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#rockbox log for 2010-07-23

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00:09:44CIA-6New commit by pixelma (r27525): Fix Rockboy wrongly included in the Ondio manuals - the linebreak after the opening { made TeX ignore the first following option, a comment also ...
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00:19:05pixelmabluebrother: could it be that the switch in font encoding (after the islandic name problem) made the unicode font package unnecessary?
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00:26:24pixelmaor icelandic
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01:17:28marazso, running at 24/48MHz now. absolutely everything rockbox writes onto the disk gets corrupted
01:17:52maraznot a lot, but enough to corrupt filenames and make things blow up.
01:18:42marazhmm, interestingly, the files itself are okay, but the filenames aren't.
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02:42:09S_a_i_n_tsomeone *wanted* to ude rouckbox_default!?! o_0
02:42:18*S_a_i_n_t is.....surprised.
02:42:30S_a_i_n_t*use, rather.
02:42:56S_a_i_n_tand - other typos
02:44:27S_a_i_n_tmaraz: Did you see my post regarding the Nano1g and the oven?
02:44:46S_a_i_n_tI tried to replicate, I really did...I just, can't do it though.
02:44:58marazi did, yes
02:45:11marazi found it kind of strange.
02:45:16marazwhen was your nano manufactured?
02:45:55S_a_i_n_tPass, I have had it for about 5 years.
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02:46:36S_a_i_n_tThat particular one was ready to give up its life in the name of science if it needed to.
02:46:44S_a_i_n_tIt died a brave death.
02:46:45marazi bought mine right after the launch
02:47:10marazi underclocked to 24/48MHz, and while it did delay the problem, it does still occur
02:47:22marazbut what i learnt today while cycling around totally blew my mind
02:47:27S_a_i_n_tI think your flash chip might be on its way out...which there's basically nothing you can do about it.
02:47:38marazif you hold the nano like steve tells you to hold the iphone 4, ...
02:47:42marazit.. just.. magically.. works.
02:47:54marazyeah, i fear it may be that, too.
02:48:05marazi wonder if there's anything that could be done about it
02:48:25S_a_i_n_tSo heat, or maybe just pure coincidence, causes the issue to worsen.
02:48:43S_a_i_n_tAnd no, short of replacing the flash
02:49:05S_a_i_n_tI replaced the NAND in a Nano2G once, and, I would not advise it.
02:53:21S_a_i_n_tI'm not dissappointed I melted a Nano trying to replicate this, but for me the real kicker was that you have dropped the max clock speed to a setting you confirmed as working before the change in the soure you associated with corrupting your data/causing the issue...and, it still has the issue with the lower clock.
02:53:37S_a_i_n_tI'm sorry, but it seems to point to your hardware being on its way out.
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04:30:12shadoxxWho's in change or the YH-820 port?
04:32:15shadoxxin charge of*...stupid keyboard
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04:37:59goffaTorne: does disk.c and gigabeats.h have any affect on beastpatcher?
04:38:08goffaactually anyone can answer that if they know :)
04:38:24goffafinally got back to where i can play with my 240gb drive again
04:39:06goffabut it seems that its only seeing 137gb of the drive in cfdisk
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04:44:52marazS_a_i_n_t: what really baffles me is that read/write from windows works perfectly.
04:45:13marazif it was indeed the NAND that was at fault, it would affect use in disk mode, too.
04:45:40marazinstead it is rockbox that causes corruption
04:46:30marazthe clock speed change was definitely not the only change between r16xxx and current ;)
04:46:44marazor whatever the 75MHz revision was, i forget
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04:47:47marazfunny filenames...
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05:11:19JdGordon1^ broken filesystem
05:16:31marazin disk mode, clean install of rockbox on formatted filesystem which checks out using chkdsk -> eject, disconnect, reboot to OF so it creates its folders etc. -> reboot to disk mode and connect to computer, RESULT: no corruption.
05:17:36marazeject, disconnect, reboot to rockbox, save .cfg file so it writes something to the filesystem -> reboot to disk mode and connect to computer: RESULT: all files that were written have very funky filenames.
05:18:15marazthis, coupled with the fact that the flash works just fine in windows, leads me to believe that the NAND is not dying and something else is at fault
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05:30:12marazyeah, there is no question about it, rockbox is at fault here
05:30:43marazas to why it works for others and not for my (first batch?) device, i haven't the slightest glimmer of a clue
05:31:45marazall i can tell is problems began back in 2007 when the new bootloader was rolled in, with the ipodpatcher one everything worked
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06:21:56CIA-6New commit by pixelma (r27526): Also fix Rockboy wrongly included in the Ipod Minis' manual. The option is just called 'ipodmini' because there is no difference between the two Minis ...
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07:16:19pixelmamc2739: do you remember more about - I specifically wonder about the \nopt{radio} and then \nopt some targets again which as far as I can see are the ones without radio and hence already excluded
07:16:44pixelmamaybe I need a coffee first but I can't make sense of that currently
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07:25:19pixelmait also
07:27:13pixelmathe "FM Radio" option is also no recording source setting on hwcodec radio targets, they record directly from the radio screen
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07:32:31pixelmathat was wrong before though
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08:14:52Buschelmaraz: a pitty the underclocking did not solve your problem. as you report write problems -> did you check r23740? maybe mulitsector writes are the problem?
08:15:01Buschelmaraz: just wild guesses...
08:20:22CIA-6New commit by bieber (r27527): Theme Editor: Filled out the targets table in buildtargetdb.php and generated a new targetdb with it
08:21:55CIA-6r27527 build result: All green
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08:27:07Buschelif coldfire guys search for an easy-to-optimize codec, he points towards atrac3. especially atrac3_iqmf_dewindowing() is shouting for using emac.
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09:31:57CIA-6New commit by bieber (r27528): Theme Editor: Switched back to Lorenzo Bettini's find/replace dialog (with some modifications) as he changed the license to LGPL v2.1
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09:38:27pixelmabieber: just a small heads-up because the theme site has the same problem the 11x2 for the Archos Player are not pixels, it has a charcell display not a bitmap one, so that means there are 2 lines with space for 11 characters each
09:38:52bieberOhh, okay
09:39:11bieberI'll have to add a special case for that, I guess. Is that the only target that works that way?
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09:42:44pixelmaand is the "remote" only used for deciding on display and RWP vs. WPS? I'm asking because the Iaudio M3 has a remote but since there is no display on the main target, the remote display is treated as main display and you have WPSs, but there is still a main target hold and a remote hold (in case the inclusion of possible tags is based on it too)
09:44:04pixelmamaybe this thing will solve itself once we figure the tag description etc. out?
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10:47:33CIA-6New commit by nls (r27529): libmad: small tweak to coldfire inline asm, gives a slight speedup and now builds fine with gcc 4.4.4
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10:52:25Tornegoffa: whose USB mode are you using to access the beast disk?
