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| 00:12:48 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r26707): manual: Rockbox Utility supports all clips |
| 00:16:45 | kugel | gevaerts: kugel-rb.git/commit/8576b9cb9bc3ae6ab8e4f751a853a437ea50bfc2">http://repo.or.cz/w/kugel-rb.git/commit/8576b9cb9bc3ae6ab8e4f751a853a437ea50bfc2 |
| 00:17:25 | gevaerts | Well done! |
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| 00:19:08 | gevaerts | kugel: do you actually need MODEL_NUMBER? |
| 00:19:51 | gevaerts | I'm not convinced that RoLo is that useful in RaaA |
| 00:19:53 | kugel | dunno |
| 00:20:00 | kugel | is it only used for rolo? |
| 00:20:17 | gevaerts | and drivers/serial.c |
| 00:20:28 | gevaerts | oh, and the flasher plugins |
| 00:20:49 | kugel | I think the model number should come from configure, but that's just me |
| 00:21:10 | kugel | hm, maybe not |
| 00:21:35 | kugel | it wouldn't work for the traditional recorder8mb or ipodvideo64mb special cases |
| 00:21:46 | kugel | (I think) |
| 00:22:00 | kugel | see, I don't know what these numbers actually are for so I just kept it :P |
| 00:22:16 | gevaerts | I just quickly grepped :) |
| 00:22:31 | * | gevaerts thinks that we should rename AB_REPEAT_ENABLE to HAVE_AB_REPEAT |
| 00:23:17 | gevaerts | hm, weird |
| 00:24:14 | gevaerts | AB_REPEAT_ENABLE apparently has two possible variants, only one of which is used |
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| 00:26:58 | gevaerts | kugel: FIRMWARE_OFFSET_FILE_* can also go. rolo only |
| 00:28:23 | gevaerts | Not that it's very important, but having that config file short seems nice |
| 00:28:46 | kugel | I agree |
| 00:30:54 | gevaerts | CONFIG_LCD seems to be needed just to provide a value... |
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| 00:31:46 | kugel | that one is also a miracle to me |
| 00:31:48 | gevaerts | hm, might it be possible to use external libs for things like image loading? |
| 00:32:10 | kugel | I think it only exists since rockboy has some optimizations for the h300 display |
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| 00:33:15 | gevaerts | CONFIG_LCD seems to be used for three things: (a) some optimisations in plugins (h300 and x5), (b) in an ipod LCD driver, and (c) for archos non-square-pixel handling |
| 00:33:54 | gevaerts | oh, and to decide whether greylib needs boosting |
| 00:34:01 | kugel | IIRC the archos non-square-pixel handling can be (and is in several places) done differently |
| 00:34:25 | gevaerts | that should be another define I think |
| 00:40:45 | gevaerts | kugel: I assume the power things should also go at some point |
| 00:41:56 | gevaerts | And in an app one probably shouldn't care about CPU frequency |
| 00:42:03 | kugel | what power things? |
| 00:42:48 | gevaerts | CURRENT_* |
| 00:43:15 | kugel | oh yes, probably. I haven't looked into not even compiling powermgmt.c and friends |
| 00:43:18 | kugel | yet |
| 00:43:28 | gevaerts | sure, one step at a time :) |
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| 00:44:48 | kugel | there's a lot of rather minor stuff that should be fixed eventually, but I don't know where to start :) |
| 00:44:53 | literal | JdGordon: nice, theme works now |
| 00:44:56 | * | gevaerts also reminds kugel of the sim rockbox libc vs system libc option :) |
| 00:45:50 | kugel | for know I just want to focus on actually making an app and pack it as a zip so it can be installed somewhere else |
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| 00:47:53 | gevaerts | I guess there are two big things left (when looking at RaaA as a whole, not necessarily just at this GSoC), filesystem integration and widgets, and then lots and lots of little things like power management and plugins that make no sense |
| 00:49:09 | kugel | I think the widgets thing needs to be discussed |
| 00:49:41 | kugel | I'm not entirely convinced if it's desired to use OS widgets |
| 00:49:55 | gevaerts | I'm not convinced either |
| 00:51:38 | gevaerts | Maybe someone should do a proof of concept for some bits like e.g. the splashes |
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| 00:55:07 | funman | gevaerts: backlight should work on m6sl, right ? |
| 00:55:22 | gevaerts | funman: it did at some point anyway |
| 00:55:38 | funman | i'll try checking out this revision to be sure |
| 00:55:57 | funman | i can't try on m6sp because i did an OF upgrade and it's now stuck with backlight flashing :/ |
| 00:57:19 | gevaerts | funman: there's no backlight function yet, but bootloader/meizu_m6sl.c should turn it off and on |
| 00:57:35 | funman | yes it works in r18531 |
| 00:58:46 | gevaerts | m6sl was somewhat pushed back by the m3 when that one got a working LCD driver. I'm not sure if the clocks are set up correctly on m6sl these days |
| 00:59:51 | funman | do you remember if the 1 second wait was for the first file upload to run its own DFU mode ? |
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| 01:00:45 | gevaerts | almost certainly |
| 01:04:18 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r26708): meizu_dfu: supports a single argument to run some code from RAM |
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| 01:20:17 | funman | indeed, r18827 says More work is needed to get the m6sl "working" again |
| 01:26:23 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r26709): arm/crt0.S: s58l* don't use this file, no need for 'DFUC' string ... |
| 01:27:42 | funman | s5l8* :/ |
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| 02:04:42 | JdGordon | kugel: it only worked because of the special casing already there |
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| 02:25:41 | q__ | hi, how comes the stable build is greyed out in the rockbox utility? |
| 02:25:48 | q__ | I'd like to enjoy theme support |
| 02:26:32 | q__ | and as most themes do not work with the current build, will they work again soon or do they all need to be updated by the authors? |
| 02:27:03 | JdGordon | stable is greyed out? |
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| 02:28:06 | q__ | JdGordon at least for the (unsuported) D2 player |
| 02:28:22 | JdGordon | if it is unsupported there is no release/stable build |
| 02:28:49 | JdGordon | if you force it to ipod video then you will be able to get the d2 themes |
| 02:28:53 | JdGordon | they use the same lcd size |
| 02:29:08 | q__ | JdGordon ah, allright... |
| 02:29:20 | q__ | but I think thats not the problem |
| 02:29:38 | q__ | the theme-selection seems to be fine and D2 specific |
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| 02:31:50 | cougarten | sory, nickname trouble |
| 02:31:54 | cougarten | http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?target=ipodvideo |
| 02:31:56 | cougarten | see all the red notes? |
| 02:32:30 | cougarten | I'd need release 3.6 as it seems |
| 02:32:50 | cougarten | how can I get it :) (as there seem to be no version numbers for the unstable builds) |
| 02:33:33 | JdGordon | you cant |
| 02:33:37 | JdGordon | you need to build it yourself |
| 02:33:43 | cougarten | :/ |
| 02:33:52 | JdGordon | hang on |
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| 02:34:02 | cougarten | and do you know if those themes will be supported again soon? |
| 02:34:33 | JdGordon | they plan is yes they will be |
| 02:34:44 | JdGordon | they will be updated with a script |
| 02:34:47 | cougarten | ah ok, cool |
| 02:35:00 | cougarten | thanks a lot :) |
| 02:35:29 | cougarten | just out of couriosity and if you have the time to answer: what did you change and why? |
| 02:36:07 | JdGordon | the skin format |
| 02:36:17 | JdGordon | jdgordon.info/rockbox/rockbox-d2.zip">http://jdgordon.info/rockbox/rockbox-d2.zip |
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| 02:40:09 | cougarten | JdGordon did you just compile it for me? |
| 02:40:23 | JdGordon | yes |
| 02:40:34 | cougarten | thx, you are my hero of the day :) |
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| 02:55:39 | DarkSpectrum | On curret release themes, what is the invalid token error usualy pointing to? |
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| 03:54:43 | * | JdGordon is annoyed that Folder.jpg isnt being found in the sim because ext3 is case sensitive :( |
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| 04:03:47 | cougarten | JdGordon could the album art thing be set to take any jpg it can find in that folder if no folder.jpg or something is found? |
| 04:04:08 | JdGordon | no, we wont do that |
| 04:04:41 | cougarten | ok :/ why? |
| 04:05:21 | JdGordon | because.. it isnt that hard to rename your jpgs to folder.jpg |
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| 04:06:22 | cougarten | JdGordon throughout my entire mess of music? I'd rather live without it and be anhappy about it :) |
| 04:06:43 | cougarten | oh and btw, who ever made thet fft plugin, I love it! |
| 04:07:10 | cougarten | (I chose my mediaplayer on the computer just because of that function too) |
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| 04:29:38 | JdGordon | FS #11270 is looking really good... almost ready for commit |
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| 04:33:22 | JdGordon | kugel: something for RaaA... get it to listen for the keyboard media keys... :) |
| 04:34:58 | Llorean | JdGordon: All the sims could do that - react to an HID capable Rockbox target (if the target they sim is HID capable) exactly like the player would. |
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| 04:42:30 | cougarten | wasn't there a pre-amp setting once or something to lower the lowest volume lvl? |
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| 04:42:33 | JdGordon | did anyone make a patch for that? I remember lots of talk about it |
| 04:42:39 | cougarten | my headphones are quite sensible |
| 04:42:44 | JdGordon | (controlling the sim from a real target) |
| 04:44:18 | Llorean | cougarten: "precut" for the equalizer. Or replaygain. |
| 04:44:36 | Llorean | JdGordon: I think it's mostly just been talked about but never acted on. |
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| 04:45:34 | cougarten | thank you |
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| 06:11:06 | chrissavery | seems like irc logs on website are down? can't see history, so maybe this has been mentioned already. |
| 06:11:46 | JdGordon | hey |
| 06:12:03 | JdGordon | chrissavery: I dont see where you added the splash? |
| 06:12:31 | chrissavery | should be in root_menu.c just before while/user_abort |
| 06:12:37 | chrissavery | checking now |
| 06:12:44 | JdGordon | oh yes |
| 06:12:58 | chrissavery | good |
| 06:13:16 | chrissavery | for me it just very briefly pops up before pf shows. |
| 06:13:29 | JdGordon | I thought you should put that inside the while loop |
