| 00:00:04 | TheSeven | kisak: we also have thumb on lowmem targets now |
| 00:00:14 | TheSeven | (IIUC) |
| 00:00:35 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Do you use the patched binutils? |
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| 00:05:54 | pixelma | Zagor: could you look up in the manuals build log what went wrong in the Iaudio manuals (they seem to be missing but work for me. I have some local changes though and would like to know if those might fix it or if there was/is something else going on) |
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| 00:06:34 | jhMikeS | amiconn: I haven't gotten to setting that stuff up yet. Isn't that for thumb? |
| 00:06:48 | amiconn | Ah yes it is |
| 00:07:18 | pixelma | (or Bagder) |
| 00:07:31 | Zagor | pixelma: I'm not sure what is an error and what is just a warning |
| 00:07:41 | Zagor | Overfull \hbox (2.41475pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 14−−21 |
| 00:08:03 | Zagor | ! Undefined control sequence. |
| 00:08:03 | pixelma | those are warnings, did compiling stop somewhere? |
| 00:08:19 | gevaerts | Undefined control sequence looks like an error |
| 00:08:22 | pixelma | Zagor: the latter sounds more like it |
| 00:08:25 | Zagor | <argument> \ActionKbdPageFlip |
| 00:08:36 | * | jhMikeS momentarily thought pixelma was insinuating Bagder was a thumb |
| 00:08:57 | pixelma | ah, ok. Got that in my local changes and wanted to commit anyway :) |
| 00:09:27 | pixelma | looking myself now what is wrong in the Player's manual, guess it's something similar too |
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| 00:14:01 | CIA-6 | New commit by Buschel (r26802): Build iPod Video with EABI toolchain. |
| 00:15:34 | CIA-6 | r26802 build result: All green |
| 00:17:53 | gevaerts | Buschel: you should also update the builds file I guess |
| 00:18:06 | amiconn | Are the specific things to watch out for when testing eabi builds? |
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| 00:26:42 | Buschel | gevaerts: I never did this before. Is this fine? -> http://www.pastebin.org/325328 |
| 00:26:59 | jhMikeS | amiconn: it's either worked or not so far (with only 3g not doing well) |
| 00:27:10 | amiconn | hmm |
| 00:27:12 | gevaerts | Buschel: yes, looks good |
| 00:27:20 | jhMikeS | h10 5/6 gb seems to be ok too |
| 00:28:23 | Buschel | gevaerts: thanks, will submit now |
| 00:28:49 | CIA-6 | New commit by Buschel (r26803): Build iPod Video with EABI toolchain. |
| 00:29:15 | amiconn | Did the bootloaders get testing too? |
| 00:29:46 | Buschel | if I didn't get anything wrong :o) |
| 00:30:15 | Buschel | btw, I assume the 64MB iPod Videos behave the same as 32MB iPods. We will in short. |
| 00:31:22 | jhMikeS | ummm, wait...is h10 5gb supposed to not have a separate bootloader build? (or am I overlooking something) |
| 00:32:08 | gevaerts | It actually *should* have two separate bootloader builds |
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| 00:32:57 | jhMikeS | I don't see it in the table nor in www/buildserver/builds |
| 00:33:13 | CIA-6 | New commit by pixelma (r26804): Various minor corrections to some Iaudios' and their remote's keymap files. Fixes these manuals which were broken since r26617 and a bit more. |
| 00:33:26 | amiconn | Not all possible bootloaders are built by the build system |
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| 00:33:53 | jhMikeS | why some and not others? |
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| 00:34:04 | jhMikeS | too similar for those? |
| 00:34:11 | gevaerts | I suspect they got overlooked |
| 00:34:53 | CIA-6 | r26804 build result: All green |
| 00:35:05 | amiconn | Too similar. |
| 00:35:35 | amiconn | Back then the build system wasn't *that* powerful. |
| 00:35:57 | jhMikeS | now the build system builds you |
| 00:36:50 | amiconn | Targets obviously need to be built in all variants, but bootloaders and sims aren't offered for download, so we decided to build only as many bootloaders and sims as necessary to get good coverage of the code base |
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| 00:41:35 | amiconn | Hmm, eabi H10 6GB bootloader is larger than the old one !? |
| 00:43:20 | amiconn | And booting the OF seems to hang |
| 00:44:38 | amiconn | Actually it seems to work, but the OF fails to access the LCD |
| 00:45:22 | CIA-6 | New commit by pixelma (r26805): Enable the IAUDIO_RC_PAD macro for the M5 and X5 too, so that tables using this instead of the platform files' actions can be filled too. Complete the ... |
| 00:46:01 | * | jhMikeS just got it to load OF |
| 00:46:41 | gevaerts | amiconn: is that an eabi regression, or is it a regression since the last bootloader release? |
| 00:46:49 | CIA-6 | r26805 build result: All green |
| 00:47:18 | amiconn | Actually the eabi bootloader is smaller than an old-abi svn bootloader |
| 00:47:23 | jhMikeS | gevaerts: OF is playing music here so I can't say I'm experiencing anything |
| 00:47:29 | amiconn | But it is larger than the released bootloader |
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| 00:48:22 | CIA-6 | New commit by pixelma (r26806): Use the correct 'RC' macro for the remote column in the pitch screen button table. |
| 00:49:15 | amiconn | Seems to be an eabi regression |
| 00:49:39 | amiconn | An old-abi svn bootloader works (but there's some viewport problem when displaying the messages) |
| 00:49:49 | CIA-6 | r26806 build result: All green |
| 00:50:02 | amiconn | It might be my own code though (I have some uncommitted lcd code for H10 5/6GB) |
| 00:51:03 | amiconn | This code works in main rockbox with both abis |
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| 00:52:02 | jhMikeS | amiconn: mine's unaltered SVN |
| 00:52:22 | amiconn | And the bootloader manages to start the OF so that the latter works correctly? |
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| 00:55:24 | Buschel | good night! |
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| 00:55:45 | pixelma | AlexP: the virtual keyboard button table was even threefold (one for the Player). The latter is still there (build fails though because the note above is also included which uses an \Action macro which the Player's platform and the real c code doesn't have). Easy fix would be to just \nopt that part. More "complicated" would be to add the manual actions anyway. What do you think? |
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| 00:56:56 | pixelma | I'm wondering a bit what would happen to those if the \Actions really get autogenerated at some point in time and the target doesn't actually have it in c |
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| 01:08:42 | amiconn | There seems to be a slight bug with the selection bar in PF |
| 01:08:56 | amiconn | Other than that I couldn't find problems with eabi on H10 6GB |
| 01:12:46 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Will you activate it? |
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| 01:16:03 | amiconn | Argh |
| 01:16:24 | amiconn | Loading an eabi plugin from the running old-abi core freezes |
| 01:24:32 | jhMikeS | activate? yeah, sure. I'm not having any problems. |
| 01:24:44 | ssorgatem | amiconn: Mmm it didn't one month ago or so |
| 01:25:05 | amiconn | "it" being? |
| 01:25:30 | ssorgatem | it = [01:16] <amiconn> Loading an eabi plugin from the running old-abi core freezes |
| 01:25:43 | amiconn | Well, it just did on my ipod color |
| 01:26:03 | ssorgatem | it isn't supposed to work, anyways |
| 01:26:28 | amiconn | I had the old core still running, because there was a rolo checksum error (that happens occasionally and is definitely no eabi problem) |
| 01:27:11 | amiconn | Then I accidentally clicked on rockbox-info.txt instead of rockbox.ipod, firing up the text viewer -> freeze |
| 01:27:41 | ssorgatem | Mmm I don't think I tried the text viewer |
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| 01:28:05 | ssorgatem | I remember rockboy worked |
| 01:28:35 | ssorgatem | or even non-eabi doom in a eabi-rockbox |
| 01:28:39 | amiconn | I get some failed album art images in PF with eabi |
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| 01:37:21 | CIA-6 | New commit by pixelma (r26807): Quick fix of the Player's manual which was also broken in r26617. I overlooked that the Player uses yet another button table... |
| 01:37:22 | CIA-6 | New commit by jethead71 (r26808): Build H10 5/6GB with EABI toolchain. |
| 01:39:09 | CIA-6 | r26807 build result: All green |
| 01:40:27 | CIA-6 | New commit by jethead71 (r26809): Build H10 5/6GB with EABI toolchain. |
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| 01:40:42 | pixelma | eh? |
| 01:41:19 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Can you check the PF selector bar (the one in the tracklist when "entering" an album)? |
| 01:41:36 | amiconn | There seem to be some wrongly coloured horizontal lines |
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| 01:41:56 | jhMikeS | I see those, yes |
