| 00:11:41 | Buschel | saratoga: the disassemled code for the mpc dct (compiled with eabi) doesn't look too bad. nothing really obvious that could be further optimized (except maybe one or two ldm) |
| 00:12:47 | saratoga | is it much different then what libmad uses? |
| 00:13:52 | Buschel | saratoga: no. it is nearly identical. mpc uses a 64-value output (mirroring) of the calculated 32 values |
| 00:14:16 | Buschel | saratoga: this is to avoid the even/odd handling in the dewindowing |
| 00:15:29 | Buschel | saratoga: btw, maybe for >ARM4 it might be possible to rearrange ldr/ldm's a bit. in general the code would be hard to maintain... |
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| 00:16:29 | saratoga | would it be possible to efficiently reorder the coefficients before they get to synth_filter so that more of them could use ldm? |
| 00:16:43 | saratoga | well i guess that would mostly just help armv4, and thats not much use at this point |
| 00:17:13 | Buschel | I thought about this and found no solution |
| 00:22:30 | saratoga | google says mad_bit_read uses a fair amount of time, so maybe thats an option |
| 00:31:44 | bertrik | funman, I got 10:59:00 runtime on my clipv1 today with a eabi+thumb build, very nearly the same as before |
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| 00:56:48 | The_Seven | Zagor (for the logs): Not that it would really matter, but one could maybe suppress or change the "All green" message for the case where a build isn't even started, because only some irrelevant files were changed |
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| 01:28:08 | will | "(arm-elf-eabi-gcc) is not in your path!" −− is this new? What package do I have to install? (Ubuntu) |
| 01:29:37 | Jerom | will: launch rockboxdev.sh |
| 01:29:42 | Jerom | And build eabi |
| 01:30:37 | will | won't rockboxdev.sh redo the entire installation? Can't I just install one package? |
| 01:31:00 | Jerom | It isn't a missing package |
| 01:31:15 | Jerom | I just that the toolchain changed for some target |
| 01:32:05 | will | thanks |
| 01:34:55 | will | ./rockboxdev.sh gets me this −−−− Please install "makeinfo" and re-run the script. −−- I don't see "makeinfo" in synaptic |
| 01:35:14 | bertrik | will, install texinfo |
| 01:36:41 | will | ok thanks |
| 01:37:09 | Buschel | saratoga: Just took a look at mad_bit_read(). It seems like the data buffer is organized in uint-packets. mad_bit_reader() calls betoh32() to resort to little endian each time. This is inefficient. betoh32() needs to be called only once for each new uint-adress. |
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| 01:39:24 | Buschel | saratoga: We could add two variables: first holds the last uint-buffer index and the second holds the last betoh32'ed value. A similar approach was added to mpc's sv8 bitstream reader to reduce memory accesses to DRAM on Coldfire. |
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| 01:40:57 | Buschel | saratoga: The code would avoid to call betoh32(), if the data of the wanted address has already been converted. |
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| 01:49:17 | Buschel | saratoga: quick-n-dirty approach (not compiled, not tested) -> http://www.pastebin.org/326820 |
| 01:49:39 | saratoga | Buschel: nice! |
| 01:51:08 | Buschel | maybe you find time for test? I am too tired now and will better go to bed... |
| 01:52:43 | saratoga | i'm compiling now |
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| 01:54:06 | saratoga | Buschel: did this compile for you? |
| 01:55:04 | saratoga | ah last value shouldn't be a pointer i guess |
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| 02:02:44 | saratoga | Buschel: 27.89 MHz on PP5024 w/o COP |
| 02:02:48 | saratoga | sorry 37.89 |
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| 02:07:30 | saratoga | Buschel: 37.60MHz without the patch |
| 02:08:05 | saratoga | not sure why it got slower, ARM is LE so it should save shifting |
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| 02:11:38 | saratoga | aduio sounds fine though |
| 02:13:44 | saratoga | anyway i have to go, but my random guess would be some kind of gcc weirdness, since the call to swap32 should be a lot slower then adding a single branch |
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| 02:44:00 | masterrogue | hi room, i have a question about compatibility with rockbox and my player |
| 02:45:17 | masterrogue | ive got a sansa e260 v2. the site has a link for the installer, but everywhere else it says its not supported. anyone in here get it to work on a v2? i'd really rather not brick my player |
| 02:52:45 | mc2739 | masterrogue: the e260v2 is supported as a stable target |
| 02:53:56 | mc2739 | masterrogue: where does it say it is not supported? (so that we can fix it) |
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| 03:06:24 | masterrogue | umm, just a second, ill post the link |
| 03:10:19 | masterrogue | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaC200Port |
| 03:10:52 | masterrogue | first line: " Rockbox doesn't function on the v2 models. The v1 hardware uses firmware named 01.xx.xx, while the v2 hardware uses firmware beginning with 03. This version number can be retrieved under Settings->Info." |
| 03:11:55 | masterrogue | ...woops, as i look at the actual link * facepalm* my bad, ive been looking at the wrong page for months, my bad |
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| 03:15:29 | masterrogue | thanks for the help anyway mc |
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| 04:25:50 | * | JdGordon wonders why his new parse tree walker doesnt hit any TAG elements :( |
| 04:27:15 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26824): count line numbers correctly, handle the VIEWPORT change so it only ever has one child |
| 04:28:58 | CIA-6 | r26824 build result: All green |
| 04:30:49 | JdGordon | bieber: please be awake :D |
| 04:33:06 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon: skinupdater.exe is still valid/returns valid syntax...right? |
| 04:33:24 | JdGordon | svn will yes |
| 04:34:08 | S_a_i_n_t | Hmmmm, I have the sim bitching about lines it *really* shouldn;t be :/ No real time now, I'll get back to you later about it when I've found out more. |
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| 04:43:09 | JdGordon | bieber: I dont know how you've done it, but there seems to be a bug in the parser which is giving TAG elements the vIEWPORT type, and the editor doesnt seem to mind? |
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| 04:46:57 | JdGordon | bieber: p *line->children[0]->next->next->next->tag |
| 04:46:57 | JdGordon | $33 = {type = SKIN_TOKEN_DISABLE_THEME, name = 0x403b64 "wd", params = 0x4039f3 ""} |
| 04:46:58 | JdGordon | ^ WTF? that should be a TAG type... (do make in utils/newparser and ./newparser cabbie<tab>) |
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| 05:02:32 | JdGordon | damn, found the issue... skin_allow_element() doesnt init a value for element->type, and it happens that type == 0 here which is VIEWPORT |
