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| 00:12:36 | TheSeven | thefirstM: to do this properly, we would need a vsync interrupt from the lcd |
| 00:13:24 | TheSeven | if you yield too much, the kernel will think that you've got nothing to do and block the thread for too long, so you'll probably miss the sync pulse and yield even more |
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| 00:13:38 | TheSeven | ask a kernel expert for more details |
| 00:13:55 | thefirstM | I figured that was what was happening. |
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| 00:14:15 | thefirstM | Could the severity of the problem be reduced by using DMA? |
| 00:14:23 | TheSeven | not much |
| 00:14:32 | TheSeven | this will only offload the cpu from doing the actual data transfer |
| 00:14:57 | TheSeven | (and will probably cause problems because other code will write to the framebuffer while it's still being transferred) |
| 00:15:20 | TheSeven | i still don't quite get why it isn't running that thread if nothing else has work to do though |
| 00:15:20 | thefirstM | I guess the OF can get away with this since it just doesn't do anything very graphically intensive? |
| 00:15:33 | thefirstM | What thread? |
| 00:15:55 | TheSeven | the thread that's waiting in that loop |
| 00:16:15 | TheSeven | the of is probably written with these things in mind, with double buffering etc. |
| 00:16:40 | TheSeven | there might actually be a way to get an interrupt on vsync, i just haven't figured it out yet |
| 00:17:15 | TheSeven | some gpios seem to have strange undocumented command registers, which might actually be routing the signal to an interrupt input or whatever |
| 00:17:50 | TheSeven | i even found one that switches the base clock for the whole soc from 32768Hz to 1843200Hz |
| 00:18:04 | thefirstM | Weird. |
| 00:18:10 | TheSeven | if we only had a datasheet for that thing... |
| 00:18:21 | thefirstM | I thought there was? |
| 00:19:07 | TheSeven | only for a similar one. and that's a leaked preliminary datasheet that isn't even accurate for the model it belongs to |
| 00:19:22 | TheSeven | and apple has changed quite a few things compared to that |
| 00:19:51 | thefirstM | Hopefully, they were smart and added an interrupt for vsync. |
| 00:20:12 | thefirstM | Would it be a good idea for me to implement a user-controllable vsync option in the LCD settings menu? |
| 00:20:47 | TheSeven | fell free to do so if you like it. i doubt it will be accepted into svn |
| 00:21:17 | thefirstM | I am not trying for that at this point. Its just too slow. |
| 00:21:24 | TheSeven | actually the GUI code should decide if it needs vsync or not |
| 00:24:12 | thefirstM | If you find out anything about the interrupt, can you make a comment on the patch? It is FS #11544. |
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| 00:40:00 | Pat61 | I have read and done what it say to make a playlist of all my songs but it doesnt work |
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| 02:00:38 | [[sroracle]] | Hello |
| 02:00:46 | [[sroracle]] | How can I use Rockbox while its charging? |
| 02:01:01 | [[sroracle]] | mind this is charging through USB |
| 02:01:13 | [[sroracle]] | it becomes modal and I can't do anything until I eject it |
| 02:01:22 | [[sroracle]] | This is an iPod photo |
| 02:02:31 | thefirstM | [[sroracle]]: Hold the "Menu" button while plugging in the USB. |
| 02:03:30 | [[sroracle]] | that boots into the original firmware though. |
| 02:05:20 | thefirstM | It does? Hmm. Maybe it is different on the PP ipods... Check the manual. I am pretty sure there is a way to do it. |
| 02:08:42 | JdGordon| | once you are in rockbox, then hold menu while inserting usb |
| 02:08:49 | JdGordon| | or maybe select... check the manual |
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| 04:11:20 | [[sroracle]] | menu button seemed to override it |
| 04:11:25 | [[sroracle]] | but it didn't start charging either |
| 04:11:44 | [[sroracle]] | select didn't work |
| 04:16:07 | JdGordon| | you might have to enable a charge setting |
| 04:16:42 | [[sroracle]] | any idea which one? |
| 04:19:49 | JdGordon| | settings > general > system > battery > charge during usb |
| 04:20:15 | [[sroracle]] | I don't have that option |
| 04:20:24 | [[sroracle]] | only option under battery is battery size |
| 04:20:28 | [[sroracle]] | er |
| 04:20:30 | [[sroracle]] | battery capacity |
| 04:20:52 | mc2739 | you need to update to a current build, not the release version |
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| 04:21:19 | [[sroracle]] | okay |
| 04:21:31 | [[sroracle]] | How would I do that from rockbox utility? |
| 04:21:42 | [[sroracle]] | Or am I going to have to compile from the source? |
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| 04:22:41 | mc2739 | select the installation tab |
| 04:22:52 | JdGordon| | mc2739: re that bug: yeah I didnt tihnk it would be fixed, wishful tihnking... I might have a look tonight |
| 04:23:36 | [[sroracle]] | Ah there's a dialog to download a new version |
| 04:25:36 | [[sroracle]] | So now what? |
| 04:28:59 | mc2739 | it might be a good idea to check out the manual: http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-ipodcolor/rockbox-buildch8.html#x11-1440008.5.2 |
| 04:31:14 | [[sroracle]] | Yeah... I have an adapter to charge it from the mains. |
| 04:31:45 | [[sroracle]] | Only reason I've been charging it off the computer is because the mains charger didn't work in the first place |
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| 05:04:05 | JdGordon| | anyone awake think there is any point adding a generic bar tag (which takes the min, max and another tag to do the magic) |
| 05:04:25 | JdGordon| | I think playlist position might be the only one that would be nice as a tag and isnt yet, but not sure |
| 05:05:34 | S_a_i_n_t | In place of %pb? |
| 05:05:34 | JdGordon| | sure, yes in place of, or working with... |
| 05:06:40 | S_a_i_n_t | not.....*really*,specific vert/horizontal tags I think are nice. |
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| 05:14:17 | JdGordon| | going for lunch, but now I'm confused a bit... :) |
| 05:14:34 | S_a_i_n_t | Perhaps I was confused by your intention. |
| 05:14:53 | S_a_i_n_t | I'm overly cautious of your ideas now ;) |
| 05:16:44 | bieber | JdGordon|: Sounds like an interesting idea, not sure if it would really be worthwhile to code |
| 05:16:54 | bieber | I just can't think of a whole lot of use for it |
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| 05:35:55 | JdGordon| | bieber: right :) the thing is it would need almost no new code to do it, which is why I ask |
| 05:36:18 | JdGordon| | although I think it is probaly only one or two more uses so it would be just as easy to fix those tags like %pv |
| 05:36:36 | bieber | That's what I'm thinking |
| 05:36:45 | bieber | Just keep the skin language cleaner |
| 05:39:16 | JdGordon| | the slider addition last night really needs a way to get a subimage :/ the obvbious way is adding a tag param but that doesnt work with the N tag param type |
