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#rockbox log for 2010-09-22

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00:55:27CIA-81New commit by kugel (r28139): Use convenience function.
00:56:14CIA-81New commit by kugel (r28140): Bad copy&paste.
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00:57:03CIA-81r28139 build result: 270 errors, 0 warnings (kugel committed)
00:58:43CIA-81r28140 build result: All green
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01:17:22pixelma_I remember the playlist viewer suffering from weird bugs for a while after the "live moving" of tracks was implemented. The symptoms were fixed, interesting to see that there seems to be cleanup possible :)
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05:53:08eWillgevaerts: May I have the source code for c250erase?
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07:27:13iosifis the BuildClient multi-core/smp compatible?
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08:42:43phexyhello. I am trying to install rockbox via the automated utility and I keep getting 404 on the rockbox firmware. trying to install to sansa clip v1
08:42:58phexywhat should I do?
08:43:20JdGordoninstall the current build instead of release
08:43:53phexyso do not use the automated installer? do it manual?
08:44:37phexynvm I see
08:44:41phexythank you
08:45:10phexyits working :)
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08:45:17phexymuch appreciated!
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09:17:39wodzhmm I think there is bug in apps/plugins/imageviewer/bmp.c:123 - it assumes that stride = width which is not always true
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10:04:01wodzamiconn: Does imageviewer works on M3?
10:14:14wodzok doesn't matter - only mrobe500 has LCD_STRIDEFORMAT == VERTICAL_STRIDE and this is color target
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11:27:47gevaertseWill: (if you read logs) c250erase is built from a standard rockbox source tree, all source is in svn
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13:35:02Synthboxa question
13:35:43Synthboxhow do i make my v2 sansa boot to boot into rockbox when inserting USB?
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13:36:51Synthboxi mean when its off
13:38:56SynthboxI dont ever want to boot Original firmware :P
13:41:43mc2739Synthbox: which model sansa?
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13:45:28Shultzhi someone can help me ?
13:45:50Synthboxi have it off , then plug usb to it
13:45:58Synthboxthen it boots to OF :(
13:46:06Synthboxi wanna prevent that :O)
13:46:33sasquatchi cant confirm that behaviour for my e280
13:47:04gevaertsShultz: your question is quite hard to answer
13:47:14sasquatchwhen connected to my netbook an image of an usb plug appears
13:47:28mc2739Synthbox: you need to install the v2 bootloader with mkamsboot v1.4 along with a current build - follow instuctions for manual install here:
13:47:43Shultzi changed my language to hebrew and now i cant see anything, i guess there is no hebrew
13:48:00Shultzhow can i change it back to english ?
13:48:22mc2739Synthbox: if you are using release 3.6 now, your themes may not work properly with a current build though
13:49:28SynthboxMy theme is fine
13:49:43Synthboxand i installed the bootloader
13:49:56gevaertsShultz: you can reset your settings by holding a button on startup. The manual says which one that is for your player. The *actual* problem probably is that the font you're using doesn't support hebrew characters
13:50:07AlexPShultz: You can either edit /;rockbox/config.cfg when connected to a pc to remove just the language line, or you can reset all your settings on boot (check the manual for how)
13:50:19AlexPer, /.rockbox/config.cfg
13:50:23gevaertsOr what AlexP says :)
13:50:33mc2739Synthbox: did you use mkamsboot v1.4 to create your patched OF?
13:51:43mc2739Synthbox: that is your problem then
13:51:45Synthboxproblem is that when sansa is off and usb gets inserted it autoboots in OF
13:51:53AlexPShultz: And then yes, as gevaerts says select a font that has hebrew characters. I think"> has some info
13:52:10AlexPShultz: unifont is one that does (but it is quite big)
13:53:12Shultzi only installed rockbox when i connect my sansa clip v2 nothing pops up.. my comp doesn't recognize it
13:53:14SynthboxSansalinux bootloader on my V1 boots directly into rockbox when off and inserting usb :P
13:53:54SynthboxI just find it strange that people dont have this usb-boot feature on default
13:54:24Shultzi have windows
13:54:35AlexPShultz: You need to start the Sansa firmware first
13:55:19mc2739Synthbox: if you build a patched OF with the v2.0 bootloader and mkamsboot v1.4 it *will* boot directly to Rockbox when you connect the USB cable - even with power off
13:55:41gevaertsSynthbox: how long ago did you install the bootloader? The AMS sansas only got USB support in rockbox rather recently, and I don't find it strange at all that before that default behaviour on booting with USB plugged in was to boot the OF...
13:57:02Shultzi installed a boot with the firmware file
13:57:06Synthboxi installed the bootloader yesterday on the v2 , the v1's Bootloader kinda does same thing so i use sansalinux bootloader and that solved it
13:57:28AlexPShultz: Rockbox can dual boot, check the manual for how to get into the Sandisk firmware
13:57:48gevaertsThe e200v1 bootloader definitely does not boot into the OF when USB is plugged in
13:57:55Synthboxshultz: hold left button
13:58:14AlexPSynthbox: If you installed it with Rockbox Utility it is the old one, you need to use the new mkamsboot
13:58:16Synthboxgaverts : it does that on mine
13:58:31AlexPSynthbox: The button does vary from player to player
13:58:41AlexPSynthbox: Then you must have a very old bootloader
13:58:46AlexPvery old indeed
13:59:02Synthboxaint there a readybuilt one?
