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#rockbox log for 2010-09-17

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01:45:41pixelmaJdGordon: should your latest commits have an influence on the patch you posted to flyspray? I'm asking because I just tried a build on my Ondio based on r28085 before noticing that I hadn't updated before. If it shouldn't matter I have to report that the patch doesn't help with the issue. I'll try with an upped version anyway but planned to go to sleep now
01:51:02pixelmanevermind, I just tried with a patched r28095 and no change
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03:39:19ruckus1hey peoples. i've been having some problems with the themes on my ipod video 30gig rockbox
03:39:52ruckus1is anyone here that may help me, before i explain what's going on?
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03:43:56JdGordon|dont ask to ask
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03:43:58JdGordon|just ask
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03:52:09ruckus1JdGordon, just making sure people are here
03:52:34ruckus1anyway, i updated to the latest current build yesterday
03:53:09ruckus1and my theme that i was using "Rockboxed" started acting up while in browsing mode
03:53:18ruckus1it was very glitchy and weird
03:53:39ruckus1just few minutes ago, i updated again, and i also redownloaded the theme itself
03:53:57JdGordon|glitchy and wierd how?
03:54:05ruckus1while the glitches are gone in the browsing mode
03:54:23ruckus1the "now playing" screen is... hmm. i don't know how to explain it
03:54:31ruckus1very different
03:54:36JdGordon|then take a screenshot
03:54:36ruckus1i'll make a screen shot
03:54:47ruckus1what was the trick to take one?
03:57:57ruckus1nevermind, just a sec
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03:58:58ruckus1JdGordon| ok, it looks like this
03:59:35JdGordon|that isnt glitchy.. that is the fallback wps whcih means your theme didnt load
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03:59:59ruckus1i didn't say it was glitchy
04:00:01ruckus1i said the browsing mode was glitchy
04:00:28ruckus1but anyway, this isn't the only theme that has this problem
04:00:56ruckus1there are few other that i've tried, but all of them get this screen
04:01:03ruckus1i can provide a list if you wish.
04:01:20JdGordon|any theme which gets you that display is broken
04:01:35ruckus1i assumed so
04:01:43JdGordon|it doesnt load correctly because it uses the old syntax is or bad tags or whatever
04:02:04ruckus1is there a way to make sure this isn't something else?
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04:02:35JdGordon|no, that *is* the problem
04:02:45JdGordon|rockbox is working fine
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04:03:56JdGordon|what build are you using and where did you get the theme from?
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04:04:16ruckus1i used the rbutilqt to get the themes
04:04:29ruckus1and the current build
04:05:20ruckus1i checked my configuration of it, but it is correct
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04:08:50ruckus1JdGordon| , so basically I should use a different theme?
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04:09:12JdGordon|or fix the one you want
04:10:10ruckus1i'll just do a simple delete/reinstall of the themes, and see what happens
04:10:13JdGordon|rockboxed works with the current theme, so you have done something wrong
04:10:29ruckus1current theme?
04:10:36JdGordon|currne tbuild*
04:11:14JdGordon|so either you arnt using the current build, rbutil thinks you arnt using the current build, or it isnt installing the theme properly
04:11:29ruckus1i see. i'll reinstall everything manually
04:14:49ruckus1JdGordon|, that fixed it. i should've done it one by one to see what was the problem
04:15:19ruckus1the glitches in the browsing mode are back! :(
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04:16:01JdGordon|glitch is an incredibly useless adjective
04:16:46ruckus1hold your horses with the sassiness, i'm making a screenshot so i can help! :)
04:22:20ruckus1did you see it? JdGordon|
04:22:41JdGordon|you;re assuming I know what the theme is supposed to look liek
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04:23:41ruckus1if you don't wanna help, don't waste my time! asshole
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08:12:31TheSargeAnyone awake?
08:12:59TheSargeI was just curious if it is possible for an nes or snes emulator to be built to run on rockbox?
08:15:21JdGordonthere is a patch on the tracker (I tihnk) which adds it
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08:53:47TheSargeJdGordon: The Tracker?
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09:44:29Eldrekwas hoping to get some help with my ipod video, any takers?
