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| 00:04:03 | wincent_balin | Buschel: I am editing cos_table.c now. You may try and look into the sound quality (pdpod_test.pd uses it, for example, through the osc~ object). |
| 00:08:01 | bluebroth3r | btw, why do some files end with ~? Is there a reason for that? |
| 00:08:39 | Buschel | wincent_balin: great, my editor will be very thankful :) |
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| 00:09:44 | wincent_balin | bluebroth3r: Objects ending with ~ work with audio (meaning: not control) signals. |
| 00:10:26 | funman | lua doesn't have directories functions (like opendir). "Programming in Lua" has a C example but I can't find any licence, only "Copyright XXX - All rights reserved" |
| 00:11:41 | funman | http://keplerproject.github.com/luafilesystem/ is probably more interesting |
| 00:14:16 | wincent_balin | I would like to double maximal size of an uploadable file in the Wiki. Who do I have to speak to? |
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| 00:17:38 | Buschel | good night guys! |
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| 02:35:00 | kio | hi, when I mount my sansa_e280v2 on my linux desktop, I can't see the microsdhc card, but when I boot the player, I would see something like <mircoSD1> from the files menu, how can i see that when connecting with the usb? currently I have to take the card out, use the usb controler and copy files there. Many thanks in advance |
| 02:37:36 | funman | mcuelenaere: FS #11347 - *dir LUA functions |
| 02:38:40 | funman | kio: the OF (Original Firmware) can't read SDHC cards, only SD |
| 02:39:09 | funman | update your build and bootloader so USB connection will run on rockbox, not the OF |
| 02:39:15 | CIA-6 | New commit by wincent (r26497): pdbox: Source cleanup. Removed unneeded files. |
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| 02:49:10 | kio | ok, thanks funman |
| 02:53:42 | wincent_balin | Ignore my last request. |
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| 05:27:33 | S_a_i_n_t | Is anyone able to tell me why it is that "make voice" isn't smart enough to do "nothing to be done for `all` "? |
| 05:27:49 | S_a_i_n_t | It would cut the time of my build script dramatically. |
| 05:28:16 | CIA-6 | New commit by wincent (r26502): pdbox: Fixing reds. |
| 05:29:50 | S_a_i_n_t | Because I mess around with patches quite a lot, my voice files often change so I included building voice files in my build script, but it's kinda annoying when nothing has changed and it still builds voice files anyway. |
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| 07:18:41 | literal | I'm using the latest rockbox build for the Sansa Clip+ and the "Now Playing" screen looks a bit off. The artist name is a bit too high up, so the top of it is in the yellow area where the song title is. |
| 07:18:58 | literal | Can this be worked around? |
| 07:19:30 | Unhelpful | literal: which WPS and font are you using? |
| 07:19:33 | FlynDice | literal: go to the theme site and pick another wps |
| 07:20:00 | literal | This is from a fresh install, no theme settings changed. The font is rockfont, I believe. |
| 07:20:25 | literal | I'll take a look at the theme site. |
| 07:20:56 | S_a_i_n_t | FlynDice: No offence man, but that's hardly a fix. |
| 07:21:25 | S_a_i_n_t | If Cabbie is broken, it needs fixing. |
| 07:21:31 | S_a_i_n_t | +V2 |
| 07:21:39 | literal | Yeah, cabbiev2 is the one I'm using. |
| 07:21:48 | FlynDice | ding ding ding I hear a volunteer..!!! |
| 07:22:44 | Dhraakellian | is it possible to do a slider-like progress bar instead of a, well, progressbar-style progress bar? |
| 07:22:50 | Dhraakellian | ...if that made any sense whatsoever |
| 07:23:31 | S_a_i_n_t | Dhraakellian: Could you clarify that a little please? |
| 07:23:36 | Dhraakellian | an image with a pointer of some sort vs. an image that gets filled up by another image |
| 07:23:42 | FlynDice | literal: I can reccomend yellow bar dynamic or DFKT minimum |
| 07:23:53 | S_a_i_n_t | Ahhhh, I see. Not with current code. |
| 07:24:09 | S_a_i_n_t | Dhraakellian: ^ |
| 07:24:20 | Dhraakellian | okay, what I'll probably do is put per-track album art above and/or below the progress bar |
| 07:24:28 | literal | the screenshot of DFKT minimun looks pretty cramped/crowded |
| 07:24:55 | literal | I like how iPlayer looks, though |
| 07:24:57 | FlynDice | I changed to a different font & lke it very much |
| 07:25:05 | FlynDice | like it even |
| 07:26:58 | S_a_i_n_t | literal: Can you please send me a screenshot of the busted WPS? |
| 07:27:06 | S_a_i_n_t | do you know how to enable screendump? |
| 07:27:16 | S_a_i_n_t | (in the debug menu) |
| 07:27:27 | literal | Probably...wait |
| 07:27:52 | literal | Ok, enabled. How do I take a screenshot? |
| 07:27:57 | S_a_i_n_t | go to debug, screendump, enable it, then plug in the dock connector. |
| 07:28:05 | literal | Ah |
| 07:28:20 | S_a_i_n_t | it will dump an image, retrieve it from the root of the player and post it somewhere |
| 07:28:32 | S_a_i_n_t | it will help me to adjust what needs adjusting. |
| 07:28:57 | S_a_i_n_t | (I suggest imgur.com) |
| 07:29:02 | literal | Of course. |
| 07:29:31 | literal | Oh well, the original firmware wants to update its DB first... |
| 07:29:55 | S_a_i_n_t | Make sure to turn screendump off when you're finished to avoid all sorts of pissing yourself off if you happen to forget about it :P |
| 07:30:31 | * | S_a_i_n_t does that all the time and is like "Dammit, why. wont. you. mount!" |
| 07:30:35 | literal | is there some trick to circumvent the DB update on the original firmware, since I'm not using it anymore? |
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| 07:31:08 | FlynDice | remove uSD card |
| 07:31:16 | Draftman | hi |
| 07:31:20 | Draftman | whos there? |
| 07:31:30 | literal | S_a_i_n_t: http://imgur.com/749Qj.png |
| 07:31:41 | S_a_i_n_t | Draftman: If you have a question, just ask it. |
| 07:31:55 | S_a_i_n_t | literal: Thanks, it will be a big help. |
| 07:32:07 | S_a_i_n_t | I will do the work on the WPS sometime tonight. |
| 07:32:11 | Draftman | mm, is a channel of questions and answers, right? |
| 07:32:37 | S_a_i_n_t | Draftman: About Rockbox, yes. |
| 07:32:38 | * | Dhraakellian also wonders whether it'd be possible to display regular album art (eg. folder.jpg) alongside per-track album art (220x5 moodbar bmp) |
| 07:32:47 | * | Dhraakellian just needs to read the wps page, probably |
| 07:33:17 | S_a_i_n_t | Dhraakellian: IIRC, it isn't possible. |
| 07:33:45 | Dhraakellian | hmm... how about multiple copies of the same albumart? |
| 07:33:46 | | Part Draftman |
| 07:33:48 | literal | S_a_i_n_t: some other themes also include bits which cross the blue/yellow boundary, but I guess that's to be expected? i.e. they're not all designed with the Clip+ in mind... |
| 07:34:02 | S_a_i_n_t | It will only allow one instance of AA, though you can display it multiple times onscreen...it has to be the same image. |
| 07:34:11 | S_a_i_n_t | (from my experiments at least) |
| 07:34:19 | Dhraakellian | because that would affect how big I render stuff |
| 07:34:27 | Dhraakellian | okay |
| 07:35:32 | S_a_i_n_t | literal: Other themes I don;t really care about to be honest, it'd be up to the author to update them...but the fact that CabbieV2 is the "face" of Rockbox (the default theme), it needs to be fixed. |
| 07:35:46 | literal | I see |
| 07:38:05 | FlynDice | S_a_i_n_t: Be sure to check your changes with clipv1/v2. Cabbie may display correctly on those. I don't have one of those so I can't check.... |
| 07:39:27 | S_a_i_n_t | Hmmm, they have the same screen size yes? I think the themesite needs to be sorted by target rather than screensize. |
| 07:40:06 | S_a_i_n_t | I mean, I know it *is* sorted by target, but themes that have the same dimensions end up in targets not intended for them specifically...it's kinda stupid. |
| 07:43:54 | S_a_i_n_t | Perhaps that could be a (rather late I know) additional topic for DevCon. |
| 07:44:34 | S_a_i_n_t | I know the theme site will be discussed re: Skin Break Branch stuff & what to do about it and RButil etc. |
| 07:45:32 | S_a_i_n_t | So, grouping of the themes would be able to be discussed also I'msure. The current method works, but not very well now that there are multiple targets sharing the same screen dimensions. |
| 07:46:02 | literal | Is it possible to somehow exclude audiobooks/podcasts? Like, say, if I want to play a random music track, I go to Database->Artist->Random or something, but that includes audiobooks and podcasts too... |
| 07:46:18 | bieber | I'm wondering what everyone would like to see from the Theme Editor in terms of syntax highlighting? |
| 07:46:37 | S_a_i_n_t | literal: Make a playlist manually. |
| 07:46:55 | S_a_i_n_t | that would be the easiest way IIUC |
| 07:47:36 | literal | I see there's something there called "Custom view", how does that work? Nothing happens if I select it |
| 07:47:57 | literal | Would be great if I could specify something like "where genre != soundtrack && genre != podcast" |
| 07:47:57 | S_a_i_n_t | bieber: (IMO) Tags one colour, seperators another, containers for conditionals another...? |
| 07:48:17 | bieber | When you say containers, you mean the <>? |
| 07:48:34 | S_a_i_n_t | literal: Custom View is for a custom tagnavi config file IIRC |
| 07:48:45 | S_a_i_n_t | See the wiki re: tagnavi.custom |
| 07:49:00 | S_a_i_n_t | bieber: Yep |
| 07:49:14 | bieber | I've also considered highlighting the contents of conditionals: would that interest you, or do you think it would just get in the way? |
| 07:49:37 | S_a_i_n_t | Hmmmm, nah. I think it would look weird. |
| 07:49:53 | S_a_i_n_t | I'd just like to see the containers, seperators, and tags clearly. |
| 07:50:01 | literal | The wiki has no "tagnavi" or "tagnavi.custom" articles |
| 07:50:15 | S_a_i_n_t | literal: One sec, I'll find it for you. |
| 07:50:17 | bieber | And then to make things a little more ridiculous, I've been thinking about making conditional interiors highlighted one color, and then darkening the color each time you get into another nested conditional :P |
| 07:50:54 | bieber | Realistically, though, I'm thinking just highlighting key elements will work better |
| 07:51:06 | S_a_i_n_t | Hmmmmm, I guess a nested conditional needs to be highlighted seperately from a conditional...correct. |
| 07:51:21 | S_a_i_n_t | I wouldn;t say ridiculous...but, it's your party ;) |
| 07:52:08 | literal | S_a_i_n_t: you mean this? http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/DataBase#tagnavi_config_v2_0_Syntax |
| 07:53:22 | S_a_i_n_t | I *think* that may be it. |
| 07:53:53 | S_a_i_n_t | it's been a while since I looked at it. I seem to remember there being a seperate page for tagnavi.custom though...which included examples. |
| 07:54:26 | S_a_i_n_t | yeah, that's the one. |
| 07:54:37 | S_a_i_n_t | Look further toward the bottom. |
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| 07:54:46 | literal | ok |
| 07:55:06 | funman | FlynDice: all clip screens are the same (2 pixels separation between blue & yellow) |
| 07:55:08 | S_a_i_n_t | there is even an example that seperates podcasts...isn;t that what you wanted? Or did you want everything *but* podcasts? |
| 07:55:41 | S_a_i_n_t | funman: Do they all use the same WPS? |
| 07:55:43 | S_a_i_n_t | I assume so? |
| 07:55:44 | funman | S_a_i_n_t: check with pixelma before making cabbie changes, i think the 128x64x1 version is used on other targets. |
| 07:55:51 | literal | Everything except audiobooks and podcasts. I.e. music. |
| 07:56:01 | funman | afaik yes WPS selection is only based on screen size/depth |
| 07:56:13 | literal | Regarding the ReplayGain settings, there's "Track gain", "Album gain" and "Track gain if shuffling". Why no "Track gain when shuffling, album gain otherwise" ? |
| 07:56:37 | FlynDice | funman: So cabbie displays the ame on clipv1/v2 with the line through the tops of the letters? |
| 07:56:42 | S_a_i_n_t | literal: Because noone has implemented it? ;) |
| 07:56:51 | S_a_i_n_t | you're free to submit a patch ;) |
| 07:57:04 | literal | I'll see what I can do. |
| 07:57:09 | literal | C code? |
| 07:57:20 | funman | yeah |
| 07:57:27 | funman | i think it's only one pixel off |
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| 07:58:05 | S_a_i_n_t | funman: Looks to be two px off to me, but I don't even know if it supports viewports or not. |
| 07:58:27 | S_a_i_n_t | I'm not at my dev-PC at the moment, I can't check it until later tonight |
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| 07:59:02 | bieber | You've gotta be kidding me. Qt actually has a syntax highlighter class |
| 07:59:07 | S_a_i_n_t | it may need to skip a whole line to fix it with the current WPS code, or be converted to viewport. (which is the eventual intention) |
| 07:59:13 | literal | Soooo...where's the code repository? |
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| 08:00:08 | S_a_i_n_t | svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk |
| 08:00:08 | pixelma | funman, S_a_i_n_t: yes and no for SVN WPSs. There you have the possibikity to add a "-target" to the screen size parameters in the name - and this is actually done for the Clip. Monochrome screens support viewports |