| 05:39:44 | JdGordon| | unless we decide to make N do "any tag type" and just make sure they are always checked |
| 05:39:58 | bieber | Slider? |
| 05:41:08 | JdGordon| | the bar can now look like: [======= ] or [=======* ] or [ * ] where ='s are drawn (or bmp filled), and * is another image |
| 05:41:43 | JdGordon| | I guess you didnt see my appology last night? :) |
| 05:46:49 | bieber | Nope |
| 05:46:57 | bieber | And that's pretty nifty |
| 05:47:19 | JdGordon| | http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20100815#16:17:16 |
| 05:48:12 | bieber | Ohhh, okay |
| 05:48:29 | bieber | I'm working on a code walkthrough page on the wiki, btw |
| 05:48:39 | JdGordon| | I saw |
| 05:49:49 | JdGordon| | once its done I'll try adding the new stuff if you dont get to it first (probably good to let me do it though, help you see what docs needs more work) |
| 05:51:17 | bieber | I won't have much of a choice, school's starting soon ;) |
| 05:51:32 | bieber | Mah, the wiki thinks my class names are supposed to be Wiki topics |
| 05:52:13 | JdGordon| | I think you need to put ! before them to no wikilink them |
| 05:52:44 | bieber | Surely, there must be a way to turn it off for the entire article? |
| 05:52:52 | JdGordon| | dunno |
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| 05:52:57 | * | JdGordon| hates wiki editing :) |
| 05:53:55 | bieber | Heh, me too |
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| 06:06:58 | * | JdGordon| wishes skinning the lists would be simple :/ |
| 06:07:30 | JdGordon| | the best I've so far come up with is specifying two viewports, one for unselected items in the list and one for the current selection and then maggically draw them |
| 06:07:50 | JdGordon| | done sort of like the title viewport, but that wont work too well |
| 06:10:38 | bieber | You mean the %pv lists? |
| 06:10:57 | JdGordon| | no, the ui lists |
| 06:12:10 | JdGordon| | the obvious goal would be to allow the menus to be drawn one way and the browsers/setting screens another |
| 06:12:19 | JdGordon| | think touchscreen |
| 06:16:17 | JdGordon| | annoyingly, doing it this way means scrolling wouldnt work in the non selected items |
| 06:16:22 | JdGordon| | which probably isnt such a bad thing |
| 06:16:41 | S_a_i_n_t | does it now? |
| 06:16:51 | S_a_i_n_t | Oh...right, if you force scroll...yeah. |
| 06:17:02 | JdGordon| | almost no lists use that because it looks like shit |
| 06:17:42 | JdGordon| | the other option is doing it the same was as the playlist viewer, but that means only text tags and one line... obviously images would be nice to have |
| 06:18:00 | S_a_i_n_t | Lists don't scroll unless you ask them to, ...correct? |
| 06:18:19 | JdGordon| | not you... the code |
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| 06:19:03 | JdGordon| | viewports would also allow fun stuff like icon mode menus |
| 06:19:20 | bieber | And CustomWPS has warned us that scrolling lists looks like crap :P |
| 06:19:28 | S_a_i_n_t | I was thinking about that the other day when you were playing with %Li |
| 06:19:37 | S_a_i_n_t | (Icon Menus) |
| 06:19:47 | bieber | Okay, I've briefly documented all the ThemeEditor code, I'm going to add a guide specific to adding/modifying tags |
| 06:21:15 | JdGordon| | EWALLOFTEXT :) |
| 06:21:37 | S_a_i_n_t | beat me to it...errr...formatting ;) |
| 06:23:05 | S_a_i_n_t | Why are all the classes listed as potential topics...that's weird. |
| 06:24:07 | bieber | It's because my classes are all CamelCaseWithFirstLetterUppercase |
| 06:24:21 | bieber | Which is the same format the wiki likes for topic names |
| 06:24:51 | bieber | I'm sure there must be a way to turn off the auto-look-for-potential-topics thing for the whole article, I just need to find it |
| 06:25:09 | S_a_i_n_t | each one probably needs escaping somehow. |
| 06:25:19 | S_a_i_n_t | I *hate* editing that wiki. |
| 06:25:25 | * | JdGordon| asks in #foswiki |
| 06:26:54 | JdGordon| | <noautolink> maybe? |
| 06:27:19 | JdGordon| | Set NOAUTOLINK = on |
| 06:27:31 | JdGordon| | bieber: ^ try that |
| 06:27:50 | bieber | What's the syntax for that? |
| 06:27:56 | bieber | Just stick NOAUTOLINK = on at the top of the page? |
| 06:28:00 | JdGordon| | I tihnk so |
| 06:28:13 | JdGordon| | might need the set word also |
| 06:28:15 | S_a_i_n_t | Won't that bork the *actual* links? |
| 06:29:04 | * | S_a_i_n_t decides that 18-Helvetica-Bold looks shite when aliased |
| 06:29:38 | S_a_i_n_t | v looks warped. |
| 06:29:39 | | Part Dhraakellian ("Meddle not in the affairs of ircops, for they are (not so) subtle, and quick to anger.") |
| 06:30:10 | JdGordon| | or use the <noautolink></noautolink> block |
| 06:30:11 | bieber | I insert all the links I want manually |
| 06:30:22 | bieber | Set word? |
| 06:30:53 | JdGordon| | SET |
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| 06:32:23 | bieber | Oh, okay |
| 06:32:57 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon|: conditional backdrops are in the too hard/not possible basket...yes? |
| 06:33:17 | * | S_a_i_n_t is trying to make an .sbs only theme, but wants two backdrops |
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| 06:33:58 | S_a_i_n_t | Oh...wait, I can set one with the .cfg...*duh* |
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| 06:35:07 | JdGordon| | they are in the "not untill we have resizable skin buffers" basket |
| 06:35:13 | S_a_i_n_t | Hmmm...this is looking possible. I *should* be able to squish my entire iLike theme into an .sbs file. |
| 06:35:26 | JdGordon| | conditionally chosing a backdorp image is simple, storing it is problematic |
| 06:35:33 | S_a_i_n_t | Aha. |
| 06:35:47 | JdGordon| | no you cant |
| 06:35:59 | JdGordon| | you still need a wps, even if it is just %we |
| 06:36:08 | JdGordon| | and why the fuck would you want to! |
| 06:36:17 | S_a_i_n_t | Ah...shit, yes...you're quite correct. |
| 06:36:35 | JdGordon| | are you trying to make it as complicated as possible :) |
| 06:36:40 | S_a_i_n_t | Why not? bieber and I talked about it a while ago, and I wanted to test the water. |
| 06:36:47 | S_a_i_n_t | And, yes. |
| 06:36:50 | JdGordon| | fair enough |
| 06:36:59 | S_a_i_n_t | Almost everything would need to be %cs conditional ;) |
| 06:37:05 | JdGordon| | I mean, sure its doable, but messy on so many levels |
| 06:37:17 | bieber | Okay, got my guide together as a draft, at least |
| 06:37:18 | JdGordon| | why? lots of conditional viewports |
| 06:37:31 | S_a_i_n_t | Oh...yeah. Certainly. I like to test what I can/can't do with the skin engine though. |
| 06:37:49 | * | JdGordon| assumes you are driving yourself mad using only single letter viewport and image labels :D |
| 06:38:09 | S_a_i_n_t | I don;t *have* to. |
| 06:38:38 | S_a_i_n_t | lear made it so I can use %xl(foo,foo.bmp,0,0) - %xd(foo) |
| 06:38:51 | S_a_i_n_t | but, I'd probably still, not. |
| 06:38:59 | bieber | JdGordon|: The trick to your new %xd functionality will be to call children[indexofthetag]->evalTag(info, true, numberofsubimages) |
