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#rockbox log for 2010-07-13

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00:02:05M4disonOpen a new command promt window (Windowskey+R->cmd.exe). CD to the 'rbinstall' folder ('cd Desktop\rbinstall')
00:02:33M4disondo I need to write : 'cd Desktop\rbinstall'
00:03:57M4disonhelp me please!
00:04:17bluebrotherM4dison: what are you trying to do?
00:04:34M4dison this for windows
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00:04:59M4disonI have done step 1-2-3-4
00:05:01bluebrotherThat's the page for the AMS Sansa players.
00:05:08M4disonI need the step 5
00:05:24bluebrotherI don't see any numbered steps on that page
00:05:51bluebrotherThere are bulleted lists, but no numbered lists on that page
00:05:52M4disonbottom page
00:06:09M4disonok I'm a t the 5th bullet
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00:07:02bluebrotherhave you read that "Automatic installation with RockboxUtility is recommended and far easier"?
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00:07:23M4disonyep but I can't see the sansa fuze V1
00:07:32bluebrother(plus, I still don't have _any_ idea which bullet you're referring to)
00:07:57M4disonOpen a new command promt window (Windowskey+R->cmd.exe). CD to the 'rbinstall' folder ('cd Desktop\rbinstall') this one
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00:08:44M4disonwhere is the automatic install for sansa fuze V1 ?
00:08:46bluebrotherwhy are you trying to install manuallyß
00:09:02M4disonbecause I can't find the automatic install for sansa fuze V1
00:09:14M4disonbecause I can't find the automatic install for sansa fuze V1
00:09:34bluebrotherso why aren't you just searching the page for "automatic installation"?
00:09:38bluebrotheror something similar?
00:10:01M4disonhey man, I have not time to waste
00:10:17pixelmabut we have?
00:10:21M4disonif you want help you are welcome, otherwise stop bother
00:10:25bluebrotherme neither. You want me to leave immediately?
00:10:43M4disonI have said 100 times I can't find automatic for fuze v1
00:10:49bluebrotherM4dison: watch your tone
00:11:02M4disonand you whatch your wordss
00:11:09bluebrotherPress Ctrl-F in your browser. Type "automatic install"
00:11:32M4disonI need automatic for my model
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00:12:04Mode"#rockbox +o bluebrother" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.)
00:12:37pixelmaM4dison: he wanted to help, (a) follow the link right above (b) you could probably have found it when following saratoga's advice about reading the manual. (3) if you get upset you won't get any help at all
00:12:46bluebrotherand have you followed that link? Does it say _anything_ that the linked automatic installation doesn't work on fuzev1?
00:13:17bluebrotherM4dison: and if you continue insulting people you have to face the reactions
00:13:30bluebrotherif you don't want help please leave.
00:14:01M4disonGuys you make cookie cutters and don't be snob with be. bye bye noobs with a shit of web and fail apps
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00:14:08bluebrotherThere's also the manual that includes the official instructions on how to install. It's pretty heavily linked:
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00:32:56S_a_i_n_tWell, that guy was a dick.
00:33:32S_a_i_n_tWe're noobs 'cos he can't figure out the installation...that's an interesting way of looking at it.
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01:38:27simonrvnhe has no time to waste, but does the manual install method. wth.
01:38:37*simonrvn sighs
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01:46:48n1swell, a quick unzip and run of your choice of patcher is usually faster from a CLI :)
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01:51:56simonrvnfor you and me maybe ;)
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02:02:04LargenumberI see that the website says the Sansa e260v2 is "supported", but there has been some confusion around the internet. I am asking: is it 100% supported?
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02:09:11*kugel now installs rockbox properly
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02:22:01*Strife89 was having some disk issues a little while ago but doesn't have enough evidence to say whether it was a problem with the disk itself, or Rockbox.
02:23:07Strife89Basically, I started one song, decided it wasn't the one I wanted to listen to, and (rather quickly) moved to another song in the file browser and loaded it.
02:23:35Strife89The disk proceeded to churn for a good two-three minutes, which seemed much longer than necessary.
02:24:33Strife89I did not use "Playlist->Insert" to load just the one song for either case; both times I loaded a song near the middle of a folder (alphabetically).
02:26:20Strife89The songs in question were VBR (as an example of quality, one averages 216 kbps) and are mostly 3-4 MB (time-wise, rather short tunes). Not really any particularly demanding codec.
02:27:53Strife89The DAP is an iPod Video 60GB (so it has 64 MB of RAM), currently running revision 27335 ("stock" build, no patches).