| 01:41:59 | CIA-6 | r26809 build result: All green |
| 01:42:00 | amiconn | Happens at least on my H10 6GB as well as iPod color |
| 01:42:11 | amiconn | But it doesn't happen on arm old-abi or cf |
| 01:42:17 | pixelma | ah, was just confused about the commit message being the same :| |
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| 01:43:20 | jhMikeS | pixelma: one to www and one to trunk |
| 01:43:59 | pixelma | IMO worth altering the message a bit |
| 01:45:02 | jhMikeS | with gigf, no lines... |
| 01:47:52 | amiconn | Can you try a cache rebuild as well? |
| 01:48:12 | amiconn | I'm getting "Album art is bad" for several albums on mini G2 as well |
| 01:48:50 | amiconn | It *should* be all bmp album art, provided rockbox prefers that over jpg |
| 01:49:30 | amiconn | And even greylib gives those weird lines |
| 01:50:24 | bucko | So I have been doing some testing on audio file formats after finding Musepack decodes efficiently on Rockbox targets. |
| 01:51:08 | bucko | Turns out it's also not very good −− it's encoding files 50-100% larger than Vorbis files with the same stability under my listening tests. |
| 01:54:41 | bucko | (On an admittedly rather small sample size.) |
| 01:55:16 | jhMikeS | amiconn: I have no messages about albut art, but there's not much on the 5gb anyway. |
| 01:56:07 | amiconn | I didn't get those on my 6GB either (which also doesn't have many albums), but both on the Color and the Mini G2 |
| 01:57:33 | bucko | What's the biggest flash-based Rockbox target? |
| 01:57:55 | jhMikeS | gigs has no lines |
| 01:58:51 | amiconn | It even happened for the same albums |
| 01:59:57 | amiconn | Hmm, seems to be the case on old abi as well |
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| 02:01:10 | amiconn | Okay, that's unrelated |
| 02:02:01 | amiconn | But the lines are not |
| 02:02:09 | amiconn | They also appear on my c200 now |
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| 02:04:55 | jhMikeS | neither gigabeat has lines but e200v1 does...all are memframe lcd... |
| 02:05:07 | jhMikeS | h10 20GB has lines |
| 02:05:14 | krazykit | bucko, the various 8GB sansas with microSDHC slots would be the largest |
| 02:05:41 | amiconn | Well, neither color nor c200 are memframe targets, and the Mini G2 is even using the greylib |
| 02:05:47 | amiconn | They all have the lines |
| 02:06:10 | amiconn | krazykit: Only if not taking mods into account |
| 02:06:29 | jhMikeS | all with lines are arm7, while the others are arm9 and arm11...that's all I can think of |
| 02:06:48 | amiconn | They're even all PP |
| 02:07:07 | krazykit | well, yes. CF mods and SSD mods would take the cake |
| 02:08:03 | amiconn | Other than that, all 3 targets seem to work fine with eabi |
| 02:08:10 | amiconn | I didn't try bootloaders though |
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| 02:11:31 | jhMikeS | I checked bootloaders on most of it. I didn't feel like being forced to redo the beast right now. |
| 02:12:56 | pixelma | krazykit: or maybe the D2 (there is one which has 16GB built-in and they take full-size SDs) but it's not a matured port yet unlike some Sansas |
| 02:14:29 | amiconn | jhMikeS: 2nd Gen crashes with a stkov |
| 02:14:51 | pixelma | krazykit: I mean one type of D2 model, no mods... that came out wrong |
| 02:15:00 | jhMikeS | I got that on 3g. tried upping the idle stack size, but it still froze. |
| 02:15:20 | amiconn | "*PANIC*" with the "*PAN" part overwritten, and Stkov 40004350 (1) |
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| 02:16:08 | jhMikeS | I think that's happening when the COP tries to go into the idle loop at init |
| 02:17:46 | amiconn | That address is in thread.o ibss area... |
| 02:18:23 | jhMikeS | that's because it has no name, so it prints an address instead |
| 02:18:42 | amiconn | It's not in the idle stack area |
| 02:19:05 | jhMikeS | no, it's the thread slot address, because thread->name is NULL |
| 02:19:07 | amiconn | .idle_stacks is at 0x40008748 |
| 02:21:05 | jhMikeS | it initializes a thread slot for the core, then the core does a thread exit, there it remains in the idle loop until a real thread exists |
| 02:22:55 | amiconn | hmm |
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| 02:31:49 | jhMikeS | the usage of that at startup went up for PP502x, from whatever it was to over 90% on some targets (oddly, H10 20GB only shows 68% use after init, while others show 93%), but those stacks were meant to be tiny. |
| 02:33:28 | jhMikeS | H10 5/6 and e200v1 both show 93% use after init |
| 02:46:02 | amiconn | 93% on Color, Mini G2 and c200v1 as well |
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| 02:47:03 | amiconn | 71% on 1st/2nd Gen with old abi |
| 02:49:57 | amiconn | Where are the idle stacks "deadbeefed"? |
| 02:50:30 | jhMikeS | in crt0-pp.S, just like the main stack |
| 02:58:32 | amiconn | Neither doubling nor quadrupling the idle stack size helps |
| 02:59:07 | jhMikeS | I wonder too about where in thread_exit, it switches back to the idle stack. it's been ok so far but that could be coming to bite now since it's really not quite proper. (btw, tried that) |
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| 03:01:48 | jhMikeS | you might be able to get away with commenting out line 1710 just to test |
| 03:03:30 | jhMikeS | btw, I stopped get the stkov when increasing it, but it just froze instead |
| 03:03:33 | amiconn | Still crashes |
| 03:03:44 | amiconn | I got the stkov always |
| 03:03:58 | amiconn | The amount of overwriting varies though |
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| 03:15:59 | funman | lua overlay doesn't fit in clipv1 RAM by 10kB :/ |
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| 03:22:24 | aitiba | hi |
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| 03:23:16 | aitiba | I would ike to install rockbox on my ipod but I dont know which generation is.how can I know that? |
| 03:25:20 | funman | if you run the automatic installer you can use autodetection |
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| 03:25:42 | aitiba | funman, thanks |
| 03:25:58 | funman | also check http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1353 |
| 03:26:22 | aitiba | if I have problem are there any posibilitys to keep alive my ipod? |
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| 03:27:49 | funman | yes, it's really hard to destroy ipod |
| 03:27:53 | S_a_i_n_t | aitiba: There's no chance of damaging you're iPod installing rockbox...if that's what you mean. |
| 03:28:49 | aitiba | S_a_i_n_t, I dont like to damage my ipod |
| 03:28:53 | aitiba | I use it |
| 03:31:16 | aitiba | I donwload http://download.rockbox.org/rbutil/linux/RockboxUtility-v1.2.6.tar.bz2 and is an exe file? |
| 03:31:18 | aitiba | :S |
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| 03:33:04 | funman | no it is a bz2 |
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| 03:33:30 | funman | read the page again there's a windows link |
| 03:33:48 | aitiba | and bz2 is a compressed file that I have to uncompress |
| 03:33:52 | aitiba | i'm on ubuntu |
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| 03:35:00 | funman | then yes it's an exe-cutable file for linux, not a .exe for windows |
| 03:36:18 | aitiba | funman, do you know how can I install RockBoxUtility on linux? |
| 03:36:53 | funman | just download the url you gave an uncompress it |
| 03:37:41 | aitiba | but I need an emulator to can run |
| 03:38:00 | simonrvn | no |
| 03:38:01 | aitiba | on linux the way to install programs are not exe files |
| 03:38:32 | aitiba | two click and taht it |
| 03:38:34 | aitiba | sorry |
| 03:41:09 | aitiba | Detected an unsupported player: |
| 03:41:09 | aitiba | Apple Ipod Nano (Third Generation) |
| 03:41:09 | aitiba | Sorry, Rockbox doesn't run on your player. |
| 03:41:11 | aitiba | :( |
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| 03:43:32 | simonrvn | iPod 3rd Gen NO MAJOR ISSUES No Yes Yes Yes |
| 03:43:42 | simonrvn | Target Current Status Notes USB Battery Charging Dual Boot OF Install with rbutil |
| 03:44:08 | simonrvn | according to www.rockbox.org/wiki/TargetStatus it is supported |
| 03:44:12 | aitiba | simonrvn, the autodetect say me this |
| 03:44:20 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 03:45:07 | simonrvn | and on www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodPort: "Rockbox works nicely, but more work is needed on this port" |
| 03:45:54 | simonrvn | i highly suggest using and reading the doc on the wiki, very useful |
| 03:45:57 | simonrvn | docs* |
| 03:46:13 | aitiba | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodNano3GPort |
| 03:47:33 | aitiba | :-P |
| 03:49:24 | simonrvn | ah, you didn't say ipod nano 3g (admittedly you didn't know what it was) |
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| 04:00:21 | Cero | I guess i'm asking a dumb question. thanks anyways |
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| 05:22:24 | Nubsauce | anyone around I could ask some questions about rockbox and nano 2g wsod? |
