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| 00:01:45 | n1s | amiconn: can i find any better docs on the emac than the CFPRM and mcf5249UM? they don't really tell much about the fractional stuff, sadly |
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| 00:03:51 | amiconn | CFPRM.pdf tells everything you need |
| 00:05:35 | n1s | i probably just can't read then |
| 00:05:39 | amiconn | Section 1.4, plus the pseudo code for move.l from acc and movclr.l in chapter 6 |
| 00:06:30 | * | kugel has already 13h15m running time on his phone |
| 00:07:11 | S_a_i_n_t | kugel: That's good I guess? |
| 00:07:51 | kugel | it just shows how much I used rockbox on it since I got writing to storage working |
| 00:08:11 | S_a_i_n_t | Aha. |
| 00:12:11 | n1s | amiconn: thanks |
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| 00:15:51 | n1s | amiconn: ah, so fractional mode is always treating the operands as s0.31 (or s 0.15) |
| 00:23:46 | amiconn | Yep, that's why it's called fractional mode |
| 00:25:04 | amiconn | Using it the way we do e.g. in fixmul16 you get bits 31..63 in the accumulator |
| 00:25:24 | amiconn | Err, bits 31..62 |
| 00:26:00 | amiconn | If you need true 32x32->64, you can reconstruct bit 63 using the flags, but that costs 2 cycles extra (iirc) |
| 00:26:14 | n1s | ah, yes |
| 00:28:50 | n1s | am i correct in thinking that fixmul16 could be done with emac in integer mode and constructing the result from the 16 bit extension word and the acc? |
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| 00:29:52 | CIA-6 | New commit by mt (r27701): Use codeclib's mdct in wmapro. Input coeffs to the transform needed to be scaled down first by (log2(frame_size) - 3). Increases decoding speed by ... |
| 00:31:16 | amiconn | n1s: no |
| 00:31:25 | CIA-6 | r27701 build result: 36 errors, 0 warnings (mt committed) |
| 00:32:02 | amiconn | The emac multiplier is 32x32->40. In order to do fixmul16 with it, it would have to be 32x32->48 at least |
| 00:32:17 | amiconn | The accumulator part being 48 bits wide doesn't help |
| 00:33:19 | n1s | ah, the figure had me confused, thanks for explaining :) |
| 00:35:35 | n1s | mt: so using the code from fixmu16l in that VECT_MUL_SCALAR_KERNEL macro seems to be the best option for coldfire too |
| 00:36:59 | mt | n1s: alright |
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| 00:39:20 | n1s | btw, good job on using the codeclib mdct |
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| 00:41:45 | mt | n1s: Thanks ... although I can't spot what exactly made IRAM overflow again. :( |
| 00:44:13 | n1s | mt: the sincos_lookup tables in lib/mdct_lookup.c are in iram as well as the code in lib/mdct.c |
| 00:45:18 | n1s | these things were unused by wmapro before so they were not included by the linker |
| 00:46:30 | * | mt forgot the mdct tables in wmapro weren't in iram too ... |
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| 00:53:32 | stripwax | mt - nice job |
| 00:54:16 | mt | amiconn, n1s : Are you able to do a speed test on CF ? |
| 00:54:24 | n1s | mt: sure |
| 00:54:42 | mt | stripwax: Thanks ... buschel did lots of things though :) |
| 00:55:14 | stripwax | Buschel - nice job too! [for the logs :-) ] |
| 00:55:16 | mt | n1s : Thanks, Could you measure the slow down from removing the 512 sine window table from iram ? |
| 00:55:25 | n1s | mt: ok |
| 00:57:27 | stripwax | mt - wmapro needs a sine window *as well* as the mdt_lookup tables? |
| 00:57:46 | * | stripwax wonders what the '512 sine window' is |
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| 01:01:35 | n1s | stripwax: it uses sine for windowing |
| 01:02:25 | stripwax | n1s - is it "just sine"? if so, it could use the mdct_lookup tables |
| 01:02:52 | stripwax | which are sin,cos pairs for 0<= t <= pi/8 |
| 01:03:08 | n1s | afaik, yes but i havent' looked at the math |
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| 01:04:47 | stripwax | do we evaluate av_log2 more than once per frame? e.g. inside loops or anything? if so we should probably store it alongside s->subframe_len (e.g. add an "s->subframe_len_log2" member) |
| 01:04:49 | mt | stripwax: That is the next step actually (dropping the window tables if possible) .. but previously the the sin_cos lookup for the mdct was a scaled one. |
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| 01:05:11 | mt | so I couldn't merge them easily |
| 01:05:25 | stripwax | mt - ah ok. should be pretty easy now though i think |
| 01:05:36 | mt | should be yes |
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| 01:10:07 | n1s | mt: on the 55kbps sample it made a 0.03MHz difference, dunno if it uses that window much though |
| 01:10:20 | mt | slowdown is very tiny for PP5024 (+0.05MHz -40%) on a 320kbps sample |
| 01:11:25 | mt | n1s: In the samples I tested the larger sizes where used more often. |
| 01:12:11 | n1s | i'd go ahead and drop that from iram then |
| 01:14:33 | CIA-6 | New commit by mt (r27702): Fix red by removing sine_512 from iram (2KB). minor slowdown for PP5024 (~0.05MHz) on a 320kbps sample, and ~0.03MHz slowdown for Coldfire on a 55kbps ... |
| 01:15:00 | freddyb | I think FS #11168 is as good as I can get it if someone wants to take a peek. The fonts seem to load pretty quickly. |
| 01:16:16 | CIA-6 | r27702 build result: All green |
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| 01:21:38 | CIA-6 | New commit by mt (r27703): Increase wmapro decoder output sample depth to 24 bits, makes the mean error between our output and the original floating point decoder ~5e-8. ... |
| 01:21:49 | stripwax | hm, is it possible to have the iram-or-not-iram usage of certain tables in *codeclib* determined by the codec that uses codeclib? e.g. let's say wmapro doesn't use blocksizes > 1024 (or maybe rarely), so doesn't need sincos_lookup1 at all, so that doesn't need to fill up iram. |
| 01:22:10 | stripwax | whereas vorbis does regularly, so vorbis gets sincos_lookup1 in iram. |
| 01:22:21 | * | stripwax doesn't really know what's possible with the linker |
| 01:23:08 | CIA-6 | r27703 build result: All green |
| 01:23:16 | n1s | stripwax: i *think* it's possible but it's probably easier to just compile the lib separately for each codec then |
| 01:23:32 | stripwax | n1s - that's a good point |
| 01:23:36 | n1s | (with some differenc configuration of #defines) |
| 01:23:40 | stripwax | mt - what units are "~5e-8" in? |
| 01:24:02 | mt | damn .. missed that. |
| 01:24:04 | stripwax | won't rockbox rescale the 24-bits into 16-bits on target anyway? |
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| 01:24:15 | mt | stripwax: that's the absolute difference |
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| 01:24:44 | stripwax | mt - but assuming what scale? -1<=x<1 ? |
| 01:24:51 | mt | yes |
| 01:25:08 | * | stripwax thinks in bits |
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| 01:26:47 | stripwax | so for a 16-bit quantised output, that translates to a noise difference you absolute will not see since < 1bit? |
| 01:26:54 | stripwax | ^absolutely |
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| 01:30:38 | stripwax | I guess I thought all codecs output in 32bit, didn't notice before it was configurable. 24-bit codec output (rather than dsp output) makes total sense. can we do 32-bit codec output for wmapro (would it save anything?) |
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| 01:36:05 | mt | stripwax: (logs) This is the only answer I can think of right now http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11511?getfile=22394 - my brain has already beat me to sleep. |
| 01:36:20 | * | mt goes to sleep |
| 01:36:23 | mt | good night |
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| 01:56:23 | S_a_i_n_t | kugel: Would working on a large iconset be worthwhile for your cause? |
| 01:56:36 | S_a_i_n_t | if so, what dimensions? |
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| 02:15:11 | JdGordon| | crap, did I break touch wps? |
| 02:15:17 | JdGordon| | that change worked fine in the sim |
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| 02:24:27 | JdGordon| | arg, anyone else noticed the clip+ static in the audio when it buffers? |
| 02:25:01 | * | S_a_i_n_t has noticed clicks when the buffer is refilled in his Nanos recently. |
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| 02:29:11 | kugel | S_a_i_n_t: 24x24 would be fine I guess |
| 02:29:21 | kugel | yes, it definitely would |
| 02:29:30 | kugel | (be worthwhile that is) |
| 02:29:54 | kugel | S_a_i_n_t: you can use the sdl application, you can configure it for 320x480 (or any other resolution) |
| 02:30:06 | kugel | I haven't really checked it it works on non-linux though |
| 02:30:16 | kugel | I'm currently working on cabbie 320x480 a bit |
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| 02:38:56 | JdGordon| | does the clip+ have a quickscreen? |
| 02:41:41 | JdGordon| | kugel: to build rockbox do I just need the android sdk and ndk? |
| 02:43:06 | * | S_a_i_n_t wonders what/where "the SDL application" is. |
| 02:43:09 | kugel | JdGordon|: yes |
| 02:43:24 | JdGordon| | and can you commit the button code before calling it a night? (unless i missed the commit already?) |
| 02:43:26 | kugel | S_a_i_n_t: ../tools/configure tells you |
| 02:43:36 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r27704): Theme Editor: Added code generate/undo functionality to SkinViewer |
