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| 00:17:27 | kugel | rasher: (and 480x800 android people): http://www.alice-dsl.net/simonemartitz/rockbox/Rockbox-480x800.apk |
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| 00:27:10 | kugel | Bagder: the backdrops are huge (1.5MB for cabbiev2), and there are two of them. is that really suitable for svn? |
| 00:27:59 | Bagder | how else would we deal with them? |
| 00:28:32 | kugel | no idea, that's why I just proceeded as usual this time :) |
| 00:28:52 | Bagder | I think its fine |
| 00:29:53 | kugel | I think someone suggested to store them as png in svn. buildwps.pl could convert to png |
| 00:30:07 | kugel | but if that's all not a problem for the svn server I don't mind |
| 00:30:25 | kugel | (although I wouldn't mind png-in-core now as it comes into my mind) |
| 00:30:44 | Bagder | hehe, me neither but no it isn't a problem to the svn server |
| 00:30:52 | kugel | buildwps.pl could convert to bmp* of course |
| 00:33:08 | kugel | it would probably really a good idea to make the image decoders more codec like |
| 00:33:28 | kugel | I wonder if Unhelpful likes that idea :P |
| 00:35:30 | krazykit | he'd probably like it more if you were the one doing the work ;) |
| 00:35:34 | kugel | same goes for metadata parsers IMO |
| 00:37:04 | kugel | krazykit: actually, I think we need to poke teru about png in core :) |
| 00:39:44 | bieber | Anyone know if %ax also mirrors image positions inside a viewport? |
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| 00:44:03 | kugel | rasher: do you like it? |
| 00:45:24 | rasher | kugel: Well the skin works nicely, but the font is tiny and it doesn't actually play music, so one step forward two steps back I'm afraid |
| 00:45:30 | rasher | It just sits at 0:00 |
| 00:46:16 | kugel | rasher: have you downloaded the font package? |
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| 00:46:29 | rasher | Yeah |
| 00:46:38 | rasher | Which font is it supposed to use? |
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| 00:46:48 | kugel | 35-adobe.. |
| 00:48:26 | rasher | Weird |
| 00:52:52 | kugel | rasher: arg, the 480x800 sdl app is too big for my laptop screen, but it seems to work as intended |
| 00:53:22 | rasher | kugel: It seems to have loaded 12-Adobe-Helvetica |
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| 00:53:39 | kugel | have you tried loading cabbiev2 from the browse themes menu? |
| 00:53:52 | kugel | that worked for me just a few seconds ago |
| 00:53:59 | rasher | it's.. not there? :-| |
| 00:54:18 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 00:54:20 | kugel | oh I see, have you installed other themes? |
| 00:54:29 | rasher | Maybe I should've cleared everything first |
| 00:54:36 | rasher | I think I'll start from scratch |
| 00:54:41 | kugel | the trick is, as soon as rockbox sees a folder in the user dir, that user dir overrides the installation dir |
| 00:55:23 | kugel | e.g. if there's /sdcard/rockbox/themes it won't see /data/.../themes anymore |
| 00:55:36 | kugel | there's no fancy unionfs thing yet |
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| 00:59:59 | kugel | Bagder: ok, if it's not a problem for the svn server I would like to commit some .xcf files to make porting cabbie easier |
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| 01:00:42 | kugel | (these are usually quite big) |
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| 01:02:21 | * | kugel thinks cabbiev2 is a great default theme and can't imagine how much energy went into the whole process of making it the default (especially convincing all the people) |
| 01:03:14 | rasher | kugel: do it do it do it! |
| 01:03:21 | rasher | (commit the xcf files) |
| 01:05:56 | CIA-9 | New commit by bieber (r27795): Theme Editor: Implemented some basic viewport/text mirroring with the %ax tag |
| 01:07:56 | CIA-9 | r27795 build result: All green |
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| 01:10:00 | saratoga | amiconn: I tested PP at 30MHz, FLAC and MP3 don't really change (presumably since they mainly use IRAM), but WMA 128k gains 1.8MHz (about 8% faster) |
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| 01:12:08 | * | kugel eagerly awaits rasher's results |
| 01:12:13 | saratoga | vorbis_128k only improves by 400kHz! |
| 01:12:22 | saratoga | apparently WMA doesn't make as good use of IRAM as it ought to |
| 01:12:38 | saratoga | i had an old patch for improving it, but lost it ages ago, maybe i should look at it again |
| 01:13:08 | saratoga | oh hmm maybe WMA was optimized more since my last stock bench, better double check |
| 01:14:47 | rasher | kugel: I'm confused :\ |
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| 01:15:34 | pixelma | speaking of wma - I noticed that the wma codec throws some debug output in a "usual" simulator currently. Looks like something wasn't disabled again for the casual user - or? |
| 01:15:50 | saratoga | what does it print? |
| 01:16:14 | kugel | rasher: it should definitely work if you *uninstall* rockbox and *delete* /sdcard/rockbox (which would be starting from scratch) |
| 01:16:31 | rasher | kugel: should I not install the font pack? |
| 01:16:34 | kugel | other than that I have no idea why it wouldn't "just work" |
| 01:17:02 | kugel | the fonts that shipped themes need come with rockbox since a while, but it doesn't hurt if you install it |
| 01:17:16 | kugel | unless 35-adobe is not in it |
| 01:17:18 | * | [Saint] wonders where JdGordon has buggered off to |
| 01:18:16 | saratoga | huh WMA is 100kHz faster per clock when boosted |
| 01:18:21 | rasher | kugel: okay trying now with nothing installed |
| 01:18:30 | saratoga | weird |
| 01:18:54 | rasher | kugel: No font |
| 01:19:15 | kugel | ok, I tried a fresh install on my laptop and get sysfont as well |
| 01:19:20 | pixelma | saratoga: e.g. when starting a wma file to play it prints "**************** IN WMA.C ******************" |
| 01:19:33 | rasher | kugel: okay so I'm not going completely crazy |
| 01:20:43 | pixelma | saratoga: nothing else so far on this comp but I saw a few other messages on another box |
| 01:20:44 | CIA-9 | New commit by saratoga (r27796): Remove old debug line from wma.c. |
| 01:21:30 | * | Strife89 noticed a very interesting problem while he was away: |
| 01:21:37 | saratoga | all the other DEBUGF messages are for real errors that should never happen |
| 01:21:41 | saratoga | so they should stay |
| 01:21:50 | kugel | rasher: and I was sure you are! :P anyway, installing the font package makes it work again (I'll have a look why it breaks at the font) |
| 01:22:14 | Strife89 | Start a track from the file browser and hit Next after being in the WPS for a few seconds, while the tracks are buffering. |
| 01:22:19 | CIA-9 | r27796 build result: All green |
| 01:22:20 | Strife89 | Then prepare your ears. |
| 01:22:53 | pixelma | saratoga: wma file ended and playback goes on with an mp3 - "read_packet error 2048, errcount 1" (actually 6 times, errcount goes up respectively) |
| 01:22:53 | saratoga | its interesting that for WMA, the move from ARM7TDMI with its 32 bit wide cache and 5 cycle multiplier to ARM9E with its 64 bit cache and fast multiplier only speeds things up by ~13% |
| 01:23:06 | Strife89 | The behavior was observed in r27790. |
| 01:23:09 | saratoga | pixelma: that means you have a broken WMA file |
| 01:23:33 | saratoga | it'll print that if theres no packet where the header says there should be one |
| 01:23:41 | Strife89 | I reverted to r27759 and the problem went away. |
| 01:23:53 | saratoga | well that or maybe we have a bug in the parser |
| 01:24:57 | kugel | rasher: I started with a complete fresh empty installation dir (/usr/local/{bin,lib,share} in the sdl app) and a complete fresh user dir ($HOME/.config/rockbox.org/ in the sdl app). after extracting the fonts to $HOME/.config/rockbox.org/fonts/ cabbiev2 works as intended |
| 01:25:08 | Strife89 | Would anyone care to attempt to reproduce the problem? |
| 01:25:24 | Strife89 | I experienced it on an iPod Video (64MB of RAM). |
| 01:25:30 | rasher | kugel: Yeah, it does |
| 01:25:38 | kugel | on android: installation dir is /data/data/rockbox.org/app_rockbox (which you really can only clean by uninstalling the app), user dir is /sdcard/rockbox |
| 01:26:01 | rasher | tiny icons! |
| 01:26:07 | kugel | poke [Saint] |
| 01:26:13 | rasher | I'll have a go |
| 01:26:16 | saratoga | i wonder why the speed up for ARM9E is so small, I'd expect making single loads and all multiplication ops ~2x as fast would be worth more then 13% |
| 01:26:18 | rasher | should be reasonably easy |
| 01:26:21 | pixelma | someone with a coldfire target around currently for a quick test (possibly needs a paperclip on H100/300)? |
| 01:26:26 | kugel | rasher: I recommend turning on absolute point mode on now |
| 01:26:32 | saratoga | i wonder if we're doing something stupid that cancels out some of the gain somewhere |
| 01:26:40 | kugel | settings->system->display->touchscrene |
| 01:27:02 | saratoga | though maybe the IRAM is slower somehow then PP and that slows it down |
| 01:27:15 | saratoga | i guess there could be a delay verses PP with its custom memory controller |
| 01:29:44 | kugel | rasher: [Saint] promised to make bigger icons |
| 01:30:07 | kugel | they're still accaptable on 27-adobe but I guess not on 35-adobe |
| 01:30:30 | pixelma | saratoga: the same happened on a second wma file (they come from the same source though). I missed it before but there is another message before: "Could not read packet (requested 5974 bytes, received 5962), curpos=3328684, aborting". I never noticed before but don't listen to the 3 wma files too often in a sim... |
| 01:31:01 | pixelma | curpos is different between the 2 files, guess that's expected |
| 01:31:23 | rasher | kugel: yes well I'm impatient! :) |
| 01:31:34 | rasher | and the icons are right there.. |
| 01:31:56 | kugel | so how do you like the cabbie port? |
| 01:32:29 | rasher | Looks pretty nice |
| 01:32:58 | pixelma | saratoga: same thing with the third file. I would need to download some other test files if I should try others |
| 01:33:14 | rasher | kugel: how does one back out of a menu in point mode? |
| 01:33:28 | kugel | click the menu title |
| 01:33:32 | rasher | ah |
| 01:33:55 | saratoga | pixelma: do they skip when you get that error or keep playing |
| 01:34:08 | rasher | it even plays now |
| 01:34:50 | pixelma | it just happens at the end of the file, I can't hear an error but don't listen at a very high volume. Playback moves on to the next track as normal |
| 01:35:17 | saratoga | oh i'm wrong about WMA on AMSv2 vs. PP, its actually 28% faster |
| 01:35:41 | saratoga | that seems a little bit more reasonable, since WMA spends most of its time doing load, mul, store loops |
| 01:35:45 | Strife89 | Would anyone be willing to attempt to reproduce a bug I may be experiencing? Revision is 27790, problem has not occured in r27759. Device is an iPod Video. To reproduce, load a track through the file browser and wait a second or two after entering the WPS, then skip to the next track while the songs are still buffering. Brace your ears for noise, and note the lockup. |