| 08:00:11 | literal | Ah, git://git.rockbox.org/rockbox |
| 08:00:30 | pixelma | possibility too |
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| 08:01:22 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: So, it should only be the clip/+ with this error? |
| 08:01:34 | S_a_i_n_t | I don;t have the targets...so I can't check it. |
| 08:02:18 | S_a_i_n_t | Hmmmm...no, they all would have the same error if they use the same WPS *duh* |
| 08:02:20 | pixelma | I didn't see the start of the discussion |
| 08:02:23 | S_a_i_n_t | (don;t mind me) |
| 08:02:51 | S_a_i_n_t | the track title is halfway in the yellow, halfway in the blue |
| 08:02:56 | funman | S_a_i_n_t: the sim should reflect the screen accurately |
| 08:03:07 | S_a_i_n_t | I need to drop it down at least 2px to make it work right. |
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| 08:03:23 | pixelma | and that's with the included cabbiev2? |
| 08:03:31 | S_a_i_n_t | yes |
| 08:03:35 | JdGordon | bieber: that sounds like a good thing? :D |
| 08:03:43 | JdGordon | can you add line numbers to the text box? |
| 08:03:45 | bieber | It's an amazingly good thing |
| 08:04:26 | pixelma | I remember that bertrik made a version especially for the clip, so I can't imagine that... maybe he chose a different font (size)? |
| 08:04:39 | bieber | And yeah, I'll do that too. I'll see if my luck continues and I can find an enableLineNumbering() function or somesuch |
| 08:04:50 | S_a_i_n_t | literal: Are you using the default font? |
| 08:04:56 | funman | pixelma: nope it's how cabbiev2 looks like on clips, grep CLIP /wps shows nothing |
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| 08:05:30 | S_a_i_n_t | funman: So it *is* the same on yours? |
| 08:05:31 | funman | i do'nt think fonts change this because the still text starts from the same line |
| 08:05:32 | pixelma | cabbiev2.128x64x1.sansaclip.wps |
| 08:05:39 | S_a_i_n_t | half yellow/half blue? |
| 08:05:46 | literal | S_a_i_n_t: Yeah, rockfont |
| 08:05:50 | pixelma | maybe the target rename broke it... |
| 08:05:58 | funman | hm perhaps it works on clipv1 then |
| 08:06:27 | S_a_i_n_t | Well, I'll submit a change later on tonight and someone can review it... |
| 08:06:40 | S_a_i_n_t | (unless it's just a simple matter of renaming things) |
| 08:06:42 | pixelma | the WPS is there |
| 08:07:24 | funman | iiuc we just need to copy it for clipv2/clip+ |
| 08:07:47 | S_a_i_n_t | From what I can see, dropping the track info viewport down by 2px will fix it up nicely |
| 08:08:02 | pixelma | funman: if you understand perl, maybe you can fix the wpsbuild.pl so the right version will be included |
| 08:08:07 | S_a_i_n_t | but again, if it was just a rename that broke it...it's even easier. |
| 08:08:58 | funman | it looks fine in clipv1 sim, testing clipv2.. |
| 08:09:31 | pixelma | S_a_i_n_t: there is a WPS in SVN that is made especially for the Clip's screen and does not have to be changed. It seems that the problem is that the Ckip+ and Clipv2 don't include the right version |
| 08:10:33 | ranma | funman: I got the bench result, 6h (down from 9h), but that might be because the lcd hung and I didn't want to abort the bench so I left it running anyway. Currently recharging. |
| 08:11:16 | funman | ranma: thanks, got your email; fuzev1 is still running I should have the results in 2 hours or alike |
| 08:11:17 | bieber | JdGordon: It looks like line numbers are doable, but something of a pain, so I'll probably do it towards the end of my work on the GUI after everything else is functional |
| 08:11:35 | literal | Hm, does Rockbox not support variable playback speed like the Clip+'s original firmware? |
| 08:11:50 | literal | For audiobooks and such |
| 08:11:57 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: Do you think there is a need for rearranging the themesite to sort by target name only (this would fix themes with the same screen dimensions ending up in target categories they were not necessarily intended for). |
| 08:12:19 | S_a_i_n_t | literal: Check "Pitch Screen" in the manual |
| 08:12:27 | funman | S_a_i_n_t: http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/414/clipx.png |
| 08:12:28 | pixelma | there is a pitch and a timestretch option (the latter needs to be enabled befor though) |
| 08:12:35 | S_a_i_n_t | not sure if it is implemented for that target or not though. |
| 08:12:42 | literal | Ok |
| 08:12:51 | S_a_i_n_t | but rockbox *does* support variable pitch/speed. |
| 08:13:01 | FlynDice | literal: yes pitch screen is present in clip+ |
| 08:15:42 | S_a_i_n_t | funman: Why on earth doesn't the ClipV2 use the same version as the Clip? |
| 08:15:51 | S_a_i_n_t | the V2's WPS is AWFUL |
| 08:16:15 | S_a_i_n_t | Clip's looks *way* better IMO |
| 08:16:57 | funman | S_a_i_n_t: selection of clipv1 wps is made by target name |
| 08:17:31 | pixelma | S_a_i_n_t: I wouldn't like limiting to only the target it was submitted for. If it works on different ones it gives a better selection - but there needs to be at least one more must have limit currently not there and I can see how some solution to limit the Clips' selection could be useful (but all those will work on other 128x64x1 screens without the gap) |
| 08:17:33 | literal | Where do I find the Pitch screen? I enabled Timestretch and rebooted, and I can't find it... |
| 08:17:56 | S_a_i_n_t | Well, if they all have that blue/yellow thing...and all have the same dimensions (which they do) they should all use the WPS that the Clip is using in the image you linked me. |
| 08:18:01 | S_a_i_n_t | it's a LOT betetr |
| 08:18:11 | funman | S_a_i_n_t: well yeah we were just hit by a bug report ;) |
| 08:18:15 | S_a_i_n_t | literal: Context menu |
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| 08:18:44 | S_a_i_n_t | funman: Like, right then? |
| 08:19:09 | literal | S_a_i_n_t: Ah, I was unaware of the Context menu |
| 08:19:56 | pixelma | the Clipv2/+ is using the "plain" cabbiev2 128x64x1 version that is actually made for the Iriver lcd remotes |
| 08:21:02 | pixelma | and works there with a larger font (Helvetica at 12 px tall or so) because you had to use the same font on main screen and remote |
| 08:22:08 | funman | but now we could use a 8px font ? |
| 08:23:09 | pixelma | multifont lets you chose different fonts for remote and main screen (and even some per WPS) |
| 08:23:23 | funman | it'd be simpler to adapt the iriver remote wps so it looks fine on clips and not use target selection |
| 08:23:39 | pixelma | maybe |
| 08:24:31 | funman | even just copy the current clip wps |
| 08:25:19 | pixelma | but I guess it needs adapting of some script too... the one that builds the .cfg is probably not set up for remote default fonts |
| 08:26:31 | pixelma | it would also be nice if the Clips' version could get the inverted style icons as I did for the MRobe100 - and then Clip and Iriver remotes will differ again |
| 08:27:18 | funman | pixelma: remote font is hardcoded in WPSLIST |
| 08:29:16 | CIA-6 | New commit by bluebrother (r26504): Fix global proxy getting set too late. ... |
| 08:29:50 | JdGordon | pixelma: I was going to look into fixing the wpsbuild.pl script today thanks to haveing a working clip+ again... |
| 08:30:20 | pixelma | funman: that's been there for a long time but I'm not sure if it works |
| 08:30:28 | pixelma | JdGordon: nice :) |
| 08:30:56 | JdGordon | although I vagualy remember how scary it is so dont expect much : |
| 08:30:58 | JdGordon | :) |
| 08:31:09 | funman | http://i.imgur.com/PSnPg.png <- there's something wrong with the time display |
| 08:31:12 | JdGordon | why does the clip not go back to the menu with the home button in the fm screen? |
| 08:31:22 | funman | JdGordon: because you didn't fix the keymap |
| 08:31:33 | JdGordon | :) |
| 08:31:44 | JdGordon | funman: viewports being clipped |
| 08:32:00 | funman | are rwps & wps being treated differently ? |
| 08:32:05 | * | pixelma sometimes wished she had an Iaudio remote to test some of these things directly - if it just wasn't so expensive (and still available...) |
| 08:32:44 | JdGordon | funman: ? |
| 08:32:49 | funman | pixelma: if it's expensive there's the rockbox fund |
| 08:33:12 | funman | JdGordon: i just copied the clip(v1) wps over the default 128x64x1 wps, which is used as the iriver remote wps |
| 08:33:42 | pixelma | funman: RWPSs just get a .rwps extension during inclusion |
| 08:33:51 | funman | hmm i guess font selection didn't work as i wanted |
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| 08:37:25 | ssorgatem | pdbox doesn't build with arm-eabi toolchain |
| 08:39:34 | funman | JdGordon: can we specify a wps font & another rwps font in .cfg file? |
| 08:40:15 | JdGordon | lemme check, I cant remember |
| 08:40:37 | JdGordon | yes |
| 08:40:42 | JdGordon | "remote font" should be the setting |
| 08:40:47 | pixelma | I think a differing default font for both would be better |
| 08:42:34 | pixelma | on remote targets you'll get a selection "Main Screen" or "Remote Screen" if you select a font now |
| 08:43:11 | funman | hm that goes in config.cfg not cabbiev2.cfg |
| 08:43:17 | literal | is it appropriate to submit feature requests to the bug tracker? |
| 08:43:27 | funman | literal: no i think you should use the forum |
| 08:43:37 | literal | ok |
| 08:43:43 | JdGordon | can someone change their flyspray timezone (in the user settings) and tell me if the times on tasks are all completly wrong after doing that? |
| 08:45:26 | literal | looks like my feature is already implemented, just not very clear in the UI |
| 08:45:34 | literal | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=17392.msg128492#msg128492 |
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| 08:54:36 | literal | hm, "Show Track info" in the context menu has less information than the Clip+'s original firmware |
| 08:54:57 | literal | codec and ID3 tag version, and the filesize |
| 08:57:06 | literal | not a big deal though |
| 08:57:14 | JdGordon | that screen shows only the info which the track has |
| 08:57:25 | literal | it also shows the filename |
| 08:57:35 | S_a_i_n_t | Well, Rockbox isn't the original formware...making comparisons between the two is kinda silly. |
| 08:57:41 | literal | so I don't see why it couldn't show filesize |
| 08:58:10 | literal | S_a_i_n_t: there's no reason that Rockbox couldn't be better than the original in every way, though :) |
| 08:58:18 | S_a_i_n_t | It does, just not where you're looking. |
| 08:58:56 | S_a_i_n_t | filesize has nothing to do with track info, "properties" in the flietree context menu is where you should be looking. |
| 08:59:17 | S_a_i_n_t | literal: "better" is entirely subjective |
| 08:59:49 | literal | I just found something that *is* a big deal, though. The sound quality is worse. I hear faint crackling when listening to music which plays perfectly on the original firmware. |
| 09:00 |
| 09:00:16 | S_a_i_n_t | Rockbox != The original firmware!!! |
| 09:00:22 | GodEater | yay, time for another "Rockbox sounds like a BAG OF SHIT!!!!" discussion |
| 09:00:36 | GodEater | what is we usually suggest here? RMA? |
| 09:00:39 | S_a_i_n_t | and never claims to be "better" than it, it is just an alternate firmware. |
| 09:00:45 | literal | S_a_i_n_t: What's your point? Isn't it still a goal of Rockbox to play music well? |
| 09:00:48 | S_a_i_n_t | Better or worse is entirely subjective |
| 09:00:59 | GodEater | S_a_i_n_t: not true |
| 09:01:16 | GodEater | we *do* strive to be as good as or better than the OF |
| 09:01:21 | literal | I'm not saying "Rockbox should do this because the original firmware does". I'm saying Rockbox should have good sound quality because that's what any firmware should offer, if possible... |
| 09:01:28 | S_a_i_n_t | it is indeed...one mans better is another mans worse. |
| 09:01:41 | GodEater | however the Clip+ port is extremely juvenile still, so I wouldn't expect it to be perfect yet |
| 09:01:53 | literal | The crackling seems to be mostly in the left channel |
| 09:02:02 | GodEater | see previous comment |
| 09:02:03 | funman | ah wpsbuild.pl doesn't create/modify the .cfg for rwps |
| 09:02:51 | Zagor_ | literal: is the crackling more or less audible in different tracks? at different volumes? |
| 09:03:04 | Zagor_ | is it audible while paused? |
| 09:03:59 | literal | Not while paused. Heavy bass seems to trigger it. |
| 09:04:19 | GodEater | literal: could you post results from RMAA playing the same track in both firmwares? |
| 09:05:02 | literal | Uh, sure. How does one do that? |
| 09:05:08 | GodEater | http://audio.rightmark.org/index_new.shtml |
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| 09:05:33 | GodEater | I think this is the tool we generally ask people to use when there are issues around sound quality |
| 09:05:42 | GodEater | it makes the test objective at least |
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| 09:08:02 | JdGordon | pixelma: funman: as a simple quick fix for 3.6 we could just make a copy of the clip.wps for the v2 and plus |
| 09:08:17 | pixelma | funman, JdGordon: the quickest fix... or hackaround would be to copy... what he said ;) |