02:28:08Strife89Fixin' to update it, though.
02:28:58Strife89With all that said, any opinions on what the reason for the extended disk activity might have been?
02:31:15Strife89Notes on current settings:
02:31:22n1sStrife89: to start off, if you just click a song in a dir, the whole buffer will be flushed and as much music as possible will be buffered, so ~ 60MB (not that that should take minutes but a good few seconds at least)
02:31:42Strife89Antiskip: 30 seconds
02:31:46n1sassuming that the dir contains that much music
02:32:27Strife89This particular directory contained about 50 tracks of varying (but mostly <3 minutes) length.
02:32:38n1santiskip increases the size of and watermark (IIRC) of the decoded pcm bbuffer and so decreases the compressed audio buffer size
02:32:57Strife89dircache: on
02:33:04Strife89tagcache_ram: on
02:33:10n1sthat sounds like a full rebuffer, was anything like database update running at the time?
02:33:39Strife89Not that I'm aware of, but I do maintain the Database from time to time.
02:33:44Strife89Manually only, though.
02:34:15Strife89Theme: Azure (if it means anything) logging: on (not sure how often that writes to disk)
02:34:51n1soh, right what codec and are you using any dsp
02:35:13Strife89No DSP on. EQ, dithering, etc. all turned off.
02:35:26n1sbasically, anything that is accessing the disk or sucking a lot of cpu will slow down buffernig
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02:36:01*Strife89 hits the figurative reset button on his settings.
02:36:17n1sare they mp3 files?
02:36:31Strife89<Strife89> The songs in question were VBR (as an example of quality, one averages 216 kbps) and are mostly 3-4 MB (time-wise, rather short tunes). Not really any particularly demanding codec.
02:36:57Strife89... that is, as far as I'm aware.
02:37:56Strife89Fixin' to update and trash my settings in one go to see if there's any difference.
02:38:10Strife89I've backed up my .rockbox directory as usual.
02:38:33n1swell, different codecs make a difference, mp3 is very fast on PP while aac is pretty slow
02:39:27Strife89I understand that.
02:40:12Strife89I try to stick with ogg Vorbis and MP3 for this reason, since AFAIK they get respectable speeds on most, if not all, swcodec targets.
02:40:42n1syeah, vorbis is decent
02:41:42Strife89If I have access to the source (and the disk space to spare), I tend to rip to FLAC and leave it that way, disk-space-panic notwithstanding.
02:41:55Strife89How's FLAC's performance in general?
02:42:05n1sflack is *very* fast
02:42:10n1sflac, even
02:43:27Strife89I think I'll delete the database files, etc. in the root of .rockbox and rebuild those from scratch.
02:44:58Strife89Save my config file, which I'm just renaming.
02:48:31Strife89r2405, clean of cache files, booting ....
02:48:47joecoolhey, i would like to get tcctool working on the cowon j3. I do not have experience reverse-engineering firmwares, but I would imagine the process to get it working with the j3 would be similar to what was required with the s9
02:49:52joecooli waited a few days for linuxstb to pop in here figuring he'd know the most about tcctool, but is there anyone else who has a handle on it? (i have a bricked unit i'm willing to screw around with to get it working)
02:51:16Strife89I loaded the first song I played last time. Buffering took about 46 seconds.
02:51:49Strife89(Measured crudely by watching the song times until the disk stopped churning.)
02:53:08Strife89When Rockbox transitioned to the next song, it took about 5 seconds to update the WPS (which appeared to freeze during that time)
02:53:21n1sStrife89: i just remembered, it could be FS #11168
02:53:40*Strife89 looks it up.
02:55:13Strife89I surmise that the theme I was using used a similarly large-ish font.
02:55:27Strife89In fact .... *goes to check*
02:57:05Strife89Yep, it uses the exact same font as Cabbie v2.
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03:25:00saratogais crossfade expected to make volume changes lag?
03:28:47Strife89I made some changes to settings (including enabling dircache), rebooted, and then hit Initialize Now for the database,
03:29:17Strife89and I just noticed that it's apparently crashed with a completely blank screen.
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03:40:51S_a_i_n_tfwfw, I updated to 27398 and it is running *very* slowly.
03:41:22S_a_i_n_tSeems to be an awful lot of disk access also, and this is on flash targets, so I imagine HD targets would cop it worse.