09:44:57AlexPJust ask
09:45:04AlexPIf anyone knows they will answer
09:46:20Eldrekwell, two things started happening just today, for one, building database just sits there for ages and never finishes. and if I let it sit long enough it tells me "shutting down", then the screen turns white and stays that way until I power it off
09:46:23kugelsomeone on the gcc mailing list has problems with our FasterMDCT
09:47:35Eldrekso now I can't use my iPod anymore since I had all my music in mass storage, heh
09:48:40AlexPWell that depends how you transfered it
09:48:59AlexPIf you used itunes then you need the database as it cocks up the filenames
09:49:17AlexPAnyway, did you transfer new music in between last time it worked and when it stopped?
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09:49:32AlexPAs it sometimes chokes on weird tags
09:49:45Eldrekno new music
09:49:53AlexPThen connect to a PC, remove all the *.tcd files in the .rockbox directory and try again
09:50:11gevaertsIf the problem persists, also check the filesystem
09:50:11Eldrekalright, already tried uninstalling and reinstalling rockbox though
09:50:46gevaertsIf you just uninstalled using Rockbox Utility, the database files won't have been removed I think
09:50:53Eldrekoh, alright
09:51:41kugel"This patch gives huge speedup on
09:52:00Eldrekwhere are the .tcd files? i don't see any in the .rockbox directory
09:52:57AlexPThat's where they are if they exist (which they should do if the database has been doing stuff)
09:53:06AlexPIn that case, check your disk for errors
09:53:17AlexPfsck.vfat in linux, chkdsk in windows
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09:54:04markunkugel: do you have a link?
09:54:43kugelIt's not yet in the archives
09:54:56Eldrekwindows has checked the file system and found no problems :S
09:55:46AlexPWith chkdsk from a command line?
09:57:03AlexPDunno then
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09:57:23kugelsaratoga, stripwax, markun:
09:57:29AlexPHardly any devs use the database, hang around to see if anyone has any ideas
09:57:37gevaertsEldrek: which version are you running?
09:58:19*gevaerts continues with generic questions, possibly tweaked for ipod video, just to collect information that may or may not be helpful
09:58:35AlexPAre you of good moral standing? :)
09:58:51Eldrekby my own morals, maybe :)
09:59:00Eldrekthe morals of others, likely not
09:59:10pixelmaJdGordon: what ruckus1 said and showed is something I noticed too on my M5: if you are using a WPS that sets a backdrop but your theme has no "global" backdrop and there is no sbs - then you get the WPS backdrop in the lists now. Since I know you're not around now, I'm going to flyspray it (but maybe you'll see the message and it could help if anyone else comes in and asks)
10:00:54gevaertsEldrek: what does "for ages" (approximately) mean?
10:01:55Eldrekexaggeration of a something taking a long time?
10:02:08gevaertsI know that...
10:02:22gevaertsDo you mean an hour, a day, or two weeks?
10:02:34gevaertsMaybe it just runs out of battery? The shutdown should still not hang of course, but maybe that's "just" a bug with battery-low shutdown while a database rebuild is running
10:02:38EldrekOh, about an hour. if not more
10:03:00gevaertsis dircache enabled?
10:03:18Eldrekwell, it's showing the battery at full. though I just realized all of my music is gone somehow
10:04:22gevaertsGone in what way?
10:05:08Eldrekit's not on the disk anymore
10:05:52pixelmathe database hangs at initialising when no idea file is around (long standing bug)
10:06:07pixelmaerr.... audio file, I mean
10:06:16Eldrekah, well that must have been the problem
10:06:21*pixelma wonders how tat happened
10:06:35pixelmaor that... back to typing school
10:07:39Eldrekokay, it's working now that I actually have music on it >.< sorry to bother you all. no idea how my music just disappeared
10:07:46gevaertsEldrek: you're not storing your audio files inside .rockbox, are you?
