| 00:00:10 | funman | (still needs to link mkamsboot-1.4 manually) |
| 00:00:30 | wodz | what are the conditions to move target to unstable (from unusable?) |
| 00:00:54 | funman | wodz: ok for daily use |
| 00:01:36 | wodz | is manual for unstable target mandatory? |
| 00:01:44 | funman | nope |
| 00:02:13 | wodz | So I think HD200 is unstable then |
| 00:02:14 | funman | rbutil support / manual is only for stable afaik |
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| 00:03:05 | kugel | preglow: I'm lucky that these phones run on ARM cpus, otherwise I'd have a bit of a problem with threads ;) |
| 00:03:43 | wodz | are there smartphone not based on ARM on the market? |
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| 00:03:56 | stripwax | kugel - got a link? :) |
| 00:04:05 | kugel | stripwax: link to? |
| 00:04:07 | * | funman wants the .apk |
| 00:04:09 | * | amiconn doubts that |
| 00:04:10 | * | stripwax does too |
| 00:04:56 | stripwax | apk that is .. |
| 00:05:22 | B4gder | wodz: not with any marketshare to mention |
| 00:05:39 | B4gder | there are most likely MIPS ones in China, I have do doubts |
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| 00:05:58 | kugel | http://www.alice-dsl.net/simonemartitz/rockbox/rockbox.zip |
| 00:06:08 | kugel | the codecs need to go under /sdcard/rockbox/codecs |
| 00:07:03 | preglow | kugel: i don't really see how you're not already having trouble with threads, unless you're running some kind of thin thread implementation inside of rockbox itself |
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| 00:08:01 | kugel | yea, that's exactly what I do |
| 00:09:05 | FlynDice | kugel: Big congrats! Chimes in with .apk request.... |
| 00:09:23 | stripwax | FlynDice - link is above |
| 00:09:28 | kugel | FlynDice: thanks :) |
| 00:09:39 | kugel | remember you need a 320x480 device |
| 00:09:43 | * | preglow mumbles about rockbox and preemptive threads |
| 00:10:20 | wodz | I've written shell script to visualize battery_bench.txt file(s). Anyone interested? |
| 00:10:48 | kugel | wodz: visualize how? there's a script on the wiki to feed it to gnu plot IIRC |
| 00:11:00 | * | funman can't use rockbox o: |
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| 00:11:16 | preglow | kugel: then why is it so good the chip is arm? sounds like any of our supported cpus would work equally good |
| 00:11:56 | kugel | yea, they could've been cf or sh too, but I know arm better :) |
| 00:13:05 | funman | oh right it's a touchscren target :) |
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| 00:14:35 | wodz | kugel: Maybe I reinvented the wheel but I couldn't find any 'parser' for battery_bench.txt on the wiki |
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| 00:15:54 | stripwax | wodz - it might be on the CodecPerformanceComparison wiki page |
| 00:16:02 | stripwax | uh, no, wait. scratch that. |
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| 00:16:43 | * | stripwax remembers seeing one but can't remember exactly where |
| 00:17:54 | kugel | wodz: SansaRuntime has a command line for c&p |
| 00:18:06 | CIA-6 | New commit by Buschel (r27617): Maintenance and minor speedup of libwmapro. Comment unused arrays, fix comment, remove tabs and introduce WMAPRO_FRACT to wma.h to remove magic ... |
| 00:18:58 | stripwax | Buschel - what's the difference between what the vector code in wmapro is doing and XNPROD / XPROD ? |
| 00:19:12 | stripwax | (also, what's the difference between MULT31 and fixmul31 , etc ..?) |
| 00:19:38 | stripwax | would be cool to standardise implementations in codeclib, rather than having competing asm, if possible |
| 00:20:03 | CIA-6 | r27617 build result: All green |
| 00:20:29 | domonoky | kugel: congratulations for sound on Android ! :-) |
| 00:20:39 | kugel | thank you! :) |
| 00:20:51 | * | stripwax is still downloading the zip |
| 00:21:07 | Buschel | stripwax: MULT31 drops 1 bit precision on ARM, fixmul31 does not |
| 00:21:20 | Buschel | stripwax: MULT31 is faster though... (on ARM) |
| 00:21:23 | wodz | kugel: This one I know |
| 00:21:34 | stripwax | Buschel - true, and true. should we standardise? |
| 00:22:17 | stripwax | I think the implementation of MULT31 is not because we want to lose 1 bit precision, but because it is faster and that 1 bit doesn't make perceptible difference given its (probably limited) usage in initial/final steps only |
| 00:22:40 | Buschel | stripwax: depends on the demands of the codec... full precision is correct if a loss of 1 bit will impact the output. this might not happen to all codecs (e.g. depends on the size of the fract part) |
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| 00:24:36 | B4gder | http://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2010/07/30/the-rockbox-app-part-ii/ :-) |
| 00:25:58 | funman | B4gder: you extracted the tgz? |
| 00:26:03 | B4gder | yes |
| 00:26:55 | funman | hm there's a one hour delay before it appears on download.rockbox.org right? |
| 00:27:12 | stripwax | kugel - "no .rockbox directory, installation incomplete" ? |
| 00:27:16 | B4gder | funman: yes |
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| 00:28:35 | stripwax | Buschel - ah, true. so maybe we could tweak a codec to use MULT31 instead of fixmul31 but only if we deem it's a safe optimsation. makes sense. |
| 00:29:20 | kugel | stripwax: you have /sdcard/rockbox? |
