| 00:12:20 | [Saint] | Hmmmmm, so....As a roundup, what patches do I need to test on my Nano2G? |
| 00:12:33 | [Saint] | gah...funman's left./ |
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| 00:18:54 | gourd_captain | Does anyone know of a way to bypass the "refreshing your media" screen every time you add files to a Sanza Clip+ by the original firmware? |
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| 00:19:25 | [Saint] | gourd_captain: If it could be done, I'm pretty sure it would be in the builds already. |
| 00:19:28 | * | gourd_captain only uses it to load files onto the device, so he doesn't care about playback in it. And it takes. Forever. |
| 00:19:58 | * | gourd_captain is tempted to see what holding the power button during it would do, but it would probably be a terrible idea. |
| 00:20:06 | Torne | there's some fiddly trick iirc |
| 00:20:07 | [Saint] | A few people have tried (rather hard) to do so, but, I'm not sure it can be done. |
| 00:20:16 | [Saint] | Torne: Oh? |
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| 00:20:22 | Torne | i forget the details |
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| 00:20:27 | [Saint] | Ah. |
| 00:20:39 | Torne | but i remember there being some obscure way to reset without that |
| 00:21:12 | [Saint] | Hmmmm...if there is/was a way, I would expect funman to know it. |
| 00:21:20 | [Saint] | Pity he's not here, |
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| 00:24:40 | * | gourd_captain feels about ready to throw the device through a window. |
| 00:24:51 | gourd_captain | It takes twenty freaking minutes to refresh. |
| 00:25:18 | gourd_captain | During which it eats a significant battery percentage. |
| 00:31:07 | pixelma | is this only with files on the player or with a plugged microSD |
| 00:31:10 | pixelma | ? |
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| 00:35:46 | pixelma | gourd_captain: just thought that there would be the possibility to at least save some time if it currently has to scan both in your case by simply unplugging the card for the OF's scam (if it's not then ignore). I'm trying to remember the trick as I believe there was one, something like turning off the player before disconnect if that's possible (note: I do not have a Clip+ and am unsure if I remember correctly) |
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| 00:38:05 | gourd_captain | Is it just me, or was MTC invented to be a pain in the rear? |
| 00:38:41 | * | gourd_captain put a bunch of songs on the device by MTC by accident, and it's taking forever to delete them. |
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| 00:43:38 | bertrik | MTC? |
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| 00:46:38 | dfkt | amiconn - in what way does the patch make a difference? and with what phones? |
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| 01:00:08 | [Saint] | Torne: Can I interest you in trying this theme: http://www.datafilehost.com/download-c13a5297.html and getting back to me on what I need to improve? |
| 01:00:27 | [Saint] | It's my port of "iLike" to the iPod Video |
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| 01:02:50 | [Saint] | Call for testers with an iPod Video!!! |
| 01:03:18 | [Saint] | Could you please try this theme: http://www.datafilehost.com/download-c13a5297.html and PM me your thoughs on how I can improve it? |
| 01:03:33 | [Saint] | Any feedback is welcome...thankyou. |
| 01:09:21 | saratoga | is it possible to compile different parts of the main rockbox binary with eabi and others without it? |
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| 01:11:00 | [Saint] | saratoga: Not that I know of... |
| 01:11:26 | [Saint] | I believe you could mix & match if you were to compile both builds...however. |
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| 01:37:20 | kugel | saratoga: no |
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| 01:37:53 | Orbidia | hi, is this a place to talk about bugs for rockbox? |
| 01:38:32 | kugel | eabi is a new abi, not compatible with the legacy ARM abi |
| 01:39:11 | pixelma | Orbidia: yes |
| 01:41:05 | Orbidia | ok, i was just trying some of the later builds for fuze v1 r27996 r28001 and r28016 and the music playback system seems to be broken... is this already known about or should I report them on flyspray |
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| 01:44:14 | Orbidia | I just submitted task 11608 on flyspray explaining the issues I was having. |
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| 01:50:42 | pixelma | the progressbar not updating is a problem of the themes which need a minor correction due to some changes in the theme engine lately, the problems with playback shouldn't be |
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| 01:58:35 | Orbidia | yeah, the progressbar seems to work for the default cabbie v2 but most other themes it fails. Does this mean most of these themes won't really work until the authors update them all? |
| 01:58:55 | [Saint] | you can fix it yourself |
| 01:59:11 | [Saint] | you just need to place the progressbar in its own viewport. |
| 01:59:15 | [Saint] | that's all. |
| 01:59:54 | [Saint] | Orbidia: What theme is it you're using? |
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| 02:00:20 | Orbidia | I was reading yesterdays archived chat with using a viewport to fix album art. I guess it would be worth learning how to do it. |
| 02:00:32 | Orbidia | Me and my mom use XL Fuze |
| 02:00:36 | [Saint] | if you let me know what theme it is, I could fix it up when I get back from doing my shopping/etc. (I'm leaving in a few short minutes, otherwise I'd do it now) |
| 02:00:47 | [Saint] | Ah, XL Fuzed. |
| 02:00:49 | Orbidia | I forget which my sister uses... let me go ask. |
| 02:00:58 | JdGordon| | bieber: I did a clean and manually removed the skin .o's and .a :( |
| 02:01:06 | [Saint] | Well, I don't want to fix *all* of them ;) |
| 02:01:16 | [Saint] | That's the theme authors responsibility. |
| 02:01:29 | [Saint] | but, I'm happy to fix up one you can use. |
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| 02:02:26 | Orbidia | thanks |
| 02:02:27 | [Saint] | Orbidia: PM me your email address, and a link to the theme(s) you're using...and I will fix it up and send it back to you when I get a chance. |
| 02:02:31 | [Saint] | Sound reasonable? |
| 02:03:08 | [Saint] | (I'll do it when I get back from doing my shopping, a few hours or so.) |
| 02:03:28 | Orbidia | yes,thanks.... hopefully someone can figure out the playback issues though... because with the currents builds, playback itself doesn't seem to work. |
| 02:06:32 | [Saint] | Orbidia: I opened a PM window for you to message me your (and the theme(s) details) if you can see it, reply to me there. |
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| 05:12:10 | wg412 | is there a way to adjust the sensitivity of the wheely thing on my ipod 5.5g, nothing obvious popped out at me in settings or in the manual though I am only up to section 5.10 atm. It's way more touchy under RB than under ipodos |
| 05:12:48 | [Saint] | wg412: Not without compiling your own build after editing the source, no. |
| 05:16:08 | wg412 | heh, like I wld know what to edit and how to edit it [lol]. More likely, I think, I'll just develop a safe crackers delicate touch :) |
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| 05:48:52 | funman | [Saint]: the patch for nano2g is FS #11607 |
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| 06:31:26 | Gatz85 | ok now my computer is acting right |
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| 06:34:10 | Gatz85 | my question was i have a sansaclip running OR rockbox (3.6) i pluged it into my ps3 to transfer music and then my clip gave me *PANIC* set interface and rebooted to OR firm what would cuase this?? |
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| 06:38:59 | saratoga | which clip? |
| 06:40:13 | Gatz85 | this one USBOTG_AS3525 |
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| 06:40:50 | saratoga | i don't have the source code handy, remind me which clip defines that |
| 06:41:01 | saratoga | probably the v1? |
| 06:41:11 | Gatz85 | yeah v1 |
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| 06:41:39 | saratoga | so it won't mount on the PS3 in rockbox, but does in the OF? |
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| 06:42:07 | Gatz85 | on the orgrinal it disconect and reconects over and over |
| 06:42:25 | saratoga | maybe the PS3 doesn't work with the clip? |
| 06:43:20 | Gatz85 | could it be that is not getting set into slave mode and still thinks its a host |
| 06:43:50 | Gatz85 | you know the whole OTG deal |
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| 06:59:26 | funman | Gatz85: nope the clipv1 is used as device |
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| 07:00:20 | funman | the set interface panic doesn't seem to be a bug, just an indication that this interruption never occured in normal conditions so it's not handled |
| 07:03:46 | Gatz85 | so your saying the ps3 didn't responed to the clip like it should have |
| 07:04:05 | funman | where did i say that? |
| 07:04:25 | saratoga | FS #11609 - Computer won't boot with Rockbox plugged in |
| 07:04:38 | saratoga | anyone mind if I close this? sounds like his computer is looking for a USB disk or something |
| 07:05:54 | funman | saratoga: makes sense, my computer does the same |
| 07:06:03 | mulenmar | Well the person says it ONLY started happening after upgrading. |
| 07:06:17 | saratoga | he probably updated from a build with no USB support |
| 07:06:24 | saratoga | so plugging it in before wouldn't have done anything |
| 07:07:25 | saratoga | funman: you computer hangs if you reboot with a device in? |