| 09:08:20 | funman | JdGordon: no problem since no clip is stable |
| 09:08:37 | pixelma | not nice wrt maintainability later though |
| 09:09:18 | funman | i can make the perl script put a 'remote font:' in theme.cfg but it's not loaded |
| 09:10:22 | pixelma | it would need to be in the config.cfg if it has to be available at boot (for the default theme) |
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| 09:10:40 | funman | http://pastie.org/990139 <- cfg |
| 09:11:14 | JdGordon | which target is that for? |
| 09:11:25 | funman | iriver h12*0 |
| 09:11:32 | JdGordon | ok |
| 09:12:02 | funman | where is default font hardcoded then ? |
| 09:12:15 | JdGordon | apps/settings.h |
| 09:12:28 | literal | here is someone who seems to be experiencing the same sound quality problem: http://anythingbutipod.com/forum/showpost.php?p=474437&postcount=492 |
| 09:12:51 | literal | so it may have degraded sometime around revision 26380 |
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| 09:14:59 | GodEater | that doesn't tell us which release had brilliant sound though |
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| 09:15:39 | literal | GodEater: a few comments down he says that r26177 sounded brilliantly |
| 09:15:42 | GodEater | also, "sound quality has degraded and sounds a bit distorted" doesn't say "There's crackling in the left channel" to me - it's extremely vague |
| 09:15:59 | GodEater | so someone could then do a binary search to work out when the change happened? |
| 09:16:10 | GodEater | which would tell us what the change was... |
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| 09:16:33 | JdGordon | who knows genlang? |
| 09:16:33 | literal | does rockbox.org only have the three last daily builds? |
| 09:16:53 | GodEater | we never recommend using daily builds anyway |
| 09:16:59 | GodEater | so it wouldn't surprise me if we only kept three |
| 09:17:09 | funman | http://i.imgur.com/kwvlv.png - how does that look ? |
| 09:17:28 | JdGordon | like crap :) |
| 09:17:34 | funman | :/ |
| 09:17:36 | funman | http://pastie.org/990145 |
| 09:17:47 | pixelma | empty |
| 09:17:57 | funman | perhaps because of missing tags |
| 09:18:50 | funman | http://i.imgur.com/9qx2I.png |
| 09:19:13 | pixelma | GodEater: we once kept one month, and I do think three is not enough (as you could see with the manuals yesterday) |
| 09:19:56 | GodEater | pixelma: I don't claim to be an expert on how many we keep, since I never use them :) |
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| 09:20:30 | funman | JdGordon: http://pastie.org/990145 (edited), can you comment on the settings_list change ? |
| 09:21:11 | S_a_i_n_t | If I wanted to disable "shutdown on long play" for the iPods....what do I need to change in the keymaps? |
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| 09:21:24 | JdGordon | funman: looks fine |
| 09:21:27 | pixelma | usually I don't use them either but it would sometimes be nice to be able going back in history a little bit further as it sometimes takes a while to discover bugs |
| 09:21:35 | funman | perhaps i need not to remove the rwps font = 12-helvetica for iaudios & mrobe |
| 09:21:40 | pixelma | GodEater: ^^ |
| 09:21:45 | GodEater | pixelma: well surely you can always build your own? |
| 09:22:02 | pixelma | I can but not everyone |
| 09:22:09 | pixelma | well, not easily |
| 09:23:44 | pixelma | funman: I'd still prefer if the script would be fixed for the other Clips too (as they also have an "inverted" display compared to the usual monochrome remotes) |
| 09:23:57 | funman | pixelma: what's wrong with that? |
| 09:24:06 | funman | the wps hasn't changed in 1 year or so |
| 09:24:38 | funman | (and it's fine for me) |
| 09:25:45 | pixelma | the bitmaps should actually look a bit different to look like "light is coming from top". There was a change I did for the also inverted MRobe100 display, let me see if I can find the task in the tracker with comparison screen shot |
| 09:26:05 | funman | I can commit the change for setting rwps default font (only setting it for <= 64 remote height without touching the wps themselves |
| 09:26:59 | pixelma | it's also giving more independence between Clips and Iriver remotes in case things change later |
| 09:27:32 | funman | independance = duplication so IMO it's not a good thing unless needed |
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| 09:30:05 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r26505): Use a different remote font than the main LCD font ... |
| 09:31:11 | pixelma | independence is not the same as duplication |
| 09:31:27 | pixelma | it's more control if things should differ a bit |
| 09:32:23 | funman | if they should, we can do it |
| 09:32:52 | JdGordon | I've been wantintg to fix the wps script to let you do proper target selection like the .lang files for ages.... my perl isnt really good enough though |
| 09:33:08 | JdGordon | trying to figure out what to copy from buildlang to make it work |
| 09:33:19 | pixelma | I wouldn't want three versions of the Clip variant in SVN - but one Clip and one Iriver remote. I don't like the fact that you just changed the looks for Iriver remote owners just to fix the Clipv2 and Clip+ |
| 09:33:24 | S_a_i_n_t | what do I need to change in "keymap-ipod.c" to disable "shutdown on lang play"? |
| 09:33:31 | funman | pixelma: what about adding some spacing to the iriver rwps so it looks fine on clip (and on iriver) ? |
| 09:33:54 | funman | pixelma: doesn't fix anything on clip |
| 09:33:57 | S_a_i_n_t | Can it be done, or is it hard coded? |
| 09:34:20 | funman | 08:40 < pixelma> I think a differing default font for both would be better |
| 09:34:54 | funman | sorry if i misunderstood that as 'using 8px font on iriver remote would be good' |
| 09:35:38 | JdGordon | S_a_i_n_t: I think that might be very hardcoded... not sure if it is possible to disable |
| 09:35:57 | pixelma | yes, because you talked about WPS fonts.. ;) And yes, making the use of different fonts actually possible is good. I didn't want to say that this is the solution for cabbiev2 |
| 09:36:03 | pixelma | funman: |
| 09:36:28 | funman | well then i dunno |
| 09:36:57 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon: Blargh...I wanted to disable it so I could use "shutdown" in the main menu, and then in turn use long-play as a sort of "psuedo-stop". |
| 09:37:23 | funman | let me try to tweak the iriver rwps and show you beautiful screenshots ;) |
| 09:37:46 | Llorean | S_a_i_n_t: pseudo stop? |
| 09:37:49 | S_a_i_n_t | I often use long play to stop playback completely, but it's a fine line between stop playback/turn the player off...which is annoying. |
| 09:38:10 | * | Llorean has never had trouble stopping without shutting down on his Nano |
| 09:38:36 | S_a_i_n_t | Llorean: there is no "stop" button for the iPods, other than holding long play for "not *quite* long enough to shut the player down" |
| 09:38:38 | Llorean | Though this was primarily a 1g |
| 09:38:48 | Llorean | S_a_i_n_t: Yes, but that wouldn't be "pseudo" which is why I was asking. |
| 09:39:00 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r26506): Theme Editor: Added syntax highlighting |
| 09:39:04 | pixelma | funman: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8443?getfile=16130 and http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8443?getfile=16133 for an explanation what I mean with the difference between bitmaps if they should look a bit 3D-y |
| 09:39:09 | JdGordon | I cant say I've ever had issues with stopping on my mini2g, although I do admit i usually pause and let shutdown timer turn the thing off |
| 09:39:10 | S_a_i_n_t | Well, yeah...not the best wording I guess. |
| 09:39:25 | pixelma | funman: between normal and inverted display |
| 09:39:44 | Llorean | S_a_i_n_t: If you have "fade on stop" enabled, you may be holding stop longer than you actually need to |
| 09:39:50 | S_a_i_n_t | I just *really* want long-play to *not* shut down the player...but I don't even know where to start. |
| 09:39:54 | Llorean | By the time you hear it stopping, you've held it down quite a bit too long with fade, often enough |
| 09:40:01 | S_a_i_n_t | It doesn't appear to be in the keymaps. |
| 09:40:08 | JdGordon | bieber: AWESOME! I'm not a fan of the comment green.. but DAMN! |
| 09:40:22 | funman | pixelma: not sure i notice any difference |
| 09:40:25 | bieber | Yeah, colors are COMPLETELY provisional |
| 09:40:44 | S_a_i_n_t | Llorean: Which "stop" button are you reffering to? ;) |
| 09:40:46 | bieber | I just threw some values in there to test it out with. Everything looking okay so far, other than color choice? :) |
| 09:41:11 | JdGordon | I think so |
| 09:41:24 | pixelma | funman: look at the bars - on the inverted display of the MRobe, the dark part (the "shadow") is now on the bottom side - compare to the Clip currently |
| 09:41:32 | funman | would you do me a favor and tell me where can i find wps tags description? |
| 09:41:47 | Llorean | S_a_i_n_t: the only one the iPod has, long play |
| 09:42:10 | funman | pixelma: ah so you'd invert all the image? |
| 09:42:12 | Llorean | You'll not I didn't say "the stop button" but rather just "stop" referring to the function. :-P |
| 09:42:14 | Llorean | *note |
| 09:42:16 | S_a_i_n_t | I 'd always assumed that was a side effect, as far as I know...it's not doccumented. |
| 09:42:43 | Llorean | What's a side effect? |
| 09:42:54 | JdGordon | bieber: it doesnt auto update the tree anymore with text? |
| 09:42:57 | Llorean | Stopping playback on long-play is intentional. I could've sworn it was documented in the past. |
| 09:43:06 | S_a_i_n_t | "stopping playback" |
| 09:43:10 | pixelma | funman: it's not a simple inverting of the images.... and CustomWPS in the wiki is probably the most up-to-date |
| 09:43:16 | S_a_i_n_t | I don't *think* it's in the manual. |
| 09:43:22 | bieber | JdGordon: It should still auto-update, but only when you have a valid parse tree |
| 09:43:30 | bieber | If it doesn't update, it means it's not parsing right |
| 09:44:04 | JdGordon | cool, I was going to ask if it was possible to show the area where it stops parseing if there is a error? |
| 09:44:07 | pixelma | funman: or the source otherwise (there is one file which has them in a list more or less, I always forget its name) |
| 09:44:21 | Llorean | S_a_i_n_t: See page 25 of the iPod Nano G1 manual |
| 09:45:26 | pixelma | manuals available again? Nice :) |
| 09:45:58 | bieber | Once I get the rest of the GUI together, I'm going to rework the error function to allow it to change the stream it sends errors to, so I can capture the messages and highlight an error'd out line |
| 09:46:56 | JdGordon | how far is the gui going to go? I cant remember if the final goal was a output window also? |
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| 09:49:28 | funman | pixelma: http://i.imgur.com/JwBC9.png |
| 09:49:41 | bieber | Yes, there will be an output window |
| 09:50:32 | bieber | I should be finished with the skeleton of the GUI about a week from today, and that should have a file browser, text edit area, parse tree view, and an output pane |
| 09:50:44 | bieber | But the output pane won't be functional yet, of course |
| 09:50:49 | funman | I just moved the tag info vp 2 px down and added the Next tag |
| 09:51:14 | pixelma | funman: better, I'd still like to see the script fixed too though |
| 09:51:23 | funman | what do you mean? |
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| 09:54:10 | pixelma | that somewps-128x64x1-sansaclip.wps would also be used for Clipv2 and Clip+. I won't object to changing the usual 128x64x1 version now, added next track info is a valuable information... |
| 09:54:27 | funman | pixelma: well i would want to just remove sansaclip.wps and use the iriver wps |
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| 09:54:50 | funman | the screenshots show the (modified) iriver wps |
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| 09:55:21 | funman | if the iriver screenshot is good for you i guess it's ok |
| 09:55:52 | pixelma | although one can ask now why this one now differs that much from the Archos variant which is same height. |
| 09:56:11 | JdGordon | because of the yellow |
| 09:56:29 | pixelma | before this we had the font size excuse |
| 09:56:32 | funman | perhaps i'm trying to enlarge the progress bar to 8 pixels |
| 09:56:48 | pixelma | well, the Iriver remote doesn't have the yellow |
| 09:56:53 | funman | s/perhaps// |
| 09:57:05 | funman | different font? i don't know how the archos look |
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| 09:58:10 | JdGordon | the issue used to be that the iriver main screen used a bigger font which wasnt usable on the archos |
| 09:58:24 | pixelma | I mean: before your change today we used a different font for the Iriver remote (because it wasn't possible when cabbiev2 was created to use something else than the main screen) |
| 09:58:26 | JdGordon | now we can use multifont or 2 seperate fonts so that is a moot point |
| 09:58:56 | pixelma | now the 64 pixels tall screens use all the same font |
