| 00:00:56 | funman | on clip+, 17.91dB with DAC, 16.16dB with SUM |
| 00:01:08 | funman | previous number was for clipv2 |
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| 00:04:40 | funman | OF uses 39 (or 40?) steps for volume so unless they do software volume setting they are using SUM output too |
| 00:05:54 | bluebroth3r | bieber: just noticed a minor thing with configuration settings: Rockbox Utility uses "rockbox.org" as organization, while the theme editor uses "Rockbox". I would prefer both using the same (as it's used for the path the configuration gets saved at) |
| 00:06:04 | bluebroth3r | also, IMO those strings shouldn't be translatable. |
| 00:06:24 | gevaerts | bieber: "At the moment, this simply prints a text debug tree. Soon, it will launch a GUI application." in your README file seems outdated :) |
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| 00:06:27 | bluebroth3r | (those as in setOrganizationName() and setApplicationName()) |
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| 00:07:24 | bieber | bluebroth3r: Just changed that, thanks for pointing that out |
| 00:07:50 | bieber | gevaerts: Hehe, yes, I should definitely update that |
| 00:08:31 | bluebroth3r | bieber: have you noticed my comment about the QTabBar orientation earlier? |
| 00:08:41 | bieber | No, let me search for it |
| 00:09:17 | bluebroth3r | you're using a tabbar on the left in the configuration dialog which looks (IMO) strange as programs usually have it at the top (or sometimes bottom) |
| 00:09:45 | bluebroth3r | though I've checked on OS X and it even works :) Never seen a tabbar that's not at the top on OS X :) |
| 00:09:47 | gevaerts | bieber: what sort of comments do you want at this stage? |
| 00:10:55 | * | gevaerts doesn't want to bother people with obvious known issues |
| 00:12:09 | funman | when should I complain about broken themes? |
| 00:12:55 | audio-i | domonoky: looking fine now |
| 00:13:04 | bieber | I can switch the tab bar no problem, I just stuck it on the left to look a little more like preferences dialogs where you have the options groups on the left side |
| 00:13:23 | bieber | btw, could you show me a screenshot of the tab bar on OSX sometime? Does it do that pillbox thing? |
| 00:13:38 | bieber | gevaerts: Anything you notice wrong or want to see done |
| 00:14:11 | bluebroth3r | ah, like those option groups with (usually) rather big icons? |
| 00:14:18 | gevaerts | bieber: when I double-click on a value in the parse tree, it lets me edit it (as it should), but it first clears the existing value |
| 00:14:56 | bieber | bluebroth3r: Yeah, I was just going for that kind of look without actually having the icons. It does look a little odd with the sideways text though, so I'll change it |
| 00:15:49 | S_a_i_n_t | funman: After they've been converted I assume (if they're still broken) |
| 00:16:37 | funman | S_a_i_n_t: cabbiev2 still needs converting ? |
| 00:17:03 | S_a_i_n_t | I don't know :/ Actually...no, it doesn't. |
| 00:17:07 | S_a_i_n_t | Or, shouldn;t. |
| 00:17:17 | S_a_i_n_t | What's wrong with it? |
| 00:18:35 | funman | elapsed time / duration is absent on clip, too low on the screen on fuze |
| 00:19:15 | S_a_i_n_t | Hmmm, that sounds like something that was changed manually. The conversion shouldn't have altered alignment. |
| 00:19:31 | S_a_i_n_t | (changed manually, in error obviously) |
| 00:21:33 | S_a_i_n_t | funman: Try pulling a evision of the WPS you know worked fine, then run skinupdater,exe (utils/skinupdater/) on the wps file. |
| 00:21:50 | S_a_i_n_t | you'll need to do "make" in utils/skinupdater |
| 00:22:15 | S_a_i_n_t | format is ./skinupdater.exe infile outfile |
| 00:22:29 | S_a_i_n_t | *revision |
| 00:22:42 | funman | i'll let that for knowing people |
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| 00:23:25 | bluebroth3r | bieber: http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/mig/albums/rockbox/themeeditor-options2.png |
| 00:23:49 | bieber | gevaerts: I've noticed that before, but I'm not sure how to get it to populate the line with the previous value. I'll probably save figuring that one out for the week after I've got the renderer working |
| 00:24:40 | gevaerts | bieber: yes, it is rather hard to miss :) |
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| 00:27:18 | bieber | bluebroth3r: I'll also change the default font family to monospaced |
| 00:27:22 | funman | ranma: does current revision run on your c200v2? |
| 00:27:51 | funman | black screen here, but bootloader works, it would help bissection if i can find a recent working revision |
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| 00:28:23 | bluebroth3r | bieber: ok, nice. The font isn't much of an issue with settings saved, but anyway :) |
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| 00:30:03 | tkteun | Hi, I've got a small problem... |
| 00:30:44 | * | bluebroth3r goes checking i fthe problem is really small :) |
| 00:31:01 | tkteun | I've installed rockbox on an iPod 5g/Video 30GB and it works perfectly |
| 00:31:32 | tkteun | I accidentally installed it once more and it still works almost perfectly |
| 00:32:03 | * | bluebroth3r still doesn't see a problem here |
| 00:32:11 | tkteun | Now, every time I plug in my WXP it starts connecting as USB drive, but halfway it reboots into Apple USB disk |
| 00:32:26 | tkteun | I already tried all kinds of HID settings |
| 00:32:33 | bluebroth3r | did you install a release build? |
| 00:33:05 | tkteun | Yeah, normal utility build 1.2.6 |
| 00:33:19 | bluebroth3r | no, a release of Rockbox? Or a current build? |
| 00:34:05 | tkteun | it says 3.6 |
| 00:34:11 | tkteun | is that enough |
| 00:34:31 | bluebroth3r | Rockbox releases did reboot into the Apple firmware for USB. AFAIK this is still the case for 3.6 |
| 00:34:45 | bluebroth3r | current builds use Rockbox own USB stack, i.e. don't do the rebooting. |
| 00:34:48 | gevaerts | it is, yes |
| 00:35:23 | bluebroth3r | this is not a small problem but intended behaviour :) |
| 00:35:34 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r26677): Theme Editor: Changed default font to monospaced, changed organization for the application to rockbox.org, moved tab bar in preferences dialog to the ... |
| 00:35:50 | * | bluebroth3r guesses this won't be the case anymore for 3.7 with the charging rework |
| 00:37:37 | tkteun | hmm... so why did it work the first time I tried? |
| 00:37:47 | tkteun | I installed a different version...? |
| 00:38:11 | bluebroth3r | the only explanation would be that you installed a current build, not a release. |
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| 00:39:09 | tkteun | you're saying this would be fixed since June 3 and I accidentally did a manual install the first time? |
| 00:40:25 | bluebroth3r | there isn't anything fixed. The behaviour is intentionally different between Rockbox release and current versions |
| 00:40:53 | bluebroth3r | Rockbox Utility also can install a current version. You need to use the installation dialog though (not the automatic install) |
| 00:42:39 | tkteun | Ahh, so the problem I'm experiencing is a bug in the Utility: "It doesn't show any difference between the quick start and installation tab" |
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| 00:44:01 | bluebroth3r | I don't see a bug there. The installation tab opens a window where you can select which build you want to install (release, current, daily) while the quick start tells you that it will isntall a release. |
| 00:44:02 | tkteun | So the Rockbox USB stack isn't stable enough for a stable release? |
| 00:44:19 | gevaerts | it is |
| 00:44:42 | bluebroth3r | the usb stack is stable enough. The problem is that several targets do not charge when connected to usb, so the usb connection would drain the battery, eventually running the device completely out of power |
| 00:44:44 | gevaerts | But (until yesterday...) the charging code for ipods wasn't finished |
| 00:45:02 | gevaerts | And we prefer stable releases to charge |
| 00:45:07 | bluebroth3r | however, the charging code has been reworked last weekend. So this shouldn't be an issue anymore. |
| 00:45:26 | bieber | bluebroth3r: Does RBUtil deal with zip files, for themes and such? |
| 00:45:31 | tkteun | okay, nice to see you're on top of things |
| 00:45:41 | bluebroth3r | bieber: yes |
| 00:45:55 | bieber | Does Qt have native support, or do you use another library? |
| 00:46:26 | bluebroth3r | bieber: it uses a 3rd party class (in the zip folder) and a bit of wrapping (base/rb(un)zip.*) |
| 00:46:46 | bieber | Okay, thanks |
| 00:47:21 | bluebroth3r | I've wanted to fork that code since a while to add a few improvements. Haven't gotten around until now though |
| 00:47:47 | bluebroth3r | (I'm missing better error reporting and less blocking functionality on folders) |
| 00:49:54 | bluebroth3r | bieber: I'm out for tonight. See you tomorrow |
| 00:50:06 | bieber | See you |
| 00:50:13 | tkteun | Thanks bluebroth3r, for your quick guidance... I'll start looking if anyone is already implementing the video chip |
| 00:50:24 | tkteun | love to see that work |
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| 01:29:07 | kisak | the fsck + a db re-initialization didn't help |
| 01:29:24 | kisak | how do I turn dircache off? |
| 01:33:25 | S_a_i_n_t | kisak: I'd say the manualy is an excellent place to start. |
| 01:33:34 | S_a_i_n_t | argh, "manual" |
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| 01:49:08 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r26679): Theme Editor: Factored out code to skip over enum/arg lists while scanning for children counts, and fixed all of the parsing bugs caused by innacurate ... |
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| 01:51:51 | kisak | ok, so dircache is off, it's "Dir Buffer" that is full |
| 01:51:59 | kisak | my mistake |
| 01:52:32 | gevaerts | ok |
| 01:52:46 | gevaerts | Do you have many files in one directory? |
| 01:53:00 | kisak | I do |
| 01:53:13 | bieber | JdGordon: I just made some changes to the parser that fixed all of the bugs in the SVN wps files that had to do with argument lists. There were a couple of different edge cases that were causing conditionals and tags to count their children incorrectly, but they're all fixed now. All the remaining bugs deal with tag formats ([type] expected and default-not-allowed errors) |
| 01:53:30 | gevaerts | kisak: You'll want to change the "Max Entries in File Browser" setting then |
| 01:54:13 | kisak | more or less? |
| 01:54:42 | gevaerts | more |
| 01:54:57 | gevaerts | That setting basically says how many files per directory to support |
| 01:56:00 | gevaerts | After that's done, you might want to try if turing dircache on improves performance. On flash players it's probably not noticeable (in which case it's better to turn it off to save memory), but it's worth trying |
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| 02:00:23 | S_a_i_n_t | it *is* noticable on Flash targets...well, I believe so anyhow. |
| 02:01:04 | S_a_i_n_t | Well, I can't speak for all targets, but Nano1/2G are a lot more responsive with DirCache enabled. |
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| 02:01:39 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r26680): Theme Editor: Updated the README file |
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| 02:13:17 | kisak | well the entire directory is listed now |
| 02:13:47 | kisak | at least that's a bonus ... 2800 wasn't good enough, so I set it to 4000 |
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| 02:20:42 | kisak | wow |
| 02:21:05 | kisak | much better, thanks gevaerts |
| 02:21:40 | LinuxGuy2009 | Hello I am an Ubuntu Linux user and am wondering if there is an install tool for my iPod Video 5G and Nano 1Gen, that don't require an internet connection when installing. I already downloaded the Zips for both. Is there a tool that just installs the bootloader or something so I can just extract the zips to the root? |
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| 02:23:01 | kisak | turning dircache on is an epic difference |
| 02:24:38 | LinuxGuy2009 | The reason i ask is I just want to make a CD-R with the install tool and zips and install from there when I want it. |
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| 02:25:29 | gevaerts | LinuxGuy2009: have a look at the install section of the manual. The manual install is what you want |
| 02:25:47 | LinuxGuy2009 | gevaerts: Oh ok. Thank you. |
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| 02:27:50 | kisak | well, starting and switching playback now takes a negligable time |
| 02:29:46 | LinuxGuy2009 | gevaerts: ipodpatcher mentioned in the manual is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you! |
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| 03:12:39 | * | S_a_i_n_t finds that his theme doesn't work at all using the new syntax :/ |
| 03:12:43 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon: ^ |
| 03:13:50 | S_a_i_n_t | Oh, I see...it's messing up sublines :/ |
| 03:14:07 | S_a_i_n_t | putting a % in front of all the ;'s |
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| 03:38:26 | Strife89 | Has anyone used/applied/compiled the most recent wiki viewer patch lately? |
| 03:38:45 | Strife89 | FS #4755 |
| 03:40:02 | Strife89 | I applied it to a clean checkout yesterday (forgot the revision number) and applied it .... but there was one error. |
| 03:40:16 | Strife89 | I attempted to manually correct it and compiled. |
| 03:40:30 | S_a_i_n_t | I'll look when I get a chance if noone else has by then. |
| 03:40:39 | Strife89 | The compile was successful, but I tried to open the .wwi and it simply failed. |
| 03:40:47 | Strife89 | Or rather, nothing happened. |
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| 03:46:44 | S_a_i_n_t | Do the new sims parse the new syntax? |
| 03:46:58 | S_a_i_n_t | I mean, will the produce a decent debug? |
| 03:47:12 | S_a_i_n_t | this is pissing me of. |
| 03:49:37 | literal | hm, new theme syntax? where should I look if I want to update my theme? |
| 03:50:30 | mc2739 | S_a_i_n_t: the new sims fail also. The give a line number, but not the filename. The line number is off by one. |
| 03:50:42 | S_a_i_n_t | as always ;) |