| 07:09:36 | funman | yes, i guess it tries to boot on the mass storage device but fails for some reaso |
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| 07:47:20 | [Saint] | funman: Anything I should/shouldn't see with the USB patch? I'll apply it tonight, and give it a day or so to test it thouroughly. |
| 07:48:35 | funman | [Saint]: just see if USB still works (read / write a couple of files should be enough) |
| 07:48:55 | funman | if i did something bad it should just fail massively |
| 07:49:50 | funman | mostly i changed how the data cache is kept coherent with memory when using DMA, it's different on nano2g and sansas because the sansas have an MMU |
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| 07:53:49 | [Saint] | funman: Sweet, well...I'll either get hold of you immediately (probably via the logs) with a fail report, or sometime tomorrow, with a success report. |
| 07:54:10 | [Saint] | I take it there's no real likelyhood it'll speed anything up re: USB transfer? |
| 07:54:37 | [Saint] | the Nano2G is a little slower transfer-wise when compared to the OF. |
| 07:54:40 | funman | [Saint]: no |
| 07:54:46 | funman | well hm it could |
| 07:54:57 | [Saint] | (on Windows anyway...can't speak for *nix) |
| 07:55:09 | funman | i removed some calls to cache-dumping which made no sense to me |
| 07:55:18 | [Saint] | well, I'll cross my fingers then ;) |
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| 08:02:58 | funman | turning CGU_USB clock off/on in usb resets help |
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| 08:07:39 | funman | read: 4.8MBps |
| 08:12:15 | funman | hm the change breaks clipv2 o: |
| 08:12:41 | JdGordon| | woo :) |
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| 08:14:25 | Buschel | hmm, my PCSim (built under cygwin) does not show any subfolders in the simdisk folder. I can only select files in the simdisk path... Is this known? |
| 08:14:43 | Buschel | r28016 |
| 08:16:19 | JdGordon| | have you got it set to show all files? :) |
| 08:19:39 | Buschel | JdGordon|: that works ;o) |
| 08:19:45 | Buschel | silly me |
| 08:20:00 | JdGordon| | hehe |
| 08:20:48 | [Saint] | hehehe... |
| 08:20:55 | Buschel | hmm, but I still cannot enter the subpaths |
| 08:21:11 | [Saint] | I've done that as well...took me an AGE to figure what was going on. |
| 08:21:30 | [Saint] | but, I *could* enter subpaths. |
| 08:21:36 | [Saint] | Hmmmm... :/ |
| 08:22:26 | Buschel | also: with former builds I am somehow sure did not activate "show all". and now it also shows ".rockbox" −− it did not do this before... |
| 08:24:45 | Buschel | just checked with an old build (r25259) -> Show files = Supppoted. When entering the filetree it shows all subpaths (except .rockbox) and I can enter them. |
| 08:25:05 | Buschel | so, definately a problem of the current pcsim (under cygwin?) |
| 08:25:36 | Buschel | I will write a bug report |
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| 08:26:43 | mulenmar | [Saint] Were you talking about FS #11607 when you said "USB patch"? I was about to test that with Ubuntu. |
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| 08:33:48 | Buschel | FS #11610 -> File browsing broken in PCSim (cygwin) |
| 08:34:05 | Buschel | gotta go to work now, see you |
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| 10:05:57 | * | funman proposes using gcc -std=c99 to allow for(int i=0; i<n; i++) constructs |
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| 10:08:13 | * | pamaury proposes to use C99 because there is no reason to stick with the older C89 one |
| 10:08:45 | funman | we use it already, it's not just explicit |
| 10:10:14 | pamaury | explicitely I mean, compile with -std=c99 and allow every C99 constructs. The for(int ...) construct being the most useful |
| 10:11:26 | pamaury | Anyway, we already use vararg macros, single line comments, mix declaration and definition, struct init, so yes we already use quite much of C99 |
| 10:11:26 | pamaury | :) |
| 10:12:06 | gevaerts | I'm not entirely sure how safe C99 is for people who want to work on RaaA on exotic platforms, but yes, we do use large parts already, so I'm also not sure how important that argument is |
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| 10:13:00 | pamaury | are there still compilers not supporting C99 ? (at least the basic thing) |
| 10:14:24 | gevaerts | Strictly speaking, yes. We compile sims with mingw which uses microsoft stdio which (unless it's fixed in the *very* latest version) doesn't support all C99-specified format modifiers |
| 10:15:00 | funman | we can tweak if necessary |
| 10:15:17 | funman | gcc 3.4.6 (for m68k) accepts -std=c99 |
| 10:15:19 | pamaury | microsoft, as always... |
| 10:15:20 | gevaerts | That format thing isn't an argument against for loop syntax of course |
| 10:15:49 | funman | i think the only problem is %zu on mingw? |
| 10:15:49 | pamaury | can mingw use another stdio than ms's ? |
| 10:15:54 | funman | yes |
| 10:16:06 | pamaury | is it tricky ? |
| 10:16:16 | gevaerts | yes, but it's a bit of a hassle. Anyway, that's irrelevant for -std=c99 really |
| 10:16:19 | funman | probably |
| 10:17:13 | gevaerts | Since the for(int...) thing comes from C++ (or am I wrong there?), I suspect we won't have many issues with compiler support for it |
| 10:17:55 | funman | http://pastie.org/1143215 |
| 10:18:16 | funman | woah, it breaks severely |
| 10:18:27 | pamaury | compile errors ? |
| 10:18:37 | funman | /media/bordel/rockbox/firmware/target/arm/system-arm.h:72: error: ‘asm’ undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 10:18:44 | pamaury | lol |
| 10:18:48 | pamaury | try __asm__ |
| 10:18:52 | pamaury | or __asm |
| 10:19:01 | funman | __asm__ indeed works |
| 10:19:24 | gevaerts | Isn't there a way to get the extensions without the restrictions? |
| 10:19:30 | funman | we should use gnu99 |
| 10:19:44 | funman | default is gnu89 |
| 10:19:53 | gevaerts | Yes, that seems saner |
| 10:19:56 | pamaury | __asm__ is standard no ? It's an alternate naming of asm |
| 10:20:09 | funman | asm or __asm__ are extensions |
| 10:20:48 | gevaerts | Well, fixing things to go to C99 might be a good idea, but on the other hand asm looks nicer than __asm, and if it's used a lot... |
| 10:21:05 | pamaury | #define __asm__ asm |
| 10:21:20 | pamaury | huh, wrong way |
| 10:21:27 | pamaury | #define asm __asm__ |
| 10:21:35 | funman | anyway, "asm" works with gnu99 |
| 10:22:10 | gevaerts | I'd say that if we switch, we go to gnu99 first and then start thinking about c99 |
| 10:22:35 | pamaury | the ultimate check is to compile with clang :) |
| 10:22:57 | funman | clang can build rockbox already |
| 10:23:05 | funman | with minor (if any) modifications |
| 10:23:19 | pamaury | without extension switch ? |
| 10:23:25 | pamaury | *es |
| 10:23:27 | funman | dont' remember |
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| 10:24:12 | pamaury | My point is not about clang being *able* to build rockbox, it's about clang being stricter than gcc by default. It's strict C99 by default |
| 10:24:43 | funman | http://pastie.org/1143223 |
| 10:25:20 | pamaury | with gnu99 ? |
| 10:25:26 | funman | GNU conformance is ok for me, i see no point in being strict as possible |
| 10:25:27 | funman | yes |
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| 10:25:58 | pamaury | but gnu89 accepts it ? |
| 10:26:08 | funman | typedef int32_t fixed_data; struct _fixed { fixed_data a; }; typedef struct _fixed fixed; |
| 10:26:17 | funman | pamaury: if the build table is green it does |
| 10:27:17 | * | gevaerts admits that he somewhat likes that variable-declaration-in-loop-statement thing |
| 10:27:36 | funman | i'm not sure why pitch detector needs a struct with only one member |
| 10:28:25 | pamaury | you can try to replace (fixed)<bla> by {<bla>}, using the C99 struct init syntax |
| 10:28:49 | pamaury | hum, my mistake, it's already the case |
| 10:29:30 | pamaury | ask the author of the plugin |
| 10:29:42 | funman | removing the struct works |
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| 10:34:11 | funman | /media/bordel/rockbox/apps/plugins/midi/sequencer.c:240: warning: ‘setVolScale’ is static but used in inline function ‘pressNote’ which is not static |
| 10:34:32 | funman | i removed some inline or added static to functions (i don't know how inline non static functions work) |
| 10:39:35 | funman | FS #11611 - Build with -std=gnu99 |
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| 10:40:11 | CIA-81 | New commit by funman (r28017): AMS: make dma_disable_channel() not inline |
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| 10:41:19 | funman | pamaury: btw now usb seems to work quite fine on clip+ |
| 10:41:36 | funman | it's not perfect but i think the problem is in usb_phy_reset() |
| 10:42:00 | funman | i added a peripheral reset with CCU_SRC and it seems to make things better |
| 10:42:00 | CIA-81 | r28017 build result: All green |
| 10:45:03 | gevaerts | No delta, so there most likely isn't any change at all in how things are compiled. Good |
| 10:45:12 | pamaury | hum, nano2G does a hard reset on usb reset |
| 10:45:19 | gevaerts | oh, wait |
| 10:45:28 | * | gevaerts alwways gets confused |
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| 11:21:04 | kugel | funman, gevaerts: the android port actually uses -std=gnu99 already |
| 11:21:05 | Zagor | amiconn: it's useful since it limits the scope of the loop variable |
| 11:21:54 | pixelma | funman: did you see the bug report about playback on Fuzev1 broken somewhere after 27996? |
| 11:22:08 | funman | pixelma: i think i commented on it (works for me) |
| 11:23:38 | kugel | because the headers shipped in the ndk complain about __STDC__ not defined |
| 11:23:52 | pixelma | funman: ah, ok. I don't have a Fuze so I can't test - just thought it would be important enough to investigate |