| 01:36:11 | saratoga | pixelma: could be that the end of the file is clipped, or that the header is wrong, or maybe we parse it incorrectly |
| 01:36:40 | saratoga | if it doesn't skip i wouldn't worry about it |
| 01:37:08 | pixelma | no, but I'm not sure that should be in a "normal" sim output |
| 01:37:27 | saratoga | i think it should be, something is clearly wrong, either with us or the file |
| 01:37:43 | pixelma | are wma tags at the end or beginning of the file? |
| 01:37:48 | saratoga | beginning |
| 01:38:04 | pixelma | there goes that idea then |
| 01:38:14 | saratoga | its weird that the file is just a few bytes short |
| 01:38:26 | saratoga | can you upload it, MS has a nice tool for parsing ASF files |
| 01:38:58 | pixelma | all three files show the same numbers for "requested" and "received" |
| 01:38:59 | saratoga | does it make sense to have a speex test file using the normal test track, or is speex only expected to work correctly with real voice? |
| 01:39:33 | saratoga | the requested makes sense, since they'll probably all have the same packet size if they're encoded at the same time, not sure why the last packet would be smaller though |
| 01:39:46 | saratoga | AFAIK ASF has constant packet size |
| 01:40:44 | pixelma | but as I said, they come from the same source... I'm sure I already sent you one of those, back at the beginning of the WMA codec; guess you don't have it anymore though |
| 01:40:52 | saratoga | whats the file name |
| 01:44:53 | kugel | rasher: soooo, do you agree that rockbox quite nice and usable with a proper cabbiev2 port (/me needs to convince people that native widgets is not so important) |
| 01:45:02 | kugel | :) |
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| 01:48:38 | rasher | kugel: Well it's usable |
| 01:49:06 | kugel | ...but? |
| 01:49:20 | rasher | I'd much prefer the menus being android listviews though, but I do recognise that this is significantly more involved |
| 01:50:10 | * | Strife89 grabs copies of r27796. |
| 01:50:27 | kugel | what do you mean with list views? |
| 01:51:19 | rasher | I believe that's what android calls them |
| 01:51:25 | rasher | The widgets |
| 01:52:09 | CIA-9 | New commit by saratoga (r27797): Missed some more debug statements in libasf. |
| 01:53:47 | CIA-9 | r27797 build result: All green |
| 01:54:44 | rasher | What's the 4th icon in tango_small.png? |
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| 01:56:30 | pixelma | Strife89: I might try to reproduce on any of my targets but not now. First some sleep and then I also need to update if it isn't already in 27759 (I think) |
| 01:57:01 | rasher | Ah, think I'll go from the 20x20 tango in the wiki |
| 01:57:33 | Strife89 | pixelma: Fair enough; I'm attempting to reproduce on my other targets for the time being. |
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| 01:57:48 | Strife89 | I'll be using r27796 for bug testing. |
| 01:57:56 | kugel | rasher: looks like a play icon to me |
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| 02:00:37 | kugel | rasher: IMO our lists lack only 2 things: kinetic scrolling and a no-selection-state |
| 02:01:02 | kugel | (maybe also a minimum height to make items clickable easily) |
| 02:01:36 | [Saint] | JdGordon|: Are you able to have a look at the bug with %t(timeout) please? |
| 02:01:42 | [Saint] | It's really bloody annoying. |
| 02:02:00 | rasher | kugel: Still, I'd prefer it to feel like an android app rather than Rockbox shoehorned into Android |
| 02:02:24 | Strife89 | [Saint]: The background that should be used in the WPS only is being used in the SBS. :/ |
| 02:02:42 | Strife89 | r27796 |
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| 02:03:05 | [Saint] | If you're not aware of it, if you missed it in the logs, the timeout is reverting to default no matter what it is set to. |
| 02:03:10 | Strife89 | On the plus side, I can't seem to reproduce the playback bug. |
| 02:03:10 | [Saint] | JdGordon|: ^ |
| 02:03:14 | kugel | rasher: unfortunately I don't feel that way |
| 02:03:21 | Strife89 | ... Yet. |
| 02:03:50 | [Saint] | Strife89: Thay're actually two different backgrounds...but what do you mean? |
| 02:03:58 | [Saint] | The background in the wps is not loading? |
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| 02:04:08 | [Saint] | *they're |
| 02:04:13 | JdGordon| | [Saint]: bugs go in the tracker |
| 02:04:31 | Strife89 | [Saint]: The background for the WPS (which has the "empty" progress bar) is being used in the SBS. |
| 02:04:38 | [Saint] | So they can sit there for ages and not get looked at? :P |
| 02:05:02 | [Saint] | Strife89: Oh.....*weird* |
| 02:06:06 | [Saint] | JdGordon|: No offence, but I have better luck (in my experience) asking you to look at something personally....UI bugs just seem to sit in the tracker doing nothing. |
| 02:06:38 | JdGordon| | friday morning while im at work means abosulty no chance of even being looked at till sat night (more likely sunday evening) |
| 02:07:09 | [Saint] | I wasn't saying "could you look at it right now", I do know you're at work. |
| 02:07:14 | [Saint] | Just making you aware of it. |
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| 02:09:26 | kugel | rasher: ok, one more try: have you made the scrollbar bigger (and moved to the right)? our scrollbar is much better than the native android one IMO |
| 02:09:42 | JdGordon| | and I was saying that by then Assuming I dont have anything else I'd rather work on, there is a good chance I will forget about it unless it is starred in my flayspray email filter |
| 02:10:41 | rasher | kugel: how? |
| 02:10:59 | kugel | in theme settings |
| 02:11:58 | rasher | Honestly, it feels clumsy to me |
| 02:12:26 | kugel | look-wise or usability-wise? |
| 02:13:01 | [Saint] | Strife89: I load the backdrop for the menus with the theme .cfg. |
| 02:13:14 | [Saint] | I'll try loading it with the .sbs and see what happens. |
| 02:13:27 | [Saint] | That *totally* shouldn't be happening. |
| 02:13:41 | rasher | kugel: usability wise |
| 02:13:50 | Strife89 | [Saint]: I loaded the theme the "normal" way (Browse Theme Files, select iLike in the list). |
| 02:13:51 | kugel | what's wrong with it? |
| 02:14:03 | * | JdGordon| agrees 100% with rasher |
| 02:14:07 | [Saint] | Let me get it straight, the backdrop used in the WPS is being loaded for the menus? |
| 02:14:11 | [Saint] | Strife89; They way you load it shouldn;t matter. |
| 02:14:28 | rasher | kugel: Hard to say for sure. It just feels like it's only sort of reacting to what I do |
| 02:14:29 | JdGordon| | someone needs to make the java ui work with androids widgets |
| 02:14:33 | Strife89 | [Saint]: Yes to your question. |
| 02:14:41 | [Saint] | I'm talking about the way the theme itself loads its backdrop for the menus. |
| 02:14:45 | Strife89 | [Saint]: Again, r27796; I JUST noticed. |
| 02:14:47 | kugel | I mean, you can touch the bar and move the entire list with it or simply click on empty space to jump to the location. on android the scrollbar is in most situations a mere indicator |
| 02:14:56 | [Saint] | Strife89: That is *really* weird. |
| 02:15:42 | [Saint] | perhaps it is getting confused as they are both named the same...but, they are in totally different locations...and the theme .cfg points to the correct file. |
| 02:15:51 | rasher | kugel: but it feels like I'm poking at it to coax it into doing what I want, rather than simply controlling it directly |
| 02:15:59 | [Saint] | It never used to do this...right? |
| 02:16:03 | [Saint] | Strife89: ^ |
| 02:16:20 | [Saint] | ie. you updated, and...boom? |
| 02:16:32 | * | kugel can't parse that |
| 02:16:33 | Strife89 | [Saint]: I didn't see it do this until just a few minutes ago, when I updated my copy of the build. |
| 02:16:58 | [Saint] | Strife89: Do you have an old build lying around? |
| 02:17:05 | [Saint] | the one you were running? |
| 02:17:06 | Strife89 | [Saint]: Yes, thankfully. |
| 02:17:21 | Strife89 | I mass-archived my .rockbox folders from my DAPs. |
| 02:17:23 | [Saint] | Does reverting fix the theme? |
| 02:17:38 | Strife89 | [Saint]: Let me get back to you on that. |
| 02:17:54 | [Saint] | Thankyou, it would be nice to know a GOOD/BAD revision. |
| 02:19:19 | Strife89 | Why, Windows, why? |
| 02:19:31 | Strife89 | *channel shift* |
| 02:20:06 | rasher | kugel: well it doesn't feel like it's really responding to what I'm doing |
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| 02:22:06 | Strife89 | [Saint]: The problem does NOT occur in r27759. |
| 02:22:31 | kugel | rasher: strange, I cannot really confirm that. I will ask some mates in my uni (one has a galaxy s) after the break |
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| 02:23:55 | Strife89 | Copying r27796 back over, reboot, and .... |
| 02:24:05 | Strife89 | Presto, problem's back. |
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| 02:34:02 | [Saint] | Strife89: So, 27759 == GOOD, 27796 == BAD? |
| 02:34:19 | [Saint] | Woops... |
| 02:34:27 | Strife89 | [Saint]: So it seems ... but I'm not sure where the problem begins. |
| 02:34:27 | * | [Saint] wonders what happened there. |
| 02:34:44 | Strife89 | Wait, you did that? |
| 02:34:48 | [Saint] | well, at least there is a range I can work from. |
| 02:34:55 | Strife89 | I thought XChat was bugging out on me. XD |
| 02:35:09 | [Saint] | Apparently I triggered some kind of flood somehow. |
| 02:35:23 | * | [Saint] shrugs |
| 02:36:05 | [Saint] | It narrows it to 35 revisions...which isn't so bad I guess. |
| 02:36:20 | [Saint] | If you're able to narrow it any further, it'd be appreciated. |
| 02:36:46 | [Saint] | (but, not necessary...I can do it if need be, just not right now) |
| 02:38:40 | Strife89 | I'll attempt it in a bit; right now, I'm trying to rebuild my .rockbox folders from scratch. |
| 02:39:24 | kugel | [Saint]: http://www.rockbox.org/since-4weeks.html shows 3 related commits, but I hadn't considered any of the them to be the cause |
| 02:39:41 | bieber | [Saint]: Does %ax flip image coordinates? |
| 02:40:08 | [Saint] | bieber: No. |
| 02:40:26 | [Saint] | Only %V, %Vl, and %Cl IIUC |
| 02:40:48 | [Saint] | and alignment tags inside %V and %Vl |
| 02:41:39 | JdGordon| | UMM.... |
| 02:41:51 | [Saint] | Oh....wait, if an image is called inside a viewport, then it will mirror its coordinates also. |
| 02:41:57 | [Saint] | is that what you're asking? |
| 02:42:01 | bieber | Yeah |
| 02:42:02 | [Saint] | bieber: ^ |
| 02:42:07 | [Saint] | Ah, then yes. |
| 02:42:07 | JdGordon| | ax will set a viewport to align right which means that 0,0 will be the top *RIGHT* corner not left |
| 02:42:24 | bieber | Oh, okay |
| 02:42:35 | [Saint] | JdGordon|: It does a bit more than that. |
| 02:42:43 | JdGordon| | bieber: I made your job abit harder last night :) Do you handle the list icons at all yet? |
| 02:43:23 | bieber | So now, if it does that, then what is the point of putting a %ax before a %Cl? |
| 02:43:27 | bieber | JdGordon|: List icons? |
| 02:43:42 | JdGordon| | I'm not sure %Cl need ax |
| 02:43:53 | JdGordon| | the iconset loaded for the lists |
| 02:44:02 | JdGordon| | I made that dislkayeable with the %xd tag |
| 02:44:11 | JdGordon| | displayable* |