| 03:50:53 | Strife89 | literal: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SkinBreakingChange |
| 03:51:09 | Strife89 | literal: As a start, anyway. |
| 03:51:34 | S_a_i_n_t | literal: The idea is to get the updater to do it for you, but from what I can tell at least one of the tags just doesn't work. :/ |
| 03:51:44 | S_a_i_n_t | also, the updater parses wrong for the moment |
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| 04:10:00 | S_a_i_n_t | Hehe...even Cabbiev2 is broken. |
| 04:10:30 | Strife89 | :/ |
| 04:10:33 | S_a_i_n_t | "Next Track:" is behind the progressbar. |
| 04:11:05 | S_a_i_n_t | commit fast, break often? ;) |
| 04:12:36 | Strife89 | I'm sure y'all just need someone who knows their theme syntax to do the update. |
| 04:12:42 | literal | what fonts are in the "Fonts Package" available in the rockbox utility? |
| 04:12:55 | Strife89 | Essentially, all of them. |
| 04:13:01 | Strife89 | ;) |
| 04:13:04 | S_a_i_n_t | literal: I can think of an easy way to find out. |
| 04:13:24 | literal | true |
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| 04:16:41 | literal | that's a lot of fonts |
| 04:16:57 | S_a_i_n_t | you want fonts? try rashers site. |
| 04:17:02 | S_a_i_n_t | *many* fonts. |
| 04:17:11 | literal | yeah, saw the list there |
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| 04:24:29 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon: http://www.datafilehost.com/download-f8a935e4.html <−− Old Syntax http://www.datafilehost.com/download-0f650b3d.html <−− New Syntax...Even if I manually clean up the New Syntax so it looks right, it still fails. A good example is "%Lt<|>" (I want to turn off the titlebar completely, works in the old syntax, but not in the new). Neither the .sbs or .wps work at all. |
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| 04:31:38 | literal | is the svn->git mirror not being updated or something? the latest commit on it is from 2 days ago |
| 04:33:32 | S_a_i_n_t | well, I can tell you that the last commit was from just over 2 hours ago. |
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| 04:33:56 | S_a_i_n_t | So, somethings fishy, but I don't use git. |
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| 05:07:42 | JdGordon | gevaerts: amiconn: yes bieber's parser is finished but it will take a while to integrate it, all it does it create a parse tree of the text, the core needs to go through that and convert it to something usable (should be much simpler code). no ETA on that |
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| 05:37:11 | S_a_i_n_t | Are there no alignment tags for AA anymore? |
| 05:37:25 | JdGordon | they are optional on the end |
| 05:37:41 | S_a_i_n_t | New syntax seems to be choking on my Cl line, and the wiki doesn't mention alignment for AA anymore :-S |
| 05:37:43 | JdGordon | %Cl(x,y,width,height,xalign,yalign) |
| 05:38:03 | JdGordon | only lcr is accepted for xalign, and tcb for yalign |
| 05:38:07 | JdGordon | I dropped + and - |
| 05:38:22 | S_a_i_n_t | Ahhh...ok, wiki doesn't say it. I can't for the life of me figure out the SIM output. |
| 05:39:27 | S_a_i_n_t | what would "ERR: Failed parsing on line 67 : ERR: Invalid parameter list for token 30: "display preloaded image 'Be'" " mean? |
| 05:39:54 | S_a_i_n_t | line 67 I get, but that could bean 66, 67, or 68 from what I know of the debug output. |
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| 05:44:00 | S_a_i_n_t | man, it's too messed up (debug output from the sim) it makes *no* sense... :/ |
| 05:44:17 | S_a_i_n_t | telling me about errors with backdrop on lines that have nothing to do with backdrop. |
| 05:44:23 | S_a_i_n_t | Sim tells me nothing. |
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| 05:47:47 | thehodapp | If I'd like to help start a new port to ipod nano 5g but can't program in C, what can I do? |
| 05:48:42 | S_a_i_n_t | wisit the wiki, look for NewPort |
| 05:49:22 | thehodapp | well that answers my question...there isn't much I can. |
| 05:49:57 | S_a_i_n_t | If you have no coding skills, not really...test in the event a port comes up is all you can do really. |
| 05:50:27 | thehodapp | ok cool thanks. |
| 05:50:49 | S_a_i_n_t | I don't believe anyone is working on the Nano5G though. |
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| 05:51:40 | S_a_i_n_t | I'm allowed "-" as a viewport param right? |
| 05:52:48 | S_a_i_n_t | I thought it failed because my AA viewport has no FG/BG specification...but if I add it I just get a more cryptic debug output. |
| 05:55:16 | S_a_i_n_t | Argh, and I get a different debug output depending if the theme loads on boot, or is loaded manually. :-S |
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| 05:56:50 | S_a_i_n_t | "%Vl(a,60,43,115,48,1)%Vf(000000)%Vb(FFFFFF)" <−−ERR: Failed parsing on line 67 : ERR: Invalid parameter list for token 30: "backdrop image" huh? |
| 05:57:51 | JdGordon | something is fucked.... |
| 05:58:31 | mc2739 | S_a_i_n_t: if it says 67, check line 68 |
| 05:59:28 | S_a_i_n_t | mc2739; "67" in the sim basically means 66, 67, 68..I've worked out it's that line there by commenting it out, then it goes on to another parse failure ;) |
| 05:59:55 | mc2739 | S_a_i_n_t: what does you line 68 loo like? |
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| 06:00:11 | S_a_i_n_t | I posted it above. |
| 06:00:21 | S_a_i_n_t | It got it right for once ;) |
| 06:00:28 | S_a_i_n_t | (the line number) |
| 06:00:49 | S_a_i_n_t | oh, fail. |
| 06:00:52 | S_a_i_n_t | sorry...tired. |
| 06:01:11 | S_a_i_n_t | but, yes, the line I posted is 68 |
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| 06:01:27 | S_a_i_n_t | I know it's not 67 as that line is a comment. |
| 06:01:57 | mc2739 | that line looks ok, what does 66 look like?> |
| 06:02:20 | S_a_i_n_t | line 66 = ="#" |
| 06:02:28 | S_a_i_n_t | just a comment spacer ;) |
| 06:02:50 | mc2739 | 66 and 67 are both comments? |
| 06:03:06 | S_a_i_n_t | mc2739: I assure you, it's failing on that line. If I comment it, it goes on to fail at 84 |
| 06:04:28 | S_a_i_n_t | mc2739: I need to leave...this is the theme parsed into new syntax with the updater: http://www.datafilehost.com/download-0f650b3d.html |
| 06:05:54 | mc2739 | what device is it for? |
| 06:05:57 | S_a_i_n_t | sublines get messed up pretty bad. |
| 06:06:06 | S_a_i_n_t | Nano1 or 2g |
| 06:06:23 | mc2739 | ok, I'll see if I find anything |
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| 06:28:14 | quietstorm | I have a question. If I leave my iPod unused for a few hours and then turn it on again, the iPod boots the original firmware and I see the iPod language selection screen. This happens even when I don't use the "Hold" method (section 3.1.3) to boot the original firmware. Any idea what's happening? |
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| 06:51:02 | CIA-6 | New commit by jethead71 (r26681): Improve accuracy of NR-based fp_sqrt with better initial estimation and using one more bit internally. More reliable early termination. Good enough ... |
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| 08:59:08 | JdGordon | bieber: you arnt still awake are you? |
| 08:59:18 | bieber | I am |
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| 08:59:27 | JdGordon | hey |
| 08:59:58 | JdGordon | I have a problem... in the old parser some tags would eat everything till the end of the line (inlcuding the \n like %V) |
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| 09:00:11 | JdGordon | in your parser that doesnt happen anymore |
| 09:00:22 | bieber | Ooh, I thought only comments did that |
| 09:00:28 | JdGordon | now, I like the new behaviour but it causes some problems |
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| 09:01:19 | bieber | Oh? |
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| 09:02:01 | JdGordon | for example, %V() now (canged in svn) doesnt eat the \n.. so the displayer (and presumably your parse tree) think a new line should be added |
| 09:02:28 | JdGordon | I'm trying to think of a good way around this without going back to eating them |
| 09:02:39 | JdGordon | I changed %V in svn to not eat it so the colours tags would work |
| 09:03:16 | JdGordon | as expected, adding a # at the end of the line fixes it, but not very nice |
| 09:03:28 | bieber | My plan was just to have my renderer start the next element after the Viewport on a new line in a VIEWPORT group |
| 09:04:09 | bieber | I could just add something like a + at the end of the tag format specifier to have it eat any remaining text on the line in the new parser, as well |
| 09:04:21 | JdGordon | yeah, but I really dont like that |
| 09:04:38 | JdGordon | eating the rest of the line seems bad to m,e |
| 09:04:42 | bieber | In that case, my thought would be to address it in rendering |
| 09:05:07 | bieber | Just make sure that whatever comes immediately after the %V tag, newline or not, starts on the first line of the new viewport |
| 09:05:13 | JdGordon | thats what I'm trying to do but not having much luck either :p |
| 09:06:15 | bieber | Hmm |
| 09:06:33 | bieber | Code a special case for %V? |
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| 09:06:39 | JdGordon | yuck |
| 09:07:14 | JdGordon | ok ignore it, leave this entirely to the renderer |
| 09:07:23 | bieber | Okay |
| 09:07:35 | bieber | I'm going to see if I can get some line numbering in the editor tonight |
| 09:07:53 | JdGordon | cool, I saw the new error notification.. totally awesome :D |
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| 09:08:35 | bieber | Thanks |
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| 09:20:45 | JdGordon | ok I *really* need a tester for this change |
| 09:20:48 | JdGordon | S_a_i_n_t: ? |
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| 09:24:44 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26682): hopefully fix the problem with lines in viewports being pushed down one line. |
| 09:25:40 | JdGordon | bieber: I assume makeing multiline comments is going to be dead simple in the parser? using maybe #( and )# ? or #) |
| 09:25:56 | bieber | Yeah, it shouldn't be difficult |
| 09:26:00 | bieber | Want me to throw it together? |
| 09:26:12 | JdGordon | na, i'll do that when I can be bothered |
| 09:26:16 | bieber | Okay |
| 09:26:17 | JdGordon | it isnt really needed |
| 09:26:23 | JdGordon | just a nice touch |
| 09:26:47 | bieber | Now, if some code is under LGPL, I don't have to worry about license compatibility at all as long as I don't modify it, right? |
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| 09:29:23 | Zagor | bieber: not in a GPL project, no |
| 09:29:37 | bieber | Alright |
| 09:29:41 | GodEater | Dhraakellian: did someone knock up a perl script to convert old format skins to the new one? |
| 09:29:44 | GodEater | oops |
| 09:29:49 | GodEater | that was supposed to go to JdGordon ! |
| 09:30:01 | * | GodEater eyes his keyboard suspiciously |
| 09:30:37 | bieber | I'm copying one of Nokia's example files, should I just leave their copyright header at the top of the files? |
| 09:34:15 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon: I can't test at the moment sorry, about to run out the house again. Did mc2739 tell you what he found? |
| 09:34:42 | S_a_i_n_t | s/found/found wrong with the new syntax/ |
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| 09:36:26 | JdGordon | GodEater: yeah I did |
| 09:36:30 | JdGordon | utils/skinupdater |
| 09:36:35 | S_a_i_n_t | http://rockbox.pastebin.ca/1878900 |
| 09:36:38 | JdGordon | it is apparently more buggy than I hoped though |
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| 09:37:26 | JdGordon | S_a_i_n_t: is that for the theme editor? or rockbox? |
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| 09:38:09 | S_a_i_n_t | Errr, that was a theme converted to the new syntax with skinupdater.exe |
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| 09:38:25 | JdGordon | - is an acceptable value for the font |
| 09:38:43 | S_a_i_n_t | apparently, you can't use "-" as a valure for the font anymore in a viewport line. |
| 09:39:23 | JdGordon | in the themeditro maybe not, but rockbox shold still accept it |
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| 09:40:09 | S_a_i_n_t | and according to him %mv fails if it has a vaule attatched to it. In the case of this theme %mv(2.0) fails, but %mv works. |
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| 09:40:20 | S_a_i_n_t | Also, all the sublines fail. |
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| 09:41:06 | S_a_i_n_t | Initially I thought it was just because it changes ; to %; but even after fixing them manually, sublines still don't want to work. :/ |
| 09:42:02 | * | JdGordon grumbles |
| 09:42:28 | S_a_i_n_t | And to get the viewport lines to be accepted, - needed to be changed to 1 for the font value (I assume 0 and 2, 3, 4 etc. would work also) |
| 09:42:54 | S_a_i_n_t | ...just not "-" |
| 09:44:35 | GodEater | JdGordon: what do you replace "-" values with you in your new format? Still just "-" ? |
| 09:44:44 | JdGordon | yes |
| 09:45:27 | GodEater | and when you're converting %Vl, if the original had "-" for the fg and bg colors, do you also need %Vf and %Vb tags with that in, or can you leave them out? |
| 09:45:43 | JdGordon | leave them off |
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| 09:46:00 | JdGordon | %Vi() requires a - or a label for the first param if you are playing with a sbs |
| 09:47:20 | * | GodEater isn't as far as he knows |
| 09:47:26 | GodEater | I'm just trying to fix Cabbiev3 |
| 09:48:51 | JdGordon | the themeditor is well and truly good enough to test updated skins without having to load them in rockbox |
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| 09:49:04 | JdGordon | if they pass the themeditor but fail in rockbox it means I have a bug still |
| 09:49:54 | S_a_i_n_t | does %mv still default to 1 second if no value is specified? |
| 09:50:43 | S_a_i_n_t | and, can it use a decimal point still? for some reason %mv works, but %mv(2.0) fails. |
| 09:50:51 | JdGordon | yes yes |
| 09:50:57 | JdGordon | it should anyway |
| 09:51:02 | JdGordon | I might have a bug... |
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| 09:51:08 | S_a_i_n_t | sweet. |