10:08:11Eldrekno, gevaerts. just in the root of my ipod
10:08:44gevaertsI'm asking because I'm not *entirely* sure about Rockbox Utility not removing .rockbox if there are files in it that it didn't install
10:12:41Eldrekits ok now, but I think the white screen I was getting may have been unrelated to the database bug. I'll report back if I get it again
10:15:55pixelmaJdGordon: in addition - global backdrop or not doesn't matter, the WPS backdrop takes priority
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10:21:25pixelmaquick SBS writing question - if I just want an SBS that is not different from the non-SBS look but sets a backdrop what elements do I need - just the %X or do I still need to set a list viewport and possibly the "statusbar enable" tag? (in case someone knows...)
10:22:54AlexPEldrek: It isn't your fault, it is an ages old bug that it hangs if there is no audio files, which it obviously shouldn't
10:23:09AlexPBut the database gets very little love, I don't think there is anyone working on it
10:23:23AlexPAs most devs just use the filebrowser
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10:26:24pixelmalooks like I just have to try... step by step. I'd hoped someone who already did some SBS coding might know or could at least make an educated guess (maybe AlexP?)
10:26:34Eldrekwell, at first I used the database because I had music on it from itunes. I assume it's the only way to access that music but I've since formatted my ipod and dropped all my music in the root directory
10:27:00AlexPYeah, if you use itunes you have to use the database as itunes is stupid
10:27:10AlexPBut if you copy paste then you can do what you want :)
10:27:22Eldrekthats the main reason I got rockbox ;)
10:27:28AlexPpixelma: Don't know I'm afraid
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10:27:43Eldrekand besides, who doesn't love doom?
10:27:47AlexPpixelma: I would guess that if you just set the backdrop you wouldn't get anything else
10:28:00AlexPEldrek: Yeah, it is a boon
10:28:29AlexPI got my first dap (H100) partly as it let me not use any stupid management software and to browse the files as I wanted them organised
10:28:41AlexPThen Rockbox came along :)
10:29:12pixelmaAlexP: hmm... and is the list viewport everything or everything minus statusbar area (when I use the built-in one with %we then, I guess?)
10:29:20AlexPpixelma: Oh, sorry - I see what you mean (I think)
10:29:40AlexPhang on, I've confused myself
10:30:19pixelmajust want to test if an sbs makes the WPS backdrop in menus go away
10:30:30pixelma(if it sets a backdrop)
10:30:54AlexPI'm not sure - I've always used one to make my own statusbar, I've not tried with the built in one
10:31:09AlexPBut just the backdrop setting might have a chance
10:31:18AlexPI'd be interested to hear the outcome :)
10:31:35pixelmanope, it doesn't (the setting I mean)
10:32:06pixelmawhich build are you running and do you set different backdrops in the SBS and WPS?
10:32:35pixelmamaybe you could help out testing ;)
10:33:02AlexPI'm running one from yesterday evening
10:33:09AlexPand yeah, sure
10:33:12AlexPOne mo
10:33:15pixelmaI'm just gathering info for the bug report
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10:38:29AlexPI have a different backdrop in the WPS to in the menus, but the menu one is set in the theme.cfg not the sbs
10:43:27pixelmaand the global one is showing? Which revision is this exactly?
10:44:56AlexPyeah, global is there
10:45:19pixelmahuh, weird. It does for me too now, after just leaving the USB screen
10:45:44pixelmait didn't after just setting the bmp as backdrop
10:46:10AlexPmaybe not reloaded properly at load, and USB forces a refresh?
10:46:25pixelmaafter a reboot I'm back to the WPS backdrop :/
10:46:32AlexPvery odd
10:55:24pixelmahmm, I'll try another backdrop, I tried with the cabbiev2.bmp and it confused me because it means I have no "backdrop:" line in the cfg as it is the default setting. I can reproduce the USB screen thing with it though, entering and leaving the WPS has no influence, just that once I get the correct backdrop after leaving the USB screen it stays correct even when the WPS backdrop had to be displayed in the meantime o.O
10:57:14*pixelma wonders if this is a lcd remote targets problem again (maybe even just for greyscale lcd remote)
10:58:51pixelmaalthough... the reporter that was here a few hours ago seemed to have something else, as he showed a colour "Rockboxed", somewhat bigger than the X5's would be
10:59:49pixelma320x240 - no remote target
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11:09:58pixelmaWTF? After setting an SBS that just has an %X line in it, I get the global backdrop - sometimes "shifted" and with some screen corruption, reboot and back to the WPS backdrop
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11:14:39pixelma*sometimes* there is no backdrop at all after switching themes, even when they have one in the WPS, it comes back on reboots or switching screens.... I give up for now. At least theme switching doesn't freeze my M5 anymore. </monologue>
11:16:12AlexPIt all sounds a little random
11:18:08pixelmaindeed. The symptoms are reproducable though (something weird will happen). One thing I'll try now if it also happens in a sim.
