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#rockbox log for 2010-09-03

00:00:18bertrikwodz, I think I've seen documentation for some synaptics i2c protocol
00:00:52wodzbertrik: me too, but the documentation is hmm, not precise I would say
00:01:58wodzfor example it states CRC is mandatory part of communication packet but do not specify how to calculate checksum
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00:08:25S_a_i_n_tbertrik: Do you plan to commit "FS #11577 - Adjustable inter-ear delay for crossfeed" soon?
00:08:36S_a_i_n_tI have been using it since it was added, and it is fucking great IMO
00:09:11saratogawe're almost out of codecs
00:09:14S_a_i_n_terrrr...I mean, "really good" ;)
00:09:53wodzS_a_i_n_t: may I bug you about charging icons? :-)
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00:10:34wodzsaratoga: what do you mean by "almost out fo codecs"?
00:10:50saratoganot many more left to add
00:10:58S_a_i_n_tOh...shit, I'm sorry wodz...I'd forgotten about that. I shall start working on it again presently.
00:11:49S_a_i_n_tIt is a bit of a learning experience for me...I am not used to working with 4 colour grayscale
00:12:37wodzsaratoga: we may always turn mpegplayer into some descent media player - lots of codecs to port :-_
00:13:03S_a_i_n_twodz: May I ask you to remind me what the dimensions I have to play with are? And, is there a maximum size for the icons that I cannot exceed?
00:14:05saratogayeah theres always more video codecs
00:14:22saratogabut they're less interesting since few targets have enough CPU power to play non-transcoded videos anyway
00:14:53wodzS_a_i_n_t: the screen is 128x128. I would prefer to print battery voltage on the very first line.
00:15:30wodzsaratoga: this is changing - look for Ondas, Rockchips
00:17:10S_a_i_n_twodz: And, what is the font height you intend to use for that?Can I see safe and suggest that 100px high is enough for the animation?
00:17:39wodzfont is 8px I guess
00:18:21S_a_i_n_tOk, well...I'll play it safe and assume you might want to add something more to the USB screen and make the animation 100px high max.
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00:19:58wodzUSB screen? Well I think current usb graphic is fine, battery charging is whats missing it not the USB screen that this animation is intended for?
00:21:47wodzno it is intended to be used in bootloader during charging of the battery
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00:24:21wodzok time to sleep()
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00:36:44samm23I want to get a new mp3 player
00:37:00samm23what is the best to get that I can run Rockbox on?
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00:47:27krazykitsamm23, whichever one fits yours needs and budget. "best" is a relative term. the BuyersGuide wiki page may help
00:48:51S_a_i_n_tsamm23: What is your main requirement(s) in a player?
00:50:00samm23I donno - reliable, I suppose
00:50:32samm23I would like at least 2 gigs, preferably 4, and a screen that I can play rockbox's games on
00:51:11S_a_i_n_tWell, if you want it to be reliable, and rather failsafe, then it sounds like you want a Flash target.
00:51:26S_a_i_n_tiPod Nano 1 or 2G, or a Sansa Fuze
00:52:12soapgevaerts, FWIW after 4 days and ~50 rebufferings I experienced no problems with the memory-detect build.
00:52:49S_a_i_n_tI myself, prefer the iPod Nano(s)...they have a very small form factor, a nice (yet, kinda small) colour screen, 2-4-8GB variations...and, available second hand rather easily.
00:52:52S_a_i_n_tsamm23: ^
00:52:53samm23I had a sansa e200 a few years ago and liked that, until it finally died a few months ago
00:53:38samm23pricepoint is v. important to me
00:53:39S_a_i_n_tsamm23: Is form factor an issue?
00:53:46samm23Starving college student here, etc etc
00:54:20S_a_i_n_tIf price is an issue...then, I would suggest Nano 1st or 2nd Gen, or a Sansa Fuze
00:54:28samm23not really. Huge would be bad, but as long as it has an ok screen it's fine with me
00:54:46S_a_i_n_tthe 2nd Gen Nano has a substantially better CPU, but, is still classed as "Unstable"
00:55:13S_a_i_n_tit is still "stable", but lacks recording, and FM a few other things.
00:55:24S_a_i_n_tthe Nano2G is my primary player, and, I love it.