| 00:29:48 | kugel | ah, well, just ignore that |
| 00:30:15 | stripwax | i do (containing just codecs dir). but guessing the plugins need to come from somewhere too; not in zip unless I missed them somehow! |
| 00:30:28 | kugel | no plugins yet |
| 00:30:58 | funman | the theme especially |
| 00:31:07 | kugel | no theme yet |
| 00:31:08 | kugel | :p |
| 00:31:20 | Buschel | stripwax: e.g. libwmapro shows different results as soon as you use the MULT31 implementation. and it is only minor faster (about another +1%) |
| 00:31:34 | stripwax | Buschel - worth knowing, thanks! |
| 00:31:56 | stripwax | kugel - ah, it uses the touchscreen grid thingy? |
| 00:32:17 | kugel | yea |
| 00:32:25 | Buschel | good night! |
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| 00:32:41 | kugel | absolute mode would be unusable with sysfont anyway |
| 00:33:07 | stripwax | true. it seems to only be response if I have my keyboard open (which forces it into landscape mode, which it doesn't seem to support) |
| 00:33:26 | FlynDice | kugel: I've got the menu displaying fine on my evo which has a different size screen than you mentioned I beleive. Still trying to figure out the touch nav.... |
| 00:34:24 | funman | middle top = up, middle down = bottom, middle center = play |
| 00:35:23 | funman | kugel: where's your git repo ? |
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| 00:37:03 | kugel | funman: kugel-rb.git">http://repo.or.cz/w/kugel-rb.git |
| 00:38:26 | funman | should i track gsoc-android-botloader ? |
| 00:38:53 | kugel | you can, but it doesn't have the java bits (and I'm unsure how/where to add those) |
| 00:41:07 | FlynDice | kugel, I can see the rockbox screen as a smaller portion of my entire screen, so perhaps as long as the device screen is larger than 320 x480 it may be ok? |
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| 00:42:12 | kugel | FlynDice: it looks like :) I don't know what's supposed to happen :) |
| 00:42:34 | FlynDice | just lettin you know what I see |
| 00:45:45 | funman | kugel: /android ? |
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| 00:49:04 | kugel | funman: I hope I can get it in the target tree, but it looks like that would have some disadvantages |
| 00:49:35 | funman | isn't it more 'packaging code' than target code? |
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| 00:50:23 | FlynDice | kugel: does it search for music files just like on a regular device? |
| 00:50:46 | kugel | FlynDice: I haven't tested |
| 00:51:00 | stripwax | database seems to be initialising, which is nice |
| 00:51:11 | FlynDice | where did you play your music file from then? |
| 00:51:25 | kugel | FlynDice: filebrowser |
| 00:51:29 | FlynDice | ok |
| 00:51:41 | kugel | stripwax: it does? it stays at "0 found" here |
| 00:52:06 | stripwax | oh, hm, so it does. |
| 00:52:33 | JdGordon | kugel: get dlopen working? |
| 00:52:46 | kugel | JdGordon: checked mails? :) |
| 00:52:51 | stripwax | hah, music. working. awesome! |
| 00:52:58 | JdGordon | just opened it :) |
| 00:52:59 | JdGordon | congrats |
| 00:53:21 | JdGordon | what was the problem? |
| 00:53:41 | stripwax | crashes badly if i turn my g1 sideways though. |
| 00:53:56 | kugel | JdGordon: permissions :) |
| 00:54:09 | JdGordon | which in particular? |
| 00:54:11 | * | FlynDice found directory with all the alarms and managed to play them but can't figure out how to stop... ;) |
| 00:54:21 | * | stripwax did exactly the same |
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| 00:54:53 | stripwax | kugel - sometimes it just refuses to recognise touchscreen controls, expected at this point? seems to lock up and become unresponsive. |
| 00:55:46 | funman | JdGordon: noexec on SD card |
| 00:55:46 | kugel | that's not expected no, it doesn't happen here |
| 00:56:06 | * | JdGordon is king :) |
| 00:56:06 | funman | kugel: how can i help? |
| 00:56:07 | kugel | I didn't know you need +x when doing dlopen() |
| 00:56:27 | JdGordon | haha, file not android permisions? :) |
| 00:56:34 | kugel | yes |
| 00:56:35 | JdGordon | anyway good to see it working |
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| 00:57:20 | stripwax | kugel - ah, seems it's not just touchscreen unresponsive, it locked up while playing too. any debug log I can give you to help out? |
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| 00:58:33 | kugel | stripwax: maybe later :) most of the current code is a hack, to get music playing quickly. I'll do it more properly later and see if there's still problems then |
| 00:58:50 | stripwax | :) no worries; congrats and great progress! |
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| 01:05:13 | kugel | do you guys also experience that the bottom 2/3 of the screen are black? |
| 01:06:08 | JdGordon | how much java did you need to write? |
| 01:06:46 | kugel | <400 lines |
| 01:07:11 | JdGordon | just enough to load the binary? |
| 01:07:35 | kugel | no, "drivers" too |
| 01:08:06 | kugel | you cannot access most api's in native code, you need to go through the jni to java to access them |
| 01:08:15 | funman | kugel: yes the bottom was black but that looked normal? |
| 01:08:41 | kugel | well, no |
| 01:08:49 | kugel | I don't know why that is though |
| 01:09:15 | funman | for me, the whole background was black |
| 01:09:20 | kugel | I only see it in long lists, when 2/3 are cut off |
| 01:10:00 | FlynDice | I see that but thought it was a screen size issue |