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| 05:25:55 | Nubsauce | so I have a nano 2g, put the bootloader on it and rockbox |
| 05:26:07 | Nubsauce | reboot and it seems to load a different os |
| 05:26:33 | Nubsauce | how can I tell? well the screen is a few shades darker and there is no clicking with the scroll wheel |
| 05:27:04 | Nubsauce | also the hold button up top turns the white screen off then back on when I toggle it |
| 05:27:07 | simonrvn | did you see a rockbox logo? |
| 05:27:43 | Nubsauce | I load what would be the ipod os and the scroll wheel clicks and the screen is shock white |
| 05:27:55 | Nubsauce | and the hold button doesn't do anythign except lock the controls |
| 05:28:00 | Nubsauce | i can't see anything but whilte |
| 05:28:08 | Nubsauce | is there a hardware white screen of death |
| 05:28:17 | Nubsauce | i really thought it was a firmware/software thing |
| 05:29:19 | Nubsauce | when i reformat it with the itunes software it goes back to it's original white screen (no text ever) mode |
| 05:29:34 | Nubsauce | never see any logos |
| 05:29:39 | Nubsauce | rockbox or apple |
| 05:30:38 | Nubsauce | I've searched all over and can't find any seemingly worthwhile information on a white screen issue being physical, have you ever heard of that? |
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| 05:31:35 | tmzt | the only thing you ever see if white or off? the shades are backlight differences between OF and rockbox? |
| 05:31:52 | Nubsauce | I've searched your forums, ipodlinux, all over the place and nothing on a hardware wsod for nano 2g |
| 05:32:20 | Nubsauce | yeah, there's a shading difference between the 2 firmwares |
| 05:32:37 | Nubsauce | and the scrollwheel and hold button interact differently |
| 05:33:05 | Nubsauce | but always a white screen, just 2 different shades, 1 for OF and a slightly darker shade for rockbox |
| 05:35:35 | Nubsauce | I memorized how to get thru the menu on the original firmware, so I can actually play songs....lol |
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| 05:35:59 | Nubsauce | It's my daughters tho and the last thing I want to do is teach her how to dig down to the songs by memory |
| 05:37:30 | blackromeo | sup again peeps |
| 05:37:48 | Nubsauce | Is it possible it's a hardware issue, like a loose cable to the screen? |
| 05:37:57 | Nubsauce | sup black? |
| 05:37:59 | blackromeo | ive finally managed to rox my box :))) |
| 05:38:07 | Nubsauce | woot |
| 05:38:19 | blackromeo | just one thing |
| 05:38:25 | tmzt | any tft will fade to white if the initialization fails |
| 05:38:36 | tmzt | but usually through colors first |
| 05:38:44 | blackromeo | now that my fuze v2 is rocked boxed |
| 05:39:04 | blackromeo | how do i change to the orignal screen? |
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| 05:39:29 | blackromeo | i heard you can dual boot? |
| 05:39:35 | blackromeo | how do i do this? |
| 05:39:39 | Nubsauce | I know how to do a nano, you hit the hold button while the apple logo is on |
| 05:39:45 | Nubsauce | no idea on that one |
| 05:40:23 | tmzt | I believe it's hold the bottom part of the wheel, there are documentats on the rockbox site (the manual) that should describe this for supported targets |
| 05:40:35 | tmzt | I have fuzev1, not v2 |
| 05:42:17 | blackromeo | ah ok |
| 05:42:27 | blackromeo | i shall have a look at the manual and see |
| 05:43:05 | Nubsauce | Is there a way without looking at the screen I can verify this is actually rockbox loading? |
| 05:43:15 | Nubsauce | does it act like I've said by default? |
| 05:43:27 | Nubsauce | I mean the lock button turning off and on the screen |
| 05:43:34 | Nubsauce | and no sound on the scroll wheel? |
| 05:44:02 | tmzt | does the screen go directly to white? |
| 05:44:07 | Nubsauce | yes |
| 05:44:21 | tmzt | it could be off with only the backlight on |
| 05:44:27 | tmzt | in which case hardware is most likely |
| 05:44:36 | tmzt | it seems both softwares are booting completely |
| 05:44:43 | Nubsauce | when it loads the original firmware, it stays a sharp white...when it seems to load rockbox it goes shock white, then drops a shade |
| 05:44:58 | tmzt | those are backlight differences |
| 05:45:02 | Nubsauce | thanks you |
| 05:45:16 | Nubsauce | lol |
| 05:46:01 | Nubsauce | thanks much, I'll try to find a replacement screen |
| 05:47:37 | Nubsauce | You know how hard it was to try to load ipodlinux manually without seeing the screen ever? |
| 05:47:56 | Nubsauce | it was horrible and I don't think I ever got it complete |
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| 05:52:00 | krazykit | or you could make it use voices and generate talk clips so you don't need the screen :) |
| 05:52:10 | Nubsauce | omg |
| 05:52:17 | Nubsauce | that would kick ass |
| 05:52:41 | Nubsauce | I'll look into that |
| 05:53:41 | krazykit | rockbox utility should take care of everything for you, except possibly enabling voice, but that's an easy fix in the config file, i would think |
| 05:54:28 | Nubsauce | so does it have files preconfigured that will say the name of the current menu item? |
| 05:54:47 | simonrvn | it does by default |
| 05:54:53 | Nubsauce | daaamn |
| 05:54:58 | Nubsauce | that might work well |
| 05:55:08 | krazykit | yes, that's the voice file. the talk clips are generated for your music content |
| 05:55:11 | simonrvn | at least when i ran the svn "fresh install", and no config |
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| 06:04:48 | puetzk | mc2739: Thanks for replying, that's the impression I'd gotten |
| 06:08:04 | Nubsauce | It seemed to install, but when I started it back up with RB, it doesn't seem to do anything when i move the scroll wheel |
| 06:08:12 | Nubsauce | it's not announcing any menus or anything |
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| 06:09:23 | Nubsauce | these get loaded in the partition that has rb, so i can just visually verify they're there by browsing that drive letter? |
| 06:09:28 | Nubsauce | checkin that now |
| 06:10:05 | * | Dhraakellian sees that the Sudoku scratchpad now gets saved |
| 06:10:23 | * | Dhraakellian also sees that (old) themes got broken |
| 06:11:26 | Dhraakellian | are the themes on themes.rockbox.org converted, or should I check out r26640 and build it locally so I can continue using old themes? |
| 06:12:01 | Dhraakellian | or grab the conversion tool and play around with it? |
| 06:14:27 | puetzk | mc2739: If you're knowledgeable about the as3525v2 recording, there's one other behavior I noticed that seems really odd. If I record at 48kHz, it looks like every sample is doubled (as if it is just doubling from 24kHz). |
| 06:14:44 | puetzk | This would be entirely reasonable behavior :-) |
| 06:15:01 | puetzk | However, the signal is audibly better at 48kHz; an actual 24kHz recording has artifacts that sound kinda like aliasing from higher frequencies,that go away in the 48kHz-but-not-really recording |
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| 06:22:20 | Nubsauce | The only part I need to do is the "install voice file" and it should read menu's correct? |
| 06:22:55 | Nubsauce | I see the english.voice file under langs |
| 06:23:11 | Nubsauce | so I know that part is done, but it doesn't seem to work |
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| 06:27:47 | Nubsauce | what comes up on the first screen for RB? |
| 06:28:03 | Nubsauce | is there osmething i need to hit once it powers on that isn't announce by the voice? |
| 06:28:52 | Nubsauce | nevermind, got it |
| 06:29:14 | Nubsauce | you guys rock |
| 06:29:35 | Nubsauce | can the apple firmware even announce the menus like that? |
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| 06:38:18 | flan_suse | Anyone in the building? |
| 06:40:07 | rvvs89 | Nubsauce: If the advertising is to be believed, the latest generation of nano can. |
| 06:40:26 | simonrvn | conversion tool? why didn't i think of that... |
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| 06:43:37 | flan_suse | Ah. |
| 06:45:17 | flan_suse | I installed Rockbox, lastest current build (r26809-100611) on my Sansa Clip+. Insallation went smoothly, added fonts and themes, everything's good. But I noticed that when I plug it into my computer, nothing is detected. dmesg | tail shows that no device was plugged into the USB port. The screen on the Sansa Clip switches between a picture of a USB cable and the Rockbox logo. |
| 06:45:43 | flan_suse | In other words, there's no way to add music or access the Sansa Clip+ when it's plugged into the computer. |
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| 06:49:36 | puetzk | flan_suse: did you redo the bootloader with the 3.6 mkamsboot? |
| 06:49:50 | puetzk | I know I had to do that to get the Clip+ to reboot into the OF on USB |
| 06:49:52 | flan_suse | puetzk, first time, so I don't think so. |
| 06:50:10 | puetzk | first time should work too |
| 06:50:19 | puetzk | as long as you did use the one from June 6 |
| 06:50:36 | puetzk | if you just upgrade rockbox and not the bootloader, then that doesn't work |