| 06:13:51 | chrissavery | doesn't it stay up during loop anyway? |
| 06:14:06 | chrissavery | or does user abort somehow cancel it? |
| 06:14:28 | JdGordon | it does but there is no need to show it if we are ready |
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| 06:15:27 | JdGordon | it owuld be nice if there was a button to go back to the wps in pf without going through the muen |
| 06:15:29 | chrissavery | ah, I suppose it could be made dependent on user abort return so it never shows if ready |
| 06:15:29 | JdGordon | menu |
| 06:15:54 | chrissavery | >|| (fn9) will do that direct. |
| 06:16:22 | JdGordon | that restarts the cd though? |
| 06:16:40 | JdGordon | |<< goes back :) |
| 06:17:05 | chrissavery | no only select (ctr) restarts, the >|| will just switch scrn. or well, on my fuze this is how the keys work. |
| 06:17:33 | JdGordon | e200 >|| starts playback |
| 06:17:39 | chrissavery | oh yes, << goes back too unless you came in from menu. it is actually "previous". |
| 06:17:43 | JdGordon | anyway I'm good to commit it if you are ready |
| 06:17:54 | JdGordon | a few minor touch ups need to be done which I'll do |
| 06:17:59 | chrissavery | sure, ok. |
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| 06:19:08 | chrissavery | I wonder why e200 is different. it's probably just how pf has key maps set. I didn't chg it but added one key for fuze. |
| 06:19:46 | chrissavery | are #2-#7 also checked over. they are all pretty small. |
| 06:21:41 | JdGordon | I'll do #1 then 2-7 seperatly |
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| 06:23:54 | chrissavery | ok. let me know if any questions. going for lunch now but back after. |
| 06:25:44 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26710): FS #11270 by Chris Savery - WPS integration for pictureflow |
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| 06:29:04 | JdGordon | bah |
| 06:30:04 | JdGordon | chrissavery: can you fix those compile errors on low mem targets? |
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| 06:56:09 | chrissavery | what errors? I haven't seen any - how do I simulate a low-mem target? |
| 06:57:15 | JdGordon | build the clip target |
| 06:57:19 | JdGordon | or archos recorder |
| 06:57:30 | JdGordon | or check build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi |
| 06:57:57 | chrissavery | I have clip+ set up here - will that work? |
| 06:58:43 | JdGordon | no |
| 06:58:55 | JdGordon | clip+ has 8mb ram.. clip only has 512K or something |
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| 06:59:08 | chrissavery | ok, will try now. |
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| 07:16:03 | chrissavery | ok. builds now for clip. how do you want the chg - just a new patch with fix? |
| 07:18:16 | JdGordon | pastebin the diff is fine |
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| 07:25:22 | S_a_i_n_t | How do I add a filename into disktidy.rock for deletion? ie. (AlbumArt_{3516AD66-F98B-45C6-A872-73A764E55371}_Large)? |
| 07:25:39 | S_a_i_n_t | that way, I have to do less cleanup drag & dropping from WMP |
| 07:26:07 | S_a_i_n_t | If I'm right, it would only need to match of AlbumArt |
| 07:26:14 | S_a_i_n_t | s/of/on/ |
| 07:27:29 | chrissavery | JdGordon: pastebin.com/raw.php?i=PR8Lj2fH |
| 07:27:30 | S_a_i_n_t | there's also things like "AlbumArt_Small" IIRC, so just matching AlbumArt would do but I can't seem to figure it out :/ |
| 07:37:59 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26711): fix errors |
| 07:41:52 | chrissavery | I take it that all zeros in the build chart is desired? |
| 07:42:27 | chrissavery | why would someone use pictureflow if not "playback capable"? |
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| 07:43:37 | JdGordon | because it is pretty |
| 07:44:55 | S_a_i_n_t | chrissavery: It's been in RB for ages without playback ;) |
| 07:45:12 | chrissavery | :) |
| 07:45:12 | S_a_i_n_t | though, plenty of people had said "wouldn;t it be cool if...." |
| 07:45:23 | S_a_i_n_t | then, you came along. |
| 07:45:32 | JdGordon | chrissavery: have you got a combined patch for the 2-7? |
| 07:45:59 | chrissavery | not currently. can make one if you want... |
| 07:46:26 | JdGordon | please :) |
| 07:46:36 | S_a_i_n_t | There are a few other patches to add playback to pictureflow, but you kinda took it to another level. I was pretty happy when I stumbled across your patch. I only realised it was committed just now when my svn up choked :D |
| 07:46:46 | S_a_i_n_t | Congrats man \o/ |
| 07:47:08 | chrissavery | thanks. hope there aren't any more issues with it. |
| 07:47:58 | chrissavery | I'll co r26711 and make a combined patch against it. |
| 07:48:00 | S_a_i_n_t | I should have caught this convo earlier...I kludged 2~7 into one patch last night. |
| 07:48:08 | S_a_i_n_t | ah, wait...it was 1a~7 |
| 07:48:29 | chrissavery | I'll do it - just take a few secs to get sync'd. |
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| 08:03:51 | Buschel | gevaerts: thanks for the test! good to know cf should be kept on -O1 for flac. I will commit a patch that will use -O2 for arm and -O1 otherwise. |
| 08:04:33 | chrissavery | JdGordon: do you want combined 2-7 as pastebin? |
| 08:04:44 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 08:05:58 | chrissavery | I'm just doing a final build test on my fuze and clip to make sure no hassles. |
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| 08:21:06 | chrissavery | JdGordon: here ya go: pastebin.com/raw.php?i=r3qrg4J2 |
| 08:21:31 | CIA-6 | New commit by Buschel (r26712): Submit FS #11381. Use -O2 for ffmpegFLAC on ARM targets. This will give reasonable speed-up (+3% on PP502x) for svn and major speed-up when switching ... |
| 08:24:29 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26713): remainder of FS #11270 - bug fixes and updates for picureflow |
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| 08:38:53 | wodz | www.rockbox.org/irc gives me blank page |
| 08:39:48 | Stummi | is there a way to find out the possible frequency-range for an mp3-player with radio? |
| 08:41:48 | wodz | Stummi: freq reange for FM? |
| 08:42:51 | Stummi | Yes |
| 08:43:33 | wodz | the FM chip datasheet |
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| 08:44:12 | Stummi | wodz, and the FM Chip i will get from the mp3-player datasheet, right? |
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| 08:45:15 | wodz | Stummi: If You are lucky |
| 08:46:15 | wodz | usually FM band range is specified by the producer of player - they like to show numbers :-) |
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| 08:47:44 | Stummi | wodz, I am thinking, they only will the range specified the range, which is possible to choose in the OFM. But maybe the Hardware Supports a bigger range |
| 08:48:09 | Stummi | s/will/will write/ |
| 08:48:51 | wodz | Stummi: some chips do some not. There are chips produced in different versions for different countries/world regions for example |
| 08:49:13 | Stummi | ok |
| 08:50:07 | Stummi | that was the intention of my question. I thought the chips supports a wide range and are just delimited by the Firmware-Localisation or so |
| 08:50:17 | wodz | besides, chip is not everything - analog part (filters etc.) is tuned for some bandwidth and may not work correctly |
| 08:51:17 | wodz | Stummi: look for example for Philips TEA57xx - there is UK version and regular version |
| 08:51:25 | Stummi | ok, so the best way to find out would be, to just try it? |
| 08:52:24 | wodz | the only bullet proof method is to open player, have luck to find FM chip and get datasheet for the part |
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| 08:56:55 | S_a_i_n_t | with luck, you may find scans of the PCB and not have to open the DAP DIY |
| 08:57:06 | S_a_i_n_t | (accronym hell :P) |
| 08:57:32 | Stummi | there are pictures in the wiki: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaFuze |
| 08:58:08 | Stummi | Fuze v2 is the player i have |
| 08:58:45 | amiconn | JdGordon: Why does charcell see a binsize increase from PF integration? It definitely can't use PF. |
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| 08:59:02 | JdGordon | ask chrissavery |
| 08:59:05 | wodz | Stummi: As far as I remember the FM chip used in fuze v2 is unknown |
| 08:59:08 | chrissavery | whats charcell? |
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| 09:01:44 | amiconn | Charcell display, i.e. the Player. No bitmap display -> no bitmaps -> pictureflow cannot exist |
| 09:01:53 | JdGordon | how much does a lang string add? |
| 09:02:04 | JdGordon | all the database ones are marked *: |
| 09:02:04 | wodz | amiconn: why in grey_core.c boost is forced if LCD_TL0350A is defined? Is it because of slow serial transfer in M3? |
| 09:02:41 | amiconn | JdGordon: That is correct. All targets have the database |
| 09:02:49 | pixelma | JdGordon: not much (if something at all) if you use the correct feature |
| 09:03:00 | pixelma | in case you mean pictureflow |
| 09:03:03 | amiconn | And a lang string adds the C string size |
| 09:03:10 | amiconn | (plus 4 bytes in bss) |
| 09:03:55 | amiconn | But PF integration is not just the lang string, it adds several code snippets here and there |
| 09:05:11 | JdGordon | chrissavery: better add the #HAVE_PICTUREFLOW define like I suggested then :) |
| 09:05:29 | wodz | pixelma: would you test sync'ed version of MAS-cleanup patch? |
| 09:06:22 | amiconn | wodz: Yes, iirc |
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| 09:07:04 | pixelma | wodz: I can't do this before tomorrow evening at least but I would if I find some time then (still on vacation ;) ) |
| 09:07:06 | amiconn | Or rarther, that's only one reason. |
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| 09:07:39 | wodz | amiconn: what is the criteria to run boosted/unboosted in greylib? |
| 09:07:49 | amiconn | The transfer timing on the M3 must be adjusted to CPU clock. For ordinary updates this is done by selecting the proper subroutine for boosted or unboosted |
| 09:10:44 | amiconn | Hmm, actually it might be possible to allow unboosted greylib on M3, but then there also need to be two versions of that asm function |
| 09:12:05 | pixelma | about this "WPS integration" of pictureflow - I'm reading the patch description in the tracker but still am not very clear how to use it, hwcodec or swcodec. Will I find "Pictureflow" in the menu now alongside "Database" and "Files" or what? Is there an update of the manual already or at least planned? |
| 09:12:14 | amiconn | wodz: There can be two reasons. Either running unboosted is too slow for the required frame rate, or cpu frequency changes during lcd transfers are causing instability. The latter is the reason why all PP targets are boosting in the greylib |
| 09:13:06 | wodz | amiconn: what is desired framerate? over 25 or higher? |