00:55:51S_a_i_n_tA good ammount of RAM, and, one of the better CPUs of the Rockbox targets is very available
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00:56:37S_a_i_n_tI actually have 6 of them ;)
00:58:27samm23wow that's a lot
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00:58:39S_a_i_n_tThey're a good player :D
00:59:00samm23Cool, well, thanks for the advice :)
00:59:22samm23maybe I will be back in a few weeks to get advice on how to unbrick whatever I end up buying ;)
00:59:26S_a_i_n_tif you want a HDD target, the iPod Video is the way to go in my opinion.
00:59:46S_a_i_n_tthere are surely better HDD targets, but, they are quite hard to get a hold of.
00:59:58S_a_i_n_tthe iPod Video is still quite easy to obtain.
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01:01:43webguest44it worked!!
01:01:48webguest44im the guy who knows nothing about compiling
01:02:03webguest44thanks again
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02:01:06preglowmmm, beer
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02:09:26docgnomemy sansa is here!
02:10:06krabadordocgnome, you lucky.... i'm waiting for a replacements usb cable to continue using my own....
02:10:43krabadorare you using rockbox 3.6?
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02:12:45docgnomei'm about to install rockbox
02:12:51docgnomeso i have no idea heh
02:14:48krabadordocgnome, what sansa you have?
02:15:55docgnomeit keeps complaining about mount point not being writable
02:16:27krabadordocgnome, fuzev1 and v2 have different approach
02:17:15krabadori rockboxed my own fuze v1, i'm waiting the cable to upgrade to 3.6
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02:26:29krabadordevelopers here?
02:27:33S_a_i_n_tkrabador: The channel is logged.
02:27:46S_a_i_n_tJust ask your question or state your statement
02:28:09krabadorpeople, i've a fuze v1 with a rockbox daily build of 2010-03-17, i've sometimes no playback, playing good flac files, no playback, and i must restart
02:28:35docgnomehow do i tell which fuze i have?
02:28:55JdGordon|check the sansa firmware version
02:29:00krabadorall right later restart, you can tell me if this bug are solved?
02:29:01S_a_i_n_tboot the OF, and chech the firmware revision
02:29:10docgnomethere we are v1
02:37:52JdGordon|freddyb: hopefully you read logs, have you seen FS #11576? the skin font size needs to be capped in some sane way :)
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02:41:21S_a_i_n_tJdGordon|: You mentioning made me think of the USB screen...and its hideous use of sysfont.
02:41:39S_a_i_n_tIs whatever caused that still an issue?
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02:42:19JdGordon|well, the usb screen absolutly cant hit the disk if it is being used by mtp/msc
02:42:51S_a_i_n_tCould we use bitmaps instead of sysfont?
02:43:02JdGordon|so we either force sysfont (currently happening), or we cache the entire font into the audio buffer (not being done, just thought of this idea :) )
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02:43:22tmzt_maybe a small xft on newer hardware?
02:43:23JdGordon|we couldnt do that if playback is still running though
02:43:30S_a_i_n_tJdGordon|: Do go on.... ;)
02:44:20S_a_i_n_twell, if the USB screen is up...there won;t be any playback...will there?
02:44:39JdGordon|there can be.. n theory.. i think
02:44:50S_a_i_n_tIIUC, there...*couldn't* be.
02:45:00S_a_i_n_toh, there can be? is a nice idea.
02:45:34JdGordon|actually maybe not. fm playback could cause issues also
02:46:33S_a_i_n_tWell, on the targets I can test on here...if there's a way to start playback once the USB screen is up, I can't figure it out.
02:47:17JdGordon|I was thinking having playback going while in the HID mode, but yeah it might not be currently possible
02:48:18S_a_i_n_tI think you solved (pending implementation) the issue of ugly-ass userfont on the USB screen..... \u/
02:48:31S_a_i_n_teeek! the top of my head fell off!