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| 09:51:48 | S_a_i_n_t | If I manage to fix this theme I'm working on 100% I'll make a diff between it and the themeupdater output. |
| 09:51:51 | JdGordon | %mv(0.2) parses fine in svn rockbox |
| 09:52:24 | GodEater | hmm, I must have missed a tag |
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| 09:52:30 | JdGordon | which probably means there is a bug earlier up either in your skin or the parser |
| 09:52:50 | JdGordon | GodEater: you need to escape ()'s now... %) ad %( |
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| 09:54:07 | S_a_i_n_t | ;'s for seperating sublines aren;t supposed to be "%;" now are they? that *is* a bug, correct? |
| 09:54:13 | GodEater | oh, so the SkinBreakingChange wiki page is already wrong? :) |
| 09:54:56 | wodz | amiconn: ping |
| 09:54:59 | JdGordon | probably |
| 09:55:11 | JdGordon | GodEater: whats missing? |
| 09:55:23 | GodEater | no mention of the escaping of brackets |
| 09:56:04 | S_a_i_n_t | Also, alignment tags in the %Cl line aren't mentioned at all. |
| 09:56:20 | GodEater | yes they are |
| 09:56:22 | S_a_i_n_t | which is why I thought there weren't any anymore. |
| 09:56:26 | JdGordon | you're both blind :D |
| 09:56:41 | S_a_i_n_t | did you fix that recently Jd? |
| 09:56:47 | GodEater | the alignment tags are definitely there |
| 09:56:50 | S_a_i_n_t | as in, last few hours? |
| 09:57:02 | GodEater | and there goes the escaping ;) |
| 09:57:30 | GodEater | hmm - do rashers windows sims include the new code now? I'm stumped where this skin is broken now. |
| 09:57:41 | S_a_i_n_t | GodEater: Do you mean "ac" "al" "ar" etc. or the tags for AA alignment? |
| 09:57:44 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r26683): Theme Editor: Added line numbering in the text editor, thanks to some code from Nokia. Also made newly opened documents scroll to the top of the ... |
| 09:58:10 | S_a_i_n_t | I swear the AA alignment tags weren't there when I looked. |
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| 09:59:15 | JdGordon | GodEater: like i said, get the theme editor instead of rockbox to test the skin parses |
| 09:59:27 | GodEater | the theme editor runs in windows too? |
| 09:59:41 | JdGordon | I assume it would... just need to build it |
| 09:59:51 | GodEater | not sure how I'm going to do that |
| 09:59:54 | GodEater | no windows compiler |
| 09:59:54 | JdGordon | it is just qt |
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| 10:02:05 | bieber | GodEater: bluebrother has been doing Windows builds, let me see if I can find the link in the log |
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| 10:03:07 | bieber | http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/themeeditor/ is the link to his Windows builds |
| 10:03:43 | S_a_i_n_t | bieber: Thanks, I'll have a play. be prepared for me to bug you with questions though ;) |
| 10:03:49 | bieber | Be warned, though, the newest build doesn't have the parser bugfixes I did this afternoon, so a lot of stuff will still fail due to nested conditional issues |
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| 10:04:14 | S_a_i_n_t | ah, ok...no good for me until it can get a theme parsed correctly. |
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| 10:04:28 | JdGordon | I can probably setup a cross compiler here if someone knows where instrructions are? |
| 10:04:35 | bieber | I can make a newer build if y'all want, but I haven't found a way to get rid of the mingw dependency, so you'll need that at least |
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| 10:04:38 | JdGordon | or better yet, someone want to ssh in and do it for me? :) |
| 10:05:13 | bieber | S_a_i_n_t: It parses most all of the skins, its just that some of them with some odd corner cases of nested conditionals and tags won't work |
| 10:05:55 | S_a_i_n_t | bieber: I use some rather complex code in some places, it *really* didn;t like being converted into the new syntax. |
| 10:06:13 | S_a_i_n_t | though I have it done correctly now, the only things left are genuine bugs. |
| 10:06:43 | S_a_i_n_t | If viewports didn't add a newline randomly, my theme would be 100% |
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| 10:07:11 | bieber | I'm firing up my Windows VM now, so I'll have a Windows binary for you in a bit if you want to give it a go |
| 10:07:17 | JdGordon | line numbers :) |
| 10:07:19 | S_a_i_n_t | sure |
| 10:07:22 | JdGordon | all glory to the ypno toad |
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| 10:07:55 | * | JdGordon votes to give kugels GSoC money to bieber! |
| 10:08:37 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon: Would a diff of "what the skinupdater did" vs. "my corrections" be helpful at all? |
| 10:08:58 | bieber | Heh, I wonder if he's _gotten_ his GSoC money yet. Those cards are coming awfully late :/ |
| 10:09:00 | JdGordon | it wouldnt be helpful to me at this very moment, but yeah |
| 10:09:14 | S_a_i_n_t | I actually have it working now, save for the viewport newline thing. |
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| 10:09:32 | JdGordon | viewport newline thing was fixed before |
| 10:09:55 | S_a_i_n_t | Oh, so if I built a new sim, it'd be all good? |
| 10:11:18 | JdGordon | should do |
| 10:11:40 | GodEater | yay |
| 10:11:47 | * | GodEater fixes cabbiev3 |
| 10:12:08 | * | S_a_i_n_t fixes Apple_OF |
| 10:12:10 | GodEater | the sim's debugwps line counter is off by one, which was a little confusing initially |
| 10:12:20 | S_a_i_n_t | thanks to enormous help from mc2739 |
| 10:12:54 | S_a_i_n_t | GodEater: It always has been, sometimes it gets the right line, sometimes its +1, sometimes -1. |
| 10:13:06 | GodEater | cute |
| 10:13:10 | topik | the sim's token number debug output is not very readable either. couldn't it do a line/column thing? |
| 10:13:24 | JdGordon | that debuger is ging the way of the dodo |
| 10:13:53 | * | S_a_i_n_t fails to parse that. |
| 10:14:11 | topik | i tried to fix my clip+ modification of the built-in theme after running it through skinupdater and it was totally crazy |
| 10:16:10 | topik | great, it loaded fine on the sim, but not on my clip+ itself |
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| 10:25:55 | bieber | Wow, the debug Windows build of the theme editor comes in at 150MB |
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| 10:34:17 | bieber | http://filehost.bieberphoto.com/themeeditor/bin/ |
| 10:34:32 | bieber | I've got a Windows binary for the latest ThemeEditor build there |
| 10:34:58 | bieber | If you don't have MinGW installed, it'll probably tell you you're missing a DLL, but you should be able to Google for it pretty easily |
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| 10:50:38 | literal | JdGordon: your last commit *almost* fixes the viewport newline issue |
| 10:50:52 | S_a_i_n_t | literal: "almost"? |
| 10:50:55 | JdGordon | go away! it fixes it! :D |
| 10:51:28 | JdGordon | dinner |
| 10:51:47 | S_a_i_n_t | literal: Define "almost" please. |
| 10:51:56 | S_a_i_n_t | What does it do now? |
| 10:52:03 | literal | see here: http://www.pastebin.org/317968 |
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| 10:52:39 | literal | this is the original theme, converted with skinupdater: http://www.pastebin.org/317969 |
| 10:53:05 | literal | the progress bar line is the only one which causes problem now, unless I put %pb on the same line as %V |
| 10:53:24 | S_a_i_n_t | Hmmm...odd. |
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| 11:14:38 | JdGordon | literal: ok, I can guess the problem |
| 11:16:59 | JdGordon | maybe not... umm... |
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| 11:19:41 | wodz | playing music takes ~170mA and being idle in main menu takes ~180mA on HD200. That is at least weird |
| 11:21:23 | wodz | and this is over 2x more what OF needs :-/ |
| 11:21:51 | Zagor | wodz: solution: never stop the music! :) |
| 11:22:49 | wodz | Zagor: find what needs that much power rather |
| 11:24:13 | wodz | hmm shutting down lcd completly gives no difference (measurable at least) |
| 11:25:18 | JdGordon | playing music where? in the wps or menu? |
| 11:26:32 | wodz | wps |
| 11:29:14 | pondlife | Probably a Cygwin thing - but should I be able to do a make in the tools directory? I get compilation errors in mkzenboot.c: http://pastebin.ca/1878935 |
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| 11:33:41 | wodz | how is bool expressed in rockbox? can I write something like lcd_write_command(LCD_SET_POWER_SAVE | on) where on is bool and should be 0 or 1 only |
| 11:34:10 | pondlife | I woudl never assume a bool has a numeric value.. |
| 11:34:19 | pondlife | on ? 1 : 0 |
| 11:34:19 | wodz | ok |
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| 11:44:20 | CIA-6 | New commit by wodz (r26684): HD200 - fix lcd power save command (not used currently) |
| 11:51:09 | mk429 | hi guys...I'm looking to mess around with the Zen Vision:M port, I don't know if much is still done towards it but it looks a little dead |
| 11:51:45 | mk429 | i'm having a problem setting up the build env however.. I keep getting 'gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No such file or directory' during make |
| 11:52:11 | wodz | mk429: did You follow instructions on wiki? |
| 11:52:23 | wodz | what OS |
| 11:52:40 | mk429 | yeah.. debian squeeze |
| 11:53:00 | mk429 | latest svn and have installed all the dependencies listed |
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| 11:54:15 | wodz | but did You build cross complier using rockboxdev.sh |
| 11:54:16 | wodz | ? |
| 11:54:19 | mk429 | mhmm |
| 11:54:28 | mk429 | first only my target ones, then everything just in case |
| 11:54:33 | mk429 | also have correct path |
| 11:54:57 | wodz | can You compile simple helloworld.c with Your crosscompiler? |
| 11:55:37 | mk429 | i'll try |
| 11:58:36 | mk429 | it's giving me an error about not finding plugin.h, which is one directory level up |
| 11:58:45 | mk429 | seems the compiler is working though |
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| 12:00:25 | wodz | in helloworld.c type file? I mean main{return 0;} thing |
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| 12:02:51 | mk429 | oh sorry, i thought you meant the one in the plugins directory |
| 12:04:02 | wodz | I mean simple test if compiler is working |
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| 12:04:53 | mk429 | ah... tried it, got "/usr/local/lib/gcc/arm-elf-eabi/4.4.4/../../../../arm-elf-eabi/bin/ld: crt0.o: No such file: No such file or directory" |
| 12:05:09 | mk429 | this was with a simple int main(){return 0;} |
| 12:05:22 | wodz | that is correct |
| 12:05:24 | Torne | That's expected, no? We don't have a libc |
| 12:05:38 | mk429 | oh okay |
| 12:05:56 | Torne | you can only link freestanding binaries with our toolchain, not hosted ones |
| 12:06:46 | wodz | so to test compiler build some dummy function as object |
| 12:06:57 | mk429 | okay, that makes sense |
| 12:08:19 | mk429 | worked :) |
| 12:09:08 | wodz | so compiler is working |
| 12:09:30 | wodz | there must be something with paths than |
| 12:10:10 | mk429 | /usr/local/arm-elf-eabi/bin:/usr/local/arm-elf/bin:/usr/local/m68k-elf/bin:/usr/local/sh-elf/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games |
| 12:10:13 | mk429 | look ok? |
| 12:10:54 | mk429 | hmm...I'll add sbin |
| 12:12:14 | wodz | /usr/local/arm-elf-eabi/bin should be sufficent |
| 12:13:30 | wodz | If You have all crosscompilers try some well known target - h100/h300 (coldfire) or some ipod (arm) |
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| 12:15:36 | mk429 | weird, same error building for ipod |
| 12:16:22 | wodz | how do You build than - step by step please |
| 12:17:14 | mk429 | cd build; ../tools/configure; [10 for ipod]; make -j [tried without -j also] |
| 12:17:47 | wodz | try make clean before configure |
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| 12:20:07 | mk429 | have done, no joy |
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| 12:20:41 | wodz | pastebin complete log |
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| 12:26:53 | mk429 | wodz: where would the log be generated? i see nothing in the build dir except makefile stuff |
| 12:27:46 | wodz | make 1> log.txt 2>log.txt and bastebin log.txt |
| 12:28:36 | mk429 | ok. purely because i'm getting the error looking for "cc1", I'd have to guess it was a script variable acting funny somewhere..trying to step through it now |
| 12:29:29 | teru | JdGordon: ping |
| 12:29:37 | JdGordon | hi |
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| 12:30:49 | teru | JdGordon: i tried skinupdater to my wps, and it didn't convert viewport tag properly. |
| 12:31:04 | JdGordon | is it for a mono display? |
| 12:31:20 | teru | no. |
| 12:32:35 | JdGordon | ok |
| 12:32:45 | JdGordon | how did it not work? |
| 12:33:51 | mk429 | wodz: http://pastebin.com/abtqWXPU |
| 12:34:16 | CIA-6 | New commit by uchida (r26685): text viewer: 1) fix uisim abends when fonts list is displayed. ... |
| 12:35:25 | teru | it converts %Vi|8|36|224|176|-|-| to %Vi(8,36,224,176,-,-)%Vb( |
| 12:36:01 | teru | oops, it converts %Vi|8|36|224|176|-|-|-| to %Vi(8,36,224,176,-,-)%Vb( |
| 12:36:15 | wodz | mk429: Is this the *only* error? |
| 12:36:39 | wodz | aa wait |
| 12:36:59 | wodz | It complains about Your native compiler not cross compiler |
| 12:37:06 | mk429 | yeah |
| 12:37:15 | JdGordon | teru: ok, file a bug report... im busy at the moment |
| 12:37:39 | wodz | mk429: do You have regular toolchain working? |
| 12:37:45 | mk429 | yes |
| 12:37:47 | teru | ok. |
| 12:38:06 | mk429 | wodz: that shouldn't affect anything, should it? |
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| 12:38:18 | mk429 | i mean, i compiled the cross compiler with my native compiler |
| 12:38:33 | wodz | yes |
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| 12:38:46 | wodz | but for some reason... |
| 12:39:42 | mk429 | hmm... I've a feeling it's doing something like CC='...' but my shell is ignoring it |
| 12:39:50 | mk429 | I think I'm using dash as my system shell |
| 12:39:55 | mk429 | i.e. as /bin/sh |
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| 12:40:19 | TheLemonMan | hello |