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| 05:02:34 | JdGordon | which is a bug |
| 05:03:06 | JdGordon | curious that it doesnt effect the themeeditor though |
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| 05:13:03 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26825): initialise the element->type value so TAG types dont accidently get VIEWPORT if it element->type == 0 at alloc time |
| 05:14:36 | CIA-6 | r26825 build result: All green |
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| 05:46:27 | brewmster | can rockbox on Sansa fuze v1 handle a micro SDHC card with an ext3 filesystem on it? |
| 05:46:31 | JdGordon | no |
| 05:46:41 | brewmster | JdGordon, only vfat? |
| 05:47:07 | saratoga | correct |
| 05:47:23 | brewmster | ok thanks |
| 05:47:41 | brewmster | just installed rb yesterday−−pretty cool stuff |
| 05:50:36 | * | simonrvn likes rockbox a lot |
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| 06:04:32 | bieber | JdGordon: Sorry, I'll be back tomorrow night |
| 06:04:32 | bieber | Busy weekend |
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| 06:40:09 | brewmster | anyone here ever have any troubles with micro sdhc cards? mine keeps messing up when i try to transfer files to it |
| 06:41:05 | brewmster | i've had "input / output error" with it twice now |
| 06:41:53 | brewmster | after the first time, I did a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sde1 to it and then mkfs.vfat to make a new fs |
| 06:42:05 | * | S_a_i_n_t assumes this is a rockbox specific problem....? |
| 06:42:09 | S_a_i_n_t | ...or hopes so. |
| 06:42:20 | brewmster | doubtful |
| 06:42:57 | S_a_i_n_t | what I mean is, are you asking because you want to use it in rockbox? Being a rockbox dev/support channel and all... |
| 06:43:45 | brewmster | ah, yes |
| 06:44:03 | brewmster | i've already tried it in rb |
| 06:44:09 | brewmster | and it works fine |
| 06:44:56 | S_a_i_n_t | then, this isn't the place to ask for support. if it works with RB, that's great, if not working elsewhere...then this isn;t really the right place for support. |
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| 08:47:52 | saratoga | Buschel: ping |
| 08:49:10 | Buschel | pong |
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| 08:51:01 | Buschel | saratoga: I just see my last night's idea makes arm slower? maybe I can find some time today to further look into this... |
| 08:54:09 | saratoga | ok was just checking if you saw that |
| 08:54:41 | saratoga | do you have any idea how big the average read is? |
| 08:54:56 | saratoga | i wonder if the common case takes most of the word, and so the cache does little |
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| 09:01:08 | Buschel | I would expect an average read of (much) smaller than 16 bits. so, it should be more efficient to buffer. I will try to measure this on a small sample file |
| 09:02:30 | Buschel | I'll be off for a while now. see you latere |
| 09:02:34 | Buschel | *later |
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| 09:21:16 | * | JdGordon wonders what the heck to do about all these tags which no longer eat the \n in the skin files |
| 09:21:26 | JdGordon | which will cause problems when we move to the new parser |
| 09:22:24 | JdGordon | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=25056.0 |
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| 09:26:04 | * | S_a_i_n_t seems to lean more toward the "Another possible option is if the line has any of a set of tags it will never cause a new line? Then we only need to get the list of such tags (pretty easy to find)..." side of things...maybe. |
| 09:35:38 | JdGordon | yeah, I tihnk i like that one best also |
| 09:36:02 | S_a_i_n_t | I have a WPS problem... |
| 09:36:27 | S_a_i_n_t | run skinupdater, the sim flakes on every subline. |
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| 09:37:03 | S_a_i_n_t | has the syntax changed for sublines? |
| 09:37:29 | S_a_i_n_t | what's wrong with "%t(5.00) %Vd(a)%Vd(b);%t(5.00) %Vd(c)%?mv<%Vd(b)|%Vd(d)>"? |
| 09:37:33 | * | S_a_i_n_t sees nothing... |
| 09:38:51 | JdGordon | no thats correct |
| 09:39:08 | JdGordon | what is winging? |
| 09:39:36 | S_a_i_n_t | the output doesn;t match...as usual, but only commenting out the sublines fixes it :/ |
| 09:39:49 | S_a_i_n_t | shall I pastebinerooney? |
| 09:39:57 | JdGordon | doesnt match what? |
| 09:40:11 | JdGordon | it parses correctly in the editor which means it is correct |
| 09:40:16 | JdGordon | and the tree looks correct |
| 09:40:34 | JdGordon | the sooner I scrap the old code the better /me thinks |
| 09:40:39 | S_a_i_n_t | "ERR: Failed parsing on line 72 : ERR: Invalid parameter list for token 11: "volume" " |
| 09:40:47 | S_a_i_n_t | I mean, what the hell does that even mean?!? |
| 09:40:59 | S_a_i_n_t | btw...it's not even line 72. |
| 09:41:19 | JdGordon | ignore the debug output.. it goes totally mental now :) |
| 09:41:46 | S_a_i_n_t | the SIM HATES it, and apparently checkwps does too, as it fails there...well, when rasher tried to update it for me. |
| 09:41:49 | JdGordon | pastebin the whole skin? |
| 09:42:02 | S_a_i_n_t | yeppers. one sec. |
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| 09:44:58 | S_a_i_n_t | http://www.datafilehost.com/download-deb90585.html |
| 09:45:05 | JdGordon | that isnt pastebin! |
| 09:46:06 | JdGordon | I jut wanted to look at the skin in the editor |
| 09:46:36 | S_a_i_n_t | yesterday I got all pissy trying to debug it, I attempted to get rasher to replace the zip on the themesite as the script missed it, then I handed him this theme and he said it failed checkwps on line 62, I have no idea if that was .sbs or .wps though. Interestingly, both the sbs and wps gave the same line 62 error in the sim. |
| 09:46:44 | S_a_i_n_t | methinks checkwps is broken? |
| 09:46:55 | JdGordon | shouldn't be |
| 09:47:17 | JdGordon | WPS fails |
| 09:47:31 | S_a_i_n_t | the sim gave the exact same output he got re: line 62, but for both .sbs and wps |
| 09:47:44 | S_a_i_n_t | the sbs does even have code at line 62 IIRC |
| 09:48:10 | S_a_i_n_t | yeah, I get the sbs to load *today*, I couldn't on yesterdays sim though. |
| 09:48:43 | S_a_i_n_t | the wps is fine if I comment out the sublines around line 60. |
| 09:49:30 | JdGordon | both pass the new parser so meh :) |
| 09:49:42 | S_a_i_n_t | AAAArrrgh! |
| 09:49:49 | S_a_i_n_t | but it failed checkwps!?! |
| 09:50:09 | JdGordon | yeah, lame aye? |
| 09:50:15 | S_a_i_n_t | this also makes the sim essentially useless...so, it;s a little more than "meh" ;) |
| 09:50:31 | S_a_i_n_t | well, useless for me :P |
| 09:50:52 | S_a_i_n_t | debug output, useless..parsing...useless :P |
| 09:50:55 | JdGordon | the sbs works, it is the wps with the error |
| 09:51:07 | S_a_i_n_t | *Ahem* "error" |
| 09:51:39 | S_a_i_n_t | I haven't actually tried it on target. I trusted the sim too much. |
| 09:51:50 | S_a_i_n_t | but, I also trusted checkwps. |
| 09:52:06 | JdGordon | you really want such a short timeout? |