| 01:10:03 | JdGordon | I'm possibly being stupid and thinking too far ahead,but could that act as a mini rbutil also? check for and download updates, upload scrobble log, gen voice files? |
| 01:10:32 | JdGordon | hmm, andoird has TTS... I wonder if we could hook straight into it! |
| 01:10:33 | stripwax | JdGordon - woah there! |
| 01:11:20 | kugel | JdGordon: most probably |
| 01:11:41 | JdGordon | \o/ |
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| 01:15:56 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r27618): mkamsboot: don't boot OF if USB is plugged (AMSv1 only) |
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| 01:16:52 | kugel | JdGordon: some one needs to do the work of course |
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| 01:17:47 | CIA-6 | r27618 build result: All green |
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| 01:22:06 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r27619): Tag release v2 of AMSv1 bootloaders and release v3 of AMSv2 bootloaders |
| 01:22:21 | funman | most confusing tag ever :) |
| 01:23:18 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r27620): Tag release 1.4 of mkamsboot |
| 01:23:25 | * | funman notices he forgot to tag mkamsboot 1.3 |
| 01:23:45 | FlynDice | it wasn't obvious? |
| 01:24:18 | funman | FlynDice: what? |
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| 01:26:54 | FlynDice | Why I was sure v1 or v2 of mkamsboot1.3 would have completely stood out against the others.... lame humor I 'll now go back to experimenting ;) |
| 01:30:24 | funman | ranma_: what's the PID of c200v2 in MTP mode? |
| 01:34:50 | funman | nvm, it's always MSC PID - 1 on other Sansas |
| 01:35:45 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r27621): rbutil: c200v2 |
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| 01:37:10 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r27622): c200v2: mark as unstable |
| 01:37:15 | CIA-6 | r27621 build result: All green |
| 01:39:06 | CIA-6 | r27622 build result: All green |
| 01:39:49 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r27623): Front page: move c200v2 to unstable ... |
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| 01:43:54 | funman | i can't find a downloadable OF for m200v4 on sandisk forums |
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| 02:26:58 | Tenniru | hey, I'm having a problem initializing the database |
| 02:27:12 | Tenniru | basically, it takes a long time and the battery always runs out before it finishes |
| 02:27:28 | Tenniru | and I can't figure out how to charge my iPod without having it go into the "do not/ready to disconnect" screen |
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| 02:49:13 | JdGordon| | Tenniru: hold select when plugging in usb |
| 02:49:28 | JdGordon| | it sounds like you have a file which the database cant read |
| 02:49:43 | Tenniru | hmm |
| 02:49:48 | Tenniru | is there a way to find out what that file is? |
| 02:51:02 | JdGordon| | yes, but its not fun. delete half your tracks untill it works again, then add half the last deleted ones back in |
| 02:51:07 | JdGordon| | rinse, repeate |
| 02:51:28 | Tenniru | hooray |
| 02:51:56 | Tenniru | oh, I know I have some protected iTunes files in here somewhere |
| 02:52:04 | JdGordon| | that could be it |
| 02:52:11 | Tenniru | I know they won't play on rockbox, but would that also get in the way of reading id3 tags? |
| 02:53:49 | Tenniru | well, i'll get rid of those and see what happens |
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| 02:54:04 | Tenniru | by the way, select is the center button, right? |
| 02:58:29 | JdGordon| | yes |
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| 04:03:25 | ninjapirate89 | anybody here? i have a quick question |
| 04:04:34 | krazykit | ninjapirate89, just ask |
| 04:04:59 | ninjapirate89 | if i put rockbox on my ipod and decide i don't like it, is it reversible? |
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| 04:06:35 | ninjapirate89 | k thanks |
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| 09:37:26 | amiconn | Bagder: The binsize table has a shortcoming on mobile browsers (N900, most probably others): You cannot get to the details since there is no hover |
| 09:38:16 | crwl | n900 browser actually has hover, but most other mobile browsers probably don't |
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| 09:40:53 | amiconn | crwl: While the built-in browser does have hover, it doesn't work in the binsize table (the details popup doesn't appear) |
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| 10:04:47 | GodEater | anyone know how to fix a "White screen of death" on an ipod Nano 2G? |
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| 10:38:40 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r27625): Theme Editor: Made auto-complete functional and enabled it by default. Added a small subset of the available tags to the tagdb file, filling it out ... |
| 10:39:28 | bieber | I think I've got auto-complete working in the Theme Editor, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out that there's a bug or two hiding in it. If anyone wants to test it out, it'd be much appreciated |
| 10:40:30 | CIA-6 | r27625 build result: All green |
