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| 02:36:55 | WilliamC | Where is the beta utility? |
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| 02:39:11 | WilliamC | I probably have the latest though. |
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| 02:40:32 | JdGordon| | what beta utility? |
| 02:41:06 | WilliamC | http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtility |
| 02:41:24 | WilliamC | I swear there is a beta version of that but it's kinda hidden, or I could be wrong. |
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| 02:44:41 | mc2739 | WilliamC: here is a link to newer versions than the release, but they are not really beta, and they have not been updated since June: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=23544.0 |
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| 02:46:27 | WilliamC | Thanks |
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| 04:57:51 | JdGordon| | is anyone else having problems with svn? |
| 04:58:50 | JdGordon| | svn co seems to work but I cant do svn up, or git svn fetch in my git tree |
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| 05:32:58 | kickkiker | À½ |
| 05:33:04 | kickkiker | ¿©±â°¡ ¶ô¹Ú½º ¼¹ö... |
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| 05:35:32 | kickkiker | Hey |
| 05:36:45 | kickkiker | Ah.Hey! |
| 05:36:58 | JdGordon| | either ask a question or get kicked |
| 05:37:01 | JdGordon| | this isnt a social channel |
| 05:37:30 | kickkiker | Ah. Sorry |
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| 05:44:50 | S_a_i_n_t | I was hoping to find TheSeven, but I'm wondering if anyone else can tell me...should "scrolling" (just, say...¼ turns on the clickwheel) cause the PCM, Alloc, Real, and Auctual Buffers to drop like a rock? |
| 05:45:09 | S_a_i_n_t | This is in the Debug Menu btw |
| 05:45:20 | JdGordon| | no |
| 05:45:23 | S_a_i_n_t | Aha. |
| 05:45:24 | JdGordon| | oh.. maybe |
| 05:45:30 | S_a_i_n_t | I have a rather cool bug then. |
| 05:45:47 | JdGordon| | scrolling kills playback when you arnt in the debug window? |
| 05:46:00 | S_a_i_n_t | Nope. |
| 05:46:06 | S_a_i_n_t | I can make it kill it though. |
| 05:46:13 | JdGordon| | then its probably just a bad keymap in that screen |
| 05:46:48 | JdGordon| | yeah, scrolling changes tracks apparently :/ |
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| 05:47:42 | kickkiker | Çѱ¹¾î ÀßÇϴ»ç¶÷ÀÌ ÀÖÀ»·Á³ª |
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| 05:48:02 | S_a_i_n_t | If I scroll eratically, or even just a couple of times (before the PCM buffer is full, or if it gets too low), then it'll quit out with a reference to something I can't even find *anything* close to in the .map file |
| 05:48:11 | JdGordon| | arg |
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| 05:49:41 | S_a_i_n_t | kickkiker: Seriosly...quit it. |
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| 05:58:17 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon: Where did you find that scrolling changes tracks in the debug menu? FWIW, it doesn't actually change tracks during playback. I'm looking in keymap-ipod.c but, perhaps I'm missing it. |
| 05:58:32 | JdGordon| | I tried it on my mini2g |
| 05:58:56 | JdGordon| | or if you look in debug_menu.c it should eb there somewhere |
| 05:59:27 | S_a_i_n_t | Ah...right, thanks. |
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| 06:05:43 | JdGordon| | S_a_i_n_t: any particular reason you are looking there? and if you're bored would you like to have a go at fixing that screen for touchscreens? |
| 06:06:28 | S_a_i_n_t | "that screen"? the debug menu? |
| 06:06:32 | JdGordon| | yeah |
| 06:06:40 | JdGordon| | no, the buffering screen |
| 06:07:09 | JdGordon| | if oyu go into that screen in stylus mode it is impossible to get out :D |
| 06:07:29 | S_a_i_n_t | I was looking there to see if I could see anything obvious as to why it's messing up the buffering...hoping it was something easy ;) |
| 06:07:38 | S_a_i_n_t | s/there/keymap/ |
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| 06:12:57 | JdGordon| | it should be pretty obvious, by the looks of it it just does audio_prev() and audio_next() on the scroll up/down actions |
| 06:13:31 | S_a_i_n_t | Hmmm...I wonder why the Nano2G isn't actually swapping tracks. |
| 06:13:50 | S_a_i_n_t | IIRC, the Nano1G doesn't do that either. |
| 06:14:07 | JdGordon| | it just trashes the buffer for you? |
| 06:14:55 | S_a_i_n_t | Yeah...if I scroll a little, the buffer drops a tiny bit...scroll some more, the buffer(s) drop halfway is...mash the clickwheel and it'll crash and reference a BS address. |
| 06:15:08 | S_a_i_n_t | s/is/ish/ |
| 06:17:12 | JdGordon| | wierd, I can keep spinning my wheel and it will only go fwd/back one track |
| 06:17:16 | JdGordon| | unless i stop |
| 06:17:42 | JdGordon| | the only other button to do anything is the back button |
| 06:17:48 | S_a_i_n_t | Odd...very, very odd. |
| 06:18:02 | JdGordon| | what rev you running? |
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| 06:18:20 | S_a_i_n_t | I tried it on an oldish build (patched) my current build (also patched) and 3.6 with the same results. |
| 06:18:27 | JdGordon| | *maybe* it has something to do with the playlist bugfix a while ago, although i doubt it |
| 06:18:33 | JdGordon| | ok |
| 06:18:34 | S_a_i_n_t | my patches shouldn't touch anything to do with the buffering. |
| 06:20:31 | webguest583 | who can commit Russian lang - FS #11556. http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11556?project=1&order=dateopened&sort=desc |
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| 06:21:06 | S_a_i_n_t | webguest583: It will be considered for committing, as long as it is on the tracker...which it is. |
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| 06:25:42 | webguest583 | Who can commit Russ lang update - FS #11556. |
| 06:25:46 | webguest583 | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11556?project=1&type=4&order=dateopened&sort=desc |
| 06:25:51 | S_a_i_n_t | webguest583: It will be considered for committing, as long as it is on the tracker...which it is. |
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| 06:26:53 | S_a_i_n_t | In other words, wait. If it is acceptable, and meets the guidlines...it should be committed. |
| 06:27:22 | S_a_i_n_t | If it is not, you'll be given clear reason as to why it was rejected. |
| 06:27:46 | webguest583 | <S_a_i_n_t>: understood, thanks |
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| 06:37:00 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon: Nice work on FS #11564! I like to add all the usability I can into my themes (support for 16px(Unifont) fonts, RTL support, %ax (viewport/alignment flipping, etc. etc.) and this adds a *whole 'nutha level* to that...awesome...truly awesoem. |
| 06:37:53 | JdGordon| | shame its getting poo pooed :p |
| 06:38:22 | S_a_i_n_t | "poo poed" by people that have no idea of the skin syntax...and see the tags as arbitrary. |
| 06:38:41 | JdGordon| | indeed.. if you want to have a play with it, let me know how it goes |
| 06:38:57 | JdGordon| | I didnt do much testing, just enough to get it working |
| 06:39:07 | S_a_i_n_t | It took me a while to read through the BS in FS #11541...and IMHO your version is a LOT more usable. |
| 06:39:23 | JdGordon| | no shit! :D |
| 06:39:24 | S_a_i_n_t | And, I will do. |
| 06:40:06 | JdGordon| | at home I've started working on it to automatically put the pauses in so the -'s arnt needed.. but making it be able ot remove that auto pause is harder than I thought :p |
| 06:41:00 | S_a_i_n_t | I see the Ab, Ac A<whatever>, #A, #B, #C tags and think *argh* now I have to remember two sets of tags for each function...even if it wasn't tied to the skins I'd see using the skin tags as....sensible. |
| 06:41:15 | S_a_i_n_t | We agree on something...should I be scared? ;P |
| 06:41:25 | JdGordon| | haw haw, probably |
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| 06:42:11 | JdGordon| | well, keeping it very simple does have advantages for the blind users, but then just having some canned sentences would be easy enough |