03:41:44S_a_i_n_tStrife89: ^
03:43:15S_a_i_n_tIt isn't however, a clean build. (I have many a patch installed) But my build usually run very fast, probably no faster than SVN, but definitely not any slower (noticably)
03:44:20S_a_i_n_tI have just noticed that changing a theme/font etc. seems to take a number of seconds on my Nanos now when they used to load almost instantly
03:46:25JdGordondo a binchop
03:46:29JdGordonfigure out what done it
03:47:16S_a_i_n_tI'll put a clean SVN build on when I get home and see if it's just my build first.
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03:59:30Strife89n1s mentioned that it might have to do with FS #11168.
03:59:58S_a_i_n_tHmmm...I'll have a look at that flyspray entry shortly
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04:07:51S_a_i_n_tJdGordon: Did you still want those directional arrows for your Cowon's .sbs? <−−Imgur preview, and <−−Direct download
04:09:20JdGordonare they updated?
04:09:29JdGordoni have the ones you did ages ago still...
04:09:46S_a_i_n_tIt'll be slightly different to the last ones I did, yes.
04:10:08S_a_i_n_tthis one has large/small arrows, and I threw in a + and - sign also.
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04:38:23CIA-6New commit by funman (r27406): genlang-features: simplify generation
04:40:55CIA-6r27406 build result: All green
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04:59:45S_a_i_n_tPictureflow is *awfully* slow on a Nano1G now with music playing.
05:00:05S_a_i_n_tIt used to run perfectly, and only the Nano2G was affected in this way.
05:00:31S_a_i_n_tNow, it seems both the Nanos have fallen victim to whatever it is causing the slowdown/choppyness.
05:02:04S_a_i_n_tHmmm, yes. With playback paused, Pictureflow runs fine. Commence playback and it runs like a bag of crap :-/
05:05:24S_a_i_n_t59fps with playback paused, 25 whilst playing.
05:09:40Dhraakellianand isn't Nano1G a monochrome target?
05:14:40*Dhraakellian might be thinking of the non-nano 1G?
05:15:04Dhraakelliancoverflow on the Clip+ is... odd
05:15:08Dhraakelliannot so much as Doom on the clip+
05:16:11Strife89Dhraakellian: Or perhaps the Mini line.
05:16:56*Dhraakellian is a Sansa guy anyway, so ignore his ramblings when it comes to the Apple stuff?
05:24:34*S_a_i_n_t ignores Dhraakellian's ramblings about everything ;)
05:24:54Dhraakelliannice to know I'm loved on the interwebz
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06:44:38saratogadid someone just manage to spam the rockbox-committers list?
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06:59:13scorchelooks like it
07:01:00joecoolis there something I can do to get Cowon J3 support added to tcctool? should I write into mailing list or is there any information I can provide?
07:03:03joecoolI have a bricked unit, will probably return if the dev community here sees no interest (S9 support was not added so long ago but I am unsure with how this guy did it )
07:03:53saratogajoecool: if you're not working on it I wouldn't count on someone else to do it for you
07:03:55joecoolthe two units are fairly similar, I did try to run the tool on the J3 with the S9 settings (and J3 firmware of course), which reported back successfully but still does not power on
07:06:07joecoolsaratoga: no, I would like to work on it, I just need to know what to look for and see if anyone would be helpful here. I'm looking to track down the SDCFG to modify tcctool with
07:06:23saratogawhat does the SDCFG register do?
07:07:59joecoolapparently the SDRAM is different for the J3 model, I do not know too many details, just started looking into doing this now
07:09:07saratogaif its just the SDRAM configuration, its probably not too hard to guess a working value
07:09:39saratogai expect picking the slowest timings for everything is unlikely to fail
07:10:02joecoolwhich from what i gathered is what they did with the s9 to get it working
07:10:30joecoolyes it is the configuration
07:18:14joecoolok i think i can do this
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08:05:28joecoolYEAH FUCK YEAH
08:05:34joecool(sorry for language)
08:05:36joecooli unbricked it
08:05:52joecooli'll provide the value to you guys in a sec so you can commit to SVN
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08:11:00joecoolmight have to look at the vfat driver though on linux though.... does not seem to play nice with the j3
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08:11:24joecoolthat or the eject command, we'll see... something is weird going on but it's def unbricked
08:13:58joecool {"cowonj3", "Cowon J3", 0xb057, 0x20000000, 0xaaac7800 }
08:15:10joecool^^ there you are, works
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08:50:50joecoolum.. i think the value for the S9 should be the same as mine as well
08:51:14joecooli did another search and that joey guy used the same one on the S9.... the value that's in SVN might be wrong
08:51:30joecoollemme find the post
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08:56:51knittlhi. was there a bug in recent rockbox builds where during a song another song would play for a few seconds?