11:18:35pixelma"reproducible" probably
11:23:04pixelmait's just hard to describe in a bug report
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11:49:36pixelmaAlexP: could you try loading cabbiev2 as a second quick test? I'm just a bit puzzled why I see the problems and someone else showed it here in the night and you wouldn't see it.
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12:44:42AlexPpixelma: Sure, just load cabbie v2 and see if the backdrops are as should be?
12:45:48AlexPpixelma: Looks fine, and then going back to mine was fine too
12:46:28AlexPpixelma: Just setting a backdrop doesn't work though
12:46:44AlexPIt overwrites bits of the screen but not all
12:47:19AlexPHowever loading a theme is fine
12:48:55AlexPIs it just set as backdrop context menu that is broken for you too?
12:49:09AlexPI suppose trying to put just the backdrop in a cfg file might be interesting
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12:54:46pixelmaif you set the backdrop (which doesn't appear at first) - does it help if you enter USB screen and leave it? In case you have means to test.
12:55:20pixelmait's not the backdrop setting in general which is the main problem. The problem is that I see the WPS backdrop in the menus
12:56:35pixelmathanks for testing btw., I thought I was going crazy
13:02:34AlexPIt is better if I plug then unplug USB - now the new backdrop is there except for where I have transparent sections on sbs icons - these still show the old backdrop
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13:03:42AlexPI only see any sort of glitch if I load a backdrop through the set as backdrop context menu though - if I load a theme through browse themes it works OK
13:09:20pixelmaok, thanks. I guess it is a quite general "Backdrop handling broken" then
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13:27:11funmanI wonder why the guy needs -fPIC on ARM
13:28:32TheSargeSo to use one of these patches like the gameboy one I have to build from source? There is no Binaries for my Fuze v2?
13:28:50TheSargeI am in a windows enviroment and cant really compile right now.
13:29:14funman should answer your questions
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13:32:22TheSargeNo it doesnt at all, it just a howto on building the patches.. I asked if there were binaries...
13:32:39TheSargePrebuilt Binaries...
13:33:50funmanthere is no binaries
13:34:59TheSargeI am sure there are lol, please don't "help" me anymore. Your just RTFM'n like a troll.
13:34:59pixelmaAlexP: sorry to bother you once more. Maybe the presence of a set and correctly working SBS helps in your case. What if you remove the "sbs:" line from your config.cfg. If the themes you are switching to don't have one, I believe it won't get removed. Or maybe I should get an sbs working for my M5 - I believe the reason for the behaviour I described before is that my SBS was rejected and I got to see a fallback one.
13:35:21TheSargePeople have built these patches therefor there are binaries..
13:36:38AlexPTheSarge: er, no
13:36:44AlexPThat doesn't follow
13:36:45pixelmaif they don't post them somewhere
13:36:54AlexP1) They don't have to have made them available
13:37:15AlexP2) The Rockbox project doesn't do that, so if there are we have no idea where they are
13:37:33AlexPand 3) It isn't a good idea to tell devs they are trolling if you want help
13:37:55TheSargeHe was of no help. I found the Binaries on my own lol.
13:38:07AlexPThat is funny!
13:38:27TheSargeIf that ignorant script kiddie is a dev I am taking RockBox off of all my devices.
13:38:36AlexPPlease do, and then leave
13:38:43gevaertsOr leave first
13:38:54TheSargeHe doesn't know Regex from Redirect.
13:38:57pixelmaTheSarge: you can have a look in the "Unsupported Builds forum", maybe someone posted a build with it. They are called unsupported for a reason though
13:39:00AlexPSeeing as if you are using a recent sansa, you have him to thank
13:39:02TheSargeLmao Boot me mr Dev.
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13:39:35TheSargeLol Nice.