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| 11:00:43 | mitk | bieber: After typing % it shows only tags starting with F,i,I,V and w. doesn't show for example x,a,p. Or maybe I'm doing something wrong? Also shouldn't completion be case sensitive? I mean when you type %i you can see tags starting with %i and %I |
| 11:01:20 | bug2000 | Weird. I just created a new firmware for my sansa clip, and yet, it still automatically boots the OF when pluggin to SUB. |
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| 11:14:18 | mitk | bug2000: Do you mean you have changed bootloader? |
| 11:14:30 | CIA-6 | New commit by nls (r27626): libwmapro: fix comment for coldfire fixmul31. |
| 11:15:12 | bug2000 | mitk: That and the makeboot. |
| 11:16:04 | CIA-6 | r27626 build result: All green |
| 11:17:42 | mitk | bug2000: you mean mkamsboot? |
| 11:18:26 | bug2000 | Erm ya. |
| 11:18:28 | bug2000 | That is v1.4 |
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| 11:18:42 | bug2000 | The boot loader was just downloaded so I believe it's 2. but I don't know how to make sure. |
| 11:24:35 | mitk | bug2000: On clip+ you can see bootloader version when rockbox is booting. Just before rockbox version and it is displayed very short. I believe you can see it on clip also. |
| 11:25:49 | bug2000 | O_O bootver 1.0 |
| 11:26:36 | bug2000 | http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/sandisk-sansa/clip/ - So this isn't up to date. |
| 11:32:57 | S_a_i_n_t | Themers/Those interested in skin tags: Just a quick note...has anyone tried setting a vulue to the %pE(X) (== Track ends in <X> seconds, 10 is default) tag higher than 10? For me (current SVN) "%pE(20) is turning "true" at -3:20 (3 minutes 20 seconds remaining). |
| 11:33:22 | S_a_i_n_t | Whereas %pE(10) goes "true" at the correct time. |
| 11:33:51 | S_a_i_n_t | If someone could confirm this it would be great, I don;t have a lot of time to spare presently. |
| 11:34:20 | S_a_i_n_t | Errr...bah! s/vulue/value/ |
| 11:39:44 | S_a_i_n_t | GodEater: Ping? |
| 11:39:47 | S_a_i_n_t | <GodEater> anyone know how to fix a "White screen of death" on an ipod Nano 2G? |
| 11:39:58 | S_a_i_n_t | ==Hard Reset |
| 11:40:36 | S_a_i_n_t | "Hold Menu+Play until the problem goes away!" |
| 11:41:06 | n1s | Buchsel: the coldfire fixmul31 and the windowing loop (which btw appears identical to the codeclib XNPROD31) all lose some precision, the fixmul always loses the lsb and the windowing loop accumulates 2 multiplies into the 40 bit acc which is then truncated to 32 bits so it will lose only 1/2 bit of precision (if one can say that) |
| 11:43:36 | S_a_i_n_t | GodEater: If it is a "true" Nano2G WSoD, then after it resets there is a pretty good chance that all data on the device will be lost, you'll get a prompt with "Please restore your iPod using iTunes". |
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| 11:44:25 | n1s | the reason for this is that the emac in fractional mode shifts the 32 bit result up one bit in the acc so it really produces (long long)x*y>>31&0xfffffffe |
| 11:44:39 | S_a_i_n_t | Sounds like said Nano2G is running quite an old revision, I have not seen a WSoD for a looooong time on my Nano2Gs |
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| 12:35:15 | mitk | S_a_i_n_t: Tried on Fuze Sim. %pE is working as expected, %pE(10) goes true at -1:40, %pE(20) at -3:20, %pE(30) at -5:00. |
| 12:36:24 | GodEater | S_a_i_n_t: that doesn't work - in fact, the screen appears to have *completely* died now - it's not displaying anything at all now. |
| 12:43:10 | pixelma | mitk: sounds like %pE is in 10 seconds steps? I would have expected seconds |
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| 12:46:38 | mitk | pixelma: 10 seconds is default when you don't pass any parameter. Why you mention 10 seconds steps? I can't see it in my test result. |
| 12:47:32 | mitk | pixelma: oh sorry, you are right |
| 12:47:46 | pixelma | I would have expected %pE(10) to be true at -10 seconds, not 1:40 (minutes) which is 100 seconds, so 10x10 |
| 12:48:23 | mitk | pixelma: apologized already :) |
| 12:49:05 | pixelma | sorry, I had already started typing the answer |
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| 13:10:10 | mitk | pixelma: Same with %pS. I have made patch for both. Put it on FS or just pastebin somewhere? |
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| 14:14:02 | GodEater | I don't have small enough fingers to use rockbox on my phone |
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| 14:28:16 | CIA-6 | New commit by funman (r27627): AMSv1: Don't modify MPMC_DYNAMIC_CONTROL ... |
| 14:28:17 | * | GodEater can now confirm music working via RaaA on his Nexus 1 |
| 14:30:11 | CIA-6 | r27627 build result: All green |
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| 14:31:38 | GodEater | it's bloody tricky using that grid system when the screen is the wrong resolution |
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| 14:58:43 | preglow | rockbox needs a bit of work on the touchscreen front, heh |
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| 15:01:21 | kugel | preglow: it needs a lot of work *everywhere* when it comes to touchscreens |
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| 15:16:05 | evilnick_B | Just a thought: Should the Android port be added to Unusable Ports on the frontpage now that we have sound? |
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| 15:18:13 | * | GodEater was thinking the same |
