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#rockbox log for 2010-09-23

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00:03:21Ronj75hello everyone
00:09:43Ronj75sandisk E250R, wont get past the logo on bootup, went through the "sansa unbricking guide" only thing i didnt do is the linux/sansatool method. was seeing if theres anything else i should do before i get that deep and risk bricking it further heh
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00:17:23Ronj75was reading that the E250R is the same just rhapsody which dont care about. would it be wise to just put the E250 fw on it?
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01:01:56CIA-81New commit by kugel (r28143): Touchscreen: button driver improvements ...
01:04:02CIA-81r28143 build result: All green
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01:28:29CIA-81New commit by kugel (r28144): Enlarge the button post interval against audio drop outs, Too many lcd updates ...
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02:02:35CIA-81New commit by kugel (r28145): Touchscreen: Improve scrolling in absolute point mode. ...
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02:13:13CIA-81New commit by kugel (r28146): Explicitly disable hiding the selection bar by default.
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02:15:09CIA-81r28146 build result: All green
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02:37:37CIA-81New commit by kugel (r28147): Don't actually reimplement an existing feature for hiding the selection marker ...
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03:09:50SynthboxCan rockbox handle mp4 files as videos ? considering e280 ams is better hardware
03:10:50LloreanThe manual is pretty clear about what formats of video Rockbox plays.
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03:16:34Synthboxi mean
03:16:43Synthboxit is in the works right?
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03:24:53LloreanNobody's mentioned working on it.
03:24:57LloreanAt least, not that I've seen.
03:25:47Ronj75got a sansa e250R that is stucked on the logo screen on bootup.. i can get into recovery mode. but everything ive tried its the same result *btw oem fw not rockbox. yet*
03:27:12saratogai think the sansa.fmt trick works on that, have you tried it?
03:28:38Ronj75tried that, the bootloader rom, . everything on the e200 unbrick wiki
03:28:55Ronj75except for booting into linux i was hoping to get it fixed without that lol
03:29:08saratogathat probably won't help if you can get into recovery mode
03:29:28saratogathe whole point of e200tool is to get into recovery mode, if you're already there and can't fix it, then its probably not helpful
03:30:01saratogai can't remember if the e200r is different then the e200 regular though
03:30:26Ronj75if i tried to just put the e250 fw *not e250R* would it possibly fix it? or brick it worse?
03:30:50saratogait'll reject a non-R firmware unless you patch it first with e200tool I think
03:31:05saratogabut you can convert it into an e200
03:31:17saratogamight be worth digging up instructions for that and see if any of them look promising
03:31:30Ronj75i tried the official fw, and the one from the site
03:32:12Ronj75and tried to redo the bootloader
03:32:16saratogaSynthbox: it wouldn't be useful on our currently supported player anyway, none of them are fast enough for any of the mpeg4 codecs to have an advantage over mpeg1/2
03:50:09SynthboxSaratoga maybe but stuff always evolve so does code ;)
03:50:47Synthboxbugfixes n stuff forced lower res view etc
03:51:08saratogaSynthbox: i don't understand what you're asking?
03:51:54SynthboxMean , mp4 , avi , divx wmv and whatevers out there , could be a nice plus
03:52:31saratogaI don't think you understood my reply
03:52:39Synthboxespecially when we got bigger screen players n stuff
03:52:47saratogaI'm saying theres no use in supporting them on current players, but maybe on future ones
03:52:54Synthboxoh cool
03:53:21Synthboxbtw i just wondered something
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03:53:51Synthboxwhat happens if u control the electricity the blue leds are getting on say Sansa stuff
03:54:13Synthboxso they get very little less , can they change colour?
03:54:49Synthboxhas that been tried?
03:54:49saratogaand I don't think you can control the voltage on the sansas anyway
03:55:00Ronj75the led is a single color cant change that
03:55:19Synthboxya but when it gets less power
03:55:25Synthboxu get other colour
03:55:50saratogathats not how LEDs work
03:56:05saratogathe color is fixed for a given semiconductor composition
03:56:46SynthboxSo in theory
03:56:49Ronj75less power means dimmer not diff color
03:56:53Synthboxits impossible?