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| 12:43:05 | wodz | mk429: my understanding is that Your host compiler instalation is broken somehow. I would try to reinstall build-essential and friends |
| 12:43:21 | mk429 | okay, thanks |
| 12:43:45 | TheLemonMan | i got into dfu mode on a sigmatel 3700 mp3 player but windows sees just 2 new hid devices |
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| 12:44:04 | TheLemonMan | one of them is named ROM RECOVERY, i suspect is a raw interface to nand |
| 12:44:39 | TheLemonMan | but i dunno how to dump the entire fw, current dumpers are bitching about removable scsi devices i dont have |
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| 12:47:29 | funman | wodz: pondlife: a bool has a numerical value, no need for (bool ? 1 : 0) |
| 12:47:58 | ucchan | JdGordon: Problem occurs because of the correction of r26623 (sort viewer.config). |
| 12:48:04 | wodz | funman: Is it quaranteed to be 0 or 1? |
| 12:48:19 | JdGordon | ucchan: what problem? |
| 12:48:25 | teru | JdGordon: FS #11384 |
| 12:48:28 | ucchan | Before r26623, text file (*.txt) is read by using the text viewer plugin. |
| 12:48:33 | funman | wodz: with C99 yes, else you can use (!!bool) |
| 12:48:44 | ucchan | But after r26623, text file is read by sort plugin. Then the text file is broken |
| 12:48:58 | wodz | funman: I mean in rb |
| 12:49:15 | ucchan | (sort the line in the text file) |
| 12:49:20 | pondlife | Is that always true? I may be thinking of bool sizing inconsistencies... |
| 12:49:37 | JdGordon | ucchan: ah right ok, do you want to revert that commit? |
| 12:49:47 | Torne | don't the viewers have some kind of priority? |
| 12:50:00 | JdGordon | yes, defined by that file |
| 12:50:04 | ucchan | I think revert r26623, or the viewer.config is sorted by the extension. |
| 12:50:46 | funman | pondlife: wodz: arm-elf-eabi at least defines bool to _Bool, so I suppose the compiler handles bool type internally |
| 12:51:44 | funman | same for other arch |
| 12:54:12 | funman | yes it works |
| 12:54:34 | ucchan | JdGordon: I will revert 26623 ok? |
| 12:54:37 | JdGordon | ok |
| 12:55:15 | funman | mc2739: leaving lineout on doesn't seem to cause a difference (14h38 on fuzev1) |
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| 13:04:13 | CIA-6 | New commit by uchida (r26686): revert r26623. ... |
| 13:06:21 | ucchan | jdGordon: reverts r26623, then FS #9034 reopen? |
| 13:06:32 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 13:06:59 | ucchan | ok. I reopen this task. |
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| 13:07:38 | CIA-6 | New commit by teru (r26687): add simple text viewer to pluginlib and use this for dict to show description. ... |
| 13:07:39 | kugel | JdGordon: have you cleaned up as well? |
| 13:07:57 | JdGordon | ? |
| 13:08:47 | kugel | JdGordon: so that isn't used for 2 separate tags anymore |
| 13:08:51 | kugel | % |
| 13:08:58 | kugel | err the webclient sucks |
| 13:09:06 | kugel | %% C |
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| 13:10:08 | JdGordon | have you seen any commits from me today suggesting I might have? |
| 13:10:14 | JdGordon | also i have no idea what you're talking about |
| 13:10:23 | kugel | JdGordon: IIRC we agreed on introducing % Cd for actually displaying AA |
| 13:10:48 | JdGordon | ok |
| 13:11:13 | kugel | and that it would be a good idea doing it when everything is broken anyway |
| 13:12:09 | JdGordon | yes ok |
| 13:13:31 | CIA-6 | New commit by teru (r26688): fix yellow. |
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| 13:23:08 | ucchan | teru: for the simple viewer, I think that the simple_viewer.[ch] do not create but new library creates using by text_viewer/*. |
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| 13:24:06 | mc2739 | funman: Good news. Thanks for testing. |
| 13:25:22 | ucchan | Though maybe very difficult ... |
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| 13:27:38 | teru | i think that text_viewer is complicate and large to view short text. |
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| 13:36:37 | ucchan | teru: text_viewer/* are very complicate, but other plugins are using only functions included tv_action.h. |
| 13:41:37 | ucchan | then, I think custmize tv_action.c only maybe. |
| 13:42:30 | teru | my point is text_viewer would require some amount of plugin buffer and other plugins would also want some amount of buffer e.g. for images. |
| 13:43:57 | ucchan | tv_init(file) -> tv_init(file, request size, (some options)) |
| 13:44:21 | ucchan | I thinks more. |
| 13:53:15 | ucchan | rasher: FS #9206 (sazanami-mincho fonts append some glyphs) commit/reject ? |
| 13:54:52 | rasher | ucchan: no opinion |
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| 14:00:52 | funman | http://pastie.org/996218 <- -Os on arm-elf-eabi |
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| 14:01:37 | ucchan | rasher: I think you opposed to commit. May I commit it? |
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| 14:03:14 | rasher | ucchan: I don't remember that. Am I reading right that the font's height is changed? |
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| 14:10:53 | ucchan | rasher: oh! I must confirm it by using the current convbdf. Because new sazanami-mincho fonts that I am using, are created 1 year or more ago. |
| 14:13:07 | ucchan | I talk again when the result is confirmed. |
| 14:20:08 | rasher | ucchan: I have never used that font though, but if the height of the font or the letters is changed, it's not so good, because that would be a problem for some skins |
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| 14:40:11 | ucchan | rasher: comment thanks. I new sazanami font creates using by current convbdf. the hight of new font is bigger than original. |
| 14:40:58 | ucchan | I adjust the height. |
| 14:41:32 | TheLemonMan | anyone can help me ? |
| 14:41:47 | funman | TheLemonMan: if you tell how, perhaps someone can |
| 14:42:25 | TheLemonMan | ive put the player in dfu mode, but i dont have a dfu device, just a hid called ROM RECOVERY |
| 14:42:55 | TheLemonMan | ive quickly coded a dfu client but refuses to work |
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| 14:43:48 | funman | using -Os -mthumb on c200v2 makes the audiobuffer 100kB bigger compared to -Os only |
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| 14:52:35 | wodz | I found out by accident that HD200 can be charged with higher current than 100mA (which I thought was hardware limit) :-) |
| 14:53:51 | gevaerts | wodz: how high can you get? Torne managed 1.5A on an ipod on Saturday |
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| 14:54:58 | wodz | I saw 180-200mA on multimeter but charging just reached CV phase so it could be higher as well |
| 14:56:51 | wodz | for me it looks like they ware working on USB charging and dropped support for this finally |
| 14:57:31 | Torne | gevaerts: Well, I managed enough that the power brick cut out |
| 14:57:36 | Torne | it was only rated for 1A |
| 14:57:45 | gevaerts | Yes, you did well :) |
| 14:57:48 | Torne | it tried for over an amp briefly |
| 14:57:51 | Torne | but only briefly :) |
| 14:58:06 | Torne | i assume the voltage sagged too much below 5V and it decided there was no usb power any more |
| 14:58:21 | * | Torne opted not to commit support for that :) |
| 14:58:23 | wodz | 1.5A is usualy internal limit for charging chips |
| 14:58:27 | Torne | indeed |
| 14:58:35 | Torne | the ltc4066 in the ipod will pull up to that. |
| 14:58:55 | Torne | and for several models I know how to set CLDIS to disable the 100/500 limit entirely and go for 1.5 |
| 14:58:59 | wodz | but it should have thermal cutoff as well |
| 14:59:02 | Torne | but it doesn't actually work with apple chargers/etc |
| 14:59:05 | S_a_i_n_t_ | Torne: What is "Force" in the USB charging menu? I looked in the manual, but I couldn't find it...is it there now? |
| 14:59:10 | Torne | Yah, but the thermal limit is 105C or so ;) |
| 14:59:17 | Torne | S_a_i_n_t_: It should be in the manual now |
| 14:59:23 | Torne | I committed a manual update later on the same day |
| 14:59:25 | S_a_i_n_t_ | awesome, thanks. |
| 14:59:31 | Torne | so it should've been built on sunday night? |
| 14:59:56 | S_a_i_n_t_ | Aha, I looked as soon as I saw the commit...a little too soon I guess ;) |
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| 15:00:03 | Torne | yes, the manuals are only build daily |
| 15:00:13 | Torne | so even if i'd committed the manual update at the same time it wouldn't've been there :) |
| 15:00:20 | Torne | basically, though: off tries not to charge ta all, on charges when the host says it can, force also charges when there's no host connection detected within a timeout |
| 15:00:33 | wodz | Torne: 105oC is well below solder melt :-) |
| 15:00:43 | S_a_i_n_t_ | Congrats by the way. |
| 15:00:47 | S_a_i_n_t_ | Torne: ^ |
| 15:00:56 | Torne | S_a_i_n_t_: the actual reverse engineering etc was done by dreamlayers |
| 15:01:06 | Torne | i just sat and tested it all exhaustively with a meter and committed it ;) |
| 15:01:28 | S_a_i_n_t_ | Aha...well, congrats on committing then :P |
| 15:01:41 | Torne | he hadn't quite identified some of the GPIO bits correctly, also |
| 15:01:50 | Torne | i mean, they were the right GPIOs but the effects were not what he had commented them as being :) |
| 15:01:58 | wodz | Torne: does it mean my mini should charge properly in rb without patching? |
| 15:02:04 | Torne | wodz: yes. all ipods should charge properly |
| 15:02:13 | Torne | but you will need to set usb charging to "force" to charge from an AC adapter at this time |
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| 15:02:28 | Torne | In future I'm gonna see if we can detect chargers, but for now it doesn't |
| 15:02:31 | ucchan | I quit. see you tommorow. |
| 15:02:33 | wodz | awesom |
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| 15:02:46 | Torne | wodz: it's safer than the fs#8802 patch if that's what you were using before :0 |
| 15:02:53 | wodz | yes |
| 15:02:54 | Torne | since it actually pays attention to how much power the host said it could draw |
| 15:03:11 | S_a_i_n_t_ | I still want to dig up my multimeter and go back to an older revision though, (pre charging support, well this particular commit) charging still completes in the same timeframe. |
| 15:03:17 | Torne | as a bonus, also, if you *do* set charging to off, rockbox will only ask the host for 100mA, and then the player will work properly when connected to a bus powered hub |
| 15:03:21 | S_a_i_n_t_ | I think I'll have to buy a new multimeter. |
| 15:03:33 | Torne | S_a_i_n_t_: I discovered that in certain cases of rebooting OF/etc the charger control pins were sometimes not reset |
| 15:03:36 | Torne | S_a_i_n_t_: so that's probably it |
| 15:03:47 | Torne | S_a_i_n_t_: i managed to get a couple of ipods to stay in 500mA charging mode after rebooting a few times |
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| 15:04:16 | S_a_i_n_t_ | Ah, right. I had a feeling I wasn't insane...but I can never be too sure about these things ;) |
| 15:04:41 | Torne | Yeah, I had assumed they were always reset |
| 15:04:45 | Torne | but it looks like sometimes they're not |
| 15:04:45 | S_a_i_n_t_ | At least now I know it's intended behaviour, and not magic. |
| 15:04:57 | Torne | Rockbox now sets them on boot, according to your settings and the presence of a cable |
| 15:05:07 | S_a_i_n_t_ | Awesome. |
| 15:05:11 | Torne | so it will always do the right thing now (for *my* definition of the right thing) |
| 15:05:13 | gevaerts | Torne: would it make sense to reset the bus and retry at 100mA if 500mA doesn't work? |
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| 15:05:35 | Torne | gevaerts: you mean to automatically support bus powered devices? yes, that would make sense but may be fiddly |
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| 15:05:42 | Torne | in theory you can just expose both descriptors at once |
| 15:05:44 | Torne | and let the host pick |
| 15:05:53 | Torne | but apparently host OSes almost universally cock that up |
| 15:05:59 | * | GodEater sees bad news on the TTS front |
| 15:06:01 | gevaerts | yes, exactly |
| 15:06:12 | Torne | so yes, it could be done as an enhancement, certainly |
| 15:06:19 | Torne | but i don't particularly want to do it ;) |
| 15:06:32 | Torne | the other enhancement that's possible is to try and support *complete* disabling of charging |
| 15:06:35 | Torne | i.e. draw 0 instead of 100mA |
| 15:06:47 | Torne | but i'm not sure what the impications of that might be for peple with dead batteries, etc |
| 15:06:49 | S_a_i_n_t_ | I figured that in the time charging completed, either the charging state was being improperly read, or it *must* have been pulling 500mAh. Glad to know now I wasn't out of my tree completely. |
| 15:06:55 | S_a_i_n_t_ | That really is good to know. |
| 15:09:38 | gevaerts | Torne: maybe force it to 100mA in the bootloader, don't save the 0mA setting, and assume that the hardware will clear the 0mA pins if the battery is dead enough? |
| 15:11:54 | gevaerts | Also possibly unset the 0mA on shutdown |
| 15:12:54 | wodz | hmm charging ended with current 120mA. LTC1733 signals usually end of charge when reaching 10% of nominal current - that would mean 1.2A of limit current !!! |
| 15:13:08 | wodz | wall charger is 1.2A rated as well |
| 15:15:36 | wodz | MPIO OF bootloader charges with high current mode, OF itself charges with low current mode. Now I understand all this fiddeling with charging related GPIOs in OF disassembly |
| 15:16:22 | Torne | wodz: well, I have a nice framework now that looks after deciding what level is appropriate |
| 15:16:32 | Torne | and just calls your target code with the current which is allowed |
| 15:16:40 | Torne | so if you know which GPIOs it is, it shoul dbe trivial to support |
| 15:16:40 | wodz | nice |
| 15:16:56 | Torne | just add HAVE_USB_CHARGING_ENABLE and implement usb_charging_maxcurrent_change() |
| 15:17:02 | Torne | ..or whatever it's called, i forget |
| 15:17:18 | Torne | ..er, this is assuming you have the rockbox usb stack, anyway |
| 15:17:18 | wodz | this target do not charge through USB |
| 15:17:24 | Torne | oh, right. |