| 02:45:14 | CIA-6 | r27704 build result: All green |
| 02:46:09 | kugel | JdGordon|: http://pastie.org/1076377 |
| 02:46:51 | JdGordon| | ta |
| 02:47:34 | kugel | JdGordon|: you need at least the ndk and sdk, but I recommend eclipse too because figuring out the commands to make an apk are not trivial (especially with the key signing stuff) |
| 02:48:04 | JdGordon| | that isnt done in the build? :( |
| 02:48:23 | kugel | not yet |
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| 02:50:01 | JdGordon| | bugger... I couldnt get eclipse to play nicely with the adt plugin last time I tried |
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| 02:56:53 | lestatar | hi folks, noticing odd db count on gigabeatf40 vs actual music files. have already run initialize/update db several times |
| 02:57:21 | lestatar | disparity is quite large: 4400 mp3 files and 6500db entries....is this correct? |
| 02:57:35 | S_a_i_n_t | initialising the DB counts more than just music files IIRC |
| 02:57:48 | S_a_i_n_t | though, only music files are added. |
| 02:57:49 | lestatar | hey saint :-) |
| 02:58:07 | lestatar | i see...so the above examples are not totally off base? |
| 02:58:49 | S_a_i_n_t | Not at all. |
| 02:59:01 | lestatar | ok, then i will stop worrying :-) |
| 02:59:12 | lestatar | one other thing, re: albumart please |
| 02:59:32 | lestatar | how does one handle forbidden characters like / |
| 02:59:33 | S_a_i_n_t | I only have a few hundred music files on my DAPs and the database init always counts into the thousands...I believe it is counting total files. |
| 02:59:52 | lestatar | e.g. music tagged as AC/DC as artist |
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| 03:00:17 | S_a_i_n_t | Pass. I always just use "Folder.jpg" |
| 03:00:28 | lestatar | arrgggh, some help you are :-) |
| 03:00:43 | S_a_i_n_t | As I find per track AA a complete waste... |
| 03:01:20 | S_a_i_n_t | Are naming conventions for AA not covered in the manual? |
| 03:01:45 | lestatar | true that re: waste of size, but my whole collection has embedded AA |
| 03:02:02 | S_a_i_n_t | which, is pointless on your DAP ;) |
| 03:02:03 | lestatar | and yeah, manual is quite good, but do not recall how it handles stuff like "/" |
| 03:02:30 | lestatar | ^^ again, true.... but i am too lazy to do otherwise :-D |
| 03:02:47 | lestatar | no worries, just wanted to ask... |
| 03:02:55 | S_a_i_n_t | after I move my music to my DAP I always use mp3Tag to strip embedded AA, its just a waste of space. |
| 03:03:09 | lestatar | 99% accurate aart is perfectly acceptable to me |
| 03:03:43 | lestatar | ^^ this is interesting....i assume i can use mp3tag while gigabeat is connected and strip the art out? i might be not lazy enough to do that :-D |
| 03:03:58 | S_a_i_n_t | sure. |
| 03:04:13 | lestatar | saint, you are awesome. thanks much as always :-) |
| 03:04:28 | S_a_i_n_t | I don't get that too often ;) |
| 03:04:33 | lestatar | lol |
| 03:05:11 | lestatar | cheers and stop being modest - all you rb people deserve medals |
| 03:05:16 | lestatar | be well and thanks again :-) |
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| 03:10:08 | * | S_a_i_n_t wonders if there is extensions missing from http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-ipodnano1g/rockbox-buildch12.html#x15-31900012.1.4 |
| 03:10:26 | S_a_i_n_t | AFAIK new formats have been added since it was created/updated. |
| 03:10:52 | S_a_i_n_t | (it's the Filetype Colours thing in the wiki) |
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| 03:12:52 | JdGordon| | wouldn't surprise me |
| 03:13:44 | S_a_i_n_t | Do the "supported filetypes" need to be present in the viewers.config for the .colours file to work with an extension? |
| 03:13:56 | S_a_i_n_t | I always thought you could just feed it any extension. |
| 03:14:55 | JdGordon| | supported filetypes are sepcifed in 2 ways, either a hard coded list in filetypes.c (IIRC) or in the viewers.config file |
| 03:15:13 | JdGordon| | a colour should be settable to any extension in either of those lists |
| 03:15:28 | JdGordon| | oh atually maybe not |
| 03:15:33 | S_a_i_n_t | I have a huge "viewers.config of doom" list with like 500 or so extensions...so I assume I'm covered for any event. |
| 03:15:54 | JdGordon| | you can use ??? for unknown exntensions... |
| 03:16:39 | S_a_i_n_t | but, that would be all unknown extensions...so, anything it doesn't "know" is "supported" obviously...I wonder if adding them to viewers.config is enough. |
| 03:17:12 | JdGordon| | do you have the file browser set to "supported"? |
| 03:17:21 | JdGordon| | oh never mind |
| 03:17:26 | S_a_i_n_t | Also, why are you not supposed to edit viewers.config? |
| 03:17:37 | S_a_i_n_t | I remember seeing that in the wiki, and always wondered why. |
| 03:17:52 | JdGordon| | because it will be overwritten if you update from the zip |
| 03:17:55 | JdGordon| | otherwise no reason |
| 03:18:11 | AzureWurk | found a bug with the fuze build, it nolonger shows progress bars for long files such as long audio book files and some themes like noln(no ones laughing now) was working fine last week strangly enough..... |
| 03:18:12 | S_a_i_n_t | Ah, right. I thought it would break file handling somehow. |
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| 03:18:52 | JdGordon| | yeah, I have a funny feeling that the filecolours are done based on a magic flag set on known files that only come from filetypes.c. the viewers.config file is ignored for that |
| 03:19:11 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon|: Bummer :/ |
| 03:19:22 | S_a_i_n_t | Oh well, I was just playing anyway. |
| 03:19:50 | JdGordon| | I'd need to check the code to confirm... have a look in apps/gui/bitmap/list.c and see if you can find the colours code |
| 03:20:49 | JdGordon| | no, not that file |
| 03:21:35 | JdGordon| | ah no :) it does actually work on the file exntension |
| 03:22:27 | S_a_i_n_t | so, if its in viewers.config then I can set a colour? I was just looking but you'rer a lot quicker than I. |
| 03:23:56 | JdGordon| | ah hmm... |
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| 03:25:43 | JdGordon| | the colour must be in the known types list but it is done on the extension so any from viewers sohuld work |
| 03:25:55 | * | JdGordon| has to get back to real work... |
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| 03:56:41 | Drise | Thi task should be a quick fix. http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11513 |
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| 04:43:37 | n17ikh | Moving along.. I *would* like to be able to build it, though, since there's no autobuild system yet |
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| 05:09:23 | n17ikh | so, uh.. How do I actually build the APK? |
| 05:09:48 | n17ikh | make zip gives me what looks like it should be in /data/ |
| 05:10:45 | tmzt | try just make |
| 05:10:49 | tmzt | that works on other targets |
| 05:11:00 | tmzt | the whole things in svn then? |
| 05:11:08 | n17ikh | Supposedly |
| 05:11:11 | tmzt | do you need an sdk to build it? |
| 05:11:18 | n17ikh | You need the SDK and NDK |
| 05:11:24 | JdGordon| | http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/other-ide.html#Building |
| 05:11:33 | JdGordon| | once oyu figure out the commands let us know :) |
| 05:11:58 | n17ikh | that is somewhat less than helpful |
| 05:12:10 | n17ikh | so how does kugel do it? |
| 05:12:19 | JdGordon| | probably in eclipse |
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| 05:16:57 | n17ikh | ugh |
| 05:17:07 | n17ikh | I think installing a complete IDE is a little beyond where I wanted to go for this |
| 05:17:27 | tmzt | you shouldn't need an ide |
| 05:17:30 | tmzt | just ant |
| 05:17:32 | JdGordon| | ok good.. so figure out the command line options |
| 05:17:35 | tmzt | and the sdk, ndk |
| 05:17:40 | JdGordon| | someone needs to do that eventually anyway :) |
| 05:17:43 | tmzt | I don't have it installed |
| 05:17:49 | tmzt | I'm clearing up some room |
| 05:17:57 | tmzt | eventually I'm going to port X to ndk :) |
| 05:18:16 | tmzt | let me see what you guys have in svn for now |
| 05:18:57 | n17ikh | well, I downloaded the apk that was posted earlier, but it looks like it's built off an older version |
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| 05:19:15 | n17ikh | no trackball support and it's using a tiny, tiny font by default which is impossible to use with the touchscreen :/ |
| 05:19:27 | tmzt | it's pretty cool that he already has rockbox as a service |
| 05:19:43 | tmzt | I've been looking at it as a multimedia framework on embedded for quite a while |
| 05:19:54 | tmzt | smaller than most given where it came from |
| 05:20:01 | tmzt | and a good set of codecs |
| 05:20:49 | n17ikh | wait, what |
| 05:20:55 | n17ikh | I'm not sure I understand the touch controls |
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| 05:21:14 | n17ikh | should it be displaying buttons for me? |
| 05:21:34 | n17ikh | seems like just touching anywhere doesn't do anything, but swiping does.. but results are somewhat unexpected |
| 05:21:36 | JdGordon| | n17ikh: where did you get the impression that it was finished or working enough to be usable except by devs? |
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| 05:22:03 | n17ikh | [21:49] <S_a_i_n_t> it's quite usable by my understanding. |