| 06:39:00 | JdGordon| | yeah, I saw that. I didnt mean to stop that working |
| 06:39:27 | bieber | evalTag is a private function, but you'll be calling it from another instance of ParseTreeNode, so the compiler will be cool with it |
| 06:39:41 | bieber | That'll get you the subimage number to display |
| 06:40:16 | JdGordon| | eek :) |
| 06:42:17 | bieber | That should be the other tricky bit, otherwise just instantiate a new RBImage exactly like %xd does |
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| 06:42:25 | bieber | s/other/only |
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| 06:51:04 | JdGordon| | arg, idiot proofing the sbs could be fun. If the list is skinnable it could be possible to write a .sbs which has no list setup :) |
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| 06:55:56 | * | JdGordon| wants something to do |
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| 06:57:02 | S_a_i_n_t | <cough>%t</cough> :P |
| 06:57:28 | JdGordon| | not while at work I'm afraid :/ |
| 06:57:41 | JdGordon| | I did have a 30s look last night, nothing obvious |
| 06:57:57 | S_a_i_n_t | Ah, I didn't realise you wanted a "work specific" something to do. |
| 06:58:09 | S_a_i_n_t | Drink coffe and browse porn? |
| 06:58:29 | JdGordon| | dont drink coffee.. and probably not the best thing to do if I want to keep my job :) |
| 06:58:31 | * | S_a_i_n_t hands himself an extra e |
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| 07:04:22 | mc2739 | I looked at %t a little and saw where the timeout is parsed and where the 2 sec timout is set, but not where it checks for the timeout param |
| 07:05:17 | S_a_i_n_t | My finding only concluded that it is passing off the default 2 second value to everything |
| 07:06:20 | mc2739 | that is also what I see reading the code, although it is very possible I am missing something |
| 07:06:50 | S_a_i_n_t | Same here...skin code is a very advanced form of voodoo to me. |
| 07:08:15 | JdGordon| | timeout should be handled in umm.. skin_render.c render_alternator |
| 07:08:44 | JdGordon| | skin_render_alternator |
| 07:09:00 | JdGordon| | int next_change = alternator->last_change_tick + line->timeout; |
| 07:09:14 | JdGordon| | line->timeout might not be getting set properly |
| 07:10:02 | mc2739 | in skin_parser.c: line->timeout = DEFAULT_SUBLINE_TIME_MULTIPLIER * TIMEOUT_UNIT; |
| 07:10:19 | mc2739 | that's the 2 sec. default |
| 07:10:24 | JdGordon| | yep |
| 07:10:26 | JdGordon| | umm |
| 07:10:30 | * | JdGordon| needs to have a think |
| 07:11:28 | mc2739 | and the timeout gets parsed by this: function = parse_timeout_tag; |
| 07:11:42 | mc2739 | and that appears to work |
| 07:12:03 | JdGordon| | yes, after that line, if it is the TIMOUT tag, manually set curr_line->timeout = token->value.data.i |
| 07:12:19 | JdGordon| | or even in that function maybe |
| 07:12:57 | JdGordon| | hmm, something doesnt sound right... that wont make %?xx<%t(1)|%t(2)> work i think |
| 07:13:05 | JdGordon| | or maybe it will |
| 07:13:07 | JdGordon| | yeah, try that |
| 07:13:34 | S_a_i_n_t | Interestingly, the themeeditor behaves differently...in this example line "%t(10foo;%t(20)Bar" the alternation is 10 - 2 - 10 - 2 |
| 07:13:55 | S_a_i_n_t | So, the first one is getting set, the second ignored. |
| 07:14:13 | JdGordon| | completly different code, so tell bieber :) |
| 07:15:05 | bieber | S_a_i_n_t: Your actual code isn't like that, right? |
| 07:15:09 | bieber | You're missing a ) |
| 07:15:20 | S_a_i_n_t | yeah...I realised that just as you did. |
| 07:15:24 | S_a_i_n_t | And, no...it isn;t ;) |
| 07:15:50 | bieber | You mean it's alternating 10 seconds foo, 2 seconds bar, etc.? |
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| 07:24:47 | S_a_i_n_t | bieber: just saw what you said in the logs....yeah. |
| 07:25:21 | mc2739 | JdGordon|: http://pastie.org/1094989 - works for the first %t and ignores the second %t |
| 07:25:50 | JdGordon| | as expected |
| 07:26:22 | JdGordon| | actually the second one should overwrite the first one |
| 07:26:37 | JdGordon| | assuiming you are saying %t(1)foo%t(2)barr |
| 07:26:46 | mc2739 | actually, the first timeout is used for both |
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| 07:50:27 | JdGordon| | mc2739: I'm confused.. what was your test line? |
| 07:51:09 | JdGordon| | bah, [Saint] try out his pastebin and let us know how it goes |
| 07:51:14 | JdGordon| | it should e along the right tracks |
| 07:51:27 | [Saint] | Is anyone able to refresh me (via PM, of course) as to what my wiki password is? |
| 07:51:37 | [Saint] | JdGordon|: Will do. |
| 07:51:53 | JdGordon| | I assume only the swedes have that ability |
| 07:51:58 | [Saint] | Ah. |
| 07:52:17 | mc2739 | %t(1)foo;%t(5)bar |
| 07:52:31 | mc2739 | alternated at 1 sec each |
| 07:52:42 | JdGordon| | odd... |
| 07:57:00 | [Saint] | Gah...don't worry, I was "wiki-failing"...using my Forum ID as opposed to my wikiname. |
| 07:57:10 | mc2739 | even odder - %t(5)foo;%t(1)bar alternates at 1 sec each |
| 07:57:15 | [Saint] | Do I attempt to inset me Nick in alphabetical order? |
| 07:57:27 | JdGordon| | yes |
| 07:57:29 | [Saint] | s/me/my/ |
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| 07:57:49 | [Saint] | sooo..., is [ first or last? |
| 07:58:02 | JdGordon| | mc2739: that should be seen as 2 lines, so it *shold* work |
| 07:58:07 | * | [Saint] assumes first. |
| 07:58:12 | JdGordon| | [Saint]: in with the s's |
| 07:59:12 | [Saint] | [IDC]Dragon is right up top... |
| 07:59:37 | [Saint] | few nicks seem to have non alpha chars. |
| 08:00 |
| 08:03:00 | JdGordon| | so put it at the top |
| 08:04:29 | [Saint] | I'm totally wiki failing here...how do I inset something into the middle of a table, or, into it at all? |
| 08:04:36 | [Saint] | *insert |
| 08:05:13 | JdGordon| | first press edit |
| 08:05:36 | [Saint] | Yeas, I'm in the edit dialogue |
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| 08:22:46 | [Saint] | In terms of the wiki, what is <nop>? is it the NOP I'm familiar with? "No Operation Perfermed"? |
| 08:23:17 | simonrvn | 'don't parse this' |
| 08:23:46 | [Saint] | Aha, so I guess it is the one I'm familiar with. |
| 08:24:01 | [Saint] | Just wondering why some nicks have <nop> prepended to them. |
| 08:25:41 | JdGordon| | o they dont get turned into wikilinks |
| 08:25:52 | [Saint] | Aha...thanks. |
| 08:26:50 | [Saint] | noticed my email address is "st.lascivious@slingshotBLAH_BLAH.co.nz" is this something the wiki does to ward off scraping pages for addresses? |
| 08:27:13 | [Saint] | (the BLAH_BLAH is the part that I don't get...) |
| 08:27:22 | simonrvn | yup |
| 08:27:35 | simonrvn | * 2 |
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| 09:07:48 | [Saint] | I'm (trying to) alphabetis(ing)e the IRC Nick List...what should I do with Nicks with numerical characters in them? |
| 09:08:10 | [Saint] | Does t0rn come before or after torne? |
| 09:08:54 | JdGordon| | just leave it :) |
| 09:09:03 | [Saint] | Also, capital letters....does Alex come before alex? |
