appears to indicate that per-track should work |
| 06:10:58 | Dhraakellian | so I should probably just go test it out |
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| 07:11:25 | kisak | there's some dispute between my cousin and I. There is a vibration with his Fuze v1 which is not consistant with the information available ... |
| 07:13:15 | JdGordon | ? |
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| 07:14:22 | kisak | he thinks there is a 1.5" hdd in it |
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| 07:15:05 | S_a_i_n_t | well, there isn;t. |
| 07:15:07 | S_a_i_n_t | simple. |
| 07:15:23 | kisak | indeed ... so where's the vibration coming from? |
| 07:15:39 | FlynDice | his mind...? |
| 07:15:53 | S_a_i_n_t | there shouldn't be anything in there capable of vibrating. |
| 07:15:59 | kisak | I noted the vibration as well a couple weeks ago |
| 07:16:25 | S_a_i_n_t | does the FuzeV2 have that clicky-wheel thing? |
| 07:16:34 | kisak | it does |
| 07:16:42 | S_a_i_n_t | clicky-wheel-spinng thing. |
| 07:16:53 | S_a_i_n_t | and, is it when the wheel is being used? |
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| 07:17:13 | kisak | no |
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| 07:17:19 | S_a_i_n_t | IIRC there's just a little piece of metal that rubs against a tootleh wheel to make that "click" |
| 07:17:26 | S_a_i_n_t | *toothed. |
| 07:18:18 | kisak | well, he's trying to re-confirm this oddity |
| 07:19:06 | pixelma | Bagder: there are currently no swcodec target manuals available on the daily manuals page. I can build e.g. an X5 manual just fine locally so don't know where the problem is. Could you have a look? |
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| 07:19:32 | S_a_i_n_t | kisak: I'd say "if it anint tobacco, don't smoke it" ;) |
| 07:19:52 | S_a_i_n_t | there *shouldn't* be anything in there capable of vibration |
| 07:20:01 | S_a_i_n_t | *'aint |
| 07:20:09 | JdGordon | bieber: I dunno if you're gonna like this... I twisted the param scanning logic inside out so it loops on the tag_args variable instead of the num_args (which I think feels more natural) and I have it working again with *ab|cd where %aa, %aa(a,b), %aa(a,b,c) and %aa(a,b,c,d) all are accepted. |
| 07:20:19 | JdGordon | I'm not sure if %aa() should be allowed |
| 07:21:08 | bieber | I just changed a couple lines that should make it treat the * specifier the way you want it to |
| 07:21:51 | bieber | If you think your change makes it read more intuitively, though, you can commit that. Does it still error out the same way and everything? |
| 07:22:57 | JdGordon | well it is your code so it is up to you :) I think the error handling is the same |
| 07:23:23 | kisak | well ... to end that vibration line of thought ... looks like it was gremlins |
| 07:23:31 | bieber | I'll commit my change now, just try it out and see if it works the way you want it to |
| 07:24:00 | S_a_i_n_t | kisak: Well, you can *definitely* tell him/her that it is FLASH based, no HDD, none at all. |
| 07:25:33 | kisak | now how about a basic port of rb for the ipod classic springing out of a rabbit hole? |
| 07:26:29 | JdGordon | bieber: http://pastebin.com/apbq4e96 ignore the 2nd arg to skin_error() |
| 07:27:03 | S_a_i_n_t | kisak: You're free to do the work on the port. |
| 07:27:25 | S_a_i_n_t | Asking for it won;t help it to happen unfortunately. |
| 07:27:41 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r26459): Theme Editor: Altered the way the parser handles asterisks in the tag argument specifiers |
| 07:29:15 | kisak | S_a_i_n_t: thanks for the reminder |
| 07:29:28 | S_a_i_n_t | anytime ;) |
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| 07:29:53 | pixelma | Bagder: seems it's not "every swcodec target" but everything that comes after the D2 manual. As I remember seeing a similar effect semi-recently, I'm checking the M3 one now which is next in the "list" |
| 07:29:55 | bieber | Oh wait, so now if the * is specified we don't require all the optional arguments to be there? |
| 07:31:56 | JdGordon | bieber: did we have a misunderstanding again? :( |
| 07:32:19 | bieber | I think I've got it straight now |
| 07:32:21 | * | JdGordon tried to remove all ambiuity this morning |
| 07:32:59 | pixelma | Bagder: yep, M3 manual broken and seems to stop "further" manuals. I remember asking Zagor about the build script and he said it doesn't stop building if one manual fails... could it be the upload script then? |
| 07:33:05 | bieber | So basically, a | specifies that anything after it is optional, and a * specifies that you're free to leave off ALL of the arguments including the (), without any affect on whether the optionals have to be included? |
| 07:33:07 | JdGordon | from the begingin I was hoping * and | wouldnt actually change eachother... * was supposed to mean that either use the param list or no param |
| 07:33:18 | JdGordon | bingo :) |
| 07:33:20 | bieber | Okay, I think I have it right now, then |
| 07:33:38 | JdGordon | my test didnt work :) |
| 07:33:39 | bieber | It wasn't doing that in that last commit, but now it is, and I think I'm about to have the character escaping bug fixed |
| 07:33:44 | JdGordon | also there is a minor bug |
| 07:34:26 | JdGordon | I tihnk its a bug... s and f will accept an empty string |
| 07:35:19 | JdGordon | *fII|II doesnt work as expected. |
| 07:35:25 | JdGordon | the | is ignored... |
| 07:35:58 | bieber | That should be fixed in the next commit |
| 07:36:10 | bieber | And do we want to reject empty strings? |
| 07:36:17 | JdGordon | I don't know |
| 07:36:26 | JdGordon | I guess not |
| 07:36:35 | JdGordon | yeah, leave that as a featuer :) |
| 07:42:26 | bieber | When it's scanning a string for a parameter, do you want to strictly enforce what characters can be escaped? |
| 07:42:56 | bieber | i.e., if a string parameter includes %E, should I just go ahead and parse that as an E? |
| 07:43:09 | Speedy2 | Ok, very offtopic, anyone here use RDP? |
| 07:43:29 | S_a_i_n_t | if it's very offtopic...then, why? |
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| 07:43:46 | Speedy2 | Because there is life in this channel. |
| 07:44:02 | S_a_i_n_t | that's not a reason to ask offtopic questions here |
| 07:45:35 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r26460): Theme Editor: Fixed a small bug with asterisk handling in tag parameter argument codes and fixed bugs with handling escaped characters |
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| 07:46:38 | JdGordon | bieber: cheers! quick tests looks good |
| 07:51:02 | CIA-6 | New commit by pixelma (r26461): Correct the iaudio-remote button names which were added in r26377 to make the M3 manual build again. |
| 07:52:11 | pixelma | if the changes in r26377 are in the release branch too, this ^ patch should be ported there too but I don't have the time right now |
| 07:52:56 | pixelma | argh.. unrelated changes included :\ |
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| 07:54:18 | solrize | whee, i bought a refurb sansa fuze from woot but i think they sent me a NEW unit (v2, sigh) |
| 07:54:49 | pixelma | I believe these are correct too, just not mentioned in the commit message. Guess they could stay? |
| 07:55:43 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r26462): Theme Editor: Fixed code generation with escaped characters |
| 07:57:03 | pixelma | AlexP: if you have the time, please port at least the last hunk in r26461 to the release branch if necessary. Maybe also have a look at the other changes as I don't have the time right now. Going to have a look in the evening again |
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| 08:12:20 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r26463): Theme Editor: Removed the NEWLINE parse tree element |
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| 08:15:10 | JdGordon | bieber: code gen bug.. %% add a blank line after it |
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| 08:15:53 | JdGordon | hmm... maybe not |
| 08:16:09 | bieber | You mean the lack of an empty line in the parse tree? |
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| 08:16:57 | JdGordon | %%\nwe <- the text... change "we" on the left and hit update code |
| 08:17:04 | JdGordon | it turns to %%\n\nwe\n |
| 08:17:34 | JdGordon | remove the blank line and hit update code again, it comes back |
| 08:18:03 | JdGordon | clicking enter in the text editor with no text there segfaults ;) |
| 08:18:20 | JdGordon | tell me to shut up and I will :) |
| 08:19:02 | bieber | No, I'm just glad you're finding this stuff |
| 08:19:49 | bieber | Okay, so I've got a rogue newline popping up in code generation, and the segfault thing I think is just another facet of the viewport handling bug I'm working on |
| 08:25:45 | bieber | Fixed the newline issue, now to tackle this viewport parsing nonsense |
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| 08:37:13 | bieber | Wow, that bug turned out a lot easier to parse than I expected |
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| 08:41:43 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r26464): Theme Editor: Fixed bugs in code generation and viewport parsing |
| 08:44:39 | JdGordon | bieber: haha its gone pretty funny now |
| 08:45:28 | bieber | What's gone funny? |
| 08:46:46 | JdGordon | %V(0,0,0,0,0) in the text, parses ok, but then click update code |
| 08:47:25 | bieber | Oh, I see it |
| 08:47:35 | bieber | D'oh, forgot to insert the % |
| 08:52:18 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r26465): Fixed another code generation bug with viewports and enabled negative numbers in tag parameters |
| 08:52:54 | bieber | Okay, that _should_ take care of all the bugs that have come up so far, and finishes off my list of changes for tonight |
| 08:53:53 | JdGordon | bieber: sorry :) Looks like line counting isnt working anymore |
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| 08:54:09 | bieber | Oh, duh |
| 08:54:30 | bieber | I think I really need to get some sleep after this next commit :P |
| 08:54:42 | * | JdGordon will stop finding bugs once it successfully parses cabbiev2.wps |
| 08:55:41 | JdGordon | and comments are adding a blank line |
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| 08:55:53 | JdGordon | after cliking update coe i mean |
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| 09:04:36 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r26466): Theme Editor: Fixed some more code generation bugs |
| 09:04:43 | bieber | Hooray for shotgun commits |
| 09:07:57 | JdGordon | nick off before I post another bug :) |
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| 09:11:16 | JdGordon | bieber: yeah bad news :) a real parser bug.. but I'll see if I can fix it if you are done for the night |
| 09:11:37 | bieber | What is it? |
| 09:12:16 | JdGordon | nested conditionals doesnt parse |
| 09:12:22 | JdGordon | %?mh<hello|%?mh<|>> fails |
| 09:12:24 | bieber | Oh, crap |
| 09:12:32 | JdGordon | %?mh<hello|%?mh<>> works |
| 09:13:55 | JdGordon | I assume it is just a quick line in skin_parse_conditional() to skip over any <>'s when counting children? |
| 09:14:14 | solrize | is that stuff written in lua these days? |
| 09:14:25 | JdGordon | no |
| 09:14:29 | S_a_i_n_t | nope |
| 09:14:39 | solrize | hmm ok. maybe some day |
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| 09:16:10 | JdGordon | solrize: if you want to do it you should be able to get pretty far with the current lua plugin |
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| 09:17:07 | solrize | yeah, last time i hung around here there was no scripting in rockbox and concern over memory footprint... i was interested in adding a small lisp runtime, but now i hear rockbox has lua, which is probably more palatable to lots of folks ;) |
| 09:17:31 | * | kenguest does a double take |
| 09:17:41 | kenguest | there's scripting in rockbox?! :D |
| 09:17:48 | bieber | Hmm, code generation is a mess with conditionals too |
| 09:17:54 | solrize | kenguest, yeah, rockbox has lua |
| 09:18:09 | solrize | it would be cool to scriptify most of the user interface stuff |
| 09:18:22 | solrize | that was hard coded C last time i looked |
| 09:18:27 | JdGordon | still is |
| 09:18:46 | JdGordon | lua will let you do almost anything though.. full drawing and button support |
| 09:19:00 | solrize | oh cool, so it's already integrated with the UI |
| 09:19:35 | JdGordon | no, lua can only be run in a plugin |
| 09:19:45 | solrize | hmm ok |
| 09:19:47 | JdGordon | so you could redo most of the ui in a plugin if you really wanted to :p |
| 09:20:24 | S_a_i_n_t | but...obviously there's little point in doing so |
| 09:20:26 | S_a_i_n_t | ;) |
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| 09:24:14 | solrize | i wonder whether javascript would have been ok since so many people know it |
| 09:24:43 | B4gder | it would not |
| 09:25:08 | B4gder | lua was made to be stand-alone and small |
| 09:25:28 | B4gder | javascript was not |
| 09:25:29 | solrize | i think small js implementation is possible, i just dunno if anyone has done it |
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| 09:26:04 | kenguest | .oO(wow!) |
| 09:26:19 | solrize | i guess i'll read up on lua, i've only looked at it briefly |
| 09:26:21 | B4gder | EVERYTHING is possible given enough effort, that's not what I'm talking about though... |
