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| 01:16:00 | saratoga | n1s: skimming the code, it looks to me like the windows in wma of size N and element X contain the same values as the IMDCT trig table of size 2*N and element 2*X+1 |
| 01:16:27 | saratoga | so i think we could merge all but the largest table (since there isn't an IMDCT table large enough for the biggest one) |
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| 07:43:03 | kraai | Revision 27446 broke the wma codec build for the Sansa Clip; it now fails to build with "wma.elf section `.bss' will not fit in region `PLUGIN_RAM'" and "region `PLUGIN_RAM' overflowed by 5456 bytes". |
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| 09:46:40 | CIA-6 | New commit by mt (r27452): Enable ff_copy_bits in ffmpeg_bitstream.c and put_bits.h and intreadwrite.h to codeclib. |
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| 09:53:18 | CIA-6 | New commit by mt (r27453): More cleaning for libwmapro; use codeclib's bitstream functions and drop those from the libwmapro. |
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| 10:09:19 | CIA-6 | New commit by mt (r27455): libwmapro : remove dead/unneeded code from wma.[ch] |
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| 10:19:08 | CIA-6 | New commit by mt (r27456): libwmapro no longer needs libm in the sim; update the makefile and README.rockbox. |
| 10:20:09 | pixelma | the build errors get a bit irritating... |
| 10:20:40 | CIA-6 | r27456 build result: 6 errors, 0 warnings (mt committed) |
| 10:21:59 | mt | iirc n1s knows about it and said he would fix it later. |
| 10:22:17 | n1s | yes |
| 10:22:24 | n1s | i'm working on it |
| 10:22:52 | mt | great :) |
| 10:23:14 | * | mt thinks he can now say : Let the optimisations begin ! |
| 10:25:51 | n1s | mt: did you fix the freezes in wmapro? |
| 10:26:15 | mt | what freezes ? |
| 10:27:38 | mt | n1s: btw, the codec buffer on those 3 small mem targets is ~288K ? |
| 10:28:24 | n1s | both my sim and h300 froze when i tried wmapro yesterday |
| 10:28:33 | n1s | yeah, 288k IIRC |
| 10:29:24 | amiconn | There are more problems |
| 10:29:43 | amiconn | libwmapro doesn't even build when crosscompiling for win32, or when compiling on cygwin |
| 10:31:58 | mt | n1s: is your system big endian ? |
| 10:32:59 | mt | amiconn: The problem in that case is in firmware/include/file.h not seeing our sys/types.h |
| 10:33:22 | amiconn | eh, wait |
| 10:33:38 | CIA-6 | New commit by nls (r27457): Begin shoehorning wma into the clip codec buffer again. Reduce the static buffer used by init_vlc so that it is no larger than is needed. Make the ... |
| 10:34:02 | n1s | mt: not my computer, no |
| 10:34:13 | n1s | i'll try again, just to make sure |
| 10:34:20 | mt | Alright |
| 10:35:14 | CIA-6 | r27457 build result: 6 errors, 0 warnings (nls committed) |
| 10:36:07 | mt | regarding the win32 sim cross compile issue; if the line #include <sys/types.h> in file.h is changed to #include "../libc/sys/types.h", compilation will continue without errors. (at least that how it worked for me) |
| 10:36:23 | n1s | yeah, the sim freezes and starts sucking lots of cpu and i have to kill it so it looks like an endless loop |
| 10:36:44 | n1s | i tried with one of the files saratoga added to the test_files |
| 10:36:59 | mt | that's weird |
| 10:37:26 | mt | n1s : which one ? |
| 10:37:34 | amiconn | It seems to work now |
| 10:37:49 | amiconn | (r27456) |
| 10:39:47 | amiconn | Ah, you removed the need for types.h in r27454. That's probably it |
| 10:40:33 | n1s | mt: all of them, although the highest bitrate one plays a few seconds first, the others freeze without any sound ever coming out |
| 10:40:41 | amiconn | Calling a header file the same as a system header is calling for trouble. So it's good that it has been removed |
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| 10:41:43 | * | mt slaps forehead |
| 10:41:54 | mt | never thought of that last night |
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| 10:44:32 | mt | n1s: Ah it's failing for me .. I'll see what's that about. |