| 09:13:28 | amiconn | The desired frame rate is whatever is needed for the specific lcd |
| 09:14:19 | amiconn | On M3 we can only do 1/3 of that, even when boosted. Otherwise the transfer would be too fast for the lcd controller |
| 09:15:10 | chrissavery | jdgordon: yes, I see now. it's probably added a start menu, hotkey option b/c tag_cache is present. where do I define the HAVE_PICTUREFLOW ? I'm not aware of which targets will want/not want it. |
| 09:15:12 | amiconn | Probably not the LCD controller (that one should be good for 10MHz transfer speed), but the long wires in the remote. Going >2 MHz makes transfers rather unreliable |
| 09:15:59 | chrissavery | JdGordon: wouldn't there already be a decision whether to build and include the pf plugin during build? |
| 09:16:04 | pixelma | chrissavery: is the hotkey mandatory? There are targets without it (if you added to the already existing hotkey function) |
| 09:16:18 | wodz | amiconn: I will ask in different way - If I remove this define which forces boost in greylib how do I tell if everything is still correct? |
| 09:16:27 | JdGordon | chrissavery: all except HAVE_LCD_CHARCELL I guess |
| 09:16:37 | chrissavery | it is inside the define that decides whether to include hotkey or not IIRC HAVE_HOTKEY |
| 09:16:48 | amiconn | JdGordon: Are you sure? Will PF work on lowmem targets, or on hwcodec? |
| 09:17:03 | JdGordon | apparently it is built for them |
| 09:17:04 | amiconn | (lowmem meaning Clip v1 and similar) |
| 09:17:17 | chrissavery | HAVE_PICTUREFLOW = !HAVE_LCD_CHARCELL && HAVE_TAG_CACHE |
| 09:17:25 | amiconn | Being built for a target doesn't necessarily mean it will work |
| 09:17:36 | pixelma | chrissavery: my question was more like: is there another way to access it - if it is not then |
| 09:18:04 | chrissavery | if no hotkey you can use wps context menu. now has pictureflow item |
| 09:18:07 | amiconn | Afaik PF grabs the audio buffer, but I'm not sure whether it does this on all targets or just on lowmem |
| 09:19:18 | chrissavery | I think it grabs buffer on all except lowmem - in that case it disables playback. but with integration now it really doesn't need to do playback in pf any more. |
| 09:19:28 | amiconn | ? |
| 09:19:32 | chrissavery | or something like that. |
| 09:20:13 | chrissavery | well, I don't mean disables playback but it disables functions that allow controlling playback. |
| 09:20:43 | chrissavery | IIRC it disables the track list and calls to start_playback. |
| 09:20:52 | chrissavery | for lowmem |
| 09:21:12 | chrissavery | so it's just a browser that can't DO anything. |
| 09:21:44 | pixelma | chrissavery: on lowmem pictureflow needs the audio buffer "for itself" because it doesn't fit in the plugin buffer (lowmem uses a smaller one) |
| 09:22:12 | S_a_i_n_t | I'm looking at adding additional files to clean into "disktidy.rock", from what I can see from "disktidy.config"...it needs to match the filename exactly, is this correct? Is there no way to match on a partial filename? |
| 09:22:41 | pixelma | chrissavery: and it would need to manage clearing audio buffer so that playback can start etc. |
| 09:22:54 | S_a_i_n_t | the files I want to clean include randomly generated strings, but include one constant element. |
| 09:23:05 | pixelma | S_a_i_n_t: is there something in the manual about that? |
| 09:23:23 | S_a_i_n_t | not that I found. |
| 09:23:32 | S_a_i_n_t | I may have missed it though. |
| 09:23:42 | chrissavery | pixelma: I'm really not sure. What I know is just from seeing some code while adding my stuff. |
| 09:25:01 | pixelma | well, IMO it would need to be checked... JdGordon committed it so should have checked ;\ |
| 09:27:23 | chrissavery | what determines if pf is build for a target? |
| 09:28:11 | wodz | pixelma: I posted synced patch to FS #11189. When You will have time give it a try. As pointed out in comment final patch will be reworked to preserve files history. |
| 09:28:14 | pixelma | pictureflow itself is built for all targets with bitmap displays (so everything but teh Archos Player) |
| 09:28:54 | pixelma | wodz: I'll have a look if I don't forget :) |
| 09:29:00 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: Yeah, I didn't think I missed it, it says that "disktidy.config" is user modifiable, and it definitely is but it doesn't mention anything about partial/full matching. From what I can see it is only able to match full filenames, but I'm hardly a coder. |
| 09:29:28 | S_a_i_n_t | If it *could* match partial filenames, or there is some way I could achieve this...it'd be great. |
| 09:29:32 | pixelma | S_a_i_n_t: is there something in the wiki? |
| 09:31:23 | wodz | Can You remember the page where is the list of who owns which targets? |
| 09:31:43 | pixelma | RockboxTesting in the wiki if I remember correctl |
| 09:31:45 | pixelma | yy |
| 09:32:13 | chrissavery | so HAVE_PICTUREFLOW = (HAVE_LCD_BITMAP && HAVE_TAGCACHE) |
| 09:32:14 | JdGordon | speaking of which... |
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| 09:32:28 | JdGordon | does the h300 charge poperly from usb? |
| 09:32:34 | JdGordon | I tihnk i'll give up on the ac charger |
| 09:33:07 | S_a_i_n_t | Hmmm, there was something I missed perhaps, but I'm not sure if I'm parsing it correctly: "Directories are marked with a trailing / and * can be used at the end of the name (e.g .Trash-*/)" |
| 09:33:18 | S_a_i_n_t | does the * suggest partial matching? |
| 09:33:55 | wodz | JdGordon: do You still have recorder v1? |
| 09:35:38 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 09:37:01 | wodz | can You test patch from FS #11189? |
| 09:37:47 | JdGordon | not right now... |
| 09:37:55 | JdGordon | brb |
| 09:38:04 | JdGordon | might want to try one of the others for that patch |
| 09:38:31 | wodz | ? |
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| 09:43:04 | S_a_i_n_t | I want disktidy to match on "AlbumArt(randomlygeneratedstring).jpg" "AlbumArt_Large.jpg" and "AlbumArt_Small.jpg", I can't gather from http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/PluginDiskTidy whether or not "AlbumArt*.jpg" would work or not and don't have a DAP to test on presently. :/ |
| 09:43:43 | S_a_i_n_t | I seem to believe that the wiki is suggesting that "*" is only for matching partil dir names? |
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| 09:47:40 | JdGordon | amiconn: are non rechargable batteries safe in the ajbr if I dont plug it into ac? |
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| 09:51:29 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r26714): Theme Editor: Working on the project viewer infrastructure |
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| 10:11:49 | JdGordon | is there a better way to do this? http://pastebin.com/RVw6NFMf |
| 10:12:10 | JdGordon | without changing to use callbacks for those options instead of the preproccesor to figure it out |
| 10:12:17 | kugel | pictureflow is in the main menu? |
| 10:12:58 | JdGordon | no |
| 10:13:04 | kugel | chrissavery: I think it depends on the size of the plugin buffer whether pictureflow grabs the audio buffer |
| 10:13:05 | JdGordon | it is a start screen possibility |
| 10:13:20 | kugel | eh |
| 10:13:38 | kugel | JdGordon: don't we have that via autorock.rock already? |
| 10:13:48 | JdGordon | no |
| 10:14:44 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26715): reclaim most of the delta from the pictureflow commit |
| 10:14:59 | kugel | I think it should be more general; the ability to start any plugin at boot (which is what autorock does, but it's not configurable and #ifdef'ed out of the standard build I think) |
| 10:15:20 | JdGordon | which makes it.... totally not helpful here! |
| 10:15:36 | kugel | HAVE_PICTUREFLOW in the core is *really* nasty IMO |
| 10:15:46 | JdGordon | not at all |
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| 10:23:44 | chrissavery | kugel: I tend to agree. It would be better if there were an apps place to define it dependent on LCD_BITMAP and TAGCACHE. I've added code now to chk HAVE_PICTUREFLOW but I think it's better if the master define is not in firmware. Or, should the check just be (HAVE_LCD_BITMAP && HAVE_TAGCACHE) everywhere - which is also a bit ugly. |
| 10:25:36 | chrissavery | JdGordon: ya, I saw that nasty bit of defines and wasn't going to mess with it. I sure think there must be a better way. |
| 10:28:05 | gevaerts | chrissavery: *don't* just check for (HAVE_LCD_BITMAP && HAVE_TAGCACHE). People might disable pictureflow for other reasons on the future |
| 10:28:14 | chrissavery | is there no config.h at the apps level? |
| 10:28:20 | gevaerts | It's not just ugly, it's potentially wrong |
| 10:29:04 | * | gevaerts thinks that config.h, while being in firmware/, isn't really firmware code in the same sense as the rest of firmware/ |
| 10:29:11 | chrissavery | how will they disable pictueflow? wouldn't they just mod the master define line to undefine it? |
| 10:29:36 | gevaerts | yes, but HAVE_LCD_BITMAP and HAVE_TAGCACHE would still be there |
| 10:30:03 | gevaerts | I think what's currently there is the best compromise |
| 10:30:18 | gevaerts | Unless you just define HAVE_PICTUREFLOW for each target individually |
| 10:30:20 | JdGordon | disabling it manually isnt a problem |
| 10:30:37 | JdGordon | worst case is they try to load it and get file not found |
| 10:31:05 | gevaerts | Yes, which is why a single specific define is best |
| 10:31:43 | chrissavery | I'm not sure what's there now - JdGordon did some update. But I was working on changing all the relevant HAVE_TAGCACHE to HAVE_PICTUREFLOW and then defining that as combo of HAVE_TAGCACHE and HAVE_LCD_BITMAP. Anyone who doesn't want pictureflow could always undefine it there. |
| 10:32:38 | JdGordon | I would be happy to change the #define I added to HAVE_PICTUREFLOW_INTEGRATION even though it is wordy.. but otherwsie I see no real problem with the define as I added it |
| 10:33:06 | gevaerts | JdGordon: that might be slightly better, but I think the current one is fine |
| 10:33:13 | chrissavery | how did you add it? |
| 10:33:21 | chrissavery | just HAVE_PICTUREFLOW |
| 10:33:47 | JdGordon | in config.h which is the global config file |
| 10:33:58 | gevaerts | If it remains as HAVE_PICTUREFLOW, maybe it should also be used in apps/plugins/SUBDIRS and apps/plugins/SOURCES? |
| 10:34:02 | chrissavery | I'm sorry. I thought you wanted me to work on that so I went and did the same here. |
| 10:34:11 | JdGordon | I got impatient :p |
| 10:34:28 | chrissavery | I was just compiling with a few tagets to make sure it worked. |
| 10:34:40 | chrissavery | oh well. so I'll just drop it here. |
| 10:35:23 | * | gevaerts votes for HAVE_PICTUREFLOW_INTEGRATION |
| 10:35:42 | chrissavery | there are a few additional places where it should be used in addition to where HAVE_TAGCACHE was used. |
