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| 00:19:05 | pixelma | bluebrother: could it be that the switch in font encoding (after the islandic name problem) made the unicode font package unnecessary? |
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| 01:17:28 | maraz | so, running at 24/48MHz now. absolutely everything rockbox writes onto the disk gets corrupted |
| 01:17:52 | maraz | not a lot, but enough to corrupt filenames and make things blow up. |
| 01:18:42 | maraz | hmm, interestingly, the files itself are okay, but the filenames aren't. |
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| 02:42:09 | S_a_i_n_t | someone *wanted* to ude rouckbox_default!?! o_0 |
| 02:42:18 | * | S_a_i_n_t is.....surprised. |
| 02:42:30 | S_a_i_n_t | *use, rather. |
| 02:42:56 | S_a_i_n_t | and - other typos |
| 02:44:27 | S_a_i_n_t | maraz: Did you see my post regarding the Nano1g and the oven? |
| 02:44:46 | S_a_i_n_t | I tried to replicate, I really did...I just, can't do it though. |
| 02:44:58 | maraz | i did, yes |
| 02:45:11 | maraz | i found it kind of strange. |
| 02:45:16 | maraz | when was your nano manufactured? |
| 02:45:55 | S_a_i_n_t | Pass, I have had it for about 5 years. |
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| 02:46:36 | S_a_i_n_t | That particular one was ready to give up its life in the name of science if it needed to. |
| 02:46:44 | S_a_i_n_t | It died a brave death. |
| 02:46:45 | maraz | i bought mine right after the launch |
| 02:46:54 | maraz | anyway |
| 02:47:10 | maraz | i underclocked to 24/48MHz, and while it did delay the problem, it does still occur |
| 02:47:22 | maraz | but what i learnt today while cycling around totally blew my mind |
| 02:47:27 | S_a_i_n_t | I think your flash chip might be on its way out...which there's basically nothing you can do about it. |
| 02:47:38 | maraz | if you hold the nano like steve tells you to hold the iphone 4, ... |
| 02:47:42 | maraz | it.. just.. magically.. works. |
| 02:47:54 | maraz | yeah, i fear it may be that, too. |
| 02:48:05 | maraz | i wonder if there's anything that could be done about it |
| 02:48:25 | S_a_i_n_t | So heat, or maybe just pure coincidence, causes the issue to worsen. |
| 02:48:43 | S_a_i_n_t | And no, short of replacing the flash chip...no. |
| 02:49:05 | S_a_i_n_t | I replaced the NAND in a Nano2G once, and, I would not advise it. |
| 02:49:28 | maraz | smd? |
| 02:49:57 | S_a_i_n_t | smd? |
| 02:53:21 | S_a_i_n_t | I'm not dissappointed I melted a Nano trying to replicate this, but for me the real kicker was that you have dropped the max clock speed to a setting you confirmed as working before the change in the soure you associated with corrupting your data/causing the issue...and, it still has the issue with the lower clock. |
| 02:53:37 | S_a_i_n_t | I'm sorry, but it seems to point to your hardware being on its way out. |
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| 04:37:59 | goffa | Torne: does disk.c and gigabeats.h have any affect on beastpatcher? |
| 04:38:08 | goffa | actually anyone can answer that if they know :) |
| 04:38:24 | goffa | finally got back to where i can play with my 240gb drive again |
| 04:39:06 | goffa | but it seems that its only seeing 137gb of the drive in cfdisk |
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| 04:44:52 | maraz | S_a_i_n_t: what really baffles me is that read/write from windows works perfectly. |
| 04:45:13 | maraz | if it was indeed the NAND that was at fault, it would affect use in disk mode, too. |
| 04:45:40 | maraz | instead it is rockbox that causes corruption |
| 04:46:30 | maraz | the clock speed change was definitely not the only change between r16xxx and current ;) |
| 04:46:44 | maraz | or whatever the 75MHz revision was, i forget |
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| 04:47:47 | maraz | funny filenames... |
| 04:47:53 | maraz | ~NVR@I.IN |
| 04:47:57 | maraz | nvr`m*"in |
| 04:48:01 | maraz | NVRAM.BHN |
| 04:48:12 | maraz | ßAGNAV~1.CON |
| 04:48:16 | maraz | ßbqtil.hoc |
| 04:48:19 | maraz | ßIEWER~1.COJ |
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| 05:11:19 | JdGordon1 | ^ broken filesystem |
| 05:11:31 | maraz | indeed |
| 05:14:49 | maraz | well |
| 05:16:31 | maraz | in disk mode, clean install of rockbox on formatted filesystem which checks out using chkdsk -> eject, disconnect, reboot to OF so it creates its folders etc. -> reboot to disk mode and connect to computer, RESULT: no corruption. |
| 05:17:36 | maraz | eject, disconnect, reboot to rockbox, save .cfg file so it writes something to the filesystem -> reboot to disk mode and connect to computer: RESULT: all files that were written have very funky filenames. |
| 05:18:15 | maraz | this, coupled with the fact that the flash works just fine in windows, leads me to believe that the NAND is not dying and something else is at fault |
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| 05:30:12 | maraz | yeah, there is no question about it, rockbox is at fault here |
| 05:30:43 | maraz | as to why it works for others and not for my (first batch?) device, i haven't the slightest glimmer of a clue |
| 05:31:45 | maraz | all i can tell is problems began back in 2007 when the new bootloader was rolled in, with the ipodpatcher one everything worked |
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| 07:16:19 | pixelma | mc2739: do you remember more about http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/manual/configure_rockbox/recording_settings.tex?r1=23795&r2=23804? - I specifically wonder about the \nopt{radio} and then \nopt some targets again which as far as I can see are the ones without radio and hence already excluded |
| 07:16:44 | pixelma | maybe I need a coffee first but I can't make sense of that currently |
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| 07:25:19 | pixelma | it also |
| 07:27:13 | pixelma | the "FM Radio" option is also no recording source setting on hwcodec radio targets, they record directly from the radio screen |
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| 07:32:31 | pixelma | that was wrong before though |
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| 08:14:52 | Buschel | maraz: a pitty the underclocking did not solve your problem. as you report write problems -> did you check r23740? maybe mulitsector writes are the problem? |
| 08:15:01 | Buschel | maraz: just wild guesses... |
| 08:20:22 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r27527): Theme Editor: Filled out the targets table in buildtargetdb.php and generated a new targetdb with it |
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| 08:27:07 | Buschel | if coldfire guys search for an easy-to-optimize codec, he points towards atrac3. especially atrac3_iqmf_dewindowing() is shouting for using emac. |
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| 09:38:27 | pixelma | bieber: just a small heads-up because the theme site has the same problem the 11x2 for the Archos Player are not pixels, it has a charcell display not a bitmap one, so that means there are 2 lines with space for 11 characters each |
| 09:38:52 | bieber | Ohh, okay |
| 09:39:11 | bieber | I'll have to add a special case for that, I guess. Is that the only target that works that way? |
| 09:39:32 | pixelma | yes |
| 09:39:39 | bieber | Thanks |
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| 09:42:44 | pixelma | and is the "remote" only used for deciding on display and RWP vs. WPS? I'm asking because the Iaudio M3 has a remote but since there is no display on the main target, the remote display is treated as main display and you have WPSs, but there is still a main target hold and a remote hold (in case the inclusion of possible tags is based on it too) |
| 09:44:04 | pixelma | maybe this thing will solve itself once we figure the tag description etc. out? |
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| 10:52:25 | Torne | goffa: whose USB mode are you using to access the beast disk? |
| 10:52:41 | Torne | goffa: you will need to have already installed the rockbox bootloader and be using our USB mode to see the whole drive |
| 10:52:56 | Torne | goffa: and you'll need a bootloader that was compiled since I added HAVE_LBA48 to all disk targets |
| 10:53:37 | Torne | goffa: i recommend leaving both partitions as they are formatted by the OF and only adding a third partition in the remaining space, which is less convenient but less likely to make it crap itself and reformat, maybe. |