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| 10:49:23 | CIA-6 | New commit by nls (r27458): Remove unused 2kB buffer and some dead code. |
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| 10:57:33 | CIA-6 | New commit by nls (r27459): libwma: Reduce size of runtab and levtab buffers, only one set can get the worst case size so make the other set the second worst case size. |
| 10:59:02 | CIA-6 | r27459 build result: 6 errors, 0 warnings (nls committed) |
| 10:59:54 | n1s | does anyone know where i can find a 16kbps wma file to test my last size optimization? |
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| 11:13:57 | CIA-6 | New commit by mt (r27460): Increase the size of quant table in libwmapro to accomodate more values for exp. Fixes wma pro failure on test files in ... |
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| 11:22:55 | mt | n1s: I can make you a 15kbps or a 19kbps file if you want |
| 11:23:25 | n1s | yes! that would be great :) |
| 11:23:53 | n1s | i want one that uses lsp, saratoga said that is only used at 16kbps or so |
| 11:27:00 | wodz | do we have "flush cache" ata command implemented? |
| 11:28:00 | n1s | according to wikipedia lsp is used for less than 17kbps so 15 would be good |
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| 11:30:53 | mt | n1s: 15k coming your way then :) |
| 11:30:58 | n1s | sweet |
| 11:31:32 | mt | there : http://mtarek.com/rockbox/wma_15k.wma |
| 11:32:17 | n1s | thanks! |
| 11:32:54 | mt | you're welcome |
| 11:34:58 | Grahack | Hi all, I just run rockboxdev.sh and encountered a dependency problem. After the fix, the script stopped because I had to delete manually /tmp/rbdev-build/build-binu-e/, then it complain again and I had to delete manually /tmp/rbdev-build/build-gcc-e/. Don't you think it would be nice to call 'cleardir $builddir $arch' it the dirs exist at around line 300 of rockboxdev.sh ? |
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| 11:55:41 | CIA-6 | New commit by mt (r27461): Check for errors from decode_packet in wmapro.c |
| 11:57:18 | CIA-6 | r27461 build result: 6 errors, 0 warnings (mt committed) |
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| 12:16:40 | * | JdGordon has a wild stab in the dark and assumes noone who cares about themeing is online? |
| 12:16:51 | JdGordon | I want to change the %Xd() tag... |
| 12:17:25 | pixelma | how? |
| 12:19:47 | JdGordon | there is no reason to force single letter labels anymore, so that is an easy change, but then how is Xd supposed to handle subimage loading? |
| 12:20:03 | JdGordon | so I want to change to %Xd(label [,subimage NUMBER]) |
| 12:20:23 | pixelma | subimages for the backdrop? |
| 12:20:33 | JdGordon | xd() |
| 12:20:42 | JdGordon | whateveer the image display tag is |
| 12:21:04 | JdGordon | I could add support to allow people who want %xd(Aa) to keep working fairly easily |
| 12:23:06 | pixelma | I don't see much of an advantage with this label thing, especially with subimages it makes for a lot longer lines in the code |
| 12:23:57 | JdGordon | because you dont understand the next stepw hcih I explained last time I brought this up... change the subimage part to an enum-able tag |
| 12:24:05 | JdGordon | %xd(shuffle, %ps) |
| 12:24:45 | pixelma | seperating main "ID" and subimage "ID" with a comma might make sense though probably breaks themes again |
| 12:24:51 | JdGordon | %?ps<%Xd(Sa)|%xd(Sb)> |
| 12:25:18 | pixelma | I understand the latter much better |
| 12:25:35 | pixelma | (except %Xd...) |
| 12:26:17 | JdGordon | definetly does |
| 12:33:09 | * | JdGordon wont change anything in this mammoth patch and leaves it for later |
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| 12:40:02 | CIA-6 | New commit by nls (r27462): libwma: Reuse a static buffer that was unused while decoding lsp files for some lsp related tables. |
| 12:40:27 | n1s | that should do it |
| 12:40:59 | * | JdGordon is finshed replacing the old skin parser! |
| 12:41:19 | JdGordon | so testing help needed... or expect lots of bug fix commits |
| 12:41:31 | CIA-6 | r27462 build result: 0 errors, 10 warnings (nls committed) |
| 12:41:49 | n1s | darnit |
| 12:42:37 | n1s | ahaha, the older gcc decided i break strict aliasign, sigh |