| 15:17:28 | Torne | Well, in general, the framework is there :) |
| 15:17:53 | Torne | currently, the ipods and the beast use it (the h300 does it a dumber way because that's a usb bridge chip) |
| 15:18:33 | wodz | my discovery explains also why wall charger is so hot when charging dead battery :-) |
| 15:20:20 | Torne | fun :) |
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| 15:27:17 | mk429 | wodz: I sorted that problem with paths :D |
| 15:27:46 | wodz | :-) |
| 15:28:19 | mk429 | the wiki says to use /usr/local/bin/arm-elf-eabi/ etc, but i needed to compile some of the rockbox tools as dependencies, and that path was overiding my native gcc's toolchain :) |
| 15:30:41 | funman | mk429: can you fix the wiki ? |
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| 15:31:41 | CIA-6 | New commit by teru (r26689): don't disable backdrop when the file name starts with 'd', e.g. %X(dock.bmp). |
| 15:31:49 | S_a_i_n_t_ | Any intention of committing FS #10891 (Dynamic Runtime Estimation)? |
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| 15:32:59 | funman | S_a_i_n_t_: wrong FS# ? |
| 15:33:26 | TheLemonMan | aww its frustrating, cant get any cmd to work |
| 15:34:19 | S_a_i_n_t_ | Oooops, sorry... FS# 10890 |
| 15:34:45 | S_a_i_n_t_ | U have had it in my build for some time, works great. |
| 15:34:52 | S_a_i_n_t_ | s/U/I/ |
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| 15:38:24 | mk429 | funman: sure, i was following the "simplelinuxcompile" tutorial. looks like you only need /usr/local/bin in your path |
| 15:39:06 | S_a_i_n_t_ | that doesn't sound right. |
| 15:39:26 | S_a_i_n_t_ | You need the toolchain Path in your PATH also. |
| 15:39:35 | n1s | no, i changed recently |
| 15:39:39 | n1s | it* |
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| 15:39:55 | qfr | Will there be USB support for the Sansa Fuze v1 at some point or is it not possible? |
| 15:40:05 | gevaerts | qfr: it's being worked on |
| 15:40:07 | funman | qfr: at some unknown point in the future, perhaps |
| 15:40:09 | qfr | Whenever I plug it in it uses the original firmware again instead of Rockbox |
| 15:40:10 | qfr | Ok |
| 15:40:14 | n1s | rockboxdev.sh now installs the toolchains in /usr/local/bin |
| 15:40:15 | qfr | Is it that complicated? |
| 15:40:22 | funman | nothing's impossible but the difficult things take time |
| 15:40:27 | gevaerts | It's not trivial :) |
| 15:40:49 | qfr | Which hardware is the best supported one for Rockbox atm? |
| 15:40:56 | S_a_i_n_t_ | If it were easy to do, it'd be done ;) |
| 15:41:00 | TheLemonMan | mmh seems that dfu mode on samsung shiz needs to be triggered with some cmds |
| 15:41:11 | S_a_i_n_t_ | these guys aren't lazy (most of the time) :P |
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| 15:41:55 | qfr | Ah nice http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/BuyersGuide |
| 15:42:15 | qfr | Oh, doesn't mention USB |
| 15:42:23 | qfr | Is USB firmware supported for any of thos atm? |
| 15:43:17 | n1s | yes |
| 15:45:50 | mk429 | would it be possible for someone to add me to WikiUsersGroup? wikiuser MarkKing |
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| 15:47:09 | funman | mk429: done |
| 15:48:22 | mk429 | thanks |
| 15:50:18 | mk429 | funman: just to be sure, i have all necessary binaries in /usr/local/bin, that is usually already in the path on most distros |
| 15:50:25 | mk429 | and it is not mentioned on the wiki |
| 15:50:39 | n1s | mk429: it's a recent change |
| 15:50:50 | mk429 | i think this bit is no longer relevant -> "export PATH=/usr/local/arm-elf-eabi/bin:/usr/local/arm-elf/bin:/usr/local/m68k-elf/bin:/usr/local/sh-elf/bin:$PATH" |
| 15:50:57 | n1s | exactly |
| 15:51:18 | mk429 | n1s: so I can remove that line? just don't want to do anything silly for my first change :) |
| 15:51:45 | gevaerts | mk429: actally, that line might be harmful now |
| 15:51:52 | mk429 | it was to me |
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| 15:52:10 | n1s | yes, possibly mention that they are now installed in /usr/local/bin and to make sure that is in PATH, even if it usually is |
| 15:52:29 | n1s | y'never know what kind of weird system someone is running |
| 15:53:53 | mk429 | kk |
| 15:58:34 | Zagor | n1s: I added this information to CrossCompiler during devcon |
| 15:58:59 | Zagor | "All compilers are installed to /usr/local/bin, which is usually in your PATH already. If it isn't, add it to the .bashrc file in your home directory." |
| 15:59:26 | mk429 | Zagor: yeah, I followed http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/LinuxSimpleGuideToCompiling |
| 15:59:31 | n1s | Zagor: yes, this was about one of the "simplified" guides, so copying that info would be good |
| 15:59:34 | mk429 | (which turned out to be a misnomer :P) |
| 15:59:41 | Zagor | mk429: aha |
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| 16:01:50 | gevaerts | Zagor: apparently /usr/local/bin/ isn't in the PATH at @reboot cronjob time :) |
| 16:02:21 | Zagor | gevaerts: I recommend setting PATH in runclient.sh |
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| 16:02:45 | gevaerts | Zagor: I now set it in the script that calls runclient.sh |
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| 16:11:31 | S_a_i_n_t_ | teru: OMG! thanks! that was driving me nuts ;) (backdrop) I couldn't figure it out... |
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| 16:21:00 | pondlife | Is "(more than 136GB require a custom build)" still true for Archoses? From http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/BuyersGuide.... |
| 16:21:56 | funman | kugel: thumb code works fine on c200v2 |
| 16:22:00 | Torne | Yes |
| 16:22:11 | Torne | I deliberately didn't include Archos when I enabled LBA48 |
| 16:22:20 | pondlife | OK, just checking |
| 16:22:20 | Torne | because you have to partition the drive specially for it to work with the USB bridge |
| 16:22:34 | Torne | you pretty much need a custom build *anyway* |
| 16:22:34 | kugel | which is easier to do that a custom build :) |
| 16:22:46 | Torne | since i don't think the normal build has multivolume? |
| 16:22:51 | n1s | exactly |
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| 16:23:15 | kugel | funman: cool |
| 16:24:09 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r26690): CPU_PP implies CPU_ARM is defined |
| 16:25:03 | kugel | rockbox.org down? |
| 16:25:15 | funman | kugel: http://pastie.org/996356 ? |
| 16:25:46 | n1s | kugel: i couldn't reach it for a while, then it came back, now it' |
| 16:25:50 | n1s | s gone again |
| 16:26:02 | funman | works now |
| 16:26:45 | kugel | not for me |
| 16:26:55 | pondlife | It's OK here |
| 16:27:13 | kugel | opendns reports failure |
| 16:27:35 | pondlife | www.rockbox.org [80.67.6.50] here |
| 16:28:56 | n1s | pondlife: 80.67.6.50 gives me "No site here." :) |
| 16:30:03 | pondlife | hehe |
| 16:30:34 | pondlife | Same here, but the URL is fine |
| 16:30:43 | pondlife | i.e. the normal one |
| 16:33:21 | funman | kugel: PP thumb code looks fine if i put memset in .text instead of .icode |
| 16:33:37 | kugel | :\ |
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| 16:37:23 | * | JdGordon wonders why the updater barfs on %Xd |
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| 16:39:33 | kugel | git.rockbox.org[0: 67.215.66.132]: errno=Connection timed out |
| 16:39:33 | kugel | fatal: unable to connect a socket (Connection timed out) :( |
| 16:41:06 | JdGordon | S_a_i_n_t: got your sbs it barfed on? |
| 16:41:40 | S_a_i_n_t | Um...sure, one sec. |
| 16:41:46 | funman | corelock_init() isn't the only one to call thumb code from arm: plugin_iram_init calls incorrectly memcpy/memset, plugin_load too, fix_huff_tbl, store_raw_jpeg .. i didn't check all the list |
| 16:42:59 | mc2739 | JdGordon: mine barfed on %Vi and the next 2 lines following |
| 16:43:23 | S_a_i_n_t | yeah....it *really* didn;t seem to like the UI viewport line. |
| 16:43:33 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26691): fix FS #11384, skinupdater barfed on %Xd and %Vi |
| 16:43:36 | JdGordon | does now |
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| 16:44:13 | S_a_i_n_t | http://www.datafilehost.com/download-a51cb4a9.html |
| 16:44:20 | S_a_i_n_t | that's thw .wps and .sbs |
| 16:44:23 | JdGordon | screw you :) test the change |
| 16:44:27 | S_a_i_n_t | it choked on both previously |
| 16:45:30 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26692): FS #11383 - fix the touchregion param string |
| 16:46:02 | JdGordon | grr who brought up the %pb breaking? |
| 16:46:14 | kugel | wth |
| 16:46:22 | kugel | I cannot access svn and you can commit? |
| 16:46:30 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon: Did you happen to see how bad it messed up the comments after the UI viewport line in my .sbs? |
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| 16:46:36 | S_a_i_n_t | that was *nuts* |
| 16:46:37 | flyback | heh |
| 16:46:39 | flyback | how ironic |
| 16:46:47 | JdGordon | kugel: meh :) I'm special |
| 16:46:52 | flyback | rockbox 3.6 comes out days after my c140/c150 took a shit |
| 16:47:03 | flyback | wasn't supported yet anyways but baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
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| 16:47:17 | flyback | so |
| 16:47:19 | * | S_a_i_n_t fails to see the irony. |
| 16:47:21 | kugel | I think opendns is having trouble |
| 16:47:36 | JdGordon | %Cd to display AA? |
| 16:47:45 | flyback | what's a still well recommended unit from developer standpoint etc |
| 16:48:02 | S_a_i_n_t | flyback: Buyers guide, wiki |
| 16:48:02 | flyback | kugel, last night I noticed a momentary dns problem last night |
| 16:48:05 | flyback | and I use opendns |
| 16:48:10 | flyback | dunno if it's related |
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| 16:48:16 | flyback | S_a_i_n_t, ok thx |
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| 16:49:31 | S_a_i_n_t | if the AA tag needs a two digit tag now...why not something that makes sense, like %Aa |
| 16:50:15 | kugel | S_a_i_n_t: it doesn't need a two digit tag, it the dual use of %C needs to be cleaned up |
| 16:50:19 | S_a_i_n_t | Cd doesn't seem much better than C, or am I missing something? |
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| 16:50:48 | flyback | S_a_i_n_t, the irony is it's more likely to get support soon |
| 16:50:50 | kugel | S_a_i_n_t: you're missing that it needs a hack in the code to distinguish %?C from %C |
| 16:50:52 | flyback | was what I mean't |
| 16:50:59 | S_a_i_n_t | Aha...then %Aa would clear that right up. |
| 16:51:58 | S_a_i_n_t | The tags that reflect their function are a lot easier to remember. |
| 16:52:06 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26693): change to %Cd to display albumart (instead of %C to make it more consistant with %Vd/%Vl and %xd/%xl) ... |
| 16:52:08 | S_a_i_n_t | %Li, %Lt for instance. |
| 16:52:22 | funman | gold linker doesn't support interworking |
| 16:52:49 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26694): fix the manual also |
| 16:54:20 | pondlife | Hmm, might not be just OpenDNS... I can still access www.rockbox.org, but not build.rockbox.org... |
| 16:54:35 | JdGordon | kugel: hrm? we want 3 aa tags? |
| 16:54:37 | mc2739 | JdGordon: %Vi is still wrong if there is no label - new syntax requires "-" |
| 16:54:49 | JdGordon | oh right |
| 16:55:01 | pondlife | Also no fun from themes.rockbox.org |
| 16:55:07 | kugel | JdGordon: why not? |
| 16:55:29 | kugel | we had 3 tags before, 2 of them were just had just the same identifier |
| 16:55:38 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26695): fix %Vi again |
| 16:56:10 | JdGordon | oh i see what you're saying |
| 16:56:10 | JdGordon | ok |
| 16:56:30 | mc2739 | JdGordon: also, when using %t the ";" is getting escaped |
| 16:56:48 | JdGordon | not any more |
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| 16:57:21 | S_a_i_n_t | mc2739: Thanks for having a look at that theme btw...fwiw, I think the SIM may have just been being picky with you. I figured out the subline mess it was trying to seperate the sublines with "%;" instead of ";". |
| 16:57:41 | S_a_i_n_t | And also, %mv(2.0) worked for me, but not you...odd. |
| 16:58:43 | mc2739 | JdGordon: it failed in r26692 - was it fixed since then? |
| 16:59:10 | S_a_i_n_t | It isn't a big deal I guess, but it is still failinf for me if I use a "-" for the font identifier in the viewport lines :/ |
| 16:59:18 | JdGordon | 93 fixed it didnt it? |
| 16:59:20 | S_a_i_n_t | *failing |
| 16:59:28 | JdGordon | hang on.. 4 things at a time only! |
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| 17:00:40 | mk429 | is anyone here at all familiar with the status of the Zen Vision:M port? |
| 17:01:14 | mk429 | I have the bootloader compiling and loading up the stock firmware, wondering how I can get rockbox firmware on so I can see what's next to be done |
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| 17:02:39 | funman | I assume you have read http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CreativeZVMPort ? |
| 17:02:43 | mk429 | yup |
| 17:03:27 | funman | you should look for mcuelenaere as he worked on this port |
| 17:03:34 | mk429 | cool, will do, thanks |
| 17:04:13 | * | JdGordon grumbles |
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| 17:08:33 | sharp | website is down? any mirrors of places i can get the daily build? |
| 17:08:52 | kugel | download.rockbox.org should always worj |
| 17:09:02 | funman | http://download.rockbox.org/daily/ |
| 17:09:27 | kugel | hm, rb.org worked for a second, now not anymore |
| 17:09:34 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26696): The real reason to change the %C was to remove a very nasty hack! ... |
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| 17:09:46 | sharp | i'm having trouble with download.rockbox.org as well |
| 17:10:00 | JdGordon | ok, whos got skin issues still? |
| 17:10:27 | sharp | sharp@blue:~$ host download.rockbox.org |
| 17:10:27 | sharp | ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
| 17:10:32 | gevaerts | sharp: they all work here |
| 17:10:37 | gevaerts | Is your dns working? |
| 17:10:52 | sharp | gevaerts: for other things, yeah |
