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| 00:57:43 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r27265): Theme Editor: SBS will now render underneath WPS, if both are present in project |
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| 01:01:23 | Takato | hi there |
| 01:02:09 | bieber | JdGordon: I just spotted a problem with the way we're handling Vf and Vb now. When you have sublines immediately afterward, the first subline is just being counted as part of the line with the Vf and Vb, and the second subline and on is counted as a brand new line, because the code that checks for sublines in the first place is stopping at the end of the line even when %Vf/%Vb are there |
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| 01:03:41 | bieber | If I fix it to do that, then we have a situation where the Vf/Vb are being parsed as part of the first subline, which will make them only take effect when that branch is being shown. I think the ideal way to do this is to make the Vf/Vb actually parse as part of the VIEWPORT element in the parse tree, what would you think about that? (Why did we remove the fg and bg color options from the Viewport tag in the first place?) |
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| 01:06:31 | pixelma | I think his goal was to be able to change colours inside viewports too, I would be fine if it is a viewport parameter again |
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| 01:31:09 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r27266): Theme Editor: Fixed cd code generation bug: Tags whose paramlists end in \n will now have a newline inserted after them |
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| 01:48:13 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r27267): Theme Editor: Switched device configuration panel to a QFormLayout |
| 01:48:40 | andash | hello! is there some way to stay up to date on certain builds? in my particular case i would like to know if the "current build" of r27266 is OK to use |
| 01:49:01 | Torne | the *intention* is that all builds are okay to use |
| 01:49:06 | Torne | and generally this is true |
| 01:49:34 | andash | ok, that sounds good! i wasnt sure exactly how unstable/stable we were talking :p |
| 01:49:39 | andash | i'll give it a try |
| 01:49:44 | Torne | there are a dozen or more new current builds every day, so nobody is likely to be able to tell you if any specific version has a probem |
| 01:49:49 | CIA-6 | r27267 build result: All green |
| 01:50:02 | Torne | Well, we try not to commit things that make stuff worse :) |
| 01:50:14 | saratoga | theres usually no point in updating more then once every couple weeks unless some big new features goes in or the build you have is buggy or unstable |
| 01:50:15 | Torne | and if it doesn't *compile* then the build won't appear.. |
| 01:50:41 | andash | haha, i would hope not! but i realise stuff happen, just wanted to make sure there isn't anything in *particular* going on right now in those builds. |
| 01:50:46 | andash | thanks for your help |
| 01:51:15 | soap | or, to add to what saratoga said, if you want to report a bug one is asked to verify the bug on the latest possible version. |
| 01:51:50 | andash | i see, i'll keep that in mind |
| 01:52:43 | andash | been using rockbox for quite a while and haven't really had any unfixable problems that i can think of, just haven't tried anything other than stable |
| 01:52:51 | andash | hopefully all will go well :) |
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| 01:54:58 | DarkDespair5 | Hey all |
| 01:55:39 | DarkDespair5 | I'm having a bit of an issue getting rockbox to work on a Sansa Fuze 2, and it's on an untested system (Win7) |
| 01:57:57 | DarkDespair5 | Automatic install is grayed out too |
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| 02:09:40 | bieber | JdGordon: Another thought. We could just turn the \n being used in the param lists into a no-break flag, so that any tag with that at the end signals the line it's on not to add a linebreak at the end of the line, but still allows the \n to trigger the start of a new line for parsing purposes |
| 02:10:20 | JdGordon | good timing.. just woke up... let me read the logs |
| 02:11:58 | JdGordon | arg, good point abouit vf being on the subline... |
| 02:12:23 | JdGordon | I took it out so that you cold change the colours inside the viewport |
| 02:13:52 | bieber | Other tags that eat their newlines could also cause the same problem, but I think they're less likely to be used right before a sublines line |
| 02:15:47 | JdGordon | hmm, no, I dont see Vf causing problems.. if you want it to work with the whole sublines section you need to put it on the previous line |
| 02:16:05 | JdGordon | Vf tells the viewport to use that colour for the rest of it |
| 02:16:58 | bieber | So how should we parse them? |
| 02:17:26 | bieber | I like the idea of just turning \n in the param list into a non-breaking flag, but I don't know how much hassle that might be for you in RB's renderer |