13:59:19AlexPFor zhich player now?
13:59:31Shultzok now my sansa popped up when i press the left button + hold
13:59:34gevaertsSnythxob: maybe try a bootloader that's *somewhat* recent then
13:59:38Synthboxe280 v2
13:59:43Shultzhow can i boot the rockbox
13:59:56AlexPShultz: Thurn it off then on again
14:00:15mc2739Synthbox: all of the latest sansa bootloaders are here:
14:00:19AlexPShultz: But now you are in the sansa OF, connect to usb and edit the config.cfg file in the .rockbox directory
14:01:05Synthboxso i need to rename that one to PP something?
14:01:33AlexPSynthbox: For the v1, Rockbox Utility can install a current one
14:01:51Shultzedit to english?
14:01:54AlexPFor v2, use the latest version of mkamsboot, and follow the manual install instructions in the manual
14:02:05AlexPShultz: If you just delete it, it will use English by default
14:02:11AlexPShultz: Delete the zhole line that is
14:04:25Shultzok thank you alex now its english again but how can i boot the rockbox on pc?
14:04:52AlexPShultz: You can't, it is a dap firmware not a PC operating system
14:05:05AlexPWe do have a simulator though
14:05:52Shultzif i want to add songs i need to do the hold and left button thing everytime?
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14:06:15AlexPShultz: For now, yes
14:06:34AlexPRockbox USB is nearly working on the clipv2, it just has a few problems left to iron out
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14:08:49Shultzok thank you there is something important u can tell me about the rockbox on clipv2
14:09:03Synthboxthanx guys :)
14:09:10Synthboxi made an mkamsboot
14:09:29Synthboxthe stuff started even faster
14:09:29AlexPSynthbox: Cool, but you didn't need to - the latest mkamsboot is available :)
14:09:39AlexPGlad you got it sorted anyway :)
14:10:06AlexPShultz: Not in particular, but the manual is worth reading and if you have a question then just ask it :)
14:10:11Synthboxya i grew tired of deleting OF created directories
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14:12:37Shultzk thank you
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14:12:51Synthboxcan i prevent sansa from creating "recycler" folder?
14:13:13Synthboxand autorun.inf
14:13:24AlexPThat is Windows
14:13:55AlexPI think there is some setting that stops it, telling Windows that the sansa is a removable drive or something
14:13:57Synthboxso , i need to prevent windows from being up to that ... how?
14:14:19AlexPBut that's really something for another channel, it isn't a Rockbox thing
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14:20:13SynthboxOne more thing
14:20:44SynthboxSay i want to make my own rockbox logo with flashier text n stuff , how i add that to boot?
14:21:38AlexPYou need to edit the source code for the bootloader, then compile
14:21:41AlexPBut be careful
14:21:54AlexPWith some players it is possible to brick the player with a bad bootloader
14:22:29Synthboxim a noob at sourcecode editing
14:22:35AlexPIf you mean for the main Rockbox build, after the bootloader, then that is much easier
14:22:47AlexPYou still need to edit the source code then compile, but you can't brick it
14:23:06AlexPOnce into Rockbox, you can set different themes, write your own etc.
14:23:14Synthboxmain build is already themed , i made a theme
14:23:24Synthboxand added it by trial and error
14:25:47Synthboxwhy not release a utility that allows people to resedit and place their bootlogo?
14:27:13AlexPBecause it is a ot of work for no gain, the position the data is at might change, and it is dangerous to edit the booloader like that
14:27:31Synthboxi see
14:27:59Synthboxhowabout to have the bootpic on the players memory?
14:28:14Synthboxin .rockbox
14:28:22Torneit displays the picture before it's initialised the disk, iirc
14:28:30Synthboxoh right
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14:29:06Torneyes, long before
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14:29:18Synthboxso where is that bootlogo pic for e-series sansa?
14:29:21AlexPIt'd hugely slow down the boot for something that is seen for a very short time indeed
14:29:26Torneit's compiled into rockbox.sansa
14:29:32Synthboxgotta make something the same size :)
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14:30:04Synthboxits nice to have original file to compare with so nothing can go wrong
14:30:34Synthboxwhere at?
14:30:37Tornein the source
14:32:31Synthboxum ok
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16:14:59giovanni_I need an example of the use of bar options slider and nofill: can't get it working...
16:20:02giovanni_I'm speaking about wps tags
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18:35:36Shultzisomone can tell me how can i see my songs in hebrew instead of jibrish
18:35:44Shultzii got sansa clip v2
18:37:50alexbobPShultzi: do you know how to change your font?