| 09:26:36 | solrize | http://hedgehog.oliotalo.fi/ <−− this is what i thought of integrating |
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| 09:30:43 | solrize | http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/3894 LTU thread about lua |
| 09:31:10 | B4gder | no need to tell us you know, we already have lua support... |
| 09:31:15 | solrize | hee |
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| 09:35:04 | kenguest | OMG! |
| 09:35:57 | kenguest | solrize: next, B4gder will be saying not to bother reading http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/PluginLua |
| 09:36:05 | kenguest | heheh |
| 09:36:12 | solrize | that pdf is pretty good, i feel like i understand lua a lot better now |
| 09:36:53 | B4gder | well, dropping random URLs with no further explanation or reasoning is always a bad idea |
| 09:37:20 | B4gder | its just noise |
| 09:37:24 | solrize | LTU is a blog about programming languages, i guess i shoulda said that |
| 09:38:21 | bieber | JdGordon: Okay, I got the nested parsing working, now I just have to get it to codegen right |
| 09:38:31 | kenguest | so how long has lua been in rockbox? is it there by default? I mean, I upgraded to rockbox 3.5.1 a month or three ago, so does that mean I can just drop in a lua file and run it on my player or is there more involved? |
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| 09:39:09 | JdGordon | bieber: great :) |
| 09:39:33 | Zagor_ | kenguest: it's been there for about a year |
| 09:40:08 | JdGordon | that wiki page is exactly a year old |
| 09:40:11 | JdGordon | (!) |
| 09:42:03 | S_a_i_n_t | Doesn't the game "boomshine" run in LUA? |
| 09:42:15 | * | S_a_i_n_t thought so at least. |
| 09:43:19 | S_a_i_n_t | aha...it is indeed. |
| 09:43:26 | S_a_i_n_t | "boomshine.lua" |
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| 09:48:49 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r26467): Theme Editor: Fixed parsing and code generation for nested conditionals |
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| 09:51:27 | JdGordon | bieber: quick test looks like it works, real world copy doesnt though... %s%al%?ia<%ia|%?d(2)<%d(2)|(root)>> |
| 09:52:06 | JdGordon | oh hmm.. it doesnt like (root) |
| 09:52:13 | JdGordon | that needs to be escaped? |
| 09:52:40 | JdGordon | (root%) works... |
| 09:53:02 | JdGordon | () should only need to be escaped inside a paramaterised tag |
| 09:53:51 | JdGordon | ah I see why |
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| 09:54:33 | bieber | Oh, I think it bails out on either an ENUMLISTCLOSESYM or an ARGLISTCLOSESYM |
| 09:54:38 | bieber | Want me to drop the latter condition? |
| 09:55:43 | JdGordon | wont that break argument parsing? |
| 09:55:59 | bieber | Oh yes, I think it would |
| 09:56:11 | JdGordon | it should onyl be checking for them if we are inside a param list |
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| 09:57:00 | JdGordon | we can of course make them always need to be escaped if that is better? |
| 09:57:15 | JdGordon | which your code gen does anywa |
| 09:57:28 | pixelma | Zagor_, B4gder: could you trigger a new manual build round - and check why everything following the broken M3 manual is missing too (the other should be fine, I know for sure the X5 manual is)? I remember Zagor_ checked the build script last time this happened, maybe it's the upload script (just a guess) |
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| 09:58:49 | JdGordon | bieber: yeah, I think just force them to always be escaped is the easiest solution everywhere... I'll fix my update program |
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| 09:59:55 | bieber | It's actually an easy fix, because parsing parameter strings and plaintext elements are done in separate functions |
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| 10:01:07 | bieber | Just delete line 607 of skin_parser.c and the line you pasted will work fine |
| 10:01:23 | bieber | I'll commit it tomorrow wtih whatever changes I make, I'm gonna sleep now |
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| 10:01:57 | JdGordon | woo! cabbiev2.wps parses correctly |
| 10:02:04 | bieber | Sweet |
| 10:02:15 | JdGordon | I'm not sure that one line change is correct though |
| 10:02:16 | bieber | Does the tree look correct? And does running a code gen break anything horribly? |
| 10:02:52 | JdGordon | quick glance both look correct |
| 10:03:19 | JdGordon | that one line change means that , is still not allowed in free text inside conditionals |
| 10:03:26 | bieber | Yeah, you should also get rid of the first clause in that conditional |
| 10:04:29 | bieber | That'll be in the next commit as well |
| 10:04:47 | JdGordon | no, i dont like that "fix"... very easy to break it still |
| 10:04:54 | JdGordon | p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; } %s%al%?It<%It|%Fn,> |
| 10:04:58 | JdGordon | note the last comma |
| 10:05:18 | JdGordon | and ignore that first garbage |
| 10:05:59 | JdGordon | escaping all those special chars makes the most sense |
| 10:06:07 | bieber | That probably is the best idea |
| 10:06:31 | JdGordon | great to see the full wps parsed though :) |
| 10:06:43 | bieber | There should be a simple fix for that one too: you probably just have to look a level or two up in the parser, but escaping is definitely the easy way out |
| 10:07:13 | JdGordon | s/easy/correct/ |
| 10:07:24 | bieber | Yeah, that too ;) |
| 10:07:48 | S_a_i_n_t | one of the few situations where *that* will be true ;) |
| 10:08:16 | S_a_i_n_t | (easy/correct being one in the same) |
| 10:09:06 | JdGordon | it does mean that the parser needs a line to make it more strict to force the escaping though... but not a big deal just yet |
| 10:09:52 | JdGordon | haha I completly destroyed my updater though :p |
| 10:09:54 | bieber | Two lines ;) Strings are scanned both in the scan_string function and in the parse_text function |
| 10:10:11 | JdGordon | it escapes those chars everywhere now... doh |
| 10:10:55 | bieber | Honestly, I wouldn't worry too much about forcing it. I figure if the syntax is unambiguous enough for the parser to figure it out, may as well let them use it |
| 10:11:15 | bieber | The HTML3 approach to parsing, if you will :P |
| 10:12:19 | JdGordon | hehe |
| 10:12:33 | * | JdGordon now has a updated cabbiev2.wps parsing in svn themeditor |
| 10:12:47 | S_a_i_n_t | \o/ |
| 10:13:14 | bieber | Awesome :) |
| 10:13:22 | JdGordon | $ diff out.a.wps out.wps |
| 10:13:22 | JdGordon | 24,25c24 |
| 10:13:22 | JdGordon | < %ax |
| 10:13:22 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK JdGordon |
| 10:13:22 | JdGordon | < %Vl(a,105,30,-,90,1) |
| 10:13:22 | JdGordon | −−- |
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| 10:13:22 | JdGordon | > %ax%Vl(a,105,30,-,90,1) |
| 10:13:41 | JdGordon | that is the whole diff between the input and regenned output |
| 10:14:04 | JdGordon | oh HAHA you're going to kill me :D |
| 10:14:21 | JdGordon | it is important that %ax attach to the next tag... |
| 10:14:59 | bieber | Wait, what's %ax do? |
| 10:15:19 | JdGordon | it tells the next tag to align itself with the language direction... |
| 10:15:45 | bieber | Oh, that shouldn't be a problem |
| 10:16:06 | bieber | During rendering, just set a flag when you encounter one and apply it the next time you render a tag |
| 10:16:25 | JdGordon | yeah I guess so |
| 10:16:25 | bieber | If it's not a supported tag, you'll have to throw an error during rendering instead of parsing, if that's alright |
| 10:16:42 | bieber | Otherwise we can just add a hard-coded check in skin_parse_tag |
| 10:17:03 | JdGordon | no, I'll sort it out in the middle step (between parse and render) |
| 10:17:09 | bieber | Okay, sounds good |
| 10:17:35 | bieber | I really will sleep this time, let me know if you find any more bugs |
| 10:17:50 | JdGordon | good night |
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| 10:18:49 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26468): we need to escape more chars now, so fix that. test skins with this update parse correctly with the themeditor :) |
| 10:19:26 | Zagor_ | pixelma: this is what happened: http://pastebin.com/FQv4EFUx |
| 10:20:18 | Zagor_ | plus a bug in the build script that exited on some errors |
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| 10:25:01 | JdGordon | pixelma: what do we want to do about the AA tag... %Cl(15,32,s75,s75), those 2 s's are alignment chars.. really they should be seperate params.. |
| 10:26:17 | JdGordon | %Cl(x,y,width,height,optional x align, optional y align)? |
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| 10:37:59 | r0b- | i cant figure out how to install rockbox via the VMWare Build Env |
| 10:39:21 | JdGordon | r0b-: install it on what? |
| 10:39:29 | r0b- | my Clip Plus |
| 10:40:10 | r0b- | i have the firmware.zip file built |
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| 10:41:57 | JdGordon | can the vm see the clip+? |
| 10:42:02 | JdGordon | you need to share the usb port |
| 10:42:26 | r0b- | i enabled the passthrough |
| 10:42:41 | r0b- | the VMWare build environment for Rockbox is weird |
| 10:43:01 | r0b- | the Clip+ shows in lsusb |
| 10:43:06 | r0b- | but i dunno where its mounted |
| 10:47:23 | JdGordon | what should we do with the alignment modifiers in the %Cl tag which are ignored? just drop them in the update? |
| 10:47:54 | JdGordon | d i s are legal for backwards compat reasons |
| 10:47:56 | tmzt | r0b-: it might not be mounted automatically |
| 10:48:15 | tmzt | if you need filesystem access, use dmesg to see what device it appears as |
| 10:48:19 | tmzt | and mount it manually |
| 10:49:07 | r0b- | Directory sread (sector 0x3b10) failed |
| 10:49:07 | r0b- | hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-1, assigned address 6 |
| 10:49:07 | r0b- | WARNING: USB Mass Storage data in |
| 10:49:25 | r0b- | woop |
| 10:49:26 | r0b- | new USB device 00:07.2-1, assigned address 6 |
| 10:49:26 | r0b- | WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integr |
| 10:49:38 | tmzt | this is dmesg? doesn't look familiar |
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| 10:49:58 | r0b- | Directory sread (sector 0x3b10) failed |
| 10:49:58 | r0b- | hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-1, assigned address 6 |
| 10:49:58 | r0b- | WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured |
| 10:49:58 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK r0b- |
| 10:49:58 | r0b- | USB Mass Storage device found at 6 |
| 10:50:00 | r0b- | there |
| 10:50:03 | r0b- | thats dmesg |
| 10:50:20 | tmzt | what hci does vmware emulate? |
| 10:50:31 | r0b- | ? |
| 10:50:33 | tmzt | lspci should tell you, but don't paste the full thing here |
| 10:50:37 | tmzt | also, pastebin lsusb -v -v |
| 10:51:50 | r0b- | lsusb shows the same stuff dmesg did |
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| 10:53:04 | tmzt | that's the kernel console |
| 10:53:24 | tmzt | dmesg -n 1 |
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| 10:53:39 | tmzt | how are you copying text from vmware? |
| 10:53:59 | r0b- | im using vmware tools |
| 10:54:04 | r0b- | im about to KILL vmware |
| 10:54:19 | r0b- | all i was trying to do was fix a problem in rockbox |
| 10:59:40 | CIA-6 | New commit by jethead71 (r26471): FFT Plugin: Should use scale_factor, not LCD_WIDTH/HEIGHT to break the spectrogram loop. |
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| 11:00:08 | tmzt | r0b-: vmware tools work in console? |
| 11:00:28 | tmzt | why do you need to install from vmware, can't you install from windows? |
| 11:02:04 | r0b- | i gotta get the .zip rockbox's build shit made |
| 11:02:08 | r0b- | from the VM to windows |
| 11:06:56 | tmzt | download sbd.exe and use nc in the rockbox live environment? |
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| 11:07:54 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r26472): backport r26444 ... |
| 11:07:57 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r26473): backport r26438: Italian translation update |
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| 11:17:17 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r26474): Fix version to "3.6RC" instead of svn version + build date |
| 11:17:22 | AlexP | pixelma: I'll have a look when I get home this evening if you haven't got to it already |
| 11:17:30 | funman | do we need to do RC builds? |
| 11:18:24 | kugel | not 1 day before the release... |
| 11:18:45 | funman | why not? |
| 11:18:47 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 36 minutes and 36 seconds at the last flood |
| 11:18:47 | * | kugel wonders if anybody has actually tried the release branch |
| 11:18:57 | * | funman just did |
| 11:19:29 | kugel | we should have RC1 when freezing and RC2 when branching IMO |
| 11:21:32 | funman | I can make bins, put them on my home page, and post on the forum |
| 11:24:15 | funman | bins.pl use 'make -j' , which brings my system down to its knees :/ |
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| 11:25:11 | funman | Bagder: did you see my msg about the e200v1 ? |
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| 11:35:49 | funman | kugel: did you see FS #11267 ? fuzev1 freezes but playback continues, the button led can be activated but not deactivated, and backlight doesn't work |