02:48:33JdGordon|haha.. pending implementation :D
02:48:38S_a_i_n_tmuch better
02:49:35S_a_i_n_tJdGordon|: I take it that means "I'm not bloody doin' it" ;)
02:50:53JdGordon|of course there is a slightly different possibility... we could just figure out all the needed glyphs and load them
02:50:53JdGordon|slightly more dangerous though
02:51:40JdGordon|not any time soon :)
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02:53:39JdGordon|besides, if I were to fiddle with the usb screen it would get it skinned properly also
02:54:51S_a_i_n_tWell, I've no objections there :P
02:54:59JdGordon|not sure if that means just fixing %cs to work with the usb screen, or finish my skin manager and has a usb screen skin
02:55:24krabadorwith my actual rockbox version, the daily of 2010-03-17, playing flac files sometimes, skipping some track, i've no playback, and no more until a restart
02:55:50JdGordon|well update, that is more than a release ago
02:56:12S_a_i_n_tJdGordon|: A seperate USB screen skin would be awesome...but, perhaps a little unnecessary.
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02:56:35S_a_i_n_tjust adding support for %cs would be an improvement
02:58:19krabadorJdGordon|, i'm waiting for a fuze cable, from sandisk, i'm only hoping this one solved for the upgrade
02:58:24JdGordon|well it has the same issue as the list skinning wishlist item thingy.... the usb screen needs to know if it is being drawn as part of the skin or not, and if not the skin needs some way to get some info from it
02:59:00JdGordon|krabador: well use a microsd card... just extract the zip to the card then copy it in rockbox to the internal storage
02:59:19tmzt_I've tried that before, it didn't work
02:59:38krabadorJdGordon|, good idea...
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03:02:34krabadori really never stop to thank you rockbox devs.... my fuze need only 802.11g to be perfect
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03:05:28krabador16gb microSDHC class 6 and class 2, have difference, completely full, at rockbox startup, in sansa fuze?
03:05:57JdGordon|I see a question mark, but no actual question
03:06:26krabadorforgive my english...
03:07:38krabadori want to know, if class6 and class 2 microsdhc cards, are load in different times at rockbox startup, in a sansa fuze
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03:11:09soapI wouldn't expect to see dramatic differences in startup time between a 2MB/s and a 6MB/s card.
03:11:21soapesp considering Rockbox boots off of the internal drive.
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03:17:17tmzt_do the mmc hosts even approach the point that that speed matters?
03:17:34tmzt_that's just voodoo sourced from a misunderstanding about android 'roms', which has persisted
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03:54:13S_a_i_n_tJdGordon|: Thanks for committing that little fix for cabbie for me, I appreciate it.
03:54:32JdGordon|no worries
03:56:13S_a_i_n_tThe code looks *much* nicer now without all the %?C's all over the place.
04:09:20docgnomehrm... anyone know how to sync my podcasts to my fuze in amarok? #amarok is dead
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04:22:34*S_a_i_n_t wonders what "icons..." is supposed to mean.
04:23:01JdGordon|:) another friendly nudge for for the touch pop
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04:58:51funmanFuze+ firmware update released
05:00:07funmanat first sight it doesn't look like the older AMS OF
05:01:09funmanand according to 'strings' it's compressed and/or encrypted
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05:07:38JdGordon|bugger them!
05:07:38JdGordon|hey freddyb
05:08:55freddybJdGordon1: Is capping the font usage at the lesser of 256 Glyphs or the old SKIN_FONT_SIZE ok for the default? What about basing it off of the size of glyph_cache? That could still be big. Anyone have a preference?
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05:10:11funmanentropy is around 6 so it's not fully compressed/encrypted
05:11:35freddybBugger whom?
05:15:35funmani see 'STMP' in the firmware, and mentions ".sb" files. SanDisk went Sigmatel?
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05:16:07JdGordon2freddyb: I think yeah, capping the default to SKIN_FONT_SIZE makes the most sense
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05:32:51freddybThe old behavior would only allocate room for 16 glyphs on a 35px font. That would be unusable on a disk target, wouldn't it? Let me think about it over night and I'll try to do something smart tomorrow.
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05:36:56docgnomehow do i get the album art to show?
05:37:09docgnomeusing the cabbie-enhanced-info theme
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05:38:01docgnomeoh wait, using cabbiev2
05:38:27JdGordon2freddyb: only on the smaller displays no?
05:38:43JdGordon2but this shuold be the default, if the 3rd param is given then use it, no matter how big it is
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05:54:50docgnomewould someone with a fuze tell me how to put the album art on mine?
05:56:03docgnomealso, is it odd that the fuze goes back to the original firmware when i plug it in?
05:56:43JdGordon2have you read the manual for album art?