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| 06:42:51 | S_a_i_n_t | IIRC there's at least one blind themer floating around...or, used to be....so its definitely possible. |
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| 06:56:01 | JdGordon| | S_a_i_n_t: any ideas how to make is usable though? |
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| 06:56:23 | JdGordon| | does it need a tag to check if the hotkey was pressed? or something else? |
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| 06:57:23 | S_a_i_n_t | I think that s the better option...that way there could be a form of visual queue also |
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| 07:00:03 | ezzieyguywuf | soo, can rockbox do an "album shuffle", where it keeps all my tracks in the proper order but plays albmus at random? |
| 07:00:04 | JdGordon| | it is bassically begging for the custom variable tag also... %?HK<%?aa<talk time|talk track info|talk screen>> |
| 07:00:25 | JdGordon| | %HK is "was hotkey pressed?" and %aa is some custom variable |
| 07:01:04 | JdGordon| | ezzieyguywuf: yes, check the manual for the random folder advance |
| 07:01:46 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon: What is "some custom variable"? |
| 07:02:02 | ezzieyguywuf | JdGordon|: nice, thank you very much. |
| 07:02:28 | JdGordon| | S_a_i_n_t: a tag which counts each time it is checked, so the first time it would be 1, next time 2, etc |
| 07:02:39 | JdGordon| | so each time the hotkey is pressed a different thing would be voiced |
| 07:03:30 | JdGordon| | then it could be useful with animations also, %t(0.1)%xd(animation_label, %aa(1,12) |
| 07:03:34 | JdGordon| | ) |
| 07:03:49 | JdGordon| | %aa(min, max, step) |
| 07:03:50 | S_a_i_n_t | Ahhhh...right. gotcha. Could that also manage "if hotkey pressed while doing X, say Y", "if hotkey pressed while doing Y, say X"? |
| 07:03:55 | ezzieyguywuf | now, is there a way to easily, "skip to next folder"? |
| 07:04:05 | JdGordon| | that is also in the manual |
| 07:04:08 | S_a_i_n_t | ezzieyguywuf: RTFM ;) |
| 07:04:25 | JdGordon| | "while doing Y"? |
| 07:04:50 | S_a_i_n_t | if hotkey pressed while playing, say X...if pressed while paused, say Z...etc. |
| 07:04:58 | ezzieyguywuf | ok, will do. Sorry to distract you guys from making rockbox more awesome :-P |
| 07:05:17 | JdGordon| | S_a_i_n_t: sure, just put it inside the %?mp() tag |
| 07:05:51 | S_a_i_n_t | Ah, right...I wasn't sure if the "%aa" was essential. |
| 07:06:04 | S_a_i_n_t | Or, was going to be essential, rather. |
| 07:06:43 | JdGordon| | no, I just like building up incredibly complicated examples to confuse people into submission :D |
| 07:07:20 | S_a_i_n_t | You could get some really awesomely complicated conditional statements going with this...I already have a few I'm scared of revisiting with adding this in ;) |
| 07:07:35 | S_a_i_n_t | errr...without rather |
| 07:07:55 | JdGordon| | "this" ==? |
| 07:09:23 | S_a_i_n_t | voicing in the skins |
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| 07:12:19 | JdGordon| | I might be able to add a "voice and text" option to cut down on the skin code duplication |
| 07:13:02 | JdGordon| | I'm not sure if that would make much sense though |
| 07:13:26 | S_a_i_n_t | Ah...so, display it as normal unless <magic tag> is present, and voice it and display it if <magic tag> is present? |
| 07:13:47 | S_a_i_n_t | Or, something totally different? |
| 07:14:13 | JdGordon| | yeah, something like that |
| 07:17:20 | S_a_i_n_t | Ah...I'm reminded now that I tried the shopper.rock plugin the other day out of curiousity, and I was going to the supermarket anyways. |
| 07:17:41 | S_a_i_n_t | Turns out its completely useless if the theme turns "Display Icons" off :/ |
| 07:18:26 | S_a_i_n_t | Surely there's a workaround for that that doesn't involve me turning icons on/off to use the plugin? |
| 07:18:57 | JdGordon| | yes |
| 07:19:00 | JdGordon| | fix the plugin |
| 07:19:07 | S_a_i_n_t | ;) |
| 07:19:15 | JdGordon| | make it tell the lists to draw the icons |
| 07:19:41 | S_a_i_n_t | Heh, my intended fix was a lot sompler than that...but, ok ;) |
| 07:19:48 | S_a_i_n_t | *simpler, even. |
| 07:21:06 | JdGordon| | ah, what you really want is a shopper.sbs which really is %set(icons, 1)\n%run(shopper)\n%unset(icons)\n :) |
| 07:21:11 | JdGordon| | all using the skin engine of course |
| 07:21:40 | S_a_i_n_t | Mmmmmmm....plugin .sbs |
| 07:21:43 | * | S_a_i_n_t drools |
| 07:22:02 | JdGordon| | you mean displaying the sbs in the plugin? |
| 07:22:39 | S_a_i_n_t | yeah. |
| 07:22:54 | JdGordon| | it only doesnt because the plugin isnt written correctly |
| 07:23:13 | JdGordon| | it actually *might* be and it just needs 2 lines to enable it |
| 07:23:56 | S_a_i_n_t | I guess what I really want is a UI viewport I can force for plugins |
| 07:24:13 | S_a_i_n_t | I'd like to always have my .sbs |
| 07:26:10 | JdGordon| | well we cant do that because alot of the plugins are done to take the whole screen |
| 07:26:38 | JdGordon| | then there are the ones which use the screen api correctly and will just work with a few lines changed |
| 07:26:46 | JdGordon| | but it needs someone to do the work |
| 07:27:16 | * | S_a_i_n_t plays involuntary spin the bottle to name someone as Mr.Someone. |
| 07:27:17 | JdGordon| | adding a plugin item to the %cs so the ui viewport can be set correctly is also a useful change if the above happens |
| 07:30:01 | JdGordon| | it is incredibly simple if you can be bothered... just in each plugins plugin_start() add rb->viewportmanager_theme_enable(i, true, NULL) and then rb->viewportmanager_theme_undo(i, NULL) before it exits and see if it works |
| 07:30:19 | JdGordon| | where i is the screen number (so inside FOR_NB_SCREENS(i) |
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| 07:49:05 | wodz | JdGordon: ping |
| 07:50:17 | JdGordon| | pong |
| 07:52:22 | wodz | why do You duplicate the setting in patch You have kindly provided? I mean global_settings.wm875xbass_mode and 1<<31 in global_settings.wm875xbass ? |
| 07:53:03 | JdGordon| | the first is so you know which mode the user was in when he set that setting |
| 07:53:12 | wodz | yes |
| 07:53:21 | JdGordon| | because 1 in the db mode != 1 in liniear mode |
| 07:53:42 | JdGordon| | maybe there is a better way of doing it thoguh |
| 07:54:28 | JdGordon| | hmm, yeah, maybe shifting the values up so 0 in db mode is really 4 in linear |
| 07:55:25 | wodz | I don't get - you have setting for wm875xbass_mode (and callback which take care of calling lowlevel function in driver) and setting for setting actual value (according to selected mode) |
| 07:55:36 | wodz | so why mix the two? |
| 07:56:16 | JdGordon| | to handle the edge values which are dupes |
| 07:56:23 | JdGordon| | it might not be needed |
| 07:57:07 | * | JdGordon| opens the pastebin link again |
| 07:57:40 | wodz | BTW. I made extensive testing yesterday with spectrum analyzer and the difference is quite subtle so this is no problem to switch mode without changing value |
| 07:58:05 | wodz | it will not blow your ears :-) |
| 07:59:01 | JdGordon| | oh good :D |
| 07:59:31 | JdGordon| | ok, in one mode there are 11 values? and the other 15? |
| 07:59:42 | wodz | and with spectrum analyzer I finally understood what bass cutoff and treble cutoff do actually - datasheet for wm875x is very cryptic |
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| 08:00:46 | wodz | JdGordon|: technically speaking in both modes there are 8bit register you write value to - all values are valid but in linear mode some are just dups |
| 08:01:13 | wodz | s/there are 8bit/there is 8bit/g |
| 08:01:15 | JdGordon| | yes, but from the users point of view |
| 08:01:31 | wodz | from the user point of view you are right |
| 08:02:23 | wodz | but since all 16 values are valid there is no problem when switching modes |
| 08:02:44 | wodz | arrgh 4bit register |
| 08:02:46 | JdGordon| | so when in the mode with 16 values it is set to 2, then it changes to the other mode.. the 2 == -60 which is one of the dupes so we really want that dislayed as -45 |
| 08:04:37 | wodz | why? |
| 08:05:02 | JdGordon| | well, we dont want to display the dupes right? |
| 08:05:07 | wodz | yes |
| 08:06:04 | wodz | maybe simple array with transform reg<->value will be easier? |