08:57:00knittl(sansa e200v2)
08:58:55S_a_i_n_tknittl: Dunno, check the bug tracker.
08:59:20knittlno time now ^^
09:01:40knittland i really don't what keywords to use ;)
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09:07:10joecoolit would appear that it's a different value depending on the size of the storage for the s9 or j3
09:07:22joecoolso the 32gb j3 probably has the same value as the 32gb s9
09:07:42joecoolthat's just a guess, but i'm about 90% sure that's the case
09:08:02joecooli'll have to brick my friend's S9 and give it a shot :)
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12:09:33kugelgevaerts: I fixed to properly install rockbox (not only the app, but also the sim and target builds). I could commit it separately but it's incompatible with RaaA in svn
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12:09:48gevaertsgreat :)
12:10:24gevaertsMaybe commit the new first and then the RaaA fix? RaaA isn't autobuilt yet
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12:26:43JdGordonmc2739: ping
12:28:45kugelgevaerts: using the install tool is ok, isn't it?
12:29:40gevaertson linux it's going to be generally available I think. I don't know about cygwin. I suspect it's fine, but maybe someone should check
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12:30:04gevaertsit's in coreutils on my system
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12:42:30kugelgevaerts: I suspect most installations from source in cygwin would fail if it wasn't there
12:42:56kugelalthough the way I use install in it's interchangeable with cp
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13:26:35mc2739JdGordon: pong
13:26:59JdGordonhey, I was giong to ask you for the widecabbie theme but found one that crashes also
13:28:10mc2739ok, I meant to upload it to the task, but I guess I forgot
13:28:46JdGordonI've got the progressbar working, and I tihnk the same problem caused the image clipping
13:30:42JdGordonjust gotta get this stupid crash to stop happening
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13:37:12JdGordonwhy the hell does cabbie's progressbar work but no other themes?
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13:38:35mc2739maybe because cabbie does not use viewports
13:38:51S_a_i_n_tbieber: pingerooney?
13:40:16JdGordonmc2739: good call! that must be it... now why the FUCK would that make a difference? :'(
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13:48:25mc2739JdGordon: on e200v2, switching themes it will sometimes crash with a data abort at address 3002737c - according to the map file, that is find_viewport in skin_parser.c
13:49:46JdGordonI'm beggining to think that is actually the case
13:49:46JdGordonit seriously doesnt make sense!
13:49:46JdGordonwhen all else fails... comment out code!
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13:50:30JdGordonok thanks
13:51:41JdGordonone problem at a time though :)
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14:20:37kugelgevaerts: have you had a look at my git tree (the gsoc-dir-split branch) in the meanwhile?
14:21:08gevaertsnot yet
14:21:21gevaertsyesterday evening was a bit busy
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14:59:03kugelS_a_i_n_t: can you check if install is available in cygwin?
14:59:11kugelinstall −−help should do it
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16:52:52esj123I am a bit confused about my player. Did the due diligence and I'm further confused. The player is a sansa e260v2. The firmware says it's v1 (01.02.24a). The rockbox autoidentify utility doesn't recognize the device
16:53:14CIA-6New commit by kugel (r27409): Oops, remove leftovers
16:54:10gevaertsesj123: if the firmware says v1, it's v1. Did you buy it new or refurbished?
16:54:42gevaertsIt's not uncommon for refurbished players to have the wrong case, so a v1 might say v2 on the back
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16:55:24gevaertsIf rockbox utility doesn't recognise the device, I'd guess it's in MTP mode instead of MSC, but I'm not sure
16:55:25esj123it's a refurbished unit I assume by the R embossed on the back in a careless way. It was a gift from a friend of mine after he found an iPod nano at a flea market for $15
16:55:52esj123let me verify the mode yet again
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16:57:24esj123Settings-USB mode msc
16:57:53esj123so that's the right mode for this application
16:57:59gevaertsit is, yes
16:58:10esj123that's interesting that they don't always get the right cases on refurbished units
16:58:46gevaertsActually, I'm not sure if anyone has ever reported a refurbished sansa that had the correct case :)
16:58:49esj123I should take it back for a refund... oh wait, I got it for free. :-)
16:59:43esj123Sounds like I'm probably not being a complete idiot with this.
16:59:49gevaertsWhich operating system are you using? Windows?