| 05:22:04 | n17ikh | ;) |
| 05:22:27 | n17ikh | anyway, I wasn't really expecting it to be finished |
| 05:22:44 | n17ikh | but I was expecting to be able to at least browse around the menus a bit |
| 05:22:55 | JdGordon| | so go read the manual |
| 05:23:15 | n17ikh | there's a manual? |
| 05:23:15 | JdGordon| | have you used a touchscreen target with rockbox before? |
| 05:23:40 | n17ikh | No, I have not. |
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| 05:24:17 | JdGordon| | then quite frankly, rockbox on android is not ready enough for you |
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| 05:28:41 | tmzt | touchscreen is still the regions of the screen thing? |
| 05:28:48 | tmzt | or are both modes going to used |
| 05:28:48 | n17ikh | Apparently. |
| 05:29:06 | n17ikh | At least, now that I know what it is, I can use it |
| 05:29:45 | tmzt | JdGordon|: the README seems to explain how to build without eclipse |
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| 05:44:06 | JdGordon| | tmzt: buidling shouldnt be a problem. making the apk is |
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| 05:51:32 | JdGordon| | kugel: signing the apks is another good reason to split the librockbox.so file out of it. :) no need to have the build system sign and make the apk each time |
| 05:52:23 | tmzt | you can sign with jartool |
| 05:52:29 | tmzt | or the android equivalent |
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| 07:02:00 | ruckus | hey peoples. like there's an option to prevent rockbox from entering certain files into the database, is there an option to prevent certain files from being scrobbled by the last.fm functionality ? |
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| 07:41:26 | mt | amiconn: ping |
| 07:44:21 | mt | I have 2 CF asm versions of vector_fixmul_scalar (in wmapro) http://www.pastie.org/1076746 - anyone could review/test if they work correctly ? |
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| 07:53:38 | JdGordon| | http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=972&target=sansaclipplus <- pacman in the progressbar :D |
| 07:54:11 | mt | :O |
| 07:55:26 | JdGordon| | haha "GAME OVER" when the track ends |
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| 08:00:19 | bieber | bluebrother: The installer looks good. When it downloads the font pack, does it set the registry key for its location? |
| 08:01:14 | JdGordon| | hey bieber, i pasted the build error last night, did you happen to see it? |
| 08:01:34 | bieber | No, are you still getting it? |
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| 08:02:28 | CIA-6 | New commit by mt (r27705): Drop the the mdct files from libwmapro since they are no longer needed. |
| 08:04:17 | bieber | JdGordon|: Just found your message |
| 08:04:22 | CIA-6 | r27705 build result: 79 errors, 0 warnings (mt committed) |
| 08:05:07 | bluebrother | bieber: no, the installer doesn't set anything about the fonts, it just downloads and extracts them to the program folder. |
| 08:05:33 | bieber | That would be my only concern. If it downloads them but they don't show up in the editor, it could be awfully confusing |
| 08:06:31 | bieber | Can you set registry keys from the installer? |
| 08:07:16 | ruckus | hey peoples, just in case nobody saw my question - i know there's an option to prevent rockbox from entering certain files into the database, so is there an option to prevent certain files from being scrobbled by the last.fm functionality ? |
| 08:08:41 | bluebrother | yes, I could do that. Given that the registry keys the theme editor uses don't change ;-) |
| 08:09:29 | S_a_i_n_t | bieber" Pingy-pingy-ping-ping? |
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| 08:10:16 | CIA-6 | New commit by mt (r27706): oops ! shouldn't have removed mdct_tables. |
| 08:10:45 | bieber | JdGordon|: Could you try compiling the latest build? That flag isn't used in that file anymore, but a different one. It _should_ work fine, since it's in the QGraphicsItem namespace and the class that uses it extends QGraphicsItem |
| 08:10:48 | bieber | S_a_i_n_t: Hey |
| 08:11:07 | S_a_i_n_t | bieber: Why does the themeeditor add a newline after a comment? |
| 08:11:24 | bieber | Do you mean when you generate code? |
| 08:11:29 | S_a_i_n_t | yeah. |
| 08:11:50 | S_a_i_n_t | Or if you click "update code" it screws your formatting. |
| 08:11:55 | CIA-6 | r27706 build result: 240 errors, 0 warnings (mt committed) |
| 08:12:23 | Buschel | mt: your IRAM change did not affect PP5024 (and PP5022, MCF5250, S5L870X). so, the tests regarding performance loss should have been made on other targets |
| 08:12:57 | Buschel | mt: details about which window types are used how often are placed in FS #11498 |
| 08:13:07 | Buschel | mt: nice to see the changes are in now :) |
| 08:13:11 | bieber | S_a_i_n_t: It won't ever keep your code perfectly the same after generating code, because the parse tree doesn't keep all of the formatting info |
| 08:13:15 | bluebrother | hmm, the uninstaller should also remove the Theme Editor settings now I'm thinking about it. |
| 08:13:39 | bieber | The newlines after comments are due to the way the parser handles comments and the \n characters after them, iirc |
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| 08:13:53 | bluebrother | I'll change that tonight. |
| 08:13:57 | JdGordon| | bieber: that was from last night, I'll try again in a few hours when I get home |
| 08:14:10 | bieber | Okay |
| 08:14:22 | bieber | Can anyone else confirm compiling the latest Theme Editor revisions? |
| 08:14:27 | S_a_i_n_t | bieber: I also dislike the way it keeps moving my %Vf's and %Vb's out of my %V and &Vl lines...is there a way to stop it from doing that? |
| 08:14:50 | S_a_i_n_t | s/&Vl/%Vl/ |
| 08:14:59 | bieber | S_a_i_n_t: I could, but it would require some special code just for those cases |
| 08:15:20 | S_a_i_n_t | Aha, I guess I just have to not click "Update Code" ;) |
| 08:15:27 | S_a_i_n_t | I was just checking. |
| 08:15:32 | bieber | Yeah, think of it like Dreamweaver |
| 08:15:52 | bieber | You can edit your documents in WYSIWYG mode, but it's probably not going to end up formatted the way you would type it yourself ;) |
| 08:15:56 | S_a_i_n_t | Aaaaargh! No thanks! |
| 08:16:00 | mt | Buschel: according to the histogram 512 and 256 are the least used, and since iram overflowed by 1488 bytes, 512 had to be my choice. I hope I could merge the window tables with the mdct lookup tables or the windowing code from wma though. |
| 08:16:05 | S_a_i_n_t | I actually *like* the themeeditor! :P |
| 08:16:13 | mt | Buschel: Have you seen the CF asm ? |
| 08:16:25 | bieber | Haha |
| 08:16:46 | bieber | For what it's worth, though, Dreamweaver (at least when I used it some odd years ago) does make a pretty decent code editor |
| 08:16:47 | bluebrother | bieber: builds fine for me (on linux that is) |
| 08:17:01 | bieber | It's just that if you let it write your code for you, you'll end up getting laughed at |
| 08:17:19 | CIA-6 | New commit by mt (r27707): Fix reds. |
| 08:17:20 | Buschel | mt: your decision was right, but I would like to see measures of performance loss on impacted targets. you tested on PP5024 which was not affected by this change at all (the measured diff seems to be noise) |
| 08:18:01 | S_a_i_n_t | bieber: Did you manage to find a "MS-Paintesque" widget? |
| 08:18:06 | mt | Buschel: ah ok .. hope someone could help us with that. |
| 08:18:19 | bieber | S_a_i_n_t: Haven't looked yet, lemme see if I can find one |
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| 08:18:35 | Buschel | mt: I saw that you've posted CF asm, but I do not really understand CF asm... |
| 08:18:40 | S_a_i_n_t | Don't let it stop you doing important stuff though ;) |
| 08:18:47 | CIA-6 | r27707 build result: All green |
| 08:18:58 | S_a_i_n_t | I just thought it would make the themeeditor a more "all-in-one" editor. |
| 08:19:02 | JdGordon| | bieber: well it builds fine on my pc at home, but that one never had a problem |
| 08:19:05 | JdGordon| | my laptop has the issue |
| 08:19:24 | bluebrother | which issue? |
| 08:19:40 | bieber | A quick Googling doesn't find anything, but it's kind of a hard thing to look for, since if you search for "Qt Paint Widget," you get a million pages about the paint() functions of various Qt widgets |
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| 08:21:04 | bluebrother | S_a_i_n_t: what do you mean by "MS-Paintesque" widget? |
| 08:21:28 | S_a_i_n_t | bluebrother: A bitmap editor to chuck in the themeeditor |
| 08:21:44 | * | S_a_i_n_t thought this would be handy |
| 08:22:03 | JdGordon| | sounds out of scope to me |
| 08:22:12 | S_a_i_n_t | How? |
| 08:22:41 | bluebrother | ah, something for bitmap strips and such? |
| 08:22:41 | S_a_i_n_t | It means one app can then build an entire theme, sounds entirely in scope to me. |
| 08:22:50 | S_a_i_n_t | bluebrother: Yep. |
| 08:23:09 | S_a_i_n_t | bluebrother: Backgrounds, simple editing, etc. |
| 08:23:16 | Buschel | mt: n1s or amiconn should review your CF asm. both know CF very well |
| 08:23:47 | JdGordon| | it should have OS integration to load the .bmp in a proper image editor |