| 08:06:27 | wodz | it is just 11 chars |
| 08:10:58 | wodz | when I hit something like this I always wonder why people like to such complicate life of others |
| 08:15:46 | JdGordon| | hehe, a simpler answer is always storing 0->16 in the setting and just add/subtract 4(?) in the setter ui |
| 08:16:47 | JdGordon| | the list needs to know how many items are in it so it will always set 0 <= selected_item < count |
| 08:17:20 | wodz | nope this will not work as setting 0xff is common to both modes and means off :-P |
| 08:17:38 | JdGordon| | yes so a bit more magic would be needed |
| 08:18:20 | wodz | I love this I wonder why they didn't changed bit order in register between two modes :P |
| 08:19:02 | wodz | or XOR with some arbitrary mask |
| 08:20:08 | JdGordon| | because that would need extra hardware :) |
| 08:20:35 | S_a_i_n_t | Ahhh, another interesting Nano2G debug screen thing I discovered in my week of abscence is that holding a finger on the clickwheel while in the CPU frequency screen makes it flip ("it" == boost value) between 1 and 0 rather quickly. |
| 08:20:43 | S_a_i_n_t | A button repeat problem I suspect. |
| 08:21:00 | wodz | few gates doesn't count :-) |
| 08:29:17 | wodz | S_a_i_n_t: what about battery charging icons? |
| 08:30:09 | JdGordon| | wodz: if you dont figure it out I'll have another play tonight after dinner if oyu like |
| 08:31:09 | S_a_i_n_t | Heh, interesting story there...you may (or may not) have noticed I haven't been around for the past few days...and in that time I lost a HDD (the one with most of my RB stuff on it) :/ |
| 08:31:33 | S_a_i_n_t | I got my PC sorted, and the internet back on today...so it shouldn;t take me too long to recreate what I had. |
| 08:31:49 | wodz | I have ~0.5 hour to play with rb and than I have to go work unfortunately. |
| 08:32:45 | wodz | S_a_i_n_t: yes HDD lost is a BIG pain |
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| 09:16:25 | amiconn | [06:17:11] <JdGordon|> wierd, I can keep spinning my wheel and it will only go fwd/back one track |
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| 09:16:53 | amiconn | ^ Not weird at all if it triggers only on the plain events but not the repeat events |
| 09:17:11 | amiconn | This is in fact a very useful thing which is used in a few other places as well |
| 09:18:49 | S_a_i_n_t | amiconn: I think the "weird" was more to do with the fact that I can keep scrolling untill I can force the buffer to continually refresh itself until it crashes the player. |
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| 09:34:42 | wodz | JdGordon|: I get a few strange warning with your code |
| 09:35:09 | JdGordon| | hey are safe to ignore, but need to be fixed (obviously) :p |
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| 09:36:53 | wodz | http://www.pastie.org/1114374 |
| 09:37:25 | wodz | and compiler complains about implicit snprintf() in sound_menu.c |
| 09:37:37 | JdGordon| | ah woops |
| 09:37:44 | JdGordon| | that should be (int)defaultval |
| 09:38:18 | * | wodz recompiling |
| 09:38:46 | JdGordon| | that might fail on 64bit builds though |
| 09:39:20 | wodz | do we have 64bit target? |
| 09:39:48 | wodz | where is snprintf declared? strings.h? |
| 09:40:32 | JdGordon| | 64bit sim builds |
| 09:40:45 | JdGordon| | string.h or printf.h or something along those lines |
| 09:43:18 | wodz | currently I don't care about sim builds |
| 09:47:53 | wodz | what the hell I can't find header file that prototypes snprintf() |
| 09:49:16 | wodz | stdio.h :-) |
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| 09:58:57 | wodz | this new ubuntu is going to kill me - LTS is acro for Long Term Sucker I think |
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| 10:07:32 | JdGordon| | anyone else having problems with git svn? or just svn? |
| 10:09:21 | AlexP | JdGordon|: Seems OK (git svn rebase was fine anyway) |
| 10:09:57 | JdGordon| | something is screwed on my end then :( I can ping, and svn co, but neither svn up or git svn works |
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| 10:14:51 | JdGordon| | ping is crazy slow, but works |
| 10:14:54 | JdGordon| | 500ms! |
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| 10:18:01 | AlexP | JdGordon|: Very variable here - between 120 and 500 ms |
| 10:18:55 | B4gder | 30 ms here! ;-) |
| 10:19:10 | AlexP | cheat :) |
| 10:20:16 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon: Some form of australasian screwup? |
| 10:20:22 | S_a_i_n_t | Its screwy here too. |
| 10:20:30 | S_a_i_n_t | Been trying to svn up for a while now. |
| 10:20:30 | AlexP | Ah, that's as I was downloading stuff - it is actually consistently 80 ms now |
| 10:20:44 | AlexP | I'd guess the antipodean link is the issue |
| 10:21:22 | JdGordon| | why the heck would "svn co" work though? |
| 10:21:33 | S_a_i_n_t | pass. |
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| 11:08:14 | seani | Any recommendations for decent editors for RB source? I favour JEdit but it has focus problems with i3 that make it unusable; Scite is a bit too lightweight for navigation within largish files (no split screen) and between many files. |
| 11:08:20 | seani | Course being unfamiliar with the code, grown fat and lazy on intellisense and just getting old and mentally soft aren't helping |
| 11:09:35 | TheSeven | if you have vs anyway, have you tried to import rockbox as a c++ project? this should work for most things at least |
| 11:12:27 | seani | TheSeven: Hmm, see what you mean. VS is safely corralled in VMWare where it can't hurt itself *but* split screen support is still appallingly poor in VSxxxx. |
| 11:13:03 | JdGord | Get vs2010 |
| 11:13:16 | JdGord | Split window/screen is aweseome |
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| 11:17:57 | B4gder | emacs! |
| 11:18:06 | * | TheSeven throws vim at B4gder |
| 11:18:22 | B4gder | meh |
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| 11:24:55 | seani | JdGord: I have it unused in a box, but I'll check it out, thanks. Feels a bit bizarre hosting / building on Linux, editing from VS in a VM, like I'm sneaking out from the bedroom to the brothel. Should report the i3 focus bug in any case. Ta! |
| 11:25:22 | JdGord | Haha indeed |
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| 11:56:21 | TheSeven | seani: I'm doing it the other way round, which is probably more comfortable: I use windows as my main OS on my laptop, with a big screen attached to it, I'm building ssh'ed into an old headless linux box, and I'm editing the files using VS via a samba share (and TortoiseSVN sometimes also comes in handy via that share) |
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| 12:25:38 | funman | is sss on irc? (the guy who is soldering a SDRAM chip on his fuzev1) |
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| 12:32:07 | funman | i have reduced the size of bss segment in fuzev1 bootloader, but disk_init() fails if i put bss in IRAM, and it boots fine if i leave it in DRAM |
| 12:34:24 | funman | the last 2 bytes of the first sector are 0 0 instead of 0x55 0xaa :o |
| 12:34:46 | TheSeven | dma fail? |
| 12:35:34 | funman | i am not sure, it should handle IRAM ok; this buffer is on stack anyway so it shouldn't have changed location |
| 12:36:19 | funman | oh oops yes i see the problem |
| 12:36:35 | funman | the temporary (aligned) buffer is in bss and we don't use it's physical addr |
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| 12:43:55 | funman | now rockbox.sansa is found with correct length but rockbox can't seek & read the checksum ? |
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| 12:49:15 | funman | pamaury: ping |
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| 12:51:11 | TheSeven | funman: how does it fail? panics? |
| 12:51:47 | funman | no, load_firmware() just returns EREAD_CHKSUM_FAILED |
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| 12:52:31 | TheSeven | can you determine which storage function failed, and with which return code? |
| 12:55:42 | funman | fixed it: i had forgotten to convert a dma buffer in sd-as3525.c |
| 12:55:55 | funman | so the storage could only access 1/4 of the real capacity |