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| 11:58:58 | gevaerts | Does anyone believe that "Sock Box" is a real name? |
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| 12:04:48 | funman | gevaerts: why not? perhaps you could ask this person though |
| 12:05:54 | funman | (it sounds strange to me too, but you never know) |
| 12:06:35 | gevaerts | My doubts are strong enough to hide all themes by this person |
| 12:09:06 | funman | is anonymous theme contribution forbidden? |
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| 12:10:17 | funman | in an hypothetical case of copyright infringement, it's dead easy to delete themes, compared to remove all wiki/code contributions from an author |
| 12:11:34 | gevaerts | we ask for real names, yes |
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| 12:12:12 | funman | what's the point, isn't it for potential copyright abuse? |
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| 12:13:07 | gevaerts | I'm sure the discussion about this is in the logs somewhere |
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| 12:29:04 | mrsean2k | I've just built the latest SVN code (r27530-100723) and applies the latest voice file from the download page, but the two seem to be out of synch. How do I rebuild to bring the voice file in line? |
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| 12:35:46 | mrsean2k | To quantify that a bit, if you enable voice menus and then navigate to "Theme Setting" it seems to be voiced as "Central European". Other examples further up and deeper in, as it were. |
| 12:37:24 | funman | mrsean2k: you should be able to generate voice files with rockbox utility |
| 12:42:28 | mrsean2k | Ah, ok, just using the vanilla downloadable utility outside the build process? |
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| 12:46:06 | funman | the voice must be in sync with the code so i think you should build rbutil from svn too, but i'm not very familiar with the process |
| 12:50:54 | mrsean2k | funman: that makes two of us then. Should probably have mentioned, this is testing in the simulator rather than on target. I'll try pointing rbutil at my simdisk directory as a mountpoint for the player and see what happens, ta. |
| 12:51:24 | funman | perhaps a developer will be able to answer after the lunch break |
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| 12:56:42 | mrsean2k | funman: that did the trick. I cranked up the vanilla rbutil, pointed it at my simdisk directory as the location of the player, and it happily built the voicefile bringing it back into line (as far as I've tested). Thanks for the pointer. Now speaking of lunch... |
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| 13:31:26 | pixelma | mc2739: did you see my question earlier? |
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| 13:49:28 | dfkt | is there a fast, easy way to clear all applied patches from svn, without deleting and re-downloading all, or manually reverting all single patches? |
| 13:49:44 | S_a_i_n_t | yep. |
| 13:49:46 | S_a_i_n_t | one sec. |
| 13:50:28 | S_a_i_n_t | "svn revert -R ." |
| 13:50:33 | S_a_i_n_t | with the quotes |
| 13:50:41 | S_a_i_n_t | do that in your source directory |
| 13:50:54 | dfkt | very nice, thanks a lot, S_a_i_n_t |
| 13:51:01 | S_a_i_n_t | No problems. |
| 13:51:14 | S_a_i_n_t | I just set it as an alias myself. |
| 13:51:28 | S_a_i_n_t | what development environment do you use? |
| 13:51:50 | dfkt | xubuntu in vmware |
| 13:52:44 | S_a_i_n_t | Ah, I was going to offer a rather large list of aliasses I keep in my .bashrc file, but few people use CygWin. |
| 13:53:23 | dfkt | i just keep all relevant commands in a text file, and copy/paste to the cli :) |
| 13:53:31 | dfkt | not very elegant, but works |
| 13:54:37 | S_a_i_n_t | I'm not sure how to set an alias in your environment, but, it sounds like it would be your friend ;) |
| 13:54:43 | S_a_i_n_t | Sure beats c/p |
| 13:54:45 | S_a_i_n_t | well, IMO |
| 13:55:50 | mc2739 | pixelma: yes, and I do not remember the how I came up with that. |
| 13:55:56 | dfkt | i just reverted all - works like a charm, but without quotes on ubuntu |
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| 13:56:47 | S_a_i_n_t | errr...sorry about that dfkt, I completely missed the "out" from "without" |
| 13:56:52 | * | S_a_i_n_t feels embarrased. |
| 13:57:04 | dfkt | heh, no worries :) |
| 13:57:11 | S_a_i_n_t | Glad you worked it out though XD |
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| 14:12:07 | pixelma | mc2739: ok, just thought I'd ask in case there was a specific reason to do it this way. Other than that I'd like to rewrite it to (a) use as few actual target options as possible (the reason why it caught my interest) and (b) be correct about the hwcodec targets :) |
| 14:12:18 | pixelma | will look into it later |
| 14:13:24 | pixelma | S_a_i_n_t: you don't need the quotes in cygwin either |
| 14:13:51 | pixelma | oh... without... sorry ;) |
| 14:14:10 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: Yes, I know...if you contimue reading I fully typo'd "without", neglecting the "out" ;) |
| 14:14:20 | S_a_i_n_t | AH, you saw. |
| 14:14:34 | S_a_i_n_t | ETOOMANYTYPO |
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| 14:23:26 | S_a_i_n_t | mrsean2k: Did you say you "built" the latest revision? As in, you have a build environment set up? Just mkdir a directory called "voicefile" (or, whatever you want really), cd to that directory, do "../tools/configure" and select your target type, choose A for (A)dvanced and press ENTER, now choose V for (V)oice and press ENTER, press ENTER again to confirm, select your language (English is default), select your TTS engine...done. Now you will have a ma |
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| 14:37:11 | mrsean2k | Saint: thanks, I've just worked out that the rbutil method seems to have corrected the mismatch I had on the build, but doesn't add new strings (or at least my attempts haven't worked). Off to follow your advice... |
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| 14:39:20 | S_a_i_n_t | mrsean2k: Let me know if you get stuck, or if my semo wasn't clear enough. |
| 14:39:29 | S_a_i_n_t | s/semo/demo/ |
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| 14:48:17 | mrsean2k | saint: Ta! Dependency on texinfo -> makeinfo -> eabi toolchain, so just installing / compiling that now. Looks like a sandwiches worth of time to me, so my delayed lunch kicks in now. |
| 14:51:42 | Torne | i'm pretty sure you should be able to build the toolchain without makeinfo |
| 14:53:00 | Torne | the internet suggests just symlinking it to /bin/true will work :) |
| 14:53:16 | Torne | gcc is being dumb and regenerating info files it already has compiled |
| 14:53:36 | Torne | you should only need texinfo installed if you actually modify one of the .texi files in gcc |
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| 15:01:12 | * | S_a_i_n_t was fairly confident that mrsean2k said he had built the latest revision for his player anyway...so, shouldn't he *already* have the toolchain installed? o_0 |
| 15:01:49 | S_a_i_n_t | Isn't everything that can be built using eabi doing so now? |
| 15:02:14 | S_a_i_n_t | or, is the mini1/2g still using arm-elf? |
| 15:02:52 | Torne | yes, everything is built with eabi now |
| 15:03:09 | Torne | you only need the oabi toolchain if you explicitly choose to use it |
| 15:04:17 | S_a_i_n_t | it defaults to eabi, so, you only *don't* use eabi if you explicitly choose *not* to use it ;) |
| 15:13:11 | mrsean2k | saint et al: yes I've been building away for some time. I suspect I created my voicefile directory in the wrong relative place on the filesystem, so I may have confused matters. I'll just make sure my standard build still works then check what I've fluffed |
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| 15:28:48 | mrsean2k | Saint: zapped my old directory, created a new one at the same level as my standard builed, config'ed and make'd. No sign of a .voice file tho. Where should I look? |
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| 15:32:05 | goffa | Torne: using linux to mount the disk... when i tried with the standard compile of the bootloader and plugged it in it seemed like fdisk only 137.4gb total for the drive |
| 15:32:16 | Torne | where did you ge tthe bootloader from, though? |