| 09:09:31 | [Saint] | I figure if I can sort it out, I may as well...it will make it easier for people to add their nick in the correct place. |
| 09:11:12 | JdGordon| | I would replace numbers with letters and order accordingly |
| 09:11:34 | JdGordon| | and ordre by first alpha so you woulod be with s not [ |
| 09:12:57 | [Saint] | so, with numerical chars, I assume that the "0" in "t0rn" (example) is a "o"? |
| 09:13:04 | JdGordon| | yeah |
| 09:13:10 | [Saint] | Ok, sweet. |
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| 09:13:59 | * | JdGordon| thinks about on demand skin loading again so better use the skin buffer |
| 09:14:11 | [Saint] | Capitals sorted alphabetically before lower case latters? O, sorted with lower case/capital mixed? |
| 09:14:24 | [Saint] | s/O/Or/ |
| 09:14:33 | JdGordon| | whatever feels right :) |
| 09:16:35 | [Saint] | well, personally I would use "Sammy, Soul, Terrence, sally, sambo' but I am not sure how common that form of sorting is. |
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| 09:26:27 | pixelma | mc2739: you probably mean 2 seconds each, compare to playing time. People said it was one second before looking at both together |
| 09:29:40 | [Saint] | Indeed...I thought it was one second until I took pixelma's advice and compared it with the playing time. |
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| 10:33:56 | [Saint] | Has anyone else noticed pictureflow being *really* framey lately? |
| 10:34:04 | [Saint] | s/framey/laggy/ |
| 10:35:16 | [Saint] | On Nano1&2G it is awfully laggy while playing music. |
| 10:36:42 | JdGord | That's a recent change? |
| 10:37:00 | [Saint] | Well, it never used to be this way. |
| 10:37:20 | [Saint] | I don't use it much personally...just noticed now it is terribly laggy |
| 10:37:48 | [Saint] | It used to be just as smooth while playing music as it was without. |
| 10:38:19 | JdGord | Is playback keeping up? |
| 10:38:46 | [Saint] | Playback is unaffected by it, if that's what you're asking. |
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| 10:41:26 | [Saint] | JdGord: It appears to be known. |
| 10:41:28 | [Saint] | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11387?string=pictureflow&project=1&search_in_comments=1&search_in_details=1&search_for_all=1&type%5B0%5D=&sev%5B0%5D=&pri%5B0%5D=&due%5B0%5D=&reported%5B0%5D=&cat%5B0%5D=&status%5B0%5D=open&percent%5B0%5D=&opened=&dev=&closed=&duedatefrom=&duedateto=&changedfrom=&changedto=&openedfrom=&openedto=&closedfrom=&closedto= |
| 10:41:33 | [Saint] | ELINKTOOLONG |
| 10:41:52 | [Saint] | It even points to a specific commit. |
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| 10:51:29 | [Saint] | How would I do an #ifndef for both Nano 1 and 2G? |
| 10:55:33 | [Saint] | Hmmmm...I thought there was a big deal about comment style in the coding guidelines, there is, isn't there? |
| 10:56:04 | n1s | not really, just use /* */ |
| 10:56:16 | [Saint] | yeah, that's what I mean. |
| 10:56:45 | [Saint] | The particular piece of code I want to ifndef for Nano 1~2G is using // comments |
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| 11:06:21 | * | [Saint] is unsure how to exclude a (or in this case two) specific targets with #ifndef....little help anyone? |
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| 11:09:16 | n1s | #if !defined(IPOD_NANO) && !defined(IPOD_NANO2G) |
| 11:09:18 | n1s | i think |
| 11:10:24 | [Saint] | Aha...I knew how to do one, but not two. Didn't think about && (*facepalm*) |
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| 11:11:00 | pixelma | I thought you'd want || no? |
| 11:11:07 | [Saint] | Would #ifndef IPOD_NANO && IPOD_NANO2G work also? |
| 11:11:11 | gevaerts | no |
| 11:11:39 | n1s | pixelma: if you do || with !defined like this it's always true |
| 11:11:40 | gevaerts | #if !(defined(IPOD_NANO) || defined(IPOD_NANO2G)) would work if you *really* want the || |
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| 11:12:45 | [Saint] | Hmmm...so, who's correct? ;) |
| 11:12:47 | gevaerts | [Saint]: #ifdef and #ifndef check for a specific define. "IPOD_NANO && IPOD_NANO2G" is not a define, it's a boolean expression (if even that) |
| 11:12:58 | n1s | either one, they are the same |
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| 11:13:45 | [Saint] | Ah, right. Really I could achieve the same thing just by commenting/deleting the code...but, this is nicer. |
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| 11:14:04 | [Saint] | And, those are the two targets I know to be choking on the section of code. |
| 11:14:20 | pixelma | missed the ! there |
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| 11:18:12 | [Saint] | Hmmmmm, excluding lines 1808~1810 with that ifdef seems to fix the lag in Pictureflow. |
| 11:19:17 | JdGordon | that ifdef is probably not the best way of doing it |
| 11:19:34 | JdGordon | is it something with flash disks and not actually the nanos? |
| 11:20:07 | [Saint] | csavery did all his testing on a Fuze, and never reported the problem. |
| 11:21:06 | [Saint] | gah....I ifdeffed commented code...nice one hayden. |
| 11:23:01 | [Saint] | I don't actually want the !'s in that ifdef do I? Does that not make it "if <foo> *isn't* defined, do <blah>"? |
| 11:23:34 | gevaerts | Isn't that what you actually asked for? |
| 11:23:44 | gevaerts | "exclude specific targets" |
| 11:24:25 | [Saint] | Argh...yep. I just confused myself :| |
| 11:24:32 | [Saint] | H.E.L.P |
| 11:26:38 | [Saint] | The comment for the section of code I'm removing is "// allow audio to play when fast scrolling" but it doesn't seem to have any effect on playback with it removed. |
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| 11:38:53 | [Saint] | Why is the Nano2g CPU frequency such odd numbers? 47923200 ~ 191692800 compared to the Nano1g's 24000000~30000000 ~ 80000000? |
| 11:39:16 | seani | When I'm compiling a voice file, is there a standard way to set the speed? The espeak command line allows you to specify a brisker announcement - can I feed that through? |
| 11:39:20 | [Saint] | TheSeven: ^ |
| 11:40:43 | [Saint] | seani: IIUC it should just use the values your TTS engine is configured to. |
| 11:40:59 | TheSeven | because its base clock has 1843200 Hz, and they tried to get a frequency close to 192MHz |
| 11:41:27 | TheSeven | (which makes the APB run at a quarter of that, and when idling, the CPU syncs to that frequency) |
| 11:41:57 | [Saint] | TheSeven: I'm just wondering why not use nice clean numbers...but I suppose there is a lot more to it that I don't get. |
| 11:42:36 | TheSeven | tell me how to derive a nice clean number from that base clock :) |
| 11:42:38 | [Saint] | what is the theoretical limit I could push the CPU to? |
| 11:42:54 | TheSeven | the datasheet says 200MHz, there are reports that it also runs at 250 |
| 11:43:37 | [Saint] | thefirstM said 250 also, but, I was sceptical of that personally. |
| 11:43:39 | TheSeven | the AHB is currently running at 96MHz (claims to support 100), and the APB at 48 (should also support 100) |