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| 13:10:44 | CIA-81 | New commit by funman (r27876): sd-as3525*: use AS3525_PHYSICAL_ADDR ... |
| 13:10:50 | CIA-81 | New commit by funman (r27877): usb-drv-as3525: only give physical addresses to USB HW |
| 13:12:40 | CIA-81 | r27876 build result: 18 errors, 0 warnings (funman committed) |
| 13:14:28 | CIA-81 | r27877 build result: 18 errors, 0 warnings (funman committed) |
| 13:15:09 | CIA-81 | New commit by funman (r27878): typo in r27876 |
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| 13:20:13 | funman | hmm why the red delta on those? aligned_buffer should be known constant at compile time? |
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| 15:00:43 | pamaury | fuck funman quit before I could answer |
| 15:01:45 | pamaury | someone know what he wanted ? |
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| 15:09:19 | pamaury | perhaps because I should switch to AS3525_PHYSICAL_ADDR in the usbv2 code |
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| 15:30:35 | * | S_a_i_n_t thanks whoever it was that added him to the credits. |
| 15:31:59 | S_a_i_n_t | 548 names and a butt-load of "teams"...wow. |
| 15:42:57 | S_a_i_n_t | Are any targets still using arm-elf? I *really* want to edit the CygWin wiki...but, it'll be a mess if there are no prebuilt toolchains. |
| 15:43:35 | S_a_i_n_t | I'd hate to have to do "for targets X, Y and Z...download these toolchains but for A, B and C you'll have to do <blah>" |
| 15:44:40 | S_a_i_n_t | <blah> == seemingly intimidating running of rockboxdev.sh and the compilation of SDL from source as well. |
| 15:45:17 | CIA-81 | New commit by funman (r27879): Manual: fix Sansa AMS install ... |
| 15:45:24 | JdGordon | check configure.. i tihnk all are using the eabi compiler though |
| 15:46:00 | S_a_i_n_t | Well, that's good...any CygWin devs on a decent connection around? |
| 15:46:24 | S_a_i_n_t | Some prebuilt toolchains to link to will make my GygWin wiki update mission a LOT easier. |
| 15:46:54 | S_a_i_n_t | I could do it myself, but with my connection at present it would literally take a week to upload them all. |
| 15:46:55 | CIA-81 | r27879 build result: All green |
| 15:47:20 | S_a_i_n_t | s/week/few days at least/ |
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| 15:52:20 | Guest50681 | hi everybody |
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| 15:53:24 | B_A | may i ask few question about the installation of rockbox on ipod nano 1st gen? |
| 15:53:41 | S_a_i_n_t | lesson 1: "Don't ask to ask"...and, yes. |
| 15:54:30 | B_A | lesson 2: when you first enter in a irc chan be polite :) |
| 15:54:56 | B_A | by the way, to install rockbox i need to erase all the datas in the ipod? |
| 15:55:01 | S_a_i_n_t | Lesson 3: Read the topic ;) |
| 15:55:17 | B_A | my fault |
| 15:55:19 | S_a_i_n_t | And no, you don't need to do that at all. |
| 15:55:28 | S_a_i_n_t | You can keep all the data on the device |
| 15:55:35 | B_A | because he said that i have no enough space |
| 15:56:22 | B_A | i suppouse on the ipod, cause on the pc i have it |
| 15:56:23 | S_a_i_n_t | well, that just means there is not enough room for the installation...it doesn't mean you need to delete *all* the data |
| 15:56:35 | B_A | ok, how much? |
| 15:57:10 | S_a_i_n_t | that depends on what you install...my .rockbox folder is ~500MB |
| 15:57:25 | nls | ~10MB or so should be enough i think for an install, make it 20 to have space for database files and themes maybe |
| 15:57:25 | gevaerts | You're insane though |
| 15:57:42 | JdGordon | what the FUCK!? |
| 15:57:45 | S_a_i_n_t | gevaerts: debateble! |
| 15:57:53 | S_a_i_n_t | err..spelt correctly. |
| 15:58:08 | S_a_i_n_t | JdGordon: Dictionaries |
| 15:58:56 | B_A | ok, i read that mp3 are better placed in the .rockbox directory |
| 15:59:14 | gevaerts | Where did you read that? |
| 15:59:15 | nls | B_A: no, *not* there |
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| 15:59:31 | gevaerts | Putting them there is a bad idea |
| 15:59:45 | S_a_i_n_t | especially if you want the database to find them |
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| 16:00:04 | B_A | ok, i read the manual |
| 16:00:17 | B_A | but it's possible that i misunderstood |
| 16:01:11 | S_a_i_n_t | the font pack is ~15MB, .rockbox is ~10MB and giving yourself 5MB for themes seems fair. So 30MB should be fine if you can clear that much. |
| 16:01:42 | CIA-81 | New commit by funman (r27880): c200v2 manual |
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| 16:03:08 | freddyb | I was wondering about drop shadows. Is something like this a complete NO DO? http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/7707/dropshadows.png |
| 16:03:25 | CIA-81 | r27880 build result: All green |
| 16:03:32 | S_a_i_n_t | freddyb: check the NODO list. |
| 16:03:41 | S_a_i_n_t | it's actually *very* small. |
| 16:03:43 | JdGordon | freddyb: I must be drunk... that isnt readble |
| 16:04:00 | S_a_i_n_t | aliased fonts gone wrong ;) |
| 16:04:02 | JdGordon | and I still want to commit that skin font patch but svn isnt bloody working for me :/ |
| 16:04:18 | gevaerts | freddyb: I'd say it's a "let's discuss this" :) |
| 16:04:38 | freddyb | It's a little fuzzy but then you ARE drunk... |
| 16:05:37 | S_a_i_n_t | As an option, I wouldn't see why not...unless it adds a HUGE binsize increase...forced, I'd say no. |
| 16:05:37 | S_a_i_n_t | Well, I'd say yes...but plenty of others would say no ;) |
| 16:05:54 | gevaerts | freddyb: how exactly would you do this? A special font, or algorithmically? |
| 16:06:24 | S_a_i_n_t | I imagine doing it cheaply by overlapping viewports :D |
| 16:06:37 | S_a_i_n_t | not the best way, however. |
| 16:07:33 | freddyb | To do it right would be something like an alignment tag with an offset and then render the background color and then the foreground colour. The problem is twice the text rendering. |
| 16:08:09 | S_a_i_n_t | freddyb: The space between the Y's and the following char in that font is *way* too large...it looks odd. |
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| 16:08:37 | gevaerts | freddyb: doing it that way should actually be pretty cheap, code-wise |
| 16:10:27 | CIA-81 | New commit by funman (r27881): Add 'lowmem' feature to the manual, defined if MEM <= 2 ... |
| 16:11:40 | CIA-81 | New commit by jdgordon (r27882): Accept FS #11567 by Fred Bauer - better memory management for the skin fonts ... |
| 16:12:04 | CIA-81 | r27881 build result: All green |
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| 16:13:56 | CIA-81 | r27882 build result: 144 errors, 52 warnings (jdgordon committed) |
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| 16:14:09 | S_a_i_n_t | Awesome :D |
| 16:14:12 | JdGordon | wtf? |
| 16:14:18 | JdGordon | oh bugger |
| 16:18:10 | * | JdGordon grumbles at freddyb and checkwps :/ |
| 16:18:19 | freddyb | S_a_i_n_t: the font system doesn't allow for overlapping fonts. There's no kerning info. |
| 16:18:48 | freddyb | What did I do? |
| 16:18:55 | S_a_i_n_t | you *can* do it though...it just has a very low sucess rate. |
| 16:19:19 | S_a_i_n_t | and, very small chances of updating correctly, and displaying how you want it. |
| 16:21:29 | S_a_i_n_t | If the text doesn't scroll, it looked OK IIRC...I haven't experimented with this in the new parser though...if that even makes a difference. |
| 16:21:45 | S_a_i_n_t | But, I did try and achieve this effect in a theme a while back. |
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| 16:23:33 | CIA-81 | New commit by jdgordon (r27883): fix errors |
| 16:24:36 | | Part B_A ("thank you all") |
| 16:25:17 | CIA-81 | r27883 build result: All green |
| 16:28:01 | freddyb | JdGordon: Sorry about that. |
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| 16:52:55 | MichaelAdams | how can i get added to the WikiUsersGroup ? i have an fmr file to upload |
| 16:54:11 | S_a_i_n_t | MichaelAdams: The best thing you can do, is ask here...and you've done that. |
| 16:54:31 | S_a_i_n_t | Someone (with the access) will happen upon your post and add you in due time. |
| 16:55:07 | MichaelAdams | ok thanks. Just logged into the chat for the first time :) thanks for the timely response! |