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| 15:22:05 | GodEater | I'm trying to work out what the wording should bwe |
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| 15:25:54 | CIA-6 | New commit by bryan (r27628): Updated unusuable ports to include Android |
| 15:26:17 | GodEater | there's my effort at it - we'll see what the swedes think :) |
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| 15:29:57 | kugel | oh, RaaA hogs the cpu quite a bit! |
| 15:30:08 | kugel | 96% when I looked a few minutes ago |
| 15:30:18 | GodEater | I did think my phone got a bit warm :) |
| 15:30:33 | kugel | luckily I already cooked something up that reduces it to <30% when playing music and <=3% when idle |
| 15:30:43 | GodEater | \o/ |
| 15:30:57 | kugel | my core_sleep() wasn't playing well |
| 15:31:22 | kugel | because I didn't grasp what Object.wait does |
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| 15:40:34 | * | GodEater pokes at Zagor or Bagder |
| 15:41:28 | mitk | pixelma: Fixed track_starting/ending problem - FS #11507. Can you take a look at it and eventually commit? |
| 15:45:42 | kugel | mitk: don't these tags accept fractionals? |
| 15:46:33 | mitk | kugel: you mean fractions of seconds? |
| 15:46:36 | kugel | yes |
| 15:47:43 | mitk | kugel: There is no need to use fractions of seconds for this tags IMHO. |
| 15:48:07 | kugel | it seems wrong to me that token->value.i doesn't already hold the correct value. multiplying with 100 (or 1000 or whatever) makes the fractions impossble |
| 15:48:47 | kugel | IIUC it should be like 250 for 2.5s (check the DECIMAL stuff in the parser) |
| 15:49:15 | kugel | unless I'm completely wrong that is :) |
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| 15:50:35 | mitk | kugel: It's working as expected with my fix, I tested it on sim |
| 15:51:41 | mitk | kugel: And it's not my design. I'm fixing it a little only |
| 15:52:24 | kugel | I think jdgordon/bieber should have a look at it |
| 15:52:29 | kugel | it's their design :) |
| 15:53:05 | mitk | kugel: Yes. Have to go now, bye |
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| 16:26:27 | kugel | ohhh, stupid typo! |
| 16:27:13 | kugel | I found why the bottom 2/3 of the screen are black |
| 16:28:49 | kugel | it looked suspicously squarish, and indeed I was passing LCD_WIDTH twice instead of LCD_HEIGHT :) |
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| 17:05:42 | pixelma | I wonder about http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?action=recent;start=0 together with the big green RAM usage delta, just curious |
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| 17:11:49 | pixelma | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=25174.msg169978#msg169978 I mean (the other will be outdated as soon as someone posts something again) |
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| 17:51:58 | LambdaCalculus37 | kugel: Ping |
| 17:52:10 | kugel | LambdaCalculus37: pong |
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| 17:53:39 | LambdaCalculus37 | kugel: Question about the Android port: is there a project file for an IDE like, say, Eclipse, or would I have to do that myself? |
| 17:54:00 | kugel | LambdaCalculus37: I have an eclipse project for the java part |
| 17:54:25 | kugel | want to have itß |
| 17:54:27 | kugel | ? |
| 17:54:38 | LambdaCalculus37 | kugel: Sure. |
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| 17:55:45 | LambdaCalculus37 | kugel: PM for email addy. |
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| 17:59:15 | kugel | LambdaCalculus37: www.alice-dsl.net/simonemartitz/rockbox/RaaA-java-eclpise.zip |
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| 18:00:47 | LambdaCalculus37 | kugel: Thanks! I'll set it up tonight. |
| 18:01:17 | LambdaCalculus37 | kugel: This is for Android 2.x versions, correct? |
| 18:01:27 | kugel | should work on 1.x too |
| 18:02:09 | LambdaCalculus37 | kugel: I'll see if it works on 1.x as well. |
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| 18:08:04 | LambdaCalculus37 | kugel: I have a crazy idea. Let's see if RaaA will compile and run on Android x86. :) |
| 18:12:22 | * | TheSeven is slightly confused by r26191 |
| 18:13:51 | TheSeven | if i have "int foo[10];", what the hell is "&foo"? |
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| 18:18:03 | kugel | LambdaCalculus37: yea, no it won't :) |
| 18:18:44 | LambdaCalculus37 | kugel: Ahh well. :) |
| 18:20:02 | kugel | TheSeven: the same as foo and &foo[0] |
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| 18:20:41 | TheSeven | hm. absolutely nonsense. |
| 18:20:51 | TheSeven | that should be a compile-time error, if anything. |
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| 19:02:01 | old | I have an older version of rockbox on an Iriver 120 and wonder if I should upgrade? |
| 19:02:18 | krazykit | old, if you stay for more than 2 minutes you might get an answer |
| 19:02:30 | old | I wonder if the new version will have features that I need |
| 19:02:44 | krazykit | most of the changes apply to all of the targets, so look at the MajorChanges wiki page to see what was added since you last updated |
| 19:02:50 | Slasheri | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/MajorChanges |
| 19:03:03 | old | My last post didn't show on my screen so I rebooted the IRC window |
| 19:04:13 | old | OK can I just run the auto install on top of my version? |