| 02:18:15 | JdGordon | I dont understand how that would work |
| 02:18:29 | JdGordon | it is also 2 seperate issues |
| 02:19:12 | DarkDespair5 | Could any of you help me with the fuze 2 issue? |
| 02:20:10 | DarkDespair5 | It just whitescreens if I try to flash the modified firmware |
| 02:20:31 | bieber | We'd just parse the document the way we were before we ever added the \n flag, and then when rendering, if you come across a tag that has the \n at the end of the list, just set a flag to tell the renderer not to insert a newline after that line |
| 02:22:44 | bieber | The other way to do it would be to have the code that checks for ';'s in the line about to be parsed keep going after a tag with the '\n' flag so that the Vf/Vb just get rolled into the first subline |
| 02:22:47 | JdGordon | if we do that the flag should be easier to get to than the arg list string |
| 02:23:08 | bieber | Just add it to the tag table? |
| 02:23:44 | JdGordon | yeah, add a flags column... It was going to need it for the update frequency anyway |
| 02:24:24 | bieber | Do you want to do that and do away with the \n flag in the param lists? |
| 02:25:35 | pixelma | DarkDespair5: I believe there were reports about some Fuze v2 not able to install Rockbox, I'm not sure but you should find something in our forums. |
| 02:26:26 | JdGordon | up to you, if it works better then sure |
| 02:26:46 | bieber | Okay, I'll add a flags column and send you a patch to look at |
| 02:27:50 | bieber | Should a flags variable just be an unsigned int, and then #define the flags as 0x01, 0x02, etc...? |
| 02:28:30 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 02:29:23 | DarkDespair5 | Thanks pixelma |
| 02:31:41 | pixelma | just as a note, I don't know much about the newer Sansa ports, maybe you could try asking at another time again (night in Europe and some of the main devs working on this are not around currently) |
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| 02:52:02 | JdGordon | bieber: looks like the draw order is wrong when drawing a sbs and wps? |
| 02:52:36 | bieber | Oh? |
| 02:53:20 | JdGordon | using the CSB theme.. the wps is showing the sbs backdrop instead of the wps one |
| 02:53:31 | JdGordon | and the default viewport appears to be wrong also |
| 02:54:26 | JdGordon | AlexP: your skin code sucks! |
| 02:54:41 | bieber | Does the WPS backdrop replace the SBS backdrop, or just the area that the WPS is being rendered in? |
| 02:54:57 | AlexP | They are the same backdrop I thought |
| 02:55:02 | AlexP | In that theme that is |
| 02:55:19 | AlexP | I can't remember tbh |
| 02:55:23 | AlexP | It works anyway |
| 02:55:29 | JdGordon | nope wps loads one sepearlty |
| 02:55:59 | JdGordon | and ignore the default viewport comment, i was wrong |
| 02:56:30 | AlexP | I really don't remember, t'was ages ago |
| 02:57:26 | bieber | Okay, so when rendering the WPS, the WPS backdrop goes underneath everything, then the SBS gets rendered on top of that, and then the WPS gets rendered in the Custom UI viewport of the SBS? |
| 02:58:19 | JdGordon | not really... umm... |
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| 03:00:11 | JdGordon | yeah, do it that way |
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| 03:06:15 | JdGordon | grrr.. the whole Vf thing was a bad idea... |
| 03:06:45 | JdGordon | with the changes we wont be able to put them inside sublines |
| 03:07:00 | JdGordon | without special trickery anyway |
| 03:07:10 | JdGordon | or maybe we will |
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| 03:09:28 | bieber | In viewport definitions inside a WPS, are the coordinates absolute or relative to the Custom UI viewport it's being rendered in? |
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| 03:17:25 | JdGordon | absolute |
| 03:18:22 | bieber | Okay |
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| 03:35:08 | bieber | JdGordon: http://pastebin.com/rQ9aBvN2 |
| 03:36:23 | JdGordon | looks ok |
| 03:36:38 | JdGordon | I'd prefer 0 instead of NOFLAGS though |
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| 03:49:33 | JdGordon | working now :) |
| 03:49:49 | JdGordon | CSB still looks like it has an alignement issue with the AA, but no biggy |
| 03:51:59 | bieber | Yeah, I'm not sure why it's doing that :/ |
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| 11:42:49 | amiconn | bertrik: (late answer) I transplanted an X5 tuner sub-board into pixelma's M5 |
| 11:43:25 | amiconn | The iAudio X5 (and M3) use the D&A DA202, which is essentially a TEA5767 based module |
| 11:43:54 | amiconn | The M5 has the same sub-board, but without the tuner mounted |
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| 11:45:42 | bertrik | But the X5 tuner board is much bigger than just the radio module as I saw on our wiki |
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| 14:03:41 | CIA-6 | New commit by b0hoon (r27273): hdd6330: change the synaptics-mep driver in a few places according to the touchpad behavior. |
| 14:05:26 | CIA-6 | r27273 build result: All green |