05:56:45JdGordon2and no
05:57:00freddybI kinda think there should also be a floor on the default that would at least have room for A-Z, a-z, 0-9, space
05:57:49JdGordon2that is rather arbitrary
05:57:55JdGordon2not everyone uses ascii
05:58:30docgnomeJdGordon2: having problems navigating the manual as there is no index and i can't see from the contents where anything about album art would be
06:00:06krazykitthat's surprising, since the contents has "album art" as one of the entries
06:00:25*JdGordon2 must be blind :(
06:00:33kaisceneit was difficult to find:
06:01:25docgnomeplease direct me to the second on album art -_-
06:01:34krazykitclick the link that says "contents"
06:01:44krazykitthen do a text search for "album art"
06:01:46docgnomeoh hell
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06:40:57CIA-81New commit by funman (r27991): USB AMSv2: fix bit position in DCFG register
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06:44:41funmanpamaury: there seems to be 2 versions of the as353x usb controller, the linux driver only supports the "4xx" version but the headers have register descriptions for the 2 different ones
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09:19:25Gatz85hey i was wondering where i could find some more info about the usb part of the code
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09:23:04S_a_i_n_tGatz85: The source, probably ;)
09:23:48S_a_i_n_tthe source code is your best resource if you want to know abotu the code.
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09:26:07Gatz85well spasifcly i have this idea to port the new PS3grove to rockbox
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09:30:09Gatz85So just a quick question so how much contoral so we really have of the usb
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09:56:47gevaertsGatz85: depends on the player
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10:02:52gevaertsGatz85: on some of our supported players, you can basically do anything you like, as long as you only need a standard USB device (i.e. you can make up any device class you like), and as long as you're happy with the number of endpoints they provide
10:04:56gevaertsI can give you more detailed answers if needed, but then I need more detailed questions :)
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12:05:13Fireacehi I just have a quick question
12:05:43FireaceI'm trying to look though the code but all the preprocessing statments are making it hard to find what's specific to my platform
12:06:06Fireaceis there an easy way to genrate the code post-preprocessor?
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12:46:28pamauryFor those interested, I posted my patch to make the simulator emulate the storage layer on FS: FS #11599. For now, something is broken but I don't know where.
12:46:30pamaurygevaerts: ^
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13:15:21pamauryif you find out what is wrong, tell me. With all changes made by kugel, it might be that I forgot to rename a rockbox function and that it calls a OS fs function ^^
13:17:33gevaertsI'll look into it
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14:36:44xnyhpsGatz85: I was looking at doing that as well. So far, I've removed the other drivers and replaced the descriptors with the static descriptors from PSGroove, but connecting it to a computer gives an error while enumerating the hub (I don't think it's sending corrupted data in that part yet). I won't have more time to work at it this weekend, but I can show you the diff if you'd like.
14:37:16Tornexnyhps: we've just been discussing this elsewhere, and it's more difficult than you are implying..
14:37:30xnyhpsWhat's the issue?
14:37:49Torneour usb stack is only designed to be one device
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14:37:56Torneyou'll need to basically throw most of it away..
14:38:11Torneand access the controller fairly directly in order to do the address-swiching and so on
14:38:25Torneit's not just a matterof changing how rockbox identifies itself
14:39:14xnyhpsI see. I was already starting to fear I needed to do more to really act like a hub, as it didn't work.
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15:04:03Tornexnyhps: the rockbox usb stack is a single device, but perhaps with multiple config descriptors and endpoints
15:04:13Tornexnyhps: that's an entirely different kind of thing to actually being multiple devices
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15:16:10xnyhpsHmm, okay. I must admit I know very little about hubs, I only have some theoretical knowledge of USB with a single device, guess I should read up on the spec.
15:18:14Torneemulating a hub with multiple devices behind it is not something that anyone does, generally. you won't find any information about it anywhere really :)
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15:18:43Tornedevices which behave like hubs with multiple devices behind, like the xbox 360 controller, generally *actually are* that: they have seperate silicon for each function
15:19:14pamaurythat's because you can't fully emulate a hub with a "normal" controller
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15:27:04xnyhpsTorne: Just knowing how a normal hub works sounds good enough. :P But I should be going now.
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16:14:03freddybHow do I change something in the wiki? I need to update the font tag in CustomWPS.