| 15:32:22 | Torne | did you build it yourself from svn? |
| 15:32:24 | goffa | i tried adding a third, but it said no space available, but i think that's because it only saw 137 gb |
| 15:32:41 | Torne | unless you built it yourself it won' thave LBA48 support |
| 15:32:44 | goffa | yeah.. i built it myself through svn |
| 15:32:52 | Torne | well, that should work.. |
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| 15:33:25 | goffa | the first time i didn't add lba48 support in gigabeats.h |
| 15:33:36 | Torne | it should already be there |
| 15:33:40 | Torne | I already added lba48 support to every target |
| 15:33:41 | goffa | or that 0x77 line to disk.c |
| 15:33:44 | goffa | ok |
| 15:33:49 | Torne | if it's not already there you have an ancient version |
| 15:34:05 | Torne | ..i don't know what you mean by 0x77 line |
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| 15:34:25 | goffa | back in june someone suggested i try this patch ... http://pastie.org/970037.txt |
| 15:34:53 | Torne | right |
| 15:35:09 | Torne | yes, that's what you'll need to create a partition rockbox can see but the OF doesn't |
| 15:35:16 | Torne | but that's 0xff, not 0x77 |
| 15:35:22 | Torne | which is why i was confused :) |
| 15:35:26 | goffa | you are right.. i can't type :) |
| 15:35:42 | goffa | or read/remember... lol |
| 15:36:02 | gevaerts | goffa: do you have dmesg output from the device detection? |
| 15:36:16 | Torne | so you are definately running a bootloader you compiled yourself from svn? |
| 15:36:20 | Torne | not the one that beastpatcher comes with? |
| 15:36:42 | goffa | gevaerts: at what point? |
| 15:37:01 | giovanni__ | Hi all |
| 15:37:21 | goffa | Torne: let me backtrack... initially i patched it with the one that beastpatcher came with .. that's when it only saw the 137.4 |
| 15:37:23 | gevaerts | goffa: the sd? bits, mainly starting from "XXXXX 512-byte logical blocks" |
| 15:37:35 | Torne | The bootloader included in beastpatcher won't have lba48 support, no |
| 15:37:45 | Torne | new bootloaders haven't been released for most targets since I made that change |
| 15:37:47 | * | gevaerts waits for the backtracking to be complete :) |
| 15:37:56 | Torne | you need to have built your own and just use beastpatcher to install it. |
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| 15:38:10 | giovanni__ | Since the Onda's players has ot an external speaker, is it possible to create an wps tag to wiew if the speaker is enabled or not? |
| 15:38:10 | goffa | when i added 0xff and tried to patch, i get this: [INFO] Bootloader installed successfully. |
| 15:38:12 | goffa | PTP: Closing session |
| 15:38:14 | goffa | ERROR: Could not close session! |
| 15:38:16 | goffa | Press ENTER to exit beastpatcher: |
| 15:38:40 | goffa | i unplug... but the beast doesn't like it, and wipes the drive (error 3) |
| 15:39:59 | goffa | and fyi gevaerts here's the output sd 14:0:0:0: [sdd] 268435455 512-byte logical blocks: (137 GB/127 GiB) |
| 15:40:10 | gevaerts | goffa: once you have a working bootloader, you should be able to replace it by directly copying to the firmware partition. |
| 15:40:31 | goffa | oh.. ok |
| 15:40:35 | gevaerts | Maybe the new one isn't accepted due to lack of dual boot or presence of dual boot? |
| 15:40:54 | gevaerts | giovanni__: that should be possible |
| 15:41:02 | goffa | could be... i do notice the file size is slightly larger.. i didn't know if that was an issue |
| 15:41:31 | goffa | i'll have to play with this some more tonight after work |
| 15:41:55 | goffa | this info does help for sure... |
| 15:42:12 | giovanni__ | gevaerts: it would be great, I will try to code it myself but I'm not so good, anyway there's already a patch for onda's made by me that I think should be committed |
| 15:42:33 | giovanni__ | that patch is for the yes & no screen |
| 15:42:57 | goffa | so ... theoretically ... i could take a non patched bootloader from beastpatcher (just so it will boot) |
| 15:43:04 | goffa | then take the one i built and copy to that partition |
| 15:43:14 | gevaerts | giovanni__: ah, right. That should work for all touchscreen targets I guess? |
| 15:43:15 | goffa | then go and fdisk the drive? |
| 15:43:38 | goffa | to add that next partition of course |
| 15:43:43 | giovanni__ | not really |
| 15:44:06 | giovanni__ | for example , the cowon D2 has already another way to say yes |
| 15:44:16 | gevaerts | oh, I see |
| 15:44:22 | giovanni__ | the ondavx777 has only one phisical button |
| 15:45:22 | gevaerts | hm, wouldn't it be better to actually fix the real problem and have the yesno screen support absolute mode? |
| 15:45:38 | giovanni__ | so, it is the only one that can be used, or, the whole yes & no should be rewritten for touch screen targets, like the keyboard already is |
| 15:45:55 | giovanni__ | yes |
| 15:46:07 | giovanni__ | but I am not able to fix that |
| 15:46:17 | giovanni__ | not a good coder :) |
| 15:46:39 | gevaerts | I'm not sure if I'm in favour of these workarounds in svn |
| 15:46:42 | S_a_i_n_t | mrsean2k: Lets say you created a directory inside your source directory called "myvoicefile", after you've done "../tools/configure" etc. etc. and generated the makefile for the voicefile, then done "make voice" to build the voicefile, the voicefile you have just built will be in "<path_to_source-code_dir>/myvoicefile". It will be called "<My_selected_language>.voice" (english.voice for example) |
| 15:47:20 | giovanni__ | I can understand your point of view, but as now, it is the only way to have it usable |
| 15:47:52 | gevaerts | How about disabling absolute mode at the start of the yesno handling and restoring it afterwards? |
| 15:48:49 | giovanni__ | yes, others plugin uses yhis method, but itìs still a work around, not a good solution |
| 15:49:16 | gevaerts | I agree, but I think it's a cleaner workaround than adding different buttons for each target |
| 15:49:55 | giovanni__ | in my opinion, it sould work as the virtual keyboard, with support for absolute mode, and a couple of virtual button, yes and no |
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| 15:51:08 | mrsean2k | Saint: Aha, in your original message, "make voice" was truncated to "ma.." so I'd missed the "voice" bit off. All is clear now, and the file is there, thanks. |
| 15:52:59 | S_a_i_n_t | mrsean2k: Hppy to help. |
| 15:53:07 | S_a_i_n_t | *happy, even ;) |
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| 15:54:06 | S_a_i_n_t | mrsean2k: A little off-topic, but you may have to adjust the flood setting in your IRC client to stop it from truncating messages. |
| 15:54:27 | S_a_i_n_t | The paragraph was long, but not insanely long... |
| 15:55:40 | mrsean2k | Saint: I've lazily jumped into web client instead of a standalone IRC client. I'll switch. |
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| 16:10:51 | seani | Oops, not "mrsean2k" in here, but "seani". Ah well. So, I've gone round in circles a bit on voice generation. I can now create a file but is seems to be back out of step. |
| 16:11:16 | kugel | bieber: how do I use the theme editor? :) |
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| 16:11:31 | S_a_i_n_t | seani: Were you the one working on a customizable main menu? |
| 16:11:40 | kugel | w.r.t. to projects I mean, for .wps files only it seems pretty straightforward |
| 16:12:40 | seani | I've added a new identifier / entry to the english.lang file and employed it in the code as a setting for track skip. Then make clean, make, make install in the main build directory |
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| 16:14:06 | seani | Then whip over to the voicebuild directory and do a make voice, and copy the resultant voice file into the lang directory in simdisk back on my main build. But a heap of entries are now voiced incorrectly. |
| 16:15:25 | seani | S_a_i_n_t: I was thinking about it for a bit, but at the minute abandoned in favour of some test changes for blind / partially sighted users. |
| 16:15:49 | S_a_i_n_t | Hmmm...pass. As long as the voice and the build are built with the same revision/source then it should "just work" |
| 16:16:10 | S_a_i_n_t | seani: Aha, I thought I remembered the nick. |
| 16:16:27 | S_a_i_n_t | If it helps, customizable menus are no longer a "NoDo" :P |
| 16:16:50 | S_a_i_n_t | (provided it is done in a sane manner of course) |
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| 16:22:16 | kugel | bieber: nevermind |