| 12:45:39 | JdGordon | (add/remove: 42/26 grow/shrink: 10/19 up/down: 14723/-13000) |
| 12:45:39 | JdGordon | Total: 1723 bytes |
| 12:47:58 | pixelma | any specific reason it adds something in binsize? Because you said code would be cleaner and more simple, so I'd expect smaller binsize in the end too |
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| 12:53:26 | JdGordon | wtf? did my reply go through? |
| 12:55:41 | pixelma | doesn't look like it did |
| 12:56:11 | JdGordon | the new parser is about 7K, I'm not down to under 1K added |
| 12:56:51 | JdGordon | the new parser being bieber's libskin_parser |
| 12:57:42 | CIA-6 | New commit by nls (r27463): libwma: void pointer voodoo to get rid ov strict aliasing warnings |
| 12:59:12 | CIA-6 | r27463 build result: All green |
| 12:59:18 | n1s | \o/ |
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| 13:01:51 | JdGordon | is it better to do a lseek to 0 or open and close the file twice? |
| 13:02:03 | JdGordon | is one much faster than the other? |
| 13:02:07 | JdGordon | I assume seeking is better? |
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| 13:04:45 | n1s | mt: wmapro plays fine in my sim now and seems to play fine on h300, evn the 55k sample is far from realtime though |
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| 13:05:50 | mt | n1s: great. How slow is it though on h300 ? Could you do a speed test when you're free ? |
| 13:06:42 | CIA-6 | New commit by bertrik (r27464): Walloon language update - FS #11039 by Stéphane Quertinmont |
| 13:07:42 | n1s | mt: i have one running now |
| 13:08:23 | CIA-6 | r27464 build result: All green |
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| 13:08:31 | CIA-6 | New commit by nls (r27465): Delete unused header |
| 13:08:55 | wodz | I keep asking: Are there any objections to commit FS #11324? |
| 13:09:53 | CIA-6 | New commit by nls (r27466): Oops, revert unintentional commit |
| 13:10:11 | CIA-6 | r27465 build result: All green |
| 13:10:22 | mt | n1s: Thanks |
| 13:10:29 | n1s | mt: the 55k sample is 63.5% realtime |
| 13:10:43 | JdGordon | wodz: probably not... you'll hear about it on the mailing list if there are :p |
| 13:10:50 | mt | aw .. alright |
| 13:12:30 | bertrik | wodz, I'm sure it looks nice but to be honest I don't really see the point of beautifying a debug menu |
| 13:12:30 | n1s | mt: are you using the codeclib mdct? |
| 13:12:30 | n1s | anyway, iram makes a *big* difference on coldfire |
| 13:12:39 | CIA-6 | r27466 build result: 33 errors, 0 warnings (nls committed) |
| 13:13:31 | n1s | ? |
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| 13:13:46 | mt | n1s: no I'm not using codeclib's mdct |
| 13:14:38 | n1s | mt: if you do that and some basic iram usage for the hottest data i think it'll make a big difference on cf |
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| 13:16:03 | n1s | ah, those errors weren't mine |
| 13:17:23 | * | JdGordon needs to start fixing checkwps :/ |
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| 13:21:16 | n1s | ah, it's using the codeclib fft for mdct so switching to the codeclib mdct will probably not make such a big speed difference, it will be cleaner though :) |
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| 13:28:41 | n1s | mt: what do you think about limiting the wmapro decoder to 2 channels, it will reduce memory requirements greatly and make it easier to use iram, also i don't think we'll see 7.1 channel DAPs any time soon :) |
| 13:29:08 | CIA-6 | New commit by wodz (r27467): Beautify view_battery() graph in debug menu. FS #11324 by me |
| 13:30:00 | n1s | most other decoders do this even if the format supports multichannel |
| 13:30:38 | CIA-6 | r27467 build result: All green |
| 13:31:54 | mt | n1s: Actually, I wanted to add a down-mixing feature to the codec .. certainly wasn't relying on the possibility of a 7.1 channel DAP ;) |
| 13:33:32 | n1s | ok, maybe a special case can be made for stereo then since i think that is probably the most common |
| 13:33:55 | mt | Yeah |