| 17:11:28 | gevaerts | One of the three dns servers serving rockbox.org seems down, but there are two left |
| 17:11:41 | JdGordon | what do people think about using #( )# for multi line comments? |
| 17:11:46 | JdGordon | or #( #) ? |
| 17:12:13 | funman | #( )# is easier to read IMO |
| 17:12:18 | gevaerts | I'd go for #( #) |
| 17:12:23 | kugel | looks just strange :( |
| 17:12:27 | gevaerts | Both work :) |
| 17:12:39 | funman | but # prefixing each line is fine with me |
| 17:12:46 | sharp | it's probably road-runners crappy dns... |
| 17:13:01 | kugel | sharp: I'm having problems with various dnses |
| 17:13:12 | JdGordon | you can do things with mutliline that you cant with single lines |
| 17:13:22 | JdGordon | or maybe not :p |
| 17:13:49 | kugel | www.rockbox.org works for me now, but not {svn,git,build,download}.rockbox.org |
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| 17:15:38 | sharp | anybody have the ip addresses? |
| 17:16:46 | gevaerts | 80.67.6.50 |
| 17:17:42 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26697): Fix yellow and all the shipped themes that show AA |
| 17:17:53 | * | JdGordon loves havin no problem with svn right now :p |
| 17:19:02 | sharp | cool, added to hosts file and it works :) |
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| 17:21:27 | mk429 | okay... I need mcuelenaere's CreativeWizard to upload new firmware, but the link to it (http://www.pimpmyzen.com/request.php?24) seems down |
| 17:21:35 | mk429 | no chance anyone has a copy lying about is there? :/ |
| 17:23:09 | flyback | looks like sansa fuse might be a good choice for me and my mom |
| 17:23:11 | flyback | thx guys |
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| 17:26:27 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26698): fix %pb and other progressbars which are shown one line down from where they should be in viewports |
| 17:30:12 | mc2739 | JdGordon: the skin parser still does not like "-" for the font in in %V and %Vl |
| 17:31:29 | mc2739 | with r26697 |
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| 17:35:54 | teru | i noticed that. it is problem of parse_list in misc.c. it tries to find end separater( ',' ) but there is only ')'. i wonder why it tries to find ending ',' or ')' if '-' is set. |
| 17:35:54 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26699): fix - not being accepted for viewport font. |
| 17:36:12 | funman | kugel: yay i have a test case for the thumb bug |
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| 17:40:46 | mc2739 | JdGordon: looks good now - using files from skinupdater with no additional changes needed |
| 17:41:03 | kugel | funman: cool! paste it? |
| 17:41:11 | mc2739 | (at least with my skin) |
| 17:42:09 | funman | kugel: http://pastie.org/996452 i think it's related to long calls: having to make a veneer for long call AND a veneer for thumb/arm switch |
| 17:42:15 | JdGordon | I'm hoping thats the last of it.. |
| 17:42:32 | JdGordon | I have one more commit but I want to get this all settled down a bit more |
| 17:44:50 | teru | JdGordon: my sbs some how hove line "%Cl|20|4|cs200|cs200|" and skinupdater only strip first c in "cs200". |
| 17:45:22 | JdGordon | manually fix that I think |
| 17:46:12 | teru | ok |
| 17:47:23 | teru | JdGordon: can i ask you reason of this check in parse_list?: while (*p && *p != sep && (!is_last_var || (is_last_var && *p!=')'))) p++; |
| 17:48:03 | JdGordon | because the seperators change... the middle items use comma (,) the last one uses ) |
| 17:48:04 | teru | it allows something like %V(0,0,-hoge,12,-). |
| 17:48:42 | JdGordon | that seems wrong :p |
| 17:49:12 | teru | i think ptr++ is enough. if the next char is not ',', then the check at the top of loop will detect it. |
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| 17:49:51 | JdGordon | please fix it :) |
| 17:50:43 | funman | kugel: we could workaround it by linking IRAM close to DRAM |
| 17:50:53 | kugel | how? |
| 17:50:55 | teru | i wanted to do if i could connect to svn.rockbox.org... |
| 17:51:00 | funman | the PP have no MMU ? |
| 17:51:02 | kugel | yep |
| 17:51:42 | kugel | also, the ram on some PP exceed the short-call cap |
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| 17:54:31 | Lear | Anyone else who can reach rockbox.org or forums.rockbox.org? |
| 17:56:42 | gevaerts | Lear: I can reach them, but you're not the only one |
| 17:56:51 | gevaerts | DNS issues are suspected |
| 17:57:17 | kugel | Lear: some dns problem, I can only reach them with its IP in my /etc/hosts |
| 17:57:18 | Lear | I get a DNS timeout when I test it at network-tools.com, yes. |
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| 18:00:49 | gevaerts | I don't really understand the issue. rockbox.org has three dns servers, two of which work |
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| 18:05:55 | gevaerts | hm |
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| 18:12:02 | gevaerts | Bagder: according to the nameservers that are listed for .org, rockbox.org is served by ns1.rockbox.org and ns3.rockbox.org, which it claims are 91.191.140.131 and 83.168.254.42. Both of those don't respond. I seem to locally have 80.67.6.50 for ns1.rockbox.org, which does work, and also vic20.blipp.com (217.75.101.38) as a third NS, which also works |
| 18:12:21 | gevaerts | 83.168.254.42 obviously doesn't work, since it's the old address |
| 18:13:07 | gevaerts | 91.191.140.131 seems to be Contactor |
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| 18:14:20 | gevaerts | It looks to me as if something broke recently, and as TTLs expire more and more people get affected |
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| 18:19:56 | funman | kugel: or we could build with -mlong-calls |
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| 18:32:42 | funman | http://rafael.carre.perso.sfr.fr/rockbox.zip <- e200v1 thumb build, someone can give a test at it ? |
| 18:35:07 | funman | ram usage is 65kB down |
| 18:36:32 | funman | i just updated the .zip with test_codec, comparison with normal build would be useful |
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| 18:38:52 | wodz | site down again or my local problem? |
| 18:39:05 | funman | wodz: dns problem |
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| 18:39:46 | wodz | do You know ip of rockbox.org? |
| 18:39:56 | gevaerts | 80.67.6.50 |
| 18:40:29 | gevaerts | wodz: 67.18.187.47 for forums and themes |
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| 18:40:54 | wodz | no go - probably virtual hosts in apache problem |
| 18:41:18 | kugel | funman: -mlong-calls defeats the purpose of eabi... |
| 18:41:21 | gevaerts | sure, but some local /etc/hosts work will fix that |
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| 18:42:06 | kugel | or part of it |
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| 18:44:12 | wodz | funman: I don't get Your comment in FS #11324 |
| 18:44:36 | funman | kugel: well that's a work around |
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| 18:45:19 | kugel | eabi alone saves over 60k binsize, I'd expect -mlong-calls to add the same amount againm |
| 18:45:41 | funman | wodz: the scale of the grid can change between 5mV or 50mV |
| 18:46:24 | funman | then perhaps we could expect 120kB binsize if it's really a ld bug and is resolved |
| 18:46:52 | wodz | funman: yes |
| 18:47:16 | funman | wodz: but when you look at the grid you don't know if it's using 5mV or 50mV between each line |
| 18:48:20 | wodz | funman: true, but honestly I don't have good ide how to indicate what grid scale is used |
| 18:48:39 | funman | no problem then, it was just a suggestion |
| 18:49:10 | Lear | gevaerts: Those IP addresses certainly don't work here. :) |
| 18:49:53 | wodz | funman: on wider screens we can just put string "grid: 50mV" but on mini I am testing it does not fit on the screen |
| 18:50:23 | kugel | JdGordon: strange fix, parse_list worked fine so far |
| 18:50:58 | gevaerts | Lear: I suspect you're doing something wrong then! |
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| 18:51:36 | kugel | JdGordon: I'm not sure if mixing ) into parse_list is proper |
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| 18:52:06 | domonoky1 | should the themesite allow themes whitch use one of the classic_xx.sbs files without including it into the zip ? Or should themeauthors package that too ? |
| 18:52:15 | wodz | would be there any benefit from converting view_battery into viewports? (I mean one viewport for text and second for graph itself) |
| 18:53:35 | kugel | domonoky1: we distribute it, don't we? |
| 18:54:13 | domonoky1 | kugel: yes, but it means to include nasty exclusions in the themesite. |
| 18:54:46 | kugel | can we make it proper? |
| 18:54:53 | Lear | gevaerts: I just put them in the address bar in the browser... |
| 18:55:01 | kugel | e.g. have an array of filenames that are allowed to pass if it doesn't exist? |
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| 18:55:08 | gevaerts | Lear: that won't work since http 1.1 was introduced |
| 18:55:22 | gevaerts | Lear: you need /etc/hosts magic |
| 18:55:59 | kugel | Lear: http://pastebin.com/sfmBURTq works for me |
| 18:56:27 | kugel | gevaerts: I can build the app without #define COWON_D2 now |
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| 18:58:35 | funman | 4:f7ff fffe bl14 <f> |
| 18:58:36 | funman | g(); |
| 18:58:36 | funman | 8:f7ff fffe bl10000000 <g> |
| 18:58:46 | funman | that can't be right, f7ff ffffe is an infinite loop :'( |
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| 19:00:26 | funman | gevaerts: any command needs to be run after modifying /etc/hosts ? |
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| 19:00:43 | gevaerts | some browsers need to be restarted |
| 19:04:22 | kugel | ff doesnt |
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| 19:09:12 | * | funman needs a PP |
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| 19:18:54 | kugel | funman: hm, I could've given you mine if you asked :) |
| 19:19:38 | funman | ah, next time we meet i will be less shy ! |
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| 19:25:13 | domonoky1 | currently the themesite only allows themes witch have all files which are in the config, and all skin files have to be named <themename>.<ext>... so currently there is no way to use the classic_xxx.sb with theme on the themesite. |
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| 19:28:32 | rasher | domonoky1: A special-case should probably be added for those |
| 19:30:59 | S_a_i_n_t | domonoky1: what do you mean by "all skin files have to be named <themename>.<ext>" coud you give me an example please? |
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| 19:31:54 | domonoky1 | saint.zip can only contain saint.wps, saint.sbs, etc, but no kugel.sb |
| 19:32:07 | S_a_i_n_t | aha...thankyou. |
| 19:32:23 | S_a_i_n_t | that's kind of odd...id didn't used to be that way did it? |
| 19:32:40 | S_a_i_n_t | I can't recall. My themes don't do that, but I'm sure some would. |
| 19:33:05 | domonoky1 | no, it was always this way. Its so its clear which files belong to which theme, and they dont overwrite each other. |
| 19:33:42 | gevaerts | There should probably be a similar mechanism as with fonts |
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| 19:34:36 | S_a_i_n_t | gevaerts: As in, "themename.fnt"? |
| 19:35:05 | gevaerts | S_a_i_n_t: no. That's why I said "as with fonts" and not "with fonts" |
| 19:35:57 | S_a_i_n_t | Aha, right. Human parsing error, I still took it to mean the latter of those two. |
| 19:36:29 | gevaerts | I mean, allow referring to files that are in some standard set |
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| 19:39:38 | Bagder | the DNS problem is due to an oversight on our behalf from when we moved our server (and changed the secondary NS servers) |
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| 20:03:46 | kugel | Bagder: is it fixed now? |
| 20:03:52 | Bagder | no |
| 20:04:07 | Bagder | zagor's in charge of that and I've mailed him about it |
| 20:06:30 | kugel | alright |
| 20:08:02 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r26700): make meizu-m6sl bootloader build ... |
| 20:08:58 | bertrik | is anyone here working on a radio skin? |
| 20:09:52 | CIA-6 | New commit by bagder (r26701): s/rockbox.org// in the links so that it works better on temporary/other ... |
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| 20:12:21 | Buschel | anything speaking against submitting -O2 for flac? (I cannot gice the FS-ID as rockbox.org is down for me) |
| 20:12:49 | funman | Buschel: i'm speaking for it, just commit |
| 20:12:50 | Buschel | with -O2 flac is faster with current tools and much faster with eabi |
| 20:13:10 | notlistening | domonoky1, any bandwidth or should i just wait till it's done? |
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| 20:15:28 | djbrown | hi, is there a mirror for download.rockbox.org? |
| 20:15:34 | Buschel | wait, I forgot to ask for a test on a coldfire target. can anyone with a coldfire target check decoding speed of flac w/o and with this patch -> http://www.pastebin.org/319146 |
| 20:18:07 | djbrown | or an IP address for rockbox.org? |
| 20:19:27 | funman | djbrown: 80.67.6.50 |
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| 20:22:53 | kugel | Buschel: I would like to see a test on coldfire, but I'm for it too |
| 20:23:26 | domonoky1 | notlistening: what do you mean with bandwidth ? i didnt get around to look at your changes.. |
| 20:23:39 | Buschel | good. I will wait for a proper coldfire test :) |
| 20:24:01 | djbrown | so the site isn't looking good then? |
| 20:24:09 | Bagder | rockbox.haxx.se works somewhat for now |
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| 20:26:14 | notlistening | domonoky1, bandwidth = time for me :D |
| 20:26:21 | domonoky1 | :-) |
| 20:26:37 | domonoky1 | i will now look at that thing again.. :-) |
| 20:26:51 | domonoky1 | so i have "bandwidth" :-) |
| 20:27:19 | bluebrother | domonoky1: is the themesite already converted to the new syntax? |
| 20:27:46 | domonoky1 | bluebrother: no, i miss 'zip' on this server todo it.. |
| 20:27:54 | djbrown | Bagder: thanks. are there any builds on there? |