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| 09:59:19 | funman | http://i.imgur.com/wck3R.png |
| 09:59:52 | funman | the "NOW PLAYING" text is badly redimensioned though |
| 09:59:56 | funman | from 4px to 6px |
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| 10:00:31 | funman | and perhaps 1 px empty line between progress bar and title would be good |
| 10:00:44 | pixelma | it also looks too crammed, I wouldn't change it |
| 10:01:17 | pixelma | the text "sticks" at the progress bar |
| 10:02:24 | funman | you mean it is too close to the borders of the bar ? |
| 10:02:45 | pixelma | yes |
| 10:03:12 | funman | it's the same absolute distance in SVN but not the same relative distance |
| 10:03:51 | pixelma | sorry, I can't parse that |
| 10:04:10 | funman | it's 1 pixel away from the border, both with and without the patch |
| 10:04:26 | funman | but relative to the progressbar height, with the patch it looks closer |
| 10:04:59 | pixelma | well, probably the larger font includes a bit of spacing at the top (in itself) |
| 10:05:36 | pixelma | ah no |
| 10:07:20 | pixelma | funman: I would just care about the spacing between bar and text and there needs to be at least one line IMO, no matter where it comes from |
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| 10:16:22 | funman | http://i.imgur.com/3RjFx.png |
| 10:17:06 | funman | i made the pb 1px higher and added a black line at the bottom (i modified the right end but it's not shown) |
| 10:18:08 | pixelma | I still prefer the original 4px one |
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| 10:19:06 | literal | I'm using a Rockbox with a bootloader. If I want to downgrade the Rockbox firmware, what do I need to compile/replace? |
| 10:19:09 | funman | 2 pixels space between pb and title is ok ? |
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| 10:19:19 | funman | literal: .rockbox directory, no need to touch bootloader |
| 10:19:26 | literal | Ok, cool |
| 10:19:55 | funman | pixelma: http://pastie.org/990191 looks ok? |
| 10:20:21 | funman | perhaps i can move the pb 1 pixel down |
| 10:22:36 | funman | http://pastie.org/990191 (edited) looks like http://i.imgur.com/bO8IA.png |
| 10:24:46 | literal | GodEater: Yup, I can confirm that r26177 sounds perfect. |
| 10:24:51 | literal | Commencing binary search... |
| 10:27:18 | funman | literal: you know git bisect, right? |
| 10:27:52 | literal | that's exactly what I'm doing :) |
| 10:27:56 | funman | nice :) |
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| 10:35:45 | funman | literal: if you build revisions later than r26253 you only need to run make bin & copy rockbox.sansa to .rockbox |
| 10:36:03 | literal | ok |
| 10:45:56 | pixelma | funman: did you look at it on a real display? The greyscale and monochrome screens usually don't use the full display all the way to the casing and so have some "spacing" included already. The shifted down version doesn't look so nice from what I can tell by your screenshots |
| 10:46:35 | pixelma | the sim doesn't represent this very well |
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| 10:51:36 | pixelma | I'm not sure if the Clips' OLED is the same though |
| 10:53:36 | literal | if only there were a way to stop the OF from rebuilding its DB |
| 10:53:50 | literal | I need to wait for it twice whenever I plug in the player |
| 10:54:01 | B4gder | http://code.google.com/p/andless/ <= the references Android player using Rockbox codec(s) |
| 10:54:04 | B4gder | referenced |
| 10:54:12 | literal | once because some rockbox file has changed, then again after transfering files over USB |
| 10:55:39 | CIA-6 | New commit by jethead71 (r26507): More FFT fun: No point in computing and combining the 2nd FFT if it's just being made null. Use the regular complex FFT (called by fftr anyway) and ... |
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| 11:08:16 | funman | pixelma: will check, but it's the same spacing than bottom |
| 11:09:00 | funman | looks fine |
| 11:11:00 | pixelma | I just think it isn't needed and would look better at the top, not shifted down - at least on the Iriver remotes which is why it's been this way |
| 11:11:18 | funman | so we keep 2 px space between the bar and the title? |
| 11:11:59 | pixelma | from what I can tell by the screenshots I'd prefer it this wax |
| 11:12:05 | pixelma | err... way |
| 11:12:10 | funman | can i commit then? |
| 11:12:42 | funman | the change is just move tag info 2 pixels down and add Next tag |
| 11:13:07 | funman | hm perhaps i can make it better |
| 11:13:16 | funman | and add 1 pixel space between text lines |
| 11:15:06 | funman | not sure if it can be made without a viewport for each tag |
| 11:16:17 | pixelma | I actually considered working on cabbiev2 anyways during DevCon as there is also some "code" cleanup possible and all should get the accurate dB display when changing volume that the Clip version has, and there are also SBSs and FMSs missing |
| 11:17:29 | JdGordon | cabbie could really do with a sbs on tall and wide screens (disabled when there is no music playing).... |
| 11:17:45 | pixelma | you can only add spacing between lines if you put each line in an own viewport or chose a bigger font (not necessarily 1 pixel more spacing but maybe a better "distribution" across the screen) |
| 11:18:20 | JdGordon | Zagor_: is the flyspray theme changed at all? my account seems to have a nice bug and I have no idea if the bug is a FS one or a theme on or something |
| 11:18:21 | funman | hm ok |
| 11:18:31 | funman | that means we have 4 pixels left |
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| 11:18:59 | Zagor_ | JdGordon: no I haven't touched it in months. the only change is that it now runs in php-cgi instead of mod_php |
| 11:19:22 | Zagor_ | ...and spamming tons of segmentation fault messages to the kernel log :( |
| 11:19:36 | JdGordon | it is showing "jdgordon" instead of times everywhere for me when I'm logged in |
| 11:20:39 | Zagor_ | hmm, we've seen that before. can't recall what it was though... |
| 11:22:02 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r26508): cabbiev2 128x64x1 wps (iriver remote wps): add more info to the screen ... |
| 11:22:18 | funman | i'll ask bertrik if he's ok using this wps |
| 11:22:23 | funman | (on the clips=) |
| 11:24:31 | funman | who's the lua person if not mcuelenaere ? |
| 11:32:31 | literal | what does WPS stand for? |
| 11:32:56 | JdGordon | while playing screen/skin |
| 11:33:01 | literal | ok |
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| 11:44:12 | literal | Is any progress being made on USB transfer support for Sansa players? |
| 11:45:18 | funman | yes (for Sansa AMS, the others work fine already) |
| 11:45:32 | literal | yeah, meant Sansa AMS |
| 11:47:13 | JdGordon | pixelma: wpsbuild.pl lets you use a 4bit (or 2bit or mono) .wps with a 16bit display? is that ever actually used? |
| 11:48:38 | JdGordon | hmm... crap, seems it might be |
| 11:49:00 | JdGordon | also what is happening with the wps' in svn? wern't we going to delete them apart from cabbie? |
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| 12:04:24 | literal | hm, Rockbox handles version 2.3 and 2.4 of the ID3 genre tag differently |
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| 12:05:18 | literal | if it's 2.3, the genre shoes up as "Soundtrack", but if it's 2.4, the genre shows up as "(24) Soundtrack" |
| 12:05:24 | literal | shows* |
| 12:06:19 | literal | it shouldn't show the (id) |
| 12:06:38 | B4gder | id3 is a miserable "standard" imho |
| 12:07:09 | literal | many programs/players don't handle ID3 v2.4 correctly yet, so this is excusable |
| 12:07:22 | literal | I'll stick to v2.3 for now |
| 12:07:40 | pixelma | JdGordon: yes it's used for the 160x128 colour displays which can use some of the ones created for H100 etc. first (DancePuffDuo, iAmp and the like). And yes, the plan was to remove the shipped ones except cabbiev2 as soon as all are uploaded to the theme site which they aren't yet |
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| 12:17:54 | Torne | 2.3 doesn't do UTF-8 though, which is kinda annoying :) |
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| 12:21:31 | Buschel | wincent, you there? |
| 12:22:22 | wincent | Buschel: Indeed. |
| 12:23:04 | Buschel | can you check a potential fix in the cos/osc area of pdbox? |
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| 12:24:08 | wincent | Buschel: Because you do not have SVN access? |
| 12:24:25 | Buschel | no, just to have you reviewed it -> http://www.pastebin.org/302564 |
| 12:25:16 | Buschel | the interpolation in the cos~ application was wrong. I also deleted the tabs in both files |
| 12:25:48 | wincent | Buschel: Now this is interesting! |
| 12:25:50 | Buschel | btw, is the precision to low when not interpolating? the interpolation will slow down the generation a lot |
| 12:26:49 | Buschel | I would just drop the interpolation as the precision of the phase is 18 bit |
| 12:26:58 | Buschel | which is quite a lot |
| 12:27:59 | wincent | Buschel: I promise to look at it somewhat later. At this moment I've got to go. Are you ok with this? |
| 12:28:15 | Buschel | of course :) |
| 12:28:57 | wincent | Buschel: Talk to you later then. |
| 12:29:49 | Buschel | btw, instead of using your own mult() you should take a look at the arm/coldfire asm functions in the codeclib. those will be way faster. I'll create a small example for arm and place a link here |
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| 12:38:00 | kugel | Buschel: why are you so keen on deleting tabs? we generally don't change the style of imported code |
| 12:39:42 | ssorgatem | wincent: pdbox doesn't build with eabi toolchain |
| 12:41:00 | Buschel | kugel: just personal dislike... and it doesn't hurt if we delete tabs on files we're submitting because of other changes |
| 12:41:07 | Buschel | my opinion of course... |
| 12:42:17 | kugel | Buschel: wincent did hard to maintain ease of backporting upstream changes (#ifdef ROCKBOX everywhere), those tab removals make it hard |
| 12:43:12 | Buschel | well, up to him what he wants to do with the fix. |
| 12:44:18 | kugel | Buschel: docs/CONTRIBUTING says to not change imported code unless really needed |
| 12:45:30 | n1s | IIUC diff can be told to ignore whitespace changes so it shouldn't be that big a problem |
| 12:55:18 | funman | ranma: no battery life diff on fuzev1 (or not noticeable) |
| 12:55:26 | funman | it ran for 14h40 |
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| 13:06:30 | Buschel | wincent: http://www.pastebin.org/302617 -> also adds arm asm for mult. |
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| 13:08:03 | Buschel | wincent: pdbox does not link on ipod video because the ram is full. if you only use 1/4 of the cos_tab pdbox fits into ram. it is possible to only define 1/4 of this tab and use the symmetry of cos for the calculation... |
| 13:08:10 | Buschel | will be back later |
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| 13:09:29 | ranma | funman: Then it was probably just the hung lcd. I've run a partial (2 hour) bench without the patch, finished recharging and started a new bench with the patch I'll run about 2 hours and the compare the logs. |
| 13:10:42 | ranma | I also went to Handaduke Cafe in Akihabara and repaired the Clip+ jtag and also added two wires to the 'unbrick' pads since I'd like to check which gpio pins those are. |
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| 13:38:26 | S_a_i_n_t | I was of the understanding that all the "shipped" themes *were* uploaded to the themesite already.....? |
| 13:38:42 | S_a_i_n_t | Someone went to the effort of doing that some time ago. |
| 13:39:26 | S_a_i_n_t | RE:[22:07] <pixelma> ... And yes, the plan was to remove the shipped ones except cabbiev2 as soon as all are uploaded to the theme site which they aren't yet... |
| 13:39:45 | S_a_i_n_t | What ones are missing? |
| 13:43:09 | wincent | ssorgatem: What errors does the build system tell? |
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| 13:44:06 | ucchan | Unhelpul login? |
| 13:45:11 | ucchan | I update embed aa patch now (FS #11216). |
| 13:46:15 | ucchan | please confirm many targets/users. |
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| 13:48:26 | wincent | Buschel: Please try to preserve original formatting, if it is possible. The reason was already explained by kugel, as the version of the PD core in pdbox is 0.37 and there is an effort en route to update it to 0.43, so that preserved formatting eases the backporting. |
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| 13:52:57 | pixelma | S_a_i_n_t: all greyscale and monochrome ones IIRC |
| 13:56:09 | pixelma | also packaging the RWPSs isn't done very well yet, I had an idea and try to convince domonoky about it the next days ;) |
| 13:56:53 | wincent | Buschel: Interpolation for cos~ object might be needed, or maybe not. Much more interesting is your optimization of multiplication. |
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| 13:59:59 | wincent | Buschel: By the way, would you like to implement the cos~ and osc~ objects working with 1/4 of the cosine table? |