| 09:52:14 | S_a_i_n_t | yep. |
| 09:52:19 | S_a_i_n_t | the theme needs it. |
| 09:52:29 | S_a_i_n_t | well, as short as it can possibly be. |
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| 09:52:44 | S_a_i_n_t | otherwise the animation looks awful. |
| 09:52:44 | JdGordon | i gtg, I'll help you in a couple hours |
| 09:52:51 | S_a_i_n_t | no problem. |
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| 10:11:52 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon: You said the theme editor parses the theme correctly? I figured out the problem...but, it means that the skinupdater is broken. And, possibly the theme editor as well. |
| 10:12:00 | S_a_i_n_t | Gimme a yell when you get back. |
| 10:12:37 | S_a_i_n_t | Actually, not possibly...if it parses it correctly, then it *is* broken. |
| 10:20:18 | Buschel | saratoga: new libmad patch -> http://www.pastebin.org/327529 |
| 10:20:59 | Buschel | saratoga: the patch contains a small printf-debugging/-measuring and another caching (loading next dword) |
| 10:22:41 | Buschel | saratoga: on my sample file I get the following results: a=83k, b=2000k, c=900k (hits). that means in total there were 983k calls of betoh32() against 2000k cached accesses or against 2983k betoh() in an unpatched environment. |
| 10:23:07 | Buschel | saratoga: so, in total the betoh()-calls are reduced to 1/3 |
| 10:23:48 | Buschel | will test on target now |
| 10:27:31 | Buschel | saratoga: a test on a Coldfire target could be interesting, too. I am not sure whether the bitstream is kept in IRAM or not... |
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| 10:35:14 | showfiles | General Settings > File View > Show Path > "Off" is this setting supposed to remove the path from all screens ? |
| 10:35:48 | S_a_i_n_t | it's suposed to only show the last part of the patch IIUC |
| 10:36:17 | S_a_i_n_t | ie. if it was ./rockbox/path/thing it should dhow "thing" |
| 10:36:23 | S_a_i_n_t | *show |
| 10:36:43 | showfiles | well it doesn't show the path when in files, but does show path elsewhere, I thought that "Off" was global |
| 10:37:29 | showfiles | no diaplay of path anytime |
| 10:37:42 | S_a_i_n_t | what screens doesn't it show the path in? |
| 10:37:52 | showfiles | when in Files |
| 10:37:54 | S_a_i_n_t | or...does...rather |
| 10:38:03 | S_a_i_n_t | everything except files? |
| 10:38:10 | showfiles | yes |
| 10:39:18 | S_a_i_n_t | Hmmm...actually, what I was thinking of was 'Current Directory Only" |
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| 10:40:52 | S_a_i_n_t | wait...are you considering the "Rockbox" "Settings" etc. as the "Path"? |
| 10:40:56 | showfiles | the "Off" option doesn't really tie up with what really happens, what does "Off' really mean, current only or global |
| 10:41:06 | S_a_i_n_t | it should *only* apply to "Files" |
| 10:41:55 | S_a_i_n_t | the title and the path are totally different things...if you're mixing the two up. |
| 10:42:46 | showfiles | perhpas i am, the directory title, is that = path |
| 10:43:14 | S_a_i_n_t | yep. |
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| 10:43:41 | S_a_i_n_t | the rest, like when you enter settings and it says "Settings" for example...that's totally different. |
| 10:44:01 | S_a_i_n_t | You can only remove that by editing the .sbs |
| 10:44:08 | Buschel | saratoga: slightly slower with patched version... (37.0 MHz against 37.15 MHz). I am confused |
| 10:44:21 | showfiles | ok, so is the "Off" option supposed to only remove the directory title from the files directory |
| 10:44:27 | S_a_i_n_t | add %?Lt<> to the .sbs, and it will turn those off. |
| 10:44:41 | S_a_i_n_t | to your last question, yes. |
| 10:44:53 | showfiles | thanks |
| 10:45:00 | S_a_i_n_t | No problem |
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| 10:46:27 | Buschel | can somebody with a Coldfire target please make a short test_codec run with a mp3 file. svn against patch with http://www.pastebin.org/327554 ? |
| 10:49:56 | bertrik | \o\ |o| /o/ Radio receives a station on my rockboxed clip+ with mystery radio chip :) |
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| 11:03:51 | JdGordon| | S_a_i_n_t: oh? |
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| 11:04:57 | S_a_i_n_t | yeppers...the sim seems to hate %t(x.xx) (it has to be "%t(x.x)" |
| 11:05:30 | S_a_i_n_t | and, that'll be where checkwps is failing I assume, but your parser doesn;t seem to mind it. |
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| 11:05:43 | S_a_i_n_t | s/your parser/theme editor/ |
| 11:06:12 | S_a_i_n_t | it took me *so* looooong to figure that out :/ |
| 11:06:21 | JdGordon| | i dunno why x.xx should fail |
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| 11:06:47 | S_a_i_n_t | I've verified it...that's why the sim is failing. |
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| 11:07:33 | S_a_i_n_t | I can make the whole theme bork just by adding an extra digit after the decimal point on a single subline timeout. |
| 11:08:04 | S_a_i_n_t | skinupdater.exe didn;t pick up on it, I assume because it isn;t supposed to not work. |
| 11:10:07 | JdGordon| | wierd. i dint see why it should fail |
| 11:10:33 | S_a_i_n_t | %t(x.xx) used to be totally valid syntax, and from your reaction I assume it still *should* be? |
| 11:11:10 | S_a_i_n_t | damn it took me a long time to figure it out though... :/ |
| 11:11:53 | S_a_i_n_t | the (rather comical) debug output from the sim had a slight hand in that though l) |
| 11:12:08 | JdGordon| | ok ill look into it later... |
| 11:12:10 | S_a_i_n_t | s/l)/:D/ |
| 11:12:47 | S_a_i_n_t | sweet, just letting you know I figured it out. Hope I saved you *some* time, though perhaps I just handed you more work... |
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| 11:20:51 | S_a_i_n_t | Ohh! ohh! JdGordon: One more thing...and alignment tag before %mv(x.x) fails to parse also ie. "%ar%?mv(x.x)<blah|blah>"...if *this* is expected or not, I have no idea. |
| 11:21:03 | S_a_i_n_t | I seem to remember it working in the past also. |
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| 12:03:11 | Buschel | could someone with Coldfire target please test FS #11398? |
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| 12:15:53 | S_a_i_n_t | Hahahah! S_a_i_n_t is on a roll... |
| 12:16:20 | * | S_a_i_n_t discovers that even if it's in a theme config, that the SIM won't load a .kbd file. |
| 12:16:43 | S_a_i_n_t | and if a .kbd file is loaded manually, that it won;y unload after the sim settings are reset. |
| 12:16:58 | S_a_i_n_t | s/won;y/won't/ |
| 12:17:24 | S_a_i_n_t | when did the sim get so....for lack of a better word, useless? |
| 12:24:08 | S_a_i_n_t | hmmm...if a theme that doesn;t use icons is loaded in the sim, then one that *does* is loaded, the icons won't show either. |
| 12:27:27 | S_a_i_n_t | the only thing that seems to get icons displaying after that is "reset settings" :? |
| 12:27:47 | S_a_i_n_t | I don't recall it being this broken in the past... |