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| 11:40:50 | funman | backlight is handled in a thread but buttonlight turning on in the tick |
| 11:42:30 | kugel | funman: that's the same freezes I experienced |
| 11:43:36 | funman | how did it happen? i can trigger them with recording |
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| 11:43:52 | kugel | funman: the only possiblity is that there's a dead lock in sd operations, i.e. wakeup_wait never returns |
| 11:43:57 | kugel | I think |
| 11:44:01 | JdGordon1 | what header is toupper() in? |
| 11:44:05 | funman | that's what i'm thinking yes, we could make it timeout |
| 11:44:25 | funman | [fun@kru /media/bordel/rockbox/firmware/libc]% grep toupper . |
| 11:44:25 | funman | ./include/ctype.h:int _EXFUN(toupper, (int __c)); |
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| 11:44:33 | kugel | well, it works on all other targets without timeout so there's something else wrong |
| 11:44:56 | funman | kugel: all others = others AMS? |
| 11:44:57 | kugel | also, how do you know if the transfer finished when the timeout wears off? |
| 11:45:11 | kugel | funman: PP too, no? |
| 11:45:13 | funman | wakeup_wait has a return value |
| 11:45:20 | JdGordon1 | thanks funman |
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| 11:45:47 | funman | well wakeup_wait not returning just indicates a bug in the driver |
| 11:47:39 | kugel | and what would you do in case the timeout wears off? |
| 11:48:26 | funman | retry = true; |
| 11:48:28 | * | S_a_i_n_t is looking at a thread on the forums... |
| 11:48:29 | S_a_i_n_t | I've handled a FuzeV2 a few times, doesn't the OF *always* say "Goodbye" when powering off the unit? |
| 11:48:45 | S_a_i_n_t | Is it possible that the OP has only just noticed this? |
| 11:49:05 | funman | S_a_i_n_t: the message changed in an OF upgrade i think |
| 11:49:05 | S_a_i_n_t | I find it highly unlikely installing RB made the OF gain an additional feature. |
| 11:49:17 | S_a_i_n_t | Aha. |
| 11:49:44 | S_a_i_n_t | He needs to come to terms with the fact that something in his unit has gone boom. |
| 11:49:56 | S_a_i_n_t | It's a shame that he'll blame RB for it though. |
| 11:50:50 | funman | gevaerts: Torne: isn't there some ipod feature that needs to be turned off for the release ? |
| 11:51:07 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26475): change the %Cl tag to be cleaner. it it now %Cl(x, y, width, height [, xalign][, yalign]) ... |
| 11:52:18 | gevaerts | funman: yes, usb |
| 11:53:00 | funman | i'm making testing builds now, could you make the change in export/config so I can see which targets I need to rebuild? |
| 11:53:18 | gevaerts | not now, sorry. Look at the 3.5 branch |
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| 11:54:11 | funman | 4g, color, mini1g, mini2g, nano1g, video <- does that sound right ? (r24350) |
| 11:55:40 | S_a_i_n_t | What is the reason USB gets turned off again? |
| 11:56:12 | funman | Using our own USB code exposes some problems, such as the current charging issues (for many people, charging basically doesn't work) |
| 11:56:29 | S_a_i_n_t | then, I'd leave it for the Nano1g |
| 11:56:34 | S_a_i_n_t | it charges fine. |
| 11:56:38 | S_a_i_n_t | needs less power |
| 11:56:51 | funman | for you |
| 11:56:58 | S_a_i_n_t | I have *no* issues with it in SVN |
| 11:57:04 | funman | IIUC it depends of the charger |
| 11:57:04 | S_a_i_n_t | even charging while using it. |
| 11:57:04 | Torne | It doesn't charge fine.. |
| 11:57:16 | Torne | They *all* only draw 100mA |
| 11:57:28 | Torne | That will eventually charge your nano1g.. |
| 11:57:31 | S_a_i_n_t | well, define "fine"...mine charges in less than 40 mins. |
| 11:57:38 | S_a_i_n_t | from flat |
| 11:57:41 | Torne | I don't believe you :) |
| 11:57:41 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r26476): Use OF USB on the ipods. ... |
| 11:57:51 | Torne | unless the nano1g's battery is *really* tiny |
| 11:57:59 | S_a_i_n_t | Torne: Seriously? |
| 11:58:06 | S_a_i_n_t | 300ma |
| 11:58:15 | Torne | it's a 300mAh battery? |
| 11:58:19 | S_a_i_n_t | yep |
| 11:58:23 | Torne | That should take at least two hours to charge, then :) |
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| 11:58:30 | Torne | You are not charging it from flat to full, if it takes longer |
| 11:58:32 | Torne | er, less |
| 11:58:46 | S_a_i_n_t | 40 mins, unless it reports wrong. |
| 11:58:48 | Torne | with working charging you coul probably do it in well under half an hour |
| 11:58:49 | JdGordon1 | S_a_i_n_t: obey physics... |
| 11:59:31 | funman | i dunno what exactly rockbox reports has the time left to full charge but it's definitely wrong on Sansa AMS |
| 11:59:32 | Torne | 100mA, 5V charging 3.7V nominal, 300mAh, is 2.22 hours assuming linear charging.. |
| 11:59:41 | Torne | which it isn't (it will be slower than that) |
| 11:59:50 | Torne | (but also, flat is not flat, and full is not full, generally) |
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| 12:00:13 | S_a_i_n_t | then it *must* be shutting off too soon and never fully charging. |
| 12:00:19 | Torne | anyway, the point is that "working" charging should generally be somewhere between 4 and 9 times faster |
| 12:00:22 | S_a_i_n_t | as it reports a full charge in 40 mins |
| 12:00:23 | Torne | depending on rockbox's idle power draw |
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| 12:00:59 | Torne | so.. either your nano1g is in fact drawing 500mA in which case that's.. interesting, but you'd have to check it with a meter |
| 12:01:00 | S_a_i_n_t | and that's if RB reports it flat, and shuts down. |
| 12:01:08 | Torne | That's not actually flat, though :) |
| 12:01:21 | S_a_i_n_t | I know, but y'know what I mean :P |
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| 12:01:45 | Torne | anyway, meter it :) |
| 12:02:03 | Torne | unfortunately as far as i know only the ipodvideo has the 4066_ISTAT line available on an ADC |
| 12:02:07 | funman | bins.pl has a 'doonly' variable to build only specified targets but it doesn't seem to be used |
| 12:02:14 | Torne | so all the others, you need a multimeter and a cut-up USB cable |
| 12:02:24 | S_a_i_n_t | Hmmmm, I'll need to dig out the multimeter. |
| 12:02:42 | S_a_i_n_t | errr, probably buy a better one actually. |
| 12:03:18 | funman | hm no i can't read |
| 12:03:21 | Torne | anyway, as well as the charging thing I believe there are still some models where it's noticably faster to use OF USB |
| 12:03:24 | JdGordon1 | funman: it is used if you only want to build one target |
| 12:03:38 | S_a_i_n_t | Well, there is that. |
| 12:03:53 | S_a_i_n_t | Transfer on the Nano1g in particular is a REAL drag. |
| 12:06:44 | Torne | S_a_i_n_t: i'm hoping to sort out USB charging in general (and add support for at least some of the ipod models) at devcon |
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| 12:07:21 | Torne | i don't like the way we control it at the moment but i'm having a bit of a problem nailing down exactly what I *do* like, so i'll borrow some opinions from othe rpeople this weekend ;) |
| 12:09:48 | funman | Torne: i'll tell you what you like, no problem |
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| 12:11:03 | * | S_a_i_n_t doesn't think that'd be appropriate in this channel :P |
| 12:11:08 | Torne | heh |
| 12:11:08 | funman | kugel: recording PCM@96kHz seems to be the fastest way to make it crash |
| 12:12:09 | kugel | funman: for me, just pressing play to resume playback after boot, then quickly enter the playlist viewer and select another track (before the first track finished buffering I think) repro'd it 90% of the time |
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| 12:12:50 | jitu | hi all, need your help in Ipod mini 2g (4gig) |
| 12:12:57 | jitu | my ipod hdd was gone and it was producing disgusting noises .. i can see a sad face on my ipod screen .. and i tried using the hdd with a CF reader .. but no luck .. so I finally decided to go for a CF card |
| 12:13:03 | jitu | I got a Sandisk 4gig card and bt I'm not able to make it work .. :(( |
| 12:13:04 | kugel | sometimes it would only crash playback, i.e. the UI still works, but if I then tried to stop playback it would freeze completely |
| 12:13:48 | kugel | probably it depends on which thread causing the deadlock in the driver |
| 12:14:03 | funman | playing from µSD? |
| 12:14:19 | kugel | I'm not sure but IIRC it didn't matter |
| 12:14:24 | S_a_i_n_t | don't you need a specific revision for a CF'd mini? S_a_i_n_t looks at JdGordon1 |
| 12:14:34 | JdGordon1 | no |
| 12:14:41 | JdGordon1 | CF doesnt need anything to work |
| 12:14:50 | kugel | but now I remember that I seemed to be unable to repro it with dircache disabled |
| 12:14:55 | JdGordon1 | *maybe* the bootloader, but i dont remember |
| 12:15:24 | n1s | jitu: here's a page with some info about cf modding http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CFModGuide |
| 12:16:32 | jitu | humm when I plug my ipod to my ubuntu .. its not able to load it .. throwing errors like "Result: hostbyte=DID_NO_CONNECT driverbyte=DRIVER_OK" in the log .. I can use the same CF card with my card reader .. format it into 2 partition one with type empty and other with fat32 and put the fimware on the partition1 (downloaded from rockbox) .. still after that my ipod doesnt work .. |
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| 12:17:22 | n1s | your computer doesn't show it as a msc device or the ipod doesn't boot? |
| 12:18:12 | jitu | my computer doesnt shows it as it is not able to read the device and but the ipod boots .. first it will come up with a folder with exclamation sign and then Do not diconnect sign |
| 12:18:34 | jitu | but the computer stills doesnt shows it and keep throwing "Result: hostbyte=DID_NO_CONNECT driverbyte=DRIVER_OK" in log .. |
| 12:19:07 | n1s | that sounds to me like the ipod is having trouble with that CF card, maybe someone else knows more |
| 12:19:14 | jitu | humm |
| 12:19:37 | jitu | I have Sandisk Ultra .. 4 gig |
| 12:20:10 | tmzt | where is the iPod running firmware from when you try to connect to it? |
| 12:20:41 | jitu | sorry tmzt, I didn't understand your question |
| 12:21:15 | funman | who is Dwayne Asbury ? (on the wiki) |
| 12:21:28 | tmzt | how are you booting the ipod when you tried mass storage |
| 12:22:35 | jitu | humm actually I am doing nothing .. my ipod circuit board is out .. i just plugged in the CF card (after doing the formatting using CF card reader and running dd if=/media/ipodjunk/mbr-mini2g-4gb.bin of=/dev/sdb1) .. as soon as I connect my data cable .. it boots up |
| 12:23:01 | tmzt | so it works in the iPod disk connect firmware but not rockbox? |
| 12:23:20 | tmzt | can you follow those instructions in the wiki or get the identity information from your host os (won't work through USB though) |
| 12:24:30 | Torne | jitu: the MBR doesn't go on sdb1.. |
| 12:25:04 | Torne | it really should work without preparing the card though |
| 12:25:35 | funman | we can't revert a change in FosWiki ? (except manually) |
| 12:25:43 | jitu | oh is it .. |
| 12:26:40 | funman | kugel: same symptoms with http://pastie.org/988853 |
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| 12:28:07 | jitu | Torne and tmzt .. correct me if I am doing anything wrong .. I got this new CF card .. now I need to have the firmware on this before I use it with my ipod .. so here is what I do .. 1) if I plug this to my ipod .. and connect it with my pc using usb .. my ubuntu doesnt recognize it .. throwing sd 48:0:0:0: [sdb] READ CAPACITY failed |
| 12:28:07 | jitu | sd 48:0:0:0: [sdb] Result: hostbyte=DID_NO_CONNECT driverbyte=DRIVER_OK |
| 12:28:08 | jitu | sd 48:0:0:0: [sdb] Sense not available. |
| 12:28:08 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK jitu |
| 12:28:08 | jitu | sd 48:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off |
| 12:28:08 | jitu | \sd 48:0:0:0: [sdb] READ CAPACITY failed |
| 12:28:10 | jitu | \sd 48:0:0:0: [sdb] Result: hostbyte=DID_NO_CONNECT driverbyte=DRIVER_OK |
| 12:28:12 | jitu | sd 48:0:0:0: [sdb] Sense not available. |
| 12:28:14 | jitu | sd 48:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk |
| 12:28:16 | jitu | 2) so I got a CF card reader and now my ubuntu is able to recognize this 4 gig device |
| 12:28:26 | funman | jitu: please use pastebin |
| 12:28:27 | kugel | funman: I wonder what this caused. I'm fairly sure it's a regression since I don't remember any such problems around when we promoted the fuzev1 stable |
| 12:28:29 | Torne | What is the ipod running, though? |
| 12:28:38 | jitu | apologies funman |
| 12:28:43 | Torne | Did you hold select+play to go into emergency disk mode? |
| 12:29:17 | jitu | nothing .. select+play doesnt do anytihng because the CF card is the new and empty one |
| 12:29:43 | funman | kugel: 13 commits in this file since 3.5 |
| 12:29:44 | S_a_i_n_t | then....? |
| 12:29:56 | S_a_i_n_t | I'm not the only one confuzed here right? |
| 12:30:27 | Torne | select+play disk mode is implemented in ROM and always works |
| 12:30:34 | Torne | it doesn't matter what's on the storage device. |
| 12:30:45 | Torne | If you *don't* press that, then i can't see what it's booting (except the same disk mode, perhaps?) |
| 12:30:47 | jitu | oops .. then it seems like my ipod is screwed .. let me try the same again :( |
| 12:30:51 | Torne | what is on the screen when it boots? |
| 12:31:27 | S_a_i_n_t | yeah, I'm confused by "booting", and "boots" |