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16:30:19pixelma_freddyb: are you registered?
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16:42:45darkhamplease help me, i dowloaded newest rockbox utility
16:42:52darkhami upgraded rockbox
16:43:07darkhamat today's build
16:43:15darkhamit runs 3 times
16:43:22darkhami changed a theme
16:43:34darkhami restart, and now i've error
16:43:37darkhamat startup
16:43:43darkhamit seems a stack
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16:45:39freddybOk, I'm registered on the wiki as FredBauer may I have write permission?
16:46:47darkham"Data abort at 30028F6C FSR 0x8 (domain 0, fault 8) address 0xEA000006 "
16:46:49pixelmafreddyb: I'll do it if someone doesn't beat me to it but I need to restart my browser first
16:47:08pixelmadarkham: what player do you have?
16:47:22darkhampixelma, sansa fuze v1
16:47:27pixelmafreddyb: err... no-one
16:48:56pixelmadarkham: did you try turning it off (I believe you have to hold the power button for quite some time) I don't have a Fuze though
16:49:35darkhampixelma, i'm shutting down and restart the fuze many times
16:49:42darkhamnow i plug it at the pc
16:49:59darkhamand i load correcly the sandisk firmware
16:50:11darkhamand it works
16:53:02pixelmafreddyb: you should be able to edit the wiki now
16:54:31pixelmadarkham: ah, misunderstood your problem then. Is there any difference now if you start Rockbox (after you connected it to the PC) or what happens exactly?
16:55:44darkhamif the fuze are unplugged, i turn on the player, and i've the rockbox splash screen, 2 seconds of my theme, and the error
16:55:52darkhami shut down
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16:56:31darkhamand if i plug the fuze, it runs the original firmware, and i'm "connected"
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16:58:57darkhamnow i'm browsing the internal memory of the fuze, did i replace .rockbox folder?
16:59:24pixelmaso it may have to do with your theme (though it should either work or not and not crash the player)? Are you able to set anything on your Fuze directly or if the crash happens too quickly?
17:00:24darkhamthe readers freeze at the error, and if i push everything it restart, with the same error
17:00:29pixelmaYou could try renaming the "config.cfg" file first to something else if you have the player connected anyway. Then Rockbox will try to start with default settings
17:00:45pixelmait's in the .rockbox folder
17:01:05darkhamand at the startup, rockbox will create a new one?
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17:01:59pixelmait will create a new one if you change settings so they are different from the default
17:02:31darkhamok, i try
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17:04:06darkhamit runs perfectly
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17:04:48darkhamits the case i delete all my themes and i reinstall them
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17:06:21darkhami changed language and theme
17:06:25pixelmaif you kept the old config.cfg you can read it in a text editor and see which theme it was
17:06:29darkhami tried another one
17:06:44darkhami tried to play a flac file
17:06:46pixelmaor possibly another setting
17:06:54darkhamand i've another error
17:07:01darkhamrockbox restarted
17:07:12darkhamand i run it at default
17:07:20darkhamit runs at default
17:07:56darkhamat default, the same song that crashed, now play....
17:08:24darkhamit's the case i try to replace my .rockbox folder?
17:08:31pixelmathen it possibly wasn't able to write the file (Rockbox only saves settings at next "disk" spinup to not waste battery)
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17:09:31darkhami've a bootloader of september 2009
17:09:38darkhamit's the case i upgrade it too?
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17:10:19freddybpixelma: thanks
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17:16:30darkhampixelma, thanx, i had only fear of something of more serious, i had only some theme files, doom and something not important , in my .rockbox folder, i replaced it, and now i'm using the one in today's
17:16:38darkhamthanx for the help
17:16:43darkhamvery friendly
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17:18:19pixelmaso it's working now?
17:18:50darkhampixelma, now for the first time i plug it usb , on rockbox
17:18:58pixelmaand you're welcome - some goes for freddyb :)
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17:19:29darkhami can charge the battery?
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17:20:52pixelmadarkham: maybe it's worth checking the disks for errors, just making sure. I think Rockbox charges from USB on the Fuzev1 but am not a 100% sure (don't have a Fuze)
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17:26:53darkhampixelma, disk checking, i must do with os (ubuntu)?