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| 12:41:02 | dfkt | do i understand it correctly that %we enables an .sbs status bar, and %wi enables the default one? |
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| 12:51:33 | S_a_i_n_t | dfkt: %we enables *any* status bar, %wd disables it....%wi draws the inbuilt status bar in the "current viewport" |
| 12:53:46 | S_a_i_n_t | and, for the record...all status bars are .sbs now. |
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| 13:04:10 | dfkt | thanks, S_a_i_n_t (i also just noticed that classic_statusbar.sbs still uses the old syntax, no wonder i can't load it...) |
| 13:04:28 | S_a_i_n_t | it does!?! |
| 13:04:32 | S_a_i_n_t | what target...? |
| 13:04:41 | dfkt | x5, current build, and current simulator |
| 13:05:02 | S_a_i_n_t | well, that just simply should't be. |
| 13:05:10 | dfkt | ah :) |
| 13:05:21 | S_a_i_n_t | thanks for sharing that. good to know. |
| 13:06:10 | S_a_i_n_t | when you say "current sim", you built it? |
| 13:06:18 | dfkt | no, i downloaded if from rasher's site |
| 13:06:33 | S_a_i_n_t | aha...that's a 3.6 sim. |
| 13:06:42 | S_a_i_n_t | none if that will be in current syntax. |
| 13:06:55 | S_a_i_n_t | s/current/SVN/ |
| 13:07:14 | S_a_i_n_t | well, depending which link you followed, it could even be 3.5 |
| 13:07:27 | dfkt | i upgraded the firmware it runs to r26813 |
| 13:07:39 | S_a_i_n_t | you can't "upgrade" a sim. |
| 13:07:39 | rasher | S_a_i_n_t: Only if he downloaded the 3.6 version. |
| 13:08:11 | rasher | S_a_i_n_t: I have both current and release sims |
| 13:08:32 | dfkt | i didn't download the 3.6 release sim, i downloaded a current revision build |
| 13:09:03 | S_a_i_n_t | what does "[23:07] <dfkt> i upgraded the firmware it runs to r26813" mean? |
| 13:09:09 | S_a_i_n_t | that kinda threw me. |
| 13:09:19 | The_Seven | **** Target ipodnano2g is using non EABI compiler ! |
| 13:09:20 | The_Seven | why? |
| 13:09:21 | dfkt | i just checked the system info in the sim, that's what it shows |
| 13:09:33 | dfkt | maybe i didn't upgrade it then |
| 13:09:47 | dfkt | mabye that was the downloaded sim revision |
| 13:09:58 | rasher | S_a_i_n_t: if you unzip over the sim dir, that's in effect upgrading a sim. |
| 13:10:53 | S_a_i_n_t | sweet as, just made me think you'd tried to "upgrade" the sim...which, isn't possible ;) |
| 13:11:39 | S_a_i_n_t | rasher: If you write over a sim with another sim...of course. It sounded to me like a target build had been applied to a sim, just checking. |
| 13:13:05 | dfkt | to clarify/confuse more, this is what i see in classic_statusbar.sbs - http://pastie.org/1002478 |
| 13:13:13 | dfkt | i assume that's old syntax? |
| 13:14:44 | S_a_i_n_t | you're correct. |
| 13:15:04 | S_a_i_n_t | and, this came with the sim? |
| 13:15:18 | dfkt | it's also in the current firmware build i just downloaded, not only the sim |
| 13:16:11 | dfkt | current meaning r26825, directly from build.rockbox.org |
| 13:16:57 | S_a_i_n_t | wow...what the hell?!? that *IS* old syntax. |
| 13:17:04 | S_a_i_n_t | yet, it runs on device here. |
| 13:17:12 | dfkt | i'm afraid it's in the clip+ build too... |
| 13:17:36 | S_a_i_n_t | I believe you, it's in my nano 1st/2nd gen build also. |
| 13:17:50 | S_a_i_n_t | why does it run on device though? |
| 13:19:05 | dfkt | maybe it uses the old "hardcoded"(?) status bar, not the .sbs? |
| 13:19:20 | dfkt | %we doesn't show anything on the sim, %wi does |
| 13:19:34 | dfkt | yet %we works on my real x5 |
| 13:19:46 | S_a_i_n_t | AFAIK there is no "hardcoded" .sbs anymore. |
| 13:20:26 | S_a_i_n_t | that change was made a while ago, that's the reason there's "classic_statusbar" |
| 13:21:21 | S_a_i_n_t | No ifs/buts/or maybes...this just simply shouldn't be. |
| 13:21:33 | S_a_i_n_t | not only that, it shouldn;t *work* :/ |
| 13:21:48 | dfkt | heh |
| 13:21:54 | * | S_a_i_n_t is more than a little confused. |
| 13:22:19 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon: ^^ |
| 13:26:37 | S_a_i_n_t | I'm trying to se if I'm insane/confused or not...but I can run this old syntaxed classic_statusbar.sbs on sim and on device. |
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| 13:32:58 | S_a_i_n_t | Hmmm, ok, I am slightly insane I think. Now the SIM *is* rejecting it. |
| 13:34:20 | S_a_i_n_t | which is, good? I think there must still be an inbuilt .sbs, but I was under the impression that there was no inbuilt .sbs and that was the reason there was "classic_statusbar" |
| 13:34:48 | S_a_i_n_t | Despite that wee messup of mine, it still shouldn;t be in the old syntax. |
| 13:35:10 | dfkt | i checked, the built in one was in apps/gui/gwps-common.c.. which doesn't exist in current revisions |
| 13:35:34 | S_a_i_n_t | that doesn't mean it's not somewhere else though ;) |
| 13:35:37 | dfkt | heh |
| 13:35:46 | S_a_i_n_t | it *has* to be getting it from somewhere...right? |
| 13:37:05 | dfkt | ah, there's statusbar.c too |
| 13:37:26 | S_a_i_n_t | and the sim is now failing on line 7 (which really means line 8), which makes sense...that's the first line of code, in old syntax" |
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| 15:10:19 | JdGordon | S_a_i_n_t: ok back |
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| 15:16:43 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26826): update classic_statusbar to the new syntax |
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| 15:18:16 | CIA-6 | r26826 build result: All green |
| 15:23:37 | JdGordon | bieber: (thinking loudly so ignore if you are sick of the parser)... in parse_viewport you check to see if the line will have sublines, and then if it does you do the same code to count how many are there. Why not always call parse_subline() (so dont check if it is needed) and then in that if sublines == 1 (so no ;'s) change to the parse_line instead? |
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| 15:32:43 | kugel | The_Seven: someone needs to check if eabi works and commit the changes to configure and the build file |
| 15:32:58 | kugel | (re: why no eabi on ipodnano2g) |
| 15:34:42 | funman | https://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2010-June/090531.html [FFmpeg-devel] [CHECKLIST] what is preventing us from switch to git |
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| 15:36:34 | funman | http://mailman.videolan.org/pipermail/vlc-devel/2008-February/039627.html [vlc-devel] Switching to git (this thread seems to not contain any flamewar, just technical details on the switch from svn to git) |
| 15:39:25 | JdGordon | for the record I wouldnt really have any problems if every switched to git... the learning curve is annoyingly steep though to get the the point where it actually has a benefit over svn |
| 15:41:01 | The_Seven | kugel: IIRC i confirmed that it worked during the transition |
| 15:45:20 | CIA-6 | New commit by theseven (r26827): Switch ipodnano2g to eabi in /www/buildserver/builds |
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| 15:46:25 | CIA-6 | New commit by theseven (r26828): SSwitch ipodnano2g to eabi in /trunk/tools/configure |