| 10:35:54 | Stummi | where are the regions for the radio defined? I cannot find it |
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| 10:51:31 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26716): rename HAVE_PICTUREFLOW to HAVE_PICTUREFLOW_INTEGRATION to make it more clear what it is needed for |
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| 10:59:10 | chrissavery | JdGordon: here is a couple more spots it should be added, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=DXuxp58a (but note I didn't update to HAVE_PICTUREFLOW_INTEGRATION) |
| 10:59:27 | chrissavery | these two spots control whether pictureflow is added to menus. |
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| 11:00:40 | JdGordon | thanks |
| 11:00:44 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26717): a few more HAVE_PICTUREFLOW_INTEGRATION |
| 11:04:44 | JdGordon | seen as I havnt heard any more problems with the skin changes I'm going to do one more potentially nasty change... FS #11133... changes the draw order so tags are drawn when they are hit in the skin instead of in batches at the end of viewports |
| 11:05:04 | JdGordon | I'm just cleaning it up and doing final tests, but more testers is allways wanted |
| 11:05:37 | S_a_i_n_t | I've been thinking about that...and I'm not sure I like it without a way to turn it on/off |
| 11:05:44 | S_a_i_n_t | just my two cents. |
| 11:05:55 | S_a_i_n_t | it could mess up existing themes pretty bad. |
| 11:06:24 | S_a_i_n_t | unless I don;t understand it properly... |
| 11:07:14 | JdGordon | which is why it is happening now |
| 11:07:26 | JdGordon | it shouldnt mess anything up unless the theme was written purposly to do that |
| 11:07:31 | JdGordon | in which case it should be fine anywya |
| 11:08:13 | S_a_i_n_t | would a way to turn it on/off be too hard to add? it may not be wanted... |
| 11:08:44 | S_a_i_n_t | I could see it's benefit, but I also kinda like it all being drawn in one lump. |
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| 11:13:42 | JdGordon | it wont be possible |
| 11:15:11 | JdGordon | I either change it now when themes need to be updated anyway, or some time in the future when I integrate the new parser |
| 11:15:32 | JdGordon | that involves a massive rework which will affect the displayer anyway |
| 11:16:22 | S_a_i_n_t | Hmmm. I'm quietly pessimistic. I think quite a few themes abuse the way things are drawn currently, and may have bitmaps that are supposed to hide certain things getting drawn first, instead of after, and not hiding the things they're supposed to. In which case, the theme updater just can't fix it by itself, as it can't anticipate that. |
| 11:16:57 | JdGordon | it shouldnt mess anything up unless the theme was written purposly to do that |
| 11:17:02 | S_a_i_n_t | I could be misunderstanding it, but I'm pretty sure I have themes that abuse the draw order myself, I assume others do too. |
| 11:17:22 | chrissavery | all: Just a note for anyone using PictureFlow with new svn updates. You may want to delete old cache files in /.rockbox/rocks/demos/pictureflow directory. The new filenames are different and so old files are just wasted space. |
| 11:17:40 | JdGordon | S_a_i_n_t: give http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11133?getfile=21891 a try... |
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| 11:19:35 | S_a_i_n_t | I couldn't test it until tomorrow...and I doubt you'll want to wait that long :/ Even if I could build a sim in my current location, I don't really trsut the sim to show up edge case things anymore. |
| 11:20:07 | S_a_i_n_t | I have no DAP here, and no client. So, just commit it I guess and I'll (and others) will have to adapt if necessary. |
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| 11:21:50 | JdGordon | hehe chrissavery, found a fun bug with PF |
| 11:22:23 | chrissavery | really? |
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| 11:22:43 | chrissavery | I'm getting out the Raid... |
| 11:23:03 | JdGordon | with follow playlist on, start an albume from PF, then press stop in the wps |
| 11:23:21 | JdGordon | it will send you back to PF which is expected, but then try quitting pf |
| 11:23:29 | chrissavery | I thought I tested that last night. |
| 11:23:43 | JdGordon | it tries to restart playback whic is wrong |
| 11:23:50 | chrissavery | it won't let you? |
| 11:24:02 | JdGordon | it does start playback, but I dont want it to |
| 11:24:03 | chrissavery | oh. now that could be. |
| 11:25:29 | JdGordon | actually, i may not be using the latest pf |
| 11:26:15 | chrissavery | no, it does it for me too. probably need a special case when not playing it should not exit with GOTO_WPS b/c that triggers wps to start again. |
| 11:26:27 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 11:26:37 | chrissavery | or maybe going to wps shouldn't start playing anyway? |
| 11:26:52 | chrissavery | if stopped it should open paused? |
| 11:27:24 | JdGordon | its a bit tricky... if music is stopped it should go to previous, the problem is previous here is wps |
| 11:27:32 | chrissavery | but in other cases I think it always starts when you resume a stopped playlist. isn't that normal? like press > from root menu when stopped. |
| 11:28:00 | JdGordon | yes that is what is supposed to happen |
| 11:28:28 | chrissavery | but it seems weird here. maybe when playlist is stopped and your << exit it should goto menu. |
| 11:29:32 | chrissavery | now, just what does "follow playlist" do? b/c I couldn't see a difference with it on or off. |
| 11:29:46 | JdGordon | I think so,. excpt that will actually be not the expecte behaviour if pf was started form the plugin menu |
| 11:30:09 | JdGordon | when the WPS stops it will go to previous browser instead of previous screen (usually the menu) |
| 11:31:04 | chrissavery | I see with "follow playlist" off it works better. it exits on << when stopped. |
| 11:31:07 | JdGordon | chrissavery: does PF start music or does it let the WPS start it? |
| 11:31:50 | chrissavery | on << it should let wps start it. on >|| or select it starts it first before exiting to wps. IIRC. |
| 11:32:56 | chrissavery | also for me (on fuze and I don't where else) it only restarts a song if you use select, otherwise it just continues playing. |
| 11:35:27 | chrissavery | I see on exit from PF if it tries to go to itself (because previous) then I reset it to root. maybe that should be to plugins folder. I actually prefer root b/c I'm much more likely to want to go to db or files than some other plugin. |
| 11:36:20 | JdGordon | yeah probably |
| 11:37:59 | chrissavery | except if it entered PF as start screenup maybe root makes sense. |
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| 11:38:41 | JdGordon | oh, no that will be fine |
| 11:38:55 | JdGordon | it returns PLUGIN_OK if it doesnt want to restart right? |
| 11:39:23 | JdGordon | so change that to ROOT instead of PREVIOUS if music isnt playing in root_menu.c |
| 11:41:18 | JdGordon | fixed |
| 11:41:49 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26718): fix a fun infinite loop when follow playlist is on and you started playback from PF and stopped it inside the WPS |
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| 12:06:09 | JdGordon | Zagor: hey, there is a broken dependancy somewhere which is hitting -j builds occasionally... http://build.rockbox.org/shownewlog.cgi?rev=26718;type=archosplayer#prob3 is almost certainly that |
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| 12:07:38 | JdGordon | I just got it on a clean clipp build with maje -j4 bin.... filetypes.c and alarm_menu.c both comapling about missing LANG defines |
| 12:09:30 | JdGordon | lang/lang.h has been created so they shouldnt be failing |
| 12:11:15 | gevaerts | JdGordon: created before failing those files, or before make stopping? |
| 12:11:51 | JdGordon | umm.. its there when make exits |
| 12:12:08 | JdGordon | looking at the make.dep file it looks like lang.h isnt a direct dependancy of that file |
| 12:12:40 | JdGordon | sorry, yes it is |
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| 12:25:06 | pyro_maniac | bertrik: am i wrong to say that in MeizuM6Port wiki under DFU Procedure point 1 and 2 (GET_CPU) are the same? |
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| 12:40:55 | JdGordon | chrissavery1: have a look at FS #11387 |
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| 13:16:33 | topik | all this talk of meizu's is exciting. my m6sl longs for rockbox. |
| 13:17:16 | TheLemonMan | anyone here had experience with samsung dfu ? |
| 13:18:30 | FlynDice | Is it just me or are the irc logs not available via web at www.rockbox.org/irc/ ? |
| 13:18:51 | topik | not just you |
| 13:20:08 | * | FlynDice is completely out of touch now ;/ |
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| 13:28:45 | CIA-6 | New commit by uchida (r26719): text viewer: can select "move to prev/next page" or "move to top page/bottom page" when LEFT/RIGHT key is pressed (narrow mode). |
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| 13:32:42 | markun | TheLemonMan: I have used the samsung DFU tool if that's what you are talking about |
| 13:33:19 | TheLemonMan | markun, i mean the protocol and shiz like this |
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| 13:36:35 | funman | FlynDice: you can browse http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20100609 and go to previous days with the top bar |
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| 13:38:19 | FlynDice | funman: Thanks! |
| 13:38:42 | funman | FlynDice: btw, i think the problems with µSD on as3525v2 should be fixed now |
| 13:39:07 | funman | according to the specs we're not doing things correctly though :/ |
| 13:39:47 | FlynDice | funman: as I said above I am completely out of touch right now trying to crawl back in.. What are we not doing correctly? |
| 13:40:15 | funman | according to Figure 4.3 , we should check if the card is busy *after* sending STOP_TRANSMISSION |
| 13:41:09 | funman | Also, STOP_TRANSMISSION is optional, because the card should leave DATA or RCV state when "transfer end" / "operation complete" |
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| 13:41:37 | funman | STOP_TRANSMISSION only forces the current transfer to abort (but we know the transfer is already finished because the DMA engine told us so) |
| 13:42:16 | funman | at least the code is similar in sd-as3525 and sd-as3525v2 : we check if the card is busy after DMA has finished the current transfer and before sending STOP_TRANSMISSION |
| 13:43:32 | FlynDice | funman: I'm looking right now but I thought it said you needed to issue the STOP_TRANSMISSION after the transfer was done.. I've only got about 15 mins here but I'll look some today later |