10:52:41Tornegoffa: you will need to have already installed the rockbox bootloader and be using our USB mode to see the whole drive
10:52:56Tornegoffa: and you'll need a bootloader that was compiled since I added HAVE_LBA48 to all disk targets
10:53:37Tornegoffa: i recommend leaving both partitions as they are formatted by the OF and only adding a third partition in the remaining space, which is less convenient but less likely to make it crap itself and reformat, maybe.
10:56:20CIA-6New commit by nls (r27530): pdbox: disable strict aliasing optimizations since pdbox breaks the strict aliasing rules which causes warnings.
10:57:51CIA-6r27530 build result: All green
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11:58:58gevaertsDoes anyone believe that "Sock Box" is a real name?
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12:04:48funmangevaerts: why not? perhaps you could ask this person though
12:05:54funman(it sounds strange to me too, but you never know)
12:06:35gevaertsMy doubts are strong enough to hide all themes by this person
12:09:06funmanis anonymous theme contribution forbidden?
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12:10:17funmanin an hypothetical case of copyright infringement, it's dead easy to delete themes, compared to remove all wiki/code contributions from an author
12:11:34gevaertswe ask for real names, yes
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12:12:12funmanwhat's the point, isn't it for potential copyright abuse?
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12:13:07gevaertsI'm sure the discussion about this is in the logs somewhere
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12:29:04mrsean2kI've just built the latest SVN code (r27530-100723) and applies the latest voice file from the download page, but the two seem to be out of synch. How do I rebuild to bring the voice file in line?
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12:35:46mrsean2kTo quantify that a bit, if you enable voice menus and then navigate to "Theme Setting" it seems to be voiced as "Central European". Other examples further up and deeper in, as it were.
12:37:24funmanmrsean2k: you should be able to generate voice files with rockbox utility
12:42:28mrsean2kAh, ok, just using the vanilla downloadable utility outside the build process?
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12:46:06funmanthe voice must be in sync with the code so i think you should build rbutil from svn too, but i'm not very familiar with the process
12:50:54mrsean2kfunman: that makes two of us then. Should probably have mentioned, this is testing in the simulator rather than on target. I'll try pointing rbutil at my simdisk directory as a mountpoint for the player and see what happens, ta.
12:51:24funmanperhaps a developer will be able to answer after the lunch break
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12:56:42mrsean2kfunman: that did the trick. I cranked up the vanilla rbutil, pointed it at my simdisk directory as the location of the player, and it happily built the voicefile bringing it back into line (as far as I've tested). Thanks for the pointer. Now speaking of lunch...
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13:31:26pixelmamc2739: did you see my question earlier?
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13:49:28dfktis there a fast, easy way to clear all applied patches from svn, without deleting and re-downloading all, or manually reverting all single patches?
13:49:46S_a_i_n_tone sec.
13:50:28S_a_i_n_t"svn revert -R ."
13:50:33S_a_i_n_twith the quotes
13:50:41S_a_i_n_tdo that in your source directory
13:50:54dfktvery nice, thanks a lot, S_a_i_n_t
13:51:01S_a_i_n_tNo problems.
13:51:14S_a_i_n_tI just set it as an alias myself.
13:51:28S_a_i_n_twhat development environment do you use?
13:51:50dfktxubuntu in vmware
13:52:44S_a_i_n_tAh, I was going to offer a rather large list of aliasses I keep in my .bashrc file, but few people use CygWin.
13:53:23dfkti just keep all relevant commands in a text file, and copy/paste to the cli :)
13:53:31dfktnot very elegant, but works
13:54:37S_a_i_n_tI'm not sure how to set an alias in your environment, but, it sounds like it would be your friend ;)
13:54:43S_a_i_n_tSure beats c/p
13:54:45S_a_i_n_twell, IMO
13:55:50mc2739pixelma: yes, and I do not remember the how I came up with that.
13:55:56dfkti just reverted all - works like a charm, but without quotes on ubuntu
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13:56:47S_a_i_n_terrr...sorry about that dfkt, I completely missed the "out" from "without"
13:56:52*S_a_i_n_t feels embarrased.
13:57:04dfktheh, no worries :)
13:57:11S_a_i_n_tGlad you worked it out though XD
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14:12:07pixelmamc2739: ok, just thought I'd ask in case there was a specific reason to do it this way. Other than that I'd like to rewrite it to (a) use as few actual target options as possible (the reason why it caught my interest) and (b) be correct about the hwcodec targets :)
14:12:18pixelmawill look into it later
14:13:24pixelmaS_a_i_n_t: you don't need the quotes in cygwin either
14:13:51pixelmaoh... without... sorry ;)
14:14:10S_a_i_n_tpixelma: Yes, I know...if you contimue reading I fully typo'd "without", neglecting the "out" ;)
14:14:20S_a_i_n_tAH, you saw.
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14:23:26S_a_i_n_tmrsean2k: Did you say you "built" the latest revision? As in, you have a build environment set up? Just mkdir a directory called "voicefile" (or, whatever you want really), cd to that directory, do "../tools/configure" and select your target type, choose A for (A)dvanced and press ENTER, now choose V for (V)oice and press ENTER, press ENTER again to confirm, select your language (English is default), select your TTS engine...done. Now you will have a ma
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14:37:11mrsean2kSaint: thanks, I've just worked out that the rbutil method seems to have corrected the mismatch I had on the build, but doesn't add new strings (or at least my attempts haven't worked). Off to follow your advice...
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14:39:20S_a_i_n_tmrsean2k: Let me know if you get stuck, or if my semo wasn't clear enough.
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14:48:17mrsean2ksaint: Ta! Dependency on texinfo -> makeinfo -> eabi toolchain, so just installing / compiling that now. Looks like a sandwiches worth of time to me, so my delayed lunch kicks in now.
14:51:42Tornei'm pretty sure you should be able to build the toolchain without makeinfo
14:53:00Tornethe internet suggests just symlinking it to /bin/true will work :)
14:53:16Tornegcc is being dumb and regenerating info files it already has compiled
14:53:36Torneyou should only need texinfo installed if you actually modify one of the .texi files in gcc
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15:01:12*S_a_i_n_t was fairly confident that mrsean2k said he had built the latest revision for his player, shouldn't he *already* have the toolchain installed? o_0
15:01:49S_a_i_n_tIsn't everything that can be built using eabi doing so now?
15:02:14S_a_i_n_tor, is the mini1/2g still using arm-elf?
15:02:52Torneyes, everything is built with eabi now
15:03:09Torneyou only need the oabi toolchain if you explicitly choose to use it
15:04:17S_a_i_n_tit defaults to eabi, so, you only *don't* use eabi if you explicitly choose *not* to use it ;)
15:13:11mrsean2ksaint et al: yes I've been building away for some time. I suspect I created my voicefile directory in the wrong relative place on the filesystem, so I may have confused matters. I'll just make sure my standard build still works then check what I've fluffed
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15:28:48mrsean2kSaint: zapped my old directory, created a new one at the same level as my standard builed, config'ed and make'd. No sign of a .voice file tho. Where should I look?