| 12:31:40 | S_a_i_n_t | if the card is empty, I don't get it. |
| 12:32:49 | Torne | the easiest way to do this, if you have access to a Windows computer, is to put the card in the ipod, boot disk mode with select+play, connect it to itunes and hit restore. messing about dd'ing bits of mbr and firmware partition onto the card is only worth attempting if the former is just not possible :) |
| 12:35:11 | n1s | i thought it booted into the emergency disk mode automatically if it failed to boot the firmware |
| 12:35:22 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26477): clip int scanning to 15 digits to remove an unecessary malloc(). ... |
| 12:35:29 | jitu | seems like something is screwed big time .. freaking buttons are not working .. with and without the ipod case :( |
| 12:35:31 | Torne | n1s: it will for some errors, yes |
| 12:35:43 | n1s | which reminds me that i should find a ribbon cable to finally fix my ipod mini |
| 12:35:51 | JdGordon1 | jitu: did you snap the wheel cable? |
| 12:36:01 | JdGordon1 | ribbon cable from the wheel |
| 12:36:02 | Torne | jitu: not working how? what are you running on the ipod at the moment? |
| 12:36:03 | jitu | yeah I tried tht too :( |
| 12:36:05 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 12:36:05 | * | JdGordon1 did that fucking 3 times |
| 12:36:07 | n1s | that cable is stupidly fragile |
| 12:36:14 | | Nick JdGordon1 is now known as JdGordon (~jonno@123-243-140-31.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 12:36:33 | n1s | JdGordon: where did you find new ones? |
| 12:36:40 | S_a_i_n_t | s/fragilt/brittle/suicidal/ |
| 12:36:44 | JdGordon | ifixit.com i think |
| 12:36:47 | S_a_i_n_t | all of the above |
| 12:37:00 | funman | kugel: can you try r26163 ? |
| 12:37:47 | funman | this one could only be affected by the udelay() change |
| 12:37:59 | jitu | humm seems like the wheel cable is gone .. when I plug in the usb cable the ipod boots automatically .. but if I try to boot it using the wheel .. it doesnt do anything |
| 12:38:42 | kugel | funman: the problem exists longer than the udelay |
| 12:38:47 | JdGordon | yeah, you broke the ribbon |
| 12:38:58 | jitu | just plugged in the USB cable .. it booted up and shows me the sad icon again :( damn |
| 12:38:59 | funman | kugel: hm you say 3.5 was fine? |
| 12:39:15 | kugel | yes, but udelay came way after 3.5 |
| 12:39:32 | kugel | r26163 doesn't change anything for fuzev1? |
| 12:39:33 | funman | then the problem could be outside the .c file |
| 12:39:34 | jitu | shit man .. i thought I'll try to repair this freaking ipod because its my first one and got it as a appreciation award 6 years back |
| 12:39:45 | funman | kugel: no but r26164 does ^^ |
| 12:40:25 | kugel | no, it's definitely older than r26164 |
| 12:40:32 | JdGordon | n1s: jitu: http://www.ifixit.com/iPod-Parts/iPod-Mini-2nd-Gen#0 looks like they ont have jus the cable so you might need to buy a whole clickwheel |
| 12:40:33 | JdGordon | email them |
| 12:40:44 | kugel | I seem to remember you tried to fix this problem with that commit? |
| 12:42:38 | jitu | thanks JdGordon but I'm in India .. not sure how to get it ship here .. |
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| 12:42:48 | JdGordon | they might ship |
| 12:42:57 | funman | kugel: yes, the exact problem was a freeze when close()ing in test_codec |
| 12:43:01 | funman | test_disk* |
| 12:43:23 | kugel | I thought it could be the same problem |
| 12:43:28 | funman | i have put a timeout in each infinite loop of sd-as3525.c, let's see |
| 12:43:46 | funman | kugel: try to make sd_enable() not disable the clocks? |
| 12:43:55 | funman | it's what i did before adding this delay |
| 12:44:57 | jitu | humm .. Thanks a ton guys .. gotta go now .. I will be back on this forum soon and will update u guys how I fixed it ;-) (If by any chance I can :D) |
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| 12:45:54 | kisak | funman: there was a problem with pointing to 2.03.33 for the Fuzev2 on the wiki? |
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| 12:46:30 | funman | kisak: yep, mkamsboot 1.2 doesn't support it |
| 12:47:07 | * | kisak bangs his head on the desk |
| 12:47:50 | kisak | why does it matter? mkamsboot 1.2 doesn't support the fuzev2 anyway? |
| 12:48:04 | funman | perhaps we should make another release with the fuzev2/clip+ USB detection fix |
| 12:48:10 | funman | it does |
| 12:48:37 | funman | the only problem is that it always detect USB as connected on some models so it always boots to OF |
| 12:48:38 | kugel | release early, release often? :) |
| 12:49:08 | funman | kugel: i wanted to wait USB driver to work :/ |
| 12:49:37 | funman | kisak: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/tags/mkamsboot_1.2/rbutil/mkamsboot/mkamsboot.c?view=markup |
| 12:50:22 | funman | 3.6RC builds (r26476) funman/rockbox-3.6RC/">http://jones.videolan.org/~videolan/funman/rockbox-3.6RC/ - should I announce them on the forum only ? |
| 12:51:08 | kisak | funman: well, fair enough, sorry for the hassle |
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| 12:51:19 | funman | np |
| 12:54:20 | CIA-6 | New commit by uchida (r26478): tta codec: optimize for arm target. pp502x: ~1% speed up. |
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| 12:56:50 | funman | Dunno in which forum i should post, I see no RC builds in Announcements |
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| 12:57:32 | funman | and nothing rockbox/rockbox-dev archives |
| 12:57:47 | JdGordon | official test builds |
| 12:57:59 | funman | "When a new feature needs user testing in a custom build before going into SVN, a thread will be started here." |
| 12:58:24 | Mode | "#rockbox +o funman" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 12:58:43 | Topic | "3.6 now branched - RC builds on http://jones.videolan.org/~videolan/funman/rockbox-3.6RC/ | Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines | Please direct offtopic/social chat to #rockbox-community | This channel is logged at http://www.rockbox.org/irc | DevCon2010 will be from June 4th to 6th in Ghent, http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/DevConEuro2010" by funman (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) |
| 12:58:49 | Mode | "#rockbox -o funman" by funman (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) |
| 12:59:09 | * | funman washes hands - his job's done here |
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| 13:05:26 | ucchan | S_a_i_n_t: May I not commit my yesterday's patch because the change in r26458 ? |
| 13:07:52 | S_a_i_n_t | ucchan: I guess it's already taken care of. |
| 13:08:14 | S_a_i_n_t | the "-j$" was removed, it turns out it was an accidental inclusion |
| 13:08:23 | S_a_i_n_t | "-j4" rather |
| 13:08:35 | ucchan | OK |
| 13:09:29 | funman | kugel: http://pastie.org/988883 |
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| 13:14:46 | ucchan | funman: I applied FS #11335 (thumb-friendly patch) on iPod video. and change GCCOPTS="$CCOPTS -mcpu=arm7tdmi -mthumb-interwork" in configure. Then building failure. (PLUGIN_RAM is full). |
| 13:15:00 | ucchan | Is tmy method of the build wrong? |
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| 13:17:13 | funman | ucchan: yes, some files can not be built with -mthumb |
| 13:17:57 | funman | get the cc-try.py from http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6734 and change Makefile CC=/path/to/ccache /path/to/arm-elf-gcc into CC=/path/to/ccache /path/to/cc-try.py /path/to/arm-elf-gcc |
| 13:18:12 | funman | then run make clean and make normally |
| 13:18:45 | ucchan | funman thanks. I try build using our advices. |
| 13:19:13 | funman | adding only -mthumb-interwork only will just make object files bigger because no thumb code is used, only function 'veneers' for calling to/from thumb |
| 13:23:34 | Rob2223 | funman : could i have 1 minute of your time regarding the fuze firmware diff? you just have to take a look at this screenshot: http://img192.imageshack.us/f/fuzefwdiff.jpg/ |
| 13:24:59 | funman | i see a 'V02.3.33A', is it present in 2.3.31 ? |
| 13:25:17 | Rob2223 | do you think 0x8 and 0x60 is code? cause these values are even for .31 and .33, AND they are even vor .28 and older |
| 13:25:40 | Rob2223 | so this could theoretically match |
| 13:25:42 | funman | i don't think, i know |
| 13:26:06 | funman | use a disassembler for arm code and you will see it |
| 13:26:10 | Rob2223 | but it doesnt look like a opcode |
| 13:26:41 | funman | how should an opcode look like? |
| 13:27:14 | Rob2223 | i expect it to be longer and not so much 00's |
| 13:27:17 | Rob2223 | but i dont know |
| 13:27:56 | Rob2223 | but, as sayes, these bytes are even for all the 2 firmwares the fuse accepts and they are even for the 3 FWs that the fuze doesnt accept |
| 13:28:05 | funman | it's 32 bits and little endian, the difference you see is in the relative address part (the op code starts at 0xB and is: 0xe59ff218) |
| 13:28:31 | funman | try changing it then, if it bricks your fuzev2 you can still open it |
| 13:28:55 | funman | you need to adjust the whole file checksum and the header checksum though |
| 13:29:21 | funman | FlynDice: ping |
| 13:29:54 | Rob2223 | funman: thats what i wanted you to ask, do you think these bytes are code that gets executed? |
| 13:30:04 | Rob2223 | i wanted to ask you* |
| 13:30:21 | funman | 100% sure |
| 13:30:42 | Rob2223 | well then i shouldnt change it blind |
| 13:30:51 | Rob2223 | a pity |
| 13:32:01 | Rob2223 | 0x60 is a normal opcode, too? |
| 13:32:11 | funman | use a disassembler, i don't know |
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| 13:32:22 | jitu | guys I just uploaded the pic of my screwed ipod mini wheel here .. seems like its broken :-( can someone pls confirm http://twitpic.com/1t9799 |
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| 13:32:37 | funman | Rob2223: there's one in /utils/disassembler/arm |
| 13:32:57 | Rob2223 | ah thx for the hint. |
| 13:33:03 | Torne | Rob2223: ARM instructions are all four bytes long, for reference |
| 13:33:03 | Stummi | hello, will there be a rockbox-version for sansa fuze v2 in any time? |
| 13:33:08 | Torne | Rob2223: They don't have seperate opcode/operands |
| 13:33:18 | Torne | Rob2223: And the vast majority of them will start with 'e' :) |
| 13:33:27 | funman | Stummi: check www.rockbox.org |
| 13:34:07 | Rob2223 | Torne: thx 4 the hint. is there a specific program entry point? |
| 13:34:10 | Stummi | funman, there I only found a version for fuze withe the note, that this is not compatible to fuze v2. |
| 13:34:15 | Torne | Rob2223: the beginning? |
| 13:34:19 | Rob2223 | ok |
| 13:34:33 | funman | Stummi: read more carefully |
| 13:34:38 | Torne | I don't know anything specifically about the sansa firmwares |
| 13:34:58 | Stummi | funman, argh, my failure.. found it. thanks :D |
| 13:35:30 | funman | Rob2223: entry point is 0x0 after you strip the header : it's also mapped at address 0x0 in the player's ram |
| 13:35:51 | funman | so the first 32 bytes / 8 instructions are the ARM vectors |
| 13:38:11 | * | Torne feels kinda nerdy for being able to read any of the hexdump. |
| 13:38:49 | funman | Torne: if you can read 128kB of it, i'll have some questions for you at DevCon ;) |
| 13:39:02 | Torne | funman: that would take more time ;) |
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| 13:50:59 | funman | i'm now testing http://pastie.org/988909 |
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| 13:59:57 | funman | 17mins recording fine |
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| 14:00:34 | ucchan | funman: The error occur while building thumb version source. error: see http://pastebin.com/4RMQtQaL |
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| 14:01:17 | funman | ucchan: you modified Makefile after running configure ? |
| 14:01:35 | ucchan | yes. |
| 14:03:31 | ucchan | I try 1) thumb-v2.diff apply. 2) configure add -mthumb 3) executes configure 4) change Makefile. (inserts cc-try.py) 5) make |
| 14:04:08 | funman | don't add -mthumb in configure, cc-try.py will do it when possible |
| 14:04:44 | funman | it tries to build with -mthumb -mthumb-interworking and if it fails it tries only -mthumb-interworking |
| 14:05:05 | ucchan | funman thanks. I try again. |
| 14:05:07 | funman | also I need to use eabi gcc because my not-eabi libgcc doesn't support interworking |
| 14:06:01 | ucchan | ok. |
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| 14:06:23 | funman | if the .c file uses ARM asm building with -mthumb will not work, that's why the cc-try.py script is needed |
| 14:06:43 | funman | other solution is to make a list of files which can be built with -mthumb |
| 14:07:11 | funman | 13:50 < funman> i'm now testing http://pastie.org/988909 <- test_disk still locks |
| 14:17:29 | funman | linux mmci driver doesn't use dma |
| 14:22:06 | funman | hm i spot a nasty (potential) bug |
| 14:22:43 | funman | ah no, wrong alarm :o |
| 14:23:16 | funman | Zagor_: ping |
| 14:26:31 | Zagor_ | pong |
| 14:27:34 | funman | can you bring the e200v1 with JTAG to DevCon? |
| 14:29:24 | B4gder | Zagor_: I could bring it if we can meet up somewhere tomorrow or so |
| 14:29:49 | B4gder | if I can find it at home ;-) |
| 14:30:09 | Rob2223 | funman: have you solved your non-charging fuze? it can be that the charger wont charge it cause the voltage is below safety treshold |