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| 16:51:44 | kugel | bieber: the albumart available button should be available in the fm status tab too IMO |
| 16:54:15 | z35 | greetings, I am using a sansa clip v2 and I cannot get it to install. The first two times, I used the gui (which is nice), then I did it a couple times manually, each time, it says that it completes the flash upgrade, but rockbox doesn't boot, it boots the OF |
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| 17:10:17 | kugel | z35: can you flash your clip with a OF that has the t suffix? |
| 17:11:45 | kugel | z35: nevermind, wait for funman/bertrik. it's possible that you got a newer version where the current mkamsboot doesn't work with |
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| 17:14:00 | z35 | kugel, alright |
| 17:15:12 | kugel | z35: which OF version have you got? |
| 17:15:31 | z35 | latest clip02.01.35.zip |
| 17:16:01 | saratoga | you probably need to wait for everything to be updated to work with the newer clips |
| 17:16:11 | saratoga | its mostly working now, so probably won't take too long |
| 17:16:53 | z35 | excellent, you wouldn't happen to know where i can get an older fimware version? |
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| 17:21:23 | z35 | nvm, i found one |
| 17:21:24 | Torne | the new clips can't be downgraded to the older versions, they have different hardware |
| 17:21:52 | z35 | so i cannot go from 2.1.35 -> 2.1.32 ? |
| 17:22:11 | z35 | or the 2.* series doesn't work w/ mkams |
| 17:22:18 | Torne | i forget which range of versions is okay |
| 17:22:26 | Torne | but you can't do anything to your clip that will make it work with the current rockbox |
| 17:22:38 | Torne | you'll have to wait until people are done fixing rockbox to work on te new clips |
| 17:22:49 | Torne | which, as saratoga said, is mostly working now, so hopefully soon |
| 17:22:51 | z35 | alright, thank you |
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| 17:28:10 | kugel | z35: I actually don't think that's your problem |
| 17:28:44 | kugel | so far the "newer clip" has only occured to the clip+, and your OF version looks OK to me |
| 17:29:26 | kugel | it's is several month and should be a problem |
| 17:30:32 | kugel | the playlist viewer is useless |
| 17:30:41 | kugel | I mean the skin tag |
| 17:31:21 | pokes | big thanks to rockbox for fixing it for the new clip+ |
| 17:31:56 | S_a_i_n_t | kugel: why? |
| 17:32:02 | S_a_i_n_t | what's useless about it? |
| 17:32:21 | kugel | too limited |
| 17:32:38 | S_a_i_n_t | it's not *that* limited. |
| 17:32:42 | S_a_i_n_t | better than nothing. |
| 17:33:04 | z35 | the mkamsboot works, says the correct firmware, etc, i even tried the prior version, 2.1.32, both flash okay, it just doesn't seem to load rockbox... |
| 17:33:05 | kugel | it appears it doesn't allow me to make sublines in the fms (e.g. 1s of "Next ....", then 1s of the station name, then 1s of the station freq) |
| 17:33:18 | S_a_i_n_t | what else would you like it to do that it doesn't do currently? |
| 17:33:24 | kugel | S_a_i_n_t: there's better alternatives in the wps, but not in the fms |
| 17:33:28 | S_a_i_n_t | And, it doesn't allow sublines at all IIRC |
| 17:34:01 | S_a_i_n_t | btw, the fms is horribly broken...that may be what you are seeing. |
| 17:34:18 | S_a_i_n_t | perhaps it does do sublines, I'm not sure...but updating is FUCKED in the fms |
| 17:34:46 | S_a_i_n_t | most tags will not update without a full screen redraw at the moment. |
| 17:35:02 | S_a_i_n_t | you have to exit the fms and re-enter it to get the tags to update :/ |
| 17:35:34 | kugel | I noticed that |
| 17:35:59 | S_a_i_n_t | that may be why sublines don't work. (if you can actually use sublines) |
| 17:36:11 | pokes | would the fixes for the new hardware clip+ be on build.rockbox.org? is it that up-to-date+ |
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| 17:37:32 | pokes | ah wait, nevermind, i'd have to cross-compile a bootloader still |
| 17:38:17 | kugel | S_a_i_n_t: I can't remember that sublines ever worked with it |
| 17:39:05 | kugel | I think %Tn and friends could simply take an optional parameter for the preset number |
| 17:39:20 | S_a_i_n_t | kugel: I'm not sure either...I don't *think* it did, but I do know that if it did work, you wouldn't actually be able to get it to work at present as the fms is horribly, horribly broken. |
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| 17:40:07 | S_a_i_n_t | kugel: Does your target support RDS? |
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| 17:44:43 | S_a_i_n_t | kugel: Are you able to check if " %s%al%?tx<Yes%, I have RDS|No%, I do not have RDS> " works on your device please? |
| 17:44:54 | S_a_i_n_t | I am trying to confirm a bug with that tag. |
| 17:45:41 | S_a_i_n_t | s/"that tag/" %tx "/ |
| 17:45:57 | AlexP | S_a_i_n_t: Only the ipod video radio remote has RDS implemented atm |
| 17:46:11 | AlexP | The beast has RDS, but not implemented |
| 17:46:37 | n1s | does anyone know if the patch for the coldfire gcc on cygwin is needed for newer gcc versions? |
| 17:46:48 | S_a_i_n_t | AlexP: Sure, but apparently the conditional crashes the fms on device, I'm trying to confirm this. |
| 17:46:58 | S_a_i_n_t | mc2739 saw it on device |
| 17:47:35 | n1s | hmm, tremor doesn't fit iram with new gcc + my prefered tuning |
| 17:47:43 | * | n1s gets the shoehorn out |
| 17:47:57 | AlexP | S_a_i_n_t: I'm just pointing out that unless kugel has an ipod radio remote thing, then he doesn't have a rds supporting target |
| 17:48:19 | kugel | let's see if I have a fix for the update issue |
| 17:48:43 | S_a_i_n_t | the line I had was "Is there RDS? if yes, display it. If no, display Preset Name", mc2739 said that not even the false condition of this worked, as his device does not support RDS |
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| 17:49:24 | S_a_i_n_t | he commented out the lines that used %?tx, and the .fms worked |
| 17:49:26 | AlexP | I know, you are missing my point |
| 17:49:29 | AlexP | But don't worry |
| 17:50:31 | S_a_i_n_t | I realise your point, but I guess I worded it incorrectly....I basically need *anyone* with an FM target to test that line on device for me. |
| 17:50:38 | sudoman | hi, i just re-formatted my ipod 5.5g using the instructions at http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodManualRestore and now i have 3 partitions, the third being called /dev/sda and is -80 GB [sic]. |
| 17:51:01 | sudoman | and it's not mounting. i get the error: Error mounting: mount: /dev/sda2: can't read superblock |
| 17:51:08 | S_a_i_n_t | It works correctly in the SIM, but, not on device apparently |
| 17:51:22 | sudoman | it boots up fine, but the ipod says it has 0 KB free |
| 17:52:01 | Torne | sudoman: do you have absolutely no ability to restore with itunes? |
| 17:52:15 | Torne | because it's *way* easier, and it's only worth doing a manual restore if there's no possibility of doing it that way |
| 17:52:28 | sudoman | i'm on a linux computer. i have access to windows computers, but i don't have admin access. |
| 17:52:51 | S_a_i_n_t | you don;t need admin access to restore an iPod using iTunes IIUC |
| 17:52:59 | Torne | S_a_i_n_t: you do to install itunes, though |
| 17:53:04 | Torne | because itunes installs some services |
| 17:53:08 | S_a_i_n_t | Ah. |
| 17:53:13 | Torne | so unless the machine alrady has it, you rae out of luck |
| 17:53:19 | S_a_i_n_t | I was assuming it was already installed :/ |
| 17:53:34 | sudoman | hm no, i don't think so... but ther is a guy next to me... |
| 17:54:11 | Torne | Right |
| 17:54:15 | sudoman | ok, he's gonna install itunes for me. ; ) |
| 17:54:30 | Torne | I'm juhst saying, if you followed the instructions and it didn't work, then it's almost certainly less effort to ask that guy than to work out what went wrong ;) |
| 17:54:31 | sudoman | but it would be cool to get the instructions working for linux |
| 17:54:36 | Torne | They have worked for people in the past |
| 17:54:50 | Torne | so, either you made a mistake or your linux is different or your ipod is magic :) |
| 17:55:11 | S_a_i_n_t | Magic iPod...Wooo! |
| 17:55:13 | Torne | it's just way easier to suggest people use itunes rather than work out all possible variations of what could possibly go wrong |
| 17:55:16 | Torne | sorry :) |
| 17:55:37 | Torne | i have successfully restored a 5.5g using those instructoins, at least |