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| 16:56:30 | S_a_i_n_t | The channel is logged, so if you want to know when your rights have been given, just idle in the channel until someone pops along that can add you to the usergroup. |
| 16:56:48 | MichaelAdams | sounds great. im good at idling LOL |
| 16:58:57 | mc2739 | MichaelAdams: done |
| 16:59:33 | MichaelAdams | thanks! i will get my file in then |
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| 17:00:55 | MichaelAdams | any special guidelines when uploading fmr files? |
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| 17:12:21 | pixelma | MichaelAdams: personally, Ifind it nice if one states the date it was submitted (or if far off, when it was created) so I can easily see how up-to-date it likely is |
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| 17:13:14 | MichaelAdams | cool i updated that info into the upload so its there. it does not show on the main page, do i need to check the create link option for it to show on the page? |
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| 17:16:25 | mc2739 | MichaelAdams: you can copy/paste a another location listing and edit it to match your state/city/etc. |
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| 17:21:41 | MichaelAdams | thanks mc will do |
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| 17:38:26 | pixelma | I'm running out of ideas what to try to find out which element(s) cause the hang on starting playback with my WPS on the Ondio which doesn't happem with other WPSs :\ |
| 17:39:11 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: Pastebin the WPS? I could have a play while I'm free. |
| 17:40:01 | pixelma | it only happens on target and the WPS loads fine and shows no errors in a sim and worked before... |
| 17:40:32 | S_a_i_n_t | Ah.... *weird* |
| 17:40:36 | S_a_i_n_t | Playlistviewer? |
| 17:40:57 | MichaelAdams | I've noticed an intermittent issue with cross fade on the sansa e260. sometimes it goes staticy, almost as if skipping when FF is hit |
| 17:41:19 | pixelma | S_a_i_n_t: no. Actually there is a test line with it but commented out |
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| 17:43:34 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: I assume you've commented out lines/elements systematically to eliminate them? |
| 17:44:25 | pixelma | yeah, only one at a time though. I also wrote some test.wps with elements I could imagine being the culprit |
| 17:45:45 | pixelma | maybe I should try a binary search style disabling of lines. Additionally or alternatively, I should try to find out when exactly it stopped working |
| 17:46:04 | pixelma | it's just so time consuming :\ |
| 17:46:08 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: When that happens to me, I go down the theme starting with the first line (even if it *seems* harmless) until I hit the line/viewport that's messing me up. |
| 17:46:25 | S_a_i_n_t | ie. I'll even comment out %we/d |
| 17:47:10 | S_a_i_n_t | every line gets commented one by one until I find the one messing the tmeme up...t can be *very* annoying. |
| 17:47:22 | pixelma | don't you have to be careful with (conditional) viewports? |
| 17:47:33 | S_a_i_n_t | But, I have found that sometimes it can be a combination of things that work fine seperately...but not together. |
| 17:48:29 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: I usually eliminate the conditions in that case (firstly) so all cases are "true" |
| 17:48:51 | S_a_i_n_t | if that doesn't work, I'll try making seperate cases "true" one by one. |
| 17:48:56 | S_a_i_n_t | It can be a PITA |
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| 17:51:53 | pixelma | if you want to have a look anyway, I could still paste it |
| 17:52:35 | S_a_i_n_t | Sometimes it can pay to have another set of eyes on your code, experience has told me its hard to see errors in your own code. |
| 17:52:44 | S_a_i_n_t | (not saying there are any, though) |
| 17:53:01 | MichaelAdams | Fresh eyes offer a new outlook |
| 17:55:14 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma; So, yeah...sure. Why not. No promises of magic fixes though ;D |
| 17:56:52 | pixelma | I more expect an idea what to put in a bug report anyway... just found one more thing to try though. I'll post it if this is still not the problem |
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| 17:58:15 | pixelma | S_a_i_n_t: do you have WPS where you preload an image and use it in different viewports lateer on? |
| 17:58:30 | S_a_i_n_t | yes. |
| 17:59:04 | S_a_i_n_t | But, all my targets are Flash...so I rarely see any delays that others do. |
| 17:59:14 | S_a_i_n_t | However, your X5 is SSD no? |
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| 18:00:11 | pixelma | my M5 is :P ...but as I said, I'm currently investigating a problem with my Ondio |
| 18:01:02 | S_a_i_n_t | Ah, oops. Where did I pull X5 from? :-S |
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| 18:12:53 | pixelma | hmm, that's not it... S_a_i_n_t, if you still want to have a look: http://pastebin.com/jJYVEhiH (used with a 9-pixel tall font and three bitmap strips) |
| 18:15:00 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: Did the delay seem to happen at an arbitrary revision? Or, was it around the time of the parser change you noticed it? |
| 18:15:19 | S_a_i_n_t | Not blaming the parser, just curious. |
| 18:15:23 | pixelma | delay? It hangs and I have to hard power-off |
| 18:15:37 | S_a_i_n_t | Oh...right. |
| 18:16:31 | S_a_i_n_t | Line 6 strikes me immediately. |
| 18:16:50 | S_a_i_n_t | It shouldn't ne necessary to clear it by force this way anymore |
| 18:16:55 | S_a_i_n_t | *be |
| 18:17:00 | pixelma | already tried to commenting it out |
| 18:17:41 | pixelma | I'm not so sure it's not needed on hwcodec anymore |
| 18:19:53 | S_a_i_n_t | heh, I'm not the only one with foolishly complicated conditional statements to cover most possibly outcomes ;) |
| 18:20:02 | S_a_i_n_t | *possible |
| 18:21:49 | pixelma | I only noticed after an update, I saw the WPS working with the new parser already though and I have a revision here that works with the same file correctly, it's already a bit old though (r26849) |
| 18:22:37 | kaiscene | somewhere between release ...75 and the current build ...83, my theme doesn't load on the target device, but passes checkWPS. the simulator download is only up to release ...75 - is there a way to get the current build's simulator? |
| 18:22:45 | S_a_i_n_t | It's only one file the theme is choking on? Or all? |
| 18:22:53 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: ^ |
| 18:23:21 | S_a_i_n_t | kaiscene: Sure, build it yourself. |
| 18:24:06 | pixelma | S_a_i_n_t: only that one |
| 18:24:35 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: Have you looked at the tags (potentially silly question, but, worth a try) |
| 18:24:44 | S_a_i_n_t | +? |
| 18:25:50 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: From what I see from you're code, although there are things that can be done differently...there's nothing "wrong". |
| 18:27:22 | pixelma | looked at the tags in what way? I surely did... one thing I know can be improved now is the shuffle and repeat sublines but that shouldn't be a problem |
| 18:28:05 | S_a_i_n_t | line 21 can be cut in half, also. |
| 18:28:26 | pixelma | that is the one I meant |
| 18:28:34 | S_a_i_n_t | it doesn't seem to need to subline...but, you may want an effect I can't see without the images. |
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| 18:28:44 | S_a_i_n_t | Ah, right. |
| 18:29:41 | pixelma | shuffle and repeat icons are at the same spot (to save space and because *I* don't see them often anyway), display alternatingly |
| 18:29:50 | S_a_i_n_t | My only suggestion is to strip the file of tags completely, (back it up forst of course) and see if it plays then. |
| 18:30:12 | S_a_i_n_t | I have found a few files with tags that got magically corrupted in some way. |
| 18:30:23 | S_a_i_n_t | +of mine. |
| 18:30:31 | pixelma | or "constantly" if only one of the modes is active |
| 18:31:15 | pixelma | you mean metadata tags? |
| 18:31:20 | S_a_i_n_t | yeah. |