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| 13:37:12 | JdGordon | good news kugel... my latest patch removes the stupidly crazy buffer alloc stuff :) |
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| 13:38:04 | mt | kugel: That types.h error was fixed. Turned out to be libwmapro's types.h that was causing the trouble. |
| 13:38:48 | CIA-6 | New commit by wodz (r27468): HD200: Add timeout in usb_enable(false) to prevent infinite loop when something goes wrong. |
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| 13:41:45 | wodz | this random build system errors are rather irritating |
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| 14:19:29 | JdGordon | bieber: ping |
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| 14:34:52 | bertrik | Do we have documentation of the ipod remote FM protocol? |
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| 15:06:54 | wodz | Who is 'icon guy' in rockbox? |
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| 15:09:49 | JdGordon | woohoo! (add/remove: 31/44 grow/shrink: 24/13 up/down: 14036/-14971) |
| 15:10:38 | JdGordon | Total: -935 bytes |
| 15:10:39 | JdGordon | wodz: depends what side of icons you want... |
| 15:11:41 | JdGordon | hehe woops :p ordered the files backwards |
| 15:11:50 | wodz | I would like to have simple 2bit 'charging' icon(s) to be used in bootloader |
| 15:14:55 | JdGordon | simplest way is bin2c a bmp and manually draw it with lcd_put_bmp() or whatever that function is |
| 15:16:29 | wodz | Thats clear. The hard part is manually draw :-). I am not good with art |
| 15:16:59 | gevaerts | JdGordon: is this against svn head? |
| 15:18:03 | JdGordon | unless I messed up the git svn command |
| 15:18:04 | JdGordon | git svn rebase; no? |
| 15:18:22 | gevaerts | apps/gui/skin_engine/skin_buffer.c is claimed to be reversed |
| 15:18:39 | JdGordon | ignore that file, it is deleted |
| 15:18:42 | gevaerts | Also apps/gui/skin_engine/skin_buffer.h |
| 15:18:44 | gevaerts | ok |
| 15:18:48 | JdGordon | ditto that one |
| 15:21:30 | JdGordon | yeah, not sure what happened, but the trackers output for the diff changed with the last few patches |
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| 15:24:44 | gevaerts | JdGordon: it behaves a bit weirdly |
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| 15:27:11 | gevaerts | JdGordon: when I start playback first it renders the non-AA WPS (AA not found yet presumably), then it switches to the AA variant. When that switch happens, the old conditional viewports are not cleared |
| 15:27:40 | gevaerts | If I then leave the WPS and re-enter it, it's fine (as expected) |
| 15:27:51 | JdGordon | ok, im going to bed, can you put that in the tracker? |
| 15:27:53 | gevaerts | Scrolling seems to be broken |
| 15:28:04 | JdGordon | its probbaly because it starts displaying too quickly and the aa isnt ready yet |
| 15:28:18 | gevaerts | yes, that's clear, but it should clear this later on |
| 15:28:40 | gevaerts | Scrolling *sometimes* works after I stop playback, before it goes back to the menu |
| 15:35:46 | bertrik | Are there any developers with an ipod fm remote? |
| 15:36:43 | bertrik | Accessories are not on the RockboxTesting wiki page |
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| 15:40:17 | kugel | what the heck: http://pastie.org/1048518 |
| 15:41:51 | kugel | after the compilation it pasted the news into the shell |
| 15:43:16 | kugel | hm, was probably my bad |
| 15:43:22 | wodz | bertrik: FM remote - You mean FM transmitter? |
| 15:44:32 | bertrik | no, there is an FM remote accessory for ipods that receives FM |
| 15:44:59 | wodz | I see. |
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| 16:00:59 | bertrik | Do we have a policy on accepting language patches where the translated text (excepting trivial stuff like "OK") is exactly the same as the english text? |
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| 16:01:43 | bertrik | I'm looking through some language patches on the tracker and I see this happen for some texts. |
| 16:02:00 | gevaerts | I think those should be avoided |
| 16:02:46 | pixelma | huh? |
| 16:03:27 | gevaerts | bertrik: do you have an example? |