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| 14:03:32 | ssorgatem | wincent: http://pastie.org/990355 |
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| 14:07:55 | wincent | ssorgatem: And what does the function abort() do there? |
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| 14:08:25 | ssorgatem | wincent: ? I don't know |
| 14:11:34 | wincent | ssorgatem: I do not see any reference to abort() in m_class.c . That's why I asked in the first place. |
| 14:12:26 | wincent | Does anybody know why there are references to abort() when compiling with EABI toolchain? |
| 14:12:40 | ssorgatem | weird |
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| 14:13:18 | ssorgatem | oh |
| 14:13:38 | ssorgatem | I forgot to paste some other warning which happen earlier when compiling |
| 14:15:01 | ssorgatem | wincent: http://pastebin.com/x5w7tygU |
| 14:18:19 | wincent | ssorgatem: It seems that EABI toolchain has problems with arguments lists with variable length. |
| 14:18:24 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26509): Add a new script to build the themes. WIP and heavily based on wpsbuild.pl |
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| 14:25:21 | Torne | wincent: you're probably getting exception unwinding tables from somewhere? |
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| 14:25:31 | Torne | wincent: that can involve references to fun random symbols defined by the ABI |
| 14:27:54 | wincent | Torne: Do you suggest that the whole EABI mess comes from the too big cosine table? |
| 14:28:06 | Torne | what? |
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| 14:29:07 | Torne | something is probably accidentally compiled with exception handling turned on |
| 14:29:16 | wincent | Torne: What do mean with "unwinding tables"? |
| 14:29:21 | Torne | this causes the EABI toolchain to emit .eh_frame and similar unwinding sections |
| 14:29:21 | kugel | Torne: the way we build it with rockboxdev.sh should remove all unwind&exception stuff |
| 14:29:34 | Torne | some of these refer to symbols like abort() |
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| 14:31:00 | wincent | ssorgatem, Torne: I am afraid the help for this problem should involve someone much more knowledgeable about EABI toolchain than myself. |
| 14:31:43 | ssorgatem | wincent: i can't even code in C, i'm only a tester |
| 14:35:18 | JdGordon | pixelma: does this look like all the theme settings? http://pastebin.com/0Xkz6vKc (left side of => is the setting name in WPSLIST, right side is setting name in the .cfg) |
| 14:36:12 | wincent | ssorgatem: Nevertheless you've provided enough information for this problem to guess it's cause. IMO good job. |
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| 14:50:09 | Buschel | wincent: http://www.pastebin.org/302863 -> this one only changes the formatting within the while-loop. this way it can be easily spotted that both loops are nearly identical in cos~ and osc~. I also made some thoughts about the interpolation again and came to the conclusion the the logic was false. can you please test this? |
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| 14:51:40 | * | JdGordon 's awesome new themebuild script is almost ready :) |
| 14:51:48 | Buschel | wincent: the fastest way to reduce the table would be to only keep each 4th value and reduce ILOGCOSTABSIZE to 13. this way all the logic will still work fine. furthermore we can try to put the cos_tab to iram which will speed up the generator a lot. |
| 14:52:12 | wincent | Buschel: The problem is that cos~ is rarely used. |
| 14:52:29 | wincent | Buschel: They tend to use osc~ instead. |
| 14:53:29 | wincent | Buschel: I thought of this way of reducing table's size. |
| 14:54:20 | wincent | Buschel: What size of IRAM does the platform you are aiming at have? |
| 14:55:08 | Buschel | wincent: well, no both osc~ and cos~ would be in sync. can you provide me a patch that would only keep each 4th cos_tab? |
| 14:55:38 | Buschel | wincent: I am using iPod video with plugin IRAM size = 80 KB |
| 14:56:20 | Stummi | is there something such a simulator or a vm for the bootloader? |
| 14:56:25 | Buschel | for better compatiblity wiht with other targets you should better asume 48KB of IRAM |
| 14:57:24 | wincent | Buschel: Like in H320, which is my testing platform. |
| 14:58:16 | Torne | Stummi: no, there would be no point really |
| 14:58:32 | Torne | Stummi: the simulator exists to simulate the app layer.. the bootloader doesn't have the app layer. |
| 14:58:49 | wincent | Buschel: "each 4th" means a cos_tab with a size of one quarter of the current one? |
| 14:59:23 | Buschel | yes, and just keep values with indices 0,4,8, ... |
| 14:59:35 | Stummi | Torne, what can i do, if i want to check, if a modified bootloader works without possibly breaking my player? |
| 14:59:45 | Torne | you can't, by definition |
| 14:59:56 | Stummi | hm |
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| 15:00:00 | Torne | unless it's one of the players that can't be broken by our code |
| 15:00:24 | Torne | The simulator doesn't include any of the actual hardware, so there's no way to know if hardware-dependent stuff will actually work |
| 15:01:29 | Stummi | ok |
| 15:01:58 | wincent | Buschel: there is a file makecostab.c in pdbox/PDa/src . Would you like to use it by yourself? |
| 15:02:09 | Stummi | but anyway, a full-fledged virtual machine to emulate a player would be a nice thing ;) |
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| 15:04:01 | kio | hi, when I mount my sansa_e280v2 on my linux desktop, I can't see the microsdhc card, but when I boot the player, I would see something like <mircoSD1> from the files menu, how can i see that card when connecting via the usb cable? currently I have to take the card out, use the usb controler and copy files there. |
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| 15:06:20 | Torne | Stummi: We don't have enough hardware details for any of the players for such a thing to be accurate |
| 15:06:43 | Torne | Stummi: even on the players where the components are publically documented, we don't know for certain every detail of how they are connected, what timing parameters might be too fast/slow, etc |
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| 15:06:59 | Torne | so you can never prove that something is safe using an emulator.. |
| 15:07:09 | mc2739 | kio: that is probably a problem with your linux kernel not having lun support |
| 15:07:28 | Torne | Stummi: what player is it, and what have you done to the bootloader? |
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| 15:08:20 | kio | mc2739, when I plugin the player, it does mount (via hal ) and I can see the file system on the player, but the card is not visible |
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| 15:09:17 | Stummi | Torne, i have a Sansa Fuse V2 Running on Rockbox since yesterday. And i didn't do something with the loader to yet, but i like the project and thinking about learning to hack rockbox. |
| 15:09:29 | Buschel | wincent: I made an error in my last posted patch. please use this one -> http://www.pastebin.org/302934 |
| 15:09:39 | Torne | Well, generally as long as you don't touch the dualboot code, which is in a separate file, you should be okay |
| 15:09:40 | mc2739 | kio: for the card to be visible, your kernel needs to have lun support. |
| 15:10:01 | Torne | Even if you break the bootloader itself, as long as the dualboot stub is working you should be able to start the Sansa firmware |
| 15:10:05 | Torne | and then you can install a new bootloader. |
| 15:10:14 | Torne | so it's not 100% safe, but it's not super risky either |
| 15:10:46 | Stummi | I thought about start in little-steps, such as inserting a "Hello World"-Line at booting to get to know the project |
| 15:11:28 | Stummi | this shall be something, where is the risk to break something not too high :p |
| 15:12:16 | kio | mc2739, ok, thx, i'll check the the kernel. |
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| 15:13:30 | kio | mc2739, by lun, it's CONFIG_SCSI_MULTILUN ? |
| 15:13:48 | Torne | Stummi: Oh, you don't have a specific thing in mind? |
| 15:13:55 | Torne | Stummi: Don't modify the bootloader at all then... |
| 15:14:16 | Torne | you can modify the main app all you like and that can't possibly break the ability to dualboot and recover in the OF |
| 15:14:34 | Torne | if you want to do something "at boot" do it in the main app's initialisation, not the bootloader.. |
| 15:14:50 | kio | ok, to answer my own question. yes it is. :) |
| 15:16:14 | Stummi | Torne, ok |
| 15:17:06 | Torne | Stummi: needing to modify the bootloader is pretty infrequent even for the people working on the main porting effort |
| 15:17:18 | Torne | if you just want to learn to work on rockbox the application is much more interesting :) |
| 15:18:23 | Stummi | ok :) |
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| 15:32:15 | CIA-6 | New commit by teru (r26510): Correct reusing buffers if the backdrop file is already loaded. ... |
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| 15:44:42 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26511): almost finished... copy fonts, backdrops, icon files, skins. last thing to do is copy the images from inside the skins |
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| 15:45:07 | mc2739 | kio: I believe that is the correct setting - but this is not really Rockbox related and is therefore off-topic for this channel |
| 15:49:15 | Buschel | wincent: I uploaded three patches to a new flyspray entry FS #11348. 1) cos~/osc~ fix 2) mult asm 3) smaller cos_table put to iram |
| 15:51:59 | wincent | Buschel: Will try it out. I will post result as comment for the patch. |
| 15:52:50 | Buschel | thanks |
| 15:55:46 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r26512): sd-as3525v1: do not disable peripheral clocks in sd_enable() ... |
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| 15:59:34 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26513): copy the images for the skins. |
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| 16:01:38 | JdGordon | can someone with some time and perl skills review tools/buildtheme.pl and check for anythig totally retarted? |
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| 16:04:30 | funman | release day!! |
| 16:07:08 | Rob2223 | release day? |
| 16:09:13 | ranma | BTW Radio works on my Clip+ here |
| 16:09:53 | funman | r0b-: where do you live? |
| 16:10:35 | funman | perhaps you can exchange clip+ with a dev |
| 16:10:41 | n1s | Torne: wouldn't roloing the new bootloader at least be somewhat useful as a test (assuming it can be roloed)? |
| 16:11:15 | n1s | unless the bootloader is compiled to execute in place of course |
| 16:11:52 | funman | you should put all hardware into reset state to be sure |
| 16:12:49 | n1s | right |
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| 16:12:59 | n1s | it probably isn't a very good test |
| 16:13:30 | funman | no i think it's a good idea but it requires some work to 'undo' system_init |
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| 16:26:47 | Torne | n1s: the bootloader is not necessarily compiled to run at the same base address, no |
| 16:27:04 | Torne | n1s: and on samsa it's in flash so i'd expect at least the start to run xip |
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| 16:59:03 | funman | xip? |
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| 17:11:00 | simonrvn | kwe (hi). rev 26513 the pdbox app build dies with such things as "m_class.c:(.text+0xff8): undefined reference to `abort'" at the LD stage, and warnings above that. (pastebinning) |
| 17:11:36 | funman | gcc eabi? |
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| 17:13:39 | simonrvn | http://is.gd/cB7KV |
| 17:13:41 | simonrvn | yes |
| 17:13:45 | simonrvn | arm |
| 17:13:54 | simonrvn | (it's for a fuzev2) |
| 17:14:34 | simonrvn | http:/ /paste.pocoo.org/show/221476/ (sorry about the shortened URL, forgot about that autoshorten script...) |
| 17:14:44 | wincent | Somuch about EABI toolchain... |
| 17:14:58 | funman | i'm trying to build it here |
| 17:15:41 | simonrvn | i used the rockbox script. it built fine. that was last week IIRC. |
| 17:16:38 | funman | ah pdbox is using typedefed enums |
| 17:17:08 | simonrvn | eh, i've had issues with those in the past in other projects... |
| 17:17:59 | simonrvn | (i don't write C, so it was someone else's work =) |
| 17:18:36 | funman | aborts are close to va_arg(ap, t_atomtype) (t_atomtype is a typedefed enum) |
| 17:18:43 | wincent | funman: What is the difference? |
| 17:19:07 | wincent | funman: ... between typedefed and untypedefed enums? |
| 17:19:29 | funman | i think the problem is that eabi gives different types to enums |
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| 17:19:57 | funman | see r26368 for doom |
| 17:20:35 | kugel | you basically can't use enums for va_arg because IIRC there are rules for va_arg casting |
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| 17:21:37 | funman | http://pastie.org/990630 works for me |
| 17:22:17 | simonrvn | can't see that in w3m :/ |