| 18:31:40 | pixelma | why should that give different results depending on the theme? |
| 18:32:18 | S_a_i_n_t | I see you use "Grouping"...which to me is fairly rare, do all your themes use the same conditions? |
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| 18:34:59 | pixelma | no, I only use grouping there, but those tags hadn't been touched recently. I'll try without the "%iG"s though, and maybe different audio files though I already did the latter I think |
| 18:36:02 | pixelma | the last files I tried don't have the grouping tag set though |
| 18:36:10 | S_a_i_n_t | The only reason I suggest that is in my experience when a theme chokes on a specific file, it has been the metadata tags at fault. |
| 18:36:30 | S_a_i_n_t | And, one occasion it was a playlistviewer. |
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| 18:47:07 | S_a_i_n_t | line 31 strikes me as weird, ...not wrong, not a problem, just weird. |
| 18:47:15 | S_a_i_n_t | I can't imagine the use case for it. |
| 18:47:20 | MichaelAdams | code smell? |
| 18:47:50 | S_a_i_n_t | At first I was looking for a viewport conditional to %?mh also, but didn't find it. |
| 18:48:46 | pixelma | what's odd about it? |
| 18:49:01 | S_a_i_n_t | It simply pops up the word "Main" when hold is on? |
| 18:49:28 | S_a_i_n_t | I was expecting that to happen, as well as an info viewport conditional to hold. |
| 18:50:56 | pixelma | yes. The "Main" comes from the fact that I use the same basic design on my M5 WPS and there it can be "Main", "Remote" or "Both"... and that is the info viewport |
| 18:51:09 | pixelma | or in the info viewport |
| 18:51:44 | S_a_i_n_t | Aaaahhh, right. I knew it wouldn't simplt be arbitrary. |
| 18:51:51 | S_a_i_n_t | *simply |
| 18:52:02 | S_a_i_n_t | I just couldn't imagine how you were using it. |
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| 18:53:26 | S_a_i_n_t | I'm about 99.9% convinced that the problem doesn't involve the skin code though...I just wish I had an answer for you. |
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| 18:57:08 | pixelma | there must be something very very fishy... I first removed the %iG conditional in line 36 and because I was too lazy to find out the complete conditional logic in the last line, I simplified that one greatly. Playback didn't hang anymore then but my static image doesn't show anymore (already reported I think). *But* I put line 26 back to what it was, playback still doesn't hang but the WPS doesn't work as expected anymore with files that have the |
| 18:57:09 | pixelma | grouping tag :\ |
| 18:57:18 | CIA-81 | New commit by bertrik (r27884): Updated Russian translation - FS #11556 by Alexey Polkhirev |
| 18:57:36 | pixelma | s/26/36 |
| 18:57:55 | S_a_i_n_t | I *knew* it had something to do with "Grouping" \o/ |
| 18:58:18 | S_a_i_n_t | It isn't very commonlu used, so, didn't get much testing I imagine. |
| 18:58:30 | S_a_i_n_t | bah...*"commonly" |
| 18:59:22 | CIA-81 | r27884 build result: 0 errors, 30 warnings (bertrik committed) |
| 18:59:38 | mc2739 | kugel: (logs) FS #11570 and http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=25575.0 |
| 18:59:40 | pixelma | well, why doesn't it break completely again when I put one line back? I should try putting the other back to what it was too |
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| 19:00:09 | bertrik | meh! |
| 19:00:12 | S_a_i_n_t | that, I have no answer for. |
| 19:00:40 | S_a_i_n_t | "." doesn't need escaping does it? |
| 19:01:12 | pixelma | and the evaluation seems to already broken in r26849, still it doesn't hang the player |
| 19:01:19 | pixelma | +be |
| 19:01:27 | pixelma | don't think so |
| 19:02:57 | S_a_i_n_t | perhaps %?iG is always "true"...so, 36 fails on displaying the "false" if it is indeed false? |
| 19:03:03 | S_a_i_n_t | <wild speculation> |
| 19:05:50 | S_a_i_n_t | A simple way to test if it is indeed the Grouping<true|false> tag would be (there are two ways) 1: (probably easier) comment out lines 36 and 46, or 2: (only a little harder) remove the "Grouping" metadata tags from the file(s) |
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| 19:09:14 | * | S_a_i_n_t is reminded that he found several tags in the theme editor that are not present in the "Syntax Completion" dialogue box, but needs to re-investigate what those tags were exactly. |
| 19:09:54 | pixelma | a simple "%s%?iG<%iG|no grouping>" doesn't hang the player but always shows the false branch even with files that do have the grouping tag |
| 19:11:18 | pixelma | I'm not sure if the metadata also gets parsed differently on hwcodec? |
| 19:11:31 | S_a_i_n_t | I don't _think_ so. |
| 19:11:48 | S_a_i_n_t | I'm not certain, however. |
| 19:11:55 | pixelma | not that if something missing there should freeze the player though if a WPS uses it |
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| 19:12:55 | S_a_i_n_t | Although there is not a "this *definitely* breaks that if X == Y" case yet, I am glad we've found the right area to look in. |
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| 19:15:44 | S_a_i_n_t | It may well hang the player of the true/false evaluation is busted and it finds itself stuck in a loop trying to figure out what it should do next. |
| 19:15:58 | S_a_i_n_t | s/of/if/ |
| 19:16:42 | pixelma | I'm still not convinced that it is the grouping tag itself... putting the complete line back makes it break again though. I already tried some other components of that line alone (%d and %iC). Maybe there is some problem with nesting so many conditionals? |
| 19:17:30 | S_a_i_n_t | pixelma: If there was, I'd be seeing this problem too...I have some *very* long conditional statements. |
| 19:17:42 | S_a_i_n_t | At least as long, if not longer than line 46 |
| 19:18:01 | pixelma | but not on my player |
| 19:18:25 | S_a_i_n_t | Ah, good point. |
| 19:19:12 | S_a_i_n_t | I would expect that there would be a "total tag limit" rather than a "tag/condition limit per line/condition" though. |
| 19:19:41 | bertrik | Can any language expert help me? |
| 19:19:55 | S_a_i_n_t | bertrik: Depends on the language ;) |
| 19:20:22 | bertrik | The russian.lang update I just did contains stuff like ' mrobe500: ""' in the <dest> part of a phrase |
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| 19:20:34 | wodz | S_a_i_n_t: 'any' :-) the question was precise |
| 19:21:03 | bertrik | I don't know the proper translation. Can I just remove this line (and make the phrase untranslated presumably)? |
| 19:21:24 | S_a_i_n_t | Ah ".lang file" not "language in general" ...gotcha |
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| 19:24:15 | pixelma | bertrik: if you don't remove an added "mrobe500" in the <source> part as well, it won't show as untranslated or different to the original - so I *think* you would have to remove those too |
| 19:24:48 | pixelma | in genlang, maybe it would show on rasher's site as "problem", not sure |
| 19:25:44 | pixelma | there are some other empty translations similar to this |
| 19:26:47 | bertrik | just removing the empty string in <dest> at least fixes the warning, not sure if this is completely right |
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| 19:28:27 | pixelma | if there really is a difference in english.lang between the targets, I'd really remove the affected ones in the source part as well so that the translator notices |
| 19:29:10 | bertrik | ok, thanks |
| 19:33:49 | Devil_Weapon | Sorry to bother but do any of you know where I can find a copy of a Fuze V1 Nand ? |
| 19:34:11 | S_a_i_n_t | a copy of the NAND? |
| 19:36:09 | Devil_Weapon | Yeah, my Fuze is *a little* bricked, trying the recovery thingy from the wiki |
| 19:36:41 | S_a_i_n_t | Are you sure you have the correct word? |
| 19:37:50 | S_a_i_n_t | "a copy of the nand" makes little to no sense. |
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| 19:41:27 | Devil_Weapon | I realised that while I was typing :D |
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| 19:42:57 | funman | Devil_Weapon: the more important question IMO is: how did you brick it? |
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| 19:45:47 | CIA-81 | New commit by bertrik (r27885): Remove translations with empty <dest> in russian.lang from my previous commit (aka fix yellow) |