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| 15:48:03 | CIA-6 | r26828 build result: All green |
| 15:49:07 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r26829): Buildserver: build cowond2 with eabi |
| 15:49:12 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r26830): build cowond2 and iaudio7 with EABI, they aren't stable |
| 15:50:09 | * | funman looks for b0hoon |
| 15:50:42 | funman | amiconn: did you test all the ipods still building with gcc 4.0.3 ? what's the problem with them, stack overflow iirc ? |
| 15:50:51 | CIA-6 | r26830 build result: 0 errors, 2 warnings (funman) |
| 15:50:59 | funman | \o/ |
| 15:54:02 | funman | not sure what i should do here: make the code do what the comment says, at the risk of breaking cowond2 lcd ? |
| 15:54:36 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26831): get the renderer working more better! "handle" sublines correctly, dont "draw" in the first viewport if we are using viewports, get rid of the idea of ... |
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| 15:56:06 | CIA-6 | r26831 build result: 0 errors, 2 warnings (jdgordon) |
| 15:56:13 | kugel | JdGordon: how many parsers do we need? |
| 15:56:18 | funman | JdGordon: fix your yellow! |
| 15:56:19 | JdGordon | 6! |
| 15:56:25 | JdGordon | haha |
| 15:57:00 | kugel | JdGordon: what is newparser for? I thought the theme editor's parser was the way to go? |
| 15:57:23 | JdGordon | kugel: the way it works is text -> new parser -> awesome text target independant parse tree -> middle ground to make it target specific and build "tokens" which are useful -> renderer |
| 15:57:28 | JdGordon | OH, no thats just my playground |
| 15:57:34 | JdGordon | git is too hard :p |
| 15:57:48 | JdGordon | bassically I'm building the new renderer outside of the core to make sure it works |
| 15:57:56 | JdGordon | once it is mostly done it will be copied in |
| 15:58:12 | JdGordon | this is to replace skin_parser.c and skin_display.c and the .h's |
| 15:58:59 | kugel | so the themeeditor's parser won't be used? |
| 15:59:05 | JdGordon | it will be |
| 15:59:09 | JdGordon | I am using it directly |
| 15:59:32 | JdGordon | the code in that folder is after it goes through the parser |
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| 16:00:07 | JdGordon | it would be pretty slly if we wernt using the new parser :p |
| 16:00:23 | kugel | oh ok |
| 16:00:32 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r26832): cowond2: make the code consistent with the comments and really clear the bits ... |
| 16:00:56 | kugel | JdGordon: "dont "draw" in the first viewport if we are using viewports" isn't this allowed currently (except for sbs)? |
| 16:01:09 | JdGordon | no |
| 16:01:17 | JdGordon | this is explicitly not allowed |
| 16:01:33 | JdGordon | we go through the viewport but not draw anything |
| 16:01:57 | The_Seven | Bagder: Have a Mydoom worm? |
| 16:02:04 | * | kugel misremembers then |
| 16:02:10 | CIA-6 | r26832 build result: All green |
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| 16:03:14 | JdGordon | kugel: maybe misunderstood... if any viewports are defined then the default viewport isnt drawn |
| 16:03:46 | kugel | yea, in my memory it was drawn in the wps but not in the sbs |
| 16:04:48 | kugel | ah, the default vp in the sbs gets the VP_NEVER_VISIBLE flag, in the wps this doesn't happen |
| 16:05:48 | * | kugel now thinks he remembers correctly |
| 16:06:15 | JdGordon | hows RaaA giong? still going th android route? |
| 16:06:51 | kugel | quick topic change? |
| 16:07:23 | kugel | it's going good I think, although I'm busy with uni-work currently. yes, android is planned |
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| 16:13:38 | funman | bertrik: can you test http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11330?string=clip on your clipv1 ? |
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| 16:25:08 | JdGordon | is it better to case a void* to a intptr_t and use it as an int? or alloc a int and store the pointer there? |
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| 16:25:46 | funman | cast |
| 16:26:03 | funman | int could be too small to hold a pointer, but not intptr_t |
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| 16:26:58 | JdGordon | the struct member is a void* |
| 16:27:09 | JdGordon | I just need to store some flags there |
| 16:28:04 | funman | flags in a pointer ? Oo |
| 16:28:29 | JdGordon | void* data;... most types store a struct * there, I only need an int here |
| 16:28:31 | JdGordon | for this one |
| 16:28:52 | funman | what about using an union? |
| 16:29:30 | JdGordon | meh, I'll just do it safewly and add a struct, saves doing &'s later also |
| 16:33:26 | kugel | I'd use a union too |
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| 16:40:14 | * | JdGordon has line eating tags working :) |
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| 16:42:11 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26833): Start dealing with LINE elements... setup a flag which lets tags tell the renderer to not start a new line in the viewport (i.e %we/d/i %X/x/xd etc) |
| 16:42:49 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r26834): duh, this is needed also |
| 16:43:58 | CIA-6 | r26833 build result: All green |
| 16:45:31 | CIA-6 | r26834 build result: All green |
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| 16:59:09 | bertrik | funman, I'll have a look, anything specific I should look at? |
| 16:59:28 | funman | bertrik: nope, i just wanted to know if it has a real effect on battery life |
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| 17:00:32 | bertrik | ok, I think I'll start a battery bench tonight and let you know tomorrow |
| 17:01:37 | bertrik | by the way, the clipv1 battery benchmark I did after the recent eabi + thumb changes showed no significant difference (about 1 min in 11 hours) |
| 17:02:21 | funman | yeah i've seen that, perhaps memory use doesn't affect battery a lot |
| 17:02:26 | bertrik | quite remarkable actually that they got so close |
| 17:02:43 | funman | codec speed is almost the same for thumb & arm |
| 17:03:56 | bertrik | I have basic tuning working now for my clip+ |
| 17:04:27 | Bagder | The_Seven: as if those mails come from me... |
| 17:05:33 | kugel | The_Seven: why not make the commit then? |
| 17:05:42 | The_Seven | kugel: I've already done that |
| 17:06:24 | * | The_Seven still wonders where they could come from, especially how that friggin' worm could have found out about the list |
| 17:06:34 | kugel | The_Seven: oh, overlooked that |
| 17:11:08 | Bagder | mails and worms do that all the time, I've stopped wondering. I see my email used like that every day |
| 17:13:39 | * | kugel wonders what this worm talk is about |
| 17:14:45 | Bagder | a mail that was sent with my From: adress to rockbox-dev |
| 17:14:58 | Bagder | it included an .exe |
| 17:15:12 | Bagder | infected with a worm |
| 17:15:50 | kugel | oh, I didn't get that mail, only Mosner's reply |
| 17:16:11 | Bagder | yeah, I had the same experience |