| 17:55:51 | sudoman | ok. one thing is that i followed the instructions for mformat from the OS X instructions because i was getting an error using the linux instructions and there was a link saying to see the OSX instructions for details on how to do it. |
| 17:56:34 | S_a_i_n_t | It's completely understandable...iTunes == Click 1 button, done. Linux == Piss around, piss around some more...and some more, and *maybe* it worked if you did it absolutely correctly. |
| 17:57:45 | Torne | S_a_i_n_t: well if there was a problem with doing it with itunes we'd care more about alternatives, i guess |
| 17:58:01 | Torne | but itunes happily handles upgraded disks (including ones that need LBA48) and other weird variations without blinking |
| 17:58:06 | Torne | soo, yeah, it' sjust easier ;) |
| 17:58:16 | Torne | and it's never wrong about what model an ipod is, etiehr ;) |
| 17:58:16 | n1s | hmm, is asm to optimize code size while keeping speed a good idea? |
| 17:58:24 | S_a_i_n_t | Indeed, it's just *so* easy to restore using iTunes...its the only thing the program is useful for ;) |
| 17:59:28 | kugel | the radio screen needs a serious rewrite |
| 17:59:46 | S_a_i_n_t | kugel: Amen, but, its out of my league |
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| 18:01:17 | S_a_i_n_t | kugel: fwiw, the updating issue only used to affect the progressbar (for tuning), that worked fine now (it was "fixed") and the updating for everything else broke. |
| 18:01:33 | kugel | the quick & dirty fix works, the more intelligent one doesn't :( |
| 18:01:55 | n1s | woha, the icode section of framing.o grew 4k |
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| 18:02:48 | kugel | S_a_i_n_t: for me, mostly album art doesn't update |
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| 18:04:28 | S_a_i_n_t | kugel: %?tm<Scan|Preset> does not update either |
| 18:04:54 | S_a_i_n_t | Or, any conditional that I have tried actually... |
| 18:05:02 | S_a_i_n_t | (in the .fms) |
| 18:05:14 | S_a_i_n_t | All need a fullscreen redraw to update :/ |
| 18:05:41 | kugel | that's what I'm trying to achieve |
| 18:06:29 | S_a_i_n_t | kugel: If you could please test " %s%al%?tx<Yes%, I have RDS|No%, I do not have RDS> " for me, it would really help to confirm a bug. |
| 18:06:50 | S_a_i_n_t | the symptoms should be the .fms failing to load. |
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| 18:07:29 | S_a_i_n_t | I'd test it if I could, but I have no FM hardware...and, it works in the SIM but failed on device for mc2739 |
| 18:07:35 | kugel | S_a_i_n_t: it can't work, actually |
| 18:07:43 | kugel | looking at the code |
| 18:07:47 | S_a_i_n_t | it *can't*? |
| 18:07:53 | S_a_i_n_t | It works in the SIM |
| 18:09:17 | kugel | there's no code to rule out non-rds targets |
| 18:09:24 | kugel | in the related code |
| 18:09:44 | S_a_i_n_t | Hmmmm...so, it is always "true"? |
| 18:10:00 | n1s | almost all that growt is in one function, which grew a whooping 280% |
| 18:10:06 | S_a_i_n_t | and, if the device had no RDS capability, it would fail. |
| 18:10:15 | S_a_i_n_t | makes sense to what mc2739 was seeing |
| 18:10:40 | kugel | S_a_i_n_t: I mean the true part isn't ignored on non-RDS targets |
| 18:10:51 | S_a_i_n_t | Ah. |
| 18:10:57 | kugel | which means it will act as if the rds tags existed |
| 18:11:07 | kugel | they don't, which can cause random results |
| 18:11:42 | S_a_i_n_t | Well, for mc2739 the .fms just would not load on device until he commented out the "%?tx" lines. |
| 18:11:56 | kugel | which doesn't surprise me at all |
| 18:12:06 | kugel | I'm surprised it works in the sim though |
| 18:12:08 | S_a_i_n_t | Why however, does it work on the SIM? |
| 18:12:20 | S_a_i_n_t | Ah, so you don;t know either ;) |
| 18:12:46 | S_a_i_n_t | A *lot* of things surprise me about the SIM :P |
| 18:13:36 | kugel | your test case doesn't include a rds tag, that may be why |
| 18:14:33 | kugel | for %?tx<%ty|%Tn> I get a parser error |
| 18:15:10 | S_a_i_n_t | %s%ac%?tx<%ty|%Tn> works in the SIM |
| 18:15:28 | S_a_i_n_t | as does %s%ac%?tx<%tz> |
| 18:15:34 | kugel | if you consder a parser error working yes |
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| 18:16:28 | S_a_i_n_t | those are the two lines that "crashed" the .fms on device |
| 18:16:43 | kugel | you said it wouldn't load |
| 18:16:58 | kugel | which doesn't equal crash |
| 18:17:13 | S_a_i_n_t | hence the quotes, I didn't know what to call it. |
| 18:17:19 | S_a_i_n_t | Yes, it didn;t load. |
| 18:17:50 | kugel | well crash would be a panic or freeze |
| 18:17:54 | S_a_i_n_t | Loads in the sim, but, not on device. |
| 18:18:06 | kugel | it doesn't load in the sim, it gives a parser error |
| 18:18:34 | S_a_i_n_t | I had it working in the sim. |
| 18:18:41 | kugel | which sim |
| 18:18:46 | S_a_i_n_t | Nano1g |
| 18:18:51 | kugel | I'm talking about a non-rds one here |
| 18:19:06 | kugel | nano1g has rds, because the ipod fm remote has it |
| 18:19:10 | n1s | ah, it was inlining like mad |
| 18:19:43 | kugel | as AlexP said :) |
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| 18:20:16 | kugel | oh, he only mentioned ipod video, but I assume that remote works on all ipods? |
| 18:20:28 | S_a_i_n_t | Yeah. |
| 18:20:31 | S_a_i_n_t | It does. |
| 18:20:40 | AlexP | I initially mentioed video, but I shouldn't have |
| 18:20:40 | kugel | so yea, it loads for them |
| 18:21:23 | kugel | it won't load for non-rds targets, because the %tx tag is not known |
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| 18:21:34 | kugel | err, %ty/%tz |
| 18:22:34 | S_a_i_n_t | why does it not display the "false" case then? |
| 18:22:52 | S_a_i_n_t | (for non-RDS targets) |
| 18:24:14 | CIA-6 | New commit by kugel (r27531): Make %tx work as intended, so that it ignores the true case for non-RDS targets. |
| 18:24:25 | S_a_i_n_t | woo! |
| 18:24:30 | kugel | S_a_i_n_t: I mentioned the reason |
| 18:25:05 | S_a_i_n_t | Ah, sorry. I had missed that. |
| 18:25:13 | S_a_i_n_t | Thanks, btw. |
| 18:26:02 | CIA-6 | r27531 build result: 245 errors, 0 warnings (kugel committed) |
| 18:26:18 | S_a_i_n_t | eeek! |
| 18:27:43 | kugel | oh, that commit is completely broken! |
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| 18:33:21 | CIA-6 | New commit by kugel (r27532): The previous commit was broken, not only because of the red. Fix it. |
| 18:34:53 | CIA-6 | r27532 build result: All green |
| 18:36:38 | kugel | S_a_i_n_t: do you need to escape "," now? |
| 18:36:50 | S_a_i_n_t | kugel: Yes. |
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| 18:47:19 | skfunnyboy | hi |
| 18:47:32 | skfunnyboy | hi |
| 18:48:45 | sudoman_ | ok, so i restored my ipod using itunes, but now when i try to install rockbox, rbutil tells me: error reading partition table - possibly not an ipod |
| 18:48:56 | skfunnyboy | i have some problem installing rockbox on a Fuze V2 8GB ... its work with my Fuze V2 4GB but not with my 8GB :S |
| 18:49:06 | sudoman_ | when i look at my ipod in the disk utility, it shows only one 80 gb partition |
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| 18:50:02 | kugel | skfunnyboy: what OF version does the 8GB one have? |
| 18:50:26 | skfunnyboy | 02.03.31 |
| 18:50:52 | skfunnyboy | i downgraded from 02.03.33 |
| 18:51:25 | kugel | skfunnyboy: you need to build mkamsboot from svn, and use the manual installation method |
| 18:51:46 | skfunnyboy | how? |
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| 18:52:23 | kugel | get the latest source code from svn and compile mkamsboot |
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| 18:52:44 | kugel | you could also wait until the next mkamsboot release |
| 18:52:59 | skfunnyboy | ill try to compile it .. |
| 18:53:23 | S_a_i_n_t | skfunnyboy: There is a "hot-to" for setting up a development platform (for various OSes) on the wiki |
| 18:53:37 | S_a_i_n_t | *how-to rather |
| 18:54:38 | S_a_i_n_t | skfunnyboy: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/Main/DevelopmentGuide |
| 18:54:50 | skfunnyboy | thanks |
| 18:56:15 | sudoman_ | also, when RockboxUtility boots-up it detects my ipod correctly, but when i tell it to autodetect the type of ipod, it thinks it's an ipod 6G. |
| 18:56:49 | sudoman_ | i know it's 80 GB, it says so on the back |
| 18:57:16 | pokes | would anyone who has a toolchain all set up be willing to distribute a SVN bootloader for a clip+? |
| 18:58:17 | S_a_i_n_t | pokes: I guess so. |
| 18:58:57 | pokes | that would be awesome, thank you |