| 08:23:49 | bluebrother | the problem I'm seeing is that you'll end up with a inferiour bitmap editor compared to a "real" bitmap editor. Unless someone spends quite a lot of work making it a fully bitmap editor ß−− which is a bit out of the scope of the theme editor IMO. |
| 08:24:12 | mt | Buschel : yeah but they are not here now apparently, so I'll just have to wait |
| 08:25:00 | Buschel | mt: but both read the logs. if you ask for review and the place the link here, you will most likely get a response |
| 08:25:55 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r27708): Theme Editor: Removed empty lines after comments in generated code |
| 08:26:06 | Buschel | bye |
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| 08:26:33 | bluebrother | Qt has an example called "Plug and Paint" which does some bitmap editor thing (though it's main purpose is to be an example for plugins). I don't think there's a ready-made widget for an editor around |
| 08:26:48 | JdGordon| | bieber: I wonder if qt4 on my laptop is fucked.. I'm still getting the grey unmovable window for the timer window on startup |
| 08:27:03 | bieber | It's sounding very possible |
| 08:27:32 | CIA-6 | r27708 build result: All green |
| 08:28:19 | bluebrother | JdGordon|: have you already tried removing the Theme Editor configuration file? |
| 08:28:22 | bieber | S_a_i_n_t: Getting rid of the newlines after comments was actually a really easy fix, but the %Vf and etc. would be a little trickier |
| 08:28:55 | JdGordon| | bluebrother: in ~/.config/rockbox.org ? yes |
| 08:29:40 | bluebrother | yep. Ok, too bad. |
| 08:32:17 | JdGordon| | bieber: a "generic target" configure option would be very handy... RaaA lets you set any lcd dimension and it wont be in the devicedb |
| 08:32:44 | JdGordon| | i.e choose egeneric and let me then specify the width/height |
| 08:32:56 | bieber | Okay |
| 08:33:06 | S_a_i_n_t | bieber: Don't beat yourself up about it ;) |
| 08:33:17 | S_a_i_n_t | The newlines way the more annoying of the two IMO |
| 08:33:24 | bieber | I think it still supports #screenwidth and #screenheight in the cfg file, I'll just have to add a "Manual settings" option to the new project dialog |
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| 08:34:02 | JdGordon| | right, remembering them doesnt work :) |
| 08:34:09 | JdGordon| | and that also requires you know about them to begin with |
| 08:35:05 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r27709): Theme Editor: Fixed ParseTreeModel's paramChanged function to emit the correct dataChanged range |
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| 08:36:36 | CIA-6 | r27709 build result: All green |
| 08:37:56 | CIA-6 | New commit by mt (r27710): update wmapro's README. |
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| 08:39:20 | CIA-6 | r27710 build result: All green |
| 08:44:39 | S_a_i_n_t | bieber; What do I need to do to get my animations animatin' in the editor? 0_o |
| 08:44:45 | S_a_i_n_t | That one has been bugging me. |
| 08:45:29 | JdGordon| | speaking of which... using sublines for animations is wrong :D |
| 08:45:57 | bieber | S_a_i_n_t: Open the timer panel, click start |
| 08:46:18 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon|: Yeah, whatever :P |
| 08:46:26 | S_a_i_n_t | Nice try in the Forums by the way ;) |
| 08:47:30 | JdGordon| | go on.. try to tell me you dont have your animation strips in the correct order |
| 08:48:12 | S_a_i_n_t | I don't have any animations that could use your implementation I don;t believe. |
| 08:48:22 | * | S_a_i_n_t does NOT want to get into this again. |
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| 08:55:45 | bieber | Can I temporarily revert files in SVN, but still save my changes without committing? |
| 08:57:38 | JdGordon| | svn diff > file; svn revert; patch |
| 08:57:43 | JdGordon| | or swicth to git |
| 08:58:57 | bieber | Aw crap |
| 08:59:08 | bieber | It looks like I broke something in a previous revision and didn't notice it |
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| 08:59:44 | bieber | How do I get a hold of the commit log? |
| 08:59:53 | JdGordon| | svn log |
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| 09:13:53 | bieber | Wait, can an image be displayed in more than one place in a skin? |
| 09:14:44 | bieber | JdGordon|, S_a_i_n_t: ^ |
| 09:14:55 | S_a_i_n_t | sure |
| 09:15:12 | JdGordon| | once per viewport |
| 09:15:13 | S_a_i_n_t | once its %xl'd you can %xd it as many times as you like |
| 09:15:15 | bieber | Oh, okay |
| 09:15:32 | S_a_i_n_t | (per viewport) |
| 09:15:47 | JdGordon| | no, only once per viewport |
| 09:16:09 | S_a_i_n_t | yeah, I corrected myself. |
| 09:16:11 | bieber | I was just looking at my code for %Vd and thought it was utterly bizarre that it was copying the image object on display, but I guess it makes sense now |
| 09:16:17 | JdGordon| | you can use the tag as many times as you like, but the last one which is actually in a "true" branch will be the subimage displaed |
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| 09:28:04 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r27711): Theme Editor: Fixed image positioning bug, implemented saveGeometry() in RBImage |
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| 09:38:04 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r27712): Theme Editor: Stopped bug that caused segfault if SBS element was moved from within a WPS preview |
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| 09:43:08 | S_a_i_n_t | bieber: The "FM Radio" device configuration TAB needs a "Radio Art Available" option, at present this setting is defined by "Album Art Available" in the "Playlist/Song Info" TAB which isn't really relevant to the .fms at all. |
| 09:43:46 | bieber | Hmm, are they represented by the same tag? |
| 09:43:58 | S_a_i_n_t | How do you mean? |
| 09:44:01 | S_a_i_n_t | Oh, yes. |
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| 09:44:24 | bieber | Hmm, I'll have to add a way to duplicate them |
| 09:44:38 | bieber | Out of curiosity, where does "FM Art" come from? |
| 09:44:49 | S_a_i_n_t | The user needs to add it. |
| 09:45:06 | S_a_i_n_t | The naming convention is the preset name IIRC |
| 09:45:34 | S_a_i_n_t | ...possibly the frequency also, JdGordon is the one to ask there though. |
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| 09:46:11 | S_a_i_n_t | It just makes *NO* sense having the radio art dependent on a setting in playlist/song info |
| 09:46:31 | S_a_i_n_t | It took me ages to figure out how to turn radio art off lol ;) |
| 09:46:50 | S_a_i_n_t | I thought "surely it won't use the same setting as regular AA"...but, yep ;) |
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| 09:49:34 | bieber | Yeah, all those settings are mapped 1:1 onto the tags, at the moment I don't have a way to map more than one option onto the same tag |
| 09:50:30 | S_a_i_n_t | Aha, hmmm...its definitely something worth figuring out. |
| 09:51:05 | S_a_i_n_t | As radio art and album art are two clearly different things, yet they use the same tag. |
| 09:52:48 | S_a_i_n_t | bieber: Perhaps it is easier to convince JdGordon to add another tag for Radio Art |
| 09:53:04 | bieber | Nah, it won't be too much trouble |
| 09:53:12 | S_a_i_n_t | It doesn't seem to make much sence for them to share the same tag when I really think about it. |
| 09:59:31 | bieber | Eh, they're basically the same thing |
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| 10:01:17 | Peddy | in the 'playlist' menu on my Fuze with the svn rockbox, the filename rather than ID3 tag of music is displayed. Is there a way to display id3 tags instead? |
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| 10:03:17 | S_a_i_n_t | Peddy: Which playlist menu? |
| 10:03:34 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r27713): Theme Editor: Implemented saveGeometry() in RBAlbumArt |
| 10:04:46 | Peddy | S_a_i_n_t, the 'view current playlist' window |
| 10:05:23 | CIA-6 | r27713 build result: All green |
| 10:05:41 | S_a_i_n_t | Mine appears to be displaying the id3 tags, but, it's pretty hard to confirm that actually...as my files are named sensibly |
| 10:05:48 | S_a_i_n_t | ie: The same as the id3 tags |
| 10:06:05 | S_a_i_n_t | So, you may indeed be correct. |
| 10:06:44 | Peddy | Bizarre. Yes, the majority of my songs have filenames similar to their tags, but sometimes the filename has the track number at the start |
| 10:06:53 | Peddy | and so it appears as 1. 1. Trackname' |
| 10:06:57 | pixelma | the playlist viewer doesn't display ID3 tags |
| 10:06:59 | Peddy | in playlist menu |
| 10:07:03 | amiconn | mt: Version 2 needs the emac in integer mode, and it will only work correctly if you are sure that each product doesn't overflow 40 bits |
| 10:07:31 | amiconn | Oh, and it is (a) incorrect and (b) sub-optimal |
| 10:08:10 | Peddy | pixelma, well that confirms it. Is this deliberate, or could I code a patch for consideration? |
| 10:08:56 | amiconn | In integer mode the right shift by one isn't needed - it is only needed if you use the emac to get the top "32" bits of a 32x32->64 bit multiply |
| 10:09:14 | amiconn | Also, what are you doing with accext01 after reading it? Nothing, it seems... |
| 10:09:44 | amiconn | It also misses right shifting by 16 somewhere |
| 10:09:45 | pixelma | Peddy: it's not possible currently and using tags there would mean looking into each file - there are quite a number of threads in the forums about it. Maybe it's ok-ish on targets with dircache and database loadable to RAM or so |