| 16:03:43 | pixelma | I don't think you can establish a policy for that. It could be common to use that in the language too |
| 16:03:44 | bertrik | I think it makes the translation appear more complete than it really is |
| 16:04:05 | pixelma | not everything differs from English |
| 16:04:08 | bertrik | gevaerts, http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11484 for example |
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| 16:05:01 | bertrik | for example, "<Untagged>" is translated, but "Advanced Tone Control Settings" is not |
| 16:05:43 | gevaerts | Maybe just ask? |
| 16:07:16 | pixelma | I'd ask about it. But you are correct to be carefull adding those, if they are not translated then adding them would make them not appear as a "still to be translated" phrase and might be forgotten |
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| 16:10:29 | bertrik | Are these literal english translations some kind of side-effect of rasher's translation page if the translator forgets to translate a text? |
| 16:12:58 | rasher | bertrik: well the same thing happens if you do it manually and accidentally skip a phrase |
| 16:13:23 | rasher | the "problems" page lists these |
| 16:14:37 | kugel | ok, r19146 definitely broke simulator defining DEBUG |
| 16:14:50 | rasher | bertrik: if it's obvious that they were accidents, I'd apply the patch, then delete the untranslated phrases from the resulting .lang |
| 16:15:44 | bertrik | rasher, I'll ask first and probably do that when I haven't received a reply in a week or so |
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| 16:39:39 | bertrik | Rockbox translations are doing quite well now, with 22 translations having status "good" or "complete" |
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| 16:57:35 | bieber | JdGordon1: You called? |
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| 17:01:42 | riad | heh, I just tried out the Finnish translation. "Vapina"? Not that I can think of a better translation for "dithering" (even with the help of a dictionary), but I certainly couldn't tell what that option would do by the name alone |
| 17:01:54 | riad | I guess this is why I hate using stuff translated into my native tongue. |
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| 17:26:41 | bertrik | AlexP, in r24424 you committed a chinese-simp translation, but are you sure about the name of the author? |
| 17:27:18 | bertrik | You credited him as Purling Yukie, but his flyspray name is Purling.Nayuki |
| 17:30:10 | funman | the AMSv2 SD controller has a 'Card Clock LP' bit for each card, I suppose LP is Low-Power |
| 17:32:54 | bertrik | Just guessing, but maybe this bit causes the clock towards the SD card to stop when there is no active communication |
| 17:33:12 | funman | that's my thought too, this bit is only set for newer fuzev2 |
| 17:33:38 | CIA-6 | New commit by kugel (r27469): Prettier genlang-features output. Use the same style for max_language_size.h. |
| 17:35:25 | CIA-6 | r27469 build result: All green |
| 17:40:30 | funman | new fuzev2 also seems to have different button mapping |
| 17:41:32 | bertrik | noooooooooooooooo! |
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| 17:42:49 | kugel | funman: fuzev3? |
| 17:43:11 | funman | saratoga proposed fuzev2.5 |
| 17:43:21 | kugel | too long |
| 17:43:55 | pixelma | v2+ |
| 17:46:11 | pamaury | what is the firmware rev ? |
| 17:46:55 | funman | 2.3.31 or newer |
| 17:47:45 | pixelma | do they use different USB PID/VID so the Rockbox Utility could tell them apart? |
| 17:48:08 | funman | I don't know, but why would that be needed? |
| 17:48:55 | funman | Sandisk use the same firmware for all the fuzev2, we can do the same |
| 17:49:25 | * | bertrik agrees with funman |
| 17:49:26 | pixelma | maybe jsut for the info then |
| 17:49:31 | pixelma | *just |
| 17:50:05 | pixelma | sorry, I thought for a second that it'll need a different install procedure or a different build |
| 17:50:34 | funman | USB ids seem to be the same |
| 17:53:09 | bertrik | funman, do you know how you can detect whether a fuze v2 is the old or the new one? |