| 06:50:45 | flan_suse | I am using: r26809-100611 |
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| 06:50:55 | flan_suse | I installed the bootloader first, then rockbox. |
| 06:51:14 | flan_suse | But it boots straight into Rockbox, and plugging the device into a USB port is not detected by the computer. |
| 06:51:42 | puetzk | Hmm |
| 06:51:48 | puetzk | Mine works :-) |
| 06:51:58 | puetzk | You can also get into the OF by holding down the Home button as it boots |
| 06:52:05 | puetzk | but you shouldn't have to |
| 06:52:28 | flan_suse | puetzk, I'm supposed to see a menu selection for which firmware I want to boot into? |
| 06:52:34 | puetzk | No |
| 06:52:45 | puetzk | but if you hold down the Home button as you hit power, it will go to the OF instead of rockbox |
| 06:52:54 | flan_suse | puetzk, okay, it did. |
| 06:53:12 | flan_suse | puetzk, but shouldn't Rockbox work as MSC mode and the Clip+ should be detected on the computer? |
| 06:53:32 | puetzk | Rockbox doesn't do MSC mode on the AMSv2 sansas (yet) |
| 06:53:37 | flan_suse | puetzk, it's not simply not mounting it, not even the kernel detects a USB device is plugged in. dmesg | tail reveals nothing. |
| 06:53:48 | puetzk | though it's supposed to reboot into the OF when you plug the cable in |
| 06:53:54 | puetzk | which yours doesn't do for some reason |
| 06:54:00 | flan_suse | puetzk, oh. |
| 06:54:42 | flan_suse | puetzk, if the device is off and I plug it in, it will power on, show the Rockbox logo, then switch to a USB cable picture, then to the logo, back and forth. It looks weird when it does that. |
| 06:54:59 | puetzk | Yeah, it's supposed to go to the USB cable picture, then reboot to the OF |
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| 06:55:25 | flan_suse | puetzk, it's not though. But it does for your Clip+? |
| 06:55:46 | puetzk | Yes. I'm running 3.6, I wonder if people have started turning on other bits of the USB driver-in-progress in the current build |
| 06:56:10 | flan_suse | puetzk, I might have an idea, one second. |
| 06:56:22 | mc2739 | there is no 3.6 for clip+ |
| 06:56:44 | flan_suse | puetzk, nope, my idea didn't work. |
| 06:56:50 | puetzk | mc2739: oh, right |
| 06:56:51 | flan_suse | mc2739, you're sure? I just installed it. |
| 06:57:00 | puetzk | well, I'm running SVN from about that era :-) |
| 06:57:16 | puetzk | forgot that it didn't get blessed |
| 06:57:21 | mc2739 | flan_suse: yes, 3.6 is only for stable target |
| 06:57:25 | flan_suse | mc2739, oh. |
| 06:57:45 | flan_suse | mc2739, well, it's the current build: r26809-100611 |
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| 06:58:21 | flan_suse | puetzk, what is your build? I might have to grab that version instead. |
| 06:58:35 | mc2739 | flan_suse: if you plug in your cable when the clip+ is offm it should boot to the OF for file transfers, or boot whille pressing the hold button and then attach the cable |
| 06:58:36 | * | puetzk mostly uses the uSD slot to move music onto it, since the OF takes several minutes of "Refreshing your media" to boot |
| 06:58:58 | flan_suse | mc2739, I tried when it's off (and on) and the same thing happens as described above. |
| 06:59:23 | puetzk | r26457-100601 |
| 06:59:28 | flan_suse | mc2739, it works when I boot into OF and then plug it in. |
| 06:59:43 | flan_suse | mc2739, I can technically "live" with that, but it's kind of awkward. |
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| 07:00:09 | flan_suse | puetzk, so I guess yours was built on June 1st. |
| 07:00:41 | puetzk | yeah, older than I thought it was |
| 07:01:06 | mc2739 | then you need to patch your firmware with the latest version of mkamsboot (from June 6) |
| 07:01:07 | setfilepath | Settings > General Settings > File View > Show Path > "Off" is this setting supposed to remove the path from all screens ?, if so, v3.6 doesn't do this. |
| 07:02:22 | flan_suse | mc2739, I use the Rockbox utility to do this? |
| 07:03:24 | mc2739 | flan_suse: the release version of rockbox utility does not have the latest mkamsboot |
| 07:04:09 | flan_suse | mc2739, I just dump the .bin file into .rockbox and then unplug? |
| 07:04:33 | mc2739 | flan_suse: ypu can get a development version of rockbox utility here: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=23544.0 |
| 07:05:37 | mc2739 | flan_suse: no, the patched bin file (with the correct name for your device) needs to go in the root directory |
| 07:05:48 | flan_suse | mc2739, got it. Going to make it now. |
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| 07:15:06 | flan_suse | mc2739, it worked. I used mkamsboot to patch SanDisk's OF, copied the patched .bin into the root folder of the device (renamed it to clppa.bin), unplugged, and viola. |
| 07:15:17 | flan_suse | When I plug my Sansa Clip+ into the computer, it reboots into the OF. |
| 07:15:39 | flan_suse | Even if Rockbox was currently on. |
| 07:17:12 | flan_suse | Thanks for all the help. You guys... rock. |
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| 07:17:20 | flan_suse | Okay, that was a pathetic pun, but what else could I say? |
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| 07:18:56 | Reaper_man | hey quick question |
| 07:19:18 | Reaper_man | is there any way to remove the apple logo on bootup (5th gen 30GB iPod) |
| 07:26:25 | CIA-6 | New commit by pamaury (r26810): usb-as3535v2: add more defines, reorganize/simplify things, add code for interrupt handling |
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| 08:10:05 | S_a_i_n_t_ | Reaper_man: Nope. |
| 08:10:19 | Reaper_man | ;_; |
| 08:10:38 | S_a_i_n_t_ | is it *that* annoying? |
| 08:10:50 | Reaper_man | I hate Apple, so yeah |
| 08:10:59 | Reaper_man | at least I can sand off the back |
| 08:11:20 | S_a_i_n_t_ | I can't remember if iPodWizzard supports that model iPod or not, but you should be able to *alter* the image, but you can't remove it, no. |
| 08:11:32 | Reaper_man | Alter!? :D |
| 08:11:37 | Reaper_man | that works too! |
| 08:12:38 | S_a_i_n_t_ | Google iPod Wizzard", I can't remember if it supports your model though. And be careful, some assholes decided to flood the net with versions of it loaded with spyware. |
| 08:13:08 | S_a_i_n_t_ | If you have even halfway decent antivirus, or get it from a decent source it'll all be sweet though. |
| 08:14:27 | pixelma | you know that's a *bit* off-topic here though ;) |
| 08:15:02 | S_a_i_n_t_ | yeah, sorry...my IRC wondows were switched around. I thought it was -community :/ |
| 08:15:08 | * | S_a_i_n_t_ apologises. |
| 08:18:14 | CIA-6 | New commit by kkurbjun (r26811): M:Robe 500 - Build with EABI. |
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| 08:40:54 | Nubsauce | later, thanks for the info all |
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| 10:21:49 | JdGordon | bieber: tanks for moving the VIEWPORT tag, wont be able to play with it tonight though but anyway :) |
| 10:34:06 | JdGordon | oh new CIA-6 info :) nice |
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| 10:40:49 | setfilepath | Settings > General Settings > File View > Show Path > "Off" is this setting supposed to remove the path from all screens ?, if so, v3.6 doesn't do this |
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| 10:42:12 | setfilepath | JdGordon ^ |
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| 10:47:28 | bertrik | I think I'll do a battery benchmark of my clip v1 now that we use eabi and thumb |
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| 10:50:25 | literal | what is "thumb", by the way? |
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| 10:51:19 | bertrik | it is a separate CPU instruction set in ARM processors where instructions are 16-bit wide instead of 32-bit |
| 10:51:31 | literal | ok |
| 10:54:53 | bertrik | Basically this makes code take up less space, thumb was enabled on some ams sansa players because they have a relatively small DRAM. For more info on thumb, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture#Thumb |
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| 11:00:13 | literal | but you think it will affect performance, too? |
| 11:05:18 | bertrik | I don't know, maybe funman knows, I guess I'll find out. Most codecs probably need less than 20% of the full processor power. |
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| 11:36:00 | CIA-6 | New commit by amiconn (r26815): Buildserver: Build iPod Color, iPod Mini 2nd Gen and Sansa c200 with EABI. Also make sure m:robe500 is built on a proper client. |
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| 11:39:24 | funman | bertrik: i had tried battery life on my clipv1 but there was no difference when built with thumb |
| 11:39:58 | bertrik | cool, but I'll bench it anyway :) |
| 11:44:02 | amiconn | funman: Do you have an arm7tdmi target? |
| 11:44:09 | amiconn | (PP or other) |
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| 11:47:23 | funman | no |
| 11:47:33 | amiconn | hmm |