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| 11:56:32 | darkham | hi people, i've fuzev1 with rockbox 20018, i've errors when i try to play dooms, i run the game, and at the menu, later i choose game level |
| 11:56:41 | darkham | i've white screen error |
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| 13:01:14 | soap | darkham, do you get said errors with level 1 of the free wad linked from the wiki page on Doom? |
| 13:01:48 | darkham | soap, yes, but i downloaded other wads |
| 13:01:55 | darkham | and i have errors too |
| 13:02:05 | darkham | now i run , and i post them |
| 13:03:16 | soap | for there were lack-of-memory-related errors discussed the other day in here, but I was under the impression the "stock" wad's level 1 didn't consume enough memory to hit these errors. |
| 13:04:33 | darkham | Data abort at 307A7078 FSR 0x8 (domain 0, fault 8) address 0xb89C753B |
| 13:04:59 | darkham | and my rockbox shutdown |
| 13:06:03 | darkham | soap, i'm surprise, because i had doom.wad in many of oldest daily rockbox versions, and i never had any kind of problems.... |
| 13:07:15 | darkham | oh, now i've , for the first time, rockbox no more running... |
| 13:08:02 | darkham | i must to run OF , and now i can run rockbox..... |
| 13:11:14 | darkham | later the error, i can't run rockbox no more.... |
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| 13:18:55 | pixelma | what's the problem? Does Rockbox at least start? And is this really with revision "20018", that would be quite an old version |
| 13:21:14 | darkham | pixelma, later the white screen error posted before, i've black screen, and nothing happens if i try to turn on the player |
| 13:21:34 | darkham | if i press left and i turn on i can run the OF |
| 13:21:42 | darkham | but i can't run rockbox |
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| 14:25:41 | EdgeHM | Quick question, will I be able to run Chex Quest with the Rockbox Doom engine? |
| 14:26:53 | JdGordon | TIAS |
| 14:27:12 | EdgeHM | ...What? |
| 14:27:25 | Torne | anything that works on prboom should work |
| 14:28:09 | gevaerts | Assuming your player has enough RAM |
| 14:28:52 | EdgeHM | It's a 5G iPod. |
| 14:29:32 | JdGordon | try it and see |
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| 14:35:42 | kart0ffelsack | hi, i'm trying to install rockbox on my sansa fuzev2 but the points "complete install" and "minimal install" are greyed out... is there a deeper meaning to this or can i just use the points "install bootloader" and "install rockbox" in the next tab? |
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| 14:47:09 | darkham | what do you think about "Data abort at 307A7078 FSR 0x8 (domain 0, fault 8) address 0xb89C753B" triyng to run doom wads |
| 14:49:10 | Llorean | darkham: Did you ever answer the question about whether the revision number you gave was accurate? |
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| 14:56:27 | funman | kart0ffelsack: use the manual install |
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| 15:15:37 | kart0ffelsack | funman: i just did works like a charm |
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| 15:20:57 | darkham | Llorean, yes, excuse me. 20018 |
| 15:21:49 | gevaerts | darkham: that's 7999 revisions old... |
| 15:22:05 | darkham | r28016-100906 |
| 15:22:29 | gevaerts | So not 20018 at all? |
| 15:24:06 | darkham | gevaerts, not, i've typed bad with an hand at the phone, and an hand at the keyboard |
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| 15:49:30 | funman | my change to pitch_detector.c gives a div by 0 (can't see where in the .c, it's in inlined libgcc.a) |
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| 16:00:45 | funman | looks like what makes gcc think the initializer is not constant is the (fixed) cast |
| 16:05:09 | pixelma | darkham: if you have a Fuzev1 as I seem to remember - could you try the daily build of the 5th of September? |
| 16:05:34 | darkham | pixelma, yes, but i dont' run doom wads |
| 16:06:03 | darkham | pixelma, ok, now i try |
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| 16:09:08 | CIA-81 | New commit by funman (r28018): buflib_get_data(): static inline ensures it will be inlined |
| 16:09:13 | CIA-81 | New commit by funman (r28019): plugins (doom, midi, rockboy): don't use non-static inline ... |
| 16:09:21 | CIA-81 | New commit by funman (r28020): pitch_detector: build with -std=gnu99 ... |
| 16:10:50 | funman | idea: buildsystem could wait 10 seconds after the last commit before pinging the clients |
| 16:10:55 | CIA-81 | r28018 build result: All green |
| 16:12:17 | funman | gevaerts: you said there was no delta with or without -std=gnu99 ? |
| 16:12:29 | gevaerts | funman: no, I was confused |
| 16:12:29 | CIA-81 | r28020 build result: All green |
| 16:13:00 | funman | now i am confused too, was there a delta or should I test it myself? |
| 16:13:12 | gevaerts | I don't know |
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| 16:18:15 | funman | md5sum matches, i'll commit |
| 16:18:17 | darkham | pixelma, it works perfectly |
| 16:19:06 | darkham | with r27996-100904 it works perfectly |
| 16:20:26 | darkham | i tried doom shareware, and doom2, and i can run them perfectly |
| 16:21:18 | CIA-81 | New commit by funman (r28021): FS #11611: Use -std=gnu99 to allow additional C99 features ... |
| 16:22:55 | pixelma | darkham: you only talked about doom, were there other things not working correctly in the newer builds (playback etc.)? |
| 16:23:14 | CIA-81 | r28021 build result: 12973 errors, 1586 warnings (funman committed) |
| 16:23:54 | darkham | pixelma, i almost use flac files exclusively, and i haven't find problems, in the 280018, i tried bubbles and no problems |
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| 16:25:42 | [Saint] | woooo! errors FTW! |
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| 16:26:38 | funman | not sure what to do for the m68k setjmp |
| 16:27:17 | funman | hmm .. reading the other m68k errors i think i know what to do .. revert at least for m68k until gcc is updated |
| 16:27:36 | darkham | pixelma, now i'm trying the r28001-100905 and i had the same issues with doom |
| 16:28:05 | gevaerts | In that case I'd revert everything. Having different C dialects for different parts of the code doesn't seem like a very good idea to me |
| 16:28:14 | darkham | pixelma, but rockbox don't shutdown locking it, it now restart |
| 16:30:17 | darkham | pixelma, with r28016-100906, i got the error, rockbox shutdown and i can'r turn on the fuze in any way, i can only run the OF. |
| 16:30:32 | CIA-81 | New commit by funman (r28022): gigabeats: remove inline from extern functions |
| 16:30:38 | CIA-81 | New commit by funman (r28023): invadrox: make inline function static inline |
| 16:32:22 | CIA-81 | r28022 build result: 12973 errors, 26 warnings (funman committed) |
| 16:33:31 | kugel | error in a file shipped by gcc :/ |
| 16:33:59 | funman | might be possible to workaround |
| 16:34:00 | CIA-81 | r28023 build result: 12973 errors, 4 warnings (funman committed) |
| 16:34:13 | funman | not sure about the cpp warning |
| 16:34:22 | kugel | just fking update that stone age gcc for cf :) |
| 16:36:16 | funman | funny enough, x5 builds just fine here |
| 16:36:51 | funman | oh oops that's with make bin |
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| 16:41:26 | CIA-81 | New commit by funman (r28024): invadrox: make all inline functions static inline |
| 16:41:31 | pixelma | darkham: that's the second report of something broken around revision 28000 for a Fuzev1 I saw. That's all I can say though |
| 16:43:34 | CIA-81 | r28024 build result: 12973 errors, 0 warnings (funman committed) |
| 16:44:06 | darkham | pixelma, i can refresh it for the r28023-100907, i had the same,i know that nothing changed about that from 28016, but i wanted try the same |
| 16:44:53 | darkham | i confirm no problem for r27996-100904 |
| 16:45:28 | darkham | but later this version, i ever have the issue. |
| 16:47:52 | funman | ah the problem is assembler including C |
| 16:47:58 | funman | headers* |
| 16:48:03 | gevaerts | funman: there are only two failing files actually |
| 16:48:14 | funman | i've fixed the setjmp one |
| 16:50:33 | CIA-81 | New commit by funman (r28025): m68k/setjmp.S: fix build with gcc 3.4.6 -std=gnu99 ... |
| 16:52:26 | CIA-81 | r28025 build result: 12420 errors, 0 warnings (funman committed) |
| 16:56:00 | funman | somewhy __ASSEMBLER__ isn't defined |
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| 17:00:06 | funman | \o/ |
| 17:00:27 | S_a_i_n_t | woo, a decent GCC battle can be amusing ;) |
| 17:00:31 | S_a_i_n_t | Good job sir. |
| 17:00:31 | funman | now someone please write such a for loop because so this work can be worth it! |
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| 17:06:51 | funman | pixelma: just tried the last fuzev1 current build downloaded from rb.org, plays fine so i think we've just seen 2 occurences of this pebkac bug |
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| 17:07:10 | pixelma | which pebkac? |
| 17:07:33 | funman | user stupidity |
| 17:07:48 | pixelma | yes, but what exactly did they wrong? |
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| 17:08:07 | funman | no idea |
| 17:08:10 | pixelma | both manage to get a working build with r27996 |
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| 17:09:14 | pixelma | there were other changes before that only caused trouble on some units |
| 17:11:39 | funman | you think it could be r28000 ? |
| 17:12:42 | funman | i realize i made an unwanted change to AMSv2 in this commit but it seems to be fine |
| 17:13:40 | funman | let's wait and see if we see more reports |