| 02:44:23 | bieber | I don't know anything about the iconsets |
| 02:44:32 | bieber | What's the syntax for it? |
| 02:44:45 | JdGordon| | its loaded in the cfg |
| 02:44:54 | [Saint] | bieber: %ax before %Cl will swap the position the AA is loaded. Just like it would an image. |
| 02:45:05 | JdGordon| | I made it so if the flename for %xl is __list_icons__ it uses that image strip. |
| 02:45:10 | [Saint] | AA isn;t necessarily called in an AA sized/shaped viewport |
| 02:45:57 | [Saint] | But, there doesn't seem to be *much* point to it, no. |
| 02:46:06 | [Saint] | %V and %Vl are the important ones. |
| 02:46:35 | bieber | Okay, so just look for the special filename __list_icons__ and transform it into the settings value for the list iconset? |
| 02:46:38 | bieber | What's the key for that? |
| 02:49:32 | [Saint] | kugel: The theme .cfg loads a backdrop from .rockbox/backdrops/Backdrop.bmp, the .wps and .fms load a backdrop from .rockbox/wps/iLike/Backdrop.bmp, *somehow* the .sbs is loading the backdrop from .rockbox/wps/iLike/Backdrop.bmp instead....despite the fact that the theme .cfg clearly points to the correct path/file. |
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| 02:52:20 | S_a_i_n_t | I _think_ it's getting all messed up because they share the same name "Backdrop.bmp", but...this is only a recent thing. |
| 02:52:28 | S_a_i_n_t | Eeeeek, fell off the internet. |
| 02:52:45 | S_a_i_n_t | This backdrop loading bug/thing/fuckup is certainly a weird one. |
| 02:53:39 | S_a_i_n_t | Strife89: has narrowed the revisions somewhat...I haven't looked at the range yet though. |
| 02:53:45 | kugel | [Saint]: that's most likely my fault, I'll have alook tomorrow |
| 02:53:57 | S_a_i_n_t | Is there any one commit that stands out as a potential cause of this? |
| 02:54:15 | kugel | r27791 I think |
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| 02:54:25 | S_a_i_n_t | I'll have a look, thanks. |
| 02:54:46 | S_a_i_n_t | kugel: Is it because the images share the same name? |
| 02:54:54 | kugel | no idea yet |
| 02:55:11 | kugel | it's just a very related commit so |
| 02:55:52 | S_a_i_n_t | Aha. I'll try to see if I can work around it for now by loading the backdrop from inside the wps/iLike folder with the .sbs instead of the theme .cfg |
| 02:56:22 | S_a_i_n_t | I'll have to change the filename, but, that is a non-issue |
| 02:56:40 | kugel | or you are patient until I had a look :p |
| 02:56:54 | kugel | that's up to you though :) |
| 02:57:09 | S_a_i_n_t | I know, regardless if a bug can/can't be fixed I like to know I have alternate ways of doing things ;) |
| 02:57:17 | S_a_i_n_t | It gives me excuses to experiment :P |
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| 02:59:23 | S_a_i_n_t | Strife89: If you'd like, or if you can...you could try building 27790 and see if that revision is good, and, if it is try building 27791 and see if it is bad. |
| 02:59:51 | Strife89 | S_a_i_n_t: I would, but I haven't set up a build environment on this machine yet. :( |
| 02:59:58 | S_a_i_n_t | No worries if you can't though, I could do it later this evening. |
| 03:00 |
| 03:00:08 | Strife89 | Which I want to do anyway, to patch and compile with FS #8806. |
| 03:00:09 | S_a_i_n_t | Ok, no worries. |
| 03:07:09 | JdGordon| | S_a_i_n_t: is the sbs and wps using the same theme name? |
| 03:07:40 | JdGordon| | are they both iLike.wps and iLike.sbs? |
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| 03:10:26 | Strife89 | I understand that the current cygwin setup instructions are not up to date .... Can I get some clarity on what exactly should be done? |
| 03:10:42 | JdGordon| | install the linux vm :) |
| 03:14:29 | saratoga | kugel: for what its worth, the native android list things have the advantage of being pretty well optimized (e.g. NEON acceleration in the drivers) whereas our drawing code is not |
| 03:14:52 | saratoga | furthermore, they're supposedly going to be GPU/DSP rendered at some point in future releases |
| 03:15:13 | saratoga | so in the long term there might be significant advantages |
| 03:15:31 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon|: Yes. |
| 03:15:37 | S_a_i_n_t | Of course |
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| 03:17:36 | JdGordon| | S_a_i_n_t: ah never mind, read the other half of the discussion... seems you have the answer? |
| 03:17:48 | S_a_i_n_t | Nup. |
| 03:19:59 | rasher | Hm, where's the default font and icons set? And the size of the icons buffer? |
| 03:21:01 | rasher | Okay, first question figured out |
| 03:21:10 | rasher | settings_list.c |
| 03:21:35 | JdGordon| | icons are current hard coded to have ebnough space for 24x24 iirc |
| 03:21:46 | JdGordon| | apps/gui/icon.h probably |
| 03:21:51 | JdGordon| | or icon.c |
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| 03:24:51 | rasher | yeah, icon.c |
| 03:24:52 | rasher | Thanks |
| 03:27:37 | JdGordon| | thats another buffer which we should get directly from the host eventually |
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| 04:05:40 | CIA-9 | New commit by bieber (r27798): Theme Editor: Altered implementation of %ax tag so that viewport now simply mirrors itself across the screen. |
| 04:07:33 | CIA-9 | r27798 build result: All green |
| 04:13:16 | Strife89 | Some feedback I collected. http://pastebin.com/H3vFWdCQ |
| 04:16:30 | bieber | JdGordon|: When loading the icons list in a %xd, is there an implied number of images in the strip, or does the user still specify it explicitly? |
| 04:16:48 | JdGordon| | implied |
| 04:17:03 | JdGordon| | 32+ |
| 04:17:37 | JdGordon| | maybe just draw a solid block of fontheight*font_height for the image |
| 04:17:41 | Strife89 | v2 Fuzes' OF have a version number that starts with 03., right? |
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| 04:20:18 | Strife89 | Crap, I can't find the info and I could use an answer fast |
| 04:20:19 | mc2739 | Strife89: no, Fuzev2 OF is 02. |
| 04:20:23 | Strife89 | Ah. |
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| 04:22:12 | bieber | JdGordon|: Do you mean the height of the default font? |
| 04:22:29 | JdGordon| | no, the height of the users font choice |
| 04:23:04 | JdGordon| | those icon sizes are guessed and they cant be taller than the font height |
| 04:23:14 | JdGordon| | and they are usually square |
| 04:23:32 | bieber | As in the font of the current viewport, or is that a device setting? |
| 04:23:48 | bieber | Hmm, so I should be safe if I just use the width of the image as the height? |
| 04:23:51 | JdGordon| | the font being used of the ui viewport |
| 04:24:14 | JdGordon| | ? |
| 04:24:30 | bieber | The width of the bitmap strip, that is, as the height of each individual icon |
| 04:25:08 | JdGordon| | yes |
| 04:25:11 | JdGordon| | no |
| 04:25:13 | enthdegree | Hello, all. I know i've probably asked this before, but how are joke apps like rockblox1d included in favor of a usable dictionary app? Will rockbox provide a repository precompiled binaries for plugins in the future? |
| 04:25:14 | JdGordon| | well... |
| 04:27:17 | enthdegree | Also there are some excellent patches like the antialiasing patch that are not included in the vanilla rockbox build. To get them you have to cross-compile rockbox to ARM on a laptop or something which isn't that hard, ( Very well documented ) but it takes a while and might scare some people away. :P |
| 04:28:15 | JdGordon| | enthdegree: well, developers only have a limited amount of time, for a plugin to get commited it needs a dev to have the time/energy/motivation to get it in |
| 04:28:34 | JdGordon| | then there are the patches which are not wanted (mabe in their current form), like that aa patch |
| 04:29:02 | bieber | JdGordon|: Is "iconset" the config key I want for the list icons? |
| 04:29:12 | JdGordon| | I think so |
| 04:29:21 | JdGordon| | I wouldnt really bother loading it if you dont want |
| 04:29:40 | bieber | Eh, may as well |
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| 04:29:53 | enthdegree | That is true. |
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| 04:38:47 | Strife89 | Is the automated method usable for the v2 Fuzes? |
| 04:38:58 | Strife89 | JdGordon|: Ping. |
| 04:39:08 | JdGordon| | buuuuuuUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrp |
| 04:39:21 | Strife89 | .... Nice. |
| 04:39:51 | Strife89 | JdGordon|, do you have a few minutes? |
| 04:40:48 | JdGordon| | yeah, not doing very much atm |
| 04:41:22 | Strife89 | JdGordon|: Vixie is interested in putting Rockbox on their Fuze v2. |
| 04:41:29 | * | Vixie blush. |
| 04:41:55 | Strife89 | And I've not used the automated method for that model. |
| 04:42:10 | * | Strife89 used the manual method for a Fuze v1. |
| 04:42:28 | JdGordon| | automated should just work |
| 04:42:50 | Strife89 | Also, IIRC Vixie is using Ubuntu. |
| 04:42:56 | Vixie | Right |
| 04:43:40 | Vixie | Okay, just installed the bootloader. ... I think. |
| 04:43:44 | Strife89 | JdGordon|: Doesn't rbutil automatically download the files needed to make the bootloader? |
| 04:43:52 | JdGordon| | no idea |
| 04:43:52 | Strife89 | For the Fuzes, I mean. |
| 04:44:33 | Strife89 | For the Fuzes it's more of a modded OF than a "normal" bootloader. |
| 04:45:01 | Strife89 | Vixie: After the bootloader's installed, installing the build is cake (manually or not). |
| 04:45:21 | Vixie | okay, so |
| 04:45:33 | Vixie | do I want to install the fonts package, et al, prior to actually installing it on my device? |
| 04:45:38 | Vixie | or after? |
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| 04:46:18 | Strife89 | Either way works for the extras (fonts, themes, etc.). |
| 04:46:44 | Strife89 | They're essentially just a bunch of files, formal installation isn't necessary. |
| 04:46:46 | Vixie | Any recommendation? |
| 04:47:18 | Vixie | Oh |
| 04:47:25 | Strife89 | IMO, fool around with Rockbox for a bit, decide whether you want to keep it, and then move on to the extras. |
| 04:47:27 | Vixie | Apparently I have to install Rockbox first regardless |
| 04:47:46 | Strife89 | Technically yes. :) |
| 04:48:56 | Strife89 | Hmm, the v2 Fuzes don't support USB yet. |
| 04:49:03 | Vixie | ... eep? |
| 04:49:10 | Strife89 | If you plug in the cable, it'll reboot to the OF. |
| 04:49:16 | Strife89 | So you can charge and transfer data. |
| 04:49:29 | Vixie | So... can I not do it, then...? |
| 04:49:51 | Strife89 | Vixie: You can boot into the OF at any time by holding Prev. while turning on the power. |
| 04:49:56 | Strife89 | Vixie: ? |
| 04:50:27 | Vixie | I thought you said it doesn't support USB? |
| 04:50:29 | * | Vixie is a bit lost. |
| 04:50:35 | Strife89 | Vixie: Just Rockbox itself. |
| 04:50:50 | Vixie | So, can I not get Rockbox onto it, then? |
| 04:50:57 | Strife89 | Vixie: As long as your Fuze is in the original firmware (OF), USB is availible. |
| 04:51:02 | Vixie | Oh |
| 04:51:04 | Vixie | Okay |
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| 04:51:20 | Vixie | ...so, wait |
| 04:51:33 | Vixie | I wouldn't be able to transfer music that way, though? |
| 04:51:45 | Strife89 | Vixie: But Rockbox itself currently does not support data transfers - so if you try to plug it into the computer, it reboots into the OF. |