| 17:53:52 | funman | yes, if you need to use mkamsboot from svn it's the new one |
| 17:54:22 | funman | simpler: if you can't downgrade OF below 2.3.31. Also all the new Fuzev2 seem to have the same serial number |
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| 18:20:23 | pixelma | are seven lines added to the comment ok for a merely 3 line change in the code? It adds some info that could have been there before even without the change though |
| 18:20:59 | funman | depends what the comment says |
| 18:21:22 | funman | if it's useful info which can't be shortened then it can fill a full page, no problem |
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| 18:26:27 | pixelma | that's the diff: http://pastebin.com/axEX0fir |
| 18:27:33 | funman | pixelma: go for it |
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| 18:29:27 | pixelma | ok, thanks for your opinion :) |
| 18:43:07 | funman | bertrik: ah FlynDice already set the LP bits in r25936 |
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| 18:49:36 | CIA-6 | New commit by pixelma (r27470): Manual: add another possible parameter to screenshot names: 'seriesimg' to be able to use screenshots for manuals of the same series (e.g. all Clips) ... |
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| 18:58:00 | CIA-6 | New commit by pixelma (r27471): Manual: add the new \seriesimg option to the 3 different Clip's platform files and rename all _screenshots_ which have 'sansaclip' in their name so ... |
| 18:58:26 | pixelma | argh |
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| 19:01:52 | ELM | Hello I have a sansa e260R that I already have rockbox on, I am trying to upgrade it. Do I need to do all the steps I did before, or can I just do step 9 onwards from http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaE200RInstallationFromWindows (unzip the new rockbox build)? |
| 19:03:40 | CIA-6 | New commit by pixelma (r27472): Oops, r27471 only contained the delete part of the 'svn rename' - commit the second part and actually add the screenshots (again :\ ) |
| 19:05:20 | funman | ELM: check the manual, it should be explained in a simpler way |
| 19:05:31 | CIA-6 | r27472 build result: All green |
| 19:11:02 | CIA-6 | New commit by pixelma (r27473): Set \specimg to sansaclipplus again for the Clip+ so that it uses the correct player image (screenshots will still be correct due to \seriesimg - ... |
| 19:12:36 | CIA-6 | r27473 build result: All green |
| 19:16:11 | funman | FlynDice: I'll have some questions for you about AMSv2 SD (the cards are used a bit differently in some newer Fuzev2) |
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| 19:17:20 | pixelma | that should have been 11480, damnit |
| 19:18:03 | pixelma | and one of the "r"s is wrong too :\ |
| 19:19:06 | pixelma | and no means (server side) to edit commit messages yet, afaik |
| 19:19:25 | funman | just require a swede to change an option no? |
| 19:20:28 | funman | http://subversion.apache.org/faq.html#change-log-msg explains how to enable the needed pre-revprop-change hook |
| 19:23:00 | funman | pixelma: which button description is wrong ? (FS #11480) |
| 19:23:37 | pixelma | everything that differs from the "usual" Clip's button mapping |
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| 19:24:14 | pixelma | e.g. what mc2739 mentioned - Home+Select twice in the WPS key controls button table |
| 19:24:17 | funman | i mean in which section of the manual, 3.1.1 The player's controls looks ok |
| 19:24:49 | pixelma | at least I *assume* the the same thing is not mapped twice |
| 19:25:08 | pixelma | err... the same mapping is used for two different things |
| 19:25:29 | * | pixelma should take a break or have another coffee or so :/ |
| 19:25:46 | funman | or both: a break with a coffee ;) |
| 19:27:18 | pixelma | indeed |
| 19:28:13 | funman | Home + Select is both: return to wps, and softlock |
| 19:28:28 | pixelma | return to WPS doesn't matter |
| 19:29:19 | pixelma | in the WPS button table it says Home+Select would also be Play/Pause |
| 19:30:02 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r27474): manual: Play/Pause button for Clip keymap is 'Play' ... |