| 17:14:07 | pixelma | well, the reported "works " and "doesn't work" revisions are pointing towards that and it seems like it's an important change |
| 17:14:14 | darkham | funman, i wanted try doom at the r28016 and i had the problem i post befeore, i used the r27996 and no problems, i restall the r28016 and i had the problem, i used r28022/24/25 i had the problem, do you want a movie? |
| 17:15:43 | funman | darkham: doom is not important for me. |
| 17:15:48 | funman | darkham: what is important is playback. |
| 17:16:04 | funman | playback works with r28016/22/24/25 ? |
| 17:17:33 | kugel | we should disable doom anyway |
| 17:17:51 | * | S_a_i_n_t slaps kugel |
| 17:17:55 | funman | yes |
| 17:18:02 | S_a_i_n_t | No!...bad kugel, BAD! |
| 17:18:05 | funman | and rename it to 'Doom Forever' while we're working on it |
| 17:18:14 | S_a_i_n_t | (hits with rolled up newspaper) |
| 17:18:16 | darkham | playback works, i'm okay that doom isn't vital, but i wanted tells you, exactly because (for me) it worlked some verison before |
| 17:18:36 | kugel | S_a_i_n_t: why? in the default you can only play 1 level, after that it just data aborts (I'm talking about fuze only here) |
| 17:18:43 | funman | darkham: sorry, doom is buggy. |
| 17:19:01 | S_a_i_n_t | kugel: oh, are you only talking about the fuze? |
| 17:19:23 | S_a_i_n_t | it should only be the v2 that has the problem with it. |
| 17:19:33 | S_a_i_n_t | (fuck all RAM) |
| 17:20:17 | funman | S_a_i_n_t: v1 & v2 have same amount of ram |
| 17:20:34 | kugel | btw, your assumption about ram sizes was wrong, the fuzev1 doesn't have more ram than fuzev2, you probably confuse it with e200v1 and e200v2 |
| 17:20:39 | S_a_i_n_t | Oh...hmmmm, what am I thinking about then? |
| 17:20:53 | S_a_i_n_t | Ah, right...e200, correct. |
| 17:21:16 | S_a_i_n_t | that's the one with the huge difference between vi and v2, yeah...sorry. |
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| 17:24:08 | Drise | Hey, would anyone be able to give me a quick run down of how to compile the Fuze V2 firmware with the usb patch? Or could someone compile it for me and link me to it? |
| 17:24:30 | Vandurol | Drise, your kinda sexy. |
| 17:24:47 | Vandurol | ^.~ |
| 17:24:48 | S_a_i_n_t | Vandurol: Not in here... :/ |
| 17:24:57 | Vandurol | i love u too |
| 17:25:00 | Drise | What? |
| 17:25:02 | S_a_i_n_t | *NOT* a social channel |
| 17:25:03 | Drise | Spammer? |
| 17:25:06 | gevaerts | Vandurol: this isn't a social channel. Stop it |
| 17:25:09 | Vandurol | wait what? |
| 17:25:11 | Vandurol | mmkay |
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| 17:25:48 | Drise | Vandurol: Try #rockbox-community |
| 17:25:49 | Vandurol | so its a history channel right? In 1945 the soviet union defeated the nazi invaders! |
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| 17:26:02 | S_a_i_n_t | Drise: Check the wiki for "simpleguidetocompiling" |
| 17:26:31 | Drise | ~how long would it take to patch/compile? |
| 17:26:46 | funman | Drise: i'm making a build |
| 17:26:50 | saratoga | 2-3 minuntes on a modern machine |
| 17:26:56 | saratoga | minutes |
| 17:26:59 | S_a_i_n_t | depends how fast you learn ;) |
| 17:27:10 | pixelma | and on the OS |
| 17:27:48 | Drise | I'm fairly knowledgeable with svn/hg, would hg pull work for the svn that is in place? |
| 17:28:01 | Drise | But my spelling sucks, lol. |
| 17:28:15 | funman | Drise: provided you have the proper svn extension for hg it would work |
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| 17:29:09 | funman | version.sh might break though, it only knows svn, git, and bazaar |
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| 17:30:54 | Drise | should I then just install an svn client for Windows? |
| 17:31:19 | funman | Drise: http://omploader.org/vNWd6bQ/rockbox.zip (md5 = f1139004081454536a7d5d89c5c743ab) |
| 17:31:38 | docgnome | how do i access the player controls when i plug it in for charging? |
| 17:31:39 | | Quit Drise (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) |
| 17:31:48 | docgnome | using the current build for the sansa fuze v1 |
| 17:31:50 | funman | Dreamxtreme: also http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/DevelopmentGuide |
| 17:31:57 | n1s | docgnome: check the manual |
| 17:31:57 | S_a_i_n_t | docgnome: check the manual. |
| 17:32:08 | S_a_i_n_t | You need to hold a key while plugging to keep it from mounting |
| 17:32:14 | S_a_i_n_t | so, you can maintain normal use |
| 17:32:15 | saratoga | Drise: the dev tools come with SVN, so you might as well use it |
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| 17:33:36 | Drise | what was that file? |
| 17:33:39 | Torne | Drise: checking out our svn repo with hg will take a very very long time |
| 17:33:51 | Torne | because it will have to mirror the entire history of the repo, converting everything to hg revisions |
| 17:33:57 | Drise | My apologies, I got disconnected somehow. |
| 17:34:04 | Torne | it's much quicker to use svn unless you expect to spend a lot of time poking through history |
| 17:34:24 | Drise | Alright, svn it is then. |
| 17:34:59 | S_a_i_n_t | Git is probably best...but, if you're used to SVN it's a real PITA + a big learning curve |
| 17:35:05 | Drise | Any sort of GUI clients such as tortisehg you would recommend? I've become spoiled with it... |
| 17:35:20 | Torne | all the tortoises are based on tortoisesvn, so yes :) |
| 17:35:41 | S_a_i_n_t | ew...tortoise SVN is, interesting... ;) |
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| 17:35:58 | Torne | S_a_i_n_t: for people who just want to check out and build stuff and maybe make a patch or two, git is far, far more complicated and difficult and slow than svn |
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| 17:36:18 | Torne | there is no advantage at all unless people are actually developing complex stuff over a long time |
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| 17:36:48 | Torne | there's no point in recommending people use it; if they have a use for it they'll know already :) |
| 17:37:23 | Drise | I've used hg for about two years now for my own projects, so svn shouldn't be too difficult, especially becuase I'ved used tortoiseHg for that time. |
| 17:37:44 | Drise | (google code) |
| 17:38:10 | Torne | you will barely notice any difference |
| 17:38:24 | Torne | especially if you use tortoise, all the versions of it look almost identical |
| 17:38:42 | Drise | Excellent, one less thing to learn, although learning something of actual interest is nice for a change. |
| 17:39:10 | Torne | also, you really only need to know how to do three things anyway: check out, update, and create diffs |
| 17:39:18 | Torne | since you don't have commit access |
| 17:39:22 | Torne | nothing else is relevant |
| 17:39:24 | Drise | Done done and done. |
| 17:39:38 | piconano | Excuse me, I'm sorry but what is "hg". (I'm a newbie in these things) |
| 17:39:41 | pixelma | Drise: you're on Windows? |
| 17:39:45 | Drise | Building is the last step tht I have no idea about |
| 17:39:49 | Drise | 7, yes. |
| 17:40:01 | Drise | it is an equivalent to SVN. |
| 17:40:04 | Torne | hg is mercurial, a version control system |
| 17:40:11 | Drise | @piconano |
| 17:40:15 | piconano | Ah, thank you. |
| 17:40:26 | Freddy-PSP | piconano: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercurial |
| 17:42:33 | Drise | is this written in c/c++/c#? |
| 17:42:43 | bzed | python |
| 17:43:04 | n1s | this is drifting Off Topic |
| 17:43:18 | pixelma | Drise: and do you already have a unix-like (I hope that's the correct word for it) build environment set up such as cygwin? Better get a linux VM though as building is a lot quicker |
| 17:43:34 | docgnome | S_a_i_n_t: n1s: there isn't a manual for the current build and the way that work on stable doesn't work. |
| 17:43:53 | pixelma | Drise: Rockbox is written in C and some ASM for speed critical parts |
| 17:44:05 | S_a_i_n_t | docgnome: "that work on stable"? |
| 17:44:10 | Drise | I don't, although I have school computers that run UNIX, of which I'm programming C++ on. |
| 17:44:15 | S_a_i_n_t | docgnome: what is it you're wanting to do? |
| 17:44:27 | n1s | docgnome: the manuals on the site are rebuilt from source every day |
| 17:44:46 | S_a_i_n_t | if it boots the OF when plugged, you're not going to be able to access playback from RB for obvious reasons. |
| 17:45:21 | Drise | how big, in terms of MB is the source? |
| 17:45:38 | S_a_i_n_t | ~300 |
| 17:45:44 | S_a_i_n_t | ~350ish |
| 17:45:48 | S_a_i_n_t | MB |
| 17:46:00 | Torne | 171MB, actually |
| 17:46:11 | n1s | docgnome: so if you are in rockbox, hold down select and connect usb it doesn't just charge? |
| 17:46:30 | Torne | you are probably counting all the .svn directories, S_a_i_n_t, which have duplicate copies of every file ;) |
| 17:46:58 | Drise | Well, then I'l be resuming this at a later time. With that .zip link that was given to me, was that the build with the USB patch? |
| 17:47:03 | S_a_i_n_t | Torne: well, I assume "size on disk once checked out" was the size that mattered in this case. |
| 17:47:32 | Drise | ~ 25 Mb transferred in 6 mins. |
| 17:47:51 | Drise | I'm on the public Wifi and we are horribly throttled. |
| 17:47:52 | Torne | it shouldn' tneed to transfer 171MB to download the source |
| 17:48:06 | Torne | i *think* svn compresses |
| 17:48:19 | Drise | Anyhow, thanks for the help, and I will be in touch later today, I hope. |
| 17:48:21 | docgnome | S_a_i_n_t: n1s: Huh. I held left before. maybe my fat finger was holding select too. Thanks. |
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| 17:48:58 | n1s | docgnome: why did you hold left? the manual says select? |
| 17:49:12 | n1s | s/select?/select/ |
| 17:49:34 | docgnome | n1s: cause i was playing with it before and that worked. *shrug* |