| 04:51:56 | Strife89 | Hence allowing you to transfer music, etc. |
| 04:52:01 | Vixie | So it is not a terribly huge deal, then |
| 04:52:11 | Strife89 | Pretty much, just a tad annoying. :) |
| 04:52:26 | Strife89 | I lived with it on my Sansa c250 for almost a year. :P |
| 04:54:02 | Vixie | leave "Don't use locally cached copy" unchecked? |
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| 04:54:40 | Strife89 | Vixie: Yeah, I believe so, but lemme ask. |
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| 04:54:49 | Strife89 | pixelma, did you catch the question? |
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| 04:55:28 | Strife89 | Vixie: I assume it's preparing to download the build? |
| 04:55:36 | Vixie | Yeah |
| 04:55:46 | Strife89 | Yeah, leave that box unchecked, then. |
| 04:56:49 | Strife89 | Might come in handy if you're ever stuck offline. |
| 04:56:59 | Vixie | "Not enough disk space." ohboy |
| 04:57:03 | Strife89 | :/ |
| 04:57:08 | Vixie | should I.. wipe it first? |
| 04:57:17 | Strife89 | Delete a song or two. |
| 04:58:10 | Strife89 | Vixie: Were you putting songs on the Fuze with MSC or MTP? |
| 04:58:36 | Vixie | eh? |
| 04:58:50 | Vixie | I was putting them on with Rhythmbox? .-.; |
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| 04:58:53 | Strife89 | Vixie: You know ths USB Mode option in the OF? |
| 04:59:05 | Strife89 | Which setting was it on? |
| 04:59:09 | Vixie | I don't... remember |
| 04:59:15 | Strife89 | Hmm. |
| 04:59:15 | Vixie | that doesn't sound familiar at all |
| 04:59:24 | Vixie | okay well I deleted a few things |
| 04:59:42 | Strife89 | Hmmm .... Try to install the build again and we'll go from there. |
| 05:00 |
| 05:00:00 | Vixie | Still not enough space |
| 05:00:16 | Strife89 | Hmmm. |
| 05:00:29 | Strife89 | I suspect MTP mode is to blame. |
| 05:00:55 | Vixie | So should I unplug it and check? |
| 05:01:02 | Strife89 | Hmmm. |
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| 05:01:31 | Strife89 | The bootloader is installed, so further installation is cake. |
| 05:01:46 | Vixie | Do so, then? |
| 05:01:48 | Strife89 | Stop the process for now and safely unmount the Fuze, then disconnect it. |
| 05:03:01 | Vixie | ... okay |
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| 05:03:08 | Vixie | I try to turn it on, and it says not enough space |
| 05:03:10 | Vixie | and shuts off |
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| 05:03:50 | Strife89 | Vixie: Hmm, wasn't expecting that. |
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| 05:05:25 | Vixie | "not enough space for music DB. please free 90MB" |
| 05:05:35 | mc2739 | Vixie: what happens if you plug in the USB cable now? |
| 05:05:55 | Vixie | Nautilus opens |
| 05:06:18 | Vixie | so I can still go through the folders and stuff |
| 05:06:21 | Vixie | but I deleted all the music |
| 05:06:50 | Strife89 | Vixie: Try connecting the cable while the Fuze is off, then disconnect it when you see the Fuze logo. |
| 05:07:27 | Vixie | same |
| 05:08:00 | Vixie | error message, that is |
| 05:09:34 | Strife89 | Hmmmm. |
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| 05:10:47 | Strife89 | mc2739: IIRC there's a way to reset the OF at boottime, but I forget the method. Any ideas? |
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| 05:12:10 | Vixie | Should I just format it? |
| 05:12:15 | mc2739 | Vixie: try this: with power off, switch hold on, press and hold the left button (|<<) and then plug in the USB |
| 05:12:20 | Vixie | did that |
| 05:13:14 | G4Oblivion | For the Nano 2G problems I would check commits from june 20th - 21st. June 20th - 21st is when this started happening. |
| 05:13:24 | mc2739 | now run a disk check - fsck.vfat (I think) |
| 05:13:38 | Vixie | er... how? .-. |
| 05:13:38 | G4Oblivion | I don't having anything setup right now to compile/revert. Just giving a heads up. |
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| 05:14:28 | Strife89 | sudo fsck.vfat /media/SANSAFUZE I think |
| 05:15:31 | Vixie | no such directory |
| 05:15:42 | Vixie | looks like it might be 0123-4567 |
| 05:16:05 | Strife89 | mc2739: Any arguments needed? |
| 05:16:12 | Vixie | vixie@Falda:~$ sudo fsck.vfat /media/0123-4567 |
| 05:16:13 | Vixie | dosfsck 3.0.7, 24 Dec 2009, FAT32, LFN |
| 05:16:13 | Vixie | Read 512 bytes at 0:Is a directory |
| 05:16:31 | mc2739 | Fuze needs to be unmounted |
| 05:16:57 | JdGordon| | S_a_i_n_t: wanna try a quick change for the backdrop snafu? |
| 05:17:35 | Strife89 | Vixie: sudo umount /dev/sdb |
| 05:17:46 | Strife89 | Vixie: Then run the fsck command again. |
| 05:18:01 | Strife89 | I'm assuming with the /dev/sdb bit. |
| 05:18:05 | Vixie | yeah |
| 05:18:11 | Vixie | I'm not... sure what it actually is |
| 05:18:13 | Strife89 | JdGordon|: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1905158/dump%20100314-092002.bmp |
| 05:18:33 | Vixie | umount: /dev/sdb: not found |
| 05:18:35 | JdGordon| | coool! |
| 05:18:39 | Strife89 | Vixie: Open System Monitor and look at the File Systems (or was it Resources?) tab. |
| 05:18:45 | Strife89 | Vixie: It'll tell you there. |
| 05:18:53 | JdGordon| | Strife89: if you can do builds there is a quick patch which prob fixes that |
| 05:18:58 | Vixie | aha, /sdc |
| 05:19:03 | Vixie | okay |
| 05:19:05 | Vixie | should be unmounted |
| 05:19:14 | Vixie | it poofed under File Systems |
| 05:19:23 | Vixie | run disk check again? |
| 05:19:29 | Strife89 | JdGordon|: I was working on getting a cygwin environment set up. |
| 05:19:31 | Strife89 | Vixie: Yeah. |
| 05:20:02 | Strife89 | JdGordon|: But yeah, that looks pretty odd. |
| 05:20:34 | JdGordon| | oh crud.. I dont even have a box I can ssh into from here anyway :/ |
| 05:20:40 | Strife89 | JdGordon|: How much do you know about working with cygwin? |
| 05:20:59 | JdGordon| | enough to not use it :) |
| 05:21:04 | Strife89 | 'Cause I set it up and wound up with a Home directory with a fucking space in it. |
| 05:21:12 | Vixie | Strife89: ... directory not found |
| 05:21:22 | Strife89 | Which is fatal to any build environment. |
| 05:21:35 | Strife89 | Vixie: Ah, I'm an idiot. Here .... : |
| 05:21:56 | Strife89 | Vixie: sudo fsck.vfat /dev/sdc |
| 05:22:32 | Vixie | FATs differ but appear to be intact. Use which FAT ? |
| 05:22:32 | Vixie | 1) Use first FAT |
| 05:22:32 | Vixie | 2) Use second FAT |
| 05:22:52 | mc2739 | take your pick |
| 05:22:56 | Vixie | does it matter? |
| 05:23:02 | Strife89 | Select one and we'll go from there. |
| 05:23:09 | Strife89 | First one if you can't decide. |
| 05:23:13 | Vixie | Guess I'll do 1, then |
| 05:23:18 | JdGordon| | mc2739: are you getting that backdrop bug? |
| 05:23:20 | mc2739 | no, you have a 50/50 chance of picking the right one |
| 05:23:41 | mc2739 | JdGordon|: no, haven't updated yet |
| 05:23:49 | Vixie | Reclaimed 10725 unused c |
| 05:23:49 | Vixie | Free cluster summary wro |
| 05:23:49 | Vixie | 1) Correct |
| 05:23:49 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Vixie |
| 05:23:49 | Vixie | 2) Don't correct |
| 05:23:51 | Vixie | assuming 1 here |
| 05:23:55 | mc2739 | yes |
| 05:24:07 | Vixie | okay |
| 05:24:10 | JdGordon| | mc2739: can you? and then can you check a one word patch? (and commit it?) |
| 05:24:18 | mc2739 | sure |
| 05:24:20 | Strife89 | JdGordon|: Wait, so that background thing is a bug y'all are working on ATM? |
| 05:24:31 | Vixie | went back to prompt now; try seeing if I get the error message now? |
| 05:24:47 | Strife89 | Vixie: Never hurts to scan again. :) |
| 05:24:51 | JdGordon| | http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/apps/gui/skin_engine/skin_backdrops.c?r1=27790;r2=27791;pathrev=27791 the bottom change is wrong, but backdrop_dir back to bmpdir and it shold fix it |
| 05:24:56 | Vixie | okay, then |
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| 05:25:13 | Vixie | Hunh |
| 05:25:15 | JdGordon| | Strife89: no, but im not doing anything and the change seems to be identified |
| 05:25:16 | Vixie | same exact thing |
| 05:25:18 | Strife89 | Vixie: Just to make sure there aren't any other issues. |
| 05:25:39 | Strife89 | Vixie: Meaning? |
| 05:25:50 | Strife89 | Vixie: Two FATs? |
| 05:26:00 | Vixie | yes, and then same thing when I say 1 |
| 05:26:35 | Strife89 | Continue with the run, and when it finishes, close the terminal and disconnect the Fuze. |
| 05:27:04 | Vixie | Same error message |
| 05:27:15 | Strife89 | =/ |
| 05:27:38 | Strife89 | Filesystem problems rear their ugly head. |
| 05:28:04 | Vixie | I don't understand if there's nothing on it... |
| 05:28:05 | Strife89 | Just so happens that we fleshed 'em out during this install. |
| 05:28:37 | Vixie | ... hm |
| 05:28:43 | Strife89 | mc2739: Any ideas? My tired brain's running dry. |
| 05:28:45 | Vixie | the .trash folder is still full |
| 05:29:02 | Strife89 | Nuke it. |
| 05:29:43 | Vixie | "Firmware upgrades in progress." |
| 05:29:51 | Strife89 | Ah, there we go. |
| 05:29:55 | Strife89 | Leave it be for a bit. |
| 05:30:22 | Strife89 | The bootloader wasn't even installed yet - you didn't have enough space! |
| 05:30:59 | Strife89 | Perhaps this should be alluded to in the manual - if not rbutil itself. |
| 05:31:38 | Strife89 | Vixie: Don't worry, it's not usually this troublesome to install Rockbox. >.< |
| 05:32:01 | Strife89 | Vixie: And this bit is basically a one-time deal; upgrading your copy of Rockbox takes all of 30 seconds. |
| 05:32:19 | Vixie | should it be plugged in right now? (it's not) |
| 05:32:26 | Strife89 | No. |
| 05:32:30 | Strife89 | Wait for it to reboot. |
| 05:32:37 | Vixie | well, it's just... off right now |
| 05:32:44 | Strife89 | Turn it on real quick. |
| 05:32:58 | Strife89 | If you get an error message, reboot and hold left. |
| 05:33:38 | mc2739 | JdGordon|: patch? |
| 05:33:55 | JdGordon| | http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/apps/gui/skin_engine/skin_backdrops.c?r1=27790;r2=27791;pathrev=27791 the bottom change is wrong, put backdrop_dir back to bmpdir and it shold fix it |
| 05:34:03 | Vixie | okay |
| 05:34:09 | Vixie | just got the "refreshing your media" message |
| 05:34:13 | Vixie | and everything's normal |
| 05:34:13 | Strife89 | Vixie: \o/ |
| 05:34:20 | Strife89 | Vixie: Okay, we're almost there, then. |
| 05:34:26 | Vixie | try installing again, then? |
| 05:34:45 | Strife89 | Vixie: Might as well introduce you to manual updates. |
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| 05:34:52 | Strife89 | They're easy enough. |
| 05:35:06 | Strife89 | You just unzip a folder and then copy it to the root of the Fuze. |
| 05:35:15 | Strife89 | Vixie: First, let's check the USB mode. |
| 05:36:03 | Strife89 | Vixie: Once the Database Refresh completes, go to Settings, then System Settings. |
| 05:36:03 | Vixie | okay, plugged it in |
| 05:36:24 | Vixie | oh |
| 05:36:29 | Vixie | haha right |
| 05:36:40 | Strife89 | Vixie: Then, scroll to USB Mode, and choose MSC. |
| 05:36:46 | Vixie | it's already on MSC |
| 05:36:57 | Strife89 | Ah. |
| 05:37:01 | Strife89 | Good, then. :) |
| 05:37:45 | Strife89 | Vixie: Plug in the Fuze and go to this page: http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml |
| 05:38:30 | Vixie | pick latest/ |
| 05:38:31 | Vixie | *? |
| 05:38:38 | Strife89 | Vixie: Normally, I'd have you get the latest, but ... |
| 05:38:45 | Vixie | manual, then? |
| 05:39:05 | Strife89 | Vixie: That's the instruction manual. :) |
| 05:39:12 | Strife89 | Get it anyway for reading. |
| 05:39:17 | Vixie | thank you, English language |
| 05:39:25 | Strife89 | Vixie: Get this .zip for now. http://download.rockbox.org/daily/sansafuzev2/rockbox-sansafuzev2-20100810.zip |
| 05:40:01 | Strife89 | Vixie: Extract the zip to your Fuze (or extract it to the computer and then copy the .rockbox folder). |
| 05:40:31 | Strife89 | Vixie: A folder named .rockbox should be in your Fuze's root directory. |
| 05:41:24 | Strife89 | Vixie: Finally, make a music folder and put all your music in it. How you arrange it, the folder name, etc., does not matter. |
| 05:41:53 | Strife89 | Just don't put your music in .rockbox. :) |
| 05:43:04 | Strife89 | Once you've done that, safely unmount the Fuze, unplug it, and reboot, without pressing Left. |
| 05:43:45 | Vixie | okay, there's already the default "MUSIC" |
| 05:43:47 | Vixie | should I just leave it? |
| 05:44:04 | Strife89 | You can if you want, but it's hidden by default. |
| 05:44:20 | Strife89 | It's the OF's fault for it being hidden. |
| 05:44:29 | Vixie | it's... not hidden?... |
| 05:44:41 | Vixie | the only default hidden folder was ".trash-1000" |
| 05:44:42 | Strife89 | It doesn't appear to be hidden in Linux. |
| 05:44:56 | Strife89 | In Windows, and therefore Rockbox, however, it IS hidden. |
| 05:45:21 | Vixie | so, uh, does that not matter for me, then? |
| 05:45:35 | Strife89 | If you still want to put your music there, that's fine. |
| 05:45:48 | Vixie | it wouldn't make a difference? |
| 05:45:53 | Vixie | ... oh wait |
| 05:45:53 | Strife89 | Just enable "Show all files" for the file browser once you're in Rockbox. |
| 05:45:58 | Vixie | Ah, now I see |
| 05:46:03 | Vixie | hm |
| 05:46:09 | Vixie | yeah I think I'll leave it |
| 05:46:24 | Strife89 | Just make some new folder, then, if you like. |
| 05:46:51 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 05:46:51 | * | Vixie creates a "stored_music" folder. |
| 05:47:37 | mc2739 | JdGordon|: reverted the last change (line 88) and backdrop still does not load |
| 05:49:18 | Vixie | Strife89: when I reboot, it still goes to the default interface |
| 05:49:42 | Strife89 | Hmm. |
| 05:49:57 | Strife89 | The firmware upgrade wasn't modified properly, then. |
| 05:50:06 | mc2739 | JdGordon|: completely reverting r27791 corrects backdrop problem |
| 05:50:30 | Strife89 | mc2739, JdGordon|: Any ideas how to resolve this? |
| 05:50:48 | Strife89 | Vixie: Leave some free space. ~100 MB. |
| 05:51:08 | Strife89 | Just in case. |
| 05:51:21 | Strife89 | And just for now, at least. |
| 05:51:26 | mc2739 | Strife89: some newer Fuze v2s need the latest bootloader and mkamsboot installed manually |
| 05:51:34 | Strife89 | Ah. |
| 05:51:37 | Strife89 | Poop. |
| 05:52:21 | mc2739 | follow the manual installation instuctions here: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMS |
| 05:52:49 | JdGordon| | mc2739: ok then, kugels problem |
| 05:59:46 | Strife89 | JdGordon|, mc2739: So, use r27790 to avoid that backdrop issue for now? |
| 05:59:58 | Strife89 | Refer to the screenshot I linked earlier./ |
| 06:00 |
| 06:00:14 | Strife89 | ( http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1905158/dump%20100314-092002.bmp ) |
| 06:00:23 | JdGordon| | sounds like it |
| 06:00:30 | * | JdGordon| forgot to update his ipod last night :'( |
| 06:02:25 | Strife89 | I assisted with patching the OF upgrade to install the Rockbox bootloader. Moment of truth now. |
| 06:08:22 | Strife89 | Vixie: So, is it in Rockbox? |
| 06:09:36 | Vixie | yeah |
| 06:09:54 | mc2739 | \o/ |
| 06:10:00 | Strife89 | :D |
| 06:10:20 | Strife89 | Vixie: I recommend that you play with it and read the manual. |
| 06:10:35 | Strife89 | Vixie: Look around in the Settings menus, in particualr. :) |
| 06:11:02 | Strife89 | s/particualr/particular/ |
| 06:11:15 | Strife89 | Vixie: Enjoy. :) |
| 06:11:39 | Strife89 | (signed: The Rockbox devs) |
| 06:13:22 | Vixie | haha thanks :3 |
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| 06:38:36 | Strife89 | Hmmm, suddenly Vixie's computer isn't recognizing her FUze/. |
| 06:38:44 | Strife89 | mc2739: Ping. |
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| 07:05:38 | sasquatch | my e200 tells me "data abort at ..." and i cant find a way to reset or reboot... maybe i'm overlooking something in the manual (not born with english tounge)? |
| 07:06:13 | krazykit | hold the power button. i think it takes 10 or 15 seconds |
| 07:06:29 | sasquatch | ok... i didnt try it that long... |
| 07:06:32 | sasquatch | checking... |
| 07:06:52 | sasquatch | \o/ |
| 07:07:00 | sasquatch | big thanks! |
| 07:07:32 | sasquatch | that happened while trying to remove stations from the radio preset list |
| 07:09:00 | Strife89 | For the logs: Vixie's final problem was that the OF reset the USB Mode setting to Auto-detect, which Ubuntu doesn't play well with. |
| 07:09:17 | Strife89 | Changing it back to MSC allowed it to mount again. |
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| 07:19:34 | Dhraakellian | so, what would be the best bet for running Rockbox on an 800x480 touchscreen device? |
| 07:20:24 | Dhraakellian | Nokia N900, specificly |
| 07:21:26 | Dhraakellian | figure out deps and use a sim for a touch-based target? |
| 07:22:28 | Dhraakellian | or would an actual RaaA port be needed/best? |
| 07:23:30 | Dhraakellian | it's a busybox/linux/X11 device |
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| 07:32:00 | JdGordon| | Dhraakellian: you should be able to build a sdl Raaa build, you just need to make that work on the n900 then |
| 07:33:27 | Dhraakellian | jdgordan: so mostly a matter of having the proper deps? |
| 07:34:00 | Dhraakellian | ...and sdl raaa compiled for ARM? |
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| 07:55:53 | roxasisalive | Hello room |
| 07:56:20 | Strife89 | o/ |
| 07:56:47 | roxasisalive | As of now i am using rockbox on my sansa e200 v1... are there any new games or applications? |
| 07:57:09 | roxasisalive | if i were to update |
| 07:57:21 | Strife89 | roxasisalive: Nothing notable, mostl likely. |
| 07:57:30 | Strife89 | roxasisalive: What revision are you using? |
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| 07:58:46 | roxasisalive | i was getting my mp3 |
| 07:59:08 | roxasisalive | the rev. is ver 3.6 |
| 07:59:55 | Strife89 | roxasisalive: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/MajorChanges |
| 08:00 |
| 08:00:25 | roxasisalive | You are a saint Strife89 |
| 08:00:37 | Strife89 | No new plugins, but a handful of notable improvements (plus several unmentioned ones). |
| 08:00:55 | roxasisalive | hmm radio skins |
| 08:00:57 | Strife89 | Nah, S_a_i_n_t is. ;P |
| 08:01:12 | roxasisalive | where would i find those |
| 08:01:25 | roxasisalive | your a saint |
| 08:01:33 | Strife89 | They're included with a handful of themes, but not many. |
| 08:01:42 | roxasisalive | hmm |
| 08:02:07 | roxasisalive | well, arent they just wps images? |
| 08:02:17 | Strife89 | Obviously you need to update your build first, in any case. |
| 08:02:18 | Strife89 | But! |
| 08:02:20 | | Nick Slasheri_ is now known as Slasheri (miipekk@xen.ihme.org) |
| 08:02:38 | Strife89 | I advise you to not update to the current revision right now. |
| 08:02:47 | Strife89 | Something broke WPS rendering. |
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| 08:02:48 | roxasisalive | why is that? |
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| 08:02:53 | roxasisalive | oh |
| 08:02:57 | Strife89 | However, |
| 08:02:59 | roxasisalive | thanks for telling me |
| 08:03:22 | Strife89 | roxasisalive: http://www.rockbox.org/dl.cgi?bin=sansae200v2 |
| 08:03:30 | Strife89 | r27774 should be fine for now. |
| 08:03:33 | roxasisalive | i use v1 |
| 08:03:37 | roxasisalive | not v2 |
| 08:03:45 | Strife89 | Ah, whoops. |
| 08:03:55 | Strife89 | Sorry. |
| 08:03:59 | Strife89 | http://www.rockbox.org/dl.cgi?bin=sansae200 |
| 08:04:10 | roxasisalive | its sad that sadisk is cannceling the sansansa line |
| 08:04:15 | roxasisalive | sansa* |
| 08:04:22 | Strife89 | I was not aware they were. |
| 08:04:30 | Strife89 | Unfortunate indeed. :/ |
| 08:04:34 | CIA-9 | New commit by bieber (r27799): Theme Editor: Enabled __list_icons__ special file name for %xl tags |
| 08:04:53 | roxasisalive | yeahm if you look for a sansa e200 series mp3 they will be like 50 bucks for a used one |
| 08:05:04 | roxasisalive | thats a sign that they are becoming rare |
| 08:05:04 | Strife89 | roxasisalive: If you want to update, I recommend this package. http://download.rockbox.org/daily/sansae200/rockbox-sansae200-20100812.zip |
| 08:06:33 | CIA-9 | r27799 build result: All green |
| 08:06:39 | roxasisalive | Hey everyone in the room, i have an important suggestion... if you think that in the future your mp3 players screen may get broken i should suggest you download the voice thing for rockbox |
| 08:06:52 | roxasisalive | it worked for my sansa |
| 08:07:17 | roxasisalive | if your sansa's screen breaks atleast you have the voice telling you what your looking at |
| 08:07:34 | Strife89 | roxasisalive: On that note, update your voice file as well. |
| 08:07:46 | Strife89 | http://download.rockbox.org/daily/voices/sansae200-20100812-english.zip |
| 08:07:59 | roxasisalive | thanks again |
| 08:08:04 | roxasisalive | you are very helpful |
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| 08:08:21 | Strife89 | I don't see any themes for the e200 that have an FMS. |
| 08:08:33 | roxasisalive | you know how they have doom on rockbox |
| 08:08:41 | roxasisalive | what if they could have wolf 3d |
| 08:09:04 | roxasisalive | is it an incompatiblity thing |
| 08:09:35 | Strife89 | I suppose it might be possible; if so, then there's probably just a lack of interest from coders. |
| 08:10:05 | roxasisalive | i bet duke nukem would get an app |
| 08:10:56 | roxasisalive | but im just chewing the fat and throwing ideas around |
| 08:13:16 | roxasisalive | i wonder if the ipod touch could have rockbox support... |
| 08:13:39 | Strife89 | That has been gone over many times. |
| 08:14:04 | Strife89 | There's been a lot of work on Rockbox as an Application (RaaA). |
| 08:14:15 | roxasisalive | neat |
| 08:14:15 | Strife89 | The current focus is an Android port. |
| 08:14:29 | roxasisalive | it sounds useful |
| 08:14:50 | Strife89 | If the devs are interested and they come up with a way, then MAYBE the iPod Touch will see Rockbox. |
| 08:15:06 | Strife89 | I wouldn't get my hopes too high. |
| 08:15:11 | roxasisalive | i love this irc... its so quiet and there are no flamers |
| 08:15:37 | Dhraakellian | $50 for a used e200? |
| 08:15:50 | roxasisalive | yes, 50 on ebay |
| 08:15:56 | Strife89 | What capacity? |
| 08:15:59 | Dhraakellian | too much, IMO |
| 08:16:01 | Strife89 | 2 GB? 4? 8? |
| 08:16:07 | roxasisalive | more specifically... its a 4 |