| 11:43:51 | CIA-9 | New commit by pixelma (r27823): First step of completing the target rename in the manual. Some target specific options were already renamed in the rest of the source (e.g. see ... |
| 11:44:12 | * | TheSeven suggests just trying to push it while keeping that that 1:2:4 relationship for now |
| 11:44:52 | TheSeven | raise Vcore to the voltage specified in the datasheet (we're currently undervolting it), and try increasing the pll dividers until it starts to get shaky |
| 11:45:24 | TheSeven | you may also want to check power consumption at the different speeds |
| 11:45:26 | [Saint] | Beyond me I think ;) I don't want to cook the poor thing :P |
| 11:45:52 | [Saint] | though, I guess I have a few to spare...tinkering in that fashion probably isn;t worth it. |
| 11:46:03 | CIA-9 | r27823 build result: All green |
| 11:48:13 | [Saint] | Another thing I am wondering is how to force the samplerate to 44.1 |
| 11:48:59 | [Saint] | In an FS task a user said that this fixes the issues with rockboy sound, but, I'm unsure he he achieved forcing the samplerate |
| 11:49:09 | [Saint] | (Nano2G) |
| 11:56:14 | CIA-9 | New commit by pixelma (r27824): Missed two files in r27823... |
| 11:57:49 | CIA-9 | r27824 build result: All green |
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| 12:03:03 | CIA-9 | New commit by pixelma (r27825): Manual: replace target options with the more appropriate button pad options in the 'Screen scroll out of view' key mapping description. |
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| 12:07:53 | hpmaniac | Doom is impossible at clip right? |
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| 12:10:26 | [Saint] | pixelma: ping? |
| 12:10:55 | pixelma | pong |
| 12:11:01 | [Saint] | BUTTON_<FOO>|BUTTON_REPEAT == "long press"...yes? |
| 12:11:48 | pixelma | usually yes but where and why might be interesting too |
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| 12:12:55 | [Saint] | Just trying to understand the keymaps a bit better, a long time ago I swapped the context menu on the iPods from "long select" to "long menu" |
| 12:13:03 | [Saint] | Just trying to remember how I did that. |
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| 12:14:22 | [Saint] | IIRC I simply swapped the button sets for quickscreen and context menu, but I seem to remember it being more complicated than that. |
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| 12:24:12 | [Saint] | Woo! yep, got it right apparently...thanks for confirming my suspicions pixelma |
| 12:24:46 | [Saint] | I'm not sure if you have an iPod, it's a small change...but it feels a lot better to use. (IMO) |
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| 12:36:23 | pixelma | I don't and all my targets have "Select" and "Context menu" on the same button, so if that's changed with your keymap, I doubt it would feel better to me ;) |
| 12:38:21 | [Saint] | I just think (personally) that the context menu feels better/makes more sense being on the big button labled "Menu", and the quickscreen being on "long select" feels quite nice to me. |
| 12:38:35 | [Saint] | But, keymaps seem to be a very personal thing. |
| 12:40:52 | CIA-9 | New commit by jdgordon (r27826): fix FS #11542 - %t() not working |
| 12:42:26 | CIA-9 | r27826 build result: All green |
| 12:43:08 | JdGordon | [Saint]: let me know if that doesnt fix all cases |
| 12:43:19 | * | JdGordon wonders why mc2739 says his patch didnt work... |
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| 12:54:43 | JdGordon | Bagder: any thoughts about making the rockbox git repo pushable so we dont need to do the git svn kludge? (assuming it can be kept in sync on the server end?) |
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| 13:14:01 | mc2739 | JdGordon: because I didn't patch in the right place, although you did say to try it in the function |
| 13:14:29 | mc2739 | I blame the lateness of the hour |
| 13:14:53 | JdGordon | still odd though, that should be equivilant |
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| 13:17:04 | mitk | kugel: Maybe you know? Does HTC Wildfire with Android 2.1 suffers from this startForeground() bug? |
| 13:17:19 | kugel | mitk: according to gevaerts yes |
| 13:18:23 | * | gevaerts is always a reliable source when it's about Android issues! |
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| 13:18:42 | gevaerts | When I tested it on a coworker's phone it seemed to not work properly in the background |
| 13:18:56 | kugel | but it should be a lot better now |
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| 13:19:19 | mitk | kugel: Then Rockbox is usable only on foreground or is usable in background but without for example Eq |
| 13:19:21 | mitk | ? |
| 13:19:39 | kugel | I can actually use it, it only stutters a little, the wildfire should be the same |
| 13:20:03 | kugel | I haven't tried the eq actually, but I expect it makes things worse |
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| 13:20:49 | kugel | but yes, without much dsp rockbox should work ok in the background |
| 13:20:54 | mitk | Thanks. Have you apk for 320x240 anywhere? |
| 13:21:42 | kugel | no but I can build you one |
| 13:21:55 | mitk | will be great. Thanks |
| 13:22:08 | kugel | however, the 240x320 cabbie has no touchscreen support so you need to use the strange grid mode (in the wps at least) |
| 13:22:14 | mc2739 | pixelma: the 1 second each was with a patch I was testing, and even that was not not accurate as it was different betwwn the wps and sbs |
| 13:22:36 | mc2739 | *between |
| 13:23:32 | mitk | ugel: Will have fun trying it :) |
| 13:23:45 | mitk | kugel^ |
| 13:24:19 | * | JdGordon is open to hearing specific problems with the fms now.... |
| 13:26:03 | mc2739 | JdGordon: FS #11469 |
| 13:30:40 | kugel | mitk: http://www.alice-dsl.net/simonemartitz/rockbox/Rockbox-240x320.apk |
| 13:31:51 | JdGordon | apps/radio/radio.c is still a bloody mess :( |
| 13:35:46 | mitk | kugel: Got it. Thanks |
| 13:42:30 | JdGordon | mc2739: [Saint]: test a fms patch? |
| 13:44:55 | mc2739 | JdGordon: sure |
| 13:45:58 | JdGordon | the freq bar seems to be fubar :D |
| 13:47:27 | JdGordon | http://pastebin.com/fSGyDfcN |
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| 13:47:33 | JdGordon | it might update too often though |
| 13:47:41 | JdGordon | and yeah, the freq bar is broken, working on that now |
| 13:47:51 | JdGordon | or at least in the hardcoded one |
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| 13:53:04 | JdGordon | yep, all good |
| 13:54:07 | thefirstM | I have a new patch for the Chopper game that increases the framerate and responsiveness of the game. I was hoping maybe someone could try it out: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11545 |
| 13:55:55 | mc2739 | JdGordon: looks good, and the hardcoded frequency bar works too (just in the wrong direction) |
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| 13:59:48 | will_ | The link for the codec pack (codec_pack.zip) is broken on page: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CodecPerformanceComparison |