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| 17:58:20 | Freddy-PSP | they all dead |
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| 18:01:12 | Mode | "#rockbox +o TheSeven" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 18:01:44 | alexbobP | fourchan has a point doe |
| 18:02:00 | Freddy-PSP | stupid spammers: S |
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| 18:02:28 | S_a_i_n_t | alexbobP: No, he doesn't. |
| 18:02:30 | m0ar | Is it possible to transfer files to/from a clip+ with rockbox booted nowdays? |
| 18:02:44 | alexbobP | S_a_i_n_t: okay |
| 18:03:02 | S_a_i_n_t | Not in here anyway. |
| 18:03:34 | tinLUA101 | Is there some kind of guide that states what is needed in order to port rockbox? |
| 18:03:45 | tinLUA101 | I'm looking through the manual but I am not finding it. |
| 18:03:45 | funman | m0ar: there's a patch but it's not yet in svn |
| 18:03:57 | TheSeven | tinLUA101: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/NewPort |
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| 18:04:12 | m0ar | funman: Ah, okay |
| 18:05:37 | tinLUA101 | Thank you, TheSeven. |
| 18:05:46 | Drise | Btw, funman, thank you for getting USB on the fuze v2. I've been waiting ages for it. |
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| 18:12:27 | alexbobP | Drise_: wait, usb works on the fuze v2? |
| 18:12:36 | alexbobP | I have to reboot to use usb... |
| 18:13:16 | Drise_ | There is a patch not in SVN that allows for USB |
| 18:13:27 | alexbobP | woot |
| 18:13:30 | alexbobP | I hope it makes it into the build |
| 18:13:33 | Drise_ | See the Sansa AMS page |
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| 18:16:49 | Drise_ | I'm working on compiling a version with the patch, if you are interested, I can host the version until it is in svn |
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| 18:24:40 | Drise | Is the svn server pretty good about bandwidth? |
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| 18:27:43 | [Saint] | bertrik: You gonna commit your inter-ear delay for crossfeed? |
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| 18:28:20 | bertrik | [Saint], the inter-ear delay was always there, the patch just made it configureable |
| 18:28:42 | bertrik | I think it's not ready for commit yet, because I'd also need to update the assembly versions of the crossfeed |
| 18:29:28 | [Saint] | Ah, in truth, I'd never bothered with crossfeed until your patch. |
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| 18:29:40 | [Saint] | I didn't know the delay was there beforehand. :/ |
| 18:31:20 | bertrik | [Saint], what delay value do you like best? (300 is the default) |
| 18:31:43 | [Saint] | I seem to prefer 350 personally...it works best for my nce IEMs |
| 18:31:54 | [Saint] | *nice |
| 18:32:09 | [Saint] | But, for my crappy IEMs, 250 seems a lot nicer |
| 18:36:18 | Drise | Saint, I can't seem to be able to apply the USB patch. |
| 18:36:39 | funman | you're using the correct -p level? |
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| 18:36:49 | [Saint] | what error are you getting, and, how are you doing it? |
| 18:36:53 | Drise | I use the apply patch interface for tortoisesvn. |
| 18:37:02 | Drise | I don't see anything happen |
| 18:37:16 | Drise | what is the command line for it |
| 18:37:17 | [Saint] | apply it using "patch" |
| 18:37:22 | Drise | ? |
| 18:37:28 | Drise | alright |
| 18:37:33 | [Saint] | patch -p0 < patchname.patch |
| 18:37:46 | Luca_S | it's -p1 IIRC |
| 18:37:57 | funman | depends of the patch |
| 18:38:08 | [Saint] | Luca_S: depends if it was created using git or svn |
| 18:38:20 | [Saint] | and, other factors |
| 18:38:21 | funman | if it was produced by svn diff it's usually -p0, by git it's usually -p1, if you want to know read the patch and see for yourself |
| 18:38:30 | [Saint] | *usually* p0 |
| 18:38:44 | [Saint] | (what funman said) |
| 18:38:56 | Drise | ah, its git |
| 18:38:59 | Luca_S | Drise's talking about the USB patch for AMSv2, which IIRC was generated using git and thus requires -p1 |
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| 18:39:29 | Luca_S | (btw, congratulations funman :)) |
| 18:39:51 | funman | you'll say congratulations to pamaury when he makes it work every time! :) |
| 18:39:58 | Drise | Also remember im on a windows 7 machne |
| 18:39:58 | Drise | yes, funman, thank you for usb |
| 18:40:26 | [Saint] | thank him for the patch, not USB ;) |
| 18:40:42 | [Saint] | if he invented USB he'd be a bazilllionaire..and likely not here :P |
| 18:41:14 | Drise | True, for the patch then. |
| 18:42:31 | Drise | I still can't get it to patch, and I'm using Windows 7 and TortoiseSVN |
| 18:43:26 | Drise | And I can't do it through command line either. |
| 18:43:39 | [Saint] | you...*have* a build environment set up? |
| 18:43:41 | [Saint] | no? |
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| 18:44:09 | [Saint] | you should be using the tool "patch" |
| 18:44:10 | pixelma | bertrik, [Saint]: IIRC the delay that works best for someone with crossfeed is dependent in this one's head |
| 18:44:19 | Drise | No build environment, yet. Trying to get one thing done at a time. |
| 18:44:29 | [Saint] | Drise: well, this is the time |
| 18:44:34 | Drise | Alright |
| 18:44:36 | [Saint] | you'll need to set one up. |
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| 18:52:29 | m4gnus | Hello everyone |
| 18:55:16 | m4gnus | Is it typical for the automatic install to stick on the rockdoom.zip download? (iPod 5g) |
| 18:55:19 | [Saint] | m4gnus: If you have a question, best just to ask it. |
| 18:55:39 | [Saint] | m4gnus: Nope. |
| 18:55:54 | m4gnus | OK thank you. |
| 18:55:59 | [Saint] | Best to just try again. |
| 18:56:16 | Drise | saint any recomendations for build environments? |
| 18:56:23 | [Saint] | It is not a particularly large file, so, shouldn't take long at all. |
| 18:56:49 | [Saint] | Drise: I personally, reccommend CygWin, but, others here would yell at me for mentioning it ;) |
| 18:56:56 | [Saint] | there's only a few of us that use it. |
| 18:57:02 | Drise | Any reason? |
| 18:57:06 | gevaerts | Use cygwin if you have lots and lots of time |
| 18:57:08 | Drise | (for yelling) |
| 18:57:24 | Drise | Not particularly no. |
| 18:57:29 | Drise | (time wise) |
| 18:57:32 | [Saint] | Drise: Because they think its crap ;) since they're all *nix junkies :P |
| 18:57:51 | [Saint] | And it doesn't take "lots and lots" of time. |
| 18:58:03 | [Saint] | just, slightly longer than a *nix system |
| 18:58:05 | gevaerts | [Saint]: yes, the fact that it's an order of magnitude slower has *nothing* to do with it |
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| 18:58:32 | [Saint] | gevaerts: hence the thinking its crap. |
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| 19:01:56 | n1s | also it's crap ;) |
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| 19:02:19 | * | [Saint] slaps n1s |
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| 19:07:31 | kugel | the last time I tried it it was pretty crap |
| 19:07:39 | [Saint] | If anyone here has an iPod Photo/Colour, and a decent digital camera...it would really help me out (making/porting a theme) if they could take a good photo of the "Now Playing" screen showing album art, and the "volume changing" view of the volume bar and PM me the images. (preferably the image need be as "square on" to the device as possible) |
| 19:07:56 | kugel | no, pretty wasn't the right word |
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| 19:28:54 | preglow | damn, that newest prebuilt android rockbox works pretty decent on a legend |
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| 19:33:40 | Drise | ok, so now that I am downloading cygwin, what is next to patch using the diff file? |
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| 19:35:29 | [Saint] | waiting for CygWin to finish installing |
| 19:35:43 | [Saint] | Also, don;t both downloading the toolchains from RB |
| 19:35:55 | [Saint] | (when it says "run the installer for a second time) |
| 19:35:58 | [Saint] | they're useless. |
| 19:36:12 | [Saint] | You'll need to build the toolchains yourself |
| 19:36:25 | [Saint] | (which just involves running a script |
| 19:36:28 | [Saint] | +) |
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| 19:36:45 | gevaerts | And waiting a bit |
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| 19:47:30 | Drise | Awesome, I have irc access when I'm not logged into the publicwifi |
| 19:47:38 | Drise | sorry for off topic |
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| 19:53:35 | Drise_ | Hm... can Drise be kicked? I seem t not have properly disconnected. |
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| 19:53:53 | [Saint] | Drise_: It will drop soon. |
| 19:53:57 | gevaerts | no. Well, kicked yes, but that won't help you |
| 19:54:21 | [Saint] | Drise_: eventually, it will fail with a ping timeout |
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| 19:54:29 | [Saint] | there ya go |
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| 19:55:24 | Drise | Thank you saint |
| 19:55:38 | pamaury | funman (for logs): your patch looks strange w.r.t to cache: you replaced a invalidate_dcache() with dump_cache() and a clean_cache() with invalidate_cache() |
| 19:55:42 | [Saint] | No problem, I'll state the obvious anytime! ;D |
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| 19:58:30 | Drise | [Saint]: What is needed with CygWin to be able to compile, in reference to the installer? |
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| 19:58:47 | [Saint] | Drise: check the CygWin wiki |
| 19:58:55 | pamaury | wow, it seems that I finally fixed my usb code |
| 19:59:03 | [Saint] | (RB's CygWin wiki) |
| 19:59:14 | saratoga | what was wrong ? |