13:39:48TheSargefunman isnt a dev like I said.
13:39:54AlexPBehave, stop insulting people, or get banned
13:40:10AlexPAnd don't talk crap
13:40:23TheSargeEver seen an oline here on freenode? Ya know what it is?
13:40:43TheSargeWhois me newb.
13:41:01TheSargeWhy would you say there are no Bins, when there are tons?
13:41:11TheSargeJust to be a dick or?
13:41:28AlexPWe do not supply any
13:41:34AlexPThis really is your last warning
13:41:38TheSargeThat isn't what I had asked, was it?
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13:44:45pixelmaAlexP: seen my question before this incident?
13:45:18AlexPSo try removing the sbs line, then switch themes?
13:45:39pixelmayes, if you were so kind
13:45:59AlexPcan do :)
13:47:42AlexPFrom the config.cfg, or the theme cfg?
13:49:47pixelmaconfig.cfg I think, because I think it would stay there if a theme.cfg doesn't have one... which is what I'm curious about
13:50:32pixelmaor not? I think I'm confusing myself a bit
13:50:50AlexPI removed it from both, and now all works properly, even context −−> set as backdrop
13:52:03AlexPIn fact I only commented it out of config.cfg and it has been removed altogether
13:53:40pixelmadidn't expect that... I think I really leave it for now. Thanks again
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13:56:14wodzI've got mpio hd300 at my hands to hack :-)
13:56:45pixelmawouldn't it be better to leave it in one piece ;)
13:57:56pixelmawodz: what is different in comparison to the HD200?
13:59:38wodz1) different LCD 2) different button handling 3) presence of RTC
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14:00:21wodzdifferent drive type (1" in HD200, 1.8" in HD300)
14:01:01wodzBDM connector seem to mirrored (as an effect of placing it on different PCB layer)
14:03:36wodzthe last difference is so dumb that at first I couldn't believe
14:06:51pixelmadoes the LCD have a different resolution or bit depth?
14:07:24wodzthe lcd is the same as in iaudio m5 I belive
14:08:02pixelmaah, then you don't have to write a new driver :)
14:08:56pixelmaand a very common resolution which means you don't need new graphics or so
14:09:05wodzthe RTC used is s35380a - it is very similar to s35390a for which there is driver in rb
14:09:31wodzin fact the only bit which is missing is button reading routine
14:10:35wodzBut first I have to force the unit to speak with me using BDM. My hardware used with hd200 doesn't work because mirroring of bdm connector :-/
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15:27:04Eldrek0.5mm? where did you find one that small
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16:54:23manotrollUse the recovery mode for c200V2 ??
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16:57:44pixelmamanotroll: can you rephrase?
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17:00:08fuzeA got a question, when I would like to use it, what do I need to do with that ?
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17:01:46manotrolluse Use the recovery mode for sansa c200v2
17:02:16pixelmafuze: the feature is in the current builds and I think the manual describes how to use it
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17:03:35manotrollyes but the link does not show the card version c200v2
17:06:56fuzepixelma : unfortunetly it doesn't
17:11:10manotrollbut I must follow which card to do the welding and that type of capacitor?
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17:11:51pixelmafuze: and look for the "Activate hotkey function" entry and follow the links. Pictureflow needs to be set up too (there is also a pictureflow section in the manual under "Plugins")
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17:13:24saratogamanotroll: i don't think anyone has found a recovery mode on the c200v2
17:13:31saratogathere may be one, we don't know
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17:16:53manotrollyou do not understand I want to recover my sansa c200v2 because he corrupted and does not add but nothing and formats
17:18:02manotroll(But you must do the same as booting the ds card?
17:20:14manotrollsaratoga: But you must do the same as booting the ds card?
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17:53:29ranmapixelma: Haven't found pads you can bridge for recovery mode, but I haven't looked much either
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18:11:26alexbobPcorruption, on a fat32 device? naww...
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18:33:46notlisteninghi, how is the development of the Rockbox app going... have a dell streak that I am happy to do some testing if it is anywhere near ready
18:37:25notlisteningwhat happened to the irc channel?