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17:28:23pixelmayes, you would do that from your PC but I don't know how in ubuntu. Someone else needs to answer that
17:29:11funmanfsck.vfat -wy /dev/xxx
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17:36:44funman < any idea on the weird jump in the green run? somehow battery_bench didn't output anything during 13 hours
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17:43:00darkhamthe problem is that, internal fuze partition isn't look by fdisk, and the external memory yes
17:43:54darkhami look internal partition like /dev/sdb without an sdb1. for external memory i look a /dev/sdc , and /dev/sdc1 on fdisk -l
17:44:12funmanuse /dev/sdb , the fuze has no partition but uses superfloppy instead
17:44:13darkhami try gparted
17:44:35darkhamfunman, how can i check internal memory?
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17:45:21darkhamyes, gparted tell me "unallocated"
17:45:33funman17:29 < funman> fsck.vfat -wy /dev/xxx
17:45:37funman17:44 < funman> use /dev/sdb
17:46:05darkhamfunman, i tried but no momory check begins
17:46:59darkhami've that "dosfsck 3.0.7, 24 Dec 2009, FAT32, LFN
17:47:00darkhamFATs differ but appear to be intact. Using first FAT.
17:47:00darkhamUnable to create unique name"
17:47:23funmanthat means the check completed
17:47:47gevaerts"Unable to create unique name" seems to show a problem though
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17:48:23darkhamgevaerts, it's the case i rebuild the player with original firmware?
17:48:30funmani don't know what it means but i have seen this several times on my players which were working fine
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17:52:01funmangah i f*cked up the patch on FS #11597
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18:10:31darkhamhi people, i formatted my fuze by the origional firmware, and now , fsck.vfat -wy /dev/sdb , give me that
18:10:35darkhamFATs differ but appear to be intact. Using first FAT.
18:10:35darkhamPerforming changes.
18:10:35darkham/dev/sdb: 33 files, 6277/124417 clusters
18:21:52darkhamit don't seems a deep check
18:22:31gevaertsAn empty (or nearly) filesystem is *very* quick to check
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18:40:07darkhamcan the fuze original firmware modded, cause some problem to internal memory?
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19:20:03funmankugel, flyndice: setting MCI_POWERSAVE bit of MCI_CLOCK when sd is disabled (in sd_enable()) only gives a 10 minutes runtime different with my last bench
19:22:27funmansomeone can run a battery_bench with a patch i give you, to help me with my tests? (i only have 2 AMSv1)
19:23:43funman <- set PCLK to 15.5MHz, which is what my patch did although in another way
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19:29:22darkhamhi, this is the testdisk.log for testidisk command i run on my fuze internal memory
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19:30:27darkhamafter the fuze format by internal original firmware command, it seemed no problem with fsck.vfat -wy /dev/sdb command
19:31:03darkhami've done an analysis with testdisk and the log is the results
19:31:14darkhamwhat can you think about?
19:32:16funmandarkham: if you formatted the storage, what's your problem with rockbox now?
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19:33:34darkhami only thing i've done to internal memory, was installing rockbox
19:34:15darkhamwhere it was "unstable" september 2009
19:34:34funmanit doesn't answer my question: "what is your problem?"
19:34:58darkhami only want to know if the sansa modded firmware had corrupted my internal partition
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19:56:11ZagorI got a question about FS #9114 (Pause between tracks) yesterday. wouldn't it be a lot simpler to just add it as a new repeat option?
19:57:24funmanZagor: how would you name it?
19:58:13funmanRepeat = Pause ? sounds weird to me
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20:05:30Zagorwell, we have "Repeat = Shuffle" already. you can read about pause when you look up shuffle in the manual :-)
20:05:52funmanthat's right :)
20:07:10gevaertsBut what if you want shuffle with pause between tracks and looping the entire thing forever?
20:07:17soapbut Shuffle _on_ repeat is a style of repeating
20:07:29gevaertsBetween points A and B of course
20:07:31soapThis pause feature is not a style of repeating.
20:07:53soapIt's pause on track change, not pause on playlist repeat.
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20:07:59Zagorsoap: I know, I just felt it was too small a feature to warrant a separate option
20:08:13soapCan't disagree with that.
20:08:46gevaertsHas anyone proposed to just put a looping silent .mod between your tracks in the playlist?