| 14:11:51 | bertrik | Are there many targets that support dock detection? |
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| 14:17:22 | bertrik | I was just looking through the button code and I see that headphone detection is done by headphones_inserted() on the driver level, which triggers an SYS_PHONE_PLUGGED system event (which is picked up in apps/misc). I expected a similar mechanism for dock detection. |
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| 14:27:41 | CIA-6 | New commit by b0hoon (r27274): hdd6330: enable full touchpad support - code cleanup, all buttons should work now correctly, scrollstrip should work like in the OF. |
| 14:29:09 | CIA-6 | r27274 build result: All green |
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| 14:43:48 | CIA-6 | New commit by pixelma (r27275): Include 16-Adobe-Helvetica.fnt on targets with LCD_HEIGHT <= 400 (Ondas) as default font to make Cabbiev2 look as intended. |
| 14:44:08 | pixelma | svn is slow on some tries from here |
| 14:45:02 | pixelma | first try to commit timed out, second try worked perfectly |
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| 14:46:28 | CIA-6 | r27275 build result: All green |
| 14:46:36 | pixelma | and I also had similar problems when updating svn recently |
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| 14:48:48 | CIA-6 | New commit by b0hoon (r27276): hdd6330: Enable buttonlights. |
| 14:49:59 | gevaerts | b0hoon: did you see http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=25148.0 ? |
| 14:50:22 | CIA-6 | r27276 build result: 0 errors, 2 warnings (b0hoon committed) |
| 14:51:58 | gevaerts | And http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=25208.msg169022 |
| 14:52:10 | b0hoon | gevaerts: no, i'm reading now... |
| 14:58:30 | funman | amiconn: you blamed me ? |
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| 15:04:20 | pixelma | what are those warnings? |
| 15:05:10 | JdGord | Funman: you pinged me on Saturday? I know nothing about those settings |
| 15:05:26 | funman | pixelma: invalid code |
| 15:05:59 | pixelma | ok, but why do they appear now in an unrelatated commit it seems |
| 15:06:06 | funman | JdGord: well i found what i needed, thanks |
| 15:06:17 | JdGord | Cool :) |
| 15:06:19 | pixelma | unrelated too |
| 15:06:19 | funman | pixelma: different compiler being used (alexp has a recent 4.5.0) |
| 15:06:42 | pixelma | I see |
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| 15:07:01 | funman | i'm looking at it but i can't find a download for GNU Chess v2 |
| 15:07:39 | funman | gnu.org ftp only has (some) v5 tgz |
| 15:10:00 | funman | gnuchess 3.1+ has the same code |
| 15:11:32 | funman | i guess the intent is http://pastie.org/1030043 |
| 15:15:07 | funman | ah no, it's fixed in gnuchess 4.0 |
| 15:20:33 | CIA-6 | New commit by pixelma (r27277): Add Onda VX747 and VX777 images to be used for and in preparation of a manual. Author: Marko Pahlke. Flyspray: FS #10852 (VX747) and FS #10854 (VX777). |
| 15:22:06 | CIA-6 | r27277 build result: 0 errors, 2 warnings (pixelma committed) |
| 15:27:53 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r27278): chessbox: fix 'i = i++', based on gnuchess4.0-pl80 |
| 15:28:22 | CIA-6 | New commit by pixelma (r27279): Add platform and keymap files and basic descriptions about installing Rockbox etc. for an Onda VX777 manual. Author: Giovanni Zilli. Flyspray: ... |
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| 15:29:24 | CIA-6 | r27278 build result: All green |
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| 15:29:33 | funman | amiconn: i wonder how you cross compile simulators since simcc() uses uname |
| 15:30:48 | pixelma | I just know it once worked (crosscompiling sims) |
| 15:30:56 | CIA-6 | r27279 build result: All green |
| 15:31:10 | funman | making windows builds from linux? |
| 15:31:20 | funman | kugel: ping |
| 15:31:21 | pixelma | yes |
| 15:31:53 | kugel | funman: pong |
| 15:31:53 | funman | kugel: i have a patch which enables recording code in simulator, should I commit it now or wait until this code can be used at all ? |
| 15:32:05 | kugel | I haven't seen the patch |
| 15:32:11 | pixelma | it's an advanced build option since a while |
| 15:32:45 | kugel | funman: sdl can't record, can it? |
| 15:33:00 | kugel | at least not v1.2 |
| 15:33:10 | funman | no it can't |
| 15:33:14 | funman | http://pastie.org/1030054 |
| 15:33:32 | funman | but that doesn't mean we shouldn't build the code; and also I plan to use recording code anyway |
| 15:34:10 | kugel | ah it only enables the code but doesn't actually record? |
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| 15:34:34 | funman | that's it |
| 15:34:44 | kugel | sounds like a good idea, the same is being done for radio IIRC |
| 15:35:23 | funman | i'll check if it still compiles cleanly and commit |
| 15:36:03 | funman | −−- i tested the AMSv2 cpufreq patch again and it seems to work on all targets (i only did 1 discharge cycle though) |
| 15:36:22 | funman | jhMikeS fix might solve this problem |