| 13:59:50 | will_ | The link is in the line with this text: 'encoder pack here which contains CLI encoders' |
| 13:59:52 | will_ | I have a copy of the zip from 2008-04-18 if you want it. |
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| 14:02:29 | kugel | will_: the test files are here now: http://download.rockbox.org/test_files/ |
| 14:02:42 | kugel | does your copy have a file which is not at the new location? |
| 14:03:42 | gevaerts | kugel: I think this is about encoders, not test files |
| 14:03:47 | will_ | that will cost a lot more bandwidth than letting people encode them their selves. You sure? |
| 14:04:28 | Torne | using a standard set of files guarantees they're identical, though |
| 14:05:15 | kugel | will_: bandwidth is a not a problem IIUC |
| 14:05:32 | pixelma | the link was to DavideNYC's site if I see correctly, haven't seen him around often lately |
| 14:06:56 | pixelma | I wonder though if the encoders he packaged in there have new versions themselves though |
| 14:07:21 | will_ | yes −− don't remember which ones −− maybe all. |
| 14:07:41 | CIA-9 | New commit by jdgordon (r27827): Make %pb without any params work as expected |
| 14:07:48 | CIA-9 | New commit by jdgordon (r27828): Fix FS #11469 - make the fms update as it should |
| 14:09:20 | CIA-9 | r27827 build result: All green |
| 14:09:43 | mitk | kugel: touchscreen support for 240x320 needs changes in wps and maybe bmp only? Not in the code? |
| 14:09:56 | kugel | yea |
| 14:11:05 | CIA-9 | r27828 build result: All green |
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| 14:11:35 | JdGordon | mc2739: have you got an updated theme to test FS #11349 with? |
| 14:12:33 | JdGordon | actually, can you test that with svn again please? that one might of actually fixed it |
| 14:16:56 | mc2739 | JdGordon: FS #11349 still fails with svn |
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| 14:24:06 | balintx | yeaaaaahhhh |
| 14:24:14 | balintx | # Prebuilt 240x320: http://www.alice-dsl.net/simonemartitz/rockbox/Rockbox-240x320.apk |
| 14:24:16 | balintx | \o/ |
| 14:25:02 | JdGordon | mc2739: AFAICS that is the last major theming bug open, so if you have a theme which is updated then send it my way :) |
| 14:26:36 | mc2739 | JdGordon: give me a few minutes to zip it up |
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| 14:30:40 | kugel | JdGordon: FS #11524 is also annoying |
| 14:31:21 | JdGordon | 11524 is miscategorised :p |
| 14:31:48 | kugel | I assume it also happens on target but it doesn't result in a crash |
| 14:33:00 | mc2739 | JdGordon: http://www.datafilehost.com/download-59ad87f9.html |
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| 14:36:28 | balintx | is there any guide to touchscreen? sorry i can't find it |
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| 14:38:22 | mc2739 | JdGordon: I'll be happy to change the category on FS #11524 if it will get it fixed sooner ;-) |
| 14:38:51 | JdGordon | hehe no, I'm looking at it now... |
| 14:38:55 | JdGordon | it doesnt crash gdb though |
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| 14:40:33 | JdGordon | ah, the one in the first comment does though |
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| 14:48:36 | JdGordon | circular bloody dependancy |
| 14:50:38 | balintx | found |
| 14:50:39 | balintx | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/TouchscreenInterface |
| 14:51:07 | kugel | JdGordon: statusbar_classic.sbs triggers it as well |
| 14:51:17 | JdGordon | found and fixed |
| 14:53:25 | balintx | 'The touchscreen is currently used as a 3x3 grid of emulated "buttons".' - what is the bottom right "button"? |
| 14:53:31 | CIA-9 | New commit by jdgordon (r27829): Fix FS #11524 - a sbs could crash on load |
| 14:55:20 | CIA-9 | r27829 build result: All green |
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| 14:58:27 | JdGordon | arg! found it :) |
| 14:59:17 | mc2739 | JdGordon: the only other theme related bug I see is FS #11529 but I can't reproduce that now - maybe your pb commit fixed it |
| 14:59:24 | JdGordon | mc2739: did you notice that you return to the context menu instead of the main menu? |
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| 15:01:00 | JdGordon | %cs is getting confused because the .fmr load is manually calling radio_Screen() instead of winding back throiugh the root menu which sets the current screen var |
| 15:02:10 | JdGordon | time to get the hacksaw out! |
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| 15:10:54 | JdGordon | mc2739: arg, I'm going to "fix" it by not automatically entering the fm screen... annoynigly this is a do_menu() limitation I tihnk |
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| 15:12:09 | kugel | why did it enter the fm screen? IIRC loading a wps doesn't show the wps |
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| 15:13:13 | JdGordon | who knows... old old old old OLD code |
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| 15:15:19 | JdGordon | oh this would be from when the filebrowser was the root function |
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| 15:16:32 | CIA-9 | New commit by jdgordon (r27830): "Fix" FS #11349... %cs got confused because for some reason when the root menu was introduced the fm preset loading was never fixed to go back through ... |
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| 15:17:48 | JdGordon | 4 open theme bugs, 3 are wont/cant-fix... one is no repro :) |
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| 15:26:05 | kugel | JdGordon: loading .fms files is surely not old old old old code? :) |
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| 15:26:23 | JdGordon | fmr |
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| 15:27:49 | kugel | ah the preset files |
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| 16:43:34 | seani | long press right on the C240 pops you back to the wps from most menus. Not so on the H140. Is this a hardware thing? |
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| 16:46:16 | [Saint] | seani: Check the keymaps...I'd say it is a keymap thing. |
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| 16:49:54 | pixelma | indeed, it was hard to find a button for "resume" on the c200 and comes with the drawback that you can't force horizontal scrolling in the lists (to the right). It's probably on "Play" or something more suitable on the H100 |
| 16:51:26 | [Saint] | Nano testers...? |
| 16:51:30 | seani | Saint: Thanks, I've been staring at them and can't work them out. It looks like ACTION_STD_NEXTREPEAT is the culprit but it's present in both. |
| 16:52:01 | * | [Saint] has a look... |
| 16:52:13 | [Saint] | seani: What is your desired effect? |
| 16:53:57 | pixelma | it's the ACTION_TREE_WPS if I remember correctly. You should be able to find the correct mapping in the manual too (file browser button table) |
| 16:56:19 | seani | I don't need to change anything, just explaining to AlexW how to jump to the WPS with long right, and being totally wrong about it. I'll RTFM, ta! |