| 19:30:34 | pixelma | aha, so there are no differences in the keymaps? |
| 19:30:53 | funman | no, except an additional combination for softhold |
| 19:31:15 | pixelma | ok, sorry for assumptions then :\ |
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| 19:32:28 | pixelma | then the bug report can be closed because the softhold will not appear in the other Clips' manuals because it is excluded for all targets that have the hold switch |
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| 19:34:01 | funman | did that too ;) |
| 19:35:04 | * | FlynDice apologizes for being out of touch for awhile and warns funman against expectations leading to disappointment.... But I will try my best ;) |
| 19:35:42 | funman | FlynDice: hello! :) |
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| 19:37:01 | funman | well i think i should describe my findings and symptoms because i don't have a precise question to ask .. |
| 19:37:25 | FlynDice | sure |
| 19:37:58 | funman | the new fuzev2 only clears/set the bit 1 of MCI_PWREN afaict |
| 19:38:27 | pixelma | funman: a little digging in the SVN history could have pointed the problem that I fixed now earlier. The one I actually meant - r27091 - was changing \specimg back to sansaclip to use the screenshots, it reverted the change in r25344 which was to use the Clip+ player images |
| 19:38:40 | funman | and always sets the bit 16 in send_cmd (which indicates card 1, which is used for µSD on other fuzev2/clip+) |
| 19:39:18 | funman | i'm not sure what this means for µSD but for now i'm trying to get internal storage working (for the bootloader) |
| 19:40:09 | funman | ah, i have a precise question: any reason why you enable the LP bits of CLKENA only after card init? the new fuzev2 OF seems to do that at init, at the same time than enabling the cards |
| 19:42:31 | funman | for now all I can get is response timeout, so i have some work to do in send_cmd() / init_controller() |
| 19:44:14 | FlynDice | I think when I tried enabling them before init it didn't work, the cards wouldn't init properly iirc. I'm not smart enough to figure out exactly what the OF did but I did see that it used these bits in several functions so tried them out. |
| 19:44:42 | funman | hmm ok, do you remember the symptom if you set them too early? perhaps that could give me a hint |
| 19:45:03 | FlynDice | There was also the mention of a low power mode in one of the "briefs" I found and I figured that this was some type of low power bit |
| 19:45:29 | FlynDice | I don't remember what happened, just failure.... |
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| 19:58:17 | FlynDice | funman: In looking at the clip+ disassembly that I was using there's a function that sets the LP bits using the card pattern derived from MCI_HCON which would be both cards not just the uSD if that helps at all? |
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| 20:00:24 | kugel | I wonder if we can have another go at reducing core voltage now that the microsd timings are supposed to be solved |
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| 20:06:42 | FlynDice | Is widebus still causing problems with amsv1 internal sd writes? |
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| 20:11:18 | funman | FlynDice: yeah i think this 'pattern' is the model variant, there seems to be 'newer Clip+' just like the 'newer fuzev2' |
| 20:11:38 | funman | FlynDice: yep but lowering the speed to 12.5MHz seems to help |
| 20:13:51 | funman | bor_ka posted a description in the forum |
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| 20:14:45 | funman | when this is fixed in svn, we could release new bootloader for AMSv1, and then a new mkamsboot which doesn't dualboot on USB plug but only on button press |
| 20:16:36 | FlynDice | I was thinking HCON was short for hardware configuration for the number of sd's, that hypothesis seemed to be consistent with the code in the linux patch and the OF disassembly, are you saying it seems to be different with the new fuze variant? |
| 20:18:39 | funman | not exactly, because the number of cards extract from HCON is used in CLKENA |