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15:32:05goffaTorne: using linux to mount the disk... when i tried with the standard compile of the bootloader and plugged it in it seemed like fdisk only 137.4gb total for the drive
15:32:16Tornewhere did you ge tthe bootloader from, though?
15:32:22Tornedid you build it yourself from svn?
15:32:24goffai tried adding a third, but it said no space available, but i think that's because it only saw 137 gb
15:32:41Torneunless you built it yourself it won' thave LBA48 support
15:32:44goffayeah.. i built it myself through svn
15:32:52Tornewell, that should work..
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15:33:25goffathe first time i didn't add lba48 support in gigabeats.h
15:33:36Torneit should already be there
15:33:40TorneI already added lba48 support to every target
15:33:41goffaor that 0x77 line to disk.c
15:33:49Torneif it's not already there you have an ancient version
15:34:05Torne..i don't know what you mean by 0x77 line
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15:34:25goffaback in june someone suggested i try this patch ...
15:35:09Torneyes, that's what you'll need to create a partition rockbox can see but the OF doesn't
15:35:16Tornebut that's 0xff, not 0x77
15:35:22Tornewhich is why i was confused :)
15:35:26goffayou are right.. i can't type :)
15:35:42goffaor read/remember... lol
15:36:02gevaertsgoffa: do you have dmesg output from the device detection?
15:36:16Torneso you are definately running a bootloader you compiled yourself from svn?
15:36:20Tornenot the one that beastpatcher comes with?
15:36:42goffagevaerts: at what point?
15:37:01giovanni__Hi all
15:37:21goffaTorne: let me backtrack... initially i patched it with the one that beastpatcher came with .. that's when it only saw the 137.4
15:37:23gevaertsgoffa: the sd? bits, mainly starting from "XXXXX 512-byte logical blocks"
15:37:35TorneThe bootloader included in beastpatcher won't have lba48 support, no
15:37:45Tornenew bootloaders haven't been released for most targets since I made that change
15:37:47*gevaerts waits for the backtracking to be complete :)
15:37:56Torneyou need to have built your own and just use beastpatcher to install it.
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15:38:10giovanni__Since the Onda's players has ot an external speaker, is it possible to create an wps tag to wiew if the speaker is enabled or not?
15:38:10goffawhen i added 0xff and tried to patch, i get this: [INFO] Bootloader installed successfully.
15:38:12goffaPTP: Closing session
15:38:14goffaERROR: Could not close session!
15:38:16goffaPress ENTER to exit beastpatcher:
15:38:40goffai unplug... but the beast doesn't like it, and wipes the drive (error 3)
15:39:59goffaand fyi gevaerts here's the output sd 14:0:0:0: [sdd] 268435455 512-byte logical blocks: (137 GB/127 GiB)
15:40:10gevaertsgoffa: once you have a working bootloader, you should be able to replace it by directly copying to the firmware partition.
15:40:31goffaoh.. ok
15:40:35gevaertsMaybe the new one isn't accepted due to lack of dual boot or presence of dual boot?
15:40:54gevaertsgiovanni__: that should be possible
15:41:02goffacould be... i do notice the file size is slightly larger.. i didn't know if that was an issue
15:41:31goffai'll have to play with this some more tonight after work
15:41:55goffathis info does help for sure...
15:42:12giovanni__gevaerts: it would be great, I will try to code it myself but I'm not so good, anyway there's already a patch for onda's made by me that I think should be committed
15:42:33giovanni__that patch is for the yes & no screen
15:42:57goffaso ... theoretically ... i could take a non patched bootloader from beastpatcher (just so it will boot)
15:43:04goffathen take the one i built and copy to that partition
15:43:14gevaertsgiovanni__: ah, right. That should work for all touchscreen targets I guess?
15:43:15goffathen go and fdisk the drive?
15:43:38goffato add that next partition of course
15:43:43giovanni__not really
15:44:06giovanni__for example , the cowon D2 has already another way to say yes
15:44:16gevaertsoh, I see
15:44:22giovanni__the ondavx777 has only one phisical button
15:45:22gevaertshm, wouldn't it be better to actually fix the real problem and have the yesno screen support absolute mode?
15:45:38giovanni__so, it is the only one that can be used, or, the whole yes & no should be rewritten for touch screen targets, like the keyboard already is
15:46:07giovanni__but I am not able to fix that
15:46:17giovanni__not a good coder :)
15:46:39gevaertsI'm not sure if I'm in favour of these workarounds in svn
15:46:42S_a_i_n_tmrsean2k: Lets say you created a directory inside your source directory called "myvoicefile", after you've done "../tools/configure" etc. etc. and generated the makefile for the voicefile, then done "make voice" to build the voicefile, the voicefile you have just built will be in "<path_to_source-code_dir>/myvoicefile". It will be called "<My_selected_language>.voice" (english.voice for example)
15:47:20giovanni__I can understand your point of view, but as now, it is the only way to have it usable
15:47:52gevaertsHow about disabling absolute mode at the start of the yesno handling and restoring it afterwards?
15:48:49giovanni__yes, others plugin uses yhis method, but itìs still a work around, not a good solution
15:49:16gevaertsI agree, but I think it's a cleaner workaround than adding different buttons for each target
15:49:55giovanni__in my opinion, it sould work as the virtual keyboard, with support for absolute mode, and a couple of virtual button, yes and no
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15:51:08mrsean2kSaint: Aha, in your original message, "make voice" was truncated to "ma.." so I'd missed the "voice" bit off. All is clear now, and the file is there, thanks.
15:52:59S_a_i_n_tmrsean2k: Hppy to help.
15:53:07S_a_i_n_t*happy, even ;)
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15:54:06S_a_i_n_tmrsean2k: A little off-topic, but you may have to adjust the flood setting in your IRC client to stop it from truncating messages.
15:54:27S_a_i_n_tThe paragraph was long, but not insanely long...
15:55:40mrsean2kSaint: I've lazily jumped into web client instead of a standalone IRC client. I'll switch.
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16:10:51seaniOops, not "mrsean2k" in here, but "seani". Ah well. So, I've gone round in circles a bit on voice generation. I can now create a file but is seems to be back out of step.
16:11:16kugelbieber: how do I use the theme editor? :)
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16:11:31S_a_i_n_tseani: Were you the one working on a customizable main menu?
16:11:40kugelw.r.t. to projects I mean, for .wps files only it seems pretty straightforward
16:12:40seaniI've added a new identifier / entry to the english.lang file and employed it in the code as a setting for track skip. Then make clean, make, make install in the main build directory
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16:14:06seaniThen whip over to the voicebuild directory and do a make voice, and copy the resultant voice file into the lang directory in simdisk back on my main build. But a heap of entries are now voiced incorrectly.
16:15:25seaniS_a_i_n_t: I was thinking about it for a bit, but at the minute abandoned in favour of some test changes for blind / partially sighted users.