| 08:16:11 | Strife89 | Ah. |
| 08:16:12 | roxasisalive | e260 v1 |
| 08:16:24 | roxasisalive | the classic |
| 08:16:45 | Dhraakellian | spend an extra $10 and get a refurb 8GB Fuze |
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| 08:17:12 | roxasisalive | lol, you could just clean out the mp3 player and reload it with the lil' monsta video's and the demo mode and your looking at 90 bucks |
| 08:17:27 | roxasisalive | but that would be wrong |
| 08:17:55 | Dhraakellian | I payed $45 for my refurb e260v1 two years ago |
| 08:18:21 | roxasisalive | i know |
| 08:18:33 | Dhraakellian | (april '08) |
| 08:18:44 | roxasisalive | i dont know why sansa is trying to stop the e200 line |
| 08:18:57 | roxasisalive | alot of people buy it for the rockbox compatibility |
| 08:19:09 | roxasisalive | IT CAN PLAY GAMEBOY GAMES FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! |
| 08:19:21 | roxasisalive | sorry for allcaps |
| 08:19:22 | Dhraakellian | ...because its controls are rather clunky compared with the Fuze's |
| 08:19:30 | roxasisalive | i got ahead of myself |
| 08:19:48 | roxasisalive | but wasnt sansa and rockbox in agreement |
| 08:19:49 | Dhraakellian | and the Fuze runs Rockbox pretty well, if not so long on a single charge |
| 08:20:00 | Strife89 | Yeah. |
| 08:20:07 | Dhraakellian | SanDisk didn't really give the Rockbox devs too much |
| 08:20:13 | Strife89 | Fuze gets, what, 14 hours? |
| 08:20:25 | roxasisalive | 14 hours is 14 hours |
| 08:20:27 | Strife89 | The OF claims up to 22, IIRC. |
| 08:20:32 | Dhraakellian | a couple prototype e200v1s, if I remember the story right |
| 08:20:50 | Dhraakellian | the FuzeV1 gets much better battery life with the OF |
| 08:21:16 | Dhraakellian | I think I've heard that Rockbox on FuzeV2 doesn't fare quite so poorly |
| 08:21:28 | roxasisalive | a quick query... what is the average hours a sansa e260 v1 can get on a full charge |
| 08:21:37 | Dhraakellian | but neither has close to the kind of optimizations the e200v1 port has |
| 08:21:56 | Dhraakellian | roxasisalive: take a look at the SansaRuntime page on the wiki |
| 08:21:59 | roxasisalive | the e200v1 port in my opinion is great |
| 08:21:59 | Strife89 | roxasisalive: In Rockbox? IIRC the best Battery Bench hit 19 hours. |
| 08:22:09 | roxasisalive | thats awesome! |
| 08:22:37 | Strife89 | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaRuntime |
| 08:22:53 | Dhraakellian | even with the decreased battery life, though, I still think the Fuze's controls are enough nicer to be well worth it |
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| 08:23:59 | roxasisalive | yeah, the fuze's scrollwheel is better and doesnt get stuck like the e200 series did |
| 08:24:59 | roxasisalive | dhraakellian, what mp3 player are you using? |
| 08:25:12 | Dhraakellian | oh, and you can actually click the fuze's buttons without contorting your thumb |
| 08:25:23 | Dhraakellian | roxasisalive: I take offense at the way you phrased that question |
| 08:25:43 | Dhraakellian | DAPs: 8GB FuzeV1, 4GB Clip+ |
| 08:25:46 | roxasisalive | i am very sorry |
| 08:25:51 | Dhraakellian | Apps: Rockbox |
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| 08:26:15 | Dhraakellian | well, truthfully, I shouldn't be the offended party |
| 08:26:25 | Dhraakellian | Apps: Amarok |
| 08:26:27 | Dhraakellian | sorry |
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| 08:26:40 | roxasisalive | i should have asked what digital audio players do you utilize rockbox on |
| 08:26:41 | Dhraakellian | wish I had RaaA on my n900 |
| 08:27:07 | Dhraakellian | but I think the n900's media player is a tweaked version of Rhythmbox |
| 08:27:24 | roxasisalive | what is your favorite theme? |
| 08:27:25 | * | Strife89 can only dream of RaaA on the now-depreciated Palm OS. |
| 08:27:29 | Dhraakellian | I used to have an e260v1, but I handed that one down to my older brother when the FuzeV1 got Rockbox |
| 08:27:46 | Dhraakellian | Strife89: deprecated? </pedantry> |
| 08:28:03 | Strife89 | Dhraakellian: I still use a Palm TX. :) |
| 08:28:21 | Dhraakellian | right now, on the Fuze? BlueBlackness with Helvetica 12 |
| 08:28:29 | Strife89 | But as far as most of the world is concerned, Palm OS is dead. |
| 08:28:31 | Dhraakellian | On the e200, PlainTextVP |
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| 08:41:12 | * | amiconn found a potential problem in 'configure' |
| 08:41:59 | amiconn | It uses grep -P for figuring out some path stuff. Not all grep versions are built with perl regexp support |
| 08:42:32 | amiconn | The one in debian lenny isn't, for instance |
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| 08:43:53 | amiconn | kugel, r27656 ^^ |
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| 09:22:29 | pixelma | Strife89: I don't see a question |
| 09:23:25 | Strife89 | pixelma: Wha?.... When did I attempt to ask one? |
| 09:24:22 | pixelma | well, I just saw a highlight of you asking if I caught the question about 5 hours ago |
| 09:25:29 | Strife89 | pixelma: Ah, nevermind it. |
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| 09:41:31 | * | delt your favorite idler is back |
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| 09:53:11 | pixelma | delt_zZzZ: no need for this "welcome" message and also not for changing the nick (right after joining too). Please read the guidelines and stick to them |
| 09:54:04 | pixelma | S_a_i_n_t, Strife89: is there a bug report for the broken %t yet? |
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| 10:25:52 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: not to my knowledge |
| 10:26:05 | S_a_i_n_t | I fell asleep until just now sorry :P |
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| 10:31:55 | pixelma | reminds me that I need to fix the 128x96x2 cabbiev2 and put the progressbar into an own viewport :\ |
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| 10:34:33 | sko | i made a launcher (and maybe statusbar) icon for android (files at FS #11234), here is how it looks: http://imagebin.org/109427 |
| 10:48:34 | pixelma | do touchscreen targets not have the forced horizontal scrolling at all (holding "left" or "right" to make a line shift left or right quicker)? The action code is a bit confusing there but it doesn't seem to work in the sim |
| 10:49:10 | pixelma | a line that needs to scroll, of course |
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| 12:39:31 | pixelma | does someone know what JdGordon wanted to point out here: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/manual/appendix/wps_tags.tex?r1=27786;r2=27787;pathrev=27787 (why __list_icons__)? |
| 12:42:47 | pixelma | looks like it needs to be that literally with all the underscores, if I understand the commit message correctly |
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| 13:48:27 | pixelma | bluebrother: ping |
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| 15:00:19 | wodz | I found interesting 'feature' of wm8751/wm8750 driver in rockbox. It claims to support gains in range -73 to 6 dB but according to datasheet the setting is -67 to 6 dB actually. |
| 15:00:47 | wodz | do You know if this is for some 'historical reason' or something? |
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| 15:06:58 | CIA-9 | New commit by mt (r27800): Fix a bug in the asf parser that led to dropping packets in WMA voice. WMA voice now outputs the correct number of samples/packets. |
| 15:07:15 | wodz | the only reason I can think of is that -73 +6dB range gives nice integer division in tenthdb2master() (but yields incorrect result) |
| 15:08:49 | CIA-9 | r27800 build result: All green |
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| 15:22:01 | wodz | Please take a look at FS #11534. |
| 15:28:44 | CIA-9 | New commit by mt (r27801): Update libwmavoice's README. |
| 15:30:17 | CIA-9 | r27801 build result: All green |
| 15:30:17 | * | TheSeven wonders how important dualboot on nano2g is |
| 15:30:55 | TheSeven | and is we should sacrifice bootup time in favor of shutdown time |
| 15:31:06 | TheSeven | (and flash wear) |
| 15:31:36 | kugel | saratoga: I don't think the neon argument is very strong |
| 15:32:16 | TheSeven | and of course what to do with the current bootloader dilemma |
| 15:35:18 | * | TheSeven has the opportunity to kill a whole bunch of problems at once |
| 15:35:43 | wodz | What is the status of h300 bootloader? |
| 15:36:23 | TheSeven | S_a_i_n_t: (if you're still awake) do you still use the apple firmware one some nano2gs? |
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| 15:49:24 | angelwolf71885 | TheSeven: well IMHO duel boot is uselful in the unstable stage but after the GM has hit then it should be RockBox all the way |
| 15:50:50 | mc2739 | kugel: can you revisit r27791 - it seems to be causing problems with backdrop loading |
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| 15:51:17 | angelwolf71885 | and with the nano2G boot up vs shutdown times if it takes less time the the apple FW then it dosnt matter |
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| 16:18:47 | kugel | mc2739: yes |
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| 16:21:41 | kugel | mc2739: works for me |
| 16:21:53 | kugel | maybe I'm lacking some steps to reproduce |
| 16:25:23 | amiconn | kugel: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20100813#08:41:12 |
| 16:25:45 | kugel | amiconn: I saw that, do you have a better idea to do it in mind? |
| 16:26:51 | amiconn | Why do you need perl regexp there? |
| 16:27:19 | * | amiconn isn't sure what this statement is meant to do at all |
| 16:28:32 | kugel | find if it's absolute or relative path (i.e. starts with /), like the commend above indicates |
| 16:28:52 | kugel | there are probably easier ways but I couldn't find one |
| 16:29:28 | * | amiconn doesn't understand |
| 16:29:55 | amiconn | If $need_full_path is set to 'yes', it uses realpath to figure out the full path |
| 16:30:58 | mc2739 | kugel: backdrops loaded in the themes cfg file do not load |
| 16:31:00 | kugel | realpath only works on files/dirs that exist on the system |
| 16:31:19 | kugel | mc2739: yep, I was missing the sbs. it works fine without |
| 16:32:59 | amiconn | Yes, but if it's not set, it means that an absolute path isn't needed |
| 16:33:36 | amiconn | I also wonder how "converting" a relative path to an absolute path by just prepending a '/' will ever work |
| 16:34:24 | kugel | hmm well I probably forgot to rename it properly, an absolute path is actually always needed, the else case is more for cross compilations |
| 16:35:16 | kugel | prepending the / is specifically for use with −−rbdir=XXXX, so that −−rbdir=.rockbox leads to /.rockbox |
| 16:36:25 | amiconn | Why not just use −−rbdir=/.rockbox in this case? |
| 16:36:51 | kugel | because since −−rbdir was introduced −−rbdir=.rockbox worked |
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| 16:37:03 | kugel | didn't want to break it |
| 16:37:11 | amiconn | hmm |
| 16:38:21 | amiconn | I presume the check should hit if there's a leading / ? |
| 16:38:45 | amiconn | Even with a grep that does support perl regexp (e.g. Cygwin's) this doesn't work |