| 20:19:00 | funman | i spent only a day on this so i might have read it wrong of course |
| 20:19:56 | funman | http://pastie.org/1048669 < here is my current diff if it makes sense |
| 20:26:33 | FlynDice | In MCI_COMMAND = .... /*b20:16 */ you seem to set 1<<16 which I don't think sounds right, that's the LP bit not the card, but you may have a reason? |
| 20:27:27 | funman | in MCI_COMMAND that's the card bit, LP bit is in CLKENA |
| 20:27:33 | funman | and the reason is 'OF does it' |
| 20:27:50 | funman | perhaps not for all commands though, I need to double check this |
| 20:29:42 | funman | FlynDice: which clip+ OF are you disassembling? 1.02.09 ? |
| 20:29:49 | FlynDice | I think for MCI_CMD you don't want the <<16 |
| 20:30:11 | FlynDice | It's the first update that was released |
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| 20:30:27 | funman | that's the one |
| 20:31:02 | funman | see sub_4294 |
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| 20:31:26 | funman | for cmd5 (dunno what it is but we don't use it in rockbox) |
| 20:31:53 | funman | depending on what's in byte 213CD the MCI_COMMAND is orr'd with card_num << 16, OR 1 <<16 |
| 20:32:31 | FlynDice | is 4294 thumb or regular arm? |
| 20:32:40 | funman | ARM |
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| 20:32:44 | FlynDice | thx |
| 20:33:35 | funman | it's in the table at 0x8D7C : { int cmd; void *cmd_prepare_func; void *resp_handler_func; // not too sure about this last one } |
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| 20:34:45 | funman | this byte (0x213CD) also seems to affect the OF version check in firmware upgrade, like the fuzev2 |
| 20:35:14 | funman | so far there was a report of Clip+ not upgrading with patched firmware on the forum but the guy didn't confirm if mkamsboot from svn performed the upgrade or not |
| 20:36:13 | FlynDice | hmm I recognize that byte.... I'll be a bit of time looking.... |
| 20:37:42 | funman | it's used in OF upgrade in usb_functio (loaded at 0x302fbada), see the 'V' '0' '1' '.' a few lines below |
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| 20:44:45 | funman | it's funny that the Clip+ OF (depending on the 'model') checks if the to-be-patched-OF is >= 01.02.09, as Sandisk didn't release earlier firmwares |
| 20:45:18 | funman | FlynDice: if you want to spend time on this, I can send you the fuzev2 |
| 20:47:25 | FlynDice | funman: That wouldn't be a good idea, I've got next to no spare time now unfortunately, I just happen to have an hour or so right now to "play".... |
| 20:47:38 | funman | that was the right hour then ;) |
| 20:47:50 | FlynDice | I hope so! |
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| 21:02:01 | funman | FlynDice: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=25184.msg169221#msg169221 |
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| 21:09:00 | FlynDice | funman: thx I believe 0x213CD holds the info for which drive is being addressed, and I think 0 is used for the internal and 2 is used for the uSD, I'm still working on tracking down the 2 reference though. |
| 21:09:45 | funman | hmm could be that, in fuzev2 this byte is set to the value of GPIOB_PIN5 |
| 21:10:08 | funman | i've seen it set only at initialization though |
| 21:12:15 | FlynDice | adressed was not a good choice of words there, manipulated is a better one... |
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| 21:29:36 | FlynDice | funman: Time's up for me now but I will try to look at this over the next few days when I can squeeze it in. |
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| 21:50:18 | funman | kugel: you want to work on the new fuzev2? |
| 21:50:40 | kugel | not really. not until gsoc is over anyway |
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| 22:03:43 | funman | bertrik: are you interested? |
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| 22:18:19 | bertrik | funman, yes, but I think you're much better at it than I am, especially the SD card stuff |
| 22:19:32 | bertrik | the new fuze v2 isn't too different from the old fuze v2 I hope |
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