| 20:28:09 | domonoky1 | also the updatetheme.pl needs some fixing (the zip needs to be copied back) |
| 20:28:29 | domonoky1 | and dont know if JdGordon fixed the skinupdater now.. |
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| 20:31:45 | bluebrother | domonoky1: you only need zip, not unzip? |
| 20:31:58 | domonoky1 | unzip is there, but no zip |
| 20:32:14 | Bagder | djbrown: no... |
| 20:32:25 | bluebrother | building zip 3.0 from sources shows almost no dependencies, so I guess simply copying the binary should work. |
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| 20:33:13 | bluebrother | domonoky1: if you want to try: http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/zip |
| 20:33:23 | domonoky1 | bluebrother: good idea, will try later. |
| 20:33:42 | bluebrother | in case the server has gcc you could even build it yourself :) |
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| 20:33:53 | domonoky1 | notlistening: i just tested with windows and there open-sapi seems to work fine. :-) |
| 20:34:33 | Bagder | http://rbdownload.haxx.se/ has the rockbox downloads |
| 20:35:03 | domonoky1 | notlistening: regarding your comments on the tracker: rbutil should not call "killServer" after every wav file (unless there is a big bug somewhere).. how did you test that ? |
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| 20:36:02 | djbrown | Bagder: wahoo! thanks again. |
| 20:36:25 | domonoky1 | notlistening: i have to think about how i could improve the timeout thing. The longer i set those, the longer it will take before i can notify the user of errors. |
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| 20:37:18 | mk429 | so guys, i got the current build of the zvm bootloader and the zvm rockbox binary onto my vision:m (afte rmuch poking of things and figuring out of stuff) |
| 20:37:26 | mk429 | seem to just run some lcd and ATA tests |
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| 20:38:54 | mk429 | reading some stuff here -> http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8686 led me to believe people were running more than just driver tests, and actually had some rockbox gui stuff showing up |
| 20:38:59 | notlistening | domonoky1, RE killServer I can run the server externally in debug mode and rbutil talks to it as I was suggesting just fine and it calls killServer after the first Wav generation |
| 20:39:27 | mk429 | i also tried applying those patches to the relevant rev and could not build... is there anyone here who had anything to do with the ZVM port, or knows why it died? |
| 20:40:15 | domonoky1 | notlistening: was there a error with that generation ? It will call killServer and stop if there is a error. |
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| 20:40:55 | notlistening | domonoky1, with the timeouts the only time we need to really care about a timeout is when the server startsup. If we know the server is running then it responds giving feedback, if the server crashes then I have to fix the bugs and it is listed as unstable till it works properly |
| 20:41:19 | notlistening | domonoky1, just check for you |
| 20:46:23 | saratoga | mk429: i think only one person ever worked on it, and he started porting to some other device |
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| 20:49:30 | saratoga | IIRC the main issue was reverse engineering the creative file system (which was partially done by some other group years ago) and getting the buttons all working |
| 20:49:57 | domonoky1 | notlistening: currently i only have one timeout for all commands i send you.. and i wouldnt like to wait forever for the server. Even bug-free code can hang if somkething happens with the system. |
| 20:50:46 | domonoky1 | notlistening: and more then 5 seconds is a really long time to get a list of supported wav formats.. is there no faster way ? |
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| 20:54:06 | notlistening | domonoky1, I will get it to send them one by one so you are getting a response for your timeout ok, there is a faster way a mement of brilliance today helped me think of it so that will improve a lot |
| 20:54:26 | domonoky1 | :-) |
| 20:54:38 | funman | bertrik: i remember you have put some code on one of frank's meizus at devcon, you remember which one it was? |
| 20:55:04 | bertrik | funman, it was the M6SP, the thick one I think |
| 20:55:29 | notlistening | domonoky1, http://pastebin.com/vVShSDM6 |
| 20:55:38 | funman | meizu_dfu gets stuck at "GET CPU" step here |
| 20:56:28 | domonoky1 | notlistening: that pastebin doesnt exist |
| 20:56:28 | funman | i remember reading something about it on the forum thread, i'm reading it from the start |
| 20:56:28 | gevaerts | funman: are you root? |
| 20:56:28 | bertrik | you have to hold the M button and be root |
| 20:56:28 | funman | hm, i will try root |
| 20:56:40 | funman | GET CPU worked on the m6sl but then sending the firmware didn't |
| 20:56:57 | notlistening | http://pastebin.com/y9eKRtAk - spam protection :P |
| 20:57:16 | bertrik | I never tried the m6sl (because I don't have one), the samsung yp-s3 is similar though |
| 20:57:19 | funman | same thing :/ |
| 20:57:57 | bertrik | you're trying to flash the *bootloader* on the m6sp, right? |
| 20:58:03 | funman | right |
| 20:58:04 | saratoga | http://rockbox.haxx.se/irc/log-20100608 |
| 20:58:07 | saratoga | logs are working |
| 20:58:19 | funman | rockboot.ebn |
| 20:58:34 | notlistening | domonoky1, ther is an obvious killServer cmd being send there but for what reason ...? |
| 20:58:57 | bertrik | funman, that's the correct one, I'll try here and paste the meizu_dfu command line |
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| 21:00:00 | domonoky1 | notlistening: that log looks strange.. i wonder what it repeated 67 times.. |
| 21:00:18 | domonoky1 | then theres this strange closeClient comand from the server somewhere.. |
| 21:00:36 | bertrik | sudo ./meizu_dfu m6 SST39VF800.dfu ../../build-meizum6sp/rockboot.ebn |
| 21:00:45 | domonoky1 | but i think it sends the killServer command because it finsihed its list of things to voice. |
| 21:01:01 | notlistening | domonoky1, yeah closeClient is called to say that the server finished the last job |
| 21:01:07 | bertrik | I first press and hold the M button, then press and hold the power button, then insert the USB cable and release the power button |
| 21:01:27 | funman | hm i am releasing both |
| 21:01:48 | notlistening | domonoky1, but it only sends two the list is massive and they are the first two |
| 21:01:51 | bluebrother | do we want to create a new rbutil release the next couple of days or do we want to include the opensapi stuff first? |
| 21:01:52 | funman | still the same |
| 21:01:56 | domonoky1 | notlistening: so it sends that after every voicing ? |
| 21:02:32 | gevaerts | funman: are you running linux? |
| 21:02:46 | domonoky1 | notlistening: that answer confuses rbutil.. it just expects a 201:Synth OK after a speakMe command. |
| 21:02:53 | funman | gevaerts: yes |
| 21:02:56 | notlistening | domonoky1, yeah, a quirk of how the client run when used with another app |
| 21:03:20 | domonoky1 | bluebrother: we should make a new rbutil in the next few days.. i expect that open-sapi wont get really ready in time :-) |
| 21:03:50 | bluebrother | domonoky1: my feeling is that it would be better to wait with the opensapi too :) |
| 21:04:14 | bluebrother | just to make sure we don't introduce even more bugs than we already added in svn :) |
| 21:04:23 | notlistening | no worries, there are a lot of quirks to it at the moment |
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| 21:04:45 | bertrik | funman, then I don't know what's happening, are you sure you are trying to flash the m6sp and not the m6sl? |
| 21:05:28 | bertrik | does it at least finish the program sequence? maybe the LCD driver I implemented does not work on your player |
| 21:05:47 | funman | yes, although reading the forum further gave me some hint |
| 21:05:59 | funman | not releasing any button takes me one step further |
| 21:06:00 | notlistening | domonoky1, is it possible to accept both responses? |
| 21:07:35 | funman | bertrik: i have to keep pressing both buttons here, does that work for you too ? |
| 21:07:44 | bertrik | funman, I'm not sure I understand you (there is no further step after the programming sequence), this is what I get: http://pastebin.ca/1879226 |
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| 21:08:32 | gevaerts | funman: release power as soon as the transfer starts. If you hold it too long, the thing will reset |
| 21:08:34 | bertrik | yes, that works for me |
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| 21:08:46 | funman | gevaerts: if i don't release it, it'll get stuck at the first GET CPU |
| 21:08:54 | funman | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=10078.msg148760#msg148760 |
| 21:09:01 | gevaerts | funman: sure, so release it as soon as it gets past that :) |
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| 21:09:32 | funman | i was releasing after plugging USB, as wiki tells |
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| 21:11:08 | funman | i can enter DFU on m6sl by pressing only menu, but can't send code |
| 21:12:19 | gevaerts | funman: what commandline are you using? |
| 21:12:22 | bertrik | I should have documented more of the DFU process while I was looking into it about 3/4 of a year ago ... |
| 21:12:46 | funman | gevaerts: http://pastie.org/996742 |
| 21:13:26 | gevaerts | hm |
| 21:13:46 | bieber | Does anyone know offhand where the config files for the default themes are in the SVN tree? |
| 21:14:49 | bluebrother | bieber: the cabbie wps files? Or the cfgs for loading the theme? |
| 21:14:56 | bieber | The cfgs |
| 21:14:57 | bertrik | for the samsung yp-s3 (which is similar to the m6sl) I just send one file directly to RAM and execute it from RAM, I don't use the updateNAND thing to actually flash the NAND |
| 21:15:04 | bluebrother | the latter are generated during building |
| 21:15:20 | funman | gevaerts: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/MeizuM6Port#Recovery_mode_DFU , second sentence of step 1. should be SL, and not SP ? (on SL Hold M and then press and hold PLAY) |
| 21:15:47 | bieber | Oh, the Rockbox site is back up |
| 21:16:20 | funman | bertrik: ah, seems to work |
| 21:16:36 | funman | http://pastie.org/996750 |
| 21:16:37 | bertrik | the instruction on the wiki is a bit confusing indeed |
| 21:17:14 | bertrik | I don't know if we can run anything useful on the M6SL at all yet |
| 21:17:15 | bluebrother | bieber: check for wps/wpsbuild.pl |
| 21:17:51 | bertrik | gevaerts, do you know? would markun know? |
| 21:18:04 | gevaerts | funman: I suspect the first one should be SL |
| 21:18:35 | gevaerts | Mostly because power+M was on the wiki first, and both me and markun only had an SL at the time |
| 21:18:42 | funman | SL has no power button |
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| 21:18:53 | gevaerts | right |
| 21:19:22 | CIA-6 | New commit by bluebrother (r26702): Use program name variable instead of hardcoded name. ... |
| 21:20:40 | bertrik | I'll try to clear up the DFU description |
| 21:22:04 | gevaerts | funman: I'm pretty sure it's M first and then power or play (depending on which one exists) on all players |
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| 21:22:47 | bertrik | on M6SP and M3, power and play is one button, so perhaps better to just refer to the PLAY button and not mention POWER |
| 21:23:34 | gevaerts | And I'm also pretty sure that to reinstall the OF you need to release power/play after a while, or you'll get the thing in an interesting state |
| 21:24:02 | funman | i'll make myself more familiar with this |
| 21:24:10 | bertrik | I do remember some kind of reset circuit in the schematic indeed |
| 21:24:24 | gevaerts | funman: hm, I think updateNAND_BE_070831.dfu is the wrong file for the SL |
| 21:24:38 | gevaerts | no, wait |
| 21:24:51 | gevaerts | it's the right one |
| 21:27:24 | bertrik | funman, what did you do to make it work finally? |
| 21:28:04 | funman | bertrik: i used rockboot.ebn as first argument |
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| 21:29:34 | gevaerts | ok, you're running from RAM then |
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| 21:32:33 | bertrik | I don't know at what address the m6sl .ebn file is linked |
| 21:33:23 | gevaerts | I don't know (any more) either, but the first file is loaded to RAM |
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| 21:34:29 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r26703): Theme Editor: Made parser recover memory on error |
| 21:34:32 | funman | it's simpler on the AMS ! |
| 21:34:57 | bertrik | yeah, but the meizus have a much simpler "unbrick" procedure |
| 21:35:09 | gevaerts | If you can remember the buttons anyway :) |
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| 21:37:00 | funman | ;) |
| 21:38:09 | bertrik | how the m3 and m6sp DFU mode works is interesting: the first file you send (the flashloader) is built as a kind of plugin with basic flash functions (init, identify, erase, read, write). The primary bootloader still handles USB and just calls the flash functions to write the image to NOR. |
| 21:38:32 | bieber | Can anyone name me a target device with FM and a remote? |
| 21:39:02 | AlexP | gigabeat S, H100 |
| 21:39:04 | AlexP | H300 |
| 21:39:06 | gevaerts | bertrik: h120 or x5 definitely |
| 21:39:20 | AlexP | I guess you mean remote lcd? |
| 21:39:26 | bieber | Yes |
| 21:39:29 | AlexP | In which case not gigabeat S |
| 21:39:31 | gevaerts | Not bertrik obviously :) |
| 21:39:33 | bertrik | on the m6sl, the first file you sent is simply copied to RAM and started, so this flashloader contains all of the USB stuff |
| 21:39:39 | bieber | I'm just looking for something that'll give me a .cfg file to look at with every possible option |
| 21:39:56 | AlexP | H100, H300, x5 |
| 21:40:10 | bieber | Thanks |
| 21:40:43 | gevaerts | Also pixelma's M5, but that's a special case |
| 21:41:21 | bertrik | I remember I was thinking of writing a kind of RAM loader (as opposed to a *flash* loader) to allow the m3/m6sp to run from RAM too |
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| 21:44:21 | bieber | Now I just have to find a theme that actually declares rwps and rsbs |