| 11:47:45 | * | amiconn wonders what might cause the weird lines in PF with EABI |
| 11:48:47 | funman | perhaps i could make a build with mcpu=arm7tdmi and run it on arm9 though |
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| 11:52:53 | amiconn | I suspect signedness problems in draw_gradient() |
| 11:53:08 | amiconn | But if this is the case, why doesn't it happen on arm9 and arm11? |
| 11:53:27 | amiconn | (and neither on CF, or when building arm7 with old abi) |
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| 11:54:51 | amiconn | Other than that, EABI seems to work quite well so far, except on PP5002 |
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| 12:08:00 | funman | can you mix eabi files and non-eabi? for example copy libfirmware.a from a non-eabi build to see where the bugs are |
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| 12:15:12 | funman | S_a_i_n_t: TheSeven: you said nano2g works fine with eabi ? |
| 12:15:42 | TheSeven | it did some months ago at least |
| 12:15:54 | TheSeven | I'm using an (outdated) eabi build right now |
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| 12:28:51 | * | amiconn did bootloader tests before r26814 |
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| 12:39:44 | funman | bertrik: IIUC, the meizu m6sp and m6sl are advertized as the same player (M6) ? |
| 12:40:26 | funman | hm well the SP has one more button |
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| 12:40:47 | funman | then my suggestion of using one build for both (and support 4 different LCD types) doesn't hold :/ |
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| 12:53:22 | funman | gevaerts: do you know the lcd controller ID value for the other m6sl LCD type? is it 0x139 ? |
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| 12:55:52 | funman | what i read here lets me think that the m6sl supports 3 different LCD |
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| 13:01:41 | funman | bertrik: perhaps removing the "- 1" from LCDTCON3 setting can fix the shifted display on m6sp |
| 13:03:52 | bertrik | funman, it's not always shifted for me, usually the first time it looks OK, shifted by a line later |
| 13:04:16 | funman | it behaved the same here (when i had rockbox code on it) |
| 13:05:19 | funman | hm well, -1 seems right in fact |
| 13:05:48 | bertrik | I did find some other "bugs" in the s5l8700 datasheet, so this could be one too |
| 13:06:26 | bertrik | This has been too long ago to be still really familiar with the LCD registers |
| 13:07:11 | bertrik | In hindsight, I should probably have documented the datasheet errors somewhere |
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| 15:23:53 | bertrik | The sansa clip+ firmware seems to have special handling for FM frequencies around 96 MHz, I guess it's receiving a harmonic of one of its own internal frequencies, (like 24MHz * 4) |
| 15:24:32 | gevaerts | IIRC the archoses (in rockbox) do something there as well |
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| 15:30:15 | kugel | that's the name of the plugin after all, and it doesn't show up translated in the filebrowser |
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| 15:58:51 | TheSeven | what's the general opinion on committing the hardware keyclick patch? (after fixing it and cleaning it up) |
| 15:58:58 | TheSeven | do we want that feature at all? |
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| 15:59:26 | funman | yes |
| 15:59:41 | TheSeven | personally, I like it, and I'm getting tired of needing to un-rot it over and over |
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| 16:00:26 | TheSeven | ok, so what needs to be done to get it committed? |
| 16:00:40 | TheSeven | of course, someone with an old ipod needs to figure out where it did break |
| 16:00:49 | funman | is it only external, or can you hear it in the phones too? |
| 16:00:54 | TheSeven | there was also some suggestion regarding the menu options |
| 16:01:02 | TheSeven | only external |
| 16:01:36 | funman | i don't know the patch but yeah it would be nice |
| 16:01:57 | TheSeven | (the patch adds an option to enable piezo clicking, however you can still (independently) enable the software clicking if you like it) |
| 16:02:25 | TheSeven | funman: if you want to look at it, it's FS #5111 |
| 16:02:27 | funman | i was thinking about different options for click, like "headphones", "speaker" |
| 16:02:31 | TheSeven | I'm about to resync it |
| 16:03:04 | funman | perhaps ask Torne since he knows quite well ipods |
| 16:03:39 | kugel | TheSeven: is my first comment addressed? |
| 16:04:51 | TheSeven | kugel: I don't really get your point |
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| 16:05:12 | TheSeven | from what I can tell, the keyclick was moved to an action_do_keyclick function which causes both clicks |
| 16:07:08 | TheSeven | Also, I would like to get rid of the extra thread for it on the old ipods, if that is possible |
| 16:07:15 | TheSeven | on the nano2g it doesn't need a thread anyway |
| 16:08:43 | TheSeven | kugel: are you referring to the "#ifdef HAVE_HARDWARE_CLICK"s in apps/gui/list.c? |
| 16:08:49 | TheSeven | those seem to be spurious... |
| 16:09:31 | TheSeven | they cause clicks (both software and hardware) only if a device _supports_ hardware keyclick, no matter if it's enabled |
| 16:09:41 | TheSeven | this doesn't make much sense to me |
| 16:10:22 | kugel | some of the changes look strange to me |
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| 16:10:50 | TheSeven | can you point me to one? |
| 16:11:14 | TheSeven | (not that I would know anything about the GUI code, I'm looking at these things from the driver side) |
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| 16:12:36 | kugel | list.c for example |
| 16:13:17 | kugel | it only clicks when wrapping the lists? |
| 16:13:44 | kugel | that'd make it useless for me |
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| 16:25:55 | TheSeven | kugel: no, it doesn't |
| 16:25:56 | TheSeven | it |
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| 16:26:27 | TheSeven | it's in every branch of the if |
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| 16:30:27 | kugel | TheSeven: so for each item? |
| 16:30:35 | TheSeven | apparently yes |
| 16:30:44 | kugel | that would be nice |
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| 16:35:16 | domonoky | ui, das ist ja nen lustiges gehäuse.. schön platzsparend. |
| 16:35:25 | domonoky | ups, wrong channel |
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| 16:45:11 | TheSeven | never touch a running system |
| 16:45:49 | TheSeven | i just upgraded my nano2g to the newest version, and it looks like there are some new bugs |
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| 17:31:29 | bertrik | Rockbox utility installs tested bootloaders, even for something unstable like clip+, right? |
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| 17:45:52 | Buschel | JdGordon: can you take a look at FS #11395? |
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| 17:54:50 | JdGordon | Buschel: yeah, not really much can be done about that... that patch is slightly overkill but fine |
| 17:58:34 | Buschel | JdGordon: there's no sideeffect you would expect and no better solution that comes up your mind? |
| 17:59:25 | JdGordon | not at 2am and in my slightly tipsy state :) |
| 17:59:46 | bertrik | r0b-, I have a clip+ now with the same fm radio chip that you and pamaury have, meaning I can now more easily debug it and make it work |
| 17:59:52 | JdGordon | We could of course make it easier to apply those changes |
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| 18:00:12 | JdGordon | but for the time being either do that theme_settings_apply() or leave it open |
| 18:00:24 | Buschel | :o) let's keep the bug entry open unitl tomorrow then :) just in case in should have a better idea. |
| 18:00:52 | kugel | how about: an event COLORS_CHANGED, and each skin would have a callback that updates every viewport which has the colors via "-"? |
| 18:01:22 | JdGordon | because we dont store that viewports are set with that colour |
| 18:01:25 | kugel | though I guess %Vf/%Vb complicate it |
| 18:01:31 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 18:01:40 | JdGordon | yes and no... |
| 18:01:42 | kugel | it could be stored easily |
| 18:02:53 | JdGordon | changing the background is another thing which shoudlnt require the full theme reload |
| 18:03:14 | * | JdGordon has fantastic plans for the skins in the future incluidng not loading all in one hit like now |
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| 18:12:38 | funman | bertrik: yep, rockbox utility only downloads released bootloaders |
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| 18:15:27 | bertrik | funman, r0b, pamaury, I expect to be able to post a basic tuning patch for the clip+ by the end of the weekend or so |
| 18:17:36 | funman | saratoga: i think the simplest way to have this tremor patch committed is for you to ask svn access |