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| 15:37:54 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r27280): Simulator: build recording code |
| 15:39:27 | funman | 18h15 runtime on clipv2 |
| 15:39:37 | CIA-6 | r27280 build result: 4 errors, 0 warnings (funman committed) |
| 15:39:57 | Lear | funman: And without the patch? |
| 15:41:31 | funman | i have no recent bench on hand, but according to config/sansaclipv2.h , 15h50 or so |
| 15:42:40 | pixelma | meh, build errors just when I was about to commit something |
| 15:43:07 | funman | pixelma: it's only 1 target, there's plenty others to test your commit on |
| 15:43:24 | pixelma | what? |
| 15:43:47 | funman | the build errors affect 1 target. if your code is buggy we'll see it on the other targets |
| 15:44:10 | pixelma | I don't want your errors |
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| 15:44:49 | funman | ^^ |
| 15:45:40 | pixelma | what's the enabling recording code for by the way? |
| 15:46:10 | funman | read the backlog |
| 15:46:47 | funman | any reason why we don't build a iriverh100 SIM ? |
| 15:47:06 | JdGordon | do we build h120? |
| 15:47:18 | funman | yes |
| 15:47:27 | JdGordon | then no need to do both |
| 15:47:42 | JdGordon | same reason to not build the video64 and video32 sims |
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| 15:50:21 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r27281): sim: add spdif_measure_frequency() stub for HAVE_SPDIF_IN |
| 15:52:08 | CIA-6 | r27281 build result: All green |
| 15:52:24 | CIA-6 | New commit by pixelma (r27282): Replace COWON_D2_PAD with 'touchscreen' in manual button tables and text where appropriate - places where a touch area is meant and hence valid for ... |
| 15:52:31 | pixelma | argh |
| 15:52:57 | pixelma | I wanted the screenshots in a separate commit :\ |
| 15:53:14 | Lear | funman: Do you know if the cpufreq patch would work as is with the "correct" clock (high CPU frequency at 248 MHz)? I mean, aside from changing the frequency of the ifdefs in set_cpu_frequency. |
| 15:53:37 | funman | Lear: afaik only setting cpu freq to 248MHz doesn't work |
| 15:54:09 | CIA-6 | r27282 build result: All green |
| 15:54:23 | funman | r26979 says it broke µSD mounting on fuzev2 |
| 15:54:27 | pixelma | and forgot to specify the files... but reverting that part and adding it again makes no sense either :/ |
| 15:54:31 | funman | it might have changed now |
| 15:55:05 | bertrik | funman, but ranma fixed a couple of sd peculiarities after that I think |
| 15:55:10 | Lear | funman: 248 MHz didn't break it for me, so that's why I'm wondering. |
| 15:55:13 | funman | and broke some others ^^ |
| 15:55:35 | funman | Lear: you must check all the dividers and see which frequency they give |
| 15:55:54 | funman | perhaps this table of dividers is overkill though, and an older patch might work |
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| 16:03:34 | pixelma | if someone wants the commit messages to be correct, I'll revert the part of the previous commit with the screenshots and add them again but it'll be weird too I guess |
| 16:08:31 | balintx | Some ideas: RTF and ICO viewer, Zoom in BMP Viewer, undo in RockPaint |
| 16:10:21 | S_a_i_n_t | balintx: Start coding. |
| 16:11:01 | balintx | I can't code, due to compiler not work |
| 16:11:17 | S_a_i_n_t | compiler not working doesn;t stop you coding. |
| 16:11:32 | S_a_i_n_t | It just stops you *testing* |
| 16:11:59 | Torne | also, the compilers built following our instructions certainly do work |
| 16:12:15 | balintx | no patch does work |
| 16:12:27 | balintx | it does everything properly |
| 16:12:38 | balintx | after make zip, in rocks there are just a few .rock |
| 16:12:39 | S_a_i_n_t | obviously not... |
| 16:13:04 | funman | 19h runtime on clip+ |
| 16:13:04 | balintx | And custom rocks aren't in those |
| 16:13:26 | Torne | well, either the patch you used is broken/outdated, or you did something wrong |
| 16:14:17 | bertrik | wow, it looks like we're doing quite a bit better than the OF on clip+ and clipv2, w.r.t. battery runtime |
| 16:14:24 | balintx | SOURCES, CATEGORIES has the proper thing. After make, the new rocks are in the build. After make zip there isn't. |
| 16:14:31 | funman | Lear: which patch did you use to use 248MHz cpu freq on fuzev2 ? did you try several boots with µSD inserted ? |
| 16:14:51 | S_a_i_n_t | balintx: You're really going to need to be more specific. |
| 16:14:59 | S_a_i_n_t | What patch are you even talking about? |
| 16:14:59 | Torne | so it compiles them, but doesn't put them in the zip? |
| 16:15:05 | S_a_i_n_t | Did you get *any* errors, etc. |
| 16:15:06 | Torne | and it's missing other, pre-existing ones from the zip as well? |
| 16:15:21 | balintx | Torne: yes. |
| 16:15:23 | Torne | that is odd, then (and is nothing to do with the compiler) |
| 16:15:42 | Torne | did you start from a clean build directory? |
| 16:15:48 | balintx | Torne: yes. |
| 16:15:50 | Torne | to make sure, it'es best to delete the whole thing |