| 17:17:31 | Bagder | but the mail archive shows it |
| 17:18:41 | Llorean | I didn't get it either. I assume a lot of us have filters that just snagged it for us. |
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| 17:32:14 | The_Seven | yep, i saw my filter snag it |
| 17:32:32 | The_Seven | however, i couldn't see it on the archive, it was probably already removed by some admin |
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| 17:33:28 | Bagder | http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2010-06/0089.shtml |
| 17:34:00 | Bagder | I've however replaced the attachment so it isn't spreading more |
| 17:34:09 | * | Bagder runs off |
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| 18:14:06 | * | Buschel again waves to Coldfire testers |
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| 18:19:37 | Photoguy | Does anybody know if it's possible to get a d2+ replacement touchscreen? |
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| 18:48:09 | webguest30 | Hello lifesavers |
| 18:48:14 | | Nick webguest30 is now known as m0ar (www-data@giant.haxx.se) |
| 18:48:35 | m0ar | Is there an ETA of rockbox 3.6 -> clip+ ? |
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| 18:48:48 | AlexP | 3.6 has been released for all the targets it is going to be |
| 18:48:53 | Guest79727 | Dang |
| 18:49:05 | AlexP | If the clip+ is deemed stable at the time it will be in 3.7 |
| 18:49:19 | AlexP | But only if it meets the stable requirements |
| 18:49:55 | Guest79727 | Ah |
| 18:50:07 | Guest79727 | What problems exists with the current version? |
| 18:50:40 | AlexP | I don't know |
| 18:50:58 | Guest79727 | Is there a wikipage or sumthing? |
| 18:51:12 | AlexP | There are a couple, but they don't seem too helpful |
| 18:51:18 | AlexP | They are linked fro; the front page |
| 18:51:34 | Llorean | Among other things, the Clip+ doesn't yet play files back at the right speed yet. |
| 18:51:43 | Llorean | There's just still hardware that isn't working right and so on. |
| 18:52:13 | AlexP | Guest79727: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMS#Specific_problems |
| 18:52:42 | Guest79727 | Thanks |
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| 18:54:53 | Guest79727 | What might be the reason to the clip having such an odd problems as a 1.1% slowdown? |
| 18:55:02 | AlexP | See the bug report linked |
| 18:55:06 | AlexP | It explains it |
| 18:55:50 | Guest79727 | Trying to understand already |
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| 18:56:45 | Llorean | The bug report comment explanation is pretty straightforward, if you don't get it there's probably not much that can be done to help. |
| 18:57:10 | Guest79727 | Well I get it technically, but I'm still unsure of what may cause such a problem |
| 18:57:17 | Guest79727 | But thanks for the chitchat guys |
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| 18:57:34 | dfkt | what do i have to do to get an .sbs loaded into my theme? i added a "sbs: /.rockbox/wps/classic_statusbar.sbs" line to my theme .cfg, and enabled the status bar by either %we or %wi... but that's obviously not all |
| 18:58:19 | funman | Llorean: the fact that samplerate isn't 100% accurate isn't a bug per se. Having a higher precision is merely an enhancement, not a bugfix |
| 18:58:56 | Llorean | funman: It's a bug if files are playing measurably too slow, isn't it? |
| 18:59:04 | funman | no |
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| 18:59:13 | funman | hardware limitation |
| 18:59:19 | Llorean | What would you call it if a file that's supposed to be 4 hours long completes in 3 hrs 50 minutes? |
| 18:59:35 | Llorean | funman: So it's impossible to fix? |
| 18:59:52 | funman | i would tell the difference is below the human ear precision, so it's ok |
| 18:59:57 | AlexP | The OF (while not being perfect) is quite a bit better IIRC |
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| 19:00:01 | funman | it's possible to have more precision |
| 19:00:12 | funman | yeah bertrik suggested that the OF resamples everything to 48kHz |
| 19:00:52 | Llorean | funman: Feel free to close the bug report as "not a bug" then. |
| 19:01:07 | AlexP | I always find it odd that hardware made for playing audio has such stupid limitations |
| 19:02:24 | funman | well i believe having a clock freq which is an integer multiple of every samplerate in existence is hard |
| 19:02:42 | AlexP | true, but 44.1 seems a fairly obvious one |
| 19:02:46 | Llorean | Yeah, but when CDs are 44.1... |
| 19:05:15 | Llorean | AlexP: But if I recall Sandisks' response was more or less "Well, you wanted a cheap player, and cheap means not everything can be perfect" |
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| 19:05:48 | kugel | funman: could we do that as well? |
| 19:05:56 | AlexP | Yeah, and if it is small enough to not be noticeable, then never mind, but still seems slightly silly :) |
| 19:06:06 | funman | kugel: resample? |
| 19:06:10 | kugel | yes |
| 19:06:11 | Llorean | AlexP: Well, people *heard* it and complained to Sandisk that it didn't sound quite right originally. |
| 19:06:17 | Llorean | So some people can hear it, at least. |
| 19:06:24 | funman | sure but i don't think you can resample without quality loss |
| 19:06:27 | AlexP | ah, didn't know that |
| 19:06:37 | AlexP | funman: Especially not with our resampler |
| 19:06:49 | Llorean | I think dismissing it as "not a bug" isn't something that should happen. It should, more likely, be resigned as a "known issue" if we can't figure out how to fix it. |
| 19:06:56 | funman | perhaps 22.05 -> 44.1 would be doable (just duplicate every sample) |
| 19:07:20 | dfkt | that was one of the biggest complaints with a whole generation of marketed as 'high quality' sound blaster cards - people complained about them resampling everything to 48khz and audibly making the sound worse... |
| 19:07:26 | kugel | I'd think that resampling upwards shouldn't affect quality |
| 19:08:29 | kugel | what does the pitchscreen do? I once set it to 101.2% and couldn't hear a change in quality (but I found the speed difference noticeable) |
| 19:10:16 | funman | i think it calls dsp_upsample / dsp_downsample |
| 19:10:37 | funman | Llorean: well i closed it as notabug with an explanation |
| 19:11:29 | kugel | any idea how duplicating a sample once in a while would affect sq (negatively)? |
| 19:12:02 | funman | well you're just outputting a different sound |
| 19:13:59 | ranma | dfkt: The problemwith the sound blaster emu chip is that it does hw resampling for lots of channels and they had to cut corners so the resampler isn't quite that good. |
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| 19:14:29 | ranma | And doing high quality resampling in software would probably mean less runtime for rockbox... |
| 19:15:09 | funman | what's the samplerate precision of other rockbox targets (not the AMS) ? |
| 19:15:25 | dfkt | iirc, one can find out if a resample does its job well with a simple sine sweep |