| 16:38:57 | amiconn | It hit's on *any* slash, even a trailing one |
| 16:39:02 | amiconn | *hits |
| 16:39:53 | kugel | oh |
| 16:40:13 | amiconn | A check for a leading slash is e.g. grep '^/' |
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| 16:40:47 | amiconn | And you don't need -P - grep does support regexp by itself. Dunno what's different between that and perl regexp, but for this kind of stuff it doesn't seem to matter |
| 16:41:35 | kugel | then grep '^/' is much better indeed |
| 16:41:53 | kugel | I didn't know it does regexp on it's own |
| 16:41:56 | Torne | there are some quite dramatic differences between grep and pgrep, but ^/ is a better idea :) |
| 16:42:55 | * | pixelma tries another question... |
| 16:43:14 | kugel | it looks like the need_full_path case is also taken for android where it wouldn't work |
| 16:43:31 | pixelma | "The default for the WPS screen..." - does anyone else think the "screen" is redundent there? |
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| 16:46:27 | kugel | mc2739: http://pastie.org/1090516 seems to fix it |
| 16:47:29 | kugel | it works for non-sbs because bmpdir == BACKDROP_DIR when not coming from an sbs, but when it comes from an %X-less sbs bmpdir is the .rockbox/wps/<theme> one |
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| 16:58:27 | kugel | S_a_i_n_t: ^ |
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| 17:02:55 | Strife89 | pixelma: Not that I'm aware of. Did anyone file one while I was a sleep? |
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| 17:07:29 | mc2739 | kugel: looks good with that patch |
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| 17:09:24 | CIA-9 | New commit by kugel (r27802): Fix backdrops from sbs not being loaded correctly (caused by r27791). |
| 17:11:02 | CIA-9 | r27802 build result: All green |
| 17:12:05 | mc2739 | Strife89: can you test r27802 to see if it corrects your backdrop issue? |
| 17:12:08 | pixelma | Strife89: I didn't |
| 17:12:29 | Strife89 | mc2739: Sure, give me a minute. |
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| 17:56:52 | Strife89 | mc2739: Well, the backdrop issue seems to be gone, but ..... |
| 17:59:31 | Strife89 | My iPod Video's disk churning is incessant. :/ |
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| 18:05:34 | LambdaCalculus37 | Strife89: Check the disk with any scanning tools. Make sure it's not going south on you. |
| 18:06:39 | Strife89 | I'll check with the desktop; Ubuntu is the host OS there. |
| 18:07:41 | Strife89 | What was it again? fsck.fat /dev/sdx ? |
| 18:08:05 | LambdaCalculus37 | fsck.vfat IIRC. |
| 18:08:11 | Strife89 | Ah. |
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| 18:12:54 | pixelma | ok, I found a difference (if it's really true) between 1st and 2nd gen Ipod Mini that is already interesting for the manual. The first generation with the different wheel doesn't define "HAVE_WHEEL_ACCELERATION", is that true? |
| 18:14:02 | pixelma | well, the better question is, if it's impossible on the first gen Mini or just hasn't been done yet |
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| 18:17:10 | pixelma | since this is a feature and option automatically parsed, the resulting Ipod Mini manuals differ slightly. Not a big problem but the site seems to only compile the 1st gen one and symlinks this for the 2nd gen |
| 18:23:09 | kugel | pixelma: IIRC the 1st gen mini has a simpler wheel (hardware wise) which makes proper acceleration impossible (or very hard to implement) |
| 18:25:06 | pixelma | yes, it has a different wheel which also isn't touch area aware but is it really not possible, seeing that e.g. the 3rd gen Ipod also has wheel accelaration? |
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| 18:26:23 | kugel | I don't know |
| 18:27:41 | pixelma | anyway. Compiling the manuals lead to slightly different manuals as I said, depending on which generation it is configured for - even though both manuals use the same platform file. I'd think that rockbox.org should be more "accurate" and compile both, especially since it already offers two different links |
| 18:32:35 | mc2739 | pixelma: that should be an easy change in tools/buildspm - remove the line "manual => 'ipodmini1g', |
| 18:32:41 | mc2739 | " |
| 18:32:42 | amiconn | pixelma: It hasn't been done for the older wheels (those which don't have touch position either) |
| 18:33:05 | amiconn | 3rd gen has acceleration? |
| 18:33:21 | pixelma | amiconn: there is an HAVE_WHEEL_ACCELERATION in the 3rd gen Ipod config file |
| 18:33:43 | pixelma | I guess jhMikeS |
| 18:34:31 | pixelma | mc2739: is this the build script for the dailies? |
| 18:35:33 | amiconn | Hmm, r26962 |
| 18:35:39 | mc2739 | pixelma: yes |
| 18:35:49 | amiconn | Why he only implemented it for 3rd Gen is a mystery though |
| 18:35:58 | mc2739 | well, not really a script |
| 18:36:04 | amiconn | Wheel readout works exactly the same for all the old style wheels |
| 18:36:09 | kugel | amiconn: the e200v1 does "async" lcd updates right? I mean it memcpy's to a magic buffer and then the hardware displays from that at some time later. am I right? |
| 18:36:30 | pixelma | mc2739: ok, still something I don't know much about |
| 18:37:00 | kugel | pixelma: I added the HAVE_WHEEL_ACCEKLERATION define. is it possible that I made a mistake there and it doesn't actually have it? |
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| 18:39:32 | pixelma | kugel: no, jhMikeS added it to the 3rd gen together with changes to the 1st-3rd gen Ipod button driver |
| 18:39:54 | pixelma | as amiconn mentioned http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev&revision=26962 |
| 18:39:59 | kugel | I guess he only had a 3rd gen to test then |
| 18:40:17 | kugel | I seem to have overlooked his sentence, sorry |
| 18:41:31 | mc2739 | pixelma: my mistake (builds.pm) I was looking at mini2g |
| 18:41:35 | pixelma | maybe. If it is possible to just enable it for the other older Ipods then the differences between the manuals go away for now |
| 18:42:02 | kugel | amiconn: if yes, is that good or bad? Right now it's that "async" in the android port, but I could sync it (block the calling thread until the previous lcd update has finished). of course that dramatically drops the fake-fps. I just don't know if it's good or bad (cpu usage doesn't seem to be influenced by the change) |
| 18:42:26 | amiconn | It's not just an enable. The 1g..3g driver needs adjustment (effectively removing code duplication), and it needs to be implemented for Mini 1st |
| 18:42:39 | pixelma | I remember wodz saying he has a first gen Mini |
| 18:43:59 | amiconn | kugel: lcd_update() is always synchronous, i.e. the calling thread has to wait until everything is copied either to the lcd controller, or some back buffer |
| 18:44:17 | amiconn | Other threads may run in the meantime if the copying is done using dma (e.g. on H300) |
| 18:44:22 | kugel | yea, it copies to a back buffer now |
| 18:44:36 | kugel | the OS updates from that back buffer once in a while |
| 18:44:46 | pixelma | and well, even if there is no difference between the result then, the daily manuals could still be more "accurate" and I don't think building one manual more or less hurts |
| 18:44:49 | amiconn | The copying from back buffer to lcd may be asynchronous. Afaik it is both on e200v1 and the beast |
| 18:45:13 | amiconn | iPod Video is similar - there our "back buffer" is actually the bcm's internal buffer |
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| 19:13:04 | kugel | amiconn: I guess it's ok either way since you've not answered my question :) |
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| 19:16:30 | amiconn | kugel: It doesn't matter, as long as it is guaranteed that (a) copying to the back buffer is finished when lcd_update[_rect]() returns, and (b) each lcd_update[_rect]() triggers an update of the display from the back buffer. Whether this means cancelling a prevoius (partial) update or delaying this update doesn't matter |
| 19:17:26 | kugel | ok, I just thought it's perhaps not so nice if some updates are skipped |
| 19:18:39 | amiconn | (a) makes sure that the back buffer resembles what should be on the lcd at all times |
| 19:19:34 | amiconn | So if you implement (b) by cancelling or skipping intermediate updates, you have to make sure your current update rectangle covers all changed areas |
| 19:19:51 | kugel | there are no partial updates currently |
| 19:20:28 | amiconn | Copying the whole thing is easiest, of course. That's what we're doing on the bcm, because changing the rectangle would cause the internal buffer to change size, and then we couldn't use it as back buffer anymore |
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| 19:24:02 | kugel | I'll leave it as is then, thanks |
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| 19:36:12 | pixelma | fwiw - the manuals are currently broken, easily seen in the only and html version. I already have a fix but wanted to wait until someone could tell me if there is a cleaner solution (bluebrother?) |
| 19:36:26 | pixelma | s/only/online ... |
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| 21:15:40 | Blue_Dude | Hi. Did something change in the last week or so that affected the playbar in the WPS? I can't get it to show if a viewport is visible. |
| 21:16:46 | CIA-9 | r27803 build result: All green |
| 21:17:24 | soaa | Hi everyone. I just made a font for Rockbox. I figure there might be people who will want it. Where do I post it? |
| 21:17:45 | pixelma | Blue_Dude: with the recent parser rework the progressbar needs to be in a viewport too once you start using more than the default viewport |
| 21:18:53 | Blue_Dude | Ah, that would do it. It was displayed before outside of any viewports. Are any other items affected? Icons, etc.? |
| 21:19:48 | pixelma | text I believe. As far as I know bitmaps should be unaffected |
| 21:20:05 | Blue_Dude | Thanks. I'll give that a go. |
| 21:24:26 | Blue_Dude | Hm, that didn't work. I've got a customization of Cabbie with several viewports. Here's how I'm trying to display the progressbar: %V(0,181,-,10,-) /// %pb(5,182,166,8,pb-176x220x16.bmp) |
| 21:24:56 | Blue_Dude | The second line is identical to the standard cabbie line. |
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| 21:25:52 | kugel | I think you want to correct the %pb parameters |
| 21:26:08 | pixelma | the y-coordinate can't be true (the 182), coordinates are relative to the viewports the item is in |
| 21:26:49 | Blue_Dude | Oh. |
| 21:27:07 | pixelma | if your viewport is just 10 pixels tall, 182 doesn't make sense... |
| 21:28:22 | Blue_Dude | Now we're cooking. I didn't know it was relative. |
| 21:29:09 | Blue_Dude | This seems to work: %V(0,182,-,8,-) /// %pb(5,0,166,8,pb-176x220x16.bmp) |
| 21:29:20 | pixelma | the same applies to bitmaps and albumart (%xd and %Cd is what counts there). It's always been this way IIRC |
| 21:30:26 | Blue_Dude | The bitmaps and viewports coexist OK, so they are still displayed using absolute coordinates. |
| 21:31:03 | Blue_Dude | I've never tried to display an item with its own coordinates inside a viewport before. |