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| 19:47:28 | CIA-81 | r27885 build result: All green |
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| 20:14:17 | Devil_Weapon | Where was I before being disconnected ? |
| 20:17:10 | AlexP | Being asked how you bricked it |
| 20:18:16 | Devil_Weapon | Well I received it last week and it had the white screen of death thing but I was still able to mount the FS so I tried updating it. And then boom, gone. Now, on a Windows machine it tells me to format "F" and with my Debian I got nothing |
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| 20:22:19 | funman | so it's not bricked |
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| 20:23:03 | funman | sudo dmesg -c; plug the fuze, look at dmesg again |
| 20:24:24 | Lear | Strange... test_scanrate.rock doesn't link for me now; plugin_start isn't found. This after a make clean. Anyone else seen that? |
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| 20:26:55 | funman | Lear: probably after kugel's commist |
| 20:27:00 | Devil_Weapon | Okay weird, now dmesg give me something |
| 20:27:47 | Lear | funman: Yes, I figured that much... :) |
| 20:28:41 | Lear | It's like the .o file is empty (and there's no .elf at all). |
| 20:29:11 | funman | other test plugins work? |
| 20:30:17 | Lear | Seems like it. I've gotten a bunch of .rock files at least. |
| 20:31:46 | pixelma | Lear: there is something similar by pondlife who has a problem in an H300 sim when compiling in cygwin |
| 20:32:34 | pixelma | haven't tried today or so but it still worked during the weekend and I somehow suspect kugel's changes yesterday |
| 20:32:49 | Lear | pixelma: Looks like a different problem there; conflict with a host library. |
| 20:33:28 | pixelma | ok |
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| 20:33:54 | funman | Lear: works fine for clipv1 / r27885 ; did you clean your build folder? |
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| 20:34:24 | Lear | I did make clean, and manually removed test_scanrate.* for good measure. |
| 20:34:48 | funman | which target? |
| 20:35:51 | Lear | FuzeV2. The test_scanrate.o file is empty; that's the first clue I've found. |
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| 20:36:18 | funman | rm the .o; make V=1 |
| 20:36:55 | Devil_Weapon | Okay I was wrong, Dmesg still shows nothing |
| 20:37:34 | Lear | funman: Been there, done that. Doesn't say much though: http://pastie.org/1115800 |
| 20:37:36 | funman | if windows asked to format F: , it was alive at that point |
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| 20:38:00 | funman | ah, cygwin. |
| 20:40:00 | Lear | Wait a minute, test_scanrate looks like it's only for grayscale (or perhaps monochrome) targets, so it shouldn't be built at all. |
| 20:40:09 | Devil_Weapon | Well Windows doesn't even ask anymore |
| 20:40:34 | funman | Lear: good catch, i have the same error on linux |
| 20:41:17 | funman | so before kugel's changes it linked by accident |
| 20:41:49 | Lear | funman: Yes, that could be it. |
| 20:42:44 | funman | Lear: http://pastie.org/1115818 ? |
| 20:43:59 | Lear | funman: Probably better to do it as in the plugin, so the full #if line. |
| 20:44:12 | funman | what's missing, simulator? |
| 20:44:27 | Lear | And LCD_BITMAP: #if defined(HAVE_LCD_BITMAP) && (LCD_DEPTH < 4) && !defined(SIMULATOR) |
| 20:44:37 | funman | LCD_BITMAP isn't missing |
| 20:45:11 | funman | there's a bunch of other plugins which will give an empty .o on some conditions, i'll take a look at all of them |
| 20:45:27 | Lear | Where is that checked then? Any checks earlier for LCD_BITMAP have an endif, as far as I can see. |
| 20:45:39 | funman | 2 lines above |
| 20:46:19 | Lear | No, more like 18 lines above. Missed it at first. |
| 20:46:34 | funman | no, 2 lines above. but i'll move it in the first #if #endif ;) |
| 20:46:51 | funman | err, 2 lines in the diff |
| 20:47:16 | Lear | Ah. :) |
| 20:48:04 | Lear | Missed that you'd moved it too. |
| 20:48:37 | funman | i added a SIMULATOR, but perhaps there are more test plugins which would be useless on the sim |
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| 20:52:21 | pamaury | funman: ping |
| 20:52:27 | funman | pong |
| 20:52:39 | pamaury | why did you summon me in the afternoon ? |
| 20:52:56 | funman | it was about usb-drv-as3525.c , but the change could be useful in as3525v2 too |
| 20:53:21 | pamaury | the physical address thing ? |
| 20:55:38 | funman | yes |
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| 20:56:50 | pamaury | is it necessary on v2 ? I'm currently taking the virtual address, is it a problem ? Can I use the AS3525_PHY* macro ? |
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| 20:57:20 | funman | if the address is given to the hardware it must be the physical address, and yes the macro works too |
| 20:57:39 | pamaury | Doesn't physical=virtual on v2 ? |
| 20:57:45 | pixelma | test_scanrate is for adjusting the greylib I believe |
| 20:58:08 | pamaury | I currently have no time for this, I'm writing my internship report but I hope I'll be able to work on the code soon. |
| 20:58:10 | funman | pamaury: for DRAM yes, and it's the same on v1 (they use the same linker script) |
| 20:58:26 | pixelma | or, hmm... I might have mixed it up |
| 20:59:53 | pamaury | funman: but it's false for iram ? I'm wondering if some data is in iram... I must leave now, I'll add this change tonight then |
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| 21:00:29 | funman | yes it's false, we change iram virtual address so calls between dram & iram can be short calls |
| 21:01:01 | CIA-81 | New commit by funman (r27886): Remove build conditions inside .c plugin files ... |
| 21:02:52 | CIA-81 | r27886 build result: All green |
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| 21:14:05 | CIA-81 | New commit by funman (r27887): Remove a bunch of build conditions inside .c files ... |
| 21:15:49 | CIA-81 | r27887 build result: 16 errors, 0 warnings (funman committed) |
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| 21:18:08 | * | funman should remember to test "fixes" |
| 21:18:56 | fiveofoh | Haha |
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| 21:19:19 | fiveofoh | I like that it gives an extra little blame if there are errors (THIS IS funman's FAULT) |
| 21:20:03 | AlexP | Except it gets "transferred" - if someone else were to commit before funman fixes it, they'd get the blame :) |
| 21:20:04 | funman | next feature is to give harsher comments each time the problem isn't fixed ;) |
| 21:21:51 | fiveofoh | (funman broke it six commits ago and STILL hasn't fixed it) |
| 21:22:17 | funman | (12 commits now, let's go to his place and bit him until he fixes his mess) |
| 21:22:22 | funman | s/bit/beat/ |
| 21:23:06 | fiveofoh | (it's been 27 commits now. Sent in the search teams 10 commits ago. Have given up all hope on funman now) |
| 21:23:26 | funman | ;) |
| 21:23:52 | gevaerts | fiveofoh: seriously though, getting highlighted is really helpful for these things |
| 21:24:09 | fiveofoh | I think instead of spending time actually fixing things, you should add that feature so that it can berate you better about the problems you're not fixing because you're working on the berate feature :P |
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| 21:24:37 | fiveofoh | gevaerts: Oh yes, I can see how it's very useful. I wasn't questioning its value :P |
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| 21:26:00 | CIA-81 | New commit by funman (r27888): Fix pacbox build on coldfire |
| 21:27:12 | * | funman has a doubt all of a sudden |
| 21:27:39 | CIA-81 | r27888 build result: All green |
| 21:27:49 | funman | perhaps the routine is tweaked specifically for h300 *lcd* |
| 21:34:48 | Devil_Weapon | Sooo, when I plug my Fuze in, it shows a white screen and that's all, nothing with my dmesg. The "emergency" mode (Bridge the two pins thing) still works. Just need to find if I can do anything :D |
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| 21:35:29 | MichaelAdams | what did you do that cuased this condition Devil? |