| 19:04:38 | old | If I deside to run the new version |
| 19:04:56 | krazykit | yep |
| 19:06:44 | funman | bertrik: i'm looking at fs#11330 |
| 19:08:30 | bertrik | Still not completely sure if 4 minutes on a 17h benchmark is really significant, but I guess it doesn't hurt to disable the SPI controller either |
| 19:09:17 | funman | do you prefer if we close it with 'not relevant enough' or something? |
| 19:09:55 | funman | i would like to know why we need to call dbop_init() on clipv1 but not on clipv2 |
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| 19:11:33 | old | krazykit, thanks for the reply. It looks like my version goes back farther than your web page so I think I will give it a shot, there has to be improvments. |
| 19:14:25 | pixelma | which version do you run? |
| 19:14:37 | bertrik | funman, I don't know yet |
| 19:14:38 | old | seems to be a lot of lag on my end |
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| 19:15:52 | old | Krazykit thanks for the info |
| 19:17:11 | funman | on clipv2, clearing bit 3 of CGU_DBOP keeps the content of DBOP_CTRL intact |
| 19:18:46 | bertrik | oh, so maybe this is some subtle difference between AMSv1 and AMSv2 |
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| 19:19:32 | funman | ah no, it works fine if i move ascodec_write() after modifying CGU_DBOP |
| 19:20:55 | bertrik | I have no idea why that would make a difference, they seem completely unrelated |
| 19:21:11 | bertrik | (ascodec and DBOP, I mean) |
| 19:21:55 | funman | hm but when i unplug USB the screen is off |
| 19:23:46 | bertrik | I think we (I) should document the DBOP settings a little more |
| 19:24:22 | bertrik | like using #defines for the stuff we put in DBOP_CTRL and DBOP_TIMPOL |
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| 19:48:49 | old45 | I opened the 3.6 auto install and when I did the search for the hex file it reported that the checksum did not match, do I need a different hex file for this install? |
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| 19:50:08 | old45 | Tryinf to upgarde the install on my Iriver 120 |
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| 19:53:24 | pixelma | old45: which version did you run before and more importantly which bootloader version if it is a real old install. Also, make sure to use the H120 not the H110/5 |
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| 20:13:30 | pete_ | Hello |
| 20:17:26 | pete_ | I'm having an issue with Rockbox FW. I've posted it on official forum but I haven't received any support yet. Here's a link: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=25373.0. Any help would be much appreciated, I'd love to get Rockbox working. Regards, pete PS I'll be AFK for about ten minutes from now |
| 20:19:28 | evilnick_B | pete_: The causes are likely to be tag-related. Do you have extra-long Comment tags, or album art? |
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| 20:20:10 | evilnick_B | Which is also the advice you were given "check your tags" |
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| 20:38:17 | pete_ | I do have album art embedded (APIC frame) |
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| 20:38:45 | pete_ | But none of my tags is extra long |
| 20:39:26 | pete_ | They all seem fine both in Mp3tag and Apple FW |
| 20:40:45 | old | I have an older version of rockbox on aN Iriver 120 and would like to install 3.6 but when I direct the installer to my HEX file it says the checksum does not match. Do I need to remove my HEX file and replace it with a different version? |
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| 20:43:20 | old | My questions do not always show on my screen so I am sorry if someone is trying to respond and I log off |
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| 20:45:32 | old | I am trying to load 3.6 on my older Iriver 120 which has an old version of Rockbox. The problem is that when I direct the install program to my HEX file it says the checksum is invalid. Do I need a new hex file for 3.6 |
| 20:46:27 | pixelma | old: I see you use the webclient set up from our site, I guess you have more fun with the "webchat" provided by freenode, just join #rockbox again. How old is your version exactly, especially the bootloader version. Make sure you use the one for the H120 and not the H110/115 |
| 20:48:22 | * | S_a_i_n_t wonders why the new skin parser uses *SO* much more RAM than the old one... |
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| 20:50:09 | pixelma | and why there was a big green delta due to less RAM usage at the same time |
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| 20:57:46 | S_a_i_n_t | I need to check on device, again (well, two side by side one old parser - one new) but I seem to be using about 200% skin buffer in the new parser. |
| 20:58:15 | S_a_i_n_t | A clip+ theme on the forums seems approximately the same. |
| 20:58:41 | S_a_i_n_t | was 12Kb, is now 26Kb |
| 20:59:25 | pixelma | I already wondered about this post almost 4 hours agp |
| 20:59:30 | pixelma | or ago |
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| 21:00:29 | S_a_i_n_t | It's a pretty bad time for me to be able to go any testing, just something I noticed. Haven't really been in here much recently. |
| 21:00:37 | S_a_i_n_t | s/go/do/' |