| 21:31:36 | pixelma | if your bitmaps are in the default viewport - then it's relative to that one... |
| 21:31:51 | soaa | Oh, another question. Is there a button I can press to return to the WPS from anywhere? Sansa Clip+. |
| 21:31:54 | Blue_Dude | OK, I didn't think of it that way. |
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| 21:35:48 | pixelma | soaa: Home + Select if I read the keymap file correctly. The manual is wrong there currently |
| 21:35:58 | Blue_Dude | Everything works again. Thanks! |
| 21:37:11 | soaa | pixelma: Thanks, that works, but it requires both hands. |
| 21:37:33 | soaa | Otherwise, I'm really enjoying RB on my brand new Clip+. |
| 21:40:39 | pixelma | you need a free button (combo) that works in menu and browsers and isn't used elsewhere |
| 21:41:19 | soaa | That's true. |
| 21:43:08 | pixelma | the c200 uses a long press of "Right" there but that means you can't use the forced horizontal scrolling (to the right). Back then I also played with "Volume Up" but someone meant that being able to change the volume in lists would be important too |
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| 21:58:14 | Blue_Dude | I uploaded a WPS screen last year, but it obviously needs an update. Is there a way to update the theme zip file without redoing the theme upload from scratch? |
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| 22:20:38 | leBMD | Hey guys, I was wondering about something... |
| 22:21:43 | leBMD | So, I noticed that there's now a release for the Sansa Fuze v2. Does that actually work now? Last I checked it didn't do anything. |
| 22:22:42 | saratoga | click the link |
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| 22:25:49 | leBMD | It gives me a download of the zip for v2, but I'm still trying to figure out if this build works before putting it on my player. |
| 22:26:11 | leBMD | Mainly since I don't want to accidentally brick my Fuze. |
| 22:26:16 | saratoga | on the front page, theres a link with information about the fuzev2 and a manual, read one or both |
| 22:27:59 | leBMD | Oh wow, it looks like it's working now! Last I checked it couldn't display yet. |
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| 22:29:12 | leBMD | So, from the looks of it, the only risk is having my player freeze randomly. |
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| 22:33:58 | leBMD | So, when it has warnings about how I could brick my player by doing this, does it happen very often with supported models, or is it just a disclaimer for the rare chance that it will? |
| 22:42:58 | Torne | It's a general warning; it depends on the model what the actual risk is |
| 22:43:14 | Torne | for the Sansa devices, the only time there is an actual risk of bricking is duringthe installation of the bootloader, which you only have to do once |
| 22:43:41 | leBMD | Okay. So, if I later decide that I don't like it, can I just remove the rockbox files, or does it flash itself to the ROM? |
| 22:43:44 | Torne | the bootloader install program checks you are giving it a known, tested version ofthe OF as input, so the only real chance of bricking is if the power were to go out while it's installing it |
| 22:44:10 | Torne | To remove everything you can just update to the latest OF, which will erase the rockbox bootloader, and then delete the rockbox folder |
| 22:44:59 | leBMD | Okay, so if I don't want Rockbox anymore I just go to the sansa website and click to update my Fuze? |
| 22:45:05 | pixelma | leBMD: be aware that there currently is a bug that hits some Fuze v2s that make them freeze and the only way out is letting the battery run empty. Look around in the forums a but |
| 22:45:12 | pixelma | errr bit |
| 22:45:16 | leBMD | I saw that. |
| 22:45:27 | Torne | Yeah, there is that |
| 22:45:31 | Torne | it's not fatal, but it is annoying |
| 22:45:33 | Torne | :) |
| 22:45:37 | leBMD | But, as long as I can still put songs on it and there's a way to fix it, I see no issue. :D |
| 22:46:00 | Torne | well, it doesn't brick it, but you may have to wait several *days* for the battery to run dry if it happens |
| 22:46:09 | Torne | so while it's fixable, you can't just fix it right away |
| 22:46:40 | leBMD | True, but I mainly just use it going to and from school, so I could hold off for a few days while waiting for it to die. |
| 22:47:12 | Torne | sure, we're just making sure you know :) |
| 22:47:22 | Torne | it doesn't happen for everyone, it seems, so you might be ok ;) |
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| 22:49:58 | leBMD | Okay, well, I know where the latest OF is, so I guess I'll try Rockbox. |
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| 22:51:34 | leBMD | whew, ok, so, I'm about to download the installer. So I just run the installer and it puts it on my Fuze, regardless of charge? Yes, I sound like a noob, but I've never done a firmware mod before. |
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| 22:54:28 | soaa | leBMD, welcome to the Sansa club. |
| 22:54:41 | soaa | It would be safer to do it on a full charge. |
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| 22:55:20 | leBMD | should I use rockboxutil? |
| 22:55:22 | soaa | Although, I seriously doubt there would be any real danger on doing it at half charge. |
| 22:55:44 | soaa | I installed it on my Clip+ using the manual install procedure because I'm a junkie like that. |
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| 22:55:58 | soaa | The Wiki recommends using the official Rockbox installer though. |
| 22:56:13 | Torne | use the utility |
| 22:56:24 | Torne | it does exactly the same things as the manual install, just with less typing |
| 22:56:38 | soaa | Do what Torne says. :D |
| 22:57:09 | Torne | that's right, everyone obey me >:) |
| 22:57:17 | soaa | Last time I really used Rockbox was back in the Gigabeat F days. My poor Gigabeat has since died. Actually, a long time ago. |
| 22:57:23 | leBMD | Crap, it requires admin. |
| 22:57:32 | Torne | yes |
| 22:57:37 | leBMD | dos the utility run under windows 98? |
| 22:57:43 | leBMD | does* |
| 22:57:43 | Torne | i doubt it |
| 22:57:46 | sko1 | oO |
| 22:57:55 | Torne | also, i'm not sure if it really requires administrator privs to isntall on a sansa |
| 22:58:00 | Torne | it does for some models, but not all |
| 22:58:07 | Torne | you might be able to do it anyway? not sure. |
| 22:58:13 | leBMD | well, even to just open it it requires a password. |
| 22:58:31 | Torne | that's just because it has a manifest to ask for admin privs, i think |
| 22:58:38 | Torne | not sure if you can override it.. |
| 22:58:47 | leBMD | well, I gotta go. |
| 22:58:50 | * | Torne tries. |
| 22:58:56 | leBMD | I guess I'll do this later. Seeya! |
| 22:58:56 | soaa | The manual install should require any admin privileges. |
| 22:59:03 | soaa | See you, leBMD. |
| 22:59:09 | Torne | soaa: the utility won't either, then |
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| 22:59:25 | Torne | it's only asking for them because it does for some models, and it has to get them when it starts if it's going to have them |
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| 23:00:13 | Torne | hm, that's kinda annoying actually.. you can't run it without them, if you say no it just exits |
| 23:01:29 | soaa | Manual junkies like me don't get hit by logistics as much. ;) |
| 23:02:18 | soaa | Huh, so apparently we can theme the status bar now? |
| 23:02:22 | Torne | anyone who knows about rbutil: maybe we should set the execution level to highestAvailable in the manifest instead, and throw up a dialog box warning that it can't install if it runs into something that needs admin privs when it doesn't get it? |
| 23:02:32 | Torne | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb756929.aspx implies that this is a viable strategy |
| 23:02:44 | Torne | in that if the user is able to elevate it will prompt them to |
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| 23:09:20 | balintx_ | When will Rockbox available for Android? Can download it (for example, testing) now? |
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| 23:14:03 | pixelma | Torne: I think it already informs about needing admin priviledges for bootloader installation on targets it needs them (haven't tried myself though) |
| 23:15:00 | Torne | pixelma: Yes, but you can't launch it at all without giving it admin privs on Windows |
| 23:15:05 | Torne | because its manifest says it requires them |
| 23:15:12 | pixelma | huh? |
| 23:15:18 | Torne | so if you have a nonprivileged user who can't just click "allow", and needs to actually type an admin password.. |
| 23:15:21 | Torne | you can't run it |
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| 23:15:35 | Torne | on vista/win7 |
| 23:15:40 | Torne | this doesn't apply on xp, no UAC |
| 23:15:54 | pixelma | I definitely ran Rockbox Utility as a simple user... XP though |
| 23:16:04 | Torne | right, that doesn't use that manifest entry |
| 23:16:11 | Torne | i just tested it on my win7 |
| 23:16:16 | Torne | it prompts me to elevate, because i am an admin user |
| 23:16:22 | Torne | but if i say no it just doesn't run it at all |
| 23:16:37 | Torne | and if i become a user who isn't an admin it prompts for an admin's login, and if you can't provide one it doesn't run. |
| 23:16:58 | Torne | see the MSDN link above for the behaviour |
| 23:16:59 | pixelma | bluebrother doessn't seem to be around today, IIRC he did most of this stuff |
| 23:17:04 | Torne | right |
| 23:17:33 | Torne | i think if we set it to highestAvailable it will continue to prompt for users who have admin, but will just run as mortal for others |
| 23:17:40 | pixelma | speaking of which... I need to commit that manual fix |
| 23:17:45 | Torne | they can still explicitly run it as an administrator from the right click menu if they know a suitable login |
| 23:18:09 | Torne | i don't have any stuff to build it with to try it, though |
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| 23:34:13 | krazykit | toffe82, my gigabeat f crosspad doesn't work well anymore. i'm not sure when the issue started, but it only works part of the time. sometimes i can traverse menus, but after a moment the cross won't respond and it'll keep hitting left on its own. thoughts? |
| 23:35:53 | toffe82 | krazykit: the front cover press to much on the cross perhaps ? try to reconnect it or to use it without the cover, if still problem , change it |
| 23:36:46 | CIA-9 | New commit by pixelma (r27804): Fix manuals broken by r27787 - underscores have a meaning in tex and need to be escaped. Put the name into quotes like the .bmp above while at it. The ... |
| 23:37:01 | krazykit | i tried reseating the cable but it didn't seem to help. the front didn't seem to be pressing down on the cross overly hard, either |
| 23:37:17 | krazykit | i'll have to try with the front cover off |
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| 23:38:39 | CIA-9 | r27804 build result: All green |
| 23:39:21 | pixelma | is the battery in good shape? |
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| 23:55:02 | krazykit | the battery didn't seem to be bulging |
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