18:37:53alexbobPpick one of these:
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18:41:17Shultzii changed my font and even the language to hebrew and everything ok except the songs
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18:43:46gevaertsShultzi: try changing the "Default Codepage" setting in Settings->General Settings->Display
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18:45:02Shultzithat worked :)
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18:45:05Shultzithank you
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19:38:45shuffle2when i unplug usb, i get event id 0xa0000002. what is this called?
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19:39:45shuffle2ah nvm, it's formed by MAKE_SYS_EVENT()
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20:34:14Shultzisomeone can tell me why when i press recently added −−> random/all the screen is blank
20:34:20Shultzii got sansa clip v2
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20:48:13Shultziwhy recently added doesnt working?
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20:59:55bluebrotherdomonoky: ping
21:00:42bluebrotherdomonoky: I'm planning to make a new release of Rockbox Utility. Are there any issues you're aware of that should get fixed first?
21:01:18bluebrotherI've tried to make a workaround for FS #11496 but it doesn't seem to work −− seems like limiting the number of threads in the thread pool isn't sufficient.
21:01:34domonokyhm, i am not aware of any issues, but i am also not very activ in the last time.. so i dont know if there are issues :-)
21:01:49bluebrotherbut as I'm short of time these days I think it's ok to make a new release nevertheless.
21:02:04kugelpixelma: did I fix a bug I didn't know of?
21:02:39domonokyyes, it cant hurt to make a new release, even when there are unfixed bugs around.. the new release will at least fix some bugs (the fuze issue for example)
21:02:53bluebrotherok. There's a bit of time left since I'm about to build the new Qt version for that release :)
21:03:48*bluebrother guesses that building Qt won't get done tonight due to the longish build process
21:04:22bluebrotherso I'll go and bump version numbers, tag and release tomorrow evening. If everything goes as planned :)
21:04:41gevaertsZagor: if we remove the 64mb ipod video current build, won't we have a similar issue as with the 3.6 clip non-build?
21:05:39Zagorexcuse me? this is apparently a discussion I haven't followed. why should we remove the 64mb build?
21:06:05gevaertsBecause the standard build handles both 32mb and 64mb fine :)
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21:06:15bluebrotherZagor: it's no longer needed. No support for 64MB Ipods anymore ;-)
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21:06:29bluebrothercouldn't we keep it then until 3.7 is out?
21:06:34gevaertsZagor: r27960
21:06:40gevaertsbluebrother: yes, that may be the best solution
21:06:53Zagorlookie there. excellent!
21:07:16bluebrotheror remove it but instead provide a symlink for the 64MB build (or would that interfere with the cgi scripts?)
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21:11:47Zagorand what was the 3.6 clip issue again?
21:12:14kugelit has no 3.6 :)
21:12:38gevaertsIt was declared stable outside of a release, and the scripts assume that this won't happen
21:13:01kugel(but byhand.cgi shows the clip)
21:13:04gevaertsSo the scripts now assume that there's a release build for it
21:13:52Zagorright. but removing 64mb is the opposite, no script will be looking for a stable 3.7 64mb build if we remove it today.
21:14:23Zagorthough I guess rbutil might be confused for those who try to update their 64mb installs?
21:14:27gevaertsNo, but they also won't find a stable 3.6 64mb, which they should still find
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21:15:04Zagorgevaerts: ah, right. so let's just wait for 3.7 and nix it then
21:15:11Zagori.e. just before 3.7
21:15:27gevaertsYes, we're going to edit those files then anyway
21:21:14bluebrotherhmm, indeed: Rockbox Utility will detect a target mismatch error when updating a 64mb build :o
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21:25:51Zagorbluebrother: yeah but with a new release I think it's ok. we can mention it in suitable places such as the release notes and web site.
21:26:19Zagordoing it out-of-the-blue in the middle of a dev period would be more confusing
21:26:49gevaertsYes. And there's not actually any risk of untested code
21:27:10gevaertsWhen I committed the unification patch, I checked, and md5sums for both builds match
21:27:27bluebrotherwell, that target mismatch will happen on Rockbox Utility update. But IMO it's ok for a new Rockbox Utility release
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21:27:59*bluebrother should really get a "release notes" startup box done for Rockbox Utility
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22:38:47kugelZagor: ping
22:43:25kugelZagor: you wanted to revert the zip dependancy
22:43:34kugelI can do it if you have no time right now
22:43:48*kugel is currently annoyed by it :p
22:44:11Zagoroh, right. go ahead.
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22:50:10CIA-81New commit by kugel (r28141): Android port: Remove the "make zip" dependency of make apk again (see r28068). ...
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22:51:59CIA-81r28141 build result: All green
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22:58:58CIA-81New commit by kugel (r28142): Removed a bit too much, shall still depend on
23:00:36CIA-81r28142 build result: All green
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23:20:02kugelsome code seems to try to smoothen touchscreen movement, which I don't quite like :(
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23:26:33kugelthere's a huge discrepancy between the y the driver reports and the y the list code sees :/
23:26:43kugelbut only until BUTTON_REPEAT is added to the mix
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23:46:38kugelthe driver reports wrong numbers
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23:48:14kugelno, wait, I'm confused
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23:54:19*kugel found the problem
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