| 17:22:40 | kugel | casting manually to int in the variable arguments lists in question should also work |
| 17:22:55 | funman | simonrvn: patches didn't exist in 1960 anyway |
| 17:23:09 | simonrvn | heh |
| 17:23:37 | wincent | funman: Will you make the changes to typedefs? |
| 17:23:42 | simonrvn | oh it's ok |
| 17:23:55 | simonrvn | i just opened it in epiphany |
| 17:24:02 | simonrvn | thanks though |
| 17:24:32 | kugel | however it should work in this case |
| 17:25:03 | funman | 'va_arg(ap, t_atomtype)' is just abort() for gcc it seems |
| 17:25:05 | kugel | maybe gcc defaults to promoting to int because *printf couldn't handle variable sized enums |
| 17:25:07 | funman | wincent: ok |
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| 17:26:23 | mc2739 | pixelma: have you seen FS #11186 |
| 17:28:02 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r26514): pdbox: fix build on ARM with eabi |
| 17:28:13 | kugel | funman: I think you should just do var_arg(X, int), enums are apprently always promoted (according to some posts found on google) |
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| 17:28:35 | funman | isn't it cleaner this way? |
| 17:29:01 | simonrvn | trying |
| 17:29:34 | kugel | funman: dunno, I don't feel strong about it. typedef int is probably safer though |
| 17:30:05 | pixelma | mc2739: thanks and no I hadn't. It doesn't look very useful though (lots of included but untranslated strings) |
| 17:30:40 | simonrvn | (so far no warnings at all) |
| 17:31:50 | funman | literal: any progress with bisection? |
| 17:32:58 | pixelma | kugel, amiconn, other German native speakers: do you remember the "hotkey" translation discussion? What would you think of "Funktionstaste"? |
| 17:33:00 | simonrvn | successful build |
| 17:33:15 | simonrvn | thank you :) |
| 17:34:12 | kugel | pixelma: I'd just leave it as hotkey, but if it needs a translation I'd go for Tastenkürzel (because that seems more common to me, and the hotkey might not be a single button on some targets) |
| 17:40:44 | pixelma | Tastenkürzelbelegung then? (as the hotkey (combo) itself is fixed, you just set what it can do) |
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| 17:50:52 | ranma | funman: Where do you see the 1.02.09 hw rev on your clip+? |
| 17:51:03 | ranma | I see 'REV13' on the button side of the board |
| 17:51:08 | funman | ranma: OF |
| 17:51:17 | funman | never opened my clip+ |
| 17:51:43 | ranma | Well, since OF won't boot I can't check there :) |
| 17:51:55 | funman | what are you reading then? the ROM code? |
| 17:52:01 | ranma | Yeah, the rom code |
| 17:52:40 | funman | i can try to read/run that |
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| 17:55:03 | ranma | I've sent you an email with my clipplus_rom.bin |
| 17:55:36 | funman | is it 128kb? |
| 17:55:45 | ranma | Yes |
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| 17:57:08 | funman | and 128kB is not 128<<1024, right. /me slaps self |
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| 17:59:24 | ranma | Clip+ bootloader gives me UIE exception when compiled with -Os BTW, -O works fine though. |
| 17:59:58 | funman | IMO no need to worry about bootloaders, we can build them with -O if we do it once every blue moon |
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| 18:00:34 | funman | ranma: my rom is the same |
| 18:02:02 | ranma | With http://pastebin.com/cDrsrPgg I don't have any warnings when compiling rockbox for c200v2 with -Os |
| 18:02:09 | funman | if we disable MMU & clear CCU_MEMMAP bit 0 we could restart from the ROM, but if we set GPIO B4 would it read back as 1 for the ROM too ? |
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| 18:02:27 | funman | i have tried -Os on clipv1 (but not bootloader) and it worked fin etoo |
| 18:03:56 | ranma | The time between setting B4 to 1 and the readback in the rom is likely too long to have it read it back as 1, but it would depend on capacitance I think |
| 18:04:12 | ranma | The pin has a pulldown that discharges the line capacitance |
| 18:04:41 | funman | perhaps we could enable user-doable recovery |
| 18:08:39 | ranma | Nope, didn't work |
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| 18:09:10 | ranma | I set the pin to out, wrote 1 to it, set a breakpoint on the read and restarted the bootloader, but it read back with the bit cleeared |
| 18:10:13 | djzn | hi... wanted to know if wavpack -h files are OK to be played on RockBox |
| 18:12:00 | funman | not sure what -h is but just try |
| 18:12:53 | djzn | -h is for -high |
| 18:12:56 | djzn | compression mode |
| 18:13:11 | djzn | there is normal, high and very high... the very high is not recommended for portables |
| 18:13:24 | djzn | however the high mode, compresses much more than flac -8 |
| 18:14:48 | ranma | funman: I thought of using the gpio for a serial console (as long as usb is not working yet) to output logf |
| 18:15:14 | funman | branching to rom just freeze :/ |
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| 18:16:27 | funman | ranma: is it precise enough? |
| 18:17:18 | funman | someone had dumped the ROM through the LED wires on an e200v2 before storage worked |
| 18:17:18 | funman | but he had to make several reads for error correction |
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| 18:18:14 | ranma | Should be at least if you disable interrupts while writing a char |
| 18:20:47 | funman | hum the "ROM" is writable? |
| 18:21:21 | ranma | Set to cachable in the mmu maybe? |
| 18:21:26 | funman | no |
| 18:21:43 | funman | D1C (loaded by reset vector) disables mmu, caches |
| 18:22:39 | funman | hm they write at 0x81xx not 0x80xx |
| 18:22:47 | ranma | Thats an embedded ram alias |
| 18:22:51 | funman | yeam its iram |
| 18:23:43 | funman | if they don't use mmu we could cheat: copy the ROM somewhere, map it at ROM address, patch the reading of B4 |
| 18:23:58 | funman | but if there is different ROM versions then it won't work |
| 18:24:34 | funman | add a CRC check then? |
| 18:25:03 | ranma | You're thinking of adding that to the bootloader? Like 'hold up for recovery mode'? |
| 18:25:04 | funman | we still have some room in dualboot.S code |
| 18:25:26 | funman | hm it could work in the bootloader too but if the botoloader works then no need for recovery no? |
| 18:25:40 | ranma | Ah, I mean dualboot |
| 18:26:26 | funman | yes that's what I am thinking but I'm not 100% sure of the risks |
| 18:27:16 | funman | i'll keep the idea in my mind i guess :) |
| 18:27:23 | kisak | is it normal for there to be a mildly long delay in starting playback on my Fuzev2? |
| 18:27:24 | ranma | Like accidentally entering recover mode and overwriting the disk :) |
| 18:27:34 | funman | kisak: song has to be loaded from storage first |
| 18:28:03 | funman | ranma: ah true it's possible that someone formats the drive |
| 18:28:07 | kugel | kisak: mildly long is subjective. it shouldnt take longer than 2-3 seconds |
| 18:28:27 | kisak | it feels like it's more than 2-3 seconds |
| 18:28:34 | kisak | more like twice that |
| 18:28:37 | Lear | On a Fuze V2, where are the preinstalled music files located? |
| 18:28:55 | funman | Lear: ask sandisk? |
| 18:28:56 | kisak | Lear: iirc it's in ##MUSIC# |
| 18:29:17 | Lear | I can't see that at all in MSC mode though. |
| 18:29:32 | ssorgatem | you can see them from rockbox |
| 18:29:34 | funman | Lear: just format it |
| 18:29:40 | kisak | Lear: I believe the OF hides it |
| 18:29:46 | ssorgatem | just move them to a folder outside ##MUSIC# |
| 18:30:07 | pixelma | Lear: on the v1 c200 it was in the some SYSTEM subfolder although a MUSIC one existed too |
| 18:30:14 | mc2739 | Lear: the OF hides the ## folders when you connect in msc mode |
| 18:30:22 | ssorgatem | and |
| 18:30:23 | kisak | is it normal for the interface to hang while caching the first song? |
| 18:30:25 | ssorgatem | never |
| 18:30:42 | ssorgatem | nerv nerver never rename the MUSIC folder to ##MUSIC# |
| 18:30:43 | kugel | Lear: you only see it from rockbox |
| 18:30:49 | Lear | Ah. So a reformat then (once I've installed the bootloader). |
| 18:31:15 | kisak | Lear: I used the format option in the OF |
| 18:31:29 | Lear | kisak: That was my plan, yes. |
| 18:31:58 | funman | mkfs.vfat -I works fine too (faster?) |
| 18:33:19 | funman | ranma: i have an idea to make the OF boot on your clip+ |
| 18:33:39 | pixelma | German speaker question: I don't like "zurückspulen" in "Rewind before resume" although that's actually the same as in English (you don't rewind anything on an MP3-Player). Would "Rückschritt" be ok? |
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| 18:34:09 | ranma | zurückspulen is better IMO |
| 18:34:48 | funman | ranma: (OF 1.02.09) revert 0x33E0 and 0x33D4 so it uses SD slot functions for internal, and patch sdslot detection to return false, then format your SD card like interla |
| 18:34:51 | funman | internal* |
| 18:36:02 | funman | change the condition in branch 0x9368 and make 0x2980 return 0 |
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| 18:37:51 | funman | </thread><thread> so anything blocking release? |
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| 18:38:47 | kugel | pixelma: just because it's *technically* not correct? |
| 18:38:51 | pixelma | "untagged"? :\ |
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| 18:39:50 | kugel | I think rewind (and Zurückspulen) is pretty much established in the digital music world too |
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| 18:40:03 | funman | don't you rewind the playback position anyway? |
| 18:40:20 | pixelma | kugel: probably. It just reads weird in my eyes but I'll use it |
| 18:40:32 | funman | even if it's not linked to a physical motion |
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| 18:43:14 | pixelma | any suggestions for "untagged"? I can only think of some Denglish form for it where I don't even know it's correct spelling. Dictionaries suggest "unmarkiert" but that's a bit too general, or not? |
| 18:43:26 | pixelma | s/it's/its |
| 18:44:19 | ranma | Yeah, unmarkiert is too general I think. |
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| 18:45:43 | ranma | "Keine Metadaten" would work |
| 18:46:29 | kugel | or "Ohne Metadaten" |
| 18:46:38 | pixelma | hmm... yeah |
| 18:46:40 | ranma | http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag-Editor |
| 18:46:48 | pixelma | metadatenlos ;) |
| 18:47:53 | funman | bertrik: did you see the changes to the default 128x64x1 cabbiev2 wps i made this morning ? (for the iriver remotes) |
| 18:49:06 | bertrik | no, not yet, I did read some of discussion about the clip specific version of the wps |
| 18:49:23 | ranma | Or just "Kein Tag" |
| 18:49:38 | * | kugel would prefer ohne over keine |
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| 18:49:56 | funman | basically i think we could use the same wps on all 128x64 screens, because now it's nice with the yellow/blue separation of the clip with 8 pixels font |
| 18:49:59 | ranma | Yeah, it's probably better |
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| 18:50:21 | ranma | "Ohne Tag" or "Ohne Metadaten" |
| 18:50:30 | bertrik | funman, yeah would be nice to have the same wps on all targets indeed, I'll have a look |
| 18:50:38 | * | kugel also thinks there's no nice translation for tags |
| 18:50:54 | gevaerts | ranma: "Kein Tag" as in "after sunset"? :) |
| 18:51:05 | Lear | Ugh. Any way to avoid that "refreshing database" step? |
| 18:51:13 | * | funman translated this to 'Unknown' in french |
| 18:51:23 | funman | Lear: no, welcome ;-) |
| 18:51:28 | bertrik | funman, as far as I understood, the clip specific wps wasn't being applied to clip+ and clipv2 either, right? |
| 18:51:46 | pixelma | I go with "ohne Metadaten" - yes and Tag as in tag, and Tag as in day |
| 18:51:47 | funman | Lear: well you can keep power button pressed after unmounting, before unplugging, but i don't know how nice it is wrt the filesystem |
| 18:52:00 | pixelma | although gevaerts said he wouldn't speak German :P |
| 18:52:15 | pixelma | unknown could work too |
| 18:52:16 | kugel | funman: it would be nice if we spotted the code in the OF which detects whether a refresh is needed after usb disconnect |
| 18:52:17 | gevaerts | pixelma: I didn't *speak* it, I only translated! |
| 18:52:28 | funman | bertrik: no, we would need explicit copy to sansaclipv2.wps and sansaclipplus.wps |
| 18:52:38 | Lear | The flashing didn't trigger the select language screen, so that trick can't be used, it seems. |
| 18:52:50 | funman | kugel: i tried, but the strings is dynamically loaded from header blocks so it's not easy to see references |
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| 18:53:50 | funman | kugel: afaik usb driver is already pretty advanced |
| 18:54:11 | kugel | or own usb would be the proper fix of course :) |
| 18:54:35 | funman | re: <Untagged> -> "<Unknown>", I think Windows Media Player uses "Unknown Artist - Unknown Album" for untagged files |
| 18:55:10 | kugel | unknown would probably work best in english as well |
| 18:55:26 | funman | Lear: you mean you have same problem than http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14064.msg167467#msg167467 ? |