| 18:59:16 | S_a_i_n_t | I'll PM you the link to the download shortly |
| 18:59:42 | sudoman_ | ok.. so this is annoying. it seems like someone sent me an old 80GB 6g ipod instead of a 5.5G one... |
| 18:59:46 | sudoman_ | ; < |
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| 19:00:15 | S_a_i_n_t | an *old* 6G? |
| 19:00:25 | sudoman_ | yeah instead of the 160 GB |
| 19:00:29 | S_a_i_n_t | isn't that the *most* recent? |
| 19:01:18 | S_a_i_n_t | do you mean 6G (as in generation), or 6G (as in GB)? |
| 19:01:34 | sudoman_ | from the apple wikipedia page: "During the 'Let's Rock' Apple Event on September 9, 2008, the 80 GB and the thicker 160 GB model were discontinued in favor of a thin 120 GB version" |
| 19:01:40 | sudoman_ | 6th gen |
| 19:02:01 | sudoman_ | *ipod classic wikipedia page |
| 19:02:36 | sudoman_ | i guess i have to send it back... |
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| 19:09:28 | pixelma | AlexP: you missed the discovery that the target rename causes a bit of confusion in the manual because options were renamed in some include statements but not in platform files. I started working a bit on it and as usually stumble across more things. Sounds nice, doesn't it? ;) |
| 19:10:06 | AlexP | Indeed it does :) |
| 19:10:09 | pixelma | discovered only yesterday |
| 19:12:16 | skfunnyboy | S_a_i_n_t : what i need to do now .. im in debian |
| 19:12:59 | S_a_i_n_t | ENEEDMOREINFO ;) |
| 19:13:14 | skfunnyboy | ... |
| 19:13:30 | S_a_i_n_t | What is it you are wanting to do? |
| 19:13:55 | S_a_i_n_t | you have a development platform set up, and have compiled the toolchain for your device? |
| 19:14:05 | skfunnyboy | no |
| 19:14:13 | skfunnyboy | only the dev platform |
| 19:14:27 | S_a_i_n_t | you need to compile the toolchain. |
| 19:14:34 | skfunnyboy | ..how? |
| 19:14:47 | S_a_i_n_t | does the wiki not cover this? |
| 19:15:12 | skfunnyboy | dont know |
| 19:15:52 | S_a_i_n_t | Sorry, it wasn't really a question. I shall find the links for you. |
| 19:16:28 | S_a_i_n_t | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/HowToCompile |
| 19:16:33 | kugel | or http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/LinuxSimpleGuideToCompiling#Getting_Started |
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| 19:17:02 | kugel | there's too much how-tos on the same topic on our wiki |
| 19:17:28 | S_a_i_n_t | kugel: Amen. |
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| 19:32:40 | bertrik | z35, not being able to downgrade the OF is a symptom of a "new" type of AMSv2 player ("COMBO4E") |
| 19:33:53 | bertrik | you can be sure of this if you flash a test/diagnostic version of the OF and check the HwInfo diagnostic screen. The newer players show "COMBO4E" while earlier ones show "HERMON". |
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| 19:35:43 | pokes | bertrik: i have a "new" clip+ and it wouldn't upgrade to the diagnostic OF that i saw posted in the # earlier, it just didn't take as a firmware upgrade |
| 19:35:46 | * | pokes thickens the plot |
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| 19:36:24 | z35 | bertrik, I was able to downgrade from the 2.1.35 to the 2.1.32 firmware... |
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| 19:37:46 | z35 | and i didn't quite catch that last part |
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| 19:39:23 | bertrik | z35, you can enable a diagnostic menu in the original firmware by taking the OF image and renaming the last character before the dot (".") into a t |
| 19:39:35 | z35 | ahh |
| 19:40:17 | pokes | there's no difference between a stock and a diagnostic OF except the name it finds it at? |
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| 19:42:00 | bertrik | Indeed. |
| 19:43:17 | bertrik | Maybe it's also possible to enable it by editing one of the files that the OF puts in the root |
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| 19:50:10 | z35 | How do i get to this HwInfo Diag screen? I went to settings, Diagnosis, and went through the menu, and there was not a HwInfo section |
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| 19:53:14 | bertrik | z35, IIRC it's the second screen on my clip and clip+ |
| 19:54:24 | bertrik | oh my clipv1 doesn't have this screen |
| 19:54:38 | z35 | Batt is the first, then SDRAM Test... |
| 19:57:16 | bertrik | z35, you were able to install the patched OF / rockbox bootloader? |
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| 19:57:31 | z35 | yes |
| 19:57:47 | bertrik | Do you see some rockbox bootloader text when you boot it with the middle button pressed? |
| 19:58:22 | z35 | let me re-load and see, i didn't try pressing anything |
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| 20:11:43 | z35 | seems not |
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| 20:12:30 | bertrik | Then I'm not sure if the patched OF / rockbox bootloader was flashed successfully |
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| 20:14:13 | z35 | patch succeded, and if i switch between the 2.1.32 and 2.1.35 versions, the version under the system info changes, also, if I do the m30pa.bin and m30pt.bin |
| 20:14:22 | z35 | the menus change accrodingly |
| 20:15:10 | saratoga | if theres no text you probably didn't flash it |
| 20:15:57 | bertrik | Yakuza666's clip+ just got 17h17min on battery bench |
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| 20:21:57 | z35 | any reason why it wouldn't flash it? |
| 20:22:21 | z35 | even though it says it is success full |
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| 20:24:08 | bertrik | I don't know. Normally it says "firmware upgrade in progress" for about 20 seconds, then "firmware upgrade OK" (or something similar), then powers down. |
| 20:24:28 | z35 | yeah, Firmware upgrade in progress; Upgrade Complete |
| 20:24:33 | simonrvn | that's normal if that's what you're doing ;p |
| 20:25:16 | z35 | then the settings are back to default, and if it was flashed w/ .32, the version changes, if it was t, then the diag menu is avail |
| 20:25:18 | bertrik | Is there an easy way to tell the total playtime of a playlist? |
| 20:25:44 | bertrik | Are you sure you flashed the patched firmware, not the original firmware? |
| 20:25:50 | z35 | yep |
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| 20:26:44 | z35 | http://pastie.org/1057353 |
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| 20:32:04 | bertrik | z35, I'm not completely sure what the problem is, probably you need a newer mkamsboot as well |
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| 20:34:26 | z35 | is there a newer version? |
| 20:40:44 | bertrik | yes, in the subversion archive |
| 20:43:30 | n1s | bertrik: no, we don't have a way to tell the total time of a playlist |
| 20:44:10 | n1s | it would either require the database (assuming it stores track playtime) or parsing the metadata of every file |
| 20:46:16 | kugel | IIRC for some formats you even need to ask the codec |
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| 20:48:18 | Slasheri | it should be quite easy to retrieve track lenghts from the db |
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| 20:58:20 | z35 | updated to the svn mkamsboot, still no change |
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| 21:23:43 | bertrik | z35, what I find weird is that apparently the player seems to flash the patched firmware, but then there's no sign of it actually being installed |
| 21:24:12 | z35 | exactly |
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| 21:25:25 | funman | the OF version number changing prove that upgrade works (if the 'upgrade in progress' message didn't already) |
| 21:26:22 | funman | Also (up to 02.01.35 at least), the Clipv2 doesn't seem to have a newer, incompatible, hardware revision |
| 21:27:38 | funman | z35: perhaps our check to decide to dual boot or not is buggy on your clipv2. Do you want to test something and potentially brick your clipv2 ? (It could or could not be recovered by opening the case) |
| 21:28:16 | z35 | i don't mind, I am installing the cross compilers now... |
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| 21:29:56 | funman | untested diff: http://pastie.org/1057444 |
| 21:30:01 | n1s | hmm, I get "rockbox/apps/plugins/lib/pluginlib_actions.c:64:8: warning: "CONFIG_REMOTE_KEYPAD" is not defined" when test compiling for x5 with gcc 4.4.4, should the PP keep processing an #if ... #elif ... #endif cascade if it finds a match? and if so, why doesn't the other targets complain here (only iriver h100/h300 and mrobe define CONFIG_REMOTE_KEYPAD) |