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| 19:29:09 | funman | about svn properties i'll wait a bit and propose change of the conventions: |
| 19:29:31 | funman | - make Id keyword optional (not mention it on the wiki) |
| 19:29:46 | funman | - make eol-style optional as well (and mention that text files should have unix line endings) |
| 19:30:10 | funman | - give image files their correct mime type (not octet-stream) |
| 19:31:46 | funman | hm well nobody (but gevaerts on irc) said Id was useful so I'll propose to remove it completely |
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| 19:34:02 | AlexP | funman: For Id I'd rather have it one way or the other - use it everywhere or not at all, rather than a mishmash on files |
| 19:34:26 | AlexP | Personally, I don't really care if it is used or not :) |
| 19:34:45 | bertrik | Wait, I don't see the problem really, just seems to be that some people can't or won't want to use subversion and try to find reasons to use git instead, which is IMO a separate discussion |
| 19:35:00 | funman | bertrik: then you didn't read the thread |
| 19:35:28 | funman | really it's not about "some" people using git-svn and not svn |
| 19:35:35 | AlexP | bertrik: There are two discussions IMO - one is whether guidelines should be followed (yes, absolutely IMO), and the second is what those guidelines should be |
| 19:36:15 | AlexP | If the guidelines are there, then they should be followed regardless on whether some people don't want to, whether through thinking them pointless, or choice, of tools, or whatever |
| 19:36:34 | AlexP | However, what the guidelines actually are can be changed of course :) |
| 19:37:06 | bertrik | So, we're discussing now a change in the subversion guidelines here, right? |
| 19:37:18 | funman | yeah |
| 19:37:18 | AlexP | I think so :) |
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| 19:38:15 | funman | I wait a bit to see if more people have something to say about these properties and i'll send an email about removal of some of these properties |
| 19:41:00 | bertrik | Change 3) looks fine to me, 1) I find very reasonable, but I wonder if change 2) might give problems for people still using windows |
| 19:41:53 | AlexP | 1) Just bin them, not have a half-way house, 2) no idea) 3) sure :) |
| 19:42:39 | funman | on windows we still use unix tools which expect unix line endings |
| 19:43:27 | funman | and the plan is for new files, unless someone wants to go through all existing files and remove properties |
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| 19:44:25 | saratoga_ | why is likely the OF resamples? Couldn't they just use a different PLL clock? |
| 19:44:52 | bertrik | People on a cygwin setup might still want to edit files with a windows text editor, although that's probably a rather small percentage of people compiling rockbox |
| 19:46:04 | saratoga_ | Buschel: isn't Coldfire BE? so this would probably be slower since you have the overhead from the branch |
| 19:47:04 | Buschel | saratoga: the access to DRAM is much more expensive than the branching (from what I experienced so far) |
| 19:48:00 | Buschel | saratoga: I am wondering why the patch is slightly smaller on arm7tdmi −− which is LE |
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| 19:48:15 | funman | saratoga_: there's only 2 PLL settings (that i've seen) in the OF : 160 & 240MHz |
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| 19:48:56 | funman | bertrik: windows text editors handle unix line endings (just not the original notepad.exe, at least not on XP) |
| 19:52:02 | saratoga_ | its possible to test for resampling by playing a tone really to 22khz and recording it (ideally at 48khz) and seeing if it comes out at some other frequency |
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| 19:52:26 | saratoga_ | but dfkt's rmaa results don't look like resampling |
| 19:52:35 | saratoga_ | at least not very fast resampling |
| 19:52:50 | bertrik | saratoga, AFAIK the resampling option is just a guess now and is not really supported by experiments yet |
| 19:53:22 | saratoga_ | the frequency response looks identical to RB even out to 22khz, which would require a very good resampler and a lot of CPU time |
| 19:57:09 | funman | ranma: what's left for AMSv1 usb driver ? |
| 19:57:22 | funman | i just see a TODO: switch max packet size depending on speed |
| 19:59:50 | bieber | JdGordon: Makes sense, I'll take a look at it |
| 19:59:51 | bieber | Shouldn't be a hard change to make |
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| 20:01:11 | Blue_Dude | Hi. Been gone a week, and now I don't have the right toolchain anymore. How do I get eabi on Cygwin? |
| 20:01:28 | funman | echo e|./tools/rockboxdev.sh |
| 20:01:58 | saratoga_ | you'll probably need to install some other packages too since i don't think we ship cygwin with all the dependencies |
| 20:02:29 | Blue_Dude | tbbppppbpbp. |
| 20:02:36 | Blue_Dude | k |
| 20:02:40 | funman | that'd be texinfo |
| 20:02:54 | saratoga_ | why is that needed anyway? |
| 20:03:24 | Blue_Dude | texinfo appears to be installed already. |
| 20:04:36 | Blue_Dude | "echo e|./tools/rockboxdev.sh" ? Is that all? |
| 20:05:01 | Blue_Dude | What does the "echo e|" do for me? |
| 20:05:58 | Blue_Dude | Never mind, figured it out. |
| 20:06:52 | funman | saratoga_: some docs which can't be disabled without tweaking makefile i think |
| 20:07:14 | Blue_Dude | ROCKBOXDEV: Please install curl or wget and re-run the script |
| 20:10:21 | funman | hm the SD change seems to get 1h30 of battery on fuzev2 (now 21h) |
| 20:10:42 | funman | i started benchmark on clipv2/clip+ today |
| 20:10:54 | saratoga_ | which changes? |
| 20:11:23 | funman | disable the 4 clocks in sd_enable |
| 20:11:56 | funman | http://pastie.org/1002863 |
| 20:12:54 | saratoga_ | ah thought you meant this was already committed |
| 20:13:14 | funman | i'll make sure to run test_codec before committing (because that kind of change broke on AMSv1) |
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| 20:16:01 | Blue_Dude | Holy crap! That script is... busy... |
| 20:16:16 | funman | s/codec/disk/ |
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| 20:22:06 | Luca_S | Hello! Is frequency switching still unstable on fuzev2? I just completed an entire battery cycle without crashes (not a bench, just a few days of casual listening) in my custom build that includes the latest patch on the tracker |
| 20:23:25 | funman | Luca_S: i don't remember how it crashed on fuzev2 |
| 20:23:39 | funman | But i just remember that with svn the battery life should be ~14h30, not ~19h30 |
| 20:23:49 | funman | so with the SD patch, 14h30 -> 21h is quite awesome |
| 20:24:10 | bertrik | wow, indeed |
| 20:24:34 | funman | Luca_S: you have made a bench of unpatched SVN recently? |
| 20:24:59 | Luca_S | in the early days of the port it simply froze, no panic message and no reactions to button presses |
| 20:26:09 | Luca_S | and it happened randomly but usually once in half an hour |
| 20:26:15 | funman | Luca_S: reading FS #11297 again, I think it didn't crash on fuzev2, but I didn't want to enable it because the same settings crashed on clips |