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| 13:44:12 | funman | FlynDice: i thought this while reading page 29 of the pdf just below 4.3 figure |
| 13:47:17 | FlynDice | funman: hmm that's where I thought it was so pehaps I remembered wrong.. there was another place also lemmee see if I can find it |
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| 13:57:14 | funman | gevaerts: you told me the play button of the meizu-m6sp was tied to the reset pin of the CPU, or was it on the m6sl ? I'm a bit confused now between those two |
| 13:57:43 | gevaerts | funman: yes :) |
| 13:57:51 | gevaerts | I don't remember actually... |
| 13:58:47 | funman | no problem, i'll forgot about your answer and ask you again in some time ;) |
| 13:59:06 | gevaerts | excellent plan :) |
| 13:59:30 | gevaerts | FS #11388 looks like fun |
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| 14:01:04 | funman | and also points to some trouble someone might encounter when adding support for another filesystem : different forbidden characters in filenames |
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| 14:04:56 | FlynDice | funman: on pdf page 30 under • Block Read there seems to be a difference in the way that READ_SINGLE_BLOCK and READ_MULTIPLE_BLOCK are handled. The way I read that is that if you use READ_MULTIPLE_BLOCK you need to issue STOP_TRANSMISSION after the tranfer is done. |
| 14:05:30 | FlynDice | funman: I can't find that in the writes section though |
| 14:06:42 | funman | hm ok |
| 14:06:42 | funman | perhaps we could issue only 1 WRITE or READ command per loop |
| 14:06:51 | funman | anyway let's wait a bit before touching that code again to be sure it works fine as-is ;) |
| 14:07:24 | FlynDice | I tried removing the STOP_TRANSMISSION cmd at one point and transfers failed... |
| 14:08:27 | CIA-6 | New commit by teru (r26720): keyboard: clean up. remove unneeded #ifdefs. |
| 14:09:07 | funman | same for me |
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| 14:19:40 | funman | what's the slowest ARM cpu we have: PP ? |
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| 14:20:55 | Bagder | yes, I think so |
| 14:28:37 | wodz | There was a trick to build individual plugins separately. Can someone recall this? |
| 14:29:37 | gevaerts | wodz: make <full path to plugin>.rock |
| 14:30:15 | funman | i use $PWD/apps/plugins/x.rock to avoid typing the path |
| 14:30:53 | wodz | thx |
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| 14:34:57 | funman | FS #11335 gives decode speed difference between 0.03% and 0.85% (both slower/faster) |
| 14:35:44 | funman | i'm not sure if it's worth adding a macro to have different returns when building with thumb or not |
| 14:37:28 | Torne | do you mean in general, or only on armv4t? |
| 14:38:37 | Torne | i would generally think it's useful to have ARMv5+ processors pop directly into PC, yes |
| 14:38:47 | funman | why? |
| 14:39:03 | funman | that only makes the code 32bits smaller |
| 14:39:10 | Torne | neater, smaller, faster in some cases i think |
| 14:39:26 | funman | not faster on armv5/armv6 |
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| 14:39:51 | Torne | maybe not in terms of pipeline, no |
| 14:39:54 | Torne | but there is an icache cost, etc |
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| 14:40:17 | funman | yes, i think this explains the slower decoding |
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| 14:40:45 | Torne | also, it just seems unpleasant to univerally include it when it's only needed for the very oldest processors, which are not really being used in new devices |
| 14:40:48 | q_ | hi, why is the wiki-viewer not in the standard compiles? |
| 14:41:10 | Torne | i don't htink it's a question of "building with thumb or not", is my point, anyway |
| 14:41:27 | Torne | if thumb can be made to work it's likely that using it for at least some things will be desirable on a lot of targets |
| 14:41:41 | Torne | so it's not unreasonable to assume that it will be used everywhere |
| 14:41:53 | Llorean | q_: There may be discussion of why on the flyspray task. |
| 14:42:02 | q_ | ah ok thx |
| 14:42:03 | gevaerts | q_: the comments on the task explain that pretty well if I remember correctly |
| 14:42:20 | wodz | does cube.rock use greylib? |
| 14:42:27 | gevaerts | yes |
| 14:42:37 | funman | Torne: if we make a macro which gives 'ldm' or 'ldm+bx' based on ARM_ARCH == 4, we could as well do it with ARM_ARCH == 4 && ROCKBOX_USE_THUMB |
| 14:42:58 | Torne | funman: yes, that bit is free |
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| 14:43:25 | Torne | funman: something like POPRET(r3,r4,r5) ? |
| 14:43:35 | funman | yeah sounds good |
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| 14:43:59 | Torne | which either adds pc to the list, or adds lr and then a bx instruction |
| 14:44:03 | funman | btw do you know a linker which is not gnu ld, but is compatible with gnu ld linker scripts ? (RVCT use its own "scatter files") |
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| 14:44:58 | funman | i think the gnu ld bug i showed you at devcon happens when arm->thumb switch is mixed with long calls |
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| 14:45:28 | funman | but after a workaround binary still doesn't boot on PP :/ |
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| 14:49:55 | q_ | hey there are way to many comments in the flyspray patch.... I'm in 2008 now, but still haven't read a 3rd of it (and still didnt find the explanation) |
| 14:50:47 | wodz | amiconn: I tested Your patch to greylib and it gives when unboosted (45MHz) CPUload 70% -> 63% greyscale 1/1: 31.3 fps -> 38.6 fps |
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| 14:51:40 | wodz | amiconn: boosted (124MHz) CPUload 52% -> 47% greyscale 1/1: 137.5 fps -> 152.0 fps |
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| 14:52:29 | wodz | amiconn: cube looks ok so this optimization is worth commiting |
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| 14:57:34 | kugel | Torne: why uglify assembly even more? :( |
| 14:58:06 | CIA-6 | New commit by teru (r26721): simplify parse_list. don't search for terminating separator or parenthesis when '-' is set. ... |
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| 15:00:01 | q_ | pfew, finally found the part with the discussion |
| 15:00:13 | q_ | and it sounds like it could be in th enext build :) |
| 15:00:59 | Torne | kugel: asm is ugly? :) |
| 15:01:06 | funman | gevaerts: did you check at which address the code is executed on meizu m6sl dfu ? |
| 15:01:18 | Torne | kugel: seriously, though, it seems wasteful to generate unneccecary instructions just because one cpu we support is dumb |
| 15:01:54 | kugel | I think one extra instruction which doesn't even affect speed in most cases isn't wasteful |
| 15:03:08 | Torne | I think assuming it doesn't affect speed just because the chart says so is silly, though |
| 15:03:16 | Torne | it still affects icache hit rate |
| 15:03:27 | Torne | in a hypothetical perfect memory system it might be the same speed :) |
| 15:04:47 | funman | i can't explain the speed up though |
| 15:07:32 | mc2739 | JdGordon: are you aware of problems with the %Vp tag? |
| 15:07:41 | JdGordon | no |
| 15:07:49 | Torne | kugel: and i really don't think it's that ugly. |
| 15:08:03 | Torne | kugel: macroing asm instructions goes with the territory |
| 15:10:43 | mc2739 | JdGordon: this %Vp|1|%s%Tn|| converts to this %Vp(1,%%s%%Tn,) |
| 15:10:58 | mc2739 | note doubled % |
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| 15:12:05 | JdGordon | hehe nice |
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| 15:13:10 | gevaerts | funman: I'm pretty sure it's the RAM address, but I can be wrong |
| 15:14:05 | funman | i'll use the working revision to check it, i can't see a difference between the working binary (r11826) and the not working one (svn) |
| 15:24:09 | wodz | amiconn: see http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/LcdFrameRate for full log |
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| 15:30:14 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26722): fix %Vp updating... |
| 15:30:17 | JdGordon | mc2739: fixed |
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| 15:46:56 | teru | JdGordon: i'm looking at skin_parser.c. i think the check whether it is in conditional or not in parse_progressbar (line near 1300) can be removed now, right? |
| 15:47:19 | JdGordon | probably not.. let me check |
| 15:48:06 | JdGordon | which line? I dont see it |
| 15:48:25 | JdGordon | because im blind... |
| 15:48:43 | JdGordon | yes, should be removable |
| 15:49:14 | JdGordon | teru: I'm planning on dumping the entire engine(or at least skin_parser.c) soon... so im not spending much time in there |
| 15:49:21 | JdGordon | but yes, feel free to remove that |
| 15:49:35 | TheLemonMan | Samsung YP-Q2 firmware has been cracked as of now! |
| 15:50:00 | mc2739 | JdGordon: thanks - looks good now |
| 15:50:14 | JdGordon | mc2739: care to try a possibly breaking patch |
| 15:50:15 | JdGordon | ? |
| 15:50:39 | JdGordon | 11133 |
| 15:50:47 | JdGordon | hopefully you wont notice any change |
| 15:50:51 | mc2739 | sure |
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| 16:01:17 | mc2739 | Zagor: have you seen the Build client stats theming problem - http://build.rockbox.org/data/26721-clients.html |
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| 16:02:08 | Zagor | mc2739: oh. thanks. |
| 16:06:44 | CIA-6 | New commit by teru (r26723): some clean up. add checks for terminating ')'. |
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| 16:10:43 | mc2739 | JdGordon: testing with FS #11133 and everything looks pretty good. I am seeing a little bit slower response on the playback icon change, but that is the very last line in my sbs file. I guess that rearranging the file would improve that. |
| 16:10:57 | wodz | I narrowed down increased power consumption of HD200 to be usb_init() function :-) Now I have figure out what's wrong with it |
| 16:11:49 | JdGordon | mc2739: thats odd... I wouldnt have expected any speed difference |
| 16:14:45 | Zagor | aha, it's all bagder's fault |
| 16:17:42 | S_a_i_n_t | there'll be quite a visable difference in theme loading if I'm right, with some themes worse than others. if tags are drawn when they're git then there'll be a visable difference between the first and last object drawn as themes currently are not optimised for this, rather than the now when things are all drawn in a lump at the end of parsing. |
| 16:17:53 | S_a_i_n_t | s/git/hit/ |
| 16:18:13 | S_a_i_n_t | some rearranging of the theme could prevent the worst of it though. |
| 16:18:30 | mc2739 | JdGordon: it looks like it is only the fm-play/fm-mute icon |
| 16:19:12 | JdGordon | show me the skin? |