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| 21:16:18 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: Just a quick "hey" before I need to run off again, I see some talk about %pE and %pS above...did I miss something initially? Is it not supposed to be "%pE(number of seconds to true)"...I tried to work out the math but the last few days haven't really left me in the mood for anthing even slightly mentally taxing. |
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| 21:21:24 | pixelma | S_a_i_n_t: I would also have expected number of seconds. mitk did some testing and it seems it's currently counting 10 second steps, so %pE(10) would be 10 x 10 = 100 seconds. Sounds wrong to me too |
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| 21:35:40 | old45 | My hex file was created on June 20,1906. I want to update the rockbox to 3.6. Do I need a new hex file on my Iriver 120 |
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| 21:39:11 | old45 | do I need a new hex file to install 3.6 mine is created June 20 2006 |
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| 21:41:56 | old45 | installer says check sum is wrong |
| 21:42:17 | pixelma | I understand it's not easy to chat with the IRC client from our site, maybe try to http://webchat.freenode.net/ using #rockbox in the "channel" box. Other than that, if you just want to update the Rockbox build, you don't need a hex file |
| 21:43:34 | pixelma | unfortunately I don't know much about H120 bootloader installation. I just know there was a change once which made a new bootloader necessary but I can't remember when exactly that was |
| 21:44:04 | old45 | I want to update, will the auto install do that for me? |
| 21:45:12 | pixelma | it should. If you don't need the bootloader (which I'm not sure of) , you don't need the "complete install" though |
| 21:45:18 | old45 | I saw the date of 2005 mentioned on one of the pages |
| 21:45:58 | old45 | Is the procedure for an update outlined somewhere? |
| 21:48:09 | pixelma | it should be in the manual. You can chose the "installation" tab first and then "Install Rockbox" and then stable. Make sure your device is correctly mounted and recognised as a H120 |
| 21:48:34 | old45 | Like I said it looks for the HEx file and I direct it to my file on the player but I get a pop up that says checksum is wrong |
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| 21:49:30 | pixelma | then it tries to install the bootloader somehow if I understand correctly |
| 21:50:07 | AleMaxx | I this channel dedicated to the anthrax song "cadillax rock box" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcLOR-fACvg)? |
| 21:50:15 | bertrik | no |
| 21:50:21 | AleMaxx | fine ;-) |
| 21:51:15 | pixelma | old45: which you possibly don't need. What is your bootloader version (it is shown quickly at the start when you boot the player |
| 21:51:16 | old45 | I don't know why it wants to see the Hex file, and yes the device is mounted as the H120 |
| 21:51:16 | bertrik | this channel is about something way cooler: a firmware replacement for digital audio players |
| 21:51:24 | evilnick_B | old45: Are you using one of the files from http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/iriver/ ? |
| 21:52:20 | AleMaxx | bertrik, I know although I have never tried it |
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| 21:55:02 | old45 | that page does not look like anything I remember but my hex file is dated June 20,2006 |
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| 21:55:54 | old45 | Bootloader is version 6 |
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| 21:57:18 | evilnick_B | old45: You're probably best off following the instructions at http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-iriverh100/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-90002.2.1 in detail. |
| 21:57:22 | bertrik | Do we still need a lot of work to get the Sansa Clip+ and Clip v2 to stable? |
| 21:57:39 | bertrik | USB doesn't work, but using the OF for USB is a work-around |
| 21:59:34 | old45 | pixalma Is the version 6 bootloader something that needs to be updated? |
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| 22:00:15 | old45 | I will have a look at that page |
| 22:01:25 | evilnick_B | version 6 looks to be the latest |
| 22:01:40 | evilnick_B | Unless you're building from code |
| 22:02:09 | old45 | No code I am just trying to make the device work!!! |
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| 22:04:55 | old45 | Will I see the Iriver firmware version if I boot into Iriver? I do not know if my firmware version is the 1.63 that the instructions call for. |
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| 22:06:52 | evilnick_B | old45: It's a two-step process. You need to patch the iRiver firmware with firmwarepatcher first, then you flash the patched firmware to the iRiver device |
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| 22:08:09 | bluebroth3r | minimal install will also try to install the bootloader. That's why it's quick start. |
| 22:08:28 | bluebroth3r | and the date of the hex file doesn't matter. File timestamps are unreliable at best, so no reason to trust them. |
| 22:08:49 | bluebroth3r | the more important question is: which version is the hex file? I.e. which version of the original firmware does it contain? |
| 22:09:04 | bluebroth3r | and what player? h100? h300? |