03:57:02saratogayes its impossible
03:57:12Ronj75can you change the color of your light bulb just by changing the wattage?
03:57:20saratogain the future, if you want to know how something not related to rockbox works, just check google
03:57:37Synthboxsure man
03:59:02Synthboxabout the fonts btw
03:59:13Synthboxsay i have a song in russian , and other one in Hangul
03:59:19Synthboxbut tunes in english too
03:59:31Synthboxhows that issue solved?
04:02:52LloreanWhat issue?
04:03:07LloreanIf your font has all those characters, it's not a problem.
04:07:34SynthboxOh ok ä
04:07:48Synthboxi need to make one?
04:08:24Ronj75hmmm im wondering if i should just say screw it and try to put rockbox on this sansa and see if it fixes the boot issue
04:08:58DemonXiPod Nano 4GB 1stG: Rockbox only works when the device is cold
04:10:33LloreanSynthbox: Or just choose one of the many fonts we have, selecting for one that fits your need...
04:11:11LloreanDemonX: What sort of help are you looking for exactly? Rockbox can't refrigerate your device to keep it cool.
04:11:39DemonXLlorean: I am trying to get Rockbox to work decently on my Nano
04:12:06DemonXI had it on my Sansa Clip, which I loved, and I traded that for this Nano hoping I could put rockbox on it too
04:12:15LloreanIf your device has physical issues such as not performing well when warm, there's not really anything to be done...
04:12:23DemonXOF works fine
04:12:39DemonXI read a thread (from 3 yrs ago) from someone else reporting the same phenominon
04:13:40LloreanUnless you're using a 3 year old build, that thread is hardly relevant.
04:14:45LloreanIf there is a problem with temperature, it's something now unique to your player. Which means, basically, that you'll have to track down what the issue is.
04:14:50DemonXI see your point, but none-the-less I cannot use current builds without it being cooled, and it shouldn't be a hardware problem because OF works fine
04:15:12DemonXand I was trying to compile a much older build mentioned in the thread but I'm having trouble compiling the ARM toolchain
04:15:36Llorean"The OF works fine" doesn't mean there's nothing wrong with the hardware.
04:15:49LloreanIt just might mean that the basic OF functionality doesn't hit that problem as easily.
04:16:39LloreanMy computer had bad RAM but only one application out of the dozens I had on it would ever crash. It took me ages to determine the RAM was causing it. I swapped out one stick, and everything's fine now, but if I'd never used that one program, I'd have never even known something was wrong.
04:16:52Ronj75heh too bad rockbox wont work on my fake nano
04:17:05DemonXIt performs fine reading and writing at high speeds while transferring to the computer and plays music fine as well
04:17:20DemonXI can run apple's diagnostics for the drive too, I'll do that as we speak
04:17:44LloreanDrive diagnostics wouldn't necessarily tell you much if it's the CPU or RAM that are performing poorly when warm.
04:18:26DemonXIf it was the CPU or RAM, then why would it be reporting "Partition not found"?
04:18:41LloreanWell, you didn't mention that.
04:18:55saratogaso when its cold the partition appears?
04:19:11DemonXroom temp, doesn't work, says partition not found.
04:19:51DemonXcooled slightly, takes forever to start up, bg is corrupt, reports .rockbox is not found, install incomplete, but GUI works
04:19:59saratogaso some kind of disk problem
04:20:02DemonXno data can be accessed, plugins crash it
04:20:10saratogayou're not going to be able to fix that
04:20:10saratogajust get a new player
04:20:15DemonXfrozen for 5min, it works excellent
04:20:24DemonXand if it cools while it's still on, it's fine
04:20:42saratogathough i guess its worth asking which bootloader and build you've got on it in case its some ancient broken one
04:21:03DemonXI ran it from the installer 2 days ago
04:21:34saratogatime to get a new player then
04:22:14DemonXI'd like to get the ARM toolchain working and see if an old build works
04:22:43DemonXfrom what I read on the forums, the thread was closed reporting that the answer was no because people kept spamming the same questions
04:22:59saratogago for it
04:23:19saratogabut IIRC that problem was fixed years ago
04:23:25saratogaso an older build is probably less likely to work
04:24:03DemonXits still worth a try (I have nothing better to do)
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04:41:36Ronj75grrr trying to install the manufacturer mode drivers for my sandisk. i get "windows requires a digitally signed driver"
04:42:10DemonXI'm thinking about just making a windows vm and using a prebuilt toolchain
04:45:58saratogaRonj75: i think you can boot windows into some mode where it doesn't need that
04:46:11saratogabut depending on what you're trying to do you may not even be able to use windows
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04:46:43Ronj75was going to try putting rockbox on my e250R to see if it will unbrick it
04:47:57Ronj75already cant get past the logo so figured what the hell give it a shot lol
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04:59:44DemonXI'll test ipod linux on it tomorrow and get back with the results.