| 16:15:54 | Torne | rather than just do make clean |
| 16:16:00 | balintx | i did |
| 16:16:04 | balintx | cd build |
| 16:16:08 | Lear | funman: I only used what was in SVN for a while. I always have a 16 GB uSD inserted when booting to Rockbox, never saw any problem. |
| 16:16:09 | balintx | rm -rf * |
| 16:16:20 | balintx | ../tools/configure |
| 16:16:25 | balintx | make |
| 16:16:26 | balintx | make zip |
| 16:16:30 | Torne | right. |
| 16:16:43 | balintx | no error were, which stopped make |
| 16:16:55 | Torne | are you certain? |
| 16:17:07 | Torne | some intermediate files are cleaned up after the build, even if make failed |
| 16:17:14 | Torne | which can make the actual error scroll off the screen |
| 16:17:28 | Torne | easiest way to be sure is just rnning make again.. |
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| 16:18:35 | * | Torne looks at the makefile, will suggest soemthign in a sec ;) |
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| 16:19:34 | balintx | I will look that.. |
| 16:19:55 | Torne | also, try make V=1 zip |
| 16:20:04 | Torne | that will tell it to be verbose and print the commands it's using |
| 16:20:13 | pixelma | does someone know by chance how to enable building a daily manual, the Onda VX777 could be added now |
| 16:21:03 | funman | Lear: ah so you basically reverted r26979 in your build? |
| 16:21:17 | pixelma | I guess it needs some changes in www and a Swede to put these online, but a hint which these are exactly would be nice |
| 16:22:11 | Lear | funman: Yes. |
| 16:23:21 | funman | did you try PLLA@384MHz FCLK@240MHz PCLK@64MHz ? |
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| 16:24:35 | Lear | No. |
| 16:26:54 | bertrik | It would be worth doing a couple of benches with various PCLK frequencies, if only it didn't take so ridiculously long :P |
| 16:27:34 | mc2739 | pixelma: I think manuals are built for stable and unstable targets |
| 16:29:14 | funman | bertrik: benching with the screen always on should work |
| 16:29:45 | funman | bertrik: also in which order should we test/apply these modifications? dynamic cpu freq first? |
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| 16:30:47 | pixelma | mc2739: hmm, I'll leave it then, feels weird to have it all prepared and not used though |
| 16:30:55 | bertrik | funman, I don't know yet |
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| 16:35:58 | funman | I will do 2 full discharge benches on each AMSv2: one with the patch, one without; using same revision, settings, audio. |
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| 16:37:39 | funman | even if changing frequency in several steps is overkill, we will be able to test/change it later |
| 16:39:26 | funman | I found instructions for cross compiling sim: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UiSimulator#Building_Windows_sim_in_Linux |
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| 16:45:37 | funman | pixelma: can you check if cygwin ld supports -z option ? (ld −−help|grep −− -z) |
| 16:46:24 | funman | "ld −−help|grep −− -z\ defs" would be even better |
| 16:46:34 | funman | (btw I assume we have no windows build client) |
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| 16:51:18 | S_a_i_n_t | funman: ld −−help|grep −− -z returns absolutely nothing on my Cygwin install. |
| 16:51:30 | funman | thanks |
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| 17:02:14 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r27283): Fix win32 simulator builds (tested cross compilation from linux) ... |
| 17:04:14 | CIA-6 | r27283 build result: All green |
| 17:05:04 | funman | bertrik: did you already benchmark the OF on clip+ ? |
| 17:05:16 | bertrik | no |
| 17:06:15 | funman | http://www.anythingbutipod.com/archives/2009/08/sandisk-sansa-clip-plus-review.php gives 15 hours |
| 17:06:57 | funman | just like http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clipplus&thread.id=1 (which is on official sansa forums) |
| 17:08:04 | bertrik | Those 15 hours is the manufacturer runtime, several of the comments claim much lower numbers |
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| 17:08:23 | funman | fuze is advertized as 20 hours (no difference between v1 or v2) |
| 17:11:14 | funman | 15 hours on clip (v1 or v2) too |
| 17:11:55 | funman | where's luca_s :'( |
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| 17:49:20 | Dannyboy | Hi, could someone help me with my rockboxed iriver |
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| 17:51:45 | Dannyboy | when i play music which is in flac format, it suddenly makes a buzzing sound after a few minutes |
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| 18:01:09 | pixelma | Dannyboy: what build do you run exactly? |
| 18:03:25 | Dannyboy | let me check |
| 18:03:44 | Dannyboy | r27247-100702 |
| 18:04:10 | Dannyboy | is it possible for me to revert back to original iriver firmware |
| 18:04:15 | Dannyboy | cos at least then i can listen to music |
| 18:04:35 | Dannyboy | im using bootloader 7-pre4 |