16:15:49S_a_i_n_tHmmm...pass. As long as the voice and the build are built with the same revision/source then it should "just work"
16:16:10S_a_i_n_tseani: Aha, I thought I remembered the nick.
16:16:27S_a_i_n_tIf it helps, customizable menus are no longer a "NoDo" :P
16:16:50S_a_i_n_t(provided it is done in a sane manner of course)
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16:22:16kugelbieber: nevermind
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16:51:44kugelbieber: the albumart available button should be available in the fm status tab too IMO
16:54:15z35greetings, I am using a sansa clip v2 and I cannot get it to install. The first two times, I used the gui (which is nice), then I did it a couple times manually, each time, it says that it completes the flash upgrade, but rockbox doesn't boot, it boots the OF
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17:10:17kugelz35: can you flash your clip with a OF that has the t suffix?
17:11:45kugelz35: nevermind, wait for funman/bertrik. it's possible that you got a newer version where the current mkamsboot doesn't work with
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17:14:00z35kugel, alright
17:15:12kugelz35: which OF version have you got?
17:16:01saratogayou probably need to wait for everything to be updated to work with the newer clips
17:16:11saratogaits mostly working now, so probably won't take too long
17:16:53z35excellent, you wouldn't happen to know where i can get an older fimware version?
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17:21:23z35nvm, i found one
17:21:24Tornethe new clips can't be downgraded to the older versions, they have different hardware
17:21:52z35so i cannot go from 2.1.35 -> 2.1.32 ?
17:22:11z35or the 2.* series doesn't work w/ mkams
17:22:18Tornei forget which range of versions is okay
17:22:26Tornebut you can't do anything to your clip that will make it work with the current rockbox
17:22:38Torneyou'll have to wait until people are done fixing rockbox to work on te new clips
17:22:49Tornewhich, as saratoga said, is mostly working now, so hopefully soon
17:22:51z35alright, thank you
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17:28:10kugelz35: I actually don't think that's your problem
17:28:44kugelso far the "newer clip" has only occured to the clip+, and your OF version looks OK to me
17:29:26kugelit's is several month and should be a problem
17:30:32kugelthe playlist viewer is useless
17:30:41kugelI mean the skin tag
17:31:21pokesbig thanks to rockbox for fixing it for the new clip+
17:31:56S_a_i_n_tkugel: why?
17:32:02S_a_i_n_twhat's useless about it?
17:32:21kugeltoo limited
17:32:38S_a_i_n_tit's not *that* limited.
17:32:42S_a_i_n_tbetter than nothing.
17:33:04z35the mkamsboot works, says the correct firmware, etc, i even tried the prior version, 2.1.32, both flash okay, it just doesn't seem to load rockbox...
17:33:05kugelit appears it doesn't allow me to make sublines in the fms (e.g. 1s of "Next ....", then 1s of the station name, then 1s of the station freq)
17:33:18S_a_i_n_twhat else would you like it to do that it doesn't do currently?
17:33:24kugelS_a_i_n_t: there's better alternatives in the wps, but not in the fms
17:33:28S_a_i_n_tAnd, it doesn't allow sublines at all IIRC
17:34:01S_a_i_n_tbtw, the fms is horribly broken...that may be what you are seeing.
17:34:18S_a_i_n_tperhaps it does do sublines, I'm not sure...but updating is FUCKED in the fms
17:34:46S_a_i_n_tmost tags will not update without a full screen redraw at the moment.
17:35:02S_a_i_n_tyou have to exit the fms and re-enter it to get the tags to update :/
17:35:34kugelI noticed that
17:35:59S_a_i_n_tthat may be why sublines don't work. (if you can actually use sublines)
17:36:11pokeswould the fixes for the new hardware clip+ be on is it that up-to-date+
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17:37:32pokesah wait, nevermind, i'd have to cross-compile a bootloader still
17:38:17kugelS_a_i_n_t: I can't remember that sublines ever worked with it
17:39:05kugelI think %Tn and friends could simply take an optional parameter for the preset number
17:39:20S_a_i_n_tkugel: I'm not sure either...I don't *think* it did, but I do know that if it did work, you wouldn't actually be able to get it to work at present as the fms is horribly, horribly broken.
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17:40:07S_a_i_n_tkugel: Does your target support RDS?
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17:44:43S_a_i_n_tkugel: Are you able to check if " %s%al%?tx<Yes%, I have RDS|No%, I do not have RDS> " works on your device please?
17:44:54S_a_i_n_tI am trying to confirm a bug with that tag.
17:45:41S_a_i_n_ts/"that tag/" %tx "/
17:45:57AlexPS_a_i_n_t: Only the ipod video radio remote has RDS implemented atm
17:46:11AlexPThe beast has RDS, but not implemented
17:46:37n1sdoes anyone know if the patch for the coldfire gcc on cygwin is needed for newer gcc versions?
17:46:48S_a_i_n_tAlexP: Sure, but apparently the conditional crashes the fms on device, I'm trying to confirm this.
17:46:58S_a_i_n_tmc2739 saw it on device
17:47:35n1shmm, tremor doesn't fit iram with new gcc + my prefered tuning
17:47:43*n1s gets the shoehorn out
17:47:57AlexPS_a_i_n_t: I'm just pointing out that unless kugel has an ipod radio remote thing, then he doesn't have a rds supporting target
17:48:19kugellet's see if I have a fix for the update issue
17:48:43S_a_i_n_tthe line I had was "Is there RDS? if yes, display it. If no, display Preset Name", mc2739 said that not even the false condition of this worked, as his device does not support RDS
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17:49:24S_a_i_n_the commented out the lines that used %?tx, and the .fms worked
17:49:26AlexPI know, you are missing my point
17:49:29AlexPBut don't worry
17:50:31S_a_i_n_tI realise your point, but I guess I worded it incorrectly....I basically need *anyone* with an FM target to test that line on device for me.
17:50:38sudomanhi, i just re-formatted my ipod 5.5g using the instructions at and now i have 3 partitions, the third being called /dev/sda and is -80 GB [sic].
17:51:01sudomanand it's not mounting. i get the error: Error mounting: mount: /dev/sda2: can't read superblock
17:51:08S_a_i_n_tIt works correctly in the SIM, but, not on device apparently
17:51:22sudomanit boots up fine, but the ipod says it has 0 KB free
17:52:01Tornesudoman: do you have absolutely no ability to restore with itunes?
17:52:15Tornebecause it's *way* easier, and it's only worth doing a manual restore if there's no possibility of doing it that way
17:52:28sudomani'm on a linux computer. i have access to windows computers, but i don't have admin access.
17:52:51S_a_i_n_tyou don;t need admin access to restore an iPod using iTunes IIUC
17:52:59TorneS_a_i_n_t: you do to install itunes, though
17:53:04Tornebecause itunes installs some services
17:53:13Torneso unless the machine alrady has it, you rae out of luck
17:53:19S_a_i_n_tI was assuming it was already installed :/
17:53:34sudomanhm no, i don't think so... but ther is a guy next to me...