| 16:19:52 | CIA-6 | New commit by zagor (r26724): Put back the www.rockbox.org prefix so build.rockbox.org works again. |
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| 16:21:54 | mc2739 | JdGordon: http://www.datafilehost.com/download-76cadd0f.html |
| 16:23:22 | JdGordon | are they in the fms or sbs? |
| 16:25:09 | S_a_i_n_t | .sbs |
| 16:25:40 | S_a_i_n_t | it's a pretty poorly laid out theme...which is what I worry about with this way of drawing things. |
| 16:25:58 | S_a_i_n_t | themes designed for it would be cool in theory, but none are yet. |
| 16:26:28 | S_a_i_n_t | by poorly laid out I mean the code, I haven't actually seen it in action. |
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| 16:26:33 | mc2739 | JdGordon: sbs - line 192 |
| 16:28:50 | JdGordon | well nothing obviously looks bad |
| 16:28:55 | JdGordon | how noticable is it? |
| 16:29:02 | chrissavery1 | JdGordon: FS #11387 most likely caused by #6 - audio dropouts patch. This made a big improvement on Fuze. I expect there is a difference in lcd buffer type that causes crappy Nano2G behaviour. |
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| 16:29:30 | JdGordon | ok |
| 16:31:14 | S_a_i_n_t | chrissavery: "crappy Nano2G behaviour"? |
| 16:31:45 | * | S_a_i_n_t hasn't really noticed anything different between the Nano1 and 2G |
| 16:32:17 | chrissavery | according to FS #11387 PF should be jerky on Nano2G. |
| 16:33:00 | mc2739 | JdGordon: it is noticeable - like the playback icon when pause on fade/stop is enabled |
| 16:33:03 | * | S_a_i_n_t wonders why that theme shows AA conditional to hold, but true in both cases: .sbs line 96 "%?mh<%Cd|%Cd>" |
| 16:33:12 | chrissavery | try scolling PF while music playing. |
| 16:33:14 | S_a_i_n_t | that's just....odd. and unnecessary. |
| 16:33:23 | S_a_i_n_t | there are a few silly bits like that. |
| 16:34:12 | JdGordon | bieber: ping |
| 16:34:25 | S_a_i_n_t | also line 94 |
| 16:34:42 | mc2739 | JdGordon: looks like albumart in the sbs has a problem also - not sure if it is this patch |
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| 16:34:52 | S_a_i_n_t | mc2739: Have you noticed that? you could *really* trim the fat out of this theme |
| 16:35:21 | S_a_i_n_t | mc2739: see above: it's a double positive conditional? |
| 16:35:36 | JdGordon | that wont really affect performance thoguh |
| 16:36:02 | mc2739 | S_a_i_n_t: it isn't my theme, I was just using it for testing |
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| 16:37:13 | S_a_i_n_t | mc2739: I know it's not your theme, just wondering if all the sillness with irrelevant conditionals (I spot at least 3) would speed things up. |
| 16:38:28 | JdGordon | actually yeah it could |
| 16:38:51 | JdGordon | it clears each image area on the false sides |
| 16:39:04 | JdGordon | umm... |
| 16:39:08 | JdGordon | no, ignore me |
| 16:39:19 | S_a_i_n_t | well, the total load time would be the same...but since stuff is being drawn as it's hit, it would appear that it takes longer. |
| 16:39:45 | S_a_i_n_t | as you'd see the first tags...parsing, more tags...parsing, last tags. |
| 16:40:04 | S_a_i_n_t | s/would/*should*/ |
| 16:41:26 | CIA-6 | New commit by teru (r26725): text viewer: don't load font if it is the same font currently used. |
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| 16:42:34 | S_a_i_n_t | line 146 in that theme could go completely and not be missed at all... (sbs) |
| 16:42:52 | S_a_i_n_t | this is the "edge case" I was thinking about, weird code. |
| 16:43:10 | mc2739 | JdGordon: FS# |
| 16:43:45 | mc2739 | JdGordon: FS #11133 is causing the issue with albumart in sbs |
| 16:44:09 | S_a_i_n_t | in the same theme? |
| 16:44:28 | mc2739 | yes |
| 16:44:52 | S_a_i_n_t | it's *very* messy...could you try say..."cabbiev2"? |
| 16:45:28 | S_a_i_n_t | there are *quite* a fer things in that sbs/wps that are only clutter, more stuff to parse, more time to load stuff |
| 16:45:34 | S_a_i_n_t | *few |
| 16:45:43 | mc2739 | well, for this issue, that would not help |
| 16:46:26 | S_a_i_n_t | what? clutter or cabbie? (I lost you...) |
| 16:47:42 | S_a_i_n_t | this theme assumes that every little bit needs to be a viewport. simple "blank space" ( you can find it commented) gets its own viewport. |
| 16:47:44 | mc2739 | S_a_i_n_t: I'm talking about albumart in the sbs |
| 16:48:50 | S_a_i_n_t | it shouldn't be specific to the .sbs though. if it is, I can't think of a reason. |
| 16:49:24 | S_a_i_n_t | other than this particular .sbs and its pretty major coding flaws. |
| 16:49:31 | Zagor | JdGordon: that dependency issue is strange |
| 16:49:40 | JdGordon | and annoying :p |
| 16:50:26 | mc2739 | S_a_i_n_t: if it is really such a problem for you, why don't you fix it up, or let the author know what is wrong so he can fix it up |
| 16:50:40 | Zagor | it's not a straight dependency issue either. lang.h has been created, otherwise the compiler would barf with "missing file". for some reason it just doesn't contain all the lang defines (yet?) |
| 16:50:53 | S_a_i_n_t | I'm wondering if this is the sole issue, is it the only theme you've tested? |
| 16:51:00 | S_a_i_n_t | that's all I want to know really... |
| 16:51:32 | Zagor | we're drifting into cache coherency debugging, which is nasty territory |
| 16:51:40 | S_a_i_n_t | if it happens with all .sbs with aa, sweet...if not, start commenting lines, if I could test right now, I would. |
| 16:51:53 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26726): fix %C, and the viewport colour tags so they parse |
| 16:51:58 | Zagor | especially since it only happens in 1/100 compiles... |
| 16:52:42 | JdGordon | if it happens on my desktop it will keep happening untill I do a make with no -j |
| 16:52:52 | JdGordon | even after a make clean |
| 16:53:43 | Zagor | if/when you get that, please copy away lang.h so I can get a look |
| 16:54:01 | JdGordon | ok |
| 16:54:07 | Zagor | "even after make clean" sounds really spooky |
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| 16:55:22 | gevaerts | IIRC lang.h is incomplete in those cases |
| 16:55:53 | TheLemonMan | nandboot.sb is the nandloader right ? |
| 16:57:13 | mc2739 | S_a_i_n_t: I'm not going to troubleshoot a theme that I don't regularly use. I'm just testing a patch for JdGordon and noting differences I am seeing with various themes. If themes break with this patch, that is good to know so that theme authors can be told about the breakage. |
| 16:58:01 | * | S_a_i_n_t gives up.. |
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| 17:11:48 | JdGordon | if domonoky comes online (and irc logs stay down) can somene let him know that yes the skin updater should be fininshed and fully working now? |
| 17:17:23 | JdGordon | mc2739: is there an error on line 54 of the sbs? |
| 17:18:50 | mc2739 | that reminds me, I think I have a patch for updatetheme.pl |
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| 17:19:00 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon: You mean the "/"s? |
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| 17:19:10 | mc2739 | JdGordon: no, original is the same as converted |
| 17:19:24 | JdGordon | % at the end of the line |
| 17:20:00 | S_a_i_n_t | do "/"s not need any special treatment? |
| 17:20:04 | JdGordon | nope |
| 17:20:10 | S_a_i_n_t | good to know. |
| 17:20:17 | JdGordon | % at the end of the line is curious though... definetly broekn |
| 17:20:21 | JdGordon | all hail the new parser! |
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| 17:20:45 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon: With this theme...there's a big chance it was there beforehand. |
| 17:21:10 | S_a_i_n_t | I feel obligated to contact the author...how could I do so? |
| 17:22:52 | * | JdGordon really wishes he knew what he was going to do about the progressbar types soon |
| 17:23:10 | mc2739 | S_a_i_n_t: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=24894.0 has the forum names of original author and update author |
| 17:23:19 | S_a_i_n_t | in what way? tags, or "how to do it in general"? |
| 17:23:25 | JdGordon | tags |
| 17:23:45 | JdGordon | I want to allow fill type + slider type + both |
| 17:23:55 | S_a_i_n_t | +vertical? |
| 17:24:02 | JdGordon | and direction |
| 17:25:32 | JdGordon | %pd(type, fillimage, x, y, width, height, slider image, vert/horiz) ? |
| 17:25:48 | JdGordon | with pretty much all being optional except the type |
| 17:26:05 | JdGordon | type being "fill" "slider" "fill+slider" |
| 17:26:07 | S_a_i_n_t | pd(type, fillimage, x, y, width, height, slider image) ( vert/horiz) |
| 17:26:46 | S_a_i_n_t | also (filldirection) if possible |
| 17:27:28 | JdGordon | this is where named args would be very useful... %pb(type, x, y, w, h, fill_img=blaa.bmp, direction=left) |
| 17:29:30 | S_a_i_n_t | %pb(type, x, y, w, h, fill_img=blaa.bmp) (%l or %r) (%v or %h)? |
| 17:29:39 | S_a_i_n_t | Imagine that without the "or"s |
| 17:29:53 | JdGordon | no, that complicates things ALOT |
| 17:30:03 | S_a_i_n_t | ahhh...I see :/ |
| 17:30:11 | S_a_i_n_t | looks good though ;) |
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| 17:32:02 | JdGordon | I think I'd change it to %pb(x,y,w,h,...) where the ... would allow named args for type, fill_img, slide_img, direction, horiz |
| 17:32:31 | JdGordon | everything is optional... |
| 17:32:36 | JdGordon | how messy would that be to use? |
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| 17:35:37 | JdGordon | domonoky: hey, yeah the skin updater is ready... |
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| 17:36:12 | domonoky | good, unfortunatly i dont have the correct file access rights on the server :-/ |
| 17:36:15 | JdGordon | there is a possibility I change a few tags still though, but they should be simple to do manually, or... |
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| 17:36:22 | JdGordon | ok, so I have some time then :) |
| 17:36:53 | domonoky | i dont think you will do them manually on a few hundred themes.. |
| 17:37:16 | gevaerts | domonoky: is there currently a way on the theme site to get all reported themes? I managed to get them all by looking through all targets, but... |
| 17:37:22 | domonoky | unless you have too much time :-) |
| 17:37:54 | domonoky | gevaerts: there is a link to all themes on the frontpage, then you can filter for reported.. |
| 17:38:18 | gevaerts | Why did I miss that? |
| 17:40:03 | domonoky | because its hidden in plain sight.. :-) |
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| 17:40:45 | * | JdGordon doesnt like it when things are stupidy simple to implement |
| 17:42:28 | JdGordon | yeah, I am going to change the bar tag... |
| 17:44:06 | JdGordon | x,y,width,height,file |
| 17:44:18 | * | JdGordon adds a nice little feature to the parser |
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| 17:53:15 | JdGordon | bieber: ping ping ping :p |