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| 20:00:09 | [Saint] | Drise: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CygwinDevelopment |
| 20:00:35 | [Saint] | Drise: ignore step 3 and 4 completely, though. |
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| 20:00:54 | pamaury | apparently, if I remove invalidate_dcache() on setup packet, it makes it work |
| 20:01:14 | pamaury | not sure it's the only change, I changed other minor things with it but that's the main change |
| 20:01:21 | pamaury | I'll commit it in a minute |
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| 20:02:11 | saratoga | doesn't invalidate_dcache do a flush? how could that break anything |
| 20:03:30 | pamaury | that's my question :) |
| 20:03:53 | saratoga | maybe its a timing issue |
| 20:04:44 | pamaury | wait a minute, i'll try with it, just a one line change to be sure |
| 20:05:52 | pamaury | yes |
| 20:05:59 | pamaury | that's....weird |
| 20:06:53 | pamaury | perhaps a timing issue then |
| 20:07:23 | pamaury | but iirc, the timing for setup packet is quite large |
| 20:07:47 | n1s | pamaury: you could try adding a small delay where you used to flush dcache to see if that breaks it too |
| 20:08:04 | n1s | to rule out other weirdness |
| 20:10:34 | Drise | If you don't mind, what is pamaury/what are you working on? |
| 20:10:46 | pamaury | usb for amsv2 |
| 20:11:38 | Drise | Didn't funman do so already, or are you looking for more reliable code? |
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| 20:13:00 | pamaury | funman tried to make the nano2g code, the code in svn is mine |
| 20:13:24 | pamaury | because my code was not working and nobody understood why |
| 20:14:53 | Luca_S | also funman's code still has quirks on some players (uSD sometimes not shown, clip+ does not work...) |
| 20:15:01 | Drise | [Saint] Why isn't the page edited then (steps 3 & 4) Would it be reasonable to edit the page saying those steps are outdated/obsolete? |
| 20:16:14 | Drise | So in fact does the Fuze v2 usb work, as that is what I'm after. Once I get some more education under my belt, I'll be deffinatly looking into helping. |
| 20:16:29 | [Saint] | It hasn't been edited as there are no prebuilt toolchains available...I guess it *could* be edited saying those are obsolete, but, it also needs to include info on or at least pointing to building the toolchains from scratch |
| 20:16:37 | [Saint] | its been on my todo list for a while |
| 20:17:08 | pamaury | my code is still not complete |
| 20:17:20 | n1s | that would be just copying a few lines from the linux guide |
| 20:17:43 | Drise | Does that patch work though, as I have seen some users report? |
| 20:17:55 | [Saint] | n1s: Yes, indeed...I've been meaning to do it for ages, but I don;t get much free time these days. |
| 20:18:26 | [Saint] | the whole "editing your $PATH" thing became irrelevant when the location of the toolchains was changed |
| 20:18:36 | n1s | yep |
| 20:19:12 | [Saint] | that, and with no prebuilt binaries available and having to use rockboxdev.sh, that adds the $PATH info anyway if it needs to. |
| 20:20:07 | kugel | pamaury: what happens where you removed the invalidate_dcache()? |
| 20:21:03 | pamaury | it works |
| 20:21:23 | pamaury | I also need to tweak fifo sizes but with invalidate_dcache() is doesn't work |
| 20:21:31 | kugel | it works with the invalidate_ too now? |
| 20:21:36 | pamaury | no |
| 20:21:51 | kugel | so what happens where you removed the invalidate_dcache()? |
| 20:21:58 | kugel | I mean what does the code around do? |
| 20:23:56 | pamaury | handling setup packet and giving it to usb core |
| 20:24:36 | Drise | Hm... is it just me or am I getting some really bad lag (+30 seconds) |
| 20:25:29 | kugel | handle_ep_int()? |
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| 20:26:30 | [Saint] | bluebroth3r: You're using iLike Nano...correct? |
| 20:26:45 | [Saint] | bluebroth3r: And, is it working as intended for you? |
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| 20:27:01 | [Saint] | ie. "does it look as it does on the themesite" |
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| 20:28:46 | Drise | Apologies, having massive connection issues. |
| 20:30:06 | pamaury | kugel: yes, after if(DOEPINT(ep) & DOEPINT_setup) |
| 20:30:20 | kugel | so this is in the !dir_in case |
| 20:30:40 | Buschel | kugel: can you please take a look at FS #11610 ? |
| 20:30:59 | kugel | don't you need to flush the cache for outgoing transfers? invalidate doesn't do writeback |
| 20:31:13 | pamaury | that's ingoing transfer |
| 20:31:21 | pamaury | (for setup packet) |
| 20:31:42 | kugel | so "dir_in" is from the host POV? |
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| 20:32:21 | * | kugel wonders why Buschel is the only one refering to the sim as PCSim :) |
| 20:32:29 | pamaury | yes, always with usb |
| 20:32:44 | pamaury | IN is dev->host and OUT is host->dev |
| 20:33:01 | Buschel | kugel: that is because in my company we refer to a PCSim ;-) |
| 20:33:13 | kugel | ok, so my question applies to the dir_in case, although that's not where you removed the invalidate call |
| 20:34:05 | kugel | calling invalidate for either direction seems wrong to me |
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| 20:35:34 | pamaury | why ? When you received data, you should invalidate the cache, otherwise you read the old data |
| 20:35:56 | pamaury | if you send data, you writeback before sending |
| 20:36:09 | kugel | right |
| 20:36:19 | kugel | there's no writeback in the dir_in case |
| 20:36:39 | pamaury | no, you writeback before sending, that's in ep_transfer |
| 20:36:51 | pamaury | and you invalidate _after_ receiving, that's in handle_ep_int |
| 20:37:07 | pamaury | is my logic failing me ? |
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| 20:38:06 | kugel | I don't see a single flush in that file, does that happen in the generic usb code? |
| 20:38:24 | kugel | your logic is write, I just don't see it in the code (but I'm also not familiar with it) |
| 20:38:27 | kugel | right* |
| 20:39:32 | pamaury | yes, it flushes (clean_dcache() in ep_transfer) |
| 20:40:17 | * | kugel fails to find that ep_transfer |
| 20:40:29 | pamaury | usb_drv_transfer |
| 20:40:31 | pamaury | sorry :) |
| 20:40:39 | kugel | ok, I searched for flush, not clean, sorry |
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| 20:41:25 | CIA-81 | New commit by pamaury (r28027): as3525v2-usb: ... |
| 20:41:51 | pamaury | Now I need to fix a few things for usb drivers to work |
| 20:42:54 | CIA-81 | r28027 build result: All green |
| 20:44:23 | kugel | what works now with your commit? |
| 20:45:23 | pamaury | enumeration, and retrieving of all descriptors |
| 20:45:48 | pamaury | it will report a device with no interface currently because I fail the drivers asking for endpoints (not implemented) |
| 20:45:53 | kugel | one last question, why do you invalidate in the dir_in case? |
| 20:46:14 | Buschel | kugel: could r27968 be the cause for the cygwin sim issue? |
| 20:46:24 | pamaury | good question, that's useless :) |
| 20:47:42 | kugel | well, useless or even wrong? doesn't it throw away correct stuff? |
| 20:48:21 | pamaury | not really, the transfer is already finished at this point, and data has already been flushed before transfer |
| 20:49:10 | pamaury | it might be incorrect if the driver rewrite the data after calling usb_drv_send but before the notification of completion, which is really _bad_ practice and dangerous anyway |
| 20:50:59 | kugel | I find it also strange that your removed call fixes anything |
| 20:52:11 | pamaury | me too, but I check and a single line makes everything fail/work. That's a mystery |
| 20:53:05 | pamaury | it would be incredibly unlucky it it had failed for another reason after a one-line change |
| 20:53:12 | pamaury | *would have been |
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| 20:56:35 | Drise | [Saint]: Now that I have cygwin running, what do i do? |
| 20:57:51 | [Saint] | run cygwin, then run the "rockboxdev.sh" script to build the toolchains...then go to bed ;) |
| 20:57:57 | [Saint] | as, you'll be there a while. |
| 20:58:23 | Drise | pamaury: is the USB in svn working for the fuze v2? or is that an intermediate step |
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| 20:58:52 | Drise | and I don't have the svn in cygwin, how do I transfer it from my desktop to the program? |
| 20:59:13 | [Saint] | you *really* should have installed SVN in cygwin |
| 20:59:18 | Drise | I did |
| 20:59:21 | [Saint] | did you not install the packages listed? |
| 20:59:28 | Drise | but I don't have the repository |
| 20:59:51 | [Saint] | Aha...make a checkout via SVN using cygwin |
| 21:00 |
| 21:00:03 | [Saint] | Oh, shitballs. |
| 21:00:13 | | Quit n1s (Quit: Lämnar) |
| 21:00:26 | [Saint] | you'll need to install curl and/or wget in CygWin before you start to build the toolchains |
| 21:00:29 | [Saint] | so, do that. |
| 21:00:38 | pamaury | usb in svn works for me (clip+) so it should work with fuzev2 but it misses a few piece of code, it should work in one hour or so if everything is ok. Notice that current svn has usb disable by default for those targets |
| 21:01:05 | Drise | Hm... true. |
| 21:01:14 | kugel | pamaury: have a patch for me to try? |
| 21:01:28 | kugel | or do I only need to uncomment USE_ROCKBOX_USB? |
| 21:02:18 | [Saint] | Drise: After that, make a Dir in your CygWin Directory (it is important your Dirs have NO SPACES! also) called RB_SOURCE or something, and, checkout the source code after you've cd'd into it. |
| 21:02:20 | Luca_S | usb support means that amsv2 targets have 100% functionality and still are in production - that's a great result :D |
| 21:03:01 | pamaury | you need to uncomment USe_ROCKBOX_USB, comment USb_HANDLEd_BY_OF (I think it's unused but anyway) and that should be sufficient iirc |