17:54:15sudomanok, he's gonna install itunes for me. ; )
17:54:30TorneI'm juhst saying, if you followed the instructions and it didn't work, then it's almost certainly less effort to ask that guy than to work out what went wrong ;)
17:54:31sudomanbut it would be cool to get the instructions working for linux
17:54:36TorneThey have worked for people in the past
17:54:50Torneso, either you made a mistake or your linux is different or your ipod is magic :)
17:55:11S_a_i_n_tMagic iPod...Wooo!
17:55:13Torneit's just way easier to suggest people use itunes rather than work out all possible variations of what could possibly go wrong
17:55:16Tornesorry :)
17:55:37Tornei have successfully restored a 5.5g using those instructoins, at least
17:55:51sudomanok. one thing is that i followed the instructions for mformat from the OS X instructions because i was getting an error using the linux instructions and there was a link saying to see the OSX instructions for details on how to do it.
17:56:34S_a_i_n_tIt's completely understandable...iTunes == Click 1 button, done. Linux == Piss around, piss around some more...and some more, and *maybe* it worked if you did it absolutely correctly.
17:57:45TorneS_a_i_n_t: well if there was a problem with doing it with itunes we'd care more about alternatives, i guess
17:58:01Tornebut itunes happily handles upgraded disks (including ones that need LBA48) and other weird variations without blinking
17:58:06Tornesoo, yeah, it' sjust easier ;)
17:58:16Torneand it's never wrong about what model an ipod is, etiehr ;)
17:58:16n1shmm, is asm to optimize code size while keeping speed a good idea?
17:58:24S_a_i_n_tIndeed, it's just *so* easy to restore using iTunes...its the only thing the program is useful for ;)
17:59:28kugelthe radio screen needs a serious rewrite
17:59:46S_a_i_n_tkugel: Amen, but, its out of my league
18:01:17S_a_i_n_tkugel: fwiw, the updating issue only used to affect the progressbar (for tuning), that worked fine now (it was "fixed") and the updating for everything else broke.
18:01:33kugelthe quick & dirty fix works, the more intelligent one doesn't :(
18:01:55n1swoha, the icode section of framing.o grew 4k
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18:02:48kugelS_a_i_n_t: for me, mostly album art doesn't update
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18:04:28S_a_i_n_tkugel: %?tm<Scan|Preset> does not update either
18:04:54S_a_i_n_tOr, any conditional that I have tried actually...
18:05:02S_a_i_n_t(in the .fms)
18:05:14S_a_i_n_tAll need a fullscreen redraw to update :/
18:05:41kugelthat's what I'm trying to achieve
18:06:29S_a_i_n_tkugel: If you could please test " %s%al%?tx<Yes%, I have RDS|No%, I do not have RDS> " for me, it would really help to confirm a bug.
18:06:50S_a_i_n_tthe symptoms should be the .fms failing to load.
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18:07:29S_a_i_n_tI'd test it if I could, but I have no FM hardware...and, it works in the SIM but failed on device for mc2739
18:07:35kugelS_a_i_n_t: it can't work, actually
18:07:43kugellooking at the code
18:07:47S_a_i_n_tit *can't*?
18:07:53S_a_i_n_tIt works in the SIM
18:09:17kugelthere's no code to rule out non-rds targets
18:09:24kugelin the related code, it is always "true"?
18:10:00n1salmost all that growt is in one function, which grew a whooping 280%
18:10:06S_a_i_n_tand, if the device had no RDS capability, it would fail.
18:10:15S_a_i_n_tmakes sense to what mc2739 was seeing
18:10:40kugelS_a_i_n_t: I mean the true part isn't ignored on non-RDS targets
18:10:57kugelwhich means it will act as if the rds tags existed
18:11:07kugelthey don't, which can cause random results
18:11:42S_a_i_n_tWell, for mc2739 the .fms just would not load on device until he commented out the "%?tx" lines.
18:11:56kugelwhich doesn't surprise me at all
18:12:06kugelI'm surprised it works in the sim though
18:12:08S_a_i_n_tWhy however, does it work on the SIM?
18:12:20S_a_i_n_tAh, so you don;t know either ;)
18:12:46S_a_i_n_tA *lot* of things surprise me about the SIM :P
18:13:36kugelyour test case doesn't include a rds tag, that may be why
18:14:33kugelfor %?tx<%ty|%Tn> I get a parser error
18:15:10S_a_i_n_t%s%ac%?tx<%ty|%Tn> works in the SIM
18:15:28S_a_i_n_tas does %s%ac%?tx<%tz>
18:15:34kugelif you consder a parser error working yes
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18:16:28S_a_i_n_tthose are the two lines that "crashed" the .fms on device
18:16:43kugelyou said it wouldn't load
18:16:58kugelwhich doesn't equal crash
18:17:13S_a_i_n_thence the quotes, I didn't know what to call it.
18:17:19S_a_i_n_tYes, it didn;t load.
18:17:50kugelwell crash would be a panic or freeze
18:17:54S_a_i_n_tLoads in the sim, but, not on device.
18:18:06kugelit doesn't load in the sim, it gives a parser error
18:18:34S_a_i_n_tI had it working in the sim.
18:18:41kugelwhich sim
18:18:51kugelI'm talking about a non-rds one here
18:19:06kugelnano1g has rds, because the ipod fm remote has it
18:19:10n1sah, it was inlining like mad
18:19:43kugelas AlexP said :)
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18:20:16kugeloh, he only mentioned ipod video, but I assume that remote works on all ipods?
18:20:31S_a_i_n_tIt does.
18:20:40AlexPI initially mentioed video, but I shouldn't have
18:20:40kugelso yea, it loads for them
18:21:23kugelit won't load for non-rds targets, because the %tx tag is not known
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18:21:34kugelerr, %ty/%tz
18:22:34S_a_i_n_twhy does it not display the "false" case then?
18:22:52S_a_i_n_t(for non-RDS targets)
18:24:14CIA-6New commit by kugel (r27531): Make %tx work as intended, so that it ignores the true case for non-RDS targets.
18:24:30kugelS_a_i_n_t: I mentioned the reason
18:25:05S_a_i_n_tAh, sorry. I had missed that.
18:25:13S_a_i_n_tThanks, btw.
18:26:02CIA-6r27531 build result: 245 errors, 0 warnings (kugel committed)
18:27:43kugeloh, that commit is completely broken!
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18:33:21CIA-6New commit by kugel (r27532): The previous commit was broken, not only because of the red. Fix it.
18:34:53CIA-6r27532 build result: All green
18:36:38kugelS_a_i_n_t: do you need to escape "," now?
18:36:50S_a_i_n_tkugel: Yes.