| 10:10:36 | pixelma | if a patch would be considered depends on the implementation and the speed penalty, especially for those who don't want or need it |
| 10:10:53 | S_a_i_n_t | If dircache and 'load database to RAM' is on, it should be fairly "cheap" |
| 10:11:02 | amiconn | Oh, and it's sub-optimal because you're causing an emac stall. This can be reduced by moving the leal.l for %[src] up, right after the last mac.l |
| 10:11:07 | S_a_i_n_t | It would still mean opening each file though. |
| 10:11:25 | pixelma | Peddy: I think you'll even find patch(es) in the tracker already |
| 10:11:44 | pixelma | S_a_i_n_t: there are targets without the two things (low-mem) |
| 10:11:54 | Peddy | Would it not be easier to link the playlist the tag database? |
| 10:12:01 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: Yes, indeed there are. |
| 10:12:11 | bros | When I try to run rbutil as root I get "no protocol specified" |
| 10:12:13 | Peddy | I'll have a look, pixelma. Would be perfect... |
| 10:12:19 | amiconn | In this case it might even be advantageous to switch modes for blocks of 4 (if version 2 isn't sufficient after fixing it) |
| 10:13:58 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGord: pixelma: anyone: Is someone able to give me an example of a conditional UI viewport? I want to have a different UI viewport for the Rec Screen...but, I appear to be botching it. |
| 10:14:13 | S_a_i_n_t | 'Tis the last thing left before this theme is finally finished. |
| 10:14:20 | JdGord | I don't think anyone has one |
| 10:14:27 | pixelma | never tried |
| 10:14:48 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGord: Didn't you make a WPS/SBS when you first figured it out? |
| 10:14:59 | JdGord | Sure |
| 10:14:59 | S_a_i_n_t | (was wondering if you posted it anywhere) |
| 10:15:12 | JdGord | Pastebin maybe |
| 10:15:15 | pixelma | JdGord: is it possible (with expected result) to put %Vb/f into a conditional |
| 10:15:17 | S_a_i_n_t | Ah :/ |
| 10:15:17 | JdGord | So it's gone |
| 10:15:18 | pixelma | ? |
| 10:15:34 | JdGord | Yeah that should work |
| 10:16:10 | pixelma | ok, I'll try it out. It could potentially simplify my theme |
| 10:16:48 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: You actually reminded me of that just now, I was thinking about that this morningbut forgot to mention it to you. |
| 10:17:08 | S_a_i_n_t | I remembered you said you had a theme that changed the fg/bg colours based on the time(?) |
| 10:17:28 | JdGord | Bbs |
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| 10:19:26 | pixelma | S_a_i_n_t: not depending on time, but e.g. battery level (in numbers) gets a more "warning" colour if battery is low - or the volume one if you get into the +0dB area |
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| 10:20:54 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: %?bl<|||||||%Vf(000000)|||> (just an example) should indeed be possible. |
| 10:21:44 | pixelma | but I thought about it recently and since the clock tags can be used conditionally, having a theme that e.g. changes to a "night mode" based on time should be doable too |
| 10:22:46 | pixelma | S_a_i_n_t: I need to try and since the theme is already coded and working with different viewports, it needs some more editing... |
| 10:23:27 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: Yeah, I have a theme that does a "night mode" effect somewhere. |
| 10:23:51 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: Bonus points if you manage to make it conditional to your birthdate :P |
| 10:24:05 | S_a_i_n_t | (display a backdrop with a present on it) ;) |
| 10:25:02 | pixelma | it doesn't use a backdrop and I don't think that you can use backdrops conditionally ;) |
| 10:25:46 | S_a_i_n_t | Pretty sure you can use a conditional backdrop...I seem to remember trying this once. |
| 10:26:23 | S_a_i_n_t | I may have just %xl'd a screen-sized image at 0x 0y instead though. |
| 10:28:39 | S_a_i_n_t | hehehe....I managed to crash the theme editor :P |
| 10:28:45 | S_a_i_n_t | bieber: ^ |
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| 10:29:49 | bieber | S_a_i_n_t: What crashed it? |
| 10:30:45 | bieber | Loading a screen-sized image at (0,0)? |
| 10:30:48 | S_a_i_n_t | Trying to set a UI viewport with the .sbs conditional to %cs/rec screen |
| 10:31:11 | bieber | Show me a code snippet I can copy/paste to reproduce it? |
| 10:31:47 | S_a_i_n_t | It tells me it parses correctly, but when I change the "current screen" value in the "Misc." TAB the editor just vanished off the screen ;) |
| 10:32:44 | S_a_i_n_t | I'll just send the whole theme, easier (in a lazy mood, plus...it's small) |
| 10:32:50 | bieber | Okay |
| 10:33:39 | S_a_i_n_t | bieber: Can you accept a DCC send with your client? |
| 10:33:46 | bieber | I have no idea, give it a try |
| 10:34:04 | S_a_i_n_t | it's awaiting confirmation |
| 10:34:12 | S_a_i_n_t | (from your end) |
| 10:34:18 | bieber | I don't see anything, so I guess that's a no |
| 10:34:29 | S_a_i_n_t | Sweet, one sec. |
| 10:35:58 | S_a_i_n_t | bieber: http://www.datafilehost.com/download-86819d93.html |
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| 10:40:02 | bieber | Hmm, the problem isn't popping out at me, I'll have to take a closer look in the morning |
| 10:40:20 | S_a_i_n_t | but, is it crashing for you? |
| 10:40:28 | Peddy | Easytag is top-tier. |
| 10:40:43 | S_a_i_n_t | bieber: ^ |
| 10:40:56 | bieber | Yeah, it's crashing |
| 10:41:06 | bieber | Just not as nicely as I like :P |
| 10:41:09 | S_a_i_n_t | Aha, glad I'm not insane then ;) |
| 10:41:25 | S_a_i_n_t | but, crap that its crashing...I feel guilty, like I broke it :P |
| 10:42:17 | S_a_i_n_t | bieber: Yes, I wouldn't really call it a crash (though technically it is), its more just abruptly vanishing from view ;) |
| 10:43:20 | bieber | Eh, it's an assert failure, so technically it's ending itself, but it's a crash :P |
| 10:43:34 | bieber | And it turns out it's not the VI thing that's crashing it, it's another line further down |
| 10:44:43 | S_a_i_n_t | but, it never crashed until I added the additional UI viewport. |
| 10:45:24 | bieber | You can comment it out and it'll still crash |
| 10:46:14 | S_a_i_n_t | Hmmmm, comment out the %?cs line, *and* the %Vi(a) line? |
| 10:46:16 | bieber | It was line 132, and I got it fixed now :) |
| 10:46:32 | S_a_i_n_t | Hmmmm...what was the problem? |
| 10:46:38 | S_a_i_n_t | It said it parsed correctly. |
| 10:47:08 | S_a_i_n_t | bieber: Can you please pastebin the corrected .sbs for me? |
| 10:47:16 | S_a_i_n_t | (in entirety) |
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| 10:47:22 | bieber | No, it was the editor I fixed, not the SBS |
| 10:47:29 | S_a_i_n_t | Aha. |
| 10:48:18 | bieber | The problem was that when I fixed it to allow you to use conditionals with a single branch basically as if statements, I left a hole open that could lead to a segfault |
| 10:48:54 | bieber | And %?Rp<%Sx(Recording)> triggered it |
| 10:48:56 | S_a_i_n_t | Glad it wasn't me, that would have been embarrasing. |
| 10:49:36 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r27714): Theme Editor: Fixed bug that crashed conditionals nested in sublines, began work on making progress bars implement RBMovable |
| 10:49:43 | bieber | Nope, the embarrasment is all mine :) |
| 10:50:12 | S_a_i_n_t | you can't call it embarrasment when its a WIP...its called "learning" then ;) |
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| 10:51:10 | CIA-6 | r27714 build result: All green |
| 10:51:34 | bieber | There we go :) |
| 10:51:39 | bieber | Okay, I'm off to sleep |
| 10:51:43 | S_a_i_n_t | bieber: One thing I haven't noticed...does the editor outline the UI viewport? |
| 10:51:54 | S_a_i_n_t | ah, ..sorry. Night. |
| 10:52:07 | bieber | If you check the "Show viewports" option in the config panel, UI viewport gets outlined in blue |
| 10:52:10 | bieber | All the other ones get outlined in red |
| 10:52:34 | S_a_i_n_t | Ah, thanks...so many setting I haven't discovered yet. I'm still learning them all. |
| 10:52:43 | S_a_i_n_t | Thanks bieber, sleep well. |
| 10:59:03 | JdGordon | pixelma: %?bl<|||||||%Vf(000000)|||> (just an example) should indeed be possible. <- surely %?if(%bl, <, 40)<something> :) |
| 10:59:47 | JdGordon | you cant doconditional backdrop |
| 10:59:54 | * | JdGordon quickly reading the backog |
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| 11:00:34 | S_a_i_n_t | Yeah, as an afterthought I remembered I did it with %xl and a fullscreen image at 0x,0y |
| 11:03:29 | pixelma | if you want to nag about your ideas again - I see your suggestions as two different things. One is the comparison logic, the other the "collapsing" of bitmap strips and which I have differing opinions about either. The collapsing idea isn't new btw. and had already been abandoned once |
| 11:04:22 | JdGordon | of course its two seperate ideas :) |
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| 11:57:15 | n1s | hm, my awesome asm for VECT_MUL_SCALAR_KERNEL is quite a bit slower than just using the fixmul16 macro in the c loop :/ |
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| 12:04:30 | n1s | hmm, could be that gcc is stacking the loop counter |
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| 12:12:05 | n1s | hmm, nope, it isn't probably cache effects then :/ |