| 21:03:42 | [Saint] | Drise: once you're in the dir you want your source code downloaded into, use this command: "svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk rockbox" (without the quotes) to checkout the source code. |
| 21:03:57 | Drise | Already adding, but thanks |
| 21:04:31 | kugel | pamaury: I see the usb logo but no UMS |
| 21:04:33 | Drise | I'm in the users/Drise dir, shouldn't it make a dir "rockbox" via that command? |
| 21:04:53 | [Saint] | Drise: It is rather important none of the paths CygWin will use has any spaces, though. |
| 21:05:08 | [Saint] | that can cause all sorts of hallarity |
| 21:05:13 | Drise | Yes, I'm accustomed to that, as I do C++ in unix environments |
| 21:05:18 | [Saint] | gah! *hillarity |
| 21:06:08 | Drise | Will this mean i'll be able to compile c++ runtimes using cygwin on my windows machine? |
| 21:06:28 | Drise | (I hate having to use SSH to do remotes, and X11 hardly works for me) |
| 21:08:23 | [Saint] | Drise: Yeah, you can use CygWin for a multitude of things. |
| 21:08:58 | [Saint] | Drise: Do you have curl/wget installed? |
| 21:09:28 | Drise | [Saint]: Awesome. Alright, svn is checked out. pwd is /home/Drise/rockbox |
| 21:09:38 | Drise | No I have no idea. |
| 21:10:05 | [Saint] | once you do, go to <PATH_TO_SOURCE>\rockbox\tools and run "./rockboxdev.sh" |
| 21:10:23 | [Saint] | you'll need to run the CygWin setup again to install curl and wget |
| 21:10:39 | [Saint] | (just use the setups search package thingy) |
| 21:10:42 | Drise | Maybe you hsould edit that page and include them |
| 21:11:05 | [Saint] | Drise: It's on my todo ;) |
| 21:11:31 | pamaury | kugel: as I told you, the driver misses the implementation of usb_drv_request_endpoint :) |
| 21:11:44 | pamaury | which I'm writing right now ! |
| 21:11:57 | Drise | [Saint]: where are they located, under which subheading? |
| 21:12:06 | [Saint] | use "search" |
| 21:12:37 | Drise | multiprotocol file transfer? |
| 21:12:41 | Drise | >> curl |
| 21:12:57 | [Saint] | that's the one, you'll probably want wget also |
| 21:13:20 | Drise | yeah, that was a single result so didn;t need to ask |
| 21:13:53 | Drise | installed |
| 21:14:02 | Drise | Next? |
| 21:14:05 | Buschel | kugel: cygwin sim based on r27967 works fine |
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| 21:14:40 | [Saint] | Drise: run CygWin, then go to <PATH_TO_SOURCE>\rockbox\tools and run "./rockboxdev.sh" |
| 21:15:07 | [Saint] | it will then give you options on which toolchains you want to build |
| 21:15:39 | Drise | return e |
| 21:15:40 | Drise | ? |
| 21:16:26 | [Saint] | Hmmmmm...you're in \tools? |
| 21:16:37 | Drise | running said script |
| 21:16:51 | [Saint] | ./rockboxdev.sh |
| 21:16:57 | Drise | yes |
| 21:17:01 | [Saint] | you didn't include the quotes, right? |
| 21:17:09 | Drise | "Select target..." |
| 21:17:22 | [Saint] | there we go \o/ |
| 21:17:31 | [Saint] | what target are you building for? |
| 21:17:35 | [Saint] | or, wanting to? |
| 21:17:38 | Drise | samasa |
| 21:17:43 | Drise | *samsa |
| 21:17:49 | [Saint] | you'll want arm-eabi then |
| 21:17:57 | Drise | return e then? |
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| 21:18:04 | [Saint] | yep |
| 21:18:21 | [Saint] | now, you have a LOT of time to kill...a few hours or so. |
| 21:18:27 | Drise | why? |
| 21:18:38 | [Saint] | for it to build the toolchains |
| 21:18:43 | Drise | 78% complete |
| 21:18:43 | [Saint] | *toolchain |
| 21:18:43 | Drise | ? |
| 21:18:49 | Drise | oh |
| 21:18:54 | Drise | nvm |
| 21:19:03 | [Saint] | you're sure it isn't just downloading something? |
| 21:19:15 | Drise | just downloading, I thought that was all |
| 21:19:33 | [Saint] | a toolchain build that quick on CygWin would probably mean you have "Deep Blue" as a PC ;) |
| 21:19:59 | Drise | It is fairly new, a tri core at 2.1ghz |
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| 21:20:11 | * | [Saint] knows not the names of any modern supercomputers. |
| 21:20:44 | [Saint] | Drise: A couple of hours...I'm interested to see how long it takes, though...perhaps you'll set a new record. |
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| 21:21:08 | [Saint] | the longest its taken that I know of it ~16 hours or so. |
| 21:21:18 | Drise | ive seen it do a mkdir ./intil |
| 21:21:19 | [Saint] | s/it/is/ |
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| 21:21:43 | kugel | a single toolchain should take terribly long |
| 21:21:44 | [Saint] | Drise: you'll see it scroll a LOT of stuff. |
| 21:21:46 | Drise | 16 would be a tad extreme? |
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| 21:21:54 | [Saint] | +nt? |
| 21:21:58 | kugel | but you should probably cancel rockboxdev.sh and edit it to use make -jX |
| 21:22:03 | Drise | is the script just that long, or is it ineffcient? |
| 21:22:16 | gevaerts | Drise: *cygwin* is inefficient |
| 21:22:24 | [Saint] | it's not the script..it's CygWin. |
| 21:22:29 | Drise | Ah |
| 21:22:29 | gevaerts | It takes about ten minutes on my laptop |
| 21:22:43 | gevaerts | (for a single architecture) |
| 21:22:55 | [Saint] | trying to kludge *nix functionality into a Win sys has its price |
| 21:23:02 | Drise | began at 2:17, we will ee then when it is done. |
| 21:23:14 | * | [Saint] "ee"s |
| 21:23:26 | Drise | *see |
| 21:23:51 | Drise | now onto libiberty |
| 21:24:47 | [Saint] | there will be a lot of you thinking "Hmmm, I'm sure its just doing the same thing over and over agin... :/" but, it isn't. |
| 21:24:54 | [Saint] | I assure you ;) |
| 21:25:04 | bertrik | please DON'T keep us up to date about compilation progress :) |
| 21:25:16 | Drise | Sorry. |
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| 21:26:19 | [Saint] | You're fingers, and our eyes, will get very sore ;) |
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| 21:26:21 | Luca_S | in the time I built the environment in cygwin, I downloaded an ubuntu off the net, set up a vm and built the env, rockbox, applied some patches and deployed on device :) |
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| 21:26:40 | Drise | ouch |
| 21:27:07 | Luca_S | but it was a learning experience :D |
| 21:27:10 | saratoga | theres tons of ready build ubuntu images on sourceforge, i would just use those over cygwin |
| 21:27:23 | saratoga | unless you're on dialup its going to be quicker |
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| 21:30:06 | Drise | I'm on effective 2.3MB/s wifi in the house. |
| 21:30:14 | Drise | Downstream atleasr |
| 21:30:24 | Drise | *at least |
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| 21:30:40 | bluebroth3r | [Saint]: yes, and yes. Though my build is at least a couple of days old (haven't checked) |
| 21:31:09 | G4Oblivion | I use Wubi to dual-boot. I just couldn't stand Cygwin. |
| 21:31:10 | [Saint] | bluebroth3r: Thanks, just confirming something is all *phew* |
| 21:31:37 | [Saint] | I got an email from someone flaming me as being a royal jerk for pulling everyones leg with faked screenshots |
| 21:31:44 | [Saint] | bluebroth3r: ^ |
| 21:32:07 | [Saint] | Turns out (my guess) he's running a release build. |
| 21:32:24 | [Saint] | That's the only way I could think it wouldn;t work |
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| 21:32:37 | [Saint] | release build/ancient build |
| 21:33:25 | bluebroth3r | It might be a really good idea to show a splash when loading a theme failed. |
| 21:33:32 | bluebroth3r | IMO of course :) |
| 21:33:45 | [Saint] | bluebroth3r: I have sugegsted this ;) |
| 21:33:45 | Drise | *** Off topic *** Hm.. I'm trying to compile a C++ program using CC, and I'm getting all sorts of errors, any thoughts? |
| 21:33:51 | [Saint] | and, debug info. |
| 21:33:58 | [Saint] | so we know *what* failed. |
| 21:34:00 | bluebroth3r | Drise: CC? |
| 21:34:18 | bertrik | bluebroth3r, yeah, sounds sensible |
| 21:34:20 | Drise | Dunno, just what I have been told to use in our UNIX environ. |
| 21:34:28 | [Saint] | + off topic == no-no |
| 21:34:39 | | Quit xnyhps (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) |
| 21:34:39 | [Saint] | better to ask in #rockbox-community |
| 21:34:51 | bluebroth3r | Drise: on linux you usually use g++. In Makefiles CC is usually the C compiler, not the c++ one |
| 21:34:55 | bluebroth3r | good point. |
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| 21:35:13 | Buschel | kugel: I just found the change which causes the sim failure for cygwin builds -> r27972 |
| 21:35:20 | Drise | Thanks. We use CC in UNIX, so idk. i'll try |
| 21:35:26 | Drise | </offtopic> |
| 21:35:43 | pamaury | hum, my code breaks on UMS, the code doesn't answer to inquiry |
| 21:35:44 | bluebroth3r | bash: CC: command not found |
| 21:35:47 | bluebroth3r | :) |
| 21:36:01 | Drise | CC ran for me, But massive errors. |
| 21:36:10 | Drise | g++ works |
| 21:36:28 | bluebroth3r | maybe CC is an alias on your system. |
| 21:36:47 | pamaury | hum, perhaps because I forgot to set max packet size :) |
| 21:36:48 | kugel | Buschel: that's strange |
| 21:36:56 | [Saint] | bluebroth3r: I have often though (and suggested, a few times) that a splash like "Loading <themename> Failed: Failed to load/find/whatever <thing that it can't load/find/whatever>" |
| 21:37:07 | Buschel | kugel: but a fact |
| 21:37:14 | kugel | go to #rockbox-community for your c++ talk |
| 21:37:15 | Buschel | kugel: any idea? |
| 21:37:33 | kugel | not really |
| 21:38:18 | alexbobP | I use the winamp theme |
| 21:38:25 | alexbobP | and I call my fuze a "pocket winamp" |
| 21:38:41 | alexbobP | because I find it funny |
| 21:38:43 | bluebroth3r | [Saint]: IMO it doesn't even need to be that verbose. A simple "Errors during theme loading. Defaults used." would be sufficient |
| 21:39:16 | [Saint] | yeah, but, if possible some (limited) on device debug info would be good. |