| 21:45:55 | bieber | Those are separate options in the .cfg from wps and sbs, right? |
| 21:47:04 | domonoky | jup |
| 21:48:51 | bieber | Do you know of a theme that uses them? |
| 21:51:02 | bieber | nvm, iCatcher has it |
| 21:51:18 | domonoky | hm, nearly all themes in svn have rwps but didnt find one using a rsbs |
| 21:53:05 | domonoky | JdGordon| can the skinupdate now be trusted ? i have now everything prepared to upgrade the themes on the server.. |
| 21:55:14 | * | domonoky notices that he cant update the themes via shell.. no write access to the file.. *grr* |
| 21:56:43 | * | kugel questions domonoky's definition of having "everything prepared" :) |
| 21:59:05 | * | funman downloads ARM compiler |
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| 22:01:24 | bieber | When adding binary files to the repository, should I always stick with application/octet-stream, or add a more specific MIME type? |
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| 22:01:41 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 22:02:42 | bluebrother | bieber: when using a more specific mime type viewvc can show them better (especially images). |
| 22:02:50 | bieber | Okay |
| 22:02:57 | Buschel | anyone with a coldfire target willing to perform a short flac test? -> FS #11381 |
| 22:02:59 | bluebrother | svn itself doesn't need that, it only distinguished between text/plain and anything else |
| 22:03:04 | bieber | I realize now that I forget to set them on all my images :/ |
| 22:03:21 | bluebrother | as long as you don't have svn:keywords enabled it shouldn't harm. |
| 22:03:39 | bluebrother | except for the fact that viewvc might try to display the files as text :) |
| 22:03:56 | kugel | funman: did you post a bug report about the thumb bug? |
| 22:04:14 | funman | no, scary people post on their bugzilla |
| 22:04:27 | funman | also i want to try ARM RVCT linker |
| 22:04:39 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r26704): Theme Editor: Fixed MIME types on image resources |
| 22:05:52 | funman | kugel: can you test the binary i uploaded on my ftp ? (built with -mthumb -mlong-calls) |
| 22:06:29 | kugel | funman: on my e200? can you post the link again? |
| 22:06:57 | funman | http://rafael.carre.perso.sfr.fr/rockbox.zip |
| 22:07:36 | funman | now i'm testing if/how -Os affects test_codec on fuzev1 |
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| 22:09:19 | kugel | no boot :( |
| 22:11:11 | funman | sh*t |
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| 22:17:01 | bertrik | pamaury, I'm quite sure now that the mystery radio chip in the clip+ is a chip from silabs, but I haven't been able to find any datasheet that seems to match it |
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| 22:18:17 | pamaury | bertrik: that's a shame. What makes you think that ? I can have a look for it if you have a more precise reference, otherwise, try asking them directly. Except if you can reverse engineer the of of course |
| 22:19:46 | bertrik | pamaury, the register for setting the fm frequency seems to be at the same register address, other stuff like forcing mono, setting emphasis, etc. is at different register addresses. Also it has the same i2c address (0x10) as the si4700 |
| 22:20:38 | Stephen__ | what monochrome ports are there, ipod mini and the archoses ? |
| 22:21:09 | AlexP | I thought mini was greyscale not mono |
| 22:21:39 | Stephen__ | correct, my question relates to the original packaged themes to put on the theme site |
| 22:21:51 | Stephen__ | i have the ipod mini and archoses done but will have to convert them now |
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| 22:21:57 | AlexP | I don't follow |
| 22:22:27 | Stephen__ | i was the person who put up the icatcher et all to be taken out of the builds for the theme site but i never got round to finishing them |
| 22:22:28 | notlistening | domonoky, another comment added, not sure if it is the problem but we will see, I think that is the issue looking at the logs |
| 22:22:38 | bluebrother | ipod mini is greyscale |
| 22:22:41 | AlexP | Stephen__: Yes, and that was/is good work :) |
| 22:22:46 | bertrik | pamaury, I think I'll manage it by looking at the OF. If you ever open your clip+, could you make photos of the radio chip so I can read the type number? |
| 22:22:58 | AlexP | Stephen__: But I don't get what you are asking about the mini |
| 22:23:01 | Stephen__ | i'll wait till the themesite changes are in place and convert them |
| 22:23:10 | Stephen__ | is that all i have left to do in other words ? |
| 22:23:20 | Stephen__ | i haven'tforgotten othr targets ? |
| 22:23:22 | pamaury | bertrik: it's unlikely that I will but if so, yes. |
| 22:23:29 | gevaerts | there are more mono targets than the archoses |
| 22:23:30 | AlexP | Stephen__: But the mini isn't mono |
| 22:23:53 | bluebrother | bieber: just tried building the theme editor on Windows using MSVC. It did even work (had to make only one simple change) :) |
| 22:23:55 | pamaury | Can you close it after opening it ? Is it easy ? dangerous ? |
| 22:24:09 | Stephen__ | what else is mono ? |
| 22:24:20 | AlexP | mrobe 100 |
| 22:24:28 | bluebrother | mrobe100 is monochrome |
| 22:24:35 | Stephen__ | what screen size is that |
| 22:24:37 | Stephen__ | ? |
| 22:24:39 | gevaerts | sansa clip |
| 22:24:42 | bertrik | pamaury, I have no idea, I think I read it's a little easier than the clipv1, but I don't think I can open a clipv1 without damaging it |
| 22:24:43 | bluebrother | 160x128 iirc |
| 22:24:47 | AlexP | 160x128 |
| 22:24:48 | bieber | bluebrother: What was the change? |
| 22:24:59 | Stephen__ | best grab a build and get on them then |
| 22:25:06 | bluebrother | bieber: some change in a c file to make it c89 compatible. |
| 22:25:15 | AlexP | The iriver remotes are mono too I think |
| 22:25:16 | bieber | Oh, okay |
| 22:25:20 | bieber | MSVC doesn't do C99? |
| 22:25:23 | bluebrother | i.e. swap some initialization with local variable instanciation. |
| 22:25:33 | bertrik | pamaury, I guess it's likely you'll damage the case of the player a bit if you open it |
| 22:25:38 | gevaerts | bieber: indeed not |
| 22:25:44 | funman | pamaury: bertrik: there are guides over there for disassmebling the clips. If you damage it (a bit) you can still put it back |
| 22:25:47 | bluebrother | no. At least not VS2005 (which I'm using), afaik VS2008 neither. I bet 2010 won't do as well. |
| 22:25:55 | Stephen__ | hmm are the ones in the mrobe page ok to go with, I used the m5 ones for that |
| 22:27:22 | pamaury | bertrik: I'll think about it, if you real need that |
| 22:28:02 | bertrik | pamaury, please don't do it yet just for this |
| 22:28:18 | pamaury | don't worry :) |
| 22:28:22 | funman | use X-rays! |
| 22:29:08 | bieber | bluebrother: Do you know if there is any kind of signal emitted when a non-editable item in a QTreeView is double-clicked? |
| 22:30:12 | bluebrother | bieber: sorry, no. |
| 22:30:16 | bieber | Oh wait, nevermind. It does have an activated signal, it just wasn't showing on the doc page because it's inherited |
| 22:30:38 | funman | there's a link at the top of doc pages to show all inherited signals/members |
| 22:31:58 | kugel | bieber: the docs clearly follow the OOP philosophy :) |
| 22:32:24 | bieber | Haha :) |
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| 22:36:08 | pixelma | Stephen__: some of the M5 themes might not work on the MRobe100 as monochrome can't do e.g. albumart or backdrops. Or the look suboptimal if images intended for greyscale or even colour are rendered in monochrome. Cabbiev2 as an example uses bitmaps created especially for those screens |
| 22:36:29 | pixelma | if that's what you are asking - I just read the backlog a but |
| 22:36:34 | pixelma | err... bit |
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| 22:36:55 | Stephen__ | so will I just upload new ones for the mrobe ? altho they will duplicate on the site then as they're organized via screen size as opposed to target |
| 22:37:13 | pixelma | huh? |
| 22:37:54 | Stephen__ | the object is to remove the themes from the builds and put them on the theme site |
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| 22:38:26 | Stephen__ | if they show up already on the mrobe page if i upload mrobe specific ones it will overright the existing ones and not work on other targets |
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| 22:39:44 | pixelma | ah... I don't know how many of the theme site ones were especially made for the M:Robe100. I believe most of them were greyscale or colour ones that just happened to "work" on the monochrome too. They should be picked up automatically by the themesite again now... I though you were talking about SVN themes |
| 22:40:14 | pixelma | thought |
| 22:40:18 | Stephen__ | i kinda am, i'm taking the svn themes to put on the theme site |
| 22:41:01 | pixelma | I think you need to compare if there are different versions available |
| 22:41:38 | Stephen__ | hmm good point, i have the archos and ipo dmini to convert once the themesite changes go live |
| 22:42:00 | domonoky | Stephen__: it would be good if you could wait with theme uploading a bit, till we got the themes on the site all converted. |
| 22:42:15 | Stephen__ | yeah that's what i'm hanging back for |
| 22:42:34 | Stephen__ | have them here but they're in the old syntax |
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| 22:47:06 | wodz | We are just after release so I was thinking about some codebase cleanups. What do You think about commiting FS #11189 as a starting point? (It will need sync probably) |
| 22:47:37 | funman | wodz: looks good, i don't know if amiconn wanted to test it first |
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| 22:48:52 | wodz | pixelma did some tests when I posted this. I don't recall final result of the tests |
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| 22:54:11 | bluebrother | gnah :( |
| 22:54:26 | bluebrother | Qt 4.6.3 is out but they haven't fixed this really annoying warning on mac :( |
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| 22:56:17 | CIA-6 | New commit by alle (r26705): Fix some accented glyphs in 35-Nimbus |
| 22:56:19 | amiconn | wodz: That patch throws away the history of some files. Imo the history should be kept |
| 22:57:56 | wodz | amiconn: I don't understand |
| 22:59:14 | pixelma | wodz: if I remember corretly there were no problems. During the first test I experienced disk corruption on my Ondio but couldn't reproduce other times, so I think now that it was unrelated to that patch |
| 22:59:18 | amiconn | In your patch "dac3550a.c" looks like it would be fresh code. Of course the header has the old copyright, but moving files around the tree should be done using 'svn cp' or 'svn mv' in order to keep the history |
| 22:59:39 | amiconn | There might be more files like that - it's just the first I noticed |
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| 23:00:42 | wodz | amiconn: aa ok. I thought You mean something more fundamental |
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| 23:05:07 | wodz | amiconn: can You post somwhere Your patch to greylib and HD200 so I can test it? |
| 23:05:23 | amiconn | Yes. |
| 23:05:44 | amiconn | Did you do a baseline performance test (using test_fps) yet? |
| 23:06:11 | wodz | no I want to do it all at once |
| 23:07:11 | funman | http://pastie.org/996944 <- using -Os on fuzev1 |
| 23:08:10 | funman | cook & aac-lc are slightly slower |
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| 23:11:37 | amiconn | wodz: Ok. amiconn.dyndns.org/~jens/greylib_mpio.diff">http://amiconn.dyndns.org/~jens/greylib_mpio.diff |
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| 23:14:25 | wodz | amiconn: Ok I will test this |
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| 23:19:08 | funman | saratoga: perhaps building codecs with -Os might show optimizable bits ? |
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| 23:21:35 | bertrik | yuk@hwcompat.h |
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| 23:28:42 | amiconn | What's up with the style on build.rockbox.org? |
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| 23:30:30 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r26706): Theme Editor: Began implementing classes to display project files and settings in the project panel |
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| 23:33:17 | leavittx | Sorry, but have someone done anything after that git pull will fail with merge conflicts? Changed git history, etc? I use official rockbox git repo. |
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| 23:34:52 | Bagder | amiconn: its probably due to my changing of some absolute urls to relative ones to make things work on a temporary rockbox site |
| 23:35:12 | Bagder | I guess I'll revert those changes shortly |
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| 23:40:16 | funman | leavittx: no, use git reset −−hard master; git pull |
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| 23:44:27 | leavittx | funman: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/223360/ −− I don't get what is it :( |
| 23:45:00 | funman | leavittx: did you read what i just said |
| 23:45:14 | kugel | leavittx: did you do a lot of git svn rebase before? |
| 23:45:57 | leavittx | funman: it's output of 'git reset −−hard master; git pull' |
| 23:47:10 | leavittx | kugel: i have no idea what is git svn rebase :) |
| 23:48:12 | leavittx | I use git://git.rockbox.org/rockbox −− no svn so |
| 23:48:38 | kugel | leavittx: I also get those huge merge conflicts, I have no idea why but I always thought they're caused by git svn |
| 23:49:30 | kugel | I usually just delete master in that case |
| 23:49:43 | leavittx | how? |
| 23:50:12 | kugel | git brach -d <branch> |
| 23:50:28 | leavittx | and what happen after this? |
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| 23:53:09 | leavittx | kugel: did you mean branch? :) |
| 23:53:31 | leavittx | error: Cannot delete the branch 'master' which you are currently on. |
| 23:53:32 | leavittx | hmmm |
| 23:53:46 | kugel | leavittx: let's talk about it in -community |
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