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| 16:58:00 | * | [Saint] stops messing with the H1X0 keymap... |
| 16:58:01 | [Saint] | ;) |
| 16:59:20 | pixelma | I'm pretty sure the H100 already has the action defined and most likely a better mapping than the c200 |
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| 17:15:00 | seani | It's, drumroll, PLAY. Bloody stupid if you ask me :-) |
| 17:15:26 | S_a_i_n_t | Just like iPod |
| 17:15:52 | S_a_i_n_t | Well, that's *one* way to do it, it also ends playback however. |
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| 17:16:54 | S_a_i_n_t | looking at the keymaps is an awesome way of figuring out ways to do stuff you weren't aware of. |
| 17:17:17 | n1s | the source is the best documentation :) |
| 17:17:48 | pixelma | seani: why stupid? |
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| 17:20:12 | pixelma | I'd preferred if you could put it on a "play" button too on the c200 but then that's the "up" on the pad as well and mapping going up in lists to other buttons would feel unintuitive |
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| 17:45:15 | S_a_i_n_t | where does the EQ code live? |
| 17:45:40 | seani | pixelma: it isn't, that's just my bitterness at having a more limited control set coming out :-) |
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| 18:04:25 | funman | S_a_i_n_t: apps/eq* ? |
| 18:05:06 | S_a_i_n_t | funman: Thanks...trying to figure out how that isangon guy added a 24 band EQ to his builds. |
| 18:05:25 | funman | he lists all the individual patches he applied iirc |
| 18:05:58 | S_a_i_n_t | the EQ patch says "fs#_____24_band_eq" :/ |
| 18:06:46 | funman | sue him for GPL infrigement |
| 18:06:46 | Torne | yup, yet another way the unofficial builds suck |
| 18:06:51 | Torne | funman: he provides all the changes |
| 18:06:55 | Torne | funman: just.. all in one big blob iirc |
| 18:07:05 | Torne | so you have to pick apart which code changes are each of the 30+ things he changed |
| 18:07:16 | Torne | some of which are on FS and some of which aren't |
| 18:07:31 | funman | i bet he has individual patches on his machine so just ask him to release this patch somewhere |
| 18:07:37 | S_a_i_n_t | Yeah, I can't be assed downloading the source and diffing it, then trying to figure out which of the 5 unnamed patches it is :/ |
| 18:08:02 | S_a_i_n_t | funman: I have attempted to contact him several times, I don;t think he wants to share. :/ |
| 18:08:36 | funman | did you get negative responses? |
| 18:09:06 | S_a_i_n_t | None, at all. |
| 18:09:21 | S_a_i_n_t | Tried email, contact through the forums, forum PM :/ |
| 18:09:36 | funman | wait till the end of the summer, it isn't necessarily him refusing to share, perhaps he's just busy doing something else. |
| 18:09:55 | S_a_i_n_t | it's been about 4 months now. |
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| 18:39:40 | S_a_i_n_t | mamarley: Nice work on chopper.rock by the way, runs great. |
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| 19:16:34 | S_a_i_n_t | for the lamp plugin, is adding different colours as easy as I think it may be? ie. change "#define NUM_COLOURSETS X, then add the RGB values to the colourset list"? |
| 19:16:41 | S_a_i_n_t | Or, am I missing something? |
| 19:19:46 | n1s | try it |
| 19:20:23 | * | S_a_i_n_t googles some RGB values |
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| 19:22:14 | pixelma | there is/was a patch in the tracker that added more colours but it was overengineered I think (not using RGB but something else, can't remember the details) |
| 19:22:53 | S_a_i_n_t | yes, it uses HSV values and I've never understood HSV |
| 19:31:55 | mamarley | S_a_i_n_t: Thanks! It looks even better when running on a Nano2G with my vsync patch. |
| 19:32:34 | S_a_i_n_t | mamarley: Interestingly...that Vsync patch makes my Nano2Gs run like a bag of ass. |
| 19:32:41 | S_a_i_n_t | err..."badly" |
| 19:33:16 | S_a_i_n_t | Perhaps it has something to do with you forcing your cpu up to 250? |
| 19:33:23 | S_a_i_n_t | <speculation> |
| 19:33:37 | mamarley | Yeah, it does make it slow. I have another modification that causes the CPU to boost whenever the backlight is on. That makes it alot better. I would imagine the overclock helps too. |
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| 19:51:51 | Mobius-1 | Greetings fellow rockboxians. harharhar. |
| 19:56:23 | * | n1s wonders why make dep makes the dependencies twice |
| 19:57:37 | gevaerts | Because the build system generates dependencies before doing anything else |
| 19:57:37 | gevaerts | Or something like that :) |
| 19:57:37 | n1s | yeah, make foo makes the dependencies just once :) |
| 19:58:13 | bertrik | n1s, I noticed that too, at least it shows the messages two times |
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| 20:16:13 | n1s | bertrik: make dep also takes almost twice as long as make foo |
| 20:16:37 | funman | -> make make.dep should only generate deps once |
| 20:17:42 | n1s | it does but it also claims there's nothing to be done for make.dep |
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| 20:18:28 | n1s | i also wonder why make langs doesn't make langs in a clean builddir, it just claims there's nothing to do |
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| 20:20:29 | * | S_a_i_n_t wonders why the building isn't smart enough to do "nothing to be done for: all" when building lang files |
| 20:22:10 | gevaerts | n1s: does "make langs" actually ever do anything? |
| 20:22:22 | n1s | gevaerts: doesn't seem so |
| 20:22:54 | gevaerts | I can't find an actual target with that name, only a .PHONY declaration |
| 20:23:12 | * | gevaerts suspects it's a remnant from the olden days when rockbox didn't have a name yet |
| 20:23:15 | n1s | gevaerts: that might explain it |
| 20:23:49 | mamarley | S_a_i_n_t: Do you think it might be possible to eventually get my Chopper patch included in SVN? |
| 20:24:13 | n1s | gevaerts: any reason to keep it around? |
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| 20:24:23 | gevaerts | n1s: probably not |
| 20:24:28 | S_a_i_n_t | mamarley: All patches are considered for being committed IIUC |
| 20:24:45 | S_a_i_n_t | poke a dev to look at it. |
| 20:24:54 | mamarley | Aren't you a dev? |
| 20:25:20 | S_a_i_n_t | heh, nope. |
| 20:26:05 | S_a_i_n_t | I blunder my way through everything except Themes ;) |
| 20:26:16 | gevaerts | mamarley: I had a quick look at that patch, and I don't really see what it should fix. Which player are you using? |
| 20:26:20 | n1s | hmm, generating deps doesn't seem to benefit at all from multiple jobs and it has to go through a *lot* of files |
| 20:26:40 | gevaerts | n1s: how are you testing that? |
| 20:26:56 | n1s | especially since each plugin includes plugin.h and that includes almost all the headers in the core :) |
| 20:27:00 | gevaerts | Generating deps should look at the number of CPU cores. It ignores -j numbers |