| 21:37:03 | CIA-81 | New commit by funman (r27889): pacbox_cf.S contains a h300-only function, AND a function for all CF |
| 21:37:38 | funman | Devil_Weapon: if you remember which version of the OF you had on it, you just need this OF file. No need for the full image |
| 21:38:39 | CIA-81 | r27889 build result: All green |
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| 21:40:33 | funman | do we want to keep unused files in svn? like libfaad/drm_dec.c |
| 21:41:11 | funman | or hcr.c |
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| 21:43:15 | funman | ic_predict.c , lt_predict.c, output.c .... libmad/decoder.c etc |
| 21:44:29 | Devil_Weapon | MichaelAdams: Tried to update my Fuze with white screen syndrome |
| 21:45:53 | MichaelAdams | Devil_Weapon: I c. Other ppl had also asked so i was just curious |
| 21:46:17 | funman | http://pastie.org/1116015 <- 404kB of unused source code |
| 21:47:05 | funman | err, 388K |
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| 21:48:40 | Devil_Weapon | funman: I had the 01.02.26, tried to update to the last availaible (.31 or something if memory serves). is it on sandisk's ftp server ? |
| 21:49:32 | funman | http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/amsfw.html |
| 21:49:53 | funman | SansaAMS on the wiki has links also |
| 21:50:01 | Devil_Weapon | Didn't see, sorry |
| 21:52:35 | froggyman | Hmm, when trying to install rockbox on my Fuzev2 when I have the utility go to auto detect it stops working. This is on Windows Vista |
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| 21:55:40 | Devil_Weapon | So now I do a simple dd if=blahblah ? |
| 21:56:30 | funman | the wiki should be clear enough, if it isn't please tell us how to improve it |
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| 21:57:04 | Devil_Weapon | Oh it is clear, just afraid to make a mistake :D |
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| 21:57:42 | bertrik | as always, be very careful choosing the of=xxx device, because you might otherwise accidentally destroy data on one of your pc's hard disks |
| 21:58:18 | Devil_Weapon | Done |
| 21:58:47 | Devil_Weapon | Good luck to me, let's see if it worked... |
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| 22:01:47 | Devil_Weapon | Still a white screen :'( |
| 22:02:46 | funman | you checked that the drive size was correct? |
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| 22:03:08 | Devil_Weapon | Yes |
| 22:03:35 | funman | i can give you a full image of my fuzev1 |
| 22:04:30 | Devil_Weapon | That would be great |
| 22:11:40 | funman | http://omploader.org/vNWM4NA/fuzev1-dump.bin.bz2 md5=a8778d8f98e6388888ae8ca0ab6eef0a (don't forget to bunzip) |
| 22:12:00 | funman | there might be a rockbox bootloader in it though, it's an old dump |
| 22:12:23 | Devil_Weapon | Not a problem, thanks a lot |
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| 22:22:45 | Devil_Weapon | I think god doesn't like me |
| 22:23:25 | funman | it's either that, either your fuze is defective |
| 22:24:00 | Devil_Weapon | Condition A can be the cause of B |
| 22:27:50 | froggyman | I installed the bootloader and build onto my Fuze v2 with the Utility, but if I restart the fuze, it still boots into the OF |
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| 22:28:13 | froggyman | any ideas on what I did wrong? |
| 22:28:34 | funman | did you use rbutil? |
| 22:28:53 | froggyman | yes |
| 22:29:05 | funman | try mkamsboot |
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| 22:35:57 | froggyman | awesome, now it worked |
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| 22:51:46 | * | Bagder is doing a talk on rockbox and reverse engineering in Stockholm Sweden on September 18 |
| 22:52:12 | gevaerts | Nice! |
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| 22:52:39 | evilnick | How many is that in total now? :) |
| 22:53:07 | Bagder | how many what? |
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| 23:01:46 | ma0r | My clip+ is acting wierd, bash reports it being a read-only FS, tried to reinstall RB but the RBU 1.2.7 reports that there is a new version out: 1.2. Which one should I use? :s |
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| 23:03:28 | gevaerts | m0ar: there's a known bug in rockbox utility that makes it think there's a newer version, 1.2.7 is the latest. If the FS is read only, the kernel has probably found an inconsistency (check dmesg), and you'll need to use fsck.vfat to fix it |
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| 23:06:46 | m0ar | gevaerts: Could you tell me how to do that? Never even heard of the utility |
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| 23:08:22 | m0ar | Nvm, doesn't look too confusing |
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| 23:09:28 | m0ar | However, I don't have the fsck.vfat. What do I do? Neither the arch repo's have it, nothing in the AUR either |
| 23:10:21 | m0ar | Ah, it's in the dosfstools-package |
| 23:10:31 | Brodel | Hi, I've been having a problem with installing rockbox on my Fuze v1. I can install it using the rockbox utility and it boots okay but the select button does not work. The Rockbox USB mode doesn't work either. When I boot back into the original firmware though the select button does work. I also tried to manually install it which went smoothly and Rockbox USB mode worked however the select |
| 23:10:32 | Brodel | button still didn't work. Does anyone have any advice on what to do? |
| 23:12:01 | AlexP | m0ar: pacman -S dosfstools |
| 23:12:09 | m0ar | gevaerts: Would that be 'sudo fsck.vfat -a /dev/sdcx'? What partition should I run it on, there are several on the player |
| 23:12:17 | m0ar | AlexP: ^ Already found it, cheers anyways |
| 23:12:42 | gevaerts | You have several partitions on a clip? |
| 23:13:06 | gevaerts | Apart from that, yes, that's it |
| 23:13:18 | m0ar | gevaerts: Or well, fdisk -l reports that it doesn't look like a partition table.. I have no idea of where I should run fsck.vfat :c |
| 23:13:28 | m0ar | It lists sdc1-4 tho |
| 23:14:20 | gevaerts | It might be plain /dev/sdc, without any partition at all. However, the best way probably is to just see what exactly gets mounted |
| 23:14:55 | m0ar | gevaerts: How may I do that? |
| 23:15:49 | m0ar | gevaerts: Yeah, sorry for the stupid questions.. /etc/mtab says that whole sdc is monted to /media |
| 23:16:02 | m0ar | gevaerts: Just sudo fsck.vfat -a /dev/sdc then? |
| 23:16:04 | gevaerts | yes |
| 23:16:09 | m0ar | Wonders, I'll try it now |
| 23:16:59 | m0ar | hmph |
| 23:17:26 | m0ar | Tried to wipe my MUSIC dir with a rm -rf, but it reports alot of files to be read-only system files, even after a fsck :C |
| 23:17:30 | m0ar | gevaerts: ^ |
| 23:17:53 | m0ar | Not alot of files, almost all of them.. |
| 23:17:59 | gevaerts | Did you remount it? |
| 23:18:06 | m0ar | gevaerts: Nope |
| 23:18:21 | gevaerts | it's not going to magically reappear then |
| 23:18:24 | AlexP | m0ar: This is more a linux support issue than Rockbox, #rockbox-community might be more suitable |
| 23:18:48 | m0ar | AlexP: Well, I've got no idea. Just the clip that behaves this way |
| 23:19:07 | AlexP | Right, but this is generic linux stuff |
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| 23:19:49 | m0ar | gevaerts: Remounted and shit, still reports it to be read-only system files :/ |
| 23:20:30 | m0ar | AlexP: Anywho, we are the only people talking in here and I think gevaerts knows what he's doing. If I really do annoy somebody I'll take it to community/archlinux/linux |
| 23:20:37 | AlexP | yes please |
| 23:20:47 | m0ar | Sigh.. |
| 23:21:01 | gevaerts | this channel is logged, so people can read up on what they missed. Off-topic stuff is annoying then |
| 23:21:09 | m0ar | true.. |
| 23:21:10 | AlexP | This channel is logged, and devs like to read up but not wade through lots of irrelevancies |
| 23:21:18 | m0ar | Do you accept a pm gevaerts ? |
| 23:21:41 | gevaerts | What's wrong with joining #rockbox-community? |
| 23:21:56 | gevaerts | And no, I don't give support in PMs |
| 23:22:20 | m0ar | Oh well, thanks anyways and sorry for the inconvenience |
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