| 18:18:56 | bertrik | funman, is there anything else in particular you want me to take a look at (and that applies to clip+)? |
| 18:19:31 | bertrik | Maybe experiment a bit with PLL/clocks/boosting? |
| 18:20:04 | funman | experimenting with PLL would be nice, at least to make people not cry about playback frequency 1% too small |
| 18:20:30 | bertrik | Do we boost/unboost at all on amsv2? |
| 18:20:52 | funman | you can change a bit and measure the new pclk by comparing TIMER frequency and RTC, or measure new fclk by running a simple loop with known number of cycles and comparing with RTC again |
| 18:21:17 | funman | no, the experiments at FS #11297 all crash for unknown reason |
| 18:21:54 | bertrik | I was thinking that maybe I could just put playback on a separate PLL with some kind of clicktrack (1 click/second) and see how fast it clicks for various setting |
| 18:23:05 | funman | that should work too |
| 18:23:13 | funman | i think there's a second PLL setting in the OF, let me look |
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| 18:24:45 | funman | 240MHz = 0x113b or 0x1813, and 160MHz = 0x154f |
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| 18:34:50 | funman | bertrik: about the Clip+, I think all problems are listed on SansaAMS wiki |
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| 18:36:00 | funman | feel free to pick up any item to work on, i'm not doing anything on Sansa these days (they work fine enough for me) - also feel free to ask if something you need isn't on this page |
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| 18:39:55 | funman | undef instruction handler and division by 0 are called with lr = address of the next instruction after the one which caused exception |
| 18:40:31 | funman | for undef instruction we substract 4 from the address to print the address of faulty instruction, but we could be in thumb mode |
| 18:40:41 | funman | for division by 0 we don't adjust at all |
| 18:43:37 | funman | Unhelpful: can you explain how __div0* work ? |
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| 18:44:23 | funman | __div0_wrap* in support-arm.S seems to set r0 to something but __div0() in system-arm.c is (void) |
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| 18:53:23 | dfkt | pixelma, i see you've been working on cowon x5 keymaps. may i suggest one improvement to the bootloader/power-on procedure? when flicking the power-on switch shortly, rockbox shows a "shutting down" message, and only a longer flick actually turns the player on. would it be possible to implement a short flick for "on"? i know there were some inofficial dual-bootloaders around that used short/long for loading both stock firmware and rockbox. |
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| 18:55:54 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r26818): Sansa AMS: call the exception handler with the correct address when the exception happened in Thumb state |
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| 18:57:30 | CIA-6 | r26818 build result: All green |
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| 19:08:26 | funman | fuck, BL are 32 bits in thumb |
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| 19:15:41 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r26819): ARM: __div0() takes no argument |
| 19:15:45 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r26820): __div0: give the address of the instruction calling division to UIE |
| 19:17:11 | CIA-6 | r26819 build result: All green |
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| 19:18:36 | funman | pff, this 'All green' is boring, i'll never test my changes again until I see what CIA says when the build breaks! |
| 19:18:43 | CIA-6 | r26820 build result: All green |
| 19:18:50 | * | funman kicks CIA-6 |
| 19:18:50 | CIA-6 | ow |
| 19:20:11 | funman | dfkt: if you make a new clip keymap for recording and FM, i'll do my best to convince saratoga to revert the clip+ hold change! |
| 19:31:12 | dfkt | funman, is there any problem with the current clip keymap? everything works fine for me? |
| 19:31:22 | funman | i think it's not very intuitive |
| 19:31:53 | dfkt | i never read a manual and could use it within a minute ;) |
| 19:33:04 | dfkt | all the basic stuff is the same as on all otehr rockbox targets i have/had - and the specific stuff isn't very intuitive on all other players as well (eg. power switch/button for exiting from the eq, and similar) |
| 19:33:54 | funman | ok :/ |
| 19:33:56 | dfkt | but saratoga's change to the keymap made it much less intuitive, in my opinion (and everybody else's who commented in the forum thread) |
| 19:34:59 | dfkt | i mean, i can only speak for the cowon x5, cowon d2, clipv1 - i don't know how intuitive keymaps are on other targets, like ipods |
| 19:35:23 | dfkt | i really don't think there is any usability problem on the clip+ :) |
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| 19:36:00 | funman | major usability problem of clip+ is if you play too long with the games you have pain to the fingers ;) |
| 19:36:02 | dfkt | i even love that a short press on the down button has no function - i use it to turn on the display |
| 19:36:22 | dfkt | lol, judging by your gameboy emu screenshots, i can feel with you ;) |
| 19:36:36 | * | funman discovers the effect of pressing long down button |
| 19:36:50 | funman | eheh, i just checked that it played, didn't spend much time ;) |
| 19:36:50 | dfkt | it's perfect, imo |
| 19:37:21 | dfkt | having the option to have all buttons execute their function immediately, and having one button just for turning the screen on is rather convenient |
| 19:38:48 | dfkt | i can look into a keymap for games, if you give me some specific plugin/emu i should look at (i only listen to music on my clip, but if it will bring you to fix the now broken keymap, i will check it out ;) |
| 19:38:59 | dfkt | s/if you give me/if you tell me |
| 19:39:12 | funman | well i'm not sure if games really need someone to invest a lot of time in them |
| 19:39:35 | dfkt | well, if it helps you or someone else... |
| 19:39:36 | funman | sometimes it's funny but really both the display and the device are too small to enjoy playing a lot |
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| 19:39:50 | funman | chopper keymap is perfect : it's all i ask ;) |
| 19:39:50 | dfkt | yeah, it's actually stupid, imo :D |
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| 19:40:03 | dfkt | get a DS or PSP if you want to play games ;) |
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| 19:41:58 | * | dfkt checks out chopper |
| 19:42:26 | funman | dfkt: do you charge your clip+ with rockbox or OF ? |
| 19:43:00 | dfkt | hahaha, it's a palm cave clone! |
| 19:43:17 | dfkt | i've charged it with of so far |
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| 19:43:58 | dfkt | is charging user selectable? |
| 19:44:01 | funman | i wonder if the bug where it can't power off is related to USB plug |
| 19:44:22 | funman | if you press center button while plugging it doesn't reboot to OF so it charges with rockbox |
| 19:44:26 | funman | is that what you meant? |
| 19:45:02 | dfkt | ah yes, at some point in time RB stayed active for charging, but now it switches automatically to OF when plugged into USB |
| 19:45:13 | funman | FlynDice: http://pastie.org/1001945 < anything i should add before testing with battery_bench ? |
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| 19:45:40 | funman | (and test_disk, to be sure) |
| 19:49:58 | FlynDice | funman: That looks like everything to me. |
| 19:57:38 | dfkt | funman - i see what you mean for the recording screen (i never checked it out before). i will try to come up with something easier to handle |
| 19:59:13 | funman | dfkt: perhaps volume buttons can be useful in this screen, they seem unused |
| 19:59:39 | dfkt | yes, i noticed |
| 19:59:54 | dfkt | and home- and center-button functions should probably be swapped |
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| 20:09:00 | Unhelpful | funman: if i recall correctly, i based the support-arm version on how libgcc calls __div0... but i was not able to find any documentation regarding whether the parameter in r0 was used and what it was supposed to contain. |
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| 20:12:03 | dfkt | funman - http://pastebin.com/y1T0xUrX |
| 20:12:17 | funman | Unhelpful: both 4.0.3 and 4.4.4 eabi put nothing in r0 in the builds i have |
| 20:12:31 | Unhelpful | funman: perhaps i recall incorrectly? ;) |
| 20:12:42 | funman | i can't tell how you recall :) |
| 20:13:33 | funman | dfkt: looks good |
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| 20:14:19 | * | Unhelpful doesn't see that in libgcc.a either. :/ |
| 20:14:20 | dfkt | funman, splitting on the separate key without obscure dual function might be good for quick action - and start/stop should be the same button, at least that seems the most logical to me |
| 20:14:33 | Unhelpful | did you already remove it? ;) |