| 14:30:35 | funman | Rob2223: no problem with my fuze |
| 14:30:40 | Rob2223 | ok :) |
| 14:31:11 | Zagor_ | ok |
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| 14:51:18 | kugel | jhMikeS: any ETA on the x86 implementation? :) |
| 14:54:06 | ucchan | funman thumb version Rockbox can build !! very thanks. It succeeded without changing configure. (patch apply, change Makefile, and use arm-elf-eabi). |
| 14:54:40 | ucchan | I try use thumb's rockbox. |
| 14:56:07 | CIA-6 | New commit by jethead71 (r26480): Fix PP5002 builds. Somehow an #else went missing along the line. |
| 14:56:42 | jhMikeS | kugel: hrm...7 days (like the TV show) |
| 14:57:11 | * | kugel doesn't get it |
| 14:57:50 | * | jhMikeS neither (other than it involves time travel somehow) |
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| 15:02:14 | ucchan | oh!!! thumb's version Rockbox does not boot from iPod Loader2 (http://www.ipodlinux.org/wiki/Loader_2). |
| 15:03:32 | FlynDice | funman: pong |
| 15:05:33 | Stummi | btw: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaFuze#Fuze_v2 the attachment-links doesn't works |
| 15:06:05 | Stummi | oh, now it works |
| 15:06:46 | Stummi | a few minutes ago they didn't worked |
| 15:09:23 | ucchan | I use the version that doesn't build thumb enabled. sigh... |
| 15:11:16 | ucchan | funman sorry, I quit soon. Please teach when I login next time if there is a solution. |
| 15:11:26 | S_a_i_n_t | ucchan: Not that it is important, but the page you linked to for Loader2 doesn't even exist anymore... |
| 15:11:31 | S_a_i_n_t | it hasn't for some time IIRC |
| 15:12:58 | ucchan | http://www.ipodlinux.org/wiki/Loader_2/ exists. I visit now. |
| 15:13:15 | ucchan | perhaps ) includes. |
| 15:13:39 | Rob2223 | "There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, or search the related logs. " |
| 15:13:43 | Rob2223 | i cant see it, too |
| 15:14:02 | S_a_i_n_t | Hmm, yes it included the ) |
| 15:14:31 | Rob2223 | ah lol and for me it included the / |
| 15:14:36 | Rob2223 | omg |
| 15:14:45 | S_a_i_n_t | why you'd want to use it is another story :P |
| 15:17:14 | ucchan | S_a_i_n_t: It is easy to start Rockbox and Original Firmware. |
| 15:17:29 | S_a_i_n_t | so's the RB bootloader. |
| 15:17:44 | S_a_i_n_t | but...that's a flamewar waiting to happen |
| 15:18:13 | ucchan | Moreover, even if the start of Rockbox fails, OF can be started. |
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| 15:19:02 | n1s | if the rb bootloader doesn't allow that, it could be fixed :) |
| 15:19:25 | S_a_i_n_t | does it not allow that? |
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| 15:19:37 | S_a_i_n_t | even so "hard reset" anyone? |
| 15:20:17 | S_a_i_n_t | the new bootloader drops quite nicely to dickmode if anything fails booting RB, which is kinda nice. |
| 15:20:41 | S_a_i_n_t | wow, nice twice in one sentence...that was bad. |
| 15:21:03 | n1s | also "dickmode" :P |
| 15:21:12 | S_a_i_n_t | HAHAHAH! |
| 15:22:07 | S_a_i_n_t | c & s are *kinda* close ;) |
| 15:25:50 | ucchan | If the person who is using iPodLoader is a little, it might not be big problem. |
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| 15:26:25 | funman | FlynDice: i think a problem still lies in sd_enable(false), i'm trying some things. Do you remember if we measured the effect of this function on battery life? |
| 15:26:27 | S_a_i_n_t | "a little"? |
| 15:26:44 | ucchan | a little means minority. |
| 15:26:52 | funman | ucchan: kugel and JdGordon have tried PP (arm7tdmi) builds with thumb and it didn't work either |
| 15:27:19 | funman | i have tried on Sansa AMS (arm9tdmi, both armv4t and armv5) and it works |
| 15:27:27 | funman | I hope i can find the problem at DevCon |
| 15:27:40 | funman | i tried single core build : same problem |
| 15:28:00 | funman | i mean JdGordon tried it, i have no PP here |
| 15:28:54 | ucchan | uum i'm tired. then English sentences are wrong more sorry. |
| 15:28:58 | n1s | is there any gain from thumb on targets with lots of ram? |
| 15:29:14 | funman | n1s: see FS #6734 |
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| 15:30:01 | funman | if you can test on other devices it would be nice |
| 15:30:16 | FlynDice | funman: I don't remember anyone measuring that. I think you said that the OF doesn't do that but instead uses the pl180 power saving mode. I'm assuming you're talking about the as3525 v1's? |
| 15:30:24 | funman | i only checked battery life on clipv1 where any difference would be noticeable (it's 8 hours now) |
| 15:30:45 | funman | FlynDice: yeah, v1 - i would like to get this bug fixed in 3.6 |
| 15:31:17 | FlynDice | funman: what bug are you looking at? |
| 15:31:27 | funman | SD freeze |
| 15:31:31 | ranma | funman: Is there anything special to be done to switch to the external SD on Clip+? |
| 15:31:54 | funman | reproducible with test_disk write&verify freezing when closing the file (before verify) |
| 15:32:03 | funman | reproducible with recording PCM@96kHz |
| 15:32:10 | ranma | I've set CCU_IO and GPIOB_DIR and GPIOB bit 5, but I always seem to get a response from the internal SD... |
| 15:32:29 | funman | kugel has another way but it didn't work for me perhaps i'm not fast enough |
| 15:32:38 | * | ranma is trying to get rockbox to boot from external SD... |
| 15:32:48 | funman | ranma: well you are lucky because the SD expert is just here.. |
| 15:33:03 | ucchan | sorry I quit. i prepare to go to bed. |
| 15:33:13 | * | FlynDice looks around for said expert |
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| 15:33:24 | * | funman holds a mirror to FlynDice |
| 15:33:36 | funman | ranma: you set B5 to 0, right? |
| 15:33:47 | ranma | i.e. I added "CCU_IO |= (1<<2); GPIOB_DIR |= 1<<5; GPIOB_PIN(5) = 0x00;" to sd_init_card() |
| 15:34:13 | ranma | (This is the bootloader) |
| 15:35:20 | ranma | Maybe the switching between internal and external SD is also broken on this Clip+? |
| 15:35:58 | ranma | I could try modifying and loading the main rockbox binary instead, but I assume I'd have to enable the SDRAM first? |
| 15:36:10 | funman | afaik it's alerady enabled |
| 15:36:52 | funman | ranma: what makes you think the response is from internal SD ? |
| 15:37:12 | n1s | funman: ah, so basically only binsize savings, which i expect to be most interesting for the targets with very little ram |
| 15:37:29 | ranma | Because the card doesn't initialize. |
| 15:37:36 | funman | n1s: perhaps we can get different results if we fine-tune which files to build with thumb |
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| 15:37:50 | funman | ranma: where's it stuck at? |
| 15:37:52 | n1s | btw, eabi never needs long calls, the linker fixes up short calls that need to be long with a trampoline (IIRC that's what it's called) |
| 15:38:05 | ranma | while (!(card_info[drive].ocr & (1<<31)), it just times out... |
| 15:38:07 | funman | n1s: it was with gcc 4.4.3 |
| 15:38:11 | funman | 4.4.4 works fine |
| 15:38:19 | n1s | weird |
| 15:39:00 | n1s | maybe i could do some testing on sansa c200v1, how does it fail currently |
| 15:39:02 | n1s | ? |
| 15:39:17 | funman | e200v1 just shows black screen, and ipod video too it seems |
| 15:39:57 | n1s | with arm-elf-gcc (4.0.3) or eabi? (4.4.4) |
| 15:40:11 | kugel | n1s: s/trampoline/veneer/ :) |
| 15:40:16 | ranma | I expect that send_cmd() should error out, but that doesn't happen, even if I remove the card. |
| 15:40:19 | funman | my 4.0.3 doesn't have interworking multilib so i only used eabi |
| 15:40:31 | ranma | So I'm assuming it still talks to the (broken) internal one. |
| 15:40:34 | FlynDice | ranma: In order to get the uSD you need to make sure it gets selected with a CMD7(SD_SELECT_CARD) and in send_cmd() you give it drive 1 as an arg. I'm not sure if the GPIOB5 is actually necessary. |
| 15:41:12 | funman | ranma: try to fake a drive0 init (set MCI_CLKENA bit for example) |
| 15:41:28 | funman | FlynDice: but for init you don't have the rca |
| 15:42:55 | * | FlynDice grabs some caffeine & tries to wake up... |
| 15:43:18 | FlynDice | Is the card not initing? |
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| 15:46:02 | funman | ranma: GPIOA_PIN(2) says the µSD is present? |
| 15:47:46 | ranma | Yep: removed: 0xc80b03fc: 00000024; inserted: 0xc80b03fc: 00000020 |
| 15:47:54 | FlynDice | During init I think all you need to do to send the cmd to the uSD is use drive 1 as an arg. If you want to transfer data you need to make sure it gets selected at some point. I think that's more clear than what I said before. |
| 15:48:37 | ranma | FlynDice: Keep in mind that it's the bootloader, so HAVE_MULTIDRIVE is not defined. |
| 15:49:20 | funman | define it in the .c |
| 15:49:48 | ranma | Hmm, can try that... |
| 15:50:03 | FlynDice | ah now I'm catching a clue! But I've got to go now. I should be back in a couple of hours. |
| 15:51:57 | ranma | I'll try loading rockbox.bin directly first, I suppose the bootloader must have already enabled SDRAM at that point... |
| 15:52:59 | Zagor_ | anyone wanna build his "own" dap? http://www.stm32circle.com/resources/stm32primer2.php |
| 15:53:50 | Zagor_ | nothing ground-breaking, but a nice portable package and fairly complete |
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| 15:55:34 | ranma | I wonder though: In send_cmd() GPIOB_PIN(5) is only updated with the drive value if sd_present(SD_SLOT_AS3525). What happens if the last send_cmd() was to external and then you remove it, then nothing switches back to the internal one? |
| 15:57:16 | funman | browsing µSD and ejecting it, the internal storage still works |
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| 15:59:22 | ranma | Depending on how the controller handles multiple cards internally, it could be that the internal card failing prevents me from accessing the external one I think. |
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| 16:07:04 | ranma | Maybe bitbanging the XPD SD-MCI pins directly would work :) |
| 16:10:15 | Zambezi | Anyone here using Rockbox with a Sandisk Sansa Clip+? I want to buy one to have as a spare incase my iPod Mini descides to give up. Cause I love the slot for an extra memorycard. |
| 16:12:22 | evilnick_B | Zambezi: Did you have a question about that target? |
| 16:13:44 | JdGordon | FUCK YEAH! funman: I got clip+ rec mode |
| 16:14:50 | funman | \o/ |
| 16:14:55 | JdGordon | i need a of file |
| 16:15:15 | Rob2223 | http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clipplus&thread.id=5279 |
| 16:15:21 | Rob2223 | OF |
| 16:15:46 | JdGordon | 7min to download from there :( |
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| 16:16:16 | Rob2223 | i just dl it in 10 secs ?! |
| 16:16:26 | Rob2223 | hmm |
| 16:16:50 | JdGordon | which link? |
| 16:16:54 | Rob2223 | Zambezi: well then buy one |
| 16:17:08 | Rob2223 | http://mp3support.sandisk.com/firmware/clipplus/clipplus01.02.15.zip |
| 16:17:22 | JdGordon | funman: have you got the pic still? I'm pretty sure it was your first guess |
| 16:17:48 | funman | http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/5187/sandisksansaclipplusdis.jpg |
| 16:17:53 | JdGordon | international link is currently screwed to .au... so tat would be why so slow |
| 16:18:03 | JdGordon | yep, the red ones did it |
| 16:18:10 | JdGordon | patience and a very steady hand is needed :) |
| 16:18:16 | funman | yeah ;) |
| 16:18:36 | funman | can you upload pic to SansaAMSUnbrick? |
| 16:19:13 | JdGordon | we cant use that pic? |
| 16:20:03 | funman | i uploaded them in case they are removed from imageshack |
| 16:20:35 | JdGordon | ok will do |
| 16:23:52 | ranma | Is the unbrick bridge connected to some GPIO? *idly wondering* |
| 16:25:09 | ranma | The "update button" from the Datasheet presumably? |
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| 16:28:03 | JdGordon | woooo!!!! unbricked |
| 16:28:11 | JdGordon | but a crazy high pitch squeel! |
| 16:28:21 | FlynDice | ranma: Just back for a second, I had this idea I thought may help, define HAVE_MULTIDRIVE and define INTERNAL_AS3525 1 (vs 0) and that may trick it into using the uSD as internal? |
| 16:28:45 | FlynDice | JdGordon: That's you voice dummy... ;-) |
| 16:28:50 | ranma | Assuming that's gpioa0 and gpioa4 you could probably abuse those for a bitbanging serial console. |
| 16:29:09 | pixelma | Zagor_: sorry for late reply - my commit fixed the M3 manual. I just wondered why all "following" manuals were affected too |
| 16:29:19 | JdGordon | time to rebuild my clip+ :) |
| 16:29:23 | Zagor_ | ok. that should be fixed now. again... :-) |
| 16:30:15 | Zambezi | evilnick_B: Well, yeah. How it works with the extra memoryslot, swap card etc. If volume is higher then stock firmware and if radio works good. |
| 16:30:38 | funman | FlynDice: i try to use select/deselect on v1, anything i miss ? http://pastie.org/989082 (no µSD inserted so i just hardcoded INTERNAL) |
| 16:30:55 | ranma | FlynDice: ATM I'm assuming the problem I'm seeing is that the internal SD not initializing somehow also prevents the controller from accessing the external SD completely |
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| 16:33:56 | Rob2223 | funman: do i understand AMSUnbrick right, that these players have a reserved area where the 1st half is that what we have in the *.bin firmware file (without the 0x400 header) and the 2nd half is some data, too? |