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| 22:09:31 | pixelma | H120 |
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| 22:09:38 | bluebroth3r | ok. |
| 22:10:11 | bluebroth3r | well, which firmware version does the hex file contain? If Rockbox Utility says wrong checksum then it doesn't recognize that version of the file. |
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| 22:12:12 | old45_ | How do I find the firmware version inthe hex file |
| 22:12:53 | bluebroth3r | where did you get that file? |
| 22:13:20 | old45_ | I have switched from webcliant to this IRC |
| 22:13:29 | AleMaxx | does this utility use ihex format? |
| 22:13:49 | bluebroth3r | what is "this utility"? |
| 22:14:32 | AleMaxx | the ".. Rockbox Utility says wrong" |
| 22:14:44 | * | bluebroth3r doesn't understand the question |
| 22:14:57 | AleMaxx | because of what? |
| 22:15:14 | AleMaxx | by ihex I mean this: http://www.keil.com/support/docs/1584.htm |
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| 22:15:57 | AleMaxx | when you type "objdump -i" for example "ihex" may also be listed |
| 22:16:11 | bluebroth3r | The h100 firmware file uses intel hex, if you are referring to this. |
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| 22:17:23 | bluebroth3r | however, those files are crypted so you can't just run objdump on them. |
| 22:17:35 | bluebroth3r | s/crypted/scrambled/ to be exact |
| 22:18:50 | AleMaxx | nod bad, but although I never really dived into the ihex format isnt it just a ascii representation of binary data with maybe checksum protection? |
| 22:18:58 | AleMaxx | not |
| 22:19:14 | bluebroth3r | yes. But the binary data of the firmware is scrambled. |
| 22:19:43 | AleMaxx | the bootrom expects it like that? I had a similar case recently |
| 22:20:18 | bluebroth3r | you can convert the hex file into a binary representation with objcopy |
| 22:20:34 | bluebroth3r | the firmware isn't read from disk on the h100. |
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| 22:22:29 | AleMaxx | I recently looked into the boot process of some mp4 soc and dumped the bootrom which loads the code from flash and it uses some nice xor en/decoding |
| 22:22:50 | AleMaxx | I wonder why they use encryption for this |
| 22:23:23 | old45_ | My device is the h 120 and the hex file is named ihp_120.hex |
| 22:23:47 | bluebroth3r | well, if you're interested in the scrambling done by h100 / h300 see tools/irirver.c |
| 22:24:33 | bluebroth3r | old45_: where did you get that file? The firmware file needs to have that name for the player to recognize it, so the filename unfortunately doesn't tell anything. |
| 22:25:14 | old45_ | I got it when I first installed Rockbox from the Rockbox site |
| 22:25:28 | bluebroth3r | so you have Rockbox running? |
| 22:25:34 | old45_ | that was a long time ago |
| 22:25:50 | pixelma | an old installation |
| 22:25:50 | bluebroth3r | (and you can't get the firmware file from rockbox.org, we don't distribute that file) |
| 22:25:57 | old45_ | yes it works but I thought I would update |
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| 22:26:11 | bluebroth3r | so is there a need to update the bootloader at all? Which version of the bootloader are you currently running? |
| 22:26:36 | old45_ | I have a merrior site with the versions of 1.63 and newer |
| 22:26:36 | bluebroth3r | and is that file unmodified? Rockbox Utility not recognizing it could be caused by the file being patched previously |
| 22:28:06 | bluebroth3r | the current release of the bootloader for h100 is version 6. If you're running that there is no need to update it. |
| 22:28:09 | old45_ | Ok perhaps that is the problem that the file was modified on install and now that I try to do a insall with the aout install it is seeing the modifyed hex and not the hex it needs tomodify |
| 22:28:29 | old45_ | I have version 6 bootloader |
| 22:29:02 | Davide-NYC | jhMikeS: ping |
| 22:29:19 | bluebroth3r | then there is no need to install a new bootloader. Just use the installation tab in Rockbox Utility to install Rockbox, then any other parts you like to have installed. |
| 22:33:40 | old45_ | I have had so many suggestions that I need to retry to see what and where I am. Thanks for the help |
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| 22:35:58 | pixelma | I suggested the same... |
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| 22:37:42 | AleMaxx | bluebroth3r, what is rockbox really? does it do multitasking? does it have something that could be called a kernel (I dont see a directory name that suggests this in the svn root)? |
| 22:38:09 | B4gder | it multitasks, it has a kernel |
| 22:38:29 | AleMaxx | nice |
| 22:39:14 | evilnick_B | AleMaxx: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxArchitecture |
| 22:39:43 | evilnick_B | (and the pages that are linked to from there) |
| 22:39:55 | AleMaxx | thanks evilnick_B |
| 22:40:11 | bertrik | AleMaxx, threads are cooperative |
| 22:42:07 | AleMaxx | okay |
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| 22:48:51 | AleMaxx | is it easy to port? So far I found prex (prex.sourceforge.net) to be very easy to port. you only need to write a timer and serial driver and you are ready to boot up to the console (with the most common commands build in) |
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| 22:57:06 | AleMaxx | bye |
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