| 21:39:24 | [Saint] | (IMO) |
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| 21:40:55 | Drise | um... done? |
| 21:41:11 | Drise | make: *** [all] error 2 |
| 21:41:14 | [Saint] | we can't tell you that ;) |
| 21:41:28 | Drise | $ prompt |
| 21:41:35 | [Saint] | Oh...can you see from the lines above what failed? |
| 21:42:09 | Drise | somewhat |
| 21:42:20 | Drise | A lot of entering and exiting dirs |
| 21:42:36 | [Saint] | chances are you're missing some dependency, or, a package that .rockboxdev.sh needs |
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| 21:43:01 | * | bluebroth3r steals [Saint] a leading . :) |
| 21:43:02 | Drise | make[4]: *** [size.exe] error 1 |
| 21:43:22 | [Saint] | If you can't be assed with it, grab a VMware image from somewhere |
| 21:44:59 | bertrik | oh great, it seems Fabian Vogel found out how to fix the last bug preventing wakeup from working properly on amsv2 |
| 21:45:32 | [Saint] | the good thing about CygWin I gues is cleanup is VERY easy...delete one Dir, gone...nothing left on the system. |
| 21:45:38 | [Saint] | *guess |
| 21:45:46 | bluebroth3r | same for a vmware image :) |
| 21:46:12 | [Saint] | No idea what's going wrong for you... rockboxdev.sh should be a "run it and leave it" thing, which to me suggests you're missing a package |
| 21:46:32 | Drise | I installed all the ones that were told to |
| 21:46:59 | [Saint] | what package? who knows...but, something fucked up. |
| 21:47:22 | [Saint] | Which is really odd. |
| 21:47:44 | Drise | all of http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CygwinDevelopment#Step_2_1_Package_selection |
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| 21:48:42 | [Saint] | if you have it your history from the prompt...it should be really easy to see where its messing up. |
| 21:48:59 | [Saint] | if not, you're kinda screwed. |
| 21:49:27 | [Saint] | s/it/all/ ...I must be tired. :/ |
| 21:50:16 | Drise | I dont seem to be able to copy paster? |
| 21:50:21 | Drise | *paste? |
| 21:50:54 | bluebroth3r | click the window icon, then select Mark |
| 21:51:34 | Drise | libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/libiconv.la' or unhandled argum |
| 21:51:34 | Drise | ent `/usr/lib/libiconv.la' |
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| 21:53:53 | Drise | for vmware, does winrar handle 7zip? |
| 21:54:34 | bluebroth3r | why not use 7zip? It has the major advantage that it's open source :) |
| 21:54:47 | Drise | I already have winrar |
| 21:54:59 | Drise | otherwise no reason |
| 21:55:12 | bluebroth3r | then you can just try ;-) |
| 21:55:19 | Drise | true |
| 21:55:40 | Drise | yep, it recognizes it |
| 21:56:37 | Drise | ~220mb @ 1MB/s :D |
| 21:56:59 | [Saint] | Drise: you need the libiconv package for CygWin |
| 21:57:05 | [Saint] | *then* it should work. |
| 21:57:21 | [Saint] | search "libiconv" in the setup. |
| 21:57:32 | * | bluebroth3r would have thought that libiconv is pulled as dependency for various other tools |
| 21:58:23 | [Saint] | bluebroth3r: same...but, I had to install it by hand personally. |
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| 22:02:05 | * | pamaury has problem with IN transfer for UMS |
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| 22:04:08 | kugel | try to remove that invalidate call :P |
| 22:04:48 | Drise | running VMware |
| 22:05:07 | Buschel | kugel: any fix at hand? I am lost in your ifdef'ing |
| 22:05:28 | pamaury | kugel: no, the transfer is not going on, for some reason the controller don't send the data |
| 22:05:35 | kugel | Buschel: I have no time right now |
| 22:05:40 | pamaury | I must have forgotten something :) |
| 22:05:54 | Drise | [Saint]: how do I restart the build? |
| 22:06:26 | [Saint] | Drise: which? |
| 22:06:42 | Drise | cygwin ./rockboxdev.sh |
| 22:06:55 | pamaury | hum, I forgot the next field of DEPCTL |
| 22:06:59 | Buschel | kugel: maybe it would be a good idea to submit patches and call for testers if you cannot test under cygwin |
| 22:07:07 | [Saint] | just re-run the script...if it complains about a dir existing, delete it. |
| 22:07:09 | Drise | or simply compile in vmware |
| 22:07:34 | [Saint] | VMware is another persons territory, sorry. |
| 22:08:00 | kugel | Buschel: I don't think so |
| 22:08:46 | kugel | not my fault if cygwin doesn't work like linux as it pretends to do |
| 22:08:58 | Buschel | kugel: why? I also call for tester if I do not own a special target that a change should be tested on |
| 22:09:01 | kugel | also, we recommend VMs over cygwin since ages for several good reasons |
| 22:09:29 | Buschel | but we did not drop support |
| 22:10:07 | kugel | I even tested a win32 cross compile, and I don't want to hold back stuff because of the minority of cygwin users which we at best don't want to see anyway |
| 22:10:42 | Drise | kugel, can you help me than? |
| 22:10:45 | Drise | 8then |
| 22:10:47 | kugel | we never really supported simulators, our "product" is the firmware not the sim |
| 22:10:50 | Drise | ugh *then |
| 22:11:25 | kugel | shall I wait for BSD and mac users to test patches as well? if yes then I can sit a few month on the smallest patches |
| 22:11:44 | Buschel | kugel: it is not about holding back. it is just about esnuring proper function. now we are facing a situation were we need to research the reason (ok, only for 1 week back). |
| 22:12:56 | kugel | in my experience cygwin behavior is almost always matches with a win32 cross build under wine, and I checked that |
| 22:13:06 | Drise | [Saint]: where is the directory it is bitching about? |
| 22:13:15 | Drise | 'build-...' |
| 22:13:28 | Drise | 'build-binutils' |
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| 22:14:14 | [Saint] | in one of your /tmp's |
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| 22:15:09 | Drise | Shoudl I delete both dirs |
| 22:15:11 | Drise | ? |
| 22:15:24 | [Saint] | yep, it will cry about both existing |
| 22:15:27 | Drise | rbdev-buil rbdev-dl |
| 22:16:52 | Drise | Hm... is orgot, can I force deletion, or do I have to clear out each dir before deletion |
| 22:16:56 | Drise | *I forgot |
| 22:17:24 | [Saint] | ? |
| 22:17:39 | Drise | "Directory not empty" Can I force it? |
| 22:17:56 | [Saint] | sure |
| 22:18:07 | Drise | sorry, what command? |
| 22:18:22 | [Saint] | just delete it from windows explorer. |
| 22:18:27 | Drise | True |
| 22:18:33 | [Saint] | (== easier) |
| 22:18:39 | Drise | So used to only be allowed from cmd line |
| 22:23:50 | Drise | Apologies for any furute off topics, I'm doign my best to aviod them |
| 22:23:50 | Drise | *furture |
| 22:23:50 | Drise | *future.... wow |
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| 22:29:23 | Drise | For VMware, how do I transfer in files off my harddrive |
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| 22:41:18 | pixelma | kugel: there still seem to be more cygwin users than Mac or FreeBSD ones - at least if you go by how quick and frequent it is reported if something breaks |
| 22:41:29 | pixelma | I mean for compiling |
| 22:42:08 | * | [Saint] would be happy to test CygWin patches/things that may break CygWin...I'm sure pixelma and amiconn would be also. |
| 22:42:30 | [Saint] | Simply saying "I don;t really care if I break support for CygWin is a little....crap" |
| 22:42:58 | [Saint] | (I realise those weren;t the exact words, but, it was the impression I was given" |
| 22:43:08 | [Saint] | -"+) |
| 22:43:41 | gevaerts | If you can't commit unless you tested on all systems that might *possibly* be affected, we might as well close down |
| 22:44:31 | CIA-81 | New commit by pamaury (r28028): as3525v2-usb: all control operations are working, there is a problem with UMS: the IN transfer to respond to inquiry does not start, resulting in not ... |
| 22:44:37 | gevaerts | If cygwin behaves differently from mingw, and breaking cygwin compilation is critical enough that it can't wait for someone to report it, there should be cygwin build clients |
| 22:45:27 | pixelma | I thought it was reported, maybe I missed the beginning of the discussion |
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| 22:46:21 | CIA-81 | r28028 build result: 21 errors, 6 warnings (pamaury committed) |
| 22:46:22 | pixelma | but a simple call for testers doesn't hurt, IMO. I expect asking for testers if you commit for e.g. a target you don't own |
| 22:47:09 | pixelma | I don't expect people to wait endlessly for an answer but at least try to find someone |
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| 22:48:39 | pamaury | oops |
| 22:50:31 | CIA-81 | New commit by pamaury (r28029): as3525v2-usb: fix red and fix stupid typo about endpoint status |
| 22:52:04 | CIA-81 | r28029 build result: All green |
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| 22:58:28 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
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| 23:00:14 | * | pamaury makes a step forward a working usb driver |
| 23:01:27 | CIA-81 | New commit by pamaury (r28030): as3525v2-usb: don't disable data transfers ! |
| 23:01:28 | pamaury | *torward |
| 23:01:45 | pixelma | towards? |
| 23:02:10 | pamaury | grr |
| 23:02:12 | [Saint] | toward and towards both work in that case, but, forward does not. |
| 23:02:13 | pamaury | :) |
| 23:02:25 | gevaerts | forward towards would work too |
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| 23:03:01 | CIA-81 | r28030 build result: All green |
| 23:03:13 | [Saint] | forward toward, also |
| 23:03:19 | pamaury | I'm nearly done ! Now the UMS storage is detected but for some reason, linux never mount the driver, just like if the device was never ready, something is still wrong |
| 23:03:27 | kugel | but rewind torward not |
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