| 16:34:23 | funman | Rob2223: yeah, the whole file is there (with the header) |
| 16:34:40 | funman | you can try update to an older OF this way |
| 16:34:54 | Rob2223 | but the 2nd half says in the player (as long he didnt modify it by itself)? |
| 16:34:59 | Rob2223 | yeah |
| 16:35:05 | funman | ? |
| 16:35:05 | Rob2223 | well, ive ordered a 2nd fuze |
| 16:35:12 | Rob2223 | if thats a new one, too |
| 16:35:15 | Rob2223 | i will open one |
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| 16:35:46 | Rob2223 | i mean the firmware.bin fle just takes 1/2 of the reserved space, or? |
| 16:36:07 | funman | yeah, i don't know what's in the 2nd half but the OF uses it (see what i wrote for the fuzev1) |
| 16:36:14 | Rob2223 | yeah i know |
| 16:36:18 | Rob2223 | i read i mean |
| 16:36:30 | Rob2223 | cause of that i think thats some kind of unit specific storage |
| 16:37:47 | Rob2223 | funman: if you need to unbrick a V2, can you dump the whole reserved space, if you havent already don? maybe i need it then |
| 16:37:57 | Rob2223 | from a working unit |
| 16:38:08 | funman | if you need it i'll open the fuzev2 |
| 16:38:33 | Rob2223 | ok, i will decide depended on the 2nd unit i get |
| 16:38:39 | Rob2223 | ty |
| 16:39:19 | evilnick_B | Zambezi: I don't own that player myself, sorry |
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| 16:41:11 | funman | FlynDice: got it! in v1 code i need to set MCI_ARG as flags |
| 16:41:54 | funman | i'll make it like v2 code |
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| 16:46:34 | funman | damn deselecting the card still freezes :'( |
| 16:49:55 | JdGordon | does rbutil support the clip+ yet? |
| 16:53:23 | funman | yep |
| 16:54:22 | pixelma | Zagor_: so most manuals should be available tomorrow again? |
| 16:54:31 | Zagor_ | pixelma: yes |
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| 17:07:22 | JdGordon | the clip fms is empty... |
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| 17:08:29 | funman | works for me ? |
| 17:10:32 | JdGordon | compltly empty for me :/ |
| 17:12:11 | JdGordon | oh /me is an idiot |
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| 17:28:44 | Rob2223 | funman: is there a chance to get from a _working_ unit with a key combo into that recovery mode? the problem is i will loose 2 year warranty, cause of that i try to avoid openting if its not really nessessary |
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| 17:30:12 | funman | if there was a way you think we would probably use it and not open our players |
| 17:31:49 | Rob2223 | i thought: pressing a key on a working unit maybe sets a 0 or 1 to that pin and it goes in a recovery mode. is the unit doesnt boot up anymore maybe that didnt work and you have to force the voltage by connecting the pins. sorry for asking |
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| 17:34:29 | funman | other players have a key combo to enter recovery mode but nobody found one yet on the sansa ams |
| 17:34:40 | Rob2223 | ill try a few |
| 17:37:05 | FlynDice | funman: There should be no need to deselect cards with as3525v1 because each card is paired with it's own pl180 controller. |
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| 17:38:13 | funman | FlynDice: yeah just trying to see why sd_enable(false) cause problems. I was thinking deselecting the card would terminate all communication with the controller if that's the problem |
| 17:39:09 | Torne | Rob2223: It's very unlikely; the pins you bridge are just a gap. It's more likely that on development units the gap contains a zero-value resistor so that development can go through rapid reflash cycles, which is then removed from production units |
| 17:39:12 | funman | the delay i added in 26164 seemed to help (sometimes), but i removed it in r26291 |
| 17:40:35 | funman | while(MCI_STATUS(INTERNAL_AS3525) & ( MCI_CMD_ACTIVE|MCI_TX_ACTIVE|MCI_RX_ACTIVE| MCI_TX_DATA_AVAIL|MCI_RX_DATA_AVAIL)); doesn't help (i expected it but i wouldn't know what else to wait for) |
| 17:41:01 | Rob2223 | wif i just had rockbox like little text on the fuze2 but couldnt read it that fast |
| 17:41:29 | funman | film it |
| 17:41:41 | Rob2223 | Torne: well if its really only a gap then theres no chance |
| 17:41:48 | Rob2223 | funman: must reproduce it first |
| 17:41:50 | Torne | Rob2223: well, that's what it looks like from the pcb |
| 17:42:07 | Torne | Rob2223: you would have to follow the traces to see where they go, to know for sure |
| 17:42:14 | FlynDice | funman: If you want to stop all communication with the controller you can issue a CMD0 which resets it back to anidle state. I'm not sure if that's what you're interested in doing though... |
| 17:42:25 | Torne | it is certainly an SMT-resistor-sized gap with two SMT solder splashes though :) |
| 17:42:27 | Rob2223 | Torne: couldnt it get in the PCB in a lower layer? |
| 17:43:02 | Torne | Rob2223: dunno how many layers the board is :) |
| 17:43:09 | Torne | You'd probably have to remove the SoC to actually trace it |
| 17:43:20 | Torne | which is not really easy to put back afterward ;) |
| 17:43:38 | Rob2223 | lol yeah |
| 17:43:59 | Torne | it's worth doing if someone ever gets their hands on a broken one, maybe ;) |
| 17:44:27 | funman | i have a broken clipv1 |
| 17:45:22 | Torne | well if someone is sufficiently bored to yank the chips off and trace all the not-well-known lines ;) |
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| 17:47:17 | ranma | Ah, I found what I was missing, I have to set CMD_CARD_NO() correctly too |
| 17:48:31 | FlynDice | funman: Have you tried using the MCI_CLOCK_POWERSAVE (1<<9) bit yet instead of sd_enable(true/false)? I tried that way back when but couldn't get it to work. |
| 17:48:53 | funman | nope |
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| 17:49:33 | FlynDice | ranma: That should be set with send_cmd argument |
| 17:50:13 | ranma | Yeah and I was missing that one, it was set wrongly and so it was still accessing the internal card. |
| 17:50:24 | ranma | Now I'm getting somewhere :) |
| 17:50:51 | funman | just checked again that disabling sd_enable() fixes the freeze |
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| 17:55:03 | funman | linux has a comment which says: "clk |= MCI_CLK_PWRSAVE; This hasn't proven to be worthwhile" |
| 17:56:17 | funman | and setting this bit gives me Xfer panic |
| 17:56:38 | funman | linux suspend/resume code only sets interrupt mask to 0 |
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| 18:01:46 | funman | using only MCI_CLK_PWRSAVE has the same effect than doing nothing: test_disk works |
| 18:02:35 | funman | ranma: could you measure power consumption on c200v2 with a patch? just in case battery life is halved or so |
| 18:02:50 | ranma | Sure |
| 18:04:04 | funman | http://pastie.org/989208 |
| 18:04:41 | funman | i can run battery_bench with this & with just returning but i would like to know before release ;) |
| 18:05:04 | ranma | Hmm, bootloader seems to work now, but rockbox complains "No partition found. Insert USB cable and fix it." |
| 18:05:45 | funman | how is the SD formatted? |
| 18:05:56 | funman | ranma: hm did you remove the AMS_OF_SIZE skip for drive 0 ? |
| 18:06:08 | ranma | It set AMS_OF_SIZE to 0 |
| 18:06:10 | ranma | -t |
| 18:06:19 | ranma | SD is "mkdosfs /dev/sdc" |
| 18:06:33 | funman | no -I ? |
| 18:06:48 | ranma | Including -I :) |
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| 18:07:19 | ranma | Does it have to be FAT16 or something? |
| 18:07:37 | funman | nope |
| 18:07:47 | funman | mkfs.vfat -F 32 -I works for me |
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| 18:14:34 | funman | ranma: i have another (better?) patch, let me test it first |
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| 18:23:25 | funman | ranma: http://pastie.org/989245 :just disable the clock instead of setting powersave bit (with unrelated diff) |
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| 18:36:27 | funman | just removing the CGU_IDE bit seems to work too |
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| 18:49:00 | kisak | so most manuals are missing and this is known and expected for the moment |
| 18:49:08 | S_a_i_n_t | yeppers |
| 18:49:16 | kisak | I must have missed the memo |
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| 18:49:55 | S_a_i_n_t | there wasn't really a "memo", I just caught a message from pixelma to Zagor earlier |
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| 18:50:35 | kisak | do we keep any archived versions? or do should I hop over to waybackmachine? |
| 18:50:45 | kisak | -do |
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| 18:51:09 | S_a_i_n_t | Is that the "royal we" ;) |
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| 18:51:29 | pixelma | I hoped that he could run an "unscheduled" build round to make them available today :) |
| 18:51:50 | kisak | no, it's the communal peon we |
| 18:52:44 | kisak | my mistake, plebian |
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| 18:54:17 | kisak | isn't that nice ... wayback machine is down |
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| 18:58:35 | funman | http://pastie.org/989284 <- works on fuzev1 |
| 18:59:27 | funman | test_disk is finishing to compare, i'll see if µSD is still fine, try recording for 1 hour .. and commit to branch |
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| 19:01:52 | funman | argl: Test passed. but it froze |
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| 19:04:16 | pixelma | kisak: unfortunately it had been broken for more than three days and unfortunately we only seem to keep the last three dailies of everything. Otherwise there should be old ones at least on download.rockbox.org. In the past not all mirrors cleaned up as regularly and you could find even older versions there (if you are lucky there might still be one mirror out there that still does) |
| 19:04:32 | Jerom | funman: Hi, you wrote that it took more than 24 hours to discharge your Fuze |
| 19:04:46 | Jerom | How was your battery level at that time ? |
| 19:04:47 | funman | v2 yes |
| 19:04:56 | funman | almost full iirc |
| 19:05:28 | Jerom | Almost waited for 48 hours here |
| 19:05:45 | funman | that was about it |
| 19:05:54 | gevaerts | kisak: http://download.rockbox.org/release/3.5/ has the manuals for the last release |
| 19:06:54 | Jerom | ok thanks, because I'm tired of waiting ^^ |
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| 19:09:20 | funman | Jerom: i plugged headphones to see if there was some juice |
| 19:09:54 | Jerom | funman: I still ear some "clics" when I plugged them in |
| 19:10:16 | funman | then its' on |
| 19:10:36 | FlynDice | funman: I've got sd_enable disabled and I'm able to read from sd with the MCI_CLOCK_POWERSAVE bit set but writing is getting panics. I think it was the interaction with sd_enable that prevented using it befor. |
| 19:10:42 | funman | thermodynamics law say it will discharge |
| 19:11:26 | Jerom | :p |
| 19:11:30 | funman | FlynDice: if we can disable fully the clock while not using it, perhaps powersave is not worth looking at ? (that's what linux source seesm to say) |
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| 19:13:54 | FlynDice | Yes , I just saw that your last try froze and was thinking if we can make this simpler with the MCI_CLOCK_POWERSAVE bit there may be less chance to freeze? |
| 19:14:37 | funman | FlynDice: my last try while with mixing current code with MCI_CLOCK_ENABLE |
| 19:14:49 | funman | afaict changing MCI_CLOCK_ENABLE bit alone worked |
| 19:15:02 | FlynDice | [10:02] <funman> argl: Test passed. but it froze |
| 19:15:43 | funman | yeah that one |
| 19:16:03 | funman | with the pastie i pasted 2 lines before |
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| 19:19:24 | FlynDice | funman: So did I misunderstand then, it works fine? |
| 19:19:55 | funman | http://pastie.org/989245 worked every time i tried it in test_disk(1 or 2 times?) |
| 19:20:54 | FlynDice | ok then, nevermind me then.... |
| 19:22:24 | ranma | Hmm, somehow 4bit mode is broken on the microsd slot. |
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| 19:28:09 | funman | kugel: (for the logs) I just noticed we use brightness*10 for the fuzev2 steps but the register setting is in steps of 8 (bits 2:0 unused) |
| 19:28:50 | ranma | Yay, it booted and played mp3 until rb decided to shutdown because the unconnected battery is empty (was powered over usb) |
| 19:29:11 | funman | (stupid rockbox) |
| 19:32:15 | funman | if i comment out CGU_NAF_CLOCK_ENABLE & CGU_IDE bits in sd_enable() it still freezews |
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| 19:37:47 | * | r0b- needs to test his change to the AMS FM Radio |
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| 19:46:34 | funman | if i comment out everything else, the same |
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| 19:48:14 | r0b- | funman could you impliment the change you suggested? |
| 19:48:49 | r0b- | about moving the ClipPlus to the Fuze v2's init? |
| 19:48:54 | r0b- | for the fmradio |
| 19:48:59 | funman | does it work? |
| 19:49:08 | r0b- | i havent tried |
| 19:49:22 | * | r0b- cant seem to get rockbox from the vm env to his Clip Plus |
| 19:50:14 | r0b- | but if you change the lines i will try it and if it does not work you can revert it |