| 20:14:47 | funman | dfkt: does stop still pause without splitting recording? |
| 20:14:56 | funman | Unhelpful: from your libgcc.a ? no it wasn't me ;) |
| 20:15:38 | Unhelpful | funman: no, i meant in r26819, from rockbox. :) |
| 20:15:56 | Unhelpful | but please feel free to continue not altering my libgcc.a :) |
| 20:18:21 | funman | i'll do my best :P |
| 20:18:56 | dfkt | funman, sorry, i meant start/pause, not stop. i see, tricky thing, implementing stop as well. :) |
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| 20:24:54 | funman | i think power would do fine for stop |
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| 20:31:02 | dfkt | funman, two alternatives (i like the first one better): http://pastebin.com/sG9XGmRE |
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| 20:40:15 | funman | yeah i think the first one is more intuitive |
| 20:40:20 | funman | using volume to navigate is a bit hard |
| 20:41:03 | dfkt | yeah - the important usability cue for me was keeping the actual functions and the navigation separate... both variants do that, but the first seems more practical |
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| 20:44:28 | dfkt | funman, for the fm radio i would only move the menu from the down button to the center button, to be in line with the audio player screen |
| 20:45:37 | dfkt | the rest is as i would expect it to be :) |
| 20:49:53 | funman | i guess it's fine |
| 20:54:44 | * | funman jumps on the occasion to point dfkt to http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?opened=5944&status[]= |
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| 20:58:47 | funman | FlynDice: i'm testing the SD patch on fuzev2, results tomorrow/monday |
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| 21:02:35 | * | dfkt thinks funman wants him to sign up to the unmanageable wiki/forum/flyspray/mailing-list behemoth ;) |
| 21:05:14 | funman | eheh no problem, you can send me the patch in private ;) |
| 21:06:31 | dfkt | heh |
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| 21:19:48 | saratoga | funman: I'm really busy this week, and waiting on my clip+ to get here anyway, so if you want to make changes don't wait for me |
| 21:20:12 | saratoga | as for xiph, i'll get back on them eventually |
| 21:20:38 | funman | i saw that sometimes tremor discussion happen on the vorbis list |
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| 21:36:26 | saratoga | FWIW Android seems to have some really interesting codec stuff, but its all apache licensed which wikipedia says is GPLv3 |
| 21:36:35 | saratoga | their headers are amazing |
| 21:36:59 | saratoga | detailed mathematical explanations of each operation, complete with psuedocode and citations |
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| 21:40:39 | saratoga | heh their mp3 synth_filter isn't any better then ours |
| 21:40:44 | saratoga | at least the ASM isn't |
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| 21:45:39 | funman | perhaps we could distribute the binaries as gplv3 and include some gplv3 (or compatible) code in the source |
| 21:46:21 | gevaerts | technically we could, but that's a major decision |
| 21:47:08 | funman | true, and that would make inclusion of gplv2-only code in the binary not possible |
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| 21:47:22 | wodz | pixelma: ping |
| 21:50:08 | wodz | what is this !@# $id: xxxxxx$ line in header of each file? |
| 21:50:34 | funman | svn keyword? |
| 21:50:36 | saratoga | do we have gplv2 only code? |
| 21:50:58 | wodz | it breaks svn diff patches |
| 21:51:26 | funman | wodz: if you write "$id$" (i think) in a file, and then set svn keyword Id = "id" for this file, "$Id$" is replaced by some svn stuff when you check it out |
| 21:51:41 | funman | IMO it's useless, and even harmful |
| 21:52:16 | funman | saratoga: we try to avoid it, so I don't think there is any |
| 21:52:23 | saratoga | thats what i thought |
| 21:52:35 | saratoga | but unless one of these android codecs is amazing its probably not worth the effort |
| 21:53:47 | gevaerts | wodz: it does? I don't think I've ever had problems with patches due to $id lines |
| 21:54:51 | funman | perhaps 'svn diff' remove them but not plain 'diff' ? |
| 21:55:30 | wodz | gevaerts: I had twice so far. The problem comes if You copy or rename file which contains such line already |
| 21:55:42 | simonrvn | i did see one in the arm/as3525/usb-drv-as3525v2.(c or h, not sure) |
| 21:56:02 | simonrvn | actually both |
| 21:56:17 | gevaerts | wodz: are the svn keywords set correctly? |
| 21:57:56 | wodz | gevaerts: honestly I don't know I usually use git (which by the way produce diff which is ok for git apply but not for plain diff) |
| 21:58:09 | wodz | s/plain diff/plain patch/ |
| 21:58:28 | funman | wodz: it's ok for patch -p1 , git adds a/ b/ in front of the path |
| 21:58:40 | wodz | funman: it is not |
| 21:59:21 | wodz | funman: try to apply latest patch from FS #11189 it gives rejects due to $id lines |
| 21:59:43 | wodz | funman: but git apply is happy with it |
| 21:59:52 | funman | oh ok |
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| 22:00:28 | funman | I would just remove all these $Id$ lines, they serve no purpose |
| 22:00:44 | gevaerts | they do serve a purpose |
| 22:01:17 | funman | gevaerts: which one ? |
| 22:01:36 | gevaerts | being able to see who modified a file last and when without having to leave the editor |
| 22:02:44 | funman | why would you want to know that? |
| 22:03:04 | funman | (and only that) |
| 22:03:09 | gevaerts | and the $id lines are not why those diffs don't work with plain patch anyway |
| 22:03:24 | gevaerts | funman: why do you want to remove them? |
| 22:03:36 | gevaerts | i.e. what advantage does *not* having them give you? |
| 22:03:50 | funman | no trouble when we move to git |
| 22:04:00 | gevaerts | *if* we move to git |
| 22:04:12 | funman | the 'if' was included in the 'when' ;) |
| 22:04:39 | funman | and I already experienced the problems wodz describe |
| 22:04:55 | gevaerts | Those problems are unrelated to a potential move to diff |
| 22:05:45 | gevaerts | They're purely related to using svn on the server (possibly with incorrect keywords set. That's unclear), and git-svn locally. git-svn is known to not be ideal |
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| 22:06:33 | wodz | gevaerts: I had this problem also with svn when I was preparing initial commit of HD200 port |
| 22:06:55 | gevaerts | wodz: presumably keywords were set wrong then |
| 22:07:21 | wodz | gevaerts: anyway if You know the remedy to this please share it |
| 22:07:25 | funman | there's no keywords substitution in git-svn : the line just shows up as "$Id" |
| 22:07:48 | saratoga | we should switch back to CVS |
| 22:07:55 | saratoga | problem solved |
| 22:08:07 | gevaerts | wodz: in this particular case the $id rejects are totally unimportant, they're in separate chunks anyway. The main thing is that that patch has rename lines, which are git-specific as far as I know |
| 22:08:10 | funman | wodz: manually edit files you copy so they are "$Id$" and not "$Id: XXXXX$" |
| 22:08:46 | funman | hm right |
| 22:09:04 | funman | if someone with just svn/patch wants to apply that patch he run svn cp manually first |
| 22:09:17 | gevaerts | funman: it's known that git-svn doesn't handle keywords properly. To be honest, in my view that's a problem for people who use git-svn to solve... |
| 22:09:33 | funman | gevaerts: well it doesn't handle them at all, so there's no problem |
| 22:10:48 | funman | if i use git cp, the destination file still reads "$Id$", like the original |
| 22:11:57 | gevaerts | funman: as a project we use svn, *with* keywords. If people choose not to use svn, that's perfectly fine, but it's up to them to make sure they set keywords properly |
| 22:11:58 | funman | wodz: i have git-svn version 1.7.0.4 (svn 1.6.6) and no problems with $Id$, did you copy files from an svn checkout? |
| 22:12:22 | funman | gevaerts: there's no way to set keywords from git-svn, only read them |
| 22:13:04 | gevaerts | funman: do I (or the rockbox project) have to care? That's for people who use git-svn to solve or to work around |
| 22:13:07 | wodz | funman: the same versions here |
| 22:15:12 | funman | gevaerts: work around for me is to not use keywords at all: no Id, eol-style, mime-type or whatever |
| 22:15:39 | gevaerts | funman: that's not a worlaround, that's blatantly ignoring the project's conventions |
| 22:16:29 | funman | true, i'm working around the conventions |
| 22:17:06 | funman | I wouldn't use svn props anyway if i was using standalone svn |
| 22:17:06 | wodz | What is the benefit of having keywords? |
| 22:18:04 | funman | what gevaerts said at 22:01 : i.e. not much IMO, if I want to know about a file's history I'll run git/svn log anyway to differentiate between cosmetics and functional commits |