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| 12:29:49 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon1: What's the maximum timeout that could be specified in %t(<foo>) and how is it written, is it seconds only or does it go to min:sec? hh:min:sec even? |
| 12:30:24 | JdGordon1 | seconds, or deci-seconds |
| 12:30:42 | JdGordon1 | 0.1 is the smallest timeout |
| 12:30:45 | S_a_i_n_t | sweet, do you know the max timeout? |
| 12:30:58 | JdGordon1 | MAX_INT/10 |
| 12:31:19 | S_a_i_n_t | 0_0 |
| 12:31:20 | JdGordon1 | 2^15-1 |
| 12:31:36 | JdGordon1 | no,( 2^15-1)/10 |
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| 12:32:09 | JdGordon1 | no,... ( 2^31-1)/10 |
| 12:32:12 | JdGordon1 | BIG! |
| 12:32:51 | S_a_i_n_t | ~270 odd. |
| 12:33:07 | S_a_i_n_t | not *that* big, unless I'm terribly bad at math |
| 12:33:35 | S_a_i_n_t | errr...wait. |
| 12:33:48 | S_a_i_n_t | ~3200 ish? |
| 12:34:03 | S_a_i_n_t | :/ |
| 12:35:08 | CIA-6 | New commit by nls (r27715): libwmapro: remove coldfire fixmul24 as it is both incorrect and unused, fix fixmul 31 comment. |
| 12:35:11 | JdGordon1 | (2^31-1)/10 |
| 12:35:11 | JdGordon1 | 214748364 |
| 12:35:35 | JdGordon1 | 6+ years worth of seconds |
| 12:35:54 | S_a_i_n_t | should be sufficient ;) |
| 12:36:49 | CIA-6 | r27715 build result: All green |
| 12:38:10 | S_a_i_n_t | I'm just wanting to print a "No RDS Available" or similar for a short time every time the .fms is entered and not seen again until the next time the .fms is entered instead of timing out at some point, a year would be a ridiculous amount for that even ;) |
| 12:38:23 | S_a_i_n_t | I thought the number would have been a lot smaller than that. |
| 12:40:44 | JdGordon1 | %?mh<on|off> right? |
| 12:41:22 | S_a_i_n_t | for what? that's correct for "hold on/off", yes. |
| 12:42:37 | JdGordon1 | ugg... the image strips for hold are upsidedown for me :( |
| 12:44:43 | * | JdGordon1 really needs to change the token values to start at 0 not 1 |
| 12:49:04 | JdGordon1 | AlexP: pixelma(regardless of what you think of the change)... can I get some help with the manual text? |
| 12:49:54 | JdGordon1 | I'm changing %xd to allow 2 option params, the first being another tag, the second being an offset into the bmp strip. I have no idea how to put that into TeX |
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| 12:51:06 | JdGordon1 | what is the difference between \\ and \newline? |
| 12:54:34 | pixelma | in a table? - \\ starts a new table row, \newline keeps the linebreak in the cell |
| 12:55:25 | JdGordon1 | ok |
| 12:57:27 | JdGordon1 | http://pastebin.com/ELbQRBkr is the manual change |
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| 12:58:56 | kugel | "JdGordon1 really needs to change the token values to start at 0 not " |
| 12:59:00 | kugel | just stop being lazy |
| 12:59:23 | kugel | don't change how it was over *several* years only because you can't remember it |
| 12:59:53 | JdGordon1 | do you have any idea wtf you are talking about? or do you just like spouting crap? |
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| 13:00:21 | kugel | you want to swap the order of binary coniditionals |
| 13:00:55 | JdGordon1 | you idiot... I want to change the whole thing to be base 0 indexed like C, not 1 indexed like nonesense |
| 13:01:37 | kugel | index? $?tag<true|false> is indexed? |
| 13:01:41 | JdGordon1 | did I say I want to change the order? no |
| 13:01:45 | JdGordon1 | just STFU |
| 13:02:05 | pixelma | heh, both calm down and don't get personal. Please |
| 13:05:08 | kugel | binary conditionals are not index, it's just string or NULL. I don't know how that could be changed to some 0 based indexing (not without swapping anyway) |
| 13:06:12 | JdGordon1 | "jd, I dont understand what you are saying, kindly explain?" instead of "you moron" perhaps? |
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| 13:26:12 | gevaerts | kugel: are the current apk builds still screen size specific? |
| 13:26:26 | kugel | gevaerts: yes |
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| 13:26:47 | gevaerts | Could you do a 240x320 build one of these days? |
| 13:27:01 | * | gevaerts didn't see those in the logs yet |
| 13:27:12 | kugel | sure, will do in a few minutes |
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| 13:28:37 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r27716): Add a T type to the tag table which allows parameters to be a single tag |
| 13:28:50 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r27717): New feature for the %xd() (display a preloaded image) skin tag. ... |
| 13:30:10 | CIA-6 | r27716 build result: All green |
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| 13:33:19 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon: Where does Radio Art go? |
| 13:33:30 | S_a_i_n_t | And...it needs to be the name of the preset right? |
| 13:33:33 | JdGordon | sorry bieber, without being able to build the theme editor I have no way of even tyring to figure out how to implement that change |
| 13:33:48 | JdGordon | umm, in the .rockbox/fmpresets folder iirc |
| 13:33:52 | JdGordon | and yes |
| 13:33:57 | S_a_i_n_t | thanks |
| 13:35:16 | JdGordon | kugel: the android readme says cp librockbox.so to libs/armeabi... where is that folder? |
| 13:35:51 | kugel | ah, it's not there right? |
| 13:36:13 | kugel | just create it. git doesn't add empty folders to the version control :( |
| 13:36:28 | JdGordon | its in the build dir? |
| 13:36:31 | JdGordon | or android dir? |
| 13:37:19 | kugel | in the android dir |
| 13:37:50 | kugel | you can build in the android dir if you didn't do it |
| 13:38:06 | kugel | I just need to figure out how to put some gitignores for that one |
| 13:38:09 | JdGordon | ah ok, I missed the line that says use the android dir as the build dir |
| 13:38:18 | JdGordon | add a .placeholder file |
| 13:40:15 | * | JdGordon reads step 1 of that linked url and is already lost |
| 13:40:15 | JdGordon | aapt? |
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| 13:40:21 | pamaury | Hello, I've been fighting with the code for a few days to make the simulator simulate the storage layer too (that is, use a file as storage, just like a real device). Any thoughts on this ? Things you would like to have, etc It is not finished but it's still at a point where I can modify things. I'm also opened to suggestion to build disk images properly. For example, how to create and mount properly a disk image under linux if it has several |
| 13:40:21 | pamaury | partitions, and even harder, how to mount it when the partitions are still not created ! |
| 13:40:45 | kugel | JdGordon: aapt is in the sdk |
| 13:41:03 | kugel | it generates a java file from the res/ folder |
| 13:41:51 | kugel | I've gone through this steps once (except the keytool part) and they work but they are horribly described. unfortunately I haven't found something better |
| 13:41:52 | JdGordon | where? |
| 13:41:55 | pixelma | JdGordon: I really wonder why you ask :( |
| 13:42:21 | JdGordon | well if you acknoledged the message I would have waited |
| 13:42:30 | kugel | android-sdk-linux_86/platforms/android-[47]/tools/aapt |
| 13:43:00 | pixelma | JdGordon: I meant the whole thing |
| 13:43:16 | JdGordon | oh crud, I dont have that, is that downloaded by the eclipse plugin? |
| 13:43:47 | kugel | have you only unzipped the sdk? |
| 13:44:07 | JdGordon | pixelma: I thought we were passed this? you said you didnt se the point, I gave up tyring to convince you and commited anyway because I felt it was worth it, end of discussion |
| 13:44:10 | JdGordon | kugel: yeah |
| 13:44:37 | kugel | that's not enough :( |
| 13:45:41 | JdGordon | and I cant install the eclipse plugin, missing dependancies or something |
| 13:45:56 | kugel | JdGordon: you need to download a bit more. run <sdk>/tools/android (or launch eclipse->window->android sdk and avd manager) |
| 13:46:13 | JdGordon | this is another reason pulling the .so out of the apk would be very handy, no need for everyone to set all this up |
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| 13:47:25 | kugel | huh? |
| 13:47:26 | JdGordon | 73MB download :( not happening tonight |
| 13:47:34 | kugel | the .so file alone is insufficient |
| 13:48:09 | JdGordon | yes, but can it be downloaded by the java at first run? |
| 13:48:26 | JdGordon | and when the user wants to update |
| 13:48:28 | kugel | ah you mean that |
| 13:48:34 | pixelma | JdGordon: then why did you ask? All 3-4 answers you got (even in the forums) were like "not worth the complication", so you were the only one. I thought someone would only ask if he's unsure and then the few answers you got were almost all negative... |
| 13:48:36 | JdGordon | yes :) |
| 13:53:32 | JdGordon | kugel: I was running raaaaaaa all day today and the only issue I came across was if you wanted to exit with the back button it needed to be pressed 5+ times |
| 13:53:48 | JdGordon | are you starting a new activity too often or something? |
| 13:53:58 | JdGordon | other than that there were no real issues |
| 13:54:05 | kugel | ah, I have that too sometimes |
| 13:54:24 | kugel | I don't know what it causes |
| 13:54:54 | kugel | in my experience it works once you've used the back button (instead of the home one) to go to the home screen |