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| 18:00:43 | kugel | gevaerts: it should be possible to make ROCKBOX_DIR a runtime variable (for sim/app only), so that most of io.c wouldn't be needed |
| 18:01:31 | kugel | but I think it would require showing the entire filesystem in the filebrowser which is apparently desired by some people anyway |
| 18:02:02 | gevaerts | Yes, and considered undesirable by others :) |
| 18:02:08 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 18:02:33 | JdGordon | −−root= and −−mount= options should be used |
| 18:02:57 | JdGordon | and a configuration file read at boot instead of command line args |
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| 18:08:53 | domonoky | JdGordon: file access rights are now changed, so i could upgrade the themes on the site, when you are ready. |
| 18:09:08 | JdGordon | just double checking this diff... |
| 18:09:37 | JdGordon | ah SHIT! wasnt working in a clean tree :'( |
| 18:10:13 | JdGordon | patch cleany undoes though so im ok :) |
| 18:15:06 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26727): SKIN BREAK: %pb, %bl and %pv (bar types) changed so the image is the last param instead of the first. skin updater, skins and manual all updated. ... |
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| 18:15:20 | JdGordon | domonoky: ok, go nuts :) |
| 18:15:29 | kugel | domonoky: don't :) |
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| 18:15:39 | * | domonoky goes breaking the themesite.. :-) |
| 18:15:39 | kugel | http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/apps/gui/skin_engine/skin_parser.c?r1=26727&r2=26726&pathrev=26727 |
| 18:16:21 | JdGordon | grr... missed it |
| 18:16:30 | JdGordon | kugel: dont you trust me? :D |
| 18:16:51 | kugel | not always :P |
| 18:17:19 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26728): crappy editor and crappy svn missing crappy merge crappy crappy 2am crappy |
| 18:17:20 | kugel | that was the first diff I clicked (and I notoriously look at every revision) |
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| 18:20:32 | kugel | domonoky: when will it be finished? |
| 18:21:33 | gevaerts | kugel: the problem with dynamic ROCKBOX_DIR is that it's usually used as a static string to be concatenated by the preprocessor |
| 18:22:16 | kugel | gevaerts: yes, ROCKBOX_DIR "/rocks" would need fixing, but the rest should work without changes |
| 18:22:33 | domonoky | kugel: dont know, i found abother problem.. i cant svn up on the server. |
| 18:22:53 | JdGordon | yeah so #define ROCKOBX_DIR "<>" or something and replace that on all file calls |
| 18:22:59 | JdGordon | slow but simple |
| 18:23:04 | gevaerts | What rest? From what I can see about all uses are like that |
| 18:24:04 | JdGordon | or #define a bunch of functions for it |
| 18:25:13 | funman | JdGordon: '<' is a valid filename |
| 18:25:33 | gevaerts | I actually think it should be split. It would be nice to have one directory for the normal install and one with settings and user-supplied add-ons |
| 18:25:42 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon: Double checking, my playbar line is now "%pb(-,-,-,-,Playbar.bmp)"? |
| 18:25:50 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 18:26:16 | JdGordon | gevaerts: have you seen the FS task for this? |
| 18:26:30 | JdGordon | quite a bit of opposition to that idea |
| 18:26:48 | gevaerts | JdGordon: I'm speaking in the RaaA context |
| 18:26:54 | gevaerts | and no, I don't think I've seen it |
| 18:27:43 | JdGordon | FS #7657 |
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| 18:30:37 | gevaerts | JdGordon: I mainly see a lot of arguing about details there :) |
| 18:31:41 | gevaerts | Anyway, the reason I think it's desirable is that on most OSes these days (and at least one phone OS, I don't know the others) a user typically can't even write to standard software installation directories |
| 18:32:03 | gevaerts | That means that either RaaA will seriously deviate from that model, or we need split directories |
| 18:32:15 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 18:32:39 | gevaerts | I don't particularly want that on a DAP |
| 18:32:58 | JdGordon | in the sim it would be handy |
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| 18:33:40 | kugel | the sim should continue simulating how it's layed out on target |
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| 18:33:47 | gevaerts | Yes, but in the sim you hit that nice "It should be as close as possible to the real target" issue :) |
| 18:34:00 | kugel | I don't see how it would be nice on the sim |
| 18:34:41 | gevaerts | easier to keep your config |
| 18:35:03 | kugel | that's all, isn't it? |
| 18:35:16 | kugel | the rest is target dependant |
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| 18:58:49 | mhe | if i install rockbox on my nano 1st gen, will the original firmware be overwritten? |
| 18:59:03 | mhe | or can i easily revert, or how does that work |
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| 19:00:06 | mc2739 | mhe: Rockbox allows you to dual boot |
| 19:00:14 | funman | check the manual, it is explained |
| 19:00:17 | mhe | oh |
| 19:00:46 | radagast1 | don't forget - rockbox...erm...rocks! :D |
| 19:00:54 | mhe | :) |
| 19:01:20 | mhe | i heard someone say it had a feature to resume audio books or long audio files, that got me interested |
| 19:01:48 | mhe | real pain in the ass to fastforward several hours, if you even remember where you were |
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| 19:10:46 | domonoky | JdGordon: i have now run the conversion on the themesite.. but now many many themes fail all checkwps... will now update checkwps and run it again :-) |
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| 19:14:01 | q_ | has there ever been the Idea to make a simplified, grafical main-menue? Big buttons and stuff? |
| 19:14:25 | Bagder | probably |
| 19:15:56 | q_ | and seperate touchscreen-modes for menue and now-playing screens? |
| 19:16:24 | q_ | I usually use my fingers, which works for touch-themes, but not for the menue |
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| 19:28:39 | domonoky | themesite conversion is now finished.. please report all missing/not-converted/broken themes |
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| 19:34:32 | q_ | domonoky: jBox and jBox_white are missing (checking just the D2 skins) |
| 19:35:20 | q_ | will the rockbox util get the new skins now? |
| 19:36:20 | Stephen__ | did anyone ever download jbox_white, coz i did and it was just jbox no white at all! |
| 19:36:26 | domonoky | no, it will still get the old ones i think. |
| 19:36:32 | domonoky | we need a new rbutil release for that. |
| 19:36:38 | saratoga | funman: is the reason theres no hotkey on the clip+ due to a lack of buttons? |
| 19:36:52 | q_ | Stephen__, i did not :) |
| 19:39:26 | Stephen__ | check it on the old site |
| 19:39:33 | q_ | how comes the coverflow sorts the tracks different to everything else? seems to be the only one sorting by tags *and* reading numbers instead of digits |
| 19:39:36 | domonoky | hm, jBox fails checkwps with: "Invalid parameter list for token 2" The line is: %X(jBox_bg.bmp) |
| 19:39:37 | Stephen__ | i wanted to change it for h3xx but it was black |
| 19:39:56 | domonoky | JdGordon: whats wrong with that ?`and i blame the skinupdater :-) |
| 19:41:38 | q_ | ah and how comes there are skins which refuse to change the menue text or display icons? (the FSM skin) |
| 19:42:37 | domonoky | JdGordon: according to the SkinBreakChange wiki that should be correct, but checkwps fails ? |
| 19:42:37 | bieber | JdGordon: Here |
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| 19:43:09 | bluebroth3r | domonoky: have you pushed the rbutilqt.php changes to the new theme site? |
| 19:43:10 | domonoky | q_: they probably just dont contain the neccessary thing to theme that ? |
| 19:43:22 | domonoky | ah, thats missing. |
| 19:43:41 | q_ | ok |
| 19:44:01 | domonoky | bluebroth3r: it seems i already done that :-) |
| 19:44:08 | mhe | if i bookmark a file, all i should need to do to resume is go to the bookmarks and clicking resume, right? |
| 19:44:09 | bluebroth3r | nice :) |
| 19:44:16 | gevaerts | Can one still access the old-format themes? |
| 19:44:58 | bluebroth3r | gevaerts: yes: http://themes.rockbox.org/oldsite/www/ |
| 19:45:19 | funman | saratoga: i don't know about the clip keymap |
| 19:45:22 | CIA-6 | New commit by Domonoky (r26729): allow uploading of screenshots with +-2pixel difference to the screensize, to allow screenshots from the clip simulator. |
| 19:45:31 | saratoga | i wonder if we could solve that and our hold problem by adding software hold to the hotkey list, and then making home a hotkey |
| 19:45:32 | gevaerts | bluebroth3r: ah, right |
| 19:45:42 | funman | saratoga: lack of hotkey just means nobody assigned one but i think it could be possible |
| 19:46:07 | funman | and add software hold to all targets? |
| 19:46:16 | domonoky | gevaerts: take again a close look to the links on the themepage :-) |
| 19:47:11 | gevaerts | domonoky: I can't hide a theme on the old site! |
| 19:47:26 | gevaerts | Warning: rename(/home/themes/www/oldsite/www/themes/176x220/arboxwidgets_s_r35/arboxWidgets_S_r35.zip,../../../oldprivate/themes/176x220/arboxwidgets_s_r35/arboxWidgets_S_r35.zip) [function.rename]: Permission denied in /home/themes/oldprivate/themesite.class.php on line 452 |
| 19:47:59 | saratoga | funman: probably worth ifdef'ing software hold since its fairly useless on other targets |
| 19:48:17 | saratoga | and i think it takes some bin size as well |
| 19:48:22 | domonoky | oh, another permision problem. the webserver want to move the theme to the private dir, but cant :-) |
| 19:48:33 | funman | saratoga: there is HAVE_BUTTON_HOLD already i think |
| 19:48:36 | domonoky | But it dont think its need to admin the old site anymore. |
| 19:48:52 | funman | don't we have a keymap expert ? :'( |
| 19:48:55 | domonoky | its just so people can download the older themes till 3.7 is out. |
| 19:49:00 | gevaerts | it seems early to de-facto drop support for 3.6 themes |
| 19:49:18 | gevaerts | We want to encourage people to run a release after all |
| 19:49:36 | domonoky | gevaerts: we dont drop it really.. the older themes are still there. |
| 19:49:58 | domonoky | in a few days even rbutil will be able to install the old themes again.. |
| 19:50:00 | gevaerts | domonoky: we might not drop the themes, but we definitely drop support this way |
| 19:50:01 | saratoga | i'm still waiting on my clip+ to get here so i can try this out |
| 19:50:11 | gevaerts | Can one still upload new old-format themes? |
| 19:50:57 | domonoky | hm.. perhaps i should remove the release checkwps from the converted site, or else that would be possible. |