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| 19:50:30 | funman | no |
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| 19:51:52 | r0b- | how can i get my custon rockbox from the vm to the target? |
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| 19:52:21 | funman | see the doc of your vm |
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| 19:53:01 | r0b- | im using the rockbox build environment VM |
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| 19:53:52 | amiconn | What I am doing is exporting my home dir from within the VM to the host, then mapping a drive |
| 19:54:02 | bertrik | r0b-, maybe I could do make some test builds for you. What target do you have? Do you have a patch I could apply? |
| 19:54:18 | funman | FlynDice: http://pastie.org/989353 works |
| 19:54:29 | r0b- | bertrik its not a patch |
| 19:54:34 | funman | ranma: ^ can you check if this patch gives too much power consumption ? |
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| 20:09:42 | S_a_i_n_t | r0b-: Can't you just search the drive for "rockbox.zip"? |
| 20:09:54 | S_a_i_n_t | Seems like the sensible (or easy) thing to do. |
| 20:10:18 | S_a_i_n_t | find it, right click...bingo. |
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| 20:17:49 | bertrik | funman, do you have documentation for the CCU_IO register is the fuzev2 (and the clip+)? Bit 12 is being set in the fmradio i2c driver |
| 20:18:09 | funman | bertrik: no, the as3543 only covers i2c registers |
| 20:18:21 | funman | it's also used in buttons & lcd i think |
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| 20:27:17 | r0b- | 0005 9000 F080 0104 |
| 20:27:23 | r0b- | thats the regs for this fm chip |
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| 20:28:23 | funman | does it work? |
| 20:28:32 | r0b- | nope |
| 20:28:39 | funman | then that's not the regs |
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| 20:28:59 | funman | first there are more and then they should start with '1242' |
| 20:29:31 | funman | try power off/on and see if that changes completely |
| 20:30:32 | r0b- | the first set of digits of each set 1st0005 2nd00F1 3rd5594 4th5803 |
| 20:30:46 | r0b- | the first set of digits for the 4 different rows |
| 20:30:55 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r26481): as3525v1: do not disable clocks in sd_enable() ... |
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| 20:32:40 | funman | battery bench takes 14hours or so, i can have results tomorrow |
| 20:33:00 | bertrik | funman, I wonder if maybe the clip+ also needs the CCU_IO thing (bit12) that the fuzev2 does |
| 20:33:17 | TexasRockbox | Hello, are the new changes to the theme code ready to use in the current build? |
| 20:33:17 | funman | bertrik: i think that's what r0b- is trying |
| 20:33:53 | bertrik | he's using binaries that I'm building for him, this one just enabled the fm debug values (and slowed the i2c clock down, just to be sure) |
| 20:35:23 | * | r0b- loves the microsd slot on his clip + |
| 20:35:27 | AlexP | S_a_i_n_t: He is using a VM |
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| 20:35:34 | r0b- | makes uploading firmware easy! |
| 20:37:23 | TexasRockbox | Is it possible to disable Rockbox USB with the current build (iPod 5.5g 64MB) or is a custom build required? |
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| 20:37:52 | lis6502 | hi y'all |
| 20:38:05 | lis6502 | i just like to say big THANK you for Rockbox. |
| 20:38:37 | lis6502 | now my sansafuzev2 has new life, and it's much more usable than on sandisk's firmware :) |
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| 20:39:22 | lis6502 | if there's something to test (like new plugins, codecs or something) i'll gladly help |
| 20:39:26 | AlexP | TexasRockbox: You need to alter source (slightly), then compile |
| 20:39:56 | lis6502 | btw, question to developers: is module (*tracker) plugin based on mikmor |
| 20:40:00 | lis6502 | d* ? |
| 20:40:28 | TexasRockbox | OK, thank you. |
| 20:40:55 | TexasRockbox | Are the theme code changes ready to use in the current build? |
| 20:41:14 | AlexP | no |
| 20:41:16 | ranma | funman: No VIC glitch on the Clip+ so far :/ (I was kind of hoping to get one :)) |
| 20:41:33 | funman | ranma: which method did you use? |
| 20:42:40 | TexasRockbox | OK, thank you again! I've been seeing all the changes but wasn't sure if it was ready to use. The sticky in the forum seemed to make me think the changes were going to be available last weekend. |
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| 20:43:37 | ranma | I'm using r26412 with the patch reverted (so it's directly writing to VIC_EN_CLEAR), on the 8th Song or so now... |
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| 20:44:45 | funman | i didn't try on clip+ but i can test it |
| 20:45:16 | ranma | Also tried toggling between pcm_lock and pcm_unlock in the debug menu between screen refreshes, but that also didn't trigger it. |
| 20:47:13 | funman | at very high rate? |
| 20:47:43 | ranma | HZ/10 |
| 20:48:21 | ranma | Or more if I hold a key down (up to max key repeat rate, I guess HZ/30?) |
| 20:48:47 | CIA-6 | New commit by alex (r26482): Backport r26461 to 3.6 branch. |
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| 20:49:17 | bertrik | are we going to release soon? |
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| 20:51:12 | funman | bertrik: tomorrow? |
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| 20:52:24 | bertrik | I guess so, I think the idea was to release before devcon :) |
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| 20:52:39 | bertrik | There's no blockers left for a release, right? |
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| 20:53:32 | funman | i would like to sort out if fuzev1/e200v2 battery life takes a big hit or not |
| 20:53:54 | funman | i should know tomorrow morning |
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| 20:57:57 | lis6502 | about rc builds |
| 20:58:07 | funman | ranma: perhaps jtag could help with r11297 |
| 20:58:16 | lis6502 | rockbox for Fuzev1 will not work with v2 ? |
| 20:58:26 | funman | no it will not |
| 20:58:47 | CIA-6 | New commit by alex (r26483): Update Spanish ... |
| 20:58:53 | pixelma | AlexP: thanks |
| 20:59:11 | AlexP | pixelma: no worries :) |
| 20:59:13 | pixelma | although... you broke it ;) |
| 20:59:30 | AlexP | Fully willing to admit that :) |
| 20:59:49 | AlexP | Although I thought I copied what existed (clearly not well enough) :) |
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| 21:01:45 | pixelma | I haven't checked whether other remote target manuals are broken too though |
| 21:03:12 | CIA-6 | New commit by alex (r26484): Update Spanish ... |
| 21:03:27 | AlexP | pixelma: I tried the other two (I think) |
| 21:03:48 | AlexP | I built quite a lot of them before I committed, but evidently not the iaudio ones |
| 21:04:27 | AlexP | yeah, they are fine |
| 21:05:17 | pixelma | H100/300 and Gigabeats? |
| 21:05:42 | AlexP | yep |
| 21:06:57 | pixelma | AlexP: only the M3 defines HAVEREMOTEKEYMAP, the other Iaudios don't currently but they could... |
| 21:07:16 | ranma | Maybe, but I think I should fix the jtag connector first, the ground wire has come lose :/ |
| 21:07:21 | funman | bertrik: clip+ OF only sets bit 2 of CCU_IO |
| 21:07:31 | AlexP | pixelma: Probably why - I built x5 as a check, but that obviously didn't bring it up |
| 21:08:20 | pixelma | when it was added to the M3 the button mapping diffeered between the other too and a unification was pending |
| 21:08:34 | AlexP | ah, OK |
| 21:08:36 | pixelma | which happened quite some time ago |
| 21:08:42 | bertrik | funman, hm, that's in xpd_func_sel according to the as3525 datasheet, so probably the CCU_IO has a different mapping on the clip+ |
| 21:09:21 | pixelma | s(too/two |
| 21:09:41 | AlexP | pixelma: Do the others need adjusting to add the remote? |
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| 21:09:45 | bertrik | funman, when / where does the OF set bit 2 of CCU_IO? |
| 21:10:06 | funman | bertrik: bit 2 is set in SD driver (dunno if it's related) |
| 21:10:18 | ranma | Building C200v2 for testing of commit 26481 now... |
| 21:10:19 | funman | search for C810000C gives 6AFC |
| 21:10:46 | pixelma | AlexP: that's what I ask myself too... I don't think so but am not a 100% sure |
| 21:11:23 | pixelma | trying if it builds should be enough though |
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| 21:12:46 | CIA-6 | New commit by alex (r26485): Update Chinese (Simple) translation ... |
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| 21:13:17 | pixelma | AlexP: feel free if you want to try |
| 21:13:28 | bertrik | ranma, you have no problems with fm radio on your clip+, right? |
| 21:13:34 | CIA-6 | New commit by alex (r26486): Update Chinese (Simple) translation ... |
| 21:13:38 | funman | i have no problems either |
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| 21:15:01 | funman | i see that cpu/pclk freq seems to be changed in FM code |
| 21:15:11 | funman | i had seen that on other models but ignored it |
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| 21:16:14 | bertrik | huh, really, where? I don't see why FM code would do that? |
| 21:16:23 | AlexP | pixelma: I'll see if it is just a case of enabling it, and check if it builds. I can't check if it is correct though (tonight anyway) |
| 21:16:37 | funman | bertrik: in clip+ 1.02.09 |
| 21:16:48 | funman | 2A1A8 calls 1C48 |
| 21:17:01 | ranma | bertrik: Didn't try, can do that tomorrow |
| 21:17:56 | ranma | That was the first time I got the Clip+ to boot and play music today after all :) |
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| 21:23:56 | funman | i start benchmark on fuzev1 |
| 21:24:24 | CIA-6 | New commit by alex (r26487): Update Slovenian (Slovenscina) translation ... |
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| 21:33:35 | wincent_balin | I just made some noise on the PD-anywhere mailing list and it seems the maintainer is interested in integrating changes done by pdbox back into the PD mobile fork of Pure Data. |
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| 21:42:59 | saratoga | wincent_balin: does PD work on all rockbox targets or just some? |
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| 21:43:59 | wincent_balin | saratoga: For now it does on H300 (tested by myself) and presumably on H100. |
| 21:44:11 | saratoga | whats hardware specific about it? |
| 21:44:28 | wincent_balin | saratoga: GUI controls. |
| 21:44:55 | wincent_balin | Next target I will test it on is Sandisk e200. |
| 21:44:59 | funman | i tried to add a keymap for fuze but i'm not sure it worked |
| 21:45:26 | wincent_balin | pdbox needs mre than 2 MB of RAM. |
| 21:45:34 | wincent_balin | ... more ... |
| 21:46:22 | wincent_balin | But I did not benchmark to which extent this capacity is used. |
| 21:46:51 | wincent_balin | funman: Now that I corrected some silly bugs you may tiy again. |
| 21:47:07 | wincent_balin | ... try ... |
| 21:47:27 | funman | i remember also that the screen was too small |
| 21:47:50 | funman | but then it's the same than h300 |
| 21:49:44 | wincent_balin | funman: As I do not have a target other than a H320 I would like to ask you, if you have time and will for it, to test pdbox on fuze and to tell me about the bugs and whether they occure on target only or in the simulator too. |
| 21:51:06 | funman | sure |
| 21:51:09 | funman | you have some .pd files? |
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| 22:07:34 | wincent_balin | funman: You might want to download the file PureData.zip from http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/PureDataOnRockbox |
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| 22:09:58 | DomasoFan | hi guys. is there one who can make me a mkamsboot from svn for win32? i just have cygwin here and it won't compile here. |
| 22:13:20 | funman | wincent_balin: seems to work |
| 22:13:53 | funman | 2 bugs: bpm & pitch are uninitialized in l8p.pd, i hear cracks when switching frequency in test.pd |
| 22:15:46 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r26489): pdbox: add fuze keymap |
| 22:20:47 | funman | AlexP: Slovenian update caused yellow |
| 22:21:02 | AlexP | bum |
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| 22:24:07 | AlexP | hmmm, I wonder why he removed those translations |
| 22:24:28 | bluebroth3r | bieber: any thoughs on making the theme editor build put the intermediate files into a subdir? |
| 22:24:59 | bieber | You mean the .o's and such? |
| 22:25:14 | bluebroth3r | yes. Basically the same as done for Rockbox Utility: http://pastebin.ca/1876213 |
| 22:25:25 | AlexP | ah, I see |
| 22:25:42 | bluebroth3r | (the code is basically copied from rbutilqt.pro :) |
| 22:26:05 | funman | AlexP: some people have been removed from CRDITS also |
| 22:26:13 | funman | perhaps he merged from an outdated tree |
| 22:26:16 | AlexP | do what |
| 22:26:25 | AlexP | OK, give me a bit :) |
| 22:26:48 | funman | ranma: clip+ crashes in 5 minutes with r26489, r26316+r26444 reverted |
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| 22:27:59 | bieber | Oh, I didn't realize you could do that |
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| 22:28:30 | funman | bluebroth3r: osx has no ccache ? :/ |
| 22:28:55 | bluebroth3r | bieber: another nice thing is the option -config silent with qmake. Works fine at least on Linux, has been an issue in the past with MinGW |