| 18:05:27 | pixelma | you can start the original firmware by holding a button during boot, not sure which - the manual should tell you how |
| 18:05:47 | pixelma | did you try the release 3.6 ? |
| 18:06:06 | Dannyboy | i cant do that because i have bootloader 7-pre4 |
| 18:06:13 | Dannyboy | it doesnt let you boot into original firmware |
| 18:06:16 | Dannyboy | yes i tried 3.6 |
| 18:09:20 | pixelma | huh? Even if it is a -pre bootloader I would expect starting the original firmware would work... I don't have an Iriver though |
| 18:10:21 | pixelma | or do you mean you also "flashed" ROckbox, assuming you have an H120 or H140 |
| 18:11:20 | Dannyboy | yes i flashed it |
| 18:11:33 | Dannyboy | is there anyway i can get someone elses .bin file? |
| 18:11:36 | Dannyboy | i didnt back mine up |
| 18:13:03 | pixelma | there are even older releases available but I'm not sure if that'll help you |
| 18:13:13 | Dannyboy | no |
| 18:13:20 | Dannyboy | im beinging to think its a hardware problem with the player |
| 18:13:33 | Dannyboy | but if i could just load the original iriver firmware |
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| 18:17:41 | pixelma | older releases are here: http://download.rockbox.org/release/ - the manual says uninstalling is installing an unpatched firmware again http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-iriverh100/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-200002.5.2 , you need to get it from where you got it first while installing I guess |
| 18:17:56 | pixelma | but that's my only source of information |
| 18:18:11 | Dannyboy | i need to rename the firmware to ihp_120.bin |
| 18:18:19 | Dannyboy | and flash it using the iriver_flash plugin |
| 18:18:20 | Dannyboy | i think |
| 18:18:30 | Dannyboy | going to try that |
| 18:18:42 | pixelma | Dannyboy: does this also happen with other formats (possibly after some songs)? |
| 18:18:55 | Dannyboy | i dont know didnt try other formats |
| 18:18:59 | Dannyboy | i only play flac files |
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| 18:25:48 | Dannyboy | i need a ihp_120.bin file |
| 18:25:52 | Dannyboy | to uninstall rockbox |
| 18:25:55 | Dannyboy | where would i get that |
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| 18:51:52 | balintx | Dannyboy: google |
| 18:52:38 | Dannyboy | im trying to google for a patched version of ihp 120.hex |
| 18:52:42 | Dannyboy | but i cant find one |
| 18:53:26 | S_a_i_n_t | http://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CCQQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.misticriver.com%2Frockbox-h1xx-series%2F48519-restoring-original-firmware-your-ihp-1xx-after-flashing-ram-rom.html&ei=XrwwTIexLsygkQWe29CCBA&usg=AFQjCNG_ma6aSIwrtQ_pQ-m3OHicwkOn3w |
| 18:53:31 | S_a_i_n_t | should help you. |
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| 18:54:10 | Dannyboy | but he doesnt give a link to the file |
| 18:54:16 | Dannyboy | it would be easy if someone provided the file |
| 18:54:33 | S_a_i_n_t | No, I don;t believe it is legal to do so. |
| 18:54:39 | S_a_i_n_t | Otherwise, rockbox would. |
| 18:54:39 | Dannyboy | :( |
| 18:54:50 | S_a_i_n_t | He mentions he managed to make his own though. |
| 18:54:57 | S_a_i_n_t | that was the part I was referring to. |
| 18:55:00 | Dannyboy | yes |
| 18:55:06 | Dannyboy | it means i have to try and do the same |
| 18:55:51 | S_a_i_n_t | He mentions you could PM him for the file though. |
| 18:56:36 | Dannyboy | thats if hes still active on the forum |
| 18:56:39 | Dannyboy | its an old post |
| 18:57:23 | rasher | Dannyboy: I have unpatched firmwares if that's what you're after |
| 18:57:30 | Dannyboy | yes it is thanks |
| 18:57:35 | Dannyboy | for my iriver h140 |
| 18:57:48 | rasher | Dannyboy: rasher.dk/rockbox/iriver-firmwares/">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/iriver-firmwares/ |
| 18:58:23 | rasher | This will remove the Rockbox bootloader |
| 18:58:35 | rasher | Dannyboy: out of curiousity, why do you want to do this? |
| 18:58:48 | rasher | oh, I see now |
| 18:59:04 | pixelma | to find out if there is a hardware or a software problem... |
| 18:59:34 | rasher | Yeah, I wasn't aware there were bootloaders around that didn't let you boot OF |
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| 19:00:07 | pixelma | well, is the OF still around at all if you flashed a Rockbox build? |
| 19:00:17 | Dannyboy | so i download two files from that link? |
| 19:00:33 | Dannyboy | i need the original firmware, and patched version |
| 19:00:46 | Dannyboy | no wait i just need patched version |
| 19:02:11 | rasher | Dannyboy: There are no patched versions. Use Rockbox Utility to install |
| 19:02:12 | Dannyboy | ah that link you provided rasher is no good |
| 19:02:26 | Dannyboy | I need patched version because im using bootloader ver7 |
| 19:03:28 | rasher | Dannyboy: use http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/pub/Main/IriverBoot/fwpatcher.exe to generate a patched version |
| 19:03:46 | rasher | I assume there is now a way to flash from within Rockbox? |