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18:48:45sudoman_ok, so i restored my ipod using itunes, but now when i try to install rockbox, rbutil tells me: error reading partition table - possibly not an ipod
18:48:56skfunnyboyi have some problem installing rockbox on a Fuze V2 8GB ... its work with my Fuze V2 4GB but not with my 8GB :S
18:49:06sudoman_when i look at my ipod in the disk utility, it shows only one 80 gb partition
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18:50:02kugelskfunnyboy: what OF version does the 8GB one have?
18:50:52skfunnyboyi downgraded from 02.03.33
18:51:25kugelskfunnyboy: you need to build mkamsboot from svn, and use the manual installation method
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18:52:23kugelget the latest source code from svn and compile mkamsboot
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18:52:44kugelyou could also wait until the next mkamsboot release
18:52:59skfunnyboyill try to compile it ..
18:53:23S_a_i_n_tskfunnyboy: There is a "hot-to" for setting up a development platform (for various OSes) on the wiki
18:53:37S_a_i_n_t*how-to rather
18:56:15sudoman_also, when RockboxUtility boots-up it detects my ipod correctly, but when i tell it to autodetect the type of ipod, it thinks it's an ipod 6G.
18:56:49sudoman_i know it's 80 GB, it says so on the back
18:57:16pokeswould anyone who has a toolchain all set up be willing to distribute a SVN bootloader for a clip+?
18:58:17S_a_i_n_tpokes: I guess so.
18:58:57pokesthat would be awesome, thank you
18:59:16S_a_i_n_tI'll PM you the link to the download shortly
18:59:42sudoman_ok.. so this is annoying. it seems like someone sent me an old 80GB 6g ipod instead of a 5.5G one...
18:59:46sudoman_; <
19:00:15S_a_i_n_tan *old* 6G?
19:00:25sudoman_yeah instead of the 160 GB
19:00:29S_a_i_n_tisn't that the *most* recent?
19:01:18S_a_i_n_tdo you mean 6G (as in generation), or 6G (as in GB)?
19:01:34sudoman_from the apple wikipedia page: "During the 'Let's Rock' Apple Event on September 9, 2008, the 80 GB and the thicker 160 GB model were discontinued in favor of a thin 120 GB version"
19:01:40sudoman_6th gen
19:02:01sudoman_*ipod classic wikipedia page
19:02:36sudoman_i guess i have to send it back...
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19:09:28pixelmaAlexP: you missed the discovery that the target rename causes a bit of confusion in the manual because options were renamed in some include statements but not in platform files. I started working a bit on it and as usually stumble across more things. Sounds nice, doesn't it? ;)
19:10:06AlexPIndeed it does :)
19:10:09pixelmadiscovered only yesterday
19:12:16skfunnyboyS_a_i_n_t : what i need to do now .. im in debian
19:12:59S_a_i_n_tENEEDMOREINFO ;)
19:13:30S_a_i_n_tWhat is it you are wanting to do?
19:13:55S_a_i_n_tyou have a development platform set up, and have compiled the toolchain for your device?
19:14:13skfunnyboyonly the dev platform
19:14:27S_a_i_n_tyou need to compile the toolchain.
19:14:47S_a_i_n_tdoes the wiki not cover this?
19:15:12skfunnyboydont know
19:15:52S_a_i_n_tSorry, it wasn't really a question. I shall find the links for you.
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19:17:02kugelthere's too much how-tos on the same topic on our wiki
19:17:28S_a_i_n_tkugel: Amen.
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19:32:40bertrikz35, not being able to downgrade the OF is a symptom of a "new" type of AMSv2 player ("COMBO4E")
19:33:53bertrikyou can be sure of this if you flash a test/diagnostic version of the OF and check the HwInfo diagnostic screen. The newer players show "COMBO4E" while earlier ones show "HERMON".
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19:35:43pokesbertrik: i have a "new" clip+ and it wouldn't upgrade to the diagnostic OF that i saw posted in the # earlier, it just didn't take as a firmware upgrade
19:35:46*pokes thickens the plot
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19:36:24z35bertrik, I was able to downgrade from the 2.1.35 to the 2.1.32 firmware...
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19:37:46z35and i didn't quite catch that last part
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19:39:23bertrikz35, you can enable a diagnostic menu in the original firmware by taking the OF image and renaming the last character before the dot (".") into a t
19:40:17pokesthere's no difference between a stock and a diagnostic OF except the name it finds it at?
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19:43:17bertrikMaybe it's also possible to enable it by editing one of the files that the OF puts in the root
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19:50:10z35How do i get to this HwInfo Diag screen? I went to settings, Diagnosis, and went through the menu, and there was not a HwInfo section
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19:53:14bertrikz35, IIRC it's the second screen on my clip and clip+
19:54:24bertrikoh my clipv1 doesn't have this screen
19:54:38z35Batt is the first, then SDRAM Test...
19:57:16bertrikz35, you were able to install the patched OF / rockbox bootloader?
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19:57:47bertrikDo you see some rockbox bootloader text when you boot it with the middle button pressed?
19:58:22z35let me re-load and see, i didn't try pressing anything
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20:11:43z35seems not
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20:12:30bertrikThen I'm not sure if the patched OF / rockbox bootloader was flashed successfully
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20:14:13z35patch succeded, and if i switch between the 2.1.32 and 2.1.35 versions, the version under the system info changes, also, if I do the m30pa.bin and m30pt.bin
20:14:22z35the menus change accrodingly
20:15:10saratogaif theres no text you probably didn't flash it
20:15:57bertrikYakuza666's clip+ just got 17h17min on battery bench
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20:21:57z35any reason why it wouldn't flash it?
20:22:21z35even though it says it is success full
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20:24:08bertrikI don't know. Normally it says "firmware upgrade in progress" for about 20 seconds, then "firmware upgrade OK" (or something similar), then powers down.
20:24:28z35yeah, Firmware upgrade in progress; Upgrade Complete
20:24:33simonrvnthat's normal if that's what you're doing ;p
20:25:16z35then the settings are back to default, and if it was flashed w/ .32, the version changes, if it was t, then the diag menu is avail
20:25:18bertrikIs there an easy way to tell the total playtime of a playlist?
20:25:44bertrikAre you sure you flashed the patched firmware, not the original firmware?
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20:32:04bertrikz35, I'm not completely sure what the problem is, probably you need a newer mkamsboot as well
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20:34:26z35is there a newer version?
20:40:44bertrikyes, in the subversion archive
20:43:30n1sbertrik: no, we don't have a way to tell the total time of a playlist
20:44:10n1sit would either require the database (assuming it stores track playtime) or parsing the metadata of every file
20:46:16kugelIIRC for some formats you even need to ask the codec
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20:48:18Slasheriit should be quite easy to retrieve track lenghts from the db
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20:58:20z35updated to the svn mkamsboot, still no change
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21:23:43bertrikz35, what I find weird is that apparently the player seems to flash the patched firmware, but then there's no sign of it actually being installed
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21:25:25funmanthe OF version number changing prove that upgrade works (if the 'upgrade in progress' message didn't already)
21:26:22funmanAlso (up to 02.01.35 at least), the Clipv2 doesn't seem to have a newer, incompatible, hardware revision
21:27:38funmanz35: perhaps our check to decide to dual boot or not is buggy on your clipv2. Do you want to test something and potentially brick your clipv2 ? (It could or could not be recovered by opening the case)
21:28:16z35i don't mind, I am installing the cross compilers now...