20:08:58gevaertsInstant "pause" between tracks, no coding required
20:09:00soapand I can't think of any other options which would go into a new category of options "Track change events" or some such.
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20:10:12Zagorgevaerts: manually creating elaborate playlists is not what the average user wants to do
20:11:32soap"Track Change Events" would be a cool option. I just can't think of anything (current or not) other than "Pause, Continue" which would belong there.
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20:12:11gevaertsBacklight on track change?
20:12:26Zagorgevaerts: that's actually before track change
20:12:35Zagoroptionally, at least
20:12:44gevaertsZagor: sure, but the option could fit in there
20:12:46gevaertsOr voicing the track name?
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20:14:51[Saint]"Announce next track" or some such?
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20:22:06pixelmagevaerts: the .mod thing also wouldn't work on hwcodec which the "pause between tracks" did last time I looked at it (a few years ago though)
20:23:00gevaertspixelma: a very long mp3 file would probably work well enough. I agree that a real option is a lot easier though
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20:33:47bertrikfunman, I got 13h30 on my clip v1, an older benchmark gave me about 10h59
20:34:18bertrikso, nice improvement :)
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20:50:36rashergevaerts: I'm thinking maybe you should just do a call for votes?
20:50:48gevaertsYes, probably
20:51:05rasherSeems no one cares greatly
20:51:35rasherYou should probably include the list of committers
20:52:48gevaertsrasher: last year JdGordon just referred to docs/COMMITTERS
20:52:54gevaertsI suspect that that's good enough
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21:38:17bluebroth3rmaybe "Repeat" should become "Playback mode" or something like this?
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21:39:32bluebrotherand FS #9114 could be mode "Pause-and-go" :)
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22:47:55gevaertshm, does actually reach someone?
22:48:23n1ssend a mail to it :)
22:48:36n1si'd guess Llorean if anyone
22:49:11LloreanBagder and I, if I recall.
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22:56:13pamaurydoes someone know why funman changes some bit offset in amsv2 ? These are not compatible with my docs
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22:58:03*pamaury will wait until tomorrow before reverting the change
23:01:20bertrikI think I saw something in the log about two subtly different types of USB controllers which had different register meanings
23:01:59bertriksometime very early in the morning today, looks like funman was doing another all-nighter
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23:02:57bertriktoday at 6:44 (he slapped you at 5:45 this morning :) )
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23:10:33pamauryok, I'll have a look, that seems crazy, shifting exactly two subregister by one bit !
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23:11:41n1smaybe it's one of those lovely first bit / bit 1 things :)
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23:12:34pamaurythat's strange, I don't understand from where he thinks he found this difference
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23:37:36funmanpamaury: ping
23:39:57funmanpamaury: in linux_as353x/drivers/usb/gadget/dwc_otg , the definition of dcfg_data_t is coherent with my change
23:40:51funmanhum .. perhaps not. looks like i mistook the #define ..... 1 for 'unsigned something :1'
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23:41:27pamaurythere are two definitions and both are coherent with my definitions
23:41:40funmanyeah, i just noticed that
23:41:46funmanyou can revert the commit
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23:42:11funmanbertrik: nice that we can save a bit of battery but did you see that PCLK was divided by 4 ?
23:42:19bertrikno, I just did the benchmark
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23:43:15funmanpamaury: did you see also those 2 different controllers ? (CONFIG_4xx)
23:43:31bertrika slow PCLK probably means a very slow display on the fuze
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23:45:38pamauryfunman: yes, but the changes are minimal: big endian vs little endian iirc, and dma handling. I haven't found other major differences but perhaps there is something :) Actually, endianness suggest our controller is no the 4xx one
23:46:10bertrikCan't we just read the exact controller revision from some version register?
23:48:59funmanpamaury: the bit positions of some registers are different
23:50:43pamauryreally ?
23:51:15pamaurybertrik: no, the revision register just says it's a dwc controller, that's all
23:51:25pamauryfunman: are you really sure some registers are different ?
23:52:06funmani'm really sure but i could be wrong
23:55:02funmanhwcfg3_data_t line 2483 of dwc_otg_regs.h : fifo_depth is the 16 lsb, not the 16 msb
23:55:31funmanthe driver claims to only support CONFIG_4xx though
23:57:39pamaurynot sure of what you are talking about, the two definitions of hwcfg3_data are symmetric

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