| 19:03:57 | Dannyboy | yes there is |
| 19:04:17 | rasher | Well, use fwpatcher to patch a firmware downloaded from my site |
| 19:04:23 | Dannyboy | ok |
| 19:04:51 | rasher | Hm, when was the latest iriver bootloader release? |
| 19:04:54 | rasher | Dannyboy: hang on |
| 19:04:58 | Dannyboy | ok |
| 19:05:09 | rasher | The attached fwpatcher.exe is from 2006-07-11.. |
| 19:05:50 | rasher | I'm not sure there's been a release since then, but let's be sure you get the latest bootloader. |
| 19:05:58 | pixelma | last Iriver bootloader release is quite some time ago, and SVN bootloaders seem to be broken for at least the H300... |
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| 19:07:49 | rasher | Yeah, I think there's a good chance 2006-07-11 is v6 |
| 19:08:13 | Dannyboy | so now that i have patched the firmware, its ihp_120.hex |
| 19:08:14 | rasher | Ah, it even says so in the title of the app |
| 19:08:22 | Dannyboy | where do i get the ihp_120.bin version |
| 19:08:27 | rasher | Dannyboy: using fwpatcher.exe? |
| 19:08:33 | Dannyboy | yes i used that |
| 19:08:36 | rasher | Oh gosh, you need .bin for the rockbox version? |
| 19:08:41 | Dannyboy | yer i think so |
| 19:08:41 | rasher | rockbox flasher thing |
| 19:08:45 | rasher | Annoying |
| 19:09:42 | pamaury | this clip+ usb controller is driving me crazy |
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| 19:13:31 | Dannyboy | http://www.beermex.com/ihpfirm.exe |
| 19:13:44 | Dannyboy | could someone run that please and create me the patched firmware |
| 19:13:49 | Dannyboy | i dont undstand the command prompts |
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| 19:19:04 | rasher | Dannyboy: which firmware do you want? |
| 19:19:21 | Dannyboy | us version |
| 19:19:33 | Dannyboy | 166 |
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| 19:24:43 | funman | http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.3/changes.html says -fdirectives-only help ccache but i'm not sure how exactly: perhaps because preprocessing is faster? |
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| 19:25:53 | Dannyboy | any luck creating the .bin file rasher? |
| 19:26:23 | rasher | Dannyboy: yeah, see your private messages |
| 19:26:47 | Dannyboy | rasher: thanks sent email |
| 19:26:50 | Dannyboy | address |
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| 19:29:04 | kugel | funman: maybe it has special handling for minor stuff that could break ccache (like indentation or new lines) |
| 19:29:30 | funman | i don't understand how you can break ccache |
| 19:29:51 | funman | if preprocessor output isn't 100% identical then cached binary isn't used |
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| 19:30:06 | kugel | well, breaking as in make ccache not identify the preprocessed output as the same |
| 19:30:41 | funman | i'll measure the effect |
| 19:31:46 | kugel | new lines can make ccache not use the cached binary, so I suspect that option handles this |
| 19:32:00 | funman | not really, it just avoids macro expansion |
| 19:34:19 | kugel | ah yes, it's described a bit better in the gcc manual |
| 19:44:18 | funman | this screws up the preprocessing we use for Makefiles |
| 19:45:28 | kugel | we preprocess make files? |
| 19:45:48 | funman | no but SOURCES files |
| 19:46:03 | kugel | ah right |
| 19:47:26 | funman | -fno-directives-only in functions.make:*preprocess() seems to work |
| 19:49:58 | funman | kugel: i've tried to use gcc4.5.0 to build rockbox but without much success (i don't remember if the binary didn't boot or crashed but i didn't want to spend much time). In your experience, are all the .0 versions expected to cause trouble? |
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| 19:58:51 | kugel | funman: not expected, but it's not surprising |
| 19:59:18 | kugel | but we are lucky with 4.4.4, even later 4.3.x versions didn't work very well too |
| 19:59:27 | funman | using -fdirectives-only in GCCOPTS renders ccache mostly ineffective: without it 1st run 380s, 2nd run 80s; with it 1st run 395s, 2nd run 295s |
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| 20:00:24 | funman | looking at ccache-3.0, it doesn't 'inject' this option either |
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| 20:06:37 | funman | bertrik: http://pastie.org/1030239 |
| 20:07:27 | funman | cpufrqe patch + 248MHz for PLLA, seems to run on clipv2; i will see if the µSD problem is still there on fuzev2 |
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| 20:07:38 | funman | also this sets PCLK to 24.8MHz on clips |
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| 20:10:12 | bertrik | thanks, I saved it and have a look at it when my battery bench ends |
| 20:11:15 | funman | 384MHz PLLA & 240MHz FCLK still gives data aborts / stack overflow / weird things |
| 20:15:49 | bertrik | I think that 384 MHz with the 5/8 pre-div setting basically overclocks the CPU, even though the average speed is 240 MHz |
| 20:19:37 | funman | the patch seems to work on fuzev2, I will put it on flyspray |