| 18:55:43 | funman | kugel: yeah i think so |
| 18:55:50 | funman | at least confuse less translators ;) |
| 18:56:07 | pixelma | "Band %d Frequency" (desc: in sound_menu, hardware equalizer tone controls shelf filter cutoff frequency) <- is that cutoff freuency of e.g. "band 1"? |
| 18:56:26 | funman | we need opinions of english speakers |
| 18:56:41 | pixelma | ok, switching to unknown for the German translation |
| 18:56:54 | pixelma | err... unbekannt ;) |
| 18:57:06 | funman | ;) |
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| 18:57:48 | funman | pixelma: looks like it (reading settings_list.c:576) |
| 18:58:24 | * | kugel packs his samsung yh-j70, hopefully some cf/iriver x/m guru wants to hack on it |
| 18:59:11 | pixelma | I just soo dislike Deppenleerzeichen and would like to reorder the words of "Band %d Frequenz" |
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| 19:00:35 | ranma | "Frequenzband %d" |
| 19:01:30 | pixelma | yeah I thought of Frequenzband but I wasn't sure if that would fit the setting |
| 19:02:15 | ranma | Looking at settings_list.c I think it almost does. |
| 19:02:29 | ranma | Isn't it more like the center frequency of the band? |
| 19:02:31 | Lear | funman: No problem patching. |
| 19:02:37 | Lear | Or flashing. |
| 19:02:44 | kisak | kugel: I'm looking at a 8-10 second delay between selecting music and it coming out the headphones, that includes more than a second for it to stop the currently playing song. Also, it was about 5 seconds from selecting the same song as is playing and it coming out the headphones |
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| 19:03:13 | kisak | (Still refering to the Fuze v2) |
| 19:03:37 | pixelma | ranma: I wasn't sure if it implies some frequency setting for the (frequency) band, not of the "frequency band" |
| 19:04:07 | pixelma | unfortunately I don't know equalizer settings well enough |
| 19:04:40 | kisak | I threw about 5 songs on the player plus about 2775 other audio files which are no more than a minute each |
| 19:05:05 | * | ranma doesn't use eq either |
| 19:06:33 | funman | kisak: from µSD ? |
| 19:06:52 | kisak | funman: I do not have any microSD |
| 19:07:10 | funman | kisak: works fine for me (r26514) |
| 19:07:36 | funman | try disabling your settings one by one to see if they are the problem |
| 19:07:53 | kisak | I have 26458 here |
| 19:08:13 | funman | you should always update your build before reporting bugs in case they have already been fixed |
| 19:09:04 | ssorgatem | How did you translate that "knee" in sound settings? |
| 19:09:46 | kisak | funman: ok, will do after some grub |
| 19:10:45 | ranma | Ok, since it's 'shelf frequency', assuming it's a low-shelf filter it should be the upper boundary frequency of the filter for band %d? |
| 19:11:03 | ranma | (Looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filter_design) |
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| 19:11:42 | bertrik | funman, I think the clip wps looks fine (although I'm not completely sure I'm looking at the right one) |
| 19:12:06 | funman | bertrik: just remove the .sansaclip.wps and run make install to have to good cabbiev2 |
| 19:12:08 | pixelma | why is there "Band %d Gain" and "%d Hz Band Gain"? |
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| 19:12:16 | ranma | "Grenzfrequenz Band %d" |
| 19:12:16 | funman | the one i modified should have "Next: " info |
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| 19:12:38 | funman | I see in r26485 there was a BOM (Byte Order Mask) added in chinese-simp.lang, does langtool handle that, |
| 19:12:55 | pixelma | ranma: thanks, sounds good |
| 19:14:50 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r26515): change version for upcoming 3.6 release |
| 19:15:50 | funman | selecting chinese language still shows language so i guess it works |
| 19:16:00 | funman | still shows chinese* |
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| 19:21:08 | AlexP | Bollocks, release notes |
| 19:21:22 | AlexP | I forgot about those, and doing them is a massive PITA |
| 19:21:29 | AlexP | Ah well, time to get busy I suppose |
| 19:23:12 | bertrik | funman, I find the clip wps a bit weird now that the "x of x" and the track time are no longer shown directly below the progress bar |
| 19:23:20 | pixelma | got the German update almost ready, just a short review and I can commit it |
| 19:23:40 | bertrik | also, I think it showed the volume as a number before |
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| 19:24:50 | amiconn | kugel, pixelma: dict.cc says hotkey -> Hotkey |
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| 19:26:11 | pixelma | hrmm... "mouse mode" etc. was changed to just "mouse" in the USB screen when showing the HID mode, a bit spartanic I'd say |
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| 19:27:17 | pixelma | I'll do the same for German for now though |
| 19:28:36 | bertrik | funman, but I do appreciate any effort to remove the special case for the clip cabbiev2 wps |
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| 19:41:24 | pixelma | some comments on my translation? But quick... http://rockbox.pastebin.ca/1876740 |
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| 19:49:50 | pixelma | ok, 5 minutes |
| 19:54:11 | kugel | pixelma: why s/bildschirm/schirm/? |
| 19:55:53 | pixelma | Bildschirm sounds like something bigger to me (more like monitor) |
| 19:56:31 | pixelma | I actually played with the thought of using "Anzeige" but wanted to stay consistent |
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| 19:58:03 | kugel | I find both weird, but just schirm more |
| 19:58:38 | AlexP | pixelma: Does metronome work on c200 now? So FS #8659 can be closed? |
| 19:58:48 | pixelma | yes |
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| 19:59:22 | AlexP | OK |
| 19:59:28 | gevaerts | But we have "closing old bugs" on the agenda for DevCon! We'll be bored if you close it now! |
| 19:59:30 | kugel | I think Bildschirm for actual displays is fine, I think Anzeige is better for screen as in while playing screen |
| 19:59:48 | AlexP | gevaerts: I want to put it fixed in the release notes :) |
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| 20:00:06 | kugel | there's no need to be consistent if they mean different things IMO |
| 20:01:00 | ranma | funman: I tried your suggested OF mod. |
| 20:01:34 | ranma | It's promising, but something is still not working yet. Do you have a dump of the OF area you can send me? |
| 20:01:47 | funman | ranma: OF area? |
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| 20:02:20 | ranma | The first 0xF0000 sectors of the internal SD, where the OF is stored. |
| 20:02:22 | funman | ah ok |
| 20:02:25 | funman | no i don't :/ |
| 20:02:33 | ranma | IIRC there was some additional data there too, right? |
| 20:02:41 | funman | yeah it was needed for fuzev1 |
| 20:02:51 | funman | JdGordon: you have dumped the OF data when doing recovery ? |
| 20:03:54 | pixelma | kugel: ok, I misremembered. Bildschirm is used for other display settings too , so I'll change it back |
| 20:03:55 | funman | bertrik: i don't know since you made the wps it is up to you (i use another theme personally) |
| 20:04:27 | bertrik | I just modified the existing one a bit for the clip |
| 20:04:27 | pixelma | kugel: Anzeige.. hmm... could work a bit better for those screen designs |
| 20:04:29 | funman | bertrik: perhaps some modifications you have made on clip wps would be nice on iriver remote too |
| 20:06:07 | pixelma | kugel: would it be ok to have "Hotkeyfunktion im WPS", seeing as WPS isn't translated either |
| 20:06:45 | pixelma | Wiedergabebildschirm is just such a long word - and I could keep it in the voice string |
| 20:07:11 | ranma | With the unpatched OF it hangs at 0x3c6c |
| 20:07:16 | pixelma | err... would be Wiedergabeanzeige then but that sounds weird too |
| 20:07:50 | ranma | With the patched OF I get: "target halted in Thumb state due to breakpoint, current mode: Supervisor\ncpsr: 0x00000073 pc: 0x30000000" |
| 20:07:58 | funman | ranma: which version of the OF ? |
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| 20:08:12 | AlexP | Right people, I've done some release notes: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes36 |
| 20:08:19 | AlexP | Please add/edit/whatever |
| 20:08:24 | funman | 30000000 is ok then? it's where we load rockbox.sansa |
| 20:08:25 | ranma | clipplus01.02.09.zip |
| 20:08:44 | funman | AlexP: great |
| 20:08:53 | ranma | I suspect it tried to load some overlay from SD and execute it and that went wrong |
| 20:09:15 | pixelma | AlexP: how long do I have? ;) |
| 20:09:20 | kugel | pixelma: I think so |
| 20:09:24 | funman | ranma: 3c6c is a simple delay? |
| 20:09:28 | ranma | I just put the 16MB firmware without the header onto SD |
| 20:09:41 | funman | you must the whole file |
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| 20:10:04 | ranma | funman: Yeah, some function with a delay and because it spents most of the time in the delay that's where I see it when I halt the cpu. |
| 20:10:07 | AlexP | pixelma: I said "was released" then today's date, so... :) |
| 20:10:23 | ranma | funman: Ah, so including the headers? |
| 20:10:36 | mc2739 | AlexP: under fixed bugs - Core - Nano2G? |
| 20:10:41 | ranma | Let's try that then... |
| 20:11:07 | AlexP | mc2739: Good point |
| 20:12:09 | kugel | we don't have a release for the nano2g, do we? |
| 20:12:09 | AlexP | mc2739: I just went through the commits since 3.5 and took all the ones that mentioned a FS bug fix that were opened before 3.5 without thinking overly |
| 20:12:18 | AlexP | kugel: No, so I've removed it |
| 20:12:41 | AlexP | kugel: He was pointing out that I shouldn't have mentioned a bug fix for a non-release target |
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| 20:13:34 | kugel | oh, I thought he was pointing out the question mark behind Nano2G (because it's detected as wiki word). my bad |
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| 20:13:46 | funman | should i put the freeze bugfix for sansa ams v1 ? |
| 20:13:57 | AlexP | Sure |
| 20:14:00 | mc2739 | yes |
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| 20:14:26 | kugel | if it existed at 3.5 yes, otherwise no IMO |
| 20:14:51 | AlexP | yeah, exactly |
| 20:14:54 | kugel | I'm under the impression it wasn't in 3.5, but I'm not so sure anymore |
| 20:14:55 | funman | i didn't test 3.5 |
| 20:15:10 | funman | the FS# first reported on ~r24000 i think |
| 20:15:16 | CIA-6 | New commit by pixelma (r26516): Update German translation - with the help of Thomas Martitz, Tobias Diedrich and some inspiration from patches in the tracker. |
| 20:15:32 | AlexP | We decided that if things were introduced then fixed within a release cycle that they shouldn't get mentioned as for people going from one release to another they wouldn't have seen it |
| 20:15:54 | funman | yes it says r24000 and 3.5 was around r25000 |
| 20:16:03 | funman | AlexP: true |
| 20:16:05 | AlexP | coolio then :) |
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| 20:16:54 | pixelma | AlexP: still need to port it to the release branch but wanted to wait until the results of the build round are ok |
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| 20:17:05 | AlexP | OK |
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| 20:17:46 | AlexP | Does anyone want to do the things marked FLASH on http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/ReleaseChecklist ? |
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| 20:18:53 | funman | isn't the question: "do we want new flash packages to accompany the release ?" |
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| 20:19:38 | CIA-6 | New commit by pixelma (r26517): Update German translation - with the help of Thomas Martitz, Tobias Diedrich and some inspiration from patches in the tracker. |
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| 20:22:30 | pixelma | there you go. Thanks again kugel and ranma |
| 20:22:46 | kugel | pixelma: you're welcome :) |
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| 20:29:08 | CIA-6 | New commit by ranma (r26518): Using void instead of unsigned char fixes the strict-aliasing warnings with -Os and gets rid of some casts. And we already use void pointer arithmetic ... |
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| 20:42:38 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r26519): Theme Editor: Refactored main window init code, moved parse tree into dock widget |
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| 20:48:08 | pixelma | gevaerts (others): would the D2 be able to use MMCs? |
| 20:49:24 | pixelma | I thought SD and MMC protocol are close enough and since MMCs are the thinner ones I guess it should work with some more or less "simple" changes |
| 20:51:05 | gevaerts | no idea |
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| 20:52:30 | FlynDice | pixelma: i have never actually seen a mmc card but most of the controllers are set up for either/or. Does the mmc card fit in the slot? |