| 22:19:59 | gevaerts | We could live without keywords, but as long as we use svn, we *need* the other properties. Not setting them *really* causes issues, and consciously not setting them is a serious problem IMHO |
| 22:21:08 | funman | which problem you have with unset properties? |
| 22:21:16 | wodz | by other properties You mean mime-type? |
| 22:21:18 | gevaerts | wrong line endings for a start |
| 22:21:51 | wodz | every modern editor I know of handle this |
| 22:22:10 | gevaerts | so? That doesn't mean that e.g. make and the shell do |
| 22:22:20 | gevaerts | These things *need* to be correct |
| 22:22:23 | wodz | that's true |
| 22:22:46 | funman | just commit the file with unix line endings |
| 22:23:23 | gevaerts | just set the properties right |
| 22:23:29 | funman | whatever works for me |
| 22:23:44 | gevaerts | That's a very nice antisocial position |
| 22:24:02 | funman | well, i don't want to break other people's build either |
| 22:24:08 | funman | what works for me works for svn users too |
| 22:25:01 | funman | i think we can all live fine without svn properties |
| 22:25:14 | gevaerts | maybe, but that's not for you to decide on your own |
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| 22:25:53 | funman | i won't set any property on the files i commit / modify because i can't do that easily |
| 22:26:12 | gevaerts | You can |
| 22:26:38 | funman | i dunno how svn:executable is needed: the executables i committed ran fine everywhere |
| 22:27:20 | gevaerts | It's not *that* hard to keep a separate pure svn checkout. That's not the preferred way (because you can't set things in the same commit), but it *does* work, and it's *not* hard |
| 22:27:32 | gevaerts | "I can't do that easily" is not an excuse, sorry |
| 22:27:46 | wodz | http://marc.info/?l=git&m=125259772625008&w=2 |
| 22:29:12 | funman | i'm certainly not having a separate svn checkout just for setting useless properties |
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| 22:33:14 | wodz | http://marc.info/?l=git&m=121645215412085 |
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| 22:36:10 | funman | wodz: both patches got no reply :/ |
| 22:36:29 | wodz | funman: from what I read If You have proper config in ~/.subversion/config git-svn will grab that and set properties on dcommit of new file |
| 22:36:51 | funman | i can do that |
| 22:38:11 | wodz | we should double check this and mention this on wiki I think |
| 22:38:58 | wodz | funman: I found this here: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/UsingGit (section Contributing) |
| 22:41:14 | funman | i added http://pastebin.org/326573 |
| 22:43:08 | wodz | it is against http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingSVN |
| 22:43:33 | wodz | it states that binary files should be mime-type application/octet-stream |
| 22:43:45 | saratoga | Buschel: FWIW android has a lot of mp3/aac with arm asm available under gplv3 compatible license (including dct) if you're still looking at that |
| 22:43:58 | funman | hm i thought viewvc used image mime types to display them in the browser |
| 22:44:36 | funman | i'll just set eol for .c/.h/Makefile |
| 22:44:53 | wodz | what eol we use? |
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| 22:45:23 | Buschel | saratoga: do you have link at hand? |
| 22:45:25 | funman | well i'd say unix |
| 22:45:48 | wodz | so setting it to native is probably wrong |
| 22:45:51 | funman | damn i'll just do nothing |
| 22:45:53 | gevaerts | I'd expect native |
| 22:45:59 | funman | easiest way to not break anything |
| 22:46:55 | wodz | gevaerts: do You have auto-props set in Your subversion config file? |
| 22:47:06 | gevaerts | no |
| 22:47:17 | gevaerts | well, not consciously |
| 22:47:43 | wodz | so what do You set *by hand*? |
| 22:48:41 | saratoga | Buschel: i was looking at this distro: http://github.com/cyanogen/android_external_opencore/tree/eclair/codecs_v2/audio |
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| 22:49:05 | saratoga | i'm not sure if its different then the official source (i have trouble finding things in git based projects) |
| 22:50:15 | gevaerts | wodz: native |
| 22:50:27 | funman | i think you can see the commits between 'snapshot of eclair' and HEAD |
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| 22:50:47 | CIA-6 | New commit by Buschel (r26821): Fix FS #111395. Call settings_apply_skins() after changing theme colours. |
| 22:51:57 | funman | http://github.com/cyanogen/android_external_opencore/blob/6a1b26991385ac003453b2570ae7fc444a9d09db/codecs_v2/audio/mp3/dec/src/asm/pvmp3_dct_16_gcc.s looks rather empty of comments :/ |
| 22:52:21 | CIA-6 | r26821 build result: All green |
| 22:52:45 | funman | ah i can see other files have commented C code |
| 22:53:23 | saratoga | it looks like the c versions of the asm code have the comments |
| 22:53:38 | saratoga | but i do wish they'd inline the c code as comments, it makes it much easier to follow |
| 22:54:17 | funman | http://github.com/cyanogen/android_external_opencore/blob/6a1b26991385ac003453b2570ae7fc444a9d09db/codecs_v2/audio/mp3/dec/src/asm/pvmp3_mdct_18_arm.s < is that what you need? |
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| 22:55:06 | saratoga | the mdct stuff is probably equivalent to what we already have |
| 22:55:20 | Buschel | the dct16 stuff may be of interest |
| 22:55:23 | saratoga | was mostly wondering about the dct, but looking at the asm it doesn't look all that clever |
| 22:55:28 | saratoga | no ldm at all |
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| 22:55:35 | saratoga | which is probably a bad sign for arm7tdmi |
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| 22:55:43 | funman | copyright says 1998 so it might be quite old code |
| 22:55:49 | saratoga | do cortex cpus not need ldm or something |
| 22:56:22 | wodz | time() to sleep() |
| 22:56:23 | saratoga | i'm a little surprised the built in android codecs aren't better optimized |
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| 22:56:41 | saratoga | maybe the open source ones are jsut fallbacks and OEMs include binary decoders? |
| 22:57:32 | funman | quite possible |
| 22:59:05 | Buschel | hmm, the android decoder uses just another (not before seen) way to perform the filterbank synthesis... |
| 22:59:57 | rasher | Why does rockboxdev run make -j8!? |
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| 23:00:02 | rasher | rockboxdev.sh |
| 23:00:05 | funman | because zagor is evil! |
| 23:00:12 | rasher | Clearly |
| 23:00:23 | gevaerts | evil or just crazy? :) |
| 23:00:25 | * | rasher tells everyone about MAKEFLAGS |
| 23:00:29 | funman | less than Bagder, who used make -j |
| 23:01:03 | rasher | Surely it should not set any -j? |
| 23:01:28 | funman | nope, perhaps make the -j option an argument of the script |
| 23:01:45 | The_Seven | saratoga: maybe those things are just fast enough that nobody cares any more? |
| 23:01:46 | rasher | funman: you can already do MAKEFLAGS="-j8" ./rockboxdev.sh |
| 23:02:04 | rasher | That is, if we weren't overriding it |
| 23:02:26 | Buschel | saratoga: the dct16 is a dct variant of the formerly used mpc dct32. seems like androids 2xdtc16() and the following merge_in_place_N32() equals our implementation (merged to on single dct32 function). |
| 23:03:01 | saratoga | so nothing worth taking then? |
| 23:04:50 | Buschel | saratoga: I don't think so. so dct16 asm looks like just direct translation of c to asm. nothing special. neverhteless: maybe we should try to do the same with our dct? did you take a look at the gcc results? |
| 23:05:13 | saratoga | no i haven't looked much at rockbox in the last week |
| 23:06:01 | saratoga | was mostly looking at android because i wondered what arm NEON code looked like, but it seems they don't use it |
| 23:06:35 | funman | ffmpeg has some neon code |
| 23:08:47 | CIA-6 | New commit by rasher (r26822): Don't explicitly set -j for make. Inform the user that he can set MAKEFLAGS instead. |
| 23:09:28 | saratoga | the neon gcc intrinsics look neat: http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/development.git;a=blob;f=ndk/apps/hello-neon/project/jni/helloneon-intrinsics.c;h=35367c1702f899ae8ccfe2e819db2dfe9afae185;hb=693ad65e24cefe3d60d3702e6adab13d18b121ba |
| 23:10:18 | CIA-6 | r26822 build result: All green |
| 23:11:59 | saratoga | i hope this android rockbox thing works out |
| 23:12:06 | saratoga | i kind of want to try this stuff out |
| 23:12:27 | funman | gigabeast can do NEON ? |
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| 23:13:09 | saratoga | no just vfp i think |
| 23:15:19 | funman | hm why is the mention on USB mode setting only for fuzev1 & clip+ in the manual |
| 23:16:20 | funman | ah no, steps for other players are just above, only fuzev2 is missing |
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| 23:16:33 | saratoga | yeah looks like cortex is where neon starts |
| 23:17:05 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r26823): fuzev2 manual: mention the USB OF setting |
| 23:18:39 | CIA-6 | r26823 build result: All green |
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