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| 21:31:13 | funman | n1s: perhaps it's implementation dependant, check the C standard? |
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| 21:32:45 | n1s | funman: you mean the same version of gcc targeting different archs should have differing behaviour in the PP? |
| 21:33:23 | funman | why not? |
| 21:35:25 | funman | "6.10 Preprocessing directives" is not very explicit about it |
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| 21:36:47 | funman | this code is only inside #ifdef HAVE_REMOTE_LCD |
| 21:37:15 | n1s | right, i wonder if it isn't a bug that the iaudios don't define CONFIG_REMOTE_KEYPAD |
| 21:37:33 | funman | archos/ondio have remotes too? |
| 21:37:40 | z35 | funman, no difference... |
| 21:37:54 | n1s | yeah, i think they have one without display |
| 21:37:58 | funman | z35: did you try to power with usb and/or pressing the left button ? |
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| 21:38:22 | z35 | no |
| 21:38:38 | funman | n1s: then why are they listed in #ifdef HAVE_REMOTE_LCD ? :) |
| 21:38:55 | n1s | no idea, the gigabeat remotes don't have displays either |
| 21:39:22 | funman | it's PLA, so slapping kugel might help |
| 21:39:53 | n1s | I wonder why the actions are set according to main unit keypad for everything except the mrobe too? |
| 21:40:33 | funman | because mrobe100 & mrobe500 don't have the same main pad ? |
| 21:40:48 | pixelma | the Recordes (maybe the Player) have a non-lcd remote, the Ondios don't |
| 21:40:58 | pixelma | Recorders too |
| 21:41:20 | n1s | funman: other units with different main buttons but with the same remote are grouped |
| 21:41:21 | funman | #ifndef CONFIG_REMOTE_KEYPAD #define CONFIG_REMOTE_KEYPAD 0 # endif should work |
| 21:41:35 | funman | oh well right |
| 21:42:02 | n1s | funman: yeah, silencing the warning is easy but should the code be fixed too? |
| 21:42:30 | funman | the code is good no? |
| 21:42:57 | z35 | btw, nothing changes when I do... |
| 21:43:31 | funman | z35: i think you must run 'make -C dualboot ; make' to be sure the dualboot.S changes are compiled in |
| 21:43:58 | z35 | ahh, i just did make clean... |
| 21:44:15 | n1s | it's weird, 1) why isn't the map available for remotes without displays 2) why is the selection done inconsistently for the mrobe remote 3) why don't the other targets with remotes define CONFIG_REMOTE_KEYPAD |
| 21:44:56 | n1s | kugel: do you have any idea about this? |
| 21:45:33 | funman | 2) check for MROBE100/MROBE500 like you suggested |
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| 21:46:01 | funman | or always define CONFIG_REMOTE_KEYPAD (to 0 or something) and use the remote define |
| 21:46:06 | funman | i'm looking at 1 |
| 21:46:44 | funman | it was added like that in r13927 |
| 21:46:54 | kugel | n1s: No, but I maybe didn't understand the problem |
| 21:46:55 | funman | perhaps the archos remotes has never been used in PLA ? |
| 21:47:29 | pixelma | I'm not sure - although it's the same remote and we could support it on both M:Robes, I'm for some reasons not sure it is supported on the M:Robe 100 |
| 21:47:41 | kugel | but I assume all targets with a remote (with or without lcd) should have CONFIG_REMOTE_KEYPAD |
| 21:48:33 | n1s | that would make sense |
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| 21:49:00 | z35 | recompiled and still no changes... |
| 21:49:46 | funman | h100/h300 remote keyapds are different |
| 21:50:10 | n1s | funman: yeah, but they are usable with both devices |
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| 21:50:17 | funman | z35: what's the serial number on the back? |
| 21:50:29 | funman | on the bottom* |
| 21:51:44 | n1s | pixelma: do you know what kinds of iaudio remotes there are? |
| 21:51:57 | pixelma | just one |
| 21:52:19 | n1s | the same for all 3? |
| 21:52:28 | pixelma | yes |
| 21:53:15 | n1s | nice, I'll just define CONFIG_REMOTE_KEYPAD to X5_REMOTE (which is a remote type already present in config.h btw) then |
| 21:53:49 | n1s | or should it be renamed? |
| 21:54:11 | pixelma | maybe IAUDIO_REMOTE would be less confusing? |
| 21:54:17 | z35 | BI0906BLRK |
| 21:54:22 | n1s | pixelma: ok |
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| 21:59:20 | funman | z35: http://pastie.org/1057491 , it should boot OF only if you plug USB or if you lock the hold button |
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| 22:01:01 | pixelma | n1s: there are remotes with black or grey casing out there, that's the only difference. The grey ones were sold for the M3 and the black for the X5. Fun fact is that the offers I watched for these remotes all stated explicitly they wouldn't work on the M5, I know they do because I tried with amiconns remote. It made me a bit curious if perhaps the OF has some problems with it, maybe because of the same colour depth - not curious enough to install |
| 22:01:01 | pixelma | the OF again or the experimental dual boot loader |
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| 22:01:43 | pixelma | some colour depth of main and remote display with the M5 |
| 22:01:56 | n1s | pixelma: ah |
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| 22:02:23 | skfunnyboy | ...i typed sudo ./rockboxdev.sh in my rockbox dev os and the terminal dosent stop to send text like that : http://i25.tinypic.com/28mjtyr.png ...is it normal ?? |
| 22:02:39 | n1s | btw, just defining CONFIG_REMOTE_KEYPAD doesn't work, because of the logo plugin, sigh |
| 22:02:41 | sudoman | yes. |
| 22:02:52 | sudoman | skfunnyboy: yes, it's compiler output |
| 22:03:04 | skfunnyboy | i waited for 30 minutes.. . |
| 22:03:17 | n1s | skfunnyboy: it takes a while to build toolchains |
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| 22:03:27 | sudoman | it can take a while, especially on slower machines. it took my ppc g4 a while |
| 22:03:40 | saratoga | buy a faster computer if you don't like yours being slow |
| 22:04:09 | sudoman | skfunnyboy: if it stops and you get a new command-line prompt and there are no errors above, then it probably worked. ; ) |
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| 22:04:45 | skfunnyboy | sudoman: ok...but how many time in total ? |
| 22:05:06 | sudoman | do you mean how long will it take? i don't know. |
| 22:05:11 | skfunnyboy | ok |
| 22:05:26 | n1s | pixelma: so i could just copy the m3 keymap to the remote keymap for the logo plugin? |
| 22:05:27 | skfunnyboy | (and sorry for my english..im french :P) |
| 22:05:44 | sudoman | if you need to pause it for a bit, you can type ctrl-Z and then start it up again by typing fg and enter. though if you close the window, it will stop. |
| 22:06:07 | skfunnyboy | its on a virtual pc so.. |
| 22:06:18 | skfunnyboy | ill wait,... |
| 22:06:23 | pixelma | n1s: yes, mapping is the same for all other things now |
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| 22:07:40 | pixelma | it's a pity that no plugin defines some mappings for the Iaudio remote, not even a "quit" like there is for the H100/H300 remote |
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| 22:11:08 | z35 | funman, nothing... |
| 22:11:20 | z35 | (had to remove the last line in the patch but..) |
| 22:12:22 | funman | z35: so which booting combinations did you try ? |
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| 22:12:53 | z35 | normal, left pressed, usb, and select |
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| 22:13:10 | z35 | all do OF |
| 22:13:37 | funman | try this then: power normally and as fast as you can, engage the hold switch |
| 22:14:12 | z35 | saw rockbox |
| 22:14:22 | z35 | and seems to be running |
| 22:14:30 | z35 | after leaving hold |
| 22:14:58 | funman | ok, do the buttons work normally? (especially left) |
| 22:15:42 | z35 | yep |
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| 22:20:11 | funman | z35: can you try: revert to svn (svn checkout . -R), and modify the delay in dualboot.S at line 200 |
| 22:20:42 | CIA-6 | New commit by nls (r27533): Define CONFIG_REMOTE_KEYPAD for iaudio x5/m5 and add a keymap for that remote to the logo plugin. Fixes a warning when building with gcc 4.4.4. |
| 22:20:47 | funman | try to make it #10 or #50 and see if that helps (don't forget to run make -C dualboot/; make) |
| 22:22:07 | funman | n1s: wasn't it possible to use PLA ? |