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| 20:28:28 | Luca_S | couldn't it be selectively committed? I'm asking since I'm unable to create a recent custom build, still can't build the eabi toolchain with the vmware image :( |
| 20:28:54 | funman | selectively? |
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| 20:29:53 | Luca_S | i.e. enabled only on fuzev2 |
| 20:30:11 | funman | sure it could |
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| 20:41:09 | Luca_S | ahh, damn cgi, I couldn't read your replies :D |
| 20:41:37 | Luca_S | funman Luca_S: you have made a bench of unpatched SVN recently? << no, but I could start it now if you need it |
| 20:41:46 | funman | http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/8675/fuzev2.png <- 14hours is probably for old builds |
| 20:42:34 | funman | Luca_S: yeah please, i want to measure how http://pastie.org/1002863 affects battery life |
| 20:42:54 | Luca_S | ok, just plain latest svn then |
| 20:43:16 | Blue_Dude | I think the Cygwin config wiki needs updating in regards to required install packages. In addition to the listed packages, we need python, curl, and so far, libiconv... |
| 20:44:54 | funman | Blue_Dude: something else than thumb_cc.py needs python? |
| 20:45:05 | Blue_Dude | Also, the dev script terminated with an error because I didn't have libiconv. Now I can't rerun, because build-binutils already exists. Is there a workaround? |
| 20:45:21 | Blue_Dude | funman: analysis tools need it. |
| 20:45:30 | Blue_Dude | Not required I suppose, but useful. |
| 20:45:47 | funman | Blue_Dude: if binutils is installed you can comment the "build ...." line for it in rockboxdev.sh; else just remove the folder to start building it agfain |
| 20:45:50 | funman | again* |
| 20:46:07 | Blue_Dude | I was afraid of that. |
| 20:46:13 | Blue_Dude | I'll start over. |
| 20:46:19 | funman | can you run arm-elf-eabi-as ? |
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| 20:47:45 | Blue_Dude | I already started over... |
| 20:48:09 | Blue_Dude | Takes a long whole to run. I hope I have all the dependencies I need this time. |
| 20:48:13 | Blue_Dude | *while |
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| 20:49:37 | Blue_Dude | I'm so dumping Cygwin in a few weeks. Is there any particular flavor of Linux that works well with the Rockbox dev tools? What would you install if starting from scratch? |
| 20:50:52 | AlexP | any really |
| 20:51:10 | AlexP | There are people using debian, ubuntu, fedora, arch, .... |
| 20:51:19 | AlexP | Probably a convo for community :) |
| 20:55:23 | Luca_S | battery bench started, default settings, mp3 mixed bitrates, volume 0db |
| 20:55:35 | bieber | Blue_Dude: Just about any distro with a package manager should have all the crap you need in its repositories. I've always found Ubuntu the easiest to set up and use, but anything you can get running on your machine should work fine |
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| 20:55:58 | AlexP | Yeah, let's not start a distro war in here - any will do it :) |
| 20:56:35 | Blue_Dude | I moved the question to the other forum... |
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| 21:04:18 | Luca_S | did anybody notice that in recentish svn for fuzev2 any time OF boots after a RB session it triggers OF's 'rebuilding database'? |
| 21:04:48 | funman | yes, look on flyspray |
| 21:07:11 | amiconn | funman: PP5002 sees immediate stkov panic on COP |
| 21:07:25 | amiconn | But increasing that stack (the idle stack) doesn't help |
| 21:07:30 | funman | all the ipods listed in configure are PP5002 ? |
| 21:07:36 | amiconn | So something else is wrong |
| 21:08:20 | amiconn | nope |
| 21:08:21 | funman | did you try printing the stack pointer in the panic message to check it was really overflowing ? |
| 21:08:25 | amiconn | 1g2g and 3g are |
| 21:08:35 | amiconn | The others are just untested |
| 21:08:46 | amiconn | domonoky1: Could you please test 4g? |
| 21:10:30 | * | amiconn suspects that something in thread.c is going wrong |
| 21:12:54 | funman | try changing C/ASM code line 298 of thread-pp.c ? |
| 21:13:08 | funman | (just throwing the idea) |
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| 22:10:36 | Blue_Dude | *Still building* eabi tools in Cygwin... |
| 22:11:37 | Blue_Dude | And here I was thinking only a few minutes. |
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| 22:14:00 | m0ar | Hello |
| 22:14:41 | m0ar | When trying to set the YellowBarDynamic WPS I just get reverted back to the original theme, any ideas? |
| 22:15:15 | mc2739 | m0ar: which version of Rockbox are you using? |
| 22:15:41 | m0ar | mc2739: Todays |
| 22:15:51 | m0ar | Just upgraded, thought it might have been that |
| 22:16:40 | m0ar | Same thing with dfkt minimum clip |
| 22:16:43 | m0ar | So that's wierd |
| 22:17:39 | mc2739 | the syntax for the theme files was changed after Rockbox 3.6 was released. You need to download a new version of the theme from the theme site. |
| 22:17:53 | m0ar | Just did |
| 22:17:57 | m0ar | Oh |
| 22:18:04 | m0ar | The RBU isn't using the new files? :) |
| 22:18:29 | mc2739 | not unless you have a recent svn build |
| 22:18:38 | m0ar | Then there's the problem |
| 22:18:45 | m0ar | Thanks a bunch |
| 22:18:55 | m0ar | Time to update the RBU then? |
| 22:19:03 | mc2739 | it is in the works |
| 22:19:14 | m0ar | Wonders |
| 22:19:25 | * | m0ar sends some e-love to all the devs of RB |
| 22:20:01 | mc2739 | in the meantime, go to http://themes.rockbox.org/ and download an updated theme and unzip it to your device |
| 22:20:43 | m0ar | Yeah, already on it |
| 22:22:35 | m0ar | Running svn-stuff in windows, which I barely visits, isn't worth it |
| 22:22:59 | m0ar | And I spilled a glass of water in my linuxlaptop last night, so now I'm stuck hehe |
| 22:23:33 | m0ar | Now the themes works just fine, thanks dude |
| 22:24:30 | mc2739 | you're welcome, FYI, you can find a link to recent Rockbox Utility builds here: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=23544.0 |
| 22:27:05 | m0ar | Not a nessicity, thanks anyways |
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| 23:48:16 | literal | hm, just hit a bug. I turned on the display on my Clip+ and it shows the (paused) track that I was previously playing |
| 23:48:55 | literal | not the one it's currently playing, which is even in another playlist/album |
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| 23:49:41 | literal | even if I navigate the menus, or pause/play, it still shows the old paused track |
| 23:49:47 | literal | in the WPS |
| 23:50:05 | CIA-6 | New commit by gevaerts (r26835): Build D2 with the old compiler again (builds) |
| 23:50:11 | CIA-6 | New commit by gevaerts (r26836): Build D2 with the old compiler again (configure) |
| 23:50:14 | literal | the problem "fixed" itself when the current track ended |
| 23:51:54 | CIA-6 | r26836 build result: All green |
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