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18:44:09AlexPnotlistening: AFAIK it works reasonably on some phones, but isn't near a release
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18:46:03notlisteningam i able to try
18:48:39krazykitnotlistening, those with knowledge about the android port might not be around right now. i'm sure they'll answer when they see your question
18:49:22notlisteningyeah i will wait krazykit
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19:47:02soapwhy can I not comment out #define HAVE_PITCHSCREEN w/o the build failing error: ‘PITCH_SPEED_100’ undeclared here (not in a function)
19:47:30soapshouldn't that be checked for in dsp.c or am I missing something obvious in my ignorance?
19:48:56soapsimilar situation with #define HAVE_RECORDING. Though those are warnings, not errors in rockbox/firmware/target/arm/sandisk/audio-c200_e200.c
19:49:50bertriksoap, the HAVE_PITCHSCREEN thing looks like a bug
19:49:52gevaertsthose are bugs I'd say
19:49:53soapI've have not commented out HAVE_PITCHSCREEN before, so I have no idea if that is new behavior, but I have long commented out HAVE_RECORDING and I don't recall seeing that before (though I'm not claiming it is recent, my e200 build was ancient).
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19:50:59funmanonly the sim and the archos player don't have pitchscreen so it's likely an untested combination (native lcd bitmap player without pitchscreen)
19:52:13soapShould I open (a) FS task(s) or...
19:52:26funmanwrite a patch? yes that's better ;)
19:56:05soapoh, wait, dsp._o_, not dsp._c_. Abandon all hope!
19:59:01funmani think sound_set_pitch() should be under #HAVE_PITCHSCREEN too, unless there is a way other than pitchscreen to change the pitch?
19:59:04*gevaerts thinks that (nearly) all HAVE_* should support not being there
19:59:41funmanthat might be easy to test: create a new player with a nearly empty config/model.h ?
20:00:15funman//#define HAVE_BUTTONS
20:02:20soapbah, I was wrong. I'm unable to undeclare HAVE_RECORDING w/o barfing a ton of errors as well.
20:13:56soapSansa e200 build fails when HAVE_RECORDING is commented out, but iPod Video does not.
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20:16:05funmansoap: audio-c200_e200.c i presume?
20:16:48soapyes, sorry for not being explicit
20:18:02soapthat's with HAVE_RECORDING, REC_SAMPR_CAPS, etc commented out of sansae200.h
20:19:48bertrikI think it very hard to avoid breakage like this
20:19:57soapWith HAVE_RECORDING only commented out the result is identical.
20:20:04funmanyou might be able to copy audio_input_mux() as is from audio-as3525.c (the whole function, with its #ifdef hell)
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20:21:11gevaertsAm I right in assuming that HAVE_PITCHSCREEN is intended to mean HAVE_PITCH_ADJUSTMENT?
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20:21:43gevaertsI mean, not *just* the screen
20:21:47bertrikI don't know, but it would make sense
20:21:51funmangevaerts: check where sound_set_pitch() is called
20:22:02gevaertsfunman: oh, sure. Nearly there :)
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20:26:34gevaertsdisabling HAVE_LCD_BITMAP has the interesting effect of making debug_menu.c complain about not having ROM_VERSION :)
20:28:21notlisteningDell Streak running rockbox ;) nice
20:29:56soaptesting, gevaerts
20:30:14gevaertsI know it compiles cleanly :)
20:31:55soapwould help if I saved my changes to sansae200.h
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20:34:15soapI assume you only built the binary?
20:34:47gevaertsplugins also build here
20:35:38soaphmm, a problem with my tree?
20:36:19gevaertstry a more thorough clean of the build directory
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20:38:43soapas in cleaner than makeveryclean?
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20:39:16gevaertsis there anything left?
20:39:49soapautoconf.h and Makefile
20:39:57soapthen I run rbconf again
20:40:09soaprm -rf ing
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20:43:22soapfresh checkout, patch coming up.
20:45:33soapditto, GeekShadow
20:45:36soapgevaerts even
20:46:19gevaertssoap: I just recompiled here, no problems...
20:46:59soapfresh tree, nothing but your patch, HAVE_PITCHSCREEN being commented out the only other change.