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| 20:27:23 | mamarley | gevaerts: The patch causes speed to be regulated much more smoothly than it is currently. Before, it ran at ~10fps on my Nano2G, now it runs at 60fps. |
| 20:27:28 | n1s | gevaerts: ah, it ignores -j i tested with different j numbers indeed |
| 20:27:57 | n1s | it still takes more than half of the time of a full rebuild with ccache for me |
| 20:27:59 | gevaerts | mamarley: it runs fine on all players I've ever tested it on |
| 20:28:12 | mamarley | Does it run any more smoothly? It shoud. |
| 20:28:22 | mamarley | *should |
| 20:28:56 | S_a_i_n_t | it definitely improves speed on chopper.rock for my Nano(s) |
| 20:29:41 | mamarley | S_a_i_n_t: Are they Nano1Gs, Nano2Gs, or both? I don't have any PP-targets to test it on. |
| 20:29:49 | S_a_i_n_t | both |
| 20:30:59 | S_a_i_n_t | The Nano1G didn;t seem to have much of a problem running it to begin with, and I don't recall what fps it ran at formerly...but it feels a lot smoother. I see the same changes in fps on the 2G that you do, however. |
| 20:31:47 | gevaerts | Does it still run properly (with audio) on Archoses? |
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| 20:32:07 | mamarley | I don't have an Archos to test it. |
| 20:32:18 | S_a_i_n_t | Nor do I, sorry. |
| 20:33:22 | mamarley | It would be great if somebody could test it on a player with <=64 vertical pixels, since Chopper uses a different speed for those. I tried to keep the speed the same, but the Nano2G is my only player so I couldn't test it. |
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| 20:35:17 | gevaerts | mamarley: on gigabeat F it's smoother with your patch, but also definitely faster |
| 20:36:43 | mamarley | Probably because of the faster CPU speed. Maybe I should try adding some conditional statements to reduce initial speed for the Gigabeats? |
| 20:37:42 | gevaerts | I don't see what's wrong with the original approach. It might need some tuning, but why throw out the entire mechanism? |
| 20:38:01 | n1s | ideally the game speed shouldn't be dependant on the fps but that might be a little too much work to implement :) |
| 20:38:36 | mamarley | Because it sleeps for a long time in between drawing frames, causing low framerates. I am trying to increase the framerate, since the current framerate (at least on Nano2G) is practically unplayable. |
| 20:38:55 | n1s | also the reason that it was slower on less tall screens is probably because it's a lot harder on those screens |
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| 20:50:08 | S_a_i_n_t | I wouldn't say it was unplayable on the Nano2G |
| 20:50:23 | S_a_i_n_t | This patch certaily makes it a lot smoother, but a lot harder also. |
| 20:51:10 | gevaerts | Exactly. Improving the frame rate is fine, but it shouldn't be at the cost of game balance |
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| 21:45:08 | amiconn | n1s: make deps does its own multicore handling. It wouldn't benefit from -j, and it can't use ccache |
| 21:46:18 | funman | i wanted to look at generating deps at the same time than compilation but bitmaps / langs complicate the thing |
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| 21:49:39 | n1s | amiconn: yeah, gevaerts pointed that out |
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| 22:12:04 | CIA-9 | New commit by mcuelenaere (r27831): Android port: use Arrays.fill() instead of a for-loop for clearing a byte array |
| 22:12:10 | CIA-9 | New commit by mcuelenaere (r27832): Android port: add support for hardware keys ... |
| 22:12:13 | CIA-9 | New commit by mcuelenaere (r27833): Android port: simplify sending touch events from Java->C |
| 22:12:28 | S_a_i_n_t | rapid-fire commit FTW |
| 22:13:16 | gevaerts | Nice of him to wait until after gsoc :) |
| 22:13:23 | funman | S_a_i_n_t: git svn dcommit? |
| 22:14:00 | CIA-9 | r27831 build result: All green |
| 22:16:10 | CIA-9 | r27833 build result: All green |
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| 22:45:17 | amiconn | Something is definitely wrong with pf. Frame rate drops a lot while background caching is running; observed both on H1x0 and Recorder. That shouldn't happen. |
| 22:47:02 | S_a_i_n_t | amiconn: Glad you see it too ;) |
| 22:47:06 | S_a_i_n_t | well...kinda. |
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| 22:47:44 | amiconn | It used to drop a bit, that's normal. Now it feels like it drops to 1/10 of the speed, or even lower |
| 22:47:49 | CIA-9 | New commit by mcuelenaere (r27834): Android port: allow moving application to SD card on Froyo targets |
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| 22:49:04 | S_a_i_n_t | amiconn: Commenting/ifdeffing lines 1808 to 1810 in pictureflow.c worked a treat for me. |
| 22:49:15 | S_a_i_n_t | It isn't as fast as it could be, but, a lot faster. |
| 22:49:36 | CIA-9 | r27834 build result: All green |
| 22:50:30 | S_a_i_n_t | I need to run for now, if you find out anything more about pictureflow...please leave it for me in the logs. |
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| 22:52:01 | kisak | the image of the HD200 on the build server page is incorrect |
| 22:52:39 | kisak | do we have something closer to use? |
| 22:55:00 | perfectdrug | kisak: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11177 |
| 22:55:16 | perfectdrug | which reminds me :D |
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| 23:04:52 | amiconn | gah |
| 23:05:00 | amiconn | jpeg viewer is broken on archos |
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| 23:36:14 | mamarley | Why do animations in Rockbox run more slowly when there isn't any user input? This seems to happen on my Nano2G. |
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| 23:40:58 | mamarley | It also happens with the stopwatch. It skips numbers unless I twirl the wheel or hold down a button. |
| 23:43:08 | n1s | maybe some button waiting loops sleep too long |
| 23:44:49 | mamarley | I think the buttons on the nano2g use interrupts. |
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| 23:46:16 | n1s | yes but the apps code reading the buttons is often designed as a loop that asks for a button and then does some things, this has a timeout to avoid spinning like crazy, if that timeout is long, pressing a button will make things happen noticably quicker |
| 23:47:26 | mamarley | That makes sense, but I also noticed that this happens with core things, such as animating disk access indicators in themes. Would the same thing cause it there? |
| 23:48:17 | n1s | could be, i'm just saying it's a possiblity, it has happened before but i am not certain it's causing your problems :) |
| 23:48:44 | mamarley | Thanks :) |
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| 23:51:29 | n1s | the stopwatch has a button timeout of 10 ticks or about 0.1 second and judging from the counter it's updating at about that interval for me, is it slower for you? |
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| 23:52:25 | mamarley | That is exactly what is causing the problem then. Thanks for your help! |
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