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05:14:45soapRonj75, you have read the unbricking instructions on the wiki?
05:15:37soaptrying random things can only make matters worse.
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05:29:46Ronj75yea i tried everything on the unbricking wiki except the linux boot disk
05:31:57Ronj75was about to try the e200patcher to install rockbox but win7 is saying the driver needs to be signed
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08:45:33CrackerizerI have questions about manual restration for ipod.
08:46:34CrackerizerIt seems I messed up with the firmware partition.
08:46:53Crackerizerhelp please.
08:48:09Crackerizeripodpatcher report that the firmware partition copyright is missing.
08:48:20bertrikhi Crackerizer, it seems you appear in rockbox's docs/CREDITS file twice, as Pinitnun Shanasabang and as Phinitnun Chanasabaeng
08:48:53bertrikIs that correct?
08:49:44Crackerizerbertrik: let me check.
08:50:11CrackerizerOh yes, the second one is the correct one.
08:51:56CrackerizerYou may delete the first name.
08:52:05bertrikPhinitnun Chanasabaeng is correct?
08:52:28bertrikok, thanks
08:52:38Crackerizeryou're welcome.
08:53:05Crackerizeranyway, i've solved my own problem.
08:53:18Crackerizergood day to you all. bye.
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09:55:26giovanni_The latest revisions about touch screen devices, makes the ondas (and I believe also the D2) difficult to use
09:57:04LloreanIn what way?
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10:10:51giovanni_Llorean: the selection bar disappear
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11:20:54giovanni_*PANIC* Stkov main - I've got this error while loading a theme, what does it means?
11:25:34Zagorgiovanni_: It means "stack overflow in main thread". it's a bug.
11:26:17giovanni_may it be the theme I was testing too heavy?
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11:27:29gevaertsgiovanni_: that may have contributed, but it still shouldn't crash :)
11:30:23giovanni_do I need to open a bug?
11:31:21Zagorgiovanni_: does it happen repeatably every time you load the theme file?
11:31:41giovanni_I'm not able to reproduce the error, now the device just freeze without any messaje
11:31:49giovanni_just the whole screene white
11:32:02giovanni_yes, every time
11:32:11Zagorwhich rockbox version are you running?
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11:32:52giovanni_the latest build, but now I'm tring with build #28140
11:33:20Zagorif it's the latest, then a bug report is useful. include the theme zip with the report please.
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12:12:01AlexPWhat is the situation with the Onda VX777? RBUtil has it as an unusable target, but it doesn't appear at all on the front page
12:12:08AlexPThere is also a section for it on the theme site
12:13:37AlexPAlso, looking at it seems only the FTL isn't done, so isn't it in the same position as the D2 which is unstable?
12:14:46AlexPUnless we don't even have read access to the internal storage I guess
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12:16:02kugelAlexP: that's the case
12:17:05AlexPkugel: OK, so unusable then, but it should still be on the front page in that catagory
12:18:59kugelI think so
12:20:14AlexPOK, I'll do it when I get home if nobody beats me to it
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12:37:37gevaertsAlexP: people seem to be using those ondas happily
12:37:55gevaertsCalling them unusable may not be entirely accurate
12:40:41giovanni_I use it, I've got also an Cowon D2
12:41:00giovanni_the situation is similar, apart for the FTL
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13:17:40Shulthere is a way to do shuffle like the regular sansa player or it has to be shuffled list ?