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21:29:56funmanuntested diff:
21:30:01n1shmm, I get "rockbox/apps/plugins/lib/pluginlib_actions.c:64:8: warning: "CONFIG_REMOTE_KEYPAD" is not defined" when test compiling for x5 with gcc 4.4.4, should the PP keep processing an #if ... #elif ... #endif cascade if it finds a match? and if so, why doesn't the other targets complain here (only iriver h100/h300 and mrobe define CONFIG_REMOTE_KEYPAD)
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21:31:13funmann1s: perhaps it's implementation dependant, check the C standard?
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21:32:45n1sfunman: you mean the same version of gcc targeting different archs should have differing behaviour in the PP?
21:33:23funmanwhy not?
21:35:25funman"6.10 Preprocessing directives" is not very explicit about it
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21:36:47funmanthis code is only inside #ifdef HAVE_REMOTE_LCD
21:37:15n1sright, i wonder if it isn't a bug that the iaudios don't define CONFIG_REMOTE_KEYPAD
21:37:33funmanarchos/ondio have remotes too?
21:37:40z35funman, no difference...
21:37:54n1syeah, i think they have one without display
21:37:58funmanz35: did you try to power with usb and/or pressing the left button ?
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21:38:38funmann1s: then why are they listed in #ifdef HAVE_REMOTE_LCD ? :)
21:38:55n1sno idea, the gigabeat remotes don't have displays either
21:39:22funmanit's PLA, so slapping kugel might help
21:39:53n1sI wonder why the actions are set according to main unit keypad for everything except the mrobe too?
21:40:33funmanbecause mrobe100 & mrobe500 don't have the same main pad ?
21:40:48pixelmathe Recordes (maybe the Player) have a non-lcd remote, the Ondios don't
21:40:58pixelmaRecorders too
21:41:20n1sfunman: other units with different main buttons but with the same remote are grouped
21:41:21funman#ifndef CONFIG_REMOTE_KEYPAD #define CONFIG_REMOTE_KEYPAD 0 # endif should work
21:41:35funmanoh well right
21:42:02n1sfunman: yeah, silencing the warning is easy but should the code be fixed too?
21:42:30funmanthe code is good no?
21:42:57z35btw, nothing changes when I do...
21:43:31funmanz35: i think you must run 'make -C dualboot ; make' to be sure the dualboot.S changes are compiled in
21:43:58z35ahh, i just did make clean...
21:44:15n1sit's weird, 1) why isn't the map available for remotes without displays 2) why is the selection done inconsistently for the mrobe remote 3) why don't the other targets with remotes define CONFIG_REMOTE_KEYPAD
21:44:56n1skugel: do you have any idea about this?
21:45:33funman2) check for MROBE100/MROBE500 like you suggested
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21:46:01funmanor always define CONFIG_REMOTE_KEYPAD (to 0 or something) and use the remote define
21:46:06funmani'm looking at 1
21:46:44funmanit was added like that in r13927
21:46:54kugeln1s: No, but I maybe didn't understand the problem
21:46:55funmanperhaps the archos remotes has never been used in PLA ?
21:47:29pixelmaI'm not sure - although it's the same remote and we could support it on both M:Robes, I'm for some reasons not sure it is supported on the M:Robe 100
21:47:41kugelbut I assume all targets with a remote (with or without lcd) should have CONFIG_REMOTE_KEYPAD
21:48:33n1sthat would make sense
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21:49:00z35recompiled and still no changes...
21:49:46funmanh100/h300 remote keyapds are different
21:50:10n1sfunman: yeah, but they are usable with both devices
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21:50:17funmanz35: what's the serial number on the back?
21:50:29funmanon the bottom*
21:51:44n1spixelma: do you know what kinds of iaudio remotes there are?
21:51:57pixelmajust one
21:52:19n1sthe same for all 3?
21:53:15n1snice, I'll just define CONFIG_REMOTE_KEYPAD to X5_REMOTE (which is a remote type already present in config.h btw) then
21:53:49n1sor should it be renamed?
21:54:11pixelmamaybe IAUDIO_REMOTE would be less confusing?
21:54:22n1spixelma: ok
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21:59:20funmanz35: , it should boot OF only if you plug USB or if you lock the hold button
22:01:01pixelman1s: there are remotes with black or grey casing out there, that's the only difference. The grey ones were sold for the M3 and the black for the X5. Fun fact is that the offers I watched for these remotes all stated explicitly they wouldn't work on the M5, I know they do because I tried with amiconns remote. It made me a bit curious if perhaps the OF has some problems with it, maybe because of the same colour depth - not curious enough to install
22:01:01pixelma the OF again or the experimental dual boot loader
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22:01:43pixelmasome colour depth of main and remote display with the M5
22:01:56n1spixelma: ah
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22:02:23skfunnyboy...i typed sudo ./ in my rockbox dev os and the terminal dosent stop to send text like that : it normal ??
22:02:39n1sbtw, just defining CONFIG_REMOTE_KEYPAD doesn't work, because of the logo plugin, sigh
22:02:52sudomanskfunnyboy: yes, it's compiler output
22:03:04skfunnyboyi waited for 30 minutes.. .
22:03:17n1sskfunnyboy: it takes a while to build toolchains
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22:03:27sudomanit can take a while, especially on slower machines. it took my ppc g4 a while
22:03:40saratogabuy a faster computer if you don't like yours being slow
22:04:09sudomanskfunnyboy: if it stops and you get a new command-line prompt and there are no errors above, then it probably worked. ; )
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22:04:45skfunnyboysudoman: ok...but how many time in total ?
22:05:06sudomando you mean how long will it take? i don't know.
22:05:26n1spixelma: so i could just copy the m3 keymap to the remote keymap for the logo plugin?
22:05:27skfunnyboy(and sorry for my french :P)
22:05:44sudomanif you need to pause it for a bit, you can type ctrl-Z and then start it up again by typing fg and enter. though if you close the window, it will stop.
22:06:07skfunnyboyits on a virtual pc so..
22:06:18skfunnyboyill wait,...
22:06:23pixelman1s: yes, mapping is the same for all other things now
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22:07:40pixelmait's a pity that no plugin defines some mappings for the Iaudio remote, not even a "quit" like there is for the H100/H300 remote
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22:11:08z35funman, nothing...
22:11:20z35(had to remove the last line in the patch but..)
22:12:22funmanz35: so which booting combinations did you try ?