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| 20:41:52 | paipimenta | dheads |
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| 20:45:34 | paipimenta | for anyone with familiarity with the iPod (Nano, specifically) ports... would it be necessary or helpful to develop the 2G and 3G ports before working on the 4G port? |
| 20:45:45 | bertrik | funman, this is also approximately how the OF does frequency switching, right? |
| 20:45:51 | funman | no |
| 20:46:58 | funman | the OF does either something quite stupid, either something too clever for me |
| 20:47:06 | saratoga_ | paipimenta: we already have a 2g port, which helps a lot if you want to work on a newer port |
| 20:47:50 | bertrik | Do you have an address in the OF where it does the switching? (I have the clip+ .09 disassembly) |
| 20:48:04 | paipimenta | saratoga_: thanks, I'm reading through http://l4n.clustur.com/index.php/Status right now... how can I get involved with the 2G port? |
| 20:48:50 | saratoga_ | paipimenta: its nearly stable at this point, so pick something in rockbox you're interested in and improve it |
| 20:48:58 | bertrik | I was hoping we could do something simpler, like just switch the processor between sync mode and fastbus mode (IIRC) |
| 20:49:20 | funman | fastbus/sync mode doesn't exist in arm926ej-s |
| 20:49:26 | bertrik | sure? |
| 20:49:53 | saratoga_ | i think its an arm9tdmi thing |
| 20:49:54 | funman | you have the technical manual for this CPU ? |
| 20:50:09 | bertrik | not sure if I have it, I'll have a look |
| 20:50:32 | paipimenta | what's the most open-source friendly mp3(ogg/flac) player out there? |
| 20:50:41 | funman | i'm sure i had posted C code on the forum but i can't find it again |
| 20:51:06 | bertrik | no, I don't have it, but I guess I can get it from the arm website |
| 20:52:43 | saratoga_ | funman: the AAC benchmarks you posted on flyspray were for pclk = 24MHz? |
| 20:53:00 | funman | yes i tried normal SVN |
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| 20:53:19 | funman | i don't carry patches in my builds unless i'm testing these patches explicitely |
| 20:53:34 | saratoga_ | do you happen to remember what MP3 is on current svn? |
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| 20:53:46 | saratoga_ | the benchmark speeds are all mixed up in my mind since some use fast pclk and other slow |
| 20:54:03 | funman | fuzev2 use 40MHz and clipv2/+ 24MHz |
| 20:54:16 | CIA-6 | New commit by bluebrother (r27284): Add generated files to svn:ignore. |
| 20:54:23 | funman | sorry i don't remember how mp3 performs these days |
| 20:55:05 | funman | bertrik: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14064.msg163547#msg163547 |
| 20:56:09 | CIA-6 | r27284 build result: All green |
| 20:57:12 | funman | bertrik: the function is at 0x236C in Clip+ OF 01.02.09 |
| 20:57:23 | bertrik | ok, thanks |
| 20:57:34 | bertrik | funman, this also looks like a multi-step procedure, just not using a precalculated table |
| 20:58:00 | funman | this looks like a severely broken and useless multi-step procedure |
| 20:58:50 | funman | the first steps are not smooth, so i'm wondering why the steps at all |
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| 21:01:05 | bertrik | amazing that we already get really nice runtimes even without unboosting :) |
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| 21:35:45 | bertrik | funman, it seems like things would have been easier if PCLK wasn't derived from FCLK, but directly from PLLA. Then there wouldn't have to be some mechanism to compensate PCLK for changes in FCLK. |
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| 21:37:40 | funman | true but things are too complex either |
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| 21:37:48 | funman | are not* |
| 21:42:30 | bertrik | yeah, the clock change procedure looks also quite fast |
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| 21:50:13 | funman | i just ran battery_bench on all my AMSv2. Results in a day or two O:-) |
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| 22:04:30 | bertrik | funman, once my clip+ battery benchmark ends, I think I'll experiment with making the clock switching a bit simpler |
| 22:06:18 | funman | IMO we should test the last patch on the tracker, confirm that it does indeed highers battery life, confirm that it doesn't cause crashes / microSD problems, commit it, and then enhance it |
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| 22:14:47 | funman | bertrik: that's for the "commit early" |
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| 23:37:39 | tagtype | does rockbox read ID3v2.4 and v2.3, or only v2.3 ? |
| 23:39:41 | simonrvn | reads all of them iirc. but i'm probably wrong. |
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| 23:41:34 | tagtype | I think I'm right but I could be wrong :-) |
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| 23:42:53 | tagtype | wrong time of day for questions, laters. thanks |
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