13:21:37ZagorShul: how does the "regular sansa player" do shuffle?
13:22:12Shulshuffle the regular a-z playlist
13:22:24Shulthats what i want
13:23:40Zagoryou mean a list of all files on the player?
13:24:42Shulyes but i want it to be sort as a-z
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13:25:06Zagoruh, ok. why do you care how it is sorted if you want to play shuffled?
13:26:30Shulif i want to find a song it will be easier
13:27:07Shulenough with the questions u know if it possible ?
13:27:14Zagorok. you have two options: create a sorted m3u file, or use the database in rockbox
13:27:36Shulu mean playlist?
13:27:45Zagorm3u = playlist file, yes
13:29:56Shulwhat do u mean using the database?
13:30:29Zagorwhich sansa do you have?
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13:41:16Shuli dont understand if it possible or not
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13:42:42AlexPgevaerts: Yeah, I've no idea what catagory they should be in, but at least the 777 should be in the same list as the others
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13:47:38wodzCan someone point me the piece of code which takes RGB values and emmits luminance (aka conversion from RGB to greyscale) in rb?
13:47:54wodzs/point me/point me to/
13:49:07wodzit has to be somewhere in bmp handling code (jpg uses different path for greyscale targets and decodes only luminance)
13:49:13AlexPZagor: Is enough to add the VX777 to the front page unusable list, or does anywhere else need fiddling with?
13:51:49wodzbtw. there is a bug in png.c which manifests on mrobe500 - the image dispalyed is rotated
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13:58:46ZagorAlexP: that's it
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13:59:42AlexPZagor: Could you prod it to update please :)
14:00:40AlexPta :)
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15:46:57SamuelI tried to write a simple App that clears the Screen of an iPod Nano (1st Gen). But when I execute my code nothing happens :/
15:47:29SamuelMay I post a Link to the Source? Possible someone can help me
15:51:26DerPapstyou might want to check how the lamp plugin does that...
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15:54:36SamuelI don't want to use the lcd-Driver :S
15:55:36wodzI don't get - you want to interract with lcd but don't use driver?
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15:56:07DerPapstyou simply use the api functions... not such a big deal
15:58:11DerPapstrb->lcd_set_background( __ colour goes here __ ); rb->lcd_clear_display(); rb->lcd_update(); and the display should be cleared :)
15:59:03DerPapstand you set the colour with LCD_RGBPACK(r, g, b)
15:59:24DerPapstwhere r, g and b are values from 0 to 255
15:59:27wodzlcd_clear_display() , lcd_update() should be enough
15:59:43SamuelYeah I already analyzed the Source and I nearly copied the lcd_update Function (with an clear Framebuffer). But it doesn't work :S
15:59:45DerPapst(just in case he wants a pink bg :-P)
15:59:52SamuelYeah I already analyzed the Source and I nearly copied the lcd_update Function (with an clear Framebuffer). But it doesn't work :S
16:00:43DerPapstpastebin the source... someone ist going to look for sure
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16:01:28Samuelsry couldn't write anymore :S
16:01:39SamuelYeah I already analyzed the Source and I nearly copied the lcd_update Function (with a clear Framebuffer). But it doesn't work :S
16:01:51*DerPapst points Samuel to
16:02:18Samuelups sry for the Spam
16:03:02wodzSamuel: why do you want to reimplement something which is present allready?
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16:09:23SamuelIn fact I want to free my Ps3 with the known Exploit (I want to port it to my iPod nano). Therefore I need the USB and I think is more complicated to rewrite the rockbox Usb-Driver instead of writing a mini USB-Driver for excatly that reason.
16:10:34wodzSamuel - search in IRC logs wery similar work has been done by guy named shuffle IIRC
16:11:18SamuelOk I will look for it :)
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16:15:27SamuelHm is there a possibility to search the logs?