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| 14:02:43 | FlynDice | kugel: JdGordon: I think its lib/armeabi/ vs libs/armeabi as the readme says, is that correct? still struggling with eclipse here.... |
| 14:02:59 | kugel | no, libs |
| 14:03:13 | kugel | lib is another folder :) |
| 14:03:43 | FlynDice | well maybe that's the prolem then... ;) |
| 14:05:07 | kugel | gevaerts: http://www.alice-dsl.net/simonemartitz/rockbox/Rockbox-240x320.apk |
| 14:05:15 | gevaerts | Thanks! |
| 14:06:58 | * | kugel wonders why r27717 happened |
| 14:07:03 | kugel | haven't several people objected? |
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| 14:07:46 | FlynDice | kugel: so librockbox.so goes into libs/armeabi and rockbox.zip goes into lib/armeabi/libmisc.so (lib vs libs)? |
| 14:07:47 | kugel | JdGordon: I thought "doesn't add anything" was a valid reason |
| 14:07:56 | kugel | FlynDice: both into libs |
| 14:08:08 | kugel | oh the README is wrong |
| 14:08:18 | pixelma | kugel: logs, 13:44 |
| 14:08:20 | JdGordon | if that was the case then maybe, but it in fact does add lots |
| 14:08:34 | pixelma | yes, binsize |
| 14:08:44 | FlynDice | which one is wrong lib or libs... |
| 14:08:47 | pixelma | and a redundant way to do things |
| 14:08:59 | JdGordon | oh fucking hell... pixelma if you use that you will have a very big net benefit |
| 14:09:25 | pixelma | I don't see how |
| 14:09:45 | JdGordon | hardly surprising |
| 14:10:02 | pixelma | skin buffer is fixed and all my themes are way below the limit |
| 14:14:06 | pixelma | and I'd really like to see the use case where such shorter lines really gain much, even if they are possible. And about half the examples we found in our WPSs you looked at, you said "that's not the use case" and can't be written in this system |
| 14:15:03 | JdGordon | I'm obviously not going to be able to convince you so I'm not going to waste my time |
| 14:15:32 | CIA-6 | New commit by kugel (r27718): Update README a bit. |
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| 14:17:05 | * | kugel only questions the matter it was committed in |
| 14:17:08 | kugel | manner* |
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| 14:17:22 | JdGordon | sorry, I thought git svn dcommit was acceptable? |
| 14:18:01 | kugel | I thought it was usual to not do rage commits if there's at least a few objections |
| 14:18:02 | pixelma | JdGordon: well, why did you ask then at all? That's like, giving the choice and then showing the finger |
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| 14:18:22 | list_accel | Hi. Could or would you please increase the list accelaeration speed by adding a few more settings please, currently it max's at 2x10s. pretty please |
| 14:19:19 | S_a_i_n_t | list_accel: It won't happen in the main builds, you're free to get the source, make the changes, and compile a build yourself though. |
| 14:19:34 | JdGordon | pixelma: go back and look at what I asked and what was commited |
| 14:19:58 | list_accel | aha, so there's no pint in making a suggestion that would benefit everyone |
| 14:20:10 | JdGordon | someone needs to do the work |
| 14:20:20 | JdGordon | it might be a trivial change, it might not be |
| 14:20:28 | list_accel | one extra spped step... |
| 14:20:33 | list_accel | speed |
| 14:20:51 | JdGordon | and without looking at the code noone knows how easy that is to do |
| 14:20:55 | list_accel | 2x10s >> 2x15s >> 2x20s |
| 14:21:17 | JdGordon | yeah, so? |
| 14:21:24 | list_accel | later |
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| 14:21:33 | gevaerts | kugel: this phone seems to suffer from the background bug. Apart from that it seems to work fine |
| 14:21:35 | S_a_i_n_t | o/ |
| 14:21:42 | pixelma | JdGordon: you added a few things but that doesn't change the basic idea |
| 14:21:49 | kugel | gevaerts: what phone? wildfire? |
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| 14:21:53 | gevaerts | yes |
| 14:22:19 | kugel | :( |
| 14:23:25 | JdGordon | pixelma: I asked about completly changing the xd tag and breaking compatability. I didnt do that. My mind was always made up about this feature. 2 oud naysayers did nothing but make me want to do it more. |
| 14:23:51 | JdGordon | it is a useful feature and big bloody deal if it duplicates something which is already doable, it is simpler |
| 14:23:52 | JdGordon | end of discussion |
| 14:24:02 | JdGordon | if you dont want to use it then suit yourself |
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| 14:24:22 | kugel | JdGordon: 4 |
| 14:24:34 | JdGordon | 4? |
| 14:24:52 | kugel | I and gevaerts also objected |
| 14:25:08 | kugel | and the guy on the forum too |
| 14:25:12 | JdGordon | you want a medal? |
| 14:25:40 | kugel | how many people does it need for you to think about things again? |
| 14:26:50 | pixelma | "it is simpler", to me it's not. And even if I don't use it, the addition affects me |
| 14:27:26 | pixelma | it's shorter to write, that's all |
| 14:31:00 | kugel | JdGordon: have you had a look at the fms update problem? |
| 14:31:28 | JdGordon | no, I've been busy in pointless arguments |
| 14:32:13 | kugel | no, you've been busy implementing redundant features |
| 14:32:42 | pixelma | well, you could have dropped the patch - no discussion and more time to code something else |
| 14:32:56 | JdGordon | and you think that sort of comment is going to give me incentive to look into that bug? |
| 14:33:19 | kugel | it was in line with yours |
| 14:34:11 | kugel | I guess nothing gives you the incentive, because it's existing since the fms got in |
| 14:34:57 | pixelma | kugel: which one? |
| 14:36:14 | pixelma | if you mean preset name and number not updating when switching station then it worked not too long ago with the fms system |
| 14:36:21 | JdGordon | kugel: well are you going to do anything about the string numeric sorting bug? |
| 14:36:38 | JdGordon | 10030 |
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| 14:37:45 | kugel | pixelma: when I last tried the preset name/number did update but not the station art |
| 14:38:28 | S_a_i_n_t | kugel: Now the scan/preset mode does not update. |
| 14:38:46 | kugel | ah sweet |
| 14:38:48 | pixelma | I don't use station art yet, so |
| 14:39:10 | S_a_i_n_t | but, afaik Radio Art works as expected now. |
| 14:39:17 | S_a_i_n_t | I just saw it working fine in the SIM |
| 14:40:00 | S_a_i_n_t | some update problems were fixed, which somehow broke other things that *did* update. |
| 14:40:05 | kugel | on a related note, JdGordon: I think the album art is redrawn very often again |
| 14:40:13 | S_a_i_n_t | sublines were broken, but work now. |
| 14:40:58 | JdGordon | I'm pretty sure its only once when needed... any particular reason you tihnk that? |
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| 14:41:47 | kugel | I tried the 320x240 touchscreen wps, the album art was drawn over the touch regioins immediately |
| 14:42:06 | kugel | the s/wps/cabbiev2 wps/ |
| 14:42:17 | JdGordon | ok, ah yes, I tihnk i see the problem |
| 14:42:18 | * | JdGordon checks |
| 14:43:53 | kugel | that would possibly explain why the station art updates "properly" |
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| 14:45:48 | CIA-6 | New commit by jdgordon (r27719): Dont redraw the AA every single update, only when needed |
| 14:46:15 | JdGordon | hopefully that doesnt have unwanted side effects... |
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| 15:04:57 | FlynDice | kugel: Did you have any problems with debug certificates expired errors in eclipse? |
| 15:05:11 | kugel | FlynDice: no |
| 15:06:46 | JdGordon | kugel: 11234 can be closed? |
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| 16:40:44 | CIA-6 | New commit by kugel (r27720): One more get_user_file_path() fix. Don't store the user dir in config.cfg and ... |
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| 17:00:30 | freddyb | Torne: Would you look at FS #11168 and see if that's what you want? |
| 17:00:41 | Torne | freddyb: at some point, yes |
| 17:00:48 | Torne | but i don't have a lot of time for rockbox dev stuff at the moment |
| 17:00:58 | Torne | it sounds good but i need to review the implementation and test it out a bit :) |
| 17:02:44 | freddyb | Ok, it preserves LRU now and it's loads the fonts quickly, I can't think of anything else to improve it |
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| 18:37:41 | BRi7X | howdy folks |
| 18:43:32 | S_a_i_n_t | o/ |
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| 19:34:08 | kugel | I have a AA cond. viewport and a no-AA one |
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| 19:34:38 | kugel | in the no-AA one the area where the AA from the AA-vp would have been was cleared and showed no text |
| 19:35:45 | kugel | the song had no AA obviously |
| 19:36:08 | kugel | seems to be fixed by moving the AA vp definition above the definition of the non-AA vp |
| 19:36:36 | kugel | haha, no, that just breaks the AA-vp (shows no AA) |
| 19:44:24 | kugel | another problem: scrolling lines of disabled cond. vps are not removed (but stay scrolling= |
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| 20:04:14 | Temik | hello On my X5 with latest build rockbox FM screen white and above scratch |
| 20:07:35 | Temik | WPS working only cabbiev2. Other with blue screen and above scratches or default wps. |