| 19:51:22 | gevaerts | Can they be uploaded to the copy? |
| 19:51:28 | domonoky | yes |
| 19:51:47 | bluebroth3r | Rockbox Utility _is_ able to handle old themes (or to be exact, new themes). The problem is just that this hasn't been released ;-) |
| 19:52:04 | gevaerts | ok. I think it's definitely a good idea to fix the permissions then :) |
| 19:52:06 | domonoky | gevaerts: or atleast it should work if we didnt forget some permissions or other small things. |
| 19:53:16 | gevaerts | Oh, and I think we should make the redirect text a bit bolder :) |
| 19:53:45 | * | gevaerts has no idea how many people use rbutil to install themes and how many download straight from the website |
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| 19:54:33 | domonoky | gevaerts: feel free to change the website, its in svn :-) |
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| 19:54:41 | bluebroth3r | someone with access to the webserver logs should be able to figure that. Rockbox Utility sends its own user agent string since a while |
| 19:54:56 | gevaerts | domonoky: sure, but I want to make sure people don't disagree too much about this first |
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| 20:07:29 | domonoky | gevaerts: permission problem should be fixed. |
| 20:08:10 | domonoky | i also removed the current checkwps binarys for the copy, so you can only upload old syntacs themes on the copy and only new ones on the main themesite. |
| 20:08:17 | funman | meizu m6sl makes me crazy |
| 20:08:36 | * | domonoky starts another checkwps run on the themesite copy... |
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| 20:13:37 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r26730): meizu m6sl: load code from IRAM, not FLASH (it eases debugging) |
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| 20:17:18 | bertrik | funman, s5l8700 i2c no longer worked for me after some nano 2g changes, you probably have to go back a few version if you want to experiment with stuff over i2c on the meizum6sl |
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| 20:18:02 | bertrik | funman, does display on the meizu m6sl work for you yet? |
| 20:18:10 | funman | just backlight for now |
| 20:18:22 | funman | who needs more ? :-) |
| 20:19:02 | funman | the m6sp is charging, i'll test if my yesterday commit on meizu_dfu works with it |
| 20:20:01 | kugel | gah, one of my themes is broken now! |
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| 20:23:49 | kugel | hm, Azure Whisper hasn't been converted |
| 20:23:58 | funman | lcd id seems to be 0x64 on m6sl |
| 20:24:22 | bertrik | do we have a driver for that (/me should probably look himself) |
| 20:24:29 | * | kugel is confused |
| 20:24:46 | funman | bertrik: lcd-m6sl.c has some code for I/O but not for LCD registers |
| 20:25:15 | funman | i am impressed by the number of documents we have for meizus |
| 20:25:35 | kugel | the .sbs parses OK even though it's also not converted |
| 20:25:41 | funman | in fact there are too much, i don't know what to read first ;) |
| 20:25:43 | kugel | JdGordon, domonoky: ^ |
| 20:26:35 | kugel | also; the git mirror isn't updating anymore |
| 20:27:48 | * | domonoky wonders why this theme wasnt converted.. |
| 20:28:08 | * | domonoky tries to convert it explizitly. |
| 20:28:30 | bertrik | funman, nice eh? I think I also have some samsung utility that sends a NAND util application in DFU mode, so you can identify and read blocks of NAND memory |
| 20:29:01 | funman | wouldn't it be easier to reuse the nano2g usb code? |
| 20:29:35 | kugel | domonoky: I have a suspicion |
| 20:29:43 | kugel | whitespace in the file name |
| 20:29:52 | kugel | diff is failing on it |
| 20:30:02 | bertrik | funman, yeah maybe, never tried that, I think the nano2g uses a s5l8701 which is slightly different though |
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| 20:30:41 | domonoky | oh failure in the updatetheme.pl |
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| 20:32:43 | bertrik | funman, I simplified the description of the recovery mode (DFU) quite a bit, does it still match your experience? |
| 20:32:43 | scorche|sh | bum bum bummmmmmmm |
| 20:33:17 | domonoky | can someone with perl knowledge try to fix updatetheme.pl for that ? |
| 20:33:55 | domonoky | kugel: the diff is not important, but the spaces cause mv to use the wrong path.. |
| 20:34:15 | funman | bertrik: not exactly: i only press M on the m6sl |
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| 20:35:31 | kugel | domonoky: still not correct after fixing mv |
| 20:35:44 | kugel | for some reason there's no new theme.zip |
| 20:35:46 | bertrik | hm, I'll try that on the m6sp too. I guess plugging USB also wakes up the player so POWER may not be needed that way |
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| 20:37:33 | kugel | domonoky: the problem is probably also that the .zip itself has a _ instead of a whitespace, unlike the files in the .zip |
| 20:37:39 | kugel | or another problem :) |
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| 20:38:17 | domonoky | yes, the themesite replaces those nasty characters... can please convert it your self and reupload ? :-) |
| 20:38:58 | kugel | domonoky: I will, I wanted to add a fms anyway |
| 20:39:48 | funman | PDAT1 &= ~(1<<3); doesn't trigger power-off on m6l |
| 20:39:50 | funman | +s |
| 20:42:44 | kugel | domonoky: it at least converted correctly |
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| 20:44:00 | kugel | when do we want to start to convert some targets to eabi builds? |
| 20:44:15 | kugel | the entire AMS line should be safe |
| 20:44:36 | funman | go go go |
| 20:44:58 | bertrik | I see no problem starting with those then :) |
| 20:45:11 | funman | also i want to add -Os to clipv1/c200v2/m200v4 but there are some warnings (i believe ranma fixed those already) |
| 20:45:20 | kugel | configure needs some changes to support different default compilers |
| 20:45:25 | bertrik | yeah, I saw a couple of those too |
| 20:46:08 | bertrik | -Os optimises for size, does this have impact on speed then? |
| 20:46:10 | * | kugel wonders if roolku has eabi gcc already |
| 20:46:49 | funman | bertrik: yes i posted results today i think |
| 20:47:00 | funman | it's a bit slower |
| 20:55:04 | bertrik | I guess for those targets, size is more important than speed |
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| 21:36:02 | bluebroth3r | grmbl |
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| 21:39:51 | notlistening | domonoky, did what i put on the bug make any sense as to the problem? |
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| 21:54:01 | domonoky | notlistening: yes, i expect it to mess up, till that synthOk/closeClient thing is fixed.. rbutil then wont wait long enough. |
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| 21:55:14 | domonoky | the last thing is strange.. i dont see from the code how it would only pick up every second wav format in the list. also the update thing should theoretically work.. |
| 21:56:41 | notlistening | domonoky, well I am just reporting what i see in the list and what rbutil is reporting in the debug screen seems to be every other entry try for yourself, all the work that needed changing my end has been done so i theory you should find it all works :D |
| 21:57:42 | domonoky | i will try it.. speakMe now responds only 294: CloseClient ? |
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| 22:00:12 | notlistening | domonoky, 201 synthOK |
| 22:00:25 | notlistening | domonoky, just keeping you on your toes :D |
| 22:00:32 | domonoky | :-) |
| 22:00:55 | domonoky | hm, the version thing surely doesnt work.. |
| 22:01:15 | notlistening | domonoky, the format list also returns quickly but does not properly test as I have discovered :( |
| 22:02:02 | notlistening | domonoky, work in progress ;) |
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| 22:02:43 | notlistening | domonoky, I think I will have to test on audio format from each set to see if the OS is capable of producing that format then build the list that way so 5 tests instead of 63 |
| 22:02:59 | domonoky | sounds better :-) |
| 22:06:21 | q_ | j #dott2 |
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| 22:06:27 | q_ | ups |
| 22:06:29 | q_ | sry |
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| 22:10:14 | bieber | Ack, debugging data models with Qt is agonizing |
| 22:11:36 | bieber | If I feed a view an invalid pointer somewhere, it just up and segfaults, the debugger dives somewhere into a disassembly of the view class, and none of my functions are in the stack trace, so I can't figure out where the bad pointer actually came from |
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| 22:26:06 | domonoky | JdGordon: your skinupdate also nicely fails for themes which already were converted :-) |
| 22:27:18 | wodz | domonoky: could I ask You to test FS #11189 on Your Archos? |
| 22:28:10 | domonoky | wodz: yes, but not today anymore.. please prod me again tomorrow :-) |
| 22:28:24 | wodz | I will try :-) |
| 22:28:53 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r26731): Theme Editor: Got project viewer displaying WPS files |
| 22:41:51 | pixelma | do I see correctly that teru also removed the cursor keys which give direct control of the input line on some targets that have enough keys for it? |
| 22:43:13 | pixelma | that was not my intention if that's the case - just the cursor keys only mode |
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| 22:45:18 | pixelma | maybe I'm misunderstanding though, unfortunately I don't understand enough |
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| 22:58:35 | bertrik | funman, FS #11385 talks about a amsv2 pitch/speed issue, any idea how the OF handles this? |
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| 23:37:17 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r26732): Theme Editor: Enabled loading project files from the project panel |
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| 23:49:17 | stimoceiver | hello |
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| 23:53:00 | funman | bertrik: handles what? |
| 23:53:57 | stimoceiver | whats the best, most affordable device, with at least one memory card slot, that is capable of running rockbox? |
| 23:54:07 | stimoceiver | *currently available |
| 23:54:40 | stimoceiver | im currently using on a sansa e200, but its getting a little rough around the edges |
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| 23:56:04 | Torne | clip+, maybe? |
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| 23:58:55 | funman | bertrik: i read your message, i don't know how the OF gets around this |
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