16:16:16hypn0toadHey all, new rockbox user here. Just thought I'd pop my head in here and say HI! :)
16:17:38wodzhypn0tod: this is channel designated for strictly technical discussion - as topic states 'hi there' messages should go to #rockobox-community
16:18:41hypn0toadapollogies.. I must have missed that
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16:31:57SamuelHmm i hope shuffle2 joins again :S
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16:50:11krazykitSamuel, yes. use google: searchterm
16:50:27SamuelOk thanks
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19:03:04Shulsomeone knows how can i see only the song name in the playlist without artist?
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19:14:54shulsomeone ?
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19:15:21bluebroth3rshul: the playlist viewer always shows the filenames.
19:16:07bluebroth3ryou shouldn't quit after 5 minutes if you want an answer ...
19:16:22shulyeah it was by mistake
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19:17:13bluebroth3ranyway, if you want to see track names only use track names only for the filenames :)
19:17:48shulu mean changing all filenames
19:18:07shulok its possible
19:18:12bluebroth3rsince the playlist viewer always displays filenames that's the only way to achieve this
19:18:37bluebroth3rexcept implementing it based on file metadata and submitting a patch of course.
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19:26:12shuli have another question
19:26:41shulis there a way to enqueue song like in winamp when u press "q"
19:27:53evilnick_BRead the manual, but yes
19:28:08evilnick_BThere are a good few ways of doing that, usually on a long-press on select
19:28:24evilnick_Bshul: Which player do you have?
19:28:43shulclip v2
19:29:19evilnick_Bshul: ought to help
19:30:27evilnick_B*cough* is a better link
19:34:03shulwhen i press long select its getting me to plalist when i can remove the track from playlist or move it, no enqueue
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19:40:53domonokyshul: press long select on the actual file in the filebrowser, not in the playlist viewer..
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19:46:56shulgot it
19:47:00shulthank you
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19:59:12bluebroth3rhmm. Do we want to continue using svn keywords or do we rather prefer to not use them anymore?
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20:14:47pixelmaLlorean: the problem DemonX (I believe) reported seems to affect a handful of Nanos and also with recent builds, trying to remember who else it was as I also believe he found a workaroundwith a patched build. maraz - were you the one with the problematic Nano?
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20:23:24SamuelHey shuffle2 are u here?
20:23:57SamuelI heard you are also trying to port psgroove to an ipod
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20:28:07shuffle2yea...i actually had it working, once
20:28:18shuffle2but then timing issues struck again
20:28:25shuffle2haven't fixed it properly yet
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20:30:04SamuelDo you think the ipod is too slow in general or is rockbox too much overhead?
20:33:23shuffle2just that i don't know how to properly manage events across threads in rockbox
20:34:58Samueloh ok. i tried it without rockbox but i got stuck when i accessed the lcd. for some reason it doesn't draw the things i want :(
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20:36:42SamuelI read the docs of the display but it doesn't work :S
20:40:41DerPapstSamuel: you should simply pastebin your core. eventually someone will help you ;)
20:42:26SamuelDerPapst: core - good joke. my whole programm is about 30lines long :P
20:43:04*gevaerts suspects a typo. "code"? :)
20:43:17Samuelsource-code? :p
20:43:25bertrikSamuel, did you call lcd_update()?
20:43:44Samuelbertrik i am not using the rockbox core
20:43:53Samuelits a standalone programm
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20:44:11gevaertsI doubt if 30 lines is even enough to initialise everything you need for the lcd
20:44:49SamueloO i looked @ the lcd.c and there is no init for ipodnano1g
20:44:59Samuelonly for video
20:46:25gevaertsSamuel: have you considered basing this on the rockbox bootloader? Then you'd have all initialisation done, working lcd, and no threads to get in your way
20:48:46domonokyusing rockbox itself would have the benefit of having it working on more then one mp3 player without much work :-)
20:49:07DerPapsts/core/code :D
20:50:53Samueldomonoky: Wouldn't this be boring for other devs? :P
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20:51:24domonokydevs never get bored, there is always something todo :-)
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20:52:26shuffle2_ anyone see why wireshark is marking this as "malformed"? :s
20:53:06Samuelhuh wireshark can sniff USB?
20:54:08shuffle2_so, these malformed packets are rare, but i can't tell what's causing them
20:54:19shuffle2_kinda funny that wireshark doesn't let you know what's wrong :p
20:54:25Samueldomonoky: The main problem why devs never get bored are the users. The always do things that you never dreamed of :D
20:56:30SamuelDerPapst may i ask you where are you coming from?