17:00:45esj123Windows 7. it's a downside of being hand disabled (RSI)
17:01:34gevaertsOK, I don't know anything about rockbox utility on windows 7. Maybe device detection is a bit broken there...
17:01:42*gevaerts looks around for people who do know
17:02:41esj123well, I can flip over to Linux (dual-boot machine)
17:03:09esj123I'm just not sure how the USB/music player interface will go
17:03:35n1susb usually works fine in linux
17:03:43pixelmais the mode literally called "MSC"?
17:04:37esj123okay. Let me go get breakfast before I try this. :-)
17:05:56esj123One thing I really dislike about the transition between Windows and Linux is that I use a Bluetooth keyboard for when I do type and I have to re-pair the keyboard every time I make a switch. Wish there was someway to use the same pairing on both sides
17:06:43esj123okay, I'll be back after a take care of a few morning things I appreciate the help and attention
17:07:04n1shmm, why do libcook and libatrac include ffmpeg_bitstream.c in their own SOURCES instead of building it as a part of the codec lib, and also why does libwma have its own copy of the ffmpeg bitstream.[ch] ?
17:07:19gevaertspixelma: I think so, at least in some versions
17:11:15pixelmagevaerts: I just tried to make sure it's not an "R"...
17:11:25gevaertsoh, right
17:11:30pixelmaor at least that was my intention
17:12:13n1ssaratoga: ah, and i suppose there would be a symbol clash with the lib for wma if the lib included the bitstream.c
17:12:14*gevaerts of course hadn't thought of that
17:13:05pixelmaesj123: just making sure - the USB options in the OF are not called "Plays for sure" or "Rhapsody"?
17:13:20saratogacombining them makes sense though if it can be done cleanly
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17:14:50esj123yes I am
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17:15:19gevaertsok, it's definitely a plain e200v1 then
17:15:26n1ssaratoga: yes, i'll take a look
17:16:27n1shmm, wma compiles cleanly with the c file in the codec lib at least
17:18:43esj123msc and mtp are the modes
17:22:27saratogadoes it play? the svn message mentions alignment issues
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17:26:00n1ssaratoga: no, i meant if i add the ffmpeg_bitstream.c to the lib sources instead of libatrac and libcook, it seems to not interfere with the wma version
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18:49:17kugelhm, the database crashes in the app
18:50:55kugelI assume it cannot deal with the number of files
18:53:56kugelor stack overflow
18:55:04kugelyea, check_dir
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18:56:22kugelmaybe it would be a good idea to disallow building the database over / in RaaA
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18:58:05gevaertsWill that solve the problem?
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18:59:01kugeluhm, depends what you mean with solve
18:59:56kugelbut if we want to give the users 1 (or more) music dirs to mount into the file browser, then going through the entire filesystem doesn't make much sense
19:00:05gevaertsthat's true
19:01:49gevaertsI think it's worth considering increasing directory-recursive stacks for RaaA too though. We're not going to run this on 2MB devices
19:02:38kugelwe have no control over the stack on hosted systems
19:03:06kugelnot with sdl at least. pth gives some control
19:03:12gevaertsright, we ignore the given stack size...
19:03:28gevaertsIsn't the default stack on linux 8MB or so?
19:03:35kugelI'm not even sure anymore if it's really the stack. but check_dir() calls itself and I get a segfault so I suspected that
19:04:48gevaertsI'm pretty sure it's something different
19:07:26kugelit crashes in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-22-generic/, which has a lot of symlinks
19:07:54gevaertshm, maybe recursive symlinks?
19:08:07gevaertspossibly breaking PATH_MAX
19:08:34kugelour MAX_PATH is probably quite easy to break from /
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19:19:06kugelgevaerts: "virt -> ../linux-headers-2.6.32-22/virt" :/
19:19:22gevaertsThis gets tricky :)
19:20:15gevaertskugel: is the path argument to get_user_file_path() supposed to *always* begin with ROCKBOX_DIR?
19:20:32kugelotherwise it doesn't work
19:20:58gevaertsIn that case, I'd just say "end=path+strlen(ROCKBOX_DIR)"
19:21:17kugelhm, not a bad idea
19:21:36gevaertspossibly if DEBUG is defined a strncpy() first to check if it's correct
19:23:18*gevaerts apologises
19:23:23kugelno problem!