20:47:21soapUsing arm-elf-eabi-gcc 4.4.4 (404)
20:47:22soapUsing arm-elf-eabi-ld
20:48:44gevaertssame here
20:49:12gevaertswell, ld is 20100303, but that's unrelated
20:49:26soapbad select on my part
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20:49:48gevaertsah, right
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20:53:47gevaertssoap: does "make $PWD/sysfont.h" work?
20:54:02soapone sec, trying something else.
20:54:22soapmake works
20:54:34soappreviously I was doing "make -j && make zip"
20:54:56soapmake zip works
20:55:56gevaertsok, so we still have a dependency bug somewhere. I build with -j3
20:57:05soapwhy would make AND make -j3 work but make -j not? (dual core system, I assume it is defaulting to -j3).
21:00:24gevaertsmake -j works here too, but that many compilations make my machine a bit sluggish
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21:05:29CIA-81New commit by gevaerts (r28096): Make the call to buttonlight_on() properly depend on HAVE_BUTTON_LIGHT
21:07:16CIA-81r28096 build result: All green
21:09:15funmani haven't seen the buildsystem fail for some time though
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21:13:16CIA-81New commit by alex (r28097): Manual: Add the %if tag to the manual. Closes bug FS #11555.
21:13:22CIA-81New commit by alex (r28098): Manual: add the bar tag themeing possibilites to the manual. Closes bug FS #11543.
21:13:29CIA-81New commit by alex (r28099): Manual: Clarify that the player must be running to charge/power over USB. Closes bug FS #11504.
21:14:56CIA-81r28097 build result: All green
21:16:33CIA-81r28099 build result: All green
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21:18:12JeromMaybe no one cares but shouldn't get_time return "const struct tm *" instead of "struct tm *" ?
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21:20:25funmani dont think it's very important
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21:30:29gevaertssoap: should allow disabling recording
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21:31:14soapbut pitchscreen is still borked!
21:31:27gevaertsYou didn't tell me!
21:32:52soapthe whole -j / -j3 issue...
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21:33:39gevaertsThat's (possibly) a makefile issue. My patch can't really change that
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21:35:40gevaertshm, can we assume that if nobody challenged the "Type of LCD TODO: hopefully the same as the x5 but check this" comment for e200, the TODO can be removed?
21:35:59soaplol, I was a bit curious about that.
21:36:00gevaertsThat's been there for four years now. I'd assume that if it was wrong, we'd know
21:36:32funmanconfig/* is full of outdated comments
21:39:15*gevaerts could accidentally commit his current config-e200.h. This would produce a 140K delta
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21:39:42gevaertsPeople might complain though
21:39:46soapNOT I
21:40:20gevaertsYou don't use album art?
21:40:36gevaertsOr the quickscreen maybe :)
21:41:03soapnope, disable quickscreen. Use album art. You're talking about your "as empty as possible" config.h?
21:41:20soapok, I won't complain if you ask nice.
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22:00:09CIA-81New commit by gevaerts (r28100): Only define USB_ENABLE_STORAGE if USB_HAS_BULK and USE_ROCKBOX_USB are both set
22:01:44CIA-81r28100 build result: All green
22:02:26funmangevaerts: all users of doom on fuzev2 thank you
22:02:43funmanand will curse us when usb is working
22:04:52saratogawhats the minimum config for?
22:05:16soapthank you, gevaerts. My E200 is back to it's minimalist glory!
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22:05:57gevaertssaratoga: (a) making sure that various HAVE_* defines work as expected (i.e. they actually enable or disable the feature), and (b) keep soap happy
22:06:44soapthat was an impressive delta.
22:09:39gevaerts"#if ((defined(MEMORYSIZE) && (MEMORYSIZE >= 8)) || MEM >= 8)" doesn't look right
22:13:15CIA-81New commit by gevaerts (r28101): Simplify unnecessary baroque preprocessor condition a bit
22:14:46CIA-81r28101 build result: All green
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22:18:44Eldrekso when I got up this morning my ipod white screened again, definitely unrelated to the database bug I encountered
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22:19:05EldrekIt seems like whenever it tries to go into sleep mode the screen just goes white
22:19:12fmlAlexP: hello. Why do we need a manual line break before a subsection (in sound_settings.tex)? Isn't that style discouraged in TeX?