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20:58:23DerPapstBerlin (Germany)
20:59:40Samuelok this explains your name :p
21:02:13Samuelgevaerts your idea of using the bootloader sounds good
21:08:37shuffle2_another thing is that if i try any way to filter based on a packet being malformed...wireshark shows no hits :|
21:08:46shuffle2_so maybe just wireshark bug?
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21:11:23shuffle2_seems unlikely, meh
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21:35:37ezzieyguywufany of you rockbox devs use mpd?
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21:46:37amiconnmaraz: Would be interesting to gather ATA identify info from those problematic nanos, as well as others not showing the problem for comparison?
21:47:02amiconnMaybe it's a certain series of those cf chips which don't like (U)DMA
21:47:32amiconnIf we find out which, we could selectively disable DMA at runtime on the problematic devices only
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21:49:49pixelmaI believe S_A_I_N_T and maraz tried to start such while the first still had his bunch of 1st gen Nanos
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21:50:41pixelmaall of which worked fine IIRC, there must be something in the logs (around the time of the forum post, I think)
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21:53:29ep0chis there any reason why there aren't any android dev builds on the site?
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21:55:56fmlkugel: hello. I see in list.c: once "swipe" und nearby "wipe". What is correct?
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21:57:34marazamiconn: should i post it to the thread ( or somewhere else?
21:57:39maraz(the dump file, i mean)
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22:01:14kugelfml: I'm not sure but I think both works
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22:02:40marazamiconn: ah well. i guess i'll just post it to the thread and urge others to do the same.
22:03:10fmlkugel: what is meant? A certaint finger movement?
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22:16:49kugelfml: just moving the finger across the screen
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22:23:29fmlkugel: then I'd use "wipe", or even better: ask native speakers. I just find it confusing to see a constant and a comment that uses other word.
22:23:58AlexPeither wipe or swipe is fine
22:24:08AlexPswipe has perhaps the idea of being a little more vigorous
22:26:54kugelswipe is very common when it comes to touchscreens as I see it
22:33:16evilnick_BSwipe is probably more common than wipe
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22:38:08notlisteningbluebroth3r, domonoky. what is happening with the rbutil development now.. I have just seen a release but who is working on it...?
22:38:33bluebroth3rBagder: can you move those files to the download server?
22:39:36bluebroth3rnotlistening: well, not much happened. The new release is mostly to catch up with recent bootloader changes (especially mkamsboot afaik)
22:40:17bluebroth3rI'm still planning to do development, but I'm somewhat limited on time these days
22:40:39notlisteningOh okay well, given some time I would like to give it a go aswell
22:40:52Bagderbluebroth3r: will do sir!
22:41:28bluebroth3rI wouldn't have made a release just for the changes done to Rockbox Utility itself. But given that there have been requests a couple of times recently because of bootloader issues ... well, it doesn't hurt :)
22:42:16*bluebroth3r just rebuilt Qt 4.7.0 for Linux to discover afterwards that he didn't build it statically so the Linux binary uses the old Qt version. D'oh!
22:42:17notlisteningNot at all
22:42:47Bagderbluebroth3r: done!
22:42:56bluebroth3rhopefully I'll find some time to rework the autodetection code to make it more reliable. And rework the UI to make it simpler to use.
22:42:59bluebroth3rBagder: thanks!
22:43:39Bagderdelightfully fast transfers from there
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23:34:45pixelmacan someone have a look at the image tags part in and tell me what "<label>" should be used for? It seems like it is used to indicate that this is something the user has to specify but due to being "<label>" foswiki interprets it as html code it doesn't know about, this simply doesn't appear on the resulting page. The thing confusing me is that there also is a "</label>"
23:35:40pixelmathe <literal></literal> was put there deliberately in case there are | that should appear on the page that would otherwise be interpreted as column separators in foswiki
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23:39:37pixelmaand I guess the example.wps is way wrong by now...
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23:40:38pixelmaoh, and it links to the old WpsGallery :\
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