19:23:34gevaertsdoes gcc detect this strlen(fixed string) and optimise it away? If not, maybe store this, it's a bit silly to calculate the length of a compile-time constant every time
19:23:50kugelsizeof(ROCKBOX_DIR) works as well
19:24:00kugelsee paths.h :p
19:24:11gevaertsoh, you have ROCKBOX_DIR_LEN already
19:24:36gevaertspaths.c is before paths.h in the diff I'm looking at :)
19:24:52kugelit doesn't seem to be used so far, I don't #define it for RaaA (per accident)
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19:37:10gevaertskugel: I think I have two questions/observations: (a) Did you check if gcc optimises the if()strcpy() away if FORCE_BUFFER_COPY is not set? If not, that looks like it could be a bad (and useless) binsize impact, and (b), you're adding a lot of MAX_PATH strings to the stack. Possibly dangerous I think, these aren't small (needs testing).
19:37:18gevaertsHm, (b) might be optimised away as well...
19:37:22gevaerts(or should be)
19:37:46gevaertsAren't we counting on compiler smartness a bit too much for these?
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19:39:07kugelgevaerts: (a) yes I did, (b) any idea how to solve that?
19:39:26kugeland for target builds it's optimized away as well yes
19:39:40gevaertsok, maybe that's good enough then
19:40:06gevaertspirlouwi: hello
19:40:14kugelwe can only count on gcc smartness if we want to do it cheap
19:40:54gevaertsIt doesn't generate "unused variable" warnings?
19:40:57*gevaerts hopes not...
19:41:14pirlouwiHow can I learn how to detect the hardware running Rockbox, test if it is an ipod hw_rev >=4 ??
19:41:28pirlouwihi gevaerts
19:42:23kugelthe FORCE_BUFFER_COPY was just because playlist.c has an extra strlcpy which could be removed with that. without that it could even be a #define (although a define will be a bit more tricky for plugins)
19:42:33kugelgevaerts: unfortunately no :)
19:42:50kugelinlining really solves many problem at once :p
19:43:41gevaertsinlining is fine. I'm just very slightly nervous about declaring a 256 byte stack variable, passing that to an inline function that throws it away, and hoping that gcc decides not to put it on the stack
19:44:15kugelI didn't check all spots, but those I checked it was removed
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19:46:54kugelbut I guess it would throw that unused warning if it's not removed
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19:50:05amiconnr27406 seems to be broken. If it would just change the way 'features' is generated without breaking it, there should be no binsize changes
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19:50:16PirlouwiHi again
19:51:02PirlouwiI ask it one more time ('cause I was disconnected). How can I learn how to detect the hardware running Rockbox, test if it is an ipod hw_rev >=4 ??
19:51:26amiconnWhy would you want to do that? There is no reason to check that at runtime
19:51:28PirlouwiI made a little patch, only valid for ipod version 4 and upper
19:51:40Pirlouwithis is the reason
19:52:22amiconnThere is no reason to check at runtime. You probably want a compile time check
19:52:45Pirlouwiyes you are right, this should do the trick
19:53:14Pirlouwiis there compile #define reserved for that?
19:53:25Pirlouwiwhat should I search, in which file?
19:53:51amiconnAtm there is no macro for a generic check like this. Either check for the individual models, or check for IPOD_ARCH and CPU_PP502x
19:54:15amiconnWhat kind of patch is that?
19:54:43amiconnIf it's wheel related, you may need to specifically exclude the mini 1st Gen
19:54:46PirlouwiI read in rockbox doc that there were no support for hardware keyclick (when rotating the wheel)
19:55:01PirlouwiI found in ipod linux bootloader the code that does it
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19:55:30Pirlouwithis is only a question of 10 lines of code in action.c
19:55:35amiconnIt's not a problem to control the piezo as such. It is a problem to do it properly in rockbox though
19:55:41Pirlouwibut I must test the ipod version and the presence of the ipod
19:56:01PirlouwiThough, I tested it on my ipod color, and it does the job
19:56:59PirlouwiIf you have an ipod, you could perhaps test my patch ? do you agree?
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20:36:02gevaertskugel: do you need more specific reviews?
20:36:27kugelno, but a general yes/no to the idea would be fine. but I guess I'll ask again on the mailing list
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21:20:09foehndoes someone know the performance of mp3_enc on arm9e ?
21:24:23amiconnHmm, that's actually a useful suggestion for test_codec (or a complementary plugin): testing encoder performance
21:32:03Pirlouwiamiconn: I just posted a patch concerning the Ipod Color hardware keyclick.
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22:57:07n1shmm, neither of our 3 versions of ffmpeg bitstream.[ch] are in sync with either each other or ffmpeg git :)
22:57:50n1sI'll save this mess for another day...
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