| 22:22:17 | z35 | command doesn't work |
| 22:22:18 | n1s | funman: i have no ides |
| 22:22:22 | n1s | idea |
| 22:22:27 | funman | z35: what's the problem ? |
| 22:22:28 | CIA-6 | r27533 build result: All green |
| 22:22:39 | sudoman | what about the / there? |
| 22:22:53 | funman | dualboot/ is a directory |
| 22:22:59 | sudoman | oh ; ) |
| 22:23:21 | z35 | Subcommand 'checkout' doesn't accept option '-R [−−recursive]' |
| 22:23:48 | funman | z35: oops it's 'revert' not 'checkout' (sorry, i don't use svn very often) |
| 22:29:31 | pixelma | funman: logo doesn't use PLA yet and I'm not sure if it would be suitable (there are left/right and up/down to adjust speed for the x and y axis and I believe a button for "still", not sure and "exit". Maybe it could work but it's not always best to use PLA, it's also not the scope of the patch to change the plugin around |
| 22:30:50 | z35 | changed the #5 to #10 and it doesn't boot.. |
| 22:30:58 | z35 | though flash went success |
| 22:31:05 | z35 | fully |
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| 22:32:05 | funman | try forcing power off (keep pressing power for 20s or so) |
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| 22:32:41 | funman | it could be a random crash |
| 22:32:52 | n1s | yay, all coldfire targets now build fine without warnings with gcc 4.4.4 |
| 22:33:10 | funman | after keeping power off pressed try again to power up normally, if it still doesn't work, next time power up by plugging USB |
| 22:33:22 | funman | n1s: do they boot though? |
| 22:33:42 | n1s | funman: the h300 does, i don't have any other to test on |
| 22:34:17 | n1s | although i've not tested anything but music playback yet, i should test some other features |
| 22:34:24 | skfunnyboy_ | can anyone tell me how to compile mkamsboot ^^ |
| 22:34:26 | skfunnyboy_ | *?? |
| 22:34:58 | funman | skfunnyboy_: the usual way. what do you want to achieve? |
| 22:36:15 | skfunnyboy_ | ..wait |
| 22:36:18 | skfunnyboy_ | i think i get it |
| 22:36:37 | z35 | #10, #50 did not work |
| 22:37:23 | funman | bertrik: do you have an idea? |
| 22:37:42 | z35 | hrm, one sec |
| 22:37:50 | bertrik | no |
| 22:38:41 | z35 | i might have done somethign dumb |
| 22:39:31 | z35 | arm-elf-gcc: Command not found ... |
| 22:40:06 | funman | z35: hm right, now we only install arm-elf-eabi-gcc by default |
| 22:40:07 | z35 | should i change it to arm-elf-eabi-gcc |
| 22:40:12 | funman | yes |
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| 22:50:53 | z35 | alright, make -C dualboot && make && cp ... between changing form #5, #10, and #50, none seemed to change |
| 22:53:32 | funman | http://pastie.org/1057595 ? |
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| 22:54:24 | z35 | yeah, it loks that #5 i was change to 10, 20 |
| 22:55:17 | z35 | i see, one sec |
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| 22:55:33 | z35 | and leave the orig at #5? |
| 22:56:53 | funman | yes |
| 22:56:59 | funman | (you can try with higher delays though) |
| 22:59:41 | z35 | rockbox should load on normal boot, right?, so I can change both delays to 5,10, 10,10 50,10 5,50.... |
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| 23:00:21 | funman | yes, OF should only boot if left button is pressed or USB is plugged |
| 23:00:32 | funman | so the problem is it believes that left button is pushed |
| 23:04:30 | skfunnyboy_ | i cannot put the rockbox patched formware on my fuze v2 |
| 23:04:34 | skfunnyboy_ | *firmware |
| 23:05:28 | funman | skfunnyboy_: funman/fuzpa.bin.bz2">http://jones.videolan.org/~videolan/funman/fuzpa.bin.bz2 < here is a patched OF |
| 23:05:40 | skfunnyboy_ | version^ |
| 23:05:41 | skfunnyboy_ | *? |
| 23:07:12 | skfunnyboy_ | ??? |
| 23:07:24 | funman | 2.3.33 |
| 23:07:31 | skfunnyboy_ | THANKS !!!!! :D |
| 23:07:41 | skfunnyboy_ | i searched this all the day !! |
| 23:07:44 | n1s | amiconn: do you know if the patch for coldfire gcc on cygwin is needed in newer versions? |
| 23:07:59 | n1s | (the one for amd64 isn't) |
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| 23:10:36 | funman | n1s: perhaps m68040 didn't build properly? |
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| 23:11:32 | z35 | tried them, nothing changed... |
| 23:13:01 | funman | z35: i'm out of idea now, you can take a look at the (working) button code in firmware/target/arm/as3525/sansa-clipv2/button-clip.c |
| 23:13:29 | n1s | funman: yeah, it just removes that cpu's multilibs but is that still needed or has it been fixed? |
| 23:14:36 | n1s | i guess the easy way to test that is for someone on cygwin to try building gcc4.4.4 but that takes forever on cygwin :/ |
| 23:15:17 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r27534): Theme Editor: Added interface for project export, exporting files to zip is still todo |
| 23:15:29 | funman | n1s: the easy way is to let people using cygwin do this work |
| 23:15:47 | * | n1s looks around for a guinea pig with cygwin :) |
| 23:15:49 | funman | i see the patch was also used (needed?) on FreeBSD/Darwin |
| 23:16:12 | n1s | yes but i'd guess those are even rarer beasts |
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| 23:16:51 | CIA-6 | r27534 build result: All green |
| 23:16:55 | n1s | in fact it seems any non-linux environment used for building needed it |
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| 23:18:00 | n1s | of course, test building the toolchain on cygwin is probably a good idea anyway |
| 23:19:00 | funman | i can't imagine how building anything on cygwin would be a good idea, but if you like that kind of things.. |
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| 23:20:04 | n1s | i mean that it would be bad to find out the toolchain doesn't build on cygwin *after* we switch |
| 23:20:20 | n1s | i don't have a cygwin setup |
| 23:20:26 | funman | it would be bad only if someone builds the toolchain on cygwin |
| 23:20:45 | funman | so the problem reduces to: "will amiconn do coldfire dev on cygwin?" |
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| 23:20:52 | n1s | we have devs using cygin, don't we? |
| 23:21:23 | funman | i hope not much |
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| 23:22:57 | funman | i only know of amiconn and perhaps pixelma doing target development on cygwin |
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| 23:24:46 | amiconn | I don't use it regularly, but I do use it for voice building (via sapi), and sometimes for testing |
| 23:25:17 | n1s | amiconn: could you test build a new toolchain? |
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| 23:28:43 | Spaceghost | hello |
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| 23:33:44 | Spaceghost | any player with RK2706 Rockchip that can be rockboxed? |
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| 23:34:14 | Spaceghost | that is a good chip? what is your opinion? |
| 23:35:11 | n1s | none of the devices supported by rockbox has a rockchip |
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| 23:36:10 | Spaceghost | because the most of them are low quality? generic players of chinese brands? |
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| 23:40:31 | n1s | mostly because no one made a port for one, now why no one has made a port may be because of those reasons or others |
| 23:40:40 | bertrik | We have a page on rockchip on our wiki http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/Rockchip27xx |
| 23:40:55 | bertrik | Doesn't look too bad actually |
| 23:43:02 | bertrik | We're not fundamentally opposed to players with this chip or anything like that, I guess there's hardly one with a player with this chip in it and enough motivation to start/investigate a port. |
| 23:48:19 | Spaceghost | players that are able to reproduce video with rockbox, can play video files. rmvb? |
| 23:49:41 | bertrik | Rockbox only plays mpeg-1 and mpeg-2 video files |
| 23:50:48 | Spaceghost | xvid neither, no? it is mpeg-4? |
| 23:50:49 | Spaceghost | ok, thanks |
| 23:51:41 | Spaceghost | I found the topic about that chip, and said some other reasons for not work on that chip: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?action=printpage;topic=10428.0 |
| 23:54:52 | n1s | there appears to be different variants of rockchip with entirely different cpu cores according to that, anyway, ports are made to players not so much to SoC's |
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