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| 20:11:00 | bluebroth3r | please define "scratch". That sentence doesn't make sense to me otherwise. |
| 20:12:26 | Temik | Multi-colored points |
| 20:13:09 | Temik | Height of a strip of 20 points |
| 20:14:37 | Temik | Similar on incorrect addressing of bitmap |
| 20:15:24 | pixelma | is it really a problem of the build - did you try older ones now? And where did you get the build from? |
| 20:17:05 | mt | amiconn: ping |
| 20:17:13 | Temik | Before yesterday's updating used build from 16 june. Problems was not |
| 20:18:04 | Temik | Always building from svn |
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| 20:19:40 | pixelma | ah, so you are building yourself. Could you try a fill rebuild - "make clean" and then "make"? |
| 20:19:53 | Temik | yes |
| 20:20:30 | pixelma | I do not have an X5, so need to rely on your reports |
| 20:21:27 | Temik | ok I will be glad to help |
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| 20:28:11 | saratoga | mt, buschel: i repeated my 40MHz CPU clock tests on the clipv2 |
| 20:28:28 | saratoga | 16.37MHz for WMA, 22.13MHz for WMA Pro |
| 20:29:09 | saratoga | AAC-He is now "only" 70MHz, a full 20% faster |
| 20:29:17 | saratoga | verses last month |
| 20:29:36 | amiconn | mt: pong. Seen the log? |
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| 20:30:47 | amiconn | saratoga: I don't really trust ams speed tests. Something is really fishy on ams (maybe v2 only) |
| 20:31:03 | saratoga | amiconn: too good to be true? |
| 20:31:12 | mt | amiconn: yeah just checked. |
| 20:31:54 | amiconn | The greylib isr is reported to have a negative cpu consumption by test_fps.rock, i.e. updates are faster with the isr running than without |
| 20:32:22 | saratoga | FWIW I think the results are reasonable if you run the IRAM and core clock at the same speed, that way essentially all memory access is free and you get to use the fast 9E multiplier |
| 20:32:39 | amiconn | This is outright impossible. It almost looks like the core is changing clock on demand somehow, even though we don't do our cpu frequency scaling on amsv2 |
| 20:32:41 | saratoga | its of course much slower per clock at 250MHz since then you actually have memory latency :) |
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| 20:37:43 | saratoga | we need to compare PP with the clock locked at 30MHz, i bet its much faster too |
| 20:38:08 | amiconn | I don't think it will be |
| 20:38:29 | saratoga | DRAM latency will be much less (measured in clocks) |
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| 20:38:49 | amiconn | Yes, but proper iram usage and the cache will cover that pretty well |
| 20:39:10 | saratoga | PP has lousy cache, and while IRAM covers everything in MP3, it doesn't for the MDCT codecs |
| 20:39:40 | amiconn | iram and cache are both single cycle (always, i.e. they're running with core clock) |
| 20:39:42 | bertrik | battery life is already pretty good on the clip+ even when running continuously at 240 MHz |
| 20:39:55 | mt | amiconn: the "accext01" line was a mistake that I overlooked, shouldn't be there. But yeah now I see why it's wrong. |
| 20:40:05 | amiconn | Well, PP5002 cache is two-cycle, as are some blocks of PP5020 (not 5022+) iram |
| 20:40:17 | saratoga | yes but the cache is small and shared between data and instruction |
| 20:40:22 | amiconn | Still, that's independent of actual core clock |
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| 20:40:51 | saratoga | MDCT codecs typically step through >8KB of data per loop (since they use 2048 sample blocks), so they'll flush all ops from cache as well |
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| 20:41:13 | amiconn | Those buffers should really be in iram |
| 20:42:11 | amiconn | I've observed caching behaviour on pp in libdemac |
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| 20:44:43 | amiconn | The sample buffers aren't a problem, since they're usually written once, or a accessed a few times only. What really kills performance in libdemac is if the filter buffers are in dram and are larger than the cache |
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| 20:50:37 | kugel | oops |
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| 20:52:47 | Temik | pixelma, Now build r27612. Working good |
| 20:53:44 | CIA-6 | New commit by mt (r27724): Remove the comment about Coldfire asm. The current code (using fixmul16 macros) is fast enough; even faster than an equivalent CF asm version, as ... |
| 20:53:58 | CIA-6 | New commit by kugel (r27725): Revert accidental change to cabbiev2.176x220x16.wps and apply it to cabbiev2.320x480x16.wps as intended. |
| 20:55:22 | CIA-6 | r27724 build result: All green |
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| 20:56:56 | CIA-6 | r27725 build result: All green |
| 20:58:02 | mt | saratoga: Do you think we can merge libwmapro's sine window tables with mdct lookups ? |
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| 21:00:48 | simonrvn | something broke... fuze v2 isn't playing f*** all. |
| 21:01:41 | simonrvn | gonna check if it's pebkac or not |
| 21:05:27 | simonrvn | , ok, not hardware, of plays fine |
| 21:05:38 | CIA-6 | New commit by bieber (r27726): Theme Editor: Made progress bars fully movable/savable from the preview panel |
| 21:07:16 | CIA-6 | r27726 build result: All green |
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| 21:09:57 | pixelma | Temik: goo to hear |
| 21:10:29 | pixelma | oh wait, you didn't try the newest |
| 21:10:49 | simonrvn | ok, some config issue. ignore. |
| 21:10:56 | Temik | r27713? |
| 21:11:12 | Temik | r27613? |
| 21:13:17 | Temik | try r27721 today. Issue present |
| 21:13:50 | pixelma | anyway. If it was the same build that showed errors for you before, then it shows that there was a problem with your build not the code. That's good to know |
| 21:13:59 | simonrvn | wtf. theme issue prevents playing a file? |
| 21:16:24 | Temik | Ш ерштл |
| 21:18:32 | Temik | I think a problem has appeared in r 27613. Now I will try to build r27613 |
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| 21:28:44 | pixelma | Temik: do you always do full rebuilds? |
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| 21:29:04 | Temik | Yes |
| 21:29:55 | Temik | With erase dir 'build' |
| 21:35:40 | Temik | r27613 with problem |
| 21:36:13 | Temik | r27612 working good |
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| 21:41:51 | pixelma | I wonder if it's because the X5 has a greyscale remote. Did you say it's only visible with some themes? |
| 21:43:53 | Temik | Yes. Other themes not reading, calling default wps |
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| 21:45:33 | pixelma | are those themes even older - there was a change to the WPS syntax not long ago, did you update them? |
| 21:46:57 | Temik | yes Updated them 16 june |
| 21:49:05 | Temik | After updating on June, 16th themes have ceased to work. Has been compelled modify them |
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| 22:15:17 | Corruption | Is there any chance of Rockbox working on a 160 GB 6 Gen iPod Classic? |
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| 22:21:00 | saratoga | see front page |
| 22:22:28 | Corruption | I meant in future versions [I know it isn't working for it as of now]. Sorry for not being very specific. :X |
| 22:23:02 | gevaerts | It's not impossible, but nobody seems to be working on it |
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| 22:24:37 | Corruption | Thanks for letting me know that gevaerts. I guess I'll just have to get along without it. |
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| 22:26:24 | pixelma | 'Installing your build in your '' dir' ... don't think I saw that message before. That's when compiling a recent X5 sim in cygwin, clean build configured before |
| 22:26:59 | pixelma | the build seems to be working correctly though |
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| 22:35:29 | saratoga | mt: probably but i haven't looked at it carefully |
| 22:35:42 | saratoga | but i think its just a sin window, so it should be possible, at least for the smaller window sizes |
| 22:35:50 | saratoga | 4096 won't work, and 2048 may or may not |
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| 22:37:05 | amiconn | pixelma: The message used to be "Installing your build in your 'simdisk' dir" |
| 22:37:32 | pixelma | yes, that's how I remember it too |
| 22:38:04 | Hillshum | saratoga: Do those windows come from Vegas? |
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| 22:39:19 | amiconn | So something is broken, probably due to one of the raaa commits |
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| 23:11:29 | Buschel | hmm, somehow "make zip" results in non-installable .zip files... |
| 23:11:59 | Buschel | "rockbox" instead of ".rockbox"-folder, no rockbox.ipod file... |
| 23:16:27 | kugel | I think "%C?" should be an error :/ |
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| 23:24:22 | Buschel | ok, works now |
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| 23:43:51 | CIA-6 | New commit by Buschel (r27727): Minor of libwmapro on ARM. Swap operands for fixmul31, is 1% faster. |
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| 23:45:37 | CIA-6 | r27727 build result: All green |
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