| 22:29:29 | bluebroth3r | funman: haven't checked, and haven't updated that. It's been that way since ages :) |
| 22:30:00 | bluebroth3r | though checking for ccache on Mac shouldn't hurt, even if XCode doesn't ship it one can always install it via macports |
| 22:30:09 | CIA-6 | New commit by alex (r26490): Restore people accidently removed from CREDITS in r26488 |
| 22:31:07 | bieber | How do you get mingw to static link its runtime, btw? |
| 22:31:24 | CIA-6 | New commit by alex (r26491): Restore people accidently removed from credits in r26487 |
| 22:31:26 | bieber | I finally got Qt compiled in a Windows VM to do static linking, but apparently the executable still needs a MingW DLL |
| 22:31:46 | bluebroth3r | funman: just checked, Mac comes without ccache. It's in MacPorts, though. |
| 22:31:55 | funman | bieber: you can cross compile qt apps from linux although it's a bit of a PITA |
| 22:32:04 | bluebroth3r | bieber: you need to use -no-exceptions when building Qt |
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| 22:32:42 | funman | vlc is built from linux with http://download.videolan.org/pub/testing/contrib/qt4-4.6.0-win32-bin.tar.bz2 - although this build only has core & gui afaik |
| 22:32:49 | bluebroth3r | see the RockboxUtilityDevelopment wiki page, it lists how to build Qt for static linking :) |
| 22:33:27 | * | bluebroth3r thinks its much easier to simply build in a VM running Windows |
| 22:33:53 | bieber | I got that far, it's just MingW that's my problem |
| 22:33:57 | bieber | I'll take a look at the Wiki page |
| 22:34:02 | bluebroth3r | bieber: which version of gcc did you use? |
| 22:34:35 | bluebroth3r | as far as I've understood from the MinGW ML there seem to be changes that could eliminate the dependency on mingwm10.dll with gcc 4.5. Haven't looked into that though. |
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| 22:35:37 | bieber | Oh, I think I got 4.4 |
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| 22:36:31 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r26492): Changed build subdirectory |
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| 22:37:18 | bieber | Also, is there a way to temporarily redirect stderr from within a program? |
| 22:37:53 | bluebroth3r | foo 2> file |
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| 22:38:28 | bluebroth3r | bieber: afaics you last commit contained changes unrelated to the commit comment. Please try to avoid such commits, they are confusing :) |
| 22:38:45 | bluebroth3r | (at least it confused me for a second right now) |
| 22:39:45 | bieber | Oh, sorry |
| 22:39:49 | bieber | I thought I'd already committed that |
| 22:40:15 | bluebroth3r | no problem. Just wanted to be sure this wasn't intentional ;-) |
| 22:40:50 | bluebroth3r | (I've seen too many sloppy commits at work, sometimes even causing major breakage) |
| 22:42:22 | funman | I think git useful for that because I can check my commits after committing (before sending them to the server) |
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| 22:44:04 | bluebroth3r | funman: definitely |
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| 22:44:24 | bieber | Oh, that reminds me: are there any serious issues with using Git instead of SVN to commit to the repository? |
| 22:44:49 | funman | no, the only thing missing is setting svn properties, but personally i don't mind |
| 22:45:23 | bieber | Okay, I'll have to give that a try |
| 22:45:32 | AlexP | For the lang yellow, he had included a few untranslated items in there - if I remove the whole item that should just "mark" the as untranslated again, right? |
| 22:45:43 | bieber | I worked a couple hours without Internet access the other day, and I was wishing I could do local commits :/ |
| 22:47:03 | * | AlexP looks around for rasher |
| 22:47:17 | bluebroth3r | bieber: I'm using git-svn since quite a while now without any problems. I have a svn checkout to fix properties in case I need to. Properties can get some kind of an issue when dealing with binary files, but at least for the code base that's no issue. |
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| 22:50:34 | bieber | Do we have a wiki page with info on the structure of an _entire_ theme, not just the WPS file? |
| 22:50:47 | bieber | From what I've gathered so far, it's just a cfg file, a wps file, and some images? |
| 22:51:27 | bluebroth3r | check ThemeGuidelines −− no idea if it's up to date though. |
| 22:51:57 | bluebroth3r | basically, yes. You can include a rwps for targets that have a remote too |
| 22:52:02 | bluebroth3r | plus fonts, if needed. |
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| 22:52:31 | bluebroth3r | no idea about that sbs stuff. Guess you can have that in the theme too. |
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| 22:55:21 | bieber | I think sbs is the status bar? |
| 22:55:36 | bieber | And what do you mean by a remote? Like a physical device with a screen? |
| 22:55:58 | bluebroth3r | yes, some devices have a physical remote. For example the h100 series. |
| 22:57:01 | AlexP | also the fms |
| 22:57:06 | AlexP | (fm radio screen) |
| 22:57:39 | AlexP | so wps, rwps, fms, rfms, sbs, rsbs, cfg |
| 22:57:46 | wincent_balin | funman: BPM/pitch - I am looking into it. Cracks when switching frequency seem to be a sad reality. |
| 22:57:56 | AlexP | And only certain settings are allowed in the cfg |
| 22:58:14 | bluebroth3r | bieber: http://picasaweb.google.be/peturbox/RockboxDevcon2008#5216945741059780466 |
| 22:58:46 | bieber | Wow, I had no idea such a thing existed |
| 22:59:30 | AlexP | The iaudios have them too |
| 22:59:39 | bluebroth3r | those are the three remotes available for the h100 / h300 series |
| 22:59:49 | AlexP | bieber: In fact, the M3 doesn't have a screen on the main unit, just the remote lcd |
| 22:59:55 | bluebroth3r | there's even the m3 which doesn't have a screen :) |
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| 23:00:02 | * | AlexP wins! |
| 23:00:18 | bieber | lol |
| 23:00:20 | * | bluebroth3r feels bad |
| 23:00:26 | AlexP | sorry :) |
| 23:01:26 | pixelma | the remote on the M3 is treated like the main screen there though |
| 23:01:59 | pixelma | but the same remote can be used on the other Iaudios |
| 23:03:36 | * | AlexP wants to unyellow the build table, but would like to check a lang question first |
| 23:03:50 | pixelma | weirdest combinations are IMO - the M5 with the remote (160x128x2 main, 128x96x2 remote) and the MRobe500 (640x480x16 main, 79x16x1 remote) |
| 23:04:15 | bieber | fms is for radio tuning? |
| 23:04:31 | AlexP | it is like the wps, but for when the radio is playing |
| 23:04:47 | bieber | Okay. But the tags and everything are all the same for every screen? |
| 23:04:57 | AlexP | nope |
| 23:05:10 | bieber | Err, I mean as far as the basic semantics go |
| 23:05:21 | AlexP | bieber: You might want to look at www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomWps |
| 23:05:23 | bieber | Viewports, sublines, conditionals and such. I'm assuming there will be different specific tags |
| 23:05:24 | pixelma | AlexP: if the phrases didn't exist before, you could safely remove them again I think. They'll show up as missing in genlang again |
| 23:05:31 | AlexP | bieber: yes |
| 23:05:36 | AlexP | pixelma: That's what I thought |
| 23:06:18 | AlexP | pixelma: There are 3 that did exist before, but I think I'll remove them just in case - I assume they were removed by accident, but it might have been deliberate |
| 23:06:33 | AlexP | So if I remove them, it'll get flagged for him to double check |
| 23:07:02 | AlexP | bieber: Sorry, http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomWPS - but yes, the format is the same |
| 23:07:42 | wincent_balin | funman: Could send me a diff of the keymap for fuze? |
| 23:07:48 | pixelma | which reminds me.... petur: last time I looked, nederlands.lang contained "### note to the translator". Was that on purpose? |
| 23:08:28 | pixelma | it doesn't actually say "note to", I was just too lazy to look it up ;) |
| 23:11:36 | CIA-6 | New commit by alex (r26493): Fix yellow, remove some untranslated strings from Slovenscina |
| 23:12:31 | funman | wincent_balin: it's in svn ;) |
| 23:12:46 | wincent_balin | Oops. |
| 23:13:06 | wincent_balin | The compilation of pdbox for fuze too? |
| 23:13:07 | funman | however the keymap doesn't go fine with the wheel test .pd |
| 23:13:10 | funman | yep |
| 23:13:40 | funman | i made the keymap from the keys description but center/up/down aren't center/up/down on the scrollwheel like GUI |
| 23:13:59 | CIA-6 | New commit by alex (r26494): Fix yellow, remove some untranslated strings from Slovenscina |
| 23:14:08 | petur | pixelma: remind me again on devcon |
| 23:14:08 | funman | fm.pd |
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| 23:15:03 | bieber | Probably a stupid question: Do all the Rockbox targets only tune FM radio, or is fm just short for fm/am? |
| 23:15:07 | pixelma | pity if it can't get fixed till release but... |
| 23:15:41 | AlexP | bieber: fm only at this point |
| 23:15:56 | pixelma | bieber: FM and some D2s have DAB but I doubt it's supported |
| 23:16:20 | pixelma | the Logik DAX has a DAB tuner too ;) |
| 23:16:29 | wincent_balin | funman: I ponder whether I should change the standard layout of pdbox. Currently it is the one I got from PdPod, which was running on iPod 3G. |
| 23:16:53 | funman | ah this is why the fm.pod looks like a ipod wheel :) |
| 23:17:56 | wincent_balin | funman: :-) |
| 23:18:26 | funman | i think it would be a good idea, especially if we add more targets |
| 23:20:14 | wincent_balin | funman: I looked into pdbox.h and SUBDIRS, but pdbox is compiled for H100 and H300 only. |
| 23:21:00 | funman | i added CONFIG_KEYPAD == SANSA_FUZE_PAD condition in apps/plugins/SUBDIRS (r26489) |
| 23:22:18 | wincent_balin | funman: And it is in the SVN? |
| 23:22:56 | funman | http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev;revision=26489 |
| 23:23:24 | wincent_balin | funman: Ok, now I see. My fault −− forgot to svn update. |
| 23:23:32 | funman | ^^ |
| 23:23:42 | funman | svn update a day, keeps the bugs away |
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| 23:26:04 | wincent_balin | funman: Another question: Do you hear the cracks (pdpod_test.pd) in the sim or on target? |
| 23:26:15 | funman | target |
| 23:26:35 | funman | Torne: you remember where the default startup plugin can be activated? grep PLUGIN apps/ turns nothing |
| 23:27:03 | kugel | funman: you mean at boot? |
| 23:28:31 | funman | yes |
| 23:28:38 | kugel | look at main.c |
| 23:29:02 | wincent_balin | funman: Hmm... pdpod_test.pd is more or less an oscillator connected to DAC. Cracks mean there is something wrong with index of the cosine table. |
| 23:29:27 | wincent_balin | funman: Fuze is an ARM target, isn't it? |
| 23:29:48 | bluebroth3r | funman: look for AUTOROCK |
| 23:30:11 | funman | wincent_balin: yes it's arm9tdmi, i tested on fuzev2 (armv5) |
| 23:30:23 | funman | bluebroth3r: thanks ;) |
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| 23:31:02 | wincent_balin | funman: Does ARM have a signed/unsigned peculiarities? And do the cracks occure in the simulator too? |
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| 23:35:47 | funman | yes but much less |
| 23:36:31 | funman | i don't know ARM arithmetic but i don't know of any specific thing about sign |
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| 23:40:47 | wincent_balin | funman: How high is the HZ rate on Fuze? |
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| 23:41:04 | funman | 100 - i think it's the same on evrery target |
| 23:41:35 | funman | wincent_balin: look in firmware/export/kernel.h |
| 23:42:40 | wincent_balin | funman: Indeed... Hmm... |
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| 23:43:38 | wincent_balin | funman: On H320 I get the cracks too. Will look into it later. |
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| 23:45:49 | Buschel | as you are talking of pdbox and cos_table -> will anyone change the formatting of the cos_table[] declaration in a way to not declare this multi-10k array in one single line? |
| 23:46:15 | * | Buschel talks about cos_table.c and cos_table.h in the pdbox folder |
| 23:48:55 | wincent_balin | I hope so. |
| 23:49:43 | wincent_balin | .c file - certainly, .h may have to remain like this because of compatibility. |
| 23:51:04 | bluebroth3r | why because of compatibility? |
| 23:52:07 | Buschel | the declaration in the .h file is not used when ROCKBOX is defined and could be removed... |
| 23:52:46 | bluebroth3r | regardless of that I don't see why whitespace changes would not be permitted because of compatibility reasons. |
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| 23:54:57 | bluebroth3r | wow, that line is really extreme |
| 23:55:02 | wincent_balin | Ok, then I'll change that. |
| 23:55:25 | CIA-6 | New commit by bluebrother (r26495): Move constructing the themes info download link to rbutil.ini. ... |
| 23:55:39 | * | bluebroth3r never looked at that before |
| 23:56:44 | * | Buschel 's editor is always complaining about those 2 files |
| 23:57:26 | Buschel | btw, the cos-tab has 4 times the size it would need. we could save a lot of memory (if needed) |
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