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22:19:56fmlI didn't build the manual my only assumption is that it looks better that way.
22:20:02pixelmaEldrek: do you mean it just stays this way with turned on backlight and doesn't turn off?
22:20:12Eldrekyes, pixel
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22:23:15AlexPfml: Spacing, no idea about tex style guidelines
22:24:37AlexPIt might not be needed actually, I might have added that before deciding to have a subsection
22:24:42AlexPI can't remember
22:26:28Bagderso if you're in Stockholm Sweden tomorrow, you can hear me do a talk on Rockbox
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22:27:52fmlAlexP: I thought all the spacing is taken care of by the smart latex styles −− that's the point in them.
22:28:04AlexPexcept for when it looks crap
22:28:12fmlAlexP: just wantedt to ask
22:28:18AlexPanyway, feel free to change
22:28:26AlexPI'm not particularly bothered :)
22:28:39fmlAlexP: no, not now.
22:28:49CIA-81New commit by gevaerts (r28102): Make disabling HAVE_PITCHSCREEN actually work without breaking the build
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22:30:40CIA-81r28102 build result: 251 errors, 0 warnings (gevaerts committed)
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22:31:35fmlgevaerts: PI_U_TCHSCREEN?
22:32:11fmlgevaerts: in sound_menu.c
22:32:59gevaertsHow did that happen?
22:33:13gevaertsI compiled this, and soap compiled this...
22:33:19fmlgevaerts: you didn't enable the option back! :-P
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22:34:49CIA-81New commit by gevaerts (r28103): Fix red, stupid typo
22:36:55CIA-81r28103 build result: All green
22:38:07Eldrekpixelma: do you know why my ipod is doing that, and how to fix it?
22:39:53pixelmasorry, no idea (I don't have an Ipod). I just thought you might get confused because Rockbox turns the backlight for a second while turning off, showing the "shutting down..." splash. It shouldn't stay this way though
22:40:10pixelmawhich build are you running exactly?
22:40:23pixelmaand when did you install the bootloader
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22:41:44Acornhmm, when I browse to my Sansa Clip+'s drive letter, and click on the autodetect button in the rockboxutility setup, the program crashes. Does this happen with anyone else?
22:41:56Eldrekrunning 3.6, I installed the bootloader about a month ago I guess? when I first installed rockbox..
22:42:47CIA-81New commit by gevaerts (r28104): Allow e200 to compile without HAVE_RECORDING
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22:44:47CIA-81r28104 build result: All green
22:45:20gevaertshm, that should have been a zero-delta change...
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22:50:24bertrikhi giovanni_
22:50:25pixelmaEldrek: I'd suggest trying a current build but it's possible that you experience theme glitches and if you are using themes that are not included you need to update them (there was a theme code change shortly after the 3.6 release). My point is just that there also was a change for the Ipods related to charging and power handling, worth a try to see if it helps your case
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22:51:57giovanni_could please someone take a look t my latest post here and tell me what's wrong?
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22:56:10*gevaerts grumbles. How can r28104 possibly cause a red delta (even small)?
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23:01:49*gevaerts doesn't see it
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23:03:42***Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
23:04:33giovanni_maybe it's OT, but the twitter feed does not work
23:05:02AlexPWhat twitter feed?
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23:07:43Bagdergiovanni_: ah right, let's blame zagor for that ;-)
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23:07:56BagderAlexP: rockbox commits go to a twitter feed
23:08:06AlexPhuh, never knew that
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23:08:30Bagdertwitter stopped supporting HTTP Basic auth and I bet that's why it stopped working...
23:12:21giovanni_Bagder: you're right I suppose..
23:13:06BagderI have some insights into which tool I believe is used, that supports basic but not oauth out of the box ;-)
23:13:33AlexPMaybe curl could help! :P
23:13:44gevaertsoauth of the box?
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23:23:41pixelmaBagder: is there a way for you to check why I don't get flyspray notification mails?
23:24:05pixelmait worked earlier, don't know when it broke
23:24:13Bagderthat's really zagor's area, I don't know my way around there
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23:40:49shuffle2_in the first paragraph of the response there...isn't that how it's supposed to work? :s
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