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22:12:53z35normal, left pressed, usb, and select
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22:13:10z35all do OF
22:13:37funmantry this then: power normally and as fast as you can, engage the hold switch
22:14:12z35saw rockbox
22:14:22z35and seems to be running
22:14:30z35after leaving hold
22:14:58funmanok, do the buttons work normally? (especially left)
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22:20:11funmanz35: can you try: revert to svn (svn checkout . -R), and modify the delay in dualboot.S at line 200
22:20:42CIA-6New commit by nls (r27533): Define CONFIG_REMOTE_KEYPAD for iaudio x5/m5 and add a keymap for that remote to the logo plugin. Fixes a warning when building with gcc 4.4.4.
22:20:47funmantry to make it #10 or #50 and see if that helps (don't forget to run make -C dualboot/; make)
22:22:07funmann1s: wasn't it possible to use PLA ?
22:22:17z35command doesn't work
22:22:18n1sfunman: i have no ides
22:22:27funmanz35: what's the problem ?
22:22:28CIA-6r27533 build result: All green
22:22:39sudomanwhat about the / there?
22:22:53funmandualboot/ is a directory
22:22:59sudomanoh ; )
22:23:21z35Subcommand 'checkout' doesn't accept option '-R [−−recursive]'
22:23:48funmanz35: oops it's 'revert' not 'checkout' (sorry, i don't use svn very often)
22:29:31pixelmafunman: logo doesn't use PLA yet and I'm not sure if it would be suitable (there are left/right and up/down to adjust speed for the x and y axis and I believe a button for "still", not sure and "exit". Maybe it could work but it's not always best to use PLA, it's also not the scope of the patch to change the plugin around
22:30:50z35changed the #5 to #10 and it doesn't boot..
22:30:58z35though flash went success
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22:32:05funmantry forcing power off (keep pressing power for 20s or so)
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22:32:41funmanit could be a random crash
22:32:52n1syay, all coldfire targets now build fine without warnings with gcc 4.4.4
22:33:10funmanafter keeping power off pressed try again to power up normally, if it still doesn't work, next time power up by plugging USB
22:33:22funmann1s: do they boot though?
22:33:42n1sfunman: the h300 does, i don't have any other to test on
22:34:17n1salthough i've not tested anything but music playback yet, i should test some other features
22:34:24skfunnyboy_can anyone tell me how to compile mkamsboot ^^
22:34:58funmanskfunnyboy_: the usual way. what do you want to achieve?
22:36:18skfunnyboy_i think i get it
22:36:37z35#10, #50 did not work
22:37:23funmanbertrik: do you have an idea?
22:37:42z35hrm, one sec
22:38:41z35i might have done somethign dumb
22:39:31z35arm-elf-gcc: Command not found ...
22:40:06funmanz35: hm right, now we only install arm-elf-eabi-gcc by default
22:40:07z35should i change it to arm-elf-eabi-gcc
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22:50:53z35alright, make -C dualboot && make && cp ... between changing form #5, #10, and #50, none seemed to change
22:53:32funman ?
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22:54:24z35yeah, it loks that #5 i was change to 10, 20
22:55:17z35i see, one sec
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22:55:33z35and leave the orig at #5?
22:56:59funman(you can try with higher delays though)
22:59:41z35rockbox should load on normal boot, right?, so I can change both delays to 5,10, 10,10 50,10 5,50....
23:00:21funmanyes, OF should only boot if left button is pressed or USB is plugged
23:00:32funmanso the problem is it believes that left button is pushed
23:04:30skfunnyboy_i cannot put the rockbox patched formware on my fuze v2
23:05:28funmanskfunnyboy_: funman/fuzpa.bin.bz2"> < here is a patched OF
23:07:31skfunnyboy_THANKS !!!!! :D
23:07:41skfunnyboy_i searched this all the day !!
23:07:44n1samiconn: do you know if the patch for coldfire gcc on cygwin is needed in newer versions?
23:07:59n1s(the one for amd64 isn't)
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23:10:36funmann1s: perhaps m68040 didn't build properly?
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23:11:32z35tried them, nothing changed...
23:13:01funmanz35: i'm out of idea now, you can take a look at the (working) button code in firmware/target/arm/as3525/sansa-clipv2/button-clip.c
23:13:29n1sfunman: yeah, it just removes that cpu's multilibs but is that still needed or has it been fixed?
23:14:36n1si guess the easy way to test that is for someone on cygwin to try building gcc4.4.4 but that takes forever on cygwin :/
23:15:17CIA-6New commit by bieber (r27534): Theme Editor: Added interface for project export, exporting files to zip is still todo
23:15:29funmann1s: the easy way is to let people using cygwin do this work
23:15:47*n1s looks around for a guinea pig with cygwin :)
23:15:49funmani see the patch was also used (needed?) on FreeBSD/Darwin
23:16:12n1syes but i'd guess those are even rarer beasts
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23:16:51CIA-6r27534 build result: All green
23:16:55n1sin fact it seems any non-linux environment used for building needed it
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23:18:00n1sof course, test building the toolchain on cygwin is probably a good idea anyway
23:19:00funmani can't imagine how building anything on cygwin would be a good idea, but if you like that kind of things..
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23:20:04n1si mean that it would be bad to find out the toolchain doesn't build on cygwin *after* we switch
23:20:20n1si don't have a cygwin setup
23:20:26funmanit would be bad only if someone builds the toolchain on cygwin
23:20:45funmanso the problem reduces to: "will amiconn do coldfire dev on cygwin?"
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23:20:52n1swe have devs using cygin, don't we?
23:21:23funmani hope not much
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23:22:57funmani only know of amiconn and perhaps pixelma doing target development on cygwin
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23:24:46amiconnI don't use it regularly, but I do use it for voice building (via sapi), and sometimes for testing
23:25:17n1samiconn: could you test build a new toolchain?
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23:33:44Spaceghostany player with RK2706 Rockchip that can be rockboxed?
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23:34:14Spaceghostthat is a good chip? what is your opinion?
23:35:11n1snone of the devices supported by rockbox has a rockchip
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23:36:10Spaceghostbecause the most of them are low quality? generic players of chinese brands?
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23:40:31n1smostly because no one made a port for one, now why no one has made a port may be because of those reasons or others
23:40:40bertrikWe have a page on rockchip on our wiki
23:40:55bertrikDoesn't look too bad actually
23:43:02bertrikWe're not fundamentally opposed to players with this chip or anything like that, I guess there's hardly one with a player with this chip in it and enough motivation to start/investigate a port.
23:48:19Spaceghostplayers that are able to reproduce video with rockbox, can play video files. rmvb?
23:49:41bertrikRockbox only plays mpeg-1 and mpeg-2 video files
23:50:48Spaceghostxvid neither, no? it is mpeg-4?
23:50:49Spaceghostok, thanks
23:51:41SpaceghostI found the topic about that chip, and said some other reasons for not work on that chip:;topic=10428.0
23:54:52n1sthere appears to be different variants of rockchip with entirely different cpu cores according to that, anyway, ports are made to players not so much to SoC's
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