| 20:54:42 | pixelma | FlynDice: it should (but not vice versa as a standard SD is thicker)... gevaerts - you could try with MMCs I have for my Ondio |
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| 21:37:47 | amiconn | Yes, MMC support on SD targets is just a question of protocols |
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| 21:38:22 | amiconn | We could even support SD on Ondios if they would fit |
| 21:38:24 | AlexP | So, what is next for release? |
| 21:43:43 | funman | AlexP: you have the builds/manuals? |
| 21:43:51 | AlexP | nope |
| 21:44:06 | AlexP | I can do that, but not for half an hour or so |
| 21:44:19 | * | funman looks for a fast machine |
| 21:45:07 | funman | 4*3GHz but it runs OSX, is that a problem? |
| 21:45:46 | AlexP | Wouldn't have thought so if everything will build |
| 21:46:32 | funman | should i make the builds then ? |
| 21:47:10 | AlexP | If you could that'd be great |
| 21:47:35 | Jerom | What is a fast machine for you ? |
| 21:49:42 | funman | i just need to build the compilers first |
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| 22:05:57 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r26520): Theme Editor: Mocked up most of the UI, added View menu items for all dockable widgets |
| 22:06:15 | funman | ./release/tarball.sh: line 28: 7zr: command not found |
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| 22:12:19 | * | funman bangs head |
| 22:12:36 | funman | i could build the tarball here but then I don't have a svn checkout |
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| 22:20:58 | AlexP | funman: I can, but still not for a bit sadly :/ |
| 22:22:30 | * | AlexP kicks gevaerts |
| 22:23:20 | funman | it's ok |
| 22:24:54 | bertrik | 7zr is part of package p7zip (if that's any help at all) |
| 22:25:03 | funman | svn: This client is too old to work with working copy 'tools'; please get a newer Subversion client |
| 22:25:07 | funman | ? Oo |
| 22:25:37 | bieber | Any artist types feel like designing an icon for the theme editor? |
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| 22:28:52 | funman | -> building |
| 22:29:09 | gevaerts | AlexP: did I deserve this? |
| 22:30:24 | funman | not sure if i can make manual/voices though |
| 22:31:07 | AlexP | gevaerts: Not in particular :) I was going to ask if you could do a little building, but funman seems to be on it |
| 22:31:56 | funman | Undefined subroutine &main::stablebuilds called at ./tools/release/voices.pl line 76. |
| 22:32:02 | funman | (on osx and linux) |
| 22:32:08 | funman | same for manuals |
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| 22:32:51 | gevaerts | I can do manuals and voices |
| 22:33:07 | gevaerts | Last time people weren't happy about the quality of the voices I built though |
| 22:33:28 | AlexP | They can do them then :) |
| 22:33:42 | gevaerts | funman: same here... |
| 22:37:09 | funman | the scripts have not changed so probably some of their dependancy |
| 22:37:32 | gevaerts | no, they're broken |
| 22:38:10 | funman | hm I see that tools/builds.pm has some version information too |
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| 22:38:55 | funman | however I don't see it being used at all, so we should be good |
| 22:39:21 | gevaerts | It's used on the server |
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| 22:40:21 | gevaerts | funman: the bins are building fine? |
| 22:40:49 | funman | so far yes |
| 22:41:43 | funman | archos, ipods, irivers are done |
| 22:42:32 | funman | funman/rockbox-3.6/">http://jones.videolan.org/~videolan/funman/rockbox-3.6/ |
| 22:43:39 | funman | osx doesn't know about 'xargs' |
| 22:43:58 | gevaerts | huh? |
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| 22:44:42 | funman | ah someone fucked up PATH |
| 22:45:26 | funman | it was in /usr/bin |
| 22:45:43 | funman | gevaerts: do you want to commit fixes for manual/voice scripts? |
| 22:46:05 | gevaerts | yes, but they're not sufficient yet... |
| 22:46:43 | funman | 17 minutes for the builds |
| 22:46:52 | funman | funman/rockbox-3.6/">http://jones.videolan.org/~videolan/funman/rockbox-3.6/ has them all |
| 22:48:08 | CIA-6 | New commit by gevaerts (r26521): Update version |
| 22:48:34 | CIA-6 | New commit by gevaerts (r26522): Half-fix voice and manual build scripts |
| 22:49:30 | funman | should give me some time to see what's wrong with osx xargs (now that i have it in path) |
| 22:50:10 | CIA-6 | New commit by gevaerts (r26523): Half-fix voice and manual build scripts |
| 22:50:17 | CIA-6 | New commit by gevaerts (r26524): Update version |
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| 22:51:20 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r26525): Theme Editor: Added a window icon and made menus alt-navigable |
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| 22:53:41 | funman | ah, it's the gnu cp options |
| 22:53:44 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r26526): Theme Editor: Added missing copyright headers |
| 22:55:33 | CIA-6 | New commit by gevaerts (r26527): Fix voice and manual build scripts |
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| 22:56:28 | CIA-6 | New commit by gevaerts (r26528): Fix voice and manual build scripts |
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| 22:58:39 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r26529): tarball script: use gcp when cp isn't GNU cp |
| 22:59:55 | funman | funman/rockbox-3.6/">http://jones.videolan.org/~videolan/funman/rockbox-3.6/ <- added gigabeatf, iaudios and fonts |
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| 23:01:15 | funman | http://pastebin.org/304603 < md5sums signed by me |
| 23:01:55 | funman | hum fuze build lacks rockbox.sansa |
| 23:03:05 | CIA-6 | New commit by gevaerts (r26530): Fix voice and manual build scripts even more |
| 23:04:05 | CIA-6 | New commit by gevaerts (r26531): Fix voice and manual build scripts even more |
| 23:05:33 | funman | it's there if i build it alone :/ |
| 23:06:39 | funman | gevaerts: if you are making each commit twice, don't bother. we can merge all the commits in trunk later, no? |
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| 23:06:53 | funman | make: vfork: Resource temporarily unavailable |
| 23:06:58 | gevaerts | funman: yes, but every time I think it's the last one! |
| 23:07:09 | gevaerts | Shall I do the bins too? |
| 23:07:13 | funman | no i can redo them |
| 23:07:19 | gevaerts | ok |
| 23:07:24 | funman | or you mean, fix the bins script ? O:-) |
| 23:07:28 | gevaerts | no :) |
| 23:07:40 | gevaerts | That's Bagder's job! He knows perl! |
| 23:08:15 | funman | i'll just remove -j and 2>/dev/null |
| 23:10:22 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r26532): bins.pl script: don't hide errors, they might be useful ... |
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| 23:14:00 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r26533): bins.pl script: don't hide errors, they might be useful ... |
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| 23:14:03 | funman | shall i build the source tarball now? |
| 23:14:27 | funman | make: *** No rule to make target `/Users/videolan/funman/rockbox-3.6/build-archosrecorderv2/pluginbitmaps/rockboxlogo.h', needed by `/Users/videolan/funman/rockbox-3.6/build-archosrecorderv2/apps/plugins/logo.o'. Stop. |
| 23:14:31 | funman | [B[B[Bmake: *** No rule to make target `/Users/videolan/funman/rockbox-3.6/build-archosrecorderv2/pluginbitmaps/rockboxlogo.h', needed by `/Users/videolan/funman/rockbox-3.6/build-archosrecorderv2/apps/plugins/logo.o'. Stop. |
| 23:15:24 | kugel | funman: what make command is that? |
| 23:15:37 | funman | sorry? |
| 23:15:57 | kugel | funman: is that a normal build? |
| 23:16:03 | funman | well yes? |
| 23:16:09 | funman | i'm using bins.pl |
| 23:16:10 | kugel | so 3.6 is broken? |
| 23:16:16 | funman | yes but i can remake the build |
| 23:16:21 | funman | it's a race condition |
| 23:16:31 | funman | cat: /Users/videolan/funman/rockbox-3.6/build-iaudiom3/apps/features: No such file or directory |
| 23:16:38 | * | kugel thought that was connected to "shall i build the source tarball now?" |
| 23:17:24 | funman | hm the 2 errors go together |
| 23:17:40 | funman | also /Users/videolan/funman/rockbox-3.6/apps/plugins/lua/lvm.c:762: warning: visibility attribute not supported in this configuration; ignored |
| 23:18:19 | funman | no target is listed for this (i forgot to use -v) |
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| 23:21:09 | funman | the perl script doesn't error out if make errors |
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| 23:23:42 | funman | iaudiom3 (at least) triggers lua warnings |
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| 23:25:37 | pixelma | I think I saw those visibility attribute warnings in cygwin or crosscompiled sim builds, they don't do harm there |
| 23:25:59 | funman | make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. |
| 23:25:59 | funman | make: *** No rule to make target `zip'. Stop. |
| 23:26:10 | funman | now let's try to find which target it was .. |
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| 23:29:15 | funman | how can I add a client to the buildsystem ? |
| 23:30:08 | mc2739 | funman: tools/builds.pm |
| 23:30:28 | funman | mc2739: i mean a computer :) |
| 23:30:43 | funman | to build targets, not a target to be builtr |
| 23:30:45 | funman | -r |
| 23:32:16 | mc2739 | funman: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/BuildClient |
| 23:32:32 | funman | thanks |
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| 23:35:05 | gevaerts | Manuals and voices at http://files.hostname.be/3.6/ |
| 23:35:48 | AlexP | good work chaps :) |
| 23:36:50 | funman | there is something wrong with the fuze svg in Quick Start |
| 23:36:55 | AlexP | So I guess now it just needs Bagder to stick them on the server |
| 23:37:35 | AlexP | +edit http://download.rockbox.org/daily/build-info |
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| 23:38:26 | funman | c200 looks ok - i am using evince |
| 23:38:26 | AlexP | Does someone fancy tagging it? |
| 23:39:10 | gevaerts | AlexP: IIRC that one is autogenerated |
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| 23:39:24 | mc2739 | i have the web page update queued up to commit whenever you are ready for it |
| 23:39:35 | funman | team work! |
| 23:39:46 | AlexP | gevaerts: OK, I'm just going by http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/ReleaseChecklist |
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| 23:40:26 | gevaerts | AlexP: ask Bagder to make sure I guess |
| 23:40:34 | AlexP | yeah |
| 23:40:42 | AlexP | We need him to move files etc. anyway |
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| 23:41:52 | funman | funman/rockbox-3.6/">http://jones.videolan.org/~videolan/funman/rockbox-3.6/ (gigabeatfx building) |
| 23:42:07 | gevaerts | funman: the fuze svg in Quick Start seems to be fine with xpdf |
| 23:42:17 | Bagder | tell me when the bins are complete |
| 23:42:19 | pixelma | funman: how wrong? |
| 23:42:20 | funman | ok, i checked the html and it was fine |
| 23:42:45 | AlexP | Bagder: yeah sorry, I thought they were |
| 23:43:07 | pixelma | funman: I have a suspicion or two without even looking at it, you can show me tomorrow |
| 23:43:09 | funman | funman/rockbox-3.6/">http://jones.videolan.org/~videolan/funman/rockbox-3.6/ <- all the bins + fonts are there, although please test at least some of them to make sure |
| 23:43:11 | Bagder | tools/builds.pm is what controls what the latest release is called |
| 23:44:27 | funman | pixelma: http://i.imgur.com/fyEvD.png |
| 23:44:35 | funman | 3.6 build works fine on fuze (including voice) |
| 23:46:07 | funman | i'm building the source tarball |
| 23:47:00 | gevaerts | funman: I definitely don't see that with xpdf |
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| 23:47:59 | Bagder | hm there's a lot of RC files in there too |
| 23:48:30 | Bagder | can you (re)move them? |
| 23:48:49 | funman | Bagder: ? |
| 23:49:04 | Bagder | hm |
| 23:49:10 | Bagder | bad argument to wget I guess |
| 23:49:19 | Bagder | weird tool ;-) |
| 23:49:25 | funman | yeah, get curl O:-) |
| 23:50:25 | funman | Bagder: just added rockbox-3.6.7z |
| 23:50:46 | funman | now i'm looking if i can add this machine to buildsystem |
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| 23:53:03 | Bagder | all files in place |
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| 23:53:47 | Track11 | hey |
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| 23:55:44 | pixelma | funman: I can't find anything of the typically troublesome stuff in the svg |
| 23:56:10 | funman | pixelma: probably my pdf viewer |
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| 23:58:14 | funman | what's on rockbox-rbclient mailing list? only there for people not on irc? |
| 23:58:17 | Track11 | Search over two weeks. I need one answer. Got a brand new Sansa Fuze v2 (2.03.31P) . I tested 5 different ways but it did nothing. The Fuze wouldnt start the "flash process".. only "database update" after disconnect /reboot twice.. Will it ever go? sry 4my bad english |
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